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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people?
- 0:03Today's episode, we're going to be talking about how to make it
- 0:06work with a narcissist. Hold up before you get mad,
- 0:10before you pull out the pitchforks and come for me.
- 0:12Just stay, look, stay tuned, you know.
- 0:14Stay tuned for more. Stay tuned for the breakdown.
- 0:16Y'all, if you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:17I'm a clinically diagnosed narcissist.
- 0:19And welcome to another episode of The Narcissist Code.
- 0:39OK, y'all, OK, calm down. I know when people go to see
- 0:44this video, they see see the title of it, you hear the
- 0:46beginning of it and y'all automatically hit the thumbs
- 0:48down. You're going to want to hit the
- 0:49thumbs up right here. Y'all.
- 0:51Like I said, I'm not. This is not me trying to tell
- 0:53anybody to stay within a toxic relationship, but the person is
- 0:56not working on themselves. This is not me trying to say
- 1:00give this person another chance. This is not, this is not what
- 1:02I'm saying. I know everybody can't leave.
- 1:03Everybody doesn't want to leave. So this is not me.
- 1:05This is not a judgement or video.
- 1:07This is just trying to give you the perspective of as to why you
- 1:10know how, how to make it work with a narcissist.
- 1:13You know, because I I do have a support group and this is one of
- 1:15the topics that we covered last night in my support group was
- 1:18how to make it work, you know, my support group link is in the
- 1:21description of every video and podcast I do.
- 1:22We meet every Sunday evening or zoom and throughout the week as
- 1:26well with different, you know, different goals, settings and
- 1:28things like that. Over Zoom just we just do a lot
- 1:30of chatting. There's a lot of people in there
- 1:33going through similar experiences as you looking for a
- 1:35community link in the description.
- 1:36But yes, how to make, how to make it work with a narcissist?
- 1:41And this is, this is the consensus from the group.
- 1:43And I already had this thought, but this is the consensus from
- 1:47so many people in the group that the number one way to make it
- 1:51work with a narcissist is to be ignorant to their behaviours.
- 1:57It's just be ignorant to their behaviours.
- 1:59I'm not calling you, like I said, ignorant does not mean
- 2:01calling you stupid y'all It just means like this act like you
- 2:04don't know. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge
- 2:07in this situation. Not calling somebody stupid, you
- 2:09know, it is what I'm saying. The definition of ignorance is
- 2:12not like you're dumb. I I always tell people that I'm
- 2:18geographically ignorant because I don't have the knowledge.
- 2:21You know the the definition of ignorant is lacking knowledge or
- 2:25awareness. Awareness in general.
- 2:27It's not doesn't mean you're stupid.
- 2:28It's just like you don't know. You don't have enough knowledge
- 2:30to, you know, do it. So ignorant, like you have to
- 2:34act like you, unaware of their behaviors, like you have to act
- 2:37like these behaviors. Whatever they're exhibiting to
- 2:39you doesn't matter. That's one of the things that
- 2:42happens right there now being like I say, being ignorant to
- 2:46their behaviors or feigning ignorance to their behaviors
- 2:49could also be kind of flowing into grey, into the grey rock
- 2:51technique where you become boring and you don't give that,
- 2:54give that person any type of your emotional reactions, but
- 2:58being ignorant to their behaviors and these
- 3:00relationships. Just like because if you're if
- 3:02you're trying to hold them accountable, if you're they,
- 3:06they would consider it nagging you're, you're nagging me,
- 3:08you're saying this, you're saying that they would consider
- 3:11that nagging. They would consider that toxic.
- 3:12They would consider that whatever you know, they would
- 3:15say you being bitter and ungrateful like or you just too
- 3:19emotional, you and your feelings, whatever.
- 3:22If you're trying to do all of that, they will just beat you
- 3:24down emotionally. Some of them will, you already
- 3:26know, some of them will take it to the physical, but a lot of
- 3:28them will start to beat you down emotionally because they they
- 3:30want to hammer away at you because they want to beat you
- 3:32down to the to like an emotional pulp, so to speak.
- 3:36They want to get you to a point where they're hurting you and
- 3:39putting you like in a blender, so to speak and to to literally
- 3:42mess with you. And this, this doesn't stop.
- 3:45I I think a lot of people get into this space where if you're
- 3:47in a relationship with a narcissist and you are being
- 3:50ignorant to their behaviors, it doesn't like, I'll just be real.
- 3:53Like, why would it? Why would they, you know, why
- 3:55would that get better, so to speak?
- 3:58Why would their why would their behaviors change?
- 4:02Because they don't want to be held accountable, so they want
- 4:04you to act like you don't see it.
- 4:06Or if you do see it, don't say anything.
- 4:08You know how people say, like you know if you see something,
- 4:11say something. Not in a toxic relationship.
- 4:13If you see something, you didn't see it.
- 4:16Did you hear something? You did not hear it.
- 4:18Don't say anything to me. Just let me live my life how I
- 4:21want to live my life. Let me live my life by my rules.
- 4:24Let me live my life by my without boundaries.
- 4:27With with freedom. Let me cheat in peace.
- 4:30You know, if you know I'm cheating, keep it to yourself.
- 4:32I'm coming home to you, aren't I?
- 4:35And you? I, I, I, I provide for this
- 4:37household. Don't know who I or can I?
- 4:39Why can't I cheat? That's the excuse you hear a lot
- 4:41of people say. So you got a good life, don't
- 4:44you? That's why I'm it's OK for me to
- 4:46cheat. Then so many people will be OK
- 4:47with me cheating because I'll give you a good life.
- 4:49Right. Right, right.
- 4:51You hear it? Yeah.
- 4:51I'm just telling you, you hear a lot of people say that.
- 4:54So that's the mindset that so many narcissists and toxic
- 4:58people have right there is that they think that they can get
- 5:01away with things because they are in a certain position or or
- 5:04because they provide you a certain type of lifestyle.
- 5:06This again falls onto you as a survivor or thriver to just
- 5:11decide what you want, decide how your life is going to be, decide
- 5:14how you want things to go. Because at the end of the day,
- 5:17it's your decision. It's your life.
- 5:19You have to live your life the way you see fit, the way you
- 5:22best to see fit. And then like I said, there's a
- 5:25lot of narcissistic people out there that do this.
- 5:27So the the best way is to be ignorant to their behaviors.
- 5:30Act like you don't know. And if you like I said again,
- 5:32even if you do know, you don't know.
- 5:35Even if you do see it, you don't see it.
- 5:37That's the mindset they just want you to be.
- 5:39They just want to live their life without any no holds
- 5:41barred, no boundaries, no, no. You saying no, nothing.
- 5:45Like this is the mindset of a lot of narcissistic people.
- 5:48They don't want you to say anything to them because that
- 5:52sucks for them. Now you got to hold now you're
- 5:54going to hold me accountable. Wow.
- 5:56Wow. Really.
- 5:57You're going to hold me accountable now After all we've
- 6:00been through, After all we've done.
- 6:01Wow. Wow.
- 6:04They're going to you be up all you in the fuss and the fighting
- 6:06all the time. So again, you kind of got to
- 6:08pick your battles in this position right here.
- 6:10So that's what I'm just saying. If you deal with a toxic,
- 6:11narcissistic person, this is kind of what you're going to
- 6:14have to go through when you're trying to, you know, get when
- 6:17you're trying to stay with this person, that's the best way to
- 6:19make it work, is to act like you don't know.
- 6:22It's crazy how that goes right there.
- 6:24You know you can like say picking like this is another way
- 6:28pick and choose your battles. You don't have to be ignorant to
- 6:29every single thing, but you have to pick and choose your battles.
- 6:32And I know, like, yeah, I know this doesn't sound like a fun
- 6:35way to live and I know people just like they that sounds like
- 6:37a horrible way to live because you don't get to voice yourself
- 6:41like you. You pretty much have to be solid
- 6:43to what somebody somebody, how somebody is behaving.
- 6:45Somebody is treating you. You know.
- 6:46Again some people are OK with that because they have a certain
- 6:49type of lifestyle, but like everybody's not OK with it.
- 6:51So you have to pick and choose your battles because that person
- 6:55is going to keep doing what they want to do because they feel
- 6:58like they're entitled to do it. So you have to pick and choose
- 7:01your battle. I'm not saying you have to be
- 7:02completely silent, but you're going to have to pick and choose
- 7:05how you want to go about doing, doing some of this stuff.
- 7:08You had to pick and choose how you want to go about surviving
- 7:11and thrive. You have to, you have to pick
- 7:12and choose in these situations. So you have to choose, you know,
- 7:16so it just becomes it's their space right there.
- 7:19You. It really is a horrible, it
- 7:21really is a horrible dynamic gal to stay.
- 7:24Try to try to stay in a touch of relationship because you have to
- 7:27grey rock them to death. You because you have to protect
- 7:29your mental health. You have to grey rock or yellow.
- 7:32What people call it yellow rocking, Yellow rocking is grey
- 7:34rocking. But you give them a little bit
- 7:37here and there. You give them a little emotional
- 7:39responses like you, you or what. Doctor Romedy described it in
- 7:43Tina. Tina Swinton described it as
- 7:46like grey rocking is cold yellow, yellow, yellow rocking
- 7:49is like a little warmth added to it.
- 7:52The the rock is a little yellow hot, you mean, you see what I'm
- 7:54saying? The rock has been heated up a
- 7:55little bit. You give them emotional
- 7:57reactions when necessary, like you complimenting them on things
- 8:00and whatnot, Like you're being, you know, you're being cordial
- 8:04to this person instead of like, you know what I mean?
- 8:06Instead of just everything's being a battle, you're being
- 8:08cordial to this person and y'all are, you know, seemingly having
- 8:12a good some good chats and whatnot.
- 8:14That does happen quite a bit. So this is the space that so
- 8:17many people fall into. And that's why I say when you're
- 8:19dealing with a narcissist, like, yeah, and I know this sounds bad
- 8:22and I know people really don't want to live this way.
- 8:25And let's be realistic, most people don't want to live this
- 8:27way. Most people just want to have a
- 8:29happy, have a happy, healthy relationship.
- 8:31But that's one thing. If you're dealing with a
- 8:33narcissist, it's probably not going to be possible.
- 8:35Y'all this. You know, if you want to stay
- 8:36with a narcissist, you have to accept the fact that you're
- 8:38probably not going to have a healthy relationship.
- 8:41You have to change the you have to change the confines of your
- 8:45relationship to stay in it if you so choose.
- 8:49You know you have to change the confines, the mindset of it all.
- 8:52You have to change how you how your outlook on the world.
- 8:56You have to understand the fact there's certain things that
- 8:59you're not going to be able to get from this person.
- 9:02Radical acceptance. Accepting the things that you
- 9:05cannot change and accepting the things that you can change.
- 9:07The most of the things that you can change are you.
- 9:10Most of the things that you can change in a relationship, toxic
- 9:12relationship or not, have to deal with you yourself, your
- 9:15emotions, your physical growth, your physical well-being.
- 9:18That's the type of stuff that you are in control of most
- 9:20times. You can't control them.
- 9:23You can't control how they're going to act.
- 9:25You can't control how they're going to behave.
- 9:26You can't control how they're going to treat you.
- 9:28The only thing you can control is you.
- 9:30So that's one of the things that you have to like, learn to
- 9:33accept in this space right here. Radical acceptance can help you
- 9:36out right here. Like accepting the fact that
- 9:39this is who they are, You know, accepting the fact that at the
- 9:43end of the day, this is who they're going to be.
- 9:46This is who they are and this. And I know that sucks when I
- 9:49have to tell people they're like, this is your partner.
- 9:53This is going to be your partner for the rest of their life.
- 9:56And people just like, and some people like they're OK, you
- 9:58know, but I say you have to accept them for who they are.
- 10:01But Lee, I don't want to accept the abuse.
- 10:02Y'all. What can you do if they're
- 10:05going, like I said, other than leaving this relationship
- 10:06dynamic to stop the abuse, to mitigate the abuse.
- 10:09And even when you leave the relationship, it doesn't
- 10:12guarantee that the abuse is going to stop.
- 10:14And I think a lot of people, when you get out of it, you
- 10:17realize this to be true. That like just because you leave
- 10:19the relationship doesn't mean that abuse is going to stop.
- 10:22Post separation, abuse is a real thing.
- 10:25Like when you leave the relationship, the abuse
- 10:28continues. They find a way to get to you.
- 10:30They got you have kids, you have businesses, you have finances
- 10:33there. They find a way to get to you,
- 10:35to find they find a way to continue the perpetual cycle of
- 10:39abuse. They find a way to hurt you.
- 10:41They find a way to put you through things.
- 10:43They will find a way, you know, So it's like I said, so this is
- 10:47one of the situations where y'all have to you know, I'm not
- 10:49telling you to accept abuse. Y'all, I'm just saying, what can
- 10:52you do to change this? Understand what you can change,
- 10:55what you cannot change. And like it had and like I will
- 10:58say this right here, it has way less to do with you than you
- 11:04think. So many people just like, well,
- 11:06I'm not enough. I'm not worthy enough to get
- 11:08love to. It's not you.
- 11:09It's them. It's them behaving in a certain
- 11:12type of way. It's them seeing you in a
- 11:14certain type of light. It's them.
- 11:16At the end of the day, it's them.
- 11:19At the end of the day, this is going to be them.
- 11:21This is going to be how they act.
- 11:22This is going to be how they treat you.
- 11:23The only thing that you have control of or is you and how you
- 11:26want to live your life. Like say, you can live your life
- 11:29inside the confines of this toxic relationship dynamic, but
- 11:32you can find happiness within it, within yourself.
- 11:35This person isn't going to change.
- 11:38Radical acceptance. This person isn't going to
- 11:40change. You can either be ignorant to
- 11:42their behaviors and just live your life like this, or you can
- 11:45see what they're doing, understand what they're doing,
- 11:47Pick and choose your battles and choose.
- 11:49Choose what happiness look like for you.
- 11:51So I say everybody's situation is uniquely different and this
- 11:54is not trying to shine doom and gloom on people's relationship.
- 11:56If you're dealing with a pathological narcissist, they're
- 11:58not going to change their behaviors without any type of
- 12:00therapy or hard work. Let's be realistic.
- 12:03Let's keep it. That's what we do over here.
- 12:04Y'all. We keep it real, you know, We
- 12:07keep it real. We keep it hot and we keep it
- 12:08hot and rated like a little Caesar's pizza.
- 12:10We truly do. So that's why I wanted to just
- 12:12just prepare. Y'all I want y'all to live the
- 12:14life that you want to live. That's the most important thing
- 12:16to me. You living the life that you
- 12:19want to live. Being happy, doing it again.
- 12:22Y'all. Make sure you check out my
- 12:23support groups and whatnot as we we chat about stuff like this
- 12:26every single week. A few times a week there's
- 12:28multiple posts in there, like 200 posts in there.
- 12:30It's a private server and whatnot.
- 12:32It's not on Facebook, not on Instagram.
- 12:33It's a private group. Nobody ever screenshots to post
- 12:36anything online. I appreciate y'all but to whom
- 12:38this is out peace. Thank you so much for making it
- 12:41to the end of my video. I am extremely grateful for you
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- 12:55you heal and understand what you've been through.
- 12:57Thank you so much again. I will see you in the next
- 12:59video. Peace.