Latest / The Breakfast Club / Natalie Nunn & Lemuel Plummer On Zeus Network's Reputation, Baddies, Blueface, Joseline + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Morning.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Everybody is stee J n V.
- 0:02Speaker 3: Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
- 0:05Speaker 3: some special guest joining us today. We got we got
- 0:07Speaker 3: the CEO of Zeus Network, Lamel Plumb Okay, and a
- 0:12Speaker 3: young lady that's been from the Breakfast Club.
- 0:15Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Why did you feel like we canceled your interview?
- 0:23Speaker 5: Because I was told that we were going to come
- 0:25Speaker 5: up here last week when the baddies were here, and
- 0:27Speaker 5: then I was like, why are we not invited anymore?
- 0:31Speaker 5: I don't know one of them. We have multiple publicists,
- 0:34Speaker 5: so they must have lied schedule. But I'm here now,
- 0:39Speaker 5: let's let's let's get into I'm still I've been wanting
- 0:44Speaker 5: to come up here for years after that interview, years ago.
- 0:47Speaker 5: Be it was like three or four, Yes, it was.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Pull it up.
- 0:54Speaker 1: It's like three or four years that that was before you.
- 0:58Speaker 5: How long have you been here? It was not that
- 1:02Speaker 5: Natalie Okay, will you still be talking? Hell the ship?
- 1:06Speaker 6: But I think what happened was somebody took a clip
- 1:09Speaker 6: with an old interview and repurposed it because.
- 1:12Speaker 5: It's been going around again. Yes, and I was annoyed
- 1:15Speaker 5: all over.
- 1:16Speaker 6: You're annoyed all over again. I understand that what were
- 1:19Speaker 6: you annoyed about in that conversation.
- 1:20Speaker 5: Everything because you're because you because you used to just
- 1:23Speaker 5: be like I don't know, because I feel like over
- 1:26Speaker 5: the years you have gotten a little bit more like
- 1:29Speaker 5: you know, with the females and the industry. I think,
- 1:32Speaker 5: you know, you just used to be an asshole. And
- 1:35Speaker 5: it was just like to the point where like cringe
- 1:38Speaker 5: to come up here, you know. I mean, I was
- 1:40Speaker 5: always I was like, fuck it, let's go. It gave
- 1:42Speaker 5: me Donkey of the Day on a Friday before. Do
- 1:44Speaker 5: you remember that you used to go in so And
- 1:48Speaker 5: then the video came back up and I was like, oh, yeah,
- 1:51Speaker 5: I'm about to go back up to the breakfast club
- 1:53Speaker 5: because we got to have a conversation.
- 1:54Speaker 6: Well, I apologize if anything.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Did he say.
- 2:00Speaker 5: He was just like, well it was bad girls club days.
- 2:03Speaker 5: And he was like, Oh, you're a big chin loud mouth.
- 2:06Speaker 5: You're never gonna be anything.
- 2:08Speaker 3: That sounds like him, that sounds like him, that that
- 2:11Speaker 3: sounds like things.
- 2:14Speaker 5: It's funny though, that's the thing. And I was just
- 2:17Speaker 5: sitting in the chair and I was I was younger,
- 2:19Speaker 5: so I was like, what the fuck?
- 2:21Speaker 3: Like se no longer bitch as niggles. He still if
- 2:28Speaker 3: you want to, you want to.
- 2:29Speaker 5: Listen, but no, he just you know, he used to
- 2:33Speaker 5: be rude. A lot of reality TV stars really always
- 2:36Speaker 5: us to feel some type of way coming up here,
- 2:37Speaker 5: especially the females.
- 2:38Speaker 6: Well, I apologize to you if that means anything, thank you,
- 2:41Speaker 6: thank you. Yeah. But I'm gonna get on the male
- 2:43Speaker 6: ass though, because lamel out here, you know, with this
- 2:45Speaker 6: damn juice network, you know, bringing down the black community.
- 2:49Speaker 1: One show at a time, We're gonna get on the
- 2:52Speaker 1: We're gonna get on your ass.
- 2:56Speaker 5: You know, I'm still a bad girl, so you might
- 2:57Speaker 5: want to be careful, my boss.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Look, a lot of people do feel that they feel
- 3:01Speaker 3: like that Zeus is alone when it comes to our people,
- 3:05Speaker 3: showing the fighting, showing the things that sometimes make our
- 3:08Speaker 3: community look bad. What is your response to that?
- 3:12Speaker 4: You know, we're telling real, authentic stories. You know, we
- 3:17Speaker 4: were giving out, you know, opportunities to all sorts of folks.
- 3:24Speaker 7: I don't.
- 3:25Speaker 4: I don't look at it like I'm doing anything different
- 3:27Speaker 4: than HBO and Netflix, And that's fiction. Though they have
- 3:35Speaker 4: a lot of reality shows, they have a lot of
- 3:36Speaker 4: unscripted shows that.
- 3:38Speaker 6: Nobody on HBO get busted over the head and have
- 3:41Speaker 6: a gas so deep that they had to go get stitches.
- 3:44Speaker 7: They listen, listen.
- 3:46Speaker 4: HBO has shows like Real Sex. They have shows that
- 3:50Speaker 4: you know they end up, you know, showing the real
- 3:56Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. I think I think for
- 3:58Speaker 4: me because I'm black.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Owned, you know, we're young, renewed or hot.
- 4:01Speaker 7: I think you know.
- 4:02Speaker 4: People are are you know, feeling away and uh, you know.
- 4:08Speaker 1: I commend you on the infrastructure. I commend you on
- 4:11Speaker 1: what you've built.
- 4:11Speaker 6: It's hard to build any type of subscription based platform
- 4:15Speaker 6: to have.
- 4:15Speaker 1: I think you got like a million subscribers.
- 4:18Speaker 5: We have.
- 4:20Speaker 6: Every time, we have a lot of subscriber, got a
- 4:23Speaker 6: lot of subscribers, you know what I mean.
- 4:24Speaker 1: So I commend that. But but I don't think like.
- 4:27Speaker 4: I mean, I think, you know, green Lighting, you know,
- 4:30Speaker 4: Krishan and Blue Face show, that wasn't me bringing now
- 4:33Speaker 4: in the black community. I mean that's we just you know,
- 4:36Speaker 4: we allowed them to tell their story and their way.
- 4:38Speaker 7: We made sure it was raw, it.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Was real, uncensored, unfiltered.
- 4:43Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't like that because they were
- 4:45Speaker 3: fighting each other during it, and it was showed and
- 4:48Speaker 3: I guess the question is I guess people want to
- 4:50Speaker 3: know is their balance on your network and not just
- 4:53Speaker 3: continuously problem fighting. You know, I don't think it's a
- 4:56Speaker 3: positive show, is there or this? Because I mean, well.
- 4:59Speaker 4: We have we have tons of shows on the platform.
- 5:02Speaker 4: I think folks highlight some of our you know, our
- 5:05Speaker 4: hit shows, and that's the ones that they focus on.
- 5:08Speaker 7: But I don't, I don't.
- 5:10Speaker 4: I think we have we have fitness shows, we have
- 5:12Speaker 4: short form content, we have some scripted we have uh, you.
- 5:15Speaker 7: Know, all sorts of shows.
- 5:16Speaker 2: I don't think.
- 5:18Speaker 7: Has a show on the network. I think we have
- 5:20Speaker 7: dating shows, you know, one more chance.
- 5:22Speaker 4: We had Tokyo Tony's dating show, beat Simone Quay, Bobby
- 5:30Speaker 4: Bobby Lights early days when we when we first around
- 5:37Speaker 4: the time we first long have you had the Real
- 5:38Speaker 4: Black China that I mean that was a real show,
- 5:40Speaker 4: had a lot of heart, some levity in it.
- 5:43Speaker 6: Uh.
- 5:44Speaker 4: I mean our shows have you know, uh so many
- 5:48Speaker 4: different components to it. I think that the Battie Show,
- 5:51Speaker 4: Baddie's is one of our hit shows. I think Jocelyn's
- 5:55Speaker 4: Cabaret is is a hit show, and I think people
- 5:58Speaker 4: focus on that.
- 5:58Speaker 7: Kashan and Bluefish shows, hit shows.
- 6:00Speaker 6: I watched the Hour. I watched Joscelyn's Cabaret for the
- 6:03Speaker 6: first time. Last week, Just Hilarious had me watch an episode.
- 6:06Speaker 6: I saw three fights in one episode. Jesus, the girl
- 6:10Speaker 6: got hit so bad. She had a gas so deep
- 6:14Speaker 6: in her head that she had to go to the hospital.
- 6:16Speaker 4: Right.
- 6:17Speaker 3: See, I don't y'all don't play like the other networks,
- 6:18Speaker 3: like I know, VH one and MTV. Sometimes if there
- 6:22Speaker 3: is a fight, the person is suspended. That y'all just
- 6:24Speaker 3: it's Reality's reality.
- 6:26Speaker 4: I mean, there are there are consequences for things that happen,
- 6:29Speaker 4: you know, on set when people do things. I mean,
- 6:31Speaker 4: I look, I'm I'm I'm a little different than most
- 6:36Speaker 4: CEOs when it comes to, you know, uh, working with
- 6:41Speaker 4: certain folks when things happened.
- 6:42Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
- 6:45Speaker 1: I think.
- 6:45Speaker 4: I think we have a great relationship with a lot
- 6:47Speaker 4: of our content partners. You know, I'm a little bit
- 6:50Speaker 4: more lenient when it comes to certain things, I understand.
- 6:53Speaker 4: I mean, we have real conversations about things that happen,
- 6:56Speaker 4: whether it's Natalie or Jocelyn or China.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Or lou Face Kashan. I mean, we have real conversations.
- 7:02Speaker 4: So you know, I understand I'm just a little bit
- 7:04Speaker 4: more you know, flexible.
- 7:05Speaker 7: I'm not.
- 7:06Speaker 4: We're not a traditional network. You know, we're non traditional.
- 7:10Speaker 4: We're independent. You know, we are black owned, and so
- 7:14Speaker 4: you know, we we understand the folks that we're working
- 7:16Speaker 4: with as well. You know, some of them, you know,
- 7:19Speaker 4: may not pass the Psyche Valves evaluation. We if we
- 7:26Speaker 4: need to do something, we'll do something. We do, background checks,
- 7:28Speaker 4: we do, we do, we do our due diligence when
- 7:30Speaker 4: it comes to folks that we work with. But it's
- 7:33Speaker 4: you know again, for me, it's just about giving people
- 7:36Speaker 4: an opportunity to tell their story.
- 7:38Speaker 2: And you know, when you know, when some networks aren't
- 7:42Speaker 2: looking to work.
- 7:43Speaker 7: With people, I see value.
- 7:44Speaker 4: I see value in all of our cast members, all
- 7:46Speaker 4: of our talent, all of our content partners. And so
- 7:48Speaker 4: I think everybody's different, everybody has a different story to tell,
- 7:51Speaker 4: and we just provide those opportunities.
- 7:53Speaker 7: To have to have hundreds of people.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Working for your network given jobs.
- 7:57Speaker 4: I mean that's on end, in front of the screen
- 8:00Speaker 4: and behind the scenes, is a big deal for me.
- 8:02Speaker 6: It's intriguing to me because it feels like you have
- 8:05Speaker 6: a level of white leniency. And what I mean by
- 8:08Speaker 6: that is I've seen like we used to give Mona
- 8:10Speaker 6: Scott young hell. I used to call Mona Scott young,
- 8:12Speaker 6: Satan Scott young, right, like seriously, like we used to
- 8:15Speaker 6: give her hell. But for whatever reason, you are exempt
- 8:19Speaker 6: from that type of criticism, Like nobody ever comes at
- 8:22Speaker 6: you directly for the programming.
- 8:23Speaker 1: That's all Zeus.
- 8:24Speaker 5: Because they love it.
- 8:25Speaker 7: Yeah, how is your experience?
- 8:27Speaker 5: People love it? People love it. I mean because I've
- 8:30Speaker 5: obviously come from the traditional television Oxygen we TV, I've
- 8:35Speaker 5: worked with everyone, so going to Zeus now being there
- 8:39Speaker 5: now basically my new home for almost three years, people
- 8:43Speaker 5: just love the energy. Like when we're outside, they love
- 8:47Speaker 5: let me, people love let me. I love let me.
- 8:49Speaker 5: The cast everybody like it's fun. It's like it's like
- 8:52Speaker 5: the new wave. I feel like when we used to
- 8:54Speaker 5: do events with Oxygen back in the day. We used
- 8:56Speaker 5: to come to New York and the Bad Girls would
- 8:57Speaker 5: have events. They were just so like up to height
- 9:00Speaker 5: and traditional and you know, the girls have to stand
- 9:03Speaker 5: here and it was just like very I don't even
- 9:08Speaker 5: know like how to really put it, but not knocking
- 9:10Speaker 5: where I started just saying where we are now with
- 9:13Speaker 5: the streaming platform and Zeus and how our boss is
- 9:17Speaker 5: like we literally could call him on the phone and
- 9:19Speaker 5: any of the cast members, all of the you know,
- 9:22Speaker 5: the Bobby Lights Show, the Baddies, the Bad Boys, like
- 9:26Speaker 5: we have a direct contact to the boss, like that
- 9:28Speaker 5: was never a thing before with the you know, the
- 9:31Speaker 5: old networks.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Any boss y'all up?
- 9:34Speaker 5: Boss is all up?
- 9:34Speaker 1: Because you an executive producer on.
- 9:36Speaker 5: Shows on Baddies, Bad Boys and Kashan and Blueface's Show.
- 9:40Speaker 5: And I do I do feel like Lemmy gives that
- 9:43Speaker 5: opportunity to everyone to come in. I know for a fact,
- 9:48Speaker 5: people are making more money at Zeus Network. And I'm
- 9:51Speaker 5: not just saying me or or the other executives. I'm
- 9:54Speaker 5: talking about all the talent than anywhere else. So he's
- 9:57Speaker 5: not only like putting everyone in a better position in
- 10:00Speaker 5: life for themselves and their families and their kids and whatnot,
- 10:03Speaker 5: but he's literally working with people that, like he said,
- 10:08Speaker 5: like you know, maybe the old networks old there are
- 10:11Speaker 5: old the shows don't want to work with them anymore.
- 10:13Speaker 5: Like not to bring up Eric Commanta or anythingause I
- 10:15Speaker 5: know that's a big topic. I'm only saying this because
- 10:17Speaker 5: when she got fired the other day, it literally went
- 10:19Speaker 5: viral to put her on batties, like we got thousands
- 10:23Speaker 5: and thousands and thousands of tags because I did just
- 10:27Speaker 5: hear that on the radio coming over here. But I
- 10:30Speaker 5: do just think, like, you know, we got to command
- 10:32Speaker 5: let me and zeus network because at times like when
- 10:35Speaker 5: people don't see an opportunity or don't see value in
- 10:38Speaker 5: talent anymore, and we're trying to figure out where we're
- 10:41Speaker 5: gonna go next, or what show we're going to be on,
- 10:43Speaker 5: or oh am I gonna do a podcast? Or am
- 10:45Speaker 5: I gonna do this? Like he opens up the doors,
- 10:47Speaker 5: and it's like it's insane.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Let me ask you, how did for people that don't know,
- 10:52Speaker 3: you know, what was the idea of this network? How'd
- 10:54Speaker 3: you get this network started? And how did you get
- 10:56Speaker 3: it off the ground.
- 10:57Speaker 6: He was in a club so once of girls. I mean,
- 11:00Speaker 6: that's exactly what's on Saved Room. You can record it.
- 11:03Speaker 4: Team not at all, No, I think for me, originally
- 11:10Speaker 4: I wanted to I want to say, around two thousand,
- 11:14Speaker 4: you know, fifteen or so. I just I wanted to
- 11:17Speaker 4: launch a television network. I come from, you know, working
- 11:22Speaker 4: with parents who owned networks. So I just I just
- 11:24Speaker 4: thought it was you come from parents that owns television networks,
- 11:28Speaker 4: So I just wanted to launch a subscription video on
- 11:31Speaker 4: demand from Michigan, Michigan, Michigan.
- 11:34Speaker 6: Your parents owned like local cable, Yeah, a bunch of
- 11:36Speaker 6: that before.
- 11:36Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And so for me it was just important
- 11:39Speaker 4: to launch my own network.
- 11:40Speaker 7: But I felt like the Netflix model was the new wave.
- 11:43Speaker 4: You know, all about comedience choice and control, you know, uh,
- 11:46Speaker 4: subscription model, you know, vod all that stuff was just
- 11:50Speaker 4: like the new wave, and so for me, I just
- 11:51Speaker 4: wanted to get ahead of it. And you know, I
- 11:53Speaker 4: aggregated a lot of content partners. In kind of my
- 11:56Speaker 4: model or philosophy in the beginning was you know, we're
- 11:58Speaker 4: putting the hands back into the power that the content creators,
- 12:01Speaker 4: and you know, we want to empower them. We wanted
- 12:04Speaker 4: to let them tell their stories, and so we I
- 12:07Speaker 4: guess I aggregated a lot of folks to come be
- 12:10Speaker 4: a part of the network.
- 12:11Speaker 2: And originally it was like some social media folks, and.
- 12:13Speaker 4: Then you know, we just started to kind of migrate
- 12:15Speaker 4: over to working with more traditional you know, talent, and
- 12:18Speaker 4: so it was.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Just I just felt like, yeah, I come from traditional.
- 12:22Speaker 4: I sold a lot of shows to various networks, Viacom networks,
- 12:25Speaker 4: some of the NBCU networks, and I just didn't you
- 12:28Speaker 4: know that I was a full service production company, a
- 12:32Speaker 4: CEO for a full service production company, and so for me,
- 12:35Speaker 4: it was just it just I didn't like the deal structures.
- 12:39Speaker 4: You know, it took a long time to get a
- 12:41Speaker 4: show off the ground and the process was really brutal,
- 12:44Speaker 4: and so I was just like, look, we got to
- 12:46Speaker 4: get these shows out quicker. You know, I want to
- 12:48Speaker 4: I want to be able to tell our stories. Most
- 12:50Speaker 4: of these networks and production companies are white owned, and
- 12:53Speaker 4: so for me, it just it didn't really make a
- 12:56Speaker 4: lot of sense, like.
- 12:57Speaker 7: To allow those people to tell our stories.
- 13:00Speaker 4: And to determine what we should get paid and how
- 13:03Speaker 4: for us, Like you know, I remember you guys interviewed
- 13:06Speaker 4: you know, Ray J and bow Wow, and he was
- 13:08Speaker 4: telling you guys like he appreciated the experience with zeus
- 13:11Speaker 4: and you know, he has equity in his shows and
- 13:13Speaker 4: you know they're getting paid a lot of money. So
- 13:15Speaker 4: I think for me, it was just it was just
- 13:17Speaker 4: really about empowering the content, you know, creators and the
- 13:21Speaker 4: talent and giving them different types of deals and allowing
- 13:26Speaker 4: them to tell their stories.
- 13:27Speaker 7: And so for me, I launched a network in twenty eighteen.
- 13:30Speaker 4: We've been up and running for over five years, and
- 13:33Speaker 4: you know it's been growing and scaling ever since.
- 13:36Speaker 3: And so when did you start making money? When did
- 13:38Speaker 3: you stop making money? How long?
- 13:39Speaker 2: Let me wait, it took it took a minute to
- 13:41Speaker 2: make some money.
- 13:42Speaker 4: There was a little bit of trial and error, and
- 13:45Speaker 4: you know, we a little bit of experimentation when it
- 13:47Speaker 4: comes to certain projects.
- 13:49Speaker 1: But how much is a subscription?
- 13:50Speaker 2: Six six dollars nine five ninety nine?
- 13:55Speaker 3: And what was what was the first show about? What
- 13:59Speaker 3: was your first show to take off that was like
- 14:00Speaker 3: this is it?
- 14:01Speaker 7: We had a couple of shows we had, you know,
- 14:04Speaker 7: blame it on.
- 14:05Speaker 4: Quashow actually did fairly well for us when we first
- 14:08Speaker 4: like started moving and getting things going, and someone show
- 14:11Speaker 4: did really well.
- 14:12Speaker 7: Then you know, One.
- 14:13Speaker 4: More Chance, Uh, one More Chance did really well, and
- 14:17Speaker 4: and then Black China just kind of really took us
- 14:20Speaker 4: over the top.
- 14:21Speaker 1: And you're making almost eight million dollars a month.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Hey man, I appreciate it. You know we're doing we're
- 14:27Speaker 2: doing really subscribers.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Huh, three million subscribers.
- 14:30Speaker 2: We have a lot of We have a lot of subscribers.
- 14:31Speaker 4: I don't really disclose that information, but we have we
- 14:34Speaker 4: do have a lot of subscribers.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Purposes, various security.
- 14:39Speaker 4: Reasons for uh, you know, just all sorts of reasons.
- 14:43Speaker 4: You know, we're just not ready to you know, publish
- 14:47Speaker 4: our numbers hip. But I will say this, I mean, look,
- 14:49Speaker 4: we've been charting every week. We trend every week on Twitter.
- 14:53Speaker 4: You know, we're charting in all the app stores.
- 14:55Speaker 5: We're literally competing hundred million.
- 14:58Speaker 2: That is it, close to one hundred million views.
- 15:00Speaker 7: I did about ninety ninety one, ninety two million views
- 15:03Speaker 7: last season.
- 15:04Speaker 4: We were competing with like, you know, play the NBA playoffs,
- 15:08Speaker 4: NFL playoff numbers. When it comes to ratings, you know,
- 15:10Speaker 4: a lot of networks are getting you know, half a
- 15:13Speaker 4: million views or a point two point three. We're getting
- 15:17Speaker 4: millions of views every time. You know, we you know,
- 15:20Speaker 4: on our subscription video and demand platform.
- 15:24Speaker 1: How do you eat off that? Natalie?
- 15:26Speaker 5: So I'm like creator, he trying to get He's trying
- 15:32Speaker 5: to say, well, so you know I have equity in
- 15:38Speaker 5: my shows.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Yeah, so Natalie has all all of our content partners.
- 15:43Speaker 2: So if you pitch your show to zeus. You know,
- 15:45Speaker 2: part of our secret sauce.
- 15:46Speaker 4: And our incentive with the talent is that and uh,
- 15:52Speaker 4: you know obviously their executive producers, so we don't just
- 15:54Speaker 4: look at them as you know, just talent.
- 15:56Speaker 7: You know, we want them to get that real experience.
- 15:59Speaker 4: We do all our productions in house, so there's no
- 16:01Speaker 4: third party production companies producing our.
- 16:03Speaker 5: Way I've learned so much.
- 16:06Speaker 4: There's an education process. There's an educational process that we provide.
- 16:12Speaker 4: You know, we do incentivize them to promote their shows.
- 16:16Speaker 4: We allow them to share in the revenue that comes
- 16:18Speaker 4: in in different ways, not just a talent fee, an
- 16:21Speaker 4: episodic fore you know, there's like real money like She's
- 16:25Speaker 4: i mean Night and Day from traditional television, and that
- 16:28Speaker 4: was part of it.
- 16:28Speaker 7: We were like they with their.
- 16:30Speaker 4: Paying folks on loving Hi about even if you give somebody,
- 16:32Speaker 4: you know, ten twenty thousand, I mean it's just not
- 16:35Speaker 4: to me.
- 16:36Speaker 7: I think that, you.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Know, our talent, our content partners are worth more than that.
- 16:40Speaker 3: And now what about the partnership with Floyd Maywell?
- 16:42Speaker 1: Was that?
- 16:43Speaker 7: Yeah? That was great?
- 16:44Speaker 4: We we you know, we partner with Floyd and the
- 16:46Speaker 4: Money team and shout out to you know, Daryl Farmer
- 16:49Speaker 4: and Walt and you know, really profitable Yeah, Rella and Jonah, Yeah,
- 16:56Speaker 4: they all did a great job making it happen.
- 16:57Speaker 2: But it did really well.
- 16:59Speaker 4: We you know, we we that was our first time
- 17:02Speaker 4: green lighting any type of pay per view, so you know,
- 17:05Speaker 4: it's that's different technology and it's a different type of
- 17:07Speaker 4: situation when you're you know, when it's more of.
- 17:09Speaker 2: A transactional video on demand type of situation.
- 17:12Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, we.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Love working with Floyd.
- 17:20Speaker 5: If we didn't make we didn't.
- 17:21Speaker 2: We had nothing to do with that that.
- 17:23Speaker 6: I don't want nothing to do with that makes it
- 17:26Speaker 6: that makes that makes his brand look bad.
- 17:28Speaker 2: But that wasn't.
- 17:31Speaker 7: That wasn't.
- 17:32Speaker 2: We were the distributor. That's like sayings.
- 17:38Speaker 4: And so those two things going on.
- 17:40Speaker 2: It was it was the Floyd fight was happening live.
- 17:44Speaker 4: All of that was live, and while that was happening,
- 17:47Speaker 4: it was just chaos, right, and so once the chaos
- 17:51Speaker 4: broke out, then you know, uh, Joscelyn and other folks
- 17:57Speaker 4: were fighting backstage and we weren't even really you know, do.
- 18:01Speaker 3: Y'all get you in trouble that because that was y'all
- 18:03Speaker 3: security though, No, we didn't.
- 18:05Speaker 2: We weren't. We weren't actually, like, I don't, I wasn't there,
- 18:09Speaker 2: so I don't.
- 18:09Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean I watched the footage just like,
- 18:12Speaker 7: but we know we weren't.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Wasn't the fight.
- 18:13Speaker 2: No, I wasn't behind the scenes. I wasn't behind the scenes.
- 18:16Speaker 4: Which you know, we had two productions going on. We
- 18:18Speaker 4: actually had three productions we had. We had we were
- 18:21Speaker 4: shooting Blue Face and Krashan live. They had performances and
- 18:25Speaker 4: we were shooting their theories.
- 18:26Speaker 7: Then we were shooting the.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Exhibition, and then we were distributing and filming you know.
- 18:29Speaker 4: The fight, the Floyd fight. So, I mean, Floyd loves
- 18:32Speaker 4: working with us. We love working with Floyd. We we
- 18:34Speaker 4: do good business together.
- 18:36Speaker 2: You know, he's a great partner. And uh, the fights
- 18:40Speaker 2: are fun.
- 18:40Speaker 1: I did.
- 18:42Speaker 5: I was on the undercon Tommy fought.
- 18:46Speaker 7: Floyd.
- 18:47Speaker 2: You know, we are talking about some some other fights.
- 18:49Speaker 3: But that fight looked so pitiful. It looked like y'all
- 18:51Speaker 3: were so damned tight.
- 18:53Speaker 5: I was. I wanted to keep going. It was her
- 18:55Speaker 5: who just fell to the ground. What are you doing?
- 18:58Speaker 2: She was tired?
- 19:00Speaker 1: Did you have a chain guard?
- 19:05Speaker 3: Not today.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Listen, He's.
- 19:11Speaker 5: I'm not gonna slide to listen.
- 19:13Speaker 6: Another question, are you afraid that you are going to
- 19:15Speaker 6: get held liable for stuff like that though, because somebody
- 19:17Speaker 6: could somebody that got assaulted could easily name zeus in
- 19:20Speaker 6: a lawsuit.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:22Speaker 4: We we protect ourselves as much as we can, you know, insurance,
- 19:26Speaker 4: you know our deals. You know, we implement a lot
- 19:28Speaker 4: of things in our in our in our deals.
- 19:30Speaker 2: I mean, am I nervous? I mean we know what
- 19:31Speaker 2: we signed.
- 19:32Speaker 4: Up where, we know what we're working with, and you know,
- 19:35Speaker 4: for us, I'm not really worried about it. Uh, it's
- 19:40Speaker 4: more so you know, Uh, we just have to implement,
- 19:44Speaker 4: you know, a certain protocol and procedure that protects everybody
- 19:48Speaker 4: our cast, our crew and and all the folks involved.
- 19:52Speaker 4: And we do that and we have a great security team.
- 19:54Speaker 4: We've beefed up our security. We've we have great producers.
- 19:57Speaker 7: That do a fantastic job.
- 19:59Speaker 4: You know, we protect not only just the talent, we
- 20:02Speaker 4: protect the production. You know, so we have security watching
- 20:05Speaker 4: over our production.
- 20:06Speaker 7: You know I was going on.
- 20:06Speaker 4: So we just you know, we we try to, you know,
- 20:10Speaker 4: do as much as we can to make sure it's
- 20:12Speaker 4: a safe environment, and uh and that you know, even
- 20:15Speaker 4: though there's things that happened, conflicts, you know, you know
- 20:19Speaker 4: it is altercations. We just we we try to do
- 20:22Speaker 4: our best to mitigate the situation as much as possible.
- 20:26Speaker 4: But you know, working with the batties, baddies, working with
- 20:29Speaker 4: bad boys, working with blue faces, and we're working with everybody.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Now, you posted a picture. Everybody thought you had surgery.
- 20:37Speaker 3: They thought you show in your chin. I didn't even
- 20:39Speaker 3: know that that's possible.
- 20:41Speaker 6: You call him a bitch, ass nigga, call him a
- 20:44Speaker 6: bit I didn't do it the way you did.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Nobody room. I ain't never seen that it was.
- 20:51Speaker 5: And it's a rumor, but I feel like what happened
- 20:54Speaker 5: was when I first got in in Hollywood, I was
- 20:56Speaker 5: like probably one hundred and twenty five pounds. I was
- 20:58Speaker 5: like twenty four years old. So you know, fast forward
- 21:01Speaker 5: thirteen years. You know, my body's changed, like when people
- 21:06Speaker 5: grow into there whatever. So I'm like, I grew into
- 21:10Speaker 5: my chin now exactly, nothing else to talk about.
- 21:13Speaker 6: I mentioned you too, so hold on, so you didn't
- 21:15Speaker 6: get there was no I didn't get no.
- 21:16Speaker 5: I just got I gained more weight, like well, not
- 21:18Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five pounds anymore. So yeah, I
- 21:20Speaker 5: put it on in my face. I guess I don't know.
- 21:22Speaker 2: You look great. There's nothing wrong with you, know.
- 21:27Speaker 5: Yeah, Nikki said something about it when she said something
- 21:29Speaker 5: about my chin in her new song. There was a
- 21:31Speaker 5: whole viral moment that I had my chin. She's not
- 21:34Speaker 5: a bit a nigga, because that's that's big.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Cis any check something like that?
- 21:41Speaker 5: Yeah, she said, yeah, even if you guys are annoying
- 21:46Speaker 5: because everybody does this everywhere we go. She just said,
- 21:49Speaker 5: even if my name was Natalie Nunn, you but just
- 21:51Speaker 5: still couldn't chin check me.
- 21:54Speaker 1: That's a good double time you checking people?
- 21:58Speaker 5: Know one?
- 21:59Speaker 1: What about an winner? When you wear a chin? Chill?
- 22:01Speaker 2: You know? Se?
- 22:05Speaker 5: And then when I get on his ass then he's
- 22:07Speaker 5: mad that when I just randomly in my bars in
- 22:09Speaker 5: New York.
- 22:10Speaker 6: Shot was the only thing I saw about that video
- 22:15Speaker 6: was I was like, which one of y'all canceled Natalie
- 22:17Speaker 6: not of interview because I didn't know nothing about it.
- 22:19Speaker 1: We know nothing about it.
- 22:20Speaker 5: I guess it was. I don't know. It was like
- 22:22Speaker 5: three different publicists that work obviously at Zeus and then
- 22:25Speaker 5: my puer.
- 22:27Speaker 3: Y'all were up here after the old one. That's what
- 22:29Speaker 3: I'm like, Yeah, there was never a problem.
- 22:32Speaker 1: A few times like.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Three would we ban you? He am.
- 22:38Speaker 5: Banned my chin, he didn't ban me.
- 22:40Speaker 6: So that's what I'm here, actually, bitch ass nigga acronymic band.
- 22:44Speaker 2: It is.
- 22:45Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question, what do you think
- 22:47Speaker 6: contributes to the successess? Because people going people say the ratchetess,
- 22:51Speaker 6: they say to the degradation of women, right, So what
- 22:53Speaker 6: would you say contribute to the successes?
- 22:56Speaker 2: I think that Uh first, wait.
- 22:58Speaker 5: Let me answer that. I think no for real, besides
- 23:02Speaker 5: the fact that we have a lot of amazing and
- 23:04Speaker 5: great talent that whether or not they're loud and they're
- 23:07Speaker 5: obnoxious or they're this, that and the other, they have
- 23:10Speaker 5: a fan base that follows them. But let me's like
- 23:12Speaker 5: ten toes down in the paint, like he's there. He's
- 23:15Speaker 5: not the CEO that sits behind the desk. So I
- 23:18Speaker 5: tell him this all the time, like We'll be out
- 23:20Speaker 5: at dinner somewhere and I'm like, you know, I just
- 23:21Speaker 5: got to let you know, like you are like like
- 23:25Speaker 5: the best CEO. You're you are right there, Like he
- 23:29Speaker 5: didn't have to be here this morning. Let me let
- 23:32Speaker 5: me make so much money. He really doesn't have to
- 23:34Speaker 5: do it, but he's always involved or he's always right there.
- 23:37Speaker 5: Even on the shows. He's not at every single scene,
- 23:40Speaker 5: but he's somewhere right there. He's making sure things are
- 23:43Speaker 5: going right. He's making sure like he's there ten toes down.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a big difference.
- 23:49Speaker 4: I've decided to kind of be more of a boots
- 23:52Speaker 4: on the ground CEO. You know, we're only five years old.
- 23:55Speaker 4: I think that I'm not going to take all the credit,
- 23:58Speaker 4: but thank you. I think we have a phenomenal team
- 24:01Speaker 4: of executives. Uh you know, we have a great group
- 24:05Speaker 4: of executive producers. Shout out to my you know my
- 24:10Speaker 4: team and uh you know the president of Zeus Chasing
- 24:12Speaker 4: Tobert and you know, uh l J. My brother who's
- 24:17Speaker 4: you know, our executive producer on all of our shows.
- 24:19Speaker 4: Even Mark Scheibel, who's one of our EPs. We have
- 24:23Speaker 4: a great team, you know, Darryl Farmer who's the advisor
- 24:26Speaker 4: and consultant Zeus, and Genisha and you know my girl,
- 24:30Speaker 4: and we have we just have a lot of folks
- 24:33Speaker 4: that just do an amazing job. And I think that
- 24:37Speaker 4: we have a great group of you know, stars that
- 24:40Speaker 4: work with the network.
- 24:41Speaker 2: I mean, so I think that that in.
- 24:44Speaker 4: Addition to you know, uh uh, you know, the show
- 24:49Speaker 4: is being loud and provocative.
- 24:51Speaker 2: You know.
- 24:52Speaker 4: I think that we try to push the envelope a
- 24:54Speaker 4: lot more. Our content is uncensored. We don't censor our content.
- 24:58Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
- 24:58Speaker 3: So it would there be a reason to kick somebody off?
- 25:01Speaker 3: Can somebody do something? Somebody, somebody, somebody go too far
- 25:07Speaker 3: with you?
- 25:07Speaker 6: Be like if they if.
- 25:10Speaker 2: They disrespect me? No, No, honestly they disrespect you, but
- 25:14Speaker 2: they make each other, you know. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
- 25:16Speaker 4: No, I don't, I don't know, No, I honestly, we've
- 25:20Speaker 4: never had to kick anybody off.
- 25:22Speaker 7: I don't. I don't recall ever us.
- 25:25Speaker 5: We don't work with anymore.
- 25:26Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I think I think they do
- 25:29Speaker 3: something wrong. You just don't like them, like you know,
- 25:30Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
- 25:31Speaker 5: Doing crazy ship?
- 25:32Speaker 1: No.
- 25:32Speaker 6: I think I think I need to know what you'all
- 25:34Speaker 6: call crazy because we see all these clips from what
- 25:37Speaker 6: do y'all?
- 25:38Speaker 2: What do y'all?
- 25:39Speaker 4: I think I think that we we I think our
- 25:43Speaker 4: audience resonates with our content because it's it's real.
- 25:48Speaker 7: Okay.
- 25:49Speaker 4: A lot of networks water down their content, they have
- 25:51Speaker 4: to censor it, you know, the talent doesn't come off
- 25:55Speaker 4: usually authentic and real. And I think that makes a difference.
- 25:58Speaker 4: I think that makes a difference. We put our our
- 26:00Speaker 4: content a lot faster.
- 26:01Speaker 2: You know.
- 26:01Speaker 4: We we just shot a whole series of Baddies East
- 26:05Speaker 4: were like, literally we just wrapped a few days ago.
- 26:07Speaker 4: I don't know, Well, I'll let her answer out, you know.
- 26:13Speaker 4: But the thing is, we're putting out our content that
- 26:20Speaker 4: we're premiering it.
- 26:21Speaker 2: This Sunday, This Sunday we just shot at thirty days.
- 26:23Speaker 2: We're premiering the first ever.
- 26:24Speaker 4: So I think the timeline of when we release our
- 26:27Speaker 4: content is a big deal. We have a great marketing campaign.
- 26:31Speaker 4: We work with a lot of great folks. Shout out
- 26:33Speaker 4: to all the blogs that you know that have picked
- 26:36Speaker 4: up our content, that you know work with us as well.
- 26:38Speaker 7: I mean, it's great the Hollywood on Locks with Jason.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Lee, Kyle.
- 26:42Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to Jason Lee. Shout out to Kyle
- 26:44Speaker 4: at Neighborhood Talk and Lee and on Site. All these
- 26:47Speaker 4: guys are awesome. We have our own blogs. You know,
- 26:50Speaker 4: there's a lot of folks that you know, contribute to
- 26:53Speaker 4: the success of zeus, you know, not just not just
- 26:56Speaker 4: myself and you know, our immediate team, but just other
- 27:00Speaker 4: folks that just believe in the vision. Some weeks, the people,
- 27:03Speaker 4: it's the people's everybody involved, you know, everybody involved. And
- 27:07Speaker 4: I think we just were growing larger.
- 27:09Speaker 7: I mean it's getting crazy, you know.
- 27:11Speaker 4: We I mean, we're sponsoring a lot of folks. Were like,
- 27:14Speaker 4: we've sponsored several Diddy events. We're sponsoring his album release
- 27:17Speaker 4: party tonight. You know, We've sponsored videos with French Montana,
- 27:21Speaker 4: We've We've done all sorts of things. I mean, we
- 27:24Speaker 4: work with a lot of traditional folks.
- 27:25Speaker 7: We put on a lot of events.
- 27:28Speaker 4: You know, we're we're just doing everything we can to
- 27:30Speaker 4: make our mark and and I think I think it's working,
- 27:32Speaker 4: and I think it's I think it's doing really really well.
- 27:35Speaker 1: But Natalie, why do people think you're scared of Joscely?
- 27:40Speaker 5: I know just just has favorites and that's okay, my favorite.
- 27:44Speaker 4: Just got y'all got a little thing we need to get.
- 27:52Speaker 5: She don't want to do that?
- 27:54Speaker 6: I think she would be great on that?
- 27:58Speaker 2: Why is that? Why Why would she be on bad?
- 28:01Speaker 6: Don't want her to be.
- 28:06Speaker 4: He would be the star, he'd be the star bad boy.
- 28:12Speaker 1: I'm too zesty for.
- 28:17Speaker 3: So what's the problem with and what's the prob with Joe?
- 28:20Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with Okay, So look, let's
- 28:22Speaker 5: let's be very clear. I think with Jocelyn and I,
- 28:26Speaker 5: you know, we both I feel like we both came
- 28:29Speaker 5: into the industry around the same time. We could say
- 28:31Speaker 5: in the reality TV world that lane. You know, she
- 28:35Speaker 5: owned her lane at the time for Love and Hip Hop,
- 28:37Speaker 5: and I definitely owned the Bad Girls Club. We all
- 28:40Speaker 5: can just say that about the two of us. So,
- 28:43Speaker 5: you know, when it came down to me coming to zeus,
- 28:47Speaker 5: I think she was already like three seasons in on
- 28:50Speaker 5: Johnson's Cabaret, and I've always supported her show, like I've
- 28:52Speaker 5: always reposted, posted it up. I mean, can you agree
- 28:55Speaker 5: to that? Let me I've always I don't. It was
- 28:58Speaker 5: never like a you know, but I think, you know,
- 29:01Speaker 5: when once Patty's came and kind of did, our thing
- 29:05Speaker 5: started taking off a little more, and now obviously it's
- 29:07Speaker 5: the season four, I think it started becoming more of
- 29:10Speaker 5: just like a competition in the sense of like who's
- 29:14Speaker 5: the queen of Zeus or whose show is running Zeus you.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Know, listen, I'll say they both they both do an
- 29:20Speaker 4: amazing job. I love Jocelyn, I love Natalie, I love
- 29:24Speaker 4: all of our content partners. I think that, you know,
- 29:27Speaker 4: it's just a little healthy competitions. Jocelyn show does incredibly
- 29:30Speaker 4: well and shout out to Johnson Ballistic the success of
- 29:33Speaker 4: Johnson's Cabaret. We just you know, Jocelyn's Jocelyn's Cabaret New
- 29:37Speaker 4: York is airingan is doing incredibly well. Uh you know, so,
- 29:41Speaker 4: I think I think they look I have a great
- 29:43Speaker 4: relationship with both of them. They do interact sometimes, and
- 29:48Speaker 4: you know, it's been a little up and down from
- 29:49Speaker 4: time to time.
- 29:50Speaker 2: But I think for the most part, I think.
- 29:51Speaker 6: They do sometimes.
- 29:56Speaker 5: I mean I would, but I don't know if she would.
- 29:58Speaker 1: But why I only record that.
- 30:00Speaker 5: I mean I would.
- 30:02Speaker 4: Jocelyn's focus is our music in her show. I don't
- 30:05Speaker 4: think she wants to do that.
- 30:07Speaker 6: I think she can ring with you for the right now,
- 30:09Speaker 6: I'll make a lot of money.
- 30:13Speaker 5: Hey, I'm down. No, it's not it's it's it's not
- 30:17Speaker 5: like a I also think people stir it up. I
- 30:19Speaker 5: think people like jazz or people like she well she said,
- 30:24Speaker 5: you know, she'll say things.
- 30:25Speaker 1: Like, oh, you know a comedian.
- 30:26Speaker 5: Also, I know, listen, I let everybody live. Okay. Well,
- 30:31Speaker 5: originally just just started off by saying that Tanisha was
- 30:40Speaker 5: her favorite from Bag Girls Club and that I shouldn't
- 30:43Speaker 5: be running Bad Girls Club over at Zeus. That's how
- 30:46Speaker 5: it started. And I was like, what is she talking about? Like,
- 30:49Speaker 5: you know, so she started with that. Then the second
- 30:52Speaker 5: thing was when Kashan and Blueface's show came, and you know,
- 30:55Speaker 5: my name's in the credits as an executive producer. She
- 30:57Speaker 5: went on to say, Natalie is exploiting Kashan and making
- 31:00Speaker 5: all this money off of her. And there's a whole
- 31:02Speaker 5: thing on YouTube if you google it. Like she just
- 31:04Speaker 5: went on a rant, and so I just be like,
- 31:08Speaker 5: how is another female? Are you going to be mad
- 31:11Speaker 5: at me for just working? I'm just doing my job.
- 31:13Speaker 5: Like let me said, you know, we're just following people's stories.
- 31:16Speaker 5: I'm not telling Krashan to do this. I'm not telling
- 31:19Speaker 5: Kshan to you know, We're just following them. It's just raw,
- 31:22Speaker 5: uncensored you know, whatever they're doing. So I'm like, how
- 31:27Speaker 5: am I exploiting her? Like what like, you know, I
- 31:29Speaker 5: get the.
- 31:29Speaker 6: Only thing I would correct just on is not just
- 31:32Speaker 6: you exploiting her is let me too.
- 31:33Speaker 1: But we're not.
- 31:34Speaker 2: We're not.
- 31:35Speaker 5: Stop.
- 31:42Speaker 7: First of all, I love's great.
- 31:44Speaker 5: Oh god, I mean.
- 31:49Speaker 2: You guys were getting into it. I was trying to
- 31:51Speaker 2: calm her down and I was like, hey, well you
- 31:52Speaker 2: know she.
- 31:53Speaker 5: Got into Yeah, we were when let me sponsor that
- 31:58Speaker 5: Tycoon weekend, one of the sponsors with fifty.
- 32:01Speaker 2: And they were kind of have a little thing.
- 32:02Speaker 6: But I.
- 32:04Speaker 5: Yeah, they were going up bottom drink like, but you
- 32:09Speaker 5: were just talking.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Listen Jess, just Jess, Jess and that they both listened
- 32:20Speaker 2: to me in that moment.
- 32:22Speaker 7: It was it was we diffuse it.
- 32:24Speaker 4: And you know, I don't think they've talked ever since,
- 32:26Speaker 4: but I think you guys should.
- 32:29Speaker 5: This is.
- 32:32Speaker 7: Tell me, what did you ask me about Rashan?
- 32:35Speaker 5: We're exploiting that.
- 32:37Speaker 7: I don't even know.
- 32:37Speaker 3: You can see what I think that they don't know.
- 32:40Speaker 5: We're telling grown people we cannot tell.
- 32:42Speaker 4: First of all, I don't I don't exploit Blue Face
- 32:45Speaker 4: and Krashan. They're very their executive producers, they're very aware
- 32:49Speaker 4: of what we're filming. They are very hands on with
- 32:52Speaker 4: the post production aspect. They watched the cuts before they
- 32:57Speaker 4: are released. They give notes, They are very hands on.
- 33:00Speaker 4: We don't even I mean, if you watch the show,
- 33:03Speaker 4: there's like no real story producers like producing. It's literally
- 33:10Speaker 4: just the cameras following them.
- 33:11Speaker 3: But you never jumped there between you like it's like
- 33:13Speaker 3: you jumped in between none and yes. Right, you never
- 33:16Speaker 3: jump in between of course pants to fighting blue And
- 33:21Speaker 3: this one is drinking pregnant documented But if you drinking,
- 33:27Speaker 3: she was drinking pregnant, right, that's that was the story
- 33:30Speaker 3: smoking smoking Maybe nobody stopping.
- 33:34Speaker 2: Let me let me let me say this.
- 33:35Speaker 5: First of all, I'm not drinking.
- 33:36Speaker 2: I never. I'm not on every set on you know,
- 33:40Speaker 2: every day. That's number one. I try to be where I.
- 33:42Speaker 7: Can be as much as possible.
- 33:43Speaker 4: Sometimes we have multiple shows going at the same time,
- 33:46Speaker 4: and I wasn't really on their their production as much.
- 33:50Speaker 4: But when when we did have some really big moments,
- 33:53Speaker 4: I was there. I actually did help, you know, diffuse
- 33:56Speaker 4: the situation between Forshawn's family and Blue Face. I don't
- 33:59Speaker 4: know if you guys saw the first season and it
- 34:01Speaker 4: was like a ton of stuff that happened, you know,
- 34:03Speaker 4: I am I try to do what I can.
- 34:05Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not.
- 34:06Speaker 2: I can't control everything.
- 34:07Speaker 4: You know, our cameras capture everything, and that's part of
- 34:10Speaker 4: the brand, you know.
- 34:10Speaker 2: We we we we we we capture.
- 34:13Speaker 4: You know, all of this content in in uh, in
- 34:17Speaker 4: real time and uh and so just.
- 34:21Speaker 2: But I don't explo don't we don't exploit. We don't exploit.
- 34:27Speaker 4: We don't exploit our talent, we don't exploit, and that
- 34:29Speaker 4: and that, that narrative needs to stop.
- 34:31Speaker 2: I mean every yeah, everybody is pretty hands on and aware.
- 34:35Speaker 7: We don't control what people do.
- 34:37Speaker 4: I can't control, Like, there's no universe where I can
- 34:40Speaker 4: control Tommy and how she comes off on camera.
- 34:43Speaker 2: She did, She did a great job. She was a producer,
- 34:44Speaker 2: she was hands on with Batti's West and I love Tommy.
- 34:46Speaker 7: She's great.
- 34:47Speaker 4: But she's gonna be Tommy, just like I have no
- 34:49Speaker 4: control over Natalie. She's gonna do Natalie.
- 34:51Speaker 2: I have no control over Blue Face, Kashan, you know, Jocelyn.
- 34:55Speaker 4: I love all of them, and you know, I appreciate
- 34:58Speaker 4: that they love the relationship with me and Zeus and
- 35:00Speaker 4: they do their thing, and I think that people appreciate,
- 35:04Speaker 4: which is part of the success of Zeus at this
- 35:07Speaker 4: current time, you know, the real realness and the rawness
- 35:11Speaker 4: of of in the authenticity piece of it all.
- 35:15Speaker 6: Answer this question and tell me if you think it's fair.
- 35:16Speaker 6: This is a question from Forbes. Forbes wrote an article
- 35:19Speaker 6: a woman named Maya Hoskin. The headline is and it's
- 35:22Speaker 6: a question, does Lamiel Lemiel.
- 35:25Speaker 2: You just said, let me Lemuel plumber, lemmeel.
- 35:27Speaker 6: Plumbers ZEUS Network represent everything that is wrong with how
- 35:30Speaker 6: black people are portrayed on TV. Answer that question.
- 35:33Speaker 7: Absolutely not, absolutely not.
- 35:37Speaker 2: No, I'm not the originator of you know, black women.
- 35:44Speaker 4: I mean, look, every industry, every like you got, people
- 35:49Speaker 4: could call your show salacious or you know, conflict driven.
- 35:53Speaker 4: You guys exploit black people. I mean I'm not. I
- 35:56Speaker 4: think you guys do a great job. I think you
- 35:58Speaker 4: guys do a great job asking the real question being
- 36:00Speaker 4: your authentic selves. I would I would love if somebody
- 36:04Speaker 4: is pick up the club. I picked up the breakfast
- 36:05Speaker 4: club in a heartbeat, if we had the opportuin But
- 36:09Speaker 4: you know, I would, But I think that No. I mean,
- 36:11Speaker 4: I look, shows have been going on, These types of
- 36:14Speaker 4: shows have been going on for decades.
- 36:16Speaker 7: I'm not the originator of of you know.
- 36:19Speaker 4: Black content and and and you know, certain types of
- 36:24Speaker 4: formats and shows. You know, I think that we've we've
- 36:28Speaker 4: you know, been able to capture it in its raw
- 36:31Speaker 4: form and be able to put it out and distribute
- 36:34Speaker 4: it in a unique way where it is, uh, it's
- 36:37Speaker 4: it's entertaining, and you know, uh, some of it has
- 36:42Speaker 4: shock value, some of it has drama, some of it
- 36:44Speaker 4: has some levity and comedy, some of it.
- 36:46Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's so many different components.
- 36:48Speaker 7: So yes, I don't know if you really watched all
- 36:51Speaker 7: the episodes.
- 36:51Speaker 3: Every episode.
- 36:52Speaker 2: So people people watch clips, people watch trailers, and they
- 36:55Speaker 2: make judgments.
- 36:56Speaker 4: I guarantee that writer, if you had to ask this writer,
- 36:58Speaker 4: do you physically watch every episod.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Sort of every series she has?
- 37:02Speaker 7: She doesn't. I'm assuming that's my assumption.
- 37:04Speaker 6: But I watched one episode. I saw three fights. I
- 37:07Speaker 6: saw a woman swing on a pole and kick another
- 37:09Speaker 6: woman in the stomach.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Entertain But I was like Jesus.
- 37:13Speaker 3: But with no structure, right, no structure, no rules, Right,
- 37:16Speaker 3: do you ever get to a point where it's like,
- 37:18Speaker 3: if something goes bad with somebody that you're working with,
- 37:21Speaker 3: that they turn that on you because there is no
- 37:22Speaker 3: structural rules, and people know that they could hit, they
- 37:24Speaker 3: can punch, they could fight, and there is they're not
- 37:28Speaker 3: gonna get fired. So if you have to do something
- 37:30Speaker 3: that pisses somebody off, who's to say, Natalie, None won't
- 37:33Speaker 3: turn around and smack their shadow. You will punch you.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Listen. Well, first of all, I've experienced I've experienced a
- 37:38Speaker 2: lot of things, you know, not me. I'm not going
- 37:42Speaker 2: to say someoney really.
- 37:43Speaker 6: Put hands on you.
- 37:46Speaker 2: I'm not gonna know, but somebody really put hands on you.
- 37:49Speaker 3: Ain't person.
- 37:50Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't like that. I think it was
- 37:52Speaker 2: just the heat of the moment.
- 37:53Speaker 4: I'm very forgiving and patient when it comes to certain things.
- 37:58Speaker 7: Uh.
- 37:59Speaker 2: You know again, I'm very aware.
- 38:00Speaker 7: Of who I work with.
- 38:01Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, no I am. I mean, some people
- 38:06Speaker 2: will call us the second Chance Network.
- 38:08Speaker 4: We give a lot of people, you know, the opportunity
- 38:10Speaker 4: to come back and return to TV and be themselves.
- 38:13Speaker 4: I think that, you know again, we're a subscription video
- 38:15Speaker 4: on demand platform, so I think our content just is
- 38:19Speaker 4: a little louder because we're not We're not, you know,
- 38:23Speaker 4: generating revenue off of advertising, so we don't censor our content,
- 38:27Speaker 4: so we allow things to play out, and I think
- 38:30Speaker 4: people appreciate that when you have to water things.
- 38:33Speaker 2: Down, when you have to edit it in a way,
- 38:35Speaker 2: when you.
- 38:36Speaker 4: Have to censor it, I think that, you know, I
- 38:38Speaker 4: think that that's kind of old school. I think that's
- 38:40Speaker 4: old school. I think we live in a day and
- 38:42Speaker 4: age where a lot of folks are desensitized with a
- 38:45Speaker 4: lot of.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Put hands on you. It still works for the network,
- 38:46Speaker 3: And you ain't got to say the person name. Reason
- 38:48Speaker 3: I say it because at the end of the day,
- 38:49Speaker 3: I get it.
- 38:50Speaker 2: Has anybody hands on you here?
- 38:51Speaker 1: No?
- 38:54Speaker 6: Has any ever put hands on you couple times?
- 38:56Speaker 2: Really like smacked your Yeah, well you talk.
- 38:59Speaker 1: People that work here? Oh no, no, No, nobody or any
- 39:01Speaker 1: of your now out in the street. Oh yeah, you know.
- 39:05Speaker 1: I don't.
- 39:05Speaker 7: I've never experienced that.
- 39:06Speaker 2: But you know, look, I work with a lot of females.
- 39:09Speaker 4: If a female, I'm not gonna react like so yes,
- 39:13Speaker 4: to answer your question, do they still work. We've talked
- 39:15Speaker 4: about it.
- 39:15Speaker 3: We've decided to get an older cousin.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Well, you gotta be let me move. Like the President,
- 39:21Speaker 1: I've heard I've seen him.
- 39:22Speaker 5: You.
- 39:22Speaker 6: You don't know I saw you, but I've seen you
- 39:24Speaker 6: out in about.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they they don't.
- 39:28Speaker 4: I have a great security team, shout out to after
- 39:32Speaker 4: we just you know, look.
- 39:34Speaker 2: Being boots on the ground, I got it.
- 39:35Speaker 4: I got to make sure we're I'm protected and the
- 39:37Speaker 4: folks that I move around with.
- 39:38Speaker 3: I've seen with Mayo though, right, I know you Squatchedhi
- 39:40Speaker 3: from the how they may don't get that close.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Eatn as well. He didn't get well.
- 39:45Speaker 2: We were at a club.
- 39:48Speaker 1: I don't know who he was.
- 39:49Speaker 3: They bumped into each other. Mano just thought he was
- 39:51Speaker 3: a guy trying to grab the mic and talk and
- 39:53Speaker 3: Mayo was main No.
- 39:57Speaker 1: Man was choking that dude.
- 39:59Speaker 7: No, he didn't know.
- 39:59Speaker 1: He didn't.
- 40:00Speaker 7: He just gave me a little shove.
- 40:02Speaker 2: And you know, now we got in there security.
- 40:08Speaker 4: My security understands how to They're not going to just
- 40:10Speaker 4: immediately react and go up because that could be dangerous.
- 40:13Speaker 4: And you know, so I just you know, signaled like
- 40:16Speaker 4: let's keep it cool, like it's okay, Like I'm all right,
- 40:19Speaker 4: you know.
- 40:19Speaker 1: But you'll ain't want them problems with me.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Oh yeah you will.
- 40:24Speaker 6: First party though, it was they was like I don't
- 40:27Speaker 6: care who.
- 40:27Speaker 1: Party I have.
- 40:28Speaker 4: I have nothing but respect and love for me. Know,
- 40:30Speaker 4: we talked about it the next day on live. It
- 40:32Speaker 4: went viral and he, you know, in his own unique
- 40:35Speaker 4: way acknowledge.
- 40:37Speaker 3: His way apologize.
- 40:39Speaker 6: Yeah, he didn't.
- 40:39Speaker 4: He didn't say, hey man, sorry, He's like, my bad.
- 40:41Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know that was you. And you
- 40:43Speaker 4: know we squashed and it was cool. We actually had
- 40:44Speaker 4: a phone call face and that, you know, it was crazy,
- 40:46Speaker 4: So you know it's okay. Look, everybody doesn't know who
- 40:49Speaker 4: I am. They don't, and that's fine. I mean, and
- 40:51Speaker 4: now I think you know people, you.
- 40:56Speaker 2: Do a lot of face, a lot of face. Here
- 40:59Speaker 2: we go.
- 41:04Speaker 1: It shouldn't even be a joke.
- 41:05Speaker 5: We are gonna have beef forever you're not.
- 41:08Speaker 2: It's gonna be.
- 41:11Speaker 1: So crazy.
- 41:12Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question, how do you go
- 41:15Speaker 6: from that to serious? That's my biggest issue with Lemon.
- 41:18Speaker 6: Let me say something that makes a lot of sense.
- 41:20Speaker 6: You talk about breakfast club. Breakfast Club gets all the smoke,
- 41:23Speaker 6: We get all the accountability. People will always hold us accountable.
- 41:27Speaker 6: I don't feel like you're smoke, and I feel like
- 41:29Speaker 6: you're hiding behind the Natalies and the jack and you let.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Them take the smoke. But you don't get it because.
- 41:35Speaker 6: Mona got smoked. Shaney O'Neil got smoked. But you will
- 41:38Speaker 6: never see people like Andy Coo when really get too
- 41:40Speaker 6: much smoke.
- 41:40Speaker 4: You're talking about executive producers. I'm the CEO of the network.
- 41:44Speaker 4: I mean it's different. I respect all of them. They're
- 41:46Speaker 4: all great, So I mean I'm the CEO of the network.
- 41:48Speaker 2: So it's just it's not you know.
- 41:50Speaker 3: So you should get the most smoking.
- 41:52Speaker 4: Really, listen, you said, hold on, you're mad at me
- 41:55Speaker 4: because you don't get no smoke.
- 41:57Speaker 1: I get nobody said no. Just the article, just the
- 42:00Speaker 1: one article.
- 42:01Speaker 6: I saw asking this question about Listen, like they've said
- 42:05Speaker 6: that we are the worst humans ever were setting the
- 42:08Speaker 6: Black Race back. We all time, we get the worst
- 42:11Speaker 6: stuff about it.
- 42:12Speaker 2: We get that too.
- 42:13Speaker 1: We get that. I get that enough. Everybody listening to
- 42:19Speaker 1: get canceled to need to get more smokes.
- 42:24Speaker 2: The ceo.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Winning What Costs shows that Winning.
- 42:34Speaker 3: People Networks started a network, figured it out. His business
- 42:38Speaker 3: structure is great.
- 42:38Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 42:39Speaker 3: A lot of checks.
- 42:40Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that. Look, look we
- 42:43Speaker 2: we we balance it out in different ways.
- 42:45Speaker 4: Uh you know, like like I said, we we we have.
- 42:48Speaker 2: A great relationship.
- 42:49Speaker 4: I have a great relationship with Like you said, the Floyds,
- 42:51Speaker 4: the diddies.
- 42:52Speaker 2: You know, we have we do. There's a fling, tropic.
- 42:55Speaker 4: Feeling, tropic philanthropic side uh of zeus that we we
- 42:59Speaker 4: give back.
- 43:00Speaker 7: We employ a lot of folks.
- 43:01Speaker 1: To show more that I really don't agree with that,
- 43:04Speaker 1: a lot more of that.
- 43:05Speaker 2: But I do get I do. I do feel it.
- 43:06Speaker 2: I do feel it. I do feel it.
- 43:08Speaker 4: You know, I'm not on the front lines probably like
- 43:10Speaker 4: you guys, like you guys have a talk show, you
- 43:12Speaker 4: you have multiple things that you're on screen every day,
- 43:15Speaker 4: so yeah, you'll probably feel it a little bit more.
- 43:17Speaker 4: I think the EPs, you know, are different than a CEO.
- 43:21Speaker 4: So it's it's it's it's different. So I just I
- 43:23Speaker 4: feel like, you know, I feel it. I do get
- 43:26Speaker 4: people talking and saying things all the time. You know,
- 43:28Speaker 4: I'm not going to respond to everything, you know, That's
- 43:31Speaker 4: the thing.
- 43:31Speaker 7: I don't.
- 43:31Speaker 4: I don't need to respond to every and get in
- 43:34Speaker 4: the MILUTIONI nuances of everything that somebody says or claims
- 43:37Speaker 4: or you know what.
- 43:38Speaker 2: They may say negative about me.
- 43:40Speaker 1: I bless you.
- 43:41Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not going to do it, you know
- 43:47Speaker 2: what I mean.
- 43:47Speaker 4: But it's it's I also feel like I have a
- 43:49Speaker 4: great relationship with folks too. So it's I think people
- 43:52Speaker 4: see my heart and the spirit. You know of what
- 43:56Speaker 4: I mean, when when we when when things happen, I
- 43:59Speaker 4: think I don't know. I I just look, man, I
- 44:02Speaker 4: want to do right by people. I think I feel
- 44:04Speaker 4: like a pirate.
- 44:05Speaker 6: I think it's what's the word pyriate victory a victory
- 44:08Speaker 6: that even though you win, so much is lost.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Achieving that win.
- 44:14Speaker 6: I say that one more time, pyrick victory is a
- 44:16Speaker 6: victory that's not worth winning because so much.
- 44:18Speaker 2: Is Lost's cheap, but what's lost?
- 44:20Speaker 6: Or people would say, like you know, when we say
- 44:22Speaker 6: the degradation of women, are watching women fight each other
- 44:25Speaker 6: all the time.
- 44:25Speaker 2: But here's here's here's my thing.
- 44:28Speaker 7: We're five years old.
- 44:29Speaker 2: We have all sorts of plans grow we have. We
- 44:33Speaker 2: have all sorts of.
- 44:34Speaker 4: Plans to diversify our content. I don't have unlimited budgets.
- 44:37Speaker 4: This is this is self financed, right, I self financed us.
- 44:42Speaker 4: All the money that we make we put right back
- 44:43Speaker 4: into the network. We pay our content partners great. We
- 44:47Speaker 4: do fair deals. We're not you know, some cheap network.
- 44:51Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, we do
- 44:52Speaker 4: everything we can to bring value to folks. So for me,
- 44:55Speaker 4: we're diversifying our content.
- 44:58Speaker 2: We will we are tapping in the scripted looking for
- 45:01Speaker 2: those right.
- 45:01Speaker 7: Right projects to green light.
- 45:03Speaker 4: You know, we are getting into sports, you know, we
- 45:07Speaker 4: we're getting into music.
- 45:09Speaker 2: And so there's just a lot of things that's happening
- 45:11Speaker 2: with ZEUS.
- 45:11Speaker 4: I think you guys are just looking at this iteration
- 45:14Speaker 4: of ZEUS right now, and that's that's fair, and that's fine.
- 45:17Speaker 4: But I think that there's a lot that you know
- 45:20Speaker 4: is happening with the network that you guys will see
- 45:22Speaker 4: in the near future. And so yes, we'll still have
- 45:24Speaker 4: shows like Baddie's Johnson's Cabaret, you know, certain dating shows
- 45:29Speaker 4: and you know, all.
- 45:31Speaker 2: Sorts of things.
- 45:31Speaker 4: But we like to take risk, you know, we like
- 45:34Speaker 4: to take risks, Like even when we green lit Bobby's
- 45:36Speaker 4: dating show that was like one of the first.
- 45:38Speaker 2: Gay dating shows.
- 45:39Speaker 4: You know, we got a little bit of flat for that,
- 45:41Speaker 4: but I felt like Bobby deserved a show. He's a
- 45:44Speaker 4: great talent, he was an executive producer. It was a
- 45:47Speaker 4: great show people, It was loud as provocative. So I think,
- 45:50Speaker 4: you know, we we we want to take those chances.
- 45:52Speaker 4: We want to experiment a little bit, but we also
- 45:54Speaker 4: are going to balance it out.
- 45:55Speaker 7: We do have some shows in.
- 45:56Speaker 4: The pipeline that we're going to be distributing, you know
- 46:00Speaker 4: that that aren't really focused on some of the other
- 46:02Speaker 4: things that you guys see. So just give us a
- 46:04Speaker 4: little bit more time. Man, We're only five years old.
- 46:06Speaker 4: A lot of these networks have been around for decades.
- 46:08Speaker 2: BET's been around for probably over three to.
- 46:10Speaker 4: Thirty years, you know, and you know they've they've grown.
- 46:14Speaker 4: They started off probably doing music videos and this short people.
- 46:17Speaker 4: So it's just, you know, just just just stick with us,
- 46:20Speaker 4: give us an opportunity to show you guys that, yes.
- 46:23Speaker 2: You know right now is loud as producative.
- 46:25Speaker 4: Will still continue to be loud, but you know what,
- 46:28Speaker 4: we will diversify our content and we will put out
- 46:31Speaker 4: new shows and I and I'm I'm really excited about
- 46:34Speaker 4: the future of ZEUS.
- 46:35Speaker 6: I still don't think you should be from any smoke, though,
- 46:38Speaker 6: I think the same smoke Moent's got, young guy, you
- 46:41Speaker 6: should get this time.
- 46:41Speaker 2: I'm not Mona.
- 46:42Speaker 6: They've been giving that because he's hiding behind y'all.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Does he think I'm hiding.
- 46:51Speaker 7: I want to tell people.
- 46:52Speaker 4: I want to understand the the your your thought process
- 46:56Speaker 4: with when you say that, what do you mean when
- 46:57Speaker 4: you say I'm hiding behind it?
- 46:59Speaker 7: Why do you think I behind him?
- 47:00Speaker 6: Because they're they're the face, They're facing the network, They're
- 47:03Speaker 6: the front facing. When you think face is networking, think Natalie,
- 47:06Speaker 6: you think Johnson, you think for Shan any networking. But
- 47:15Speaker 6: let me is behind that, you know, and every now
- 47:17Speaker 6: and then you pop up, but not enough to really
- 47:20Speaker 6: get no smoke.
- 47:22Speaker 7: I don't want. I don't want to smoke.
- 47:25Speaker 2: I want to love.
- 47:26Speaker 7: I want.
- 47:27Speaker 3: But I will say this who most people don't know
- 47:29Speaker 3: the CEO.
- 47:29Speaker 6: They don't because this is a black on network.
- 47:32Speaker 3: Most people don't even know the CEO of.
- 47:34Speaker 1: Boundary right now.
- 47:35Speaker 6: But it's a black on network founded by Lemmy right,
- 47:38Speaker 6: and he's black.
- 47:39Speaker 1: That's the thing.
- 47:40Speaker 6: If sadly, if it was a white person, they probably
- 47:43Speaker 6: wouldn't be saying anything, you know what I mean. But
- 47:45Speaker 6: because you're black, people expect you to do better by
- 47:47Speaker 6: your people.
- 47:48Speaker 4: Right, Well, they don't let me ask you a question
- 47:51Speaker 4: like they don't come after the CEO of Viacom he's white.
- 47:55Speaker 3: What I just said, because he's saying because he's white, they.
- 47:58Speaker 4: Come after me, so I deserve this you outside, you
- 48:01Speaker 4: in the club with interviews.
- 48:04Speaker 2: I'm I'm young.
- 48:05Speaker 4: I'm I'm young, you know, like I said, we were
- 48:08Speaker 4: we're not a traditional network. So I'm I and I
- 48:12Speaker 4: take pride in that. I'm happy, like we can do
- 48:14Speaker 4: things different differently the most networks. You know, there's a
- 48:17Speaker 4: lot of restrictions. There's a lot of things that you
- 48:19Speaker 4: can't do. I think that it helps.
- 48:20Speaker 2: I think me.
- 48:21Speaker 4: Going to the club sometimes from time time shows me
- 48:24Speaker 4: that I'm reachable. I'm here, I'm there with our stars
- 48:27Speaker 4: and some of our folks, and we like to have
- 48:29Speaker 4: a good time.
- 48:30Speaker 1: You know.
- 48:30Speaker 2: I'm not there all the time, but yeah, I try to.
- 48:32Speaker 4: I try to do as much as I can and
- 48:34Speaker 4: be as reachable, to be as accessible.
- 48:38Speaker 7: You know.
- 48:39Speaker 2: I get cussed out on text messages from time and time.
- 48:41Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of things that happen. Like
- 48:43Speaker 2: I said, for me, I do get smoke, you know.
- 48:46Speaker 4: I just I think that most people would respond to
- 48:49Speaker 4: the smoke.
- 48:50Speaker 2: I don't usually respond to it. And that's that's the
- 48:53Speaker 2: thing for me.
- 48:54Speaker 4: It's it's just like I'm not gonna get involved in
- 48:57Speaker 4: all of that. It's just like I have I do
- 48:59Speaker 4: have a lot going on. Running a network is a
- 49:01Speaker 4: lot of work. So if there's you know, egregious things
- 49:07Speaker 4: that are said online from anybody or you know, I
- 49:10Speaker 4: just I don't really get involved in the minution nuances
- 49:12Speaker 4: of that. I mean that we've been you know, there's
- 49:14Speaker 4: been We've been doing this for years now. I mean
- 49:16Speaker 4: people have said all sorts of things for years.
- 49:18Speaker 2: I just don't.
- 49:19Speaker 7: I just don't respond.
- 49:20Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times.
- 49:21Speaker 1: You know, what's your Twitter? What's your Twitter? And Instagram?
- 49:25Speaker 7: Lemmeal plumber my name?
- 49:31Speaker 4: He wants me to turn off the comments.
- 49:36Speaker 3: Yes, are you and Charlemagne good nows?
- 49:40Speaker 5: Oh lord?
- 49:42Speaker 6: You do have a double major in sociology, sociology and communication,
- 49:45Speaker 6: which when you was here ten years ago, That's one
- 49:47Speaker 6: of the things I said. I was like, don't you
- 49:49Speaker 6: want to utilize those degrees? Do you feel like you're
- 49:52Speaker 6: utilizing them now?
- 49:53Speaker 5: Yes?
- 49:53Speaker 7: For sure.
- 49:54Speaker 5: I feel like now that I'm like executive producing Baddies,
- 49:58Speaker 5: I deal with all of the girls girls every day,
- 50:00Speaker 5: like I'm hands on, you know, with Lemmy and the team,
- 50:04Speaker 5: whether it's casting, you know, working with the girls on
- 50:08Speaker 5: camera and off camera. Just you know, I feel like
- 50:11Speaker 5: my communications degree definitely helps in that field because for
- 50:17Speaker 5: some reason, I could smack the shit out of a girl,
- 50:19Speaker 5: we could still have a conversation five minutes after and
- 50:22Speaker 5: then even then, you know, sociology, I really understand a
- 50:26Speaker 5: lot of the girls and and just any even the
- 50:28Speaker 5: bad boys, like you know, uh, you know, the study
- 50:33Speaker 5: of people is really you know what sociology is. So
- 50:36Speaker 5: I feel like I definitely am able to utilize both
- 50:39Speaker 5: of my degrees. I think I told you that before,
- 50:41Speaker 5: even you know, when I was up here years ago.
- 50:43Speaker 5: Like reality TV, I think that is really what's helped
- 50:47Speaker 5: me be a reality star and now even like a boss,
- 50:52Speaker 5: because I can literally sit there listen to them get
- 50:56Speaker 5: I get it. I get it, and you know, work.
- 50:58Speaker 6: With them, and it's helped you tomulate people, right because
- 51:01Speaker 6: because you know what you're doing on social media, and
- 51:04Speaker 6: I guess that's the only thing that I'll be tripping
- 51:05Speaker 6: off because like you know, even last week when you
- 51:07Speaker 6: went to the whole tirade.
- 51:09Speaker 1: But I'm like, and what.
- 51:10Speaker 5: She's doing, I do know what I'm doing.
- 51:12Speaker 2: You know.
- 51:14Speaker 5: Me and Bobby Lights, we were at the hotel in
- 51:16Speaker 5: New York and he came down to my room we
- 51:18Speaker 5: were here with Zeus or whatever, and he came down
- 51:19Speaker 5: and said, he said, you know what she were doing?
- 51:21Speaker 5: He just wanted to respond, pulled up the segment. I
- 51:24Speaker 5: guess it was like the next morning, you guys were
- 51:25Speaker 5: talking about the same morning. He's like, look, and I
- 51:29Speaker 5: was like, Charlamagne misses me.
- 51:32Speaker 3: I know, he just wake up, just just make up.
- 51:37Speaker 1: But I know, but I know these things. I guess
- 51:39Speaker 1: that's the only thing.
- 51:40Speaker 6: He's a great story producer.
- 51:42Speaker 5: It is really good.
- 51:42Speaker 6: I just want people to see the side because people
- 51:46Speaker 6: do follow you, they do watch you, and I think
- 51:49Speaker 6: you old these people to show them all of that
- 51:51Speaker 6: whole totality of Natalie.
- 51:54Speaker 5: I think they they're getting it. I mean that the
- 51:56Speaker 5: thing is is like I do feel like I live
- 51:58Speaker 5: two lives. And I'm gonna be honest because I you know,
- 52:00Speaker 5: I'm on reality shows with other females that you probably
- 52:03Speaker 5: would not see me with all the time and every day.
- 52:05Speaker 5: But we're living together for a month and a half,
- 52:08Speaker 5: two months or whatever while we're filming, and then I
- 52:09Speaker 5: go home. You know, I have like family and so
- 52:13Speaker 5: you know, my friends from home, and so it is
- 52:16Speaker 5: like a balance for me. I have to you know,
- 52:19Speaker 5: tap back into you know, being the boss baddie. Now,
- 52:23Speaker 5: I don't really I'm not on the show like Bad
- 52:25Speaker 5: Girls Club ten years ago, like being manipulative and do that.
- 52:29Speaker 5: I actually am in just sitting there, like, so, how
- 52:31Speaker 5: can we figure this out? Girls? Like you know you
- 52:33Speaker 5: guys want to fight it out, fight it out if not?
- 52:35Speaker 5: Like you know, so I have grown up, but I
- 52:38Speaker 5: can still be very manipulative.
- 52:40Speaker 1: You know, special sociology degree.
- 52:41Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and you was an athlete and you go
- 52:44Speaker 6: to the Junior Olympics.
- 52:45Speaker 2: Or some shit.
- 52:45Speaker 5: I did, and I played soccer at USC you know
- 52:47Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
- 52:48Speaker 1: That, Like people need to see that.
- 52:49Speaker 6: That's why I get frustrated at because I'm like, You're
- 52:52Speaker 6: more than just the reality show.
- 52:54Speaker 2: For sure.
- 52:54Speaker 5: I mean you, but I feel like over the what
- 52:57Speaker 5: is it fourteen years now of me being on reality TV?
- 53:00Speaker 5: People know that, you know, I don't think they know
- 53:02Speaker 5: what they know.
- 53:03Speaker 1: I don't think they do. Did you know all that
- 53:05Speaker 1: about Natalie? Yes?
- 53:06Speaker 5: Yeah, And then I went over I did I did
- 53:09Speaker 5: Big Celebrity Big Brother London and we did all the
- 53:12Speaker 5: little challenge and then we did the challenge showing they
- 53:14Speaker 5: know they know, they know.
- 53:16Speaker 6: How do you keep yourself from really getting mad, like
- 53:19Speaker 6: when you like when you're really about to get upset,
- 53:21Speaker 6: Like what do you do up?
- 53:22Speaker 1: Shoulder back?
- 53:23Speaker 6: Breathe, You got this?
- 53:30Speaker 5: This is what he does.
- 53:32Speaker 6: Everything a joke, Like what you technique let's chin up,
- 53:37Speaker 6: shoulder back.
- 53:39Speaker 1: You got this, that's a technique. Your therapist.
- 53:44Speaker 5: Again, breathe, smack the ship out of you. Now. The
- 53:54Speaker 5: thing is is, you know, the girls do do ship
- 53:56Speaker 5: still to this day. And I think at this point
- 53:59Speaker 5: because of where I'm at, you know, like even especially
- 54:02Speaker 5: at Zeus, I mean, everybody wants to be at the top,
- 54:06Speaker 5: so they find a way to come for me, whether
- 54:09Speaker 5: you know, if it's Tommy coming on my show. And
- 54:11Speaker 5: again like I got in the ring with Tommy, we
- 54:13Speaker 5: did our big one. We fought at the reunion because
- 54:15Speaker 5: it was it was more than just the words and
- 54:18Speaker 5: the bickering. Now it's like you're trying to come for
- 54:21Speaker 5: a spot that's not your spot, and let's just be
- 54:23Speaker 5: very clear, like you're just you're on my show, which
- 54:26Speaker 5: is Baddies is my show and have a little respect.
- 54:29Speaker 5: But the thing about females are there just really caddy
- 54:32Speaker 5: and it's just never gonna that is never gonna change.
- 54:36Speaker 5: Girls are caddy jealous, They can be malicious just they
- 54:40Speaker 5: could be very nasty individuals. So I feel like now,
- 54:43Speaker 5: for me, the only way I'm gonna really snap and
- 54:45Speaker 5: smack the shit out of a bitch is if you're
- 54:48Speaker 5: really fucking with my money or you're doing some weird shit,
- 54:50Speaker 5: you're being weird behind the scenes. That's when it can
- 54:54Speaker 5: get ugly. So I got in the ring with Tommy.
- 54:56Speaker 5: We did our thing, and she's still you know, I
- 54:58Speaker 5: think it was what Floyd made Whether we can try
- 55:00Speaker 5: to pull up on me at a little spot in South.
- 55:03Speaker 1: Beach, I have nothing.
- 55:04Speaker 2: I have nothing to do with this.
- 55:06Speaker 3: How I gonna fight Like.
- 55:07Speaker 5: I told her to come inside and she was just
- 55:09Speaker 5: outside doing you know time you're gonna be fifty fighting.
- 55:13Speaker 5: The housewives was just their fifty fighting. I'm only in
- 55:16Speaker 5: my third right. I didn't say it was right, but
- 55:18Speaker 5: I'm just saying we get I get backlash for that too,
- 55:21Speaker 5: Like you know.
- 55:22Speaker 7: Who's the CEO?
- 55:23Speaker 2: Who's the CEO of Bravo, NBC, NBC.
- 55:32Speaker 6: We appreciate you guys for joining, and I think I
- 55:34Speaker 6: think we're going to continue to see a lot of
- 55:36Speaker 6: evolution from Natalie nothing, just like people see continue to
- 55:38Speaker 6: see a lot of evolution from me, you know what
- 55:40Speaker 6: I mean. I think that you're going to continue to grow.
- 55:42Speaker 6: I think we're going to start to see the whole totality.
- 55:46Speaker 5: What's kind of what's gonna girl? Not my chin.
- 55:51Speaker 6: I'm telling you this sincerely. I'm sending you nothing but
- 55:54Speaker 6: positive love and light. I want you to keep your
- 55:56Speaker 6: head up, keep your chin up, and most importantly, keep smiling,
- 55:59Speaker 6: because like a beautiful thing.
- 56:00Speaker 1: Okay, there's so much this, so we're cool.
- 56:02Speaker 5: Now, so we're cool.
- 56:03Speaker 2: Were so sweet that I wanted to say one other thing.
- 56:13Speaker 2: You got to talk about your show that is.
- 56:15Speaker 6: Drops this Sunday, this Sunday.
- 56:16Speaker 2: That is East.
- 56:17Speaker 5: That is East, So we're on the East.
- 56:19Speaker 2: Coast and it's this season is really wet.
- 56:23Speaker 5: Suki on there. We got Mariah Lynn.
- 56:26Speaker 1: How does that work?
- 56:27Speaker 6: Because I thought Suki's on Love and Hip Hop if
- 56:30Speaker 6: you know, there's no exclusivity.
- 56:33Speaker 7: That's not our our issue.
- 56:36Speaker 2: But no, Suki's on there.
- 56:39Speaker 5: We got Sean's on there. I'm getting backlash for that.
- 56:44Speaker 1: We got talk about that.
- 56:47Speaker 6: Now the cast is lit this seasons.
- 56:50Speaker 5: I mean, well, she's on there performing and stuff, and
- 56:51Speaker 5: she was pregnant. People were like, she's pregnant.
- 56:54Speaker 2: Her sister's on there too, sisters on the she was
- 56:56Speaker 2: there with her. We have returning, Scotty's returning.
- 57:00Speaker 5: Got it with the body?
- 57:01Speaker 7: Who else any big Eave's attorney?
- 57:03Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know we have like that. She was
- 57:08Speaker 5: from the East Coast, so she really did her big
- 57:10Speaker 5: one this season.
- 57:10Speaker 2: We love Vicky.
- 57:11Speaker 5: Whoa Vicky?
- 57:12Speaker 6: You know?
- 57:13Speaker 5: Whoa Vicky?
- 57:14Speaker 1: Didn't heart fight is something?
- 57:16Speaker 5: How do you know? You watching.
- 57:20Speaker 6: The producers put that on the paper. I didn't know
- 57:22Speaker 6: who these people were.
- 57:27Speaker 3: Vicky white girl?
- 57:28Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, do you have beef with the girl? Catch
- 57:33Speaker 5: me outside or whatever?
- 57:34Speaker 6: They're you know, went okay, So did they fight for
- 57:36Speaker 6: the people?
- 57:37Speaker 2: You know?
- 57:39Speaker 7: There was no fighting.
- 57:40Speaker 4: But the show does come out this Sunday, This Sunday,
- 57:43Speaker 4: uh this September seventeen years September seventeenth. So we're really
- 57:47Speaker 4: really excited about Baddie's East and uh, you know.
- 57:51Speaker 5: The fans are so excited about Battiss like the East Coast.
- 57:55Speaker 2: There, who else is on there?
- 57:58Speaker 5: It's a big this was this is a big season
- 58:00Speaker 5: for real, Like this.
- 58:01Speaker 7: Is probably anna.
- 58:05Speaker 5: Oh god, that's going by right now. That she snatched
- 58:10Speaker 5: my Island's chain from this like so much gonna watch
- 58:17Speaker 5: the sky?
- 58:17Speaker 1: Is there a sky?
- 58:18Speaker 5: From Sky's on the show?
- 58:20Speaker 1: One seasons?
- 58:22Speaker 2: Actually?
- 58:23Speaker 7: You know the thing is, I've talked to the highest
- 58:25Speaker 7: level at Viacom. Uh you know, uh, I can't remember
- 58:30Speaker 7: the guy.
- 58:30Speaker 4: It was a Christmas No, no, no, the Viacom Bob
- 58:33Speaker 4: and okay, okay, got your keys.
- 58:35Speaker 7: Who's the CEO or something?
- 58:37Speaker 6: We had.
- 58:37Speaker 4: We had a couple of conversations. They were yeah, to
- 58:40Speaker 4: answer your questions. They did reach out about season desist,
- 58:45Speaker 4: but I mean, I don't know why. I mean they
- 58:48Speaker 4: why would you send out a season desist?
- 58:50Speaker 1: You think they're gonna buy you one day?
- 58:52Speaker 2: Sure, if they may listen. If I'm open, I would
- 58:54Speaker 2: love to work with.
- 58:55Speaker 4: Any of the media conglomerates, the NBC's, the Viacoms. I
- 58:59Speaker 4: think it'd be great to come up with some type
- 59:01Speaker 4: of partnership or acquisition. I think, yeah, if the price
- 59:06Speaker 4: is right and it makes sense one hundred, I think yeah.
- 59:09Speaker 7: I think right now, Zeus is you.
- 59:11Speaker 4: Know we're looking at that that that that billion dollar
- 59:15Speaker 4: you know valuation so or or you know, it's it's
- 59:19Speaker 4: definitely it's definitely doing really well in the company where
- 59:22Speaker 4: we're we're doing extremely well.
- 59:24Speaker 7: So I'm super excited.
- 59:25Speaker 4: But yeah, we've we've We've had some folks reach out.
- 59:28Speaker 4: You know, I'm just not ready to sell right now.
- 59:31Speaker 4: Like I said, it have to be the it have
- 59:33Speaker 4: to be the right deal, and it have to make sense.
- 59:36Speaker 7: Uh, And you know, I enjoy I enjoy.
- 59:38Speaker 1: Doing what I'm doing, but we'll make some sense. Season desists.
- 59:44Speaker 7: You know, we've sent them.
- 59:45Speaker 4: I think it was I don't know, I honestly they
- 59:48Speaker 4: they reached out about some folks that maybe participated in
- 59:52Speaker 4: some of the shows, but that's not really our issue.
- 59:54Speaker 2: You know that the deal is not with Zeus. The
- 59:57Speaker 2: deal is with you know, clients, So if they're in breach,
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with us.
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: Does Floyd owned equity in the company.
- 1:00:05Speaker 7: No, Floyd does not own equity and Zeus.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: But we have been talking about some you know how
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: some ways of partner and you know, for him to
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: become a strategic partner in Zeus. And so we've we've
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: had those discussions and you know, I think we're both
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: open to uh exploring some things. So uh, yeah, you know,
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: Floyd is great. We've had a lot of people. Man,
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: A lot of people reach out.
- 1:00:28Speaker 7: We've we've it's been great.
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: Did he did he actually, you know, has reached out,
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: you know, wanting to come up with some type of
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: partnership or make some investment.
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: You said, y'all contracts to fail. Ory'll treating talent all
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: over there?
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: I love did he did?
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: He is an inspiration. Congrats on his u Icon Global
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: Icon Award at the tv b m A.
- 1:00:54Speaker 7: Also his uh album you know an album?
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: I mean, all the team over there, Stevie, j Frankie,
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: you know, all those guys that work with with Puff,
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: they've they've done a great job, you know, DP, all
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: those guys, they all they all do great and you know,
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: we we're happy to be in aligned with Puff and
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: his team and K so it's great.
- 1:01:12Speaker 7: They all do a great job on Batties.
- 1:01:15Speaker 5: I mean, I would love for Erica.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Hey, that's a great I would ericuld be great on
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: Beatty great.
- 1:01:21Speaker 6: I mean, but yeah, you heard y'all talking before, uh
- 1:01:24Speaker 6: when y'all saying y'all start a new show called one Monkey,
- 1:01:26Speaker 6: don't stop, no show starring.
- 1:01:28Speaker 5: Her and have not not doing no, that's not true.
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: But I would love for Erica manner to come to Batties.
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: I think that would be amazing. I think this would
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: have been a great season for her to do it too,
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: because we just did the Batties East. But hey, next
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: season is right around the corner.
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: Yeah, we love, we love.
- 1:01:45Speaker 7: We had a great cast, soh we mentioned Saphire, she
- 1:01:48Speaker 7: came on there too.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: We had a great cast. But Erica would be great.
- 1:01:53Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of people out there that
- 1:01:55Speaker 7: would be great on Zeus.
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: Let me Plumber doesn't care about black women.
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: I love.
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: You, know what I mean social media, don't let me
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: know you've been going to manifest this is what it's crazy.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: Listen. I will say this. I love all of our talent.
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: I know there's been you know, folks that have worked
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: with us that you know, there's been some challenging times.
- 1:02:27Speaker 7: But I love whoever you are out there.
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: I just know if we've ever had any you know, hardships,
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: I love you.
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: I appreciate everything that you've done. I appreciate everybody that's
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: you know, contributed to.
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: The growth and success of Zeus. I love you.
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: If I don't mention you all the time, I'm sorry,
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: you know for folks that may you know, be mad
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: at me at this moment.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: I love you. I'm sorry I ever heard you, you know,
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: or did anything that you know. I love you.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Even got canceled yet and you apologize. You're getting ahead
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: of them.
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: You just called me, and.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: You're trying the story produce me.
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: I'm just walking through it.
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: Let me listen to Let everybody now, I love everybody.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: I love everybody.
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: I love everybody.
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: Appreciate you for coming.
- 1:03:11Speaker 6: I love you. DJ and Man it's the breakfast Club, asshole,