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44. Fighting Disney's Holiday Crowds · Mom Street USA

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  Welcome everybody to Mom St. USA.
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  My name is Kate AKA the Dizzy Cicerone and with me as always,
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  is my beautiful Co host Jackie AKA which is Mama.
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  And tonight we're digging into a topic that I think is so timely
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  because we're talking about fighting the holiday crowds.
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  It's already pretty much started with with Halloween time and
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  spooky season rolling and the crowds are are here and there's
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  a lot of them and it's this is that time of year when it just
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  escalates and gets to Thanksgiving and then we get
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  Christmas and also New Year's after that.
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  So the crowds get a little bit intense.
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  So that's what we're talking about tonight.
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  Jackie, how are you doing this evening?
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  I'm good. I'm excited too, because I feel
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  like I'm gonna take some of these.
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  Tips and tricks that we came up with and used them on my next
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  trip because I'm gonna be there really close to Thanksgiving
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  time. So I have a feeling that the
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  crowds when we're there are gonna be a little crazy.
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  And that's okay. It is what it is.
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  We kind of knew that when we booked our trip.
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  Like, well, this is gonna be interesting.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking forward to
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  taking some of our own advice and utilizing here in a couple
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  weeks when we go. You are a brave girl.
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  I am, I am. I'm traveling in the holidays
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  time, but not that close to the holidays so.
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  Yeah. You know, when kids have school
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  and you try your best to work around their schedule and my
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  husband's work schedule, you know, it is what it is.
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  So yeah, sometimes you you have to go during the holidays and
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  that's why they are so crowded. It's not only because it's the
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  the holidays themselves, but it is also, you know, kids out of
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  school and all those kinds of things.
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  So recognizing that some people can't choose to go other times
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  of the year, that's what we're talking about tonight to help
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  you, how do you get the most out of your Disney vacation?
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  How do you, if you're feeling overwhelmed by the crowds, what
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  do you do? What are some of the strategies
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  you can use if you're if you just have to go during that
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  really, really busy time? So that's what tonight is about.
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  Yeah, and it's funny, I was thinking as we were prepping for
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  this episode, I was like, OK, counting back, I have been to
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  Disney during President's Day weekend.
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  I've been to Disney during Easter weekend several times.
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  I've been to Disney during 4th of July a couple times.
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  I've been over Labor Day and now we're.
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  I'm just working my way through the calendar.
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  Goodness girl, so you? Know we'll we'll see how this
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  one compares. Yeah.
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  And I'm getting some comments too.
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  Like it feels like it never quite calmed down after the
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  major shutdown and it it just kind of has just keeps going.
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  And I think that is true. We used to see like slow season
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  versus like really busy season and now it's just like busy
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  season and like busier season and every once in a while
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  there'll be a random slow day. I feel like it's what it is.
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  And it's it's a day like it's a day.
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  It's not a couple weeks, it's it's a day.
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  That you get like, oh, these crowds seem pretty good today
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  and then the next day it's like super crazy again.
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  It's like, well, that was nice. All lasted.
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  Yeah, you just, it sounds like a bonus when all of a sudden
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  there's light crowds and you're like, hey, this is great, but
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  don't depend on it. But Speaking of which, so let's
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  jump in here. Should we do?
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  Before you go, let's talk about some things you can do as you're
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  preparing for this vacation. Jackie, do you want to talk
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  about the first first one? There, yeah.
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  So this is something that I used to do.
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  Like every single trip that I went, I kind of just have a IT
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  ingrained in my brain now and I like don't even look it up most
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  of the time anymore. But that is looking at Park
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  crowd calendars. And now The thing is, these can
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  be very hit or miss. So you definitely want to look
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  at a couple different ones to kind of get an idea of what your
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  week is going to look like. But it's one of those things
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  where you know, if you're going the week of Thanksgiving, you're
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  going the week of Christmas. To New Year's.
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  You're going any of those other holidays that I mentioned just a
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  little bit ago, you're going to be looking at the top level of
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  those crowds. But it can be helpful if you can
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  stagger your trip kind of one way or the other, and maybe not
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  go directly over the entire week where it's going to be crazy
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  busy. That may give you a better idea,
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  but there are tons of crowd calendars out there.
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  I know Touring Plans has one. I'm sure Disney Food Blog has
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  one, you know, all those ones that we've talked about that
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  we've used for different things on our show previously.
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  But it gives you an idea. And typically they do like a
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  green, yellow, red type of situation where they'll give you
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  an idea of what days are what or what weeks are what.
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  So just doing some Googling and looking up those Crowd calendars
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  can at least give you an overview of if there's any days
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  that are supposed to be really, really bad that you weren't
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  expecting to be that bad. Yeah, And I'm getting a couple
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  comments about how they go during Christmas week every
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  year. And it's still, it's super
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  slammed. And Taylor says this year,
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  spring and summer holiday crowds at Walt Disney World have been a
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  ghost town. So it like it.
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  Like we said, it really depends on when you're going.
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  But I really feel like consistently Halloween,
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  Thanksgiving and Christmas. I don't ever see those being
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  like crowds. Never.
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  No, I agree. We'll always be busy.
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  Yeah, well, it's something that you have to consider is if you
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  want to see those decorations, if you want to see your
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  Halloween decorations, you want to see those Christmas
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  decorations. Going earlier in those seasons
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  is going to give you at least slightly less crazy crowds.
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  So doing Halloween in September, doing Christmas.
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  You know early in November, but you you you have to be careful
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  with November depending on how much you want to see because not
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  everything is typically done in November.
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  So you just kind of got to gauge what's important to you.
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  Do you just want to see Magic Kingdom or do you want to see
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  all the resorts in the gingerbread house and all of
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  that kind of stuff, You know, so you have to kind of gauge with
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  that. But trying not your best not to
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  go during those school break weeks is going to give you less
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  crowds if you're able to fluctuate your your schedule
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  that way. Absolutely.
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  And yeah, that's something that I would always say is consider
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  going early, earlier in November, but not so early like
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  this for the For example, this year Disney World Christmas
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  starts in November 11th, except for Epcot Festival.
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  The holidays doesn't start until November 24th.
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  So like you could get some of Christmas, but you won't get
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  Epcot Festival. The holidays and Disneyland's
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  Christmas starts November 10th. They're already put snow on
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  their castle. It's it's October 19th and they
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  put snow on the castle. So they're they're already
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  starting prepping for that. But it's I I usually go and you
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  can also do hangover. Christmas is what I like to call
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  it at the Disney World, which is after New Year's.
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  They still leave the decorations up and they start taking them
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  down about two weeks after, you know, January 1st, like mid
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  January. So they still play the Christmas
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  music and everything after new after New Year's for the first
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  week of January and a few days after that.
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  And then you start seeing them take down stuff every day.
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  So you can always go in the Christmas, Christmas hangover
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  period as well. Just don't go like New Year's
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  itself, because that's still pretty busy.
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  But. Give it to like the 3rd or 4th
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  at least before before arriving, but I do remember I think Magic
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  Kingdom left their tree up like an absurdly long time.
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  Past year, it was like almost Valentine's Day.
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  Oh God, I'd say like it was really long.
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  Like, I remember watching our friend Kirk, walrus, carp and
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  lament Magic fans and trash cans doing their lives in the parks
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  and being like and the trees still here.
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  It's like by that time you're over it, like you want it to be
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  done. Like we're ready to move on,
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  give us back the normal music and the normal decor and all
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  that. But they're like, Nope, this is
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  still up. Yeah, Stars to Bright here says
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  last year the decor was Halloween on October 25th, on
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  Christmas, October 26th as far as the merch.
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  So, like, it's true. Magic Kingdom does like a a
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  changeover, like overnight. Like, suddenly it's just
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  Christmas. Disneyland does a little bit
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  more of a staggered, like, you don't see it necessarily
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  instantly switch, but a lot of things do happen that day after
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  Halloween, and suddenly they're like, here it is, you know, so.
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  Well, in this year, the last there is a Halloween party on
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  November 1st. I think that's the last
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  Halloween party that they're doing is on November 1st, so you
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  won't see. They may not switch it until the
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  2nd or the 3rd depending. I don't know, looking at a
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  calendar to see like what day of the week or whatever.
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  But the November 1st is the last Halloween party.
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  So don't expect to see Christmas on November 1st if you're going
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  to the parks this year, because it will still be Halloween for
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  that day for sure. That's a good tip.
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  Yeah, good to know. Yeah.
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  In terms of also planning before you go, I would say because
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  knowing that there's going to be extra crowds.
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  If you really like, you know you want to do kind of all the
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  things you always do or like you really want to see everything
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  you know. Consider adding an extra day or
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  two just to account for the time that you're going to lose
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  waiting in line for stuff, because you will.
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  And it won't just be like attraction lines, it will be
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  bathroom lines, vendor lines, food lines, merch, shopping
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  lines. There's just extra lines for
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  everything during this time, so go into it knowing that and
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  maybe account for an extra day or two so that you don't.
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  You're the time you lose waiting in line.
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  You can make up with another day if that makes sense.
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  Yeah, absolutely. And the other thing that's
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  helpful with that is you can be a little more strategic about
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  some of the reservations maybe that you make.
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  So thinking about like Advanced Dining Reservations, if you're
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  planning on making those, really think about what time of day
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  you're going to want to utilize those.
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  I was going to talk about this later, but I feel like it's a
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  little more pressing to talk about it now.
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  But thinking about those time frames, we've always encouraged
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  and talked about eating kind of at off times or not peak hours.
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  That's especially helpful during this time, because the
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  restaurants won't be quite as crazy.
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  They're still gonna be full, they're still gonna be people
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  everywhere. But you won't maybe have quite
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  as many people trying to eat at quick service restaurants and
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  things like that, if that's the route that you're going.
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  But with Adrs too. Also piggybacking that off of
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  like, okay, I know by this time of day my travel party is gonna
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  be. Done.
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  And they're going to need, you know, we don't want to go all
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  the way back to the resort just because of the crowds and
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  because of it being so crazy and lines everywhere, but we're
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  going to need a break. OK, so maybe you schedule a 3:00
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  ADR? So that way you can go sit down.
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  Everyone has a seat, everyone has space to sit down.
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  It's inside, yes. Or the heat if it's cold,
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  depending on exactly what the weather does.
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  Yes, but planning those accordingly.
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  Now the trick is gonna be. Getting the ADR that you want at
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  the time that you want, which is always a hassle no matter what.
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  We talked about this on our last episode with character dining.
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  It can be really hard to get character dining or certain AD
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  Rs that you want. Especially when some of these
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  places do special Christmas things, you know, or they do
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  special events, or they have special outfits for the
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  characters, whatever it may be. You really have to work hard at
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  those Advanced Dining reservations.
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  So one of the websites that I use is Mouse Dining and I have
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  alerts set up through them that will help.
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  If there's something that I'm that I haven't been able to book
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  or haven't been able to do or haven't been able to get or it's
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  not the time that I want or the the party size that I want, So I
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  sign up there, you get I think, 6 alerts for free on Mouse
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  Dining. So it's not even a paid
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  subscription that you have to use, which is really helpful
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  with that. But I think there's a couple
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  other ones that you've used before, Kate, right?
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  Yeah. And I want to mention some
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  people are asking, so ADR means advanced dining reservation.
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  So it's just Disney speak, that's all.
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  So making a dining reservation in advance is an ADR, if you
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  hear us refer to that. But the the one that I actually
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  have used a lot in this past year, and I am, I'm Full
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  disclosure, I am an affiliate with them, but I actually really
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  recommend them because I I love it is it's called Unlocked Magic
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  Dining Reservation Finder. And it's also like there's a
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  whole unlocked magic like community of planning stuff.
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  But specifically the Dining Reservation Finder.
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  I know it's 599 a month, so you could just get it for just, you
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  know, a month or two before your trip or whatever and and just
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  get that and you know, that's enough.
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  But it not only does it e-mail you when there's a reservation,
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  it actually texts you. And so that I think is so handy
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  because then you know instantly there's one.
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  Because if we've told you before, as soon as that dining
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  opens up for something, you have to be on it like very quickly
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  because they go like that. So having it be able to text you
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  is really helpful. And also you can have unlimited
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  ones. So I've set a reminder like I
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  was trying to get one for something and I I set one for
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  like every single hour of the day for like 4 days of my trip
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  because I just really wanted that reservation and I
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  definitely got it. It took me a couple of days and
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  then it pinged and I got my text and I did it.
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  So that's called Unlocked Magic and I do have a link for that in
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  my bio and we'll maybe put it in the show notes as well for you
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  guys if you're interested in that, because that one is
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  extremely helpful. So I think I'm gonna have to
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  check that one out because I have struck out on my ones that
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  I've been using. I think I need double.
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  I need to keep my yes, keep my ones I already have and add some
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  more because I literally this past week.
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  So I have one set up for Topolinos and one set up for
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  Ohana. And literally this week I was, I
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  think, I don't remember. I think I was watching your live
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  and the 11 for Ohana came through and I like I was not
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  ready and I missed it and I was like no, oh that's so
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  frustrating. I know and I was like that's the
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  second time for this trip that I've missed one.
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  So I may need to. I may need to add some more,
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  some more alerts, yeah, Katie O says.
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  She loves those pinks. They're so exciting.
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  I agree. Like, you're like, oh, it's
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  open. It's open.
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  It's like Go. I was not happening.
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  I was. I was not ready.
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  I was I I let my guard down. I wasn't expecting it.
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  I've I've, I've made a dining reservation like on a ride
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  before because it pinged me in the middle of a ride.
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  I was like, but you know I go on these rides all the time.
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  So I don't recommend that. If it's like your only time to
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  go on a ride. I just, you know, for me it was
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  not a big deal and I made sure my screen was low and stuff so I
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  wasn't bothering anybody. It was.
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  Just like go, go, go and well, the nice thing is with those
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  like you, it's really only like two or three pushes of a button.
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  And it does it for you because it already has it linked and
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  ready to go. Yeah, it pulls it up and it will
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  ask you to sign in to your Disney account, and then it will
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  pull up the reservation if it's there.
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  Or it will come up with a little Lady in the Tramp and
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  something's gone wrong. Or whatever it says and you're
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  like, oh, sad. It means it's not available
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  anymore. I do suggest if you have the
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  ability to use like Face ID or something, that you have your
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  Disney account set up for that because it will.
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  It will take you directly to the Disney website and ask you to
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  log in so the quicker you can log in, whether it's Face ID or
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  whatever. I don't know what Android has
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  its equivalent of that, but I don't know.
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  Whatever that is, make sure that you have it set up, because that
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  will save you the time typing. Don't even know.
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  I don't know if you are an Android user let us know.
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  But having to like sit and type in fingerprint, password, you
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  will lose. You will lose it.
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  It will not be available anymore.
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  Maybe they have fingerprint, That's what he said.
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  Fingerprint. OK, so whatever, that may be the
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  quickest way possible that you can do it.
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  Make sure that you're ready to go with that, OK?
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  Everybody's saying bio, biometrics, fingerprints, that's
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  what they got. Perfect.
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  I yes, they do open. The reservations do open up 60
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  days before your dining reservation, so 60 days plus the
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  the length of your vacation for for Disney World and Disneyland
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  if you're staying at a resort, but otherwise just 60 days from
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  from the time. So now Disneyland is a little
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  bit trickier because the time that it opens up, I've seen them
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  all over the place. It's not like Disney World is
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  6:00 AM Eastern Time on the dot, SO3 P 3:00 AM Pacific Time, 6 P
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  6:00 AM Eastern Time for the 60 days previous for Disney World.
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  But for Disneyland, it is. I've seen it at 6:00 AM.
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  I've seen it 3:00 AM. I've seen it at midnight.
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  It's like it. You just don't know.
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  So I stayed up all night one time trying to get a blue Bayou
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  reservation. It didn't happen.
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  I was so mad. This like, didn't open them up.
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  And I was like, great. So that's so sad.
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  It's so sad. When that happens, you stay up
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  late or get up early and you're just like, yeah, well, I was
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  very tired the next day. It's one thing if you got all
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  your reservations and it was worth it.
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  And it was like, this is not worth it, right.
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  Anyway, so that's that. Those are some suggestions for
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  before you go of just kind of prepping for the holiday crowds
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  some. I do have a couple of tips for
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  traveling to Disney. I do so much flying.
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  Like, I, my friend Kirk asked me this week.
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  He's like, how do you do this all the time?
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  Because I do it once a month. I fly to Disney.
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  And he's like, he was exhausted because it's they had the time
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  change, you know? And I was like, honestly, I'm
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  just so used to it. I'm just like, I just work on
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  the plane and I like know what I I have my routines and the
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  things I put in my pouch and like I'm just so used to it.
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  But I will say travelling during the holidays gets a little
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  trickier, not only because everybody else is travelling,
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  but also because of the weather. The weather can get really bad
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  this time of year and there's a lot of snow in the middle of the
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  country and what not depending on where you're flying or the
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  eastern seaboard. So I would just say leave a lot
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  of extra time for travel, especially with security lines
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  can get extremely long. Don't you know like need maybe
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  an extra hour for security? You know, like, especially if
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  you've got Littles and they have needs and you've got strollers
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  and car seats and extra bags and everything, just leave yourself
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  a lot of times so that you're not stressed and worried about
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  all those things. Same with leave some extra time
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  in case your flight is delayed on either side of your vacation.
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  So as you're like, booking your vacation, recognize that you
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  don't want to plan something that's like the one thing your
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  kids want to do. Don't plan it for, like, the
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  morning of the next stuff for your first day.
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  Nope, because you might not get there if there's a delay with
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  your flight and then everybody's heartbroken and it's not like
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  it's an easy thing to rebook. So just, you know, just just
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  make a little buffer time there. And the same thing on the other
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  side of your trip, coming back home knowing that it's possible
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  your flight might get delayed or cancelled or something.
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  So, you know, try to leave sometime so that you don't have
• 19:01
  to immediately go back to work or school or whatever it is.
• 19:05
  That's my best advice for that. Just leave a little time for the
• 19:08
  holidays. Yeah, I agree.
• 19:10
  I mean, I do that and we drive, yeah.
• 19:13
  I feel like I never want to, yeah, run off to something right
• 19:16
  when we get there and I don't wanna leave anything else till
• 19:19
  the last minute and I don't wanna have to be rushing off to
• 19:21
  something when we come home. So I agree.
• 19:24
  Even this trip that we planned, we have a whole buffer day
• 19:28
  between the day that we leave and the day that like my husband
• 19:31
  has to be at a thing for work. So we have a whole buffer day in
• 19:34
  between 1:00 because if we do get home on time, we're going to
• 19:37
  need to sleep and like readjust back to life in Ohio.
• 19:41
  But two, because even if we're driving, travel can be crazy.
• 19:46
  Like you said, we have to drive through mountains.
• 19:48
  There's snow in mountains, especially in November, December
• 19:51
  so. Having that the ability to know
• 19:54
  like, OK, we can stop and we're going to be fine on time, you
• 19:58
  know, if we need to stop somewhere overnight, let's stop
• 20:00
  somewhere overnight so we're so we're safe.
• 20:02
  Right. No, I agree.
• 20:04
  And I I do have a a comment too. It says, I always just do a
• 20:07
  hotel day during flying days and I think that's wise so that
• 20:11
  you're not immediately jumping into the parks and and you
• 20:14
  bought a ticket for the parks and you know, making making sure
• 20:18
  that you have that buffer time just for your own Peace of Mind.
• 20:23
  And also I will say this might be a little bit more applicable
• 20:26
  to Disneyland than Disney World depending on your personal
• 20:29
  transportation from the airport. But this was something, I take a
• 20:34
  lot of Lyft rides all the time. Now.
• 20:37
  I've met a lot of really fun Lyft drivers.
• 20:40
  I had a great one one time who was like talking about, he went
• 20:43
  to all these BBQ places all across the US and how he was
• 20:45
  writing a book about BBQ places and he told me all about it.
• 20:50
  It's nice you meet a lot of people when you do Lyft.
• 20:52
  A lot. So anyway, he was really nice.
• 20:55
  And he told me, that particular person told me that in Anaheim a
• 21:00
  lot of people will miss their flights out in the mornings
• 21:03
  because it's very hard to get rides in the morning back to the
• 21:06
  airport because some Lyft drivers just don't want to take
• 21:08
  it. So it'll just like somebody will
• 21:10
  get booked and they'll cancel and somebody will get booked and
• 21:12
  to get to cancel because Lyft automatically assigns it to a
• 21:14
  driver and if they don't want to do it, then they just kind of
• 21:16
  like say Nope, I'm not going to do that and you'll just get,
• 21:20
  you'll cycle through drivers to the point where you will be
• 21:22
  late. So the best thing you can do is
• 21:25
  to pre book your ride and pay for it in advance.
• 21:28
  You actually pay a better price usually anyway.
• 21:30
  Sometimes not, but usually pay a pretty low price.
• 21:33
  For that, have it booked in advance so you know that you're
• 21:36
  going to get it at least back to the airport so you won't be late
• 21:40
  for your flight. And I think this is especially
• 21:42
  true during the busy Christmas season.
• 21:46
  Make sure that you are pre booking your Lyft or Uber ride.
• 21:51
  Yeah, that's super smart. I've got a really good comment
• 21:53
  from Tiffany over here that mentioned always packing.
• 21:56
  Like if we don't get home right away, we have what we need.
• 21:59
  She mentioned she has a kiddo that needs some medicine that
• 22:02
  they want to make sure they have.
• 22:03
  So if your flight gets canceled, you may not have access to your
• 22:07
  luggage. So make sure that your carry on
• 22:10
  has your necessities in it. If it's medication, if it's you
• 22:14
  need a change of clothes. If it's formula and diapers for
• 22:17
  your kiddo or whatever it may be.
• 22:19
  Making sure that you have that packed in your bag especially.
• 22:23
  That's good for all times, but especially for these crazy
• 22:25
  holiday times. Yeah, that happens sometimes.
• 22:29
  When I did a red eye and I didn't get make my connection
• 22:32
  because of them, like their flight was delayed, I didn't
• 22:35
  make my connection and I had to stay overnight in a hotel and I
• 22:38
  didn't have my checked bag. I only had my carry on and I was
• 22:42
  so glad that that point I had put my pajamas and my toothbrush
• 22:46
  and stuff in my carry on. So yeah, very important with
• 22:51
  especially during the holidays just in case something happens.
• 22:54
  And we've all seen those horror stories of like people stuck at
• 22:56
  airports for hours and hours. Like just have some things for
• 23:01
  your family and for yourself that you need your necessities.
• 23:04
  I think is wise, especially during the holiday season.
• 23:07
  Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Tran says.
• 23:10
  And your laptop, because, oops, my flight is canceled.
• 23:12
  Need to work from home? Yes.
• 23:16
  Yes, whatever you may need. If that flight gets canceled, or
• 23:19
  you miss your connection or whatever it is, just make sure
• 23:21
  you've got it with you. Yes, so wise.
• 23:25
  So do you have any other travelling to Disney or you?
• 23:27
  Don't think ready are we? Are we ready to do at the parks?
• 23:30
  Let's do it. This is, this is the getting
• 23:32
  down into the crowds here. All right, everybody breathe.
• 23:36
  There's a lot of people now. Breathe through it.
• 23:39
  Practice your your meditation, your calming techniques.
• 23:42
  Here. OK, so.
• 23:45
  We've got hopefully some good advice here.
• 23:47
  A lot of the stuff you actually probably will hear have heard us
• 23:49
  talk about before. My biggest suggestion is is use
• 23:53
  utilizing rope drop and early entry.
• 23:56
  So getting there early because there are a lot of people that
• 23:59
  when they run on vacation time they don't want to get up early.
• 24:03
  So if you can get there at rope drop, be ready to go tackle your
• 24:07
  most important rides first thing in the morning.
• 24:10
  The crowds are going to be lower than they will be in the middle
• 24:13
  of the afternoon just for that, just because of that.
• 24:16
  So you're paying attention to those park hours, making sure
• 24:20
  you know when the park is open and double checking it the night
• 24:24
  before. We've talked about this
• 24:25
  previously where sometimes the hours will change, especially
• 24:28
  during really crowded times, they will extend those hours for
• 24:32
  the parks. I've seen it happen.
• 24:35
  I've been at Trips. We've been on trips during the
• 24:38
  4th of July where we were literally at Magic Kingdom and
• 24:42
  while we were there we got a notification that they had
• 24:44
  extended the hours that night because it was just so busy.
• 24:47
  So like I've literally been in the parks when it's happened, so
• 24:50
  just keep an eye out on that and just double check it and make
• 24:53
  sure check the signage in the park.
• 24:55
  A lot of the times they have the hours listed where they've got
• 24:57
  the wait times listed. Just take a glance and just
• 25:00
  double check yourself with that. And also paying attention to
• 25:03
  party days because that can heavily influence crowds.
• 25:07
  If it's a party day, if it's a non party day at Magic Kingdom,
• 25:11
  and then now this year also at Hollywood Studios, paying
• 25:15
  attention to when those Jollywood nights are because
• 25:17
  that could adjust crowds one way or the other depending that one.
• 25:22
  I don't anticipate it swaying crowds quite as much because
• 25:25
  it's only an hour earlier closure.
• 25:28
  So typically Hollywood Studios closes at 9:00, but for those
• 25:32
  Jollywood nights, it's closing. It's closing at 8:00.
• 25:35
  So not a huge difference, but we'll see what that does with
• 25:38
  the crowds whenever we kind of get to that point.
• 25:41
  But paying attention to those dates and planning accordingly
• 25:45
  based on what kind of tickets you have and if you're going to
• 25:47
  a party, you're not in those types of things.
• 25:49
  Yeah, no 100% agree. I'm getting a whole bunch of
• 25:52
  comments here about yes, rope drop is the way to go and how
• 25:55
  people ride so many rides during then.
• 25:57
  And also one that says my sister missed her 30 minute magic hour
• 26:01
  due to the line at the gate and got it normal opening.
• 26:03
  And that is true. You have to leave extra early,
• 26:06
  earlier than you think you have to leave to get those extra,
• 26:10
  that extra magic time. So it's a you really.
• 26:14
  It's like way earlier than you think it should be.
• 26:17
  I feel like it's like an hour and a half was what I left.
• 26:20
  Yeah. And it depends on and and it's
• 26:23
  somewhat depends on what mode of transport you take getting to
• 26:26
  the parks. But sometimes it doesn't.
• 26:29
  Like obviously the monorail to Magic Kingdom is not going to be
• 26:32
  too crazy, but even then, those monorails will fill up at the
• 26:36
  Ticket and Transportation Center.
• 26:37
  They'll fill up to the and then there won't be any room for you
• 26:40
  to get on if you're at one of those resorts too.
• 26:42
  So keep that in mind because they a lot of the times during
• 26:45
  really busy seasons, they utilize both tracks, whether it
• 26:48
  be just the Magic Kingdom loop or the resort loop.
• 26:51
  So just keep that in mind too. You want to make sure you leave
• 26:54
  yourself time in case you have to wait a couple monorails.
• 26:57
  Same with the sky liner you're going to when you hop off that
• 26:59
  hub where you, you know, connect to readjust which line you're
• 27:03
  going to. Those lines are going to be
• 27:05
  extra long, So just leaving yourself that extra time, we
• 27:09
  typically say leave 45 to an hour before.
• 27:11
  So I'd say at least probably an hour and a half is going to be
• 27:13
  in your best bet. Yes, 100% and streaming, Disney
• 27:17
  Darling says. I love with large crowds leaving
• 27:19
  midday and coming back later at night if I have a longer stay.
• 27:22
  And I yeah, that's a great strategy.
• 27:24
  We, we say always take a break in the afternoons if you can
• 27:28
  with Littles, just because it's it's a lot.
• 27:30
  They're long, long days in the park.
• 27:32
  So also considering doing a holiday party for one of your
• 27:36
  days instead of a ticket a day. And we have done this in the
• 27:38
  past with Mickey's Not so scary. It can be really helpful to
• 27:43
  utilize just your party ticket for that day.
• 27:46
  And not try to go in in the morning if that's a well needed
• 27:50
  break that your group might need.
• 27:52
  I will also say that we have seen historically in the past
• 27:56
  that if you're someone who's got a hopper and you're not going to
• 27:59
  a party. Those party mornings at like
• 28:01
  Magic Kingdom tend to be slower crowds.
• 28:05
  So if you're able to hop, you're able to start at Magic Kingdom,
• 28:07
  they usually have at a really early opening that day.
• 28:09
  So early entry is even better when if you can get there that
• 28:13
  early and then hop to a different park or maybe just
• 28:15
  that's a day that you know the afternoon and evening you're
• 28:18
  just going to take a break because you've got extra days
• 28:21
  planned or whatever it may be. But, but kind of playing around
• 28:25
  those hot, those holiday parties like we talked about can be
• 28:28
  really, really helpful. Yeah, I agree.
• 28:31
  And yeah, dreaming Disney dining says spend a day shopping or
• 28:35
  checking out resorts during party ticket days.
• 28:37
  That's also a really great option as well.
• 28:39
  I agree. I'd also say planning when
• 28:43
  you're planning your day, I would really focus on maybe
• 28:47
  working opposite what the crowds are doing.
• 28:49
  And we we talked about this a little bit in terms of like your
• 28:51
  dining reservations, you know, you know, tour early, doing an
• 28:55
  early lunch break, like as soon as those restaurants open and
• 28:58
  you know around 11:00-ish or 10:30 depending on what it is.
• 29:02
  And then doing early dinner as well, you know, like around
• 29:06
  5:00-ish. And then and you can also then
• 29:10
  if you don't want to see the night time shows, you've already
• 29:12
  seen the night time show at that place, then you could do rides
• 29:15
  during those night time shows. So the crowds are all in the hub
• 29:19
  watching fireworks and you're riding all the rides because the
• 29:22
  lines are short, you know, So going where the people aren't is
• 29:25
  a great strategy. Be doing, doing, being weird, Be
• 29:30
  weird and do what people aren't doing.
• 29:32
  Do the unpopular things and that will help you a whole lot.
• 29:37
  Yes. And also using those park
• 29:39
  hoppers. If you're someone who you know,
• 29:41
  you're going to get park hoppers for your trip and you want to be
• 29:44
  able to have the ability to be flexible and move, You know if
• 29:48
  you get to a park in the morning and it's a couple hours in and
• 29:52
  you're like, this is not the vibe, then you check your app,
• 29:56
  you utilize your park hopper, you go to a different park where
• 29:59
  maybe you see. On your your app that the wait
• 30:02
  times are less or you know like hey we just want to go eat at
• 30:06
  World Showcase. OK that's a little bit more
• 30:08
  manageable than like waiting and rides.
• 30:10
  You know things like that that you can you can manipulate and
• 30:13
  use that park hopper and just have that flexible plan.
• 30:16
  You're going to have to know where you want to start each
• 30:18
  day, to know what time you need to get up and what time you need
• 30:21
  to leave and all those types of things, but utilizing those park
• 30:25
  hoppers, especially when it. Comes to those park hoppers are
• 30:30
  are going to be opened up all day in January.
• 30:33
  That doesn't help you necessarily for this current
• 30:36
  holiday season coming up, but future holidays starting in
• 30:39
  2024, you'll have the ability to hop earlier in the day and
• 30:44
  definitely use those things to your advantage to help you kind
• 30:47
  of maneuver around the crowds. Yeah, And I'm getting a
• 30:51
  question, is it worth park hopping at Walt Disney World
• 30:54
  since parks are more spread out, travel time, shuttles, those
• 30:57
  things. And I it really depends on your
• 31:00
  budget and your family and how you like to tour.
• 31:04
  So like when I had really little kids, we just did one park per
• 31:08
  day and that was plenty. Like we just did like Magic
• 31:11
  Kingdom this day, Epcot on this day as my kids got older, like
• 31:16
  they want to do like the big rides over here and then we want
• 31:19
  to go and do the big rides over in this other park.
• 31:21
  And so it really depends on your family mix and also your budget
• 31:24
  because park hoppers are a lot more expensive than single day
• 31:27
  tickets. So I would say it can be worth
• 31:30
  it If you have limited time and you have the budget for it, I
• 31:34
  would say park hopping is is worth it, but I don't think you
• 31:37
  need to at Walt Disney World. I definitely think it's worth it
• 31:40
  at Disneyland because it's so easy to just walk across the
• 31:43
  Plaza to the other park and you can also take advantage of both
• 31:46
  nighttime shows. That way you can get from one to
• 31:48
  the other. So yeah, that's my take on it.
• 31:51
  I don't know if Jackie, if you want anything to add.
• 31:52
  Yeah, I agree. Even with my kids are five and
• 31:55
  seven, we still don't park hop usually.
• 31:57
  We usually do one park per day. But I will caution you during
• 32:02
  holiday times and that's specifically what we're talking
• 32:05
  about this evening. But during those holiday times,
• 32:07
  if you don't have more than one day at like Magic Kingdom.
• 32:12
  That's going to be really, really tough.
• 32:14
  So if you're doing the one day or one park tickets, you're
• 32:17
  going to want to make sure you you plan for a second day in
• 32:20
  Magic Kingdom. If you aren't able to schedule
• 32:24
  wise make that work, then I would maybe suggest doing the
• 32:26
  park hopper for that purpose just to make sure that you're
• 32:29
  able to get to some of those things.
• 32:31
  Because the other thing you have to consider is, especially at
• 32:34
  Magic Kingdom, the night time show is not every night because
• 32:39
  of those party nights. So if your Magic Kingdom day has
• 32:42
  to be on a party day or you're doing part of that, you're going
• 32:45
  to miss out on happily ever after because they don't show it
• 32:48
  on those party nights. Hollywood studios, it does look
• 32:52
  like they are doing a fantasmic for the day guests.
• 32:55
  Still, despite Jollywood, it's just early at 7:15 I believe.
• 33:00
  Whenever I looked on the website, that's what it showed.
• 33:03
  So not quite as as big of a deal there with that nighttime show,
• 33:07
  but with Magic Kingdom, you really want to make sure you
• 33:09
  give yourself enough time because there's just so many
• 33:11
  different things to do between attractions and shows and
• 33:14
  parades and fireworks and characters and all of that.
• 33:18
  Yeah, for sure. I did have a question here, do
• 33:21
  you have to buy park hop separately?
• 33:23
  And park hopping tickets are like just a separate kind of
• 33:26
  ticket that you purchase. So it's an it's an upgraded
• 33:30
  ticket from one part, one park per day.
• 33:32
  So if you do a package or whether you buy them separately,
• 33:35
  it's like you can either buy one park per day or you can buy park
• 33:38
  hopping tickets. So it's the kind of ticket and
• 33:42
  lens giving us comments about how you're not supposed to
• 33:46
  literally Bunny hop across the way at Disneyland.
• 33:49
  Which is so funny because I actually put that in my book.
• 33:52
  That I read it is in your book, and I think about that every
• 33:55
  time someone goes to park hop is I think about your characters in
• 33:59
  your book literally hopping across the Plaza and then
• 34:02
  crashing and getting hurt before they make it to the other one.
• 34:06
  Don't give it all away, Jackie. That's all I said.
• 34:08
  I'm not. I'm not saying anything else.
• 34:10
  That one is in my Where the Fireflies Dance book that's
• 34:13
  about Disney history, live streamers at Disneyland.
• 34:16
  So thanks. I will also mention just quickly
• 34:19
  while we're talking about park hopping and park hoppers that if
• 34:23
  you start with a base ticket, you do have the ability to
• 34:26
  upgrade your park ticket to a park hopper.
• 34:29
  But do keep in mind that regardless of what day of your
• 34:31
  trip you're on, you will have to upgrade your entire ticket.
• 34:35
  So if you've got a four day ticket.
• 34:37
  And on day two, you decide you want to upgrade it to a park
• 34:40
  hopper. You're going to have to pay the
• 34:42
  difference of the full four days, so keep that in mind.
• 34:46
  That's the way that Disney does it when you go to upgrade, So
• 34:49
  keep that in mind with your budget if you're wanting to do
• 34:53
  that. And Ryan asked a good question
• 34:55
  over here. If I don't have a Park hoppers,
• 34:57
  can I come and go in the same park all day?
• 34:59
  And absolutely yes you can. You can come and go as much as
• 35:02
  you please. With park Hoppers you can do the
• 35:04
  same come and go And with with whichever park you're visiting
• 35:07
  or parks you're visiting as much as needed, you will don't don't
• 35:10
  need to worry about that. The only issue is like Christmas
• 35:14
  Day and New Year's Day, if you leave, there is a chance that
• 35:20
  they could reach capacity before you're you come back.
• 35:23
  So it wouldn't necessarily be a a ticket issue, but it could be
• 35:27
  a capacity issue. So keep that in mind.
• 35:30
  I know New Year's Eve pretty much every year Magic Kingdom
• 35:36
  hits capacity. So paying attention to what time
• 35:39
  you want to get back by is really, really important because
• 35:43
  just because you were already there during that day, if
• 35:45
  they're already at capacity, they're not going to let you in.
• 35:48
  Yeah, that's a very good tip. Yep.
• 35:51
  We talked about planning extra time to get everywhere again,
• 35:54
  same thing as you go in the parks.
• 35:55
  What would normally take you walking from Haunted Mansion to
• 35:59
  Space Mountain? You know, maybe 10 minutes is
• 36:02
  going to take you at least 15, Probably just navigating through
• 36:05
  the crowds, especially if you've got strollers.
• 36:07
  Finding stroller parking is going to be more of an extensive
• 36:11
  process. So you've just got to leave that
• 36:13
  extra wiggle room for everything that you need to get to, whether
• 36:16
  it's dining reservations, whether it's.
• 36:19
  Lightning lanes, whether it's just one attraction to the
• 36:22
  other, just keep in mind it's going to take you longer than
• 36:25
  normal to get there. I do have a question from Joanne
• 36:29
  who says what do they do special on Christmas Day at Magic
• 36:32
  Kingdom And I'm pretty sure they have a parade, right?
• 36:35
  So they will do the parade that is featured in the very Merry
• 36:40
  Christmas party. Like the 23rd, 24th, 25th,
• 36:45
  usually. That's typically historically
• 36:47
  what we've seen. They will not announce it.
• 36:49
  They will not publicize it. They'll just do it just like and
• 36:52
  here's the parade. Yeah, and it'll just replace the
• 36:55
  parade. So that's typically what people
• 36:58
  go for because that's something from the party, which is an
• 37:01
  extra ticketed event that people will like to go and see without
• 37:06
  having to pay to go to the party.
• 37:08
  So if you want to see the reindeer and the tinsel, the you
• 37:12
  know, toy soldiers and all of that stuff in the parade and
• 37:14
  that does happen outside of part the party hours on like I said,
• 37:19
  typically 23rd, 24th, 25th, ish. That's the only thing that I
• 37:24
  know. If I don't know for sure if they
• 37:26
  do that with the fireworks too, I want to say they do but
• 37:29
  someone. Say if someone in here knows for
• 37:31
  sure. Lemm.
• 37:32
  If you're still in here, you probably know better than we do.
• 37:35
  But I think that they do the fireworks as well for the
• 37:38
  Christmas. I've heard rumors that they're
• 37:41
  going to start making it snow on Main Street more this year for
• 37:44
  Walt Disney World like they do at Disneyland.
• 37:46
  Like Disneyland has a special like they do a little castle
• 37:50
  lighting ceremony like multiple times during the evening.
• 37:53
  And when they do that, it's just like a quick like 5 minute thing
• 37:56
  and then they it snows on Main Street and for a couple of
• 38:00
  minutes after that and so it's like super magical.
• 38:03
  So I'm hoping that they put it on USA and Disney World as well.
• 38:07
  Jackie, do you want to talk about managing your party's
• 38:09
  expectations a little bit? Yeah, I think this is super
• 38:12
  important because whether you're using Genie Plus or not,
• 38:15
  managing your party's expectations for these lines
• 38:18
  because you may see a little bit longer waits even if you're
• 38:22
  using Genie Plus. But I do recommend you use it,
• 38:24
  especially during these holiday times if you're able to budget
• 38:27
  for it. And I this is one time of year.
• 38:31
  Or I suggest it pretty much at all of the parks, no matter
• 38:34
  what. If you're going during those you
• 38:36
  know, you've looked at your crowd calendars and all of your
• 38:38
  days are in the red, they're going to be really, really busy.
• 38:40
  I would just suggest budgeting ahead for that Genie Plus or
• 38:44
  those individual lightning lanes, whatever it may be, to
• 38:46
  help shorten the lines, but also having a plan if you end up
• 38:49
  waiting in a line longer than expected, especially if it's
• 38:54
  around a meal time if it's. You have to make sure that you
• 38:58
  know before every line you stop at the restroom for your little
• 39:00
  kiddos to make sure that they go having a snack, having some an
• 39:04
  extra game or something that you can pull out.
• 39:06
  You know, as parents we keep those little things kind of
• 39:09
  hidden away and as like a secret backup, pull those out in line.
• 39:13
  You know all of those things that you can do to help make
• 39:17
  sure. And I will say managing that for
• 39:20
  your little ones, but also the big ones that you travel with.
• 39:24
  Some of them may also need an extra snack in your bag, just in
• 39:29
  case we don't need the hangry adults in line as well.
• 39:34
  I know we've all experienced that one way or another
• 39:37
  somewhere, whether it's our family or something we've
• 39:39
  witnessed. So just having those things in
• 39:42
  your bag so that way you're ready and not leaving them in
• 39:45
  the stroller because you may not have easy access to get in and
• 39:48
  out the majority of the time. One person could run to your
• 39:51
  stroller if you need to, but having those on hand is super
• 39:55
  important, and Tran has a good one.
• 39:57
  The dumb, dumb lollipops are a savior.
• 39:59
  That's a really good one, because they don't.
• 40:02
  They won't melt very like they're they're fairly good in
• 40:05
  the heat. So if you're there during 4th of
• 40:07
  July or whatever it may be, but yeah, having having a little
• 40:10
  snack or a sucker or a little a new little fidget toy or
• 40:14
  whatever it may be, just have something and hopefully maybe
• 40:18
  you won't need it. And then yeah, on the way home,
• 40:20
  look, we have this cool thing, you made it through your trip.
• 40:22
  You can play with it on the plane on the way home or in the
• 40:24
  car on the way home, but having that will be very beneficial.
• 40:29
  Yeah. And for older kids to making
• 40:31
  sure that you have enough fuel rods or power banks and stuff to
• 40:35
  make sure if you're in line for a really long time to charge
• 40:38
  those devices, whether you're playing something as a family,
• 40:41
  like heads up or they're on, you're on your individual
• 40:44
  devices or taking pictures or whatever, just you might be in
• 40:48
  line longer than you expect sometimes.
• 40:50
  So just having something to charge your devices in case
• 40:53
  something goes down, I think is always good while you're waiting
• 40:56
  in line. So exactly.
• 40:59
  And also kind of mapping out and knowing where maybe if you need
• 41:03
  to step away from the crowds to the best of your ability when
• 41:07
  it's super busy, kind of knowing those places that you can go
• 41:11
  where it's not going to be quite so busy.
• 41:13
  Kate, do you want to talk about some of those?
• 41:15
  A lot of these we've mentioned before, but.
• 41:17
  Yeah. So baby care centers are great
• 41:20
  for kids who are are melting down.
• 41:22
  We've talked about that before. There's some quiet spaces in
• 41:25
  there. It's also good for kids with
• 41:26
  special needs and things like that.
• 41:28
  It gets like sensory overload and Disney World's we've talked
• 41:32
  about. Tom Sawyer Island is a great one
• 41:34
  to get away from from at all. Essentially has some great views
• 41:37
  and quiet spaces there. Tomorrowland Terrace, The Muppet
• 41:41
  Courtyard area in Hollywood Studios, The Aquarium in the
• 41:44
  Seas Building in Epcot, The Walking Paths in Animal Kingdom,
• 41:50
  Behind Flame Tree BBQ. Also in Animal Kingdom.
• 41:53
  If you're in Disneyland, I would recommend you can't do it right
• 41:56
  now. Because it's under renovation,
• 41:59
  but behind Fowler's Harbor usually, and also behind Pooh's
• 42:04
  Corner, the Hungry Bear Cafe at the top level kind of in the
• 42:07
  back, although you do have the the train on one side in the
• 42:10
  end, the cannon from the Columbia on the other.
• 42:12
  So if they're noise issues, just know that that does happen
• 42:15
  there, But it's usually a nice place to get away from from
• 42:18
  people for a bit. Also, the Golden Horseshoe is a
• 42:22
  great one. It's a it's a quick service
• 42:24
  restaurant, but especially in the off hours it's a little
• 42:26
  quieter in there and upstairs is one of my favorite places to
• 42:29
  just kind of like escape. And then in the Corndog Castle
• 42:35
  in DCA is a great one as well. There's kind of a seating area
• 42:38
  back there in California Adventure.
• 42:40
  Then also Paradise Gardens is a great place to sit there and
• 42:44
  it's it's really nice. It's a kind of like sitting in a
• 42:46
  garden. Behind Flo's VA Cafe is also
• 42:50
  great and they can watch the cars go by, so that helps
• 42:52
  entertain Littles a little bit. And then the world of color
• 42:55
  viewing area during the daytime is often a place, not
• 42:59
  necessarily shady, but it is place where kids can run around
• 43:02
  and have spread out just a little bit.
• 43:05
  And then the trail behind Grizzly River Run is also a very
• 43:07
  quiet place that's really peaceful and one that I've kind
• 43:11
  of found recently that I like is the seating area next to Smoke
• 43:14
  Jumpers Grill. It's it's shady and it's usually
• 43:18
  there's as long as it's not super, super busy for eating.
• 43:22
  There's places to sit there and you can you can.
• 43:25
  Oh yeah. And it's true.
• 43:26
  The Muppet Courtyard right now is a disaster because it's being
• 43:28
  reimagined. So maybe not the Muppet
• 43:30
  Courtyard right now. Same same with Palace Harbor
• 43:33
  right now. So these are all, if they're not
• 43:36
  currently under construction, that is a good point.
• 43:38
  Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah.
• 43:40
  And we also have done full episodes on beating the crowds
• 43:43
  and we've done episodes on traveling with kiddos with
• 43:46
  special needs. So some of these areas we just
• 43:49
  rattled off, we've mentioned in those along with a lot of other
• 43:51
  tips. So if you fall in those
• 43:53
  categories of special needs or you like really need tips for
• 43:56
  getting away from those crowds, those episodes are good for you
• 43:59
  to go back and listen to. We're just kind of hitting some
• 44:01
  highlights here to kind of give you guys a a refresher for
• 44:05
  holiday season. Talking about the holidays, I
• 44:08
  feel like. So something we haven't talked
• 44:10
  about a lot on Mom Street is meeting Santa.
• 44:12
  And I feel like that's a big part of your Christmas
• 44:16
  experience of going for for many people.
• 44:19
  And so the times for meet and greets or Santa is usually
• 44:22
  listed in your My Disney Experience app or your
• 44:24
  Disneyland app depending on where you're going.
• 44:27
  In Disneyland you'll see Santa is in the Redwood Creek
• 44:30
  Challenge Trail in California Adventure or it Poos thoughtful
• 44:33
  spot in Critter Country. So it's the two places where
• 44:37
  Santa does meet and greets. Do you want to talk about Disney
• 44:40
  World's? Yeah.
• 44:41
  So in Disney World, if you're in Magic Kingdom, he meets in the
• 44:45
  gazebo behind Yield Christmas Shop.
• 44:48
  And again, check those hours because a lot of the times he's
• 44:52
  in and out depending. So you want to make sure that
• 44:55
  you look at those hours and he is available during the
• 44:57
  Christmas parties as well. If that's a time that you're
• 44:59
  going that you want to try to meet him, then at Epcot he meets
• 45:03
  in the Odyssey Pavilion and at Epcot they also have a lot of
• 45:07
  like Saint Nicholas type storytellers that are kind of
• 45:11
  around World Showcase as well. So depending on your preference
• 45:14
  with that in Animal Kingdom, you can find him on a one of the
• 45:18
  flotillas which are the little barges that kind of float around
• 45:22
  in the waters there at Animal Kingdom.
• 45:26
  At Santa, Yes, that's not a direct like face to face meet
• 45:30
  and greet there at Hollywood Studios he has a motorcade that
• 45:34
  comes down Hollywood Blvd. So again, one of those waving
• 45:37
  situations, not a direct meet and greet.
• 45:40
  And then at Typhoon Lagoon you can find Santa on a bike in
• 45:43
  beach attire riding around which is like.
• 45:46
  It's really fun. So much fun.
• 45:48
  So much fun. I love that they do that there.
• 45:52
  I also know that last year they did.
• 45:55
  Santa in Disney Springs where you didn't have to go into a
• 45:58
  park so this might be a good thing to do on a break day or an
• 46:01
  off day when you don't have a ticket into the parks.
• 46:03
  You're doing that we're yeah we're going to try and meet him
• 46:05
  at Disney Springs as long as there's a virtual queue and or
• 46:08
  the line is not like horrendous. If there's not a virtual queue,
• 46:11
  we are hoping to find him in Disney Springs on our trip so.
• 46:15
  Yeah. So they did have a virtual queue
• 46:16
  last year for and it the drops were at 9:00 AM, twelve PM, 3:00
• 46:21
  PM and 6:00 PM. So we'll see what they are for
• 46:24
  this year. I don't think they've announced
• 46:25
  it yet, but look for that. Look for a virtual queue option
• 46:30
  if you want to meet Santa at Disney Springs and that That's a
• 46:33
  great way to not have to wait in line while you eat for meeting
• 46:37
  Santa, because those lines get long.
• 46:38
  Yes. And do keep in mind when you're
• 46:40
  planning that you have to be nearby Once Upon a toy to be
• 46:45
  able to enter those virtual queues.
• 46:47
  So plan accordingly to make sure again, leave yourself lots of
• 46:51
  travel time, all of those things that we've talked about to get
• 46:55
  to that location before the virtual queue opens.
• 46:59
  I don't know how quickly it goes, I'm not sure exactly what
• 47:04
  that looks like. But I do know that once your
• 47:06
  virtual queue is called, it's a fairly short process, just like
• 47:08
  you would anticipate it. The other, you know, if you're
• 47:10
  using like a lightning lane at the other rides and what I was
• 47:13
  reading online and doing research for my own trip, a lot
• 47:16
  of people said like 15 to 20 minutes total from the time you
• 47:19
  get in line to the time that you're completely done.
• 47:21
  So the virtual queue is the way to go in my opinion, if that's
• 47:26
  something that you are able to do and hopefully cross our
• 47:30
  fingers they have it. Again, I feel like it was
• 47:33
  successful. So hopefully Disney gives us
• 47:35
  that back again. But that happened last year, It
• 47:38
  was around November 11th or 12th I believe that that started.
• 47:43
  So here in the next month we'll we'll know for sure whether or
• 47:46
  not that's an option. Yeah, I hope so.
• 47:49
  I think that's a great one. So you don't have to necessarily
• 47:52
  wait in line, especially if you've got kids that are like
• 47:54
  just can't, can't do that and how fun is it that it's up to
• 47:58
  toys like one of the toy stores like that makes it even better.
• 48:01
  I feel like not that the, I mean the other locations that he
• 48:03
  meets are also really great, but like, I feel like that's super
• 48:05
  fun that he's at the toy store, so.
• 48:07
  I think my favorite one I've ever been to is in California
• 48:10
  Adventure and Redwood Creek Challenge Trail because it's
• 48:12
  like meeting him in the forest. That's cool.
• 48:14
  And they have, you know, like the little book that you can
• 48:16
  sign like what you want for Christmas and you can write it
• 48:18
  in and all those things. And it's just so much fun.
• 48:21
  I love that. And now you found a new
• 48:23
  something new with Santa, right when you were doing your
• 48:26
  research. I had never heard of this and I
• 48:28
  was like, this is crazy. So they have breakfast with
• 48:32
  Santa in Disney Springs at Maria and Enzo's Restaurante.
• 48:37
  This is a special ticketed event that begins November 24th.
• 48:41
  Includes a family style breakfast, visit with Santa and
• 48:44
  the elves, a family photo with Santa, some treats, holiday
• 48:49
  activities and also for those who are 21 + a Prosecco mimosa.
• 48:53
  So you can have a mimosa with Santa and meet Santa.
• 48:58
  I love that. That's.
• 48:59
  Fantastic. Yeah.
• 49:01
  So this they have seatings at 93945 and 10:00 AM.
• 49:07
  And it's $45.00 for kids and $69.00 for adults.
• 49:10
  And I was like, surely this has been already sold out.
• 49:12
  This has to be sold out already. And I looked and like, no,
• 49:15
  there's still lots of openings right now.
• 49:17
  So if you get on it right now, if you want to have breakfast
• 49:23
  with Santa, like what a cool opportunity that is.
• 49:27
  Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know of
• 49:29
  anywhere else or you have breakfast with Santa, so that's
• 49:31
  pretty neat. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
• 49:35
  I think that sounds super fun. I know.
• 49:36
  I wish I was looking at the dates.
• 49:37
  I was like, oh, those dates don't.
• 49:39
  They don't line up with when we're going to be there.
• 49:43
  Yeah, I wouldn't go by do it by myself.
• 49:45
  I feel like I'm that's weird, but I would do with my kids.
• 49:49
  But I'm like I could do it, but probably not going to do that,
• 49:52
  but you know, it would be fine. Just be me drinking with Santa.
• 49:59
  I mean, I kind of love that we just see Kate's very
• 50:09
  sophisticatedly drinking her mimosa, just chatting about
• 50:11
  Disney history with Santa Claus. He's.
• 50:15
  Like, what do you want for for Christmas?
• 50:17
  I'm like I'm already getting it, like I'm having a break with the
• 50:20
  mimosa. We just chatting it up.
• 50:23
  We're good. I don't need anything else.
• 50:27
  Oh, anyway, anyway, so. Other things that.
• 50:33
  I would say not. You know, like we talked about
• 50:35
  being weird during Christmas, right?
• 50:37
  To avoid the crowds. OK, so so also that applies to
• 50:43
  not only eating at odd times and things like that, but also
• 50:46
  applies to doing things that you have never done before.
• 50:49
  I think that Christmas is a great time for that.
• 50:52
  Or hot. Or Thanksgiving.
• 50:53
  Or Halloween. Anytime, when there's a lot of
• 50:54
  crowds in the parks. Go find something that you've
• 50:57
  never done at Disney and it might just end up being one of
• 50:59
  your new favorite things. You know, we always, like, we
• 51:02
  always want to do like the major rides and all those things.
• 51:04
  And yes, we love all those things.
• 51:05
  But sometimes you can explore something new and make a new
• 51:08
  memory that you didn't even know that like was possible.
• 51:11
  So there's things like A Pirate's Adventure in Magic
• 51:14
  Kingdom, Treasures of the Seven Seas, where you can go and
• 51:17
  explore and you make all these like little things happen.
• 51:20
  With like a It's like a scavenger hunt where little
• 51:22
  magical things happen when you go do them, which is really fun.
• 51:25
  Have you done this, Jackie? No, I've seen it, but I have not
• 51:28
  done it. It's one of those things that,
• 51:30
  like, I hope that we have time for every trip and it just
• 51:33
  doesn't happen. And this trip we're not going to
• 51:36
  have enough time in Magic Kingdom to make that work.
• 51:38
  So we'll have to save that in our our back pocket for the next
• 51:41
  trip. Elliot and I did it one time
• 51:43
  when it was like really crowded and we're like there's literally
• 51:46
  nothing else for us to do because everything has like hour
• 51:48
  long waits and we were just done.
• 51:50
  So it actually was really fun and we we enjoyed it and I think
• 51:54
  you get a little souvenir card from it as well when you compete
• 51:56
  admission. So that's that's a fun one and
• 51:59
  it's it's free. So it doesn't cost extra to do
• 52:01
  that either. So also I always recommend Tom
• 52:05
  Solyer Island and I know everybody's like.
• 52:07
  Every time I go over there when I'm live and people are like, I
• 52:10
  haven't been over here in like a decade or like I've never been
• 52:13
  there or like. And I get it because it's like
• 52:15
  you have to take an extra boat there and like, you know what is
• 52:18
  over there to do. But it's so peaceful and it's so
• 52:21
  much fun for kids especially. There's lots of little things
• 52:24
  for them to climb on and explore.
• 52:26
  It's like going to nature in the middle of Disney.
• 52:30
  So I definitely recommend that one.
• 52:32
  Also taking rides in the Liberty Bell if you're an animal Kingdom
• 52:35
  doing some walking trails. Going to shows you've never seen
• 52:39
  before. A lot of those shows have pretty
• 52:40
  high capacity. Just make sure that you're
• 52:42
  there, not at the time it starts.
• 52:44
  Like give yourself buff extra buffer time because it's the
• 52:47
  holidays, so you know at least 1/2 hour before the show starts,
• 52:50
  you know make sure you're in line.
• 52:53
  You can search for hidden Mickeys, which we've talked
• 52:55
  about before, and then at Epcot there's a bunch of things to do.
• 52:58
  Jackie, do you want to talk about that a little bit?
• 53:00
  Yeah. So Epcot during their festival
• 53:02
  the holidays has several different things that you can
• 53:04
  do. And we've talked about these a
• 53:05
  little bit in some of our other Epcot and holiday episodes.
• 53:08
  But they've got their cookie stroll that they do every year
• 53:10
  where you go around the different countries and World
• 53:12
  Showcase and you get to sample and taste different cookies.
• 53:18
  And then Olaf's holiday tradition expedition scavenger
• 53:22
  hunt, which you know how much I love the scavenger hunts at
• 53:25
  Epcot. I think there's so much fun.
• 53:28
  So that's one that you can do where you go around searching
• 53:30
  for the traditions. So like, if you are familiar
• 53:32
  with the holiday special from Frozen where on an Elsa are
• 53:36
  looking for their traditions, like it's just so heartwarming
• 53:40
  and I just love that one, but there's a fun scavenger out with
• 53:43
  that. And then like I mentioned
• 53:44
  earlier, they do have the storyteller.
• 53:46
  So every country and world showcase has a holiday
• 53:50
  storyteller that tells different perspectives on the Christmas
• 53:55
  story or various other holiday stories based on their country
• 53:59
  that they're located in. So that's a really, really cool
• 54:02
  thing to do, especially if you've got kiddos that like will
• 54:06
  be able to pick out some of the likes, similarities and
• 54:08
  differences, you know, maybe a little bit older that will
• 54:11
  really kind of listen to that. But that that's kind of one of
• 54:16
  those really unique things to Epcot that you can find as well.
• 54:20
  Yeah, I think it's really fun to get to introduce your kids and
• 54:23
  yourself to some of the traditions in other countries.
• 54:26
  I think that's really fun, yeah. And I will add to this kind of
• 54:29
  talking about doing things you've never done before.
• 54:31
  We mentioned the resorts and this goes for you know what?
• 54:34
  Whatever if if you're at Disney World or Disneyland.
• 54:36
  But going to the the resorts and looking at things that you've
• 54:39
  never seen before at the resorts during the holidays or the
• 54:43
  specific decorations that they have can be something fun too.
• 54:46
  Yeah, definitely. And if you're in Disneyland,
• 54:50
  they I like to hunt for Christmas trees in Disneyland
• 54:54
  because they have so many of them.
• 54:56
  They do in Disney World too, have a lot of trees.
• 54:58
  But there's more in Disneyland, because I actually compared
• 55:00
  notes. With our friend Kirk from Walrus
• 55:02
  Carp last year, I was like, do you have a Christmas tree in
• 55:04
  every single store on Main Street?
• 55:06
  And he was like, no, I was like, we have like themed Christmas
• 55:10
  trees at Disneyland on every single store.
• 55:12
  And they're all themed to that store, which is crazy.
• 55:15
  And they also have them in pretty much every land,
• 55:18
  especially the one in Adventureland is super fun in
• 55:20
  Disneyland. So just go on a hunt for
• 55:22
  Christmas trees and see which kind of Christmas trees you can
• 55:25
  find. Is a fun one.
• 55:26
  I love that. When it gets super crowded
• 55:28
  because then you're also in and out of stores.
• 55:30
  And sometimes during the day, the stores aren't as crowded as
• 55:33
  they are, you know, at night when everybody's doing their
• 55:35
  shopping. So, yeah, yeah.
• 55:38
  So that's that's a. One of the things that we like
• 55:40
  to do, so should we talk about specifically escaping the crowds
• 55:45
  when you're just like done and don't want to be around people
• 55:48
  anymore? Yes, absolutely.
• 55:51
  So something that I just started to touch on that we can kind of
• 55:54
  elaborate a little bit on, is escaping at the resorts.
• 55:57
  So you can visit any of the resorts on Disney World
• 56:00
  property. You don't have to be staying
• 56:02
  there to visit every resort as long as you're there late
• 56:07
  enough, because it doesn't happen right after Halloween.
• 56:09
  But every resort in their lobby areas will have a Christmas
• 56:12
  tree. Oftentimes they are themed to
• 56:15
  the location that you're going to.
• 56:17
  So depending on what what your vibe is, you may kind of
• 56:22
  handpick out some of the different resorts that you want
• 56:24
  to visit. Like I know Animal Kingdom Lodge
• 56:26
  is huge on our list this year that we're going to try to get
• 56:28
  to to hopefully see the Christmas tree there because
• 56:31
  that's like my kids, that's their thing, is the animals and
• 56:34
  all that. So being able to do that and
• 56:37
  just being able to explore the resorts too and walking around,
• 56:40
  there are so many really great pathways.
• 56:43
  I think every resort on property has like a walking path or
• 56:46
  running path that you can take. If you're someone that like like
• 56:50
  you want to just you need you don't want to be in the parks
• 56:53
  and you need to get out. Your kiddos maybe need to burn
• 56:55
  some energy off because they've just it's overwhelming and over
• 56:58
  stimulating taking some of those pathways.
• 57:01
  Keep in mind they're they're fairly long.
• 57:03
  So Dave, make sure you look at how long they are before you
• 57:06
  start your your walk or your jog with them, but.
• 57:10
  Some of them have playgrounds too, right?
• 57:13
  Yep. Resorts have playgrounds that
• 57:14
  you can utilize. They have different, different
• 57:18
  events and different things that are going on.
• 57:19
  So typically at your own resort you can get an idea of, you know
• 57:22
  different places have they have different movies, they have
• 57:25
  different activities that they do.
• 57:26
  And we've talked about a lot of this at the we talked about like
• 57:29
  activities to do outside of the parks.
• 57:31
  We highlighted a lot of the specifics with that.
• 57:33
  So that can be a really good episode if you're looking for
• 57:35
  what do the resorts have to offer.
• 57:37
  But they also have different holiday activities.
• 57:39
  So Google is your friend if you're looking for certain
• 57:41
  specific resorts trying to figure out maybe what they have
• 57:44
  to offer and those offerings do typically fluctuate week to
• 57:48
  week. So do keep that in mind as well
• 57:50
  that what you see online may not be exactly what you get this
• 57:53
  year. Yeah, that's good.
• 57:56
  We also talked about doing, you know, pool time, things that you
• 57:59
  usually do. Take a break in your room at
• 58:01
  your resort just to escape. We're just, we're huge advocates
• 58:04
  of taking a break. You haven't noticed by now.
• 58:06
  We're like, just just go take a break, do it.
• 58:08
  Or you can take a swim. Although I always didn't say
• 58:11
  take a if you take a swim, you also need a break after your
• 58:13
  swim because it's physically exerting and your body still
• 58:16
  tired. So, you know, try to pair that
• 58:19
  as well. Or yeah, then you can definitely
• 58:21
  take in one of your park activities, which at your resort
• 58:25
  you're staying at. There's there'll be a list of
• 58:27
  things that are going on during the day.
• 58:30
  So you can either find the sign that says that or ask at the
• 58:33
  main desk and they'll they'll let you know what's going on
• 58:36
  that day. And keep in mind that some of
• 58:39
  the resorts have more extravagant Christmas displays
• 58:41
  than others. So if you're looking for
• 58:44
  gingerbread displays or you're looking for a specific giant
• 58:47
  trees versus kind of more of a standard sized tree, definitely
• 58:50
  looking around to see what is available is is hugely
• 58:54
  beneficial. I mean, I just went through all
• 58:56
  of this research too because I was like, OK, I need to find
• 58:59
  what our, our top options are because this trip we know it's
• 59:02
  going to be crazy crowds and we've already planned like 2 1/2
• 59:05
  resort days because we know that's just what we're what
• 59:09
  we're going to do on this trip. So it was it was one of those
• 59:12
  things I was like, OK, I need to refresh and remind myself what
• 59:15
  resort has what and where we want to go and all of that.
• 59:18
  But everyone has something a little bit different to offer,
• 59:20
  so definitely keep that in mind. Yeah, and like I know was the
• 59:24
  boardwalk has like the gingerbread carousel usually,
• 59:27
  which is really unique. And then, you know, I don't know
• 59:30
  if this year they'll do it grand.
• 59:32
  Floridian usually has a great big gingerbread house, but
• 59:34
  they're under construction right now, so I don't know.
• 59:36
  Well, they the lobby is finished.
• 59:38
  Oh, it's what I've seen. So I think they finished the
• 59:42
  lobby construction. Maybe in enough time that they
• 59:45
  probably have planned to do some sort of a gingerbread house.
• 59:48
  See that? They'd finished it.
• 59:49
  I just saw it last. Yeah, it reopened.
• 59:51
  It's maybe been two weeks, 2 weeks, 3 weeks since they took
• 59:56
  all the walls down. It does.
• 59:59
  It doesn't look much different where they did the construction,
• 1:00:01
  but who knows what they were working on.
• 1:00:03
  So you know, it is something, right?
• 1:00:06
  They did something over there. But so I think, I think we'll
• 1:00:08
  be, I'm hoping because I have never seen the gingerbread house
• 1:00:12
  in existence in person before. So that's one.
• 1:00:15
  That's. On our list for.
• 1:00:18
  You can usually buy a shingle or whatever too of gingerbread
• 1:00:21
  shingle for the from, you know, not the actual houses sitting
• 1:00:24
  there, but they make them, you know, so on all those good
• 1:00:27
  treats that they make on the inside, like, I just, I just
• 1:00:30
  want to go, I'm ready, I'm ready to go.
• 1:00:33
  But yeah, so. So take a look at the different
• 1:00:35
  resorts and see what they have to offer to kind of hand pick
• 1:00:38
  out the ones that you want to visit.
• 1:00:41
  Another thing you can do to escape the crowds is go on a
• 1:00:44
  Christmas tree stroll in Disney Springs, which has been around.
• 1:00:49
  It used to be kind of like a Christmas tree walk and then
• 1:00:51
  like the world changed a little bit and then they made it a
• 1:00:54
  stroll where they just put the trees throughout that you can
• 1:00:56
  find. But in previous years, this has
• 1:00:59
  been a complimentary thing where they'll actually give you a map
• 1:01:02
  that has stickers on it that you can when you find when you put
• 1:01:05
  the sticker on it. And that would the locations for
• 1:01:09
  the map were it City Works, Planet Hollywood, Uniqlo, I'm
• 1:01:14
  saying that right, right. The Boathouse and Crystal Arts,
• 1:01:19
  those were the places in the past where it's been.
• 1:01:21
  They haven't really like announced where it is this year,
• 1:01:23
  but we're assuming it'll probably be similar.
• 1:01:29
  Yeah. So then you get a prize.
• 1:01:30
  Last year, I think it was a button.
• 1:01:32
  When you complete it so and it's free.
• 1:01:34
  I love that it's free and it's a fun thing to do.
• 1:01:38
  And do keep in mind because this is one that we were also looking
• 1:01:40
  at, it is it's fairly spread out.
• 1:01:44
  So like don't anticipate walking through within a minute, you
• 1:01:47
  know, a couple minutes. It is a it is a fairly extensive
• 1:01:51
  process because it stretches like the entire length of one
• 1:01:55
  side of Disney Springs. So definitely take a look at
• 1:01:58
  that map and kind of visualize because we I as I was looking it
• 1:02:02
  up, I was like oh, that is extensive, OK, I need to plan a
• 1:02:05
  little bit more time in my day to make sure that we have enough
• 1:02:08
  time to get through all of those Christmas trees because that'll
• 1:02:11
  be fun for for my family to do. Like, yeah, so you know, go and
• 1:02:16
  get your virtual queue for Santa.
• 1:02:19
  That's our plan. Or breakfast with Santa.
• 1:02:21
  And then get go see all the Christmas trees.
• 1:02:24
  So that's our plan is to get there, get our virtual queue and
• 1:02:27
  then start the stroll until our time gets called and then go see
• 1:02:30
  Santa and. Then finish our stroll.
• 1:02:32
  That's so wise. I love it.
• 1:02:34
  So that's we're hoping that that works out.
• 1:02:36
  I will report back after we get back and let you all know
• 1:02:39
  whether or not that worked. Out.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah, I want a year and yes, I will.
• 1:02:43
  I will keep you posted and I will probably also do some live
• 1:02:45
  streaming from my personal account while we're down there
• 1:02:47
  to show off some of the stuff that we're doing too.
• 1:02:49
  Because like I said, we're trying to do again stuff that we
• 1:02:53
  haven't done before or stuff that we just don't typically
• 1:02:55
  take the time to be outside of the parks and do.
• 1:02:58
  We're kind of focused on those experiences this trip.
• 1:03:01
  So I'm excited. OK, you go see Santa and I'll go
• 1:03:04
  to Jollywood nights and we'll you go to Jollywood nights too.
• 1:03:08
  I am, yes, just after you. So I would, I think when we are
• 1:03:12
  going to do our episode on Jollywood nights here in a few
• 1:03:14
  weeks, it's going to be between our two trips.
• 1:03:16
  So it will be your experience and my prep for what I have
• 1:03:20
  found too. We're just going to combine it
• 1:03:21
  all together. Well, I just think if they, if
• 1:03:24
  they do projected. Muppets.
• 1:03:26
  I think there'll be a revolt like they did at Epcot, like we
• 1:03:30
  need Muppets. I'm trying to not get my hopes
• 1:03:32
  up that way. I will be pleasantly surprised,
• 1:03:36
  but yes. I agree.
• 1:03:37
  Speaking of fun, I have just a couple of things that are more
• 1:03:41
  not necessarily escaping the crowds, but just kind of like
• 1:03:44
  just for fun to bring a little extra magic to your holiday
• 1:03:48
  trip. And this is a little bit more
• 1:03:50
  for like Christmas specific, but you could do it for Halloween
• 1:03:53
  and for other holidays as well. You can bring some Christmas
• 1:03:57
  lights for inside your room. Make sure you unplug them when
• 1:04:01
  you're not in your room, just for safety.
• 1:04:04
  And I also know you don't want to hang them from any fixtures
• 1:04:08
  in the room because you might potentially damage them.
• 1:04:10
  So that and that's kind of in the Disney rules as well.
• 1:04:12
  So, but you can lay them across tables and dressers and and
• 1:04:16
  things like that. Hang them in ways that aren't
• 1:04:18
  going to damage anything, and that just makes it a little bit
• 1:04:21
  more festive. And something we've done in the
• 1:04:26
  past just at home with our kids while we're driving around in
• 1:04:29
  the Christmas season as we get lights that we can plug into
• 1:04:32
  something inside our car and then decorate the inside of our
• 1:04:35
  car. And then we put on Christmas
• 1:04:37
  music and drive around and we're kind of like, you know, it's
• 1:04:39
  like a mobile Christmas mobile. That's awesome.
• 1:04:42
  I love that. I love that.
• 1:04:44
  I might have to steal that for future car rides.
• 1:04:48
  I think that would be fun. We do it when we go and look at
• 1:04:50
  Christmas lights too, like on the way, and we'll we'll have
• 1:04:53
  hot chocolate and stuff like that.
• 1:04:55
  But just if you're driving to or from the parks in Disney, or if
• 1:04:58
  you're driving to Disney in general, like for the holidays,
• 1:05:01
  I think it would be a really fun way to make it a little extra
• 1:05:03
  magical. And we always surprised our kids
• 1:05:05
  with it. We didn't tell them that we're
• 1:05:06
  doing it and then they get in the car and we're like
• 1:05:08
  Christmas, hey. So the other things you can do
• 1:05:15
  is things for your room and the interior of a room.
• 1:05:19
  You can get window clings for your mirrors, you can get a
• 1:05:22
  little mini Christmas tree, just a small one.
• 1:05:26
  Just but a reminder that you can't decorate any balconies or
• 1:05:29
  exterior of your rooms at Disney.
• 1:05:31
  They have rules against that just to maintain the appearance
• 1:05:36
  in the storytelling of the outside of the building.
• 1:05:38
  So keep everything on the inside, although I will say.
• 1:05:41
  That a lot of people in the value resorts really like to
• 1:05:45
  decorate their windows. Yes, that is the thing you see a
• 1:05:48
  lot of that with those big windows that that look to the
• 1:05:50
  outside walkway. So I think that you can probably
• 1:05:54
  get away with as long as things remain inside and you're not
• 1:05:57
  putting anything on the outside surface of your window.
• 1:06:00
  I would say you're probably, you're probably OK with window
• 1:06:03
  clings and if you use you know like suction cup type things to
• 1:06:07
  hang like lights or things like that as long as it's not
• 1:06:10
  something that's going to damage any of the property like we
• 1:06:12
  said. Right, but it just a little
• 1:06:15
  extra extra magic for your vacation.
• 1:06:18
  I don't know if you have anything else to add to that
• 1:06:20
  check. No.
• 1:06:21
  I've always wanted to decorate in our room and I've never done
• 1:06:24
  it. And now you're inspiring me that
• 1:06:27
  I may have to do it for this trip.
• 1:06:30
  Well, it's so funny when you go on Disney cruises, everybody
• 1:06:32
  decorates their door and put magnets everywhere.
• 1:06:35
  And all the walls in the Disney cruise are magnetic so you can
• 1:06:39
  hang things on your walls with magnets.
• 1:06:41
  So perfect. I wonder if the window like the
• 1:06:45
  edges of the windows or have any magnetic spots in the Disney
• 1:06:49
  rooms. I.
• 1:06:50
  Don't know. Now I'm gonna test it.
• 1:06:51
  I'm gonna bring a magnet to see what sticks to what.
• 1:06:54
  No. Now I'm curious.
• 1:06:55
  I could probably look it up because I'm sure people have
• 1:06:57
  blogs about detailing how they decorated their room and what
• 1:07:00
  they put where and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:07:02
  So I may have to look into that. Jennifer says the value resorts.
• 1:07:06
  The Mouse Keeping gives awards for window decorations.
• 1:07:10
  Oh, that's so fun. Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  So that's really fun. So decorate your window just on
• 1:07:16
  the inside? Yes, inside and nothing
• 1:07:19
  permanent. Nothing that will damage, right?
• 1:07:21
  Is that enough? Disclaimers.
• 1:07:22
  Are we good? I've.
• 1:07:25
  Only said it like 20 times, but I think it's important that
• 1:07:27
  people know that. Yeah, very true.
• 1:07:30
  So I think the last thing that I just wanted to mention on this
• 1:07:32
  episode, unless Kate, you've got anything else to add before we
• 1:07:35
  kind of move on, is I I suggest listening to podcasts and
• 1:07:40
  reading blogs and Youtubes on people who have done the
• 1:07:43
  holidays at the parks. We've got several episodes that
• 1:07:47
  can be helpful. We've mentioned some of them
• 1:07:48
  kind of throughout this evening. We've got episodes on all of the
• 1:07:52
  holidays and the parties. We've got traveling with special
• 1:07:55
  needs, like I mentioned, activities at Disney outside of
• 1:07:58
  the parks and no wait activities.
• 1:08:00
  We say no wait activities. Now some of those may or may not
• 1:08:05
  still be accurate for these Disney holiday crowds, but it'll
• 1:08:09
  at least give you an idea. And we've got episodes on Genie
• 1:08:12
  Plus and how to utilize that. So just going back through and
• 1:08:15
  kind of making sure that you've done enough research, We're very
• 1:08:18
  big on doing your research and planning out.
• 1:08:21
  And I think it's especially important at the holidays that
• 1:08:23
  you make sure you've kind of read through the information
• 1:08:26
  that's out and available to you. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:08:30
  So at the end of all of our podcast episodes, we have
• 1:08:33
  started a new segment called Ask the Moms where we answer a
• 1:08:36
  question from our Mom St. community.
• 1:08:39
  It can be related to the topic, unrelated to the topic about any
• 1:08:42
  of the Disney Parks, Disneyland, Paris.
• 1:08:45
  Also now that we've got some experience there.
• 1:08:47
  But our question tonight comes from our wonderful friend Allie
• 1:08:51
  Beth. She asked this on our Discord
• 1:08:54
  and her question was any advice on hotels and children who
• 1:08:58
  struggle sleeping in new places, solutions or tips and tricks for
• 1:09:02
  that? Yeah.
• 1:09:04
  Do you do you want to go first? Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  So I have actually experienced this first hand on my son's
• 1:09:10
  first trip. Getting him to sleep was a
• 1:09:15
  struggle. So something that I suggest is
• 1:09:20
  thinking about kind of what it's going to look like ahead of time
• 1:09:24
  and trying to maybe simulate that at home if you're able to.
• 1:09:29
  So like my son was 22 months and had never slept since.
• 1:09:32
  He was old enough to remember, had never slept in the same room
• 1:09:35
  as me before, and that was very distracting to him because he
• 1:09:40
  could see me from his pack and play.
• 1:09:43
  He would, and he would stand at the end.
• 1:09:44
  Mama, Mama. Yeah, literally.
• 1:09:49
  Literally. So I wish that thinking back, I
• 1:09:53
  would have done some prep maybe for that to help him adjust
• 1:09:57
  'cause that was the biggest issue that he had.
• 1:10:00
  We also did our best to simulate like the amount of light and
• 1:10:05
  things like that and stick to his schedule the best that we
• 1:10:08
  could. Try not to put him to bed too
• 1:10:11
  late. I mean, they're going to go to
• 1:10:13
  bed a little bit later because you're at the Disney parks if
• 1:10:15
  you want them to be able to experience fireworks and
• 1:10:17
  Fantasmic and things like that. But trying to keep them on their
• 1:10:21
  schedule as much as we could was helpful that way.
• 1:10:24
  He was napping at the right time and that way bedtime was close
• 1:10:28
  to the right time. So that way he was getting
• 1:10:30
  enough sleep because it was a longer process to get him to
• 1:10:33
  sleep. Yeah, we I had my first, my
• 1:10:39
  first child didn't sleep for so long.
• 1:10:43
  I just like I remembering it. I'm like it was awful and it is
• 1:10:48
  tough. It's travel.
• 1:10:49
  It always takes three days for kids to adjust to a new sleeping
• 1:10:53
  environment. So keep that in mind if you are
• 1:10:55
  losing your mind that it takes three days and that will might
• 1:10:59
  help you. To make it through the first
• 1:11:02
  couple days, I also things we used to do.
• 1:11:07
  We always travel with white noise, always.
• 1:11:09
  And you can get it on an app on your phone even if you don't
• 1:11:11
  want to bring like a small white white noise machine.
• 1:11:14
  There's lots of apps for white noise and now my kids.
• 1:11:17
  Constantly sleep with that. That like helped us when we
• 1:11:19
  travelled in Europe. They had white noise on and it
• 1:11:22
  drowned out the very loud sounds of Paris outside our window
• 1:11:27
  because that was a cat. We slept over a cafe and there
• 1:11:29
  was like, oh this is like alarms and oh gosh it was so much, so
• 1:11:33
  white noise is your best friend if your kid is used to that.
• 1:11:36
  But yes, simulating their their regular environment and we used
• 1:11:40
  to do something. We would analyze kind of our
• 1:11:42
  space in our room and try to figure out if there was a place
• 1:11:45
  to put like the pack and play. Where they couldn't see us, even
• 1:11:48
  if it was like in the front hallway, just making sure we had
• 1:11:51
  enough room to get out if there was an emergency, but like put
• 1:11:54
  placing it in a place where they couldn't quite see us really
• 1:11:57
  made a difference for that. My kids also like to bring, my
• 1:12:04
  older kids like to bring, you know, blankets and stuffies that
• 1:12:07
  are like their comfort ones from home, so that really helps a
• 1:12:12
  lot. So things that smell familiar
• 1:12:14
  and feel familiar to their skin. That that helps a lot.
• 1:12:18
  And then yeah, keeping to the your bedtime routine if you have
• 1:12:22
  one at home, you know, we used to do like it's been so long.
• 1:12:26
  We've been we used to do you know, bath and and book and then
• 1:12:30
  bedtime, you know, like it kind of do following the same routine
• 1:12:33
  that you always do so that they're familiar with that
• 1:12:37
  really helps a lot to get them settled.
• 1:12:39
  But just recognize it probably will take a couple days for them
• 1:12:43
  to adjust. And that's OK and that's normal,
• 1:12:46
  Yes. And take a breath and try to be
• 1:12:48
  patient because it's hard because you're exhausted,
• 1:12:51
  they're exhausted. But I always will say also, just
• 1:12:55
  in general, my mom advice in any aspect of of sleep, sleep,
• 1:13:00
  training, sleeping in a new place, whatever it may be, it's
• 1:13:02
  just consistency, trying to be as consistent as possible.
• 1:13:07
  And again, that ties into those routines, doing those routines
• 1:13:10
  exactly like you do at home and reacting to them in the same way
• 1:13:15
  that you do if they were to be in their crib at home.
• 1:13:18
  So for example, if at home, if you do more of a cry it out
• 1:13:22
  method, do that at the hotel to an extent.
• 1:13:24
  You also have to remember you have people sleeping around you.
• 1:13:27
  But you know, those types of things.
• 1:13:29
  Try, try to keep it consistent, try to be calm, try to breathe,
• 1:13:35
  and if you need to, to step out. My husband and I, when it got to
• 1:13:39
  the point where we were like, we can't, like we need to step
• 1:13:43
  away, we literally would step into the bathroom area.
• 1:13:46
  Bathroom. I was gonna say the bathroom
• 1:13:48
  just leave until they fall asleep Doors.
• 1:13:50
  Yeah. And we sat in there on our
• 1:13:52
  phones for about 20 to 30 minutes, depending.
• 1:13:55
  And usually we could we would be able to peek out and and he
• 1:14:00
  would crash and that was that was what ended up helping.
• 1:14:04
  And then it took about two nights.
• 1:14:07
  And then like the 2nd morning he woke up and was like, all right,
• 1:14:09
  mom and dad are still here, OK, we're good.
• 1:14:11
  And then like, after that it was, it was much easier.
• 1:14:13
  And then we all got sick. And then it was a whole
• 1:14:15
  different story. And then that was just bad news
• 1:14:17
  bears. But, But yeah, but like, giving
• 1:14:21
  yourself that moment to step out.
• 1:14:24
  Because like, typically if your kids have been in the same room
• 1:14:27
  with you a lot of the times, if you're at like a family's house
• 1:14:29
  or something like that, you can lay them down and leave the room
• 1:14:32
  so they're not staring at you while they're trying to sleep.
• 1:14:35
  It's hard to do that in a hotel room.
• 1:14:38
  Yeah. So yeah, it's tough.
• 1:14:40
  And anytime you walk around, I remember so much of us, like
• 1:14:43
  creeping around our hotel room and like, barely breathing,
• 1:14:46
  making sure they couldn't see us.
• 1:14:49
  Yep, Yep, And you have to be really smart.
• 1:14:52
  About the other thing I will mention is being really smart
• 1:14:54
  about dividing and conquering the like.
• 1:14:57
  Just family things that need done that night, whether it's
• 1:15:00
  unpacking your bag, repacking for tomorrow.
• 1:15:03
  We would do a lot of dividing and conquering.
• 1:15:05
  One of us would be with my kiddo when we only had one.
• 1:15:08
  One of us would be with him and getting him ready for bed, while
• 1:15:11
  the other one was like very speedily getting the stuff
• 1:15:14
  unpacked and repacked as much as we could the night before.
• 1:15:17
  And some of that may just have to wait for the morning,
• 1:15:19
  depending on your situation and what needs done.
• 1:15:22
  But thinking about those things, because you're not going to be
• 1:15:26
  able to do them after they're asleep most of the time, unless
• 1:15:29
  you have a really heavy sleeper that once they're asleep,
• 1:15:31
  they're out. Good for you.
• 1:15:34
  I'm good, no. So I'm just planning that ahead
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  of time. I have a couple of comments
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  here. Some advice.
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  Star Sprite says I put washcloths over the little
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  random lights in the room and a clip for the curtains.
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  For cracks which you can use a clip.
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  Sometimes I use the. I do this even when I travel by
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  myself. I use the.
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  The curtains or not the curtains that, sorry, the hangers that
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  have the clips on them, if you turn them sideways, you can use
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  those to clip the curtain shut. So that's then you don't have to
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  bring one from home. And Nikki says sometimes there's
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  an actual cribs available if you don't want to pack and play, but
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  you need to call ahead. And my experience is sometimes
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  those aren't always like the cleanest depending on where you
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  stay. So bring some extra, like
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  sanitizing wipes, just in case. If you're using one of those
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  just for your own Peace of Mind, maybe it's just me and I, but I
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  I will, yeah, I you're not wrong.
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  And I will say especially cause a lot of kids tend to like on
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  their cribs. So like you know that's a normal
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  thing. But I will say if you're looking
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  at pack and plays versus cribs, keep in mind that different
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  hotels at on Disney World property offer different things.
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  Like all the value resorts only have pack and place.
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  They do not have any of the true cribs.
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  Most of the cribs you're going to find at the deluxe level and
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  moderate is going to be a hodgepodge mix of what they
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  have. So keep that in mind.
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  There are off property places you can rent from.
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  We talked about that, oh gosh, in Episode 2 maybe of Mom St.
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  way back when, when we were talking about kind of prepping
• 1:17:12
  for your trip and what to do ahead of time and we mentioned
• 1:17:15
  some different options there. So if that's something you need
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  to look into, refer back to that.
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  But there are places that you can rent them from.
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  I don't know sanitary wise if those are cleaner or not than
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  the Disney World ones. It's so hard to tell with Little
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  Littles especially. So yeah just plan on on wiping
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  some stuff down and also I would plan on bringing your own sheets
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  for those as well. Yes.
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  To make sure that you have one that's familiar to them, one
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  that fits the you know I'm, I'm a big advocate of safe sleep.
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  So you wanna make sure you have one that fits snugly on whatever
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  surface you're using, if it's a pack and play specific sheet or
• 1:17:55
  a crib sheet, just making sure you you throw those in your bag.
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  So that way your kiddo is safe. Sleep sacks, All of those types
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  of things. Because sometimes they in those
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  hotels, they'll like if they have a crib, they'll just tuck a
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  flat sheet around it rather than having an actual fitted sheet on
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  it. And I'm just like, that's a no.
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  So yeah, bring your own cheese from home, especially because
• 1:18:16
  they also smell like home, which helps a lot too.
• 1:18:18
  So yeah, lots and lots and lots of tips for can you tell We both
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  had tough sleepers. And the thing that got me was,
• 1:18:27
  my kiddo was a really good sleeper at home.
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  So we got there and I was just like, oh, I did not prepare for
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  this. I didn't, it didn't even cross
• 1:18:34
  my mind. I was worried about these
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  hundred other things for his first trip and getting there and
• 1:18:40
  all of that. But it was just like, 'cause we
• 1:18:43
  even we were fortunate enough because we drove.
• 1:18:45
  We actually brought our own pack and play because we drove, we
• 1:18:49
  were able to do that. So I had done that much and
• 1:18:52
  thought about the sheet in the pack and play and like, OK, this
• 1:18:55
  will be familiar, that'll be good.
• 1:18:56
  But I hadn't even thought about the fact that like, we'd all be
• 1:18:59
  going to bed at the same time and he'd be able to see me as he
• 1:19:02
  was trying to sleep. So luckily, my daughter's first
• 1:19:05
  trip, she was much older, not much older and older enough that
• 1:19:09
  she was sleeping in the bed and it was much easier with her.
• 1:19:14
  I think one trip we got so desperate that we like took all
• 1:19:18
  of the extra pillows in the room and stack them at the end of our
• 1:19:20
  bed and made like a wall so they couldn't see us.
• 1:19:24
  I mean, it wasn't anywhere near their Crips.
• 1:19:26
  They couldn't pull the pillows in or anything, but it was like
• 1:19:28
  it just was enough that sorry, it was just like enough that
• 1:19:31
  they could not see us at all. And we just have to be careful
• 1:19:35
  not to kick the pillows off. It was like it was a last ditch.
• 1:19:38
  We are exhausted and we need to sleep now that's sure.
• 1:19:41
  Yeah, you do what you got to do. It's no and maybe that's one of
• 1:19:44
  those things that if you've got both parents with you on that
• 1:19:47
  trip, you you need to rotate out so you both get enough sleep
• 1:19:51
  that the next day can still be a successful day.
• 1:19:55
  Yes. And if you are in that season
• 1:20:00
  and it feels like it's forever and it's never going to be over,
• 1:20:03
  just know that it's not going to be forever.
• 1:20:06
  Your kids will outgrow that. Eventually they will sleep.
• 1:20:08
  I promise you. They will sleep and it will get
• 1:20:12
  easier. It will get harder in other
• 1:20:15
  ways. It'll get easier physically over
• 1:20:18
  the years. So just hang in there and know
• 1:20:20
  that, you know, take a deep breath and know that you're not
• 1:20:23
  alone, that a lot of other moms are going through this right now
• 1:20:26
  and that it's it's normal to need a break sometimes.
• 1:20:29
  And it's OK to advocate for yourself and say I need to step
• 1:20:32
  away from this right now because I'm frustrated, so.
• 1:20:34
  Yeah, just say absolutely, Kathy Diaz, a really good question.
• 1:20:38
  Can you ship a pack and play to your resort?
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  I suppose you could. I don't know that it would be
• 1:20:45
  worth it because of the extra fees and pay, paying to ship it
• 1:20:49
  there and all that type of thing.
• 1:20:52
  Because then you'd also have to pay to possibly ship it back.
• 1:20:55
  And you know you have to pay extra package fees to receive it
• 1:20:58
  too, and you would have to go retrieve it from Bell Services.
• 1:21:01
  They wouldn't deliver that to your room because it's a
• 1:21:03
  package. So I if anything I would use a
• 1:21:07
  rental company, maybe from a local rental place.
• 1:21:10
  That would probably be the way I would go with that if you needed
• 1:21:12
  to. Yeah, unless, and I mean if you
• 1:21:15
  really are super worried about the the hygiene and how clean
• 1:21:18
  those are then maybe that's worth the extra hassle and and
• 1:21:22
  cost to you. But so I would think you would
• 1:21:23
  be able to because you can ship packages to your your resort but
• 1:21:27
  like Kate said you'd have to go down and and pick that up and
• 1:21:29
  haul it up to your. So it depends.
• 1:21:33
  It depends on how much it's you know if you have the budget for
• 1:21:35
  it and you think your kid would sleep better than go for it you
• 1:21:38
  know. But I probably that wouldn't be
• 1:21:40
  my advice to do that, if that makes sense.
• 1:21:43
  And Kathy said you could buy one there and then donate it when
• 1:21:45
  you're done. And I have seen people do that
• 1:21:47
  with like umbrella strollers and things like that.
• 1:21:50
  Or they'll leave it. Like there's lots of Facebook
• 1:21:52
  groups for the resorts where people will leave stuff behind
• 1:21:56
  in like laundry spaces or or right outside their rooms.
• 1:21:59
  Or, you know, that type of thing.
• 1:22:01
  I don't know that I necessarily advocate for that because I feel
• 1:22:03
  like sometimes it makes more work for mouse keeping if
• 1:22:05
  they're having to clean up all these extras.
• 1:22:07
  But you could possibly look into something with with a donation
• 1:22:12
  if you if it's if it works with your time frame to be able to do
• 1:22:15
  that on your way out. Absolutely.
• 1:22:17
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• 1:22:28
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• 1:22:53
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• 1:22:55
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• 1:22:58
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• 1:22:59
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• 1:23:02
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• 1:23:04
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• 1:23:06
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• 1:23:09
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• 1:23:11
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• 1:23:20
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• 1:23:53
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• 1:23:56
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