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Far out! Man’s biggest leap yet, and the new space race to the Moon’s treasure. · Phil and Ted's Sexy Boomer Show

• 0:00
  Welcome
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  to
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  Phil
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  and
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  Ted's
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  Sexy
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  Boomer
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  Show.
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  I'm
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  Ted
• 0:03
  Bonnitt
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  and
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  my
• 0:04
  trusty
• 0:05
  partner,
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  Phil
• 0:06
  Proctor
• 0:06
  is
• 0:07
  somewhere
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  in
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  the
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  ether.
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  Yeah.
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  There
• 0:09
  you
• 0:10
  are.
• 0:10
  I'm
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  sorry,
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  but
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  I
• 0:11
  was
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  on
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  the
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  dark
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  side
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  of
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  the
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  moon,
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  enjoying
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  complete
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  silence
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  and
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  no
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  communication
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  from
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  the
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  madness
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  of
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  Earth.
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  It
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  was
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  so
• 0:23
  nice.
• 0:24
  I
• 0:24
  really
• 0:24
  kind
• 0:24
  of
• 0:24
  wanted
• 0:25
  to
• 0:25
  stay
• 0:25
  there
• 0:25
  forever.
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  But,
• 0:26
  you
• 0:27
  know,
• 0:27
  we
• 0:27
  are
• 0:27
  higher
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  than
• 0:28
  usual
• 0:28
  this
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  week.
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  238,000
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  miles
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  higher.
• 0:32
  Moonwalking
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  through
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  NASA's
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  Artemis
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  program.
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  It's
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  been
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  a
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  great
• 0:36
  and
• 0:37
  fascinating
• 0:37
  week.
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  I'll
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  tell
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  you,
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  I
• 0:38
  was
• 0:38
  completely
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  nerding
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  out
• 0:40
  yesterday,
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  watching
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  all
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  day
• 0:41
  as
• 0:41
  they
• 0:41
  flew
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  around
• 0:42
  the
• 0:42
  Moon
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  and
• 0:43
  now
• 0:43
  they're
• 0:43
  headed
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  back
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  already
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  to
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  Earth.
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  It's
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  just
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  so
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  great.
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  I
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  agree.
• 0:47
  I
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  was
• 0:47
  a
• 0:47
  teenager
• 0:48
  when
• 0:48
  we
• 0:48
  went
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  back
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  last
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  time.
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  It's
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  just
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  so
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  great
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  to
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  connect
• 0:51
  to
• 0:52
  that.
• 0:52
  Especially
• 0:52
  what's
• 0:53
  going
• 0:53
  on
• 0:53
  here
• 0:54
  on
• 0:54
  this
• 0:54
  planet
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  right
• 0:55
  now,
• 0:56
  which.
• 0:57
  Being
• 0:57
  held
• 0:57
  hostage
• 0:58
  by
• 0:58
  Grandpa.
• 0:59
  Angry
• 1:00
  Grandpa?
• 1:01
  No,
• 1:01
  mad
• 1:02
  Grandpa.
• 1:03
  He's
• 1:03
  as
• 1:03
  crazy
• 1:03
  as
• 1:04
  a
• 1:04
  loon.
• 1:05
  Just
• 1:05
  this
• 1:05
  weekend
• 1:05
  alone.
• 1:06
  Did
• 1:06
  you
• 1:06
  hear
• 1:07
  what
• 1:07
  he
• 1:07
  said
• 1:07
  to
• 1:07
  the
• 1:07
  kids
• 1:08
  during
• 1:08
  the
• 1:08
  the
• 1:08
  Easter
• 1:09
  egg
• 1:09
  hunt?
• 1:09
  Oh,
• 1:10
  my
• 1:10
  God.
• 1:11
  Hey,
• 1:11
  every
• 1:11
  egg
• 1:12
  that
• 1:12
  they
• 1:12
  found
• 1:12
  was
• 1:12
  cracked
• 1:14
  just
• 1:14
  like
• 1:14
  him.
• 1:16
  Believe
• 1:17
  me,
• 1:17
  it's
• 1:17
  no
• 1:17
  yolk.
• 1:18
  Are
• 1:18
  you
• 1:19
  done?
• 1:20
  Never.
• 1:21
  Yeah,
• 1:21
  that's
• 1:21
  it.
• 1:22
  Yeah.
• 1:23
  Bill,
• 1:23
  let's
• 1:23
  get
• 1:24
  off
• 1:24
  planet
• 1:24
  for
• 1:24
  an
• 1:24
  hour,
• 1:25
  shall
• 1:25
  we?
• 1:26
  Let's
• 1:26
  just
• 1:27
  get
• 1:27
  out
• 1:27
  of
• 1:27
  here.
• 1:28
  Beam
• 1:28
  me
• 1:28
  up,
• 1:29
  Ted.
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  Our
• 1:29
  guest
• 1:30
  today
• 1:30
  is
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  Leonard
• 1:31
  David.
• 1:32
  He's
• 1:32
  an
• 1:32
  old
• 1:33
  buddy
• 1:33
  from
• 1:34
  my
• 1:34
  space
• 1:34
  reporting
• 1:35
  days
• 1:35
  in
• 1:35
  Washington
• 1:36
  D.C.
• 1:36
  in
• 1:36
  the
• 1:37
  80s.
• 1:37
  He
• 1:37
  is
• 1:38
  still
• 1:38
  doing
• 1:38
  it.
• 1:39
  He's
• 1:39
  a
• 1:39
  space
• 1:39
  journalist,
• 1:40
  an
• 1:40
  author,
• 1:40
  a
• 1:41
  man
• 1:41
  who's
• 1:41
  been
• 1:41
  reporting
• 1:42
  on
• 1:42
  humanity's
• 1:42
  off
• 1:43
  world
• 1:43
  ambitions
• 1:43
  for
• 1:44
  over
• 1:44
  50
• 1:44
  years.
• 1:45
  He
• 1:45
  has
• 1:46
  written
• 1:46
  a
• 1:47
  number
• 1:47
  of
• 1:47
  books
• 1:47
  including
• 1:48
  Moon
• 1:48
  Rush,
• 1:48
  the
• 1:48
  New
• 1:49
  Space
• 1:49
  Race.
• 1:49
  And
• 1:50
  he
• 1:50
  co
• 1:50
  authored
• 1:50
  Mission
• 1:51
  to
• 1:51
  Mars,
• 1:51
  My
• 1:51
  Vision
• 1:52
  for
• 1:52
  Space
• 1:52
  Exploration
• 1:53
  with
• 1:53
  Buzz
• 1:53
  Aldrin,
• 1:54
  the
• 1:54
  Second
• 1:54
  man
• 1:55
  on
• 1:55
  the
• 1:55
  Moon.
• 1:56
  Leonard,
• 1:57
  you're
• 1:57
  a
• 1:57
  Space
• 1:57
  insider
• 1:58
  columnist
• 1:59
  for
• 1:59
  Space.com,
• 2:00
  and
• 2:00
  you've
• 2:01
  written
• 2:01
  for
• 2:01
  sky
• 2:01
  and
• 2:01
  Telescope
• 2:02
  Astronomy,
• 2:03
  Aviation
• 2:03
  Week.
• 2:03
  You've
• 2:04
  consulted
• 2:04
  for
• 2:05
  NASA.
• 2:05
  You
• 2:06
  served
• 2:06
  as
• 2:06
  Director
• 2:06
  of
• 2:07
  Research
• 2:07
  for
• 2:07
  the
• 2:07
  National
• 2:08
  Commission
• 2:08
  on
• 2:08
  Space,
• 2:09
  a
• 2:09
  US
• 2:09
  congressional
• 2:10
  White
• 2:10
  House
• 2:11
  study
• 2:11
  that
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  appraised
• 2:12
  the
• 2:13
  next
• 2:13
  50
• 2:13
  to
• 2:13
  100
• 2:14
  years
• 2:14
  of
• 2:14
  space
• 2:14
  exploration.
• 2:15
  So,
• 2:16
  Leonard,
• 2:16
  welcome.
• 2:17
  And
• 2:17
  how
• 2:17
  have
• 2:17
  we
• 2:17
  been
• 2:18
  doing?
• 2:18
  Well,
• 2:19
  I'm
• 2:19
  telling
• 2:19
  you,
• 2:20
  the
• 2:20
  older
• 2:20
  I
• 2:20
  get,
• 2:21
  a
• 2:21
  little
• 2:22
  bit
• 2:22
  more
• 2:23
  desperate
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  I
• 2:24
  seem
• 2:25
  to
• 2:25
  be.
• 2:25
  And
• 2:25
  I'm
• 2:25
  not
• 2:26
  going
• 2:26
  to
• 2:26
  let
• 2:26
  you
• 2:26
  off
• 2:26
  the
• 2:26
  hook
• 2:27
  on
• 2:27
  being
• 2:27
  bombastic
• 2:28
  because
• 2:30
  here
• 2:30
  on
• 2:31
  Earth
• 2:31
  we.
• 2:32
  You
• 2:32
  can
• 2:32
  see
• 2:32
  what's
• 2:33
  going
• 2:33
  on
• 2:33
  militarily
• 2:35
  in
• 2:36
  a
• 2:36
  lot
• 2:36
  of
• 2:36
  different
• 2:37
  kinds
• 2:38
  of
• 2:38
  regimes,
• 2:39
  whether
• 2:39
  it's
• 2:39
  the
• 2:40
  sea,
• 2:41
  air,
• 2:42
  land,
• 2:43
  polar
• 2:44
  desert,
• 2:46
  and
• 2:47
  what
• 2:47
  people
• 2:48
  are
• 2:48
  not
• 2:48
  Paying
• 2:49
  attention
• 2:49
  to
• 2:50
  is
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  increasing
• 2:52
  military
• 2:53
  buildup
• 2:54
  in
• 2:55
  low
• 2:55
  Earth
• 2:55
  orbit.
• 2:56
  And
• 2:56
  I'm
• 2:56
  not
• 2:56
  just
• 2:57
  talking
• 2:57
  the
• 2:57
  U.S.
• 2:58
  i'm
• 2:58
  talking
• 2:58
  China,
• 2:59
  Russia,
• 3:00
  a
• 3:00
  lot
• 3:00
  of
• 3:00
  other
• 3:01
  countries,
• 3:02
  and
• 3:02
  all
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  way
• 3:03
  out
• 3:03
  to
• 3:03
  cislunar
• 3:04
  space.
• 3:05
  And
• 3:06
  so
• 3:06
  this
• 3:07
  posturing
• 3:08
  we
• 3:08
  have
• 3:08
  down
• 3:09
  here
• 3:09
  on
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  Earth
• 3:10
  is
• 3:10
  being
• 3:10
  mimicked
• 3:11
  in
• 3:12
  space.
• 3:12
  So
• 3:13
  we're
• 3:13
  not
• 3:13
  off
• 3:13
  the
• 3:14
  hook
• 3:14
  on
• 3:14
  that
• 3:15
  theme.
• 3:16
  The
• 3:16
  Apollo
• 3:16
  program
• 3:17
  was
• 3:17
  essentially
• 3:17
  a
• 3:18
  political
• 3:18
  program
• 3:18
  against
• 3:19
  the
• 3:19
  Russians
• 3:19
  in
• 3:20
  memory
• 3:20
  of
• 3:20
  John
• 3:20
  Kennedy
• 3:21
  to
• 3:21
  get
• 3:21
  to
• 3:21
  the
• 3:22
  moon
• 3:22
  first.
• 3:23
  But
• 3:23
  we're
• 3:24
  in
• 3:24
  a
• 3:24
  very
• 3:24
  intense
• 3:25
  space
• 3:25
  race
• 3:25
  again
• 3:26
  with
• 3:26
  China
• 3:27
  this
• 3:27
  time,
• 3:28
  and.
• 3:28
  Yeah,
• 3:29
  so
• 3:29
  that's
• 3:29
  why
• 3:29
  this
• 3:30
  rush
• 3:30
  to
• 3:30
  the
• 3:30
  moon.
• 3:31
  Why
• 3:31
  are
• 3:31
  we
• 3:31
  in
• 3:32
  a
• 3:32
  space
• 3:32
  race
• 3:32
  with
• 3:33
  China?
• 3:33
  And
• 3:33
  why
• 3:33
  does
• 3:33
  it
• 3:33
  matter
• 3:34
  at
• 3:34
  this
• 3:34
  point?
• 3:34
  It's
• 3:35
  not
• 3:35
  political
• 3:35
  score,
• 3:36
  necessarily.
• 3:37
  Well,
• 3:37
  it
• 3:37
  depends
• 3:38
  on
• 3:38
  who
• 3:38
  you're
• 3:38
  talking
• 3:39
  to.
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  mean,
• 3:40
  clearly
• 3:42
  the
• 3:42
  new
• 3:42
  NASA
• 3:42
  administrator
• 3:43
  and
• 3:44
  President
• 3:44
  Trump
• 3:45
  have
• 3:46
  made
• 3:46
  it
• 3:46
  clear
• 3:46
  that
• 3:47
  we
• 3:47
  got
• 3:47
  to
• 3:47
  get
• 3:47
  back
• 3:48
  before
• 3:48
  China.
• 3:50
  Reboot
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  moon,
• 3:51
  is
• 3:51
  what
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  call
• 3:52
  it.
• 3:52
  You
• 3:52
  know,
• 3:53
  and
• 3:54
  China,
• 3:55
  I
• 3:55
  watch
• 3:55
  it
• 3:55
  pretty
• 3:56
  closely
• 3:56
  almost
• 3:57
  every
• 3:57
  day.
• 3:57
  And
• 3:58
  it's
• 3:58
  not
• 3:59
  the
• 3:59
  easiest
• 3:59
  thing
• 4:00
  to,
• 4:00
  you
• 4:00
  know,
• 4:00
  you
• 4:00
  can't
• 4:01
  call
• 4:01
  them
• 4:01
  up
• 4:02
  and
• 4:02
  ask
• 4:02
  for
• 4:02
  public
• 4:03
  affairs
• 4:03
  over
• 4:04
  there
• 4:04
  and
• 4:04
  get
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  quote.
• 4:05
  So
• 4:06
  you
• 4:06
  got
• 4:06
  to
• 4:06
  piece
• 4:06
  together
• 4:07
  what
• 4:08
  they're
• 4:08
  doing,
• 4:08
  and
• 4:09
  they
• 4:09
  don't
• 4:10
  hide
• 4:10
  much,
• 4:11
  but
• 4:11
  you
• 4:11
  got
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  piece
• 4:12
  it
• 4:12
  together.
• 4:12
  And
• 4:13
  they're
• 4:13
  making
• 4:13
  a
• 4:13
  very
• 4:14
  aggressive
• 4:15
  lunar
• 4:16
  landing
• 4:16
  program
• 4:17
  for
• 4:17
  their
• 4:17
  own
• 4:18
  tychonauts.
• 4:20
  And,
• 4:20
  you
• 4:21
  know,
• 4:21
  as
• 4:21
  we
• 4:21
  speak,
• 4:21
  there's
• 4:22
  three
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  those
• 4:22
  folks
• 4:23
  up
• 4:23
  in
• 4:23
  their
• 4:24
  own
• 4:24
  Chinese
• 4:25
  space
• 4:25
  station.
• 4:26
  Things
• 4:26
  are
• 4:27
  moving
• 4:27
  along.
• 4:28
  They're
• 4:28
  going
• 4:28
  to
• 4:28
  have
• 4:28
  a
• 4:29
  new
• 4:29
  resupply
• 4:29
  flight
• 4:30
  coming
• 4:30
  up.
• 4:30
  They're
• 4:31
  going
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  be
• 4:31
  doing
• 4:33
  more
• 4:33
  modules
• 4:34
  on
• 4:34
  their
• 4:34
  space
• 4:35
  station,
• 4:35
  and
• 4:35
  they're
• 4:36
  testing
• 4:36
  out
• 4:37
  all
• 4:37
  the
• 4:37
  lunar
• 4:37
  hardware.
• 4:39
  So
• 4:39
  they're
• 4:40
  making
• 4:40
  their
• 4:40
  own
• 4:41
  headway
• 4:42
  to
• 4:43
  put
• 4:43
  their
• 4:43
  own
• 4:43
  tychonauts
• 4:44
  on
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  moon.
• 4:45
  Some
• 4:46
  people
• 4:46
  are
• 4:46
  paranoid,
• 4:47
  some
• 4:47
  people
• 4:47
  are
• 4:48
  not.
• 4:49
  There
• 4:49
  may
• 4:50
  be.
• 4:50
  I'm
• 4:50
  going
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  throw
• 4:51
  this
• 4:51
  out
• 4:51
  just
• 4:52
  because
• 4:53
  I'm
• 4:53
  trying
• 4:53
  to
• 4:54
  wrap
• 4:55
  my
• 4:55
  mind
• 4:55
  around
• 4:56
  it
• 4:56
  myself.
• 4:57
  Back
• 4:57
  in
• 4:58
  the
• 4:58
  heyday
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  space
• 4:59
  race,
• 5:00
  Kennedy
• 5:01
  and
• 5:02
  Nikita
• 5:02
  Khrushchev,
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  Soviet
• 5:04
  Union
• 5:05
  president
• 5:05
  at
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  time,
• 5:07
  sat
• 5:07
  down
• 5:08
  and
• 5:08
  talked
• 5:08
  about
• 5:09
  could
• 5:09
  they
• 5:09
  do
• 5:09
  a
• 5:10
  cooperative
• 5:10
  thing
• 5:12
  at
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  moon.
• 5:13
  Now
• 5:13
  Khrushchev
• 5:14
  said,
• 5:14
  yeah,
• 5:15
  no.
• 5:16
  And
• 5:17
  their
• 5:17
  program
• 5:18
  kind
• 5:18
  of
• 5:18
  collapsed
• 5:19
  on
• 5:19
  itself
• 5:19
  to
• 5:19
  get
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  moon.
• 5:21
  And
• 5:21
  one
• 5:22
  wonders
• 5:22
  whether
• 5:22
  or
• 5:23
  not
• 5:23
  the
• 5:23
  window
• 5:23
  of
• 5:24
  opportunity
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  work
• 5:26
  with
• 5:26
  China
• 5:27
  and
• 5:27
  would
• 5:27
  they
• 5:28
  work
• 5:28
  with
• 5:28
  us
• 5:28
  on
• 5:29
  developing
• 5:30
  maybe
• 5:30
  a
• 5:30
  more
• 5:30
  fundamental
• 5:31
  lunar
• 5:32
  base.
• 5:33
  You
• 5:33
  know,
• 5:34
  at
• 5:34
  some
• 5:34
  point,
• 5:35
  we're
• 5:36
  going
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  need
• 5:36
  each
• 5:36
  other
• 5:37
  because
• 5:37
  we're
• 5:37
  going
• 5:37
  to
• 5:37
  have
• 5:37
  a
• 5:38
  911
• 5:38
  call
• 5:39
  coming
• 5:39
  out
• 5:39
  of
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  moon,
• 5:40
  and
• 5:40
  it'd
• 5:41
  be
• 5:41
  nice
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  try
• 5:41
  to
• 5:42
  coordinate
• 5:43
  efforts.
• 5:44
  You
• 5:44
  would
• 5:44
  think
• 5:44
  there's
• 5:45
  enough
• 5:45
  for
• 5:45
  everyone
• 5:45
  on
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  Moon.
• 5:47
  Why
• 5:47
  should
• 5:47
  we
• 5:47
  extend
• 5:48
  our
• 5:48
  territorial
• 5:49
  instincts
• 5:50
  there?
• 5:51
  We
• 5:51
  seem
• 5:51
  to
• 5:51
  be
• 5:51
  fixed
• 5:52
  on
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  south
• 5:53
  pole
• 5:53
  of
• 5:53
  the
• 5:54
  moon
• 5:55
  where
• 5:55
  it's
• 5:55
  been
• 5:56
  always
• 5:56
  dark.
• 5:56
  And
• 5:57
  there
• 5:57
  might
• 5:57
  be
• 5:57
  large
• 5:58
  deposits
• 5:58
  of
• 5:59
  ice
• 5:59
  there,
• 5:59
  which
• 5:59
  water
• 6:00
  is
• 6:00
  essential
• 6:01
  to
• 6:01
  living
• 6:01
  on
• 6:01
  the
• 6:02
  moon.
• 6:02
  Wait
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  minute,
• 6:03
  there's
• 6:03
  ice
• 6:04
  on
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  Moon?
• 6:05
  My
• 6:05
  God,
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  thought
• 6:05
  they
• 6:06
  were
• 6:06
  just
• 6:07
  looking
• 6:07
  for
• 6:07
  immigrants
• 6:08
  down
• 6:08
  here.
• 6:09
  Give
• 6:09
  it
• 6:10
  time.
• 6:10
  Oh
• 6:11
  God.
• 6:11
  One
• 6:11
  of
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  spoils
• 6:12
  of
• 6:12
  the
• 6:12
  moon
• 6:13
  is
• 6:13
  helium
• 6:14
  3.
• 6:16
  That's
• 6:16
  right.
• 6:17
  That's
• 6:17
  right.
• 6:18
  It's
• 6:18
  helium
• 6:18
  with
• 6:19
  one
• 6:19
  less
• 6:20
  neutron.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:22
  it's
• 6:22
  very
• 6:23
  important
• 6:23
  in
• 6:23
  the
• 6:24
  production
• 6:24
  of
• 6:24
  quantum
• 6:25
  computers
• 6:25
  and
• 6:26
  chips.
• 6:27
  And
• 6:27
  it
• 6:28
  costs
• 6:29
  $9
• 6:29
  million
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  pound
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  produce
• 6:31
  it
• 6:31
  on
• 6:32
  Earth
• 6:32
  because
• 6:32
  it's
• 6:32
  extremely
• 6:33
  rare
• 6:33
  on
• 6:33
  Earth,
• 6:34
  but
• 6:34
  it's
• 6:35
  fairly
• 6:35
  common
• 6:35
  on
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  MO
• 6:36
  because
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  preserved
• 6:38
  what
• 6:38
  came
• 6:38
  off
• 6:38
  the
• 6:39
  sun
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  it's
• 6:39
  sitting
• 6:39
  there.
• 6:40
  So
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  H3
• 6:42
  deposits
• 6:42
  on
• 6:42
  the
• 6:43
  moon
• 6:43
  theoretically
• 6:44
  would
• 6:44
  be
• 6:45
  so
• 6:45
  valuable
• 6:45
  it
• 6:45
  would
• 6:46
  pay
• 6:46
  for
• 6:46
  the
• 6:46
  Moon
• 6:46
  program?
• 6:48
  It
• 6:48
  could
• 6:48
  be,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:49
  know,
• 6:49
  but
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  tell
• 6:49
  you,
• 6:50
  it's
• 6:50
  kind
• 6:50
  of
• 6:51
  squirrely
• 6:51
  right
• 6:51
  now
• 6:52
  because
• 6:52
  why
• 6:53
  you
• 6:53
  need
• 6:54
  the
• 6:54
  data
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  need
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  get.
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  mean
• 6:55
  we
• 6:56
  have
• 6:58
  inclinations
• 6:59
  that
• 7:00
  water
• 7:00
  ice
• 7:01
  is
• 7:01
  there
• 7:01
  in
• 7:02
  these,
• 7:02
  what
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  call
• 7:03
  sun
• 7:03
  shy
• 7:04
  craters
• 7:04
  that
• 7:05
  they
• 7:05
  never
• 7:06
  see
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  sun.
• 7:07
  But
• 7:08
  the
• 7:08
  helium
• 7:09
  3
• 7:09
  thing,
• 7:10
  it
• 7:10
  really
• 7:11
  is
• 7:11
  an
• 7:11
  issue
• 7:11
  of
• 7:13
  infrastructure
• 7:13
  to
• 7:14
  mine
• 7:15
  helium
• 7:15
  3
• 7:16
  from
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  moon.
• 7:16
  It
• 7:17
  takes
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  lot
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  infrastructure
• 7:18
  to
• 7:19
  even
• 7:19
  plow
• 7:20
  through
• 7:21
  a
• 7:21
  bunch
• 7:21
  of
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  Moon's
• 7:22
  surface
• 7:23
  to
• 7:23
  get
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  stuff,
• 7:24
  but
• 7:24
  it's
• 7:25
  there.
• 7:25
  And
• 7:26
  one
• 7:27
  thing
• 7:27
  that
• 7:28
  you
• 7:28
  gotta
• 7:28
  watch
• 7:29
  at
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  end
• 7:29
  of
• 7:30
  the
• 7:30
  year,
• 7:31
  I'm
• 7:31
  not
• 7:31
  sure
• 7:31
  what
• 7:31
  the
• 7:32
  date
• 7:32
  is
• 7:32
  going
• 7:32
  to
• 7:32
  be,
• 7:32
  but
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  China
• 7:34
  is
• 7:34
  going
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  launch
• 7:35
  what
• 7:35
  they
• 7:35
  call
• 7:35
  the
• 7:36
  Shangi
• 7:36
  7
• 7:37
  robotic
• 7:37
  lander
• 7:39
  at
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  south
• 7:40
  pole.
• 7:41
  And
• 7:41
  then
• 7:42
  they're
• 7:42
  going
• 7:42
  to
• 7:42
  follow
• 7:42
  in
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  couple
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  years
• 7:43
  after
• 7:44
  that
• 7:44
  with
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  Shangi
• 7:45
  8.
• 7:46
  And
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  two
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  them
• 7:47
  are
• 7:47
  meant
• 7:47
  to
• 7:49
  discern
• 7:49
  what's
• 7:50
  going
• 7:50
  on
• 7:50
  in
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  South
• 7:51
  Pole,
• 7:51
  look
• 7:51
  for
• 7:52
  resources,
• 7:53
  understand
• 7:54
  better
• 7:54
  what
• 7:55
  kind
• 7:55
  of
• 7:55
  water
• 7:55
  ice
• 7:56
  may
• 7:56
  be
• 7:56
  there.
• 7:57
  And
• 7:57
  it
• 7:58
  is
• 7:58
  all
• 7:58
  prelude
• 7:59
  to
• 7:59
  them
• 8:00
  setting
• 8:00
  up
• 8:01
  what
• 8:01
  they
• 8:01
  call
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  International
• 8:03
  Lunar
• 8:03
  Research
• 8:04
  Station.
• 8:04
  Ilrs,
• 8:06
  they
• 8:06
  pretty
• 8:07
  much
• 8:07
  pronounce
• 8:08
  where,
• 8:08
  what
• 8:09
  they
• 8:09
  want
• 8:09
  to
• 8:09
  do
• 8:10
  and
• 8:10
  how
• 8:10
  they're
• 8:10
  going
• 8:10
  to
• 8:11
  go
• 8:11
  about
• 8:11
  it.
• 8:12
  And
• 8:12
  just
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  other
• 8:13
  day
• 8:14
  they've
• 8:15
  advanced
• 8:16
  one
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  test
• 8:17
  parts
• 8:17
  of
• 8:18
  their
• 8:18
  program
• 8:18
  for
• 8:19
  lunar
• 8:19
  exploration.
• 8:20
  And
• 8:21
  it
• 8:21
  seems
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  me
• 8:22
  that
• 8:22
  they
• 8:22
  clearly
• 8:23
  see
• 8:23
  NASA
• 8:24
  moving
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  a
• 8:26
  certain
• 8:26
  date
• 8:26
  and
• 8:27
  they're
• 8:27
  gonna
• 8:28
  do
• 8:28
  everything
• 8:28
  they
• 8:28
  probably
• 8:29
  can
• 8:29
  do
• 8:29
  to
• 8:30
  make
• 8:31
  sure
• 8:31
  they
• 8:31
  get
• 8:31
  there
• 8:31
  first.
• 8:32
  Who
• 8:33
  knows,
• 8:33
  back
• 8:34
  in
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  80s
• 8:35
  when
• 8:35
  we
• 8:35
  were
• 8:35
  both
• 8:35
  covering
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  space
• 8:36
  program,
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  had
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  chance
• 8:38
  to
• 8:38
  pretty
• 8:38
  much
• 8:39
  talk
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  everybody
• 8:39
  who
• 8:39
  walked
• 8:39
  on
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  moon
• 8:40
  and
• 8:41
  they
• 8:41
  did
• 8:41
  come
• 8:41
  back
• 8:42
  changed.
• 8:42
  The
• 8:43
  human
• 8:43
  experience
• 8:43
  of
• 8:44
  going
• 8:44
  off
• 8:44
  planet
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  another
• 8:45
  planet
• 8:46
  certainly
• 8:46
  changed
• 8:47
  them.
• 8:47
  And
• 8:47
  they
• 8:48
  had
• 8:48
  a
• 8:48
  greater
• 8:48
  appreciation
• 8:49
  for
• 8:49
  the
• 8:49
  fragility
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  Earth
• 8:51
  and
• 8:51
  the
• 8:51
  whole
• 8:51
  idea
• 8:52
  of
• 8:52
  wars
• 8:53
  and
• 8:53
  borders
• 8:54
  on
• 8:54
  the
• 8:54
  planet
• 8:55
  were
• 8:55
  invisible
• 8:55
  from.
• 8:57
  And
• 8:57
  they
• 8:57
  came
• 8:57
  back
• 8:58
  changed.
• 8:59
  And
• 8:59
  it
• 8:59
  was
• 8:59
  difficult
• 8:59
  for
• 9:00
  them
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  articulate
• 9:00
  that
• 9:01
  because
• 9:01
  these
• 9:01
  guys
• 9:01
  were
• 9:02
  like
• 9:02
  MIT
• 9:02
  scientists.
• 9:03
  They
• 9:03
  were
• 9:03
  very
• 9:04
  left
• 9:04
  brain,
• 9:04
  like
• 9:05
  Ed
• 9:05
  Mitchell
• 9:05
  having
• 9:06
  the
• 9:06
  computer
• 9:06
  go
• 9:06
  down
• 9:07
  on
• 9:07
  descent
• 9:08
  to
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  moon.
• 9:08
  You
• 9:09
  can't
• 9:09
  be
• 9:09
  looking
• 9:09
  out
• 9:09
  the
• 9:09
  window
• 9:10
  going,
• 9:10
  wow,
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  need
• 9:11
  to
• 9:11
  be
• 9:11
  completely
• 9:12
  focused.
• 9:13
  But
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  flip
• 9:13
  side
• 9:14
  of
• 9:14
  that
• 9:14
  is
• 9:14
  that
• 9:14
  many
• 9:14
  of
• 9:15
  them
• 9:15
  came
• 9:15
  back
• 9:16
  in
• 9:16
  their
• 9:16
  30s
• 9:17
  realizing
• 9:17
  they
• 9:18
  would
• 9:18
  never
• 9:18
  top
• 9:19
  that
• 9:19
  mission
• 9:20
  and
• 9:21
  were
• 9:21
  ill
• 9:21
  equipped
• 9:22
  to,
• 9:22
  to
• 9:22
  express
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  poetry
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  their
• 9:24
  experience
• 9:25
  and
• 9:26
  were
• 9:26
  frustrated
• 9:27
  by
• 9:27
  that,
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  notion
• 9:28
  of
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  human
• 9:29
  component
• 9:30
  of
• 9:30
  space
• 9:30
  travel.
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  remember
• 9:32
  being
• 9:32
  at
• 9:32
  a
• 9:32
  lunch
• 9:32
  at
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  American
• 9:33
  Astronomical
• 9:34
  Society.
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  was
• 9:36
  surrounded
• 9:36
  by
• 9:36
  hundreds
• 9:37
  of
• 9:37
  astronomers
• 9:38
  and
• 9:38
  they
• 9:38
  were
• 9:39
  so
• 9:39
  dismissive
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  manned
• 9:41
  space
• 9:41
  program,
• 9:41
  saying,
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  know,
• 9:42
  they're
• 9:42
  taking
• 9:43
  all
• 9:43
  of
• 9:43
  our
• 9:43
  money.
• 9:44
  We
• 9:44
  could
• 9:44
  do
• 9:44
  this
• 9:44
  for
• 9:44
  10
• 9:45
  cents
• 9:45
  on
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  dollar.
• 9:46
  It's
• 9:46
  interesting
• 9:47
  that
• 9:47
  that
• 9:47
  hasn't
• 9:47
  ended.
• 9:48
  What
• 9:48
  I
• 9:49
  noticed
• 9:49
  on
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  NASA
• 9:50
  feed
• 9:50
  yesterday,
• 9:51
  the
• 9:51
  public
• 9:51
  affairs
• 9:52
  people
• 9:52
  who
• 9:52
  are
• 9:52
  doing
• 9:52
  play
• 9:53
  by
• 9:53
  play
• 9:53
  for
• 9:54
  watching
• 9:54
  on
• 9:54
  YouTube
• 9:55
  or
• 9:56
  wherever,
• 9:57
  almost
• 9:57
  every
• 9:57
  15
• 9:58
  minutes
• 9:58
  you
• 9:58
  hear
• 9:58
  the
• 9:59
  same
• 9:59
  thing.
• 9:59
  And
• 9:59
  this
• 10:00
  is
• 10:00
  something
• 10:00
  that
• 10:00
  could
• 10:00
  only
• 10:01
  be
• 10:01
  done
• 10:01
  with
• 10:01
  human
• 10:02
  eyes
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  human
• 10:02
  minds.
• 10:03
  This
• 10:04
  is
• 10:04
  just
• 10:04
  something
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  robots
• 10:05
  can't
• 10:05
  see.
• 10:05
  They
• 10:06
  can't
• 10:06
  do
• 10:06
  that.
• 10:06
  They
• 10:06
  can't
• 10:07
  anticipate
• 10:07
  that.
• 10:07
  And
• 10:08
  it
• 10:08
  got
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  point
• 10:08
  where
• 10:08
  at
• 10:08
  least
• 10:09
  it
• 10:09
  was
• 10:09
  too
• 10:09
  much
• 10:09
  on
• 10:09
  the
• 10:10
  nose.
• 10:10
  Is
• 10:11
  this
• 10:11
  because
• 10:11
  they're
• 10:12
  dealing
• 10:12
  with
• 10:13
  draconian
• 10:14
  budget
• 10:14
  cuts
• 10:15
  and
• 10:16
  terrible
• 10:16
  morale
• 10:16
  at
• 10:17
  NASA?
• 10:17
  They
• 10:18
  lost
• 10:18
  4,000
• 10:19
  civil
• 10:20
  servants
• 10:20
  last
• 10:20
  year
• 10:21
  and
• 10:21
  they
• 10:21
  each
• 10:21
  had
• 10:22
  an
• 10:22
  average
• 10:22
  tenure
• 10:22
  of
• 10:23
  20
• 10:23
  years.
• 10:23
  It
• 10:23
  was
• 10:24
  enormous
• 10:25
  brain
• 10:25
  drain.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:25
  NASA
• 10:26
  now
• 10:26
  is
• 10:26
  facing,
• 10:27
  thanks
• 10:27
  to
• 10:27
  Trump,
• 10:27
  a
• 10:28
  23%
• 10:28
  cut
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  its
• 10:29
  total
• 10:29
  budget
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  a
• 10:30
  nearly
• 10:30
  50%
• 10:31
  drop
• 10:31
  in
• 10:32
  funding
• 10:32
  for
• 10:32
  its
• 10:32
  science
• 10:33
  division.
• 10:34
  That's
• 10:34
  more
• 10:34
  than
• 10:34
  40
• 10:35
  projects
• 10:35
  being
• 10:35
  terminated.
• 10:36
  As
• 10:36
  one
• 10:37
  person,
• 10:37
  chief
• 10:37
  of
• 10:37
  space
• 10:38
  policy
• 10:38
  for
• 10:38
  the
• 10:39
  Planetary
• 10:39
  Society
• 10:40
  in
• 10:40
  Pasadena,
• 10:40
  said,
• 10:41
  it's
• 10:41
  an
• 10:41
  extinction
• 10:41
  level
• 10:42
  event
• 10:42
  for
• 10:42
  science.
• 10:43
  Or
• 10:44
  as
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  would
• 10:44
  say,
• 10:45
  NASA's
• 10:45
  in
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  cold,
• 10:46
  cold
• 10:47
  ground.
• 10:47
  What's
• 10:48
  your
• 10:48
  take
• 10:48
  on
• 10:48
  it
• 10:48
  all,
• 10:48
  Leonard?
• 10:49
  Well,
• 10:50
  there's
• 10:50
  a
• 10:50
  lot
• 10:50
  there.
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  mean,
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  think,
• 10:53
  I
• 10:53
  think
• 10:54
  the
• 10:54
  first
• 10:54
  thing
• 10:54
  is,
• 10:55
  yeah,
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  space
• 10:55
  science
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  human
• 10:57
  exploration
• 10:57
  has
• 10:58
  always
• 10:59
  been
• 10:59
  a,
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  know,
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  hull
• 11:01
  rubbing
• 11:02
  experience.
• 11:03
  They
• 11:03
  bounce
• 11:04
  off
• 11:04
  each
• 11:04
  other.
• 11:05
  There's
• 11:06
  attempts
• 11:06
  to
• 11:06
  try
• 11:06
  to
• 11:07
  bring
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  coalesce
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  two
• 11:08
  together.
• 11:09
  Space
• 11:09
  science,
• 11:10
  the
• 11:10
  classic
• 11:11
  line
• 11:12
  is
• 11:12
  always
• 11:12
  the
• 11:13
  last
• 11:14
  person
• 11:14
  on
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  moon.
• 11:15
  Jack
• 11:15
  Schmidt
• 11:16
  was
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  scientist
• 11:17
  and
• 11:18
  it
• 11:18
  was
• 11:18
  all
• 11:19
  that
• 11:20
  part
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  product
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  space
• 11:21
  race
• 11:22
  back
• 11:22
  in
• 11:22
  the
• 11:23
  60s
• 11:24
  produced
• 11:24
  good
• 11:25
  science
• 11:26
  once
• 11:27
  Jack
• 11:27
  got
• 11:27
  there.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:28
  a
• 11:28
  lot
• 11:28
  of
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  trained
• 11:29
  astronauts,
• 11:30
  David
• 11:30
  Scott
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  particular,
• 11:32
  who
• 11:32
  he
• 11:32
  was
• 11:32
  an
• 11:33
  astronaut
• 11:33
  on
• 11:34
  one
• 11:34
  of
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  earlier
• 11:34
  Apollo
• 11:35
  missions,
• 11:36
  they
• 11:36
  all
• 11:37
  got
• 11:37
  trained
• 11:37
  in
• 11:37
  geology,
• 11:39
  but
• 11:39
  you
• 11:39
  know,
• 11:39
  they're
• 11:39
  test
• 11:40
  pilots
• 11:40
  and
• 11:40
  they
• 11:41
  want
• 11:41
  to
• 11:41
  make
• 11:41
  sure
• 11:41
  they
• 11:41
  stick
• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  landing
• 11:42
  and
• 11:43
  hit
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  right
• 11:44
  on
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  nail.
• 11:45
  The
• 11:45
  thing
• 11:45
  that's
• 11:46
  worrisome,
• 11:47
  the
• 11:47
  new
• 11:48
  budget
• 11:48
  just
• 11:49
  came
• 11:49
  out
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  couple
• 11:50
  days
• 11:50
  ago
• 11:51
  from
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  omb,
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  Office
• 11:53
  of
• 11:54
  Management
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  Budget.
• 11:55
  And
• 11:56
  again,
• 11:56
  like
• 11:56
  you're
• 11:57
  saying,
• 11:57
  the
• 11:58
  budget
• 11:58
  cuts
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  space
• 11:59
  science
• 12:00
  is
• 12:00
  pretty
• 12:00
  severe
• 12:01
  and
• 12:02
  already
• 12:03
  arms
• 12:03
  are
• 12:03
  up
• 12:04
  and
• 12:04
  people
• 12:04
  are
• 12:05
  worried
• 12:05
  and
• 12:05
  this
• 12:06
  and
• 12:06
  that.
• 12:07
  Jared,
• 12:07
  the
• 12:08
  new
• 12:08
  NASA
• 12:08
  administrator
• 12:10
  is
• 12:10
  in
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  position,
• 12:12
  frankly,
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  don't
• 12:12
  know,
• 12:13
  I
• 12:13
  don't
• 12:13
  want
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  speak
• 12:13
  for
• 12:14
  him,
• 12:14
  but
• 12:15
  he's
• 12:15
  got
• 12:15
  to
• 12:15
  embrace
• 12:16
  the
• 12:16
  Trump
• 12:16
  administration's
• 12:17
  budget
• 12:18
  cut
• 12:19
  because
• 12:20
  on
• 12:20
  one
• 12:21
  hand,
• 12:21
  the
• 12:22
  Artemis
• 12:23
  moon
• 12:23
  exploration
• 12:24
  program
• 12:24
  and
• 12:25
  the
• 12:26
  lunar
• 12:26
  base
• 12:27
  that
• 12:27
  we
• 12:27
  want
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  put
• 12:28
  it
• 12:28
  there,
• 12:29
  it's
• 12:29
  got
• 12:30
  a
• 12:30
  pretty
• 12:30
  good
• 12:30
  chunk
• 12:31
  of
• 12:31
  money
• 12:31
  now.
• 12:32
  Also
• 12:32
  what
• 12:33
  got
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  lot
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  money
• 12:34
  is
• 12:34
  the
• 12:35
  Space
• 12:35
  Force.
• 12:36
  It
• 12:36
  got
• 12:36
  a
• 12:37
  big
• 12:37
  boost
• 12:37
  in
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  numbers
• 12:38
  that
• 12:38
  they
• 12:38
  want
• 12:39
  for
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  Space
• 12:39
  Force.
• 12:40
  What
• 12:40
  is
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  Space
• 12:41
  Force
• 12:41
  for
• 12:41
  people.
• 12:41
  Who
• 12:42
  are
• 12:42
  not
• 12:42
  acquainted,
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  military
• 12:44
  in
• 12:44
  space
• 12:45
  warfare
• 12:46
  group
• 12:47
  that
• 12:47
  wants
• 12:47
  to
• 12:48
  make
• 12:48
  sure
• 12:48
  we
• 12:48
  don't
• 12:49
  get
• 12:49
  attacked,
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  know,
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  golden
• 12:50
  dome
• 12:51
  anti
• 12:51
  ballistic
• 12:52
  missile
• 12:52
  system
• 12:53
  that
• 12:53
  Trump
• 12:53
  wants
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  put
• 12:54
  in
• 12:54
  place.
• 12:55
  There's
• 12:56
  a
• 12:56
  lot
• 12:56
  of
• 12:56
  finagling
• 12:57
  going
• 12:57
  on
• 12:57
  with
• 12:58
  that
• 12:58
  budget
• 12:58
  and
• 12:59
  a
• 12:59
  lot
• 12:59
  of
• 12:59
  it
• 12:59
  we
• 12:59
  don't
• 13:00
  know.
• 13:01
  The
• 13:01
  Space
• 13:01
  Force
• 13:02
  apparently
• 13:02
  is
• 13:02
  poised
• 13:03
  for
• 13:03
  an
• 13:03
  80%
• 13:04
  funding
• 13:04
  boost
• 13:04
  in
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  27
• 13:05
  budget.
• 13:06
  This
• 13:06
  is
• 13:06
  like
• 13:06
  to
• 13:07
  replace
• 13:07
  Star
• 13:08
  wars
• 13:09
  from
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  Reagan
• 13:10
  era,
• 13:10
  right?
• 13:10
  Yeah,
• 13:11
  to
• 13:11
  weaponize
• 13:11
  space,
• 13:12
  basically.
• 13:13
  That's
• 13:13
  funny
• 13:14
  when
• 13:14
  you
• 13:14
  bring
• 13:14
  that
• 13:14
  up
• 13:15
  because
• 13:15
  I,
• 13:15
  I
• 13:15
  remember
• 13:16
  when
• 13:16
  Reagan
• 13:17
  gave
• 13:17
  a
• 13:17
  talk
• 13:17
  in
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  White
• 13:18
  House
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  I'm
• 13:19
  sitting
• 13:20
  there
• 13:20
  at
• 13:20
  home
• 13:20
  and
• 13:21
  also,
• 13:21
  you
• 13:21
  know,
• 13:21
  I
• 13:22
  kind
• 13:22
  of
• 13:22
  half
• 13:23
  baked
• 13:23
  attention
• 13:24
  on
• 13:24
  it.
• 13:25
  And
• 13:25
  also
• 13:25
  he
• 13:26
  starts
• 13:26
  talking
• 13:26
  about
• 13:27
  Star
• 13:27
  wars
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  with
• 13:28
  some
• 13:29
  kind
• 13:29
  of
• 13:29
  shield
• 13:30
  system
• 13:30
  and.
• 13:31
  Right.
• 13:31
  And
• 13:32
  it
• 13:32
  was
• 13:32
  really
• 13:33
  surprising
• 13:34
  how
• 13:34
  that
• 13:35
  got
• 13:35
  enacted.
• 13:36
  And
• 13:37
  Strategic
• 13:38
  Defense
• 13:38
  Initiative,
• 13:39
  or
• 13:39
  known
• 13:40
  as
• 13:40
  sdi.
• 13:41
  Yeah,
• 13:41
  Space
• 13:42
  Defense
• 13:43
  Initiative.
• 13:43
  And
• 13:44
  what
• 13:44
  has
• 13:44
  happened,
• 13:45
  if
• 13:45
  you're
• 13:46
  a
• 13:46
  Space
• 13:46
  Force
• 13:47
  advocate,
• 13:48
  technology
• 13:49
  has
• 13:49
  definitely
• 13:50
  moved
• 13:50
  ahead.
• 13:51
  The
• 13:51
  plausibility
• 13:52
  of
• 13:52
  doing
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  layered
• 13:53
  defense
• 13:54
  and
• 13:54
  you
• 13:54
  know,
• 13:54
  even
• 13:54
  though
• 13:55
  it
• 13:55
  may
• 13:55
  be
• 13:55
  really
• 13:56
  super
• 13:56
  expensive,
• 13:58
  maybe
• 13:59
  in
• 13:59
  some
• 13:59
  corners
• 14:00
  more
• 14:00
  practical
• 14:01
  today
• 14:01
  than
• 14:01
  it
• 14:01
  was
• 14:02
  back
• 14:02
  when
• 14:02
  Reagan
• 14:03
  talked
• 14:03
  about
• 14:03
  it.
• 14:03
  So.
• 14:04
  Yeah.
• 14:04
  Right.
• 14:04
  Always
• 14:05
  keep
• 14:05
  an
• 14:05
  eye
• 14:06
  on
• 14:06
  that.
• 14:06
  And
• 14:06
  the
• 14:07
  companies
• 14:07
  that
• 14:08
  are
• 14:08
  engaged
• 14:09
  in
• 14:09
  civil
• 14:09
  and
• 14:10
  military
• 14:11
  space
• 14:11
  contracting,
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  big
• 14:13
  ones
• 14:13
  like
• 14:13
  Lockheed
• 14:14
  Martin
• 14:14
  and
• 14:14
  Grumman
• 14:15
  and
• 14:16
  name
• 14:16
  them
• 14:16
  all,
• 14:17
  that's
• 14:17
  a
• 14:18
  lot
• 14:18
  of
• 14:18
  money.
• 14:18
  They're
• 14:19
  going
• 14:19
  to
• 14:19
  be
• 14:19
  there.
• 14:19
  They
• 14:19
  got
• 14:19
  all
• 14:20
  kinds
• 14:20
  of
• 14:20
  ideas.
• 14:22
  They're
• 14:22
  Going
• 14:22
  to
• 14:22
  help
• 14:22
  you
• 14:22
  put
• 14:23
  in
• 14:23
  place
• 14:23
  whatever
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  want.
• 14:24
  It
• 14:24
  was
• 14:25
  so
• 14:25
  controversial
• 14:26
  even
• 14:26
  back
• 14:26
  then,
• 14:27
  this
• 14:27
  idea.
• 14:27
  I
• 14:28
  remember
• 14:28
  Edward
• 14:29
  Teller,
• 14:29
  who's
• 14:30
  considered
• 14:30
  the
• 14:31
  father
• 14:31
  of
• 14:31
  the
• 14:32
  hydrogen
• 14:32
  bomb,
• 14:33
  was
• 14:33
  a
• 14:33
  big
• 14:33
  advocate
• 14:33
  of
• 14:34
  sdi.
• 14:35
  He
• 14:35
  was
• 14:36
  an
• 14:36
  odd
• 14:36
  one.
• 14:36
  He
• 14:36
  walked
• 14:37
  around
• 14:37
  with
• 14:37
  a
• 14:38
  brick
• 14:38
  in
• 14:38
  his
• 14:38
  briefcase.
• 14:39
  Did
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  know
• 14:40
  that?
• 14:40
  Was.
• 14:41
  He
• 14:41
  had
• 14:42
  a
• 14:42
  cane.
• 14:42
  He
• 14:43
  was
• 14:43
  an
• 14:43
  odd
• 14:43
  one.
• 14:44
  Well,
• 14:44
  wait
• 14:44
  a
• 14:44
  minute.
• 14:44
  Why
• 14:45
  did
• 14:45
  he
• 14:45
  walk
• 14:45
  around
• 14:45
  with
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  brick
• 14:46
  in
• 14:46
  his
• 14:46
  suitcase?
• 14:47
  Exercise,
• 14:48
  no
• 14:48
  briefcase.
• 14:48
  And
• 14:49
  I
• 14:49
  didn't
• 14:49
  ask.
• 14:50
  You
• 14:50
  didn't
• 14:50
  ask?
• 14:51
  No.
• 14:52
  It
• 14:52
  wasn't
• 14:52
  a
• 14:52
  brick
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  marijuana.
• 14:53
  It
• 14:54
  was
• 14:54
  Edward
• 14:54
  Teller.
• 14:55
  Wait
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  minute.
• 14:56
  So
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  know
• 14:56
  Teller
• 14:57
  in
• 14:57
  Penn.
• 14:58
  And
• 14:58
  Teller
• 14:58
  doesn't
• 14:59
  speak.
• 14:59
  So
• 15:00
  is
• 15:00
  that
• 15:00
  his.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  remember
• 15:03
  how
• 15:03
  some
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  astronauts
• 15:04
  were
• 15:04
  just
• 15:04
  appalled.
• 15:05
  In
• 15:05
  particular,
• 15:05
  Edgar
• 15:06
  Mitchell,
• 15:06
  who
• 15:07
  was
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  sixth
• 15:07
  man
• 15:07
  on
• 15:07
  the
• 15:08
  moon,
• 15:08
  Apollo
• 15:08
  14.
• 15:09
  Probably
• 15:09
  the
• 15:10
  most
• 15:10
  intellectually
• 15:11
  interesting
• 15:12
  astronaut,
• 15:12
  in
• 15:12
  my
• 15:13
  opinion,
• 15:13
  at
• 15:13
  least
• 15:13
  of
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  ones
• 15:14
  I
• 15:14
  knew.
• 15:14
  He
• 15:15
  was
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  one
• 15:15
  that
• 15:15
  did
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  remote
• 15:15
  viewing
• 15:16
  experiment
• 15:16
  from
• 15:16
  the
• 15:17
  moon.
• 15:17
  He
• 15:17
  was
• 15:18
  considered
• 15:18
  insane
• 15:19
  by
• 15:19
  some
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  his
• 15:20
  bosses
• 15:20
  and
• 15:21
  colleagues.
• 15:21
  They
• 15:21
  told
• 15:21
  me
• 15:21
  themselves,
• 15:22
  and
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  don't
• 15:23
  think
• 15:23
  he
• 15:23
  was
• 15:23
  at
• 15:24
  all.
• 15:24
  He
• 15:24
  wrote
• 15:25
  a
• 15:25
  book
• 15:25
  back
• 15:25
  then,
• 15:26
  when
• 15:26
  the
• 15:27
  Foxes
• 15:27
  Guard
• 15:27
  the
• 15:28
  Hen
• 15:28
  House,
• 15:28
  and
• 15:29
  he
• 15:29
  said,
• 15:29
  what
• 15:29
  would
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  species
• 15:30
  outside
• 15:31
  Earth
• 15:32
  think
• 15:32
  of
• 15:33
  a
• 15:33
  species
• 15:33
  like
• 15:34
  ours
• 15:34
  who
• 15:35
  finally
• 15:35
  was
• 15:35
  able
• 15:36
  to
• 15:36
  evolve
• 15:36
  off
• 15:37
  the
• 15:37
  planet?
• 15:38
  And
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  first
• 15:38
  thing
• 15:38
  they
• 15:39
  did
• 15:39
  was
• 15:39
  aim
• 15:40
  weapons
• 15:40
  back
• 15:40
  at
• 15:41
  itself.
• 15:42
  Right.
• 15:43
  It
• 15:44
  was
• 15:44
  not
• 15:44
  financially
• 15:45
  viable
• 15:46
  and
• 15:46
  it
• 15:46
  never
• 15:47
  happened.
• 15:48
  Let
• 15:48
  me
• 15:48
  get
• 15:48
  back
• 15:48
  to
• 15:49
  something
• 15:49
  you
• 15:49
  mentioned
• 15:49
  I
• 15:50
  think
• 15:50
  is
• 15:50
  really
• 15:50
  important.
• 15:51
  Frank
• 15:52
  White
• 15:52
  was
• 15:52
  the
• 15:53
  guy
• 15:53
  that
• 15:53
  really
• 15:53
  coined
• 15:54
  the
• 15:54
  term
• 15:54
  overview
• 15:55
  effect.
• 15:56
  And
• 15:56
  you
• 15:56
  saw
• 15:56
  that
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  4
• 15:58
  Orion,
• 15:59
  Artemis
• 16:00
  2
• 16:00
  crew.
• 16:01
  There's
• 16:02
  definitely
• 16:02
  something
• 16:03
  that
• 16:03
  happens
• 16:03
  and
• 16:04
  they
• 16:04
  have
• 16:04
  a
• 16:05
  view
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  Earth
• 16:06
  that
• 16:06
  very
• 16:06
  few
• 16:06
  have
• 16:07
  had.
• 16:08
  And
• 16:08
  you
• 16:09
  can.
• 16:09
  It's
• 16:09
  kind
• 16:09
  of
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  a
• 16:10
  full
• 16:10
  drive
• 16:11
  mode
• 16:12
  when
• 16:12
  you
• 16:12
  look
• 16:13
  out.
• 16:14
  And
• 16:14
  yeah,
• 16:15
  it's
• 16:15
  a
• 16:15
  little
• 16:15
  hard
• 16:15
  for
• 16:15
  the
• 16:16
  robots
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  communicate
• 16:17
  that,
• 16:17
  but
• 16:17
  when
• 16:18
  you
• 16:18
  have
• 16:18
  humans
• 16:19
  doing
• 16:19
  it
• 16:19
  and
• 16:19
  crying
• 16:20
  at
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  same
• 16:20
  time,
• 16:21
  that
• 16:22
  is
• 16:23
  very
• 16:23
  powerful.
• 16:24
  Now,
• 16:24
  how
• 16:24
  that
• 16:25
  reflects
• 16:25
  back
• 16:25
  here
• 16:26
  on
• 16:26
  Earth.
• 16:26
  And
• 16:26
  I
• 16:27
  think
• 16:27
  it
• 16:27
  may
• 16:27
  for
• 16:28
  a
• 16:28
  lot
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  people,
• 16:29
  that's
• 16:29
  great.
• 16:30
  That's
• 16:31
  a
• 16:31
  very
• 16:32
  important
• 16:32
  element
• 16:33
  of
• 16:33
  this.
• 16:33
  And
• 16:33
  again,
• 16:34
  Frank
• 16:35
  White
• 16:35
  I've
• 16:36
  known
• 16:36
  for
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  long,
• 16:36
  long
• 16:37
  time,
• 16:37
  and
• 16:38
  I
• 16:38
  always
• 16:38
  hate
• 16:39
  him
• 16:39
  because
• 16:40
  any
• 16:41
  reporter
• 16:41
  or
• 16:41
  writer
• 16:42
  that
• 16:42
  can
• 16:43
  get
• 16:43
  something
• 16:43
  coined
• 16:44
  that
• 16:45
  has
• 16:45
  so
• 16:45
  much
• 16:46
  longevity,
• 16:47
  you.
• 16:47
  Oh,
• 16:48
  God,
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  wish
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  would
• 16:49
  have.
• 16:49
  Thought
• 16:49
  that
• 16:50
  we
• 16:50
  were
• 16:50
  talking
• 16:50
  earlier
• 16:51
  about
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  lack
• 16:52
  of
• 16:52
  poetry
• 16:53
  in
• 16:53
  the
• 16:54
  descriptions
• 16:55
  of
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  experience
• 16:57
  by
• 16:57
  the
• 16:58
  mainly
• 16:59
  heroic
• 17:00
  engineers
• 17:01
  from
• 17:01
  our
• 17:01
  country.
• 17:02
  But
• 17:02
  in
• 17:02
  the
• 17:03
  Soviet
• 17:03
  Union,
• 17:04
  which
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  Russians
• 17:05
  are
• 17:05
  a
• 17:06
  very
• 17:06
  poetic
• 17:06
  people.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:07
  I
• 17:08
  remember
• 17:08
  one
• 17:08
  of
• 17:08
  the
• 17:08
  things
• 17:08
  that
• 17:09
  stuck
• 17:09
  to
• 17:09
  me
• 17:09
  was
• 17:10
  that
• 17:10
  when
• 17:10
  Yuri
• 17:11
  Gagarin
• 17:12
  was
• 17:12
  among
• 17:12
  the
• 17:13
  first
• 17:13
  men
• 17:13
  in
• 17:13
  space,
• 17:14
  his
• 17:15
  first
• 17:15
  communique
• 17:16
  Back
• 17:16
  to
• 17:16
  the
• 17:17
  Earth
• 17:17
  was
• 17:18
  ya?
• 17:18
  Are
• 17:19
  you
• 17:19
  all?
• 17:19
  Which
• 17:20
  means
• 17:20
  I
• 17:21
  am
• 17:21
  an
• 17:21
  eagle.
• 17:24
  That's
• 17:24
  always
• 17:24
  struck
• 17:25
  me
• 17:25
  what
• 17:25
  a
• 17:26
  beautiful
• 17:26
  thing
• 17:26
  to
• 17:26
  say
• 17:28
  looking
• 17:28
  down
• 17:28
  on
• 17:28
  the
• 17:28
  Earth
• 17:29
  from
• 17:29
  space.
• 17:29
  I
• 17:30
  think
• 17:30
  one
• 17:30
  thing,
• 17:30
  you
• 17:31
  know,
• 17:31
  that
• 17:32
  we
• 17:32
  kind
• 17:32
  of
• 17:32
  again,
• 17:32
  forget
• 17:33
  because
• 17:33
  it's
• 17:34
  become
• 17:35
  commonplace,
• 17:35
  is
• 17:36
  you've
• 17:36
  got
• 17:36
  an
• 17:37
  International
• 17:37
  Space
• 17:38
  Station
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  you
• 17:39
  have
• 17:39
  cosmonauts
• 17:40
  there
• 17:40
  and
• 17:41
  U.S.
• 17:42
  astronauts
• 17:43
  and
• 17:43
  Japanese
• 17:44
  astronauts
• 17:45
  and
• 17:45
  a
• 17:45
  lot
• 17:45
  of
• 17:45
  other
• 17:46
  countries.
• 17:46
  So
• 17:46
  international.
• 17:47
  That's
• 17:48
  right,
• 17:48
  the
• 17:48
  International.
• 17:49
  And
• 17:49
  you
• 17:49
  know,
• 17:50
  they
• 17:50
  come
• 17:50
  back
• 17:51
  with
• 17:51
  interesting
• 17:52
  and
• 17:52
  photographically
• 17:54
  interesting
• 17:55
  images
• 17:55
  of
• 17:55
  the
• 17:56
  Earth,
• 17:56
  indeed.
• 17:57
  Things
• 17:57
  they
• 17:57
  worry
• 17:58
  about.
• 17:58
  There's
• 17:59
  something
• 17:59
  about
• 17:59
  being
• 18:00
  in
• 18:00
  space
• 18:00
  that
• 18:00
  definitely
• 18:02
  drives
• 18:02
  the
• 18:03
  poetic
• 18:03
  license
• 18:04
  out
• 18:04
  of
• 18:04
  all
• 18:05
  of
• 18:05
  us
• 18:05
  to
• 18:06
  really
• 18:06
  try
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  communicate
• 18:07
  that
• 18:07
  back
• 18:07
  to
• 18:07
  other
• 18:08
  people.
• 18:08
  Like
• 18:09
  you
• 18:09
  said,
• 18:09
  test
• 18:10
  pilots,
• 18:10
  they
• 18:10
  got
• 18:10
  a
• 18:11
  checklist
• 18:11
  and.
• 18:12
  Right.
• 18:12
  Unlike
• 18:13
  you,
• 18:13
  I've
• 18:13
  talked
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  a
• 18:14
  lot
• 18:14
  of
• 18:14
  astronauts
• 18:15
  and
• 18:15
  you
• 18:15
  know,
• 18:16
  some
• 18:16
  of
• 18:16
  them
• 18:17
  have
• 18:17
  an
• 18:18
  overview
• 18:18
  effect.
• 18:18
  They're
• 18:19
  so
• 18:19
  busy
• 18:19
  trying
• 18:19
  to
• 18:20
  checklist
• 18:20
  what,
• 18:21
  you
• 18:21
  know,
• 18:21
  their
• 18:21
  orders
• 18:22
  that
• 18:22
  they
• 18:22
  got
• 18:23
  to
• 18:23
  do,
• 18:24
  they
• 18:24
  don't
• 18:24
  have
• 18:25
  a
• 18:25
  time
• 18:25
  to
• 18:26
  look
• 18:26
  out
• 18:27
  and
• 18:27
  to
• 18:27
  perceive
• 18:28
  what
• 18:28
  they're
• 18:28
  perceiving.
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  interviewed
• 18:30
  one
• 18:30
  of
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  Apollo
• 18:31
  13
• 18:31
  astronauts
• 18:32
  and
• 18:32
  he
• 18:33
  was
• 18:33
  so
• 18:33
  cynical.
• 18:34
  I
• 18:34
  mean,
• 18:34
  they
• 18:34
  almost
• 18:34
  died
• 18:35
  on
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  mission.
• 18:35
  I
• 18:36
  don't
• 18:36
  think
• 18:36
  many
• 18:36
  people
• 18:36
  know
• 18:37
  just
• 18:37
  how
• 18:37
  dire
• 18:37
  it
• 18:37
  was
• 18:38
  for
• 18:38
  them.
• 18:38
  And
• 18:39
  I
• 18:39
  said,
• 18:39
  well,
• 18:39
  you
• 18:39
  still
• 18:40
  got
• 18:40
  around
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  moon,
• 18:41
  which
• 18:41
  is
• 18:41
  actually
• 18:42
  close
• 18:42
  to
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  route
• 18:43
  that
• 18:43
  Artemis
• 18:43
  has
• 18:43
  taken.
• 18:44
  I
• 18:44
  said,
• 18:44
  you
• 18:45
  must
• 18:45
  have
• 18:45
  looked
• 18:45
  out
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  window.
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  mean,
• 18:46
  there
• 18:46
  must
• 18:46
  have
• 18:46
  been
• 18:46
  something
• 18:47
  great
• 18:47
  about
• 18:47
  that.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:48
  he
• 18:49
  said
• 18:49
  to
• 18:49
  me,
• 18:49
  nah,
• 18:50
  space
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  me
• 18:50
  is
• 18:50
  just
• 18:51
  another
• 18:51
  few
• 18:51
  numbers
• 18:51
  on
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  altimeter.
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  was
• 18:52
  like,
• 18:53
  oh,
• 18:53
  you
• 18:53
  poor
• 18:53
  bastard.
• 18:54
  You
• 18:55
  went
• 18:55
  to
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  moon
• 18:55
  and
• 18:55
  you
• 18:56
  didn't
• 18:56
  even
• 18:56
  see
• 18:56
  it.
• 18:57
  That's
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  way
• 18:58
  it
• 18:58
  is.
• 18:59
  It's
• 18:59
  nice
• 19:00
  to
• 19:00
  see
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  euphoric
• 19:01
  nature
• 19:01
  of
• 19:02
  people
• 19:02
  getting
• 19:03
  reconnected
• 19:04
  with
• 19:04
  the
• 19:05
  moon
• 19:06
  through
• 19:06
  human
• 19:06
  eyes
• 19:07
  and
• 19:07
  their
• 19:07
  experience.
• 19:08
  But
• 19:08
  we
• 19:09
  got
• 19:09
  a
• 19:09
  long
• 19:09
  way
• 19:09
  to
• 19:10
  go.
• 19:11
  The
• 19:11
  way
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  Artemis
• 19:12
  program
• 19:12
  has
• 19:13
  now
• 19:14
  been
• 19:14
  rejiggered
• 19:15
  is
• 19:15
  going
• 19:15
  to
• 19:16
  be
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  real
• 19:16
  competitive
• 19:18
  thing
• 19:18
  of
• 19:19
  companies.
• 19:20
  SpaceX,
• 19:20
  Jeff
• 19:21
  Bezos,
• 19:22
  Amazon
• 19:23
  the
• 19:24
  last
• 19:24
  time
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  looked,
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  get
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  moon,
• 19:26
  you
• 19:27
  need
• 19:27
  a
• 19:27
  lander.
• 19:28
  We
• 19:28
  don't
• 19:29
  have
• 19:29
  a
• 19:29
  lander.
• 19:29
  There
• 19:30
  is
• 19:30
  no
• 19:30
  lander.
• 19:31
  That's
• 19:31
  right.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:32
  there's
• 19:32
  also
• 19:32
  no
• 19:32
  spacesuits
• 19:33
  for
• 19:33
  walking
• 19:34
  on
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  moon
• 19:34
  made
• 19:34
  yet.
• 19:35
  They're
• 19:35
  having
• 19:35
  a
• 19:36
  rough
• 19:36
  go
• 19:36
  of
• 19:37
  it,
• 19:37
  but
• 19:37
  they
• 19:37
  may
• 19:38
  be
• 19:38
  out
• 19:38
  of
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  woods
• 19:38
  on
• 19:39
  that.
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  don't
• 19:39
  know.
• 19:39
  Again,
• 19:40
  Jared
• 19:40
  Isaacman
• 19:41
  has
• 19:41
  got
• 19:41
  to
• 19:42
  take
• 19:42
  off
• 19:42
  all
• 19:42
  that
• 19:42
  on,
• 19:44
  and
• 19:44
  it
• 19:45
  looks
• 19:45
  like
• 19:45
  he's
• 19:45
  doing
• 19:45
  a
• 19:45
  good
• 19:46
  job.
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  just
• 19:46
  talked
• 19:47
  to
• 19:47
  an
• 19:47
  ex
• 19:47
  astronaut
• 19:48
  a
• 19:48
  couple
• 19:48
  days
• 19:49
  ago
• 19:49
  and
• 19:50
  she
• 19:50
  was
• 19:51
  really
• 19:51
  concerned
• 19:52
  about
• 19:52
  the
• 19:53
  timelines
• 19:53
  that
• 19:54
  he's
• 19:54
  projecting
• 19:55
  that
• 19:55
  it's
• 19:56
  one
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  those
• 19:56
  inter.
• 19:57
  Miracle
• 19:57
  here
• 19:58
  kind
• 19:58
  of
• 19:58
  thing.
• 19:59
  Because
• 19:59
  there'll
• 19:59
  be
• 20:00
  a
• 20:00
  problem.
• 20:00
  They're
• 20:00
  going
• 20:00
  to
• 20:01
  be
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  snafu.
• 20:02
  There
• 20:02
  will
• 20:03
  be
• 20:03
  an
• 20:03
  Apollo
• 20:03
  13
• 20:04
  type
• 20:04
  event.
• 20:04
  There'll
• 20:05
  be
• 20:05
  something.
• 20:06
  Well,
• 20:06
  it
• 20:07
  is
• 20:07
  a
• 20:07
  test
• 20:07
  flight
• 20:08
  in
• 20:08
  some
• 20:08
  ways.
• 20:09
  Going
• 20:09
  around
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  moon
• 20:09
  the
• 20:10
  way
• 20:10
  they
• 20:10
  are
• 20:10
  is
• 20:11
  sort
• 20:11
  of
• 20:11
  a
• 20:11
  conservative
• 20:12
  move,
• 20:12
  even
• 20:13
  though
• 20:13
  they're
• 20:13
  accelerating
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  program
• 20:14
  fast.
• 20:15
  People
• 20:15
  are
• 20:15
  comparing
• 20:16
  Artemis
• 20:17
  2
• 20:17
  to
• 20:17
  the
• 20:17
  Apollo
• 20:18
  8
• 20:18
  mission,
• 20:18
  which
• 20:19
  was
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  first
• 20:20
  mission
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  left
• 20:20
  Earth
• 20:21
  orbit
• 20:21
  to
• 20:21
  lunar
• 20:22
  orbit
• 20:22
  and
• 20:23
  then
• 20:23
  came
• 20:23
  back.
• 20:24
  And
• 20:24
  Artemis
• 20:25
  2
• 20:25
  did
• 20:26
  not
• 20:26
  even
• 20:26
  do
• 20:26
  that.
• 20:27
  They
• 20:27
  went
• 20:28
  what
• 20:28
  Apollo
• 20:28
  13
• 20:29
  had
• 20:29
  to
• 20:30
  do
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  get
• 20:30
  back,
• 20:30
  which
• 20:31
  was
• 20:31
  use
• 20:32
  celestial
• 20:32
  mechanics
• 20:33
  and
• 20:33
  gravity
• 20:33
  fields.
• 20:34
  So
• 20:35
  they
• 20:35
  protected
• 20:36
  themselves
• 20:36
  with
• 20:36
  the
• 20:37
  Artemis
• 20:37
  to
• 20:38
  go
• 20:38
  out
• 20:38
  far
• 20:39
  like
• 20:39
  that
• 20:39
  because
• 20:40
  eventually
• 20:40
  the
• 20:40
  Earth
• 20:41
  would
• 20:41
  pull
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  crew
• 20:42
  back.
• 20:42
  So
• 20:42
  even
• 20:42
  if
• 20:43
  their
• 20:43
  engine
• 20:43
  failed,
• 20:44
  they
• 20:44
  would
• 20:45
  have
• 20:45
  a
• 20:45
  much
• 20:45
  better
• 20:45
  chance
• 20:46
  of
• 20:46
  getting
• 20:46
  back
• 20:46
  to
• 20:47
  Earth
• 20:47
  because
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  moon
• 20:48
  and
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  Earth's
• 20:48
  gravity
• 20:49
  would
• 20:49
  keep
• 20:50
  it
• 20:50
  on
• 20:50
  course.
• 20:52
  So
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  was
• 20:52
  a
• 20:52
  pretty
• 20:52
  conservative
• 20:53
  move,
• 20:53
  right?
• 20:54
  Or
• 20:54
  what
• 20:54
  am
• 20:54
  I
• 20:54
  missing?
• 20:55
  Yeah,
• 20:55
  no,
• 20:55
  you're
• 20:56
  right
• 20:56
  again.
• 20:57
  Jared,
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  new
• 20:58
  NASA
• 20:58
  administrator
• 20:59
  has
• 20:59
  really
• 20:59
  tried
• 21:00
  to
• 21:01
  express
• 21:01
  the
• 21:02
  hope
• 21:02
  that
• 21:02
  there's
• 21:03
  a
• 21:03
  new
• 21:03
  cadence
• 21:04
  with
• 21:04
  these
• 21:05
  missions,
• 21:05
  that
• 21:06
  we
• 21:06
  can
• 21:06
  accelerate
• 21:07
  flights.
• 21:08
  Because
• 21:09
  there
• 21:09
  was
• 21:09
  a
• 21:10
  several
• 21:10
  year
• 21:10
  delay
• 21:11
  between
• 21:11
  Artemis
• 21:12
  I
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  Artemis
• 21:13
  ii.
• 21:14
  And
• 21:14
  some
• 21:15
  people
• 21:15
  claim
• 21:15
  that's
• 21:16
  why
• 21:16
  when
• 21:17
  they
• 21:17
  did
• 21:17
  the
• 21:17
  wet
• 21:18
  dress
• 21:18
  rehearsal
• 21:19
  with
• 21:19
  peels
• 21:20
  and
• 21:20
  everything
• 21:21
  on
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  launch
• 21:21
  pad
• 21:22
  for
• 21:22
  Artemis
• 21:22
  ii,
• 21:22
  things
• 21:23
  fell
• 21:23
  apart.
• 21:24
  You
• 21:24
  got
• 21:24
  to
• 21:24
  keep
• 21:24
  the
• 21:25
  cadence
• 21:25
  going
• 21:26
  not
• 21:26
  only
• 21:26
  for
• 21:26
  the
• 21:27
  technology,
• 21:27
  but
• 21:28
  also
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  people,
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  mission
• 21:30
  control
• 21:31
  people,
• 21:31
  the
• 21:32
  astronauts,
• 21:33
  everybody
• 21:33
  that's
• 21:34
  involved
• 21:34
  in
• 21:34
  that.
• 21:35
  And
• 21:36
  having
• 21:36
  the
• 21:37
  kind
• 21:37
  of
• 21:37
  a
• 21:37
  sluggish
• 21:38
  space
• 21:39
  program
• 21:39
  that
• 21:40
  doesn't
• 21:40
  have
• 21:41
  a
• 21:41
  every
• 21:42
  year
• 21:42
  kind
• 21:42
  of
• 21:42
  flight.
• 21:43
  I
• 21:43
  mean,
• 21:43
  I'm
• 21:43
  a
• 21:44
  kid
• 21:44
  that
• 21:44
  went
• 21:44
  through
• 21:45
  Mercury
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  Gemini,
• 21:46
  particularly
• 21:47
  Gemini.
• 21:47
  My
• 21:48
  God,
• 21:48
  they
• 21:48
  were
• 21:48
  launching
• 21:49
  like
• 21:49
  every
• 21:49
  hour.
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  don't
• 21:50
  know,
• 21:51
  it
• 21:51
  seemed
• 21:51
  like
• 21:51
  I
• 21:51
  was
• 21:52
  watching,
• 21:52
  I
• 21:52
  was
• 21:52
  glued
• 21:53
  every
• 21:54
  flight.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:55
  you
• 21:55
  know,
• 21:55
  we
• 21:55
  pulled
• 21:55
  off
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  lot
• 21:56
  of
• 21:56
  Gemini
• 21:57
  missions
• 21:58
  between
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  Mercury
• 21:59
  and
• 21:59
  the
• 21:59
  Apollo
• 22:00
  program
• 22:00
  that
• 22:00
  we're.
• 22:01
  They
• 22:01
  were
• 22:01
  seminal.
• 22:02
  That's
• 22:02
  what
• 22:02
  happens
• 22:03
  when
• 22:03
  you
• 22:03
  have
• 22:03
  a
• 22:03
  dead
• 22:03
  president
• 22:04
  that
• 22:04
  gave
• 22:04
  a
• 22:04
  deadline
• 22:05
  at
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  end
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  decade.
• 22:06
  That's
• 22:07
  really
• 22:07
  what
• 22:07
  kept
• 22:07
  it
• 22:08
  going
• 22:08
  in
• 22:08
  so
• 22:08
  many
• 22:08
  ways.
• 22:09
  And
• 22:09
  that
• 22:10
  was
• 22:10
  an
• 22:10
  inspired
• 22:11
  movement
• 22:12
  at
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  time.
• 22:13
  We're
• 22:13
  talking
• 22:13
  to
• 22:14
  Leonard
• 22:14
  David,
• 22:14
  our
• 22:15
  space
• 22:15
  journalist
• 22:15
  friend
• 22:16
  here
• 22:16
  on
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  Sexy
• 22:17
  Boomer
• 22:17
  show.
• 22:18
  Let's
• 22:18
  nerd
• 22:18
  out
• 22:19
  a
• 22:19
  little
• 22:19
  bit
• 22:19
  on
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  technology.
• 22:20
  I
• 22:20
  have
• 22:21
  been
• 22:21
  so
• 22:21
  amazed
• 22:22
  by
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  advancements
• 22:23
  in
• 22:23
  50,
• 22:24
  what,
• 22:24
  three
• 22:24
  years
• 22:25
  of
• 22:25
  going
• 22:25
  to
• 22:25
  the
• 22:26
  moon.
• 22:26
  I
• 22:26
  think
• 22:26
  one
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  the
• 22:26
  things
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  blew
• 22:27
  me
• 22:27
  away
• 22:27
  was
• 22:27
  that
• 22:28
  we
• 22:28
  were
• 22:28
  watching
• 22:29
  high
• 22:29
  definition
• 22:30
  television
• 22:30
  images
• 22:31
  of
• 22:32
  these
• 22:32
  folks
• 22:33
  going
• 22:33
  behind
• 22:33
  the
• 22:34
  moon
• 22:34
  with
• 22:35
  The
• 22:35
  Earth
• 22:35
  setting
• 22:36
  on
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  other
• 22:36
  side
• 22:37
  of
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  moon
• 22:37
  just
• 22:37
  before
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  signal
• 22:38
  cutout
• 22:39
  because
• 22:39
  it's
• 22:39
  line
• 22:39
  of
• 22:40
  sight.
• 22:40
  They're
• 22:40
  using
• 22:41
  this
• 22:41
  brand
• 22:41
  new
• 22:41
  system
• 22:42
  called
• 22:42
  optical
• 22:43
  communication
• 22:43
  system.
• 22:44
  It's
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  laser
• 22:45
  system,
• 22:46
  not
• 22:46
  that
• 22:46
  it
• 22:47
  would
• 22:47
  do
• 22:47
  any
• 22:47
  good,
• 22:47
  but
• 22:47
  there's
• 22:47
  no
• 22:48
  AT&T
• 22:48
  up
• 22:49
  there.
• 22:49
  And
• 22:49
  it's
• 22:50
  out
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  range
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  the
• 22:51
  gps,
• 22:51
  which
• 22:51
  is
• 22:52
  what
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  space
• 22:52
  station
• 22:53
  can
• 22:53
  use.
• 22:53
  It's
• 22:53
  really
• 22:54
  out
• 22:54
  there.
• 22:54
  So
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  only
• 22:55
  way
• 22:55
  they
• 22:55
  could
• 22:55
  get
• 22:56
  high
• 22:56
  definition
• 22:57
  signals
• 22:57
  was
• 22:57
  they're
• 22:58
  using
• 22:58
  lasers
• 22:59
  that
• 22:59
  send
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  information
• 23:01
  they're
• 23:02
  trying
• 23:02
  to
• 23:02
  get
• 23:02
  to
• 23:02
  like
• 23:02
  110
• 23:03
  megabytes
• 23:03
  a
• 23:04
  second
• 23:04
  of
• 23:04
  data
• 23:05
  speed.
• 23:05
  That's
• 23:05
  amazing.
• 23:06
  There's
• 23:07
  only
• 23:07
  three
• 23:07
  sites
• 23:07
  on
• 23:08
  Earth
• 23:08
  that
• 23:08
  are
• 23:08
  receiving
• 23:09
  these
• 23:09
  television
• 23:10
  signals.
• 23:10
  White
• 23:11
  Sands
• 23:11
  somewhere
• 23:12
  here
• 23:12
  in
• 23:12
  California,
• 23:13
  and
• 23:13
  a
• 23:14
  test
• 23:14
  set
• 23:14
  up
• 23:14
  in
• 23:15
  Australia
• 23:15
  somewhere.
• 23:16
  But
• 23:16
  just
• 23:16
  this
• 23:17
  optical
• 23:17
  comm
• 23:17
  system
• 23:18
  is
• 23:18
  astounding.
• 23:19
  You
• 23:19
  know,
• 23:20
  Ted,
• 23:20
  I
• 23:20
  actually
• 23:20
  call
• 23:21
  it
• 23:21
  an
• 23:21
  optical
• 23:22
  con
• 23:23
  system
• 23:23
  because,
• 23:24
  you
• 23:24
  know,
• 23:24
  just
• 23:25
  as
• 23:25
  they
• 23:25
  faked
• 23:25
  the
• 23:26
  moon
• 23:26
  landing.
• 23:26
  Yeah,
• 23:26
  yeah.
• 23:27
  Really
• 23:27
  black
• 23:27
  and
• 23:28
  white,
• 23:28
  really
• 23:29
  cruddy
• 23:30
  slow
• 23:30
  motion.
• 23:31
  Now
• 23:31
  we
• 23:31
  got
• 23:31
  CGI
• 23:33
  and
• 23:33
  all
• 23:33
  this
• 23:33
  laser
• 23:34
  technology.
• 23:35
  It
• 23:35
  really
• 23:36
  looks
• 23:36
  real.
• 23:36
  You
• 23:37
  know
• 23:37
  what's
• 23:37
  really
• 23:37
  cool
• 23:38
  too
• 23:38
  is
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  amount
• 23:38
  of
• 23:39
  data
• 23:39
  that's
• 23:39
  going
• 23:39
  back
• 23:39
  and
• 23:40
  forth
• 23:40
  is
• 23:40
  allowing
• 23:41
  real
• 23:41
  time
• 23:41
  science
• 23:42
  evaluation.
• 23:42
  And
• 23:42
  they
• 23:43
  have
• 23:43
  this
• 23:43
  cool
• 23:43
  room
• 23:44
  down
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  hall
• 23:45
  from
• 23:45
  mission
• 23:45
  control
• 23:45
  in
• 23:46
  Houston
• 23:46
  called
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  science
• 23:47
  evaluation
• 23:48
  room.
• 23:48
  It's
• 23:48
  a
• 23:49
  control
• 23:49
  room
• 23:49
  and
• 23:49
  it's
• 23:50
  just
• 23:50
  filled
• 23:50
  with
• 23:50
  scientists
• 23:51
  in
• 23:52
  real
• 23:52
  time
• 23:52
  talking
• 23:53
  to
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  crew
• 23:53
  and
• 23:54
  guiding
• 23:54
  them
• 23:54
  through
• 23:55
  their
• 23:55
  science
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  helping
• 23:56
  them
• 23:56
  analyze
• 23:57
  it.
• 23:57
  This
• 23:57
  is
• 23:58
  all
• 23:58
  new.
• 23:58
  This
• 23:58
  is
• 23:59
  pretty
• 23:59
  amazing.
• 23:59
  This
• 23:59
  is
• 24:00
  like
• 24:00
  talking
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  Lewis
• 24:00
  and
• 24:00
  Clark
• 24:01
  in
• 24:01
  real
• 24:01
  life
• 24:01
  when
• 24:02
  they
• 24:02
  were
• 24:02
  out
• 24:02
  on
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  frontier.
• 24:03
  There's
• 24:03
  so
• 24:03
  much
• 24:03
  to
• 24:04
  marvel
• 24:04
  at
• 24:04
  what's
• 24:04
  happening
• 24:05
  here.
• 24:05
  The
• 24:06
  fact
• 24:06
  that
• 24:06
  NASA's
• 24:07
  only
• 24:07
  built
• 24:07
  seven
• 24:08
  spacecraft
• 24:09
  systems
• 24:09
  in
• 24:10
  all
• 24:10
  its
• 24:10
  history,
• 24:10
  including
• 24:11
  Mercury
• 24:11
  and,
• 24:12
  you
• 24:12
  know,
• 24:12
  Gemini
• 24:12
  and
• 24:13
  Apollo
• 24:13
  and
• 24:13
  Artemis
• 24:14
  system
• 24:14
  is
• 24:15
  only
• 24:15
  the
• 24:15
  seventh
• 24:15
  one.
• 24:15
  And
• 24:16
  yet
• 24:16
  it
• 24:16
  went
• 24:16
  off
• 24:16
  on
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  first
• 24:17
  manned
• 24:17
  attempt.
• 24:18
  I'm
• 24:18
  speculating
• 24:19
  that
• 24:20
  happened
• 24:20
  because
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  processing
• 24:21
  power
• 24:22
  and
• 24:22
  computational
• 24:23
  power
• 24:23
  that
• 24:23
  we
• 24:23
  have
• 24:23
  in
• 24:24
  2026
• 24:25
  allows
• 24:26
  for
• 24:27
  such
• 24:27
  sophisticated
• 24:28
  electronics
• 24:28
  and
• 24:29
  systems
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  be
• 24:29
  monitored
• 24:30
  in
• 24:30
  real
• 24:30
  time.
• 24:31
  You
• 24:31
  don't
• 24:32
  have
• 24:32
  to
• 24:32
  stop
• 24:32
  and
• 24:32
  start
• 24:32
  so
• 24:33
  many.
• 24:34
  Yeah,
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  do,
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  do
• 24:34
  want
• 24:34
  to
• 24:35
  point
• 24:35
  out
• 24:35
  here
• 24:35
  one
• 24:35
  thing
• 24:36
  that
• 24:36
  struck
• 24:36
  me
• 24:37
  that
• 24:38
  they
• 24:38
  were.
• 24:38
  The
• 24:39
  rocket
• 24:39
  that
• 24:40
  lifted
• 24:40
  off
• 24:41
  was
• 24:41
  as
• 24:41
  tall
• 24:42
  as
• 24:42
  the
• 24:43
  Statue
• 24:43
  of
• 24:43
  Liberty
• 24:45
  and
• 24:45
  there
• 24:45
  were
• 24:46
  8.8
• 24:47
  million
• 24:47
  pounds
• 24:48
  of
• 24:48
  thrust
• 24:49
  that
• 24:50
  lifted
• 24:50
  it.
• 24:51
  So
• 24:51
  I
• 24:52
  thought
• 24:52
  that
• 24:52
  really
• 24:52
  got
• 24:53
  her
• 24:53
  off.
• 24:55
  Yeah,
• 24:56
  it's
• 24:57
  got
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  be
• 24:57
  a
• 24:58
  wild
• 24:58
  ride.
• 24:58
  I
• 24:58
  was
• 24:59
  always
• 24:59
  worried,
• 25:00
  you
• 25:00
  know,
• 25:00
  that
• 25:00
  was
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  second
• 25:01
  flight
• 25:01
  of
• 25:01
  that,
• 25:02
  that
• 25:03
  vehicle.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:03
  you
• 25:04
  know,
• 25:04
  you
• 25:04
  always
• 25:04
  worry
• 25:04
  about
• 25:05
  how
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  astronauts
• 25:06
  are
• 25:06
  being
• 25:07
  vibrated
• 25:07
  in
• 25:08
  there
• 25:08
  and
• 25:08
  what
• 25:08
  the,
• 25:09
  yeah,
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  launch.
• 25:11
  Like
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  remember
• 25:12
  talking
• 25:12
  to
• 25:12
  Jack
• 25:13
  Schmidt,
• 25:13
  I
• 25:14
  think
• 25:14
  on
• 25:14
  Apollo
• 25:14
  17,
• 25:15
  he
• 25:15
  said
• 25:15
  when
• 25:16
  that
• 25:16
  thing
• 25:16
  lit
• 25:16
  off
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  could,
• 25:18
  I,
• 25:18
  you
• 25:18
  know,
• 25:19
  we're
• 25:19
  looking
• 25:19
  at
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  instrument
• 25:20
  panel
• 25:20
  and
• 25:20
  it
• 25:20
  was
• 25:21
  shaking
• 25:21
  so
• 25:21
  much
• 25:21
  you
• 25:22
  couldn't
• 25:22
  read
• 25:23
  anything.
• 25:24
  You
• 25:24
  know,
• 25:24
  like,
• 25:25
  I
• 25:25
  don't
• 25:25
  know,
• 25:25
  we're
• 25:26
  making
• 25:26
  progress.
• 25:27
  Kind
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  an
• 25:27
  odd
• 25:28
  one.
• 25:29
  I
• 25:29
  love
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  optical
• 25:30
  comm,
• 25:30
  but
• 25:31
  I
• 25:31
  think
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  one
• 25:31
  that
• 25:31
  got
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  lot
• 25:32
  of
• 25:33
  attention
• 25:33
  was
• 25:33
  the
• 25:34
  damn
• 25:34
  toilet.
• 25:36
  Always,
• 25:37
  always
• 25:37
  like,
• 25:38
  you
• 25:38
  know,
• 25:39
  and
• 25:39
  actually
• 25:39
  the
• 25:40
  NASA
• 25:40
  administrator
• 25:41
  there
• 25:41
  has
• 25:41
  flown
• 25:41
  on
• 25:42
  Polaris
• 25:43
  flights
• 25:43
  and
• 25:43
  he
• 25:44
  had
• 25:44
  the
• 25:44
  same
• 25:44
  kind
• 25:44
  of
• 25:45
  problem
• 25:45
  with
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  toilet
• 25:46
  on
• 25:46
  SpaceX
• 25:47
  Dragon.
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  think
• 25:49
  we
• 25:49
  need
• 25:49
  to
• 25:49
  have
• 25:49
  more
• 25:50
  attention
• 25:50
  to
• 25:50
  that
• 25:50
  toilet.
• 25:51
  Toilets
• 25:52
  are
• 25:52
  really
• 25:52
  complicated
• 25:53
  in
• 25:53
  space
• 25:53
  because
• 25:54
  of
• 25:54
  so
• 25:54
  many
• 25:55
  different
• 25:55
  factors.
• 25:56
  Mostly
• 25:57
  because
• 25:57
  of
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  freezing.
• 25:58
  You
• 25:58
  see
• 25:58
  you
• 25:58
  have
• 25:58
  the
• 25:59
  exhaust
• 25:59
  vents
• 25:59
  for
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  urine
• 26:00
  right
• 26:00
  off
• 26:00
  the
• 26:01
  side
• 26:01
  of
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  ship,
• 26:02
  but
• 26:02
  because
• 26:02
  it's
• 26:02
  on
• 26:03
  the
• 26:03
  side
• 26:03
  of
• 26:03
  the
• 26:03
  sh,
• 26:04
  it's
• 26:04
  exposed
• 26:05
  to
• 26:05
  the
• 26:05
  extreme
• 26:05
  temperatures
• 26:06
  so
• 26:06
  it
• 26:06
  tends
• 26:07
  to
• 26:07
  freeze.
• 26:08
  So
• 26:08
  they
• 26:08
  try
• 26:08
  to
• 26:08
  turn
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  spacecraft
• 26:09
  into
• 26:10
  the
• 26:10
  sun
• 26:10
  to
• 26:10
  try
• 26:10
  to
• 26:11
  melt
• 26:11
  it.
• 26:11
  You
• 26:11
  know,
• 26:12
  a
• 26:12
  lot
• 26:12
  of
• 26:12
  this
• 26:13
  stuff
• 26:13
  you
• 26:13
  learn
• 26:14
  later
• 26:14
  because
• 26:15
  I
• 26:16
  think
• 26:16
  there's
• 26:16
  a
• 26:16
  good
• 26:17
  lesson
• 26:17
  learned
• 26:17
  here
• 26:18
  about
• 26:19
  what
• 26:19
  the
• 26:20
  astronauts
• 26:20
  go
• 26:21
  through
• 26:21
  that
• 26:21
  don't
• 26:22
  get
• 26:22
  reported
• 26:22
  until
• 26:23
  they're
• 26:23
  down
• 26:24
  back
• 26:24
  on
• 26:24
  Earth
• 26:25
  and
• 26:25
  they're
• 26:26
  retiring
• 26:27
  or
• 26:27
  whatever.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:28
  that's
• 26:28
  a
• 26:28
  Starliner,
• 26:29
  you
• 26:29
  know,
• 26:29
  the
• 26:30
  Boeing
• 26:30
  Starliner,
• 26:32
  the
• 26:32
  two
• 26:32
  person
• 26:33
  crew
• 26:33
  on
• 26:33
  that.
• 26:34
  Only
• 26:35
  just
• 26:35
  in
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  last
• 26:36
  few
• 26:37
  months
• 26:37
  or
• 26:38
  so
• 26:39
  you're
• 26:40
  hearing
• 26:40
  what
• 26:41
  they
• 26:41
  went
• 26:42
  through
• 26:42
  on
• 26:42
  Starliner
• 26:43
  with
• 26:43
  the
• 26:44
  doghouse
• 26:45
  motors
• 26:45
  and
• 26:46
  all
• 26:46
  the
• 26:46
  problems
• 26:46
  they
• 26:46
  had
• 26:47
  with
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  control.
• 26:49
  That
• 26:49
  was
• 26:50
  a
• 26:50
  big
• 26:50
  deal.
• 26:51
  So
• 26:51
  who
• 26:51
  knows
• 26:52
  what
• 26:53
  beyond
• 26:53
  toilets
• 26:54
  and
• 26:55
  how
• 26:55
  well
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  optical
• 26:56
  comm
• 26:56
  worked.
• 26:57
  That's
• 26:57
  the
• 26:58
  purpose
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  test
• 26:58
  flight
• 26:59
  of
• 26:59
  Orion,
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  life
• 27:01
  support
• 27:01
  system.
• 27:02
  I
• 27:02
  heard
• 27:02
  temperature
• 27:03
  problems
• 27:04
  every
• 27:04
  once
• 27:04
  in
• 27:04
  a
• 27:04
  while.
• 27:05
  Yeah,
• 27:05
  they
• 27:06
  were
• 27:06
  cold,
• 27:07
  they
• 27:07
  were
• 27:07
  cold,
• 27:07
  they
• 27:08
  were
• 27:08
  hot,
• 27:08
  they
• 27:08
  were
• 27:09
  this
• 27:09
  or
• 27:09
  that.
• 27:10
  The
• 27:10
  human
• 27:11
  factors
• 27:12
  plays
• 27:13
  a
• 27:13
  giant
• 27:13
  role.
• 27:14
  The
• 27:14
  other
• 27:14
  one
• 27:14
  that
• 27:14
  was
• 27:15
  a
• 27:15
  weird
• 27:15
  one
• 27:16
  was
• 27:16
  the
• 27:17
  space
• 27:17
  radiation
• 27:18
  issue
• 27:18
  of
• 27:19
  one
• 27:19
  thing
• 27:20
  that
• 27:20
  they
• 27:20
  can't
• 27:21
  perceive
• 27:21
  at
• 27:22
  launch.
• 27:23
  What's
• 27:24
  going
• 27:24
  to
• 27:24
  happen?
• 27:24
  Is
• 27:25
  the
• 27:25
  sun
• 27:25
  going
• 27:26
  to
• 27:26
  be
• 27:26
  nice
• 27:26
  to
• 27:26
  you?
• 27:27
  Tossing
• 27:27
  out
• 27:27
  a
• 27:28
  solar
• 27:28
  storm
• 27:29
  that
• 27:29
  could
• 27:30
  irradiate
• 27:30
  the
• 27:30
  whole
• 27:31
  capsule
• 27:31
  in
• 27:32
  route.
• 27:33
  That's
• 27:33
  an
• 27:33
  issue.
• 27:34
  They
• 27:34
  thought
• 27:34
  about
• 27:35
  it.
• 27:35
  They
• 27:35
  have
• 27:36
  what
• 27:36
  I
• 27:36
  call
• 27:36
  a
• 27:37
  pretty
• 27:37
  jury
• 27:37
  rigged
• 27:38
  response
• 27:39
  to
• 27:39
  that
• 27:39
  of
• 27:40
  stacking
• 27:40
  up
• 27:41
  storage
• 27:41
  bags
• 27:42
  and
• 27:42
  all
• 27:42
  kinds
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  stuff.
• 27:43
  And
• 27:44
  being
• 27:44
  near
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  toilet
• 27:45
  area
• 27:46
  seems
• 27:46
  to
• 27:46
  be
• 27:46
  not
• 27:47
  a
• 27:47
  hotspot
• 27:48
  if
• 27:48
  there's
• 27:48
  radiation
• 27:49
  coming,
• 27:49
  you
• 27:50
  know,
• 27:50
  cosmic
• 27:50
  rays
• 27:51
  or
• 27:51
  protons
• 27:51
  from
• 27:52
  the
• 27:52
  sun.
• 27:52
  So,
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  know,
• 27:53
  that's
• 27:53
  something
• 27:53
  we're
• 27:54
  going
• 27:54
  to
• 27:54
  have
• 27:54
  to
• 27:54
  be
• 27:54
  worried
• 27:54
  about
• 27:55
  not
• 27:55
  only
• 27:56
  en
• 27:56
  route
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  moon,
• 27:57
  but
• 27:58
  if
• 27:58
  we
• 27:58
  get
• 27:58
  people
• 27:58
  down
• 27:59
  there
• 27:59
  for
• 27:59
  long
• 28:00
  term,
• 28:00
  beyond
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  Apollo
• 28:02
  17,
• 28:03
  what
• 28:03
  they
• 28:04
  call
• 28:04
  long
• 28:04
  term,
• 28:05
  at
• 28:05
  that
• 28:05
  time,
• 28:06
  we're
• 28:06
  going
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  have
• 28:06
  to
• 28:07
  deal
• 28:07
  with
• 28:07
  some
• 28:07
  real
• 28:08
  interesting
• 28:09
  dynamics.
• 28:10
  So
• 28:10
  what
• 28:10
  you're
• 28:11
  really
• 28:11
  saying
• 28:11
  to
• 28:12
  me
• 28:12
  is,
• 28:13
  are
• 28:13
  we
• 28:13
  supposed
• 28:14
  to
• 28:14
  do
• 28:14
  this?
• 28:15
  Why
• 28:15
  don't
• 28:15
  we
• 28:16
  just
• 28:16
  stay
• 28:16
  here
• 28:17
  and
• 28:17
  solve
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  problems
• 28:18
  on
• 28:19
  our
• 28:19
  Earth?
• 28:19
  Is
• 28:19
  that
• 28:20
  what
• 28:20
  we're
• 28:20
  being
• 28:20
  told
• 28:21
  by
• 28:21
  all
• 28:21
  of
• 28:21
  this?
• 28:22
  What
• 28:22
  is
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  point
• 28:22
  of
• 28:23
  an
• 28:23
  outpost
• 28:23
  on
• 28:24
  Mars
• 28:25
  other
• 28:25
  than,
• 28:25
  you
• 28:25
  know,
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  great
• 28:26
  achievements
• 28:27
  for
• 28:27
  mankind?
• 28:28
  What
• 28:28
  is
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  point
• 28:29
  of
• 28:29
  it?
• 28:30
  Yeah,
• 28:31
  well,
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  think
• 28:31
  it's
• 28:32
  always
• 28:32
  been
• 28:32
  there
• 28:33
  since
• 28:33
  we
• 28:33
  started
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  whole
• 28:34
  space
• 28:34
  program.
• 28:36
  I'm
• 28:36
  in
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  camp
• 28:36
  that
• 28:37
  I
• 28:37
  think
• 28:37
  human
• 28:38
  nature
• 28:38
  and
• 28:38
  the
• 28:39
  way
• 28:39
  we
• 28:39
  explore,
• 28:41
  we're
• 28:41
  outward
• 28:41
  bound
• 28:42
  at
• 28:42
  all
• 28:42
  times.
• 28:43
  And
• 28:43
  I
• 28:43
  think
• 28:43
  the
• 28:44
  space
• 28:44
  program
• 28:44
  has
• 28:44
  allowed
• 28:45
  that.
• 28:45
  And
• 28:45
  there
• 28:45
  are
• 28:45
  a
• 28:46
  lot
• 28:46
  of
• 28:46
  people,
• 28:47
  yeah,
• 28:47
  let's
• 28:47
  go
• 28:47
  ahead
• 28:48
  and
• 28:48
  stay
• 28:48
  down
• 28:48
  here
• 28:48
  and
• 28:49
  bomb
• 28:49
  everybody
• 28:50
  and
• 28:51
  you
• 28:51
  know,
• 28:51
  neutralize
• 28:52
  ourselves.
• 28:53
  Elon
• 28:54
  Musk,
• 28:54
  hate
• 28:55
  him
• 28:55
  or
• 28:55
  love
• 28:55
  him,
• 28:55
  he
• 28:56
  is
• 28:56
  a
• 28:56
  multi
• 28:57
  planet
• 28:57
  species.
• 28:58
  You're
• 28:59
  always
• 28:59
  worried
• 28:59
  about
• 28:59
  an
• 29:00
  asteroid
• 29:00
  that's
• 29:00
  going
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  come
• 29:01
  in
• 29:01
  and
• 29:01
  knock
• 29:01
  out
• 29:02
  Earth
• 29:02
  life.
• 29:03
  Isn't
• 29:04
  it
• 29:04
  better
• 29:04
  to
• 29:04
  spread
• 29:05
  out?
• 29:06
  The
• 29:06
  point
• 29:06
  to
• 29:06
  me
• 29:07
  that
• 29:07
  we
• 29:08
  got
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  watch
• 29:08
  for
• 29:08
  and
• 29:09
  it
• 29:09
  won't
• 29:09
  happen
• 29:09
  in
• 29:09
  my
• 29:10
  lifetime
• 29:10
  because
• 29:10
  I'm
• 29:11
  getting
• 29:11
  close
• 29:11
  to
• 29:12
  not
• 29:12
  being
• 29:12
  here.
• 29:13
  What
• 29:14
  we're
• 29:14
  doing
• 29:14
  today
• 29:15
  is
• 29:15
  Wright
• 29:15
  brothers
• 29:16
  stuff.
• 29:16
  It's
• 29:17
  amateur
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  me.
• 29:19
  It's
• 29:19
  bailing
• 29:20
  wire
• 29:20
  and
• 29:21
  we're
• 29:21
  back
• 29:21
  in
• 29:22
  1903
• 29:23
  or
• 29:23
  something
• 29:23
  with
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  Wright
• 29:24
  brothers
• 29:24
  and
• 29:24
  a
• 29:24
  rail
• 29:25
  going
• 29:25
  down
• 29:25
  there
• 29:25
  trying
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  get
• 29:26
  72
• 29:26
  seconds
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  flight.
• 29:29
  Things
• 29:29
  are
• 29:29
  going
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  change.
• 29:30
  The
• 29:30
  way
• 29:31
  we
• 29:31
  blast
• 29:32
  people
• 29:32
  off
• 29:33
  and
• 29:34
  get
• 29:34
  into
• 29:35
  space
• 29:35
  is
• 29:35
  going
• 29:35
  to
• 29:36
  radically
• 29:36
  change
• 29:36
  in
• 29:37
  the
• 29:37
  decades
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  come
• 29:38
  when.
• 29:39
  We
• 29:39
  can
• 29:39
  evolve
• 29:39
  beyond
• 29:40
  chemical
• 29:40
  propellant.
• 29:41
  It'll.
• 29:42
  Yeah,
• 29:42
  this
• 29:42
  is
• 29:42
  not
• 29:43
  going
• 29:43
  to
• 29:43
  be
• 29:43
  the
• 29:43
  way
• 29:43
  we're
• 29:44
  doing
• 29:44
  it.
• 29:44
  I
• 29:44
  don't
• 29:44
  know
• 29:45
  what
• 29:45
  it's
• 29:45
  going
• 29:45
  to
• 29:45
  be.
• 29:46
  Historically
• 29:46
  though,
• 29:47
  any
• 29:47
  predominant
• 29:48
  civilization
• 29:49
  that
• 29:49
  turned
• 29:49
  its
• 29:49
  back
• 29:50
  on
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  frontier
• 29:50
  declined.
• 29:52
  And
• 29:52
  people
• 29:52
  saying,
• 29:53
  why
• 29:53
  are
• 29:53
  we
• 29:53
  going
• 29:53
  back
• 29:54
  to
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  moon?
• 29:54
  Why
• 29:55
  don't
• 29:55
  we
• 29:55
  just
• 29:55
  go
• 29:55
  to
• 29:56
  Mars?
• 29:56
  And
• 29:57
  I
• 29:57
  think
• 29:57
  people
• 29:57
  are
• 29:58
  not
• 29:58
  taking
• 29:58
  into
• 29:59
  consideration
• 30:00
  how
• 30:01
  different
• 30:02
  the
• 30:02
  two
• 30:02
  objectives
• 30:03
  are.
• 30:04
  There
• 30:04
  is
• 30:04
  really
• 30:05
  no
• 30:05
  survivability
• 30:06
  for
• 30:06
  Mars
• 30:07
  at
• 30:07
  this
• 30:07
  point
• 30:07
  for
• 30:08
  human
• 30:08
  beings.
• 30:08
  There's
• 30:08
  just
• 30:09
  too
• 30:09
  much
• 30:09
  radiation,
• 30:10
  there's
• 30:10
  too
• 30:10
  much
• 30:11
  time.
• 30:11
  Those
• 30:12
  things
• 30:12
  have
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  be
• 30:12
  addressed.
• 30:13
  Just
• 30:13
  going
• 30:14
  to
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  moon
• 30:14
  is
• 30:15
  a
• 30:15
  major
• 30:15
  safety
• 30:16
  risk.
• 30:16
  And
• 30:16
  it's
• 30:17
  just
• 30:17
  a
• 30:17
  skip
• 30:18
  away
• 30:18
  compared
• 30:18
  to
• 30:18
  Mars.
• 30:19
  I
• 30:19
  know
• 30:19
  Elon
• 30:20
  Musk
• 30:20
  wants
• 30:20
  to
• 30:20
  make
• 30:20
  that
• 30:21
  happen.
• 30:21
  And
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  Moon
• 30:22
  is
• 30:22
  so
• 30:22
  interesting
• 30:23
  anyway
• 30:23
  because
• 30:24
  it's
• 30:24
  our
• 30:24
  space
• 30:24
  brother.
• 30:25
  We
• 30:25
  were
• 30:25
  separated
• 30:26
  at
• 30:26
  birth
• 30:26
  by
• 30:26
  a
• 30:27
  cosmic
• 30:27
  collision.
• 30:27
  We're
• 30:28
  connected.
• 30:29
  It's
• 30:29
  this
• 30:30
  cosmic
• 30:30
  preservation
• 30:31
  of
• 30:32
  what
• 30:32
  we
• 30:32
  come
• 30:33
  from
• 30:33
  because
• 30:34
  we
• 30:34
  have
• 30:34
  tectonic
• 30:35
  plates,
• 30:35
  we
• 30:35
  have
• 30:36
  life
• 30:36
  on
• 30:36
  this
• 30:36
  planet.
• 30:37
  All
• 30:37
  those
• 30:37
  initial
• 30:39
  structures
• 30:39
  on
• 30:39
  Earth
• 30:40
  are
• 30:40
  gone.
• 30:41
  They've
• 30:41
  been
• 30:41
  covered
• 30:42
  up
• 30:42
  and
• 30:42
  changed.
• 30:42
  The
• 30:43
  moon
• 30:43
  is
• 30:44
  us
• 30:44
  and
• 30:44
  it
• 30:45
  has
• 30:45
  been
• 30:45
  preserved
• 30:46
  because
• 30:46
  there
• 30:46
  is
• 30:46
  no
• 30:46
  tectonic
• 30:47
  shifting
• 30:47
  and
• 30:48
  there
• 30:48
  is
• 30:48
  no
• 30:48
  atmosphere.
• 30:49
  There's
• 30:49
  so
• 30:50
  much
• 30:50
  to
• 30:50
  learn
• 30:50
  about
• 30:51
  Earth.
• 30:51
  Well,
• 30:52
  isn't
• 30:52
  the
• 30:53
  premise
• 30:53
  to
• 30:54
  build
• 30:54
  a
• 30:54
  permanent
• 30:55
  base
• 30:55
  on
• 30:55
  the
• 30:55
  moon
• 30:56
  in
• 30:56
  order
• 30:56
  to
• 30:57
  facilitate
• 30:58
  a
• 30:58
  flight
• 30:58
  to
• 30:59
  Mars
• 31:00
  from
• 31:00
  the
• 31:00
  moon
• 31:00
  as
• 31:01
  opposed
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  from
• 31:01
  Earth?
• 31:02
  Is
• 31:02
  that
• 31:02
  part
• 31:03
  of
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  plan
• 31:03
  or
• 31:03
  not?
• 31:04
  It
• 31:04
  can
• 31:04
  be
• 31:04
  part
• 31:05
  of
• 31:05
  the
• 31:05
  plan,
• 31:05
  but
• 31:06
  I
• 31:06
  think
• 31:06
  the
• 31:06
  thing
• 31:07
  that's
• 31:07
  missing
• 31:07
  here
• 31:08
  is
• 31:08
  you
• 31:09
  gotta
• 31:09
  regain
• 31:10
  your
• 31:10
  space
• 31:10
  legs.
• 31:11
  That's
• 31:11
  all
• 31:11
  I
• 31:12
  ever
• 31:12
  think
• 31:12
  of.
• 31:12
  You
• 31:13
  gotta
• 31:14
  get
• 31:14
  back
• 31:14
  to
• 31:14
  the
• 31:14
  moon
• 31:15
  and
• 31:15
  do
• 31:15
  it
• 31:15
  in
• 31:15
  a
• 31:15
  routine
• 31:16
  manner.
• 31:16
  And
• 31:17
  it'll
• 31:17
  fall
• 31:17
  then
• 31:17
  to
• 31:18
  nuclear
• 31:19
  power
• 31:19
  systems
• 31:20
  on
• 31:20
  the
• 31:20
  moon.
• 31:20
  They're
• 31:21
  talking
• 31:21
  about
• 31:21
  and
• 31:22
  talking
• 31:22
  about
• 31:23
  even
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  human
• 31:24
  factors
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  having
• 31:26
  people
• 31:26
  cooped
• 31:26
  up
• 31:26
  in
• 31:27
  a
• 31:28
  environment
• 31:28
  on
• 31:28
  the
• 31:29
  moon.
• 31:29
  How
• 31:30
  much
• 31:30
  headway
• 31:30
  are
• 31:31
  we
• 31:31
  going
• 31:31
  to
• 31:31
  get
• 31:31
  for
• 31:31
  a
• 31:32
  future
• 31:32
  Mars
• 31:33
  base?
• 31:34
  Yeah,
• 31:35
  I
• 31:35
  just
• 31:35
  see
• 31:35
  the
• 31:36
  moon
• 31:36
  as
• 31:36
  a
• 31:36
  really
• 31:38
  stepping
• 31:38
  stone.
• 31:39
  But
• 31:39
  you
• 31:39
  know,
• 31:40
  to
• 31:40
  what?
• 31:41
  Mars
• 31:41
  is
• 31:42
  one
• 31:42
  thing,
• 31:42
  but
• 31:42
  if
• 31:43
  we're
• 31:43
  really
• 31:44
  clever,
• 31:44
  it's
• 31:45
  going
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  look.
• 31:45
  Looks
• 31:45
  silly
• 31:46
  somewhere
• 31:46
  down
• 31:47
  the
• 31:47
  history
• 31:47
  book
• 31:48
  timeline.
• 31:50
  Why
• 31:50
  do
• 31:50
  they
• 31:51
  even
• 31:51
  argue
• 31:51
  about.
• 31:52
  It
• 31:52
  was
• 31:52
  obvious
• 31:53
  that
• 31:53
  he
• 31:53
  had
• 31:53
  to
• 31:53
  go
• 31:54
  there
• 31:54
  first
• 31:54
  and
• 31:55
  get
• 31:55
  on
• 31:55
  to
• 31:55
  Mars.
• 31:56
  And
• 31:56
  then,
• 31:56
  then
• 31:57
  by,
• 31:57
  by
• 31:58
  the
• 31:58
  time
• 31:58
  they
• 31:58
  got
• 31:58
  fusion
• 31:59
  reactors
• 31:59
  and
• 32:00
  a
• 32:00
  lot
• 32:00
  of
• 32:00
  these
• 32:00
  other
• 32:01
  things,
• 32:01
  they're
• 32:02
  an
• 32:02
  interstellar
• 32:03
  civilization
• 32:05
  groping
• 32:05
  out
• 32:06
  among
• 32:06
  the
• 32:07
  stars.
• 32:07
  So
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  can
• 32:08
  build
• 32:08
  up
• 32:08
  a
• 32:09
  nice
• 32:09
  little
• 32:09
  white
• 32:10
  robe
• 32:10
  case
• 32:11
  on
• 32:11
  why
• 32:11
  we're
• 32:12
  doing
• 32:12
  this.
• 32:13
  And
• 32:13
  again,
• 32:14
  my
• 32:14
  mother
• 32:14
  used
• 32:15
  to
• 32:15
  tell
• 32:15
  me
• 32:15
  all
• 32:15
  the
• 32:15
  time,
• 32:15
  she
• 32:16
  says,
• 32:16
  you
• 32:16
  know,
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  Meeks
• 32:17
  will
• 32:17
  inherit
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  Earth,
• 32:18
  but
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  brave
• 32:19
  ones
• 32:19
  are
• 32:19
  going
• 32:19
  to
• 32:19
  the
• 32:20
  moon.
• 32:20
  Oh,
• 32:21
  that's
• 32:21
  good.
• 32:22
  There
• 32:22
  are
• 32:22
  really
• 32:22
  extraterrestrials
• 32:24
  out
• 32:24
  there.
• 32:26
  Our
• 32:26
  reaching
• 32:27
  out
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  them.
• 32:28
  Does
• 32:28
  that
• 32:28
  mean
• 32:29
  that
• 32:29
  it
• 32:29
  might
• 32:30
  make
• 32:30
  it
• 32:30
  more
• 32:30
  possible
• 32:31
  for
• 32:31
  us
• 32:31
  to
• 32:32
  communicate
• 32:32
  with
• 32:32
  an
• 32:33
  extraterrestrial
• 32:35
  consciousness
• 32:36
  and
• 32:37
  learn
• 32:37
  some
• 32:38
  more
• 32:38
  tricks
• 32:38
  about
• 32:39
  how
• 32:39
  to
• 32:40
  travel
• 32:40
  in
• 32:40
  space?
• 32:41
  I
• 32:42
  mean
• 32:42
  these
• 32:42
  things.
• 32:43
  I
• 32:43
  grew
• 32:43
  up
• 32:43
  on
• 32:43
  science
• 32:44
  fiction,
• 32:44
  right?
• 32:45
  Yeah.
• 32:45
  And
• 32:46
  so.
• 32:46
  And
• 32:46
  now
• 32:46
  here
• 32:47
  it
• 32:47
  is
• 32:47
  in
• 32:47
  reality
• 32:48
  and
• 32:48
  it's,
• 32:49
  it's
• 32:50
  not
• 32:50
  as
• 32:50
  easy
• 32:51
  as
• 32:51
  turning
• 32:51
  a
• 32:52
  pay.
• 32:52
  You're
• 32:52
  going
• 32:53
  on
• 32:53
  the
• 32:53
  assumption
• 32:53
  that
• 32:53
  if
• 32:54
  there
• 32:54
  is
• 32:54
  extraterrestrial
• 32:55
  life,
• 32:55
  that
• 32:55
  they
• 32:55
  live
• 32:56
  in
• 32:56
  our
• 32:56
  reality
• 32:56
  plane,
• 32:57
  that
• 32:57
  they're
• 32:57
  like
• 32:58
  we
• 32:58
  are
• 32:58
  in
• 32:58
  that
• 32:59
  respect.
• 32:59
  It
• 32:59
  could
• 32:59
  be
• 33:00
  completely
• 33:01
  obtuse
• 33:02
  and
• 33:02
  abstract
• 33:03
  other
• 33:04
  dimensional.
• 33:04
  I
• 33:05
  agree.
• 33:05
  Creating
• 33:06
  a
• 33:06
  space
• 33:06
  base
• 33:07
  on
• 33:07
  the
• 33:07
  moon
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  get
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  Mars
• 33:08
  efficiency,
• 33:09
  if
• 33:10
  there
• 33:10
  is
• 33:10
  the
• 33:10
  makings
• 33:11
  of
• 33:11
  fuel
• 33:11
  there
• 33:11
  with
• 33:12
  water.
• 33:12
  The
• 33:13
  biggest
• 33:13
  tax
• 33:13
  is
• 33:14
  getting
• 33:14
  off
• 33:14
  of
• 33:14
  Earth.
• 33:15
  The
• 33:15
  amount
• 33:15
  of
• 33:16
  energy
• 33:16
  required
• 33:16
  to
• 33:17
  break
• 33:17
  free
• 33:17
  of
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  Earth
• 33:18
  is
• 33:18
  enormous
• 33:20
  in
• 33:20
  the
• 33:20
  time
• 33:20
  we
• 33:20
  have
• 33:20
  left.
• 33:21
  Leonard,
• 33:22
  let's
• 33:22
  draw
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  scene.
• 33:23
  We
• 33:24
  now
• 33:24
  have
• 33:24
  a
• 33:24
  robust
• 33:25
  commercial
• 33:26
  space
• 33:26
  landscape.
• 33:27
  We
• 33:28
  have
• 33:28
  three
• 33:29
  major
• 33:29
  launch
• 33:30
  systems.
• 33:30
  We
• 33:30
  have
• 33:30
  the
• 33:31
  Artemis,
• 33:31
  which
• 33:31
  costs
• 33:32
  something
• 33:32
  like
• 33:32
  $4
• 33:33
  billion
• 33:33
  a
• 33:34
  launch
• 33:35
  and
• 33:35
  it's
• 33:35
  made
• 33:36
  up
• 33:36
  of
• 33:36
  shuttle
• 33:37
  parts.
• 33:37
  It's
• 33:37
  kind
• 33:38
  of
• 33:38
  like
• 33:38
  it's
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  Frankenstein.
• 33:39
  Yeah.
• 33:40
  Compared
• 33:40
  to
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  Saturn
• 33:40
  V
• 33:41
  rocket,
• 33:42
  it
• 33:42
  has
• 33:42
  more
• 33:43
  thrust,
• 33:43
  but
• 33:43
  it's
• 33:44
  slightly
• 33:44
  shorter.
• 33:45
  Just
• 33:45
  to
• 33:45
  give
• 33:45
  you
• 33:45
  a
• 33:46
  scale
• 33:46
  here.
• 33:46
  The
• 33:46
  Saturn
• 33:47
  V
• 33:47
  had
• 33:47
  about
• 33:47
  seven
• 33:48
  and
• 33:48
  a
• 33:48
  half
• 33:48
  million
• 33:49
  pounds
• 33:49
  of
• 33:49
  thrust
• 33:49
  when
• 33:49
  it
• 33:50
  launched.
• 33:50
  The
• 33:51
  Artemis
• 33:51
  has
• 33:52
  8.8
• 33:53
  million.
• 33:53
  So
• 33:53
  it's
• 33:54
  a
• 33:54
  little
• 33:54
  bit
• 33:54
  larger.
• 33:55
  SpaceX's
• 33:56
  Starship
• 33:57
  Super
• 33:57
  Heavy
• 33:57
  booster,
• 33:58
  which
• 33:58
  has
• 33:59
  33
• 33:59
  engines
• 34:00
  as
• 34:00
  opposed
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  five
• 34:00
  or
• 34:01
  six.
• 34:01
  It
• 34:02
  produces
• 34:02
  approximately
• 34:03
  16
• 34:03
  to
• 34:04
  17
• 34:05
  million
• 34:05
  pounds
• 34:05
  of
• 34:06
  thrust,
• 34:06
  at
• 34:06
  least
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  iterations
• 34:07
  that
• 34:07
  they're
• 34:08
  planning
• 34:08
  and
• 34:09
  can
• 34:09
  put
• 34:10
  a
• 34:10
  payload
• 34:10
  of
• 34:11
  250
• 34:11
  to
• 34:12
  300
• 34:12
  tons
• 34:12
  in
• 34:12
  orbit.
• 34:13
  That's
• 34:14
  incredible.
• 34:15
  Now
• 34:15
  you
• 34:15
  have
• 34:16
  Bezos
• 34:16
  with
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  new
• 34:17
  Glenn,
• 34:18
  which
• 34:18
  is
• 34:18
  also
• 34:19
  designed
• 34:19
  to
• 34:19
  go
• 34:19
  to
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  moon.
• 34:20
  And
• 34:20
  Bezos
• 34:20
  and
• 34:21
  Musk
• 34:21
  are
• 34:22
  the
• 34:22
  ones
• 34:22
  that
• 34:22
  are
• 34:22
  supposedly
• 34:23
  going
• 34:23
  to
• 34:23
  be
• 34:23
  building
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  moon
• 34:24
  lander
• 34:24
  for
• 34:24
  the
• 34:24
  Artemis
• 34:25
  program.
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  mean
• 34:26
  it's
• 34:26
  so
• 34:26
  intertwined
• 34:27
  now
• 34:27
  the
• 34:27
  commercial
• 34:28
  and
• 34:28
  the
• 34:29
  business
• 34:29
  government
• 34:30
  aspect.
• 34:31
  Well,
• 34:31
  you're
• 34:31
  right.
• 34:32
  The
• 34:32
  private
• 34:33
  sector
• 34:33
  has
• 34:33
  really
• 34:34
  come
• 34:34
  the
• 34:34
  forefront
• 34:35
  and
• 34:36
  you've
• 34:36
  got
• 34:36
  champions
• 34:37
  like
• 34:38
  the
• 34:38
  two,
• 34:38
  you
• 34:38
  know,
• 34:38
  Bezos
• 34:39
  and
• 34:40
  Musk
• 34:41
  out
• 34:41
  there.
• 34:41
  But
• 34:41
  a
• 34:42
  lot
• 34:42
  of
• 34:42
  other
• 34:42
  startups,
• 34:43
  space
• 34:43
  startups
• 34:44
  are
• 34:44
  probably
• 34:45
  since
• 34:45
  we
• 34:45
  started
• 34:45
  talking,
• 34:46
  we've
• 34:47
  10
• 34:47
  more
• 34:48
  startups
• 34:48
  in
• 34:48
  space
• 34:49
  have
• 34:49
  started.
• 34:50
  They're
• 34:50
  all
• 34:51
  over
• 34:51
  the
• 34:51
  place
• 34:51
  with
• 34:52
  new
• 34:52
  ideas,
• 34:53
  new
• 34:53
  concepts,
• 34:54
  new
• 34:55
  technology
• 34:56
  that
• 34:56
  they
• 34:56
  can
• 34:57
  muster
• 34:57
  faster
• 34:58
  than
• 34:58
  even
• 34:58
  NASA
• 34:59
  does.
• 35:00
  So
• 35:00
  yeah,
• 35:00
  NASA
• 35:01
  relying
• 35:01
  on
• 35:01
  them
• 35:02
  is
• 35:02
  good.
• 35:03
  But
• 35:03
  I
• 35:04
  think
• 35:04
  we
• 35:04
  are
• 35:04
  at
• 35:05
  a
• 35:05
  little
• 35:05
  bit
• 35:05
  of
• 35:05
  a
• 35:06
  quandary
• 35:07
  because
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  first
• 35:09
  thing
• 35:09
  that
• 35:09
  Jared
• 35:10
  Isaacman,
• 35:10
  that
• 35:10
  NASA
• 35:11
  administrator
• 35:12
  did
• 35:12
  was
• 35:12
  to
• 35:13
  ask
• 35:13
  Bezos
• 35:14
  and
• 35:15
  Musk
• 35:15
  to
• 35:15
  accelerate
• 35:16
  their
• 35:16
  programs
• 35:17
  because
• 35:17
  they
• 35:18
  got
• 35:18
  too
• 35:18
  complicated.
• 35:19
  The
• 35:20
  refueling
• 35:20
  in
• 35:20
  space
• 35:21
  thing
• 35:21
  is
• 35:21
  always
• 35:22
  one
• 35:22
  that's
• 35:22
  been
• 35:22
  brought
• 35:23
  up
• 35:23
  over
• 35:23
  and
• 35:23
  over
• 35:23
  again.
• 35:24
  People
• 35:24
  not
• 35:25
  not
• 35:25
  big
• 35:25
  fans
• 35:26
  of
• 35:26
  that
• 35:26
  because
• 35:26
  we
• 35:26
  haven't
• 35:27
  done
• 35:27
  it,
• 35:27
  that
• 35:28
  doesn't
• 35:28
  mean
• 35:28
  it
• 35:28
  can't
• 35:29
  be
• 35:29
  done.
• 35:30
  So
• 35:30
  we
• 35:31
  have
• 35:31
  yet
• 35:31
  to
• 35:31
  see
• 35:32
  what
• 35:32
  the
• 35:32
  accelerated
• 35:33
  plans
• 35:34
  of
• 35:34
  both
• 35:34
  companies
• 35:35
  will
• 35:35
  be.
• 35:36
  Elon
• 35:36
  Musk
• 35:36
  is
• 35:37
  very
• 35:37
  creative
• 35:38
  and
• 35:39
  you
• 35:39
  know,
• 35:39
  my
• 35:39
  God,
• 35:40
  thinking
• 35:40
  about
• 35:41
  I
• 35:41
  was
• 35:41
  one
• 35:41
  of
• 35:41
  these
• 35:42
  guys
• 35:42
  that
• 35:42
  went
• 35:42
  out
• 35:42
  to
• 35:43
  New
• 35:43
  Mexico
• 35:43
  and
• 35:44
  saw
• 35:44
  the
• 35:45
  Delta
• 35:45
  Clipper
• 35:46
  get
• 35:46
  off
• 35:47
  the
• 35:47
  ground
• 35:47
  and
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  whole
• 35:49
  point
• 35:49
  of
• 35:49
  it
• 35:49
  was
• 35:49
  to
• 35:50
  re
• 35:50
  fly
• 35:50
  it
• 35:51
  really
• 35:51
  quick
• 35:52
  and
• 35:52
  now
• 35:52
  we
• 35:53
  got
• 35:53
  a
• 35:54
  lot.
• 35:54
  It's
• 35:54
  a
• 35:55
  whole
• 35:55
  hum
• 35:56
  thing
• 35:56
  of
• 35:57
  bringing
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  first
• 35:57
  stage
• 35:58
  back
• 35:58
  to
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  land
• 36:00
  ocean.
• 36:01
  So
• 36:01
  he's
• 36:01
  made
• 36:01
  a
• 36:02
  huge
• 36:03
  contribution
• 36:03
  and
• 36:04
  everybody's
• 36:04
  trying
• 36:04
  to
• 36:04
  mirror
• 36:05
  that.
• 36:06
  So
• 36:06
  I
• 36:06
  don't
• 36:07
  know
• 36:07
  where
• 36:07
  it's
• 36:07
  going
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  go.
• 36:07
  But
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  private
• 36:08
  sector
• 36:08
  is
• 36:09
  very
• 36:09
  important.
• 36:10
  I
• 36:10
  think,
• 36:10
  you
• 36:11
  know,
• 36:11
  it
• 36:11
  would
• 36:11
  be
• 36:11
  amazing
• 36:12
  to
• 36:12
  me
• 36:12
  if
• 36:12
  we
• 36:12
  don't
• 36:13
  have
• 36:13
  problems.
• 36:14
  And
• 36:14
  that's
• 36:15
  where
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  space
• 36:15
  race
• 36:16
  is
• 36:16
  going
• 36:16
  to
• 36:16
  get
• 36:16
  really
• 36:17
  squirrely.
• 36:18
  And
• 36:19
  China
• 36:19
  could
• 36:19
  kill.
• 36:20
  I,
• 36:21
  I
• 36:21
  can
• 36:21
  almost
• 36:21
  make
• 36:21
  a
• 36:22
  prediction.
• 36:22
  They're
• 36:22
  getting
• 36:22
  cocky
• 36:23
  over
• 36:23
  there
• 36:24
  and
• 36:24
  you
• 36:24
  know,
• 36:24
  they
• 36:24
  could
• 36:25
  lose
• 36:25
  a
• 36:25
  crew
• 36:25
  like
• 36:26
  Russia
• 36:27
  has
• 36:27
  and
• 36:27
  the
• 36:27
  United
• 36:28
  States
• 36:28
  with
• 36:28
  the
• 36:29
  shuttle
• 36:29
  missions.
• 36:30
  You
• 36:30
  know,
• 36:31
  how
• 36:31
  are
• 36:31
  they
• 36:31
  going
• 36:31
  to
• 36:31
  react
• 36:32
  to
• 36:32
  loss
• 36:32
  of
• 36:33
  life?
• 36:34
  We
• 36:34
  got
• 36:34
  to
• 36:34
  get
• 36:34
  kind
• 36:35
  of
• 36:35
  ready
• 36:35
  for
• 36:36
  that.
• 36:36
  And
• 36:36
  so
• 36:37
  it's
• 36:37
  going
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  get,
• 36:38
  it's
• 36:38
  going
• 36:38
  to
• 36:38
  be
• 36:39
  exciting.
• 36:39
  And
• 36:39
  you
• 36:40
  know,
• 36:40
  I'm
• 36:40
  like
• 36:40
  you
• 36:41
  when
• 36:41
  we
• 36:41
  first
• 36:41
  started
• 36:42
  talking.
• 36:42
  I'm
• 36:43
  13
• 36:43
  again,
• 36:44
  let's
• 36:44
  go.
• 36:45
  You
• 36:45
  know,
• 36:45
  it
• 36:46
  sounds
• 36:46
  to
• 36:46
  me
• 36:46
  like
• 36:47
  we're
• 36:47
  all
• 36:47
  Bezos
• 36:48
  on
• 36:48
  this
• 36:48
  bus.
• 36:50
  That's
• 36:50
  what
• 36:51
  makes
• 36:51
  it
• 36:51
  exciting
• 36:51
  is
• 36:52
  the
• 36:52
  risk.
• 36:52
  Apollo
• 36:53
  13,
• 36:54
  great
• 36:54
  case
• 36:54
  in
• 36:55
  point.
• 36:55
  Thank
• 36:56
  God
• 36:56
  that
• 36:56
  explosion
• 36:56
  happened
• 36:57
  on
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  way
• 36:57
  to
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  moon
• 36:57
  because
• 36:58
  they
• 36:58
  had
• 36:58
  this
• 36:58
  lunar
• 36:59
  module
• 36:59
  still
• 36:59
  to
• 37:00
  get
• 37:00
  back
• 37:00
  to
• 37:00
  Earth
• 37:01
  with
• 37:01
  and
• 37:02
  that
• 37:02
  was
• 37:02
  all
• 37:02
  private
• 37:02
  industry.
• 37:03
  Grumman
• 37:03
  on
• 37:04
  Long
• 37:04
  island
• 37:04
  built
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  lunar
• 37:05
  module
• 37:05
  and
• 37:06
  Rockwell
• 37:07
  out
• 37:07
  here
• 37:07
  in
• 37:08
  Whittier
• 37:08
  built
• 37:08
  the
• 37:09
  command
• 37:09
  module.
• 37:10
  And
• 37:10
  a
• 37:10
  little
• 37:11
  known
• 37:11
  story
• 37:11
  that
• 37:11
  they
• 37:12
  had
• 37:12
  to
• 37:12
  use
• 37:12
  the
• 37:12
  lunar
• 37:12
  module's
• 37:13
  working
• 37:14
  engine
• 37:14
  systems
• 37:15
  to
• 37:15
  get
• 37:15
  back
• 37:15
  to
• 37:16
  Earth
• 37:16
  and
• 37:16
  then
• 37:16
  switch
• 37:16
  over
• 37:17
  into
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  dead
• 37:17
  capsule
• 37:18
  and
• 37:18
  land
• 37:19
  safely
• 37:19
  on
• 37:19
  the
• 37:19
  planet
• 37:20
  after
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  explosion.
• 37:21
  And
• 37:21
  when
• 37:22
  that
• 37:22
  happened,
• 37:22
  Grumman,
• 37:23
  who
• 37:23
  built
• 37:23
  the
• 37:23
  lunar
• 37:24
  module,
• 37:24
  sent
• 37:24
  a
• 37:25
  towing
• 37:25
  bill
• 37:26
  to
• 37:26
  Rockwell
• 37:27
  for
• 37:27
  like
• 37:27
  A,
• 37:28
  for
• 37:28
  253,000
• 37:29
  miles
• 37:30
  of
• 37:30
  towing.
• 37:33
  That's
• 37:33
  part
• 37:33
  of
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  excitement
• 37:34
  of
• 37:34
  it
• 37:34
  all.
• 37:35
  And
• 37:35
  if
• 37:35
  you
• 37:36
  want
• 37:36
  to
• 37:36
  follow
• 37:36
  it,
• 37:37
  NASA.gov
• 37:38
  on
• 37:38
  YouTube
• 37:39
  has
• 37:39
  been
• 37:39
  doing
• 37:39
  a
• 37:40
  wonderful
• 37:40
  job.
• 37:41
  And
• 37:41
  I'm
• 37:41
  sorry
• 37:41
  you
• 37:41
  said
• 37:42
  ho
• 37:42
  hum,
• 37:42
  and
• 37:42
  I
• 37:42
  get
• 37:43
  what
• 37:43
  you're
• 37:43
  meaning
• 37:43
  by
• 37:43
  that,
• 37:44
  but
• 37:44
  when
• 37:44
  I
• 37:44
  see
• 37:44
  boosters
• 37:45
  coming
• 37:45
  down
• 37:46
  next
• 37:46
  to
• 37:46
  each
• 37:46
  other
• 37:47
  from
• 37:47
  a
• 37:47
  heavy
• 37:47
  rocket
• 37:48
  booster
• 37:48
  landing
• 37:49
  at
• 37:49
  the
• 37:50
  same
• 37:50
  time,
• 37:50
  I
• 37:50
  still
• 37:51
  scream
• 37:51
  like
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  16
• 37:52
  year
• 37:52
  old.
• 37:52
  Absolutely.
• 37:54
  It's
• 37:54
  pretty
• 37:55
  amazing.
• 37:55
  It
• 37:55
  is
• 37:55
  amazing.
• 37:56
  Great
• 37:57
  stuff.
• 37:57
  And
• 37:58
  you
• 37:58
  know,
• 37:58
  you
• 37:58
  can't
• 37:59
  discount
• 37:59
  a
• 37:59
  lawn.
• 38:00
  He's
• 38:00
  got
• 38:00
  a
• 38:00
  passion
• 38:01
  and
• 38:01
  he's
• 38:02
  got
• 38:02
  a
• 38:02
  big
• 38:03
  pocket
• 38:03
  full
• 38:04
  of
• 38:04
  money
• 38:04
  and
• 38:04
  you
• 38:05
  know,
• 38:05
  they
• 38:05
  got
• 38:05
  everybody
• 38:06
  excited
• 38:06
  about
• 38:06
  the
• 38:07
  IPO
• 38:07
  that's
• 38:08
  coming
• 38:08
  or
• 38:08
  whatever
• 38:08
  the
• 38:09
  hell.
• 38:09
  Yeah.
• 38:09
  Trillions
• 38:10
  of
• 38:10
  dollars
• 38:11
  flooding
• 38:11
  into
• 38:12
  Space
• 38:12
  X
• 38:13
  or
• 38:13
  whatever
• 38:14
  Tesla
• 38:14
  or
• 38:14
  whatever
• 38:14
  it's
• 38:15
  going
• 38:15
  to
• 38:15
  be,
• 38:15
  but
• 38:16
  see
• 38:16
  how
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• 38:19
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• 38:19
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• 38:21
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• 38:24
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• 38:24
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• 38:25
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• 38:25
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• 38:25
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• 38:28
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• 38:31
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• 38:32
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• 38:45
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• 38:47
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• 38:47
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• 38:47
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• 38:58
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• 38:59
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• 39:00
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• 39:03
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