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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Restore Wellness, Help Squad, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505-55KRC, the talk station. Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 2: There it is.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's Friday. Ryan Thomas right here. Glad to
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  Speaker 1: be here, especially on a Friday. I always enjoy my
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  Speaker 1: Fridays for whatever reason. Just a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: weight lifted off the problems we've got to face in
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  Speaker 1: the world and talk about here on the 55KRC Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: Topics you can guide. I always like to point out
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  Speaker 1: listeners can decide which way we go. If you've got
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  Speaker 1: a phone call, you want to talk about some particular
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  Speaker 1: thing that's going on in the world, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, or
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  Speaker 1: pound 550 on AT & T phones. Coming up on
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  Speaker 1: the morning show, it is Friday, of course, Tech Friday
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  Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter, 630. Interest IT's Dave Hatter, which sponsors
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  Speaker 1: this segment. I'm proud to let you know that. Dave
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  Speaker 1: does us all great service every Friday at 630. Today,
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  Speaker 1: the University of Kentucky has installed artificial intelligence facial screening
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  Speaker 1: tech at residence halls. Now, if you're angry about flock cameras,
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  Speaker 1: are you angry about that? Dave's comments on that because
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  Speaker 1: Dave does not like flock cameras. Disconnect your LG television
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  Speaker 1: from the Internet now. Not tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: We'll explain why. Apparently a big brother's watching you or LG,
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  Speaker 1: the company's watching you. Dave details with Dave Hatter. And finally,
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  Speaker 1: who's tracking you? There's a new service that you can
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  Speaker 1: determine who is tracking you, and he will explain that
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  Speaker 1: to us as well. We're going to look at health
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  Speaker 1: on Friday. It's George Brenneman only. Keith Tenenfeld's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be here, but George has got some really wild
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  Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. It's health and politics. Get a
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  Speaker 1: load of the topics. And we've kind of scratched the
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  Speaker 1: surface of this when we talk about health care with
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  Speaker 1: George Brenneman. Restore Liberty is one of the things he does,
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  Speaker 1: but restorewellness.org is the other place. And so George is
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  Speaker 1: all about health, having taken stock in his own health
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  Speaker 1: some years ago and really just got on the bandwagon.
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  Speaker 1: So there's great resources, material, and information if you're looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to maybe deciding you're going to try to be better,
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  Speaker 1: more healthy. But over the years, it's George's position that
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  Speaker 1: we have been screwed. 1910, the move over to vegetable oil. 1958,
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  Speaker 1: the demonization of cholesterol. That's when everybody said you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have eggs anymore, which you're allowed to have now. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: science has caught up with the demonization of cholesterol. And
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  Speaker 1: why would they demonize cholesterol? Statin drugs, maybe?
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Some suggest, and though I do not know because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a research scientist, but statins may have a connection
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  Speaker 1: with Alzheimer's. You know, it's all involving fat. That's what
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  Speaker 1: your brain's made out of. But, well, I'm sure George
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  Speaker 1: We'll have something to say about that. 1977, yes, I
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  Speaker 1: remember this because I was in school and I was
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  Speaker 1: taught the food pyramid. Back in my day, it was 4432.
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  Speaker 1: If you remember that, if you're roughly my age, they
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  Speaker 1: had the jingles and songs, and that was when the
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  Speaker 1: teacher would wheel in the, what, 24-inch color television and
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  Speaker 1: plug it into the cable, the closed cable system, where
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  Speaker 1: someone in a media room would pop some form of vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it was a tape. I don't know. But then
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  Speaker 1: you would get the propaganda from whoever prepared these pyramid
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  Speaker 1: jingles and songs with young people dancing around talking about 4432.
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  Speaker 1: We don't do that pyramid anymore. And apparently it was
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  Speaker 1: really bad for us. It may be one of the
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  Speaker 1: reasons we're so obese in this country. Way too many carbohydrates. Finally,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about the 2019 COVID scandal. Boy, that one's
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  Speaker 1: fresh in our minds, isn't it? Good topics with George. George, again,
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  Speaker 1: will join the program at 7.05. He'll be in studio
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  Speaker 1: for an hour of health talk. And we'll get Brian
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  Speaker 1: Eibel back, the Help Squad, Westside Charitable Organization. And, of course,
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  Speaker 1: I am certain, given what the Help Squad does, helping
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  Speaker 1: people get over temporary hurdles. You know, Brian and the
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  Speaker 1: team at the Help Squad do a really good job
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  Speaker 1: vetting people. So someone comes in and says, I can't
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  Speaker 1: make this month's rent payment because, well, maybe my car
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  Speaker 1: quit working or something. A minor hurdle. They vet them,
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  Speaker 1: and then they provide that financial assistance on a temporary basis,
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  Speaker 1: allowing people to stay in their homes or maybe get
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  Speaker 1: their car repaired so they can continue to earn a living.
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  Speaker 1: It's really important work, and with the price of fuel
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  Speaker 1: and gasoline and inflation, generally speaking, going up, I can
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  Speaker 1: only imagine the help squad, a number of people in
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  Speaker 1: need has increased. Brian will certainly clarify that at 8.05.
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  Speaker 1: Followed by Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network, gas
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  Speaker 1: tax relief. That's, Amy Acton wants it. Vivek Ramaswamy wants it.
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  Speaker 1: Mike DeWine does not want it. How about that? Sherrod
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  Speaker 1: Brown's voting record? Yes, we need to go over that because, well, 100%
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  Speaker 1: lockstep with the Democrat Party. So if they advance left-wing
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  Speaker 1: communist socialist platforms and principles, he's going to vote for them.
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  Speaker 1: You want that? And finally, news agencies press past battle
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  Speaker 1: with Trump.
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  Speaker 5: Indeed.
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  Speaker 1: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Real quick, why not? Because this is what
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying. You've talked about this, getting rid of this,
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  Speaker 1: suspending the gas tax in Ohio, suspend the diesel tax
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio, whatever you want to do, temporary relief. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, Donald Trump and the Republicans are now starting
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  Speaker 1: to suggest embracing the oil embargo by not selling our
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  Speaker 1: diesel on the global market. European Union is pulling their
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  Speaker 1: hair out of that. Come on, we're buying this stuff
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  Speaker 1: off you.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they don't build refineries. And, in fact, NATO Secretary
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  Speaker 1: General just said this the other day. You know, no refineries,
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  Speaker 1: shutting down your refineries. He called it a big worry
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  Speaker 1: for defense. it's the refining capacity in Europe. He said, well,
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  Speaker 1: what we're seeing now is no new refineries being built
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  Speaker 1: in Europe. We are seeing that refineries are being closed down.
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  Speaker 1: And if war breaks out, if the Russians would attack,
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  Speaker 1: which is something that was said the other day, I
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  Speaker 1: believe it was Norway talking about, well, they're preparing for
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  Speaker 1: the Russians to invade a NATO country. Whether or not
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  Speaker 1: that's true, I don't know. But obviously this is a
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  Speaker 1: subject matter that's got our noted, notable elected officials and
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  Speaker 1: others in governments a little bit worried. hmm, if war
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  Speaker 1: breaks out, are we going to have any fuel to
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  Speaker 1: fund the tanks and vehicles and, well, and all the
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  Speaker 1: other things that run on diesel fuel, and notwithstanding the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we need more jet fuel, etc.? It's all connected.
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  Speaker 1: So no refineries being built in Europe. He said, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing refineries are being closed down, and if war
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  Speaker 1: breaks out, if the Russians would attack and we defend ourselves,
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  Speaker 1: we need massive amounts of diesel and other products for
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  Speaker 1: our F-35s, our fighter jets, for our tanks, etc. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big worry. But of course... That is not directly
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  Speaker 1: linked to whatever is playing out between the EU and U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know what that means, but yeah. We stop selling diesel,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to suffer. And the refineries have pointed out
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  Speaker 1: that if you start, we have too much diesel production.
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  Speaker 1: We sell more than we make every day. Manufacturing diesel
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  Speaker 1: also results in the manufacture of other fuel products like
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  Speaker 1: jet fuel and gasoline. And if you don't have any
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  Speaker 1: place to put the diesel that you're no longer selling abroad,
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  Speaker 1: then things get backed up and everything else from a
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  Speaker 1: supply chain standpoint starts to break down. But what have
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  Speaker 1: I been saying? You vote for the commies, you vote
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  Speaker 1: for the Democrats because you're paying $ 6. 50 for diesel. Or
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  Speaker 1: as I paid yesterday, yeah, it's premium. I know I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to buy a car that required premium, but
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 3: $ 5.
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  Speaker 1: 85 a gallon. Yeah, you start getting worried. But what
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  Speaker 1: are you voting for if you vote for the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: because you're pissed off that Trump started the war against
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians? Kim Strassel, doing what I have been doing,
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  Speaker 1: although articulating it much better, which is why I'm giving
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  Speaker 1: her props for mentioning her words, because I've been pointing
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  Speaker 1: this out all along. You're voting for a party that
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  Speaker 1: wants you to pay more for gas and diesel. What
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  Speaker 1: she writes, vote for the party that is temporarily making
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  Speaker 1: your diesel fuel more expensive, or to vote for the
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  Speaker 1: party that wants to lock you up for wanting diesel
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  Speaker 1: that works. Not quite Shakespeare, but for millions of blue-collar Americans...
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  Speaker 1: This is the 2026 question. Welcome to the diesel wars
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  Speaker 1: which show the limits of modern-day populism. Astute she is.
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  Speaker 1: As both parties chase working-class voters, diesel prices proving a
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  Speaker 1: made-for-politics moment. Which party can better address voters' pain? Average
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  Speaker 1: price of diesel, $ 6. 51 a gallon, double where it was
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  Speaker 1: in January. Killing farmers who fill combines and irrigation pumps.
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  Speaker 1: Truckers on long hauls. Construction workers on excavators and cranes. Loggers...
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  Speaker 1: Go on. Everything. The delivery of groceries to your grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: She says Republicans are shaking so hard they can mix
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  Speaker 1: redneck martinis, whatever the hell that means. This was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be the election in which Republicans solidified Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 1: blue-collar gains after two years back in the White House.
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  Speaker 1: Worst vote-buying impulses. Nice subtle point there, Kim. Only it
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  Speaker 1: turns out that phony populist pitches don't translate into broad
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  Speaker 1: economic gain and, more importantly, I would argue, the voters
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  Speaker 1: have short memories. Where's the love for no tax on tips?
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  Speaker 1: Or prescription drug price controls? Which he did do. Can't
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  Speaker 1: Iowa farmers trust that tariffs are creating jobs instead of
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  Speaker 1: obsessing over fertilizer prices? Did nobody hear the president's promise
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  Speaker 1: of $ 5, 000 checks? Add in soaring diesel costs, the temporary...
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  Speaker 1: consequence of a policy with actual principle denying Iran its
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  Speaker 1: nuclear terror threat.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's the goal that is to be accomplished. The pain
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  Speaker 1: that you're going to feel as a consequence of denying
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  Speaker 1: Iran its nuclear terror threat is a temporary increase in
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  Speaker 1: diesel and gas. The president, to his credit so far,
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  Speaker 1: isn't wilting under pressure, rushing to cut a bad deal
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  Speaker 1: to open the Strait of Hormuz, but he has done
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  Speaker 1: no job of explaining his strategy for ending the war.
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  Speaker 1: and his candidates are panicking. Thus, the side of the
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  Speaker 1: GOP pandering even harder, racing to back a diesel fuel
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  Speaker 1: export ban. Such a plan would trade possible slight decreases
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  Speaker 1: in diesel prices for longer-term industry problems, even as it
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  Speaker 1: hikes gasoline and jet fuel costs. This seems not to
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  Speaker 1: have occurred to Republicans and the way to address the
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  Speaker 1: diesel question is to point to the bigger picture. The
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  Speaker 1: real choice blue-collar workers face in November is between short-term
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  Speaker 1: price hikes for a good cause and the eventual death
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  Speaker 1: of diesel, what the Democrats want. Fatal flaw of the
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  Speaker 1: left's own new populist chase for the working class. They
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  Speaker 1: don't mean it. They've recruited candidates who look and walk
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  Speaker 1: like the real working deal. Graham Platner, the oysterman, Troy Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: the fifth generation logger, Dan Osborne, the mechanic, Dave Cantrell,
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  Speaker 1: the electrician. But they belong to the party that is
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  Speaker 1: wedded to as radical a climate agenda as ever with
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  Speaker 1: the prime goal of eliminating fossil fuels. Moreover, the party
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  Speaker 1: remains resolutely on the wrong side of the other diesel
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  Speaker 1: question raging. Blowing out of touch media's notice. Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever heard of DEF, my friends in the listening audience?
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  Speaker 1: Neither have I. The DEF war, she writes, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: scratching my head. What in the hell is that? Diesel
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  Speaker 1: owners remain furious over a Clinton-era mandate inflicting diesel rigs
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  Speaker 1: with the dumbest equipment invented by man. Diesel exhaust fluid
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  Speaker 1: or DEF systems. The unnecessary emission controls or pure money-sucking
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  Speaker 1: junk spiraling up initial costs requiring regular purchase of pricey DEF.
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  Speaker 1: The filters clog at low speeds or cold temperatures. Burner
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  Speaker 1: units back up. Sensors break constantly. Failure rates extreme. Big
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  Speaker 1: Brother fits all of its DEF rigs, including pickups, tractors,
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  Speaker 1: and construction equipment, with kill switches. Get a load of this.
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  Speaker 1: If you fail to add a DEF, or more likely
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  Speaker 1: your subpar equipment malfunctions, the computer limits the rig to
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  Speaker 1: 5 miles an hour. Limp mode. Rendering it useless until
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  Speaker 1: you shell out thousands for repairs.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: You ever heard of that? You can get rid of it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to read the rest of the article because
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram's in the studio. Tell us about this crazy lockdown.
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  Speaker 1: We are in a world of slowdowns with the I-75 shutdown.
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram, man, I'm... So this weekend's weekend, I-75 north
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  Speaker 1: and south closures begin. Some are permanent.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us.
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  Speaker 6: What else you got?
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what?
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  Speaker 6: Forever.
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  Speaker 1: How many presidential administrations, when campaigning, said we need to
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  Speaker 1: replace the Brent Spence Bridge? Well, we finally got what
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  Speaker 1: we asked for, and we need to deal with the
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  Speaker 1: pain as a consequence.
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  Speaker 6: And it's going to take a few years for the
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  Speaker 6: pain part.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, boiled down, what are we looking at this weekend, Chuckie?
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  Speaker 6: Well, let's talk about the bad news first.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, please.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 6: That's North and Southbound 75. Going to be shut down,
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  Speaker 6: start a little bit later on tonight. Full closure on
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  Speaker 6: North and Southbound at 11 o'clock. So northbound, you'll be
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  Speaker 6: having to exit that Fort Washington way for the weekend. Southbound,
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  Speaker 6: you're going to have to exit at Freeman. It's the
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  Speaker 6: last chance you'll have to exit off of the highway.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 6: Because they're going to start putting the new steel beams
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  Speaker 6: in for the Lynn Street overpass, which they tore down
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  Speaker 6: earlier this year.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: So that's the project for the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then that'll reopen after Monday?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That's a quick turnaround on that project over the weekend.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't want anybody driving underneath there.
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  Speaker 1: Of course not.
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  Speaker 6: There must be big problems. I'll have to ask a
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  Speaker 6: lawyer about that.
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  Speaker 1: Ask anybody here to drive into the Western Hills Viaduct
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  Speaker 1: with stuff falling down on them. You don't want to
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  Speaker 1: do that in a construction site.
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  Speaker 6: It's bad enough. Exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: So what are the other components of this?
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  Speaker 6: Well, the biggie is what we're going to notice come
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  Speaker 6: Monday morning. You'll no longer be able to use 6th
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  Speaker 6: Street Viaduct ramp to Southbound 75.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Sixth Street Viaduct coming into town, usually go to Southbound 75.
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  Speaker 6: You won't be able to do that until January of
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  Speaker 6: next year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, as they start. That's the biggie come Monday. This
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  Speaker 6: is after the closure on 75 this weekend. Now, I
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  Speaker 6: give you a little bit of good news in that
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  Speaker 6: you get a sixth lane available now at 5th and
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  Speaker 6: Central when all of this is done. So you have
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  Speaker 6: more room to come in and you can turn left
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  Speaker 6: on Central.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 6: That'll help. And then there's a, I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: you recall, Southbound 75, they were adding this temporary ramp
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  Speaker 6: to 3rd Street.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It's done.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
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  Speaker 6: So you'll be able to use that to kind of
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  Speaker 6: avoid a little bit of congestion into downtown.
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  Speaker 1: So they're playing smart with the phases.
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  Speaker 6: Trying to.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Trying to. I will give them credit on this, is
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  Speaker 6: trying to keep us up to date of what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: They're doing a pretty good job of keeping the information out.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't stop the headaches. It won't stop all of that.
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  Speaker 6: But if you wanted to follow along, what did he
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  Speaker 6: just say? It's all at Brent Spence Bridge Corridor dot com.
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  Speaker 1: You can see the development and the stages and when
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  Speaker 1: the next events are going to come.
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  Speaker 6: You can even take a virtual tour and see what
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  Speaker 6: it's going to look like after it's done.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Chuck, in addition, you're breaking it down for us.
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  Speaker 1: I will give credit to the various social media, local
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  Speaker 1: media outlets. Fox 19 is what I'm staring at. The
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  Speaker 1: details are printed in all local media, so you can
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  Speaker 1: look at it or go to the website you talked about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Plan ahead if you're going to be using 75 around
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  Speaker 1: the downtown Cincinnati area, northern Kentucky, right?
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  Speaker 6: Well, right, except that there's also a pretty good project
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  Speaker 6: going on on 275 this weekend with a paving project.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, they're out there right now. They're wrapping things
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  Speaker 6: up overnight. But you're going to have to deal with
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  Speaker 6: eastbound 275. It's going to have three lanes shut down
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  Speaker 6: between 747 and 42. Oh, okay. That's the ongoing paving
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  Speaker 6: project that's going there, too. So keep that in mind.
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  Speaker 6: Downtown isn't the only problem this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Okay. Maybe just hang out at home this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram, we listen to traffic reports all morning. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for stopping in and give us the live update.
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  Speaker 6: Anytime.
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  Speaker 1: You're a good man.
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  Speaker 6: I try.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. 521-55KRC Talk Station.
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  Speaker 5: Be right back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Donald J.
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  Speaker 6: Trump, and I approve this message.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Don. Hit it 5.23 on a Friday. Let
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  Speaker 1: me get it out of the system. Yeah, real quick.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Those dev systems on the semis, which fail all the
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: time and are thousands of dollars to keep in place
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: and literally do nothing except drive up the price of, well,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: anybody driving a diesel truck, Democrats. under the Biden administration,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: they were suing anybody who deleted the DEF system. There
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: was an underground market created because, well, you need to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: get around these systems which slow your semi down to
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: five miles an hour. Felonies, throwing people in jail for
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: doing this. Democrats continue en masse, she writes, to support
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the deaf regime railing against reform efforts. This is the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: party that wants to kill fossil fuels, but also wants
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Americans to believe it cares about their diesel costs. Republicans
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: are trying to rein in the failure. EPA changed the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: rules on deaf. There are bills to roll back or
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: even eliminate these costly, stupid requirements, and all in the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: name of climate change. They ended all the criminal prosecutions
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: for these death fines. Trump pardoned nine men who were
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: convicted of disabling these death systems. Lessons for Republicans, limited
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: government policies still resonate with voters. Lessons for Democrats, it's
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the policy, not the spin that matters. Lessons for both parties,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Strassel writes, most populist pitches amount to phony pandering and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Voters want, at some point, you to realize it. Pat,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Happy Friday.
• 17:25
  Speaker 9: Thank you, Brian. I just want to put ads up.
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: Since the second week of July, well, until now, yesterday
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: I had a total of 29 phone calls. The last
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: one was at 6.46 p.m., and apparently it's got to
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: do with Medicare updates. I don't answer the phone unless
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: I see a name on my phone.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Good for you.
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: But anyway, um, I don't know how many other elderly
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: people are getting these calls, but I've been writing them
• 18:01
  Speaker 9: down and, uh, Like I said, the last call I've
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: had was, it's 29 for yesterday.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's renewal time, Pat, and everybody wants a
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: slice of your business because they want you to use
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: whatever agency out there that's peddling the sub-policies or whatever
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it is. They get a fee for signing people up,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: kind of like Obamacare. And as we fast approach renewal date,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and John Roman from CoverSensing, my insurance friend, yes, I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: do commercials for him, but you know that what they
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: do is for free to you, is recommending anybody out
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: there on Medicare schedule an appointment to go over the changes,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the changes that are coming out October 15th. So don't
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: automatically renew. Make sure you know what the changes are
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: before you make your Medicare selections, and you won't have
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: any trouble. But, yeah, this is when the phone calls
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: start lighting up, and you are smart for not answering them.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Big time smart. If you don't recognize the number, trust me,
• 18:52
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• 18:56
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Tom. Good to hear from you this morning.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Happy Friday, brother.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Hey, good morning. Any big plans for the weekend?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably going to go to the Concours de
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Vue on Sunday.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, I remember you mentioning that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a big dinner out this weekend, too,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of friends. So, yeah, it's going to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: be a nice weekend. And the weather, oh, my God.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Might have to actually get on my motorcycle for what
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I think will be the first time this entire year. Anyhow, Tom,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: what's up?
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Really? Really? You're waiting until now, huh? The weather never
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: worked out for you?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: No, it's the desire to ride the motorcycle has kind
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: of gone by the wayside of my world. First off,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I don't have a crew to ride with anymore. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: second off, while I do enjoy driving, and yes, I'm
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: aware that driving does come with some risks, it comes
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: with much greater risk on a motorcycle when people out
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: on the road are really definitionally idiots.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: There we go. Yeah, so it reminds me, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: every once in a while I'll have a gripe about
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: some driving, and very, very irritating is when you're not
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: the first person in line at a light, and the
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: person up front is not paying attention to the light.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: I hate that. That is very, very annoying. And especially when,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: like yesterday, I was second in line, and the guy
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: up front in line, he's inching up. You know, you
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: just As you're waiting for the light to turn green,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: you inch up a little bit. All right, so this guy,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: he's ready to go. As soon as that thing turns green,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: he's going to go.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: As soon as it turns green, still break lights. I'm like, ah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: what are you doing, bro?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: He's checking his text messages. Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Ah, he must have been.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Surfing porn on his cell phone.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, well, let's not go there, but maybe.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, I'm telling you, multiple years ago, some guy
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: came flying down 71 at 3 o'clock in the morning
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: on my way to work. He's got a laptop on
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: his dashboard, and there is pornography streaming on it. I'm like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: what in God's name?
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Can't wait until you're somewhere private, huh? That's crazy. That's crazy.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: You're reading that article from Kim Strassel, and the whole
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: idea is, is that we've just got to be smart
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: about what we're doing. You've just got to be informed.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, you don't even have to be brilliant or
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: a genius. You've just got to pay attention and be
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: informed of what's going on. A lot of this stuff
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: is just common sense in front of you. To vote
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: for Democrats is absolutely stupid. You're either completely clueless as
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: to what's going on in the world, or you believe
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: the stuff that they believe and that you're definitely stupid. No,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: they want to ruin everything.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Well, look at the European Union. They're ahead of us
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: in this global warming eradication of fossil fuel game. And
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: now they're like, oh, my God, we can't afford to
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: keep the lights on. Germany's economy is in a downward spiral.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Nobody can afford to pay for energy because, well. They
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: deleted all of the reliable, constant-producing energy sources out there.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Not going to use gas, not going to use diesel,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: not going to use coal. Let's shut down the nuclear plant.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That's a good idea. Holy crap, we're in the middle
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: of a war. We need diesel fuel. United States, please
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: don't turn it off because we won't have any.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: And by the way, they're asking us not to. to
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: turn it off i thought we were the bad guys
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: yeah i know we were the worst the worst civilization
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: in the world yeah the way the way we get
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: talked about and treated around the world it's absolutely insane
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: and it's an oxymoron because they they refer to us
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: as such bad names and yet yet who all where's
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: everybody flocking to where's everybody running to.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: And where do they turn when they need defense weapons.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Us exactly please tell us.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Why because you don't make any And you deleted your
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: militaries over the years because we've been shouldering the burden
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: protecting you from the evil Soviet Union or the Russians
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: or whatever threat they face. Oh, let's spend all of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: our money on windmills rather than our military until such
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: time as we're like, holy crap, someone caught on to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: what's happening. Donald Trump.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Reality eventually smacks you in the face and reminds you,
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: don't vote Democrat. Have a great weekend.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Do the same.
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: Oh, wow.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Joe, get the award out. We're going to get to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: award local person, and this is disgusting. And you know what?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I could go on all day long, but we only
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of time here for local stories.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: So let's have a go at this guy. Coleraine Township,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: man arrested. And believe it or not, in Hamilton County
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Municipal Court, he got a $ 4 million bond. Why? He
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: raped and sexually abused a child. Stephen Togby, 57, taken
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: into custody on Monday, charged with two counts of rape,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: three counts of sexual battery, and unlawful sexual contact. Conducted
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: with a minor. Reportedly abused the child beginning October 25
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and continued abusing the child in November and January of
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: this year. Currently held at the Hamilton County Justice Center.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Expected to be back in court October 2nd. So he'll
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: be in prison until October 2nd, presumably. I'll bet he's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: enjoying himself. And he is the 55KRC award winner for
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this morning.
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: Here he is, the biggest douche of the universe. In
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: all the galaxies, there's no bigger douche than you. You've
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: reached the top, the pinnacle of douchedom.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Good going, douche.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Your dreams have come true. Stack of Stupid coming up next.
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• 25:41
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• 25:44
  Speaker 1: over to the stack of stupid. And who is teaching
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: your children in school? Joe Strecker, you know. Isn't it
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: shocking to you, Joe? I don't know what your subjective
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: opinion is about the mug shots. These teachers all are,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, kind of cute. They look like they
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: could go out into the world and get someone who is, oh,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, not a student. Perhaps closer to their
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: own age. Someone who's maybe an adult. Every single day.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Got a few of them. Hayesville, North Carolina.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Got a former teacher in North Carolina. Cherokee County Sheriff
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Derek Palmer letting us know the details on this one.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: She's 26. Her name is Kayla Sprinkles. Got arrested in June,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: now facing sexual assault charges. Investigation began in March. Sheriff's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: office said investigators began looking into reports that Sprinkles had
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: been engaging in sex acts with a student while working
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: as a high school teacher in the Cherokee County school system.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Multiple students interviewed during the investigation. They even had to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: bring in a special child advocacy center to talk to
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: some of the children because of the young ages of
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the individual's review. They were a little worried, I guess,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that the police might not be as delicate as a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: child might need. Anyway, they were investigated and people were
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: talked to. Now, apparently, she learned about the indictment, so
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: she left the county, but did later turn herself in
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to the Mecklenburg County Detention Center, served with the indictments,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and released on a $ 25, 000 unsecured bond. Of course, the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: school district And the Sheriff's Department released these standard statements
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: about protecting the children's best interests. Pivoting over. Prep school
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: math teacher in North Carolina. Arrested for having inappropriate sexual
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: contact with three male students. 25-year-old Erin Elizabeth McAuliffe. Charged
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: with three counts of sexual activity with a student. One
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: count of indecent liberties with a minor. former math teacher
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: at Rocky Mount Prep School. Last employed at the school,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: May 4th, just one day before the police were notified
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: by school staffers about the allegations he was having sex
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: with students. Now, police have since alleged the acts took
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: place off campus and involved two 17-year-old students and one 16-year-old.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Released from the Carteret County Jail after posting a $ 20, 000 bond. Now,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: at least this particular situation, and she is quite cute,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: my subjective opinion, she could do better than going out
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with an 18-year-old, her name, Taylor Ivy Bonkhouse. She's 22,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: so that just makes them four years apart. But she
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: has been accused of having sex with a pupil. Sexual
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: assault charges. She was involved with an 18-year-old student at
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Conrad High School in West Hartford. Bonnacle allegedly met the
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: teen in December while employed as a student teacher at
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the school. After she completed her fall student teaching stint,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: she remained on the faculty as an assistant track coach.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Authorities claim that she invited this teenager to her home
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: on numerous occasions, and yeah, of course, they had sex.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Police said she stated the victim was kind to her. Also,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: she stated that she loved the victim and was emotional
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: regarding her feelings for him. Which, again, stepping back from
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the nature of the relationship, teacher-student relationship, If it was
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: just a random 22-year-old and an 18-year-old, we probably wouldn't
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: look down our nose at it. Of course, Principal Julio Duarte,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: with his standard statement, we will not tolerate any behavior
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that compromises the safety and well-being of our students, nor
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: should you. But this seems to be a growing phenomenon.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And again, I wrestle with, until I talked to law
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: enforcement members about this, I thought, well, this is the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: internet age. Every single illustration of this in any corner
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: of the world can appear as if it's right in
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: your neighborhood. And the volume of them may be sort
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: of explained away because before the internet, this probably was
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: going on all the time that nobody could document it,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: track it, prove the allegations. But I don't know, others
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: are saying the Internet, in fact, has created this larger
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: desire that we've thrown out our ethics and morals and
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: even common sense because we are so sexualized and we're
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: surrounded by this. The idea of adults having sex with children,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: some are trying to normalize it. It's awful, regardless of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the genesis. 545, 55 KRC, the talk station, more stupid,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: not relating to beautiful adult, Teachers having sex with, you know, minors.
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• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Back to the Statue of Liberty. And a return to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the norm after getting the sick, twisted teachers out of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the way. We're back to naked people in the news.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: As is tradition.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Amen, brother. Colorado Springs Police Department said a naked guy
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: acting confused and erratic inside a business on Academy Boulevard.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: took the keys to a vehicle, stole the car, drove
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the wrong way down Academy Boulevard and led police on
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a brief chase before later ending up in a crash.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: That's the summary. 3 a.m. Thursday, September 24th, officers showed
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: up at the 24-hour block in North Academy. Naked guy
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: reportedly inside a business. They said he initially appeared erratic
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and confused, then took the keys from someone inside the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: business and stole the company car. Described as a Ford Taurus,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: as if that matters. Officers at the Real Time Crime
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Center Piloted a drone, spotted the vehicle, reporting its location
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: over the radio to the officers who were on the scene.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Drone pilot observed multiple traffic violations, including driving the wrong
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: way again down Academy Boulevard. Pursuit authorized in the area
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: of Academy and Union Boulevard terminated because the roadway conditions
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and speed caused a public safety risk. I'm not sure
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: if I agree with that kind of thing. Let him go. Anyway,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: they said the drone lost sight of the vehicle after
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the pursuit was ended, but shortly thereafter, police responded to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a crash.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Near Austin Bluffs. One of the vehicles matching the suspect
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and vehicle descriptions. In other words, a naked guy in
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a Ford Taurus. Suspect, Christopher Gonzalez, found in the area
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and taken to custody without further incident and the vehicle
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: was recovered.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Let's see here. More naked guy. We'll go to Bedford, Bedford,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: New York. New York State Police arrested 56-year-old Darian, uh,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: a Darien, Connecticut man, sorry, this after a report of
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a public lewdness incident in the Belford service area. Troopers
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: responded approximately 3.30 in the morning and found Virgil Navida
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: naked and exhibiting signs of impairment. They administered standard field
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: sobriety tests, then took him into custody, impounded an inventory
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: search of his vehicle, uncovered approximately 66 grams of gamma borax, Butrolactone, GBL.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe you know what that is. I didn't know.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Drugs are bad.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yep, 49 grams of butanediol, 7 grams of methamphetamine, as
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: well as a bunch of drug paraphernalia. He was charged
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: with criminal possession of controlled substances in the third degree,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: possession of controlled substance in the seventh degree, three counts
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of public lewdness, three counts. I wonder what those three
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: specific counts relate to. Anyway, operating a motor vehicle while
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: impaired on drugs. Arraigned September 24th, released on his own recognizance. Oh,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it sounds like something happened in Hamilton County. Let's see here.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: 49-year-old South Dakota woman accused of exposing herself near children.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: What?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: And asking them if they want to be kidnapped. According
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to police, Jackie Tingwa arrested on Friday.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: What?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Court records show that she's now facing multiple charges, including
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: sexual exploitation of a minor and disorderly conduct. According to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: local news, police said officers were called to the scene
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: back quarter after 7 in the evening after numerous callers
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: claimed the woman was behaving erratically near children. Callers said
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the woman was naked or even exposing herself at an
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: apartment complex and carrying a gun. You think she had
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a holster, Joe? Phrasing? Anyway, according to local news, Tingwa
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: approached children and asked whether they would like to be kidnapped.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: The children ran away. According to the report, police said
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a neighbor saw Tingwa holding a two-year-old child and trying
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to lead the toddler away from other children. Callers reported
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: she potentially had a gun. Authorities said police did not
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: find the weapon. Joe, maybe they weren't looking hard enough.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of other stupid stories we've had over
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the years. Outlets and officers were approached by several children
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: who pointed to where the woman was standing. Officers then
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: detained her. Investigation described as ongoing. And finally, Memphis, Tennessee,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: two people arrested. Police said they forced a man to
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: strip naked, shot him in the leg, and then punched
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: his teeth out.
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: Dude, what the hell?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Bailey Jobin and Joseph Polk arrested following the incident. Jobin
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: charged with especially aggravated robbery. There's a new one for me.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Polk charged with especially aggravated robbery, employment of a firearm
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: during the commission of a dangerous felony, being a felon
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: in possession of a firearm, theft of property, $ 2, 500 to $ 10, 000,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: which was a motor vehicle in this case, evading arrest,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: and not having a valid driver's license. The aristocrat.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: The aristocrat.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Right. Apparently, during the incident, a man reported a robbery
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to the Memphis police. Victim picked up by a man
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: he knew as Jay Pointer, later identified as Mr. Polk,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: taken to a home near Pope Street. A man referred
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to as One-Legged Jay arrived at the address and demanded
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: money from the victim. The victim made to strip naked,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: then all occupants left the vehicle. The victim told the man,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to kill me here. At that point,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Polk pulled out a handgun and shot him through the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: right thigh. Get what you asked for, baby. Records state
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the two-owned man started punching the victim in the head
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and then knocked out several of his teeth. The victim
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: identified the people responsible for the assault. Let's see. They
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: found the various victims. They used flock cameras which showed
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the car in the area where this incident happened. Anyway,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the Polk guy was taken in for questioning. But due
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: to admitting he was under the influence of multiple intoxicants,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: he was deemed incompetent to render a statement to investigators.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Bond information yet to be posted. He's expected to appear
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: in court actually today if you're in the area. 5.56,
• 36:41
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• 36:44
  Speaker 1: top of the hour and Tech Fridays. Dave Hatter at 6.30.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I sure hope you can stick around.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: It's been going on for a long time.
• 36:51
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• 36:55
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• 36:57
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• 36:58
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• 36:58
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• 36:59
  Speaker 3: One moment.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Maureen is pausing because she has a comment. Of course,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: probably a conspiratorial-related subject matter, right, Maureen? Hold on. Tech
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Friday with Dave Hatter coming up at the bottom of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the hour. University of Kentucky has installed artificial intelligence facial
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: scanning tech at residence halls, which is going to be
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: interesting because Dave Hatter does not like flawed cameras. He's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: a privacy guy. So what about your, well, your college-age
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: students having AI facial scanning technology in residence halls for
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: their own safety? Disconnect your LG television from the Internet
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: right now. That's what Dave says. You're going to go
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: ahead and do it right now. You want to wait
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: for Dave to explain it. That's coming up quickly. And
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: who's tracking you? The new service out there that lets
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you find out who is tracking you. George Brenneman in
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: studio on health-related issues. Keith Tenenfeld can't make it today,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: but George has some great topics. Politics and health, including
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: how in God's name do we end up with vegetable oil,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: among others. Brian Eibold from the Help Squad, a great
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Westside charity, returns to the studio at 8.05 p.m. And
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: trust me, I imagine Brian is in need because a
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: lot of folks on the West Side on life's margins
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: are in need of a little helping hand. That's what
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the help squad does, get you over tough times on
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a temporary basis. And finally, it's Friday, so we get
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network. Gas tax relief,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of course, Acton and Ramaswamy are suggesting we need to
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: roll back the gasoline tax, the road tax. Mike DeWine
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: says no. Get used to that, don't you? Sherrod Brown
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: on his voting record. And finally, news agencies press relief.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Pass battle with Donald Trump. Of course, there was recent
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: court action on that. Jack, Windsor at 830. In the meantime,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: over to the phones. Let's see what Maureen's got. Maureen,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: thanks for calling. Happy Friday.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, Brian.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: I want to call about statins because you said George
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: is going to talk about that a little bit later.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: But while I was on hold, I heard you mention
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: flock cameras. And I just learned the other day that,
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: you know, the documentary 2000 Mules, when they showed the
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: video of the people dropping all these ballots.
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Boxes.
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: They, um, this person came out at a recent event, um,
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: and she talked about how they use flock cameras during
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: the filming of that video. That's where they got the
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: footage from. So that's how long we've had flock cameras.
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: But anyway.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know. And they were all the rage for
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a long time. Everybody embraced them, you know, police departments, communities, neighbors, because, well,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: they caught criminals that way. But now it's like, oh,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: we're all about privacy right now. So Maureen, are you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: suggesting that the anti-flock, outrage that we've seen over the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: last several months and growing is a consequence of, well,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: people who want to vote illegally are being caught on
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: camera stuffing ballot boxes?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Just asking, right?
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: Yes. Just putting it out there. People can take it
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: how they want.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: One crime among many that flocks can solve, which, of course,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: in the name of privacy, we don't want anymore. Go ahead, Maureen.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: Okay. So I just want to talk about the statins.
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: So about 20 years ago, I noticed my father was
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: having some cognitive issues. And at the same time, in 2006,
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: a book had just come out, and it was called Lipitor,
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: Thief of Memory, Statin Drugs, and the Misguided War on Cholesterol.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: And it was by Dr. Dwayne Graveline. He was a
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: former NASA scientist and an astronaut. And he describes in
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: this book his own experience of developing severe memory problems
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: while taking Lipitor. And he argues that statins And some
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: people can produce cognitive symptoms such as memory loss and confusion.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: And he used his experience to critique all cholesterol-lowering drugs.
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: But anyway, the emphasis was on brain fog and the
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: role of cholesterol in the brain and the nervous system
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: and how important the role that it plays. And he
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: argues that reducing cholesterol may have effects beyond cardiovascular disease.
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: And he discusses how in his own personal account, he
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: stopped taking them and his memory improved. Anyway, I told
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: my father about this book and he went to this
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: because he was on statins and he went to his
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: doctor and told his doctor about it. Well, his doctor
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: quickly dismissed him and said that he had not heard
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: any information about that. And so my dad followed his
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: advice and stayed on the statins. And he died a
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: few days later or a few weeks, a few years later.
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: But a few years later, he died and he had
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: severe dementia. At the time.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: Well, then I told another relative about it, and this
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: relative actually believed me. And so when he went to
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: his doctor, he argued with the doctor and said, I
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: don't want to be on those drugs. I've seen what
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: it can do to people. I've read the literature. Well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: the doctor argued with him. He labeled him as noncompliant.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: And he said, well, I don't know why you continue
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: to come to me. You seem to know everything already.
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: So he had a major attitude. So he found a
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: different cardiologist that was more in the wellness. you know, category.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Sure. Well, you know, Maureen, I've mentioned this over the years.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: My father, he was an early, early advocate of statins.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: His doctor put him on because dad had, I guess,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a genetic predisposition to high cholesterol, one that I actually
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: shared for a while, but I don't use statins. I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: did for a while until I started coming upon the
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: conclusion that maybe they weren't good for you. Dad took
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: him his entire life. Of course, he passed away from
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's dementia. I don't know if it's a connection. And here,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: here's AI for you. I just did a quick AI
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: search while I'm sitting here talking to you. Do statins
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: cause dementia? Current medical evidence indicates that statins do not
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: cause dementia. And large-scale reviews say that they actually even
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: lower the risk of cognitive decline. And then it breaks
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it down. So do you trust AI? Do you trust
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: what the doctor that wrote that book research indicates? Why
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: isn't that doctor's book specifically mentioned in the response I
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: just churned out here from AI? I don't know.
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Big Pharma's a pretty big business, so they
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: control a lot of areas.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Indeed, and it may be that we just, little dietary changes,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: which I know George Brenneman's going to be talking about
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: at 7.05, that may result in the best thing we
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: can possibly do. No, we don't need Medicare for all.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: We just need to change our diets, perhaps. Maureen, I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. You know, I have my popcorn perpetually out
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: for anything you throw at me. I'm just waiting to
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: get the answers like everybody else. I love you. Have
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a great weekend. She's great. Florida's great, too, isn't it, Maureen? Anyway,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: real quick, here's an idea. I just saw this a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: couple of days ago on Fox News reporting. There was
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: a research study out, Family Medicine and Community Health Study,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: came out in the Journal of Family Medicine and Community
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Health anyway. It was a study done among Americans, Europeans, Asians, Oceanians,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: 8.8 million of them, all adults, with follow-ups ranging between
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: 2 and 32 years. What do they conclude? For every
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: additional 100 grams of ultra-processed foods, just think of a
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: bag of chips, which is about 3 1⁄2 ounces, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: they are ultra-processed. 100 grams of processed food, 3 ounces daily.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Researchers found an association with a 14% higher risk of
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: cardiovascular events, a 4% higher risk of cancer, a 3%
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: higher risk of death from any cause, and a 2%
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: higher risk of metabolic syndrome or diabetes. Ultra-processed foods, you know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: extensive industrial processing packed with additives. If you start reading
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: labels and view anything that doesn't sound to you like
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: a naturally occurring ingredient, there's your additives, and they're pretty
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: bad for you. George will probably break that down too.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But anyway, 100 grams, again, 3 1⁄2-ounce bag of potato chips,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: corn chips, small box of candy, single-serve cup of mini cookies,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: higher the intake of UPFs, Higher risk of digestive diseases
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: as well. Depression, anxiety, obesity, cancer, cardiovascular events, and those
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: with the lowest intake of processed foods. So according to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the researchers, reducing the consumption of ultra-processed foods, replacing them
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: with minimally processed alternatives may be relevant for chronic disease
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: prevention and primary care management. Diet built around whole minimally
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: processed foods is one of the best investments we can
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: make in our long-term health. So don't be reactive and
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: don't expect the government to pay for your health care
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: treatment if you take better care of yourself up front.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: You probably won't even end up in the hospital or
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: being treated by a doctor for any one of these
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: disease states brought about by a poor diet. It's a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: simple solution, isn't it? Except it relies on us. We
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: have to take self-control and engage in self-control. And trust me, man,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I know better than anybody, or at least as good
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: as anybody, how difficult it is. I got George and Keith,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: my wife, my mom, and my sister to thank for
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: going on a diet a couple of years ago. And
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you know what? I tell you straight face. Was it easy?
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: No.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Is it difficult to say no to the carb corner?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: We got the corner cabinet like everybody or wherever your
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: cabinet happens to be. You know the one that you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: just find yourself standing in front of throughout the day
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: because that's where the chips and the carbs are hidden
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: or stored anyway. Yeah, I had to break myself of
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that habit. It sucked. But over time, it becomes easy.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: especially if you have a support group around you. So,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you know, at least I do feel better. I got
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: to pay off on it. And no, I haven't started
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: really engaging in exercise as much, but, you know, that's
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: my next step in the journey. But just paying attention
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to what you're eating, maybe you can avoid these problems.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: All of this is so well documented. This story and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: this new study doesn't reveal anything that I think most
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: of us didn't know because we've read other accounts of this,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: because our doctors have recommended it to us. because maybe
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: RFK Jr. has opened your eyes to it. I don't know.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: But we love to just do whatever in God's name
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it is we want to do, realizing and recognizing that
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: it's bad for us. And then when you end up
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: in front of a doctor with a chronic disease state,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people default to, well, someone
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: else should pay for it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I wonder what the overall cost, we live in a village, right?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: It takes a village and it takes a bunch of
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: people who are maybe you know, from each according to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: his ability to each according to his needs. We all
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: have the ability to take and reduce the amount of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: medical claims on society. This is a societal problem. Shouldn't
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: we join together hand in hand as a society to
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: reduce the societal burden of medical care and costs on society?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: How do you do that? Well, you don't tax somebody
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: into submission. Maybe we collectively get together and agree that
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: we're all going to try to take better care of ourselves.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Just a thought. 6-16, 55KRC Detox Station. And consider, yeah,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: 6-21 here, 55KRC Detox Station. Tech Friday with Dave Hatter
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: coming up next. Dave, are you happy?
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Yesterday's walk down memory lane with the author of the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: You Don't Look Like an Astronaut's Wife book. Just really
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: brought back fond memories of the late 60s and 70s
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: with the space program, which I was a child then,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and it just was amazing at that moment in time.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: So I was having that flashback. And I thought about
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: George Brenneman joining the program, and I was reminded of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: that 4-4-3-2 jingle, which related to the food pyramid that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: existed back in the 70s. It was four servings of
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: fruits and vegetables, four servings of breads and cereals, three
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: of milk, cheese, or dairy, and then finally two of meat.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: That's flipped upside down under the new standards. So why
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: were we fed that? But it was mulligan stew. Folks,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: you remember that? If you're in public schools, the U.S.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Department of Agriculture's campaign to tell you about 4432, that's
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: where it came from. I hadn't looked that up to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: remember that. So anyway, that jingle's going through my head.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I just gave it to Joe Strecker, so maybe he'll
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: play it for you later. Anyways, moving away from Medicare
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: as the solution to all of our problems, guess what?
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to fraud and the state of Ohio. Medicaid
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: rolls have been looked at. And according to Ohio Auditor
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Keith Faber, three. percent of Ohioans on Medicaid were not
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: eligible because they're too wealthy. More resources than allowed under
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: the criteria, including people they found were millionaires. 3,000 dead people,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: actually more than 3,000 dead people also on the rolls
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and benefits being paid. How? That's what Faber discovered. This
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: is part of an interim report covering Medicaid programs for
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the aged, blind, and disabled population. I love this. The
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: current state budget, and I'm giving the CincinnatiExchange.com props for
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the reporting on this, the current state budget required the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: auditor to review enrollment in those programs to determine whether
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Ohioans receiving assistance were actually eligible for support. Isn't that
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a fundamental role of the... auditor to follow that and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: do that? Prevent fraud from happening before it goes out
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the door? That's my thought anyway. But anyway, at least
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: they put a requirement in the current state budget. Ohio
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: spends about $ 40 billion annually on the program. Fun fact,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: $ 30 billion is Ohio's entire state budget annually. I know
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: this is federal dollars. Faber said the taxpayers of this
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: state should not be footing the bill for millionaires and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: others who have adequate means to pay their own way.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Time and time again, we've identified weaknesses in the Ohio
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Department of Medicaid systems that can lead to fraud, waste,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and abuse for public resources. The issues we have identified
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: have not been corrected. Apparently, he identified some of the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: reasons for incorrect payments. including eligibility reviews that are not
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: performed more frequently and outdated versions of applications. Huh, sound
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: like easy solutions. So the solutions, tighter guardrails for the
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Medicaid program, improving better data collection and sharing. He pointed
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to the Ohio has always followed sort of a pay
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: and chase model, you know, pay out the benefits and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: then find out later, that they're not eligible for the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: benefits that were paid out, and then try to claw
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: them back. Good luck with that. A lot more expensive
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to do that, too. He pointed out that, actually, one
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: other person involved with this pointed out that organized fraud
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: rings exploit weak verification systems and pressure patients to sign
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: timesheets for care they never receive. That in the context
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: of home care services, which are growing. Because, of course,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: the cost of keeping a loved one in a facility
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: outside the home is unbelievably expensive. So they're still working
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: on it. They've identified some areas. Just scratch your head
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: and wonder where have they been up until this moment
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: in time. Going back to would we know about any
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: of this were it not for the outright rampant fraud
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  Speaker 3: Always good to be here. And sadly, Brian, you are correct.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Mayor of Fort Wright, is that hat you
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  Speaker 1: got on? You don't have flock cameras in your neighborhood,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: do you, Dave? Because you don't like them. They're choosing
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: into privacy?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: We do not. Okay.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: How about the universe? We've not had them. not going
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: to have them is the university of kentucky installing artificial
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: intelligence facial scanning technology any different really just on a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: broader view than flock cameras.
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  Speaker 3: Um not in my opinion no with with the possible
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: exception brian of you know if you go to uk
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: or pick any college right fill in the blank right
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  Speaker 3: you choose to go there that's the option um Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: As a student, you're choosing to go there. As an employee,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: you choose to work there, et cetera. So in my mind,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: it's a little different. And also, depending on how the
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: technology works and who has access to that data and
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: so forth, versus you're just driving down the street and
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: you're getting sucked up by all these cameras. So I
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: think you could potentially make an argument that it's not
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: as invasive and intrusive as what has been done with Flock.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not a fan of the idea in general.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: You know, this stuff is abused. It's misused. There are
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: data and security problems with these things.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. And they try to address that. I saw the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: WKYT article that you have over at linkedin.com as a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: resource material. They pointed out a couple of things. Okay.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Much like you have a choice whether or not to
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: go to UK and face this technology. But they said
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: it's optional. You sign up for it and you agree
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to have your face scanned so AI can let you
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: in or out of residence building. Now, a card, as
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: everyone knows, can get lost or stolen. Of course, it
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: can be duplicated and scanned. And that was kind of
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the point they were making, why they were embracing this technology.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: But you're not forced to use it. But also, and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I wanted you to address this because it sounds good,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. In terms of who gets the
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: data and where it's stored and how it's stored, they
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: say they don't store it, but they only keep a
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: digital map of the face, which is ones and zeros.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: It's a mathematical layout, so it's not actually a photograph.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: In today's technological realities, Dave, is ones and zeros, digital
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: mapping of someone's face really any different than a photograph?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not a mathematician, Brian, so I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: I can answer that with the same certainty that the
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: people who've built this stuff can. But in general, I
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: would put it this way. A, your photo's probably already
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: out there somewhere anyway, so I'm less concerned about that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: But in terms of, this isn't just your biometric data,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: it's your activity data. Let's just say, for example, someone
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: wanted to stalk you or something and they could access
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: this data. And I know this sounds far-fetched to people sometimes,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: but if you look at the security of some of
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: these systems that have been exposed in the recent past,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: it's terrible, right? These things are all, in general, my
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: issue with so much of this stuff is as a
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: guy who was a software engineer for 25 years, software,
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: which is what powers all of this stuff, call it AI,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: call it whatever you want, at the end of the day,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: it's still software. And generally speaking, most software is not
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: designed with privacy and security in mind. It's designed with
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: things like speed to market, market share, ease of use, timelines, budgets,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: and collecting as much data as possible. And we see
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: how either terrible security and or misconfiguration which is basically
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: nerd speak for there were options you could have turned
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: on and did not, which then led to some kind
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: of security issue. Because even if I build something that
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: is like the Fortress of Solitude, if it's not configured correctly, right,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: if you leave the front door unlocked, well, what good
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: is it? So it's not just the biometric data itself,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: it's all the other data these things collect. Again, where
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: does this data go? Is it only accessible to UK data?
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Is it accessible to the company that built this stuff?
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: What are they doing with it? What are their terms
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: of service say? We've talked about this so many times, Brian.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Most of the time, terms of service is an 80-page
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: confusopoly of mumbo-jumbo that even if you're an attorney, you
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: may not understand. So I have those concerns above and
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: beyond the biometrics. But generally speaking, the way these things
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: work is, yes, they look at some aspect of your
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: your physical form, right? Iris, retina, fingerprint, gate, gate, face,
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: something like that. And they reduce that down to some
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: sort of math, through a mathematical algorithm to just data, right?
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Measures the distance between your eyes. It measures the height
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: of your nose. Again, I'm not truly an expert on
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: the inner workings of that stuff, but I will say this,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: you know, depending on how that works, You know, you
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: can't get a new fingerprint. You can't get a new face.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I wish I could, but I can't.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Because I'd get like Brad Pitt or something. But, you know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I can't I can't do that. So, yeah, I have
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of concerns about this. And frankly, I am
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: not a fan of the Orwellian surveillance state that we
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: seem to be headed towards. And I'm happy that the
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: people are starting to question these things. And I just
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: want to say one last thing because Flock has caught
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: all the news.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Flock is not the only company that's making this. Flock
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: has sort of become the Kleenex or the Coke of
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: this space. But there are lots of companies that are
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: making this kind of technology. And just because someone doesn't
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: have Flock doesn't mean they don't have something else. So
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: I'm glad people are questioning this. I do not like
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: the overall direction. I can tell you that.
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• 58:01
  Speaker 1: This was, well, the headlines enough to be, whoa, do
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I even, I don't have an LG television, thank God,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: but disconnect your LG television from the internet now, reads
• 58:11
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• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Well, so now they've come out and disputed some of
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: the findings of this initial research. But I'll just say
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: this and then we'll talk specifically about this. As you know, Brian,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: because we've been talking about this now for more than
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: 10 years, I am not a fan of the Internet
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: of Things, a.k.a. smart devices, doorbells, thermostats, coffee makers, dryers, cars,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: you name it. Everything is, and you can't see my
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: air quotes here, smart now, right? It's got software inside it.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: It's connected to the Internet. In many cases, it has
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: a microphone and or camera. You know, ostensibly to make
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: your life better.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Make things quicker, more convenient, easier for you.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Right. It comes at a price.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: As I've said to you many times, I understand both
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the wow factor of some of this stuff for people
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: and the fact that in many cases it does make
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: your life more convenient. But you have to understand the tradeoffs.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: this particular story nicely illustrates this because what I often
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: struggle with trying to explain to people why I don't
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: have any of this stuff, don't use any of this
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: stuff and don't intend to use any of it, goes
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: back to what I said in the last segment that
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: most software is not designed with privacy and security in
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: mind or to be, it's not favoring you, right? It's
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: favoring the people that built it. I would remind folks,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: if you're buying something that is dirt cheap, that has
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: all of this capability or possibly free, the people building
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: this stuff have mortgages. They have to eat. They have cars, right?
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: You are paying a price. You just don't see it
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: in the form of dollars. That's the point.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's surveillance capitalism. I can't remember who coined that term,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: but it nicely fits the entire model of the internet now.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: This stuff isn't free. It's being given to you at
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: no cost. You are paying for it with your data.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: You are not the customer. You are the product. That's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: the name surveillance capitalism. And increasingly, as the technology advances
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: and as the technology often, in terms of the hardware, again,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: has microphones and cameras, And I'll just point out, you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: mentioned LinkedIn. Yes, you can find me there. I share
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: all this stuff there. I set up a sub stack,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: which is basically just like a web hosting platform where
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: people use it to publish articles and so forth. And
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: as these kinds of stories like this LG story, which
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: I'll get back to now, come out, I set up
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: a page basically explaining why the Internet of Things is
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: risky for you. If you're working from home, for example, right,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: and you're connecting to your corporate environment, whatever that might
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: be from home, And you have these kind of devices.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: They are potentially exposing your corporate devices and capturing sensitive
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: data that, you know, whether you own the business or
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: you're just an employee, may not be beneficial to that organization.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: There's so much risk from this stuff because, let's be real, Brian,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: much of it, if not most of it, is coming
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: from China. It's full of software. I just posted a
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: story the other day. I know we only have time
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: for today. Maybe we hit it next week. How these
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: consumer-grade Wi-Fi routers coming from China, they're finding actual software
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: backdoors in them that would allow a remote attacker to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: take control of it.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: And those things are ubiquitous. They are literally everywhere. But
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: pivoting over, so are LG televisions. What's the risk here
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: with LG?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: So basically, you know, LG has claimed that it's not
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: doing a lot of the stuff this researcher said, which
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: basically it's listening to you. And even if you disconnected
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: from the Internet, it's storing transcripts and will upload them later.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: They say, you know, automatic content recognition, all these new
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: TVs have this. And it's another reason why I don't
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: like the Internet of Things. In many cases, you have
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: to opt out. You have to know some feature that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: is potentially not beneficial to you is turned on and
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: you have to go in and figure out how to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: turn it out. Often they usually make that difficult. Automatic
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: content recognition basically is, and nearly every.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: One of these TVs does it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the microphone capability.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: It's taking a picture of everything you watch every so
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: often and sending it off somewhere. So bottom line to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: save time is, whether you have an LG TV or not,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: whether you believe what they say versus these researchers, and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: I encourage you, go look this up. If their TVs
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: are really doing what they said, I find it completely egregious.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: I can tell you that at the city building, we
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: have eliminated all LG TVs because of this. But that said,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: do your own research. Figure out how to turn these
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: features off on whatever TV you have. Turn off automatic
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: content recognition. Turn off voice recognition. Turn this stuff off. While, again,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: it may be cool, it is not beneficial to you
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: unless and until we have a national privacy law or
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: until consumers finally say enough is enough of this. You're
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: going to continue to see these kinds of things and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: these kind of problems. Frankly, the less of the stuff
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: you have, the better. Go see what LG said. Again,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: I can only tell you what has been alleged. But yeah,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: the less of this stuff you.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Have, the better.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Well, it's alleged, but you know, because it's been well documented,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: this kind of thing actually does happen. Whether or not
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: it happens all the time with LG, certainly the possibility
• 1:03:19
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  Speaker 1: who is tracking us, Dave, and how do we find out?
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  Speaker 3: The better question probably, Brian, especially in light of the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: last two segments, yes. Who isn't tracking you?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: No, it's so sad.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Well, again, surveillance capitalism powers so much of what we
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: do today. This stuff that's free, these apps you download
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: to your phone or your computer for free, these Internet
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: of Things devices, they're not free, right? You're paying with
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: your data. As I've said to you so many times,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that is necessarily nefarious. But what I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: am saying is that is the trade-off you're making to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: use things at no cost to you. It's not free.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: There's no financial cost to you today because they're collecting
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: all your data. Brian Krebs is a fairly well-known security expert.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: He's been around for a while. He's got a website
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: called Krebs on Security where he delves into a lot
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: of the sort of stuff you and I talk about
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: on a regular basis. So he's a good source for
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: this sort of thing. So if you're Interested in the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: sort of stuff you and I are talking about all
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: the time. That's a good site. Again, it's just Krebs
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: on security. He's easy to find. So he has this article.
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• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: you an idea, and he gets into this, but did
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: we talk about the, it was a Wired article yesterday.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: where the reporter did a story on he requested his
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: data from the McDonald's app. Did we talk about that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: at all?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm hard-pressed to remember, Dave Hatter. It sounds something
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: like we have talked about or that maybe I stumbled
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: upon elsewhere, but I can't remember specifically if the listeners
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: heard that.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I'll send it to you, and maybe we get to
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: it at some future point, because to me, it really
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: points out the sort of stuff we're talking about here,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: but in really interesting, and in my mind, disturbing details.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: So this reporter has the McDonald's app. He goes to McDonald's.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: He's a McDonald's fan. People have apps because, of course,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: you get loyalty points and such, right? Now, I get it.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: At least there's some direct financial benefit to you of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: letting them track you at this level, but he asked
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: for his data. Yeah. 515, 515, 515 pages of data
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: on this guy, Brian. Now, think how often you'd have
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: to eat at McDonald's to generate 515 pages of stuff
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: unless they're collecting all kinds of insane stuff about you
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: that you probably did not realize.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Interesting since you mentioned that because, of course, that will
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: be an indicator maybe you should quit eating the processed
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: fast food at McDonald's given that George Brenneman's coming up
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: to talk about health in the next hour.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Warning sign.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe you guys should dig into that. But my point
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: is they're collecting an enormous amount of data. That's where
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: a site like Decrypt Ads that he's talking about here
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: will give you some insight into this. Now, this is
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit different what they're shooting for here. They're
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: trying to get at when you visit a website, how
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: many trackers and so forth are built into it that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: are collecting data from your device, your phone or your
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: computer when you hit that website through third party trackers
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: that are being sent elsewhere. So in this case, you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: can see a screenshot, it's showing ESPN, okay? So the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: idea is you've gone to ESPN because you care about sports, right?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: But then it shows you all of the different tracking
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: and so forth that's happening behind the scenes while you're
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: reading a story about the Reds or the Bengals.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Is that cookies that they're looking at?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: It's cookies, it's browser fingerprinting, you know, cookies, just as
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: a reminder for folks, a cookie is nothing more than
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: a text file that gets downloaded to your device. so
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: they can track you. Now, that's usually not necessarily nefarious.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: It may be that's the way you stay logged into
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: the site. You don't have to keep any username and password.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: But as people have gotten wise to blocking cookies and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: third-party tracking cookies and so forth, they're using things like
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: browser fingerprinting, which are reading the settings off your computer,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: so they don't even need cookies. But real quick for
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: a round of time, a search and decrypt ads for
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: hugely popular sports network ESPN reveals, wait for it, 143
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: ad partners and 19 registered data broker domains listed within
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: the text files that this thing is reading. So there's,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: as of when this article was published, 143 different companies
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: getting information about you because you went to ESPN. And
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: then reminder, data broker are companies, they're companies that do
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: nothing but buy and sell your data. They're usually behind
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: the scenes buying and selling this. This is how all
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: this data gets collected. So, you know, This company buys
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: data from that company, buys data from this company, puts
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: it all together, builds these incredibly granular dossiers about you,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: like 515 pages of McDonald's data. So if McDonald's were
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: to sell that data to someone else, that just gets
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: put in the pool. And that's why there's so much
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: information out there about you now. Again, just ESPN, according
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: to this article, 143 partners, 19 data brokers. All right.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Well, let's say we delete all of our cookies. How
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: do we delete the other information they're stealing from us?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Can we?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Not really. There are things you can do. There are
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: things you can do. A, use a site like this
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: to figure out who's tracking you like this and stop
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: using their sites. You can use browser web browsers that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: are more privacy friendly than google chrome you can use
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: things like brave firefox safari um i use all three
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: of those uh to some extent.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Brave at your recommendation i've been using brave for years.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: There are browser plugins like EFF's Privacy Badger. A browser
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: plugin is just software you install in the browser to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: add functionality to it. EFF is Electronic Frontier Foundation Privacy Badger.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: And And by the way, Brian, going back to my Substack.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: So I have a page on my Substack that is
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: every time I find these stories about egregious Internet of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Things issues, I put it on there. So I have
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: a long list showing you how crazy this stuff is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: because I get that people get bits and pieces of it.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: It's hard to put together. DaveHatter.Substack.com. Look for my IoT article.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: And then I have an article out there. that lists
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: all of the privacy-friendly stuff I use personally in my
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: daily life as Dave Hatter.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Well, Joe Strecker, I just checked with Joe Strecker. It's
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: all there on 55KRC. com, your Substack link, and, of course,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: all your other links. LinkedIn.com to find Dave, and Joe
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: will take care of the Substack to help those like
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: me who can be internet challenged from time to time.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter, thank you so much for Interest IT sponsoring
• 1:10:12
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• 1:10:14
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• 1:10:18
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• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: a Friday and a very happy one to you. Extra special.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: We were talking earlier in the program about diet and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: wellness and that article I read about just a little
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: bit of ultra-processed foods each day, like 3.5 ounces. The
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: study showed 8.8 million people followed over a long period
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: of time. Just 3.5 ounces of ultra-processed food can have
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: a large statistical increase in cardiovascular disease, cancer, death from
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: causes from a variety of different disease states, et cetera.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: So processed food is bad for you. And someone knows
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: all about that and took stock in his health quite
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: some time ago and has improved it dramatically, opened a website, restorewellness.org.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: George Brenneman, who typically comes in with Keith Tenenfeld, is
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: also into fitness and more of a holistic form of
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: medicine as to this traditional let's rely on a pharmaceutical
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. George, it's always great having you back in.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Got lots to unfold today.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, great to be here again. It's been a while.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: And the way you want to approach today's program, and
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's an ideal one, the politics behind the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: major health policies that we've been confronted with over the years,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: and I had a flashback because we're going to talk
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: about the food pyramid later in the show, unless you
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: want to do it right now. But the propaganda campaign
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the United States Department of Agriculture launched on us back
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: in the early 70s, we have video in the classroom,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: which was 4-4-3-2, that was a food pyramid. I can
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: still hear that damn jingle in my head to this day.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: And 4-4-3-2 was, of course, recommended four servings of fruits
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: and vegetables, and I guess that's fine, but four servings
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: of breads and cereals, three servings of milk, which would
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: be cheese and dairy, and then finally two servings of meat.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: We kind of flipped that on top of its head
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: of late because we all found out that carbs, breads,
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  Speaker 1: and cereals are actually really bad for us. How did
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: we end up with that back then? You want to
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: start there? Is that okay?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: We can start there.
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  Speaker 11: So it's all this evolution... that I think is tightly
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 11: linked to who was in charge of the government and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 11: who got their money to them in order to change
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 11: things around. So if you go prior to, like, 1900,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 11: everything was all about balance. So you had food was
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 11: broken into the groups of dairy, meat, carbs, and oils, fats.
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  Speaker 11: And pretty much all of that came from natural sources, right?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 11: So the fats were butter and lard, and the carbs
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 11: were whole wheat and grains.
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  Speaker 1: Chemistry hadn't made it into food production yet.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 11: And so everything was always about balance. And then what
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 11: started to happen is agriculture learned to make more and
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 11: more wheat and more and more corn per acre. You
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 11: started seeing this push towards carbs, towards cereals. And a
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 11: lot of that was pressed by, you know, I think
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 11: it was Nestle, one of the companies that made all
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 11: the cereals. And they started essentially bribing them to say, hey,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 11: you need to have more of this.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: You need to have more of this.
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  Speaker 2: And they were going against the sugar lobby.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't it Kellogg who invented cereals, the cornhole cornflake phenomenon?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Didn't he start that?
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  Speaker 2: I think it is.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the kind of cereals you were referring to?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm referring to.
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  Speaker 11: So when all of a sudden you had Cheerios and
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  Speaker 11: cornflakes and Wheaties and all of these things that, were
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 11: just pure carbs. And then they would add sugar because
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 11: somebody wanted to eat just plain wheat.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and carbs convert to sugar. Exactly.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 11: There's like a five-minute difference between that inside your body.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you put them in, it becomes sugar.
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  Speaker 11: And so you had all of these forces pushing the
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  Speaker 11: American public towards this idea that carbs are good, fat's bad.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of that.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 11: Historically goes back to one study. It's the same as
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 11: the cholesterol study. It's a guy named Ansel Keys. It
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  Speaker 11: was called the Seven Countries Study. And the reason it
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 11: was called the Seven Countries Study is he had this
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 11: nice graph, and I can pull it up if I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 11: can get my internet to connect. But basically what he
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  Speaker 11: did is he picked Japan, the United States, UK, and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 11: four other countries.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I guess Italy with the Mediterranean diet.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Italy was one of them, yes.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 11: And so he puts this plot up of number of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 11: heart attacks versus amount of fats that people were eating. Now,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 11: keep in mind, ever since 1910, when Crisco was invented,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 11: we're going to talk about that, the amount of fats
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 11: that were coming from vegetable and seed oils was increasing.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 11: So after 1910, we started getting.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: This artificial fat. Which is a different phenomenon.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 11: A different phenomenon. So what Ancel Keys did is he
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 11: took these seven things and he plotted these seven countries
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 11: on a map, and it said basically— So Japan had
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 11: almost no fat intake whatsoever, and then you got the
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 11: United States on the other end. And he drew this
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 11: line between how many heart attacks and how much fat.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 11: And it looks like this perfectly straight line, and it's
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 11: called the seven-country study.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: You can look it up.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 11: And if all you ask for is that study, that's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 11: all you will see.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: But that does not prove causation.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Well, what's even.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 11: Better is if you ask for the whole study, there's
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 11: actually 22 countries. And if you put that data on
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 11: a plot, It's just random everywhere. There's no line at all.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 11: It's just covered. So there's no correlation whatsoever between the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 11: amount of fat you eat and heart disease. And they
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 11: never drew a distinction between fat coming from animals and
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 11: fat coming from seeds.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: So after that one study, the science was settled.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: The science was settled.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: The government adopted it. We're going to talk about COVID
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: later in the show too, aren't we? Yes, exactly.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 11: And so if you look at the original study, there's
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 11: no correlation whatsoever. But he published it with only seven
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 11: data points that look like this perfectly straight line. In engineering,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 11: we call that lying with data.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 11: And so he threw away anything that didn't match, and
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 11: somehow he got the entire Congress and everybody to adopt this.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Well, did the food companies latch onto that and use
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: that as a springboard to push what they were selling?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 11: At the time, sugar was subsidized, and sugar said, oh, heck,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 11: it's fat, so we can pump out all the sugar
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 11: we want. Yeah, we like this study. Because they drove
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 11: people away from meat and dairy. Now, what happens is
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 11: by the time we get to the food pyramid and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 11: a little later, the fat and dairy lobbies start to
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 11: get stronger. And so they're pushing that they want more
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 11: of their stuff in there. It's just this corruption.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: The takeaway of this is, of course, you know, I'm
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: not going to be critical of capitalism, but in the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: name of the almighty dollar, no one was in everybody's
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: interest in selling their product and creating a, well, a vehicle,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: perhaps a lie, perhaps an erroneous study to support the
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: purchase of their particular product, but none of this had
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: anything to do with the health of the American people.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 11: No, and that's the key is they didn't even look
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 11: at what happened with heart attacks after they adopted the
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 11: new pyramid and adopted this approach of no fat.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this because this sounds suspiciously
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: like the tobacco litigation. And I always say this because
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: it's the food manufacturers. Again, I don't mind them having
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: a profit voted. I'm glad I have food available to
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: me to buy. But if they knew that this was
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: bad for us, but nonetheless pushed it and knew that
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: the study was, in fact, misinterpreted, perhaps intentionally, and yet
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: still pushed it and relied on it. That seems to
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: me about the tobacco companies, because they were charged with
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: knowingly selling a product which they denied was harmful, and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: they outright to our face lied to us, but they
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: had all the data and industry research that showed that, no,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: smoking tobacco will kill you.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 11: Well, capitalism works when you have free access to the data.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 11: So if everyone knew that the whole study actually was
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 11: based on 22 countries... And they threw away the ones
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 11: that said, hey, there was no correlation whatsoever. If you
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 11: knew that, you could adopt your buying to it. If
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: you knew that they were putting chemicals in cigarettes to
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 11: make them more addictive, but also made it more deadly,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 11: you wouldn't do that.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: We're talking about a period in time, though, where this type,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: no one was having this type of discussion about food.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: There was no processed food. It was only creeping in.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Your options were all healthy. And might I point out,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: food was a hell of a lot more expensive back then,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: and consuming like 40% of an American household budget, whereas
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: it comes in at 5% now. Technology and advancements have
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: allowed a less expensive food production. But can you, I mean,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: do you think really people in 1910 were talking about
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: carbs and fats and whether or not that study was
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: around or not?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 11: Well, and see, the other side of this, we're talking
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 11: just about diet. In 1910, everybody walked and rode, you know,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 11: their bicycles.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: There was, again, the price of food relative to income.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: you know you just didn't eat excess quantities of food
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: unless you were on the highest income levels right i
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: mean even when i was a kid i was the
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: fattest kid in the neighborhood everybody was skinny as a
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: rail and i didn't i grew up in what some
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: people might perceive to be an affluent neighborhood There weren't
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: fast food places all over. It was a lucky day
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: if you got to go. My God, we're going to McDonald's.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: It happened like once every couple of months.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 11: And in our household, you got a half a cup
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 11: of pop a day.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: One soda a week.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: On Saturday night, she got one drink.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: You and I grew up in the same household, basically.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: One soda a week, Saturday night, my sister and I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: watching Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart, and Carol Burnett. Enjoying
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: our one. That was the lineup back in the 70s.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: And then Sundays you got to watch World of Disney.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Wide World of Disney. Yes, amen. Plus the Wide World
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: of Sports on a Sunday morning afternoon, too. George Brenneman,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: we'll continue talking about health. We're going to dive into
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: the 1910 effort to move to vegetable oil. We'll also
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: talk about the demonization of cholesterol. We'll go to the
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: food pyramid as well. And COVID-19. Yep, lots to unpackage
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: in this hour at 715.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: 5KRC, the talk station.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: 720-855-KRCD Talk Station. Happy Friday. George Brenneman in the studio.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Check him out online. RestoreWellness.org. Lots of resources there to
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: try to get you on the right track. And, of course,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: this morning we're talking about politics and health over the years.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: We dove into my intention. I didn't want to go
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: out of order because we're moving from 1910 forward to 2019. 2019,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: of course, the COVID lies. 1910, George Brenneman. The move
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: to vegetable oil. Now, one of the things I learned
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: from you and Keith, and I've tried to do my best,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: no more seed oils, no more vegetables. What we use
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: in the Thomas household, avocado oil, olive oil, lard, and tallow.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: And butter.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Well, that's a given, man. Did I have
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: to even put that on the list?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do, because there's been such an attack on it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Well, that goes to the cholesterol. We can demonize. We'll
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: talk about the demonization of cholesterol in the next segment.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about why. How do we end up with
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: vegetable oil? Was it really necessary? Oh, yeah, bacon grease.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to add that to the list. Yeah, there
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: you go. We save our bacon drippings.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I keep mine in a jar.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's what we do. Put it in the refrigerator.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: You know what's great? Hash browns. Oh, my God. Bacon grease.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: If you're going to eat a potato, fry it up
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: in bacon grease with some onions. It's a rare occasion,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: but I fall off the carb wagon every once in
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: a while. But why the moved vegetable oil? What was
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the problem?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 11: The biggest why was it was getting expensive for lard
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 11: and butter.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 11: And so they had this seed over there, cotton seed oil.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 11: So the production of cotton and the cotton gin introduced
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 11: this side product of cotton seed oil. What do we
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 11: do with it? So they used it for things like
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 11: greasing equipment and for, you know, the stuff you wouldn't
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  Speaker 11: use oil and.
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  Speaker 2: Grease for, right?
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  Speaker 1: Industrial purposes.
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  Speaker 2: Because it looked horrible. It smelled horrible. It tastes horrible.
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  Speaker 11: Procter & Gamble created this way that you could get
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  Speaker 11: rid of the smell. make it clear, and add water
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  Speaker 11: to it so it turned into a solid. And suddenly
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  Speaker 11: we have crystallized cottonseed oil, otherwise known as Crisco. And
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 11: they spent a fortune creating advertisements.
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  Speaker 2: P & G is a marketing company, right?
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  Speaker 11: I mean, they did have the science to get this
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  Speaker 11: ugly oil to look and almost taste all right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it performed like traditional lard.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 11: They noticed that it almost looked like it, so they
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 11: found a way to make it look exactly like lard.
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  Speaker 11: And they started pushing this out. And they did it by,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 11: you know, they would have recipe books. They would push
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  Speaker 11: it in every form they possibly could. And suddenly you
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  Speaker 11: have Crisco coming out. You had margarine companies in Europe
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 11: that were learning how to take the smell and the
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  Speaker 11: taste out of it and make it taste like something else.
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  Speaker 11: Margarine Anymore, I look at margarine, and I think its
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 11: best use is like if you've got a squeaky door hinge,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 11: you can put some margarine on it, and it'll make
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 11: it not squeak. That's about the best use for margarine.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 11: I can't imagine eating that stuff anymore. There's nothing good
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  Speaker 11: about it.
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  Speaker 1: No, there isn't.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 11: So Procter & Gamble started with the cotton seed that
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 11: was left over, and then they found out soybeans. Hey,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 11: you can get soybean oil and play around with soybean oil.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 11: And now it's corn seeds and corn oil. All of
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 11: that is coming around now because they're subsidizing a lot
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  Speaker 11: of it and because it's still expensive to get the.
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  Speaker 2: Natural forms, the animal forms.
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  Speaker 11: What's interesting that went along on the side is Procter &
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  Speaker 11: Gamble also had a role in the creation of the
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  Speaker 11: American Heart Association. It's a really weird thing where they
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 11: didn't directly give them money, but on one of their
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  Speaker 11: television shows, they had a contest where I don't even
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  Speaker 11: remember what it was. I think it had something to
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  Speaker 11: do with heart health. But they recommended you send your
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  Speaker 11: story in and you could win the contest and then
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 11: send in a donation to the American Heart Association as
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 11: part of that. Well, that's when the American Heart Association
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 11: went from like, you know, nine doctors talking to each
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 11: other to this enormous organization because they got a ton
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 11: of money coming in. And they started backing whatever it
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 11: is they were paid to back.
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  Speaker 2: So suddenly.
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  Speaker 11: But unsaturated oils and hydrogenated oils are great, but large bad.
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  Speaker 1: Much like money and politics can be a problem, same
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: thing with money in the food industry. Absolutely.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: And you mentioned earlier the smoking, right? So when R.J.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 11: Reynolds got hit with the fact that they had to
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 11: put smoking can be hazardous to your health on the side,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 11: they started buying.
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  Speaker 2: Up all the food companies.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 11: So most of the big food monopolies now are owned
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 11: by R.J. Reynolds and the scientists that made cigarettes addictive.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 11: Make ultra-processed food addictive.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, we might want to have to expand on that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit here in the coming segment there, because
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: that's a problem for me. 725 here, 55 KRC Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: I was just remembering Florence Henderson, deep-frying loaves of bread
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: for the Wesson oil. Remember that, George, huh? I'm having
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: all kinds of.
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  Speaker 11: Wesson was a chemist that perfected part of the processes
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 11: for using seed oil.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. I'll tell you what, you need to
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: ensure the safety and warmth of your home. Talk Station.
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• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: You don't believe George Brenneman talking about restorewellness.org. He backs
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: it with the research materials, healthy options for you and
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: your diet, and some great thoughts and comments by Keith Tennefeld,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: who's not here today, but George has covered it quite well,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: dealing with the sort of the capitalistic nature of food
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: industry coupled with working with the government, we ultimately end
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: up with some pretty bad information.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you had mentioned, and I know I brought up
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: the tobacco company litigation, the reason I presume they were
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: held liable, maybe the food industry, which, as you will
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: explain in a little bit more detail here, is owned
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: by the tobacco industry or former tobacco industry. Maybe they're
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: purposely engaged in manipulating what's in the foods to make
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: it more palatable, more addictive, if I can use the words. Right.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: But I have to say, and you off-air mentioned that
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: the first foray into the food industry was R.J. Wendell's
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: acquisition of Hawaiian Punch in 1963.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the Surgeon General's report saying that tobacco causes cancer
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: to kill you that led to the labels was the
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: 1964 Surgeon General's report. So they were out ahead of it.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Do you think they saw the writing on the wall? Absolutely. Okay,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: so as a Well, let's say a CEO of R.J. Reynolds.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at an insanely valuable, wealthy company still generating
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: billions of dollars. But I see that dying because people
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: are going to find out that what they're selling, which
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: I think they knew, was killing people. Okay, while we've
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: got money, while we have the ability, power, and influence,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: let's diversify our business, R.J. Reynolds, and create a food company.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: I see that as a normal strategy. Let's buy Hawaiian Punch,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: and down the road they buy more and more. It's lucrative,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: and yes, the tobacco business itself started whittling away, and
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: we're at the point now where a very small slice
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: of the population even smokes anymore. Do you think they
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: went into this with a nefarious intent to create products
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: that were more addictive, or did they just start there
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: and then realize, hey, These businesses are profitable. Let's figure
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: out how to make them more profitable. Well, so the
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: way they.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 11: Grew the market share on tobacco was they found ways
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 11: to make it more and more addictive. Manipulating the product.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 11: They add chemicals to the product to make it more addictive.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Good point.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 11: Therefore, they sell more. So tobacco, you never had to have.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 11: I mean, if you don't have tobacco, you're not going
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 11: to die. If you don't have food, you're going to die. So, hey,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 11: let's buy a food company. And we already have scientists
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 11: who have perfected this art of making things more addictive.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 11: They knew what people wanted. So 1963 is probably right
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 11: around when Hawaiian Punch and Kool-Aid and all those things
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 11: started to get really popular. Well, hey, we've got this
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 11: thing that you really don't have to have, but People
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 11: are craving because it tastes good, gives them a rush,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 11: you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Soft drinks or, you know, sodas have been around for
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: a long time. It's just a non-carbonated form of a
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: soda that people obviously love to buy.
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  Speaker 11: And they start pumping up the amount of sugar in it.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 11: I mean, Hi-C, the other one, you remember, they talk
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 11: about how great vitamin C is. Well, yeah, vitamin C
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 11: is great, but what do you mix it with? You know,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 11: a cup of sugar is probably.
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  Speaker 2: Not a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm sorry, man. Down in the South, they've been
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: doing that forever. Two cups of sugar per quart of
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: water to make sweet tea. Oh, that's crazy, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Could you drink that?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Purely saturated. Not anymore. Oh, you could.
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  Speaker 2: I could never. I mean, that was just way too much.
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Back in the old days? I mean,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a kid who used to be, I mean,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: when I was swimming, an entire 16-ounce sugar soda. This
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: is when I was working out. And then I put
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: two scoops of the powdered like high C mix. Remember
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: they sold concentrated? Into that and mix it up. That's
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: how bad.
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  Speaker 11: I saw an ad the other day for these drinks
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 11: where they put like cotton candy inside of a soda.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I looked at that and I'm like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 8: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. I get a migraine.
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  Speaker 2: Just watching the ad, you know?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: So over time, what do you start doing?
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: So they bought.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 11: The Hawaiian Punch. Then they buy Nabisco, so Oreos, Chippahoi,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 11: Wheat Thins. All of that stuff now is R.J.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: Reynolds.
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  Speaker 11: They bought Philip Morris, the other big cigarette company, bought
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 11: General Foods and Kraft. So they went into this, and
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 11: I cannot find the data immediately by hitting my friend
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 11: Grock here, but you've got to believe that the reason
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  Speaker 11: high-fructose corn syrup came out It was because when you
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 11: get some sugar, after a while you don't want it
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 11: anymore because you've had enough. If you have high fructose
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 11: corn syrup, your body doesn't have that switch anymore. It
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 11: doesn't say you've had enough.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: It doesn't metabolize like sugar?
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 11: It metabolizes very similar, except it only metabolizes in the liver.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 11: It cannot be taken straight into the cell. And so
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 11: your liver is sitting there trying to crank out glycogen
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 11: and glucose from this This carb that's coming in that
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 11: nothing else in your body can handle. You take sugar.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 11: Every cell in your body can take the glucose and
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 11: use it. You take high fructose corn syrup. The cells
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 11: don't get it right away. It has to go to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 11: the liver first, which is why we now have cirrhosis.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Of the liver with kids.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: That have never touched alcohol.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. When you drink 12 Mountain Dews a day,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: you're going to run into a problem.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: For a number of reasons, citric acid, everything else.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: And Mountain Dew is my go-to. Mountain Dew with lemon.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: So I'd add even more acid to it.
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  Speaker 1: Not anymore?
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  Speaker 5: Not.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, golly.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, George, you admit on air
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: that you're still drinking Mountain Dew. I'm going to say, well.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: I can't even go to the soda fountain anymore. I
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: go there and I get the water. You know, you
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: hit the button, you get pure water out.
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  Speaker 1: Because the diet sodas also come with their own perils. Yes.
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  Speaker 11: So there, the big peril is your body thinks it's
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 11: a sugar. It creates insulin. There's no sugar for the
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 11: insulin to work on.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 11: Your body now has this influx of insulin with nothing
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 11: to do except cause problems. So the combination of high
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 11: fructose corn syrup, which I think did come from the
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 11: tobacco companies and the corn subsidies.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: So the same reason we have ethanol now.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: There'll be government influence over the agricultural industry, which results
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: in us burning corn in our gas tanks forever.
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  Speaker 11: I don't understand. But that one's entirely because we pay
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 11: for it. The taxpayers pay for it and subsidize it.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 11: So that's another one of those connections between food and
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 11: the government. I wonder what corn would cost if it
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 11: wasn't subsidized.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Well, we've got to get to the demonization of cholesterol,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: which kicked in in the late 50s. More with George Brenneman. RestoreWellness.org.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: And also, Gregory Lester, you went to the talk station.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: 740 here at 55KRC, the talk station. RestoreWellness.org is where
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: you find George Brenneman. And, George, Eric, my friend, just
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: chimed in. He said the fat electrician did some research
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: for you, giving me a link to a YouTube link,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: which is called The Disturbing Story Behind Lunchables. Speaking of
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: corporate influence over food and them selling us a bunch
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: of stuff that is not good for us, I look
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: at those lunchables. First of all, is it processed bologna
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: or some kind of processed meat?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: It's usually bologna or some kind of ham or— I
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: think you can get turkey.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: But— Your carb servings in there with the crackers.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: And then the cheese that's never seen a cow.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Right. And then— It's in a big plastic packaging stuffed
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: in a box. So it's massive landfill. On top of
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: the fact you just get like a couple, three ounces
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: of terrible for you meat. So I don't even know
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: what that video says. But that's convenience.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: Well, the problem there is it's targeting children.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, hey, listen, man. Target marketing for me. I had
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: my mom buying all kinds of crap when I was
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: a kid.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, in our day it was things like
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 11: Oreos and Frosted Flakes.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Captain Crunch. And then you get over to the frozen
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: food section and all those processed frozen TV dinners that
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: were so bad for you. Oh, yeah. Oh, man.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: They had enough preservatives in there to get your body
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: ready for the coroner.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: You could have buried one in your backyard and still
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: be ready to eat today.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: Have you ever set a McDonald's hamburger out for a while?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: It doesn't change.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: The cheese doesn't even change.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Listen, we're on the same page. All right, demonization of cholesterol.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: All of the foregoing has a lot of cholesterol in it,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: but is it really that bad for us? What's the story?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 11: So the interesting thing is, so if you just go
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 11: into Grok and type in, you know, how did cholesterol
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 11: become the bad guy for heart attacks? The very first
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 11: study it talks about is a Russian pathologist in 1913
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 11: fed cholesterol and sunflower seed oil to rabbits, and the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 11: rabbits had heart problems. We now know it's the sunflower
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 11: seed oil. So, I mean, that was the first study.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 11: And then you got the Ancel Keys study we talked about.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 11: And I showed you the plot. There's just no correlation
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 11: whatsoever between fat and heart attacks until you pick only
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 11: very specific countries that you're going to talk about.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 11: There was another study in 1948 called the Farminghand study
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 11: where they started looking at this community and tried to
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 11: draw a connection between cholesterol.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: It didn't work.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 11: The bottom line is even Grok will tell you that
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 11: by 2010, the connection between food you eat containing cholesterol
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 11: and heart attacks was like non-existent. There is no correlation.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 11: But since then, we now have statins. And I heard
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 11: they had a caller earlier this morning talking about statins. Well, hey,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: you know, we've got this thing you can measure in
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 11: your blood called cholesterol. We've got this tainted study from
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 11: the 50s that says that's the problem. And we've got
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 11: a drug that will make that number go lower. Now,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 11: we've talked about this before. There's a great book out
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 11: there called The Clot Thickens. And one of the things
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 11: it talks about is the actual problem is not your
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 11: cholesterol causing a clot. It's the fact that your arteries
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 11: were already torn and the cholesterol is coming in to
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: fix it.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: So what causes the tearing?
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 11: Well, smoking, high blood pressure, high sugar, stress, you know,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 11: all the stuff we talk about other than diet that.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Causes you problems with your health.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 11: So cholesterol is kind of like blaming the fireman for
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 11: the fact that the house caught fire. You know, the
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 11: way to stop house fires is to get rid of
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 11: the fire department. That's essentially what statins and cholesterol are doing.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 11: We're going to get rid of the problem by not
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 11: being able to repair your arteries.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: And it just sounds stupid. Bat crap insane, too, when
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: you look at it that way.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 11: Well, and suddenly we had this, again, you talked about
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: the Alzheimer's link.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: Now, okay, and going back, artificial intelligence tells me that, no,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: there is no connection whatsoever.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 11: You have to drive that one. So that one, if
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: you keep asking questions, they'll finally talk about the correlation.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 11: But the first response, especially from using chat GPT?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: No, this is the default under Google.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 11: Okay, which is a chat GPT-based AI one, I think.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 11: They have their own flavor.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Like Gemini or something like that.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: But it's like their first instinct of all of the
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 11: other ones, and even Grok to some extent, is to
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 11: give you the standard line. You then have to push
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 11: them in the direction that you want to ask deeper questions,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 11: and it'll start to give you the deeper answers.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: It's really weird. What about all the research papers that
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: say there is a correlation between statins and dementia?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they just throw them out. It's the same way
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: when we talk about COVID. The AI really cherry-picks their
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 11: data when they talk about COVID.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, COVID. You know what? One of the things that
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: COVID gave us? A profound, jaded cynicism when it comes
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: to what our lords and masters in government and the
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: experts are feeding us. Going back and looking over the
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: history of what we've been talking about today.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: We don't trust people as much. And so I've kind
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: of moved through my life with the default mode being
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: jaded and cynical and I think it's benefited me. Don't
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: agree or believe in something just because someone tells it
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: to you because you're supposed to believe in it.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: And there's no excuse for not doing your own research.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Amen, brother.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 11: And I think COVID woke up everyone's BS detectors. You know,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 11: we had gone to sleep for years and years.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 11: You know, being told that you had to stay home
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 11: and you're not allowed to see your dying parents and
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 11: these cloth masks work.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: You just look at that and go, that's crazy.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: My favorite one is DeWine saying you can't drink after
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: 10 p.m., but you can still hang out at the bar.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Or you can sit at your table, but you can't
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: stand up without a mask.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Or you're going to get arrested for walking around by
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: yourself on a beach without a mask. We could go
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: back and spend hours going through all of the nonsense
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: and how obvious it was and how many people still
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: nonetheless just ignored their own natural reaction to that, which
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: is this can't be right. Right. 746, don't go away.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: We're going to do one more with George. And speaking
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: of COVID-19, maybe. 55KRC, the talk station. 7.50, almost 7.51
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: before we get back to talking health with George Benjamin.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Let's kiss ourselves a Crimestopper or Bad Guy of the Week.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the 55 KRC Morning Show. Officer Tiffany
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: Green with the Cincinnati Police Department, Crimestoppers, Bad Guy of
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: the Week. Who are we looking for today? And happy Friday, Tiffany.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Brian.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: Good morning.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 7: The Cincinnati Police District 1 and 3 investigative units are
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 7: looking for Johnny Gibson.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 9: Mr.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 7: Gibson is wanted for two counts of aggravated robbery. District
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 7: 3 investigators say Mr. Gibson normally brandished a firearm at
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 7: a McDonald's cashier and took cash from the register, then
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 7: fled the scene. Four days later, District 1 investigators say Mr.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 7: Gibson used a knife to force the store clerk at
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 7: Rivertown Inquiry and Apparel to open the register while he
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 7: took cash from the register and fled the store with
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: the cash in hand. Johnny Gibson is a white male.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 7: He's 36 years old. He's 5'11 and 150 pounds. Johnny
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 7: Gibson has an arrest history of aggravated robbery and kidnapping
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 7: and was last known to live on Fair Street in
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 7: South Fairmount. If anyone has information on where police can
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: find Johnny Gibson, please call Crime Stoppers at 513-352-3040 or
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 7: submit a tip online at crime-stoppers.us.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: You remain anonymous. You'll be eligible for a cash reward.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: We can get this guy off the street. He'd be
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: good for everybody, so try to do that. Tiffany Green,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: God bless you and every member of the Cincinnati Police
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: Department and all members of law enforcement. We'll be looking
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: for him. He's on my blog page, 55KRC. iheart. com. George Brenneman, RestoreWellness.org.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: That's his own webpage. You can get all kinds of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: great health information. I know we have just a few
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: minutes left in the segment. We're dealing an entire hour
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: on great health information, the connection with capitalism, I guess, politics,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: and how, well, the food we eat ends up harming us.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: So we're waking up to this reality, but one of
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: the cold water doses of reality going back to COVID-19,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: I think we all collectively learned a lot, but You know,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: the damage that was done during that period of time
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: in the name of, you know, stopping the pandemic, I
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: don't know that we're going to really know for decades.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 11: I think the population is almost equally divided between those
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 11: that think that all of these moves saved them and
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 11: those that know that it made things infinitely worse.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, the lockdowns, this reliance on masks and masks.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Emergency use authorization vaccines.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that are never tried before and forcing people to
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 11: go to the hospital when they finally are starting to
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 11: have trouble because of all the other problems with COVID.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 11: And then they put them on ventilators, which just accelerated
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 11: the problem. The whole COVID mismanagement and the fact that
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 11: the government took the lead in all that, it was
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 11: kind of like, what made a lot of people wake
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 11: up and say, why do we trust anything they say
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 11: if they're so wrong on this one?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: One more information comes out every day with Fauci. I mean,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: look at the revelations from his diaries, the lies that
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: he told us.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, he told the public I had nothing to do
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 11: with shutting down the schools, but then in his emails,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 11: he's bragging about getting de Blasio to close down all
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 11: their schools.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 11: And that's the real thing for me is we've now
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 11: gotten in November a chance to vote on what happened
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 11: during COVID.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: We've got the architect.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 11: Of easily one of the worst states' policies in the country,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 11: Amy Acton, running for.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: Office on her history as the COVID czar.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow. And yet never answering a single
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: question relating to it. Not one.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Well, and apparently she was.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: At least that I have been able to come across.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: She was afraid to go in front of people and talk,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: and I just don't understand how.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: Well, she quit the job. I mean, she wasn't even
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: on it that long. She quit.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 11: Everything about this just sounds wrong, and now we're sort
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 11: of saying, okay... We want to select a leader for
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 11: everything in the state that demonstrated that they didn't know
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 11: what they were doing.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: On this one little facet of what was going on
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: in the state.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Let's put him in charge of everything. Yeah.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 11: And give her infinite money and power. And in Ohio,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: you can't get anything done because of the governor's line
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 11: item veto.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. The whole COVID thing.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 11: The other thing I found interesting is I'm doing research
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 11: to talk.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: About it today.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 11: Most of the AI still feeds you the science has
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 11: proven stuff. You got to really push it to get
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 11: any information beyond the standard Fauci approved story. I find
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 11: that disturbing on how controlled that information is.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Garbage in, garbage out. The AI didn't create itself.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 11: And it's all a function of who drove the initial learning.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 11: I'd love to do a little deeper dive into the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 11: AI and how much of it is influenced by the
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 11: initial commands. So I can word a question to get
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 11: the answer I want, or I could just ask the question.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I guess, at least insofar as some of
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: the learning models, it's a question often of volume. And
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: there's not as much volume of the reality that you're
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: talking about as there is the volume that we got
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: for so long that trust the science, trust the science.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: And they've done some tests on that. There was a
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Reddit subgroup. that they got on the bandwagon of perpetuating
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: this lie. It was, I mean, beyond outrageous. It was something,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: if you read it, you'd be like, there's no way. Like, J.D.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Vance was murdered by Donald Trump. It was like, I'm serious.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: It was a disease-infested cockroach. It was just like, really?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: And they said it so many times, they repeated it.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: And they echoed the message in other forums. And finally,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: the artificial intelligence modeling, maybe it was ChatGP or one
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: of the other ones, actually revealed that as a truth.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Because it had been produced so many times in volume
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: by these actors online doing this intentionally coordinated lie just
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: to see if it worked.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 9: It did.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: It worked, but proving AI didn't work.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: So I guess the more you say it.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 11: And COVID is the example, like, you know, when we
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 11: start talking about seed oils and carbs and all of,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 11: you know, muscle is medicine kind of things, that is
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 11: the minority of the people talking about it. Although I
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 11: will say right now, if you pay any attention to
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 11: the wellness space, There is a ton of information coming
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 11: out on things like keto and things like, you know,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 11: strength training is a way to live longer. And I
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 11: think that's finally a chance that we're saying, hey, the
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 11: truth's coming through the noise.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Well, the idea that we can now eat eggs without
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: any guilt is still a struggle for many people who
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: grew up being told that eggs would kill you because
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: of the cholesterol.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: That's not true.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: And you can eat it, but there's still that little hesitation, like, oh,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: my God, I'm going to eat an egg. Because you've
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: been convinced over your entire life, based on propaganda, that
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't eat, or just simply erroneous understanding of the science.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: George Brenneman, get over to the website, restorewellness.org. Find out
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: what the resources are there, all the information is there.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: And we'll have George and, you know what, get Keith
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: back in the studio and talk about this more again,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, from my perspective. Brother, it's always
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: a pleasure having you here. Thank you very much. My pleasure. 757-55-KHC-D-TALK-STATION.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: Brian Eibold, The Help Squad, Great West Side Charity. He's
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: going to be in the studio. 805-55-CARE-CD Talk Station. It's
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: an hour, or I'd say a half hour anyway. Since
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: it's 805, we're going to talk with Brian Eibold, who
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: brought a friend with him today, Crystal Rack. She's with CareSource.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Brian Eibold, if you don't recall, he's been on this
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: program many times over the years. And I was shocked
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: to learn that The Help Squad, which is a 501c3
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Christian nonprofit organization, whose mission is to share hope and
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: compassion and grace through faith and community collaborative, assisting families
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: in crisis with short-term financial support. Wraparound services for food, clothing,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: and shelter, getting people in touch with resources that are
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: out in the world that people never otherwise would have
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: found out. That's what Crystal's doing with the Help Squad.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: But the idea is to help people get over these
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: speed bumps that they encounter in the road. They're already
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: on sort of lice financial margins. Think of someone who's
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: going to work every day but not making a whole
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: lot of money. What happens to them when their car
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: breaks down? And if you can't fix the car and
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: get to work, you can't pay the rent. You can't
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: pay the rent, you're going to be homeless. And so
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Brian and the team at Help Squad understand this. They've
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: seen it, and they've been doing this since 2001, getting
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: people over those hurdles. Is that a fairly decent, accurate
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: summary there, Brian?
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 12: That's pretty good. You really don't need me here. You
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 12: just said everything I was going to say. Well, then
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 12: get over to.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: The Help Squad, cincywiththewy.com, and there's a little donate button
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: on there. There's a volunteer button on there. But what
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: you do is, you know, there are organizations all over
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: that are doing what you're doing, but your focus is the,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: you know, Colerain, Green, Delhi Townships, and Cheviot. It's a
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Westside-focused group, and you decided that because I guess you
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: saw a need for this type of resource on the Westside, Brian.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, definitely.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 12: So we assist financially struggling families, and we do focus
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 12: on single moms and dads. I was raised by a
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 12: single mother. I saw her struggles, and I'm sure a
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 12: lot of your listeners can relate to that. And like
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 12: a lot of most nonprofit organizations.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: We do the basics, food, clothing, and shelter.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 12: However, we do go beyond that and assist families with
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 12: rental assistance to avoid evictions and become yet another homeless statistic.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: In Hamilton County.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 12: We'll pay your first month's rent or deposit to get
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 12: you into a house or an apartment. We help you
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 12: furnish it. We turn on utilities, gas, electric, water. We
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 12: prevent them from being shut off. And we do, like
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 12: you mentioned, we repair disabled vehicles for free, and we've
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 12: given away about 20 cars to those families in desperate
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 12: need of transportation.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome. It is.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: It's really cool.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 12: It's basically any need that a struggling family may have,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 12: we will accommodate them once vetted. So, I mean, we're
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 12: not like we just don't hand out free money like
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 12: Oprah Winfrey. You get a car and you get a
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 12: car and you get a car.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I think that's
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: one of people's larger concerns. You know, I want a
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: bang for my donation dollar. I know people are out there.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: I am a giving person. But you know what? I
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to give. And here I am going to
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: have a pick on the United Way again. You know,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: they've got lots of overhead. They've got lots of salaries.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: They've got lots of buildings. So that means a buck
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean a buck into the hands of someone who
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: needs it. You're looking at and you're vetting people so
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: you know they are truly in need and deserving. This
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: isn't just going to be yet another handout, which will
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: perpetuate the welfare reliance. It's keeping people engaged in their
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: work and get them over a slight hurdle. So you
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: vet them, you know this is a true reality in
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: their world, and you make sure that dollar is a
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: dollar in a pocket.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 12: Yes, and going on with that, 100% of every donation
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 12: goes directly into our organization to help needy families. And
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 12: none of us, none of us on the board of directors,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 12: including myself, get paid. We do all of this for free.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 12: As a matter of fact, I probably lose $ 5, 000 to
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 12: $ 7, 000 a year to run this.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: You see, that's your mission. You're helping people.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not complaining. It's God's work, and I have
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: no problem with it.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: Well, you see, the world needs, I guess, more doers.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: And here's what I can do to levy some self-criticism.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: I would be more inclined to write a check than
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: actually spend money. The time needed to do it, that
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: takes an extra special inertia and an extra special connection
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: with wanting to achieve that desired goal. And I'll be
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: critical of myself that I don't do a whole lot
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: of that myself, but if someone's really in need, I
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: want the money to go to the end need.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: That's why I really like having you on the program, Brian,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: and promoting the Help Squad.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that. At least you're doing something. There
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: are so many people that do nothing.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: They could.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 12: They have the resources to do it. They're just not
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 12: doing it. And so, yeah, hey, we take checks, believe me.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 12: So don't think you're not doing anything by writing a check.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 12: I mean, we all know you certainly have. We don't
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 12: mind being the hands and feet of Christ. We're out
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 12: there in the field every day. We don't, and not
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 12: everybody can do that or wants to do that. Everybody
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 12: has a different spiritual gift and that's not a problem,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 12: but we certainly do need donations and that is not,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 12: we certainly accept them. So don't think you're not doing
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 12: anything by donating.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: Well, in terms of those that are Doers, I mean,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: like not W-D-E-W-E-R-S, but I mean doers, D-O-E-R-S, people like
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: you who are actually doing the actual physical work, making
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: it happen. You welcome volunteers like, for example, automobile repair
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: places who can service these donated cars and make sure
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: they're in running condition.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 6: Yes, sir. Yes.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 12: Speaking of that, we started what's called a drive program
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 12: where we go to, we partner with local service stations
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 12: who actually care about the community instead of just talking
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 12: about it.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: They actually.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 12: put their money where their mouth is, and they fix
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 12: cars for free. We've got Brogan Falls Oil on Bridgetown Road.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 12: We've got Bear Car Care in White Oak, Brogan Oil
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 12: on Glenway Avenue, and Duber's Automotive in Delhi. And I
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 12: have to welcome Ryan Roth of Sumner's Auto Care over
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 12: in Coltrane. As we're speaking right now, he is towing
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 12: a single mother's car into his shop to fix it
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 12: so she can get her kids to school and she
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 12: can get to work and she can continue to live
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 12: the life that she needs to live.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: That's an allergy inspiring kind of thing there it.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 12: Is it's amazing and we look there are how many
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 12: what there are hundreds and hundreds of service stations in
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 12: hamilton county i've mentioned what six i mean we could
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 12: use a lot more and uh so anybody that's willing
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 12: to do that we're more than willing to.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: Take you and you're not inviting a large volume challenging
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: ask in terms of the charity. How many cars do
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: you think Sumner would have to deal with? They've stepped
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: up to the plate. They're going to fix this poor
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: woman's car. I mean, how many do you take into
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: a service center throughout the year?
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 12: Well, I mean, considering we have these six, let's say
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 12: each year, Each service station does five cars, something like that,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 12: between five and eight cars.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: That's it. It's not a big ask.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: That's what my point is. I don't want people, oh,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: my God, I'm going to have a car in here
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: every single day of the year. It's going to take
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: away from my bottom line. I can't afford to do that. No,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: you can't.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: I bet there's somebody working at these automobile places, like
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: maybe someone at Sumner's, that shares your vision of the
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: charitable mission and would be proud to be providing that service.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 6: No doubt.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: We're easy to find.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: You just go to the help squad. Well, we're leaving
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: Crystal Rack out of the equation here. She's with CareSource,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: but I mean, she got it because I said, wait
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: a second, you're involved with the help squad because you
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: know about all of these other resources out in the
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: world that may be almost impossible for someone who really
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: needs it to find. Absolutely.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 13: And that's what CareSource is about is empowering people who
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 13: are on Medicaid to make a choice in their managed
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 13: care organization. We are one of those choices. And CareSource
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 13: is one of the only nonprofit managed care organizations out
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 13: there in Ohio. And what we do is we offer
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 13: enhanced benefits to help people that Brian are helping out
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 13: there in other ways. So how can we get a
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 13: life coach for somebody to help them manage their finances
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 13: so they don't get into a crisis mode again? So
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 13: a lot of people think Medicaid, they think medical dental vision,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 13: but really some managed care organization like CareSource, it's so
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 13: much more. We really are talking about how can somebody
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 13: focus on their health and their wellbeing and they're going
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 13: to their medical appointments, dental and vision, if they're not
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 13: knowing if they're going to, lights are going to be
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 13: on the next day.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: That falls by the wayside. Absolutely.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 13: So we really have to address the social determinants of
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 13: health first. And Pam Morrison, who started CareSource as a
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 13: nonprofit over 30 years ago, she was a social worker.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: She understood that.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 13: She understood the need had to be met first before
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 13: the other medical, dental and vision can be addressed. And
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 13: working with organizations like Bryan Health, who are out there
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 13: doing the good work, all the little, not little things,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 13: but the details that families need taken care of. We're
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 13: here to figure out how can we support Brian, his mission,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 13: and the other nonprofits in Cincinnati who are helping our
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 13: members and our potential members.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: So in terms of how this process works, someone comes
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: to Brian, like, for example, the woman who's having her
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: car fixed now. He realizes there's a challenge here. Maybe
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: he sees some deficiencies or some problems in that woman's
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: life when talking to her. So He would call you
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: and introduce you to that person so you could help
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: them in these other areas and avoid larger problems down
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: the road.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: All of us.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 13: So I'm an insurance professional, but I'm really just a
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 13: community educator and convener here in the Cincinnati area. I
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 13: work with another team. Ken, Anastasia and Karen are also
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 13: on my team from CareSource. And we are out in
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 13: the community working with groups like Brian's Help Squad to
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 13: just support the members that they are already working with. Actually,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 13: Brian and I had a conversation right out in the
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 13: hallway yesterday. that he might add that as a question
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 13: on their survey, do you have Medicaid? And if so,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 13: he can point them in my direction and I can
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 13: help them get them all these enhanced benefits and resources
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 13: that they may not have known about.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: I got to draw a parallel to the various veteran
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: service organizations. They're not responsible for the VA or the
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: VA benefits, but they know how to get veterans signed
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: up for it and facilitate the process of getting them
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: connected with these great resources. That's you at CareSource. Crystal
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: Brack is here along with Brian Eibold. It's The Help Squad,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Cincy with a Y.com online. A variety of ways that
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: you can help out. And businesses out there, if you
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: think there's some way that you can help these folks
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: in the community that surely could use the help and
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: keep them engaged and involved and working, just reach out
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: to Brian and the team. Maybe you come up with
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: some creative way you can help out. They're going to
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: love to hear from you. So get in touch with
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: them through the website. We'll continue. We've got more to
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: talk about with the Help Squad. After these brief words,
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: don't go away.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: 55KRC.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: I'm KRC, the talk station.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: 819-55-CARE-CITY-TALK-STATION in studio. From CareSource, Crystal Rack, who works with
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: the Help Squad. This is a segment where we're carrying
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: it from the prior hour. We've got Brian Eibold in
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: the studio. He's been here many, many times talking about
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: the wonderful work of the charitable organization, the Help Squad,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: which you can find online, thehelpsquadsensey.com. Award-winning you are, Brian Eibold.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: I saw the award you got last year for the
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: City Serves Award. But you've won other awards and sort
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: of a confirmation independently that you are getting work done.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: You help about 300 people annually?
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: 300 families.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: Families.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 300 families.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 12: And each family, on average, is about $ 850 is what
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 12: they average out to. So you can't tell me that
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 12: a family's not worth $ 850.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: An outstanding point. And as you have taught time and
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: time again, the $ 850, it's... I would say, and correct
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, is pretty much a one and
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: done for a lot of these people. It's the one
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: speed bump in their light. $ 850 on average solves the problem.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 12: We rarely have people coming back to us for a
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 12: second or third time. We rarely do.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: Well, and since you do not have enough money in
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: an endowment that could generate the revenue that you need
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: on an annual basis to serve all of these people, again,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: $ 850 per person, 300, 350, you know, you can do
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: the math on your own. I just want to specifically thank,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: because I asked you ahead of time, the biggest donation
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: you got so far, God bless the Green Township Fire Department.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 6: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: 22 grand.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: 22 grand from a golf tournament they did. They chose
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: yours as the charity.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 6: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: Great bunch of guys.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: No question about it. First responders. But you got some
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: other people you wanted to acknowledge this morning, Brian. Yeah,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 12: So what I was telling you when we were off
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 12: the air, so basically we have a fundraiser.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: We make money.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 12: We give it all away. have another fundraiser, make money,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 12: give it all away. It's like a hamster wheel. We
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 12: never stop. And it's all year round. So our next
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 12: fundraiser is going to be a Crimer's Beer House on
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 12: State Route 128 on Friday, October 2nd, 6 to 10 p.m.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 12: We've got the coolest band on the west side of town, Lunchbox.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 12: They'll be performing. There'll be games, raffles, split the pot,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 12: good food, drinks, and a bunch of people who support
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 12: the mission of helping others. I mean, What else do
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 12: you want? So and this is going to be actually
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 12: the first fundraiser that we have a corporate sponsor. So
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 12: I have to thank Matt and Jessica Ernst of Matt
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 12: Ernst and Associates Law Firm at 212 West 8th Street,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 12: downtown Cincinnati, for stepping up to support us. And, you know,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 12: just real quick, being a retired cop, I've known Matt
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 12: for a long time and I've actually had cases with him.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 12: in the past. And he was always that attorney, man.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 12: When you walk in the room, like the cops are like,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 12: oh man, I hope the guy we arrested didn't get mad.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: Because you know it's going to be a battle.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 12: I mean, he, oh yes. I mean, they do all
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 12: kinds of work other than criminal. But, yeah, you knew
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 12: when Matt walked in, it was the real deal.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think Merlin Shiverdugger is the one that pops
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: into my head along those lines. We go way back
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: because that was my first clerk job, and he was
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: a brilliant, brilliant criminal defense attorney. Same kind of reaction
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: from law enforcement. You all got along with him. Oh, definitely.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: He's a great guy, but he definitely looks out first
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: for his clients.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: For those of my listening audience.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: It's a battle.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're looking for an attorney.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: ErnstFirm.com. I'm looking at the website right now. ErnstFirm.com.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: The prosecutors, I guess, will sweat.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let them.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 12: But, no, we really appreciate him and Jessica stepping up
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 12: and helping us out. It's going to be a great time. And, yeah,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 12: anybody that supports us, yeah, certainly. I'm going to get
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 12: on the radio. I'm going to support them. You better
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 12: believe it.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: All right, and it's 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. October 2nd.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: That would be on a Friday evening at, well, Kramer's
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: Beer House. I think most people know where Kramer's is.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: We used to have listener lunches out there. All right,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: what else do we need to do? We've got another, like,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: a minute and a half here to wind things down, Brian,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: and I... give you the mic or maybe Crystal, you
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: got an observation or two, but just encouraging people to
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: really try to help out. I mean, you started this
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: in 2001. It was just a, did you just like,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: were you inspired? Like, did God lay a hand on
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: you or something, Brian? I think we all have spiritual gifts.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 12: And I think that was just, uh, you know, concern
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 12: with other people, you know, happens to be mine, but
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 12: nobody important.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm just the messenger of this, and.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 12: I'm humbled to be that messenger, but I'm nobody important.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: We're just doing the Lord's work, and I'm proud.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: To do that. Well, somebody's got to hold their hand
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: up and say, you know what? I got a great idea.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: I want to fulfill my mission, but I can't do
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: it on my own. Again, the people who are willing
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: to do the work and the effort to put things
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: in place so Lazy people like me who appreciate the
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: value of the mission can help support you in any
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: way we can, whether it's donating a service or writing
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: a check or, you know, just showing up at a party,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: the Help Squad Party for a Cause on October 2nd
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: at a Crimer's Beer House, drinking some beer, enjoying some
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: music and buying raffle tickets and having some great fun.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Crystal's nodding in approval. Yes, absolutely. You're going to be there.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: Is it on a Saturday?
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 9: Friday.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 5: Friday.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: You can make it.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: I'll be there. I'm not going to put you on
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: the spot. I'll be there.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: She'll be there.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: I know how difficult it is you put on the spot, Crystal.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: Crystal will most definitely try to be there. She just
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: said she would. But, you know, whether or not that happens,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: you can make it and help out the Help Squad. Brian, Crystal,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for what you're doing. We'll regularly
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: have you on, you know, throughout the year and remind
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: people of what you're doing and what a great mission
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: it is. The Help Squad, Cincy with a Y dot com. Folks,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: check that out. Joey had a link already to the
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: 55 KRC Morning Show. So 55KRC. iheart. com. Don't go away. 829
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: on a Friday. Happy Friday. We've got some great plans
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: going on this weekend. Yesterday, we heard about the Concours
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: de Vue, which is going to be at DeVue Park
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. Get details at 55KRC. com, where you'll be able
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: to find the podcast of the conversation getting ready to
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: have right now from the OhioPressNetwork.com. Jack Windsor, welcome back,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: my friend. It's always a pleasure having you on the
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: 55KRC Morning Show.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 4: Brian, always an honor and a pleasure to be here
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: with you and the listeners. Thanks for choosing me today.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a bit of a fly in the ointment
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: for so many people, asking legitimate questions and pestering them,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: looking for records and documents and exposing some great stuff
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: throughout the week. Just go to theohiopressnetwork.com, bookmark the spot,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: and check out what he is following throughout the week.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: Let us pivot over. Campaign pledges. Everybody wants to lower
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: price of gasoline, and we know that there is a
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: way that you can lower the price of gasoline, which
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: is artificially by eliminating the gasoline tax, which is for
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: the Ohio roads and infrastructure, which means you don't have
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: money flowing in to keep the roads in a state
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: of repair. So says Governor DeWine, we cannot afford to
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: get rid of the gas tax in Ohio. Although Vivek
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: Ramaswamy and Amy Acton are both advocating for that. So
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: where is Jack Windsor on this and who gets credit
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: for coming up with it first? Because Tom Zawistowski is
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: on the program on Tuesdays and he said, I've been
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: telling Ramaswamy, I don't know if he's got his ear.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: But I've been telling Ramaswamy he needs to advocate for
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: getting rid of the gas tax, getting rid of the
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: gas tax. And I think the credit has been given
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: to Amy Acton for being the first to come out
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: with the idea, only to be immediately followed by Ramaswamy.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: Have I got the order of things right, Jack?
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, you have the technical order right. Acton called for
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 4: a gas tax holiday on Monday with no length, meaning
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 4: 90 days, six months, a month, nobody knows. No length,
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: no price tag. And then Ramaswamy stood up with a
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: 90-day plan, a legislative vote scheduled for next Wednesday. And
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 4: as you mentioned, DeWine, who negotiated the 2019 increase, called
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 4: a gas tax holiday a very grave disservice when that
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 4: idea came up in the spring. So Monday, Acton's campaign
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 4: release called for an emergency gas tax holiday. And again,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: no duration, no cost, no funding source, no bill, no
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 4: Democrat on record saying that's a great idea. We're going
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 4: to work to support that. And DeWine's office responded the
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 4: same day. The governor cannot suspend the tax is the gist.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 4: It takes legislation. And without an emergency clause, the law
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 4: waits 90 days. Well, Monday night, Ramaswamy releases a 90-day
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 4: plan with legislative leaders. And Wednesday morning, he held a
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 4: press conference at the Ohio chamber with Speaker Huffman, Senate
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 4: President McCauley, which is his running mate. And the cost
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 4: estimate is somewhere between $ 640 to $ 700 million dollars. But
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 4: he's identified funding sources, unspent ODOT money, general revenue. And
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 4: then don't forget about Ohio's almost $ 4 billion rainy day fund.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: Diesel sits at $ 6.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: 77 a gallon.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 4: So the short answer is I am all for it.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you why later.
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  Speaker 1: So Amy Acton's plan is nebulous. It doesn't have a
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: finite period of time. And I would argue that, well,
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: maybe the reason for that is because we don't know
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: when we're going to get the relief from the war.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: Will the war be settled next week? And actually, the
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: price of gasoline and diesel presumably will reduce just because
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: the supply chain will open back up. But the challenge is,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: as you pointed out, there's got to be a compliance
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: with the law. This can't be an immediate gubernatorial action
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: because of the 90 days that you post. So Ramaswamy
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: actually comes up with a legislative proposal that they're going
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: to actually be working on. So something concrete. Have I
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: got that right, Jack?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: And what I heard from Amy Acton is she's got
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: this thingy, and in about two weeks, we're going to
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 4: flatten the price curve of gasoline.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, Give me a break.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Thingy.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: That thingy. Thingy. Well, also, here is something, and I
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: know there's a few listeners out there screaming at the radio,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: $ 640 to $ 700 million. That'll be the toll taken on
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: the roadway fund when we suspend this gas for 90 days.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: I just have to observe that is suspiciously close to
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: the $ 600 million we're giving the Cleveland Browns to build
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: a damn stadium. Which money came from the unclaimed funds fund,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: which is, I think, at $ 3 billion.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: So a rainy day fund over here, unclaimed fund, pile
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: of money, which apparently can be used to build stadiums.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: Could it be used to offset the gift that we're
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: given to waive the gasoline tax, Jack?
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  Speaker 4: So those are– yes.
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, right?
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, it can't now because it's already been committed.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: I understand.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, but your point is legitimate. A couple of things
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 4: here I want to make sure we get through. So
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 4: immediate effect requires an emergency clause, which– is two-thirds of
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 4: each chamber, 66 votes in the House, and Republicans only
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 4: have 65. So in February, an emergency clause on a
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 4: tax bill got 63 votes on the first try. It
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 4: passed a week later at 89 votes after Democrats came
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 4: on board. Huffman said he will not call the session
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 4: unless the votes are already there. The Senate needs 22.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 4: Republicans have 24 in that chamber. The bill has not
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 4: been formally introduced yet. I've got to look at it,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 4: read it, the whole nine. But a couple of things
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 4: that you pointed out, we're looking at a bill of
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: six hundred and forty to seven hundred million dollars. Well,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 4: ODOT has an amount that they're carrying over. DeWine has
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: requested that number. That number has not been provided to
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 4: me yet. I'm curious to see what that number is.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 4: We also have the general.
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  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: I said wildly curious.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 4: Wildly curious.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the other part. And it's important. Ramaswamy pointed
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 4: out one point six billion dollars. is what Ohio is
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 4: ahead of projection. So we are trending again for a
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 4: third year, being billions of dollars above projection. So the
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 4: idea is, if we can take some of the ODOT carryover,
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 4: if there's already the Rainy Day Fund, oh, and by
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 4: the way, we might have excess money of about $ 1. 6 billion.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 4: And let's not forget about the fact that lawmakers, auditor
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: Keith Faber here in the Buckeye State over the last
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 4: year and a half have identified somewhere in the ballpark
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 4: of $ 4 to $ 6 billion a year that does not
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 4: get proper oversight in Ohio's Medicaid system. So that is
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 4: another safety valve. And I think the story here is
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 4: people want relief. This can provide relief going into the election,
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 4: going into the holidays, and there probably is money there.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 4: That's what the vote is going to be all about.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 4: It's going to be about the dickering, the negotiations. And
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: so we're going to have to keep our eyes on
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 4: whether there's a session called Wednesday, because you better believe
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 4: if Huffman calls this session, he has the votes.
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  Speaker 1: The money is there. It's just simply a question of
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: where it's being placed. So if you have a giant...
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Money's fungible, isn't it, Jack? I mean, it's the way
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: I always view it. It's a giant... Effectively, it's a
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: giant pile of money. And so, you know, reducing the
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: input to one particular pile of money when you've got fat,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: giant quantities of piles of money elsewhere that you're not using...
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: I think we're entitled to some relief, Jack Windsor. Let's
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: see if it happens. 836, we'll talk about Sherrod Brown's
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: voting rights.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 6: KRC, the talk station.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: It's 840 at 55 KRC, the talk station. It's Friday.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: Happy Friday. TheOhioPressNetwork.com as we find Jack Windsor and the
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: reporting he does throughout the week. Quite investigative reporting. And
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: real quick, since we were talking about all these piles
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: of money that were being revealed to us as we
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: contemplate maybe getting a little relief from the gas tax,
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: at least temporarily, I don't know if, I'm sure you
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: saw it, Auditor Keith Faber came out and said that 3%
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: of Ohioans on Medicaid weren't even eligible and that millionaires
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: receiving Medicaid. If you look at 3% of the total
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: $ 40 billion annual spend on Medicaid, $ 1. 2 billion going out
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: the door that shouldn't go out the door, Jack. I
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if whether we get to keep that or
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: that's federal money that needs to be returned or some
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: mix of it, but you know what? Just stopping one
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: area of fraud in state government is enough to cover
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: double the nut of the gasoline tax relief there.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, I'm going to go down a road here.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 4: I didn't plan on going down, but I think it's
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 4: important to point out Vivek Ramaswamy has stood up three
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 4: separate times with plans. If you remember, he talked about
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 4: a data center. plan. He talked about the gas tax
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 4: holiday plan. But let's think back to when he talked
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: about Medicaid waste, fraud and abuse. And his plan was
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 4: to work with Washington, D.C. to actually flip the percentage.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 4: If Ohio, for example, finds waste, fraud and abuse, they
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 4: keep 35 cents on every dollar. His plan, and my
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 4: understanding is he's working out that deal with D.C., is
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 4: that if Ohio finds a dollar of fraud, we keep
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 4: 65 cents and the feds keep 35 cents. And you go, well,
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 4: why would they do that? Well, I'll tell you why.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 4: Because nobody's dealing with it now. Nobody's clawing it back now.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 4: And so this, again, is a third time that Vivek
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 4: Ramaswamy has stood up with a plan to solve a problem.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 4: And in this particular instance, wouldn't it be great if
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 4: we actually did do the clawing back and that money
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: paid for the gas tax holiday? And oh, by the way,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 4: we fixed the system that allows the waste, fraud, and
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 4: abuse to go on ad infinitum.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: Or maybe use the money for property tax relief after
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: the gas crisis goes away, Jack. It's just bottom line.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: It's a funding mechanism that we could put in place
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: to stop fraud, waste, and abuse, and also help pad
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: the books in Ohio's budget, make it easier for the taxpayers.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: That could also serve as maybe a vehicle or foray into...
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: reducing the income tax. I mean, if there's revenue sources
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: all over the place and they exercised a slight measure
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: of increased fiscal responsibility when it came to their expenditures, like, oh,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know, not paying for a football stadium. Jack,
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: you know, that really irks me to no end.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 4: I grew up a Browns fan and I'm still pissed
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 4: about it. You know, I'm like, where's my 600 million?
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 4: I do a better community service than the Cleveland Browns.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: All they do is cause heartache every Sunday.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, well, at least
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: the Bengals, quite often we at least get a slight
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: glimmer of hope only to be left feeling miserable by
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: the end of the season. Either way, private sports owners
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: should not get the benefit of the taxpayer dollars. Okay,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: that's it. Anyway, moving away. Sherrod Brown's got a voting record.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: It's almost 100% Democrat. So if people tell you that
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: he's not an evil, loony, left-wing, woke-come-communist ideologue, then you
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: shouldn't believe him because that's the way he's going to
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: vote anyway. Jack, isn't that what we've been left to
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: believe and understand based on his record?
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going to go from the big point
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 4: and then we can get more granular. I'm going to
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 4: do it opposite of the way that I would have
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 4: planned to do it. The bottom line is Sherrod Brown
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 4: voted with Joe Biden 94 percent of the time. I'm sorry,
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 4: 97 percent of the time votes, Democrats, 94 percent of
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 4: the time. And you go, well, OK, are those votes important? Well, yeah,
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 4: they really are. In 32 years of votes, he's voted
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 4: in one direction. In 2024, he backed the remember this,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 4: the Shrinkflation Prevention Act. which tells the Federal Trade Commission
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 4: to police how many ounces a company puts in a
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 4: bag of chips.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 4: So they want to run your chip business, right? The
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 4: people who are sitting on $ 40 trillion of debt are
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 4: going to tell you how to run your business. Think
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: As if I can't read a bag's label and see
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: how many ounces are in there and decide for myself
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: whether $ 5 for 11 ounces is worth it when it
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: used to be $ 5 for 16 ounces. I need a
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: government to take care of that for me, Jack.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's insane. And then the Husted campaign has
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 4: documented four votes, 2013, 2015, and 2021, where he voted
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 4: against blocking a carbon tax. The National Association of Manufacturers
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 4: put an Ohio carbon tax at 123,000 jobs. That's what
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 4: it would cost. And he voted to raise taxes on
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 4: social security benefits. 569,000 Ohioans by Husted campaign's count were
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 4: affected by that. And on the border, he said in April,
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 4: I support closing the border and to people so they
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 4: just can't cross the border at will. Against a record,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 4: the Husted campaign lays out as he votes against sanctuary
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 4: city enforcement, against deporting criminal aliens, against wall funding, plus
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 4: his own comment that he was open to decriminalizing illegal crossing.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 4: He voted yes on the American Rescue Plan, yes on
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 4: the Inflation Reduction Act, no on the 2017 tax cuts,
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 4: and the number that ties it together, is he voted
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 4: with Joe Biden 97% of the time. And don't forget,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 4: the Democrat Socialists of America are running that party. He
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 4: is a rubber stamper. He will vote where the party
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 4: tells him to vote.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, we're now painfully aware of the cognitive decline
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: of Joe Biden behind the scenes that they all knew about.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: Kind of makes you kind of wonder who actually was
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: calling the shots while Biden was president, doesn't it, Jack?
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 4: And I will bring it into today. It makes me
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 4: wonder who's going to control the puppet strings of Amy
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 4: Acton as elected governor. Let's make no mistake. She's not
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 4: qualified to be a director of health. How in the
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 4: hell is she qualified to be governor? Well, because David
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 4: Pepper is going to do the bidding and all the
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 4: work behind the scenes. It's to me, Joe Biden 2.0.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: Amen, Jack Windsor. Don't go away. We're going to talk
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: about news agencies dealing with Donald Trump's problems with the, well,
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: media kicking people out of the press pool. Jack Windsor
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: on that one finally coming. It's 846 at 55 KRC,
• 2:13:07
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• 2:13:08
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• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: It's a 49 at 55KRC, The Talk Station. One more
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: segment here with Jack Windsor from thehighpressnetwork.com. Just have to observe, though,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: I heard the Eric Conroy show. I saw Eric Conroy
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: yesterday at the NRA bus event at a 22-3 firearms
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: on Route 42 between Mason and Lebanon. I like Eric.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's a good guy. I didn't know that
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: he said he drinks beer and eats ghetto for breakfast.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's the breakfast combo, or do you
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: think that he's meant to convey that message separately? We're
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: regular folks. We drink beer. And, separately, we eat gatta
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: for breakfast. Or is that the breakfast of champions? Jack Windsor,
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We had George Brenneman on the program
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: talking about health and politics earlier. Maybe I should have
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: posed that to him. Eric, I'm sorry. I'm not giving
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: you a hard time. It is Friday. I'm just trying
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: to have a little fun before we get to the
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: battle between the press and Donald Trump. Jack Windsor, back
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: on track.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 4: So, a federal judge ordered the White House to return CNN, MSNOW,
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 4: and Politico's press passes this week. And I have a
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 4: dog in this fight. And it's because in December 2020,
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 4: Columbus Monthly, which was owned by the dispatch back then,
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 4: published a list of reasons that DeWine should bar me
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 4: from his press conferences. So in my view, same issue,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 4: not a single standard from the press, which to be candid,
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 4: is my biggest issue. Let's have a standard. Let's follow
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 4: the standard. Hard stop. But it's not that simple.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 6: What happened?
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 4: September 18th, Trump announced the ban on Truth Social, citing fiction,
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 4: and lies. Saturday, the Secret Service took the reporter's passes
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 4: at the gate. Monday, the outlet sued. Tuesday night, after
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 4: 10 p.m., four days after the ban, the White House
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 4: sent the outlet's letters for the first time, listing reasons
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 4: and offering an appeal, and objections are due today. But Wednesday,
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 4: Judge Timothy Kelly, a Trump nominee confirmed 94-2 by the
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 4: Senate in 2017, held a 45-minute hearing, and Thursday morning,
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 4: he ordered the passes returned for 14 days in an
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 4: eight-page ruling.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: Leaving the status quo in place until the final decision
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: can be rendered based upon the evidence and the briefing
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: and the law. What he has done is said, listen,
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: the likelihood of success on the merit, it leans with
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 1: the press. So someone's going to win, and based upon
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: my review of the law with a temporary or permanent injunction,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: or with a temporary injunction being discussed here, I've got
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: to figure out down the road who does it look
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: like is going to win. So likelihood of success on
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: the merits goes over to the press. Ergo, the ban
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: is paused. That doesn't mean it won't be revoked again, though,
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: because they could go another way after briefing.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. And so to your point, due process will
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 4: likely win out, which is why we are where we are.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 4: Trump's lawyers did not dispute that the outlets did not
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 4: receive notice and an opportunity to be heard before the
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 4: passes were pulled. That's part of the process that they're contesting.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 4: And the appeal process was created after the revocation. So
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 4: Kelly called the White House's standards so vague it hardly
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 4: does the trick. And then there's this national security argument,
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 4: but nothing in the record that predates this suit suggests
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 4: that the revocation of the plaintiff's hard passes was motivated
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 4: by national security concerns, is what the judge said. Trump's
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 4: own announcement cited negativity and truthfulness. And the stories that
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 4: they cited, CNN's report on a bunker under the East Ballroom,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 4: an MSNOW report on a leak investigation, a Politico story
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 4: on ballroom funding and Secret Service security spending, stories on
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 4: Iran munition stockpiles, Russia sanctions, a $ 1 billion East Wing
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 4: funding request, and bad vibes at the Republican convention in Dallas,
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 4: and on and on and on. But Judge Kelly called
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 4: them routine, and some months to years old. And most
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 4: of the reporters who wrote them did not hold hard passes.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a little bit of a challenge with how
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  Speaker 4: they're moving forward with this. But the law is pretty clear.
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  Speaker 4: Two DC Circuit cases set the process Sherrill v. Knight
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  Speaker 4: in 1977. And of course, we all remember Acosta, the
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  Speaker 4: Acosta case in 2018, which Kelly also decided. Kelly at
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  Speaker 4: that hearing said the process that the court laid out
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  Speaker 4: in those two cases wasn't followed here. The Sherrill rule
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  Speaker 4: is a pass can be denied only for reasons unrelated
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  Speaker 4: to the content of the reporting, with notice, a chance
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  Speaker 4: to respond, and a written decision. In March, Judge Paul
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  Speaker 4: Friedman voided the parts of Hegseth's Pentagon press policy that
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  Speaker 4: let the Pentagon revoke credentials based on reporting. So it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be interesting to see where this goes. If
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  Speaker 4: a story does venture over into a risk to national security,
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  Speaker 4: that's a different ballgame. But as it stands right now,
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  Speaker 4: I think as somebody who's had his press credentials revoked,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's meritless. I hate to say it, but
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  Speaker 4: I think it's meritless.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think I'm on your side as well. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that anybody has an absolute right to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of that very small pool of people that
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  Speaker 1: are providing the video. I mean, is every news organization,
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  Speaker 1: like is US News in there? Is CNN in there?
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  Speaker 1: Is Al Jazeera in there? Would they be invited in
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  Speaker 1: if they asked to be in there? I think it's
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  Speaker 1: an exclusive group of, select individuals because they can't have
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  Speaker 1: 150 reporters just videoing the same thing. Isn't that right, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: effectively what that is?
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  Speaker 10: It is.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 4: And so the people who have that right are the
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  Speaker 4: ones that stick together. And that was my other argument.
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  Speaker 4: The companies inside the rope protect each other. But would
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  Speaker 4: those companies protect me? Would they protect Daily Wire? Probably not.
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  Speaker 4: And so then it goes back to the argument, what
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  Speaker 4: is the standard? Have we defined the standard? And are
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  Speaker 4: we honoring the standard? And until we have that Honest discussion.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to go back and forth based on the
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  Speaker 4: content of the reporting, which should never be the standard.
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  Speaker 1: Understood. Elections have consequences and administrations do change. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: this all squared away before, oh, I don't know, Alexandria
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  Speaker 1: Ocasio-Cortez becomes president. Jack Windsor, TheOhioPressNetwork.com. Follow him throughout the week.
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  Speaker 1: my friend. It's always a pleasure to have you on
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  Speaker 4: It's always an honor to be here. Thank you, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Take care, man. It's 855.