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S2 Ep5 - Chrissie McLaughlin: Art, Film & Life in Port Douglas since the 90's · The Booth Juice Creative Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: All the juice straight from the maker booth.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Booth Juice.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to another episode of The Booth Juice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today I am joined by one of our incredible makers who has been with us since we opened in 2020.
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  SPEAKER_01: On top of being an amazing painter, she is also the director of Art in Transit, an online gallery representing FNQ artists and the president of the Port Douglas Artist Incorporated, curating many exhibitions throughout the Shire.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's also just a gem of a human, and I love her very much, so I'm very excited to chat with her today.
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  SPEAKER_01: So please welcome Chrissy McLaughlin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Rain.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for coming on.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just, an apology, my voice is a bit croaky today, so I'm gonna let Chrissy talk for most of it.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm good at talking, which is great.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in saying that, I would love to start.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'd love to know have you always been creative?
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: Did you always grow up here in Port Douglas?
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  SPEAKER_01: What was your childhood like?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was from New South Wales, believe it or not, the country, Coff's Harbour.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've got a cracky voice too, so we're a pair.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um my uh artistic life started print probably from early stages, primary school.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there is a photo of me from daycare kindergarten or whatever, before even school with crayons that um um it sits in my mother's house.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: And um I think my dad was stretching canvases um before you could go and buy stretch canvases and everything you had to buy, you know, canvas roll, make the frame, all that kind of thing.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: So there is a collection of old um paintings in my mum's house, my mum and dad's house in a cupboard collecting cobweb somewhere from age nine, probably.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd say canvases.
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  SPEAKER_00: So your parents were creative as well?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um my mum was pretty creative, but she um was creative in all kinds of different ways, but not particularly um painting.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if I I think if she could, she would have been quite a good um artist.
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  SPEAKER_00: What my one of my grandmothers, her mother actually was quite creative in the floral arts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's somewhere in there somebody who was creative, yeah.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: So then growing up through school and you know, finishing high school and stuff, was it always in you that you were going to follow at Creative Course?
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to go to art school and um they sent me down to Sydney to like a it was at the top um uh sort of graphic art school at the time in Ranwick, Ranwick Tafe.
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  SPEAKER_00: They had a course there that everybody wanted to get into, and I think I applied to that, and about three, you know, they had about 3,000 applicants, and I got into this to the to the go to Sydney, have an interview, and had to sit in front of a panel, do some drawing and all that kind of thing.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: And ultimately they said at 16 I was too young to move to the city and try next year, and of course I really didn't.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: I went off and did other things, and um and my artistic life evolved organically, I'd I'd say, throughout my lifetime instead of going to school.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what did you do once you left school then?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh once I left school, I um I worked uh in my hometown, which is a little country town.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd never really been anywhere much, and then I moved to Sydney and got a job.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think I was work managing restaurants at 21.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow and um I was probably still artistic.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was always one of those people that's cutting things up and making collages, and I went to so you know, I did sign writing uh at TAFE when I was at school, I think, on the side, and I could have different skills that I could um do all these things.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: I remember, you know, handwriting menus and signs on you know menu boards and things like that.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I was just doing things like that, and then I just as soon as I could, I saved up enough money and went travelling overseas for six years.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: Six years.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: Six years, my poor mother.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So where did you go in the six years?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: I basically I went over to um England and um I worked this this like the summer season or no, I worked the winter in London and I travelled Europe uh in the summertime basically.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: And uh for a couple of years I worked for Rick Stein in Cornwall.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: I lived in Cornwall and um uh went everywhere in, you know, did a couple of tours around to Europe and um settled down for a while um uh working at the seafood restaurant in um in uh Cornwall for Rick Stein, um, which was where I based myself and then travelled off from there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So then so that's after high school, you've done six years overseas.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then I came back to Australia and what made you what made you go want to go home?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I think I'd been away for a long time, and I I think I came home because my mum was having her 50th birthday or something like that.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: And of course I had plans to just you know get on a plane and go again.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we ended up buying, and I I came back with an English boy, and we ended up buying a um um an old Land Rover, you know, those one of those Leyland Brother Land Rovers, and I put a bag of paint and and um paint brushes and swimsuits, and we travelled up the coast, and I think I can remember seeing in Byron Bay car park selling crap to pay our petrol on the way up and little you know, little painted pots or something stupid like that.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what what I was doing, but anyway, we paid our petrol to get up here and he'd he'd had this fantasy of um living in the Dane Tree, and so I just got dragged along for the for the ride.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um have you heard of the Dane tree before that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of people I chat to just didn't even know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mainly from him because he he'd been there when he was um he'd uh when he was 16, he his father lived in Australia and his mother lived in um the UK.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh his dad was a 10-pound palm and he came over to um stay with his dad, and his dad took him on a trip up to Cape Trove, and so he had this you know fantasy that of course he still lives there as a house there, yeah, but for me it was a bit um it was a little bit too far north, and I came, I found Port Douglas, yeah, and settled here in the in in 1990.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: I started, I got a job at Sassy's when it used to be up on the hill.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, I worked up there for um quite a few years and settled into the community and met met um lots of interesting people here.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I opened up a um a little my first gallery and it was called Painters and Collectors, and it was down on the waterfront, and it was the first cooperative sort of setup.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: There was about seven or eight of us, and we just put all our bits and pieces in a shop and ran that for a couple of years.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was really good fun, and we had writers and we had artists and photographers, and it was like a little community hub.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: For context, how old were you at this point?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you know, roughly?
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh might have been 28, 30 or something like that.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they're probably was there much going on in the 90s here?
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, well, the the the when I arrived in 1990, they'd had an airline strike and half the shops were empty and it was um um a pretty quiet little town, and um there was only probably about a population of about 2,000 people, maybe.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: So you absolutely knew everybody in town.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: It was not as developed as what it is now, and hotels, it was always hard to find somewhere to live, you know, like it probably still is today.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: But um I lived, I eventually I moved into a house right on the beachfront, you know, where down on down on the beachfront there, and I had a little studio home studio there, and I used to pop out, you know, little um bits of art for the town, uh, menus.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, hot uh up and down the street.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: You'll walk up and down McCrossen Street, and if you look up little alleys, you'll find you know um paintings and bits and pieces from 1998.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think McCrossan House has got three pieces that are still sitting in their little alleyway as you antiques, I call them now.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I did oh, and then I after Sassy's I started working at Portof, there was a restaurant here called Portofinos, which is very creative, yeah, and they paid me a retainer to keep the art on their walls um uh fresh every month, and so we had different artists exhibiting there, and I started having my first exhibitions with um Lainey Eckhart, who was um a local around town.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: In matter of fact, in a couple of weeks I've got a group exhibition with her, so we're still exhibiting together.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, and so were they for sale?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the paintings were for sale, so I was peddling up, yeah, peddling art way back then and working with other artists, and sometimes we had ceramic work in there, and um, we're always renovating something in there and creating.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I did a whole collection of um tables with resin tops that were painted, they were quite famous in town for a while.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: So all the time, even though I always had a little job in Port Douglas doing something, I was still, you know, trying to create um in the sidelines.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh, I love it.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: So now we know you for your beautiful, you know, mangrove pieces and daintry-inspired kind of work.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: Did you kind of develop that style?
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think I would I did actually because you know, in the early days you don't know what kind of artists you're going to be.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: But um I think for me I've always stayed curious and wanting to learn different things, new skills.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I didn't go to school, and I sort of look always looked upon that as being a good thing because you have to learn yourself a technique rather than being taught that.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, in that there's some kind of freshness, and there's probably a lot of mistakes as good.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, sometimes you pick up uh something from a workshop or another artist, always work with other artists, and you go, Oh, how come I didn't know that?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's so easy.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, just stay staying fresh and learning and setting deadlines for yourself and creating projects, I suppose, keeps you focused and keeps you working and learning.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So after Portofino's and the gallery, what did you sort of got into after?
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then of course, I went into a very creative job for um Hanniford's events, who did they were one of the first big event companies up here, and probably one of the first big event companies in Australia back then, um, doing these wonderful theatrical, creative, artistic live performance shows in um corporate event sort of format, which is for me back then I felt it was very cutting edge because you don't get a rehearsal, you don't get to do it again, you just get those four hours, and you have to make people do things that they don't really know they want to do without telling them to do it, was a very creative time.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the Hannaford um Nick and Amelia were completely my idols.
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  SPEAKER_00: That you know, they were very inspiring people, and they taught me to switch on a computer and um write and um create and and that was another artistic format.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think I started in the props department creating massive sets in their big warehouse that they had, and I remember one day Nick just came out and said, She's in charge, and you know, I just kind of started from there and then moved up the scale and became um a um uh producer, and you had to learn lighting, uh theatre, stage, yeah, all that kind of thing, as well as food and beverage, of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, so I did that for a decade.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, that was a woman of many talents.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I knew you were in the entertainment industry a bit, but I didn't realise that you had a lot of people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's yeah, and in the end, I ended up doing all their um uh national and some of their international work.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I was forever on, you know, I was hardly in Port Douglas.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that was my next question, was it all?
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, after after September 11th, I think a lot of the um corporates um stopped coming to the area for a little while, so we had to sort of think outside our um, you know, this is why I love them.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Now people that just didn't, they thought outside the box and went, right, okay, how can we spin the business that we have?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And they survived it by um starting to pick up work all around the country.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: So sometimes I'd find myself on an airport strip going, you know, landing uh in a plane in Brisbane or something, going, what the hell am I doing here?
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, going from one thing to the other to the other.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing, very good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, what an interesting time.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: It was, yeah, it was.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything that really like is it like a piece of advice or something that stuck out from that era of your life?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, again, I think it's just um staying curious and and and believing that you can learn how to do something, and you know, oh I there's never in my vocabulary I can't do that, or I don't know how to do that.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think that self-um learning um thing is really um what I would tell people just to, you know, have a go.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, don't put boundaries on yourself.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, don't put boundaries and I am someone who does go, I'm gonna learn how to do that and I'll do it.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome kind of thing.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have any wild, like is there any like wild tales that happened in that time too?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like something that you're just like, I cannot believe that happened.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know, I think um there was lots of things that I could tell you, but I one thing that sort of sticks out, there was a there was a um movie being shot here, you know.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: They used to shoot all these movies here, and I was in Portofinos and I was making, I was um, you know, in ripped jeans and looking like a mess, and I was making a con a cement and mirror shard sort of mosaic tree on a back wall or something like that.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And um these two guys came walking into the bar and they spent about four hours watching me make this thing because the bar was open, of course, while I'm doing it, and I didn't really um kind of work out who they were, and you know, at the end of it they went, Oh, that looks amazing, you know, the Americans, and that looks amazing, you want to have a drink with us.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so I had a couple of shots, and it turned out to be Woody Halson and Nick Nolte.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, and I got home and I had cement in my hair.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness me.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, you know, I suppose that was that was a fun day.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but um, you know, with the Hannafords, there was plenty of crazy things that happened with them um, you know, in the in the creative world, but uh yeah, there's always been something.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: This is an amazing town here for sure for surprises and finding yourself in positions that you never thought you'd be in, I suppose.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is that why you always thought to stay in Port Douglas as well?
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yes, I did leave for a decade.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: I went to Sydney in um 2005, I think it was, and um I decided I needed um to go live in a city.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I am um inherently a bit gypsy, so you know, off I went.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I went to film school down there and thought I wanted this.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: Was after Hannaford's I had 10 years with them, and then I thought I want to change, and I went to film school thinking I wanted to wanted to um uh go, you know, move into television, but um I soon discovered I didn't like the pace.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: I like riding by the seat of my pants, and um it was just far too slow for me.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I did make a few short films, and one ended up winning some competition and ended up on like a little TV series that went on, was called Sydney Shorts or something, and often at two o'clock in the morning, if I was up and the TV was on, this little TV show would come on and there'd be my little film.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: But um uh you know, I I I I do sort of still get involved in um productions from time to time, but generally as a producer, yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um only.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have a little bit to do with port shorts and stuff like that nowadays?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I do no, I don't.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: I sometimes I used to in the early days I used to always put in films, but I don't, but I'm fully supportive of um Port Shorts and um Alice and George and the crew there.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: The crew they're amazing.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh fantastic.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: So then through those 10 years of being away, you sort of came back and forth a bit though, didn't you?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I I did, I was still doing exhibitions up here, and my art life was more centered, I realised, up here in the tropics.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I came back with an exhibition up here called um oh what was it called?
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: It was called uh Reminiscence or something like that.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then we did it, I did a collection of paintings of my vivid memory of living here, and it was to do with the colours, and that's when I started using pigments, and which has now become I've developed into a thing that I use quite a lot in my um.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: So can you you've got quite a unique process.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Can you tell us a little bit more?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that started then, I think, um, with the missing Port Douglas, and there's always a day in August where the um the atmosphere, or July, I think it is, where the atmosphere clears up and you get this blue sky like that nowhere I've ever seen in all my travels around the world.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I think for about a year I was trying to get that colour right for a painting that I had for an exhibition coming up here, and um I couldn't find it, so I had always been interested in pigments and where they come from and how they're made, and again I asked, no one knew, and so I just started developing just bought them and started developing my own techniques and mixing them up and experimenting, and of course, I found my blue, and um, because of the purity of the pigments, it's much stronger, and I could capture that what I was trying to capture in my memory of this one day of the year where you'd go, Wow, yeah, it's it's winter today because the um the sky is just this incredible blue that you never see anywhere in the world, really, except here in the tropics and on, and it just happens overnight, you know.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I bought a collection up here, and um we had the exhibition, and then I went to see the Englishman visit him, and um I found a house up in Cape Tribulation that he taught me into buying, and so I bought the house, and then I kept coming up more and more regularly because I had the house up there, and we filled it up with art and um you know uh rented as an Airbnb, and he looked after that, and I was still working in Sydney, and then eventually I think um Perrin from um Port Douglas Picture Framing rang me and said, Um, I've got a job.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to come up and um I'll teach you about the printing business?
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I went, Yeah, amazing, of course, because that's just how yes.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: So that's how I ended up back here on that after being away for um 10 years and doing the film school and trying to do things that I thought I wanted to do, but actually I just wanted to be back here.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: So um so with that um the Dane tree house as well, did is that when you started doing workshops?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: I did yes, I started doing workshops up there and um taking people up and doing sort of like a two-day, three-day workshop, which was which was amazing.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: I loved that.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was and it was the beginning of my plain air.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: I really started to get into the plain air painting, and uh at the bottom of the road, there's beautiful rain rainforest and mangrove tracks and um Cape Tribulation Beach.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think I sat in the right, you can walk right into the mangroves and sit in them, and I would go down there for a year.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think I just sketched.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: To become saturated, I suppose, in how mangroves work and developed some paintings from that.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I just really loved that lineal repetitiveness and water reflections.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's where I learned to do that.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: But I did lots of watercolours, just you know, sitting before I went to the studio and then went, you know, took the watercolours back to the studio and started working on um major works, what you know, and had reserved a bit more time in my schedule for the studio, for the pigments, for the um uh oil paintings, acrylics, whatever, and um started building collections.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so those bigger pieces that you're talking about, how long, you know, roughly does it take to paint a wear piece?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: For me, because of my technique, and I or it's a very short period of time that you can paint oils in the tropics because of the humidity, you have to wait for each layer to dry, and I work in layers, sometimes about 20 or 30 layers.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: So sometimes, and because I was doing other things at the time, sometimes a year, you know, sometimes things would come together quite quickly.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Acrylics nowadays, um, uh, I use acrylics as well uh because of the um short season to be able to do the oils.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um I um am very fast at those these days.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh fantastic.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: So then alongside getting back into painting for yourself and you know, were you doing more commission-based work at this point?
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: I started and uh after working with um uh Perrin who taught me how to do reproduction fine art printing and um archiving, I suppose, collections properly.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um I then moved into I started working for an interior decorator as her art specialist, I suppose, and there's a lot of um beautiful houses and accommodations in Port Douglas, as we know.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I started doing print collections for hotels and resorts, and um they would commission, I'd have to paint a collection to match the couch and cushions.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that kind of did you struggle with that?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Or no, not really.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty you tell me to do something, and I'll go, yeah, I can do that.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: There's a bit of a thing going on, yeah.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm that kind of I'm that I have I have a technique and a style that I do like to use, but I'm really happy to turn my hand to all kinds of different art forms.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's all art, it's fine.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: I love your life, like I love that you've gone into all these different industries.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's just saying, yeah, I'll have a go at that.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it's people will receive that or not receive that, it's fine.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love that.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so then nowadays people probably recognise you mostly from organising exhibitions.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: Can you tell us what's in the works, what's coming up?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: So um Port Daggles artists are a big part of my life, and um, I've been either the president or the secretary for the last um eight years, probably decade, nearly coming on, I suppose.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: And um I do I do love curation and having events, and you know, I've got my event background, yeah, which comes in handy, and I've got my artistic uh background, and I do love collaborating and working with other artists um uh as regularly as possible.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: So we I joined the Port Douglas Artists, which was a little group that formed in 2015, I think.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: They started forming and it had artists like Tanya Heeben and um Jill Booth and Gail Shaw, and they were um and Jill Chisholm, you know, all these amazing artists.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought they're proper artists.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I opened a little pop-up shop because I was there was no galleries, not like your beautiful gallery here in town.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: There was at that time there wasn't any galleries in town, which I thought was really strange for um contemporary collections.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I started a little gallery um and uh it was sort of run as a cooperative called Art and Transit.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we just did a pop-up thing just to see what would happen.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I think um I signed a little lease with an empty shop, and somebody came in and helped me put up rails, and we just within four weeks we had 120 pieces of art in there.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: We came together very quickly, just got on the phone, rang around and said, Who wants to put some art into a shop?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um my favorite thing to do, and so we ran, I think we ran that for about a year and then COVID hit, so we closed it and I put that online.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um like people can still shop that online, can't they?
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, now I now I have um uh collections like uh I have a uh a client in Cannes, Diana Crook, and her father gave her a collection of um silkscreen um paintings, got left to her in his will.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: He passed away in um 2015, I think, and he was an archibald um prize winner, and his his arts collected into galleries um all around Australia and um England, America, everywhere.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's pretty up.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: He's amazing.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's probably our most known famous artist in North Queensland.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: So we she gave me uh a whole uh collection of artworks that she had, and I catalogued for them, and um we caught we got them uh high resolution copied and and created a print um uh a print series out of some of the original artworks, and then I started selling some of the artworks on um art and transit, which moved the um online business into an another stratosphere, I suppose.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: And and then you know, uh other artists like Jacqueline Jewson and um Tanya Heben came on board, so I decided I would just represent um North Queensland artists on that site.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: We we need people up here, it's awesome.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then I became an art dealer.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: Of course you did, yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: So then a lot of those artists there then they opened the Port Douglas artists.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: That opened the door to the Port Douglas artists, and I joined them, and then very quickly, I think beautiful Jill Um Booth, who started, she she had a fine art gallery in Port Douglas for many years, and um I think she just dumped all this, you know, I was this scrubby little just you know, make it happen type um uh uh person, and and she really refined my skills into being able to catalogue an art collection for a very um uh well-known artist, and this is this is how you learn, you see, and she was very generous in helping me get get that set up, and then moving into Port Douglas artists, I decided that we needed some sort of uh regional gallery style exhibition here that um we could bring to the town, and it still stumps me that there's not a you know a regional, well there's regional galleries in Cairns, but it seems like Cannes is a long way away from Port Douglas to me.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of there's a lot of um very good artists in our um in our shire.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: So we the council very kindly let us um uh build some infrastructure, some lighting, and um I got grants to build big walls and plinths and all sorts of things, and we keep those all in the community hall, and once sometimes twice a year, we do a big show down there, which is more of a regional gallery style, and then we um have the sugar wharf over carnival, and we always put a big collection into the sugar wharf when we do Carnival Call Go Tri and so those two exhibitions a year and um the Port Douglas Artists grew from about 15 people to now I think it sits at about 40 members.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: And um as the as as the Port Douglas artists um has grown, um some of the artists are now winning national and international prizes, and we've got um some pretty famous um members as well.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: That are in our group and um we um I really enjoy the um the I suppose the year working together, you know, if you working with other artists is always um very good in we're we're classified as rural remote up here.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: So having access to big, big galleries um around the country and um uh refining our skills and sharing that knowledge and working together and and um you know it's really I've now I've I've over the last 10 years I've really seen some of those members really develop and enter competitions and win them.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: And that's been really good.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: So then you've got um one coming up in October.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the next exhibition is um called Northern Illumination, and it's um uh themed uh it's a themed exhibition, and it's to do with um I've given the scope, I so I I call it a scope to the um send it out to the artists and given them the theme and sort of like a guideline and and um they go away and paint for a year and then we all come together and it'll be opening on the 1st of October.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we have a big party to start, which is always fun at five.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: It starts at 5:30 in the afternoon, and um we go for a couple of hours and we um have a sort of preview and we open invitation that to the town.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, it's not just invited guests, so anybody can come, and then it's open for two weeks until the 10th of October.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: So and it'll be open daily from 9 till 4:30, I think.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that's down at the Port Douglas Community Hall.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's down at the Port Douglas Community Hall, yeah.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm so excited.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: I've been hearing I had a um a few artists sort of come and go and chatting to me lately saying, I'm working on this for the exhibition, and they're giving me little pieces of what they're paying for.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, every year we try and make it bigger and better every year.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's um something that I'm really passionate about.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: So this year we tried to I tried to curate on a more, you know, by talking to each of the artists, what are you doing?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: How can I help?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: What do you need?
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and trying to um push the envelope again so that we can um and that's not just like acrylic paintings, is it?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: There's a mixture of different media.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: No, we have um ceramics, um, weaving, uh, digital photography, painting, um yeah, all of it.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm so excited, really, really excited.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: And congratulations to you again for again organizing such an amazing exhibition.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: It takes a lot of work, and I know that some people probably just think that these exhibitions just appear.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: No, they do take a lot of work, but I just I enjoy the um I enjoy the putting together.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's um that comes from that background of absolutely, yeah.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, on behalf of the community, thank you for all your hard work and for you know getting these extra equipment and facilities, you know, lighting and all that sort of stuff.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well it's makes a world of difference.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's not just me, there's a group of people that all step in and and help, and together you can make things these things happen.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh fantastic.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if anyone wants to come to that event, um just remind me of the details.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's called Northern Illumination.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it opens on the 1st of October and it runs for two weeks until the 10th of October, and the opening event starts at 5 30 on the 1st.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Fabulous, which is is a Thursday.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, open every day, and it'll be open every day, daily seven days a week for 10 days, and that's from uh 9 a.m.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: till 4:30.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the Port Douglas Community Hall.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, awesome.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll put yeah, I'll put the link in the in the show notes if anyone wants to have a read up about that.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: So that's in October.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have anything else going on for the year or next year?
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Any projects?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I've got quite a few lined up.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's like uh you have to work a year in it sometimes you in the art industry you sort of have to work a year in in, you know, you need the time to create.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're working on collaborative things, you you need people to have the time.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but for me, I am I've booked next year's um exhibitions for the Port Douglas artists, plus we just run um hot news.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I don't think I've announced this to anybody, but we have applied for um a grant through the um Douglashire Council a Resilience Fund.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: And um one of our artists, Sam Matthews, I think you've got her work here.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, she's always wanted to do an art trail in Port Douglas.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: And we've been talking about this, been going around around circles in our meetings for about two years, and like, who's gonna do that?
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of work.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: And um eventually um uh she applied, and um we we we worked on the on the grant together and we won some funding to put that together.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: So that's we're now working on the art trail, which um you know hopefully brings the community together, but it would also give something for um the town in the sense that we'd um make it an annual event, which will bring hopefully people to the town into the hotels, into you know, the the um and get them out in the area, and people can go and visit people in their studios at home.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: So essentially it's like yeah, a bit of a trail where you can go and visit studios, stores, galleries, correct, yeah, correct.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, uh Yallungies over at Mosson and Dab and here, and um basically um uh just go into people's studios, and I think art art would be for sale, and also but it's really nice, I think, for uh tourists or locals just to go into people's studios and have a look at the process of how people work and buy directly from the artists or whatever, and I think we're going to be doing some workshops, but that will be November uh 2027.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: So we're working on that.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's a couple of shows booked in for next year.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh so uh the you know at the Sugar Wharf or the GoTropo, plus we'll probably have a um next year.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think the Shire is turning 150.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and so the council, we're working with council to put together um some uh a good show there as well uh for next year, and the dates I think are in September for our show down at the community hall.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: We've already booked that in.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: So that'll be happening next year, yeah.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so exciting! I'm can't wait.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: You always put on so many fantastic different events, and yeah, it's really cool to see art and creativity being encouraged.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you finally.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: Not finally, but you know, yeah, yeah, yes.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think and personally I that um I I've booked in a show um with Jacqueline Juicen next year, and it's um we're starting we've started to work on that.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's the two of us, she's an abstract painter, and I'm I'm doing the land cascapes, and we've called it Two Grounds.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: So that'll be in July next year.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: So that's another one added to the another thing I forgot to mention is the Brisbane Art Fair as well.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, it's a busy schedule.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: So you've done that for a few years now?
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, three.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: I've done three of those with uh Perrin Clark, the photographer, and Jacqueline Jusin, the abstract painter.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: You've got Jacqueline's work here, I think, as well.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: And we started doing, we did went to Melbourne first and did a show in Melbourne.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: Just I noticed that um people really liked her abstract work, and um, so we thought we'd test the grounds, and I went down, she took work down there and I went with her to test the waters, and and um we she had the most amazing, I think she sold about 40 paintings in four days.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: It was incredible, it was so exhausting.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, but she had an incredible reception, so uh then they announced that they were doing um their first show in Brisbane.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: So we thought, well, why not?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so literally for the last three years, I close the doors at um January when I get back from my Christmas break, and I don't come out till May.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, aircons on, and just paint, and you need big collections to go and do that show, you know, 30 or 40 pieces, and we pack a big truck in May and drive all the way down and have a road trip.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: And um, we go and do four days of just selling art in a big art market.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: Usually there's about 50 or 60 galleries, and uh, you just feel amazed if out of all that art somebody comes up and buys your absolutely your artwork, but you know, then we uh all hope to come back with an empty truck.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that is the goal.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: You shouldn't have to pack it back in and start again.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: But it is a great way to meet people, and um, you know, we get we have a it's sort of the start of our season, I suppose, you know, to to go and have you know, and it's also a trip away, it's fun, it's a road trip, and it's good to work on something in wet season too.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I can tell you now, Rain, it has built my skills.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: I usually at that time of year I usually paint with acrylics because of the wet season and it's pretty hot up here.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but um it's developed my skills, and I've been doing a um residency over at um Silky Oaks for the last six weeks.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: Of course, yes.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it's really great because their guests come and stay for like three days.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I've got to that stage where I can put an empty canvas on an easel and um and I just paint uh something, and um they the guests, even if they're only there for three days, they can watch me put the background, the progression, and each day they can come up and see what stage you're up to, and um and I can pretty much have something looking pretty good within three days.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about small pieces, of course.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: But um, that has been so amazing for me as a you know uh rainforest um uh painter.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_00: I suppose it's it's the perfect place for me to and I love it.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: They've set me up over there, and um I've been sending pieces to India and America.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yesterday I saw two pieces that went to England.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, congratulate.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: So that's been that's that's a great opportunity, and I'm very grateful for them for letting me be there and and being able to sell my work there.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's fantastic.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's been so great seeing a lot of the um resorts really embracing artists.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I would encourage it because their guests love it and um it it just makes it uh, you know, sometimes they I I do little lessons and all sorts of things, and it's such a beautiful environment over there to paint.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think all hotels and galleries should have that.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so too.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's so nice.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: So there's that, and I think uh once oh, and and um another thing that happened in the last couple of days, I just bought a ticket to go over to um Norfolk Island.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: I have a residency for six weeks in Norfolk Island coming up in January and February.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, great, so you get to escape here as well.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, in weeks, yes, yes.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: So the res the residency thing's really happening for me at the moment, which is what I was focusing on this year, and um off I off I go.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, see what happens when you manifest it.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh I love it.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, congratulations.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you so much for talking with me today.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: I thank you for having me.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: You and I mate, we could talk forever.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: We could, but we probably should wrap up soon.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but before we do, I love to wrap up my episodes with two things.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: First thing, can you leave our listeners a piece of advice, whether that be something someone's told you, something you live by, whatever it may be.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: And the second one is what has brought you the most joy this week?
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: Let's start with the good stuff.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: The most joy this week.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: I suppose was um getting an email saying that I was um accepted for a residency in Norfolk Island.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: That was pretty good joy this week.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know, I had a bit of joy this week.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: Selling two paintings yesterday.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, it's been a good week.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's only Tuesdays.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: It is, it's awesome.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: And this is how I find my weeks these days.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's all happening pretty well for me.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's good.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, advice for people um don't give up.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just keep uh Advice to are we talking from an art perspective?
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you want to leave.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to tell you a quick story that happened to me once.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: It was one of the first exhibitions I ever painted, and I found myself hiding under my bed in tears going, I can't do this.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: This is just, and it's just so, you know, um, I'm sure you know doing an ex-you've probably done exhibitions with your photography, it is like putting your soul out to public.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember hiding under the covers, and I rang my mother and said, I can't, I just can't do it.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm never one to talk like that.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: And she just she said to me in quite a cool tone, can't you just put the paint on the canvas?
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I was so angry, I got off the phone and I thought, she doesn't care, she doesn't care, and I was so angry, and I got the paint, and I just went and I was like, Oh, that works.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: And basically, this is my advice just put the paint on the canvas.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love it, I love it.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: But that is that that's always stuck into my head because I'd become too uh involved in my own head and my own whatever to even put the paint on the canvas to make the painting work.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: Something that I always say is just start and make it better later.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess it's kind of the same sort of concept that's yeah, that comes from my mother, she knows.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so good.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone, go and look by that, go and put some paint on the canvas.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Just put the paint.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: Can't you just put the paint on the canvas?
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: So cold.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: You needed it, you needed it.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_00: No sympathy.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Rain.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much, Chrissy.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: And for those who want to follow along your journey, where can they find you?
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they can find me.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh I'm on the uh Instagram, uh ChrissyMcLaughlin.art, I think it is.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: And my website, I've got um a couple.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: There's port douglas artists, that's info at portdouglasartists.com is the um uh email.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: The websites um portdouglas artists at uh I don't even know what the website is.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, you can put the links up.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: If they do a port Douglas artist or yeah, yeah, art and transit.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: Art and transit has um the best of North Queensland art, yeah.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um and the Ray Crook collection, and and his daughter is actually a great artist, her works on there.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and there's Chrissy McLaughlin.art.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: I will leave the links in the bottom.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: And thank you so much, and thank you guys.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, and thank you to Maker.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: Make us always um collected my work, you guys, so so well, and and um, thank you for having me here.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being a mentor to me for the so many years, and I appreciate all your advice and everything.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're becoming a mentor to me, you.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh, no, no way, goodness me.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, have a great day, guys.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: We will be in your ears very soon, and please don't forget to follow Maker and Chrissy and all the Port Douglas artists.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, bye! Well, that's all the juice from the booth today.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks so much for listening.
• 47:06
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• 47:17
  SPEAKER_01: We'll catch you back in the booth next week.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.
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  SPEAKER_01: Season two is proudly supported by the Regional Arts Development Fund.