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Credlin | 7 August · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Kranbler live on Skyings Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up on Kredlin. Only days after Australia's
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Speaker 2: terror threat is increased, comes a revelation the daisio's ability
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Speaker 2: to protect the community is.
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Speaker 3: At risk due to stretched resources.
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Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan joins me tonight for the latest two As
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Speaker 2: Israel prepares for an imminent attack, Anger mounts as an
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Speaker 2: Algerian boxer and Maami Khalif makes it through to the
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Speaker 2: women's Olympic final. That's despite the International Boxing Association claiming
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Speaker 2: boxer's like Khalif have a power advantage of one hundred
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Speaker 2: and sixty two percent greater over biological women. Women's rights
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Speaker 2: campaigners Soul Rover joins me with more plus the blatant
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Speaker 2: double standard from our politicians and authorities when it comes
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Speaker 2: to the type of protests s'll accept and the sort
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Speaker 2: of protest they won't. Now they deny it means two
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Speaker 2: tier policing, but that's a result as well as stoking
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Speaker 2: serious division in Western society. And after much speculation, Kamala
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Speaker 2: Harris announces her running mate Hard Left governor of Minnesota,
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Speaker 2: Tim Walls. Now in picking Wolves, the anti Israel sentiment
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Speaker 2: to the Democrats is revealed and right out of the gate,
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Speaker 2: trashing his opponents with cheap shots.
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Speaker 4: I got to tell you, pointing out just an observation
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Speaker 4: of mine that I made.
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Speaker 5: I just have to say it.
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Speaker 3: You know it, you feel it.
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Speaker 4: These guys are creepy and yes, just where it as hell.
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Speaker 6: That's what you see, that's what you see.
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Speaker 2: We'll get him in the moment. He makes Bernie Sanders
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Speaker 2: look like a right winger. First, in delivering his farewell
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Speaker 2: speech to the Parliament yesterday forming New South Wales, Premier
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Speaker 2: Dominique Perrete admitted to one big mistake in the way
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Speaker 2: Australian governments handled the pandemic.
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Speaker 3: Well elllu.
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Speaker 2: Finally someone in authority, or at least on the way out,
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Speaker 2: has conceded that succumbing to virus hysteria was a dreadful
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Speaker 2: and dispiriting mistake. But the one error he admitted, namely
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Speaker 2: forcing people to get vaccinated, should be just the start
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Speaker 2: of the reckoning about a sorry time in our history
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Speaker 2: that saw intrusive government, incredible debt and the massive loss
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Speaker 2: of our freedoms. Or on an unprecedented scale even in wartime.
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Speaker 2: As Premier Perrete claimed that there were no vaccine mandates,
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Speaker 2: even to interviewers who pleaded with him on behalf of
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Speaker 2: sat down, bows, firefighters and police.
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Speaker 1: This is something that we're using in the short term.
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Speaker 1: We don't see this as a government. We've made that
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Speaker 1: very clear as a long term solution, but we do
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Speaker 1: not see this as a long term solution.
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Speaker 2: Today in New South Wales, you can be a member
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Speaker 2: of the police force without getting vaccinated. But if you
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Speaker 2: were sacked from the police force back then for not
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Speaker 2: getting the COVID vaccine, well you can't be re employed.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: You're still sacked even today, not because you refuse to
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Speaker 2: get vaccinated vaccines, of course we now know we're only
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Speaker 2: partially effective anyway, but you are prevented from rejoining the
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Speaker 2: police force because you refused.
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Speaker 3: A legitimate instruction from the commissioner.
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Speaker 2: So vaccine mandates are no more, but there's still a
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Speaker 2: life fan on anyone who refused the vaccine. Not even
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Speaker 2: those who refused on a health offense grounds can come
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Speaker 2: back in now. Honestly, this is just unconscionable. Here in Victoria,
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Speaker 2: two dozens of firefighters, Well, they can't go back to
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Speaker 2: work because they too refused the COVID vaccines, even those
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Speaker 2: for health reasons. Now in Victoria, those mandates remain in place.
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Speaker 2: This is the real long OVID, the continuing shadow that
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Speaker 2: our overreaction to the pandemic still casts even today in
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Speaker 2: terms of blighted mental health, lost schooling, jeopardized careers, emptycbds.
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Speaker 3: This whole big.
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Speaker 2: Government mindset and our weekend work ethic. Now, I suppose
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Speaker 2: at least it's big of Periite to admit to some errors.
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Speaker 2: And to his credit, he was the pandemic premier most
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Speaker 2: ready to defy the health dictatorship. On coming to offers,
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Speaker 2: he scrapped most of the pandemic restrictions, including mandatory quarantine,
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Speaker 2: only to put many of them back a week later.
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Speaker 2: Don't forget remember that public panic about the so called
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Speaker 2: omnicron variant. But he never did anything about the vaccine
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Speaker 2: mandates when he could have actually in the job scrapped them.
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Speaker 2: Nor did he restore thousands of teachers, nurses, doctors, police, firefighters,
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Speaker 2: and ambulance officers to their jobs.
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Speaker 3: As a said, many of.
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Speaker 2: Them still unemployed today or doing something other than what
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Speaker 2: they were trained for. Meanwhile, Perrote, well, he's leaving politics
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Speaker 2: off to a well paid job with BHP.
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Speaker 3: In the United States.
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Speaker 2: Unlike other countries around the world, Britain perhaps the best example,
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Speaker 2: there's been no faired income national inquiry in Australia about
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Speaker 2: how we handled the pandemic, nor do we know why
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Speaker 2: we junked the pandemic plans that had been carefully prepared
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Speaker 2: based on real science for at least two decades.
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Speaker 3: They were the.
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Speaker 2: Plans when I worked for a Prime minister that you
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Speaker 2: were briefed on, that were supposed to come into play.
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Speaker 3: Instead we panicked. Scott Morrison panicked and.
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Speaker 2: Two years of lockdowns and billions of debt was the result.
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Speaker 2: To be fair to Perote, as I said, best.
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Speaker 3: Of a bad bunch.
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Speaker 2: But it says something about the chronic weekness of our
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Speaker 2: political leaders that all of them involved in these terrible
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Speaker 2: times have got off scot free. None of them have
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Speaker 2: faced the consequences for what they did. Most of the
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Speaker 2: officials too, or they've either been promoted or retired. In
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Speaker 2: the future, there will be another pandemic. When it happens,
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Speaker 2: my fear is that we're going to react no better
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Speaker 2: than we did under COVID because we have failed to
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Speaker 2: honestly document what we got right and what we didn't.
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Speaker 2: If I know government, what we did last time will
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Speaker 2: become the precedent for what to do again, rather than
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Speaker 2: the lesson of what not to do. And look, while
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Speaker 2: we're recalling the pandemic, and what about the difference between
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Speaker 2: the police response to the Black Lives Matter protests which
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Speaker 2: got kid glove treatment and those freedom rallies. They've got
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Speaker 2: storm trooper treatment, not just in Victoria under a Labor government,
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Speaker 2: but in New South Wales too, where a supposedly pro
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Speaker 2: freedom loving coalition government was in charge. And this raises
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Speaker 2: the whole dish, the whole double standard of law enforcement
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Speaker 2: and the weakening of social cohesion that I'm writing about
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Speaker 2: in the Australian newspaper tomorrow. Thanks to politically correct policing
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Speaker 2: and an official class that's obsessed with diversity over unity.
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Speaker 2: Once reasonably easy going countries and generally tolerant people are
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Speaker 2: angry that there seems to be one rule for some
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Speaker 2: and a different rule for others. The latest example of
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Speaker 2: this is the contrasting treatment between the pro Palestine protests,
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Speaker 2: which have had police facilitation even police protection and a
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Speaker 2: hard treatment dished out to any protest that might suggest
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Speaker 2: radical Islamism or anti Semitism has known place in modern Britain,
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Speaker 2: France or here in Australia. Now Britain, London especially is
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Speaker 2: seen constant large scal intimidation by River to the Sea protesters,
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Speaker 2: largely excused by the police, establishment excused two by the
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Speaker 2: formatory government and now also by the new Labour one on.
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Speaker 3: Free speech grounds.
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Speaker 2: But the moment a counter protest has started saying that
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Speaker 2: British values are under threat, or these people are labeled
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Speaker 2: dangerous far right extremists who were told have no place
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Speaker 2: in decent society. Now undoubtedly that label fits some of them.
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Speaker 3: But not all.
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Speaker 2: The George Floyd protests, at least to those in most
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Speaker 2: leadership positions, Or they were justified despite all the large
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Speaker 2: scale violence that accompanied them, But the protests in response
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Speaker 2: to the murder of three young children in northern England
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Speaker 2: by a deranged young man from a migrant community, Or
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Speaker 2: they're somehow reprehensible even though they're asking no less than
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Speaker 2: their counterparts on.
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Speaker 3: The left were for their rights to be respected.
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Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong, civic violence never justified but
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Speaker 2: if the public is to maintain public support, if the
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Speaker 2: law is to maintain public support, it must be enforced
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Speaker 2: equally and impartially, not selectively based on an official view
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Speaker 2: that some concerns are more justifiable than others. Don't think
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Speaker 2: there are no parallels here either. There have been very
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Speaker 2: few arrests over the dozens of anti Semitic protests that
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Speaker 2: are some times grid lockdown cities since October seven, as
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Speaker 2: James Patterson highlighted last night, even where people have displayed
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Speaker 2: the symbols of an outlawed terror group.
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Speaker 7: We have supporters of her Mask in Australia openly wearing
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Speaker 7: their logos and their symbols on the streets of Melbourne
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Speaker 7: and Sydney, including the logo of the al Cacam Brigades
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Speaker 7: of hermae Us, which is the militantly of the organization
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Speaker 7: in defiance of the hate Symbols legislation that the Parliament
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Speaker 7: passed unanimously earlier this year, and no one has been prosecuted,
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Speaker 7: no one has been charged, no one has been arrested.
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Speaker 7: What on earth is the government and the Prime minster doing.
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Speaker 3: Yet?
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Speaker 2: As we know, there's been dozens of arrests, dozens after
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Speaker 2: the protests against the stabbing of Christian Bishop Emmanuel in
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Speaker 2: western Sydney. Following today suggests that a third of Britain
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Speaker 2: support the protests occurring right now against out of control migration.
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Speaker 2: Rather than denounce as far right fanatics anyone who's anxious
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Speaker 2: about the impact of mass migration, how about taking the
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Speaker 2: concerns of people seriously, or at least just as seriously
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Speaker 2: as all the concerns on the left, You know, climb
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Speaker 2: and armageddon, trans writes guards as ceasefires.
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Speaker 3: Politicians listen to them, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, We'll go to Cameron now for the headlines. Sky
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Speaker 2: News political reporter cam.
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Speaker 6: Ridden Good evening. Australia and three other nations are conducting
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Speaker 6: activities to uphold the freedom of navigation in the Pacific Ocean.
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Speaker 6: The activities will enhance cooperation with Canada, the Philippines and
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Speaker 6: the United States. Taking place inside the Philippines Exclusive Economic Zone,
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Speaker 6: where confrontations with Chinese ships have intensified.
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Speaker 5: We're working together to tackle shared security challenges from course
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Speaker 5: of behavior by the PRC.
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Speaker 6: At a meeting of defense leaders in Washington, the Foreign
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Speaker 6: Minister makes her strongest plea yes foreign end to conflict
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Speaker 6: in the Middle East.
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Speaker 3: Cease fire has been urgent for months. It's never been
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Speaker 3: more urgent than it is now.
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Speaker 8: No one should escalate this conflict.
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Speaker 6: Reserve Bank economists believe strong demand and subsidized energy bills
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Speaker 6: may prolong the fight against inflation.
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Speaker 9: We just think the economy is running a little bit
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Speaker 9: hosser than we thought previously, and as a result of that,
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Speaker 9: we think it is going to take a bit longer
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Speaker 9: for inflation to get back to target.
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Speaker 6: But Treasurer Jim Chalmers disagrees.
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Speaker 10: I think it's hard to sustain an argument that the
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Speaker 10: economy is running too hot given all of the data
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Speaker 10: which shows that's not the case.
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Speaker 6: The RBA's chief economist, Sarah Hunter, believes state and federal
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Speaker 6: rebates on energy bills will only provide short term relief
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Speaker 6: for households.
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Speaker 9: In terms of being a sustained return to target, that's
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Speaker 9: not something that we can see coming from those particular
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Speaker 9: policies because they are only legislated for one year.
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Speaker 6: It's day four of the defamation trial brought by Liberal
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Speaker 6: Senator Linda Reynolds against her former staff member Britney Higgins.
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Speaker 6: Senator Reynolds told the court a series of social media
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Speaker 6: posts from miss Higgins and David Scharraz made her feel
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Speaker 6: like a punching clown at a fair ground. The court
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Speaker 6: briefly had to adjourn when Senator Reynolds said her blood
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Speaker 6: pressure began to rise. Cross examination continues, led by miss
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Speaker 6: higgins lawyer Rachel Young.
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Speaker 11: I've got every confidence of miss youngle the sensible about
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Speaker 11: it assured me that she's aware of Senator Reynold's medical conditions.
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Speaker 2: A lot to get across, and we'll get across those
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Speaker 2: headlines and more. And to do that, I'm joined now
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Speaker 2: by Sky News senior reporter Treaty Macintosh out of Canberra,
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Speaker 2: and senior writer and columnsts for News called Papers, Patrick Carline.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: We'll start with national security, if we can, please Ronnie
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Speaker 2: what two days on now from Asio raising the alert.
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Speaker 3: Level for terror from possible to probable.
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Speaker 2: Min Burgess though has warned the agency's resources are stretched
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Speaker 2: and they need more funding from the alban Easy government.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, stretch, but you appreciate if I needed more money
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Speaker 12: at our SATIN private to government. My job as directed
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Speaker 12: on securities, to make sure I have the laws and
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Speaker 12: the resource to do our job. We're stretched is probably
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Speaker 12: all I want to say publicly.
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Speaker 2: Trudy, you know, it's pretty hard to detect the sort
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Speaker 2: of terror threats we're experienced in radicalizations happening very quickly.
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Speaker 2: We know there's a lot of young people involved. We've
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Speaker 2: known all of this though from October seven, so we've
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Speaker 2: gone through all the budget round are May budget and
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Speaker 2: still you can hear that he's gone public, the AZEO
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Speaker 2: chief that he doesn't have enough money to do his
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Speaker 2: job properly. I am surprised he's gone public. I'm surprised
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Speaker 2: the government isn't giving him everything he needs to keep
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Speaker 2: Australians safe.
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Speaker 13: And Mike Burgess, Peter is very careful with his language,
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Speaker 13: isn't he He doesn't. He chooses every word very carefully,
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Speaker 13: and you imagine that was done deliberately there. He used
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Speaker 13: the word stretched twice. This is a big problem facing
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Speaker 13: ASO in terms of that caseload of people intelligence sources
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Speaker 13: I spoke to earlier in the week. We're speaking about
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Speaker 13: just the number of people that they're trying to monitor,
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Speaker 13: people that previously deemed us not breaching that threshold of
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Speaker 13: crossing violence. They now have to reassess that caseload inside AZO.
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Speaker 13: As for the resource question. Mike Burgess now has a
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Speaker 13: new minister after that reshuffle, moved from Home Affairs now
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Speaker 13: under the Attorney General in Mark Drefer so he can
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Speaker 13: make his case there.
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Speaker 3: I did go back and look at the budget.
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Speaker 13: There a small boost in May seventy six million dollars,
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Speaker 13: but clearly still stretch.
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Speaker 3: So the basier boss doesn't believe it was enough.
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Speaker 2: I'll make them at the point too. If someone's under
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Speaker 2: control order, so they've got to be monitored and watched.
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Speaker 2: You're looking at three teams of agents, two or three
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Speaker 2: people per team to run that twenty four hour cycle.
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Speaker 2: So it's a huge resourcing impost. And that's not even
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Speaker 2: dealing with what we're dealing with post October seven. Let's
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Speaker 2: go to other issues. Work from home, I tell you what.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four hours on and the news Sothwaldes Premier is
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Speaker 2: facing a public backlash from his public servants after he
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Speaker 2: abruptly ended work from home and order them all back
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Speaker 2: into the office. Some of them are even planning to
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Speaker 2: boycott businesses so force them back into the city. But
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Speaker 2: they're not going to get their coffee from city businesses,
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Speaker 2: they say, as punishment somehow for the premier. I don't
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Speaker 2: understand this one. Patrick chris Min's own uncle. He's a
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Speaker 2: senior executive in an apartment of health against the movie,
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Speaker 2: says to his staff the mandate won't affect their work
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Speaker 2: from home arrangement, so stay at home. Others in departments
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Speaker 2: have been told they won't be affected either. So what
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Speaker 2: a decision by the premiere now means nothing?
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Speaker 14: Well, it sort of seems that way, it doesn't. It
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Speaker 14: seems so dramatic what he announced that the other day,
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Speaker 14: tens of thousands of workers would come back into the city.
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Speaker 14: But what we need to recognize here, which I frankly
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Speaker 14: don't understand, what started as an emergency measure somehow became
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Speaker 14: a job entitlement in the two and a half years
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Speaker 14: since the pandemic ended. And you saw just since Allen
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Speaker 14: down here in Victoria talking about, well, we're not going
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Speaker 14: to change the rules. We're going to let people keep
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Speaker 14: working from home, even though it has such a massive
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Speaker 14: and dramatic effect on the economy, especially in Victoria, which
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Speaker 14: is close to bankrupt, not hitting any of the measures
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Speaker 14: in terms of productivity or anything else. To actually call
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Speaker 14: this an entitlement really beggars belief. As far as I'm concerned.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.
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Speaker 2: I mean that they've got to get back into the office.
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Speaker 2: This is not just obviously in Victoria, but also in
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Speaker 2: canber and around the country.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to some of that economic data.
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Speaker 2: Obviously we have the RBA yesterday keeping the cash rate
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Speaker 2: on hold. They are still concerned about inflation being above target.
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Speaker 2: We know it's close to four and of course their
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Speaker 2: target band is a lot lower than that. Michelle Bullock says,
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Speaker 2: part of the problem truity government spending. That's why inflation
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Speaker 2: is high than it needs to be. The Treasurer, though,
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Speaker 2: well he disagrees.
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Speaker 10: This decision is welcome because it recognizes the progress that
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Speaker 10: we've made on underlying inflation. We are confident about the
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Speaker 10: Australian economy. We are confident we can continue to see
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Speaker 10: inflation moderate. We're confident that we can continue to grow.
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Speaker 2: Trudy, he's happy to take all the que to us,
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Speaker 2: even though it's been revealed today that their flagship policy
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Speaker 2: this is reduced the cost of your power bilt three
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars per person, sorry per household handout.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's yet to.
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Speaker 2: Be delivered in New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia
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Speaker 2: because of red tape. Now he can't spin this away.
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Speaker 2: The RBA are saying spending by government ticking up inflation,
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Speaker 2: it's economics one oh one, you better read the memo.
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Speaker 13: Well, it's not just the federal government in the RBA
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Speaker 13: sites that I'd point out that states are spending like
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Speaker 13: crazy too, particularly.
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Speaker 3: In Queensland ahead of that election.
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Speaker 13: That energy reback you got from the federal government in
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Speaker 13: Queensland you also got an extra thousand dollars on top
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Speaker 13: of that, So the states are making the situation worse
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Speaker 13: as well.
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Speaker 3: As for the politics.
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Speaker 13: It's really fascinating to see Jim Chalmers now publicly disagree
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Speaker 13: with direct comments from Michelle Bullock. He's hand pointed RBA
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Speaker 13: governor today he was put team on radio this explicit
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Speaker 13: quote that she had said about the economy being too hot,
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Speaker 13: and his answer was, well, I don't accept that and
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Speaker 13: I don't agree. But we are getting into the pre
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Speaker 13: election cycle and I think we're going to see a
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Speaker 13: little bit more distance now between the Treasurer and the RBA,
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Speaker 13: particularly if we do see rates.
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Speaker 3: Go up before the election.
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Speaker 2: Heaven forbid, and I tell you what, when they're working
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Speaker 2: around the strategy table of options to go early, options
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Speaker 2: to go into next year, this is.
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Speaker 3: The number one issue.
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Speaker 2: Cost a living is the number one issue, and playing
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Speaker 2: hard into that obviously is rates, but also housing. We've
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Speaker 2: got to housing actually now because in Victoria there's a
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Speaker 2: promise to build homes. We know there's a national build
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Speaker 2: target of one point two million homes by the end
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Speaker 2: of the decade, well behind schedule, but Victoria have all
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Speaker 2: of these other projects inside that overall target. We hear
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Speaker 2: today that they've quietly scrapped fifteen separate projects and pulled
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Speaker 2: the funding. So Patrick, you know the game here. As
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Speaker 2: they go out there they make the pretty little announcement.
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Speaker 2: We all cover it on TV that night, it gets
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Speaker 2: into the print media. People think the homes are coming,
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Speaker 2: and then a couple of months down the track they
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Speaker 2: take the money out of there, they scrap the project,
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Speaker 2: possibly re announced somewhere else. We're not saying these are
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Speaker 2: phantom homes. We're not seeing anything built, and the journalists
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Speaker 2: up until now haven't picked it up. Well, thank god
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Speaker 2: they have, but this isn't good enough.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 14: I remember Dan Andrews announcing that back in twenty twenty
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Speaker 14: he was wearing a hard hat. Of course, he talked
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Speaker 14: about five point two billion dollars for twelve thousand new homes.
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Speaker 14: It sounded great at the time, very grandiose. Four years later,
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Speaker 14: I think there's three to five thousand homes built under
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Speaker 14: this program and the state government doesn't know where it's
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Speaker 14: going to find the money to actually build the rest.
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Speaker 14: And Dan Andrews too, going back to twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 14: he promised just before he resigned, eight hundred thousand new
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Speaker 14: homes for Victoria in the next ten years he resigned.
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Speaker 14: It sounded good at the time, and you look at
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Speaker 14: the number, since there's no way in the world there's
20:46
Speaker 14: going to be eight hundred thousand, be closer to five
20:47
Speaker 14: hundred thousand. So that you make a very good point
20:52
Speaker 14: that difference between the announcement itself and the moment of
20:55
Speaker 14: reckoning many years down the track allows these politicians to
20:59
Speaker 14: make them airy statements that they probably know will never
21:03
Speaker 14: come true, you.
21:04
Speaker 2: Know, wrong, Patrick Carline, Treaty McIntosh, thank you both, all right.
21:07
Speaker 2: After a whole lot of speculation about which way Kamala
21:10
Speaker 2: Harris would go when she was picking her running mate,
21:14
Speaker 2: the announcement was made and it is Minnesota Governor Tim
21:17
Speaker 2: Waltz who will be her VP pick. Inside that's report,
21:22
Speaker 2: it ended up being a two horse race, with Harris
21:24
Speaker 2: opting for Waltz over the Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. Now
21:29
Speaker 2: it's been suggested Walt's got the nod to avoid a
21:32
Speaker 2: fight with the hard left flank of the Democrats, those
21:36
Speaker 2: who are pretty much anti Israel and they don't like
21:39
Speaker 2: the idea.
21:39
Speaker 3: That Shapiro is Jewish.
21:41
Speaker 2: Shapiro and me would have made a lot of sense
21:43
Speaker 2: given his home state is Pennsylvania.
21:45
Speaker 3: It's a must win in November.
21:48
Speaker 2: What's interesting there too, there's nineteen electoral College votes in Pennsylvania,
21:53
Speaker 2: only ten in Minnesota. But let's see what my next
21:59
Speaker 2: expert thing. It's bringing Greg Sheridan from the Australian. Well, oh,
22:05
Speaker 2: actually no, we're going to go to Anelie Snelson for
22:07
Speaker 2: an update.
22:07
Speaker 3: First, Anelie Steelson.
22:10
Speaker 15: The Vice President, walked on stage with her pick to
22:13
Speaker 15: be the next Vice president, Progressive Minnesota Governor Tim Walls.
22:18
Speaker 15: Tim Walls was originally seen as a long shot candidate.
22:21
Speaker 15: He's popular Minnesota but not well known elsewhere. He faced
22:26
Speaker 15: criticism for delaying calling in the National Guard during the
22:29
Speaker 15: riots that followed the murder of George Floyd. In twenty twenty,
22:33
Speaker 15: He's enacted broad protections for abortion access, medical access for
22:38
Speaker 15: trans children, and a carbon neutral goal has been set
22:41
Speaker 15: for the state by twenty forty.
22:43
Speaker 4: Again and again and again, Trump weakens our economy to
22:48
Speaker 4: strengthen his own hand. The marks our laws. He shows
22:55
Speaker 4: chaos and division, and that's to say nothing of his
23:00
Speaker 4: record as president.
23:01
Speaker 15: Despite the announcement being made in his home state of Pennsylvania,
23:05
Speaker 15: Josh Shapiro didn't appear too hurt coming in second best
23:08
Speaker 15: as the VP pick. His political star on the rise
23:12
Speaker 15: may have threatened to outshine Kamala Harris, but his past
23:16
Speaker 15: support of Israel was also seen as a liability among
23:20
Speaker 15: the progressive anti Israel movement in the Democratic Party. Nevertheless,
23:24
Speaker 15: he praised Tim Walls campaign quips Tim.
23:27
Speaker 6: Walls in his beautiful Midwestern plain spoken way, he summed
23:34
Speaker 6: up JD Vance the best.
23:36
Speaker 3: He's a weirdo. Not to be outraced. In the crucial
23:40
Speaker 3: swing state of Pennsylvania.
23:42
Speaker 15: Jd Vance held his own event.
23:44
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting.
23:45
Speaker 16: Actually, they make an interesting tag team because of course,
23:48
Speaker 16: Tim Waltz allowed rioters to burn down Minneapolis in the
23:51
Speaker 16: summer of twenty twenty, and then the few who got caught,
23:53
Speaker 16: Kamala Harris helped bail them out of jail. My view
23:56
Speaker 16: on it is it just highlights how radical Kamala Harris says.
23:59
Speaker 16: This is a person who listened to the hamass wing
24:01
Speaker 16: of her own party and selecting a nominee.
24:06
Speaker 2: I got earlier there didn't I let's bring him in now, Greg,
24:09
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan Foreign and at the Australian. Greg, great to
24:13
Speaker 2: have you back on the program. Thank you for your time.
24:16
Speaker 2: Someone said to me today that Wolves is of the
24:19
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders strip in he makes Bernie Sanders seem like
24:22
Speaker 2: a right winger.
24:24
Speaker 3: What do you make of this pick?
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Speaker 17: Well, Peter, it's great to be with her. I'm just
24:31
Speaker 17: back from a month in the US. I think Kamala
24:34
Speaker 17: Harris has done what Donald Trump did in choosing JD.
24:37
Speaker 3: Vance.
24:38
Speaker 17: She's gone to her base instead of going to the center.
24:41
Speaker 17: And Kamala Harris doesn't need any help.
24:43
Speaker 3: On the left.
24:44
Speaker 17: And Waltz, as analyse outlined in that piece, he gives
24:47
Speaker 17: the Republicans big, fat, juicy policy targets you know, energy
24:51
Speaker 17: neutral by twenty forty. That means poverty and high energy
24:55
Speaker 17: prices and all the rest of it. He's fully on
24:57
Speaker 17: board to the gender ideology. He's on the left liberal
25:02
Speaker 17: side of the party. But it's depressing in a way.
25:07
Speaker 17: Harris could have gone much more effectively to the center
25:12
Speaker 17: with Josh Shapiro, who is a centrist rather than a lefty,
25:16
Speaker 17: and who is a strong supporter of Israel and so
25:18
Speaker 17: forth the low he supports all the Biden administration positions. Instead,
25:23
Speaker 17: she's gone to the left. Now, I like Jdevans at
25:27
Speaker 17: one level, but he is a pretty hardline right winger.
25:30
Speaker 17: And Trump, instead of going with someone like Marco Rubio,
25:34
Speaker 17: who would have been automatic outreach to Hispanics, proven electoral record,
25:38
Speaker 17: great fundraiser, all the rest of it, re doubled down
25:42
Speaker 17: on his base with JD.
25:43
Speaker 3: Vance.
25:43
Speaker 17: So both these candidates, I think, in moments of Hubris
25:47
Speaker 17: have chosen the wrong the wrong running mate.
25:53
Speaker 2: Is it true that by not going with Shapiro there's
25:56
Speaker 2: a signal there for Jewish Americans if there is Harris
26:01
Speaker 2: administration issue wins the election. That's the first point, And
26:04
Speaker 2: others have said to me, I've mean messaging people in
26:07
Speaker 2: the States that she was intimidated by Shapiro's ability, you know,
26:12
Speaker 2: a bit like Biden wanted a less than average sort
26:15
Speaker 2: of VP as his pick, didn't want to be overshadowed.
26:18
Speaker 3: She was conscious of that with Shapiro. Is that fair?
26:23
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think we can never know absolutely for sure,
26:26
Speaker 17: but I think both of those are fair assessments. So
26:29
Speaker 17: Kamala Harris has shown no subjective affection for Israel at
26:33
Speaker 17: any point in her entire political career, and she's always
26:36
Speaker 17: been to the left of Joe Biden. You're right, she
26:39
Speaker 17: was chosen partly because she was such a mediocrity that
26:42
Speaker 17: Biden thought the party would never turn to her instead
26:45
Speaker 17: of him, and indeed, for a long time that was
26:47
Speaker 17: the party's calculation. Now, Josh Shapiro is plainly a much
26:51
Speaker 17: more effective politician than Kamala Harris, and if there'd been
26:55
Speaker 17: an open primary, Shapiro or Gretchen Whitner or somebody would
26:59
Speaker 17: have won it, not come Harris. So she probably didn't
27:02
Speaker 17: want someone who was smarter than her, But she may
27:06
Speaker 17: well have felt that there would be some left wing
27:10
Speaker 17: backlash against Shapiro being a supporter of Israel and being Jewish.
27:14
Speaker 17: So that's kind of disgusting, but we don't know that
27:17
Speaker 17: for sure. But on the other hand, that shows an
27:19
Speaker 17: incredible timidity on her part as well. I mean, just
27:23
Speaker 17: Trump is strong on the right, so he could have
27:26
Speaker 17: reached out to the center. Harris is strong on the left.
27:29
Speaker 17: I mean, she's not really a strong candidate, But any
27:32
Speaker 17: voter in America who considers themselves progressive or left wing
27:36
Speaker 17: is going to vote for Harris over Trump. It wouldn't
27:38
Speaker 17: matter whether she had the Man on the Moon as
27:41
Speaker 17: a running mate. Certainly, whilst looks like a you know,
27:44
Speaker 17: a sort of white haired, you know, grizzly old pole
27:48
Speaker 17: of bear or something, and doesn't present the sort of
27:52
Speaker 17: dynamic contrast that with Harris that Shapiro would present. It
27:59
Speaker 17: may be that there was some skeleton in Shapiro's closet,
28:02
Speaker 17: though there's no reason to think that. But it just
28:05
Speaker 17: seems a weird choice. Even if there were some reason
28:07
Speaker 17: not to chew Shapiro, there were three or four other
28:10
Speaker 17: really good centrist governors and senators she could have chosen. Instead,
28:15
Speaker 17: she went to the left. I think, although it's euphoric today,
28:19
Speaker 17: I think that will hurt her in November, all Right.
28:24
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Middle East, now already a tense region,
28:27
Speaker 2: obviously since October seven, on high alert though since the
28:32
Speaker 2: assassination of the Humas leader in Iran, w're told the
28:35
Speaker 2: IDF is preparing for an imminent attack. We know the US,
28:38
Speaker 2: of course, is deploying resources to the region. Give us
28:41
Speaker 2: your assessment, Greg on how things stand tonight.
28:46
Speaker 17: Well, this is an extremely dangerous moment. Iran wants to
28:50
Speaker 17: attack Israel always because it hates Israel, and it's been
28:56
Speaker 17: humiliated by Israel's strikes against Iran. When Israel retaliated for
29:02
Speaker 17: the three hundred missiles earlier this year, it only made
29:05
Speaker 17: a pinpoint strike, but it showed that it can hit
29:07
Speaker 17: any target in Iran. And then it blew up the
29:10
Speaker 17: leader of Hummas in his secure guesthouse in Tehran. So
29:16
Speaker 17: that shows that Israel has intelligence assets inside Iran and
29:20
Speaker 17: knows everything that's happening now. Iran up until this point
29:24
Speaker 17: has not been scared of the Biden administration, but it
29:27
Speaker 17: is scared of Israel. Therefore, I think it's weighing very
29:31
Speaker 17: carefully whether it's going to strike Israel in a meaningful
29:35
Speaker 17: way or a symbolic way. If it strikes Israel in
29:38
Speaker 17: a way that hurts Israel. Israel will hit back, and
29:40
Speaker 17: it'll hit back hard. Now, Iran may then trigger a
29:45
Speaker 17: more widespread assault from Hezbollah, and if that happens, Israel
29:50
Speaker 17: will respond to that, and I think America will give
29:54
Speaker 17: Biden his due. I think America will support Israel in that,
29:58
Speaker 17: not with boots on the ground, but I think with
30:00
Speaker 17: fire from naval assets and so forth. So the danger
30:04
Speaker 17: of a wider conflict is very real. However, Iran doesn't
30:08
Speaker 17: want to use up Hezbelah, and it's scared of what
30:11
Speaker 17: Israel might actually do to it due to its nuclear
30:13
Speaker 17: program and due to its military capability. So I think
30:17
Speaker 17: this is an incredibly tense moment that could go in
30:21
Speaker 17: any one of a thousand different ways. The fact that
30:23
Speaker 17: everybody is telegraphing their moves in advance is in a sense,
30:28
Speaker 17: you can take some minimal comfort from that, because if
30:31
Speaker 17: Iran really wanted to launch an all out offensive against Israel,
30:35
Speaker 17: it wouldn't tell us about it in advance. And if
30:37
Speaker 17: Israel was really going to launch a massive preemptive strike
30:41
Speaker 17: on hez Blah, you wouldn't hear about it until it happens.
30:44
Speaker 17: So there's a lot of military signaling.
30:48
Speaker 3: Going on here.
30:48
Speaker 17: It's a very multi layered complex, many many different moving
30:53
Speaker 17: parts of this situation. And Biden, for all his sins,
30:57
Speaker 17: I think would help Israel military in a conflict. I
31:01
Speaker 17: don't think Kamala Harris would if she was president. I
31:03
Speaker 17: think Biden would still.
31:07
Speaker 2: Greg I've been really critical about the government's appointment of
31:09
Speaker 2: Tony Burke to the Home Affairs portfolio and this debate
31:13
Speaker 2: in the last four or five days that they're going
31:15
Speaker 2: to dramatically increase the Palestinian visas for Gazans and also
31:19
Speaker 2: make the current temporary visitors visitor visas a permanent visa.
31:24
Speaker 2: We know obviously there's issues with security checks. We get
31:27
Speaker 2: an increase in our terror threat level on Monday. You've
31:32
Speaker 2: been very tough on the government. You've called out the
31:35
Speaker 2: weasel words about national security.
31:38
Speaker 3: What's your concerns?
31:42
Speaker 17: Well, I'd make two main points to you, Peter. First
31:45
Speaker 17: of all, you know the death and distraction of innocent
31:50
Speaker 17: Palestinian civilians in Gaza is a terrible humanitarian tragedy, and
31:53
Speaker 17: you wanted to come to an end as quickly as
31:55
Speaker 17: possible by harmas agreeing to a cease fire. But at
32:00
Speaker 17: the same time, the last time the population of Gaza voted,
32:03
Speaker 17: they voted in Hummas. They voted for a Hummas government.
32:06
Speaker 17: Hummas is a proscribed terrorist organization under Australian law. Therefore,
32:12
Speaker 17: I think we need to be, as Dennis Richardson suggested,
32:15
Speaker 17: extremely cautious about taking people from Gaza. And Gaza is
32:21
Speaker 17: surrounded by hundreds of millions of Arab and Muslim people
32:25
Speaker 17: in Arab and Muslim societies. I don't see why it's
32:28
Speaker 17: necessary for them to come all the way to Australia.
32:31
Speaker 3: Now.
32:31
Speaker 17: I cast no aspersions on Tony Burke as an individual,
32:35
Speaker 17: but he represents an electorate with one of the largest
32:37
Speaker 17: Muslim minorities and one of the most radicalized Muslim leaderships
32:41
Speaker 17: in Australia. And everyone knows the government is under pressure
32:46
Speaker 17: from the Muslim vote in Southwest Sydney, so they are
32:49
Speaker 17: going to put maximum pressure on him to take the
32:53
Speaker 17: largest number. But if there's time, I'd like to make
32:55
Speaker 17: one other point, Petter. I'm a great admirer of Mike Burgess,
32:59
Speaker 17: the head of Asia, but I thought he said some
33:01
Speaker 17: ridiculous things this week. He said Islamophobia is more or
33:05
Speaker 17: less equal to anti Semitism. Well, that's just preposterous if
33:08
Speaker 17: he believes that he's taking some hallucinogenic in his morning coffee.
33:13
Speaker 17: He also was instructing people how to speak. I don't
33:16
Speaker 17: think that's the job of the Director General of ASIO.
33:19
Speaker 17: That's the government trying to misuse the institutional authority of ASIO.
33:24
Speaker 17: And he did an interview with your colleague Laura Jays
33:26
Speaker 17: and he referred to Christian terrorism, but he wouldn't refer
33:30
Speaker 17: to Islamists terrorism. Now, I think the government's gone really
33:35
Speaker 17: off the track this week, and I would blame the
33:38
Speaker 17: ASIO misstatements presumably on the government, but I think if
33:42
Speaker 17: you're an Australian, you've got a right to be a
33:44
Speaker 17: bit baffled by what all this means this week.
33:49
Speaker 2: I think probably pretty angry to Greg. I think this
33:51
Speaker 2: is also where Australians certainly are looking at what's happening
33:55
Speaker 2: in the UK with a little bit of understanding of
33:58
Speaker 2: when things like immigration aren't managed properly, there's a pressure
34:03
Speaker 2: valve and unfortunately sometimes that ends up in riding on
34:06
Speaker 2: the street. I'm not condoning it, but you can see
34:08
Speaker 2: where the genesis is.
34:10
Speaker 3: I'll leave it there. Greg Sharon, great to have you back.
34:12
Speaker 3: Thank you Paul being this tonight.
34:14
Speaker 2: All right after break, anger mounts as the Algerian boxer
34:16
Speaker 2: i Mani Khalif makes it through the final round with
34:19
Speaker 2: an Olympic gold medal in her sights despite all the
34:23
Speaker 2: questions over her eligibility class. With one foot out the door,
34:27
Speaker 2: Perrotees admitted vaccine mandates are a mistake, but down here
34:30
Speaker 2: they're real. In Victoria, welcome back is still the calm
34:39
Speaker 2: despite the risk they pose to fire fighting. Foreign owned
34:42
Speaker 2: wind and solar farms are paying a pittance when it
34:45
Speaker 2: comes to the fire levee chargers that leave ordinary households
34:49
Speaker 2: bearing the brunt for that short lead at first. Anger
34:52
Speaker 2: growing is the Algerian boxer Imami Khalif, who, remember the
34:56
Speaker 2: IOC claim was not that dominant or successful, so.
35:00
Speaker 3: Why should anyone be worried?
35:01
Speaker 2: Well, the athletes now made it all the way through
35:04
Speaker 2: to the gold medal bout at the Olympics. Khalif goes
35:08
Speaker 2: into Saturday's about as favorite, and it was only just
35:12
Speaker 2: the other day that the International Boxing Association went to
35:16
Speaker 2: Paris and held a press conference to confirm that Amami Khalif,
35:20
Speaker 2: as well as Taiwan's lin U ting have male biology,
35:25
Speaker 2: with blood tests showing the male x y chromosomes in
35:29
Speaker 2: the two athletes, with the boss of the IBA, Umar Kremlev,
35:34
Speaker 2: calling out the Olympic Committee and.
35:38
Speaker 17: Today, unfortunately we're witnessing the feilure there the death of
35:46
Speaker 17: women female boxing.
35:49
Speaker 2: For more of this, let's bring in CEO for the
35:51
Speaker 2: Women's app, Giggle and a longtime defender of women's rights,
35:54
Speaker 2: Cell Grover. So thank you for your time. I want
35:58
Speaker 2: to pick up something the journalists from the Australian, two
36:02
Speaker 2: of them, Peter Baddell and Jacqueline Magday, have looked at
36:05
Speaker 2: very carefully that they've gone through documents presented by the
36:09
Speaker 2: International Boxing Association that the IBA claims show just how
36:15
Speaker 2: fair the advantage Khalif has is. They are that on average,
36:20
Speaker 2: a male's handshake is fifty seven percent stronger than that
36:23
Speaker 2: of a woman, that athletes with the male x Y
36:26
Speaker 2: chromosomes of sixty five percent more leg power, ninety percent
36:30
Speaker 2: extra upper body strength, and those of us with the
36:34
Speaker 2: female xx chromosomes, and importantly that women have only about
36:39
Speaker 2: forty percent of the hitting power of a man in
36:41
Speaker 2: the boxing ring. And when you see stats like this cell.
36:46
Speaker 2: It shows just how dangerous all of this is surely.
36:52
Speaker 3: One.
36:53
Speaker 18: I mean, we know that men are stronger than women.
36:57
Speaker 18: It's why male valence exists. It's not like women and
37:00
Speaker 18: could fight back but choose not to the reality is
37:03
Speaker 18: is that men are stronger than women, and we live
37:06
Speaker 18: in that reality every day, and in sport and in
37:09
Speaker 18: greater society there has been siefguarding and categories created to
37:14
Speaker 18: make it fair and as safe as possible for women
37:16
Speaker 18: to have a fair shot. And what is happening right
37:18
Speaker 18: now in the Olympics and in many other parts of
37:21
Speaker 18: society where the absence of biological reality in sex based
37:27
Speaker 18: rules and regulations is playing out. But we knew that
37:30
Speaker 18: this was the reality. We knew this would happen.
37:35
Speaker 2: At this big press conference on the weekend in Paris,
37:38
Speaker 2: the medical chief for the International Boxing Association, who is
37:42
Speaker 2: in fact a gynecologist of thirty years training, he spoke out.
37:45
Speaker 2: He said the IOC is passport definition of a woman
37:50
Speaker 2: is an I quote contestable because the science, he says,
37:54
Speaker 2: is not poor. Medicine is knowledge, It's not opinion. He says,
37:58
Speaker 2: I know who is a woman a woman and who
38:00
Speaker 2: is a man. The biological world does not change. Now,
38:06
Speaker 2: why on earth is the IOC dismissing medical and biological tests,
38:12
Speaker 2: the views of medical experts and instead relying just on
38:17
Speaker 2: a passport.
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Speaker 18: I think that's a really, really good question, and I
38:22
Speaker 18: think it's one that they should be answering, because, I mean,
38:26
Speaker 18: we all know what a woman is. A woman is
38:29
Speaker 18: an adult human female. It's xx chromosomes. And the issue
38:33
Speaker 18: is here, as with everywhere else where, this is becoming
38:36
Speaker 18: a problem is that they are elevating this concept of
38:39
Speaker 18: legal sex, which is what would be female and new
38:41
Speaker 18: passport meaning anything, and making it override the reality of
38:45
Speaker 18: biological sex. And the moment that you override the reality
38:48
Speaker 18: of biological sex with legal sex, you obliterate women's rights
38:52
Speaker 18: and you end up with males punching women on the
38:55
Speaker 18: world stage at the Olympics. It literally just does not
38:59
Speaker 18: work in society. So not only are these women taking
39:03
Speaker 18: the punches, but the rest of us are getting hit
39:05
Speaker 18: with it as well, because once you make it that
39:08
Speaker 18: legal sex is what everybody has to acknowledge, it means
39:12
Speaker 18: that women's.
39:13
Speaker 3: Sport is no longer a thing.
39:15
Speaker 18: Female only spaces are gone, and you no longer have
39:17
Speaker 18: the legal right to say that is a man when
39:20
Speaker 18: you accurately see a man. So women like myself, Kathieves
39:24
Speaker 18: moy A, Deeming Curly Smith, Louise Elliott, we have been
39:27
Speaker 18: saying in Australia for years now that this simply doesn't
39:30
Speaker 18: work in society, and now it's being seen by everybody,
39:34
Speaker 18: and the International Olympic Committee is doubling down. And I
39:38
Speaker 18: can only assume they're doing it because one they've never
39:41
Speaker 18: experienced this kind of pushback before, despite there being males
39:44
Speaker 18: in female sports and previous Olympics, but also because they've
39:48
Speaker 18: never had to justify this position like this, and it's
39:50
Speaker 18: humiliating for them for what they've done because they knew
39:53
Speaker 18: that these people were male.
39:56
Speaker 2: All credit to yourself, because I think movement of women
40:01
Speaker 2: around the country and around the world have put this
40:04
Speaker 2: on the agenda, and I think it's much harder now
40:06
Speaker 2: for authorities and sporting organizations and politicians to high thank
40:11
Speaker 2: you for your time.
40:12
Speaker 3: All right after the break, that's about all.
40:14
Speaker 2: Of the talk about COVID. All the politicians who locked
40:19
Speaker 2: us down have left and got off scot free dom Perrote.
40:22
Speaker 2: We'll get into that in the moment, and pretty horrific
40:25
Speaker 2: new allegations against the CFMU and the misuse of union funds.
40:36
Speaker 2: Welcome back, coming up Kelbridge as always on a Wednesday,
40:38
Speaker 2: but now do some breaking news from the Olympics in Paris.
40:41
Speaker 2: The Australian Olympic Committee says it's aware of reports that
40:44
Speaker 2: an unnamed Australian hockey player has been arrested in the
40:47
Speaker 2: French capital on Tuesday night attempting to buy cocaine. The
40:51
Speaker 2: Australian hockey players had attended a team function in the city,
40:55
Speaker 2: which finished around eight forty five pm. It followed both
40:59
Speaker 2: the men's and the women's hockey teams crashing out of
41:02
Speaker 2: contention at the quarter final level. Hockey Australia says it's
41:06
Speaker 2: also aware of the allegation. The Australian Olympic Committee says
41:09
Speaker 2: it's trying to confirm the details. When we have more,
41:13
Speaker 2: I'll bring it to you here on Sky News. All right,
41:16
Speaker 2: let's bring in my panel for Wednesdays, Shadow Environment Minister
41:19
Speaker 2: Senator Jonathan Dunham and South Australian level Senator Alex Antik.
41:23
Speaker 3: Well, gentlemen, I want.
41:24
Speaker 2: To start offshore in the UK where we've seen those
41:28
Speaker 2: riots over the past few days. A you gov poll
41:30
Speaker 2: out there has found that one in three Brits support
41:34
Speaker 2: the protests, one in eight believe the unrest is justified,
41:39
Speaker 2: and a quarter of those polls say that Muslims are responsible.
41:43
Speaker 3: For the riots.
41:44
Speaker 2: Now, Alex, we're not at all condoning the violence and
41:47
Speaker 2: when no one can. But you can't sweep the issues
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Speaker 2: under the carbet either, because it speaks to a broader
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Speaker 2: frustration amongst Brits about high migration, doesn't it.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, l Peter, it does. And this has been coming
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Speaker 8: for a long period of time, sadly, I think, I mean,
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Speaker 8: I think back to some of the writings of Douglas Murray,
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Speaker 8: who wrote about this in his book The Strange Death
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Speaker 8: of Europe, talked about all of these sorts of things
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Speaker 8: in coming up down the pipe. And you know, really,
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Speaker 8: this I think comes back to previous governments who've allowed
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Speaker 8: mass migration on an enormous scale like that has to
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Speaker 8: be sheeted back to the Conservative the Tory governments as well.
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Speaker 8: Everybody who's been involved needs to take some of the blame.
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Speaker 8: This concept of Western guilt, you know, the feeling that
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Speaker 8: somehow the West can solve the problems of the third
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Speaker 8: World by simply taking large, unchecked numbers and having poorous
42:43
Speaker 8: board is one of the things I've been very grateful for.
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Speaker 8: Here has been the work of coalition government did people
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Speaker 8: like Tony Abbott and indeed Peter Dutton to avoid this crisis.
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Speaker 8: Some concerned, of course we're seeing it again, but really
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Speaker 8: this has been entirely, entirely predictable, very sad. We have
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Speaker 8: to heed those lessons here in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Danny and I said, as soon as the c
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Speaker 2: IFMAU gets off the front pages, or we move on
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Speaker 2: to other vishes, which we have.
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Speaker 3: We've moved on to the Olympic Games.
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Speaker 2: The government's going to hope that no one notices that
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Speaker 2: they don't end up doing anything. We have more reports
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Speaker 2: today allegations levied against the former CFMU boss John Setka,
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Speaker 2: also the head of Victorian Health Services union. They're being
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Speaker 2: investigated by Victoria Police and the Farework Commission into allegations
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Speaker 2: that some three million dollars of union money has sort
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Speaker 2: of gone missing. The allegation is, you know, a ghost
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Speaker 2: invoices about printing and printing that was never done, tickets, alcohol,
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Speaker 2: all of these things. This takes me back John O
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Speaker 2: to the days when we had Craig Thompson in the
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Speaker 2: Parliament and the infamous Health Services Union and the whole
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Speaker 2: Gillard era. They have got to outlaw the CFMU, not
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Speaker 2: just put it on life support.
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Speaker 3: They've got to outlaw it and not take a donation.
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Speaker 5: Spot on Peter.
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Speaker 19: They were dark days when Craig Thompson was getting away
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Speaker 19: with what he did.
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Speaker 5: And this is.
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Speaker 19: Why a hallmark again of Coalition policy is to actually
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Speaker 19: crack down on illegal conduct by unions.
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Speaker 5: Unions have a place and that is to represent workers.
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Speaker 19: Many unions do a great job, but you've just reeled
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Speaker 19: off a couple of examples there where unions actually are
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Speaker 19: ripping off their members and taking everyone for a ride.
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Speaker 19: Because under this government, as you rightly pointed out, if
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Speaker 19: we look the other way and hope no one else
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Speaker 19: is remembering what happened, they'll get away with it.
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Speaker 5: It is more than a pattern of behavior.
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Speaker 19: And this government, upon being elected, cheered on the abolition
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Speaker 19: of the ACC and we now know how that's ended
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Speaker 19: with the CFMU.
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Speaker 5: They turn the blind eye to this sort of conduct.
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Speaker 19: And Murray Watt, who is the new Ion Ministry, I'm
44:55
Speaker 19: sure is still starting having not been given the coveted
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Speaker 19: Home Affairs portfolio. But he has a responsibility now these
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Speaker 19: things are being laid back for all to sea.
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Speaker 5: And if he does his.
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Speaker 19: Usual thing at pointing to everyone else and saying that
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Speaker 19: someone else's problem and the Coalition government were bad when
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Speaker 19: they were in government, then he's failing. But he does
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Speaker 19: have to crack down on this, and this government actually
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Speaker 19: owes it to workers. These unions should actually be standing.
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Speaker 7: Up for.
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Speaker 2: Given your outrage at the time, alexandtiqu about vaccine mandates
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Speaker 2: and other things, I'm interested in what you thought when
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Speaker 2: you saw Don Perrote retire from the Parliament yesterday and
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Speaker 2: say he regretted vaccine mandates, but he left them in place,
45:37
Speaker 2: and of course in Victoria they are still in place.
45:41
Speaker 2: If you're a firefighter and you've been stood down, you
45:43
Speaker 2: haven't been vaccinated, you still can't work in Victoria.
45:47
Speaker 3: Yet we haven't had the pandemic.
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Speaker 2: It hasn't been a frontline issue for now only two years.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of this?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean it's sometimes said to me it's
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Speaker 8: time to move on. Well, I say, in response to that,
46:01
Speaker 8: we can't move on until we have had a full
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Speaker 8: inquiry for a royal commission, no less frankly in relation
46:07
Speaker 8: to what happened and how it happened. Look, I mean,
46:09
Speaker 8: I will say I don't know Dominic Perrete. I suspect
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Speaker 8: I would like him very much if I did. He
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Speaker 8: seems like a very likable bloke and bloke whose heart
46:16
Speaker 8: is in the right place. But I've got to tell you, Peter,
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Speaker 8: I'm getting very sick of politicians telling us what they
46:22
Speaker 8: think on the way out the door, having a mere
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Speaker 8: culper moment on the way out when the opportunity was
46:27
Speaker 8: there to do something at the time. And that's tough.
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Speaker 8: That's tough criticism, but that applies to everyone. This was
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Speaker 8: never ever an issue which can simply be sheeted off
46:36
Speaker 8: by way of simply referring to the health advice at
46:39
Speaker 8: the time. We knew in twenty twenty one that these
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Speaker 8: injections were not stopping transmission. There was never ever ever
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Speaker 8: a justification for mandating, and people will put to a
46:49
Speaker 8: lot of harm and a lot of financial experience, put
46:52
Speaker 8: in an invidious position in many cases as to whether
46:54
Speaker 8: or not to choose their job or to consent to
46:58
Speaker 8: a treatment they may not have wanted. So We've got
47:00
Speaker 8: a long way to go down this path. These questions
47:03
Speaker 8: are going to continue to be asked. Myself and many
47:05
Speaker 8: others in Parliament are still asking them and will continue
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Speaker 8: to ask them until we get answers and we don't
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Speaker 8: ever ever repeat those mistakes again.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly before we go, if Peter Dutton is elected
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Speaker 2: at the next election, is there a commitment from the
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Speaker 2: Coalition Alex and John O to have a Royal commission
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Speaker 2: into the COVID pandemic.
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Speaker 5: Alex gave Alex.
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Speaker 8: Well, sorry, well, look, I'm not aware that there is.
47:32
Speaker 8: I'd certainly be hoping there will be, and I'd be
47:34
Speaker 8: pushing for it. I think the time as well and
47:36
Speaker 8: truly come, and it's overdue. We need to for the
47:39
Speaker 8: sake of our entire country to make sure that we
47:42
Speaker 8: don't look.
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Speaker 5: We will announce our policies well the election.
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Speaker 19: But what I will say is I think Peter's made
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Speaker 19: it very clear that Australians were short changed with the
47:53
Speaker 19: inquiry that was set up and the fact that we
47:56
Speaker 19: let off the hook all of the premiers of our country.
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Speaker 3: Did well.
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Speaker 2: That wasn't fair, that was you're not the health of
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Speaker 2: minister's shadow there at all, but thank you for that.
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Speaker 2: I'll raise that directly with Peter Dutton and myself. Thank you, Jents,
48:08
Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Seeing next week after reat Kel
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Speaker 2: Richards plenty.
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Speaker 3: Of words right, let's bring you.
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Speaker 2: Straight in how resident works with Kel Richards with words
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Speaker 2: for this week.
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Speaker 3: We've got a bit of an Olympic theme. Kel.
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Speaker 2: One of our viewers, Chinese says it can't stand to
48:26
Speaker 2: hear the words meddle and podium, as in are they
48:30
Speaker 2: going to meddle or are they going to podium.
48:32
Speaker 3: In this race used as a verb. What do you think?
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Speaker 11: Well, English is a living language. It's a river, not
48:39
Speaker 11: a lake. And some of the changes are changes Peter,
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Speaker 11: that you and I would rather much not have and
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Speaker 11: we do not like. And this is a good example
48:48
Speaker 11: of that. We didn't need this change, but it's happened.
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Speaker 11: It's been happening since the Sydney Olympics in twenty so,
48:53
Speaker 11: twenty four years ago. I think we've lost this one.
48:57
Speaker 11: We're reminded how much it irritates us every four years
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Speaker 11: when they live has come up. But you know, English
49:02
Speaker 11: has been turning nouns into verbs and verbs into nouns
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Speaker 11: for one thousand years Shakespeare did it, and this time
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Speaker 11: those famous exponents of polished English, the sports commentators, have
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Speaker 11: stolen this one.
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Speaker 2: They won it, all right, Let's go to envoy, I
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Speaker 2: say on voice. Some people say envoy, but I say envoy.
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Speaker 2: Will tell me if that's right. Peter is concerned that
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Speaker 2: it's an inappropriate use of the word.
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Speaker 3: He says, if the job of these.
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Speaker 2: Politicians is to get out on our behalf, maybe they
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Speaker 2: should be called a mysteries.
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Speaker 3: He reckons that might be more appropriate. What do you think.
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Speaker 11: I think he's quite right. The word envoy came into
49:39
Speaker 11: English from French around sixteen sixty somewhere around there, and
49:43
Speaker 11: it comes from the French verb to send, So it's
49:45
Speaker 11: the idea of this is someone who is sent to
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Speaker 11: represent a government, and usually an envoy or on voi,
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Speaker 11: if you like, is said with a message from one
49:53
Speaker 11: so sovereign government to another sovereign government, or maybe a
49:56
Speaker 11: group of sovereign governments. The idea of a sovereign government
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Speaker 11: sends an envoy to its own people is a very
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Speaker 11: odd use of language. I have to say, if they've
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Speaker 11: got a message for their people, just tell us, don't
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Speaker 11: send us an envoy, all right?
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Speaker 3: Can we fit double cross in oh?
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Speaker 11: Double cross comes from sports betting. A double cross started
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Speaker 11: off with a sportsman who accepted a bribe to lose
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Speaker 11: a game and then turned around and won the game anyway.
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Speaker 11: He crossed his fans by accepting the bribe and then
50:31
Speaker 11: crossed his conspirator by winning anyway.
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Speaker 17: A double cross.
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Speaker 3: Aha, like a double agent. Got it? Got it? Cal Richards,
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Speaker 3: thank you as always.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's it for me. Back here tomorrow at
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