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Targeting Trump! Inside America’s dangerous political climate · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  I'm Chris Cordani, your host for this edition of the show.
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  We have a Lieutenant Colonel retired British Army Intelligence Tim Wilson with us, distinguished fellow, another distinguished fellow would be Navy Captain Pete O'Brien.
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  He's uh also retired, but also we have Carolyn Parlado, another distinguished fellow and board member.
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  And we've Karen Parlato, we're very happy to have you on with us.
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  And uh welcome to the program, all of you.
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  Thank you.
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  Good to be here.
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  So let's uh let's jump right into it because uh I would I had a whole list of things to discuss.
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  We're gonna get to them, but the another attempt on the president happened.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Another one, and this was in the middle of the the the uh correspondence dinner, the one that President Trump wanted to cancel in the first place.
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  Well Chris, that's not entirely accurate.
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  He didn't uh want to cancel it back in the day.
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  Right.
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  Um since he took over as president, he was so disgusted by them in 2017 through 21 that he didn't go.
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  Um and he didn't go last year, but he agreed to go this year, and lo and behold, look what happens.
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  Well, keep in mind I agree with him during the first term when he said the press and the politicians should not be buddy buddy with each other.
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  Yep.
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  And he certainly doesn't be seem to be buddy buddies with many of them.
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  Um I think he appreciates honest reporting, but he certainly has no time for those that either lie or push propaganda lines without doing any research.
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  And there's an awful lot of them seems to do that.
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  They just take talking points from whoever their sources and they push them as if as if they're fact.
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  Um, but going back to the attempted assassination, boy, it's fascinating to discover more about when on what went on.
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  I am so impressed with the reaction of the uh the outer cordon or the middle cordon would be more accurate.
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  Um there were obvious failures went on there in that he managed to get his guns into the hotel.
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  Uh, but he didn't actually breach the inner perimeter and get into the bullroom.
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  Thank heaven, because with a shotgun, a pistol and knives, he could have done a heck of a lot of damage very quickly.
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  It's very interesting.
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  He he took a train all the way from California.
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  I'm presuming because he didn't dare check his suitcases and find his guns.
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  That it's why would they hilton know he had guns?
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  They wouldn't if they're just in a suitcase.
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  No, but 2001 through 200 or 2002 through 2006, Amtrak brought in a whole load of security where it supposedly went through magnetometers um and what have you.
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  That's gone away again.
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  We get blase about these things, and this is one of the results.
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  Uh, it's also a bit of a failure in the the hotel security as such.
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  Um rightly, it's now leading to an awful lot of calls to stop messing around and get this White House ballroom built.
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  It's interesting that and Trump jumped on that point in a heartbeat.
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  You know, he he is talking about how secure it would be.
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  Um, it's so this incident, which is horrible, has you know it's an earwind that blows no good.
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  It's given a lot of a lot of uh talking points and reasons for the ballroom, and it's also giving reasons for them to pass the budget and fund DHS because these guys are not being paid.
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  But on that, let me just jump in and point out that Trump had arranged private donations to pay for the ballroom, something that's been wanted for 150 years by presidents and the and the security people.
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  Um, he's arranged for it not to cost the nation anything.
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  It's not like spending uh billions of dollars or uh trying to build a uh a basketball court, taxpayer money.
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  It's not it's not like that.
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  It is true.
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  So it's almost like a donation, if you will, to the country, and it's long overdue considering the scope of uh scope of the world right now and the fact that you need to bring in more people to uh to a white house ballroom.
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  And he's also very, very good at building quickly and and knows how to do it.
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  Heaven knows he's managed enough construction, major construction projects, and yet we get activist judges who, in my opinion, purely through Trump derangement, want to block everything he does, including this free White House ballroom secure environment for cabinet members, and it's not just Trump, it's that you know the entire uh awful lot of the cabinet was there.
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  And the guy said he wanted to he wanted to kill all the Trump officials, so they weren't it wasn't just Trump.
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  And where do these nutcases come from?
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  The fact is, you look at your protests, you look at all these people out there.
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  He's some of these people are mentally deranged.
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  These people are uh I I it's almost like, and I understand as a marketer too, the the concept of trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator of your of the people you're trying to reach.
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  But this messaging like Trump is Hitler, Trump is uh uh is gonna destroy democracy.
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  Trump's administration is destroying the company because he's not a politician.
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  It takes all these deranged people out of their out of their comfort zone, and you have weirdos like the guy who was trying to shoot him on the near the golf course.
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  You have this cali.
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  This guy's a California teacher, and then a very bright man, I think.
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  He he graduated from Cal Tech.
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  His manifesto was nutty, but it was well written.
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  Umtelligence does not equate, however, to common sense.
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  No, or the mental mental health either.
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  Clearly, he went online and he had he was saying all these things that were just nonsensical.
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  Yep.
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  Intellect in his cabinet.
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  It's another truism as well.
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  The intellectual ability does also not equate to either common sense or knowledge.
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  A lot of these people have follow us.
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  Go ahead, Mike.
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  Ahead, right?
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  Right, right.
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  Right.
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  I mean, the the issue here is uh just because he he apparently is fairly bright, he's not an independent thinker.
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  I mean, the the issue here is uh just because he he apparently is fairly bright, he's not an independent thinker.
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  And no, uh, and so uh you've got this uh almost continual drum beat.
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  Uh and so uh you've got this uh almost continual drumbeat.
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  I mean, uh you know, go back to the uh the 2011 um correspondence dinner in which then President Obama stood up and ridiculed um.
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  I mean, uh you know, go back to the uh the 2011 um correspondence dinner in which then President Obama stood up and ridiculed um uh a fellow from Queens, Donald Trump.
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  Um, and and he has been essentially pilloried by the far left since that night.
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  Well, actually, a little before that, but but he has been a major element of uh uh a target for the for the far left for 15 years, yeah.
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  And uh for 15 years, there are folks out there like like this fellow uh who have heard senior figures on the left, mock this man, call him all sorts of things, call his family all sorts of things.
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  They've labeled his wife all sorts of horrible things, his kids, etc.
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  Uh, he has been he has been labeled and and again and again and again labeled as essentially subhuman, he's an untermension, and uh, and eventually that comes back to uh you know to uh to haunt us all, and it is now.
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  We've got no third time someone's tried to kill him that we know of, yeah.
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  And it's one of those classics, isn't it?
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  That Trump derangement syndrome.
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  Wow, it it there's no question that it starts with the political opposition um picked up and then and amplified vastly by the left-wing media, the uh the puppet media, what used to be called the mainstream media, which it isn't.
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  Well, but and and and think, but think of the wording here.
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  We had just last week, we had uh was it Jeffries who called for maximal warfare, yeah, maximal opposition with a picture of Trump in the background, right?
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  So you know words are important, words matter, and and uh, you know, and the the folks who are using these words need to be held to account.
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  I don't know how you can hold them to account because it there is doesn't be any mechanism at this point, but they need to be held to account.
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  Indeed.
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  And it's fascinating to me.
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  I mean, four out of 44 previous presidents have been assassinated, so it's a really really risky job.
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  Um, and you know by comparison, just by the way, the most uh dangerous industry we have in in the country is logging, and the risk of death in that is about 0.01 percent.
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  Trump was, you know, like I say, four out of 44 is nine percent of presidents have been assassinated.
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  And and of course, it's four out of 44 who have been assassinated.
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  Uh uh, but you also have a number of other folks who were shot at and uh thankfully uh didn't die.
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  Uh you know, yeah, and Teddy Roosevelt was hit, Ronald Reagan was hit.
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  Um Jerry Ford was almost hit.
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  Uh uh, you know, and it Teddy Roosevelt.
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  I'm sorry, Teddy Roosevelt.
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  Yeah, I said him earlier.
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  Um I missed it.
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  Sorry.
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  That's okay.
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  Um, you know, see so you've got if you look at the list here, uh 40 40 uh 40 45, 46 presidents here, 45, and and uh seven seven of them have been shot, and four of them have died.
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  Uh yeah, it's uh hell's belt.
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  We you know, we don't need people going around, you know, saying, well, he's a he's a Hitler and he's a fascist, and he's a this and he's a that.
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  That you know, in a country in a country of 300 million, you're gonna have a few thousand true nuts.
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  Yeah, isn't it truly interesting as well how many of these people that stand up and do this professional politicians, and you can clearly look at their record and see that it's projection, they project their feelings.
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  They want to though these people that are pushing this, the democrats in particular, know better than we the people.
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  They want they want to tell us what to do, and they're very much into things that we can't do and things we shouldn't do, and how right, you know, yeah.
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  I mean, you know, a little segue here, but but uh uh, you know, there's a there is a an issue here uh that has not been raised enough, and isn't it's just never raised enough, and that is the issue of democracy, a true democracy versus individual rights, and in a in uh, you know, you know well as I a democracy where literally it is that it is the will of the masses and the majority rules no matter what, yeah, uh is not a is not a safe society, and there are no minority rights, and and people who are minorities ought to remember that people are whatever minority, there are no minority rights in a democracy.
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  They're only what the what the the mass the mob wants, yeah, and and so you get all sorts of things, you know.
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  It could be uh you could be religious minority, you could be an ethnical ethnic minority, whatever it is, but democracies don't protect those.
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  No, absolutely, and and the great American experiment was very much about freedom and the rights of the individual to be free from government interference and what have you.
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  And my personal belief is that federal government should only be ever be involved in anything that it was listed in the constitution as within their remit.
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  The rest should go away.
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  Right.
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  And and when you when you stop and read the ninth and tenth amendments, and they ought to be read, everybody ought to read them once once a week.
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  Um they very specifically talk about government's authorities, the federal government authorities are only those granted to them by the people.
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  Yep.
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  And uh we are we we have a a large slice of the of the population, uh, perhaps half of the democratic party.
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  So call it 15% of the general population, the voting population.
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  Um doesn't agree with that.
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  They they want the federal government to be able to do whatever he wants.
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  And uh, we're gonna have to take a little break right now, but uh thank you for being with us so far.
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  We're gonna talk a little more.
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  I did want to bring up something you mentioned uh in the second round, Pete.
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  Back on Unleashed the Political News Hour, Chris Cordani here with Tim Wilson with Carolyn Barlato and with Pete O'Brien here.
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  We're discussing uh the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
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  And there's it goes a lot deeper.
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  I wanted to get into a couple of things.
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  We touched on the idea that the guy's a California teacher, the uh the assassin.
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  There's a deeper angle to this.
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  And I want to throw in there, but Pete in segment one, you mentioned something very important.
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  Uh and I generally work in lockstep.
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  And they're they're there.
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  This guy, the assessment was not he was an he was smart, but he was not an independent thinker.
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  Let me take you back to the 2024 Democrat National Committee Convention, where the lead speaker, the keynote speaker, said, and I quote, never underestimate the power of the collective.
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  Oh referring to the Democrats as the collective, which is what they are.
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  They think alike, they act alike, and they they they operate all for the cause.
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  And they have certain they I'm pretty sure the the more intellectual types know that they can get the more mentally deranged types.
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  Uh well, I absolutely know there's a there's a fascinating piece here.
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  Uh, a number of years ago, I was involved in some uh information warfare uh uh strategic messaging sort of stuff, um, with some countries in the in the uh Middle East and uh American, you know, you uh the US military working uh on some countries in the Middle East, and uh as part of that, we work with um some folks uh who came in from Madison Ave.
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  Because obviously uh messaging is what advertising people do.
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  That's that's the whole point of advertising is to is the message and to get people to act in a certain way, buy my product, uh, as it were.
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  And one of the things that uh they talk about is uh getting getting essentially digging into the psychology of the group that you're that you're targeting uh and getting them uh to behave in a certain way.
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  And and the the trick to it, of course, is identifying, if you will, um some particular, if you will, itch that that your product is going to scratch, right?
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  And uh the goal in all of this is what is something they call um uh loyalty beyond price.
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  These are the the folks you everybody knows them, the guy who only drinks Coca-Cola or only drinks Pepsi, and doesn't matter what else is available or what else is not available, doesn't matter what the price is, you know, he only drinks Pepsi, only drinks coke.
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  Um in that idea that idea that someone buys into a product and at this at the simpler level or into an idea at the more complex level, and absolutely will not budge from it.
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  Uh is something that any group that's selling an idea, selling a product, that's what they're shooting for.
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  And somehow, remarkable, uh really uh scary but remarkable, uh, is the Democratic Party has a very large slice of folks uh who have bought into essentially anything that comes out of the leadership's mouths, uh, and it doesn't matter what it is, they buy into it.
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  And and there only is one way this can be so that the way this is so is that uh the school systems in the United States have been for the large part in the over over the course of a long period of time, the last 100 plus years, have been co-opted by uh by the far left and and by a very consistent message from the far left who have started it all by taking over the colleges.
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  And so you have this you have this an amazing uh process uh starting, as I said, more than 100 years ago, where called the college professors and then the college professors teaching the teaching the students call the students becoming teachers themselves, etc.
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  And and have sold this idea of uh democracy, not republic, uh, and this idea of um the state, uh not the individual.
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  Uh, in this idea of uh uh ethics, not morals, and you wrap all that up in what in a tight little ball, and you have sort of where we are right now.
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  The ball, and you have sort of where we are right now.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, and I think the thing we have the the fear here is that the is the lack of recognition that this is this is gonna take a couple of generations to unravel.
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  And I think the thing we have, the the fear here is that the is the lack of recognition that this is this is going to take a couple of generations to unravel.
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  This isn't gonna be quick, it isn't gonna be easy.
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  This isn't going to be quick, it isn't going to be easy.
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  Absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  And I think it it's fascinating what you're saying, because what immediately sprang to my mind when you started your description of what's going on is the Nazi movement in Germany back in the 20s and 30s, um, where they had a really bad time going on.
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  And I think it's fascinating what you're saying because what immediately sprang to my mind when you started your description of what's going on is the Nazi movement in Germany back in the 20s and 30s, um, where they had a really bad time going on, having lost World War One, and the Nazi power party rose to power very much as a collective movement, as a everybody must do what we say.
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  And that that is where when people talk about calling Trump a Nazi, they're completely wrong.
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  The man is shown by his actions that he believes in individual freedoms and respect for the individual.
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  And I find it fascinating that the left, there are two that there's a lot of criticism goes around.
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  There are two main types of criticism.
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  And when I was a young soldier trying to become an officer, one of the things that they kept telling me was there are two types of leadership.
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  And one uses constructive criticism to pick out the faults, improve and go forward.
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  The other side uses destructive criticism.
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  They don't make good leaders, they are basically out for themselves.
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  It's a personal insecurity that turns into other things, paranoia and what have you.
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  And that is this destructive criticism of everything you do is wrong.
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  Well, that's a great definition of Trump derangement system syndrome to me.
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  Everything he does is wrong automatically and must be slapped in the most ridiculous, outrageous terms.
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  And it's time people started to recognize in my view.
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  I'm a great believer in you can do anything you want, provided it doesn't hurt anybody, and provided it doesn't affect me personally.
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  I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home.
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  I don't care what you do.
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  I love it that there are people out there who try to help all the time.
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  The police, the emergency services in general, the military, or ice now being about to maybe to be called nice, the national immigration customs enforcement enforcement.
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  That's fabulous because they've been seen at the airport being nice.
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  They are useful, they are helpful, and they are only picking up people who broke the law by coming here illegally.
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  And like I say, it's this very basic to me construction of are you a constructive criticizer who wants to improve things and go forward, or are you a destructive criticizer who only wants to say everything everybody else is does is wrong, and you should all do what I say.
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  You know, further to Pete's point back a hundred years ago or so, um, and John Dewey was one of the moving forces.
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  There were small schools that were by and large good, um, all over the country, and the movement was you have to consolidate, you have to make big schools.
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  And a lot of communities didn't want their schools closed, and they were forcefully closed.
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  Now there's a lot of data that large schools are not nearly as good as small schools, but it's gone too far.
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  I don't know that you could go back.
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  Well, but that's part of this, truly at a lower level.
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  Isn't school choice the school choice ideas?
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  Isn't that very much what we're talking about?
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  Isn't that we're going back that way?
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  Yeah, and if you start, and I'm a great believer, you always start at the lowest level you can and build up.
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  So if we do get school choice coming in, allowing parents to choose which school their their kids can go to, then you go on to um, and there's a whole raft about secondary college education, uh, a raft of things going on there.
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  But there are a few good colleges around, and people are picking up on them because they want to, um, because they want their kids to have a decent education.
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  The other part of it, however, is that there is a vast shortage in this country of electricians, plumbers, and the like.
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  And there's this wonderful micro movement, and he's being asked to try and help generate, you know, hundreds of thousands of good, very well-paid lifetime jobs.
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  We're always gonna need electricians, we're always gonna need carpenters, we're always gonna need plumbers and plumbers.
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  You need a if you have a backed up toilet at nine at night, you need a plumber, you know.
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  And I do think that this partly because of the massive failures of of the colleges, but also, you know, people are going to college and being trained for really boring, non-challenging jobs.
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  I think that the trend is people are seeing, oh, you know, I can make 25,000 a year as a coder and AI is gonna take it away anyway, or I can make 125,000 as an electrician.
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  Maybe I won't go to college, maybe I'll learn how to be an electrician.
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  And I think that's growing fairly rapid.
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  Well, the mentality has to change, though, if you think about this.
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  The the idea is when I when I was growing up in the 80s, the the my our parents, all of our kids' parents are saying we're pushing us to go to college.
• 26:39
  Oh, absolutely.
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  And in fact, that was the time where I guess the college degree was worth a lot more, I suppose.
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  So one can argue that, but as the as the time went on, we're seeing uh we're seeing we're seeing the rise of these for-profit curricula, these for-profit degree programs.
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  I'm not uh again, we need the stems, we need mathematics, and even even communications media.
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  I know they we talk about my my degree, but the fact is uh you learn actual skills that way.
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  Uh the other as long as a certain certain certain specifics on that, but people go in and they they learn, I guess, ethnic studies or whatever study or intersectional studies, and there really is no overhead to the college.
• 27:25
  They pay a professor or two, maybe a few, but they don't pay for labs, uh, they don't pay for equipment, they don't pay for really anything besides uh the occasional text, but the kids pay for the textbooks, and all you really do is throw money at the professors, you make all the money coming in with lesser students, and they they clean up these are for-profit diploma mills, if you will.
• 27:46
  I have a parent.
• 27:48
  I have a plea for any parent who's got a teenager, maybe heading towards college years.
• 27:54
  Have a think about what how you're gonna encourage your child to be a productive member of society rather than a um a leech on society.
• 28:00
  Society rather than a um a leech on society.
• 28:05
  Um this is where the argument for student loan forgiveness rides.
• 28:05
  Uh this is where the argument for student loan forgiveness rides.
• 28:10
  Democrats are saying, Well, these people, these kids come in, they they they think they're gonna get uh hundreds of thousands of dollars a year coming out of college because they were they were told that.
• 28:10
  Democrats are saying, Well, these people, these kids come in, they they think they're gonna get uh hundreds of thousands of dollars a year coming out of college because they were they were told that.
• 28:18
  Well, they're trying to get degrees that become the next joy read or the next uh uh whatever activist who runs some kind of SPLC or something like that.
• 28:18
  Well, they're trying to get degrees that become the next joy read or the next uh uh whatever activist who runs some kind of SPLC or something like that.
• 28:26
  Realizing these people are never giving up their jobs till they're 80.
• 28:26
  Really people are never giving up their jobs till they're 80, if you will.
• 28:31
  Same with the Congress members, they come in, they shouldn't get forgiven, uh and they shouldn't there shouldn't be taxpayer money going to these kids.
• 28:38
  These colleges should give these kids refunds for for knowingly selling them crap degrees, the the colleges should, and so should the politicians who pushed this idea on them, right?
• 28:52
  Those those ideas, the idea that that uh you know you should grow up and go and and and what and what are they really selling?
• 29:01
  You should grow up go grow up and go be either a member of some giant bureaucracy, a member of some NGO or a teacher, and those ideas are being sold to them when these kids are in the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth grade.
• 29:17
  Yep, and so that by the time they get to be a senior, the idea of you know, going out and being an engineer and making a new a new airplane is is completely uh subsumed by the idea of being a member of a bureaucracy that's going to tell some engineer what that airplane can and can't do.
• 29:41
  And so the the problem here is how do you separate that how do you pull apart that stream of of uh uh that impact on the on the student, and again, we you know it's an interesting thing to go back and look at the rise of fascism in the 20s and how uh uh really Mussolini uh really led the charge and followed by followed by the by uh Hitler and the Germans, but the this idea was that was loved by uh educators all around the world, and that the fascist movement got a lot of uh a lot of traction in the United States in the 20s and 30s, and it wasn't until really the war started that that the fascist movement very quickly died in the United States, but it took that war to kill the fascist movement in the United States, and and uh uh you know the the this idea that that these ideas that these concepts, these these scary ideas are easily killed, they're not it it took this monstrous thing called World War II to sort of bury the fascist movement, but not completely, and it hasn't killed the communist movement, and and so you know it these are gigantic ideas with gigantic amount of of horsepower and inertia behind them, uh that are gonna take generations to kill.
• 31:00
  I am so fascinated, and it and it is certainly a reflection on the current state of education, that these kids, like the mom dhami followers and other are they are just totally embracing Marxism, and clearly they don't know a thing about history, right?
• 31:22
  Well, they don't know what Marxism Marxism is either.
• 31:26
  They get the 30-second potted history from their friends of Marxism's and what Marxism and what a great thing it is.
• 31:34
  Churchill said it really well, didn't he?
• 31:36
  If you're if you're not a communist when you're 18, you have no soul, and if you're not a conservative by the time you're 25, you have no brain, right?
• 31:46
  Well, and the other thing is like Marxism's a dirty word.
• 31:49
  If you tell somebody that's a Marxist idea, they are shocked and horrified, and you are a bad person.
• 31:54
  So they never call it by what it is.
• 31:57
  I'm getting socialism the same way.
• 32:00
  I'm sorry, this is socialism, and people will say, Well, that's just terrible because it's a it's a bad thing, except that they have totally embraced it and they just don't know what it is.
• 32:10
  Right.
• 32:11
  Well, I mean, and and then we cut we coach it and uh they coach it in uh uh you know friendly friendly terms.
• 32:18
  It's it's it's democracy, but it's with a heart, and and we need to care.
• 32:22
  We need to care for each other, and we have enough money to do this, and uh you know, and it's it's uh the sort of never-ending stream of feel-good babble, uh, that never addresses reality.
• 32:33
  But it's feel-good babble where they never can't also consider the law of unintended consequences, right?
• 32:39
  You rightly pointed out, Pete.
• 32:41
  Democracy is really dangerous to minorities, and those minorities, it's not about race, sex, gender, anything else.
• 32:49
  It's about agree with the collective, as we were discussing earlier, or don't.
• 32:54
  And if you disagree, you are to be condemned.
• 32:58
  The woke movement will come and you know put you into a box um in so many ways.
• 33:05
  Right.
• 33:06
  Well, I mean, just think about what the what the uh what the fascists did in uh in uh Germany uh in the 30s, you know, then and they needed a scapegoat, so they latched on to uh the Jewish population, they latched on to a bunch of smaller groups, you know, the the gypsies, uh, etc.
• 33:24
  And uh, you know, it was it was anything to produce a scapegoat, yeah.
• 33:30
  Um so whenever something went wrong, they could always point and say, well, it was them, them guys did it.
• 33:38
  And you see the same thing uh uh on the on the left here.
• 33:44
  Whenever the left has a program, the program grinds forward and bumps up against something truly stupid.
• 33:49
  Their answer is, well, it's not that the program is stupid.
• 33:52
  The problem is is those the conservatives uh blocked it from being properly implemented.
• 33:58
  But well, those wretched conservatives actually thinking through the possible consequences and how it might limit somebody's freedoms, right?
• 34:06
  Well, so they they blocked it, yeah.
• 34:08
  Those guys on the left and on the right, rather they blocked it.
• 34:12
  How very dare they well call them fascists, but who are the fascists?
• 34:16
  The ones telling others what to do, or the ones saying no, I I want to leave you alone.
• 34:20
  Well, of course, I think what's the best part of that is is what is what is the what is Nazi stood for stand for the National Party, which is isn't that some version of democratic socialism?
• 34:32
  Yeah, a little bit.
• 34:34
  Yeah, what was what was Hitler when he was elected chancellor?
• 34:38
  What was the vote?
• 34:39
  I believe it was 98% in favor.
• 34:42
  Yeah, uh and in the in the Reichstag, yeah.
• 34:45
  I think that's right.
• 34:46
  Yeah, yeah.
• 34:48
  You know, when once once they had the had the situation in hand, they they arm twisted and they got what they wanted.
• 34:54
  And then they and then they started killing the opposition, you know, jailing them, putting them in the gula into the uh concentration camps and killing them.
• 35:00
  Putting them in the gula into the uh concentration camps and killing them.
• 35:04
  Hell hell, they started killing their own people who got in the way.
• 35:04
  Hell yeah, they started killing their own people who got in the way.
• 35:07
  Yeah.
• 35:07
  Yeah, look at the movie Bahnhofer, yeah.
• 35:07
  Look at the movie Bonhoffer.
• 35:09
  Yeah.
• 35:10
  What how they did it and what they were doing.
• 35:10
  What how they did it and what they were doing, and it is it is so shocking, right?
• 35:13
  And it is it is so shocking.
• 35:15
  Right.
• 35:16
  Even I didn't know they went in to the churches at one point and took off, took out all the religious symbols and hung up Nazi banners and pictures of your uh just to use that as a uh a
• 35:16
  Even I didn't know they went in to the churches at one point and took off, took out all the religious symbols and hung up Nazi banners and pictures of your uh roller.
• 35:27
  Just to use that as a uh a segue, I think, to um what one of the things that's going wrong is something we were talking about to some extent earlier.
• 35:36
  The lack of civility and ethics in modern US politics.
• 35:40
  I mean, you know, dueling uh they weren't kind to each other back in the days of the founding of the uh of the republic.
• 35:49
  Dueling was never do you know that dueling was never banned by federal law.
• 35:53
  We can still make it.
• 35:55
  They have slap fights now.
• 35:56
  That's a whole different thing.
• 35:57
  Yeah, um, but the rhetoric, words matter, Chris.
• 36:01
  Words really matter as as earlier.
• 36:04
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• 40:02
  Tim, you were talking about the need to reestablish civility in politics.
• 40:07
  It's gone by the wayside.
• 40:09
  You have you had a teacher trying to kill the president.
• 40:12
  You have nurses on town on on uh that are recording themselves on TikTok or whatever, going trying to go viral by telling people they want to uh let's say not give proper care and go as far as killing patients who are as Trump supporters, right?
• 40:29
  Teachers who are were caught on camera teaching kids propaganda how Trump is a Nazi, uh they're calling Trump a Nazi in a pedophile and all this other garbage that it's that's baseless.
• 40:40
  But they get away with it.
• 40:41
  So for all the people that are yelling about this, for people like this, this assassin, there are far more people that don't say a word, but they're still nasty in public with uh people they don't agree with.
• 40:52
  This the civility's gone.
• 40:54
  What's going on here?
• 40:55
  Well, like uh as I mentioned earlier, I mean, dueling was never banned by federal law.
• 41:00
  Back in the days of the founding fathers, it was actually reasonably common.
• 41:04
  State by state, it was banned slowly, but in 1859, there was still only 18 states that banned dueling.
• 41:12
  So there's some famous incidents from back then, but violence in politics is not unknown, is my point.
• 41:19
  However, Jefferson wrote a manual about how it should be conducted.
• 41:25
  And um, I honestly think that John Kennedy, Senator John Kennedy is one of the finest examples of staying civil, even if you're going to insult the opposition.
• 41:35
  Um really, really good at it.
• 41:39
  Um, but my point is just common sense again doesn't seem to matter.
• 41:46
  Um, and we have this rhetoric coming from the likes of Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.
• 41:52
  And if they're doing it as leaders of the main opposition party, effectively leaders of almost 50% of the country, the political leaders, that's a real problem.
• 42:00
  Country, the political leaders.
• 42:02
  That's a real problem.
• 42:03
  And I actually think that they need to be held to account and go back to Jefferson's manual and make it put add some, you know, add some teeth to it.
• 42:03
  And I actually think that they need to be held to account and go back to Jefferson's manual and make it put add some, you know, add some teeth to it.
• 42:13
  The hypocrisy of Congress in many of the ways it operates is enormous.
• 42:13
  The hypocrisy of of Congress in many of the ways it operates is enormous.
• 42:19
  We used to have a saying in New York never get between Chuck Schumer and a microphone.
• 42:19
  We used to have a saying in New York, never get between Chuck Schumer and a microphone.
• 42:24
  Yeah.
• 42:24
  Yeah, that's true.
• 42:25
  That's true.
• 42:26
  You just can't stop talking.
• 42:26
  You just can't stop talking.
• 42:29
  Now the
• 42:29
  Now, the okay, that leads to another little thing of mine.
• 42:33
  Um, I'm a huge believer in terms and age limits for Congress.
• 42:37
  Congress under the Founding Fathers was always designed.
• 42:41
  Well, I'll let Pete talk about that in a second, but I'll just say this.
• 42:45
  The average age of the first of the uh signers of the declaration and of the first Congress was 44.
• 42:52
  Nowadays, the average age of Congress is somewhere 58, 59.
• 42:57
  They insist on forced Congress insists on forced retirement for members of the bureaucracy, the civil service at 70.
• 43:07
  Yes, there are some very competent 80, 90, even centenarians.
• 43:12
  There are, but they're a mine terrible small minority.
• 43:17
  It would make sense to me that there was forced retirement from Congress from political office at age 70.
• 43:24
  Give the youngsters a chance.
• 43:25
  They all talk about doing it.
• 43:27
  There was a discussion about 75 and maybe uh a cognitive tests back in uh uh I guess a couple of years ago.
• 43:33
  Yeah, but if the so they've said they've set the bar with the civil service, right?
• 43:40
  They said it at 70.
• 43:42
  Apply that rules to yourselves, senators, congressmen, staffers.
• 43:47
  Well, we're also we're also in the era, and I want to get to Pete too on this because I want you I want to throw this on top before so to get your thoughts on this too.
• 43:54
  We've also uh ushered in the era of the career politician.
• 43:58
  Politicians know that they can they can let's just say learn the insider insider trading skill, uh learn the insider trading information for a long time.
• 44:07
  There they have a cushy job, they really uh they they can keep it until after they're they're they're well after they're retired, they get all sorts of perks.
• 44:15
  Why wouldn't you want to get away from that job?
• 44:17
  Why wouldn't you want to give up that job or nurture the next person or go back to the private sector when the public sector is just gives you everything you need, and uh all you have to do is shake hands and uh uh and get donations from people who want favors.
• 44:30
  Yeah, if I a couple of thoughts there.
• 44:33
  The the the first one is that um uh two years from now.
• 44:38
  So they there are a couple of things there.
• 44:42
  Uh the first thing is much more than the perks that you get out of being a congressman is the power you get with being a congressman, and uh that that is a uh very clearly anytime you've ever been to if you've ever been up to Capitol Hill and watched, there's a there is a there is a a an incredible uh uh almost drug like uh uh aura that surrounds uh surrounds that uh you know the the senior congressmen, the senior members of the various bureaucracies, power is uh the ultimate intoxicant, and uh to get these folks to give up power is uh a very difficult thing.
• 45:26
  And I and I don't think we need to go the route of age limit.
• 45:31
  I think what we need is simply go the age of the is the route of term limits.
• 45:34
  The the there need you know, whatever it might be.
• 45:37
  Let's let's call it and and we you know it can still be a lot, 20 years.
• 45:41
  You're allowed 20 years uh as a as a a an elected representative in the federal government, yeah.
• 45:48
  And that gives you that gives you two two terms as a senator and eight and uh and four terms as a congressman, and you're done.
• 45:54
  But 18 years, Pete would be the obvious compromise.
• 45:58
  18 is three terms as a senator, nine terms as a congressman.
• 46:02
  Right.
• 46:02
  I mean, I think and and I'm open to debate, but but but the idea that it's very clear, it's very clear that you're gonna have whatever it is, uh X number of years, and then you're done.
• 46:15
  Um the further so that that's an issue I think we absolutely ought to insist upon.
• 46:20
  One, two, there needs to be an associated limit to people, particularly on the congressional staff, because the congressional staffers have so much hidden power.
• 46:31
  Yeah, uh, the congressional staffers need to be need to be limited.
• 46:35
  And I would also submit that there needs to be some limit, which there isn't right now, there needs to be some limit to senior civilians in the in the government.
• 46:44
  I mean, in a Navy Admiral, uh, you know, if you're if you're more than 10 years as a flag officer in the US military, you're an odd duck.
• 46:52
  That's a very rare thing.
• 46:53
  But folks go in and become senior executive service uh folks and stay there for 20 years, and and and they accumulate an immense immense amount of if you will, hidden power.
• 47:04
  So I so that's one issue.
• 47:06
  The other issue, though, I think that that needs to be looked at, uh, and this really does.
• 47:13
  This gets right back to the to the matter we were talking earlier.
• 47:16
  And it's the issue of ethics uh versus morals.
• 47:19
  Um morals are about absolutes.
• 47:22
  Morals moral says it's wrong to murder, moral says uh it's it's uh if you're if you're a doctor or a nurse or or uh in health care, um, you treat people, it's absolute, it doesn't matter who it is.
• 47:38
  You talk to a doctor in the army or the navy, and a prisoner is brought in and he's hurt, that prisoner gets equal medical treatment.
• 47:46
  There's no there's no denying it.
• 47:48
  There's no saying, well, you know, he he's a freaking Nazi, I'm not gonna treat him.
• 47:52
  No, you can't.
• 47:53
  You a doctor who said that in World War II would wind up getting court-martialed.
• 47:56
  It is it is against uh military law.
• 48:00
  So for for someone to stand up and say that they they bump into or they used to bump into hard rules that were morals, they were absolutes.
• 48:11
  But what has happened over the last again, 100 years or so is we have substituted situational ethics for morals, and situational ethics are this horribly dangerous thing because they are in fact situational.
• 48:24
  I'll give you the you know, a very simple but extreme example.
• 48:28
  Murder is wrong, right?
• 48:31
  Murder, true murder, killing an innocent person, no reason at all is wrong.
• 48:35
  Unless, of course, you're in a group of assassins.
• 48:38
  If you're in a group of assassins, the the situational ethics of being a member of the Assassin Brotherhood is you have to carry out your contract.
• 48:47
  So ethically speaking, you're to be acting properly as an assassin to do this sort of thing.
• 48:55
  But it's it's more immoral, it's horribly immoral, but you've substituted ethics for morals, and you wind up essentially on the wrong end of the truly major issues.
• 49:00
  You've substituted ethics for morals, and you wind up essentially on the wrong end of the truly major issues.
• 49:07
  And and one of the things that has happened here in our country is that we have a whole bunch of uh folks, senior folks in the media, senior folks in in the business world, senior folks in government who routinely have replaced morals with ethics, and that's a function again of a failure of our education system.
• 49:07
  And one of the things that has happened here in our country is that we have a whole bunch of uh folks, senior folks in the media, senior folks in in the business world, senior folks in government who routinely have replaced morals with ethics, and that's a function again of a failure of our education system.
• 49:27
  Well put.
• 49:27
  Well put.
• 49:27
  It's also a uh partly the changing nature of the country because we're no longer just a Christian nation.
• 49:35
  So there are so many segments that I mean, hopefully there are basic moral things that everyone would agree on, but I'm not even sure about that.
• 49:49
  So it's it's harder to come up with a definition of morals or have everybody agree about it.
• 49:54
  Right.
• 49:54
  But I mean, but it but if if you had gone back to public schools in 1900, everybody didn't matter where where the public school was, everybody was taught the same moral values, right?
• 50:08
  You were taught those values in school, yeah.
• 50:10
  But over the course of really starting in 1883 and working forward, uh, they have slowly peeled morals out of the public forum.
• 50:21
  They've peeled morals out of schools, and they yeah, I think yeah, teachers can be hired for teaching morals because they would be accused of teaching their morals and not whatever the uh anybody else's morals.
• 50:34
  Which they're doing now anyway, if you think about it.
• 50:36
  Oh, yeah.
• 50:36
  A lot of these teachers are teaching their morals, their uh what was the and again?
• 50:41
  You see this.
• 50:42
  I know there's a there it's a few out of the many, but you have to think there are so many more that have kept their mouth shut.
• 50:47
  You had the one woman who is uh went viral by saying that she didn't have the American flag up in her room.
• 50:53
  The kid wanted to do salute one for the Pledge of Allegiance, so she had them salute the gay flag, which is technically a socialist affirmation flag, in my opinion.
• 51:01
  The gay flag is not about being gay anymore, it's about the idea that socialists have your back.
• 51:06
  And if you raise this flag, you're telling you're actually dog whistling to the socialists saying we have your back.
• 51:12
  But we can talk about this uh several times, and we'll probably have this discussion uh during future shows.
• 51:19
  I did want to take some time and talk about what's going on in the Middle East.
• 51:22
  Iran supposedly is threatening uh threatening the US with mines, but I haven't heard much about uh a ship a ship running into a mine yet.
• 51:33
  Is are they kind of just threatening us?
• 51:35
  Are they are they really that uh desperate as far as their arms are concerned?
• 51:40
  We we have been hearing uh since uh since the middle of February, um I'm sorry, the middle of March, that there are mines in the strait.
• 51:47
  Um we have we have looked, we have looked, we have not seen any mines in the strait, we have not found any mines.
• 51:55
  We knew roughly where they kept their mines, we knew how they were deploying mines.
• 51:59
  We know what we've watched those boats move, we've attacked those boats, we've attacked the facilities that were the where we thought the mines were stored, all that stuff's been hit.
• 52:07
  Um and we still have not seen a mine in the strait.
• 52:10
  The problem is, of course, is that just the idea that there's a mine in the strait makes it a very shaky and uh idea for any ship owner to let his ship run through the strait because one mine, if it's a lucky hit, uh a mine hits in the center of the ship, hits breaks the keel, uh a relatively small mine can sink a relatively large ship.
• 52:36
  Um it's a bad deal.
• 52:37
  Um and and it doesn't take a lot of technology that the technology of mines, uh, you know, the mine that hit the Princeton and the mine that hit the Samuel Roberts, um, or they hit the mine, actually.
• 52:49
  Those were world war one era designs.
• 52:53
  Floating a floating big ball mine with little chemical probes sticking out.
• 52:57
  You've seen them in the movies.
• 52:59
  Um those are uh that's the that's a 1915 technology.
• 53:05
  They're also that 1915 technology we've developed a lot of counters to.
• 53:09
  And if there were that type of mine in the Gulf at the moment, don't you think we would have found it, Pete?
• 53:15
  Oh, I I think we probably would have found it by now.
• 53:17
  You know, that you can deploy those things and and and they can they may take a couple of days to find, but you will find them uh after a while.
• 53:23
  Um we haven't found any.
• 53:25
  We haven't found any.
• 53:26
  Now, there are other types of mines, there are very sophisticated mines that have been made in the last 20, 30 years that can do all sorts of clever stuff.
• 53:35
  Again, we haven't found any of those either.
• 53:37
  So it it's one of these things where uh you have to respect the the threat up to a certain point, but at a certain point, you really do need to sign a you know, grit your teeth and go.
• 53:47
  And and and actually to help you do that, there's the geography of the place where it's it's it's the deep channel is on the south side, as you you know, and the uh it's 20 miles wide, so it would take an awful lot of mines to just put a single string all the way across.
• 54:05
  Right.
• 54:05
  Uh and if we've got clear channels, that was always the way through in the in World War War II for sure, was the minesweepers would go in and clear a channel.
• 54:14
  It's not the first time Iran would have bluffed either.
• 54:17
  Right, and you know, and it's one of these things too where you know minefields were laid uh all off of all sorts of ports uh in in previous wars.
• 54:25
  But one of the things you need to do in laying a minefield is you need to put enough out there, and you need to and you need to keep going back and and checking it because mines go off by themselves, mines break free, mines sink, mines, you know, and and if they had simply gone out sometime in March, February or March, and laid some mines.
• 54:47
  First off, we would have seen it, and secondly, by now we would have found one.
• 54:52
  And that's just you know, that that sounds cavalier because I'm sitting 5,000 miles away from the problem.
• 54:57
  But the fact of the matter is is that's the sort of what you need to do.
• 55:01
  You need to at a certain point say, okay, we're calling it open, go.
• 55:06
  And sorry, but we can shove you know large naval vessels through, and if they were to lead a convoy and everybody else fought steams carefully behind them, and I think the captains would have a pretty good incentive to be yeah careful where they were steering.
• 55:24
  Right.
• 55:25
  They could be even even in an LNG tanker, you could be reasonably confident if you're the fourth or ship fifth ship through that hulls well.
• 55:34
  And and you know, and the other thing too is is and this has been done before multiple times, is if you really want to be careful, you go rent a ship, you go pay for a ship, and and it goes you know, a large ship, a big a big oil tank of some sort that's not being used someplace, and there's always there's always oil tankers sitting around that aren't being used, and it steams through first.
• 55:56
  Yep.
• 55:57
  A few of the there are empty tankers trying to get into the gulf, right?
• 56:00
  the Gulf.
• 56:00
  Right.
• 56:00
  Right.
• 56:00
  Right.
• 56:01
  So, you know, some of those give them give them insurance and set up uh set up a huge convoy to clear clear a path and then send everybody out.
• 56:01
  So you know some of those give them give them insurance and set up a set up a huge convoy to clear clear a path and then send everybody out.
• 56:11
  Right.
• 56:11
  Right.
• 56:12
  And so that you know it really comes down to very simply at a certain point you just have to grit your teeth and do it.
• 56:12
  And so that you know it really comes down to very simply at a certain point, you just have to grip your teeth and do it.
• 56:19
  And that's that's sort of I think we're sort of approaching that point.
• 56:19
  And that's that's sort of I think we're sort of approaching that point.
• 56:22
  The the the folks will argue against you when that are the insurance companies.
• 56:22
  The the the folks will argue against doing that are the insurance companies.
• 56:26
  Carolyn, Pete, Tim, thank you very much for being with us here on a
• 56:26
  Carolyn Pete Tim thank you very much for being with us here on America Out Loud's Unleash the Political News Hour.
• 56:33
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• 56:39
  You can check out Pete's latest article too a uh an open letter to the Secretary of the Navy.
• 56:45
  So check it out there at ProjectSentinel.com.
• 56:48
  I want to thank you for being with us.
• 56:49
  And as always I'm Chris Cordani.
• 56:52
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