Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Parmjeet Parmar: Act Education and Workforce Committee representative on its interim report into online harm

Transcript

Parmjeet Parmar: Act Education and Workforce Committee representative on its interim report into online harm · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: So, in the wake of Australia booting under sixteens off
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: social media, our own government's Education and Workforce Committee has
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: dropped its interim report on youth online harm and it's
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: recommended cross party support on a potential age ban here
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: and the creation of a new online regulator. So Dr
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: palmje Palmer represents Act on that committee, the Education and
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Workforce Committee, and Palmjeek joins me. Now, hello, hello, so
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: are you in support of the age band?
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: So what I would say is that you will see
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: that we have a different view in the report and
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: the reason for the different view is that we felt
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: as the parties are the parties that is National and
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Labor are getting ahead of themselves because there is more
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: work that needs to be done. And so what we
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: saw was that they were already jumping to policy recommendations
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: talking about the band.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: So what what? No, So what work needs to be done?
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Do we need to be just sitting back and just
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: watching whether the Australian thing works?
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: So definitely, I would say to my parliamentary colleagues that
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: we need to take a deep breath, We should watch
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: the role out of this policy in Australia because this
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: is a natural experiment happening, and we have this great
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: opportunity to learn from them in real time. So we
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: should not be rushing for a policy of ban because
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: in my view it would be kind of irresponsible for
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: us to do that because we can learn from Australia.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: And also already I'm seeing some reports in media about
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: young people trying to get around the band. So the
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: ultimate goal is to reduce harm, but with what is happening,
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: we know that we will be pushing young people into unregulated,
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: harder to monitor, darker spaces of Internet, so there will
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: be more suffering, more suffering and more secretly.
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: So in that case, you need an online regulator, and
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: that's been proposed in this report. So what would an
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: online regulator do?
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: So the idea of this vote was actually to summarize
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: what we have heard and also summarized the advice. So
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: the idea of this report and trim report was not
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: to provide any solutions or recommendations, and that is what
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: our concern is. So we need to do more work
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: in the Select Committee to ensure that we come to
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: right kind of conclusions. And if you asked me, I
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: trust ban as a solution at this stage, what I'm
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: seeing in Australia, my response will be now and we
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: need to understand more what this regulator would do, because
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: we need to understand what the powers of this regulator
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: will be. So what I'm saying is that at this
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: stage we needed to actually just summarize submissions and summarize advice.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: But seeing that some parties have jumped to policy recommendations,
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: actually that compromise.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, exactly, can I just summarize? Can I just
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: summarize it? Therefore that you and act say, ty Hoe,
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: let's have a look at what's happening, and you don't rush,
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: but you're saying that National and Labor they're rushing in
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: far too quickly because they feel it's a positive thing.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: It's a good vote, vote winn.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: So our concern is this that the ultimate goal of
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: this inquiry was to provide some kind of solutions. So
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: if we identify some risks, we have to come up
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: with solutions. Just like cars, we know they're dangerous, we
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: need seat belts, we need road rules, so we need
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: to do something. But that doesn't mean we jump to
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: this conclusion of a pen or a regulator. That was
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: not the purpose of this report. So you'll remember that
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: when I wrote to the Select Committee, the plan was
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: to provide a report in November, and then the SELEC
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: Committee realizes it's actually a bigger task than it was imagined.
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: And that's why this report is split into two parts.
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: The first part was about submissions and advice, not jumping
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: to policy recommendations without getting proper advice on solutions and
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: recommendations and how they would work.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: And really I thank you. Panji Paman is the Xbox
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: person who's on that committee. For more familiar edition with
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge, listen live to News Talks it be from
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: five am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio