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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: I'm Colin McGady and I have a theory.
- 0:03SPEAKER_00: Bob Dylan's Like A Rolling Stone changed what a popular song could be and every rock
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: and pop song since can be connected back to it.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: This is a journey through musical evolution, following the influences,
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: shared ideas and unexpected encounters that connect one record to another.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: Six songs, five connections, one destination.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Six Degrees of Dylan.
- 0:26[music]
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: Before we begin, a quick listening note.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: For licensing reasons, the songs themselves aren't included in this episode.
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: You'll find today's Spotify playlist linked in the post notes.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: I'll let you know when to pause and listen,
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: and point you towards particular moments in each song.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: Take your time, then come back when you're ready to follow the next connection.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: Enjoy!
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: This morning, we begin with a record that seems to have kicked its own door down.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: The Prodigy's Firestarter makes an entrance through Keith Flint's voice,
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: a hammering beat, and a jagged guitar texture.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: But part of that texture has a previous life.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: The single credits a sample from the Breeders' SOS.
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: Our route follows that fragment through Kim Deal and Pixies to Nirvana,
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: then changes temperature with Neil Young before arriving at Dylan.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: These connections are different kinds of evidence.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: A sample is a material link.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: An acknowledged influence is a musician's testimony.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: A listening comparison is my argument.
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: For our first stop, listen to the abrasive repeating figure against the drums,
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: and to how Flint's vocal turns rhythm into a character.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: Pause for the full album recording of Firestarter, then come back.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: Now the sample leads us into its own room.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: SOS, from the Breeders' 1993 album Last Splash, is a short instrumental written by Kim Deal.
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: The record's quartet was Kim and Kelly Deal, Josephine Wiggs and Jim McPherson,
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: with production credited to Kim and Mark Freegard.
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: We should not turn a songwriting credit into a claim about which person played
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: the sampled guitar.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: What matters here is the transformation.
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: A detail in a band recording becomes a repeating component
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: in the Prodigy's electronic construction.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: Listen for the guitar's wiry texture and the way the brief arrangement makes
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: that texture an event.
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: Then imagine it cut loose from this room and locked to a different beat.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: Pause for the Breeders S.O.S.
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: and return for the person who joins our next two bands.
- 2:43SPEAKER_00: Kim Deal takes us from the Breeders back to Pixies.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: On Gigantic, she supplies the lead vocal as well as belonging
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: to the band's original rhythm section.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: We're hearing the Surfer Rosa album performance in its 2007 remaster rather
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: than the later single re-recording.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: Start with the bass figure and notice how much
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: of the song's character it establishes before the larger surge arrives.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: The connection to Nirvana is documented, but it needs careful wording.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: Kurt Cobain told Rolling Stone that when writing Smells Like Teen Spirit,
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: he was trying to emulate Pixies and their quiet to loud dynamics.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: He did not identify Gigantic as that song's specific source.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: It is our chosen example of a band language he admired.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Pause here for Pixie's Gigantic, then come back.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: Nirvana make the change in pressure impossible to miss.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: Smells Like Teen Spirit was written by Kurt Cobain, Chris Novoselic and Dave Grohl,
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: and produced by Butch Vig for Nevermind.
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: Listen to the difference between the exposed verse and the full weight of the chorus.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: The riff is only part of the effect.
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: The arrangement makes the distance between those states feel enormous.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: Our next connection is more sombre.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: Cobain's final note later invoked a refrain shared
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: by Neil Young's acoustic My My Hey Hey and its electric counterpart.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: That is part of the song's later reception,
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: not evidence that teen spirit borrowed Young's music and not a way of explaining
- 4:14SPEAKER_00: a person's death through a lyric.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: Pause for Nirvana's original album recording, then return as we leave the amplified room.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: The selected My My Hey Hey is Neil Young alone with an acoustic guitar,
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: despite the catalogue's joint artist credit with Crazy Horse.
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: This performance was recorded at the Boarding House in San Francisco in 1978
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: and released on Rust Never Sleeps the following year.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: Young and Jeff Blackburn share the writing credit.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: Without the electric version's force, the questions about Rock's endurance feel exposed.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Listen to the guitar's repeating movement.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: The fragile edge of the voice and the space around each phrase.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: Then, our final documentary link comes from Young himself.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: In Waging Heavy Peace, he recalls hearing Like a Rolling Stone in Toronto and says
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: that its poetry, attitude and atmosphere became part of his own makeup.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: Pause for My My Hey Hey, Out of the Blue, then come back.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: Young's testimony brings us to Dylan's actual recording.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: It does not prove that My My Hey Hey borrowed a particular melody or structure.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: It tells us how one musician absorbed another record's possibility.
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: Like a Rolling Stone, produced by Tom Wilson in 1965,
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: lets a dramatic voice stretch across an electric band's forward motion.
- 5:38SPEAKER_00: The opening drum strike, the organ's lift,
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: and the recurring challenge keep the performance moving even
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: as its address becomes more severe.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: Listen to the exhilaration of that sound beside the uncertainty of the person being addressed.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: This is where my theory begins.
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: A popular song can carry character, accusation,
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: ambiguity and room for the listener to argue back.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: Pause for Bob Dylan's original Like a Rolling Stone and return for one last thought.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: We began with something apparently new and discovered a guitar fragment with a past.
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: Then, a shared musician, an admitted influence,
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: a difficult piece of reception history and a songwriter's own memory changed
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: the scale of the story.
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: None of that makes these six records the same.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: The pleasure is in hearing how fiercely each one remakes the possibilities available to it.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: Firestarter's shock survives the discovery of its ingredients.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: If anything, those ingredients make the shock more interesting.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: I'm Colin McGaddy.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening to Six Degrees of Dylan.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Until next time.
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