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1-19-26 Hour 3 - Adam Schefter/Steve Beuerlein/Keys to the Avs game, Sean McDermott fired · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: joined as we are every Monday by Adam Schefter of ESPN.
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  Speaker 3: Adam My first question, does John Harbaugh consider pulling out
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  Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels and just go straight to Buffalo?
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  Speaker 4: Now, no, that's not happening.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a highly attractive opening in Buffalo
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  Speaker 5: with Josh Allen being there.
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  Speaker 4: But John horbri has to deal with the Giants. He's
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  Speaker 4: not gonna back on that.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm curious. We all were kind of watching the game.
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  Speaker 3: You see it in you have this elation the Broncos win,
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  Speaker 3: They're going the AFC title game, and that quickly to
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  Speaker 3: get the news that bone Nicks is going to be
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  Speaker 3: out for the rest of the year. Is this something
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  Speaker 3: that you think with Sean Payton's experience, he's got a
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  Speaker 3: good record with backup quarterbacks. Can they survive this? Can
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  Speaker 3: they have their own little Nick Foles Philadelphia moment.
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  Speaker 5: I think they believe they can, and I think Sean
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  Speaker 5: Payton revels in this right now. This by the way,
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  Speaker 5: if well.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, something happened something, do your thing. He's got somebody
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  Speaker 6: of importance on the other line, so we'll let him
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  Speaker 6: do his thing. You know, somebody high in the Broncos
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  Speaker 6: food chain told me that Sean Payton is gleeful about
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  Speaker 6: the opportunity of coaching up Jared's did him to win
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  Speaker 6: this game?
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  Speaker 2: And he is treating this like the mad scientist that
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  Speaker 2: he is. The pressures off.
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  Speaker 7: Think about the pressure guys, all the pressures.
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  Speaker 2: On New England.
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  Speaker 3: Now well, and it's also a chance for him, Like
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  Speaker 3: this is where a co shows his worth, right, yes,
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  Speaker 3: Like this is where you can prove how great you
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  Speaker 3: are at what you do.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, And this is where Sean Payton's ego is actually
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  Speaker 6: a good thing because he believes coaching matters more than
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  Speaker 6: some He believes he can coach this quarterback into winning
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  Speaker 6: an AFC title game, even though he hasn't attempted to
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  Speaker 6: pass in two seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, at the same time, I mean, think about it,
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  Speaker 8: He's wanted to stit him around. He kept him around
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  Speaker 8: because he believes the guy can play hit him ten million, absolutely,
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  Speaker 8: and and so he's But he's also been talking about
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  Speaker 8: Jared Stidham since day one, even though Brett we know
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  Speaker 8: that that Bonix was his guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he likes Jared Stidham.
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  Speaker 8: So the idea is, look, now I can finally show
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  Speaker 8: what this guy can do too.
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  Speaker 2: I I like that attitude.
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  Speaker 3: Uh so it looks like Schefter got some some news
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  Speaker 3: for a waiting time to join us again?
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  Speaker 7: Open right now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's so good.
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  Speaker 5: So here's the deal. I started to tell you Sean Payton. Basically,
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  Speaker 5: he would become the first head coach ever to lead
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  Speaker 5: two franchises to Super Bowl wins. Never happened before. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 5: obviously you would think that losing Bonnicks, they take a hit,
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  Speaker 5: But you asked me how he.
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  Speaker 4: Feels about that, And I believe that if Sean Paynon.
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  Speaker 5: Were to become the first head coach to ever lead
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  Speaker 5: a franchise to two Super Bowl wins, it with a
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  Speaker 5: backup Oh hold on, he punches ticket to the can
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  Speaker 5: like he's ull of fame.
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  Speaker 4: Course, but to do it with a backup quarterback, like
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  Speaker 4: they should put him in this offseason.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, if somehow he gets it done, that's that would
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  Speaker 5: be incredible.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, Adam, do you do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think, Adam?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think? Well?
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  Speaker 6: Just you know, Adam, you had a nice feature where
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  Speaker 6: you sat down with Sean Payton earlier last week.
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  Speaker 2: You came into town, you interviewed him.
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  Speaker 6: You talked about the ultimate loan, giving up seventy points
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  Speaker 6: to Miami and how they rebounded from there. I wanted
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  Speaker 6: to ask you, what do players in that locker room
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  Speaker 6: think about Champagne Because a lot of people outside the
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  Speaker 6: locker room are like, oh, this brash, you know, obnoxious curmudgeon.
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  Speaker 2: But players love him.
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  Speaker 7: There's something that there's a connection there.
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  Speaker 2: What was your impression.
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  Speaker 5: I think he connects with his players, He understands players.
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  Speaker 5: He's great at building culture, like all those things that
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  Speaker 5: you're looking for. There's a reason that the Broncos once
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  Speaker 5: gave up first and second round draft picks to get him.
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  Speaker 5: And this, this is exactly why you want somebody like
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  Speaker 5: Chean Payton. Like on Saturday night, bon Nicks breaks his ankle,
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payn's already done his press conference. The word is
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  Speaker 5: out right like that that he's gonna be a Sean
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  Speaker 5: holds a second press conference and, by the way, sets
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  Speaker 5: the tone.
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  Speaker 4: For the entire week. Okay, we could have waited. We
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  Speaker 4: could have people want, hey, you're hearing about Boneck. Is
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  Speaker 4: it true? Is it true?
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  Speaker 8: Is it true?
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  Speaker 4: Like what's going on there?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: My god, They're doomed. They're doomed.
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  Speaker 5: Instead, he gets up there, he is as transparent as
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  Speaker 5: he could be.
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  Speaker 4: He then goes on to commend how.
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  Speaker 5: They're gonna play with Stitty and and they feel like
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  Speaker 5: they're in good hands. Look, that was one of those
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  Speaker 5: stories that when it comes down, like there have been
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  Speaker 5: a handful of stories that I have worked on over
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  Speaker 5: time that when when you post them, people like is
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  Speaker 5: this real?
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there'll be a darn schefter, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever it is. And so.
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  Speaker 5: There were people reaching out to me like is this
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  Speaker 5: did you pote? Yes, he's out, Yes, when did this happen?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: I saw some videos online of people like, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: you don't believe it.
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  Speaker 8: You don't believe it when it happens, right, Yeah, it looked.
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  Speaker 8: It looked incredibly benign to me. But again, this is
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  Speaker 8: the National Football League at him, and those were big
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  Speaker 8: men who are running fast, and so on. Hey, we're
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  Speaker 8: not going to get a chance to talk to you
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  Speaker 8: until after the AFC title game. Could you give us
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  Speaker 8: your idea of the feeling right now with Verbel and company,
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  Speaker 8: because they've got to feel pretty good about where they
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  Speaker 8: are getting ready to come on in here.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they've they've been unbelievable and he's gone in there
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  Speaker 5: and turned around that franchise.
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  Speaker 4: In a way.
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  Speaker 5: In a way, it's a different version of what Dever's done. Right,
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  Speaker 5: they go out and get the coach, Sean Payton. The
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  Speaker 5: Patriots gonna get Mike Rabel. They have a quarterback from
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  Speaker 5: that draft last Drake May third overall pick, probably have
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  Speaker 5: Bo Knicks.
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  Speaker 4: They had Bo Nicks. But it's similar, similar to what's
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  Speaker 4: going to transformations in both places.
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  Speaker 5: Look, the head coach and the quarterback to me, are
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  Speaker 5: the most important members of the organization. The owners right
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  Speaker 5: there too, I think, But I think that quarterback and
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  Speaker 5: head coach are the most important people. And New England
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  Speaker 5: got the head coaching quarterback right just like Denver Day.
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  Speaker 3: Adam Scheffer with us. All conversations with Adam or brought
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  Speaker 3: today at CCU dot org. The coaching carousel now with
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  Speaker 3: McDermott being fired, I mean, we were up to was
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  Speaker 3: it ten openings in this offseason?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we're ten, but we're down to eight because right.
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  Speaker 3: Just you're all right, Adam, But yes, it was ten total.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's down to eight.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know, off the top of your head, what's
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  Speaker 3: the most head coaching vacancies we've had in one offseason?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know.
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  Speaker 4: What's happened? Happened twenty twenty two. It happened. I'll give
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  Speaker 4: you the exact.
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  Speaker 5: Years, ten before the twenty twenty two season, seventy eight,
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  Speaker 5: ninety seven and two thousand and six seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, well he's a ton and you start to think,
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  Speaker 3: like you're looking for quality coaches, is there enough quality
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  Speaker 3: people that's right for these jobs? Obviously you've got to
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  Speaker 3: have to hire somebody, But it's crazy to think you
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  Speaker 3: got over a quarter of the league. A lot more
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  Speaker 3: in the quarter of the league they are looking for
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  Speaker 3: any white coaches this offseason about a third. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think owners pay attention to what other owners are doing.
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  Speaker 5: And when the Falcons fire Raheem Morris when he's in
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  Speaker 5: a four game one streak and the Ravens fire John
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  Speaker 5: Harball after eighteen years, then you could fire just about
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  Speaker 5: anybody at any time.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think the plumb job that's left?
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  Speaker 7: What is it right now?
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  Speaker 2: What's the one that most of it?
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  Speaker 5: If you go coach Josh Allen, that's a home run,
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  Speaker 5: no brainer like that.
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  Speaker 4: Like he's the best player in football, he is free.
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  Speaker 5: I am making an argument for Baltimore because it's been
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  Speaker 5: such a strong organization and have Lamar Jackson. But I
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  Speaker 5: think if you pulled available coaches and candidates, what would
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  Speaker 5: be the number one opening? I believe it would be
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  Speaker 5: Buffalo over Baltimore Right now?
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  Speaker 2: Can I make this argument?
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  Speaker 6: You watch the game like the rest of us, as
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  Speaker 6: much as we all admire Josh Allen, what he's done,
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  Speaker 6: what he represents, the kind of manny is.
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  Speaker 2: All that love it. I thought he got outplayed by
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  Speaker 2: boon Nicks. I thought bo Nix was the better quarterback
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Well he he.
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  Speaker 5: Turned over the football multiple and I said this on
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  Speaker 5: Get Up this Morning. Basically you can't. Yeah, everyone's gonna
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  Speaker 5: remember the Brandon Cooks McMillan play. Everybody that play's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be associated with that game the way that people say
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  Speaker 5: Dees caught it. Dees caught it right like they with
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  Speaker 5: the Cowboys playoff game where the Cowboys didn't get the call,
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  Speaker 5: And in this particular case, that is going to be
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  Speaker 5: the play if people remember, people should be talking about
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  Speaker 5: just as much as that Buffalo turned over the football
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  Speaker 5: five times. Can't go on the road turn over the
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  Speaker 5: football five times and think things are going to work out,
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  Speaker 5: because they're usually not.
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  Speaker 8: Adam on the other side of the ledger, the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 8: we know they're for real, and they obviously busted the
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  Speaker 8: forty nine ers of the mouth and the Rams had
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  Speaker 8: a tough one, but they come through again on the road. Now,
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  Speaker 8: this is the third game between those two teams, and
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  Speaker 8: both the first two games were different games, but they
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  Speaker 8: were very, very tight. What's the scuttle but around with
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  Speaker 8: your peeps about how they're looking at that particular football game.
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  Speaker 4: The Rams Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if you look at it, it's been a
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  Speaker 5: case where they've played four times the last two years.
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  Speaker 5: And here I'll give you the exact numbers because I
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  Speaker 5: got them together this morning. In the four games that
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  Speaker 5: they played, the last two seasons, the Rams have scored
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and nine points. The Seahawks have scored one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and seven points. Wow Brands have gained one five
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  Speaker 5: hundred and ninety nine yards in those four games.
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  Speaker 4: The Sea Ows have gained one five hundred.
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  Speaker 5: And eighty nine yards to two points and ten yards
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  Speaker 5: separate these teams over four meetings.
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  Speaker 3: That's realizing. Yeah, that's wild. Maybe you have an answered this,
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  Speaker 3: maybe you don't. Maybe you just don't know. Have you
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  Speaker 3: heard anything about the status of JK Dobbins, Because I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of Broncos fans feel like if he
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  Speaker 3: could return for the AFC Championship Game, it would help
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  Speaker 3: their offense tremendously.
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  Speaker 4: H's good thing. I get a chick on that.
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  Speaker 7: I show that right now at this very.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, we've got lets get ad him scheffer on the
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  Speaker 6: JK Dobbins watch, and if we get an answer within
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  Speaker 6: the rest of this segment, we got something bruling here.
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  Speaker 6: Because every Bronco fan I talked to, when's JK coming back?
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  Speaker 2: When's JK coming back? As if?
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  Speaker 6: And I want to ask a more general question, do
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  Speaker 6: you think he's the answer to the run game?
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  Speaker 2: Guys?
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  Speaker 7: Do you think by putting JK.
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  Speaker 6: Dobbins back there again coming off a major injury to
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  Speaker 6: his foot, that suddenly they're going to revive this run game.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's bigger than that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's VIC certainly wouldn't hurt because they couldn't run
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  Speaker 3: the football at all. It's funny beginning of that game
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  Speaker 3: if you remember Jalil fumbled but it was negated by
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  Speaker 3: the off side and they go, oh, that's his last
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  Speaker 3: carry of the game, because Sean's not going to do
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  Speaker 3: that again. And then RJ fumbled.
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  Speaker 6: You had some weird fleet flicker they got kicked to Bonnicks.
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  Speaker 8: Well, your quarterback, we can get some if your quarterback
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  Speaker 8: as you're leading rush of the past couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 8: man that you've been playing football, that's an issue, VIC.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's a big time Issueing again, I'm not
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  Speaker 8: gonna poo poo Jared Stenham because I think that Sean
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  Speaker 8: Paton can coach him up, but he's he's not the
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  Speaker 8: same guy. Bonenix's ability to run the football has been
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  Speaker 8: underused in my opinion, but it's been remarkably good.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see if Adam can get us a live
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  Speaker 3: update on whether JK is trending to try and play
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  Speaker 3: or not this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: A few texts. Let's see if any any anybody response.
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  Speaker 3: Got him in the meantime, Adam, you know the championship
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  Speaker 3: weekend now being set, you know it's featuring now with
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  Speaker 3: bow Knicks being out, three quarterbacks in which you know
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  Speaker 3: Stafford is sort of the only proven commodity. But it
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  Speaker 3: kind of feels like can Seattle win? Let's let's say
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  Speaker 3: this oblique injury for Sam Darnold is so bad that
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  Speaker 3: it lingers into this week is Seattle?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, well, what why would that happen? He played?
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  Speaker 3: He played well, I'm just saying it affects him, That's
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  Speaker 3: all I'm saying that, not that he's out that ship.
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  Speaker 2: Shoot him up, shoot him up.
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  Speaker 4: He took to he took his tour it all, shot
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  Speaker 4: took some indocin through seventeen passes, played fine like no issues.
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  Speaker 3: No, The thing is, does it even matter for Seattle
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  Speaker 3: because they're so good everywhere else running the football and
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  Speaker 3: playing defense.
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  Speaker 5: Well that that that's all that you want Sam to do?
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  Speaker 5: What Sam does? Manage the game, not turn it over.
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  Speaker 5: Be smart like that's how you're hoping CD Stroud would
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  Speaker 5: have played gayesterday that you rely on the defense and
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  Speaker 5: you don't make mistakes, they're going to cost your team
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  Speaker 5: the game. And that's what happened with the Houston Texas yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I got one quick one.
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  Speaker 6: I saw that on your feed that Eric b enemy
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  Speaker 6: is interviewing in Kansas City for their OC job.
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  Speaker 7: Where is Eric now? I lost track of him.
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  Speaker 5: He's with the Chicago Bears, A distant hey, coach and
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  Speaker 5: basically Vicky, you know you said interviewing. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: you interview in Kansas City. I think I think you
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  Speaker 5: just get high, like they don't need to the enemy
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  Speaker 5: they know. Yeah, okay, so that's just like we're going
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  Speaker 5: to go through the process here of interviewing him. But
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  Speaker 5: you do that with the idea that you think your brain,
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  Speaker 5: do you want to.
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  Speaker 8: Come do you want to come back? We want you back?
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  Speaker 8: Patrick needs you. Yeah, one of those deals.
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  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter joins us every week. Text Vic if you
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  Speaker 3: get an update on this. We want that Dobbins news.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah do that.
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  Speaker 7: No, let me tweet it. You just text me, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Adam always appreciate the time.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you so much, guys, thanks so much. I'm from
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  Speaker 5: this week with the game should be off by the way.
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  Speaker 5: One final thing, the Denver Broncos five and a half
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  Speaker 5: point underdogs.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy at all at all. Not surprised. Hey, the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots are owned four here in Denver and playoff games. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well this is different though it's a different Patriots team.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if it's a different Patriots. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: They're own four.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks Adam, appreciate it, see you, Buddy'd be good.
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  Speaker 3: So hopefully we get some sort of update on Dobbin's
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  Speaker 3: here soon, because I mean, I don't know how you
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  Speaker 3: guys feel about it. If Adam tweets out news that
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  Speaker 3: he's good to go this weekend, I would feel a
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  Speaker 3: lot better.
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  Speaker 6: I feel a lot better. I feel better, but not secure. Again,
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  Speaker 6: You're coming off a horrible injury. Anybody that knows that.
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  Speaker 6: Liz Frank it's not like you're one hundred percent. It's
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  Speaker 6: going to be choppy waters to begin with. And now
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  Speaker 6: you're asking a guy who hasn't played in two and
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  Speaker 6: a half months to to go full blown in an
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  Speaker 6: AFC title game behind a backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's asking a ton of here boys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, desperate times called for desperate measures and dobbins.
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  Speaker 3: If your foot's in half, but you can get me
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  Speaker 3: four yards of carry, I'll take it.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, big Val played Game six of the Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 8: Final with the foot that was in half.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, dang.
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  Speaker 6: Right, folks, stick around for the bottom of this hour
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: because we're going to talk to a backup quarterback who
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: shined during his backup quarterbacking day, Steve Berline, who played
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: here in Denver. He backed up Troy Aikman with the
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Played very very well.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: In fact, some people in Dallas still say that he
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: should have been the starter. At some point, we'll talk
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: to Steve burley Line at the bottom of the hour,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: get his thoughts on what it's gonna take for Jared
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: Stidham to prepare himself this week.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Won't be easy.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we'll talk to Steve borough Line in a
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: couple of minutes, Thank you to all fourteen hundred people
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: watching on Twitch right now. By the way, if you guys,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I've been looking at fourteen hundred people. Thank you guys
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: for tuning in. As always, Steve burd Line joins us
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: in just a bit stick gram.
• 17:18
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna need everybody to calm down a little bit.
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: Calm down, I say, I think it's says it's a Victos.
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: Hey man, it's an owen. Patriots are owing four all
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: time in Denver in the postseason.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: And I was there for some of those games, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: I said, well, it's not the same Patriots team. And
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: I people are like, well, you know, if there's no Belichick,
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: there's no braidis no guff hit.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: What I'm trying to tell you is that I'm not
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: saying they're better than the Belichick and the Brady Patriots.
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: But what I'm saying is they're totally different, totally different.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: So in fact, there is there any personnel.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Their defense is better than I thought.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Where's your camera? Oh? Sorry? Their defense is much better
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: than I thought. Guys. That's the one thing.
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: It's really, really, really good and By the way, I'm
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: gonna give credit to the Houston Texans in the second
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: half of that game yesterday.
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: I'm not.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Let me finish your thought.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: I could have had Steve Nelson playing quarterback yesterday with
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: the same result.
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying the Houston defense yesterday played pretty damn
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: well in that second half. Okay, But the point is
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: that it's just a totally different team. There's not anybody
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: on that team that has any recollection whatsoever the last
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: time the Patriots lost in the postseason here in Denver.
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: So that's what I meant by that. It's a totally
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: different team. And they're unbeaten on the road this year.
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: So maybe you say, well, are they doing to win
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: a game in Denver? Not necessarily? Are they due to,
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: you know, finally get defeated on the road this year?
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: Not necessarily. I mean, you got to play it out, baby,
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: play it out.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: If I'm New England and I'm game planning for the
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Broncos this week, two things that make me smile. Number one,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: hey man. In the first half, the Broncos struggled against
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: the run. They got it together, they got it together,
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: but they struggled. The Ew Englands got a one two
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: punch in their backfield they can utilize, all right, So
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: I'd be running. They're already run heavy. I'd be run heavy,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: play action heavy. That's what New England's gonna do.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: And number two, the Broncos cannot run the ball.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: I would sell out and cover two and make them
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: run the ball.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: I would sell. If you're their defensive coordinator right there,
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: what do you do against the Broncos.
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: I'm not worried about the run.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: Are you worried about Studham's army? I don't know that
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: you have a whole ton of wary period. I know
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: that sounds crazy. I know it does, because you're talking
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: about a team with a lot of prideful guys. But
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: you have an offense right now that's in tough shape.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Every rational thought about who should win this this game.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Every rational person would look at the New England patrons
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: say they have every advantage right now. But there's something
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: about Sean Payton, the mad scientist, having a backup quarterback
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: and when he was in New Orleans. Take a look
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: at his stats with backup quarterbacks in New Orleans. Not
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: only did he thrive.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: He loved it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: He proved people wrong all the time. With this backup,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: there's something about it that excites me.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Guys.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: I don't know what we're gonna see. I don't know
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: what he's gonna do, but I can't wait to find out.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I just I.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Have faith that Sean Payton can cook something up to
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: make a viable offense. I don't think the offense is
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: gonna be great, but here's my fear. New England put
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: up twenty eight on Houston's defense. Houston has a very
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: good defense. They put up twenty one in the first half. Now,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: they were aided by four turnovers from CJ. Stroud, which helps,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and if you that maybe it becomes a little bit easier.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I've been not that I haven't believed in them, but
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I've been skeptical about the Patriots all year just because
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the Patriots had they didn't play anybody. They had three
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: games this regular season against playoff teams, and I think
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: there were one and two in those games. They lost
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh once and then they went one on one
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: against Buffalo. I can't doubt it anymore. Like they're really
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: good and really solid everywhere. But what feels like the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: overwhelming theme to this postseason if you don't make mistakes,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have a massive advantage against your opponent because
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: people are turning the ball over like crazy, and maybe
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: that's a byproduct. Remember we were talking about this is
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: a weird playoff run because there's not a lot of
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: great quarterbacks or what we think of traditionally great quarterbacks,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: like maybe Drake May and bow Nicks should be in
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: that discussion. I don't know, But as far as your
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Lamar's and Burrows and Mahomes, those guys weren't there. And
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: guess what, it's been a turnover fest by these weeks.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: It's a new age man. The class at twenty four
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: came this close to having three quarterbacks.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: In conference championship games. Yeah, think about that. Yep.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: So this romance we have with the Lamars, the Josh's,
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: the Patrick Mahomes, I get it. I understand it, the
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Joe Burrows, there's a new class and these kids are
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: knocking on the door saying, ve can ball too, let's go,
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: And the game has changed for those guys. They're surrounded
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: by a much deeper team.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, Like that's what this entire thing has felt like.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: It's is it team or is it quarterback that you're
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: gonna trust more. And I think in every instance, the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: better team has come out on top the team Josh
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: we saw it, Moje Josh Allen and the Bills. Had
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: they not gone mental with all the turnovers that they
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: threw it at Denver, they probably win that game going away.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: It felt that way because but.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: I say, like, if I see that, I feel like
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: if I say that, though I get I get jumped
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: up here. Why Here's because they were the better football
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: team overall. Here's why I mean in terms of chuck
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: plays in first downs and efficiency and everything.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: If they turned the ball over, if the Bills ended
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: up winning in overtime, there is a huge discussion to
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: be had of what the hell did you do to
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: allow that to happen? Because they gave you every opportunity
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: put that game away. They gave you, They gifted the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: field goal at the end of the half. They fumble
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: up their own seventeen yard line to start the second half,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: and you couldn't punch it into the end zone. You
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: had to settle for a field goal. Again. You had
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: forty seven total yards of offense until two and a half.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: Would be the story of the game.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: That's what it was.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: That would have been the story.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: The ease in.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Which Buffalo came back to tie that game was. I mean,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that was pretty clear. It didn't feel like it were
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: hard to get there.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: They didn't punt, And now here we are. We have
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: a week to prepare, less than a week for the
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: AFC Title Game and a backup quarterback, and I thought
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: it would be great to talk to a guy who
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: has that experience, who has taken all for star quarterbacks
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: and shined in that position. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: former Bronco, former Cowboy, former nfler, former domer Steve Berlang.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: What's up, Steve Big? What do you say, buddy? How
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: you been I'm doing pretty well.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: We thought we'd get you on the air because I
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: want to know if you were in Jared'stidhams shoes right now, Steve,
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: this guy has an attempt at a regular season passing
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: two years. What's going through his mind as he approaches
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: the AFC Title Game.
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: Well, if he's if he's a true competitor and a
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: true you know, professional football player, this is the opportunity
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: he's been waiting for, you know, his whole career. And
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: I remember, now I started over one hundred games in
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: the NFL, he over started. He's only started four, So
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: there's a little a little different situation there. But you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: when I was young and had my opportunity to play
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: with the Raiders early in my career and then with
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: the Cowboys, you know, in the early nineties, very similar,
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: Still trying to prove myself, still waiting for that perfect opportunity.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: And I can definitely tell uh and relate to what
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: he's going through. Obviously, you know, making his first starting
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: to or whatever you said, however long it's been in
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: the AFC Championship game is a little different animal. But
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: what an incredible opportunity. And I'm sure that you know
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: he himself and the people that are around him are
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: building it up to be this. This is what you've
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: been waiting for. This is your opportunity. You know, this
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: is not a time to be, you know, sitting there
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: worried about you know, the stress and the magnitude and
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: the the overall significance of this game. It is your
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: opportunity to show that you belong and to step up
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: for your teammates and to really take advantage of this opportunity. So, uh,
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: that's the way he's got to spin it if he's
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: not already doing it that way. And I'm really excited
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: for him. You know, who knows how it's going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: turn out. I think a lot of people, including myself
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: would be very excited or very surprised if it goes
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: really well. But if he goes out there and plays
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: a clean game and just protects the football and doesn't,
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: you know, really do the things that quarterbacks can do
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: to lose ball games. As we saw yesterday, that happened
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: a lot of times and both of the games yesterday.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: So but if he just avoids those big mistakes, because
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: that defense is going to keep the game close, we
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: all know that they'll have a chance to win it
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: if he just can just handle that one part of it,
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: don't make the big mistakes, and then hopefully, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: he gets a chance to make a player or two
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: and he'll step up and take those opportunities.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Steve Berlin with us on the Ramas Law Hotline, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: was going to ask you about exactly that. What's the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Balancinis defined between. Look, you don't want to go out
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: there and make mistakes, but you also don't want to
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: play scared. How do you battle that?
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: Well, it's a fine line. It's a very fine line.
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: It's situational football. You hear people talking about it all
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: the time, and a lot of times it's not really uh,
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: explain what you mean by that. It's if you're backed
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: up in your own end zone and uh, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: you're looking at third and long, it's it's not time
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: to try to make the great throw. It's time to uh.
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: If you if the coach is showing confidence in you
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: to throw a pass in that situation, you know, the
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: only thing you can't do is take a sack for
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: a safety or you know, a negative play that way
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: and fumble the ball. Uh. And you can't throw an interception.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: You can't try to force it in there. So if
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: he calls a pass, your only job is to try
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: to give your team a few more yards a field
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: position game, you know, get it, get it away from
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: the goal line, and and just live to see another day.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: But you got to know that, you got to think
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: about that. You get to say, I cannot you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: force the football in this situation. Now, if it's you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: if it's a first first down situation kind of the
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: same thing. First down, the coach has given you a
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: chance to take a shot at it, like maybe you're
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: in the ground the forty yard line and uh, things
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: are going well for he calls a play action on
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: first down because you want try to take a shot
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: at the end zone. Well, if it's there, you take
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: the shot. But if it's not there, take the checkdown
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: and you got second five and instead of trying to
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: force the football and come away with an interception. Those
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: are situations where he's going to have to really understand
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: why the play is being called, what is the mentality
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: he needs to have, And it's very difficult a lot
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: of times. You know, obviously, if the game's on the line,
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: if you're at the end of the game and you've
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: got to make plays, that changes everything. But during the
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: course the normal flow of the game, you just have
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: to consciously understand what does this situation call for. Is
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: this a situation where I can take a chance, or
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: is this a situation where I got to be smart
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: and protect the football.
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: No matter what, you know, I think they're gonna have
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: to matriculate done the field. Steven, Here's why the Broncos
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: running game has not been good all year long, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: obviously yesterday it wasn't, or two days ago it wasn't either.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Boonix was the leading rusher on that team.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: And so if you're a backup quarterback coming in, and
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: I believe Sean Payton's ability to coach this guy up.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: He loves him, obviously wanted to keep him around, paid
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: him big bucks to be the backup quarterback. I mean,
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: what do you do if you're a quarterback and you
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: can't rely on a running game that's going to get
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: you not even you know, a hundred yards in a game.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: Well, it's the same thing, really, you know, I guarantee
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: you that Sean Payton is putting this on the offensive
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: line and the running backs and telling them, hey, this
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: is not going to happen if we can't run the football.
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: And we saw how how difficult a time Houston had
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: running the football against New England yesterday. They're playing really
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: well on that side of the ball. New England is.
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: But if they're not able to at least sustain and
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: generate some type of a running game, then they're that's
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: asking too much out of out of Stidham in this situation.
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: You know, again, he may surprise he could step up
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: and have one of those games that people be talking
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: about forever, you know, but generally speaking that that doesn't happen,
• 29:50
  Speaker 9: and that's not going to be what Sean Payton's expecting.
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: He's going to put it on the offensive line and
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: those running backs tied end to get that running game
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: going and show some life and at least be able
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: to help them play that field position game. It's so
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: important in these games. You know, where you get a
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: couple of first downs, you gotta you gotta be able
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: to produce on the short yardage and goal line situations
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: when you have those opportunities, and that's going to be
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: where the focus is. And you know, if they're not
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: able to run the ball, then Stidham is going to
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: have to have a game of his life if they're
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: going to have a chance to win this ball game.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: Steve Berline, the final question I have for you, and frankly,
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: the main reason I decided.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: To give you a call for There we go, Here
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: we go, Here we Go.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame not being in the college the greatest criminal
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: act in the history of organized athletics, yes or no?
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: Uh, well, you know that is a very bold proclamation.
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: There Uh, can you guys hear me? All right? All right? Uh?
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: The greatest. Yeah, I'm not I'm sure I can even
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: repeat how you phrased that, but I would I would say,
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: as a no Notre Dame, a lum supporter fan, everything else,
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: I would say it has to rank right up there
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: with the absolute travesties, the most significant travesties in the history.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: I mean, you can't, there's no logical argument. Uh. But
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: you could see it coming though, Vic, I mean we
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: all saw it coming when when Alabama got bunked a
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: head of Notre Dame the week before, it was like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: how could you do that?
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: In the history of the world, Steed, not your sports history.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: This will be talked about in centuries like.
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: Sparta right right, pretty much it'll be It'll be a
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: p us history.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Hey, Steve.
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: I'll say this though, this morning Vic's got his little
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: fighting irishrued on in protest. Ever since, ever since the
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: field was announced for the playoff and and obviously the
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: Irish didn't get in, He's worn a piece of Irish
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: gear every single day and protest. And I told him
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: this morning, I said, Dude, the natties tonight you gotta
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: give up the ghost. He said, I give it up.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: I know what that That absolutely is shocking to me.
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: I find that it's very hard to believe that Vick
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: would do something like that, Right, Steve, you're here, I'm
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: carrying around my playing like a champion key Chase.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Exactly right, Thanks buddy, appreciate the insight, Thanks Steve.
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: All right, guy, Hey, anytime, I'll jump on any time
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: with you guys. Look forward to the next time.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Thanks Steve. Berline joins us on the ramost Law hot
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  Speaker 8: He raised a very good point. He said, look, when
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  Speaker 8: but he'd gotten some time with the Raiders before that,
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  Speaker 8: that's where he started his career. But he said, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I'm coming in as a backup quarterback and winning games
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  Speaker 8: in one night. He goes, but I had, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I started over one hundred games in my career.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you got?
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you got that experience. So if you're needed in
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: that situation, like he was even here in Denver, VIC
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  Speaker 8: in the in the early two thousands, right, you're coming
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  Speaker 8: in with that, with that experience behind you. This guy
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  Speaker 8: doesn't have a ton and so you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 8: draw some stuff up for him.
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  Speaker 2: You gonna coach incredibly creative.
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  Speaker 6: It's such a good point. People are gonna bring up
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  Speaker 6: Nick Foles, Well, Nick Foles started a couple of games
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  Speaker 6: before he got to the playoffs. You're going to bring
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  Speaker 6: up Jeff Hostetler, Well, he got to start a regular
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: season game before the playoffs.
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  Speaker 7: These are quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 6: I get it, backups who shined, but they had a runway.
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  Speaker 7: This guy doesn't have one. It doesn't exist. It's showtime
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  Speaker 7: on Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: His first start in two years is the ANFC title game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, I have some breaking news. Here's
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• 33:39
  Speaker 3: surprised that Bills fired their head coach after a playoff loss.
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  Speaker 3: Wade Phillips like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I love them.
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  Speaker 3: Magic's always like the Los Angeles Lakers lost the basketball
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  Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 8: And it's funny because Wade he wasn't fired by the
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  Speaker 8: Bills after he lost a playoff game, but he got
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  Speaker 8: fired after he won eight and eight the year after
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  Speaker 8: the playoff game. Funny stuff man.
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  Speaker 8: It's hard to believe the Avs have lost three out
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  Speaker 8: A team that's thirty three, five and eight and they've
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  Speaker 8: But they're coming off getting stomped on Friday night against
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  Speaker 2: Brett nothing good about that game? He said, I hated
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  Speaker 8: I don't even want to talk about the Caps and
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  Speaker 8: their injury problems right now and their goals four and
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  Speaker 8: more double, you know, in between goals for and goals against.
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  Speaker 8: Offensively, the Avs weren't very they weren't bad against the Predators.
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  Speaker 8: But defensively they were not good at all.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing about that was good. Defend your own zone.
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• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I'm saying because I'm standing up for Buffalo, damnit.
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  Speaker 4: I'm standing up for us.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Stood up for Buffalo, and then he got fired. He's
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  Speaker 3: out the door this morning. I'm standing up for Buffalo. Dammit. Well,
• 36:52
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  Speaker 6: You know, what is it fair to say if his
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: quarterback doesn't turn the ball over, he's still the coach
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  Speaker 6: of the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I also think that that that just wasn't
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  Speaker 3: working with him there. It just wasn't working. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there was nine years and they can't figure out how
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  Speaker 3: to advance.
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  Speaker 8: But Vick is completely correct. They if they call that
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  Speaker 8: a catch. I mean, let's say it was a catch,
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: the Bills kick a field goal, win at the very
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: worst for them, right, Yeah, And he still's got his
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: job back in Buffalo, getting ready to go on the
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: road of the Patriot.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, but you know how I knew he was on.
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  Speaker 6: He knew it was going to go down, just by
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: the way he reacted after the game, I could tell.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: And let's quickly one more time, and this is the
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: last time we'll talk about it, because it's onto New England.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Eight plays prior to that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: Controversial interception, what happened eight plays prior to that that
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: should have ended the game.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Holding in the end zone should have ended the games.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: It's correct on the two controversial pis on to Corland Sutton,
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: that was iffy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: That was an if EPI call.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: But what happened on the very same play Joey Bosa
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: and he hit bo Nicks about eighty seconds after the
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: ball was thrown. It would have been fifteen yards regardless,
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: so that he rases that. The next PI, the one
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: to Marvin Mims, that was a PI in every country
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: in the world, every galaxy.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, what's the problem that it's.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: It's I'm not even kidding the frustration of Nick's being
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: lost immediately after the game, and how much of it
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: that dampened what was a really cool moment. I found
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: myself getting more and more upset with every one of
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: these yahoos in Buffalo trying to tell me about the refs,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, do you not take any inventory on
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: what happened in a football game? Or is it just
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the last thing that you saw, is the worst thing
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that you saw? Is that all that matters?
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: It's but it's what happens when hope is fleeting. What happens.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: Everything happens to all of us, happens to me. You
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: start to grasp at things like that because another op
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: opportunity lost. You said it best, What an opportunity for
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: the Bills. No Patrick Mahomes, no Joe Burrow, no Lamar Jackson.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: It is Josh Allen against the world in this playoff run.
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  Speaker 6: What an opportunity lost it?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: You don't think it away.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: You don't think that's a huge reason for it too.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: By the way, like think about this, there's two options
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: of what Buffalo fans can choose, and here's what most
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: of them are doing this morning, Boo rafts, bad call,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: no interceptions, fifty yards on an overtime drive. That's what
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the quarterback, quarterback. This is why Moses, because the alternative
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: is this, the guy that they've been propping up is
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: the best player in the league, and that he's been
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: held back by his team, and all that different stuff
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: all flies out the window because you would have to
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: admit Josh Allen just wasn't good enough, and he was.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: He's in why you lost.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: Here's the bitter truth.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: And I will look into this camera and I challenge
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: any Buffalo fan to counter this argument. Josh Allen Rainy
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: MVP of the league, The great Josh Allen, as much
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: as we all love him, well out played by second.
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  Speaker 2: Year quarterback Bonnix.
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  Speaker 3: No question.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't turn it over as much as Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 6: He made the critical throws when you needed to. Unlike
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen, he didn't have the running game that benefited
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen. He won the game for his team. He
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: outplayed Josh Allen. That's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: It is the truth. I'll tell you what's interesting too, How.
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  Speaker 8: Do you guys, how do you guys feel about trusting
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: the betting public and the odds makers.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Yeah?
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, Well the Broncos opened right away is a
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: one and a half point favorite, right, no, over the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Immediately after the game.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, then the word comes down that b Nicks is
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: going to have surgery and he's gone, yeah, and all
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: the money comes into the Patriots all. So, right now,
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: it's at five and a half. Okay, it's five and
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: Patriots minus five and a half. If that holds, VIC
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: New England will be the largest road favorite in a
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: conference championship game since the merger.
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  Speaker 2: In seventy Well you can understand why.
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  Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I'm just saying, but do you I mean,
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  Speaker 8: does that give you any sort of course?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Of course, it gives me.
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: You're the one who said you were comfortably what do
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: you I am?
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: My counter, well, a lot of this I'm doing just
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: to reassure myself. My counter to that argument is I
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: think the Broncos have the perfect professor in place to
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: fix up a quarterback in one week.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: You gotta overdogs.
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: What's the proper word, uncharted waters?
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: We are in uncharted waters never.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: In the history of the National Football League.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Stop, you just said both I said uncharted. You said
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: first uncharted, Then you said uncharted.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: We are in uncharted waters.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Never in the history of the league has a quarterback
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: entered the AFC or any championship game having made his
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: first start in two years, having made his first playoff start.
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: Ever, does this never happened?
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: Here's also a correct Here's also a correct summation from
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: the four three, one five. Say what you will about
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: Josh Allen and he was again that one fumble he had.
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: I thought he threw it backwards. I'm like, I think
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: he just threw that ball backwards. But that was a
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: Benito hit.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Good? Did they put up over four.
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: Hundred and fifty yards of offense right right? I mean
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: against the defense that's supposed to be your bread and butter.
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: Great, somebody mentioned it.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: He turned the ball over.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: It's the most and if he doesn't that a quarterback
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: can be great. I'm just saying, dude, you got some
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: things to worry about it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: He under threw Shakir, which could have been a touchdown.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: He overthrew knknocks yep.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: How about that hooking ladder they pulled off?
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: I know, Hey, how about the play of the game
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: that we're not talking about that.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: We haven't talked about all day.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: That I wrote down in my notes, second biggest defensive
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: play of the game. They had all the momentum in
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: the world. Boys, they were up seven to three. The
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: Broncos had just gone three and out. It looked like
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: the Broncos had not in this day. Sutton dropped the pass,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: Bills get the ball back, Alan goes for twenty six yards,
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: escapes the pocket.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: What happened on the very next play.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: Alex singled in Rocks, James Cook forces a fumble.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Rock changed the momentum of the game.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Yep, I just you know what it's what's really a
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: bummer in all of this is that Bonnicks did play better.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: And you can throw whatever stat you want to at me, Like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: the main thing is bon Nicks didn't cost his team.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: He had one mistake the pass that went right into
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: the defensive alignment's hands, which hell of a play by him,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: by the way, you have the hands to actually make
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: that pick. But he made the plays that were necessary,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: and more importantly, didn't make the mistakes that were killers.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: And god what I love to see him try and
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: do that again this weekend. But now it's going to
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: turn into Look, being an underdog at home to go
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: to the super Bowl is pretty good motivation. And I
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: think everybody understands why when you don't have your starting quarterback,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: that thing's gonna flip. I will maintain this though. I
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: still believe that the way the Broncos are put together,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: this is survivable. And it'd be different if this is
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: week seven motion it's two games. Can you do it
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: for two games? I don't need a three month stretch
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: of good football. I need two weeks. That's it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: You're totally right, though, Brett survivable. But my question is
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: for how long, well and without.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: A running game, how long?
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. You can't survive. It's been a season
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: of survival. And for those of you, oh, the Broncos
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: are lucky, the bronc Do you not read the script?
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: They've done this all year. This is who they are,
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: this is what they do. I'm so tired of hearing
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: that this is what they do.
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  Speaker 10: That crazy touchdown pass that Caleb Williams had late in
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: the game where he's scrambling backwards, he has like five
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: defenders in his face.
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: It was a fifty one yard pass for fourteen yards exactly.
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• 45:34
  Speaker 10: as a fourteen yard pass.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: In the red zone.
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: But according to next Gen stats, Caleb Williams was twenty
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: six and a half yards behind the line of scrimmage,
• 45:44
  Speaker 10: and as you said, he threw it fifty one point
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: two up yard back foot in the air to get
• 45:51
  Speaker 10: a fourteen yard touchdown pass to a wide open player.
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  Speaker 8: And then how house way, then he threw a pick
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