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Ep. 79 : AL Central Preview With Keelin Billue & Jordan White · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello in Welcome everybody to episode seventy nine of Cards
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  Speaker 1: and Categories. I'm Mike cool Art from Rasball, and I
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  Speaker 1: am joined by two very special guests here. I've got
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  Speaker 1: Jordan White, formerly from Picture List and of rasball, and
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  Speaker 1: also Kielan Blow from Well formerly of rasball, our former
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  Speaker 1: ambulance chaser friend of rasball. Now, so this is a
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  Speaker 1: little tough with a three person panel, but Jordan, I
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  Speaker 1: will pass it over to you to see how you
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  Speaker 1: are doing as we're recording here on February twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, feeling pretty great. Pictures and catchers have reported in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of places, which is exciting. That's fantastic. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really excited for that. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: ready for things to get going and post super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: and everything like that.
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  Speaker 1: So feeling good, awesome? And where can people find you
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  Speaker 1: on socials if they want to reach you.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to find me, I'm on Blue Sky.
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  Speaker 2: You can find me there at bunt singles dot, bsky
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  Speaker 2: dot social That's mostly where I'm at these days. Haven't
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  Speaker 2: really been on the old Twitter machine in a few
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  Speaker 2: months here, so if you want to find me, find
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  Speaker 2: me there.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent Kielan, How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Pretty good?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty swell, I guess for people who well, no one
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  Speaker 4: will see this on camera, but I'm dressed in a
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  Speaker 4: monochromatic outfit with a wall that's the same color behind me,
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  Speaker 4: so you could say I'm great.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, you're feeling good. Where can people find you?
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  Speaker 1: On socials?
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  Speaker 4: You can find me on Blue Sky at Kielan twelve
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  Speaker 4: foot that's k E E l I N one two
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  Speaker 4: ft at Blue Sky Social or whatever it is. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not on Twitter anymore. Rip was a good ride, well elasted.
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  Speaker 1: And while you weren't banned.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot out about that, can't.
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  Speaker 4: I still don't know why, but I think it was
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  Speaker 4: the guillotine chiff, That's all I can figure out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not sure.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're a shift pronouncer, not a not a gift
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, Well might this is gonna put a
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  Speaker 2: strain on our friendship?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really we might have to dedicate the
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  Speaker 1: entire pod to this then, like, yeah, let's let's parse
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  Speaker 1: it out. But actually, I mean, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that would be more entertaining than discussing the Ale Central
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  Speaker 1: or not. That is going to be our preview here today,
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  Speaker 1: especially with Kilan. It'll be great bringing you in for
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  Speaker 1: the White Sox and Jordan, your Midwest adjacent so you
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  Speaker 1: understand all the vibes of the Ale Central slash being
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  Speaker 1: a Brewers fan. They used to be in the Ale
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  Speaker 1: Central back in what the nineties or whatever, so they
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  Speaker 1: know what's what it's all about. And it's the most
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  Speaker 1: hilarious division I think of the entire Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 1: So it'll be great to get into some of our
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  Speaker 1: buys and sells and picks to click, because even though
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  Speaker 1: the teams are terrible, lots of great fantasy opportunities, especially
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  Speaker 1: for deep leaguers and people of my realm right in
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  Speaker 1: the waiver wires, because I think people will overlook a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these players. But before we do that, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into some notes right off the bat. We've actually
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  Speaker 1: got some great X Ale Central news in terms of
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  Speaker 1: two of my all time favorites ones obviously my all
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  Speaker 1: time favorite because I referred to him as our Lord
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  Speaker 1: and Savior more than once in my post last year.
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  Speaker 1: That is Tommy fam signing with the Pittsburgh Pirates for
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  Speaker 1: one year. Should walk into another starting job leading off
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  Speaker 1: there for the Pirates and then the other one we
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  Speaker 1: have and this has turned into a starting job now
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  Speaker 1: that we've learned that Anthony Rendon is giving up on
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  Speaker 1: baseball for this year. Jan Mancatta is going to be
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  Speaker 1: playing third base for the Angels also signed there within
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  Speaker 1: the past week. So Killey and I'm going to pass
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  Speaker 1: this to you first, because these are two x socks
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  Speaker 1: that you've seen plenty of in person. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: interest in either of them going into the fantasy season
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're asking me if I have interest in either
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  Speaker 3: of those two.
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  Speaker 4: I love Tommy fam I was really bummed when he left,
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  Speaker 4: but also not surprise. I mean, I guess the White
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  Speaker 4: Sox are a great kind of like get out of
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  Speaker 4: career jill opportunity, and he did do that, so I'm
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  Speaker 4: kind of glad he's, you know, not with an.
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  Speaker 3: Ale Central team.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I would absolutely be interested in picking him up,
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  Speaker 4: I'd say, Mankata, No, that's just been too much every season.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, last season, I noticed it's the
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  Speaker 4: same conversation every season with oh, yeah, he's gonna be good,
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  Speaker 4: and he does sometime like I think it's about the
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  Speaker 4: first three months. He may start to like do well
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  Speaker 4: and then he ended up the league gets injured, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe that'll change. I personally don't have the
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  Speaker 4: stomach for it this time around.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell you understand, Jordan, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think about these two players in Wankata and FAM?
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  Speaker 2: So with FAM, it's interesting. I feel like this is
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  Speaker 2: still the case obviously because he signed a one year deal.
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  Speaker 2: I read somewhere and this may be wrong, please do
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  Speaker 2: not quote me on this, but I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: read somewhere that the Pirates haven't signed anyone who's a
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  Speaker 2: free agent to longer than a one year deal since
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  Speaker 2: like twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: I can believe that, yeah, or.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that, Like it was something adjacent to that
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  Speaker 2: that they haven't really signed. And it's weird that they're
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  Speaker 2: not really trying harder with someone like Paul Skan's another
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  Speaker 2: young guy like Jared Jones and then Bubba Chandler coming up.
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  Speaker 2: They have three like really elite looking starting pitchers, so
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  Speaker 2: like a solid base for a rotation, and it feels
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  Speaker 2: like they're not really trying anywhere else, which is unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: That said, Tummycam, I mean, I would be happy with
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  Speaker 2: him as a signing if I was a Pirates fan.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he's just a solid contributor wherever he
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  Speaker 2: ends up. From a vibe standpoint, he brings like a
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  Speaker 2: very specific type attitude to a team, which I actually
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  Speaker 2: personally enjoy. So I like him a lot as far
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  Speaker 2: as you want Mankata. I mean, it makes a lot
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  Speaker 2: more sense that the Angels signed him considering what we
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  Speaker 2: now know about Anthony Rendon and that he's having hip surgery.
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  Speaker 2: So it's curious that they would sign someone else so
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  Speaker 2: injury prone seemingly to replace someone who is so injury
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  Speaker 2: prone himself and Rendon. And I think that it's a
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  Speaker 2: decent park at the very least for hitters, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: not completely opposed to going after Mancata, but I would
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  Speaker 2: approach it with an appropriate amount of caution just based
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  Speaker 2: on his history as well. So yeah, that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: feel about both those guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think both of them are going super
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  Speaker 1: late in drafts. But yeah, I love fam as like
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  Speaker 1: somebody slot in as your last outfielder. And Moncatta, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll take a few shots here and there
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  Speaker 1: and take a look at the cheap price just because
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  Speaker 1: if it clicks. Like you said, I do like that
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  Speaker 1: Park usually plays warm to begin the season, but certainly
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  Speaker 1: no need to invest heavily in either of those players.
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  Speaker 1: Next piece of news we have is future Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Famer Clayton Kershaw resigning with the Dodgers. So this one,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is a good one to bring you
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  Speaker 1: in for Kielan as doctor of rasball for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years and making sure that we've been tracking these injuries,
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  Speaker 1: especially with Kershaw. He's been so banged up over the
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  Speaker 1: past couple of years, between the shoulder, the back, he
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  Speaker 1: was dealing with a bone spur. I believe in his
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  Speaker 1: in his foot during the playoffs. Do you think that
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  Speaker 1: there is potential for Kershaw to be relevant in any
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  Speaker 1: fantasy leagues this year or like, do you think he
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  Speaker 1: even gets back to be relevant?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I took I took this to be a symbolic thing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean it would be cool if he.
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  Speaker 4: Did, I guess for people who are big, big fans,
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't. I don't really see it, just
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  Speaker 4: because it does seem like honestly got to the point
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  Speaker 4: last year with ambulance Chasers where it was kind of like, oh, yep,
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  Speaker 4: he's still injured. I kind of stopped even really writing
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  Speaker 4: about him because it was just there. So yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I am mostly in camp. Never say never, but I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be me say that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan, So it does look like most of the projections, Keeling,
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  Speaker 1: you'll probably take the under on these are putting him
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  Speaker 1: around like seventy to seventy five innings. What do you think, Jordan?
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  Speaker 1: Is that too high? Too low? Just right?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's probably just right. Personally. I think the
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  Speaker 2: way that the Dodters have constructed the roster like they've
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  Speaker 2: gotten obviously a ton of starting pitching talent, all with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of question marks help wise and volume wise.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's absurd to think that Kersha over
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  Speaker 2: the course of the season is going to hit like
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  Speaker 2: seventy to eighty innings at all. And I feel like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of their starting pitching talent is pretty much
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  Speaker 2: guessed in terms of the volume that they're going to get. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Rookie Sasaki with his dips and veilo and everything like that,
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  Speaker 2: before he came Stateside, there was concerns about his arm
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  Speaker 2: and everything like that, Yashnoba Yamamoto last year didn't pitch
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  Speaker 2: full season. Blake Snell has had varied innings over the
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  Speaker 2: course of his career, pitching what like one pint thirty
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  Speaker 2: last year after pitching one hundred and eighty the season before.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like a hedge for the most part. But also,
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  Speaker 2: like with Kershaw, he's a Dodger legend. It feels pretty
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  Speaker 2: much like they're going to have a handshake agreement with
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  Speaker 2: him that he can come back as much as he wants,
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  Speaker 2: for as long as he wants, until he finally decides
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  Speaker 2: that he wants to hang it up. And honestly, I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of fine with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's fair that, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you're in a league where you can stash him on
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  Speaker 1: the IL. I don't think it's a bad move because
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  Speaker 1: more time coming off of that back and shoulder injury
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  Speaker 1: that at this point it seems that he's mostly rehaving
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  Speaker 1: that toe injury, which is a lot less concerning from
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  Speaker 1: a bonees burn perspective. All right, next move, we have
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  Speaker 1: ex Dodger, but we're going back to Orange County here.
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  Speaker 1: Kenley Jansen signing a one year, ten million dollar deal
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  Speaker 1: with the Angels to presumably close. I think that they
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  Speaker 1: are going to push Ben Joyce down the depth chart here.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll say, as somebody who had a share of
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  Speaker 1: him in my first pitch Arizona fifty round draft and
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  Speaker 1: hold league, this is a great landing spot for Jansen,
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  Speaker 1: partly because, like, the Angels are just competitive enough where
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in the number of saves they can generate.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be able to trade him at
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  Speaker 1: the deadline, even though they'll try, and Jansen, I think
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  Speaker 1: at this point is kind of chasing just Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame numbers to try to pad those stats a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: kind of push him past Lee Smith on the all
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  Speaker 1: time saves boards to be able to try to bolster
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  Speaker 1: his overall Hall of Fame case. But Jordan, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think here with Kenley Jensen is do you think
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  Speaker 1: I'm online? You in or out on him?
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm in on him. It's funny because it
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  Speaker 2: feels like, despite how horrendous that team looked right after
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  Speaker 2: the season ended last year, it seems like the Angels
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  Speaker 2: are trying, which is a lot more than you can
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  Speaker 2: say about a lot of teams in the league right now,
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  Speaker 2: and I think. I think there's a world where they
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  Speaker 2: are actually competitive in that division, strangely enough, so I
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  Speaker 2: really don't mind it. I mean, obviously, for me, I
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  Speaker 2: consider myself pretty lucky. There was a couple leagues where
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  Speaker 2: I was really pushing hard to try to trade for
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  Speaker 2: Ben Joyce and I never got him in any of them.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm actually really happy about that now in retrospect,
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  Speaker 2: and it's disappointing for the folks that do roster him,
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  Speaker 2: because he was going to be a good option, it
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  Speaker 2: looked like coming into the season. I think that right
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  Speaker 2: now I'm probably in on ken Lee. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: where he's going currently. Obviously the ADP numbers are going
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  Speaker 2: to be completely skewed because he just signed, so it's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be a good depiction of where he actually
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  Speaker 2: should be going. But I would probably be in on
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  Speaker 2: him at price because he's gonna be going a decent
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  Speaker 2: amount lower in ADP than most of the folks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like I've got it set to the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of January, it's around like pick one ninety, which
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  Speaker 1: can't quite do. Wish that the NFBC draft data sorted
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  Speaker 1: between SP's and rps, but especially given how shallow closer
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  Speaker 1: is and how chaotic saves are. I do think that
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  Speaker 1: they'll be rising considering the nice situation for Jansen here
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  Speaker 1: Kielan Jansen, most of the projections honestly all copying each
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  Speaker 1: other's homework. Twenty five saves over under that mark for you.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of agree with Jordan on this one, and
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  Speaker 4: I think also I'm trying to remember last year. I
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  Speaker 4: know he has his ongoing heart issue, so I'm always
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  Speaker 4: curious to see how that plays out with things.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe I guess it depends on that.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe a little under, but yeah, I think I mostly
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  Speaker 4: with Jordan on that one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that wraps up the news and notes that
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  Speaker 1: for Top Series one, it dropped today on February twelve.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to go back to episode seventy eight,
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  Speaker 1: Jeremy and I covered a whole preview of the entire product,
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  Speaker 1: on the voluminous parallel checklist that is out there, I
• 14:25
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• 14:28
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  Speaker 1: let's get into our main show. Let's get into this
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  Speaker 1: ale Central. Let's get into the dirt because this is
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  Speaker 1: easily the worst division I think in baseball that it's
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  Speaker 1: when you light it up. I mean, it's not like
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  Speaker 1: the NL Central is anything great, but like the but
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  Speaker 1: the ALE Central is a different breed. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at a team that I think most outlets are
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  Speaker 1: projecting the Twins to win, and the Twins haven't made
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  Speaker 1: an offseason move in like two years, and so it's
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  Speaker 1: just a really fascinating kind of bungle of teams. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go alphabetically by city team name. That starts
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  Speaker 1: us off with the Chicago White Sox. Perfect. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: for Keeling to be on for this, because this team,
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  Speaker 1: I'll get both of your takes. I think they're losing
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  Speaker 1: more games this year. This is a team without Garrett Crochet.
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  Speaker 1: This is a team where Luis Robert's probably gonna get traded.
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  Speaker 1: This is a team with just like the bullpen is
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  Speaker 1: one of the worst I think I've ever seen. Like
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten to the point where in some like I
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  Speaker 1: think I was talking about that pitcher is on a
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  Speaker 1: draft and hold, I don't think a socks reliever went
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  Speaker 1: off the board until like the forty fifth round that
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  Speaker 1: there's just no kind of pitching that is like terribly interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got a good name here for my
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  Speaker 1: buy sell by pick. I guess I should explain that
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  Speaker 1: that's what we are going to do. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: do a buy, a sell, and a pick to click
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  Speaker 1: prospect on each team. We don't know who each other's picked,
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  Speaker 1: so we've got a little bit of a surprise element here.
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  Speaker 1: All that kind of wrapped in here, Let's move on
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  Speaker 1: to our buys for the White Sox. Jordan, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: hit you up here first. What is your buy from
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  Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox.
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  Speaker 2: So again, we're in the dregs. We're starting in the
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  Speaker 2: dregs right away. The person that I'm going to pick, though,
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  Speaker 2: I think is Miguel Vargas.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I like Vargas mostly just because his process at the
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  Speaker 2: plate is strong. The damage numbers are what are concerning,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll kind of get into that. The thing that
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  Speaker 2: I kind of used to look at Vargas is that
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  Speaker 2: he pulls the ball in the air a whole bunch.
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  Speaker 2: He swings it competitive pitches later in counts, and like
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really let a lot of pitches go past, so
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  Speaker 2: he's not going to strike out a whole bunch. And
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  Speaker 2: if you look at Robert Orr's Seager metric that he
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  Speaker 2: did over at Baseball Perspectus, he and he being Miguel Vargas,
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  Speaker 2: really did a good job at being aggressive and swinging
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  Speaker 2: in competitive counts and swinging at competitive pitches as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to lay and then go past. Really, the only thing
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  Speaker 2: that he lacks compared to a lot of the other
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: guys that he's ranked alongside by that Seager metric is
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: just the damage that he did with pitches that he hit.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I think mostly the upside with Vargas is obviously there's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: not going to really be a playing time concerned. He's
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: going to get a ton of a ton of at bats. Also,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the one little uptick that I have him as well
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: is that he is both outfield and third base eligible,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: at least in NFBC leagues. I'm assuming that's also the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: case in a lot of other leagues too, So having
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: that positional flexibility is also a huge upside for him.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of who I went with here, and
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: he's going currently at least in n FBC drafts over
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the past two weeks at pick five twenty nine, so
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: he is not hard to come by in a lot
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: of these leagues either, so I think that he's a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: good person to take a stab at. You'll probably notice
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: also that a lot of my picks are going to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: be people who are post three hundred generally, because that's
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: kind of the realm that I specialize in, is just
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: again the dregs, finding the value in the in the margins.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why I like Miguil Vargus quite a bit.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think we're going to find all
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of our White Sox players are down there in the dregs,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: as well as a lot of these other players that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: we're going to discuss. Yeah, I think this is a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: fascinating pick because it is like you could tell when
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: he came over from the Dodgers that things went awry
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: for Vargus. I think probably just like the shock to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the system of going from one of the greatest teams
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of all time to the worst team of all time
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: probably doesn't help. I am interested to see if he
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: like sought a little bit of like outside help, you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: during the off season, because I do this does strike
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: me as a profile that like he needs some smart
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: coaches in his ears, and the White Socks are not
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: going to be offering that. I don't think so Kielan,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: who are you gonna go here for your bye? And
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: any other kind of opening words that you have on
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the White Sox to bury them a little bit more?
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah no, I going through this activity
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: felt very rootless, really, so felt kind of crazy looking
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: at it and trying to make sense of anything. Really
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: so I kind of went a little bonkers with it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. So I will say that saying
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: by feels like a strong, long word. I would say
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: more interested in how this turns out is probably a
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: better assessment of this situation. I'm very curious about how
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Lenine Sosa is going to do this season. I again,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: by seems strong. However, I think he had some fielding
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: issues last year. Those were embarrassing, quite embarrassing, especially towards
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: the end of the season, and he was pretty inconsistent
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: with hitting.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: But he had some.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Flashes of brilliance that I think are possible again. And
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I have read also that in some of the winter
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: leagues in Venezuela he's been crushing it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So long term, I don't know how that's going to
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: turn out.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: However, if I wanted to be insane and just pick
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: a White Sox player, I would try him out.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I'll say that, yes, yes, I.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Mean, I don't think it's a bad call of special
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the price that you're looking at. I've got the NFBC
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: ADP data up since the beginning of the year through
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: today going around pick four thirty and second and third
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: base eligible. If it works, you could have a league
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: average bat that kind of subs in for you. I
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: think there are going to be plenty of use cases
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: for him in in deep leagues that I think this
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: is a goodbye. All right. I'll get into mind because
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I will say too that Jeremy did provide a couples
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in his absence for some of the teams did not
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: even want to touch the White Sox. So we don't
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: have a White Sox player from him my buye here.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: It's Sean Burke. So the market here is starting to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: pick this up because he is the fourth highest drafted
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: White Sox player in the ADP data, going at a
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: very low four to nine, so still very affordable. But
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: certainly people have been checking out the work that he
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: put up last year in those starts at the end
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of the season, so it was only four games, three starts,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: nineteen innings pitched last year, but he put up a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: ten point four K nine to go with a one
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: forty two ERA and a three three two FIP that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: this seems to be a profile that will work for
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the White Sox. He's also just like a great workhorse
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: pitcher six six, two thirty should open the season in
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the rotation, and I think this is the type of
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: guy where they're going to just let him play the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: entire season. So as the White Sox developed more and
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: more players, I think you'll see like the likes of
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know, no Noah Schultz and Hagen Smith maybe get
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: an opportunity layer in this year. But until then, Sean
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Burke might just hold down this rotation. And I mean,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the wins are going to be very difficult to come by.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But if you're looking for somebody with a solid ERA,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: good strikeout potential going really late in drafts, I think
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you can do much much worse than John Burke right now, Okay,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: with that, let's move into ourselves then. So I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: we've probably got plenty maybe or maybe none because there's
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it's hard to sell from the end of the draft
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: here for the White Sox. But Jordan, do you have one?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I do, and it's funny because it's Louis Robert Junior.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: It's mine too, Yay.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: It's not. But I agree with you guys, so yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my reasoning, I don't know. I don't know if
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: my reasoning is the same as yours, Mike, but yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: for me, it's mostly just that the offense that surrounds
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: him is so inept that the counting stats feel like
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: they're going to be terrible. And also he's had his
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: own injury issues and hasn't really played many full seasons
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: in his career, so I worry about him in terms
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: of the counting stat that he's going to provide. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: think there's other outfielders in a similar like adp range
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that I would rather take that I feel like we
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: are going to be more reliable than him. So yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that's kind of where I'm at with him. I don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: know about you.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, currently costing you
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: probably about like a fifth round pick to try to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: dream on the upside of like a twenty five to
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: twenty five season that. I just I think it's in there.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's not happening with the White Sox though, And I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: don't think they've got any reason to push him through
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: any kind of Nixon knacks in terms of sprains, strains,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the list, the litany of injuries is just absurd at
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: this point, between wrists and hamstrings and hips and abductors
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and obliques and ankles. Maybe he hasn't hurt his head,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that's about it. No, he had a neck issue at
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: some point, I believe, And so like he plays really hard,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: which is not great on his body, and the Socks
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: have no medical staff to speak of, I think, And
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: so that's really what is limited here him here, And
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: even if he does get traded to a better situation,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to be waiting for so long
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: until the deadline that is, it's just not worth it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: for what you're paying up for. Luis Robert Junior right now,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: what do you think, Kilan, You've seen all that firsthand
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that I have a feeling you're in the same boat.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, absolutely, I agree.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: That's why this whole, this whole thing is like I'm
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I pretty much was like, I'm not even gonna look
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: at him in this exercise because it's just like there's
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: him and then Andrew Vaughn and then everybody else pretty much.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I just was like, it seems weird to
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: even talk about him here, even though I agree.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: With both of you, like there's not even like even
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: from a non.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Playing standpoint, just any sort of motivation to do well
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: with this team like that alone is scary. So I
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: think I went a different route because, like I said,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: for me, I was like, it's not even really worth
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: talking about. I figured we would at some point. I
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: was surprised how Hi, Andrew Bin and Tindi was going,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: So I, uh.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: He was mine.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great call.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little surprised, And I don't know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: maybe it's because I'm so jaded as this point by
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: by how much he you know, he's gotten paid. But
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I again, certainly I for me, I saw that and
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: it was it was a little a little surprising, but.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Maybe you'll turn.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is definitely one where he looks great on
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a value sheet when you're getting that late in a draft,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: because he's got like every production's gone pegged for like
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: two fifty to two sixty ish average, you know, like
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: foll ish playing time with fifteen bombs and seven stolen bases,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and that looks great, but he hit two twenty nine
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: last year, and even that that was buoyed by a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: really great second half that like came out of nowhere.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Is he just kind of I think just people weren't
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: afraid of the White Sox lineup, so they were able
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to just pump it in there. You're also honestly in
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: roster resource. They have him slated for a platoon right now,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and so the only kind of benefit to Ben and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Tendee is the full playing time if he can use
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: it to accumulate. But if he's not getting those at
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: bats against left handed pitchers, there's no point in him. Yeah,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: all right, let's move on to some prospect click because
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I think this will be maybe a little less depressing. Jordan,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: what route are you going to go? Here? So?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Actually I put three down, so I'm hoping that I
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: at least have so like one of them, well sorry,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: two of them are part of the same side of
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a coin, kind of like flip it pick which one
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: you think is going to emerge?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe do you want to go last? Possibly? So that
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: coin inside, So.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: That way I can add on or like, maybe I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: won't steal one of yours again.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: No, that's the entire that makes this game fun, especially
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: like when the steel comes, it's one person's buying one
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: person's sell, so kelan, I will pass it over to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you to see what your prospect pick to click is.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: So I also had like four because I can just yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I mean there are you know, I think with the
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: White Sox, the thing is they. I mean, anybody that
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: is field player pretty much is doesn't have a good
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: chance of coming out all right with the White Sox.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: So mostly I looked at pictures and catchers.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, should I just name off one here?
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I like part of this this is backed up by stats,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: but also just in general reading about him, this is
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: a semi emotional pick.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say his last name either, Edgar
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Harol Harol, Yep, yep.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I'm very much into him, you know. I've read a
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: few things about some of his filding issues and things
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: But also it's like he's still really young.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I like what his stats are from the Miners, and
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I think he had Yeah, for twenty twenty four, he
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: had sixteen home runs and seventy RBIs So I like that,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: and I like just in general reading about him, you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: it sounds like he's very motivated. I'm curious how the
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: situation is going to work out with you know, the
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: existing White Sox veteran catchers in him and see that
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: in spring training. But overall, I feel pretty good about
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: what he looks like in that mix. I was going
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: to go with a picture at first, but I was
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: like no, because I figured both of you would or
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: one of you at a mid of them.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan was Carol one of your your coins.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Carol was one side of the coin. The other
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: side of the coin would be Kyle Teal, who the
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Socks got back from the Red Sox in the Caricochet deal. Uh.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Their ADPs are pretty similar over the past few weeks
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: on NFBC. I feel like that's kind of where it's at,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: is that it is a poin flip. Obviously other people
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: in the mix, Corey Lee. I believe the White Sox
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: also signed Brewer's old friend Omar narvaias so Yeah, I mean,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: so that's another one that's in the mix there. So
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I don't really know what's going to shake how it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: going to shake out for the catcher situation, So that
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: was my other one. I feel like Teo at least
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: has got a fairly solid batting average floor. Like I
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: don't think the counting stats obviously, just like anyone else
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: on the socks are going to blow you out of
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the water or anything like that, but I feel like
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: he would be like a safe, really late batting average
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: floor guy if you need like a second catcher in
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a league. So those are two names that I thought
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: about as well.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think great picks. Both of them are
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: actually going in front of Corey Lee, currently the starting
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: catcher in the ADP data, so everybody is also predicting
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that they'll get a decent amount of playing time here
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: going forward. So I'll do my pick to click to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: see if I hit another one of years here. Jordan
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Mine is Grant Taylor, oh so, right handed pitcher drafted
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three in the second round, but did
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: have a Tommy John surgery out of LSU. Was right
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like there with Paul Skeins on that LSU Championship roster
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: from twenty twenty three. In terms of I think they
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: were the Friday Saturday starters, and the Socks took the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: gamble on taking him in the second round of twenty
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: twenty three, even knowing that that Tommy John was in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: his future. But he did get back on the mound
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: last year, got into sixteen innings down in a ball
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: but had a forty three point one k percentage against
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: just one point seven percent walk percentage. I think he's
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: going to be a fast riser given the violence in
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: his delivery and just that the White Sox want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: capitalize on what they can get out of Grant Taylor.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: So I think that there's lots of leagues, especially in
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: keeper dynasty situations, where he's probably fallen off the radar
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: because of that injury that Taylor has been dealing with.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But I think there's a really great chance that he
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: can get to the majors this year, just because the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: stuff is so nasty, there's no one really in front
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of him, and worse comes to worse. I mean, he
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: can be a perfect closer here for the White Sox.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So I even in redraft leagues like you are in
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: some of these super deep fifty round draft and holds,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad kind of like last
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: pick to throw a dart at Grant Taylor.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that a lot. I mean it looks
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: looking at his prospect grades at least averround fangrafts like
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: really really good fastball projected to have future value for
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: both the slider around the curve ball to be averager
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: above average offerings. Command is the concern, but obviously, in
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: a very admitted to the small sample last year, he
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: did not walk many batters, so I think, yeah, definitely
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: in a solid art throw. This actually wasn't the other
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: one that I was going to pick.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, and has an NRI right now too, non
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: roster invite boy, Taylors, So it will be fascinating to
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: see how it all unfolds. But yeah, who is your
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: other one here, Jordan?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: It was Hagen Smith, Yes, okay, yeah, I mean just
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: elite fastball, elite slider, like didn't blow minor league hitters
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: away last year, but at the same time has like
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: that pedigree, was an elite pitcher at Arkansas. I think
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: that there's obviously not a ton of depth in terms
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: of talent in that starting rotation for the White Sox,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: so I think that there's a chance at the end
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of the year here that he'll be able to make
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: a few starts here there. I watched a lot of
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Hagen Smith starts at the behest of one of my
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: very good friends who was an Arkansas fan, specifically Arkansas baseball,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and was really really impressed with what I saw. So
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I think that's probably the person that I'm most in
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: on this year as far as a prospect for the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: White House.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, I like it, and currying favor with JKJ too.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Oh beautiful.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's move on to the Cleveland Guardians, who
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: won this division last year with a ninety two win,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: ninety two and sixty nine record. Nice and nice, Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: they had one rainout. I guess I didn't realize that,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and so they're pretty much running it back at this point.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You know, they had They did move out Andre Simenez
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and brought in Luis Ortis to that rotation in the swap,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but otherwise, I mean it's anchored by again, I think
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: he's future Hall of Famer Jose Ramirez is going to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: be in the middle of this lineup along with kind
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: of this typical cast of Guardians characters and platoons. Strong rotation.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: It looks like again along with probably the best bullpen
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: in baseball arguably, they do just kind of create these
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: dudes out of nowhere in Cleveland. So I think there's
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: always great opportunities to buy on the pitching side, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: even the minor league systems that it's pretty stocked, so
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: should be seeing more at bats for the likes of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Manzardo and others that are coming through
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the system like John Kinzy nowel all that considered, Jordan,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: who are you going with on your buy here? All right?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: So this is gonna be a little bit interesting. I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and it also kind of has something to do with
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: my cell I'm gonna say, Kate Smith.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: All Right.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: When you look at record projections from like fan graphs
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: and like Pakoda projections from Baseball Perspectus and everything like that,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: they do not have the Guardians finishing very high in
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: that division. They lost Josh Naylor. Obviously. I don't think
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: that Carlos Santana, who they signed as a bad replacement
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: by any means, like that's a guy that's gonna give
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you twenty plus Elmers, probably, But I feel like losing
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Naylor is kind of ad to that lineup. I think
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: that there is a world based on projections currently where
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the Guardians lose too many games, get too far behind,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and they end up being sellers. And I think they
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: trade am manual class for a hall of prospects, similar
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: in a similar bain to what the Brewers did in
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: choosing to trade away Josh Hater with another full year
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: left on his contract so they could get more in return. Uh,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm at with that. So I think that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: there's a very good chance that at some point during
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the season Emmanuel class A gets dealt and then Kate
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Smith takes on that closer role and ends up being
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: a full time closer.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and brew would agree with you because his cell
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: actually here. He did give us one for the Guardians
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and it was Classe, which oh and I think also
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: probably goes a little bit hand in hand with you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Just look at the luck metrics, A one ninety five
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: BABIT for Class A to T two, which is fantastic,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: but a point six one ERA last year. It's all
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: kind of got to go one direction. But I'm on
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: board with you on Kate Smith because again, this is
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like I've been trying to acquire more players like this
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to bolster my teams. Is this type of reliever, if
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: he's putting up a three ERA with his strikeouts, is
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: worth a roster spot that when you punch it into
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: an auction calculator, it's always going to kick out positive
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: value in a mixed league. And Kate Smith can do that.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Just provide great ratios, save here or there, win here.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Are there lots of case better than some of the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: options you get at starters nowadays. Keelan, who are you
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: gonna go with for your bye in Cleveland?
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I went a little. Well, I feel safer
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: with this one, but it is definitely informed by injury history.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: So I went with Steve Kwan. I'm very curious this
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: year since he was like crushing it last year and
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: then got hurt and you know, came back a little.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: But I'm interested to see if he'll stay healthy what
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: that could be this year. I do think it could
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: be better. So I feel positive about it. But it
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: also felt I said it felt like a safer choice.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: It really doesn't, because I feel like he will get hurt,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: so but yeah, I feel like I want to see
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: that and I would go for it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Personally, I like it, Yeah.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: In terms of just great well rounded profile, great batting average.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did a really good job last year early
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: in the years, specifically at He's not a guy who
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: hits the ball super duper hard, but he did hit
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the ball at really ideal launch angles. Yeah, that maximize
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and squeezed the most power that he could out of
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: his profile, which is really promising. So yeah, if you
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: can stay healthy for a full season, like there's a
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: world where he hits like fifteen plus home runs and
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: gives you thirty ish stolen bases over a full season
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and where he's going like, that's a great value.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I'm also curious too about what he can do with
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: stolen bases this season. I don't know how much you
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: know he was affected by that, but I think that's
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: another area too that would be very useful if like
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: we're saying he can stay healthy.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I have a separate by here. Mine
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: is actually Gavin Williams, who, honestly, in a couple more
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: weeks time, he might not be because he is quickly
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: starting to rise up draft boards because since the beginning
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of the year it is an ADP of like two fifty,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: but it's starting to rise pretty quickly, mid pick of
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: one ninety five, and a lot of it is just
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: where you kind of start parsing between like what happened
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: last year and what he produced in like his stuff.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Plus he's got a great arsenal five pitches that are
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: all round average or tick above average, solid fastball that
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: he can lean on. And he's a pitcher for the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians, so you always know there's kind of another
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: notch there. I think that Williams really struggled with He
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: was battling like a forearm slash elbow issue a lot
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: of last year. But I think putting that kind of
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: in the rear of your mirror a little bit, considering
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he was around to get into that playoff run, and
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: especially where his price is. It's one of the last
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: pitchers I see that could turn into something akin to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a staff base for you in terms of fantasy, where
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you're looking at somebody who could start pushing like a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: ten k per nine and give you ten or twelve wins.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: That Gavin Williams is one of those last players that
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I think fits that bill. And like I said, in
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: a couple more weeks, maybe this won't be quite as
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: big of a buye because he's quickly rising up as
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: people kind of realize this and noticed that he had
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a for eighty six array that was supported by a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: three sixty seven fifth last year. So once a lot
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: of those metrics kind of come back, he's got a
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: solid profile. They'll just play really well for the Guardians. Okay,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: let's get into our cells. Then, Jordan, who are you
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: selling from the Guardians?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: So it was gonna be class A obviously, Like yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Brew talked about that, and it's just like mostly what
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I said about the idea that they might deal him,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: and like you brought up the era obviously exceptional last year,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: but there's going to be some regression to the me
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and he's not going to be what he was last year.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I guess the other person that I could bring up
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that I feel like I'm kind of out on is
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: John Kenzie. No, well, I was kind of blown away.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I was looking at ADP data from the past couple
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: of weeks and he has a minimum pick on NFBC
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: of one oh seven, which is an outlier, assuredly, But wow.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I love that. That's great. I love I want to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: meet that person.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know if I'm that enticed by
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: his particular profile, especially at even that like pick four
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: or fifteen, Like the power is obviously prodigious. I'm not
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: sure if I'm necessarily willing to stomach the hit that
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I would probably take to my average. If he ends
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: up being like a Schwarber type where he's hitting like
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: two ten and hits like forty something home runs, obviously
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look really really dumb because that's still valuable
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: on any given team. But I just don't know if
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: he is going to provide that for teams this year.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of out on him.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes sense and currently looks to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: be slotted for a short side platoon, which does not
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: help anything at all. All right, who's yourself keeling?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I did pick class.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: A Oh okay, yeah, so so yeah, I mean, I
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: agree that he reached a point where it's like I
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: would be surprised if he didn't regress, even though that
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: would be insane if he didn't. And then I think
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: also one thing, and it was, you know, just a
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: few games, but in the playoffs he was like rough. Yeah,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, it's obviously kind of a grain of salt,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: but I'm like, what was going on? So I'm curious
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: how that will end up this season. So that is
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: to say, yeah, I think right now he's just very high,
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: but I would still get him if I could. But yeah,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I think overall in general he's due for a little dip.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: This year. So I spoke for Jeremy.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, you both did.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: We spoke for Jeremy. We're Jeremy.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: We Yeah, I'm gonna go with mysell is. It's Lane
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Thomas for me. He currently going around pick one eight,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: so that's actually like a twelve round pick in the
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: draft champions data. I don't know if people realize, but
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: he was awful with the Guardians when he came over
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that in the fifty three games after being traded there,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he slashed two nine, two, sixty seven three ninety only
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: still four bases in those fifty three games, as opposed
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to twenty eight in his seventy seven games with the Nats.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: The only value he was providing for you last year
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: because the just profile in terms of the hard hit
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: rate and the barrel rate is just pretty middling as well,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: as you know, buoyed a lot by well. Actually I
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: thought he was the better defender than he actually is
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: not a great defender. So could lose time like over
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: or could lose playing time over the season as Lane Thomas.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: You know, if the Guardians realized they need a real
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: center fielder there and they're just not going to run
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the way that the Nats did. The Nationals had a
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: green light for anybody and everybody last year, and Lane
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Thomas is not going to swipe thirty two bags again
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: this You'll be lucky, I think, to get fifteen out
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: of him on the Guardians. And so it is an
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: easy landman mine, I think sitting right there in the
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: middle of like that twelfth round. So do not Draftlinge Thomas. Okay,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: let's get into our prospect pick to click. So, Jordan,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: who are you going to pick out of this? It's
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a fantastic system. I had a hard time whittling it down,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: did you as well?
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: There was one person that I've been paying attention to
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: since last year when he had an amazing game in
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: late April. I think it was he had a start
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: that he made in low a ball where he struck
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: out fifteen and became very briefly prominent on baseball Twitter
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: at the time. And that is Matt Wilkinson, otherwise known
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: as tugboat, which is an amazing nickname. By the way,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: so wellcomes into the lefty pitch between loway and high ball.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Last year he had I think it was like around
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: a thirteen k per nine between the two levels, a
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: K minus face on ball of nearly thirty. Like he
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: was dominating hitters at that level. Looked really, really good.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I just think that a guy with his profile, like
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: really solid fastball, He's not like overpowering hitters. His BILO
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: isn't amazing by any means, but he shows a pension
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: for being really competitive and dominating hitters at that little level.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I think that he's going to start in Double A
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: this year, and there's obviously between injuries what have you,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: there's a chance that we could see him sometime later
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: this season, maybe make his debut, you make a spot start,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and it's just someone that's really fun to root for.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: So I'm in on Matt Wilkinson.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I won't lie. I was not familiar with him, but
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: now I'm very familiar with him. Tugboat Baby, Yeah, six
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: one two seventy, that's where the tugboat nick nickname comes from.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: That's for sure that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm a fan of absolute units, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: he is one.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is quite the unit. I Yeah, I might
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: just have to include him in on my rasball post
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: for this because yeah, I want to watch this in
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: action too. It's got to be just like poetry in
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: motion trying to watch him pitch.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's great at pick.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Who's your pick to click here? Kielan?
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so with this one, I'm not gonna lie.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: I did not know much about Cleveland's prospects now I know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: so I kind of cheated with this.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: One a little and went with uh, Chase the latter.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, obviously I had to read about
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: him very recently, so I think what I like about
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: him is just general. It seems like he's well rounded,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: so I think that always it's great to have. And
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: then I think the one thing was I was looking
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: at his minor stats and they're kind of weird for
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. So hopefully that, you know, will be
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: improving as he kind of comes up through the system.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: So that was more of a new one for me
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: as I'm familiar with their system that much.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, great pick, great bat Gonna be
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: useful if you have an il spot though, because of
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: his history of foot injuries that I think they're always
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: going to be there. But you can't deny that bat.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: It's a crazy good bat. Okay. My pick to click
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: here is he's actually slated to be the starting second baseman.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: It's Juan Brito. So he came over in the trade
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: for Nolan Jones from the Colorado Rockies, put up a
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: fantastic here at Triple A with a one thirteen WRC
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: plus twenty one homers, which Columbus is a bit homer friendly,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: so take that with a little bit of grain of salt.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: But thirteen Stone bases, ninety two runs and eighty four
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: harpi over his one hundred and forty four games at
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Triple A. I think there's a reason why they moved
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Andre Siminez out in Cleveland, that they were ready for
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Juan Brito to take over in going into his age
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: twenty three season. I think it's a great bat. Where
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: like the batting average, I think all of the projections
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: are under on him because you look at the prospect reports,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Fangrafts has him as a fifty current sixty future on
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the hip tool and all the batting averages for the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: projections are in like the two thirties. I think this
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: is a guy who can at least hit league average
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: to fifty, but you could be looking at some upside
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: from there and then yeah, if he's just playing for Cleveland.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I love the Zips projection. Actually, I think it nails
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: about what I expect from Juan Brito this year with
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: thirteen homers, seven storm bases, seventy three runs, and sixty
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: eight RBI. Considering how late he is going in drafts,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't beat that at second base, which
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: is just a future position here for Fantasy twenty twenty five. Okay,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: with that, we are going to move on to the
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Detroit Tigers, who made a miraculous run to the playoffs
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: last year to secure a wild card spot. Probably gonna
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: be right in that mix again, as they just added
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty last week, which was really awesome to see.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I think that was a great landing spot and reunion
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: for him. And going into the twenty twenty five season,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: you know, they should still be looking at a pretty
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: similar lineup as to what they had last year. In fact,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if they actually have anybody new,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: and they except for Glabor Taurus, who I should have
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: known because he might be coming up for me in
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And so otherwise you got Tarik Scoble
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: returning off of his young effort, and a mix and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: match bullpen, which I think will be fascinating and frustrating
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: for all of us fantasy players getting into twenty twenty five.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: All these considerations, Jordan, who is your buye from the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Detroit Tigers.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I've been stumping to this person for months in group
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: chats on Discord and did a piece on him. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: did a panel with my former podcast co host Chris
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Webber otherwise known as Shwebzy for PITCHCN, the charity event
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that Pittureless runs every year. Tyler Holton is the person
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: that I am super duper in on just Elite Contact
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Suppressor made some really interesting changes once he got signed
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: by the Tigers after he was defaed by the Diamondbacks
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty three. He's been one of the
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: most reliable relievers in that time. He's interesting because he
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: gets a decent amount of volume as a reliever, like
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: he threw ninety plus innings the past couple of years.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: The strikeouts aren't amazing by any means. But his whip
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: has been sub zero point nine both seasons, and his
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: ERA is hovering right around two. So you're getting a
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: ton of volume that comparable of like some of these
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: pitchers that are throwing like only one and one hundred
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and twenty innings for getting close to that. But he's
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: providing ratios throughout that whole time. And he's the type
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: of person that aj Hinch has said that he is
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: going to be pitching in every single inning in a
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: game this season from one through nine. At some point.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: He's currently slated on roster resource as being one of
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the potential closers for the team. So there is a
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: chance that with the volume that he pitches and the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: role that he plays, that he could get both double
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: digit saves and wins this year fairly easily. And I
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: think with the ratios as far as like Eer and
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Whipper concerned that he provides, that he's going to be
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: a super good value. Also, he's the only person we're
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: going to talk about today probably that had an MVP
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: vote last year.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: That is a good point. Yeah, so I turn it, Yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: it probably is. I love this pick in the Draft
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Champions data since the beginning of this year. His average
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: pick is forty three, which is absurd to me because like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: this is the exact person you want in Draft champions
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: in terms of you want a picture you can always throw,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: who'll give you great ratios, Probably the only player in
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the entire player pool that might push double digit wins
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and double digit saves in a nice little like Mike
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Marshall recreation. And so I love Tyler Holton. I've been
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: snatching him up in lots of places too because of
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: all these considerations you've been talking about, and like he's
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: just such a great weapon for stash him on your bench.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Oh I don't have enough pictures to throw this week. Boom,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Tyler Holton's in there. Or maybe he just becomes a
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: permanent fixture if he takes over as the closer. Yeah, Kelan,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: who you buying from the Detroit Tigers?
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Who am I buying?
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I am buying Parker Meadows this year. I think last year,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: after his demotion, he came back and kind of crushed
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: it that and I think with this this fielding, I
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: think for me that was very very obvious this year,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: So going with him.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, I think this is a great sneaky pick
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: for fifteen, fifteen or a twenty twenty season. Considering where
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: he's going in drafts, I think, I mean, lots of
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: people are keen in, but where people are taking him
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: right now, I don't. It's not quite as like he's
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: projected to hit lead off for this team. And I
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: think a lot of like Brew's actually pick here was
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Carry Carpenter, which I Brew, I confuse Meadows and Carpenter
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: a lot in my head. So I've got to like
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: really work on like spacing that out just generic white
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: dudes who are electing the hitters, you know.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, yeah, I have seen It's interesting that
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: I've seen a mixed bag on Carry Carpenter, so I
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: can see, yeah, why he would do that, and maybe
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: he did get the next that'd be so funny.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely am.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I don't have Carry Carpenter as myself, so but I
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: this year, I definitely am not as much about him
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: as last year.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean this is a guy who Carpenter
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: constantly is popping in Bruce models. I know, just in
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: terms of the bat of ball quality that I think
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: he was included in maybe Bruce list of like possible
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: next Sprent Rookers that. Certainly the platoon issues might crop
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: up here and there for Carpenter, but he's young enough
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: where he might just they might let him play given
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: what they're working with in Detroit.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: He had a hamstring injury later last season, that's right. Yeah,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: I'm curious how that might impact him as well if
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: they do let him play.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well my buye is actually one of
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: the off season acquisitions. It's Jack Flaherty because I mean,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I think especially the way that his season ended with
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the blow to dra and the stuff
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: kind of backing up. We talked about this a little
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: bit when he was acquired last week that I think
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: he just wore down. It was the second most inning
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Jack Flurry to have her thrown. Honestly, I don't even
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: think he expected himself to throw that many innings, So
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: he probably didn't quite have the prep or the mental
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: fortitude to kind of like think that all the way through.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: And I think he just ran out of gas down
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the stretch that he was pitching for that contract while
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: he was in Detroit. Doesn't get better from like a
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: park than pitching in Detroit, especially for the first couple
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of months. Of the year when everything's still frozen up
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: in Michigan. And yeah, it's just as simple as looking
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: at the split last year and the one hundred and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: six and two thirds innings that Flaherty pitched with the Tigers.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: He had a two ninety five RA with an eleven
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: point two K nine, won seven games. I think all
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: of the projections aren't picking that up because I think
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: they're they're relying a little bit more on the stuff
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: more than they have in the in the past. And
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: obviously that backed up when he went to the Dodgers,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: but with an offseason arrest and landing back in Comerica
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Park against the ale Central, I think we're looking at
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Jack Flerdy kind of turning back into something like a
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: mid threes era with ten and a half K nine
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: going into the season. It's just kind of if you
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: get the chance to sell him before he tails off
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season, maybe not a bad idea.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent of park upgrade and a division upgrade,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: so I would be in on him as well. It's
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: a good pick.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get into some cells here for Detroit. Jordan,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: who are you selling from the Tigers?
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to be crucified. I'm gonna say, Trek.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Schooble, oh here, it is okay at his price.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I just I mean, he's a lad. I'm not saying
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: that it's bad, it's just at his price. I feel
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: like in this day and age when you're drafting, I've
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: gotten burned by it multiple times in the past. When
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: you take that sp one so early in a draft,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: you're hamstringing yourself so much on the offensive side, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's more important than ever. It's nothing
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: about him, that's the thing. He's amazing. I think he's
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: going to be great, But in drafts this year, I
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: feel like you really really have to prioritize offense and
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: like getting a good power speed combo with one of
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: those early picks. So that's why I'm off of Trek
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Schooble at his price minimum pick of nine in the
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: past two weeks on an FBC, So I just can't
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: justify doing that in the first round.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're on a rasball podcast, so I'm not
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: going to disagree with you that. Like, I agree, all
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: of the everything is there from a skills standpoint, a
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: production standpoint, but no, I can't do it in the
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: first or second round either that especially you look at
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: his injury history too. It does in the violence that
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: he pitches with it, just I don't fully trust it
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: yet either. What do you think, Klan is? Are you
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: on the Treek schoogle train in the first round or
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: are you also kind of in this ras ball mentality
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: that we preach a lot in terms of just waiting
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: for that picture a couple of rounds.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I usually I usually wait because I've been burned
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: many times. Even when I have waited, I've been burned,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Which maybe that's some sort of weird like self fulfilling thing.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I usually wait quite.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: A few rounds before I do.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: And then I think it's the same thing we were
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: kind of talking about with Class A in terms of
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: like it was pretty good, so the chance to regress
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: is there as well.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: All right, well, who are you going to go with
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: your bi then? Or sell? Sorry yourself?
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: No, that's okay, I was like, which are we on?
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm gonna call this a cell even though
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know that.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Many people.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Have selling to do. It's more of just the situation
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: unfolding has been really interesting I think with especially compared
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: to where they used to be Spencer Torgulsen. I it's
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: really interesting. I think how how kind of turned out,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: especially you know, I remember, I think it was like
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: two or three years ago watching him with Riley Green
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: and just how their trajectories have turned out. And I'm
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: really interested in terms of how, Yeah, Glabor Torre is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: coming in is going to well, I mean it's definitely
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: affected Spencer Torkolsen, but you know, Colt Keith is getting
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: moved to first base, which could be good considering his injuries.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see, but yeah, I mean it
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: seems like at this point, I don't know what it
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: would would take him to get back at any point
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: besides somebody else getting injured Spencer Torklssen. So yeah, that's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: more of just like something that's stood out to me
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: just thinking of the past few seasons about where he's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: been and where he's going.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I'm in the same boat in terms
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: of just like I don't think I'm ever back in
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: on the Torkosen experience was more often the miners, even
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: for him last year that it's.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Gone, it does seem gone.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, my cell I alluded to it a little bit.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: It's g labor Torres here that I don't get the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: projections here that I mean, I'm not like a algorithm
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: like guru or anything. But how does this guy is
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: another year older? He put up his worst year ever,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: worst barrel well wors sparrel rate since twenty twenty, whor's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: hard to hit rate ever? Did that all in New York.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Now in fewer played appearances. All the projections are calling
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: for him to hit more homers than he did last year,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: steal more bases than he did last year, even though
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: stolen bases are usually a hallmark of a walk year.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Only stole four last year. That was like the one
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: thing when Torres like, coming into last year, I had
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a few shares just because like I was counting on
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: like that sticking around to be able to get ten
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: stolen based album. But I just don't see how this
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: works in Comerica Park, It's one of the worst hitters
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: parks in all of baseball. On top of it, he
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: is gonna be in a lot of cold weather parks
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: to begin the season. That like it's just not gonna
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: come together. I think that this is like the chance
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to really bottom out, Like I think that, like there's
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: a possibility the euro can at maybe like a two
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: forty average and like fewer than ten homers from glabor
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Tors that the floor is just super super low here,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: and even though second base is pretty thin, I think
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: you can do better finding some upside chances around where
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Glabor's going in terms of the two hundred and thirtieth
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: average ish pick. Since the being in the year and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: draft champion state of so it's not like lots of
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: people are in on him, but I'm fading him even
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: farther than that that it's a it's a total like
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: stay away from glabor Tors coming into this year for me.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a massive park town great for him. I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: don't really like him either. I'm kind of in the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: same boat as you here.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I don't know how he even revives
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: his career kind of too, it's gonna take a lot,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, this would have been a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: great person to go to Colorado. I would have pushed
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: for that if I were. Yeah, but okay, let's get
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: into our prospect pics to click. So, Jordan, who's yours here?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: It's probably Cold Keith. I mean, obviously the full buy
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: in by the team just turning him into a first
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: baseman also a plus. He's going to be first base
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: and second base eligible at some point this season, which
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: is always nice to have in leagues. He seemed to
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: get a lot more comfortable as the season went on,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: and so much like Braddy Green in his first taste
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: was a after he kind of settled in, he was
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: fantastic too. So I have a lot of faith in
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Cold Keith at ADP. He's going actually slightly after Glabor Torres,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: and I would much prefer to have Cold Keith be
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: my second basement on my fantasy teams than Labor Torres
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: at this point. So that's kind of where I'm at
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree here. This is a great pick.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: He was one of my buys that I considered as
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: well because lots of people gave up with him. He
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: did his first home till May twenty fourth last year.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: From May twenty fourth on one to eleven WRC plus
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: two seventy two three eighteen four to twenty four slug
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: that is a heck of a slash line with just
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: He's a good, solid hitter and you're looking at guy
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: who's walking to his age twenty three season. I think
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: this is a fantastic pick.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Look, Dylan, who's your pick here?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: I picked Jackson. I don't know if it's job or Joby.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: I even saw him play persons.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: It's actually Jubbin yeah, Jobby.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Joebidaia Uh yeah, I uh so one.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: I mean I really like his his minor league numbers,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: and then you know, he got to debut last September,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: I think, and.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: He got to play.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: I believe he played a little bit, yeah, in the playoffs,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: which was like Whoa's surprising, but he did pretty well.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: So I mean, if you can handle that sort of
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: a very short term pressure. But if he can handle
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: that sort of pressure, then yeah, I feel pretty good
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: about him.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Every time he would come play, my brother and.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: I'd be like job, I don't think we knew how
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: to say his name. So yeah, I feel I feel
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: pretty good about how he's looking for the future.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a great pick if you're
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: looking for somebody who can really get to that next level.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I think he's only been pitching for a few years too,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: because he was mostly a shortstop in high school and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: so yeah, there's still more meat on the bone. I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: think in terms of development and where he can go
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: great pitcher spark, I think this is a great pick. Okay,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I hope I pronounced this correct. I'm gonna go with
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: hot You Lee here for my pick, partly because of
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: like my fate of glabor. Torres Lee came over from
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia system and is a second baseman, has a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: non roster invite going into the spring, and I'm he
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: crushed it at Double A last year for the Tigers.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Hit two ninety eight, three sixty three, four eighty eight
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: in double A with twelve homer sixteen stolen bases. The
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: if anything, the hit tool here, it seems like maybe,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, Fangrass has this a thirty current forty future,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: But he's really shown the ability to make great contact,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: has a good eye, you know, has walked at a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: double digit rate in most of his stops, and the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: strikeout rate is not absurd considering what type of power
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: he's holding in that bat, and then you just kind
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: of layer it all together that it does seem like
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: this is a guy who has gotten kind of lost
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: in the shuffle of middle infield prospects in the landscape
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: of the league that I think there's a great chance
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: that he comes up and gets significant playing time for
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: the Tigers this year, as they just need somebody to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: be able to provide some value at the back end
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: of that lineup. So I love the Zips lines here
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: two fifty nine, three, fourteen, four to fourteen slash line
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: from Zips with ten homers and nine stone bases over
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: four hundred at bats or four hundred play appearances. So
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I mean this. I think Lee's got great potential to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: be a fifteen to fifteen bat going forward, and I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: think now is the time to buy before he kind
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: of especially if he is hot in spring training and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: opens up very well in Triple A. I think he's
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: going to be a fast riser in dynasty leagues. Okay,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: well that gets us out of Michigan and we're going
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to go to Missouri, not Kansas to get to the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Kansasay Royals, which this is a fascinating team. I can't
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys got it right here.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: My big old Baseball Prospective Annual, the oh yeah, the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: essay that they had for this year was fast because
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize how little the Royals walked as a team,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: And that's what the essay really focuses on this year,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: is how it's not even like just the team this year,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: it's like a historical Royals thing where they just have
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: never really walked very much. And so it's just one
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: of the stranger builds that I've seen in any MLB
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: team this year, like if the past few years, in
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: terms of you're looking at so many holes in that lineup.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: It is a weak lineup outside of Bobby Witt junior,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: great pitching staff, pretty solid bullpen, and they wrote that
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: all the way to a Wild Card berth last year,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: which I think they're looking to do again this year.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I actually heard when I was listening to Effectively Wild
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: as they did the preview pod on the Royals this week,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: it sounds like some of the players on that roster
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: think that their World Series contenders. I guess we'll see
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: maybe Hunter Renfro isn't going to be helping out there
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: too much, or maybe they should do something about m J. Melndez.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: But all those considerations, who are you buying from the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals going into twenty twenty five I'm.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Kind of really into and this is just like so
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: niche and corner case.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: But Chris Bubach, you got mine. This is yes. I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: can't quit this dude. I love him so much.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was fantastic out of the bullp Like,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I think keeping him in a bullpen roll is the move. Obviously,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: he was fantastic out of the pen last year. I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: think that's the one thing that's going to be their
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: kind of sneaky strength because they have a few good starters.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Obviously they have between Waka and then you have Seth
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Lugo as well as Cole Reagan's, Like that's a very
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: good one two three combination in that starting rotation. I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: think the bullpen is kind of sneaky strong, and that's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: where most of their strengths fly. Talking about like the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: lack of walks, they had one player on their team
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: that walked more than ten percent of the time last year.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: That's projected to be in the strong side of the
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: platoon this year, which is crazy, It is really really insane.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: But to be fair, they didn't really have anyone that's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: projected to be a starter against right handed pitchers who
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: struck out an absurd amount at the time either, so
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: they're putting the ball in play a lot at the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: very least, which helps them there. So yeah, no, but
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I do like Chris Boobach. I think that I am
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit concerned of them making because he's projected
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: right now to be the sp five. I don't know
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: if I necessarily like having him back in the rotation
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: considering how good he was in relief, but he did
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: look fantastic in the small amount of innings that he
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: pitched last year, so I do like him. How many
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: innings he's he going to throw this year? Who knows.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Projections mostly have him for I think around like one
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: ten something like that. In a swing man role. I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: think he would be amazing. But I'm still not sure
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: about the transition back to start, so we'll see what
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: happens with them.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I actually I think he is going
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: to start. And this is probably my spicy take at
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: the pod, but I think this might be Cole Reagan's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: like two point zero sort of level. Like I think
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: that the stuff here is incredible, like it started in
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and like he that's when the breakout started.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: He made an arsenal change and you can just see it.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: It jumps out right away in his page when you're
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: looking at it. The era went down, the fifth went down,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: the strikeouts went up, the walks went down, the ground
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: ball rate went up, and he repeated that in the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: twenty seven games that he appeared in last year, with
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: over those thirteen and thirty innings. I hope that he starts,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: because I think the projections are dead wrong on this guy.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: I think he's really got some potential to produce. Like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I said, maybe not like full coreake, but like if
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: you can get into like one hundred innings of starts,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: and I think you're looking at one hundred plus k's
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: with like a mid three ZRA and even from there,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. People really lost track of Boobage
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: because of that Tommy John surgery in twenty twenty three
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: and whatever he had figured out at the beginning of
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: the season before he shredded his UCL that it's back,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: and so I am all on board on Chris Boubage.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: This is going to be somebody who probably enters my
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: waiver wire column a lot until either blows out again
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: or moves his way kind of up into that rotation
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: for then further, so great pick.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of it is that slider that he
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: added because he stopped throwing his curveball pretty much completely
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. He had kind of transitioned from
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: throwing a curveball in twenty twenty two through it less
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: and then added a slider in twenty three, and then
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: in twenty four just completely got rid of the curveball.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: And he's got so much art a glove side movement
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: on that slider well above le gaverage and still fairly
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: decent view o on it, like vering right around lea gaverage,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit lower. But I think it was
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: the addition of that pitch and also maybe some slight
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: changes in terms of the movement profile on his fastball
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: that really are making him click the way he is now.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, he's he's going to be good regardless
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: I think of what role he's in. I think I
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: do prefer him as a reliever, but he's going to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: be better than people expect him to be regardless of
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: what role that he's in.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, who is here by here on the Royals Keelan?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: So for me, I picked the same person last year.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: We talked about the same stay exact thing last year.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: Year did Yeah, so I'm.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Gonna I'm hoping this will be Vinny Pascuntino's year again,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: which I said last year i'd think too.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't, but I I'm still hoping it will.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, he had a pretty good season
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: until he broke his thumb, and then before that he
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: had torn his laborum. So we'll see about the injury.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: But I am definitely still very much in on him.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: I would just like to see the whole thing this year.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be too harsh on yourself. It is a
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: two sixty two average with nineteen bombs and ninety seven
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: ribis last year, so it was.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: A good he did go off.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he did go off. So I'm hoping to
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: see more sustainably that this year.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he was in consideration for me too. I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: picked him in that draft and hold I was talking
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: about because first base is awful and so like Vinnie
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: is probably like one of the last dudes I would
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: count on to be my starting first baseman. But yeah,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: if you can get him as your corner, you're well
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: ahead of the game. In your draft because after Vinnie
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: it falls off of a cliff. So great, great call.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into ourselves. Jordan, who are you
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: selling from the Kansas City Royals?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Kind of out on Jonathan India. I don't like the
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: park fit for him.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: We are vibing, We're.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: We're on the same wavelength.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: This is great.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I really don't like the park fit for
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Jonathan India. Funny enough, we're talking about walk, right, he
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: actually does walk a halfway decent amount. He is the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: only person on that team that walks a halfway decent amount. Really,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: that's going to be seeing that much playing time. I
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: just think that he's going to be incredibly boring from
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: fantasy perspective, like real life baseball completely different. Obviously, I
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a fine second baseman, but yeah,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: from a fantasy baseball perspective, unless you're in like an
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: OBP league, I think that he's probably gonna be pretty
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: darn boring. Despite leading off and batting in front of
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: both Vinnip and Bobby Wood Junior. Most of the time,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: he could be good for like getting runs, but everything
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: else is just gonna be kind of shoulder shrug for me,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: so I'm kind of out on him.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree, And this is another one where
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I just don't get the project actions again that like
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: he hit fifteen bombs in Cincinnati last year with a
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: middling hard hit and barrel rate, way harder to hit
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: homers in Kansas City. I don't know where those fifteen
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: bombs are going to come from, but I don't know
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: if he's going to reach double digits. That Kansas City
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: is great for like base hits and stuff like that,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: but I just don't see India being able to hit
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: it out of Kaffmin Stadium with any regularity. That it's
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: really going to grind on what you counted on him for.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: And yeah, especially because I think people have been pushing
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: him up draft boards a little bit because of just
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: the state of second base. So he's going like two
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty ninth ish but starting to move up
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: because of like his position in that Royals lineup. And
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really easy to regret
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: that because I mean, it's league average batting average, probably
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit of speed, but the power is just
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: never going to materialize. I don't think for India this
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: year all right, Killan, who's yourself for the Royals?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I also wanted to add to that,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: I'm really for Jonathan India.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: He was in my cell short list. I was also.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Confused, I'm gonna go over another one though he wasn't
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: my main one. So I was really confused about that too,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: because you had that long ongoing well first it was
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: like foot and then I think it turned out to
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: it was very weird. The way the whole foot then
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: ankle thing was was strange because I think they he
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: was mad at He was like very frustrated about the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: care he received for it, and I think that was
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: like a big frustration. And I think he just had
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: surgery in October for his ankle, So I'm very curious
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: to see how that's even going to impact him beyond
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: what you guys were even saying, like is that going
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: to kind of rear its head? We haven't really seen
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: that yet, So that was one reason when I was
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: looking at him, I was like, wait, did we just
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: kind of like skip over some of those parts?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: So I had forgotten about that surgery. So thanks for
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Imbulence chasing for us that, Like, I think that's a
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: good point that that's not going to help those stolen
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: bases at all.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and I mean it literally.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: I think it literally was just in October that he
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: had it, so and I mean that was it. That
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: was it for them anyway. So I'm not sure how
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: that's doing. You would think better, but you never know.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: So Yeah. I also.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: I picked this person just because as another one, because
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of both sides of the argument.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: So I went with Michael Garcia as my pick here
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: because I've seen a lot of people in on him
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: and I'm kind of again, this was sort of an
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: agnostic pick, but mostly I was like, I see the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: downside more of this, just in terms of how their
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: base situation is going to work out and where he's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: going to end up landing there. I'm very curious to
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: see how that go. I see more people looking at
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: an upside now, but I think because of that, I'm
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: curious to see. And he does have like a few
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: a few really strong areas, but then they're kind of
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: all pulled down by like if you look at his stack, cast.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: By a lot.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like he might be slightly over
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: ranked there, but we'll see.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've ended up with him in a couple of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: places already, but partly it's more so the way thy draft.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: So I don't mind the price here, but like it is,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: you got to have the team build for him because, like,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: especially when I've been digging into that area the draft,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: he's second and third base eligible. He's the best stolen
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: base option really right there, So like that's really how
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: he keeps I keep taking them there is because like
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: it's really tough to find it anybody else with that
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: type of eligibility that will pop thirty stolen bases and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: has a decent hard hit rate. So like, yeah, I can,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: but I do get the cell point, like, do not
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: like invest in him without having the pieces around him
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: to support it, because you can't count on the batting average,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: the power is going to be very middling. That you've
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: got to have the right build to be able to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: absorb some of those deficiencies of his.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into our prospects. Pick to click here.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: So Jordan who is yours.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Mine is going to be Gavin Cross there. He's a
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: non roster invitee for the team, as we've espoused earlier,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: and has been espoused multiple times. The outfield for the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Royals is pretty abysmal from a fantasy perspective.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: M J.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Melndez really has in shape to be what he thought
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: we thought he might be there, still running the corpse
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: of Hunter renfro Out in the outfield. I'm not super
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: excited about who they have on the major league roster
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: in terms of outfield talent across someone who used to
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: be really really highly touted. I feel like he's not
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: as not as in favor as he used to be,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: but he did still put up fifteen home runs and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: thirty stolen bases in four hundred and thirty six played
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: appearances last year in Double A, like he was still
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: really really solid, and that kind of like power speed
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: combo profile is something that I'd be interested in if
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: he ever gets the call up and anything like that. Obviously,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: it's something to track throughout spring training. If he's getting
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: at bats and he's performing well, he could put himself
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: in the conversation to be not necessarily on the opening
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: day roster, but someone that is in the pipeline to
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: be called up early if some of those established veterans
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: aren't performing snuff. So that's kind of where I'm at
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: with Gavin Cross. I feel like, obviously thirty stolen bases
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: is something that if you can get it super super
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: late and like a draft and hold, I'd be fine
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: taking a flyer on that.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this. So he was in my consideration
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: because of all those factors. Yeah, easy path to playing
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: time if he hits. So yeah, it's and should have
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: a profile to push fifteen, fifteen or twenty twenty that
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe the batting average will be a little
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: bit of a struggle, but hey, if you can give
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the other stuff for the price, can't complain. Keelan, who
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: are you picking here for the Royals?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So for.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: This one, I went with, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know how to say a name.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: Uh Jack Kaglia.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Known, Yeah you're Jack. Yeah, the Jack train.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, I am very much on that train. And I'm
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: gonna be honest.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: It's completely for a basic reason and that I love
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: that he's two a player.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: I think that's really cool.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: Excited to see how that turns out. And then I think,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: just in general thinking about long term, I mean, there's
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: just more opportunities for him there. So yeah, I mean
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: I think that's pretty obvious upside there.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: And the other part too that we can't forget is
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: that it would be the most Italian sounding baseball team
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: between him and past Quentino.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: I should have said that was my reason.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: If they don't promote him, it's anti Italian discrimination.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: Sponsoring.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: No, I'm so sorry. Yeah, he's also he's non roster
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: inviting that.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean I think with the I
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: don't know if they'll necessarily do much with the pitching,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: but that just gives more upside on the hitting that Like,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: if he's had to focus on having to develop his
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: pitching repertoire while he was at Florida, gets that time
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: to dedicate it to hitting, I think, yeah, you can
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: really see a nice breakout. And I think, given almost
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: like with this Gavin Cross thing too, there is a
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: path for Kagilion to move through this team very quickly. Okay,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: My buye for the prospects is it's Noah Cameron. So
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: this is a left handed pitcher in Triple A. Last
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: year he struck out ten point three k per nine
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: over his nine starts down there, And I don't know
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: if it's like something about Kauffman Stadium. But like we
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: were talking about Boo Bitch and Reagan's or if they
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: just have some sort of talent for developing South Pause.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: But I think you can take the easy over on
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: all of the projected k nines that they have for
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Cameron set up, they're all hovering around eight, which is
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: not what he has ever done at any stop in
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: the miners that I think he's got better stuff than that.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: He's got great control, So like, I think that's gonna
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: fast track him to the majors for this year. And yeah,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: I think he's the first guy up from their system
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: if there's any any sort of blip in terms of
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: injuries or anything else going on that rotation already on
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: the forty man roster, and honestly, maybe even might push
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: our boy Krispoo Bitch out of the rotation if he
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: pitches well enough in spring training and can capture that
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: fifth fifth spot in the rotation. So I love Noah Cameron,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: and I think that you know, easy stash, and especially
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: just given the track record that the Rows have had
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: with South Paul's over the past couple of years, lots
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: of upside there.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Get Y are hovering around three point one over almost
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty innings pitch last year between Triple
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: A and Double A. Uh No, I like this. I
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: like this a lot.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and solid ground ball right, not like the greatest,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: but you know he pitches in Coffin Stadium. Nobody can
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: flyballs COVID die. Okay, Well, let's move on to the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Twins, who I denigrated earlier with their just lack
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: of activity as they're kind of going through an ownership
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: change and just general chroma genness. And this is a
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: team that it's still shocking the way that they collapsed
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: last year. They looked like they were in it and
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: just could not sustain that going into September finished with
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: an eighty two and eighty record. Part of his Carl's
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: Korea broke down again at the end of the year.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Bryce Lewis still having trouble staying on the field. Brian
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Byron Buxton surprisingly was fairly healthy last year. Keelan, I know,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: you know this lineup very very well, because that is
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: all the Minnesota Twins really do. And so a couple
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: of outlets that I've seen possibly putting this team as
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: the favorite for the n L Central it's kind of
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: neck and neck with them in Cleveland. So they did
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: just sign Ty France recently and Harrison Bader, but otherwise
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: it's been pretty mum that they're pretty much rolling back
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: the same team that has filled them the past couple
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: of years and just going to see how it works out,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I guess. But with all that considered, Jordan, who are
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: you buying from the Minnesota Twins.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: I'm in on Griffin Jack's.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Yes. I love Gryffin Jacks a lot.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Just every underlying metric adores him. He's got a ton
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: of pitches that he can throw. I know there was
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of buzz early in the off season about
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: are they going to turn him into a starter, which
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: would be amazing you can still speculate on that. I
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: think he's probably just going to remain a bullpen arm
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: for them. But as we know, Minnesota Spins have had
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of struggles in terms of health, so perhaps
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: there is a timeline where someone that is currently slotted
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: to be a starter and that rotation gets hurt and
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: they end up having him make the transition at some point.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: And then also again, if Juan Duran gets hurt at
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: any point, Jax is going to be the one in
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: line for saves in that bullpen. So I really really
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: like Jax. The ratios are going to be really really solid. Yeah,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: stuff is amazing. It's been so fun to watch over
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: the past year.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been incredible, And I mean Duran was not
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: the stalwart that he had been the first couple of
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: years of his career. Of last year, that just overall
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: shakiness in terms of what you did not want to
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: see in a closer in terms of few blown saves,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: the case backed up a little bit, the left on
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: base rate backed up on him. That like it is,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: there were times where he was kind of pulled out
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: of that closer role and they brought Jackson a lot.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: That another kind of tweener for here here for you
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: in terms of like rotation reliever. But I like it.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: They're all like great picks in terms of I think
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: they've all got fancy value no matter where they fall
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: on their teams.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I very much have a type.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, igure Kelan who is yearby here for the twins.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I picked like a dang.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: I never noticed how much I don't know how to
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: say people's names until I actually have to say them.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: Allowed Trevor Larnac.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, this was one of Bruce guys too.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think just with the shifting situation there
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: with Max Kepler leaving and Alex krielof retiring, that's going
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: to open up a lot for him. So I think
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: strictly just by like the increased volume he's going to get,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: he might get slept on, maybe not as much anymore
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: as everybody's figuring that out. And then I mean last
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: year he was fine, so hopefully now this year he'll
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: bell have a little more playing time, so get those
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: stats up a little bit. So that was my choice
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: for that. A lot of that was because of just
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: the volume that's going to increase for him.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was a crazy good second half for
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Larnac as he put up a one thirty four WRC
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: plus really figured a lot of stuff out two seventy two,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: three sixty eight four to forty three slash line there.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I've always been on him, and it frustrates
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: me because Brew and I are in lots of leagues
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: and one of them we have an auto New League together,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: and I had Larnak forever, going back to like twenty twenty,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: and I would like cycle him in, off, in and
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: off my team as he was getting called off, called up.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: And then last year was the first year I've released
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: him into the pool for everyone to take him and
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: who picked him up?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Threw and then he was like this.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: So great pick. Brew also had a couple he loves
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: the twins. Apparently he also had penciled in Matt Wallner,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: who I think is a great pick here considering the
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: late power you can get out of him and a
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: little bit of a Joey gallow esque profile. But if
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: you're looking for somebody who's got a chance at forty
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: bombs late, probably Walner is your best pick. Bailey Obert.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell you how many times Brew
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: has talked about Bailey over on this podcast. He loves
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Bailey Obert to be, you know, a rotation anchor for
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Fantasy and especially just a great number two should push
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: forward with more and more volume by though, too, I'm
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: going with Jose Miranda here because we've talked about a
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: little bit. First Base is an absolute shit show that
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: like it is, especially late, it gets brutal, and Jose
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Miranda is still slated for a starting job. I'm not
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: scared of ty France for Miranda, and I mean, where
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Miranda is going in drafts is crazy, crazy late. I'm
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: looking at that ADP data since the beginning of the
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: year again going around pick three fifty in draft champions.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: Could pick up third base eligibility as well, but he
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: should just be a huge batting average asset. This is
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: a guy who set the record or tied the record
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: for most hits in consecutive plate appearances last year and
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: really had turned a corner in terms of the bad
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: ball profile, just showed a better ability to control the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: zone and make contact, and I think he's gonna do
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: shoot well beyond all those projections right now that kind
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: of put them at like a two sixty five to
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: two seventy batting average with like twelve homers and five
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: hundred dish plate appearances. But I think because the plate
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: appearances are light, I think Miranda does find his way
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: to full playing time and can kind of push something
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: like seventy five runs, seventy five ribies with fifteen homers
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: and a to seventy batting average. That's going to be
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: really valuable when it's all said and done. Considering how
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: crazy awful first base oddly is.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: I dig that one?
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's get into some cells then. So I
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: think there's also lots of selling opportunities on this Twins team.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Oddly it's a it's a team of both, lots of ups,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: lots of downs. Jordan will go to you first, who's yourself?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: I wrote one that I feel is kind of insane
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: based on how much HYPI as as a prospect right now.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: I actually went with a prospect weirdly enough, and that's.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Walker jenk Okay.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to be very good. Let me
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: let me start with that, But I also don't think
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: he is the ulfield prospect that I like the most
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: for the Twins, and I think now is a good
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: time to sell him in leagues if you think you
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: can get a good haul for him. That's kind of
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: where I'm at with him. I mean, the underlying data
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: looks great. The power has yet to show up, but
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: it's he's projected to be more to show more power
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: than he has so far. The bat to ball skills
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: are pretty decent. But yeah, I think now is probably
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: the time to sell him because I feel like this
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: is probably the highest his stock is going to be.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair just because I'm also looking
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: like I just told you the saga of Trevor Larnack.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Jenkins has a little bit more pedigree
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: to him than Larnack does, but I mean Larnack was
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: the first round pick as well, and the Twins do
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: seem to struggle with this type of kind of like
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: high draft pick profile outfield. Kepler was the same way
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: that I could see what you're saying in terms of
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: maybe it just takes longer to Jenkins for all formed
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: together than we might expect. Yeah, good pick. I like it, Kelan,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: who you selling from?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: The Twins got yelled at once for not yelled at.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: Can't get yelled in comments of ras Bull, but I
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: got it.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: I got certainly unnecessarily sternly worded message because I was
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: gloating about uh Roy Lewis May.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: It's sounded like that. Yeah, I think he was my
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: same pick last year for sale. I think.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: I want him to be good because he sounds like
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: he could be an awesome and we've seen.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: Him do well. It's really great.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: But I mean it is it's insane, like how much
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: he gets injured it is insane, And then how much
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: time he has spent out is insane, and I think
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: there is a kind of like sunk cost fallacy that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: people keep going with picking him, Like at a certain point,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: I hope it's not right, but I think just based
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: on the things it takes from him get injured and
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: how often it happens. Yeah, I still don't fill super
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: confident even with where he is now in ADP, so
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: still out on him.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair. This was definitely one of my
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: possible choices because I just don't think the price is
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: ever gonna drop low enough for me to ever take him. Yeah, okay,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: my cell here it pains me because this is one
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: of my favorite players currently in Major League Baseball. It's
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Billy Castro. I love the profile with the switch hit,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: the utility man. It's just like the most classic, like
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: can do everything on a baseball field. But the price
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: has gotten just way too high for me. Now you know,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: he's going right around pick like two thirty ish in
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: So it's just I love the eligibilities, but the projections
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: are just real heavy on this profile as he's coming
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: off of a career high in plate appearances and games
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: last year and he's currently slated to hit leadoff. I
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: just don't know if he sticks in that leadoff spot.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: And then once you start moving him down the lineup,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: you have to start peeling away the runs from the profile.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: You start peeling away the plate appearances that peels away
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: the homers and the stolen bases are a little bit inflated,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: because like he had that season with thirty three stolen
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: bases in twenty twenty three, but only fourteen last year.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if he kind of pushes it
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: much beyond fifteen again, given the importance of him to
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: this roster overall. So it's just I love him, but
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: like I said, the stats and everything are just a
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: little bit too bloated for me here on Willie castro.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: He is someone I love dearly as someone who is
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: like very aggressively cromulent and it has multiposition eligibility. He's
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: someone who kind of can just fit in anywhere on
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: a roster, which is always nice. But yeah, I mean,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of in the same boat. I feel like
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: we've seen the ceiling. It's nice, but the price is
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: just too much right now. So I like that one
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: a not too.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's get into the picks to click on
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Twins. Who are you gonna go with here, Jordan.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: I'm going with Emmanuel Rodriguez.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: Oh is that when you picked too, Kielan? Yeah, let's go.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: We got on the same page eventually. So the one
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: thing that I really love about Emmanuel Rodriguez is just
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: the absurd walk rates that he's put up. He's walked
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: it over twenty percent pretty much every single season that
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: he's played so far in the minors. Across four different levels.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: He had a combined twenty four point four percent walk
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: rate last year. He does strike out a lot compared
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: to someone like Walker Jenkins twenty nine point seven across
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: four levels last year, but again to eighty average four
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: fifty nine OBP and a OPS of over one thousand,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: two hundred. Total plate appearance is basically nine home runs,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: nine stolen bases, good power speed, combo gets on base
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: a butt load. Uh. And with how injury prone that
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: team has been, there's a good chance that we could
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: see Emmanuel Rodriguez making his debut next year. And just
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: like the power projection and the current value of him
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: as a player just projects to be like a very
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: interesting power bat. I'm not thinking that he's going to
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: hit for two to eighty in the majors. He'll probably
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: be like a two thirty, two to forty type bat.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: But he's the type of guy who could absolutely hit
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: thirty plus homers if he gets full playing time. So
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of in on him.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Is that your take? Two kilan?
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not going to be able to
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: say anything better than you just did, so I'll add
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: a funny note to what he said. Just when I
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: was looking up stats and stuff, uh, I came across
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: an article in Baseball in America where there's a quote
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: that says Rodriguez's thys or the size of it's Smiths,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: Baldelli said, in reference to the NFL's all time leading rusher.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: After watching Rodriguez crush a long spring training he will run
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: against All Star closer Craig Kimberl a year ago.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: He's a tank.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: I was just like, all right, I didn't expect to
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: read about thighs like right off the bat, but gotta
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: love it.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: Gotta love thighs, and I believe that people at Baseball
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: America are thigh posting.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: On Maine, there's thigh posting happening and it supports our claims.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I love this pick because especially I think
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: that this is part of the reason the Twins were
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: kind of mum again this offseason, is that if Buxton
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: goes down or if Wallner struggles at all, I think
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez is up immediately hit triple A last year, They're
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: ready to catch lightning in a bottle here. Okay, it's
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: my turn to not know how to pronounce somebody's name,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: so I can do the first one. My pick here
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: is Luke, and I think it's Keishel So yeah, currently
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: a utility man for the Twins. I just love this profile,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: like it's right handed Brendan Donovan with steals for me
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: that I think this is a guy who can hit,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: you know, to eighty ish in the majors, with you know,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: mid teens homers and something like twenty stolen bases. Just
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: his ability to play second, short, third, outfield. They're gonna
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: find a spot for him going into twenty twenty five. Here,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: he did have a Tommy John late last year or
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: like a brace internal brace, which it sounds like he
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: is full go going into spring from what I've read,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that doesn't hold him back, but even
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: if it is, I think that might just reduce this
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: price enough where I mean, this guy who his lowest
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: WRC plus coming up through the miners is one thirty
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: two back in complex ball in twenty twenty three, He's
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: just hit everywhere he's gone. All of the reports in
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: terms of like his makeup are fantastic. He just seems
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: like kind of a classic ballplayer. And so I think
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: this is exactly kind of what the Twins need to
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: solidify this lineup. And just given the myriad of injuries
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: that they've dealt with, then we've kind of harped on
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: many times. I think Luke kishel comes up fills in
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: some of those gaps. And also maybe a little bit
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: why I'm worried about Willie Castro going forward is because
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Teachel's coming for his job pretty quick. All right, But
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: we did it, We got through all the AL Central.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: Who we picking to win this division? This one might
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: be the most up for grabs other than maybe the
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: NL Central, So Jordan, who would be your pick here
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: to win it?
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty in on the Tigers. Okay, I'm very in
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: on the Tiger. I think that their clear favorites in
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: my mind, I know that projections are varied, and like
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: the Twins a lot. The Twins are so heavily dependent
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: on health, with a lot of players that we know
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: are not always the most healthy. There's gonna be a
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: revolving door in a lot of different positions there if
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: they can piece it together. I think that talent wise,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: they're probably a slightly better team than the Tigers, But
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: I do like the Tigers in terms of both pitching
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: staff and bullpen. I think it's going to carry them
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: quite far. So I like the Tigers.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: I like it. How about you, Keeling?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: I also like the Tigers.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: I think I picked them last year and they were
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: pretty terrible a lot of the season, and then they
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: turned it around, so I'll go with it again.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: I also just want it to happen.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they're a fun team, and I mean Tiger's
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: gears goes hard. Yeah, I'm going with the Royals here.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: So I do think that they figure out the outfield.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: I think the pitching staff is amongst the best in
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: the league, and then from there the bullpen gets figured
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: out and never going to count out Bobby Wood Junior.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: So I like the royals going into twenty twenty five.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: It's good, all right, Well let's wrap it up. So Jordan,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: let everybody know once again where they can find you,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: read your work and reach out to you in socials.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: If you want to reach out to me via socials,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: you can find me on LinkedIn. No, I'm just kidding.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: You can find me on Blue Sky at bunt singles
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: b U n T s I n g l e S.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty much exclusively there. I've deleted mostly everything else,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: so you can find me there. And then writing wise,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: maybe some rascall stuff. This year, I'm going to probably
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: bop around to a couple of different places whenever the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: mood strikes, maybe make some other podcast appearances. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: You can check out my socials and probably see it
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  Speaker 2: there if I ever do anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're welcome back here. It was great to
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: have you, Jordan and Blast talking the Ale Central with you. Keilan,
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  Speaker 1: let everybody know where they can find you in socials
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  Speaker 1: and read your old post maybe.
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  Speaker 3: By old posts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so I am on Blue Sky. It is
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  Speaker 4: Keelan twelve foot, It's k E E l I N
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  Speaker 4: one two F T and yeah I am I'm taking
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  Speaker 4: a break from ras ball. I was doing Ambulance Chasers,
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  Speaker 4: but that's it. That's a really good hands now, so
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's exciting, but yeah, I'm still hanging
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  Speaker 4: around with rasball and yeah, I'll be I'll be around.
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  Speaker 3: You'll see me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, and you're you're in the
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  Speaker 1: lead spot for guest appearances on this pod. You're up
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  Speaker 1: to three, so you're the all time leader in the
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  Speaker 1: clubhouse right now. We'll keep that up for you really. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll miss all of your testicle related posts though this summer,
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: And it's gonna kill me when when one comes up
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, ah, dang, I can't, can't riff on
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  Speaker 4: somebody's ball injury.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be here for an emergency pod if you
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: want one, all right, And yeah, you can find me
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: blue Sky at mcool seven and you can also find
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: the podcast there on blue Sky at cards categories or
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: email the podcast at cards categories at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said at the top of the show, check
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: out rasball dot com for all sorts of great subscriptions
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: to get you through your twenty twenty five fantasy season.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Click on that in the show notes. You can also
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: get some cards and categories gear. We've got t shirts, mugs, hats,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: and still think it's that baby onesie. I don't think
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: we've sold one, but it's there in case you ever
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: want a baby onesie with a podcast logo for cards
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: and categories on it. So certainly check those things out
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: in the show notes. And we are going to wrap
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: up the al Central next week. We're gonna be back
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: with NL Central, so we're going across the centrals, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll see you same time, same place next week. Thanks everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Mi