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The Rita Panahi Show | 29 October · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scoring lis Oustodio.
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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panicky Show coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. Did Anthony Albn easy breach the Minister or
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Speaker 3: quote of conduct seeking flight upgrades? Just how much trouble
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Speaker 3: is the Prime Minister? In a special guest joins me
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Speaker 3: tonight before the first ad break, the Great Matt Walsh,
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Speaker 3: the man behind ground breaking documentaries What is a Woman?
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Speaker 3: And am I Racist? Last time I had him on
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Speaker 3: the show, the video had around five million views on
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Speaker 3: YouTube alone. You don't want to miss that. We'll look
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Speaker 3: at the deranged manor MSNBC covered the Trump rally at
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Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden and talking about left is losing it. Well,
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Speaker 3: we've got plenty of broken celebrities for you tonight, including
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Speaker 3: Robert de Niro. But first, the Prime Minister's relationship with
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Speaker 3: former Quantus CEO Alan Joyce is under scrutiny yet again,
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Speaker 3: in light of further revelations that between two thousand and
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Speaker 3: seven to twenty nineteen, during his tenure as a Transport
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Speaker 3: Minister and Shadow Transport Minister, he personally solicited twenty two
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Speaker 3: free Quantus flight upgrades worth tens of thousands of dollars.
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Speaker 3: Now there is conjecture about whether that constitutes a breach
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Speaker 3: of the Ministerial Code of Conduct that were in place
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Speaker 3: from December two thousand and seven onwards, which bans ministers
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Speaker 3: from seeking or encouraging any form of gift in their
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Speaker 3: personal capacity. Anthony Albanesi was Transport Minister under both Rudd
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Speaker 3: and Gillard between two thousand and seven and twenty and thirteen,
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Speaker 3: and the standards of ministerial ethics were first released by
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Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd in two thousand and seven, adopted by Julia
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Speaker 3: Gillard in twenty ten, and the rules are really quite clear.
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Speaker 4: They state ministers are required to exercise the functions of
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Speaker 4: their public office unaffected by considerations of personal advantage or disadvantage.
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Speaker 4: Ministers in their official capacity may therefore accept customary official gifts,
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Speaker 4: hospitality tokens of appreciation, and similar formal gestures in accordance
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Speaker 4: with the relevant guidelines. But and it's a big butt,
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Speaker 4: must not seek or encourage any form of gift in
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Speaker 4: their personal capacity. Journalist Joe Aston has published these sensational
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Speaker 4: claims in his new book called The Chairman's Lounge, The
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Speaker 4: insights Story of how quantus sold us out here. He
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Speaker 4: is on the ABC last night explaining why these allegations
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Speaker 4: are so serious.
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Speaker 5: To solicit upgrades when you are on private travel and
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Speaker 5: you are the Minister for Transport regulating the airline industry,
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Speaker 5: to approach the CEO of the national airline to ask
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Speaker 5: to have your economy ticket magically turned into a point
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Speaker 5: end ticket, it's just inappropriate conduct, whether or not it's
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Speaker 5: declared or not. If Anthony Alberzi had to have been
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Speaker 5: Financial Services Minister and had called the CEO of a
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Speaker 5: bank and said would you please put fifty thousand dollars
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Speaker 5: in my bank account and then disclose it on the
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Speaker 5: Pecuniary Interest Register, I certainly don't think anyone would be
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Speaker 5: sitting around saying, oh, well, he declared it, that's fine.
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi has snapped back at reporters today when pressed
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Speaker 3: on these allegations.
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Speaker 6: I have shared very clearly that I recall direct discussions
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Speaker 6: with Alan Joyce over over the flights the Emirates or
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Speaker 6: Quanish flight to Dubai and of course the first flight
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Speaker 6: to Perth. They're the only times that I was on
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Speaker 6: a plane with Alan Joyce. Of the twenty two flights,
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Speaker 6: ten of them doing the leadership ballot between myself and
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Speaker 6: Bill Shorten in twenty thirteen.
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Speaker 3: He also told reporters on Sunday that from time to
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Speaker 3: time members of Parliament receive upgrades. What's important is that
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Speaker 3: they are declared. All of mine have been declared. But
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Speaker 3: that claim has also been questioned, with an exclusive story
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Speaker 3: in the Australian Financial Review revealing that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: failed to declare thousands of dollars worth of business class
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Speaker 3: flight upgrades that he secured for his former wife. The
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Speaker 3: Opposition has used the allegations to call for a fresh
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Speaker 3: Senate inquiry into Contus's relationship with the government and of
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Speaker 3: Alan Joyce and Anthony Alberese's relationship in particular. Joining me
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Speaker 3: now for more on this as News Corps senior writer
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Speaker 3: and columnist Patrick Carline, Patrick, this scandal is growing. Doesn't
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Speaker 3: seem to pass the pop test. The Prime Minister looks
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Speaker 3: entitled here. He certainly seems a little bit out of touch.
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Speaker 3: And you've got question is judgment.
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Speaker 7: The optics are terrible. I think this story, as you've suggested,
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Speaker 7: is just starting. It's going to get worse and worse
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Speaker 7: and worse for alban Easy. I think we're looking at
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Speaker 7: that press conference today, he's been very unconvincing in his responses.
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Speaker 7: The devil is in the detail, as Joe Aston was
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Speaker 7: saying there before. Was he Transport Minister and was he
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Speaker 7: soliciting Allen Joyce personally to get benefits well Quantas personally.
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Speaker 3: Whether you know, if you're in the chairman's lounge, you
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Speaker 3: probably have got a special phone number you can call
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Speaker 3: where you get very good service.
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Speaker 8: That's right.
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Speaker 3: No, certainly Platinum members have access to a different phone line.
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Speaker 3: So even if it wasn't going directly to Joyce, if
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Speaker 3: it was going to anybody at Quantas are seeking this upgrade.
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Speaker 7: It stinks. It really does stink. As you said, it
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Speaker 7: doesn't pass the pub test, and it's going to get worse.
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Speaker 7: And I think it's going to be a distraction for
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Speaker 7: the government for weeks. I suspect, and I think if
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Speaker 7: you jump three steps ahead, you might actually be wondering
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Speaker 7: whether the ALP wants Antony alban Easy to lead the
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Speaker 7: party into the next election. I mean, it's just distraction
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Speaker 7: after distraction.
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Speaker 3: Well, the sense of entitlement that it portrays also is
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Speaker 3: really quite ugly because it just shows he's completely out
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Speaker 3: of touch with the average Australian Now. I was amused
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Speaker 3: to see this analysis from the ABC. The reporter Tom
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Speaker 3: Lowry wrote that Quantus's infamous Chairman's lounger just offered a
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Speaker 3: quiet place to wait for your next flight. He wrote,
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Speaker 3: the lounges themselves are apparently not all that interesting. They're
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Speaker 3: a comfortable airline lounge with enough room for a private
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Speaker 3: conversation or a quiet space to work. Club sandwiches and
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Speaker 3: salt and pepper squid are on the menu. Patrick, that
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Speaker 3: sounds like the musings of a man who has never
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Speaker 3: been in the Chairman's Lounge. Let me tell you, comparing
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Speaker 3: it to a regular business lounge is like comparing a
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Speaker 3: Battle of Grange to cask wine. It is a special thing.
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Speaker 3: And should Quantus be able to use the Chairman's lounge,
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Speaker 3: every MP gets membership to essentially an influenced buying exercise,
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Speaker 3: isn't it?
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Speaker 7: That's right? Look up it in the Chairman's lounge once.
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Speaker 7: I think in my life I was with two very
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Speaker 7: public figures. I looked around the room and I was
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Speaker 7: the most anonymous person in the room by mile. It
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Speaker 7: is very important. Look it is a space where very
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Speaker 7: powerful people will meet. It is very good for networking.
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Speaker 7: It is very good for seeing people and talking about
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Speaker 7: things privately in a way that does sort of bring
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Speaker 7: it does get brought in the question, doesn't it? I mean,
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Speaker 7: it sounds too cozy, It sounds way too cozy.
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Speaker 3: And the experience is just so much superior to what
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Speaker 3: else is out there, and so exclusive invitation only, and
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Speaker 3: it must have an impact. But Quantus wouldn't be spending
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Speaker 3: that money and they wouldn't have that sort of large
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Speaker 3: ess for no influence, for no power. There must be
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Speaker 3: a payback more along the way.
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Speaker 7: And you look at what happened to Qatar Air last year.
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Speaker 7: They wanted to bring more flights in that. I'm not
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Speaker 7: sure where the truth lies, but it looks bad, doesn't it.
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Speaker 7: The perception is that it's too cozy, and it's been
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Speaker 7: cozy for a very long time.
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Speaker 3: And is that pop test we talked about again, exactly,
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Speaker 3: Passer Patrick Carline, thank you so much for your time
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Speaker 3: this evening. Now, my next guest has been at the
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Speaker 3: forefront of challenging the left's relentless culture wars. He's had
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Speaker 3: enormous success and exposing just how extreme and dangerous this
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Speaker 3: movement has become, but also how completely vacuous it is.
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Speaker 3: His documentaries, including the brilliant What Is a Woman, have
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Speaker 3: achieved huge commercial success and they have also opened the
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Speaker 3: eyes of many to what is being pushed in the
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Speaker 3: name of diversity, inclusion and equity. Let's have a look
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Speaker 3: at his latest groundbreaking work, Am I Racist?
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Speaker 1: Let's be clear what's happening in this country to Nazism.
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Speaker 8: Republicans are Nazis.
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Speaker 1: You cannot separate yourselves from the bad waite people.
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Speaker 9: Is because I said I had seventeen black friends, it
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Speaker 9: might have been fifteen. It depends on how you count them.
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Speaker 8: Am I Racist? I would really appreciate it if you laugh.
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Speaker 8: I'm trying to learn on this journey. Can you please leave.
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Speaker 8: I'm going to sort this out. I need to go
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Speaker 8: deeper undercover, so I want to be an ally. I
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Speaker 8: need to look like well.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is the man behind Am I Racist?
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Speaker 3: I certified? Matt Walsh. Matt, firstly, congratulations on the success
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Speaker 3: of this film. It's clever, it's funny, really funny, and
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Speaker 3: it's been hugely successful at the box office. After only
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. It was the highest grossing documentary
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Speaker 3: of the Year, despite the fact that critics refused to
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Speaker 3: review the film.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right, it was. You know, it's I'm
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Speaker 9: not sure. I don't know if we keep track of
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Speaker 9: this kind of thing, but I think it's probably one
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Speaker 9: of the only films that had a wide release theatrically
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Speaker 9: and debuted top five of the box office and yet
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Speaker 9: was not reviewed by a single mainstream film critic.
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Speaker 8: And you know it was.
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Speaker 9: It was in theaters for four or five, six weeks
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Speaker 9: and never got those reviews. Now it's on Deli wire
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Speaker 9: dot com streaming, so everybody can see it after they've
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Speaker 9: become members.
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Speaker 8: And through this whole run.
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Speaker 9: Still the mainstream film critics are basically trying to pretend
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Speaker 9: that the movie doesn't exist.
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Speaker 8: Which is which? Which is which? Is interesting to me?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And if you're interested in US politics, if you're
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Speaker 3: interested in the culture wars at all, the Daily Wire
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Speaker 3: is a subscription to have. Certainly, Now, the film may
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Speaker 3: have been stopped by critics, but the viewers have given
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Speaker 3: it a ninety seven percent rating, which is enormous. That's
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Speaker 3: to say rating The Godfather Part two has the best one. Now, Matt,
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Speaker 3: tell me about your transformation from conservative, white, heteronormative man
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Speaker 3: the enemy if you will have it to the certified
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Speaker 3: DEI expert complete with and Bonnie, were you treated differently
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Speaker 3: after this transformation and how did so many fall for
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Speaker 3: these ruse?
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Speaker 8: I want to treat it differently.
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Speaker 9: You know, I got the actual certification and it's they
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Speaker 9: give you a little card. They mailed it to me,
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Speaker 9: and I found that that card opens a lot of doors.
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Speaker 9: I mean literally opens a lot of doors. And I
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Speaker 9: think it's because on the left they are very careful
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Speaker 9: about who they engage with. I think they're aware that
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Speaker 9: a lot of their ideas are just don't don't stand
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Speaker 9: up to scrutiny, and in particular the race hustlers, the
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Speaker 9: DEI con artists who pushed this stuff, I mean they know,
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Speaker 9: I think they know at some level that their ideas
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Speaker 9: are utterly vacuous and shallow and fragile and fall apart
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Speaker 9: under the slightest scrutiny. So what we discovered this is
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Speaker 9: pretty simple, is as long as you present yourself as
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Speaker 9: someone who is not going to challenge them, as someone
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Speaker 9: who is, as they would say, safe, then they'll they'll
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Speaker 9: welcome you with open arms and more importantly, and this
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Speaker 9: is what we wanted to bring out in the film.
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Speaker 8: They'll just be honest, They'll they'll tell you what they.
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Speaker 9: Actually think, and they'll behave in the ways that they
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Speaker 9: would actually behave in real life. And that's what we
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Speaker 9: wanted to bring out in the film. That's why we
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Speaker 9: approach it the way we did, where I'm you know,
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Speaker 9: where I am presenting myself as someone who agrees with
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Speaker 9: them and is just eager to learn more and kind
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Speaker 9: of putting their ideas into practice. We wanted the audience
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Speaker 9: to be able to see, you know, if you take
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Speaker 9: these ideas seriously and if you put them into practice, this.
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Speaker 8: Is where it leads.
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Speaker 9: We wanted it to kind of build and build and
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Speaker 9: build and get weirder and weirder as the movie goes on,
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Speaker 9: so that by the end of it you can you
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Speaker 9: can see that, like this, this leads to some pretty
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Speaker 9: dark places.
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Speaker 8: Oh it does.
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Speaker 3: It's disturbing on a number of fronts, but the way
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Speaker 3: you do it is so entertaining and funny. Let's hear
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Speaker 3: now from one of these so called anti racist educators
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Speaker 3: who is troubled by her own four year old liking
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Speaker 3: white Disney princesses, princesses. She sees that as a failing.
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Speaker 3: But then she will also saw an issue with your
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Speaker 3: three year old daughter wanting to dress up like a
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Speaker 3: Polynesian princess.
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Speaker 10: My daughter's four years old. I am an anti racist educator,
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Speaker 10: quote unquote. She's still watching Disney movies and she is
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Speaker 10: choosing a white princess over princesses of color.
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Speaker 9: Have you talked to her about that all the time?
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Speaker 9: My three year old daughter is her favorite princess is Molana. Well,
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Speaker 9: it's a good sign. Yeah, But then I also thought,
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Speaker 9: you know, there's a little bit of cultural appropriation here.
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Speaker 8: She wants to be Malana for Halloween.
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Speaker 11: M h.
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Speaker 8: So how do we navigate that?
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Speaker 9: Do I go and buy the Pacific Islander native attire
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Speaker 9: from my white three year old?
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Speaker 8: I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
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Speaker 3: Matt. Were you shocked to learn that your three year
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Speaker 3: old daughter is inherently racist?
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Speaker 8: I was. I was very troubled.
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Speaker 9: And you know, I got to tell you it's even
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Speaker 9: worse that it sounds in that clip, because earlier that
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Speaker 9: in the same conversation, I talked to her about my
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Speaker 9: my I have six month old twins that they were
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Speaker 9: six months old at the time when we were filming it,
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Speaker 9: and I said, you know, do do I need to
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Speaker 9: when do I need to start talking to the babies
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Speaker 9: about their racism? And she told me that, you know,
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Speaker 9: you need to start talking to them now, like before
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Speaker 9: they can talk. So and the thing is, you listen
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Speaker 9: to these ideas and it sounds crazy.
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Speaker 8: It is crazy.
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Speaker 9: We laugh at it, and we should laugh at it
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Speaker 9: because it's totally absurd, but it's also you know, it's
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Speaker 9: also quite quite dangerous, and especially when you consider that,
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Speaker 9: you know, maybe to you and me, we hear a
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Speaker 9: three year old as racist for liking Mohana, and we
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Speaker 9: kind of recognize it as inherently absurd.
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Speaker 8: But there are a lot of people who who who.
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Speaker 9: Don't recognize it as absurd, and they fall into this
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Speaker 9: and they're brainwashed by it.
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Speaker 8: And that's another thing that.
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Speaker 9: We try to bring out in the film.
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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, And you see that right now with Halloween
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Speaker 3: in a couple of days away, the way people are
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Speaker 3: twisting themselves into notts, trying to figure out what's offensive
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Speaker 3: and being offended on behalf of others. Often now tell
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Speaker 3: me about working as a waiter undercover at a dinner
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Speaker 3: hosted by two of the worst grifters in this space,
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Speaker 3: Regina Jackson and Saara Reyo. They charge silly white women
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Speaker 3: enormous amounts of money to basically abuse them over a meal.
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Speaker 1: It was a miserable experience. And really, the hatred of
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Speaker 1: yourselves and each other is like the most the naziing
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Speaker 1: your power, the being a freid. Like all you do
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Speaker 1: is talk about each other, talking about yourself.
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Speaker 8: My god, that's that's fad. That's all they do. I'll
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Speaker 8: tell you he's a white woman, but that's it.
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Speaker 1: I'm so fat, I'm so stupid. I'm blah blah blah. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: your kids are watching you.
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Speaker 3: The self loathing among white, liberal, affluent women. Tell me
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Speaker 3: about this because it's a phenomenon that's evident here in Australia.
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Speaker 3: I believe it's evident in parts of Europe and certainly
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Speaker 3: in America, where they are leaning overwhelmingly left and they
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Speaker 3: seem to have some very strange ideas about things that
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Speaker 3: should feel great guilt over, even if they've committed no sin.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's I mean, it's an epidemic.
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Speaker 9: And right now in America we have our first DEI
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Speaker 9: presidential Candada Kamala Harris, who's sort of trying to write
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Speaker 9: this this kind of confusion and guilt into the White House.
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Speaker 9: And we'll see if it works or if it doesn't.
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Speaker 9: But the fact is that what you saw on the
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Speaker 9: clip there called Race to Dinner, it's a real thing.
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Speaker 9: Everything in the movie is real, and there's there's a
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Speaker 9: there's a reason why grifters like cyber Row are able
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Speaker 9: to make a living, a pretty good living. I mean,
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Speaker 9: they these these women, these white women, pay thousands of
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Speaker 9: dollars to sit around a dinner table for two hours
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Speaker 9: and have these other two women call them racist. And
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Speaker 9: you know, I was in the room, as you could see.
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Speaker 9: I had to I had to come as a waiter
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Speaker 9: because I wasn't invited to the table because I'm not
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Speaker 9: a woman. But but I I saw this kind of
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Speaker 9: brainwashing session firsthand, and.
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Speaker 8: It is it's brutal. I mean, it's ruthless.
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Speaker 9: These women were getting torn down, uh and just eviscerated,
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Speaker 9: torn apart, and convinced that they were they were racist. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 9: you know, I'm I'm listening to it, and the women
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Speaker 9: at the table, they obviously have lots of issues that
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Speaker 9: they need to work through. But none of them are racist.
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Speaker 9: That's they don't have to worry about being racist. They're
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Speaker 9: definitely not racist. Uh, but they're convinced that they are,
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Speaker 9: and then they kind of are told that they have
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Speaker 9: to go to these these Dei grifters who are sort
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Speaker 9: of the high priestesses of the Dei cult for absolution.
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Speaker 9: You know, it's it comes as almost religious like cult.
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Speaker 3: Now, the highlight of the film for many viewers was
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Speaker 3: your masterful at dismantling of the queen of critical race
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Speaker 3: theory d I queen herself, Robin DiAngelo, the author of
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Speaker 3: white Fragility, and you managed to get her to pay
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Speaker 3: reparations to your black producer. What do you say to
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Speaker 3: those who say you engaged in dishonest methods to expose
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Speaker 3: someone like DiAngelo? You embarrassed her. Are you guilty of
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Speaker 3: punching down Matt, No, I don't think.
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Speaker 8: So at all.
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Speaker 9: Listen, you know, this movie has drawn comparisons to Borat,
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Speaker 9: and I think that, I mean, there are some comparisons there,
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Speaker 9: and I'm flattered by the comparisons because Borat's a hilarious film.
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Speaker 9: But in movies like that and other occasions where Hollywood
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Speaker 9: films have taken a similar approach.
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Speaker 8: They oftentimes they really do punch down.
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Speaker 9: I mean they are embarrassing normal Americans or just living
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Speaker 9: their lives.
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Speaker 8: In our case, we are looking.
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Speaker 9: To expose people who are, you know, make thousands of
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Speaker 9: dollars off this or millions.
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Speaker 8: They sell books, they have PhDs, they you know.
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Speaker 9: They consult with Fortune five hundred companies, and and those
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Speaker 9: are the people we're looking to expose. And the thing is,
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Speaker 9: you know, it's really there were no dishonest methods because
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Speaker 9: the only method really was and you'll see it if
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Speaker 9: you watch the whole movie and you watch that whole scene.
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Speaker 9: The only method is just me giving her the opportunity
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Speaker 9: to live according to her own principles. And we didn't
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Speaker 9: force her to do anything. She does ultimately pay reparations
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Speaker 9: spoiler alert, But we didn't.
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Speaker 8: Force her to do it.
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Speaker 9: She could have just said no and refused, and that
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Speaker 9: would have been it, and then she would not have
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Speaker 9: embarrassed herself. She wouldn't be embarrassed in the scene. So
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Speaker 9: if Robindy Angelo walks away from that feeling embarrassed, and
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Speaker 9: I think now she does, she's you know, she's she
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Speaker 9: has deleted all of her social media accounts and everything.
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Speaker 9: She seems to be embarrassed, But she did that to herself.
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Speaker 9: We didn't do that, I'm afraid to say.
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Speaker 3: And you're right, this isn't punching down in any sy
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Speaker 3: of the word, because these are very powerful, influential people,
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Speaker 3: not just becoming rich out of this Dei grift you
20:08
Speaker 3: may call it, but just having enormous influence on the
20:12
Speaker 3: working lives of everyday people. DeAngelo, for example, does all
20:17
Speaker 3: sorts of training with the top corporations, teaching them some
20:22
Speaker 3: of this philosophy, and then those employees are obliged to
20:26
Speaker 3: at least pretend to practice that in their working lives.
20:32
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right, we ask her. Also in the
20:36
Speaker 9: film you know who does? Who has she worked with?
20:38
Speaker 9: And she starts listing off big, you know, big corporations.
20:42
Speaker 9: And the interesting thing too in the film is that
20:44
Speaker 9: you could see her turn to off camera to one
20:47
Speaker 9: of our producers and say, well, well, should I say
20:48
Speaker 9: this out loud? She was actually a little bit she
20:50
Speaker 9: was unsure of whether she should reveal that detail or not.
20:53
Speaker 8: But the fact is that these people have a lot
20:56
Speaker 8: of power.
20:57
Speaker 9: They have you know, when you've got hr companies at
21:02
Speaker 9: the biggest corporations in the world. Treating your ideology as
21:07
Speaker 9: gospel and forcing employees to affirm it. Well, that's that's
21:12
Speaker 9: you know, when it comes to cultural power, it doesn't
21:13
Speaker 9: get more powerful than that. And that's exactly what we're
21:17
Speaker 9: trying to trying to expose.
21:20
Speaker 3: Now, I've got to ask you one question about the election.
21:23
Speaker 3: Race is becoming a big issue. The Democrats are determined
21:26
Speaker 3: to make it a big issue. Will it play a
21:29
Speaker 3: part in determining who is the next president of the
21:32
Speaker 3: United States?
21:36
Speaker 8: I don't know, you know, I it's hard for me.
21:39
Speaker 9: Every time I've tried to make a political prediction, I've
21:41
Speaker 9: always been wrong. So I'm trying to show some restraint
21:45
Speaker 9: and not predict anything. I think that, you know, there
21:48
Speaker 9: are a lot of signs to me that are very
21:49
Speaker 9: positive for Trump right now. And even on the race issue,
21:53
Speaker 9: I think a lot of the polls are showing that
21:55
Speaker 9: the attempts by the Kamala campaign to gin up racial
21:59
Speaker 9: resent men and all of that has kind of backfired,
22:02
Speaker 9: and she's seems to be losing support, especially among black
22:05
Speaker 9: men in particular. And that's that's that's not a surprise.
22:10
Speaker 9: And and and you know, but she's trying to use
22:14
Speaker 9: not just the racial grievances, but also the gender grievances.
22:18
Speaker 9: This is a this is a whole campaign built on
22:21
Speaker 9: basically left wing victimology. Uh, and she's going to try
22:26
Speaker 9: to ride it all the way into the White House there.
22:29
Speaker 9: But there are a lot of I think, very positive
22:31
Speaker 9: signs right now that a strategy is not working for
22:36
Speaker 9: her as well as she thought.
22:37
Speaker 8: But you know, we'll see in a few days.
22:41
Speaker 3: Now. Just finally, this is a trend that I've noticed,
22:45
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you've noticed too, that the demand for
22:48
Speaker 3: racism in America seems to outweigh the supply, which might
22:52
Speaker 3: explain the racist hoaxes we have seen the hate crime hoaxes,
22:56
Speaker 3: from the basic racist graffiti hoaxes to the more complicated
23:02
Speaker 3: Jess Smollett production that we had. But the media is
23:06
Speaker 3: always so eager to swallow up and blow up any
23:10
Speaker 3: allegation of racism. And I want to just have a
23:12
Speaker 3: look at one case that you featured in your film.
23:16
Speaker 12: The popular Kids amusement park apologized after a video wind
23:19
Speaker 12: viral that appeared that you're a costume character snubbing two
23:22
Speaker 12: black girls.
23:23
Speaker 13: Okay, you see the character coming high fiving everybody as
23:26
Speaker 13: it goes down the street.
23:27
Speaker 11: Gouse.
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Speaker 7: So those two little girls, it appears to just.
23:30
Speaker 8: Flat out say no.
23:30
Speaker 13: And you see the little girls and their faces.
23:32
Speaker 8: And who's in that costume.
23:35
Speaker 14: I think that person needs to be, you know, a
23:37
Speaker 14: health accountable.
23:38
Speaker 3: Fired and helped to announmally fire Well.
23:41
Speaker 14: Before you fire them, teach them why they're being fired.
23:44
Speaker 8: I can't let them go.
23:47
Speaker 3: Oh, you can always rely on the ladies of the
23:50
Speaker 3: view to be completely unhinged about everything. Just last month,
23:54
Speaker 3: the case concluded Sesame Street one, the twenty five million
23:59
Speaker 3: lawsuit was has failed. But Matt, why is there this
24:05
Speaker 3: eagerness in the media amongst the activist class too to
24:10
Speaker 3: push any claim of racism, no matter how fanci all
24:14
Speaker 3: and that just Smallett one that was so absurd on
24:18
Speaker 3: the face of it, and yet everyone from Kamala Harris
24:21
Speaker 3: down believed it.
24:25
Speaker 8: Yeah.
24:25
Speaker 9: I think it's because when you've got a lot of
24:28
Speaker 9: racial resentment and racial guilt and suspicion and all of
24:33
Speaker 9: that in society, people are much it's much easier to
24:38
Speaker 9: manipulate and control people. It's it's it's a tool that
24:42
Speaker 9: people in power, the cultural forces, you know, in our
24:45
Speaker 9: society use to control and manipulate and and that's why
24:51
Speaker 9: they want to that's why they always want to like
24:53
Speaker 9: find more reasons to accuse people of racism. They need
24:56
Speaker 9: to convince people either that they are racist or that
25:00
Speaker 9: they're the victims of racism, which.
25:02
Speaker 8: Is also why they tell you that.
25:03
Speaker 9: And we hear this in the film too, that hey,
25:05
Speaker 9: if you you know, if you say that you're not
25:07
Speaker 9: racist as a white person, if you claim you're not racist,
25:10
Speaker 9: and that's that's just all the more evidence that actually
25:12
Speaker 9: you are. So becomes this unfalsifiable claim. And the people
25:17
Speaker 9: that are turning it into it on falsifiable claim, you know,
25:20
Speaker 9: it's their motivation. I think it's pretty clear they stand
25:24
Speaker 9: to make a lot of money off of it, and
25:25
Speaker 9: there's a lot of power and influence from it for.
25:28
Speaker 8: Them as well.
25:31
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you've just done such exceptional work. You expose the
25:35
Speaker 3: excesses of the trans movement with what is a woman?
25:39
Speaker 3: Am I Racist? The race baces have been exposed. We
25:42
Speaker 3: need you now to focus on some sort of a
25:44
Speaker 3: climate change movie, Matt, please, we need that in the culture.
25:50
Speaker 3: Is that what you're working on next? Do you have
25:52
Speaker 3: a next project? Already underway.
25:56
Speaker 9: I have a couple of ideas that I'm pretty excited about,
25:59
Speaker 9: but I couldn't.
26:00
Speaker 8: I it's going to be. It's going to be in
26:03
Speaker 8: the vault.
26:03
Speaker 9: It's a it's a it's a secret for you know,
26:06
Speaker 9: a while now before anyone hears anything about it.
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Speaker 3: We really appreciate your time tonight, Matt Walsh.
26:13
Speaker 8: You've been very generous.
26:14
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
26:16
Speaker 8: Thank you.
26:17
Speaker 3: Still to come an extended edition of Lefty's Losing It,
26:22
Speaker 3: featuring more than one a less celebrity. Welcome back. Now
26:34
Speaker 3: it's time for Lefties Losing It. And I regret to
26:37
Speaker 3: inform you that Robert de Niro has gone fully demented again.
26:43
Speaker 3: You'll remember his various anti Trump, ranced, ranged bile field
26:48
Speaker 3: attacks that show that de Niro is suffering from an
26:51
Speaker 3: advance case of Trump derangement syndrome. Are talking about, Ah,
27:06
Speaker 3: what a charming man, not at all bitter or insane?
27:10
Speaker 8: Is he?
27:10
Speaker 3: You know what he's like the male Whoopie Goldberg and
27:14
Speaker 3: talking about whoopee. Here she is claiming that Donald Trump
27:17
Speaker 3: will deport the colored wives of white men. He'll break
27:22
Speaker 3: up into racial marriages and will then marry off the
27:25
Speaker 3: white men to new wives.
27:27
Speaker 13: Walking about you.
27:30
Speaker 3: He's not going to be he's not gonna.
27:32
Speaker 11: You know, say, oh, you're with a white guy.
27:34
Speaker 8: I'm going to keep you from being deported.
27:36
Speaker 15: No, you're going to port you and put the white
27:38
Speaker 15: guy with someone else.
27:39
Speaker 8: The man is out there.
27:41
Speaker 3: What can you say about these people? They really should
27:43
Speaker 3: have never closed those asylums. And while we're on the view,
27:47
Speaker 3: let's have a look at this meltdown from Sonny Houston,
27:50
Speaker 3: who blames Donald Trump personally for a joke told by
27:54
Speaker 3: comedian Tony Hitchcliff at Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 14: This Puerto Rican has something to say about the island
28:01
Speaker 14: that I love where my family is from. Puerto Rico
28:06
Speaker 14: is trash. We are Americans, Donald Trump, Why.
28:11
Speaker 3: Are you telling Donald Trump? It was a comedian who
28:15
Speaker 3: made the joke, this joke.
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Speaker 10: Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but
28:18
Speaker 10: there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle
28:22
Speaker 10: of the ocean right now.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Okay, yep, it was Tony's joke. He's
28:33
Speaker 3: a comedian. He got a mixed response from the crowd
28:36
Speaker 3: for that joke. Do we expect folks to change their
28:40
Speaker 3: vote because of a joke about Puerto Rico. Well, Sunny
28:44
Speaker 3: Houstin expects it, and in this rather hysterical die Tribe,
28:48
Speaker 3: she again seems to mislead her dim audience, giving them
28:51
Speaker 3: the impression that it was Donald Trump who told that joke.
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Speaker 14: We vote Donald Trump, trash away. Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin,
29:03
Speaker 14: Bad Bunny, Luis Fonce and Mark Anthony have over three
29:06
Speaker 14: hundred and forty five million followers on Instagram. I think
29:09
Speaker 14: you only have twenty six million, since you care so
29:12
Speaker 14: much about size, and we don't like what we said
29:15
Speaker 14: about Puerto Rico, and we know how to take the
29:18
Speaker 14: trash out Donald Trump, trash that has been collecting since
29:23
Speaker 14: twenty sixteen. And that's you, Donald Trump.
29:26
Speaker 3: Oh, turned down the hyperbole. Love, You're going to hurt
29:29
Speaker 3: yourself now. For the record, most Latinos that I know
29:33
Speaker 3: of are not the celebt she mentioned. Most Latinos have
29:36
Speaker 3: a pretty good sense of humor. They're not easily offended,
29:40
Speaker 3: they're not snowflakes, and they probably know that Puerto Rico
29:45
Speaker 3: has a significant trash problem has had for many years.
29:50
Speaker 3: In any case, it was a joke. I don't recall
29:52
Speaker 3: the Democrats, including the likes of the views Sonny Houston,
29:56
Speaker 3: having a tantrum over this joke told recently at a
30:00
Speaker 3: Kamala rally, suggesting that Mexicans are a faving miscreants.
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Speaker 13: Donald Trump said he was going to build a wall,
30:09
Speaker 13: and George Lopez said, you better build it in one day,
30:12
Speaker 13: because if you leave.
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Speaker 2: That material out there overnight.
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Speaker 3: I don't remember Kamala having to disavow that joke or
30:23
Speaker 3: the media having a mass meltdown about it. And of
30:27
Speaker 3: course Don Lemon was joining in the insanity. Listen to
30:30
Speaker 3: this nonsense.
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Speaker 12: You want to see the October surprise that just might
30:34
Speaker 12: kill Donald Trump's chances of becoming president. This one stupid
30:38
Speaker 12: racist joke. And they released a statement almost immediately trying
30:42
Speaker 12: to distance Donald Trump from the comedian and that joke,
30:45
Speaker 12: but not before some really high profile stars started reposting
30:51
Speaker 12: videos of Kamala Harris's support of Puerto Rico, like Bad Bunny,
30:56
Speaker 12: j Lo and Ricky Martin. They have hundreds of thousands,
31:00
Speaker 12: if not millions, of loyal fans that comedian kill Tony
31:06
Speaker 12: may have just killed Donald Trump's chances of becoming president.
31:09
Speaker 3: That is called wishful thinking folks. Good luck with that, Donna.
31:13
Speaker 3: Let's check it now with Tim Walls, who wants Republicans
31:17
Speaker 3: to stop all that name calling.
31:19
Speaker 2: I think the core principle adhering to the Constitution, the
31:22
Speaker 2: rule of law, getting away from the name calling and
31:24
Speaker 2: the division.
31:26
Speaker 3: But wasn't it Tim Walls who just a few days
31:29
Speaker 3: ago called the world's richest man the genius sending rockets
31:32
Speaker 3: into space and using his considerable wealth to help save
31:36
Speaker 3: free speech. Wasn't it Tim Walls who called Elon Musk
31:40
Speaker 3: a dipshit.
31:41
Speaker 2: Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a dips
31:46
Speaker 2: on these stones.
31:47
Speaker 8: You know it?
31:48
Speaker 3: And remember when the man who put tampons in boys'
31:52
Speaker 3: bathrooms in schools across Minnesota. Cold Republicans weird and creepy.
31:58
Speaker 2: You know it, You feel it. These guys are.
32:00
Speaker 8: Creepy, and yes, just where it as hell.
32:02
Speaker 2: That's what you see.
32:03
Speaker 3: And here is Tim Walls pushing the dangerous lie that
32:07
Speaker 3: Trump's sellout rally at Madison Square Garden or some Nazi
32:12
Speaker 3: inspired event.
32:13
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has descended into madness over the last few weeks.
32:16
Speaker 2: And I think some of you don't miss on this.
32:18
Speaker 2: Go do your google on this. Donald Trump's got this
32:20
Speaker 2: big rally going at Madison Square Garden. There's a direct
32:25
Speaker 2: parallel to a big rally that happened in the mid
32:27
Speaker 2: nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden. And don't think that
32:30
Speaker 2: he doesn't know for one second exactly what they're doing there.
32:33
Speaker 3: That's the weirdo accusing his opponents of using reckless language. Really,
32:39
Speaker 3: now it's time to check in with the woman herself,
32:42
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. Here she is with a bunch of celebs,
32:45
Speaker 3: including John Legend, chanting we are not going back, We're
32:52
Speaker 3: not going back. Did you spot actor Mark Ruffalo there?
32:58
Speaker 3: How is he getting faced time with the veep when
33:01
Speaker 3: he's out there pushing dangerous lies about Israel? The man
33:06
Speaker 3: is an anti Zionist disinformation machine. Interesting company that she keeps.
33:12
Speaker 3: But don't expect the media to ask about that. The
33:14
Speaker 3: media won't even ask her about her many accents, But
33:18
Speaker 3: the content creators keep coming up with gems like this.
33:22
Speaker 16: Yes, oh, hello, young lady, it's quite a marvelous day
33:28
Speaker 16: in it.
33:28
Speaker 15: Why does she talk so weird?
33:30
Speaker 8: Let me play with her.
33:31
Speaker 16: Well, hey, there, little nugget, I'm going to be the
33:33
Speaker 16: first black female president of the United States of America.
33:38
Speaker 15: Man, this dog sucks.
33:39
Speaker 17: Accent Switch Kamala can emulate any accent you like as
33:42
Speaker 17: long as it grants her credibility.
33:45
Speaker 15: You have a quo power.
33:47
Speaker 3: Yes, Accent Switch Kamala can even do a German accent
33:52
Speaker 3: and comes with a bunch of useful accessories.
33:56
Speaker 15: Goodness or.
34:00
Speaker 10: Sid switch.
34:03
Speaker 17: But wait, there's more. All new accent Switch Karmala comes
34:06
Speaker 17: with two bags of campaign money, a blind eye for
34:09
Speaker 17: illegal immigration, and her own multi lab three thousand generators
34:13
Speaker 17: lab in every way possible. It's accent Switch Kamala and
34:17
Speaker 17: brand new tampon Tim.
34:19
Speaker 3: We've got more lefties losing it after the ad break,
34:22
Speaker 3: including the leftist media's insane coverage of Trump's huge Madison
34:28
Speaker 3: Square Garden rally. Batiya Unga Sagon joins me next welcome back.
34:43
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at how MSNBC covered the huge
34:46
Speaker 3: trumpel at rally at Madison Square Garden, which featured everyone
34:51
Speaker 3: from Milania to Hulk Hogan to doctor phil and Tucker Carlson,
34:55
Speaker 3: and also Trump's dream team. Those are the people expected
34:59
Speaker 3: to be part of his administration. The likes of Elon
35:02
Speaker 3: Mask Vivit Ramaswami, Tulsea Gabbett.
35:04
Speaker 8: And Robert F. Kennedy.
35:06
Speaker 3: It was a jubilant affair, but let's hear how MSNBC
35:11
Speaker 3: coverted this is insane.
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Speaker 13: In that place is particularly chilling because in nineteen thirty nine,
35:20
Speaker 13: more than twenty thousand supporters of a different fascist leader,
35:23
Speaker 13: Adolf Hitler, packed the garden for a so called pro
35:27
Speaker 13: America rally, a rally where speakers voiced anti Semitic rhetoric
35:31
Speaker 13: from a stage draped with Nazi banners. When a Jewish
35:36
Speaker 13: protester rushed the stage, the Associated Press reported quote Instantly
35:41
Speaker 13: a dozen or more stormtroopers set upon him, knocking him
35:44
Speaker 13: down and beating him. As he held his head in
35:46
Speaker 13: his arms. Most of his clothing was torn from his body.
35:51
Speaker 13: Later he was booked for disorderly conduct. Now against that
35:57
Speaker 13: backdrop of history, and he.
35:59
Speaker 3: Wasn't us to MSNBC where the lefties were losing it.
36:04
Speaker 3: One of their anchors brought some extra crazy to the
36:07
Speaker 3: views desk on the ABAC.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think it was everything that you need to
36:12
Speaker 11: know about Donald Trump in one weird white nationalist Nazi
36:18
Speaker 11: type rally. And of course there's historic parallels to where
36:22
Speaker 11: and when this happened.
36:23
Speaker 3: Joining me now is the deputy opinion editor at Newsweek
36:27
Speaker 3: and author of Second Class, How the Elites Betrayed America's
36:31
Speaker 3: working men and Women. Batiya Unga Sagon, Thank you so
36:36
Speaker 3: much for your time.
36:38
Speaker 8: What is your.
36:38
Speaker 3: Response to the manner in which MSNBC and other leftist
36:43
Speaker 3: media covered Trump's Madison Square Garden rally.
36:48
Speaker 15: Thank you so much for having me, and also thank
36:50
Speaker 15: you for your continued.
36:52
Speaker 18: Humor about all of these utterly ridiculous things read. I
36:56
Speaker 18: know that I and all of your viewers so appreciate
36:58
Speaker 18: your perspective on everything. You know, it is so incredibly
37:03
Speaker 18: ridiculous the way they talked about it. They talked about
37:05
Speaker 18: this as though nobody had appeared in Madison Square Garden
37:10
Speaker 18: between the Nazi rally and Donald Trump showing up, when
37:14
Speaker 18: of course, it is one of the most desirable venues
37:17
Speaker 18: in the country.
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Speaker 15: Tons and tons and tons of people have appeared there.
37:21
Speaker 15: This rally was full of Jewish people, supporters of Israel,
37:25
Speaker 15: black people, Hispanic people. The idea that it is a
37:29
Speaker 15: Nazi rally, it is utter wishful thinking by the left,
37:34
Speaker 15: and you have to understand the reason that they're doing
37:37
Speaker 15: this When they call Trump Hitler, they're doing so because
37:41
Speaker 15: he has vowed to rid this country of the scourge
37:45
Speaker 15: of illegal immigration. And so what they're doing is they
37:49
Speaker 15: are comparing Hitler, who took away the citizenship of millions
37:55
Speaker 15: of Jews and then mass murdered them, with Donald Trump,
37:59
Speaker 15: who is effectively saying, I'm going to put Americans first,
38:03
Speaker 15: American citizens first, and take away the scourge of illegal immigration,
38:09
Speaker 15: which not only has brought a lot of violence to
38:12
Speaker 15: this country, but also has been a downward pressure on
38:14
Speaker 15: working class wages because of course they come and they
38:17
Speaker 15: compete with the working class. So why do they do this,
38:20
Speaker 15: Why do they compare Donald Trump, who's trying to protect
38:23
Speaker 15: American citizens with Hitler, who murdered German citizens who happened
38:28
Speaker 15: to be Jewish. And what they're trying to do their
38:30
Speaker 15: rita is erase the distinction between citizen and non citizen. Right,
38:36
Speaker 15: they're saying that for Donald Trump to deport illegal immigrants
38:40
Speaker 15: who are non citizens is the same as Hitler killing
38:44
Speaker 15: actual citizens. They don't want you to know that there
38:48
Speaker 15: is actually a difference between being an American and not
38:52
Speaker 15: being an American, because to them, it means nothing to
38:55
Speaker 15: be an American. They do not believe that Americans have
38:59
Speaker 15: the right to insist that it means something to be
39:02
Speaker 15: an American and that we owe something to our fellow Americans,
39:05
Speaker 15: because they feel that they owe them nothing. They have
39:08
Speaker 15: nothing but contempt for their fellow Americans, especially the working class.
39:15
Speaker 3: Well, these comparisons with Hitler, they're not only offensive and absurd,
39:20
Speaker 3: as you've just described, but he actually looked at that
39:23
Speaker 3: rally at Madison Square Garden. There were Israeli flags, there
39:28
Speaker 3: were plenty of Jews in attendance inside the venue and
39:32
Speaker 3: outside the venue in the overflow area as well, and
39:37
Speaker 3: the speakers were from all sorts of backgrounds, so we
39:41
Speaker 3: had black speakers, brown speakers, and to characterize that as
39:45
Speaker 3: some sort of white supremacist Nazi rally is so absurd.
39:50
Speaker 3: But on your point about conflating illegal immigrants with legal migrants,
39:56
Speaker 3: that is something that the Democrats do quite deliberately. Media
40:00
Speaker 3: allow them to get awaye with that. Why do you
40:03
Speaker 3: think that is You mentioned that for a lot of them,
40:06
Speaker 3: being American doesn't actually mean anything, but surely those in
40:11
Speaker 3: the media would want to make that distinction, that there
40:14
Speaker 3: is actually a difference between illegal and lego migration.
40:20
Speaker 15: They totally don't believe in that distinction. And the reason
40:24
Speaker 15: for that is is that for the elites, the open
40:28
Speaker 15: border is very much in their economic interests. They talk
40:33
Speaker 15: about immigration through the lens of morality, we should help
40:38
Speaker 15: these poor people from other countries, But they think about
40:41
Speaker 15: immigration through an economic lens because the elites are the
40:46
Speaker 15: consumers of low wage labor. They are the people employing
40:51
Speaker 15: all of these illegal migrants, and of course they would
40:54
Speaker 15: rather pay an illegal migrant a fraction of what they
40:57
Speaker 15: would have to pay an American, So it is very
41:01
Speaker 15: much in their interest to open that border. It is
41:03
Speaker 15: the working class who pays for it. So this open
41:07
Speaker 15: border situation that the Democrats have been pushing since Donald
41:10
Speaker 15: Trump showed up on the scene has been an upward
41:13
Speaker 15: transfer of wealth from the working class neighbors of the
41:18
Speaker 15: elites into the pockets of the elites. And what's so ironic, Rita,
41:23
Speaker 15: is that through the nineteen nineties, it was the Democrats
41:27
Speaker 15: who insisted that we have a strong border because their
41:31
Speaker 15: base was labor. It was the Democrats saying, why would
41:35
Speaker 15: we allow millions of people to come here from other
41:38
Speaker 15: countries and undercut our workers that's suicide. That is collective suicide.
41:43
Speaker 15: When Donald Trump showed up and said, wow, we should
41:46
Speaker 15: probably control immigration and protect our working class, the Democrats
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Speaker 15: realized that he had picked up not just their agenda,
41:54
Speaker 15: but their working class base, increasingly of all races. As
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Speaker 15: you so beautifully pointed out out, the real threat that
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Speaker 15: Donald Trump pauses is not that he is a divider.
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Speaker 15: It's that he has united the working class in one
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Speaker 15: voice against the elites who hate them.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is why he's getting so much support from
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Speaker 3: members of the Hispanic community, increasingly from members of the
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Speaker 3: black community. And I want to ask you about that,
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Speaker 3: because we saw the Democrats kick an own goal when
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Speaker 3: they're sending Barack Obama out there to bret black men
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Speaker 3: for not supporting Kamala And now Michelle Obama is out
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Speaker 3: there lecturing men, let's play this clip from a rally
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Speaker 3: in Michigan. This is how we should view men. Apparently,
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Speaker 3: if we don't.
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Speaker 16: Get this election right, you're white, your daughter, your mother,
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Speaker 16: We as women will become collateral damage to your rage.
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Speaker 16: So are you, as men prepared to look into the
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Speaker 16: eyes of the women and children you love and tell
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Speaker 16: them that you supported this assault on our safety.
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Speaker 3: And she also suggested that if you don't vote for Kamala,
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Speaker 3: you're either racist or sexist.
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Speaker 16: What in the world is going on? And it's clear
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Speaker 16: to me that the question isn't whether Kamala is ready
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Speaker 16: for this moment, because by every measure she has demonstrated
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Speaker 16: that she's ready. The real country, the real question is,
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Speaker 16: as a country, are we ready for this moment?
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Speaker 3: She went on to demand that men put aside their
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Speaker 3: anger and vote for Kamala, and she also suggested that
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Speaker 3: women should demand their men do better and back Kamala.
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Speaker 3: Well that messaging work or is it just preaching to
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Speaker 3: the converted?
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Speaker 15: It's so amazing. I mean, can you imagine asking for
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Speaker 15: somebody's vote by telling them your only role here is
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Speaker 15: to shut up and become subservient to some other group.
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Speaker 15: Now that's insulting enough on its own, but bear in
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Speaker 15: mind that the last forty years of Democratic policy has
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Speaker 15: taken the jobs of American men of all races who
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Speaker 15: are working class, and either ship them overseas, defunded vocational training,
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Speaker 15: or imported an entire slave cast to do construction work.
44:35
Speaker 15: So first they sold these men out. They made it
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Speaker 15: impossible for them to support a family on a single income.
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Speaker 15: Then they called them toxic if they dared protest and say,
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Speaker 15: wait a minute, maybe a society needs strong men. No, no,
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Speaker 15: that's toxic masculinity. And now to put the cherry on
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Speaker 15: the cake, they're telling them shut up, support women or
44:59
Speaker 15: we will call you sai and racist. And the worst
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Speaker 15: part of this is is that this election is pitting
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Speaker 15: the real, urgent concerns of working class men over fake,
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Speaker 15: made up concerns of college educated and rich women. Why
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Speaker 15: is Michelle Obama, one of the last people on planet
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Speaker 15: Earth who will ever need an abortion, out there saying
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Speaker 15: her life is in danger and all of these women's
45:23
Speaker 15: lives are in danger. They're not in danger. Daltrep promised
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Speaker 15: to veto a national abortion ban. They made up this concern,
45:31
Speaker 15: this issue because it allows billionaire and millionaire women to
45:36
Speaker 15: pretend that they are the oppressed, because somehow they are
45:41
Speaker 15: related tangentially to a woman who might need a ninth
45:45
Speaker 15: month abortion for some reason. Right, it is all about
45:48
Speaker 15: who gets to larp as the oppressed. That's basically what
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Speaker 15: they're doing here.
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Speaker 3: Well, you write in your book Second Class about the
45:59
Speaker 3: political real life alignment that we are seeing where the privileged, affluent,
46:04
Speaker 3: often women, leaning left, and the working class, those who
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Speaker 3: are aspirational classes you may call them, are leaning increasingly right.
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Speaker 3: You argue America has broken its contract with its laboring class.
46:20
Speaker 3: Explain what you mean by that.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, the real divide in America is not left versus right.
46:27
Speaker 15: It's not god forbid racial it's the class divide that
46:30
Speaker 15: separates out people with a college education from people who
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Speaker 15: work with their hands for a living and do the
46:35
Speaker 15: jobs we all rely on to survive. And thanks to
46:39
Speaker 15: forty years of democratic economic policy, they basically use the
46:44
Speaker 15: economy as an upward funnel of wealth from the working
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Speaker 15: class to the college educated, so that now the top
46:51
Speaker 15: twenty percent in America control over fifty percent of the
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Speaker 15: GDP and the working class is struggling. And that's why
46:58
Speaker 15: they're abandoning the Democrats, because the Democrats abandoned them. And
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Speaker 15: I would say, even a little more subtly, they're not
47:05
Speaker 15: moving to the right. They are voicing a radically moderate center,
47:11
Speaker 15: which is exactly where Donald Trump is on every single
47:15
Speaker 15: policy issue, which again is why they call him a fascist,
47:19
Speaker 15: because the truth is such a threat to the Democrats.
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Speaker 15: Donald Trump showed up and picked up the reasonable new
47:26
Speaker 15: Deal Democrat policies from the fifties through the nineties that
47:30
Speaker 15: represent labor, and that's why they have to destroy him.
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Speaker 3: Now there's been a mass tantrum after leftist papers, the
47:41
Speaker 3: LA Times and the Washington Posts refuse to formally endorse
47:45
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. This is unusual for both papers. Why do
47:50
Speaker 3: you think they've taken that position? Because if you actually
47:52
Speaker 3: look at their output, they just churn out anti trunk
47:57
Speaker 3: pieces day and night, NonStop. Why aren't they formally endorsing Harris?
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Speaker 3: What's the thinking there?
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Speaker 15: Do you know what's so amazing, Rita is these are
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Speaker 15: the very organs that organized the coup against Joe Biden.
48:13
Speaker 15: So they spent all of this capital because they thought
48:17
Speaker 15: Biden was going to lose to get Kamala Harris elected
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Speaker 15: or put at the top of the ticket without having
48:23
Speaker 15: won a single vote. And now that she's been at
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Speaker 15: the top of that ticket for three months, they realize, oh, actually,
48:31
Speaker 15: we all knew Kamala all along, Like it's the same
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Speaker 15: person who failed to get a single vote in twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 15: and they just don't want the egg on their face
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Speaker 15: at this point. It's so amazing to see how when
48:43
Speaker 15: you mess with democracy it takes its revenge. I think
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Speaker 15: that's what we're really seeing here.
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Speaker 3: That's an excellent message. Thank you so much for your
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Speaker 3: time tonight, Patiya Unga Sagon. Always a pleasure, and that's
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Speaker 3: all the time we've got tonight. I'll see you at
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Speaker 3: eleven tomorrow. Up next is Newsnight.