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One Piece, 859-861 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one Piece episodes eight fifty nine through eight sixty one.
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  Speaker 1: The rebellious daughter Chiffon, Sonji's big plan for transporting the cake,
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  Speaker 1: a man's way of life, Beggi and Lufy's determination as
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  Speaker 1: captain's and the Cake sank Soanjy and Beje's get away battle.
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  Speaker 1: In these episodes, well, Big Mom is still on her rampage,
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  Speaker 1: but everything going on around her stays interesting and I
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  Speaker 1: am still very invested and I am really enjoying this arc.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so pleased at how it has sustained itself. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to spoil Me, Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much to Florian for commissioning this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot to mention this. I think it was actually
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  Speaker 1: the last group of episodes, or maybe the one before that.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a new theme song in the mix. Yes
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  Speaker 1: we have Superpowers. I think it's like the chorus. I
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  Speaker 1: don't dislike the song.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little repetitive.
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  Speaker 1: I think the fact that it's got some of its
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  Speaker 1: words in English. It's like a blessing and a curse
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  Speaker 1: where a part of me appreciates there's a bit of
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  Speaker 1: it that I can sing along to. But also it
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  Speaker 1: means that the repetitive quality is less charming than it
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  Speaker 1: is when it's in another language. But I do think
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  Speaker 1: I prefer the song before to this one. And it's
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  Speaker 1: always hard to tell. Am I just reacting to change
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  Speaker 1: or is it genuinely a reaction to the quality of
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  Speaker 1: the song?
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  Speaker 2: Difficult to say.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have to I should really like do a little
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  Speaker 1: listen to a playlist of all of the theme songs
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  Speaker 1: and see if the ones that I originally liked stayed
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  Speaker 1: my favorites or not, because there's got to be somebody
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  Speaker 1: out there, like there's got to be a bunch of playlists.
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  Speaker 2: It's all of the different.
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  Speaker 1: Theme songs, right, So this episode or group of episodes,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, is it's very compelling to me that
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  Speaker 1: the way they have chosen to do this here is
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  Speaker 1: so I think that as much as a part of
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  Speaker 1: me feels bad for the voice actress who is doing
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  Speaker 1: Big Mom and the fact that she is just on
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  Speaker 1: a rampage saying where is my wedding cake? Give me
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  Speaker 1: my wedding cake? Do you have my wedding cake? Where
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  Speaker 1: is the wedding cake. I can almost taste the wedding cake.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have the wedding cake? I am sure that
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  Speaker 1: gets very, very old. It's been how many episodes. But
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  Speaker 1: what works is that a big mom isn't really the
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  Speaker 1: focus at all. She is like almost like a natural disaster.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's just out here being a fucking tornado
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  Speaker 1: in the background, and it's everybody around her that we
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  Speaker 1: are reacting to. If she were fighting Loofy this whole time,
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  Speaker 1: this would have gotten really boring because Loofy would be
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  Speaker 1: stationary and just involved with her. But Loofy is dealing
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  Speaker 1: with Katekori, who, by the way, I really enjoy a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about him.
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  Speaker 1: I liked him before the reveal of the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he has like this binge eating thing, but he's just
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  Speaker 1: got this like as much as he does say my
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  Speaker 1: fighting is superior to yours, et cetera, it doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: feel so much like an ego thing. It feels just
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  Speaker 1: like him stating facts. And later on in this group
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  Speaker 1: of episodes, there's a point where he's like, where did
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  Speaker 1: Lufy go?
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  Speaker 2: He must have run away.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because I think he says something like
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  Speaker 1: one of Big Mom's people will get him eventually anyway,
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  Speaker 1: something like that, And I was so startled because I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was going to be it doesn't matter, I'll
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  Speaker 1: track him down and finish him, and no, it's it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter because like somebody will deal with his ass.
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  Speaker 1: It very much felt like Category was basically washing his
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  Speaker 1: hands of Loofy as a as an opponent, which to
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  Speaker 1: me says that his ego is not hugely invested in
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  Speaker 1: how things go down with Lufy, that he it's not personal,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if Louviy is choosing to run away, he's
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  Speaker 1: just like, well, you know, it's probably a smart idea, actually,
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  Speaker 1: And there is something regarding that lack of like personal
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  Speaker 1: investment that I can't help but respect. And I found
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  Speaker 1: genuinely surprising because a guy like Category, I would think
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  Speaker 1: would take himself a little bit too seriously, and he
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  Speaker 1: definitely does take himself too seriously in that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want anybody knowing about, like even seeing him eat, So
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  Speaker 1: that's in there, but it's not in regard to fighting,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know, it just sort of made me
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  Speaker 1: feel like this is a guy who's very secure with
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he is a great fighter, and he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't need to prove anything because we all know.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, I got over there because I was talking
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that Lufy is fighting category.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk.
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  Speaker 1: About Lufy like in general first, because for once, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on with him is actually just as exciting as
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the other stuff. It's wild how Lufy
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  Speaker 1: is such a bonker's character and yet his plots tend
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  Speaker 1: to be in many ways some of the most boring ones.
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  Speaker 1: Not always obviously there's some wild shit that he gets into,
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  Speaker 1: but like a lot of the time he's relegated to
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  Speaker 1: being on the sideline somehow and kept out of the
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  Speaker 1: fight by some means, and then he's led into the
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  Speaker 1: fight and he pretty much just does his regular ass
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  Speaker 1: fighting style every time, and it's you know, there's just
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  Speaker 1: other than a few highlight moments, a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: it's very very much the same as stuff we've seen already.
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  Speaker 1: And this time, so first of all, he's on I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just called nut Island. He had not intended
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  Speaker 1: to jump out onto the island that Big Mom is on,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Pero is on Mom's shoulder, trying to
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  Speaker 1: convince her to leave this island because the straw hats
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  Speaker 1: aren't even here, her cake isn't here, and then he
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  Speaker 1: has to eat his words when Loofy pops up. There
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  Speaker 1: comes a point later where people are talking about having
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  Speaker 1: spotted Loofy all over the place, and he's just like,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? And somebody says, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's using the mirrors, and Paro is just like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, calm mom, Brulai, you didn't get captured again.
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  Speaker 1: And I just you guys know that I had been
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  Speaker 1: feeling bad for Brulai, so when he just was basically
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  Speaker 1: like bitch, seriously, I felt kind of bad for her.
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  Speaker 1: Brulai's look, I'm not gonna play Relai's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a loser.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine, we know this. I still like her.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost what I like about her. When she first
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  Speaker 1: turned up, her whole esthetic was so classic which in
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  Speaker 1: the woods, and it just earned her a lot of
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  Speaker 1: points in my book immediately that were really they weren't
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  Speaker 1: really even earned points. It just I immediately went, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see more of this bitch. Then she
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  Speaker 1: turned out to have this mirror power, which is cool
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  Speaker 1: as hell, and then I kept expecting she gets she
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  Speaker 1: gets gripped up by Uh, who is it that has
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  Speaker 1: her in their first Is it Sangy No, because they're
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  Speaker 1: looking for Sanji. It's Nammy and Chopper right that are
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  Speaker 1: in their first And I really kept thinking that she
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  Speaker 1: was eventually going to.
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  Speaker 2: Find a way out of it. They leave her.
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  Speaker 1: Alone with Caesar, and I think that was my expectation,
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  Speaker 1: was that Caesar is such a tricky little character and
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  Speaker 1: she's a bad guy and they would somehow end up
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  Speaker 1: working together to screw everybody. And that never happened. Caesar
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  Speaker 1: got his heart back, he got out of like the
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  Speaker 1: whole mix for right now, I actually don't know what
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  Speaker 1: he's up to now. I'm curious, but BRULEI has just
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  Speaker 1: gone from one pair of hands to another, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's so embarrassing at this point that I
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  Speaker 1: using the mirror world is super useful. So I understand
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  Speaker 1: wanting her on your team. When you have total control
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  Speaker 1: over the comings and goings, that's a huge advantage, but
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  Speaker 1: it is such a liability that your enemies can make
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  Speaker 1: use of that so easily by just capturing her that
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's even really worth it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Lufy has her thrown over his shoulder. He
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  Speaker 1: still calls her Branch for all of the episodes. And
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  Speaker 1: even though at first I was like this joke is
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  Speaker 1: sort of wearing on me, there did come a point
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  Speaker 1: where I was like, no, okay, we've turned a corner.
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  Speaker 1: It's come back around to being funny again. And at
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  Speaker 1: one point he's running and I had just noticed how
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  Speaker 1: she was like over his shoulder, and then he turns
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  Speaker 1: a corner and she's gone, and I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: what where'd she go? And it turns out that she
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  Speaker 1: somehow like jumped off his shoulder without her without him noticing,
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  Speaker 1: and she goes and hides in this spot, is laughing
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  Speaker 1: at him, being like, hey, just come out, and going
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  Speaker 1: you think I'm just gonna come out because you told
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  Speaker 1: me to come out. I'm not an idiot. And then
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  Speaker 1: he yells hey, Branch, and she just yells, my name
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  Speaker 1: is Bruleet and gives away her hiding place. And then
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  Speaker 1: it's just like, oh my god, I didn't And this
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  Speaker 1: just made me think of the There was like a
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  Speaker 1: series of funny videos that went up of like people
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  Speaker 1: hiding from serial killers, like you know in a slasher
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  Speaker 1: movie where they're like hiding behind a piece of furniture
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  Speaker 1: and there's somebody walking around with a knife, just stalking
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  Speaker 1: them in their home and they're hiding and they're not
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  Speaker 1: making a sound. But then that serial killer yells out
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  Speaker 1: sweet a lot, and they just yelled bah bah bah
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  Speaker 1: because they can't help themselves and give away their hiding place.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, he gets relay back again. I really thought, guys,
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  Speaker 1: she got away, Bula managed to get away from Lovie,
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  Speaker 1: and now the enemy is gonna you know, especially considering
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  Speaker 1: that last episode, I was like very distracted at the
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  Speaker 1: fact the realization that Katekori was like essentially stuck in
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  Speaker 1: the mirror world until she came back. So I was thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe she's gonna jump back into the mirror world to
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  Speaker 1: help her brother.
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  Speaker 2: But she doesn't even do that.
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  Speaker 1: She just goes and hides in like a bin, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on the street girl, if you're going to try and escape,
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  Speaker 1: run into one of the houses, find a reflective surface,
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  Speaker 1: something like, make an effort. But honestly, Bule is like
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  Speaker 1: she's just not very creative in her thinking, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, Loofy goes back into the mirror world because,
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  Speaker 1: like reminder, all of this has been in service to
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  Speaker 1: him trying to let his hockey recharge. He was in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of the fight and it's pointed out to
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  Speaker 1: him by Kategori that like, oh, you're shrinking down, and
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  Speaker 1: Movie's like, oh, hey, thanks for the head up. Let
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  Speaker 1: me just charge up and come back and keep fighting you, which,
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  Speaker 1: to his credit, caud Cory seems fine with. He is
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  Speaker 1: just like, yeah, all right, fine, I'll just be here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And there's like no sense of like why
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  Speaker 1: would I let you do that. It's just sort of
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  Speaker 1: I guess, bro, like if that makes you feel better,
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm going to win either way, it really
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. So sure. And yet Loufy is talking to
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  Speaker 1: Bruley and he says something to her about how like,
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: even though Kadakori is using observation hockey, you know, so successfully,
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  Speaker 1: my hockey ran out, So who's to say his hockey.
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  Speaker 2: Can't run out.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I can like push it to the limit. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's actually not a bad idea.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how that works. My imagination has it
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  Speaker 1: that like the more you are with using hockey, the
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  Speaker 1: greater your reservoir becomes, and that's what you draw on,
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  Speaker 1: and so probably his reservoir is just much bigger than Lufy's.
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  Speaker 1: And this is all coming from like Cradle and my
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  Speaker 1: understanding of you know, because this is not really the
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  Speaker 1: mechanics of this aren't explained so much in this universe.
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  Speaker 1: But then it sort of turns a corner where it's like, Loufy,
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  Speaker 1: this is what is making this so interesting to me,
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  Speaker 1: and what is keeping this fight from just feeling repetitive
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  Speaker 1: and boring is the combination of attitudes between Lufy and
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  Speaker 1: Kategory where Category is not seeing Lufy as a genuine
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  Speaker 1: threat and not in a cocky way, but just like
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  Speaker 1: I think we've proven plenty of times that I will win,
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  Speaker 1: we don't need to keep doing this, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: because of the fact that he he isn't threatened by
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  Speaker 1: Lufy in any real way, combine that with the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Lufi is sort of respecting what Kateakori can do,
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  Speaker 1: there's almost a feeling of like you could be a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a teacher to me for a second, even
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  Speaker 1: though we're enemies, you know, and that Category might agree
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  Speaker 1: in a way to do that, so Loufy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he has this opportunity to maybe hide out charges hockey
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  Speaker 1: and come back, and instead he comes back sooner and
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  Speaker 1: decides to re engage with Kadakori earlier on than he
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  Speaker 1: would need to, and is determined to like face him
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  Speaker 1: at full strength. And I don't know, I just think
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  Speaker 1: it's an interesting It's not what I was expecting, and
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  Speaker 1: it feels like what we're is we are about to
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  Speaker 1: have Lufy level up in a way that is actually
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  Speaker 1: on screen for us to see the moment it happens.
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing that has kind of been a
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  Speaker 1: strange element for me and an odd surprise in the
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  Speaker 1: way the storytelling has been done. Every time we have
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  Speaker 1: seen that Lufy has like a new move in his
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  Speaker 1: arsenal or something, it's always a shock to us. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not like it's been something we saw him really
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  Speaker 1: floating an idea for or testing out. It just appears
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  Speaker 1: fully formed in the midst of a fight, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to varying degrees of success maybe, but that doesn't change
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  Speaker 1: the fact that it's an attack that already like has
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  Speaker 1: a name and that he can fully execute, which I
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  Speaker 1: do think is weird. You know, I I am so
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  Speaker 1: used to narratives being focused around how long it takes
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: for somebody to actually perfect their craft, and the creativity
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  Speaker 1: necessary to come up with something new within that, the
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  Speaker 1: like boundaries of whatever it is they're capable of, like
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  Speaker 1: figuring out something new and exciting to do with the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: rubber ability, you know, deciding that I'm like I'm gonna
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: bite my thumb and blow in there like it's a
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  Speaker 1: balloon and blow myself up, or I'm going to use
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: like the pressure of like what appears to be hot
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  Speaker 1: water at times. You know, this is a sort of
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  Speaker 1: thing that I think is really creative and interesting, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I just think it's sort of I don't know if
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I want to say if it's a missed opportunity that
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: we don't see how this actually happens, or if it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: laziness in the writing where he doesn't really want to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: explain the whole thing in how this came about. It's
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  Speaker 1: obvious that in one piece the point is much more
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  Speaker 1: the fighting, and it's not really supposed to be We're
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  Speaker 1: going to spend a bunch of time with our friends
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  Speaker 1: just in downtime training. It's going to be that we
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: are engaged in a fight most of the time, and
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  Speaker 1: I can understand that, but I think that it still
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  Speaker 1: would work. So anyway, all this to say, I am
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  Speaker 1: hopeful that whatever is going on right now with Kategori
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  Speaker 1: is going to lead to Lufy unlocking a new ability,
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  Speaker 1: or at least being able to exploit an ability that
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: he already has in another way, Because like Katekori's thing
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  Speaker 1: has been oh, he can see a few seconds into
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  Speaker 1: the future, And I didn't really stop and consider the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: fact that that really doesn't seem to have anything to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: do with like Mochi powers, Like how are those things
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: relevant to each other? So the seeing a few seconds
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  Speaker 1: into the future has to be purely Hockey and if
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  Speaker 1: it is, Loofy could do that too, he could will he?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it.
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  Speaker 1: Just doesn't I'll say that it doesn't seem quite to
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  Speaker 1: align with who he is as a character, you know,
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  Speaker 1: But perhaps we're going to see some growth from him
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  Speaker 1: in that direction and he'll become somebody who is more observant.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, guys, the fact that we don't
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  Speaker 1: see his a lot of his abilities.
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  Speaker 2: Come into being.
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  Speaker 1: Am I the only one that's like a little bewildered
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  Speaker 1: by that. It just feels to me like that should
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: be such a huge part of the story that glossing
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  Speaker 1: over it is really odd to me.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know anyway, So all right now I'm
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: going to go over to what's going on at Cacao Island. Really, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on there almost all has to do exclusively
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  Speaker 1: with Chiffon, Soanji and Putting have minimal involvement. Sonji has
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a couple points where he jumps in and kicks somebody,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and Putting does some like arguing on behalf of the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: crew that was in charge of making the cake and everything,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: but mostly we are dealing with Chiffon and Oven and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Chiffon's dad, Pound and Beget and his crew. So I'm
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: going to talk about that because this is a very
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: fun little, like unexpectedly emotional storyline. I said last time,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: how I have started to really like Pound, and that
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: just grew this episode. It's so funny, how like bizarre
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and pointless I found him when we first meet him,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and I stand by it because he's literally
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: just like hanging out in the woods, hidden in the ground,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: like it's weird, but in this section, Pound is like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I found everything that happened with him so touching because
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: he is here for his little girl repeatedly despite her.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Not knowing who he is.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And so it's not like he's here for her because
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: he gets the satisfaction of her thanking him, being grateful
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to him, any of that. He is doing it purely
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: out of the desire for her to be okay, to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: be safe and happy, and it's genuinely heartwarming.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: There comes a point where I almost thought, are we
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: just never going to see him again, because like, she's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: sailing away, not sailing they're on land at that point,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: because it's an amphibious boat, which is amazing, but uh,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he's waving to them and they're already in the distance,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and he's saying something to himself, like.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: She has a beautiful.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Family or something. And he does wind up reappearing again
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit later, but for a second, I was like,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: is that the last we're going to see of him?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Is him just being happy to see that she has
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: somewhere that she belongs, even if he isn't part of it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And I was just like choked up. I'm not kidding.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, this is so
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: sweet because it's just such a selfless thing, you know.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And we have the flashback of Pound being there when
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: they had just been born and wanting to see her
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and Lola because they're twins born at the same time,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and I will ask what exactly is going on with
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the illustration of Big Mom in that flashback. It's so
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: weird because it does not look like her at all,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: her as a child in the flashbacks, she looks more
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: similar to how she looks now than she does in
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that one when she's supposedly like a grown woman. And
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: there was a point later where we see Big Mom like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you know, she's on the ocean again, and I felt
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: like the way that she was animated even there, looked
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: like it had been changed a little bit. And I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: don't know how much of a span of time this
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: story takes place, not within the story itself, but like
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: how long did writing this arc take And did his
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: animation of her change over the course of like a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: year or two as he is drawing the manga, Like
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: did he start to change it up a little bit?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Because I know, like all of the characters look different
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: now than they did when the story started, but it's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: not usual for this to happen within one arc that
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I've noticed. So I'm just curious if anybody else noticed
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that there's nobody in the chat today so for whatever reason,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: so I'm alone. So anybody listening, if you want to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: chime in, go ahead on the discord one piece, no
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: spoilers discord. So and this actually, I do want to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: mention this, guys, And this is not my intention to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: like bring down the vibes of the show or anything,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: but I do want to put it out there that
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I have recently become aware of the fact that Oda
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: is apparently like Bessie's with another illustrator of a manga
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: who was like arrested and convicted of owning a lot
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: of child porn. And evidently Oda is like still super
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: supportive of this guy, as is a lot of japan apparently.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And what a bummer the fact that Oda is like friends.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: With this dude.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Like, I really, I'm not trying to cast dispersions on
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Oda himself as like in terms of saying, like is
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: he a pedophile? I'm not trying to be that strong
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: about it. But if that isn't a deal breaker in
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: your personal relationship with something I don't know what, like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: what are your standards then?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So I have to say my opinion of him really
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: went down a trifle when I found out this, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it makes me more concerned than I even was about
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the depiction of when in this show. It's just got
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: my my antennas up a little bit more and I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: don't like feeling like that, But you know, here we are.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: If we're not going to be holding men accountable, then
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: we have to start navigating a world where they are
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: just mixed in with you know, other perfectly decent men
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and figure out how exactly are we going to interact
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: with stuff. And I know that there are plenty of
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: folks out there who try and argue about separating the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: art from the artist, and I just think that is
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a bunch of horseshit. It's not possible if the artist
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: is still alive. It's just you trying to tell yourself
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that you continuing to consume something doesn't do any harm.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: It does, and you're lying to yourself because you don't
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: want to give up the thing that you like, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that's very selfish and shitty. Figure it out. So anyway,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: not talking about one piece with this, I'm talking about
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the guy who does that manga that he does.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like he was associated with I can't remember,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: but anyway, I did want to mention this because it
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: was something that I just recently stumbled across. I don't
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: even remember how it came up. But then I'm like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: brought it up with Candace and she was talking about
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: it as well, and yeah, just a really disappointing revelation.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: It just seems like you can't swing a.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Cat these days, you know.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: So all right, this this whole thing with Oven. He's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: determined to hold Chiffon accountable for her participation in the
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: attempted assassination of Big Mom. And basically, at first, it
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: seems like he is going to throw himself between Pudding
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and the ocean, because Pudding is going to bring you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the cake onto the ship and try and lure Mom
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: out to sea so that she can overcome her hunger
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: pangs well away from any of the islands and not
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: hurt anybody further. And so even at first acts like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he's going to be very oppositional to this, and then
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: changes his mind and is like, that's a great idea,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: do that, and then Chiffon is like, thanks, Evin, don't worry,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: we won't let you down, and he's like, oh, I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: didn't mean you, and he just fucking decks her in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the face and says, you turned on your own mother
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and tried to have her killed like you were. You're
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: married to the guy who.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Was behind this whole thing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: You don't get to just walk away, Like that's not
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: how any of this works. And it's kind of funny
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: because in a way I can see what he means,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: but also as Pudding keeps pointing out, if you do this,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: we won't be able to finish the cake, and then
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Big Mom is going to continue to destroy things, So
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: what exactly is your priority here? And he never actually
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: answers that. He just basically keeps repeating about how he's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: going to uphold the law and Chaffon's a trader and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: she needs to be punished and that's all there is
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to it, and engaging any further with like the consequences
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: outside of Big Mom continuing to destroy whole islands because
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: she wants her wedding cake. He is just not even
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: willing to engage at all. And I can't help, but
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: think that like if Big Mom, let's say Big Mom
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: does eventually get the cake and come back to her
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: right mind, if she were to find out that Oven
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: delayed her getting her cake because he was so busy
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: punishing Cheffon, I think she'd be pretty pissed. I think
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that Big Mom herself would really take issue with his
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: choice here, but that is neither here nor there. So
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he is determined to punish Chiffon. And then all of
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: a sudden we see that Bege is heading back in
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and the whole thing had been that he was going
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to try and pick Chiffon.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Up, and.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Oven is really pleased to be able to like taunt
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Beggie with the fact that he has got Chiffon in custody,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and we have like the whole thing with Beggie, which
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: is really fun. Is his family nature, which like one
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: could say the family, you know, like that kind of thing,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: but it's obviously has multiple meanings for him, and he
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is like taking care of his son and just being
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: really cute with him. And in Chiffon's flashbacks, we have
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the moments of her like with Veto and like other
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: members of his crew, and how everybody was so kind
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to her, when she had the baby, and like the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: little parties that they threw and everything, and you just
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: get to see this, like Cheffon says something like mom
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: has always hated me, but you guys taught me the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: meaning of love and it's really sweet. And also like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: when you think about it, how terrible it would be
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: to know that your own mother has hated you your
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: whole life. Like that is rough, dude, that sucks. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: as Beget is realizing that Chiffon has been grabbed, he
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: says something to himself like, oh, sweetie, why did you
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: have to get involved in this? But you're as tough
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: as nails and I wouldn't have it any other way.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And I am so sorry, but I can't help. But
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Stan a husband who is just there for his woman,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: even when it's maybe her fault that she's in a mess,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: and he's just like, yeah, but the fact that she's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in that mess, that's what I like, you know, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: really get that as a sentiment as well. So this
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: whole thing is so uh. It's funny because Beggi is talking.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: They're using the like loudspeaker system and Beji is talking
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to oven and like swearing, all right, I'm coming back,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: no funny business. Meanwhile, Chiffon is yelling at him, like,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: you guys have got to get out of here. If
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I have to die, then so be it. But I
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: want you all to live. And you know, Begie would
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: never He's just not that is not how he rolls,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: as he puts it to his sons, like this is
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: how I roll for me. It's a way of life.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: So he comes back and he's like coming toward the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: shore and it's really looking like he's just about to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: pull into dock and give himself up.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And then and there's a bunch of like.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Ovens men on the beach and Bejie just says something like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it seems like you guys aren't familiar with my ship.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: It's amphibious. And all of a sudden, these wheels descend
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: out of the hull of his ship and it just
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: rolls up onto the beach and onto the ground, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it is genuinely a really funny moment where I was
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just like.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Oh shit. And earlier he had fired a.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Fucking cannonball right at Oven and this time, as he's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: like coming up onto the beach, Oven says something like, oh,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: it's cool. I'll be able to stop him. And he
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: stands directly in front of the ship as it's rolling
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: up toward them, and it's really great, y'all. It's a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: really well done moment where even is standing there. It's
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: super dramatic, and I really thought, genuinely, I really thought
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: that he was going to do something, that something here,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: there was going to be some damage inflicted on the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: ship somehow, but no, he gets rolled over like it's
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: fucking nothing. And the way that the music like changes
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and it's just so womb womb is hilarious. It's just
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a good moment.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I really I am always a fan of.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: The conceit of like, let's set this up to make
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: it really look like something's going to happen here and
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: then completely let you down in this sort of a way.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Obviously not where it's like kind of accidental, but uh,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: they managed to like get the the cake itself onto
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Bejet's ship as well. This is a whole thing, so
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: he is the one that's going to be carrying it out,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: which I am sort of wondering if that's not going
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to result in like there being forgiven for what they did,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think that would make sense, but I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Oh and also there's this whole thing with Vito because
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: like you know, he's such a fanboy of German Double six.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: So when they bring the cake on board, he says
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: something about how like this is the power of German
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and Sanji has to be like, no, it's not. And
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I just loved that because Vito being this weird boy
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in the background is truly a fun little like ongoing
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: joke that's always odd and awkward. Let's see, I'm trying
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm not forgetting anything with this
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: particular part of the story. Oh right, So then there
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: is the part where the water starts to boil and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: all of these fish begin to die and float to
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the surface, and this is oven heating up the water,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and like, once again, in the pursuit of this like
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: punishment that he wants to inflict, he is doing so
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: much damage that a part of me considering the way
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that all of Big Mom's kids have been very protective
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: of the people on their islands and have been like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you know, we need to evacuate folks, and this is
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: my city and I don't want it destroyed, and I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: don't want the people harmed. Doing something like this is
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: such a huge amount destruction that I'm sort of like,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like Big Mom would not like this knowing
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that he's doing this, you know. But yeah, there's also
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the potential, of course, with everything getting hotter, that this
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: could ruin the fucking cake. Oven really blows in terms
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: of keeping the big picture in mind and being a
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: team player and any of that. That this is not
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: anything that he gives a shit about. And it's really funny, guys,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: because there has this There is this moment where Pound
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: is about to like get into a fight. It's just
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: as Oven had been about to punch Chiffon in the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: face again, and he is poised to do so, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: off to the side, Sanji is watching this wanting to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: step in, but he doesn't have an opening. And all
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, Pound has Oven's full attention, and Sanji
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: jumps in and kicks Oven really hard as Pound's fist
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: is coming down and so Oven goes flying and for
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a second, Pound is like, oh my god, I didn't
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: know I was that strong, And I really thought that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: what we were going to have for a moment was
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that everybody was going to be really intimidated by this
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: display of power, and that Pound was going to be
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: like attributed with this and feared and that Oven would
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: maybe kind of back off because he thought Pound was
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: tougher than he seemed to be. I was a little
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: disappointed at the fact that apparently Oven immediately knows.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: That wasn't Pound.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: He's like almost instantly going, that is not that wasn't you.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: That's not what happened. I was a little bit like, oh,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: because I thought maybe he'd get to like borrow Sanjy's
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: reputation for a second, you know. But yeah, And I
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: kind of glossed over Pound like flashback because I was
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: focused so much on how.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Mom is animated.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: But it is really sad to see how much he
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: actually wanted to be part of their lives and she
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: just absolutely had.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Now use for him.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, there's a part of me that I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: will say, I'm like, I don't know what you expected, Pound,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: because it seemed big Mom functioned in this way with everybody,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if he was misled on what
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: her intentions were, or if he was like unaware of
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the other people that she had gotten pregnant by as well.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Over the years, it just seemed like he was truly
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: shocked at the fact that she didn't want him in
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: her kids' lives. And it doesn't seem like she wanted
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: any of the men that she slept with in her
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: kid's lives. So his thinking he's going to be an
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: like an exception. I kept waiting for there to be
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: an explanation as to why he expected things to be different.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: With him, and we really don't get it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Basically, what it comes down to is simply he just
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: really wanted to be with his daughters, because that's the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: kind of like caring person he is. But the problem
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that I have here is that if he is such
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: a caring person, exactly why would he even sleep with
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Big Mom? Like? What was he unwilling? Was he like conscripted?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: You know, he feels like the type of guy who's
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: not going to sleep with somebody unless he is at
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: least a little bit into them, And so what about
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: her would cause him to be into her? How did
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: all of this even start? But it's not the part
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: of the story the ODA has any interest in telling.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, he's thinking about how like, I didn't
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: get to see them, but at least they were raised
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: with everything they needed, and I hope that they had
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: good lives, which is so sad knowing that Chiffon was
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: subjected to just awful treatment. You know that she was
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: basically abused by this woman, and I feel so bad.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Like if Pound ever catches up with Chiffon and they
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: are able to actually talk, if he finds out what
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: all happened to her, it will devastate him. I have
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a feeling that Cheffon might not tell him, that she
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: would kind of see the type of person he is
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and that he's very sensitive, and that he would be
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: just so heartbroken, probably blame himself for like not getting
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: her away from Mom, that she would just not tell
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: him about it at all. So okay, I'm gonna jump
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: over to the Sonny because this is genuinely a wild moment.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Last section, I think I mentioned the fucking cannonballs that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: are what are they when they're possessed by some of
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: her spirit homies, And I mentioned them because I thought
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: they were funny, but I didn't actually expect this to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: be anything. But I think the end of the second episode,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: we have a bunch of cannonballs fired at the Sonny
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and we spend a little bit more time with them
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: than we had previously. We're there in mid air talking
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to each other about how excited they are to like
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: kill somebody, and then one of them is like, oh, hey,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: who's our enemy again? And another says the straw hats
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, right, right, And then he looks
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: down at the ship and he says, but I don't
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: see any straw hats down there, do you? And they're like, oh, yeah,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you're right, and they say they speak to Nami, hey
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: did you see the straw hats around here? And she's like, yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: they went that way, but you've got a hurry, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: so all of the cannonballs go all right, you heard her,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks lady, and they turn right and then one of
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: them just goes I think I'm want to fall, and
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: they all just fall directly into the water and do
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: no harm whatsoever. It is such a bizarre moment, you guys.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: It's also weird to be like, I don't see any
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: straw hats. I think he's literally saying I don't see
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a straw hat on the ship, because like, these people
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: all count as straw hats because they are members of
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: that crew.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: But maybe the cannonballs. Don't get that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: There's also, if I'm not mistaken, a straw hat on
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the Jolly Roger that's on the sonny right, So wouldn't
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: that also be like it doesn't matter, it does not matter,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: but they are able to just like redirect these cannonballs
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: in a way that was very unexpected and just very
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: very funny. And the explanation that we get I think
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: right after this is essentially everything that is possessed with
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: her spirit isn't acting right because Big Mom has these
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: hunger pangs. It means that she's sort of out of
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: her mind in a way that affects the pieces of
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: her soul that occupy these inanimate objects. So like during
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: ordinary times they would be much smarter than this, but
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: because because they because of the state she's in right now,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: it's sort of like infecting them with this confusion, which
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I actually I sort of like as an explanation, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: think that makes sense, and it's a good way to
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: like it's first of all, a good way to insert
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a little comedy with moments like this. It's a good
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: way to make sure that Big Moms, I mean, look
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to be real.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: She is kind of.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Ope, but like it keeps it to a level that
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: feels a little bit less.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Insane, you know.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: And also it's just a good reminder that everything that's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: animated is only animated do to her, because I forget
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that and think that this is just like these are
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: just islands where stuff's alive, you know. I just always
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: lose touch with the fact that she's the one doing this.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm making sure that I think it covered everything
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: from like the second episode, so.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh ray uh.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: The crew of the Sunny are deciding what to do
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: because like Jimbei at one point says something like, you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I'm really ready to fight. We've just been like running away,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and I get it, but also it's boring. Let's fucking
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: do something. And they're all sort of prepping mentally to
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: like get into a fight. But something weird is going
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: on with Carrot and she looks up and she says
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: something about how.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Like it's a full moon.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with you guys, because I
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: don't like to hide when I have been spoiled by
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: something I of course can't help, but see, sometimes the
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: thumbnails of episodes and the thumbnail of the next episode
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: is a pretty wild looking Carrot who's like all white,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: and I think she has like purple eyes or something
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: like that. So it's either like there's somebody who looks
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: like Carrot who turns up, or Carrot turns into this
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and it's like a werewolf sort of effect.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Obviously there's going to be something that happens to her,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and the moon is part of what, because she's very
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: distracted and acting really weird, Like it's not just her
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: looking up at the moon and being like, oh no,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the transformation's coming on and there being like just anxiety
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: around that. It feels almost like the moon is mesmerizing her,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: like she's not fully anymore somehow. And this is interesting, Like,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I had been saying that Karat like I
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: had grown to like her. She was sort of whatever
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: at first, and now I'm starting to feel like, Okay,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you know what, she's fun. But if we're adding like
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a whole new dimension with there being something specific that
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: she can do, that's really interesting and I'm looking forward
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: to seeing that. Also, just looking forward to there being
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a new element in the mix with this fight in general,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: because it's just we're in this weird place where everybody
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: is sort of gathering on the water, and I am
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: assuming that if we're like, what's weird is that we
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: all want the same thing in a way where everybody
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: wants the hunger pangs thing to be over because Big
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Mom is so dangerous in this state to everyone. But
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: if we bring her out of this state, we the
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: straw hats aren't like in a better position than we were, right.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like maybe it's worse for them for her
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to be in her right mind. It's pretty much for
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the sake of the common people on the islands that
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: we want her out of this state. If I'm not mistaken,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if like the idea was going to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, we'll leave the cake on like a
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: raft and beat a quick retreat as fast as we
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: can and make our getaway and by the time she's
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: done eating the cake, that that's going to take a
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: significant amount of time. Maybe that once she is out
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: of her state, she'll look up and will be long
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: gone because she was so completely consumed with the act
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: of eating pun intended. Yeah, I'm not really totally. It's
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: just a weird It's weird for all of us to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: kind of want the same thing. Even though we're all
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: on opposing sides. Everybody still wants her to get this
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: fucking cake and shut the fuck up about it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: And it's just rare that you come across moments like
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: this where everybody is united temporarily in wanting the same thing.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't really know what to predict from that, Like,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I I keep running into the idea of Mom finally
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: figuring out that she like eate those people when she
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: was younger.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Don't know if she will ever find out, Like, how
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: would that even happen. There's got to be somebody. Well,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: you guys have said that there were witnesses that I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: didn't remember, but I believe you. So there are folks
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: who are out there who know, and they just either
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: they never said anything to her or she didn't believe them.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and assume they just never
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: said anything to her.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I wonder how.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: All this could Is it possible she doesn't know? That
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: can't be it. I was gonna say maybe she had
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the memories removed on purpose because they were too painful
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: by putting at one point, but it seemed that she
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: didn't remember having done it right afterward, but like long
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: before pudding was around, so that can't be how that worked.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: And let's see.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I forgot about that.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Paris Berro mentions big Mom is losing weight because she
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: is having her hunger pangs and like you know, walking around.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: So that does explain part of why the animation on
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: her looks different. That's where some of that is coming.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I totally forgot about that. And there's also a mention
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: of soulong and I don't know what that is, but
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: like it's a moment of like I feel like, uh,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: what do you call it? Jimbay, there's just a mention
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: of this, and I was like, what exactly does that mean?
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if this.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe this is part of like carrot turning into something,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so anyway, I feel like I'm just trying
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to make sure that I covered everything. I feel like, oh,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you know what, I feel like the soulong might be
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't turn it off in time, and so it
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: started to do that like next time on one Piece,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And I think that Jimbe saying soulong was a preview
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: for the next episode I didn't really hear very much,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: so I didn't get too too spoiled on that front,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: but just trying to make sure that the fucking thing
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: with the homies, I swear that is so funny, And yeah,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to I think I'm gonna wrap up because
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: looking through I believe I've covered pretty much everything. There's
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: still that moment where Putting is like about to try
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and jump in to help Chaffon and Sanji tells her
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: not to because then you'll get branded a trader too,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and she's just like, oh, he's worried about me and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: you guys. I swear to God, if they don't wind
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: up actually getting to be a permanent couple from here on,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be so disappointed because I just really
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: enjoy this a lot.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: It's fun. It's just fun to.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Watch it really is. It's such a you know what
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it is. It's like a relief to be least from
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the perpetually horny Sanjy for a change. So we're still
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: getting the goofiness, but it's not coming from the same source,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and it's so it's not feeling so repetitive and annoying.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, also, Oven, I really really do not like
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: this guy like I want. He's over here heating up
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: the water, keeping the ship from rolling forward. And it's
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: again Pound that comes into the mix and hits Oven
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: over the head with a giant like baseball that type.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Pound is just really out here in the mix, ready
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: to throw himself on the line, and I cannot help.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: But respect that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: But yet he pulls him like Oven.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: It's not like.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Pound actually really hurt him. Oven just like who the
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: fuck did that? And pulls himself up out of the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: water in response. It's not like Pound really stopped him,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: you know. And it's that moment where he's like facing
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: down of and again where he spots Cheffon and has
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that like flashback, and I.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Just really.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Want them to actually meet up. I really hope that
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Pound gets to have his happy ending with Cheffon and
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: that it's not like, oh, he finally meets her after
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: giving up his life as he's gasping out his last
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: holding her hand and telling her I am so proud
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: of what you've become.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: And then dies.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I want Pound to really get to be in his
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: daughter's life and play with his grandson and hang out
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: with Begie like he would be a perfect fit in
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: that whole environment. I am very very hopeful about that.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: So fingers crossed.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: And trying to think.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like I just have this feeling, you guys,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: that there is something else that I am forgetting and
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I cannot remember what it is. I'll just mention that loofy,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: even though it seems like he has a better idea
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: of what he's dealing with with category when he jumps
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: back into the fight, he's not doing any better than
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: he did before.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: He's still missing him.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure where this is going because
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: from the way he was talking, it seemed as if
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: he had really begun to figure something out. But the
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: approach he's taking to the fight doesn't change. I'm sure
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: it will, but I'm just I just don't know what
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: it's going to look like. So we'll see, all right.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap this up a little bit early,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: but I've gone over so many times that I think
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: it all evens out in the end. But thank you,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: guys again so much for hang out. Appreciate you. Thank
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: you to Florian for commissioning this episode. I hope that
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: y'all are enjoying the coverage and until next time, do
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: it a little motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled network podcast.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Two