Latest / The OneCry Podcast / #183 The Supernatural Power of Prayer and Fasting - Part 1 (With Special Guest Dr. Ronnie Floyd)
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- 0:01But you've got to be willing to give yourself to a mysterious experience,
- 0:06an adventure, a spiritual adventure to see what God wants to do in you,
- 0:13through you, and around you, because that's exactly what will happen when you pray and fast.
- 0:13Music.
- 0:21Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
- 0:27The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
- 0:37Welcome to the One Cry Podcast. I'm Bill Eliff, and I am so thrilled today.
- 0:42I got one of my good buddies on with us, Ronnie Floyd.
- 0:48I'm thrilled, Ronnie, to have you on the podcast and our One Cry podcast.
- 0:54And I'm thrilled about what we're going to talk about, which we'll introduce in just a minute.
- 0:58But thanks for taking the time to join us. Bill, you and I have been on a lot
- 1:04of platforms together around the country, leading people in times of prayer and worship.
- 1:10And it's a joy to be with you. Thank God for One Cry.
- 1:13I was thinking this morning, I remember when this became a vision.
- 1:20And you guys started really taking it across the country and,
- 1:24you know, what the Lord has done.
- 1:27I mean, praise God. So thank you. Thank Byron. Thank Ben. Thank any of the leaders
- 1:32for me for this privilege today.
- 1:35Well, we'll do it. And some of you that are listening may not know Ronnie.
- 1:40If you don't, you've had your head in the ground probably at some point,
- 1:45but Ronnie has been wonderfully used.
- 1:48He spent 33 years.
- 1:51God used him to build a great, great church in the state where we both live,
- 1:55in Arkansas, in Northwest Arkansas, which is an area that's exploding.
- 2:01And so he was there, built across School of Ministry,
- 2:06which is now really turned into a full-blown
- 2:10uh seminary i guess bible teaching
- 2:13school which is phenomenal and uh
- 2:16and then ronnie was the president of the southern matters convention uh he was
- 2:21the president of the national day of prayer for several years and god has just
- 2:26used uh him in many many ways and ronnie uh our hearts have been really knit together uh.
- 2:34With our mutual passion for revival and spiritual awakening and prayer and its role in that.
- 2:42And this has always been a passion of yours and a passion of mine.
- 2:48And I know that Ronnie has just written a new book that we want to feature in
- 2:55these two podcasts today and next week.
- 2:59And you need to get called The Supernatural Power of Prayer and Fasting.
- 3:04Now, Ronnie, you wrote a book on fasting that was kind of a breakthrough book
- 3:10back in the 90s because there wasn't a lot written about that.
- 3:14Nobody was talking about it.
- 3:16And then you revised that book. Now, this is a new book, and we'll get into
- 3:20the guts of that here in just a few minutes.
- 3:24But for the listeners, tell us how you got interested in fasting.
- 3:30What took you there? And I know it was a very dramatic experience.
- 3:35And tell us a little bit about that story.
- 3:38Well, you know, Bill, when I was a college student, I had a real heart for God.
- 3:44I was chasing passionately after the Lord and went to a little Baptist school
- 3:48in Texas and had the opportunity to be introduced to a lot of great people there.
- 3:54Was raised in a church running 30 to 40 on Sunday. That's where I was saved,
- 3:58where I was called to preach. and always wanted to be a football coach,
- 4:02still want to be a football coach, but I'm a preacher.
- 4:05And so with that, you know, the Lord really began to put in my heart something
- 4:12I had heard only one years ago, those little cassette tapes,
- 4:18you know, that we used to listen to.
- 4:20I remember hearing a sermon by Manly Beasley on fasting.
- 4:27And he didn't get into the elements of it.
- 4:30He just talked about, you know, God leading you, you know, manly preached.
- 4:36And that's kind of the way it was. But it really caught my attention.
- 4:39And so I just started testing it some and developed it and learned from it.
- 4:46And all the way to where I would, you know, take a day and fast and pray,
- 4:50or then it would become three days and fast and pray.
- 4:54Became a pastor in all that time and my last year and a half of college and days in seminary and,
- 5:03became a full-time pastor then. And in that setting,
- 5:07I began to just really talk about fasting and just walk in it in my own life
- 5:15and really try to take it up to two or three days of fasting and prayer.
- 5:20And just elements came. And in 1990, my wife, Gina, was diagnosed with cancer.
- 5:27And we were youngsters in the ministry, two little boys, Josh and Nick.
- 5:33And And, you know, we were scared to death. We didn't know what was going to happen.
- 5:37Her initial report was not encouraging at all.
- 5:41And I just started fasting and praying for my wife one day a week that God would heal her body.
- 5:48And I just focused on it, walked in the promise of Isaiah 43,
- 5:531, 2, and 3, and felt that that was the word that God gave to me.
- 5:58And we saw the Lord take my wife through months of chemotherapy, months of radiation.
- 6:04We saw him walk her through surgery, and we saw God eventually heal her body
- 6:10medicinally and miraculously.
- 6:14And through that, you know, that just really took me up in understanding more.
- 6:21Time goes on. We'd have events in church and I'd call the church to fast and
- 6:26pray, which was, you know, different.
- 6:28But I did that even when I was a young pastor down on the Gulf Coast of Texas. I would do that.
- 6:35And we saw the Lord do some great things then.
- 6:38And and then in 1995, I was in in in my study one morning early, as I normally do.
- 6:45And God just really spoke to me, Bill, that he wanted me to fast and pray for
- 6:5140 days for revival in my own life, for revival in my church and revival in the nation.
- 6:58I just it was in that God took a picture for a lack of a better term and just pour out.
- 7:07The burden of revival in America in my heart. And it's never left. It's never gone.
- 7:14It's just hotter now than ever before.
- 7:17And those were transforming days in my life.
- 7:23Ended up, our church experienced a season of great revival that I think ultimately
- 7:29took the church into a whole new sphere of believing God and a commitment to
- 7:36the Great Commission and all the things that we love and adore.
- 7:41And I think one of the great reasons our church is where it is today,
- 7:46running thousands and thousands of people and the wonderful things that have
- 7:50happened through the years is goes back to that time when God changed the church and God changed me.
- 7:58I tell people this way, you know, on that day and through that season,
- 8:04And the church got a new pastor and the pastor got a new church and neither
- 8:09one of us changed our geography.
- 8:11Yeah. So beautiful. And, you know, I don't I don't know if you remember this,
- 8:16Ronnie, but I was I was at a church camp with I think some of my kids or something.
- 8:24Right. When that was all happening. That's right. And you called me and said,
- 8:30the Lord has done this work of revival.
- 8:36And you were just describing, of course, I'd heard about what was happening.
- 8:41And, and you said something like, what do I do now?
- 8:45I don't know where, you know, because it was so fresh and so real.
- 8:51And, and, and of course I just, I was just observing.
- 8:55I was just watching this beautiful thing. And I'll, I'll have to tell you,
- 8:59I watched what God was doing in you personally.
- 9:01And it was so real and, and so beautiful. And I knew, you know,
- 9:08there's something, Kyle Reno and I were talking about this the other day.
- 9:12I think I can relate almost every single of the most significant moments of
- 9:21experiencing the presence of God to times of fasting.
- 9:26That's a bold statement to make. Right.
- 9:29But I really think it's true. I've kind of gone back through my mind.
- 9:34And what is it about fasting that, and we don't fast, people don't fast.
- 9:41Now, there's a revival of fasting, I think, that's happening across our nation.
- 9:45That's right. And I think it's kind of linked to a revival of desperation.
- 9:50And some men like yourselves who have led the way in modeling this and writing
- 9:55about it that have really helped the rest of us.
- 9:58But what is it about fasting that you, the title of your new book is the supernatural
- 10:04power of prayer and fasting?
- 10:09That's a tremendous question, Bill. And I tell you, I don't understand it all
- 10:15either. I want to make that clear.
- 10:16I'm learning like everyone else. But I really believe that fasting is abstinence
- 10:22from food with a spiritual goal in mind,
- 10:28meaning we have something God has put
- 10:31on our heart to fast and pray about and
- 10:35we focus on that and we abstain
- 10:38from food in the process and we trust God through it whether it be for just
- 10:43one meal or a day or several days or a long-term fast and you know I think that
- 10:51when we do that We give up willingly because of desperation,
- 10:59because of yearning for the Lord to speak to us.
- 11:04We give up that which is most natural.
- 11:08In our lives, which is eating. Eating is very natural.
- 11:13Even Jesus said there's a time to fast and there's a time not to fast.
- 11:18So it's not like God wants us to fast all the time.
- 11:21Thank God, you know, because fasting is not easy.
- 11:24It's not always, you know, some exhilarating experience at times because your
- 11:31body changes, things change.
- 11:33You wrestle with various matters. But regardless of that,
- 11:38I think it's when we are willing to give up something that is the most natural
- 11:42thing we do in order to pursue the God of heaven,
- 11:47to do something supernatural in our lives, something we cannot do.
- 11:53And I think I think God pours that that unique power upon us in those moments,
- 12:00mainly because we are willing to sacrifice ourselves and and give up the natural
- 12:10because we want to see God do something supernatural in our lives. Yeah.
- 12:16Many, you know, it's not the end result. Many times that's within us. Right. Right.
- 12:23I I've been for a year and a half, Ronnie, I've been studying.
- 12:30How do we live a present centered life? How do we abide?
- 12:34And the great questions all of us have known moments when we have experienced
- 12:38the presence of God in extraordinary ways. But how do we live in that?
- 12:43Is it possible to live in that just to abide? And I think that's what,
- 12:47you know, the Lord said, abide 11 times in 10 verses in John 15.
- 12:53Abide, stay there, stay there, stay there.
- 12:56And as I've been studying that, what I've discovered is the problem is all the distractions.
- 13:03It just got constant. I mean, our world is just filled with distractions,
- 13:07just pull you away from the presence of the Lord.
- 13:11And, you know, we're like a dog just chasing cars, you know.
- 13:15And there's something about fasting that quiets your soul, you know,
- 13:21that just takes away those distractions.
- 13:24Food is a distraction and media is a distraction and something about laying those things aside.
- 13:32Your soul gets quiet. And I know for me in an extended fast,
- 13:37the first two or three days, I'm just kind of mad because I love food so much,
- 13:44you know, and I'm a little irritated.
- 13:46And it's usually towards the end of a fast that the Lord, it just gets real clear.
- 13:53And a deep sense of intimacy comes and I start to really hear the Lord in a
- 14:00different way, But it is supernatural, isn't it?
- 14:02It is. There's no other. I'm not saying that God can't do it another way because
- 14:08God works in a lot of different ways.
- 14:10Nor do I believe everybody's called to long term fasting.
- 14:14But I do believe deeply that any time we do it, that something happens.
- 14:23People think, well, this guy,
- 14:26whoever this guy might be or lady out here, You know, they're just fasting long-term
- 14:33all these days and days and days, you know, trying to draw, you know,
- 14:38attention to themselves.
- 14:39Well, that is really silly. That tells me right there, that person knows nothing about fasting.
- 14:44Yeah, because if you're if you're fasting long term, you don't get there unless God takes you there.
- 14:53Right, right. Who wants to do that? Yeah. The power of the flesh is great.
- 14:58You know, and we and again, what are we made to do?
- 15:01We're made to enjoy what the Lord has given us, because what fasting does at
- 15:05times, it's calling you away.
- 15:09It's you withdrawing to be with God. And, you know, Gina always says,
- 15:15I'll look forward to when you're back.
- 15:18Gina's my wife. And, you know, she goes in these journeys with me.
- 15:22But she's not, you know, angry about it.
- 15:26She's thrilled about it. But she knows something's going to happen to me.
- 15:30It's almost like God is going to take me on a journey.
- 15:34And that journey is not going to be complete until he is finished doing in me
- 15:41what he wants to do or giving me his message,
- 15:44whatever that is that I am trusting him for in relationship to those matters. Yeah.
- 15:50Well, now, Ronnie, this new book, which is going to be out, I think,
- 15:56January 7th, it'll be released and it'll be in Kindle and a beautiful leather copy of it I've seen.
- 16:06And this is different than your other books on fasting, I think, a little bit.
- 16:11And it's real comprehensive, even 40 days of devotionals in the back of it,
- 16:17one for every day of a 40-day fast that are real pertinent to that.
- 16:22But the first section has this introduction. It says, here's the chapter title,
- 16:30An Invitation from God You Cannot Decline.
- 16:36Now, don't spoil it for us because we want everybody to go out and they need
- 16:42to buy this book and devour it.
- 16:44But talk to us about what you're saying right there.
- 16:47This is an invitation from God you cannot decline.
- 16:52You know, Bill, probably one of the greatest questions I'm always asked when
- 16:59we're talking about fasting with people is they always ask this question,
- 17:04how do I know when God wants me to fast,
- 17:08which is a tremendous question.
- 17:12I have never preached the content of chapter one of the book,
- 17:19But I believe it's worth the book itself,
- 17:24that one chapter, because you should not go on a fast without that invitation
- 17:33from God being so real to you that you know you cannot decline.
- 17:41And in the book, I talk about some of those ways and things that God does in
- 17:47us to speak to us about doing that.
- 17:51I mean, for example, here's one.
- 17:55And it's restlessness. Have you ever experienced restlessness in your life? Yeah.
- 18:03Where it seemed like there was, you know, contentedness was not what it should have been.
- 18:08And you become restless, maybe restless in ministry, restless in your job,
- 18:15in the business world, restless about what you're doing.
- 18:20What is God saying about that? Here's the thing we need to remember is that
- 18:26we go through all of these emotions in life, everything that is in that first chapter of the book.
- 18:35But oftentimes we're running so fast we do not stop long enough to really ask
- 18:41God, you know, God, what are you saying to me? What are you saying?
- 18:46Another thing would be desperation.
- 18:49I mean, when you become desperate, desperate, maybe you're tired of your lukewarm
- 18:56status. You're tired of ministry without the power of God.
- 19:02You're tired of, you know, everything and, and, and what you really deeply want in your life.
- 19:10You know, you just want, you want to, you just want the Lord to do something
- 19:14in you. You're desperate.
- 19:16Maybe somebody in your family has an illness.
- 19:19Something has happened in your church and it's, and you need a miracle.
- 19:23I mean, so there are all sorts of ways God calls us.
- 19:27So what this chapter does is it takes biblical characters, biblical experiences,
- 19:31and talks about this whole element of God creating circumstances,
- 19:38God creating a moment when he says, God,
- 19:41This is what I want you to do. Yeah. And he does it.
- 19:46Wow. That is all of us.
- 19:49As you're talking, I'm just thinking of myself, you know, and everybody is as
- 19:57you as you talk, because all of us have been there moments of desperation,
- 20:01moments of helplessness, moments of need.
- 20:04And we rarely see that as an invitation from God.
- 20:08We usually think, oh, man, why do I have this? well, this, you know,
- 20:12I remember one time my brother saying to me, I had this big problem and I was
- 20:18kind of whining, you know, it was a problem in the church.
- 20:21I couldn't figure out what to do. And I was kind of whining.
- 20:24And my brother said to me, he said, he said, Bill, he said, this is not an intrusion
- 20:29to pastoring. This is pastoring.
- 20:32I've never forgotten that. It's one of the few things he said that is worth repeating.
- 20:40But anyway, you know, God, all these things I told our people a few weeks ago,
- 20:46I said, look, you have a problem in your life.
- 20:48This is not an intrusion to your life.
- 20:51This is an entrance into the presence of God for your life.
- 20:56It's it's it's God is opening a door, but you have got to step through that.
- 21:01And that's this invitation.
- 21:03God says, OK, well, you pursue me, because if you seek me, you'll find me if
- 21:07you search for me with all your heart.
- 21:09And in fasting, if he calls you to that is whether for a day or 40 days is one
- 21:18of those unique blessed calls from God to know him more deeply.
- 21:22And I remember one extended fast I went on because I had just lost my love relationship with Christ.
- 21:33And I'll never forget, Ronnie, I just every day I was just praying,
- 21:36Lord, I just want to fall in love with you all over again.
- 21:40And that is exactly what happened. It led to a extraordinary work in our church
- 21:47within the next 12 months of real revival.
- 21:51So you, you, you in the second section of this book and I, you know,
- 21:58we can't get into all the details, but you start talking about the value.
- 22:05I almost feel like it's, you know, Jesus said one time, if a man ever finds
- 22:11a value of a pearl, he'll go sell everything he has to possess it.
- 22:16And I thought about my role as a pastor years ago. So it just hit me.
- 22:21My role is to hold up the pearl and see that pearl.
- 22:27And because, you know, they don't, they don't, if I talk about the hard part of it, that's one thing.
- 22:34But if I show them the destination and this is what you get.
- 22:38So you talk about some of that.
- 22:40Get into that before we close here and we want to pray together.
- 22:44Give us a little taste of that. What is fasting going to take us into that we
- 22:53wouldn't find perhaps otherwise?
- 22:56Well, I think it's going to take you into a defining moment in your life.
- 23:01It's going to take you into what you said a moment ago when you were talking
- 23:06about abiding in Christ, remaining in Christ, continuing in Christ.
- 23:11Fasting is going to take you perhaps to the will of God of experiencing his
- 23:19presence and in a brand new way.
- 23:24Fasting can take you into a
- 23:26lot of different places. And God works uniquely in each one of our lives.
- 23:32He may overwhelm you with an understanding of how powerful he is, how holy he is.
- 23:42I know that has happened to me numerous
- 23:46times in fasting. It's just being overcome by the holiness of God.
- 23:52Because what happens when you fast and pray over the course of the first few
- 23:57days, whatever that may be, you know, God, God cleans all the junk out of your life.
- 24:04And then you think you're done with it. And then, you know, a little bit further,
- 24:09he reveals a little more, you know, like that junk room your mama would have in the house.
- 24:14She said, don't you dare open that door if somebody's here. Yeah. You keep the door shut.
- 24:19And that's somewhat like that in our hearts at times.
- 24:23And so I think that we just have to, we have to be willing to enter into,
- 24:29and I'm not trying to be weird or, you know, you're starting to hear crazy music
- 24:34go on here, but you've got to be willing to give yourself to a mysterious experience, an adventure,
- 24:41a spiritual adventure to see what God wants to do in you,
- 24:46through you, and around you, because that's exactly what will happen when you
- 24:53pray and fast. That's so beautiful.
- 24:56Well, this new book, The Supernatural Power of Prayer and Fasting,
- 25:02is, in fact, as you hear this podcast, it's out January 7th.
- 25:09And we want to encourage you to get it.
- 25:12And, you know, Ronnie's not trying to sell books. I promise you that.
- 25:18He knows the power of this and understands the spiritual nature of it.
- 25:23But, you know, the greatest thing you get, and Ronnie would echo this,
- 25:28the greatest thing you get when you fast is you get God.
- 25:33And he's what you need. He's what your church needs.
- 25:37He's what your family needs. And this is one of the means that God has given
- 25:42us to get to him, to encounter him, to experience his presence in a deeper way.
- 25:50And that's what revival is. It's a return to him.
- 25:54I heard Richard Owen Roberts one time, Ronnie, say, I can define revival in one word. It's God.
- 26:05It's God returning to his rightful place in your heart, in your home, in your church.
- 26:12And so that's what all of us want and what we desperately need.
- 26:16And right now, God is moving across our nation, and we're going to be talking
- 26:22in the month of January here about positioning yourself for revival, because you can miss it.
- 26:29It can be going on all around you.
- 26:32And for a number of reasons, it could just go right past you,
- 26:37and you miss it while others are experiencing God in a whole new way.
- 26:41So, fasting is one of those means that God has to take us there.
- 26:45And Ronnie, we really appreciate you joining us.
- 26:48And I think you can join us for one more podcast.
- 26:51Absolutely. And we love on our One Cry podcast.
- 26:57To invite our people to walk into the presence of God and pray.
- 27:01And so I'm going to ask you if you would to lead us in that,
- 27:05and maybe just about this whole area of pursuing the Lord to greater means.
- 27:12And that God would help them experience that.
- 27:14And so would you just pray for that? And we're going to pray with you,
- 27:17not just listen to you pray.
- 27:19We're going to pray with you as you lead us.
- 27:23Thank you, and I will do it. Let's pray. Father in heaven,
- 27:26in the powerful and strong name of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God,
- 27:32the one who gave himself completely for our lives and for the forgiveness of
- 27:39our sins and the one who will one day come again.
- 27:43Yes. To you, we give you the praise and the glory today, and we enter into your
- 27:49presence only by and through the blood of Jesus and the name of Jesus.
- 27:54And we ask you today that every person who is listening right now, God has them listening.
- 28:03God has them watching.
- 28:04God has working. And there is nothing, there is nothing that happens around
- 28:11us that we're exposed to, that the Lord does not want to speak to us.
- 28:16And Lord, whoever you are speaking to today, I pray that they will hear what
- 28:22the Spirit of God is saying to them.
- 28:25If there are pastors on here today, and I'm sure there are, may they hear what
- 28:30the Spirit of God is saying to their church.
- 28:33Lord, there's so much out there, so much noise, so many distractions.
- 28:38But I pray in the beginning of this year, as we position ourselves for spiritual revival,
- 28:45the manifested presence of God being experienced individually and collectively
- 28:51as the body of Christ, We pray that, Lord,
- 28:55you would do such wonderful and great things that it is way beyond what we can
- 29:02even imagine or would have ever even asked you for.
- 29:05God, bring revival to church after church after church in this nation,
- 29:10to the church in America and around the world.
- 29:15And, Lord, bring awakening to the country. All the nation is so lost,
- 29:22lost, lost without Jesus.
- 29:24And we pray that millions this year will come to know Jesus because revival
- 29:31happens in the church. Yes.
- 29:35Give it to you and we give you glory. Work in the people's hearts.
- 29:40Call them to fast. Call them to pray.
- 29:43Call them to prepare for revival is on the way. and we pray this in Jesus name. Amen.
- 29:51Amen. Amen. Thanks so much, Ronnie.
- 29:54And thanks for taking the time to be with us. And thank you as you've been listening.
- 29:59I pray that God has spoken to your heart and I pray as Ronnie just prayed that
- 30:04the Lord will call you to a fast.
- 30:07That's his business. And we know he's got to, he does the calling,
- 30:11but I pray you'll find that stirring and then God will give you the grace to obey him.
- 30:18Because I know that if you obey him in that, he'll take you to some supernatural places.
- 30:26So thanks for joining us and don't miss next week. We're going to head down
- 30:30this trail a little farther and thank you for joining.
- 30:34Music.