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- 1:27Speaker 1: M hm track trad wise, Women Back, Women Back, Welcome
- 1:33Speaker 1: to any other episode of the episode of retaining frame
- 1:37Speaker 1: number one seventeen for the pendance or who are keeping track?
- 1:41Speaker 1: And I think I pronounced everything correctly, Brian, so go me.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm doing that. That's that's correct.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Although your camera is being uh, it's like you're really choppy.
- 1:55Speaker 2: You're really choppy.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, just give me a sec here, you
- 1:59Speaker 1: close some of those porn tabs and my trad life
- 2:07Speaker 1: fetish tag. Yeah, because I'm an obvious trad life fetishist,
- 2:13Speaker 1: as you can see from my demeanor. Shall we say,
- 2:17Speaker 1: let's call it that, all right? So we're going to
- 2:20Speaker 1: be discussing a video.
- 2:23Speaker 2: From this A request from U A request.
- 2:28Speaker 1: This was actually a request from Richard Pierre, who gives
- 2:31Speaker 1: us a lot of requests. And I mean, honestly, some
- 2:35Speaker 1: of this stuff we might not have taken a look
- 2:37Speaker 1: at otherwise. But it's good to know what's happening in
- 2:39Speaker 1: the female dating strategy sphere. And I suppose this is
- 2:43Speaker 1: actually more classic feminist analysis. So yeah, I think I
- 2:48Speaker 1: think it's good to take a look at this stuff
- 2:50Speaker 1: because this is sort of the heartbeat of the male
- 2:55Speaker 1: female relationship end of the culture war. And from my angle,
- 3:00Speaker 1: from my vantage point, that's pretty much the heart of
- 3:02Speaker 1: the culture war. What really boils down to is a
- 3:06Speaker 1: society that's at war with masculinity. And yeah, so that
- 3:12Speaker 1: is true. The main premise of this is that women
- 3:15Speaker 1: who get into relationships with men and that is their
- 3:18Speaker 1: primary source of income and self worth, as if that
- 3:22Speaker 1: isn't the case for the man as well. But let's
- 3:24Speaker 1: set that aside. Women like that are betraying the sisterhood
- 3:28Speaker 1: or are going to be horribly exploited because everybody needs
- 3:33Speaker 1: to be a wage slave in the communist utopia.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Mm hmm mm hmm. Or at least yeah, it makes
- 3:41Speaker 2: perfect sense. Although I think, like I'm.
- 3:44Speaker 3: At the point now where what I think is going
- 3:47Speaker 3: on is people are feminists.
- 3:50Speaker 2: They're just trying to burn everything down.
- 3:52Speaker 3: And the reason is because they don't feel like they
- 3:54Speaker 3: can truly begin to, you know, get to whatever their
- 4:00Speaker 3: utopic vision of the society is until all of the
- 4:05Speaker 3: old ways are gone. So it's all It isn't really
- 4:09Speaker 3: about changing things so much as it is about destroying
- 4:13Speaker 3: everything and then starting anew And I mean that's what
- 4:18Speaker 3: I have seen and it's been written about in this way.
- 4:22Speaker 3: So you know, it starts with simple things like demonizing masculinity.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Why because it's really easy because.
- 4:27Speaker 3: People are generally not going to complain or make a
- 4:30Speaker 3: fuss because yeah, you know, we already take men for granted.
- 4:34Speaker 1: So yeah, And what's interesting is that the individuals who
- 4:40Speaker 1: are involved in all of this are appealing to some
- 4:43Speaker 1: really essentialist notions about gender at the same time as
- 4:46Speaker 1: somehow gender is a spectrum and fluid, but men are
- 4:50Speaker 1: more rapey and oppressive.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Yep, okay, So anyway, let's get into the video.
- 4:56Speaker 3: So the video we're looking at is called The Tradwives
- 4:58Speaker 3: of TikTok by a YouTube content creator named Funky frog
- 5:04Speaker 3: Bait who has two point one million.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Subscribers, so pretty popular.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Channel two point one million is not in the snut
- 5:15Speaker 3: to to uh you know, sneeze at. Yeah, so let's
- 5:20Speaker 3: see what she has to say. I've already got some
- 5:22Speaker 3: time codes here. I went through the transcript. I wanted
- 5:26Speaker 3: to start with something that sort of like sets the tone.
- 5:28Speaker 3: So this isn't so much a thesis but a tone setter.
- 5:32Speaker 1: It's like your your you're, you're, you're serving this as
- 5:36Speaker 1: like a lunch. You're serving us up. Yeah, positive spin
- 5:43Speaker 1: you know.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Let me.
- 5:45Speaker 3: I'm gonna refresh your camera. Are you using an el
- 5:48Speaker 3: Gatto virtual camera?
- 5:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm using the Elgado virtual camera.
- 5:52Speaker 2: So yeah, in the meantime, even though.
- 5:55Speaker 1: You can't really see me, I could do the things.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, I don't know.
- 5:59Speaker 3: It might cut out your audio, but I'm gonna do
- 6:01Speaker 3: a quick refresh. Oh yeah, it's still it's still pretty awful.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Okay, I can do the things, but I think probably
- 6:12Speaker 1: the only thing I can really do is leave and
- 6:14Speaker 1: come back.
- 6:15Speaker 2: And then are you using Yeah?
- 6:17Speaker 3: You might, you might because it's I don't know, Like,
- 6:20Speaker 3: I don't think these are gonna make for great shorts
- 6:23Speaker 3: because your camera is really jank.
- 6:25Speaker 2: So I could change. I can actually control what camera
- 6:28Speaker 2: you use from here.
- 6:30Speaker 3: I could change it to a FaceTime camera, dire Hawk's
- 6:32Speaker 3: phone camera.
- 6:33Speaker 2: I'm not going to I'm just saying I can.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I have what it looks like. Okay, let me just
- 6:38Speaker 1: see what that looks like. Are you changing Well, yeah,
- 6:44Speaker 1: I just changed it. That looks a little.
- 6:46Speaker 2: I don't see anything, but the angle is different.
- 6:48Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like angle we get smug Allison from this angle.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe then try leave and come back. Try
- 6:59Speaker 2: that because uh.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll do that really right, you could you
- 7:04Speaker 1: maybe announced the you got the relevant details for the event.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell them about it while you're doing that.
- 7:09Speaker 3: So just you know, we are currently trying to raise
- 7:16Speaker 3: some support for a meetup. So we haven't done a
- 7:20Speaker 3: meet up in over five years. The last time we
- 7:23Speaker 3: got to meet up was in twenty nineteen, so it's
- 7:27Speaker 3: been about five years and now we're going to try
- 7:30Speaker 3: and like make it happen again, which it hasn't in
- 7:34Speaker 3: a while.
- 7:35Speaker 2: It looks like it's working now.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Oh great, Yeah, so that was what it was. I
- 7:38Speaker 1: had to leave and come back sometimes.
- 7:42Speaker 2: I was just talking about the meet up. So if
- 7:43Speaker 2: you want to like, you know, finish there.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you guys said.
- 7:47Speaker 3: All I've said is that we haven't done a meetup
- 7:49Speaker 3: in like five years.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Oh god, no, yeah, it's been it's been a time, guys,
- 7:53Speaker 1: it's been yeah. Yeah, and now we're probably on a
- 7:57Speaker 1: safe Sky's watch list, so it's going to be an interesting.
- 8:02Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:02Speaker 1: So the meetup is going to be the twenty eighth
- 8:04Speaker 1: of September, so this month, in about well a little
- 8:06Speaker 1: over two weeks in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. If you want
- 8:10Speaker 1: more details on it, you can go to feed the
- 8:11Speaker 1: Badger dot com slash events. I'm still putting on a
- 8:14Speaker 1: fundraiser to make sure we can cover the cost of travel,
- 8:17Speaker 1: which is not cheap, shall we say. But again, so
- 8:21Speaker 1: put that in your calendars, and if you are in
- 8:23Speaker 1: the region, please do come out and completely unintentionally, we're
- 8:29Speaker 1: having our meetup on the same day that Justin Trace
- 8:33Speaker 1: is having his I think it's annual conference on Men's Ish,
- 8:38Speaker 1: Men's and Father's Issues in I believe Toronto, or yeah,
- 8:42Speaker 1: I think it's Toronto. So if you want, if you're
- 8:45Speaker 1: interested in that and you're on the western side of Canada,
- 8:47Speaker 1: are there the eastern side of Canada and you have
- 8:50Speaker 1: a hankering for some men's issues content, you can go
- 8:53Speaker 1: over to the Canadian Center for Men and Families website
- 8:57Speaker 1: and take a look at that, or you can come
- 8:59Speaker 1: see and maybe next year we can coordinate this a
- 9:02Speaker 1: bit better. So it's not overlacting. But you know, I'm
- 9:06Speaker 1: pretty sure that our our event will be you know,
- 9:08Speaker 1: fairly intimate, shall we say, would say small, but intimate
- 9:11Speaker 1: sounds better, but.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say low key.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Low key. Yeah, it's gonna be a low yeah, just
- 9:17Speaker 1: have nice conversations, sit out in the park, eat some cheese,
- 9:21Speaker 1: not me because I'm allergic to cheese, but I could
- 9:24Speaker 1: eat some vegetables and you know, have some have some
- 9:27Speaker 1: smoked meats, and.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Yeah, just smoke cigars.
- 9:32Speaker 1: He smokes. Yeah, you know, it's just relax.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Just typical badgery things.
- 9:40Speaker 3: So yeah, and you already mentioned the link and all that.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. So again, it's uh September twenty eighth,
- 9:48Speaker 1: so a little bit over two weeks from now in Calgary, Alberta, Canada,
- 9:52Speaker 1: and it will mostly it would probably be taking place
- 9:55Speaker 1: in reader Rock Garden at least the initial park, probably
- 10:00Speaker 1: walk around to do other stuff depending on what happens.
- 10:04Speaker 1: So mark that in your calendars. And if you want
- 10:06Speaker 1: any more information, feed the badger dot com slash events.
- 10:09Speaker 1: So feed the Badger dot com slash events. And if
- 10:11Speaker 1: you want to send us a message in any point
- 10:13Speaker 1: throughout the show, feed the Badger dot com slash just
- 10:15Speaker 1: the tip, because yeah, you're you know, it's the very
- 10:19Speaker 1: best way to send us whatever funds you want to
- 10:21Speaker 1: send us in a tip And the very best way
- 10:23Speaker 1: for you to send your comment, not through YouTube's comment
- 10:26Speaker 1: system as it were.
- 10:28Speaker 3: Yep, all right, so let's get into the video.
- 10:33Speaker 2: So we're gonna open up with this.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Opening tonetter is what you were saying? Yes, Oh, it's
- 10:40Speaker 1: the egg apron Gawk.
- 10:46Speaker 5: Where she has over nine point six million followers.
- 10:49Speaker 1: She might have come a feeling jealous.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I yeah, I think so for sure. All right,
- 10:57Speaker 3: I'm gonna play some more.
- 10:58Speaker 5: Meals from scratch while a ball team roster of children
- 11:01Speaker 5: trade turns clinging to her. Hell, she's one step away
- 11:05Speaker 5: from making the mozzarella for this slasagna with her own
- 11:07Speaker 5: breast milk. What do you think her?
- 11:13Speaker 3: She's okay, So this is what I gather from this person. Okay,
- 11:18Speaker 3: Funky frog Bait is a theater kid, because all these
- 11:23Speaker 3: people are theater kids who.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Want to be at once.
- 11:30Speaker 3: Like a hipster, used record store employee, lesbian, you know, feminist,
- 11:38Speaker 3: and also Janine Garoffalo comedian. So she's doing these like
- 11:43Speaker 3: dry delivery jokes that are right out of like the
- 11:47Speaker 3: unfortunately the Daily Show, you know, Samantha Bee, like.
- 11:53Speaker 2: It's just if we.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Laugh laugh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you laugh, you lose, right,
- 12:00Speaker 3: I'm not gonna laugh at her jokes, but I'm just saying,
- 12:02Speaker 3: this is like the quality of shit we're gonna.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Get to be like the theater kids against the art kids.
- 12:10Speaker 2: The theater kids have taken over our culture. They have.
- 12:16Speaker 3: They are making the video games, they are making the movies,
- 12:19Speaker 3: they are making the TV shows, they are writing the literature,
- 12:22Speaker 3: and they think and they're certain, no, yeah, it's crap.
- 12:26Speaker 3: But they're also simultaneously trying to expose us to their
- 12:30Speaker 3: art while also burning everything down. And this woman is
- 12:35Speaker 3: just I mean, I think she thinks that she's like
- 12:37Speaker 3: standing out in a crowd. All I see is a
- 12:40Speaker 3: checklist of this is what you have to do to
- 12:43Speaker 3: be as unappealing to anyone as possible, especially normal people.
- 12:49Speaker 2: It starts with the nose ring.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Sorry, but the nose ring is like done, a dead giveaway,
- 12:54Speaker 3: Like okay, you are one of them, You're cooked.
- 12:56Speaker 2: But anyway, I gotta gotta read, yeah, go.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Ahead, all right, before before we continue, I just want
- 13:03Speaker 1: to where are the art kids and all of this?
- 13:06Speaker 1: Like you were, Okay, you were.
- 13:08Speaker 3: I mean I think that a lot of the kids
- 13:10Speaker 3: are they are kids too, Like I mean, I think
- 13:13Speaker 3: I'm the weird exception that doesn't find any disappealing. I
- 13:16Speaker 3: think that most of the art. So this is what
- 13:18Speaker 3: I really think, Okay, I think the kids that went
- 13:21Speaker 3: to theater school and art school that actually don't know
- 13:24Speaker 3: how to draw, paint, or act or sing or dance
- 13:27Speaker 3: or perform in any way, they're the ones that end
- 13:30Speaker 3: up doing this stuff.
- 13:32Speaker 2: They're like, this is.
- 13:33Speaker 3: Their comp Like I got, I'm six figures in debt.
- 13:37Speaker 3: It could be, but like I'll you know what, I'm not.
- 13:39Speaker 3: I'm not going to be bothered by that because you know,
- 13:43Speaker 3: but there it's revenge for college debt. That's what this is,
- 13:48Speaker 3: like collective punishment for their college debt.
- 13:52Speaker 1: And yet the whole line of this is, you know,
- 13:54Speaker 1: be a wage slave. That's empowerment for women.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Yep.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Okay, and she is.
- 14:01Speaker 3: She won't tell you this, but she is definitely a narcissist.
- 14:03Speaker 3: And I have a clip that proves it.
- 14:05Speaker 1: But okay, I just I just want to say. The
- 14:09Speaker 1: reason why I say there seems to be like it
- 14:10Speaker 1: maybe a difference in art is because you have the
- 14:13Speaker 1: artists that really seem to focus on attention, right, so
- 14:18Speaker 1: the theater kids and possibly also like the spectacle artists
- 14:23Speaker 1: as well, so they they're what they're interested in is
- 14:25Speaker 1: a performance and attention. And then you have the artists,
- 14:28Speaker 1: you like, go into a cave and by themselves construct
- 14:34Speaker 1: a work of art. You know what I mean?
- 14:36Speaker 2: The difference, Yeah, yeah, but I mean the ladder the
- 14:39Speaker 2: ladder is.
- 14:40Speaker 3: The ladder is very rare, That's what I'm saying. The
- 14:44Speaker 3: former is very common. And I think that they're only
- 14:47Speaker 3: artists because they call themselves artists, not because they actually
- 14:50Speaker 3: craft anything of value.
- 14:52Speaker 2: But I'm I'm.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Gonna point out that she she is trying to dunk
- 14:57Speaker 3: on this woman that she, for whatever reason, doesn't like.
- 15:00Speaker 2: And this is the thing. This woman she said she has.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Like nine million followers or something on Instagram, right, some
- 15:07Speaker 3: crazy high number, and she finds that dangerous that women
- 15:12Speaker 3: are choosing to follow this person because she doesn't like
- 15:16Speaker 3: what this person does. But anyway, and that's why she
- 15:21Speaker 3: makes his crack about breast milk and that her husband
- 15:24Speaker 3: is like you know this like uh son of the
- 15:28Speaker 3: founder of Jet Blue, Azul and Breeze Airways, so like.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Super rich family.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Okay, I thought women were supposed to be getting that
- 15:36Speaker 3: bag though, Like, isn't that the bag that's a pretty
- 15:39Speaker 3: big bag.
- 15:40Speaker 1: That's a big bag for her to Yeah, and also
- 15:42Speaker 1: all those followers. Man, she's banking. She got giant bag,
- 15:46Speaker 1: this woman. And like, even if it doesn't work out
- 15:49Speaker 1: with wow, like this this guy.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Looks like, that's not the guy she married. That's that's
- 15:55Speaker 3: not the guy she married. That's that's his Uh that's
- 15:57Speaker 3: his father.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that's her father law effectively, Yeah.
- 16:02Speaker 1: He's sort of a silver fox, you know.
- 16:03Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like you know, some like mad Men character,
- 16:10Speaker 3: very straightlaced.
- 16:11Speaker 1: But anyway, but my ultimate point is that I think
- 16:15Speaker 1: maybe we could say it's the artists who work in
- 16:19Speaker 1: isolation because a lot of like painting and writing, if
- 16:22Speaker 1: you're gonna do it very well, it's you have to
- 16:25Speaker 1: just sit there with your own thoughts for a long time.
- 16:28Speaker 1: And then you have the theater kids, Yeah, which can also
- 16:31Speaker 1: be right. I also try to turn writing and artistry
- 16:35Speaker 1: into some kind of social performance to its detriment, which
- 16:39Speaker 1: is why everything sucks.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Now.
- 16:43Speaker 1: I brought it around. I brought it around. There you go.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm okay with the generalization. I'm not
- 16:49Speaker 3: infected by it, but okay, let me, let me play
- 16:54Speaker 3: some more of the video. First, I got a super
- 16:58Speaker 3: chow from Shouldierre. He gives us five bucks and says,
- 17:01Speaker 3: are you going to open the meet up with the
- 17:03Speaker 3: mandatory land acknowledgment as required by law for any event
- 17:07Speaker 3: held on public property?
- 17:10Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a yes. I suppose we can,
- 17:12Speaker 2: I guess.
- 17:13Speaker 1: So we'll research that and we'll do it. If it
- 17:16Speaker 1: is mandatory. All right, let's if.
- 17:18Speaker 3: It's the law, we got to follow it. Okay, let's
- 17:20Speaker 3: play some more of the video.
- 17:26Speaker 5: Thirteen years for her birthday. I'll give you a hint.
- 17:30Speaker 5: It's not tickets to grease, not even with that sweet
- 17:33Speaker 5: family discount.
- 17:36Speaker 1: A hat I can wear grease my egg gay friend,
- 17:45Speaker 1: my egg apron. She even says my egg apron.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Yep.
- 17:54Speaker 1: So this is something that she's obviously hinted at. And
- 18:00Speaker 1: let's be frank, she's a woman. So this isn't just
- 18:03Speaker 1: the egg apron and the functionality of the apron. It
- 18:07Speaker 1: also is a statement about how she's modest and humble
- 18:12Speaker 1: and you know, family focused, and she works the farm.
- 18:16Speaker 1: You know, she's she is an Instagram influencer or whatever
- 18:20Speaker 1: it is.
- 18:20Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but also it's a it's also a testament
- 18:24Speaker 3: to her husband, because what I'm guessing is is that
- 18:28Speaker 3: she either asked directly for it or she dropped hints about.
- 18:33Speaker 2: What she wanted and he listened and he inferred and
- 18:36Speaker 2: was like, oh.
- 18:37Speaker 3: I'll get her this thing, and like so this For
- 18:41Speaker 3: some reason, I don't get why this video because I'm
- 18:45Speaker 3: sure this, you know, woman makes content all the time,
- 18:47Speaker 3: But for some reason, this video of her getting the
- 18:49Speaker 3: egg apron is.
- 18:50Speaker 2: The thing that feminists are latching onto.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Yeah, like ah, and not just feminists, but the female
- 18:57Speaker 1: dating strategy people who are like, okay, yeah, back, girlfriend,
- 19:00Speaker 1: be a soil princess. And you know why it is?
- 19:04Speaker 1: It's because I think this, this hits right to the
- 19:06Speaker 1: heart of their materialism. Now, she could just she could
- 19:10Speaker 1: be just a really genuine person and very humble and
- 19:13Speaker 1: very interested in improving her egg game, shall we say,
- 19:18Speaker 1: Or this could be an act for her followers and
- 19:22Speaker 1: because it's part of her stick, which is possible, I
- 19:25Speaker 1: can't tell. I don't know her. But the point is
- 19:28Speaker 1: that she's demonstrating humbleness and simplicity and being happy with
- 19:33Speaker 1: something that isn't hugely expensive, because what does this woman
- 19:38Speaker 1: start with? This isn't these aren't tickets to Greece. This
- 19:41Speaker 1: isn't a gigantic rock for her finger.
- 19:44Speaker 2: No, well, there's more. We should watch the rest of
- 19:46Speaker 2: the clip.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Let's watch the rest, all right, So let's.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Watch the rest of the clip. All right, we got
- 19:50Speaker 2: when we switched to the source. You're welcome.
- 19:55Speaker 5: People really didn't enjoy watching the light leave at de
- 19:58Speaker 5: mirror housewife's after opening a disappointing gift while her husband
- 20:03Speaker 5: loomed over her and demanded her gratitude for some strange reason.
- 20:09Speaker 1: But baby, yes, yes, yes, that's why you didn't like it.
- 20:13Speaker 3: That's that's the real message that she's sending. And of
- 20:17Speaker 3: course it requires her feminist telepathy to understand that the
- 20:22Speaker 3: man was actually looming over her making demands, and that
- 20:26Speaker 3: the woman was terrified of her husband. This girl, by
- 20:30Speaker 3: the way, has a boyfriend. She's talked about it in
- 20:33Speaker 3: the video. Guys, raise your standards. Jesus Christ. You can
- 20:41Speaker 3: do better than this. I don't care what he looks like.
- 20:44Speaker 2: You can do better than this. Go ahead.
- 20:47Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean her boyfriend. I mean this
- 20:50Speaker 3: feminist woman's that. Yeah, I don't know what he looks like,
- 20:53Speaker 3: but I don't care. He should raise his standards.
- 20:56Speaker 1: This is still female female competition. I know that, yeah,
- 21:00Speaker 1: squeezed in the middle of it, but I'm guaranteed this
- 21:02Speaker 1: is about this whole presentation, this whole performance, the performance
- 21:06Speaker 1: of a particular type of femininity being in conflict with
- 21:10Speaker 1: the performance of her particular type of femininity. And only
- 21:13Speaker 1: one shell reign only one what is it the the highlander?
- 21:16Speaker 1: There can be only only one femininity, And they use
- 21:22Speaker 1: all kinds of tactics, including insinuation that the man is
- 21:27Speaker 1: somehow oppressing or abusing her, which is a really not
- 21:34Speaker 1: doesn't I didn't see the light leave her eyes, especially
- 21:38Speaker 1: when she refers to it as my egg apron like,
- 21:43Speaker 1: And this is what they do. They inject poison into
- 21:45Speaker 1: people's perfectly happy, apparent relationships. If those relationships don't fall
- 21:51Speaker 1: along the lines that they approve of, that provides them
- 21:54Speaker 1: their bag essentially, So this is just women arguing over bags.
- 21:59Speaker 1: They tell that this she's just like you, don't You
- 22:01Speaker 1: don't deserve that. That's the wrong bag for you to have,
- 22:05Speaker 1: Lady an egg bag. No, that's wrong. You shouldn't have that,
- 22:09Speaker 1: You shouldn't want that, you shouldn't be in that scenario.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Because it undermines my bag, which is whatever this is. Yeah, okay, all.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Right, I've got a super chat or a super child
- 22:23Speaker 3: rather from Disposition guys, and it gives us twenty five bucks.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Thank you, Disposition and says I.
- 22:29Speaker 3: Rarely get to catch you guys lives, so I wanted
- 22:31Speaker 3: to send you some support your way.
- 22:33Speaker 2: You guys are saving lives out here.
- 22:35Speaker 3: I don't know if I would have been able to
- 22:37Speaker 3: heal as much as I have over the last few
- 22:39Speaker 3: years without the Badgers. Without you guys, I don't know
- 22:42Speaker 3: if I would have ever realized it's possible to have
- 22:44Speaker 3: a positive identity as a man. Thanks again, and keep
- 22:47Speaker 3: up all the great work. Well, thank you, Disposition guy.
- 22:50Speaker 3: It really means a lot that you that you sent that. Yeah,
- 22:54Speaker 3: I mean, I feel very strongly about masculine identity and
- 23:00Speaker 3: I have ever since I got involved with this, because
- 23:02Speaker 3: I've seen a sick a sickness basically running through our
- 23:07Speaker 3: society and it's targeting our men. So yeah, I'm I'm
- 23:12Speaker 3: glad that you are doing all right and that you're
- 23:15Speaker 3: hanging in there all right.
- 23:17Speaker 2: So it's good to hear.
- 23:18Speaker 1: It's nice to hear that we Yeah, helps, We've helped them.
- 23:23Speaker 3: I just want to look point out this look that
- 23:26Speaker 3: she's got going on. I know he's gonna seem petty,
- 23:28Speaker 3: but I just got to point out it's not going
- 23:30Speaker 3: to age well, like this is like you know how
- 23:33Speaker 3: it was really cool to like, you know, clown on
- 23:37Speaker 3: guys with mullets like in the two thousands, Like.
- 23:40Speaker 2: This is going to be that Like this right here.
- 23:42Speaker 3: I don't know what she's going for, but like, what's
- 23:45Speaker 3: with these glass I just this look? It just drives
- 23:48Speaker 3: me up the wall. Nobody wears suits like this. Do
- 23:51Speaker 3: you think you're being like you're gender bending with this?
- 23:54Speaker 3: I think she does. She she mentions that she's queer
- 23:56Speaker 3: but also has a boyfriend. Queerness doesn't mean anything, guys,
- 24:00Speaker 3: it doesn't. It's a political statement only.
- 24:03Speaker 2: All I said.
- 24:04Speaker 1: It's a performance, like she is performing a certain type
- 24:08Speaker 1: of what well, femininity, Like this is a femininity. This
- 24:12Speaker 1: is the new woman. Which is interesting because I'm reading
- 24:18Speaker 1: Bram Strokers Dracula, and in one of Mina's one of
- 24:23Speaker 1: his victims diaries, she talks about being judged by the
- 24:28Speaker 1: new woman, which I guess was emergent suffragettes in that
- 24:33Speaker 1: time period or whatever, and how the new woman wouldn't
- 24:37Speaker 1: appreciate the things that she does. And it's just interesting
- 24:40Speaker 1: that even back then, in the eighteen hundreds, they were
- 24:43Speaker 1: still this was still a thing. Or actually I guess
- 24:46Speaker 1: it wouldn't. Yeah, it would be the eighteen hundreds, not
- 24:48Speaker 1: the nineteen hundreds. Or no, it would be the nineteen hundreds,
- 24:51Speaker 1: not the eighteen hundreds. Eighteen hundreds was different. Okay, would
- 24:54Speaker 1: be the nineteen hundreds. Okay, I got that. But anyway,
- 24:56Speaker 1: it's just interesting how that that conflict was still there then,
- 25:00Speaker 1: like this conflict between these two types of femininity inflicting
- 25:08Speaker 1: women women, Like when men get caught in this, they're
- 25:12Speaker 1: caught in the Crofts fire, because this is an argument
- 25:15Speaker 1: over how to structure the apportioning of resources. This is
- 25:20Speaker 1: basically chimps throwing poop at each other, female chimps throwing
- 25:24Speaker 1: poop at each other over a banana tree, except one
- 25:28Speaker 1: chimp is just eating her bananas. The other ones are
- 25:32Speaker 1: just throwing poop, and they couch it because they don't
- 25:35Speaker 1: want to be seen as a bitch. Right, this woman
- 25:37Speaker 1: doesn't want to be seen as a bitch, so she
- 25:40Speaker 1: constructs the threat narrative instead of against the woman. I
- 25:44Speaker 1: really need to update my threat narrative series. But she
- 25:46Speaker 1: instead of constructing a threat narrative against the woman, she
- 25:49Speaker 1: constructs a threat threat narrative against whatever is providing her
- 25:54Speaker 1: the lifestyle that she has obviously chosen. Do you see that?
- 25:58Speaker 1: And it's I mean, in this case, yeah, it could
- 26:02Speaker 1: be a system, it could be whatever. She's constructing a
- 26:04Speaker 1: threat narrative because she's using this affectation of victimhood in
- 26:09Speaker 1: order to delegitimate what this woman has constructed for herself.
- 26:13Speaker 1: So she is actually attacking it. And the reason why
- 26:17Speaker 1: she does that is because she doesn't want to seem
- 26:19Speaker 1: like a bitch, Like she could just totally mean girl
- 26:22Speaker 1: all over this woman and say you're you're dragging down
- 26:25Speaker 1: your sisters and you're you're you're a cunt and you
- 26:28Speaker 1: just want blah blah blah. But it's hard because this
- 26:30Speaker 1: woman seems like a very pleasant human being, right, and
- 26:33Speaker 1: a very non ju maybe non judgmental, maybe just humble
- 26:37Speaker 1: and happy. You know. So if you go for the
- 26:40Speaker 1: direct attack, the direct threat narrative attack, it's gonna be
- 26:43Speaker 1: very difficult, right, It's you're gonna look like a caddy bitch.
- 26:47Speaker 1: But so what you do is you go for the
- 26:49Speaker 1: indirect attack and you construct a threat narrative around whatever
- 26:52Speaker 1: it is that supports her. And then but again it's
- 26:56Speaker 1: all just female competition. Men really don't figure into this
- 27:02Speaker 1: except that she wants to attack this egg apron lady
- 27:06Speaker 1: and she does not want to be appear to be
- 27:09Speaker 1: anti female, even.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Though she's a feminist. So she has to like, you know,
- 27:14Speaker 3: be pro woman while attacking a woman, and the best
- 27:18Speaker 3: way to do it is through a proxy, which is
- 27:20Speaker 3: the man.
- 27:21Speaker 1: But it also she's you know, like women tend to
- 27:24Speaker 1: at least pretend to be on each other's sides, and
- 27:27Speaker 1: they want to maintain that and if you if you
- 27:29Speaker 1: defy that, then you become a bad woman. So she
- 27:32Speaker 1: wants to avoid that. So she wants to give the
- 27:34Speaker 1: appearance of supporting the sisterhood while attacking this woman in
- 27:39Speaker 1: an insidious, nefarious and in many ways very cruel way.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Mean girl.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, then let us get back to the video.
- 27:51Speaker 2: I have the next time code up here.
- 27:54Speaker 3: And we're going to go ahead and put that up
- 27:56Speaker 3: and play it to Daniel.
- 28:00Speaker 5: Daniel insists that he wanted to marry Hannah the moment
- 28:03Speaker 5: he laid eyes on her, but that Hannah dodged his
- 28:06Speaker 5: advances for six months. One day, when Hannah offhandedly mentioned
- 28:11Speaker 5: her flight back to Juilliard, Daniel pulled strings at Jet
- 28:14Speaker 5: Blue since his father was an owner, and made sure
- 28:17Speaker 5: that he got the seat right next to hers, which
- 28:20Speaker 5: is uh so romantic horrifying?
- 28:24Speaker 1: Well, is it because Obama's wife, Like he courted her
- 28:29Speaker 1: in a similar way for months, So if you find
- 28:33Speaker 1: that horrifying, you're gonna also have to find it horrifying
- 28:35Speaker 1: for Obama. And I'm pretty sure that he's almost a
- 28:38Speaker 1: saint in the canon of these individuals.
- 28:44Speaker 3: You're thinking, well, it kind of pisses me off, But
- 28:47Speaker 3: I mean because like there are women who find it romantic.
- 28:51Speaker 2: I mean obviously, Like it's why.
- 28:55Speaker 3: I shouldn't even have to explain this, Like if she
- 28:58Speaker 3: didn't think it was attractive, wouldn't be married with a
- 29:01Speaker 3: fucking you know, like soccer team full of kids, like
- 29:06Speaker 3: they like they literally it worked out, And she's still like,
- 29:10Speaker 3: it's horrifying like men.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Essentially, what she's saying is.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Men should not take steps to approach women under any
- 29:18Speaker 3: It's like she if if she didn't want to be
- 29:21Speaker 3: with him, she would have just said no, no, and
- 29:23Speaker 3: maybe she would have called the cops if he was, like,
- 29:25Speaker 3: you know, being aggressive or whatever.
- 29:27Speaker 2: I doubt that.
- 29:28Speaker 3: He probably thought, if I have a few minutes with her,
- 29:31Speaker 3: I guess we brought her feet and apparently it worked out.
- 29:34Speaker 3: So you're now trying to post hawk problematize this thing
- 29:39Speaker 3: that worked out, and you're gonna use like this this
- 29:43Speaker 3: weird president of Hey, if you don't find this horrifying,
- 29:47Speaker 3: then some other man and might do this to some
- 29:50Speaker 3: other woman in some other scenario that's completely hypothetical, and
- 29:54Speaker 3: it could turn out to be really awful because that
- 29:56Speaker 3: other man could turn out to actually be a really
- 29:59Speaker 3: dangerous stalker, slash, you know, grapist or whatever. So she's
- 30:04Speaker 3: she only calls it horrifying because she has a problem
- 30:08Speaker 3: with men. That's the only reason. And no one else
- 30:12Speaker 3: has this same feeling except for her, and like Rachel Ziegler,
- 30:16Speaker 3: that those are the only people. Rachel was the actress
- 30:20Speaker 3: that's playing snow White in the remake that thinks it's
- 30:22Speaker 3: weird that Prince Charming, you know, stalked her, which he didn't.
- 30:26Speaker 2: He was trying to save her because she disappeared in
- 30:28Speaker 2: the woods. But whatever.
- 30:31Speaker 1: You know, what does dodge his advances mean? Does that
- 30:35Speaker 1: mean he was unable to like get a moment with her?
- 30:38Speaker 2: We don't know.
- 30:39Speaker 3: I think that's it from an article where they're telling
- 30:42Speaker 3: their story right of how they met and how they
- 30:45Speaker 3: like came to come together. Everybody likes a nice romantic
- 30:49Speaker 3: story of people meeting, especially if their marriage becomes successful,
- 30:53Speaker 3: and it was it's fruitful in that you know, they
- 30:57Speaker 3: have all these children, they're all really happy and they're
- 30:59Speaker 3: healthy and everything is great.
- 31:01Speaker 2: But this is the problem because we can't.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Have happy stories of men and women coming together and
- 31:07Speaker 3: falling in love and having kids.
- 31:09Speaker 2: That's that is not feminist. Guys like I don't think
- 31:13Speaker 2: like sorry but funny because.
- 31:15Speaker 1: They want to make a situation where if a woman
- 31:18Speaker 1: consents to something in the moment and then withdraws her consent,
- 31:23Speaker 1: it is the post hot like, the post event feeling
- 31:29Speaker 1: that matters. Right, So if it's negative, it's the post
- 31:33Speaker 1: event feeling that matters. But if it's positive, really allow
- 31:40Speaker 1: for the attitudes or the experience of women who support
- 31:46Speaker 1: their particular viewpoint, and everything else else is verbotum. So
- 31:50Speaker 1: if she said, if she had consented to all this
- 31:53Speaker 1: prior and then he did it, and then she said,
- 31:56Speaker 1: I didn't I know that I consented in the moment,
- 31:59Speaker 1: but now I feel about it for whatever reason. I'm
- 32:01Speaker 1: sure this woman would support her getting some kind of
- 32:05Speaker 1: redress for that, right, sure, heart bomb, breach of promise, whatever,
- 32:10Speaker 1: date rape whatever so or date grape. So I mean,
- 32:15Speaker 1: so you see how that the woman's experience after it
- 32:19Speaker 1: happens only matters when it's in line with her ideological perception.
- 32:25Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. It isn't, then it's just disregarded.
- 32:29Speaker 1: In this case, her experience after was positive. She married him,
- 32:33Speaker 1: she had kids with him, They seemed very happy, you know,
- 32:37Speaker 1: And obviously he listens to her because he got her
- 32:41Speaker 1: instead of something to impress all his buds in the
- 32:43Speaker 1: online commentariat, he got her something that she actually asked
- 32:47Speaker 1: for or dropped hints. There's no way that that's not
- 32:50Speaker 1: the case. When she said, oh, you got my ap
- 32:53Speaker 1: my apron, my possessive, not a apron or the apron
- 32:59Speaker 1: or my apron as in I was asking after this,
- 33:03Speaker 1: I was laying down hints. I was showing you models
- 33:07Speaker 1: on the freaking catwalk modeling this apron whatever. You know,
- 33:10Speaker 1: what I mean, she wouldn't have referred to it in
- 33:12Speaker 1: the possessive if that wasn't what she wanted. So he
- 33:16Speaker 1: actually listens to what she wants. And again, instead of
- 33:21Speaker 1: getting her something that all of these other women or
- 33:24Speaker 1: her his buddies and I don't know wall Street would
- 33:27Speaker 1: be like, oh wow, that's quite the rock, when that's
- 33:30Speaker 1: quite the vacation, that's so impressive. Instead of doing that,
- 33:34Speaker 1: he actually listened and knew what his wife actually wanted.
- 33:38Speaker 1: And she's problematizing that because it's not ideologically convenient and
- 33:43Speaker 1: it's not ideologically convenient because she gets her bag in
- 33:47Speaker 1: this way, which is she thinks incompatible with the way
- 33:51Speaker 1: that this woman gets her bag. You see what I'm saying.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Yeah, they both.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Want they both think they're after the same banana tree,
- 33:59Speaker 1: or she thinks she's after the same banana tree as
- 34:02Speaker 1: this other woman, so they have to fight over it.
- 34:06Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm what I'm saying is
- 34:08Speaker 1: a bit confusing, or you're focused on something else.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm managing the chat in the video. I'm
- 34:13Speaker 3: like looking at the time codes and I'm listening, but
- 34:17Speaker 3: I am a little divided Okay, well ask the.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Chat chat did do you understand what I'm saying? This
- 34:21Speaker 1: all comes down to two female chimps fighting over a
- 34:25Speaker 1: banana tree. Well, actually just one female trimp who thinks
- 34:29Speaker 1: this other female female chimp in her eyes, is after
- 34:33Speaker 1: her bananas.
- 34:36Speaker 3: All right, I'll let them, Yeah, they'll they'll probably comment
- 34:39Speaker 3: once it put out.
- 34:41Speaker 2: I'm gonna play some more. This is the next clip.
- 34:43Speaker 3: This one goes a little bit long, so we'll make
- 34:45Speaker 3: a few pauses, and you know, because I want to.
- 34:48Speaker 3: I want you guys to hear what she says. And
- 34:50Speaker 3: she Remember, she's not just she's not just making a point.
- 34:54Speaker 3: She's doing a bit.
- 34:55Speaker 5: So it's the influence of religion. Okay, cool, you cannot
- 35:09Speaker 5: analyze the Okay, Okay, I'm coming, I'm coming.
- 35:15Speaker 2: Oh, I gotta skip ahead.
- 35:17Speaker 3: They do the whole like prayer thing, and then she
- 35:21Speaker 3: she's obviously using this to crap on religion because she
- 35:24Speaker 3: was raised in a Mormon household, and I guess that's
- 35:26Speaker 3: like demonic to her.
- 35:28Speaker 5: But I did devote almost two decades of my life
- 35:31Speaker 5: to it. Well, I wasn't raised Mormon. I was taught
- 35:33Speaker 5: many of the same values that Hannah was and like
- 35:36Speaker 5: Hannah was on the receiving end of some very intense
- 35:38Speaker 5: messaging quite literally since birth.
- 35:41Speaker 6: So I'm a former Mormon tradwife, I have six kids.
- 35:45Speaker 2: So okay, I'm gonna jump ahead.
- 35:46Speaker 3: So what she does here to sum up is I
- 35:49Speaker 3: grab this bit because I wanted to point out what
- 35:53Speaker 3: she's doing tactically speaking. So you might have an opinion
- 35:57Speaker 3: or two on Mormonism.
- 35:59Speaker 2: I don't care about that. That's not important. What she's
- 36:02Speaker 2: doing is she's yeah, go ahead.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Gon to make a prediction. She isn't getting the resources
- 36:09Speaker 1: that she thought she would. And I don't just mean material,
- 36:14Speaker 1: I just mean a psychological or emotional and therefore this philosophy.
- 36:20Speaker 1: Now I don't necessarily agree with Mormonism, but I'm pretty sure,
- 36:23Speaker 1: like most religions, it's an ethical philosophical construct, which is
- 36:27Speaker 1: about how to live your life in a good way,
- 36:31Speaker 1: not how to get resources. And I'm guessing that I'm
- 36:35Speaker 1: completely wrong. I haven't seen this before. I'm guessing that
- 36:38Speaker 1: this is going to be how this lifestyle didn't serve her.
- 36:43Speaker 3: Yeah, ultimately, I mean, but the thing is that the
- 36:47Speaker 3: reason why I say, well, it goes on because she
- 36:50Speaker 3: plays testimonial TikTok videos from women claiming to be former
- 36:54Speaker 3: Mormon trad wives, of which we cannot confirm or deny.
- 36:58Speaker 2: We have to take their word for it. But she's not. Okay,
- 37:02Speaker 2: this is what's happening.
- 37:04Speaker 3: If you want to criticize something and you want to
- 37:08Speaker 3: like discredit it, okay, one thing you can do is
- 37:12Speaker 3: you could look at all of the things that you
- 37:16Speaker 3: take issue with that are bog standard for the thing
- 37:19Speaker 3: that you're criticizing and say, this is why I'm not
- 37:22Speaker 3: a fan. Like if I say I don't like the
- 37:24Speaker 3: body positive movement, and the reason is because you know
- 37:27Speaker 3: it's killing people. It's not healthy, and pretending like it
- 37:31Speaker 3: is or making everybody else conform and like agree that
- 37:34Speaker 3: you're actually healthy when you're not is not helpful.
- 37:37Speaker 2: And this is just that's all it is. I'm not
- 37:40Speaker 2: But when I do that, I'm not.
- 37:42Speaker 3: Criticizing like fat people in general, because I know that
- 37:45Speaker 3: there are fat people. I am one of them that
- 37:48Speaker 3: you know are trying to like do better, right, So
- 37:50Speaker 3: I'm only talking about something that is specific and I'm
- 37:53Speaker 3: keeping it to that. So what this woman wants to
- 37:57Speaker 3: do is she wants to criticize all of Christianity like
- 38:03Speaker 3: all of it, like whether you're Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Baptist, Methodist,
- 38:08Speaker 3: Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, whatever.
- 38:11Speaker 2: But she can't do that, so instead she goes.
- 38:15Speaker 3: After Mormonism and then says this actually also applies. It's
- 38:19Speaker 3: like this equivocation, this also could apply to this other
- 38:23Speaker 3: broader group. And the thing is, I don't even know
- 38:25Speaker 3: that that's true about what they say about Mormonism, at
- 38:28Speaker 3: least in terms of the way he's fraying, because I've
- 38:31Speaker 3: met Mormons that live in my neighborhood, you know, Shad Diversity,
- 38:36Speaker 3: the guy he's you know, what is it the Church
- 38:41Speaker 3: of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
- 38:42Speaker 2: I think that's Mormons, right or is that Cepara. I
- 38:45Speaker 2: don't know.
- 38:45Speaker 3: But he's a good guy, lots of kids, right. So,
- 38:49Speaker 3: But the thing is, because feminism is inherently anti Christian,
- 38:54Speaker 3: because it is it was made that way by a cult,
- 38:57Speaker 3: you know, by a cult thinking people, and they knew
- 39:01Speaker 3: that using women.
- 39:02Speaker 2: Was super effective.
- 39:04Speaker 3: And there's plenty of data and writings on this stuff.
- 39:07Speaker 3: Even Bram Stoker, by the way, you know, was kind
- 39:11Speaker 3: of a part of it, which is interesting that you
- 39:13Speaker 3: read his book, because Dracula is about like STDs or something.
- 39:18Speaker 3: But anyway, so what this is really is a way,
- 39:24Speaker 3: it's a tactic.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Okay.
- 39:26Speaker 3: So some of you guys might say that you're not
- 39:29Speaker 3: religious or whatever, but it doesn't matter, because what she's
- 39:31Speaker 3: doing is she's using a small like subset or a
- 39:35Speaker 3: personal experience to make a broad statement about anyone in
- 39:40Speaker 3: the first world. Because even if you aren't Christian to her,
- 39:43Speaker 3: you live in a Christian country, so you are just
- 39:46Speaker 3: as culpable for her dissatisfaction with her life as someone
- 39:52Speaker 3: who is a devout, you know, like fundamentalist.
- 39:55Speaker 2: So that and it's only.
- 39:57Speaker 3: Christianity, by the way, because you know, she would dare
- 39:59Speaker 3: not criticize Islam, not just because she's afraid of the consequences,
- 40:02Speaker 3: but because defending of religion like Islam or Judaism that
- 40:06Speaker 3: has a specific political cachet, it gives her, it gives
- 40:11Speaker 3: her political advantage in her criticism. So she doesn't do it.
- 40:16Speaker 3: But Christianity, it's like, you know, it's it's an open season.
- 40:20Speaker 2: So that's it. I just made my I just made
- 40:24Speaker 2: my case.
- 40:24Speaker 3: So anyway, but I want to get to so she
- 40:27Speaker 3: got to a lease testimonies.
- 40:28Speaker 2: I think the next thing is like fourteen. That's in
- 40:32Speaker 2: almost fifteen, so we're not listening to the testimonies. Do
- 40:34Speaker 2: you want me to go back to that? Yeah, we
- 40:37Speaker 2: can go back to that, at.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Least the one I want to see if I'm right,
- 40:40Speaker 1: all right, if it's all about how the lifestyle did
- 40:43Speaker 1: not serve them and so there's no sense of service
- 40:46Speaker 1: to others at all.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, right.
- 40:51Speaker 1: That's also interesting that it's a woman that sort of
- 40:53Speaker 1: forced her into sitting down for supper.
- 40:57Speaker 3: Oh, she's playing the back character. So the trad wife
- 41:02Speaker 3: is a character she's playing.
- 41:04Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the trad wife that's forcing it on her,
- 41:06Speaker 1: is what I'm getting it.
- 41:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.
- 41:08Speaker 3: But I don't know if that's because she didn't want
- 41:10Speaker 3: to play a man or, or she's trying to frame
- 41:13Speaker 3: trad wives as kind of like this is like the
- 41:16Speaker 3: dangerous part of them.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Yeah I suppose.
- 41:18Speaker 1: So, okay, let's keep going.
- 41:20Speaker 2: All right, let's keep.
- 41:21Speaker 5: Going quite literally since birth.
- 41:23Speaker 6: So I'm a former Mormon tradwife. I have six kids,
- 41:27Speaker 6: I'm thirty eight years old. I don't have an education.
- 41:30Speaker 6: I got married young, I had kids young, and they
- 41:33Speaker 6: absolutely give up on my hopes and dreams to choose
- 41:37Speaker 6: the life that I have now now that I've been
- 41:38Speaker 6: out of the church.
- 41:39Speaker 1: But what so I didn't get the life. I didn't
- 41:47Speaker 1: get the life that I wanted. Yeah, it's about selfishness.
- 41:56Speaker 1: And it's like, yes, you have embarked on a philosophy
- 42:01Speaker 1: of life. It's not about how you get a good life.
- 42:04Speaker 1: It's how you are good in your life, Like, that's
- 42:09Speaker 1: how you live up to a standard of behavior. You know.
- 42:12Speaker 1: This is this is what I've noticed with a lot
- 42:14Speaker 1: of these women who are ex anything. It's like, oh,
- 42:17Speaker 1: I I did this thing and I was expecting a
- 42:19Speaker 1: bag and then I didn't get the bag, you know.
- 42:23Speaker 1: And it's like, well, that's not really what a philosophy
- 42:28Speaker 1: is about. And also do you deserve it? Like really,
- 42:31Speaker 1: if you just live your life doing what you're told,
- 42:34Speaker 1: do you really deserve a life of freedom and self actualization?
- 42:40Speaker 1: Like if you are a follower, you follow, Like you
- 42:45Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. Why does she? Why is she
- 42:47Speaker 1: owed this life? Like she's not she's not old, Like
- 42:53Speaker 1: no woman on her earth, nobody is owed a life.
- 43:00Speaker 1: You make it through your actions and honestly, what's really
- 43:04Speaker 1: baffling to me is this a complete absence of any
- 43:07Speaker 1: desire to see yourself in terms of service to others.
- 43:11Speaker 1: Like she's not talking about how the life didn't lead
- 43:15Speaker 1: her to be able to serve others in the way
- 43:17Speaker 1: that she wanted to. And yes, men like the word man.
- 43:21Speaker 1: The entire identity man is a sexual identity or a
- 43:26Speaker 1: gender identity based on the idea of serving others. You
- 43:30Speaker 1: are a man because you protect and provide for others.
- 43:33Speaker 1: And here she is saying, while my life didn't give
- 43:37Speaker 1: me what I wanted, she has no concept of the
- 43:42Speaker 1: idea that maybe your life should be about service, which
- 43:46Speaker 1: is I guess Christian. So you see what I mean.
- 43:50Speaker 1: It's like men's very identity built into men's identity as
- 43:55Speaker 1: service to others. You're not a man unless you protect
- 43:57Speaker 1: and provide for others. You can see that. You can
- 44:00Speaker 1: see that. We even have freaking studies on it now
- 44:03Speaker 1: proving it right. But with women, everything is about their
- 44:07Speaker 1: own benefit. Even though she's a mother now, she chose
- 44:10Speaker 1: to bring in children into her life that are utterly
- 44:13Speaker 1: reliant on her, and she still doesn't see herself in
- 44:17Speaker 1: terms of service to others. That's an adult mindset, right. Okay, Now,
- 44:23Speaker 1: let's hear how her life failed her, how her choice is.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Because if she's just doing this because other people told
- 44:29Speaker 1: her to, why is she even owe a life of
- 44:32Speaker 1: freedom like she did she choose it? Did she fight
- 44:38Speaker 1: for it? Or did she just do the easy path.
- 44:44Speaker 2: Let's listen.
- 44:46Speaker 1: That I was never actually given a choice.
- 44:48Speaker 6: It's not fair to show someone ten candy bars and say, hey,
- 44:52Speaker 6: you can choose this candy bar, which is the right
- 44:54Speaker 6: candy bar that you should choose, or can chase these
- 44:58Speaker 6: nine which her poisonous and deadly and if they don't
- 45:01Speaker 6: kill you, they're going to kill all of your friends
- 45:03Speaker 6: and family members.
- 45:04Speaker 5: What would you like to choose if you haven't had
- 45:06Speaker 5: the experience of being raised in a conference independent thinkers?
- 45:09Speaker 1: Okay, Look, a life of an independent thinker isn't something
- 45:13Speaker 1: you're owed. It is something you choose by taking on
- 45:17Speaker 1: the burden of opposing people, which is a burden you
- 45:22Speaker 1: honestly think. Okay, you honestly think bucking against the trend
- 45:26Speaker 1: isn't difficult. That's why you didn't do it. That's why
- 45:28Speaker 1: you chose not to do it. Nobody owes you the
- 45:32Speaker 1: benefits of a life lived as an independent thinker. Nobody
- 45:36Speaker 1: owes it to you, and the world doesn't owe it
- 45:39Speaker 1: to you either. This is the life you chose for yourself.
- 45:43Speaker 1: And now, at thirty six, you're facing your death and
- 45:46Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, what did I really do with my life?
- 45:48Speaker 4: Well?
- 45:48Speaker 5: You had kids?
- 45:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how are they doing? Right?
- 45:54Speaker 1: Yeah? How are they doing? Oh? Good?
- 45:57Speaker 3: Lord?
- 45:57Speaker 2: Okay, all right, play some more. So what she says feminine.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like she dresses up in this suit
- 46:06Speaker 1: and she has no actual understanding of what masculinity is. Anyways.
- 46:10Speaker 2: Oh no, she's playing a queer role.
- 46:12Speaker 3: She's totally like mixing it up, even though she's still
- 46:15Speaker 3: acting like a girl. All right, let's let's go to
- 46:19Speaker 3: the source here. So now remember what I pointed out,
- 46:22Speaker 3: she starts off. We're talking about Mormons, maybe even a
- 46:25Speaker 3: specific like radical branch, and now we're just talking about
- 46:28Speaker 3: conservative Christians, conservative religions in.
- 46:31Speaker 5: General, strong emphasis on gender roles and preserving a patriarchal hierarchy.
- 46:36Speaker 5: It can be hard to understand that just how much
- 46:38Speaker 5: every single aspect of your life is influenced by the
- 46:41Speaker 5: mandates of the church.
- 46:44Speaker 1: Yeah, every single aspect of my life is influenced by
- 46:48Speaker 1: the mandates of feminism, Like everywhere I turn there's an
- 46:53Speaker 1: invitation to treat myself as a victim of shit instead
- 46:56Speaker 1: of an agent in my own life, including this video,
- 47:00Speaker 1: which is not challenging anything. Like literally, feminism's effect over
- 47:05Speaker 1: the last eighty years is to take the perception of
- 47:08Speaker 1: women's agency and cut it in half. Like people don't
- 47:13Speaker 1: see women as capable anymore because of feminism, and it's
- 47:17Speaker 1: constant drumbeat of victimhood and there is unbelievable pressure to
- 47:22Speaker 1: kowtow to it right well more than the Mormon Church.
- 47:27Speaker 1: It's freakin' everywhere, and it is also in Christian denominations,
- 47:32Speaker 1: this idea of inherent victimhood being womanhood. You try fighting that.
- 47:41Speaker 2: Feminism is a religion, m all right back to this.
- 47:46Speaker 1: It's also its own it's also its own gender roles.
- 47:49Speaker 1: Like literally, feminism has the strictest and most insanely narrow
- 47:54Speaker 1: gender roles in human history. At least, we recognized women's
- 47:58Speaker 1: agency in the past, but feism literally reduces them down
- 48:01Speaker 1: to something that's written upon while men are oppressors because
- 48:06Speaker 1: they're the ones doing the writing. No matter what, even
- 48:09Speaker 1: if it's good writing, it's still bad because men are
- 48:11Speaker 1: doing the ones the ones doing the writing. So men
- 48:14Speaker 1: are inherently to the end of time till the heat
- 48:18Speaker 1: death of the universe oppressors, and women are inherently till
- 48:21Speaker 1: the heat death of the universe. What they act on, right,
- 48:27Speaker 1: this is it's beyond a general like it's beyond wearing
- 48:32Speaker 1: a skirt or a tie. It is to the point
- 48:35Speaker 1: of like personal understanding that it's just insane and in
- 48:47Speaker 1: how to perceive yourself. And they have struck such a
- 48:51Speaker 1: strict dichotomy between men and women that they have no
- 48:56Speaker 1: position to in any way judge any other group of people.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Now when you basically a conjecture that men and women
- 49:04Speaker 1: aren't even the same type of existence, like, that's what
- 49:07Speaker 1: they do. They're like men and women, they're fundamentally not
- 49:10Speaker 1: the same type of existence. This is feminist gender roles.
- 49:13Speaker 1: And then they're like, oh, look at you, you with
- 49:14Speaker 1: your strict general bitch, please, there ain't anything stricter gender
- 49:18Speaker 1: roles and feminist gender roles. Okay, sorry, back to the video.
- 49:26Speaker 7: I think is getting lost in a lot of the
- 49:28Speaker 7: discourse around the Times article about Ballerina farm. It's been
- 49:32Speaker 7: super invalidating to see.
- 49:33Speaker 1: A lot of this this is none of your fucking business.
- 49:38Speaker 2: Isn't it.
- 49:39Speaker 3: Isn't it funny that it just became this massive thing
- 49:42Speaker 3: that I didn't know about unless until you know, you
- 49:44Speaker 3: watch like feminist and like female dating strategy content, all
- 49:49Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's like the only thing people are
- 49:51Speaker 3: talking about.
- 49:52Speaker 1: It's it's none of your fucking business. Okay, well, let
- 49:55Speaker 1: me see disempower a woman? All right, let's see.
- 49:58Speaker 2: Let's see what you all right, let me play.
- 49:59Speaker 7: The Okay, it's empower a woman by suggesting that she
- 50:03Speaker 7: cannot be happy making bread and making babies. It completely
- 50:06Speaker 7: disregards the intense every fiber of your being messaging that
- 50:11Speaker 7: Mormon women and also many other Christian women get about.
- 50:15Speaker 7: Their only value add to society is as wife is,
- 50:19Speaker 7: as mother is, as homemaker.
- 50:21Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least they add value to society. What's
- 50:24Speaker 1: the feminist messaging? If a woman adds value to society,
- 50:27Speaker 1: then she's propping up the patriarchy. Literally, if women have
- 50:32Speaker 1: any kind of standard outside of the self, they're propping
- 50:35Speaker 1: up the patriarchy. So if they if women develop any
- 50:39Speaker 1: aspect of their external sense of agency, women feminists stomp
- 50:44Speaker 1: on that with their giant boots, like and that's and
- 50:47Speaker 1: and you guys don't even acknowledge it, Like that's what
- 50:51Speaker 1: it does. When you say I am going to hold
- 50:53Speaker 1: myself to an external standard, what happens You develop your
- 50:56Speaker 1: sense of self in relation to that external standard, develop
- 51:00Speaker 1: a sense of agency over your life and the world
- 51:03Speaker 1: around you. That is, developing an essential part of your personality.
- 51:07Speaker 1: And anytime women do that, feminists stomp over and kick
- 51:11Speaker 1: their shit over.
- 51:16Speaker 3: On top of that, she seems to be claiming that religion,
- 51:21Speaker 3: and it's not only religion, but her case is that
- 51:24Speaker 3: religion gives or has expectations of women. Does it also
- 51:34Speaker 3: have expectations from men? Because I think it does. I
- 51:40Speaker 3: think that if you say, oh, a woman has to
- 51:42Speaker 3: be a mother and a wife and a homemaker or whatever,
- 51:46Speaker 3: well what does the man have to do? Because obviously
- 51:49Speaker 3: there it's like we're basically doing the same thing that
- 51:54Speaker 3: you know, when we have to like make the case
- 51:56Speaker 3: that Islam does not hate their women, it's.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Like the same thing.
- 52:00Speaker 3: It's like, oh, look at all the things that women
- 52:01Speaker 3: have to do, Yeah, but what do the men have
- 52:03Speaker 3: to do? Do you even know, like because you don't care,
- 52:07Speaker 3: because you don't see them. They're not people to you.
- 52:10Speaker 3: You think like you're sitting there in your air conditioned
- 52:14Speaker 3: of you know, home with plumbing and electricity and all this,
- 52:20Speaker 3: and you're on the internet and you're wearing clothes and
- 52:23Speaker 3: you're you know, online like you have running water, you
- 52:26Speaker 3: have plumbing, and you're like women are forced to do
- 52:28Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff and it's not even forced.
- 52:31Speaker 2: It's like they're they're married.
- 52:32Speaker 3: Therefore there's like a pressure of an invisible pressure to
- 52:38Speaker 3: to that it enthralls them to like desire to have kids.
- 52:42Speaker 3: Like it's not something biological, it's purely gender roles making
- 52:46Speaker 3: women do that have kids and want to take care
- 52:48Speaker 3: of their kids and want to take care of their men.
- 52:50Speaker 3: But there's nothing on the men at all. Like men they.
- 52:53Speaker 2: Don't have any there's no rules, there's no expectations.
- 52:57Speaker 3: I mean, you're you are living in doulululand you have
- 53:00Speaker 3: no idea what it takes to maintain this fucking civilization
- 53:05Speaker 3: that you are shitting on, like you are taking a
- 53:08Speaker 3: shit on it.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Okay, but well let's hear the rest of her.
- 53:13Speaker 1: At the same time, a woman's participation in the capitalist
- 53:17Speaker 1: healscape is mandatory, and according to feminism, yeah.
- 53:23Speaker 5: Is that are easy to shake off.
- 53:25Speaker 1: Either.
- 53:25Speaker 5: You can't just run out the doors, dye your hair green,
- 53:27Speaker 5: get an adventurous piercing that later rejected, and move on.
- 53:30Speaker 1: With your life.
- 53:31Speaker 5: Trust me, I tried that. And depending on your flavor
- 53:34Speaker 5: of religion, the consequences for leaving both in this life
- 53:38Speaker 5: and the next can be quite extreme.
- 53:40Speaker 8: I have a little bit of insight into this because I'm.
- 53:43Speaker 1: Lord like, it's just a bunch of harpies circling this
- 53:47Speaker 1: woman her living a fucking life, and it really is
- 53:51Speaker 1: like that. I think it is the whole. Oh, she
- 53:53Speaker 1: has an external standard that she lives up to. That's
- 53:56Speaker 1: really what they're what they're reacting to, is that develop
- 54:00Speaker 1: of self based on personal agency. That that's what I
- 54:04Speaker 1: think they're reacting to. She's not acting like somebody that
- 54:08Speaker 1: you shove rocks and you know, diamond rings and vacations into.
- 54:15Speaker 1: She's acting like a humble person who sees her worth
- 54:18Speaker 1: in terms of her actions. And that's really pissing them off.
- 54:24Speaker 2: They can stand it.
- 54:25Speaker 1: Because the idea that women be judged along that metric,
- 54:30Speaker 1: or that present themselves as worthwhile along that metric strikes
- 54:35Speaker 1: right to the heart of their identity as simply acted on,
- 54:41Speaker 1: Like they are victims, Like every single one of these women,
- 54:44Speaker 1: what is their primary statement in everything that they're saying? Victim, victim, victim, victim, victim.
- 54:50Speaker 1: I am solely a response to men's actions. I am
- 54:54Speaker 1: an emergent property of men's decisions. And then they have
- 54:58Speaker 1: the audacity to say that other women and are brainwashed.
- 55:02Speaker 2: All right, next clip, restless.
- 55:05Speaker 8: Mean raised Mormon. We are taught at a very very
- 55:09Speaker 8: young age what her roles.
- 55:11Speaker 9: Are and how you don't think men aren't into heaven
- 55:14Speaker 9: and as a woman, you have a uterus and you
- 55:16Speaker 9: are there to populate the earth with as many Mormons
- 55:20Speaker 9: as you can. Did you know that when a Mormon
- 55:24Speaker 9: couple is married in the church, they're bound to each other.
- 55:27Speaker 8: Okay, but they're not just bound together in life, they're
- 55:30Speaker 8: bound together in eternity. If she were to leave him,
- 55:34Speaker 8: she would still be bound to him, However she.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Would lose I don't think that's uniquely Mormon, and I
- 55:39Speaker 3: think it's really interesting that she keeps trying. It's again,
- 55:42Speaker 3: it's this thing where you're not really complaining about Mormonism.
- 55:46Speaker 3: You're complaining about marriage, you're complaining about men, you're complaining
- 55:49Speaker 3: about family, and I think you're a weirdo.
- 55:52Speaker 2: I think you're the weirdo.
- 55:54Speaker 3: Like the idea of marriage is is supposed to be
- 55:59Speaker 3: that you stay together until you die, Like that's the
- 56:02Speaker 3: purpose of it. Now, if you don't if that, if
- 56:04Speaker 3: you don't think that's for you, then that's your business.
- 56:07Speaker 3: But you're basically saying this shouldn't exist, like women should
- 56:11Speaker 3: be like me, like desire to be free.
- 56:14Speaker 8: You know, to her children in eternity, they would no
- 56:18Speaker 8: longer be hers, they are his, they belong to him.
- 56:20Speaker 8: For a devout Mormon, terrifying. It's so much deeper than
- 56:26Speaker 8: she's just promoting traditional value.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Okay, so you are God. You're saying that it's terrifying
- 56:31Speaker 1: to lose your children in the afterlife. What about in
- 56:34Speaker 1: the real life, Like, honestly, like the the the overwhelming
- 56:39Speaker 1: uh social and legal position is that men tend to
- 56:43Speaker 1: have to abide by whatever women choose for custody. So
- 56:47Speaker 1: you've just said that that's horrifying, and yet that's the
- 56:50Speaker 1: reality in the greater culture. Seems like this is just
- 56:54Speaker 1: a balance. If true, you might you might gain your
- 56:57Speaker 1: children in the real life, but lose them in eternity
- 57:00Speaker 1: by divorcing. And they don't think about that. They don't
- 57:04Speaker 1: think about the pressure that's put on men. It's just
- 57:07Speaker 1: isn't even considered. And the reason why it isn't considered
- 57:10Speaker 1: is because it encourages women to develop that aspect of themselves,
- 57:14Speaker 1: that personal agency. I mean, how do you have a
- 57:16Speaker 1: conversation about women's strengths or personal agency without a conversation
- 57:20Speaker 1: about their impact on men?
- 57:23Speaker 3: Right? Yepka, There are also gender roles imposed on men,
- 57:28Speaker 3: but most of the time men.
- 57:30Speaker 2: Just kind of.
- 57:32Speaker 1: Roles are pretty awful absolute like especially on men. I
- 57:36Speaker 1: mean I've talked about it, like they will throw out
- 57:39Speaker 1: unwanted boys. Those boys end up on the streets, probably
- 57:43Speaker 1: turning tricks or doing or you know, selling drugs Like woof,
- 57:47Speaker 1: that's great for the boys. Huh.
- 57:50Speaker 2: Well, let's keep going.
- 57:52Speaker 8: Been told to her her whole life.
- 57:55Speaker 5: So are you really making a fair choice if you
- 57:58Speaker 5: believe one option will lead to you losing everything you
- 58:01Speaker 5: love and damning your immortal soul?
- 58:04Speaker 1: Yes, man, Yes, you are still making a choice unless
- 58:10Speaker 1: you believe like you can stop believing that.
- 58:14Speaker 3: Well, that's another thing too, Alison. This woman is making
- 58:17Speaker 3: an argument as an outsider. Do you really think she's
- 58:21Speaker 3: still a Mormon or Christian?
- 58:23Speaker 2: I think she's. No.
- 58:24Speaker 3: She's obviously an atheist that hates religion. She's an anti
- 58:27Speaker 3: theist in fact, and she's also using religion to make
- 58:32Speaker 3: an argument. So you can't do that, like, you can't
- 58:35Speaker 3: hold me to standards that you yourself don't hold yourself too.
- 58:39Speaker 3: So you can't be like, oh my god, ladies, you're
- 58:41Speaker 3: gonna lose your immortal soul. Oh by the way, I
- 58:43Speaker 3: don't believe in any of that hokum, but you do,
- 58:46Speaker 3: so I'm going to use this on you. So it's
- 58:48Speaker 3: like she's abusing her audience by using arguments that she
- 58:54Speaker 3: in ideas that she doesn't actually hold.
- 58:57Speaker 2: So that you know, it's this.
- 59:01Speaker 1: The end result is women victim. That's it.
- 59:04Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's the only that's the religion, right, that's
- 59:08Speaker 3: the that's the yeah, that's the mantra, that's the uh,
- 59:12Speaker 3: you know, the replacement for.
- 59:15Speaker 1: You can even have a criticism of Mormonism that included
- 59:18Speaker 1: the criticism of how they treatment, but they don't.
- 59:21Speaker 3: Well that would that's not useful because Ultimately, it's not
- 59:24Speaker 3: the thing is not about the thing.
- 59:26Speaker 2: The thing is always about the revolution.
- 59:28Speaker 3: So any vehicle they can use to attack the world,
- 59:32Speaker 3: the patriarchy, men, society, whatever, that leads to the burning
- 59:37Speaker 3: of it all down so that the phoenix can rise
- 59:39Speaker 3: up from the ashes and rebuild a new history when
- 59:42Speaker 3: they get to the end of it.
- 59:44Speaker 2: That is all. It's all useful.
- 59:46Speaker 3: It's it has nothing to do with rationality, has nothing
- 59:49Speaker 3: to do with I mean, they believe it, you know,
- 59:51Speaker 3: they know that they're doing they're they're they believe in it.
- 59:54Speaker 3: But like our rational brains, nothing that we can say
- 59:59Speaker 3: is gonna make them change. Like, they don't care what
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: we think. They know what they're doing though.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: So anyway, okay, well when I point something out, and
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: they're not going to get very far if they can't
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: figure out how to harness the thing that creates societies
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: and makes them productive, which is the relationship between men
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: and women.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: Yep, this is not about.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: This feminist construction of the relationship between men and women
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: does not conducive to a cooperative relationship that produces the
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: civilization and a productive civilization. It's not conducive. It's only
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: conducive to smashing one.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: Okay, so what's the next one.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: Let's go there's a little bit left in this one.
- 1:00:40Speaker 5: Is it okay to feel bad for rich, white siss, straight,
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: able bodied women. That's like a you don't question.
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: Yeah, well she's still intersectional, so we gotta like and
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: obviously she doesn't care, right, This is why these are
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: useful people to attack, because she doesn't actually care about them.
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: All right, let's go to I think it's here where
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: she talks about this woman who makes everything from scratch
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: and puts it on TikTok. Now, I'm just gonna say
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: for the record, I think that women, whether they say
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: that they're trad or whatever, if they're making lots of
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: videos supposed on social media, most likely they're doing it
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: for social media at least in part. They may actually
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: be cooking meals for their family, but they are also
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: trying to get attention and build a brand of their own.
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna pretend like this is totally innocent.
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: And a woman was just slaving away in her kitchen
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: and somebody with a phone just walked in on them
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: and started taping them, Like obviously they planned it all
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: out and they edit it and everything, but that's their business.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, Hayden, that's their business.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: How is this different than a guy showing his carpentry work.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: Yeah, or or you know, there's like a there's like
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: a video of there's a channel where these guys they're
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: called the Butcher Brothers, and all they do is they
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: show you how to cut. They're like, you know, these
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: two big bearded bearded butchers is actually called bearded butchers,
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: these two bearded dudes, and they're just cutting up, you know,
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: like beef and steaks.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: And they're showing you what they are and how they're
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: cutting it, and then their videos go super viral.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: It's just like a couple of guys cutting meat, or
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: or guys who are like cutting things with katanas.
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: It's the same thing, you know.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just girl stuff.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Yeah, these are just girly things, productive feminist.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Saying their actions to create something delicious.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's listen to this bit.
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: I'm When I ask my toddlers what they wanted for lunch,
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: they both wanted to grow cheese. So that's exactly what
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: I got started on. And the kids absolutely devoured this.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: I bet they did.
- 1:02:43Speaker 5: They had to wait two business days for lunch. The
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: camera is not a passive observer, it's an active participants.
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: Couldn't Yeah, I know.
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: She she hates that her that this woman. Let's assume
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: it's true. Hey, she hates that this woman took the
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: time to actually make her kids a grilled cheese sandwiches
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: from scratch, but also.
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: Is implying that she's neglectful by saying they had to
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: wait for so long to eat.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, of course it's super.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Pan and the camera is not a passive observer. Okay,
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: let us enter the world of the courtship between women
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: in the camera. Let's see what she has to say.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: Because I mentioned this, like I'm I'm I'm telling you guys,
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: these are pearls like this is this is what's actually
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: going on in these women's heads. Lots of conflict with
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: each other over because they're they there's just one banana tree.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: And that's the thing about feminism, you know what, you.
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: Know what she's you know what she's really mad about.
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: That woman made a sandwich.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one. There's one banana tree in feminism, right,
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: There's just one, and only feminist women are allowed to
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: have it. They know, no other women are allowed to
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: have it. Okay, there can't be multiple banana trees. There
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: can't be a banana tree in an apple tree or
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: a paratree. No, there's only the banana tree, and you're
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: only allowed to be a feminist to have it. That's
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: what this is all comes down to. They want particular resources.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: I mean, this is more when you talk when you
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: explain this for men and you say, well, no, feminists,
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: you know what they're after, right, Okay, they're after reproductive opportunities.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: These women are after resource opportunities and preventing other women
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: from exploiting their resources or controlling the distribution of resources
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: and being the ones who do so that it's all
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: about resources. But let's let's hear what she has to say.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go back to the video here.
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: If less of a that their mom made the bread
- 1:04:52Speaker 5: and cheese for their sandwiches, it's.
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: All for you, the viewer.
- 1:04:56Speaker 5: There's a reason you don't see trad wife influencers cleaning
- 1:05:00Speaker 5: stains out of shirts, scrubbing toilet squirrel Nancy.
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: Nancy, Yeah, that was a bit.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: I'm gonna jump ahead to the next funny.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: But yeah, that's interesting because she's acknowledging that it's for
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: the camera. Yes, so what it's for the camera. So
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: those yours you are doing something for the camera. You
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: are abdicating your agency as a woman and accentuating your
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: broken feet in order to say I can't walk. That's
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: what this entire thing is about, is an affectation of
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: victimhood and an affectation of victimhood on behalf of women
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: who are not even you. You know that. Okay, yeah,
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: maybe I'm being too rarefied today.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the next clip.
- 1:05:55Speaker 5: Not all trad wife influencers are created equal. Some like
- 1:06:00Speaker 5: and Nara simply film a curated view of the gender
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: roles their faith dictates. Others use their platforms to directly
- 1:06:07Speaker 5: promote marital submission as prescribed in religious texts like the Bible.
- 1:06:12Speaker 5: And then there are those that simply throw on an
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: apron for a few minutes to farm engagement. But all
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: of these women contribute to a growing body of content
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: that either implicitly or explicitly promotes the idea that a
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: woman's place is in the home, that her delicate femininity
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: can only survive within its walls. The traad wine you live.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: In a home and you exist within the same home
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: as the Jadwise.
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: Do you also clean your home? Do you also do
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: your laundry?
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Well? But do you do your roofing? Do you fix
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: your sewers? Are you up on a freaking pole fixing
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: the lines? No, you exist within the same home that
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: they do. You have this like this is the thing,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: Like she is in the same nest as a homemaker.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: She only goes to work because work now for a
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: great many of people, is not incredibly physical like it
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: was for most of human history, or involved incredible danger
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: like it did for most of human history. Like she's
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: it's it's not that you left the home, it's that
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: the home expanded and you're still in it. Like just
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: would she want to go do when the majority of
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: jobs where labor out in the hot sun with no
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: mosquito repellent, Like she wouldn't be doing those. She would
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: be at home because that's where it's comfortable. Now that
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: work is comfortable, there are more women in it because
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: it's and it's not because they've come to work, it's
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: because they've brought home to work, to these other spaces
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: where it didn't used to exist. Like what I'm trying
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: to get at is she is not like, nothing about
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: her indicates that she is anything but delicate herself, anything
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: but required she she's just.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: Not wearing the skin of.
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: That even that she's wearing indicates delicacy. Do you think
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: people wear suits when they dig ditches?
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: No? But I mean I think that she thinks that.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: Guy thinks it's the performance. She thinks that she's looking tough.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: Kids.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: She is living in exactly the same climate controlled delicate
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: nest as a homemaker, and she's saying, oh, well look
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: at her. They're they're so yeah, so are you? You
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: are very delicate. You are playing a particular role, which
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: is woman as victim of the system, delicate, fragile, possibly
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: going to work and being victimized by the temperature of
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: the air condition like this. This is don't give me
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: this shit. You are no different except they are at
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: least providing something to their families. You live in the
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: same harem, lady, You live in the same harem.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I got a super child.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: Really confusing today.
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: No, you're not only confusing, but you're strangely hostile, not
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: to me, but to like the video Richard Pierre gives
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: us five bucks and says, well, the men crafting videos
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: don't have the men doing the work informal evening, where though,
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: all right, thank you for that five dollars, Richard, let's
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: get back to the video.
- 1:09:40Speaker 5: Strangely hostile, yeah, sir, is a paradox promoting a simple
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: domestic life while she herself enjoys the freedom of expression
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: and financial independence that women were denied for centuries.
- 1:09:56Speaker 6: You were not.
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: Women have?
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: She said they were for centuries als And she said,
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: so it must be true.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: It's okay, just repeat the lie.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: Until it becomes the truth.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: Decade in which men could afford to let their wives
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: live at home and pursue whateversoph philosophical, or craft or
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: artistic endeavors they want. And women will never forgive men
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: for that one decade where men women didn't actually have
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: to do work. One decade, and nobody is ever gonna
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: forgive men for it. Ever, this is bullshit. Women have
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: worked throughout all of human history, and believe me, on
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: the homesteatters and maybe not a homemaker, but a homesteader's
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: work is just well no, actually, one of my sayings,
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: she's an off piece for the necessary guilt that keeps
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: the system running because it is, in the end of
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: the day, about guilty men in order for them to
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: continue to invest in making the system run. Like this
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: is all she is. She's the whip in a slave
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: owner's or a slave master's hand, get working, feel the guilt,
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: feel the lash, and that's it. That's all she is.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: She doesn't she this is what's okay. But why I'm
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: so strangely hostile to this is this is a person
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: LARPing as what I am harping as me. She hasn't
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: done the work to really understand the truth about gender
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: roles and what is really happening. Either she doesn't have
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: the intelligence or she just doesn't have the will turned
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: what I am into a performance. So I'm basically watching
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: like a fucking Sambo version of the Show of Myself.
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: And yes, I am strangely hostile towards that, Like she
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: doesn't even any of the deeper qualities, like the deeper
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: questions like what is this, what is really happening here?
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: What are the real true gender roles? And I can
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: tell you that the true gender roles in our society,
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: the overwhelming ones, are that women flatten themselves into a
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: single solitary dimension to be written on, and then as
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: the process of doing so, of affecting, this victimhood is
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: used to drive guilt for men and actually shame at
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: this point, so that men continue to feel like they
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: have to earn an identity through action in the system,
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: through contributing to the system. That's it, And all she
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: is is a point of guilt. That's it. She's just
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: a dispensary for a single emotion, which again, it's no
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: longer guilt, it's now shame because we no longer allow
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: for a unique identity that men can earn through their
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: actions in the greater society. That's not We don't do
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: that anymore. So she's got no other purpose, no other
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: real like, there's there's no there there, you know what
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: I'm saying everything, Yeah, turning women into victims in order
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: to guilt men into into they're investing in the system.
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: And never they never question that, They never see it
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: because they aren't really they aren't really gender queer, they
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: aren't really gender fluid. They're just actors, theater kids.
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: Yeahs, all right, So I got a super chat from
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: Albertnita Retro for two dollars he says hello, and then
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: he gave another one for two dollars Canadian and says
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: a hostile badger, no way. And then I got a
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: super chow from anonymous and he says for five bucks.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: I fapp to Harem's all right, thank you for that.
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: Good to know.
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: Okay, this is why I say it's theater kids against artists.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: You know, these are the things that go through my
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: fucking mind when I'm sitting over and slaving over a
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: painting or trying to get writing to work. This is
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: the shit. You know, you're right in the for your
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: fucking subconscious thinking about these things, and this is what
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: bubbles out. And theater kids are just like, eh, what
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: can I perform today? Oh I'm gonna get an audience.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: I'm gonna get an applause.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: Okay, I'm playing. There's only forty seconds left this clip.
- 1:14:27Speaker 5: So they're business owners LARPing the nineteen fifties. Just like
- 1:14:31Speaker 5: your average NERD wants to get hammered and run around
- 1:14:33Speaker 5: renfare and chainmail without contracting the bubonic plague, these women
- 1:14:37Speaker 5: want to wear vintage clothing and promote vintage ideals without
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: acknowledging the troubling history behind the esthetic. Because as much
- 1:14:46Speaker 5: as conservatives bemoan the loss of high value women, posting
- 1:14:50Speaker 5: montages of the good old days with vaguely racist undertones,
- 1:14:55Speaker 5: the perfect Housewife's there?
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: What a bullshit like to throw that in there? Really
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: upsets to vaguely racist undertones. Oh my god, these people
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: are insufferable. Okay, anyway, let me finish this past.
- 1:15:09Speaker 5: Yes, we're preach about your relation to lobotomies or how
- 1:15:12Speaker 5: to sedate themselves with barbituates just to tolerate their lives.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: What are you fucking talking about.
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to lobottomize women all the time, and
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: then we used to put them on pills and medication
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: to keep them sane.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: Good thing. We don't do that anymore.
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: God damn, it's not.
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: I mean, like, women aren't on pills these days, right,
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: and they're doing their own volition.
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: Okay, So they get meditate medicated for anxiety disorders. Oh
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: my god, that's that's uh that that's definitely a condemnation.
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: It's oppression. Suppression. Women shouldn't feel anxiety. Men do that
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: to them. Therefore, they need to be medicated, and men
- 1:15:59Speaker 3: also benefit because men are also big pharma or something.
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: But like, how many women are on SSRIs right now? Like,
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it.
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: Just how many women insisted that certain people have to
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: go through medical procedures against their will?
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: Yeah? How many women?
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: Grandma?
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: Yeah, the same grandma. All right, let's get back to
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: the video.
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: I have the next the next uh yeah, the next
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: time code here, So we're getting through them pretty quick.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: Eighteen thirty one.
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: That's a surprise, despite my hostility. But I think I
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: put my finger on it. It's like a minstrel show.
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: Yeah all right, oh.
- 1:16:39Speaker 10: You said that.
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: Well, I mean I knew what you were getting at.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: You said sambo, I think, but you understand my language now,
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: I do, I do.
- 1:16:47Speaker 5: Please. It's just when I see the commentary surrounding these
- 1:16:52Speaker 5: tradwife accounts.
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: You're so jealous. Help, but she's after your banana.
- 1:16:57Speaker 5: This content is popularized, the more efforts for women's equality
- 1:17:01Speaker 5: will begin to erode, because you see what I.
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: Say, Yeah, no, no, I know she doesn't see. Feminists
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: want women to be free to choose their life style
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: until they.
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: Actually choose their lifestyle.
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: And then it's like you can't not like that, Like
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: these women are saying, you are amazingly inspiring about the
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: trad wife videos, not enough of them about now. I
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: don't know what that means. I guess not enough for tradwives.
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: I want to be a housewife in the fifties so bad. Again,
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: that just sounds like I like that aesthetic. It doesn't
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: mean I have read the history and want to live
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: in a time before all.
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: The modern conveniences.
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: Yeah, but she might be, but like what even Like,
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: are you serious you want to give up your phone?
- 1:17:51Speaker 5: No?
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: You just want the aesthetic. You want, the clothes, you want,
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: the hair you want.
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: Because like there was like a you know, I don't
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: I would say a sugarcoated version, because I don't think
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: the fifties.
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: Were that great.
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: But there's a lot of other reasons. I had nothing
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: to do with fucking women and women's rights. I hate working, Uh,
- 1:18:10Speaker 3: for real, I just want to be a housewife. I'm
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: fourteen and I want to be a housewife. Oh that
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: last one, that's really that really bothers her? Right, Oh
- 1:18:18Speaker 3: my god. I was hoping I would groom you to
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: being a feminist, and now I can't.
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:18:24Speaker 5: The rest of this four, writer and activist Betty for
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: Dan noticed a bizarre phenomenon that swept the United States
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: during the fifties and sixties.
- 1:18:35Speaker 3: So she says, I just want to make sure because
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: I you know, the pause, she said that she's afraid
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: of the influence that this trad wife thing is having
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: on women, because she's going to bring up this historical.
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: Parallel.
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: I guess that has something to do with Betty Betty
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: free Dan. So do you know you know Betty free Dan? Right,
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: we all know, you guys know Betty Free Dank. So
- 1:19:00Speaker 3: I'm going to play some of this. She's just like
- 1:19:02Speaker 3: leading into the Betty Friedan things. Let's let's hear it out.
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: Despite the leaps in progress made for women's rights in
- 1:19:08Speaker 5: the preceding decades, young girls were suddenly retreating back into
- 1:19:13Speaker 5: the home, getting married younger than ever, having more children
- 1:19:16Speaker 5: than ever, with no other aspiration outside the role of housewife.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: So do you know when she says having more children
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: than ever? Like, what are you comparing that to.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: The past? And honestly, this is a very interesting framing.
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: So women had the opportunity for liberation and then chose
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: the home, which is entirely consistent with the UH gender
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: equality paradox. Where you give women the choice and they
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: actually prefer their gender role and to stay home. That
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: doesn't mean that there's necessarily a quality. But if you
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: give women the choice, that's what they choose, right, And
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: this is what they she's demonstrated. They got the choice
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: and that's what they chose.
- 1:20:04Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: But somehow despite the fact that when you give women
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: the choice and they choose that because literally that is
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: what she's saying, she's saying that there was liberation in
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: the decades prior to the fifties and sixties, and a
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: whole wave of women chose to go back home. Right,
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: when you give women the choice, that proves that what
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: preceded it was unlikely to be oppression. Slaves don't usually
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: have a choice, and when they do, they usually choose
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: not slavery. Okay, So the preal problem here is that
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: all of this undermines the feminist ideological explanation for reality. Yep,
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: it's against her religion, it's against her strict gender roles,
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: and it's against her framing of history and the past,
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: which you know for a living. Yeah, and if you
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: think about it, when you see that she's paid to
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: do it, it's it's possible that that's the case, because
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: you need a lot of women buying into this in
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: order to generate the guilt and shame necessary to keep
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: men buying into the society. Like to keep saying, Okay,
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: so what happens is you shame men out of an identity,
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: then they seek one, and they seek one through the
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: process of investing in our society basically, like they're trying
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: to develop a sense of self through earning money, through
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: getting a job, all of that kind of stuff. But
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: you need these women shaming men, guilting men, stripping men
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: of a natural identity in order to hasten this process along, which, incidentally,
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: I mean, I think that even if you didn't do this,
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: what you'd end up with is men who do actually
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: want to provide and protect, but are more autonomous about it,
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: if that makes sense. They're more about deciding who they're
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: going to provide and protect for what they're going to
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: invest in that kind of stuff. And then okay, but anyway,
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: that's that's that's an along aside. It's basically it comes
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: down to she thinks somebody's after her banana tree.
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: Yeah, just like before. Okay, so I got a couple
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: of super chats.
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: Albert Nata retro gave us a super chat for two
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: dollars Canadian and says Brian language SoundBite language, and then
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: he gives us five dollars Canadian and says, I can't
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: believe poor Jack drowned for this, and my heart will
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: go on and on. Put your finger on it after
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: the stream, Allison, this is a family show.
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but okay.
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: And then five dollars Canadian again from Albert data retro
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: and he says fourteen groom feminist? What is the vagina monologues? Alex,
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: all right, thank you for that, and let's watch some
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: more of this.
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: This a little bit Betty friedan clip.
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: There's just a few more seconds or ten seconds or so,
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: so trying.
- 1:23:07Speaker 5: What Mary Poppins might imply. The protests for.
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: Women's suffrage, Oh yeah, this is great.
- 1:23:12Speaker 5: Choreography, and themselves were imprisoned and even killed fighting for
- 1:23:18Speaker 5: their rights to vote, to work, and to be educated.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: No, they weren't.
- 1:23:25Speaker 3: Pretty sure. That woman just fucked up and died. I
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: don't think yeah, and nobody tried to kill her. No,
- 1:23:32Speaker 3: she did something stupid and died.
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: But in fact, what people.
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: The people who died in that whole thing were people
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: who the suffragettes targeted for violence like uh and then
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: the accidental death being trampled. And also so women died
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: for no, they didn't. They didn't. Men died for the vote.
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: And in fact, men had to die before they were
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: even considered for the vote. They had to actually show
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: that they were invested in the culture that they were
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: part of, up to sacrificing their lives to protect protect
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: it before they were even considered for the vote. Not
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: so for women. So even though feminine or suffragettes, they
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: didn't die for the vote. They well, first of all,
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: they didn't die period. But second of all, they died
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: protesting and engaging in treason against the society terrorism society
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: they wanted to have a say in. There's a big difference.
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: Men had to die in service protecting the society, they
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: wanted to have a say in. Suffragettes killed other people
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: in terrorist acts against the society. They wanted to have
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: a say in. Yeah, these these are not admirable people
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. And what they were
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: asking for are demanding, actually, and when you're a terrorist,
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: demands what they were demanding was a deal that men
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: never got, and they got it, yep, and they'll never
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: forgive men for it.
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: Yep. Okay, all right, let's let's watch some more, switching
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: back to worse.
- 1:25:18Speaker 5: Because women in recent memory had suffered so much, how
- 1:25:22Speaker 5: could their own daughters and granddaughters flee from such dearly
- 1:25:26Speaker 5: won freedom. What happened pre dan sometimes a creeping influence.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: What happened They couldn't be making a free choice.
- 1:25:38Speaker 3: No, let's listen to the rest of this life.
- 1:25:44Speaker 5: Slowly but surely, the stories of brave heroines pursuing success
- 1:25:48Speaker 5: and reports on world affairs were choked out of women's
- 1:25:52Speaker 5: magazines by advice columns on happy marriages sandwiched between ads
- 1:25:56Speaker 5: for vacuum cleaners. Women's college attendance plummeted, and of those
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: who did graduate, few went on to pursue a career.
- 1:26:03Speaker 5: Why should they. The very educators whose responsibility it was
- 1:26:07Speaker 5: to foster their intellect were the ones telling them over
- 1:26:10Speaker 5: and over again that they would have to choose between
- 1:26:13Speaker 5: having a family and having a job. The memory of
- 1:26:16Speaker 5: the suffering.
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding? And this is after you sent
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: a generation, a couple of generations of men to die
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: for this society, and then God forbid, they come back
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: to a job and being able to go to school.
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: That's why the enrollment of women plummeted supposedly in like
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties, because men were given the ability
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: to go to college in thank you for their service
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: in wartime, and then they were given a job because
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: they had just sacrificed, made the ultimate sacrifice for keeping
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: your society running. And this is the reward for all
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: of that.
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: This yep, Alberne retro gave us five dollars and said
- 1:27:06Speaker 3: the only suffragette that died did so trying to pin
- 1:27:09Speaker 3: something on a horse during a race like the Kentucky
- 1:27:11Speaker 3: Derby or something.
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the photo in the video. All right,
- 1:27:15Speaker 2: let's get back to the video.
- 1:27:18Speaker 5: For Jet was distorted into an ugly, bitter spinster who
- 1:27:22Speaker 5: compromised her own womanhood by demanding the same rights as men.
- 1:27:27Speaker 3: Actually, that's right on point. I like the band that
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: says me wear pants.
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: Well, he's not wearing pants.
- 1:27:36Speaker 5: Unfamiliar Women weren't forced into the home. They were gently
- 1:27:40Speaker 5: lured back inside through the combined efforts of advertisers, academics,
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: and politicians who.
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: Okay, idiots from idiots. Okay, So the Suffragette happened. The
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: suffragette stuff happened in the prior to the twenties, And
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: now you're saying that it had something to do with
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: women's choices in the fifties and sixties. Are you fucking mental?
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: The anti suffragette campaigns, which were primarily driven by women,
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: maybe a male figurehead, they happened decades before you're saying
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: they had an effect, Like.
- 1:28:22Speaker 3: But they use advertising and capitalism to like drag women
- 1:28:28Speaker 3: back to the kitchen where they belong.
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: Anyway, let's get to the video. What this is her narrative.
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: This is her narrative.
- 1:28:35Speaker 3: I'm just trying to translate from you know, her gooney language.
- 1:28:41Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it.
- 1:28:42Speaker 5: Aiming the status quo that suffragettes had upset. They sold
- 1:28:46Speaker 5: women an idea that for Dan coined the feminine mystique,
- 1:28:50Speaker 5: the title of her book. That's right, I'm one of
- 1:28:54Speaker 5: those YouTubers who has books in their videos. Now, for
- 1:28:57Speaker 5: Dane defines the feminine mystique as the ass that women
- 1:29:01Speaker 5: can find fulfillment through marriage and motherhood alone, but in
- 1:29:04Speaker 5: her own experience and the experience of countless other housewives
- 1:29:08Speaker 5: across the country, even amongst the most socially privileged. This
- 1:29:12Speaker 5: traditional position left them with intense feelings of dissatisfaction, fatigue,
- 1:29:17Speaker 5: and general unhappiness.
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: Now she guys called boredom. They were part of a
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: group of people with the greatest amount of leisure time
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: in all of human history. Must be frank because their
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: men were buying robotic servants to reduce their household labor
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: from like a twelve hour day, six day and a
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: week job to three hours a day, five days a
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: week realistically, which is also why people could now Like,
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: there was a point in time where it was extremely
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: difficult to maintain a household and a job at the
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: same time, because it was a household was a job.
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: Now we have a situation where you don't need a
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: female housekeeper or wife or a spinster sister to maintain
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: your house. You as a man, you can have your
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: own home and use these machines to run it. Okay.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: So the point is that this became something that gave
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: women a lot of leisure, and for whatever reason they
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: went nuts, maybe because of that statement idle hands or
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: the devil's work or idle.
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: Hands of the devil's playground, idle hands of.
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: The devil's playground? What she's discussed? Like, okay, what was it? Tiredness? Distress? Wow? Geez,
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: Like that's every morning for me?
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: Why is life so hard?
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: Why is life so hard? Giving me an extra Let's see, it's.
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: Like that that meme of that angry fat black kid.
- 1:31:01Speaker 3: It's like, why did the why didn't step shit? Cause money?
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: My husband has given me an extra seventy hours a
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: week to do whatever.
- 1:31:10Speaker 3: I want with?
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: How day so pressed?
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: Like god, damn?
- 1:31:17Speaker 2: Yeah, why couldn't Why couldn't.
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: Women paint right? Do philosophy reinvent civilization like the freaking
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: Greek philosophers? No, they had to do this.
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's do more.
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: I got well, I got another super chow to read
- 1:31:38Speaker 3: you a super chat Rather Albernita retro gives us whodolls. Canadian
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: says they weren't starved, they went on a hunger strike.
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: Yes we know she's lying.
- 1:31:45Speaker 3: I noticed, but she's either lying or misinformed. Either way,
- 1:31:50Speaker 3: that is what it is. Okay, next clip is right here.
- 1:31:53Speaker 5: To be clear, the feminine mystique has its serious blind spots.
- 1:31:57Speaker 5: And when I say serious, I mean serious.
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: Well, of course she has to say this. I just
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: wanted to point this out.
- 1:32:04Speaker 3: So like when feminists reference feminists of the second you know,
- 1:32:11Speaker 3: of the second Wave or before, they have to put
- 1:32:15Speaker 3: these caveats in because they're still.
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: They're operating in their own mindfield.
- 1:32:19Speaker 3: Imagine you are trying to make an argument that you
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: think would apply to the audience, but you also have
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: to acknowledge that you have an audience that hates everything
- 1:32:32Speaker 3: that happened yesterday and before, and they always look for
- 1:32:35Speaker 3: problematic things in any figure, even the ones that you promote.
- 1:32:40Speaker 3: So Betty Fridan is engaging in white feminism, which is
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: what she puts on the screen, and the lavender menace,
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: which I think is a reference to LGBT, you know, Q,
- 1:32:51Speaker 3: stuff that probably someone like Betty Friedan had a problem
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: with because different time, different standards. So she has to say,
- 1:32:59Speaker 3: don't hang me on by the news, don't bring me
- 1:33:01Speaker 3: to the guillotine, because I am, in fact saying that
- 1:33:04Speaker 3: she's got problems, and these are the problems because I'm
- 1:33:08Speaker 3: a good liberal and I do.
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: As i'm told. Please don't kill me or cancel me.
- 1:33:12Speaker 3: By the way, she also has some good points, and
- 1:33:14Speaker 3: I really want to bring them forward, but I want
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: you to stop focusing on this.
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: And that's what it is. It's just it's so pathetic, like.
- 1:33:20Speaker 3: Nobody can be direct, nobody can just say what they think.
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: It's so pathetic to see and it's really feminine. But anyway,
- 1:33:29Speaker 3: Alberjana Retro gave us another two dogars. Canadian says, idle
- 1:33:33Speaker 3: hands do the devil's work.
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, before we continue, how do they
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: square this with trans women? Like trans women want to
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: be women, or they perceive themselves as being women. But
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: what is it that they are trying to embrace.
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: Trans women or the feminists?
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: No trans women, like when feminists embrace trans women, how
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: do they square that with women's role is one of oppression?
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: And I mean because you have women's role in society,
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: which is of course oppression. There's no other salient characteristic
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: to women's role or being a woman except giving birth
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: and having you know, and and trans women can't do that.
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: So what is it that they are after?
- 1:34:21Speaker 2: Is what I'm getting at trans women? I think I
- 1:34:26Speaker 2: do you know, I don't want to speak for trans women,
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: but I.
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: Think they're engaging, they're engaging in the same game of magic,
- 1:34:32Speaker 3: the gathering of identities that feminists are.
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: They just think they have the winning hand. They think
- 1:34:37Speaker 2: they have the appropriate mana. I don't know.
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: Okay, So another super chat from Albert Nada retro two dollars.
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- 1:35:01Speaker 2: All right, so let's get back to this.
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: Yeah, how much more? How many more time codes do
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: we have? I have nothing new except the fact that
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: this apron gaateent maked out so many feminists.
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, there's two. There's one more. There's two left.
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: There's two left. Okay, so two time codes.
- 1:35:22Speaker 5: But the warnings in this book are unfortunately as relevant
- 1:35:25Speaker 5: today as they were in nineteen sixty three. That the
- 1:35:29Speaker 5: packaging for patriarchal values.
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: Can see, that's really clever what she does.
- 1:35:34Speaker 3: So she says, this woman was a problematic white feminist,
- 1:35:38Speaker 3: that was the homophobic, transphobic whatever, right, because she was
- 1:35:42Speaker 3: from the sixties. But you see, her book is still
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: relevant because the problems that I agree with have still
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: exist to this day, which is extra sad because patriarchy
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: is super effective. And so she can like claim that
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: I know that she it would seem like she's really problematic,
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: But look, her work is more necessary than ever because
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: nothing's changed, because everything is awful all the time. So
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: just you know, Polino Kaserati, thank you. Polino Kaserati's correct
- 1:36:17Speaker 3: to be in the home and raising their kids.
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: Like it's almost like it's biological.
- 1:36:24Speaker 3: It's almost like, why hasn't the society and population completely collapsed?
- 1:36:29Speaker 2: Why am I here existing as a woman?
- 1:36:32Speaker 3: If Betty Friedan's work wasn't you know, it didn't see
- 1:36:36Speaker 3: like any fruit?
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: How are we still here just to suffer?
- 1:36:41Speaker 5: Okay, anyway back to this very pretty In fact, they
- 1:36:44Speaker 5: can be presented as reaffirming women's femininity, protecting them from
- 1:36:50Speaker 5: the harshness of the outside world.
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: Women are like, this is ridiculous. This is absolutely flip
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: and ridicul You are protected by the harshness from the
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: outside world. You are you're speaking from a fucking harm.
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it isn't quite. It's more distributed.
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: It's a little bit more systemic than an actual harem.
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: But she's literally speaking from an environment constructed by men's
- 1:37:25Speaker 1: labor and the fact that men will willingly take jobs
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: that are much more difficult, dangerous, and uncomfortable than women will.
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: So she's literally speaking from the world constructed by men,
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: with the time allowed for by the innovations in maintaining
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: the home, also mostly constructed by men, And she's talking
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: about how these other women who are living in exactly
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: the same circumstances her are somehow more fragile, Like, look
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: at you. You don't have the shoulders of somebody who
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: shovels concrete. Lady, Like, seriously, stop packing off hairm girl.
- 1:38:15Speaker 3: All right, let's let's watch some more that they're more
- 1:38:17Speaker 3: to this clip about twenty seconds, and then there's one
- 1:38:20Speaker 3: more clip.
- 1:38:21Speaker 5: Lucky that they get stay home and fulfill their biological
- 1:38:24Speaker 5: destiny while men, I don't know, explore the stars. As
- 1:38:29Speaker 5: for Dan puts it, protectiveness has often muffled the sound
- 1:38:33Speaker 5: of doors closing against women.
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: Wait a second, are you fucking kidding me?
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: Yeah? Men, did you know, Alison? I was in space
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: just yesterday. I was out. I was just in the
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: stars in orbit, hanging out. Because that's what men do.
- 1:38:49Speaker 3: We just we can go to space, we can go
- 1:38:52Speaker 3: to Narnia. Women, you just got to stay in the kitchen. Sorry,
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: I'm off. I'm off to Middle Earth to help the
- 1:38:59Speaker 3: hop it's stay here. I expect five sandwiches of different
- 1:39:05Speaker 3: varieties when I return.
- 1:39:08Speaker 2: Goodbye, Allison, I'm off to another adventure.
- 1:39:15Speaker 3: But that's when she's claiming like it's like she again,
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: she's freming it, like women have to do these things.
- 1:39:22Speaker 2: Men whatever they can do what they can. Just go.
- 1:39:25Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the center of the Earth and
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: fight dinosaurs. I'll see you later, Allison. I got my
- 1:39:31Speaker 3: ray gun and my electric whip.
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: Okay, all right, lady. The reason why women want to
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: stay home is work sex. How can you simultaneously call
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: it wage slavery in a capitalist system of exploitation and
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: be confused that women are like yeah, hey, heye, Ted,
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: I'm gonna shove you in front of it. You know,
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: I'm gonna shove you. You do that instead of me,
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: and you can pay for me? Like what? Like, how
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: do you not understand that it's because feminism sold this
- 1:40:03Speaker 1: freaking bill of goods. Work sucks, That's why people pay
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: you to do it. It's as simple as that. And
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: if women have the option not to do it, they'll
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: take it. I mean, I know, you've got some weird
- 1:40:19Speaker 1: freaking scheme up your up your where everybody is gonna
- 1:40:22Speaker 1: get money, like the the the Federal Reserve is gonna
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: just print money for everybody, and then they won't have
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: to work, right and then and then we'll all just
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: be floating on cloud nine spending money on what since
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: nobody's working and producing anything like like this is this
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: complete delusion one to two point one million views. It's
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: completely deluded. Yeah, like not even existing in the fucking world.
- 1:40:50Speaker 3: Does she think that her boyfriend leaves like when they're like,
- 1:40:53Speaker 3: he's like, I'm going out see a layer, I'm gonna
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: go see hang out with my friends. I'm gonna go
- 1:40:57Speaker 3: doing my job, and then he leaves and she imagines
- 1:40:59Speaker 3: him holding the sword from the Stone, leading the charge.
- 1:41:04Speaker 2: Against the Orcs.
- 1:41:05Speaker 3: You know, like she just thinks that he's out there
- 1:41:09Speaker 3: having more fun than she is.
- 1:41:11Speaker 2: That's really what this comes down to.
- 1:41:13Speaker 3: She's mad that she thinks that people are enjoying their
- 1:41:16Speaker 3: lives somewhere and that.
- 1:41:18Speaker 2: She even though she's obviously not doing the trag wife.
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: They she's not.
- 1:41:24Speaker 3: You know, her boyfriend needs to dump her and get
- 1:41:27Speaker 3: out of there. I'm telling you, she's going to be
- 1:41:29Speaker 3: the death of him.
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: Seriously, most work sucks, and in fact, going to the
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: stars also really sucked. She doesn't even know how many
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: men died in all the test programs. Yeah, for even
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: developing modern of the modern space program. They were dying
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: constantly in crashes testing these prototypes, and without that we
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: would never have the airline industry, much less the modern
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: space program.
- 1:42:00Speaker 4: M hm.
- 1:42:01Speaker 1: Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about.
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: Her boyfriend is somewhere diffusing a bomb.
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. It's so freaking funny because
- 1:42:13Speaker 1: women like this they exist in the most rarefied layer
- 1:42:19Speaker 1: of the harem, where they're basically swaddled like eggs and
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: nobody even breathes on them. They have no conception of
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: anything that occurs outside of them, because they are so protected,
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: so delicate, so incapable, and their entire life revolves around
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: expressing how much of a victim they are of everything. Right,
- 1:42:43Speaker 1: she lives in the most causted place imaginable. She is
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: more coucetted than the woman with the egg apron or
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: the Mormon wives who are actually doing shit because they
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: understand risk. They've gone through childbirth, like they understand work,
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: they've had to take care of kids. They understand you know,
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: being productive, they're running a farm. She lives as a
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: Harem girl in the wing of the Harem marked particularly fragile,
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: and she is and because of that, because she's so causeted,
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: she does not understand how the world works at all,
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: Like she doesn't understand the sacrifice is necessary to maintain
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: her world. She doesn't understand the sacrifices necessary to have
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: gotten into space. And the fact that if newspapers had
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: to announce every other day a woman dying, people wouldn't
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: have allowed it. They wouldn't have funded it, Like, are
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? Especially back then every other day
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: another woman dies in order to get into space. No,
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: they wouldn't have tolerated it. And what did the Challenger
- 1:43:57Speaker 1: disaster do? And that put NASA back quite a bit?
- 1:44:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it did, you know.
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: And and so I mean it's like they wouldn't have
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: tolerated it because it required sacrifice of lives to get
- 1:44:10Speaker 1: to this point, to get to this point, of safety
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: that you could even start bringing women into it, and
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: she doesn't even know that. She is so caustic. It's
- 1:44:19Speaker 1: like it's one thing to be a harem girl sitting
- 1:44:22Speaker 1: on a pillow, but sort of understand what happens outside
- 1:44:25Speaker 1: the harem, you know what I mean? You sort of
- 1:44:28Speaker 1: like you have to because you're part of the pureaucratic apparatus.
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: You actually have to listen to what men are doing
- 1:44:34Speaker 1: and how to approach apportion resources. It's another thing when
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: a civilization gets so up its rear end that the
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: harem girls aren't even aware that they're in a harem
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: and what is required to maintain it. That's where she is.
- 1:44:52Speaker 2: Yep, Alison, I have to get the door. Do you mind?
- 1:44:57Speaker 3: I'm gonna step away for a second, but do you
- 1:44:58Speaker 3: mind talking about the razor real quick while I'm okay, yes,
- 1:45:02Speaker 3: ask people to send super chats and stuff.
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, all right, so I'm gonna I'm
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: gonna be doing that. Okay, So we are still doing
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: the fundraiser. We only have a few days left. Guys,
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- 1:45:14Speaker 1: get back into it. So I'm trying to bring everybody together.
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit more late notice, but
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: it's it's just been the way it has. Uh, it
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- 1:45:34Speaker 1: start getting into the swing of doing in person things.
- 1:45:38Speaker 1: Hopefully I'll be able to do it again next year.
- 1:45:41Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have more notice, maybe we'll be able to
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: do a bit more. We won't necessarily have it at
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: the same date as the Center for Men and Families
- 1:45:51Speaker 1: this event, so we can coordinate that a bit better.
- 1:45:56Speaker 1: But yeah, and again it's going to be the twenty
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- 1:46:03Speaker 1: If you want more information, feed the Badger dot com
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: Slash Events. I'll keep keep that updated and help us
- 1:46:11Speaker 1: out with that. I will see if there's any additional superchows.
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- 1:46:17Speaker 1: Badger dot com slash just the tip all right.
- 1:46:19Speaker 2: Yep, yay, okay, yeah, so.
- 1:46:25Speaker 3: I got some super chats somebody sent something. Yeah, so
- 1:46:30Speaker 3: Albernita Retro says for five dollars. It's Canadian again. Nothing
- 1:46:33Speaker 3: has changed, nothing, you just don't turn it off. Women
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: are still treated like chattel that men die to keep safe.
- 1:46:41Speaker 2: Get a clue, you silly folks. Women were still new
- 1:46:45Speaker 2: as chattel.
- 1:46:46Speaker 3: And then Nova Fan twenty one gives us a dollar
- 1:46:50Speaker 3: and says, I'd say I want to see the feminist
- 1:46:53Speaker 3: reaction to modern women complaining about working, but I've already
- 1:46:56Speaker 3: seen how second wave feminists react to housewives. And then
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: the last one, I got another super chat from Pepito.
- 1:47:05Speaker 2: He says found raiser and gives us five dollars. Thank you, Pepito,
- 1:47:10Speaker 2: pound bit Tito, Pepito.
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: If you want to support the fundraiser, you do have
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: to go to feed the Badger dot com slash events,
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: not just on YouTube because that that goes through YouTube's
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: freaking money seed. We didn't we It's like they take
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: half of it.
- 1:47:27Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, but you're new here, so we forgive.
- 1:47:32Speaker 2: But yeah, thank you for thank.
- 1:47:35Speaker 3: You for the for yeah, thank you for the support.
- 1:47:37Speaker 3: All right, so let me play the rest of this.
- 1:47:39Speaker 3: There's no Rocky almost done here. There's like, well it's
- 1:47:43Speaker 3: a long clip because this is her thesis. This is
- 1:47:46Speaker 3: her this is her money shot, I think.
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: So finally here we go.
- 1:47:52Speaker 2: I know what you are.
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: Say it.
- 1:47:56Speaker 2: Out loud, say it.
- 1:48:01Speaker 5: The feminist. And it's at this point that I am
- 1:48:04Speaker 5: forced to acknowledge that I'm no shit twist.
- 1:48:14Speaker 1: When you started forcing very restrictive gender roles on people.
- 1:48:19Speaker 3: If I is n night Shamealan in this video somewhere,
- 1:48:24Speaker 3: and I just didn't see it because I did not
- 1:48:26Speaker 3: see that twist coming.
- 1:48:30Speaker 2: All right, let's hear what she has to say about that.
- 1:48:35Speaker 2: Give me a second hero alone.
- 1:48:37Speaker 5: Am the traditionalist's worst nightmare, the thing that makes them
- 1:48:41Speaker 5: toss and turn at night, terrified that their daughters will
- 1:48:45Speaker 5: turn into harry opinionated, tattooed gender not conforming, unmarried freak
- 1:48:50Speaker 5: with too many piercings that lives alone with their cat.
- 1:48:53Speaker 3: We're effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via
- 1:48:56Speaker 3: our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies.
- 1:49:00Speaker 5: But worst of all, a feminist, a man hater who
- 1:49:03Speaker 5: draws unsuspecting girls to their doom with my sirens call
- 1:49:08Speaker 5: hell bent on destroying the country. But don't worry, you
- 1:49:12Speaker 5: can kill them by.
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: This is their thesis is it.
- 1:49:18Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this is what she wants us to know.
- 1:49:24Speaker 3: And you know, you ever notice how much pleasure feminists
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: take in essentially talking about how dangerous they are, and
- 1:49:34Speaker 3: they think they're doing it in a completely sarcastic tone,
- 1:49:37Speaker 3: like there is no way that anyone could believe that
- 1:49:40Speaker 3: I'm actually I have it out for society while also
- 1:49:44Speaker 3: doing everything that would well see.
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: People to believe that you're trying to tear everything down.
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, wait, okay, I'm gonna go deep. I'm
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: gonna go deep. She is actually the primary support for
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: the current through regime that we're part of. I'm gonna
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
- 1:50:02Speaker 3: Say that, Well, she is, obviously, yes, like I'm telling you,
- 1:50:07Speaker 3: like literally, did the demograt Party and Planned Parenthood give
- 1:50:11Speaker 3: shit tons of money to female influencers to go online
- 1:50:15Speaker 3: and spread feminist propaganda. I'm sure that she's getting paid,
- 1:50:19Speaker 3: Like those videos don't look cheap, and I don't think
- 1:50:22Speaker 3: she's doing it by herself.
- 1:50:23Speaker 2: So she totally is supporting the regime.
- 1:50:26Speaker 1: Yeah no, but it's deeper than that, Like, it's deeper
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: what she's doing and the actions she's taking are actually
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: supporting money having value. Okay, I'm gonna put it out there.
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna put it out there. I'm
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: gonna walk away from that. She is supporting the capital,
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: well not necessarily the capitalist regime, but the currency regime.
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: Like this is yes, sole like that's what she's doing
- 1:50:51Speaker 1: and in that sense, like she's also the problem is
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: that moving money around, the auction of the family moves
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: more money around. So there you go, like she's she's
- 1:51:06Speaker 1: part of the she's part of it. She is a
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: mouthpiece of the man, yes.
- 1:51:11Speaker 3: But the man agrees with her. She thinks that she's
- 1:51:15Speaker 3: the upstart, like when she says, I'm a traditionalist or
- 1:51:18Speaker 3: a conservative person's worst nightmare. She thinks the conservatives are
- 1:51:22Speaker 3: the status quo, but they're not.
- 1:51:24Speaker 2: They're the rebels. They're they're the upstarts.
- 1:51:27Speaker 3: They are the radicals over there falling in love and
- 1:51:30Speaker 3: starting families and not trying to kill each other. She
- 1:51:33Speaker 3: is part of the mainstream. She is every college campus.
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: She is the television, she is the film industry. She
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: is the fucking you know, political class. Like she represents
- 1:51:46Speaker 3: all of that stuff and thinks that she's the rebel
- 1:51:48Speaker 3: or the.
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: Underdog, but she also represents and provides power to the
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: elites who are manufacturing this particular a monetary system. That's
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not talking about you know, small
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: business owners or capitalism, or people exchanging good for services
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I'm talking about the entire system
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: of printing money. She is a cog in that system,
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: and she is unaware of it, or maybe she is
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: aware of it, who knows. But I'm just I'm just
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: laying that out there. I'm gonna just lay that out
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: there and maybe i'll, like, in the future we can
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: talk about it more because I know it's it's sort
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: of a difficult one. It's it's a it's an allisonism. Okay,
- 1:52:36Speaker 1: I'm seeing a connection. I am seeing it, and one
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: day I'll be able to explain it better.
- 1:52:42Speaker 2: All right, let's go to more of the clip here here.
- 1:52:46Speaker 5: By driving a stake.
- 1:52:47Speaker 2: Through their heart.
- 1:52:48Speaker 5: No, Nancy, that's uh, that's vampire. Actually, technically there is.
- 1:52:53Speaker 1: Just a lot.
- 1:52:55Speaker 5: There is so much misinformation about feminism online that it
- 1:52:59Speaker 5: would it's really easier for me to explain to you
- 1:53:01Speaker 5: what feminism is by telling you what it isn't.
- 1:53:07Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go, all right, So this is
- 1:53:09Speaker 2: the last part.
- 1:53:10Speaker 3: Let me see it goes for like a minute and
- 1:53:11Speaker 3: a half, and it's like women saying I'm not a feminist.
- 1:53:15Speaker 2: Well let's see what. Let's see how it goes feminist.
- 1:53:19Speaker 5: I can see men, and I don't immediately fal threatened.
- 1:53:21Speaker 5: Actually I have many male friends and I'm dating a man. Sorry, chapelone,
- 1:53:28Speaker 5: I have failed you.
- 1:53:28Speaker 3: I'm not a feminist.
- 1:53:29Speaker 2: I can wear dresses and go pretty.
- 1:53:31Speaker 5: Not to brag or anything, but I actually think I
- 1:53:33Speaker 5: look pretty phenomenal in a dress. Not that one, though,
- 1:53:37Speaker 5: That one is a hideous.
- 1:53:40Speaker 3: That's what is that? That sexual competition? Yes, criticizing the
- 1:53:46Speaker 3: woman's dress.
- 1:53:47Speaker 5: Okay, not a feminist, thank you. That's actually just basic
- 1:53:52Speaker 5: politeness that everyone should participate in. The only factor that
- 1:53:56Speaker 5: should determine who opens a door for who is whoever
- 1:54:00Speaker 5: gets their first Not a feminist.
- 1:54:01Speaker 8: I don't hate children.
- 1:54:03Speaker 11: Ah, those crazy feminists getting abortions for fun every weekend,
- 1:54:07Speaker 11: hissing at passing strollers and plucking infants from cradles to
- 1:54:12Speaker 11: put them in delicious children's stewdents.
- 1:54:15Speaker 2: You're talking about?
- 1:54:16Speaker 5: Which is Nancy language?
- 1:54:18Speaker 1: There are Oh god, damn. What does she get to
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: a point.
- 1:54:25Speaker 2: Let's see at thirty seconds left.
- 1:54:26Speaker 5: Let's see are so many feminists that are literally parents.
- 1:54:30Speaker 5: I myself worked in childcare for many years, and even
- 1:54:34Speaker 5: though yes, that's scary, excellent sources of protein, I am
- 1:54:37Speaker 5: proud to say that no kids died on my watch. Feminist,
- 1:54:40Speaker 5: I can actually cook. Cooking is actually like a super
- 1:54:45Speaker 5: important skill that everyone should learn. Feminism views domestic tasks
- 1:54:49Speaker 5: like cooking and cleaning as legitimate forms of labor instead
- 1:54:53Speaker 5: of just assumed responsibilities for women. It's traditional men, not feminists,
- 1:54:58Speaker 5: who view these tes asks as beneath them.
- 1:55:05Speaker 3: Really yep, So okay, so what she I mean, that's
- 1:55:10Speaker 3: the that's the end of the clip that I got.
- 1:55:12Speaker 3: But essentially what she seeves the land on is when
- 1:55:16Speaker 3: it comes to the problem with tradwives other than they're
- 1:55:20Speaker 3: living a better life than me, and I hate them
- 1:55:21Speaker 3: for that. But the thing she tries to claim, and
- 1:55:25Speaker 3: they have the bananas, is that they're doing labor, and
- 1:55:30Speaker 3: the labor they are doing, the cooking and the cleaning
- 1:55:33Speaker 3: and the raising of the children is something that is
- 1:55:37Speaker 3: bad because men look down on that work. I mean,
- 1:55:41Speaker 3: that's what she's claim, even though men are doing their
- 1:55:43Speaker 3: own labor. Like they're mowing the lawn, they're cleaning the gutters,
- 1:55:47Speaker 3: they're doing the roofing. They're, you know, probably also cooking
- 1:55:52Speaker 3: and cleaning and raising children. They're probably also involved with that.
- 1:55:56Speaker 3: They're probably also having a job and paying all the bills.
- 1:56:00Speaker 3: So she's trying to equivocat or make the claim that
- 1:56:06Speaker 3: feminists are all about all that, but they consider it
- 1:56:09Speaker 3: to be labor. Now, I think that's that might be
- 1:56:12Speaker 3: a point there, because she's probably a communist too, because
- 1:56:16Speaker 3: most feminists are that the fact that you're working at
- 1:56:20Speaker 3: home means that your labor is unpaid, which means that
- 1:56:23Speaker 3: you deserve something more, even though you're literally just like,
- 1:56:27Speaker 3: no one thinks of cleaning the house as a job
- 1:56:31Speaker 3: that is laborers. They just think that it's we should
- 1:56:34Speaker 3: all just do that because we don't want like cockroaches
- 1:56:38Speaker 3: and raps.
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: Oh, this one, this particular video also describes Project.
- 1:56:45Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, she does yeah later on Okay, good
- 1:56:53Speaker 3: sh I you know, let me see where is it?
- 1:56:57Speaker 2: Because I don't think I got that far.
- 1:56:59Speaker 1: Okay, it's thirty five fifty nine.
- 1:57:03Speaker 2: Oh okay, be afraid, be afraid, be.
- 1:57:08Speaker 3: Afraid of Project twenty twenty five, which basically nobody I
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: looked at it, went through it on a stream. You
- 1:57:15Speaker 3: could look at it on honeybathroom.
- 1:57:16Speaker 1: Okay, actually, you know what, go to thirty three fifty
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: seven because she actually explicitly addresses the allegations of capitalism.
- 1:57:27Speaker 3: Okay, it's right here, all right, hold on, let's switch scenes.
- 1:57:35Speaker 2: So here we have a woman I.
- 1:57:38Speaker 7: Had decline corporate ladders, and we boss babed so hard.
- 1:57:41Speaker 2: Now like we're a little bit boss babed out.
- 1:57:44Speaker 5: But that's just capitalism, babes. And I don't think becoming
- 1:57:47Speaker 5: a trad wife is the clever exploit you think it is.
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: It's just okay, so just give me a just give
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: me a question, all right. So capitalism is just capitalism.
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: It's wage slavery. So you're literally telling women to embrace
- 1:58:03Speaker 1: something that's making miserable because reasons. And when a woman says,
- 1:58:09Speaker 1: you know what, this is making me miserable, you know, husband,
- 1:58:11Speaker 1: you do it instead? That is being exploited. Okay, let's
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: find out, like literally, that's what's happening here. She's saying,
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: it's capitalism, it's wage slavery, it's bad. So you're getting
- 1:58:23Speaker 1: part of a system that exploits you. But you should
- 1:58:25Speaker 1: take part in that system that exploits you as a
- 1:58:29Speaker 1: woman because reasons, Because otherwise, the person that you're shoving
- 1:58:34Speaker 1: in the way of the train it might benefit from it.
- 1:58:40Speaker 1: You don't benefit from your labor.
- 1:58:42Speaker 2: I think I know why she's doing it. But let's
- 1:58:45Speaker 2: listen to the rest of this.
- 1:58:46Speaker 5: I have a theory drudgery for another form of servitude,
- 1:58:51Speaker 5: a form of servitude that has no salary, no HR department,
- 1:58:56Speaker 5: and no for a one k. Not to mention that
- 1:58:58Speaker 5: the reality for a lot of women.
- 1:59:01Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, all right, so we have
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: two forms of so called drudgery. One is for the
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: capitalist system that she she is obviously against, and the
- 1:59:18Speaker 1: other is for somebody that you love. Right, but that's
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: bad because you're apparently doing drudgery for someone that you love.
- 1:59:28Speaker 1: You would consider this a relationship, but apparently that's not
- 1:59:31Speaker 1: the case, and it's bad because you don't get a
- 1:59:34Speaker 1: four to oh one k. Your husbands will be given
- 1:59:41Speaker 1: to you upon his death, which he most likely will
- 1:59:43Speaker 1: die before you. But that's what she's saying, is that
- 1:59:47Speaker 1: a relationship that is mediated, so you are providing services,
- 1:59:52Speaker 1: not using money. It's not mediated through money is bad,
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: but a relationship that is mediated through money is good. Right,
- 2:00:00Speaker 1: How is communism going to mediate things? Like how is
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: it going to make people exchange things? And you can't
- 2:00:07Speaker 1: do it in a family as a result of your
- 2:00:11Speaker 1: care for another person, and you can't do it based
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: on money, Like do you get what I'm saying? It's
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: like what is most There?
- 2:00:17Speaker 3: You go again, Allison using rationality. It doesn't matter. These
- 2:00:21Speaker 3: people don't care. I'll tell you what I think it is.
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: I think that the reason why this woman is essentially
- 2:00:30Speaker 3: saying that despite the fact that capitalism is bad, women
- 2:00:34Speaker 3: should enter the workforce instead. She uses the fact that
- 2:00:38Speaker 3: there's a paycheck, which you know, not like men don't
- 2:00:41Speaker 3: supply women with everything they need if they are the breadwinner.
- 2:00:44Speaker 3: But never mind that because that's oppressive. But despite the
- 2:00:48Speaker 3: fact that there is no HR department, which is something
- 2:00:51Speaker 3: that women use to destroy men's careers all the time,
- 2:00:54Speaker 3: and that there is no four oh one k, she
- 2:00:58Speaker 3: wants women in the workforce because then firstly, you have
- 2:01:03Speaker 3: to make traditional life as seem.
- 2:01:07Speaker 2: As horrible, more horrible than working.
- 2:01:09Speaker 3: So you say this is worse than working, it's being
- 2:01:12Speaker 3: a stay at home mother and wife and raising children.
- 2:01:14Speaker 3: This is obviously far worse. And here's all the reasons
- 2:01:17Speaker 3: whyfe worse, and you know, a lot of it has
- 2:01:19Speaker 3: to be really hyperbolic, if not outright untrue. And then
- 2:01:22Speaker 3: those women are like, well, I don't want to be
- 2:01:24Speaker 3: a I don't be a you know, like a trad wife.
- 2:01:26Speaker 2: That sounds horrible. I'm gonna go get a job. And
- 2:01:28Speaker 2: then they get a job and they hate their job.
- 2:01:30Speaker 3: And then they go, well I hate my job, and
- 2:01:32Speaker 3: she's like, well, that's just capitalism. So it's essentially a
- 2:01:36Speaker 3: way to make women into communists, because if they know
- 2:01:42Speaker 3: that the trad life or like being a stay at
- 2:01:44Speaker 3: home mom isn't as bad as they were told, then
- 2:01:47Speaker 3: they might not pursue a career. Like you said before
- 2:01:50Speaker 3: with Betty friedan thing, if women had the opportunity to choose,
- 2:01:53Speaker 3: they would probably not choose to enter the workforce, and
- 2:01:57Speaker 3: they would probably choose to, like, you know, work something
- 2:01:59Speaker 3: out with their husband, like an arrangement that is fair,
- 2:02:04Speaker 3: which is what most married couples do.
- 2:02:06Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.
- 2:02:07Speaker 3: So she wants to make women into bitter, resentful communists
- 2:02:11Speaker 3: by telling them you don't want the trad life. Trust me,
- 2:02:14Speaker 3: it's awful. Here's all the reasons. So then those women go, well,
- 2:02:18Speaker 3: I'll just get a regular job, and they're like, man,
- 2:02:19Speaker 3: regular jobs suck. I don't get paid much. I'm burned out,
- 2:02:23Speaker 3: I'm overworked, you know, I'm struggling. And she's like, well,
- 2:02:26Speaker 3: you know, actually the trad life is a byproduct of
- 2:02:30Speaker 3: the capitalist system, and the capitalist system is really the problem.
- 2:02:34Speaker 3: So what we need to do is start a violent revolution.
- 2:02:37Speaker 3: We'll use a bunch of these stupid simpy men to
- 2:02:39Speaker 3: like help us do it. We'll burn everything down, and
- 2:02:42Speaker 3: trust me, they'll be something new and it'll be better.
- 2:02:45Speaker 3: It means got to be better than this, right, And
- 2:02:47Speaker 3: that's the selling point. Like what they want women miserable
- 2:02:51Speaker 3: so that they can turn them into commies.
- 2:02:54Speaker 1: One more step. Okay, what's gonna happen is will burn
- 2:02:58Speaker 1: everything down and then the people that print money will
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: give us salaries.
- 2:03:04Speaker 2: They don't even think that far ahead, Allison. They don't
- 2:03:06Speaker 2: know that.
- 2:03:07Speaker 3: They think that They still think that money is like
- 2:03:09Speaker 3: some kind of yeah, I know, but they might be,
- 2:03:13Speaker 3: but like even then, they don't know what they're asking for,
- 2:03:15Speaker 3: because that's not that's not feasible.
- 2:03:17Speaker 2: Plenty of men have said, many of smarter.
- 2:03:20Speaker 3: I know, but they don't look Alison, what I'm saying
- 2:03:22Speaker 3: is you're explaining this very well. The problem is these
- 2:03:26Speaker 3: people don't listen to reason. They don't care feelings, don't
- 2:03:30Speaker 3: care about your facts. That's their mantra. So it doesn't matter.
- 2:03:34Speaker 3: Like like, they'll be at the point where their money
- 2:03:36Speaker 3: can't buy shit, and they'll still blame men while this
- 2:03:39Speaker 3: is men's fault somehow, while they're starving and diseased and
- 2:03:43Speaker 3: getting like their night their nine hundredth booster, you know,
- 2:03:48Speaker 3: with their fucking bug sandwich, and they're like, why is
- 2:03:51Speaker 3: it so bad? It must be men's fault. They'll never learn,
- 2:03:54Speaker 3: like it's going to destroy us.
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody who's doing this can get them to blame men,
- 2:03:59Speaker 1: and they never actually point the finger at anybody who's
- 2:04:01Speaker 1: actually doing it. But I think their ultimate aim is
- 2:04:04Speaker 1: universal basic income, which means people just get money, and
- 2:04:08Speaker 1: they don't even realize how much that's an exploitation of everyone. Yeah,
- 2:04:14Speaker 1: especially because this is a mouthpiece to the pure, the
- 2:04:17Speaker 1: people who print money, and they all they want to
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: do is just keep money in circulation. They don't care
- 2:04:23Speaker 1: if it doesn't buy anything. If a camburger in the
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: US causes costs nine thousand dollars, that's nine thousand dollars
- 2:04:31Speaker 1: more for the GDP. And what they're doing is they're
- 2:04:35Speaker 1: using the circulation of cash in the US to make
- 2:04:39Speaker 1: the dollar attractive outside the US, essentially because the more
- 2:04:45Speaker 1: Americans use the dollar and the it's like the circular.
- 2:04:52Speaker 1: The circulation, the speed of it makes it so that
- 2:04:56Speaker 1: no matter how much you put out in the other economy,
- 2:04:59Speaker 1: as long as they're it's it's it's buying. Like, Okay,
- 2:05:03Speaker 1: if it takes nine thousand dollars to buy a hamburger
- 2:05:06Speaker 1: in the US, you can sustain a nine dollars hamburger
- 2:05:11Speaker 1: everywhere else in the world because there will always be
- 2:05:14Speaker 1: that demand. There are always Americans will always need more
- 2:05:18Speaker 1: money to buy things. That's why the American dollar always spent,
- 2:05:23Speaker 1: has less spending power in the US than anywhere else
- 2:05:26Speaker 1: because it needs to move faster, it needs to have
- 2:05:29Speaker 1: larger amounts. Things need to be more expensive in the
- 2:05:32Speaker 1: US relative to the rest of the world, so that
- 2:05:35Speaker 1: the dollar maintains its relative value in the rest of
- 2:05:38Speaker 1: the world. Okay, so it can always always is sucking
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: money money back into the US. Okay, this is a
- 2:05:45Speaker 1: really difficult concept to explain, and I probably shouldn't have
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: gotten into it. Sorry, guys, I I just I just
- 2:05:53Speaker 1: went too deep. I went too deep. I went too deep.
- 2:05:56Speaker 2: Let's let's sorry, all right.
- 2:05:58Speaker 3: What's the other? What's the other time? You want to
- 2:06:00Speaker 3: get to the product twenty twenty five thing?
- 2:06:04Speaker 1: She talks like, I don't know what more can we say?
- 2:06:06Speaker 1: She talks about project twenty twenty five. It's the next
- 2:06:10Speaker 1: paranoid thing. Because honestly, at this point in the war
- 2:06:13Speaker 1: and in the whole war culture war, on one side,
- 2:06:18Speaker 1: we have the people who are invested in printing money,
- 2:06:21Speaker 1: and the other side we have the people who are
- 2:06:23Speaker 1: invested in keeping people productive. So they want to attend
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: to relationships, family formation, they want to attend to business
- 2:06:32Speaker 1: and reducing regulations because they want to keep the society productive.
- 2:06:36Speaker 1: But I swear to God, and I haven't clarified exactly
- 2:06:40Speaker 1: why the people who want to keep for example, the
- 2:06:42Speaker 1: US productive making things are in direct opposition with the
- 2:06:47Speaker 1: people who just want to rely on the US dollar
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: as a currency. Like they're just there, They're at odds,
- 2:06:55Speaker 1: And I can clarify, but I cannot right now because
- 2:06:58Speaker 1: it's just I have to think about it. I got
- 2:07:01Speaker 1: to go into artists and cogitate on things.
- 2:07:05Speaker 3: You know.
- 2:07:05Speaker 1: Yeah, why different than the theater kids. You gotta just
- 2:07:08Speaker 1: retreat like goll them.
- 2:07:11Speaker 3: Don't take it personal when I pick on theater kids.
- 2:07:13Speaker 3: But they have it coming, all right. So Richard Pierre
- 2:07:16Speaker 3: gives us he does they do five dollars for Richard Berre.
- 2:07:21Speaker 12: Thank you, Richard, thank you for the five dollars. He's
- 2:07:25Speaker 12: always good for super chows. Perhaps now is the time
- 2:07:29Speaker 12: for you to show the meme that I sent to
- 2:07:30Speaker 12: your DM was sent to Brian and Allison, both of
- 2:07:33Speaker 12: the same. At some point, there will be retirement age
- 2:07:36Speaker 12: feminists making videos that.
- 2:07:37Speaker 2: Will either be ignored by the target audience or laughed
- 2:07:40Speaker 2: at by that audience. And he sent me a thing.
- 2:07:43Speaker 3: I'll just put it in a tab here, and I
- 2:07:48Speaker 3: guess I will share it with you guys because he paid,
- 2:07:51Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take that as an order and let's
- 2:07:56Speaker 3: share this tab instead. And if you can't see it
- 2:07:59Speaker 3: because it's small, there's an old woman pointing out a
- 2:08:02Speaker 3: young woman and says you're eighty or no, you're thirty.
- 2:08:06Speaker 3: Why don't you have kids yet? And the woman points
- 2:08:08Speaker 3: back to the old ladies and says, you're eighty, why
- 2:08:11Speaker 3: aren't you dead yet?
- 2:08:14Speaker 1: So charming? Yep, Okay, yeah, that's a that sort of
- 2:08:21Speaker 1: feels like what's happening here? All right? So I do
- 2:08:24Speaker 1: have a few thank yous to give, Like, I don't
- 2:08:26Speaker 1: know what we can say about Project twenty twenty five.
- 2:08:28Speaker 2: It's just well, you, yeah, you haven't looked at it.
- 2:08:33Speaker 3: So but all I'll say is is there are hundreds
- 2:08:37Speaker 3: of fake tanks.
- 2:08:39Speaker 2: They let me turn these things back on.
- 2:08:42Speaker 3: There are hundreds of think tanks in every government in
- 2:08:45Speaker 3: the world, and whenever there's an election, think tanks put
- 2:08:49Speaker 3: together an initiative and it has a bunch of stuff
- 2:08:52Speaker 3: on it. Every party does it, every wing, everybody. Okay,
- 2:08:57Speaker 3: this is not if it's not unique to America.
- 2:09:00Speaker 2: All over the world.
- 2:09:01Speaker 3: The Heritage Foundation is one such thing tank, and another
- 2:09:05Speaker 3: thing tank. There are plenty of left wing ones too,
- 2:09:09Speaker 3: the ones that came up with a Green New Deal,
- 2:09:11Speaker 3: for example, or sustainability initiatives. And the Heritage Foundation put
- 2:09:16Speaker 3: up this thing called Roget twenty twenty five, and I
- 2:09:19Speaker 3: went through it on a stream. I went through every
- 2:09:21Speaker 3: single thing that they want to promote. I went through
- 2:09:24Speaker 3: every organization to see if there was anything crazy or culty.
- 2:09:27Speaker 3: I wanted to see if the you know what was
- 2:09:30Speaker 3: that super fundamentalist, crazy ass family that would stand outside
- 2:09:33Speaker 3: of you know, military burials and say God hates you know,
- 2:09:38Speaker 3: ef worts, the Westboro Baptist Church. I want to see
- 2:09:42Speaker 3: if they were involved. It was super normy conservative shit.
- 2:09:46Speaker 2: It was. There was nothing weird.
- 2:09:48Speaker 3: It was all like, let's stop spending here, let's you know,
- 2:09:52Speaker 3: reform the Department of Education. We got to cut spend
- 2:09:55Speaker 3: It's all about cutting spending and cutting government bloat.
- 2:09:58Speaker 2: And that was the most of it.
- 2:10:00Speaker 3: I mean there was, you know, some of it was
- 2:10:03Speaker 3: you know, pretty Christian, but all of the fear mongering
- 2:10:06Speaker 3: and paranoia it's bullshit. Now, if you're a feminist, you
- 2:10:10Speaker 3: probably find it an existential threat because it is like
- 2:10:13Speaker 3: to remove or do something drastic to the Department of Education,
- 2:10:16Speaker 3: which I support because it doesn't actually educate anyone and
- 2:10:21Speaker 3: it's a waste of our money. But to want to
- 2:10:24Speaker 3: do something about that scares them because that's how they
- 2:10:27Speaker 3: indoctrinate people, that's how they groom children.
- 2:10:30Speaker 2: That's how they they I mean, like nobody is.
- 2:10:32Speaker 3: Served by education, Alison, Like our test scores for kids
- 2:10:36Speaker 3: are at record low numbers. People are garbage at general stuff,
- 2:10:42Speaker 3: but they know how many pronouns there are, So like
- 2:10:45Speaker 3: you have to ask yourself at some point.
- 2:10:47Speaker 2: This isn't working, and it's feminists that are doing it.
- 2:10:51Speaker 3: So when somebody says, you know, we should do something
- 2:10:53Speaker 3: about the departmentication, they're going to be Oh, they're radicals.
- 2:10:56Speaker 3: They want your kids on it. Like that woman, that
- 2:10:58Speaker 3: Mormon woman in the video that was like, I don't.
- 2:11:00Speaker 2: Have an education.
- 2:11:02Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were obviously able to operate your phone
- 2:11:04Speaker 3: and make that video.
- 2:11:05Speaker 2: You could read, you could talk. Maybe the education is
- 2:11:08Speaker 2: not good. Maybe you were better at homeschooled. You probably were,
- 2:11:12Speaker 2: you didn't want to admit it.
- 2:11:13Speaker 3: I mean, I know people who homeschool their kids, and
- 2:11:15Speaker 3: their kids are smarter than the kids that go to
- 2:11:17Speaker 3: fucking public school that are older than them. So I'm
- 2:11:20Speaker 3: saying Project twenty twenty five is way overblown. And for
- 2:11:24Speaker 3: the record, Trump said he's not doing that anyway. So
- 2:11:27Speaker 3: it's almost like a pointless endeavor to bring up and say,
- 2:11:30Speaker 3: oh my god, you know the scary I mean he should.
- 2:11:33Speaker 3: I would take a fucking wrecking ball to the Department
- 2:11:37Speaker 3: of Education.
- 2:11:37Speaker 2: If I was in charge, it'd be gone.
- 2:11:39Speaker 3: Like vivit Ramaswami would talked about getting rid of it,
- 2:11:42Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, dude, like this shit's gotta go.
- 2:11:45Speaker 1: What what's really astounding about? Like I just got some
- 2:11:49Speaker 1: few final words about this Russian said, all right, First
- 2:11:53Speaker 1: of all, she talks about how there's pressure too or
- 2:11:56Speaker 1: there's like this scheme to get women to stay at
- 2:11:59Speaker 1: home traditional men. What the heck was this? This entire
- 2:12:03Speaker 1: thing was her.
- 2:12:05Speaker 3: It's like they know that women are susceptible to propaganda,
- 2:12:08Speaker 3: but they don't like the other side propaganda.
- 2:12:12Speaker 1: Yeah, this entire video was about her insinuating that this
- 2:12:17Speaker 1: choice was wrong, dangerous, dangerous to other women, dangerous to
- 2:12:21Speaker 1: the women who choose it, dangers.
- 2:12:24Speaker 3: But it will also be dangerous to women of the
- 2:12:26Speaker 3: future because it could change, Like like if women as
- 2:12:31Speaker 3: more and more women become trad influencers, then that means
- 2:12:36Speaker 3: that there will be fewer feminists.
- 2:12:39Speaker 1: Yeah, well, here's the problem. Like it's consistently shown if
- 2:12:42Speaker 1: you give women the choice, they choose to stay at.
- 2:12:44Speaker 2: Home more to you gave men the choice, they would
- 2:12:47Speaker 2: stay at home.
- 2:12:48Speaker 1: Like shit, I give anybody the choice, they wouldn't take
- 2:12:52Speaker 1: wage slavery. Yeah, honest about truth is that exchanging a
- 2:12:57Speaker 1: forty hour a week work for fifteen hours a week
- 2:13:01Speaker 1: doing something for somebody that you love is ridiculously a
- 2:13:05Speaker 1: no brainer. That's why she has to have this long
- 2:13:07Speaker 1: ass conversation about how awful it is. It's a no
- 2:13:11Speaker 1: brainer to get away from wage slavery. Right, it's actually
- 2:13:16Speaker 1: sort of horrible that you make your men do it.
- 2:13:19Speaker 1: But on the other hand, men seem to take a
- 2:13:22Speaker 1: lot more of an identity from this kind of stuff.
- 2:13:25Speaker 1: They seem to me more happier to do it. Yeah,
- 2:13:28Speaker 1: they get more out of it, maybe emotionally, I don't know.
- 2:13:31Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge. I'm not going to judge.
- 2:13:34Speaker 1: That's how you.
- 2:13:34Speaker 2: I think that.
- 2:13:35Speaker 3: I think that men do want to feel like their
- 2:13:39Speaker 3: contribution matters, right, they don't they?
- 2:13:42Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, if they like stay home and do nothing,
- 2:13:44Speaker 2: I think it's soul destroying for.
- 2:13:45Speaker 1: Most is that she talks about how the other side
- 2:13:48Speaker 1: is doing these sinister things, and yet every bit of
- 2:13:51Speaker 1: evidence points to the fact that if you give women
- 2:13:53Speaker 1: a choice, most of them would rather stay at home.
- 2:13:56Speaker 1: They would rather do this a part time job for
- 2:13:58Speaker 1: someone they love and a full time job for a
- 2:14:01Speaker 1: bunch of strangers. You don't give a fuck about them, right,
- 2:14:04Speaker 1: Regardless of what you're saying. Is the protections which wives
- 2:14:07Speaker 1: also have, by the way, you ridiculous persons. Now, the
- 2:14:15Speaker 1: other thing is that she says that trad wives live
- 2:14:18Speaker 1: in a gilded cage, but trad wives or live in
- 2:14:24Speaker 1: less of a gilded cage than she does. Right. And
- 2:14:29Speaker 1: then the other thing is that, again, why is this
- 2:14:33Speaker 1: so important? Why is it so important that women work?
- 2:14:39Speaker 5: Like?
- 2:14:39Speaker 1: Why is she so worried? Why is this such a
- 2:14:42Speaker 1: such a thing that concerns her so much? Right? I mean,
- 2:14:49Speaker 1: they talk constantly about the exploitation of the workplace, sexual
- 2:14:53Speaker 1: exploitation of bosses, all of this other stuff. But for
- 2:14:56Speaker 1: some reason, a part time job doing something you for
- 2:14:58Speaker 1: someone you love is this onerous burden, you know? And
- 2:15:03Speaker 1: it's just there's a lot of question marks in my head.
- 2:15:05Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that aren't filling in. I
- 2:15:08Speaker 1: have ideas of how they fill in. I might be wrong.
- 2:15:11Speaker 1: I gotta work on how to articulate them. But this
- 2:15:15Speaker 1: is this, ain't it? Chief she's not some friends.
- 2:15:20Speaker 3: Mm hmm, she's not the only one. Like I said,
- 2:15:22Speaker 3: there's a whole. This is like one ship in a fleet.
- 2:15:28Speaker 3: But anyway, let's let's wrap it up because I got
- 2:15:29Speaker 3: a patron show and I don't want to be up
- 2:15:31Speaker 3: super late.
- 2:15:32Speaker 1: So okay, all right, So I once again I have
- 2:15:35Speaker 1: a few people to thank for. Oh yeah, okay, so
- 2:15:41Speaker 1: I want to thank uh okay, for some reason, I
- 2:15:45Speaker 1: think I got signed out. Okay, so I can think Perrie, ish,
- 2:15:53Speaker 1: I'll just call you Pierre. Pierre gave us twenty five dollars.
- 2:15:56Speaker 1: Thank you Pierre for news. Indeed, okay, and I got
- 2:16:01Speaker 1: signed out, so I gotta sign back in.
- 2:16:03Speaker 2: All right.
- 2:16:04Speaker 1: This is just now I have to do like one
- 2:16:07Speaker 1: of those capitcha.
- 2:16:08Speaker 2: Things, cap chut things. Oh my god, I prove that
- 2:16:11Speaker 2: you're human.
- 2:16:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm currently proving on human everyone. Let's find out
- 2:16:16Speaker 1: the results. Stay tuned. Looks okay, okay, all right, now
- 2:16:22Speaker 1: I have to wait for all right, there we go,
- 2:16:24Speaker 1: there we go. Okay. And then the other individual was
- 2:16:28Speaker 1: David USB violator, who I assume that's not your legal name,
- 2:16:33Speaker 1: So thank you twenty five dollars from David USB.
- 2:16:36Speaker 2: Violator thank you, bly Mama.
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