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Episode 164: Do You Have A Favorite NFL Opp?! · Play 4 Keeps Podcast

• Greg: Man, welcome back to another episode of the Play for Keats podcast. The only podcast where we say Jezebel. Jezebel. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: Jezebel. My goodness. Jax: Did you get the sale? Greg: Generational. That's a good ass. Jax: That's the that's the greatest song ever. That's the greatest. I I hope I hope he wins a Grammy. I hope he wins a Grammy for that hoe. Greg: Bro, that shit got mad. It's not even on streaming yet. Shit was Jax: It's not? Greg: it's not even on streaming yet. And he was like, I don't know if that nigga said, I think yesterday or two days ago, he was like, Thank you for the 1.3 million streams on the YouTube. I guess the message was needed, or some some shit like that. Yes, it was. Yes, it was, Papoose. For people that don't know, Papoose dropped. A masterpiece. Jax: For people that don't know, Papoose is a rapper. Is a rapper. I don't think nobody even really knows who Papoose is for real. Greg: Yeah, that nigga is Yeah, that nigga's a rapper. New York New York rapper. And this is high praise for Jackson. That nigga don't like New York New York anything. New York music, New York food, New York Giants. That nigga don't like New York Jax: That's not true. That's not true. I like some New York rappers. I hate I hate Greg: nothing. Jax: No, I like I actually I like the Jets. I hate the Giants. Greg: No, nigga, you just like Aaron Glenn. I don't like the Jets, nigga. Jax: No, I but always I like I've liked the Jets forever. Not forever, but like I liked him in the Mark Sanchez days. And then I got LT and I was an LT fan. So I I have liked the Jets, but they've just been trash, so yeah. But I mean I like some New York rappers. Greg: Like who? Jax: I like Jadakus. I like Nas. D Greg: Very. Jax: DMX from or he I don't think he's from New York City, but I think he's from New York. Greg: He's somewhere up there. Jax: And then like them, Griselda, all of them. I like them. Joey Badass. Greg: yeah, that's upstate New York. Jax: I used to like ASAP Rocky, then he got weird. Greg: I was a fifty cent goer. I fucked with fifty cent and the secondary. I'll give you okay. That's fair. Jax: yeah, fifty cent. Fifty cent fifty. I like fifty. I like I like some Ja Rule songs. Fat Joe says nigga, so that's it's a slippery slope with that one. Greg: You co sign that? Jax: Huh? Greg: You co sign that? Jax: Nah, not really. But like I used to think Fat Joe, I thought he was Afro Latino. I just thought he was like a light because, you know, black come in all shades and colors. And then I seen a picture of him as a child and he had he had the Rock Lee haircut. And I was like, he's white. Didn't know that. And I was like, that's why he keep his hair short. Greg: So you you agree you agree with him when he said he's the blackest nigga we know? Jax: I don't know why he said that. I Greg: Yeah. Jax: don't know why he said that. Greg: Well, this is a podcast for casuals. If you are a casual, this is the show for you. go crazy with it. And when I mean crazy, I really mean Donations. To donate. Donations. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Donations. Link down below. Here comes the money. Here we go. Money talks. Here comes the money. No, we do not have time for the Dejan Love sounds. Those are for special occasions. You know what I mean? Anytime we get an actual, factual, indeed, good donation, we'll give y'all that button. That's that's Jax: Ha ha. Greg: that's not for every that's not for everyday use. Okay. but Jax, let's go ahead and get into the real nitty-gritty. Let's get into some things that we do not care about. First thing we do not care about, we'll try our best to speed run. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: As I lost my placement. Steve Ballmer finally gives up, gives the fans a I don't know. I don't even know th if if this is an apology. He just finally given up. He just not gonna pursue charges. But I'm not gonna say he apologized to anybody, but Jax: It's not really it's a I'm sorry I got caught. It's not even a I'm sorry. It's a I'm sorry that this scandal happened and I'm sorry I got caught, but not like an actual apology for the circumvention. And honestly, I don't think he needs to. I don't think he needs to give a real apology for it. I'm fine with this. this is his statement he dropped on Twitter. he said it's been a very difficult time for everybody associated with the Clippers, and for that I have sincere regrets. I want to apologize to our fans, employees, my fellow NBA team owners for the distraction and distress this matter has caused, for which I accept responsibility. We're committing to putting this chapter behind us. We've communicated to the NBA that we are complying with the penalties assessed by the league. We have paid the fine and we are moving forward. there are still disagreements concerning the findings in the report, but this is not where I want to focus. The team owners should support. not distract, the challenges ahead of us are significant, but so is our resolve. yada yada yada with our talented roster, outstanding staff and clear vision, I'm certain we'll compete at the highest level and be an organization our fans can be proud of. I don't think you guys will be competing at the highest level anytime soon, but I digress. Greg: if if this was if this was a if this was a relationship post, it would be, yeah, you know, I had some fuck ups in this, but yeah, y'all don't y'all don't know what she did to make me get this way. You know what I Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: mean? Th there's some things that I may disagree with, but I'm sorry you feel that way. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry Jax: Yeah, is it is it I'm sorry your feelings are hurt as folks. Greg: your feelings. I'm sorry that this became a distraction. I mean, I didn't mean for this to blow up the way it did, but I would have did it the same way. I just I'm sorry it had to go this way. Sorry, your your feelings are hurt. Yeah, Jax: Yeah, bro. Greg: I mean, look, that's probably the best you was ever gonna get with That was the best Jax: For one one hundred percent. One hundred percent. Greg: That was the best you was gonna get and you know he probably he probably just understood there was a losing battle and on top of that As much as niggas wanna trash out and silver, that nigga that nigga's a former lawyer. Nigga knows his rights. You can't yeah, Silver Silver was a former Jax: Silver is? I know it. I know it. Greg: former lawyer. So That lets me know he smells bullshit. And that also lets me know how he moves. He know what the fuck be going on. This nigga's not oblivious. He just he likes to pick and choose his battle. But I feel like anytime Adam Silver feels like he's being like tested in a in a disrespectful or a derogatory way, that's when he just starts turning up. When it doesn't Jax: That that's what you gotta do. That's what you gotta do though. Greg: When it doesn't when it affects the NBA, but it doesn't affect him personally, he's cool. Sometimes he'll let that shit slide. He'll try to be nice. Jax: Yeah. Greg: But when you double back, I'm starting to see a pattern. Like I think I saw the first half the f you said what? Jax: It's like you you it's like you think you think I'm a hoe Like that's that's what he's like, you th you think I'm a hoe Okay. Greg: You think I'm pussy? Yeah, like I think the first time I I kind of peeped it was with that jaw morant shit. And I saw like how pissed how pissed he got, like after like the third time that nigga had to get up on the podium. I was like, yo, I had a real conversation with him. I thought we had a good understanding. he think I'm a bitch. He think I'm pussy. All right. Hey, you got it. Let it happen again. Jax: But Nago, in hindsight, though, everybody was tripping on that genre. In hindsight, everybody was tweaking on that genre and stuff so badly, bro. Yes. Greg: Including John Moran. Everybody was tweaking, including Jabarett. That was a that was Jax: Very very true. Greg: a weak that was a weak ass. That was that was crazy. Made Dylan Brooks look bad. He didn't even do shit. Next thing up. We do not care. The NCAA has admitted that was it with the Big Ten? The Big Ten officials messed up in that game with Western Michigan. versus Michigan in week one, to the degree of they did not follow protocol when it came to this or replay protocol. They admit to that. Unfortunately, they say that they can't do anything about this. they can't reverse a win, even though I think they can, they're saying, hey, we can. Jax: They they really could it's still early enough in the season. They can reverse the win right now actually. Like Greg: Even if you didn't want to reverse it and give a nigga a W, y'all vacated wins plenty Jax: Yeah. Greg: of times. Y'all y'all vacated like didn't they vacate like a hundred wins from Penn State with Bugano or some shit? Or Jax: Yeah, they did I'm pretty sure they did that. They vacated USC wins, I think Ohio State when the Terrell Prior stuff happened. Like they do that all the time actually. Greg: I'm saying they strip they they strip Reggie Bush of a Heisman nigga. Like y'all y'all acting like y'all ain't got power, bitch ass. Fuck y'all. What the fuck y'all talking about? Cause if it was the other way around, y'all would have made it right. Jax: If it was Western Michigan being miss y yeah, yeah. Greg: Yes. If it was Western Michigan and Michigan pushed it, and Dave Portnoy and all these little fuckers say, Hey, there wasn't a nigga, they would have reversed that. Because Jax: For sure. Greg: money is on the line and they understand that this win could make and break somebody going to the playoffs or not. They're looking at Western Michigan and saying, Hey, you not even in these kind of conversations. What does a W really mean to you? Bitch, Jax: Yeah. Greg: it's the principal. Fuck you. That's why Michigan can't do well for the rest of the season. They can't. Jax: Shh, they can't do well because that quarterback not good, but I digress. And they paying him like, was he was the one that was getting like, how much was like 12 shh Greg: Twelve mil. Twelve mil. Twelve mil. Jax: shout out to him. Shout out to him. 12 mil to be bad. Good work if you can find it. Good work if you can find it. Greg: Man, fuck all that. That was horrible. last Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: and last and certainly not least, I care sticking in the college football to Arch Manning debacle between him and AI. if you've been living under a rock, Arch Manning beat Ohio State. Congratulations to that man. after being down twenty one at the Av. there was an AI video circling around. Of head coach, was it Starkin? Sarkin? Sarkeesian? backhanding Jax: Steve yeah, Steve Sarkeesan. Yeah. Greg: the fuck out of Allie Rowe, an ESPN reporter. And unprovoked, that nigga Arch Manning said, Hey, y'all y'all y'all saw y'all saw them AI video no. The reporter asked him, Hey, have you been like seeing all the different tweets or whatever the case may be? And you said, yeah, like y'all been seeing those AI videos, and Arch Manny like, Yeah, like You saw that one where Coach slapped the slapped the hell out of Holly Row? LOL. Fucking hilarious. Jax: And everybody in the room started laughing. Greg: Yeah, which I feel like I was more I was more appalled at the laughter than I was of Arch Manning laughing and doing all that stuff. The fact that them niggas in there, that let me know those niggas are fanboys. Those are some those are some fans. Cause what the f Jax: Cause I'll be honest, I went back and I saw because I was like, I didn't see the video you were talking about. So went and I saw the video and it wasn't funny. Like Greg: No I'm saying Jax: just like in general, like it just wasn't a funny video. I don't I don't know. I just I just didn't laugh. Not even saying like I felt bad Greg: Yeah, like mo a most domestic violence. Jax: or nothing, like it just what it just was not a funny video. Like I I don't get it. Greg: Yeah, like like most like most domestic violence kind of like jokes I'm using that term u loosely 'cause we don't condone that shit, but like most Jax: Yeah. Greg: of the jokes it comes with like a There's something. There's some words. There's some jokes behind it. There's a one-liner. You know what I mean? At bare minimum, I I hear the the Chris Brown little Dicky song. I woke up Chris Breezy. Something. Something that gives you like a sense of okay. I can see where they were trying to be comedic. I just look like y'all are just abuse on women, nigga. What the fuck? That's not funny at Jax: d Yeah, like that's not funny. Like I don't get Greg: all, nigga. And the fact that you thought it was hilarious, I'm like, man, even at twenty 'cause the I know how niggas was. They were like, give the nigga Gracie. He's just twenty, twenty one, twenty whatever the fuck. Nigga, I at Jax: Yeah. Greg: twenty one, I wasn't gonna laugh at that either. I'm I'm sorry. Jax: I it just I I just want y'all to have a better sense it just I just want y'all to have a better sense of humor. Like it just was not funny. I don't get it, bro. Like Greg: I didn't crack up, nigga. Jax: I people are weird bro. I guess man. I don't even know. White people are yeah, white people are weird, bro. Greg: No, white white, white people, white people have a they're fucking weird, bro. Frat boy humor. Yeah. Yeah, no. Y'all got it. I don't I don't have any any justification for that bullshit. Jax: Yeah. Greg: But now that we got that out the way, let's go and let's talk about football. 'Cause basketball season's not here. We said fuck it, let's go into the NFL. Because quite frankly, ain't shit else to talk about. Literally. Literally. Jax: Yeah. so let's kick it off with Miles Garrett. he's hurt. He was on he's had the injury reserve. He's going I think he's he's getting surgery on his knee. I think they said like arthroscopic surgery or whatever. And It just leads me to believe like, why did the Rams put him on that plane to go to Australia on such short notice? Like, if y'all knew he was hurt already, and y'all put him on a I don't even know how long that flight. Say say the flight, I don't know how long. Say it's twelve hours or something like that. Y'all put him on that 12-hour flight to get to Australia to play that game. He wasn't good in that game because none of y'all were good in that game. Because all of y'all were sleep deprived in jet lags. So y'all got blown out. He did nothing in that game. Then y'all get on the plane immediately after the game to come back. And he's like, yeah, by the way, I need surgery. Like, none of like what was the thinking here? Like Aaron Donald's gonna re-retire because y'all niggas are playing too much, bro. Like, I don't, I don't get it. I don't get it. Greg: Now I don't know how long they've known about this. Now Jax: They had to like they had if if he's getting surgery like this fast, I feel like they had to have known it. Cause he didn't get it's not like he got knocked out of the game or anything. Greg: Right, right, right. For sure. If they knew about this, then my theory is they just kept it on the raps so that they can secure Aaron Donald. I feel like I don't know if I'm I don't know how on the fence Aaron Donald was, but if Aaron Donald knew a Miles Garrett might be out the first five weeks minimum. I'm almost for certain Aaron's like, good. I'm here to put y'all over the top. I'm not here to Jax: Yeah. Greg: be the main force, nigga. I'm not I'm not here going zero to that's how I get that's how a nigga like Aaron Donald gets injured. Going in too hard, carrying too much of the workload, fresh off of retirement. Jax: Yeah, im imagine Aaron Donald, Hall of Famer, don't dun already won the Super Bowl ring, one of the greatest defensive players ever. Don't need to come back. He come back just to help y'all and he gets hurt. Imagine him getting hurt, like. Greg: In and he get and he gir mind you, when he retired the first time, he was a able bodied nigga. Jax: Perfectly fine. Like he never I don't think he ever even suffered any type of serious injury. And like he Aaron Donald Greg: Exactly. Now now because Jax: never fell off. He like he was good his entire career. Like all ten years or whatever. Greg: Now not now that y'all falling up, now that y'all need me to do more workload, now I'm coming back home with the boot on. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Yeah, nah. I think they wanted to secure whatever contract they had. They wanted to make sure that nigga has shit in writing. And Jax: Yeah. Greg: once they had that nigga locked in for real, where it was like, okay, like he can't. I mean, he could retire, but you know what I mean? We got some money on this nigga now. Did that still don't explain why y'all put Miles Garrett on that fuck ass plane. That's crazy. And on top of that, and on top of that, y'all were like last minute on the plane ride anyway. Because y'all got there at the last minute. Y'all waited 48 hours before kickoff to go do that. That was versus Jax: It it just seems all this whole just seems poorly planned out, bro. Like I don't get and honestly, like, if y'all even knew Miles Garrett has some type of whatever going on, I wouldn't have played him in week one. Just being honest. Like having that crazy plane ride and all that. And I I just wouldn't have played in week one. He was just he's still Miles Garrett. He's going to be good when he gets back, but I just wouldn't have played in week one. I don't I don't know, Rams. I thought y'all are better than this. Greg: Maybe Miles Garrett was stubborn. Maybe it was like, I know, I know, I I feel like I can fight through this. I can muscle through this. And then we saw that Jax: Yeah. Greg: nigga, we won and we're like, brother, get that shit fixed. It's not. Jax: Can't you can't muscle through that when you play against Trent Williams, brother. I'm sorry about that. No matter how g you're amazing, but so is Trent Williams, so it's Greg: That's what I'm saying. That's what that's what the fuck I'm saying. Cause they had all them videos of this nigga out here. They teaching this nigga how to tackle niggas further, I guess. Whatever the fuck they was he was I don't forget. Some some Jax: yeah, some somebody's teaching him how to tackle harder and stuff like that? Like what? Greg: shit like this. Y'all had yeah, y'all had y'all had niggas shook. Y'all had, Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: my god, y'all harder. Now look at you. Yeah, nah. Jax: Stupid. Greg: Look at this shit. That's Jax: Yeah. Greg: why that's what I was saying. I was saying even before this. I was saying, yo, niggas gotta be healthy. Now, granted, I wasn't even thinking about Miles Garrett. I was thinking more about Aaron Donald and Matthew Stafford. Hey, D. Yeah. Yeah. Jax: Yeah. I was thinking about Matthew Stafford. And Puka shit, cause Puka be hurt too. Greg: For sure. You know what I mean? Y'all got some older people, but Miles Garrett, the young nigga? The nigga in his prime. All Jax: Yeah. Greg: right, man. I guess. I guess. Jax: Yeah. But since we still talking football and all that, week one wrapped up. So let's go ahead and overreact because why not? Greg: Absolutely. Jax: let's start with Let's get out the way first. Let's just let's overreact. I don't even know if it's an overreaction, but let's talk about this Jags Browns game. Specifically the Browns side of things, because Greg: Absolutely. Jax: good golly, Miss Molly. The Browns lost to the Jags 34-10. Looked worse than the score. Was Deshaun Watson played like Deshaun Watson, which is not a it's not a compliment. Greg: Very derogatory. Jax: The first clip because the game started, I hadn't tuned in because it was keep it to me. I'm not finna watch this whole Jags Browns. I'm you I'm finna watch sixty minutes of the Cleveland Browns play football? No. But I was gonna Greg: Yeah. Jax: flip through or whatever, just see what's going on. And before I could even do that, I think it was like the first play of the game, the f Browns first drive, it showed Deshaun, he just threw a pick straight to a Jags defender. And I was like, okay, it's gonna be one of these things. And it was I think he threw two picks. It was I don't know, man. It was just bad. All around. Just an incompetent Greg: It's bad. Jax: showing from a incompetent team to say the least. Greg: y'all to be a Cleveland Browns fan at this point, I mean it's always been a choice, but Jax: Yeah. Greg: good God, nigga. Like Nah, bro. Like this is this is crazy. I think the fact that it was bad is one thing. It's it's it's the it's the postgame conference in the in the comments afterwards that be blowing me. When I be hearing this nigga Jax: Who are you hearing? Greg: When I heard that nigga Deshaun Watson, when they had that nigga at the presser or whatever, well, first head coach Todd Munken was like, you know, there's there was still some a lot of good things I saw on film. On film. All right. Does Jax: He has to say stuff like that, I feel like though. Greg: he? Does he? Jax: He can't just straight like cause he can't just straight up destroy the team. You know. Greg: He don't got the lie either, my nigga. He don't Jax: And keep it we don't know he he d he wasn't specific. Maybe he did see some good things. Maybe he was like, you know what? Our a rookie tackle, he had a very good pass at a couple plays, you know? Maybe Greg: No, he's talking about Deshaun Watson. He said Deshaun Watson, I saw some good there was some good things on film, but we all gotta do our part. Whatever. Get your DeJean Love shit off. I get it. But when they ask Deshaun Watson, Hey, do you feel like the pressure to do well going into the home opener or whatever? Is there like a a sense of like, you know, trying to get this together for the fans. That nigga deadass was just like, you know, hell nah. That's that's more of like the media, all that media garbage or whatever. And he was just like, you know, media, media fans, you know, they they kind of, you know, you know, expect you to have four hundred yards and five touchdowns a game, to be satisfied when that's just not gonna happen every week. Brother, who the fuck ever said you needed to do that? That nigga beating La La Land so fucking much because who I've never I looked it up. Jax, do you understand? This nigga has never had a 300-yard game with the Browns. Where the fuck is 400 coming from, nigga? Jax: Ha ha ha ha. Greg: Why'd you add an extra hundred? I think a rational nigga, a nigga that's high on you, Jax: Ha ha ha Greg: would say, Hey, if that nigga gave me two t 200 yards, two touchdowns and no picks. I'll take it from Deshaun Watson at this point. That's not a good game, but goddammit, we get what we can take. Bitch Jax: Yeah. Greg: for now you gaslighted me. Who is who is saying Jax: You just Greg: that? Jax: we ha like they gotta stop they're not going to, but they gotta stop giving him the microphone. They gotta stop letting him talk, bro. They have to. Greg: You know how you do that? Not make him the starting quarterback, nigga. What the fuck? Get this nigga off the Jax: So you're of the I believe we're both of the belief that Shador's gonna start week three. 'Cause they said they already Greg: Absolutely. Jax: announced the Shams is starting this week two game against actually I don't even know who they're playing. the Buckingham. Greg: The Buccaneers. The Buccaneers. Baker, Baker finna light that bitch up. At least I hope. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I hope, nigga. I I I have different opinions about this nigga once he gets paid. I was like, damn. Wait, hold on. Jax: I just man, bro, if you're a Browns fan, stop. That's all I got to say. Just stop. Stop being just find a find another franchise, please. Cause I'm gonna be honest, I Greg: Bro. Hey, not even get some help not even get some help. Just stop, nigga. Jax: don't even think the Browns have that bad of a roster. It's just the quarterback situations. Greg: They don't have that bad of a roster. They have weapons. They have offensive weapons. Jax: They really like like Deshaun said Deshaun Jack. Deshaun Watson should never be your leading rusher. Like when you have Quinshawn Judkins, when you have Dylan Sampson, who are very good. you also drafted two rookie wide receivers. Boston, he caught a touchdown. He I think Boston is really good. And also KC conception. I think they're both really good, even though they're rookies. They got some help on the O-line as well. Like they they Greg: KC Conception. no what's that name? They got a good tight end fanning. Jax: They just need anything. They need a serviceable quarterback. And they just don't have one. And I'm like, golly, bro. GG is. Gigi. Greg: And it's just like it it is GG's, but it's just like this is where I would this is what I was talking to you about, Jax, where I was like, yo, there is no reason to have Deshaun Watson that there is no benefit for Deshaun Watson starting. I don't care if niggas don't like Shador. At bare minimum, even the the biggest Shador hater, I would think, would like Shador to just come in to just Prove them right and to be like, okay, yeah, this nigga is ass. Let's move on. Cause we know we finna get a a a quarterback in this next draft class or wherever the fuck. But this the Sean w what the fuck are we doing? Ain't no way I hold on, my bad. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. I'm not a part of this. Ain't Jax: You t Greg: ain't no one, hell no. Jax: How how you think Deshaun's retiring immediately a you think Deshaun will is gonna be a player that like retires of fi 'cause he's not playing anywhere after this season. Well you think he's gonna be a player that retires officially or he just wanted the player that just stopped playing? Greg: Yeah, the game's gonna leave him. The game is for sure Jax: First of Greg: gonna leave him. Cause if if if he really believes how he's talking right now, he think he think he got another chance in him. This is your last chance, buddy. Jax: Yeah. Greg: It's over. Yeah, nah, we good. Jax: But that was terrible to talk about. Let's go ahead and talk about something low key, like I think is good to talk about, and that's the Cardinals versus the Greg: Mm-hmm. Jax: versus the LA Chargers. Because Jacoby Brissett did it again. Cardinals Greg: Hmm. Jax: put belt to ass on the Chargers, and this is completely unexpected to be c honest with you. you say what? well, Greg Greg: Not by me. Not about me. Jax: doesn't believe in if I mean If man or Justin Herbert. And I can see why. This is the Chargers' first season with Mike McDaniel or yeah, Mike McDaniel as their offensive coordinator. He was a former head coach for the Dolphins, and people loved him because he was he was a he was a quarterback whisperer that made Tua seem like a serviceable NFL quarterback. So they were like, my gosh, they're gonna just the Chargers gonna go crazy. And they just did not at all. They looked horrible. And the Cardinals went crazy. So I'm I'm always excited to see Jacoby Rossette, you know, go off. Trey McBride did good as well. Greg: Absolutely. Jax: but one person who did not, and that's somebody who Greg wants to talk about, and that's Marvin Harrison Junior. Greg: I'm glad you brought that up. I'm so glad you brought that up. Cause I there's there's somebody that that watches the pod on on a weekly basis. I saw his tweet today about said thing about that. I'm gonna try my best to bring it up. But as I bring it up, Jax, get help me understand why it's not translated for for this. For this brother right here. Jax: Mark like that's the that's the question I think everybody wants to know 'cause like I I mean if If coaches if coaches and scouts don't have an answer, I for damn sure don't have an answer. Like Marvin Harrison Jr., he was a fourth overall pick when he was drafted. And he was very much warranted. He was the best Ohio State wide receipt wide receiver we've seen in a while. And now Jeremiah Smith is obviously gonna be the next guy up there. But like Marvin Harrison Jr., like his dad was a he has a pedigree because his dad's a Hall of Fame receiver. You know, he's like 6'4, 2'20, runs like a 4'4. In college, he was catching everything, he was just physically outmatching just. physically better than everybody and he's still like the same like he it's not like he got smaller or shorter like he's still like the same person he just sucks now and nobody nobody knows why I don't get it like he should be dominating and he just has not Greg: First of all, shout out to John. John, friend of the show. I think he watches every episode, so shout out to you. I appreciate you. This Jax: Shout out to him. Greg: nigga t this nigga and quote, this nigga is mid. And I will continue to mention it because he was worried about his name, image, and likeness being exploited by fanatics before even playing a down. I'm sure no one is buying his jersey in 2026. Niggas wanna be pampered instead of putting in that work. Man. Bear. It's kinda hard for me to even Disagree. Cause I get on niggas' head tops for that all the time. When niggas be too worried about something, and I'm like, brother, we we gotta lock in first. I need to know if you good. I said the same thing with that LSU nigga that was wearing number five. Hey, look, I don't care who's right or wrong. Please be good. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Please hoop. Cause you're doing all that yapping and talking. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to hear all that. I it just it just really surprised me with Marvin Harrison. It really does. Jax: Keep it bean. I think I think really the main thing that happened to him though, like he started off his rookie season sort of struggling. I think that just sort of affects because this is year three now, I think. And I just think like Greg: Yeah. Jax: once he didn't start off to the hot start, he wanted, I think it just affected his confidence. And then that combined with the Cardinal just perpetually being garbage, I think it messed him up. But I really do like, I think he needs a change of scenery. I want him to go to like a change of scenery and get get like a good quarterback. Like not not, you know, not a Sam Darnold, not a Kirk Cousins, but like get him a real quick 'cause I was I was really thinking during the off season somebody like the Chiefs or the Ravens are gonna trade for him 'cause those are teams that, you know, perpetually need wide receiver help and Granted, he struggled, but playing with a real deal quarterback like Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson or even Josh Allen, even Caleb Williams, just playing with a real quarterback, I think that would help him for real. Like Jacoby Brissett, I love Jacoby Brissett, but he's just not on that level. And I think I don't I just feel like maybe I don't just the a change of scene, 'cause this still it just it's never made sense why he's trash to me. I d I do not get it at all. I don't get it. It just does not make sense. Greg: And I'm not saying that people can't bounce back. because you know, even last even last year, Quentin Johnston had had a better season than normal. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So I'm it Jax: Yeah, Quentin Johnson was trashed when he started off his career. Now he's a serviceable player. Greg: Yeah. And granted, that nigga improved with IFM. And y'all niggas know how I feel about that nigga. I just think when it comes to a certain point. Y you gotta be An elite quarterback can only do so much too. Like if you saying Jax: That's fair. Greg: we gotta go, we gotta go to the top, he need a top five QB to get right. Fuck. You can't even Jax: Yeah. Greg: be with Sam Donald that won a Super Bowl. That's not enough. That nepotism crazy. Jax: Yeah. Yeah. Greg: It's one thing to be like, hey, maybe the Jacoby Brissett thing, maybe the Shador Tua. Okay, of course. Of course. I'm not Putting you there. But he gotta have Stafford? That's nuts, nigga. I ain't gonna lie. That's wild. Jax: But I just think he he just needs as much help as he can get. And those are those those are teams that need wide receivers. So I'm just trying to see if it works out. Greg: I'm saying he had Kyler Burry to a degree. Jax: Shoot, speaking of Kyler Murray, we ain't that wasn't on like the rundown, but golly, talk about unlucky. Greg: Yeah, that's fucked up too. Jax: He he finally got, you know, Minnesota or actually think about Justin Jefferson, talk about unlucky. He finally got him a real quarterback. And Kyler Murray gets knocked out of the game on a dirty hit while he's sliding. He gets concussed. Like I thought he I thought he hurt his leg when he fell or whatever, but that's just because like his body froze up and like his leg he was like his leg was like Greg: Right. Jax: sticking out straight. So I was I thought he was with a knee problem, but no, they were like, he was unconscious. So I doubt he's starting week two. I don't know if anything has been confirmed Greg: He's wrong. Jax: or not. But damn Justin Jefferson, that sucks. Greg: Damn. It's it's not looking good for Minnesota, man. Not at all. Jax: Yeah. And the f the fact it was a dirty hit too or not I even want to call it dirty, it was just a late the fact it was a late hit, like there's nothing you could do about that. And it's like damn, that's the part that sucks. Greg: Yeah, it's fucked up. It's it's it's fucked up, bro. Can't even Jax: Let's talk let's talk about some more bottom feeder teams. Who we, you know, have potential, sorta kinda, or at least we want to see them do good. And that's the Jets and the Titans. The Jets put belt to the Titans twenty three ten. Shout out to Aaron Glenn. I really I want him Greg: Absolutely. Brees Hall had a nice little decent game. Jax: I want that black man to succeed as a head coach, so I want him to get as many wins as possible. But then on the Titans side, I I I do wanna see Cam Ward do well. He did not do well last game, so that sucks, but I'm I'm excited. I like I want Gino to have a bounce back year and hopefully he can do it. they didn't really need much from him this game, and he Greg: I don't Jax: didn't throw a touchdown or nothing like that, but you know, Brees Hall was a good running back. He had a hundred yards, he went crazy. Garrett Wilson doing Garrett Wilson things. So I I truly do expect the Jets to be at Mint Murray. Yeah, at minimum I won't I think the Jets can be like a seven win team. And that's that'd be a gigantic step up from what they were last year. Titans, on the other hand, I I thought they'd be better. This was a really, really, really poor showing from them, so I don't know what to expect from them, if we're being completely honest. Greg: Before I start slandering motherfuckers, let me just first give my flowers to the New York Jets. Okay. A lot of people, including myself, didn't have y'all doing too much, too crazy. And granted, I understand this is this is just the Titans. It's still week one. We are overreacting. Jax: Yes, it's still week one. But we overreacting for a reason, damn it. Greg: And of course, hometown hero Aaron Glenn is always gonna have supported me. and we'll see how things go, but I I liked what I saw for the most part. Now that I got that shit out of the way. Now I get to now I get to talk about Cam Ward. Alright, look. Respectfully, Cam. Niggas don't have long leashes. All right. Niggas don't have long leashes. I'm gonna let y'all niggas know that right now. gotta see an improvement this year. I hate to be one of them niggas that's like, hey, this is this this is the last year. I'm not saying nothing too crazy, but I am saying all this we ass and all the like all this stuff that you normally do. It was cool when you first came in. Because niggas love that Moxie. Niggas love when you talk shit. But niggas don't Jax: Yeah. Greg: love when you talk shit. And the record is 1-16, 0-17, 3-14. That shit gets old quick. Ask Baker Mayfield. All right? Ask Baker Mayfield. Ask any other quarterbacks. And we're only talking about quarterbacks. Because any other skill position, they can be on unapologetically. It did not matter if Ocho Cinco was three and fourteen. That nigga could talk crazy because hey. That's just what other school positions do. At the quarterback position, your shit got to be together. Everything has to make sense. It goes from confidence to cocky and arrogant super quick. Ask, Jax: Real fast, real fast. Greg: ask, ask your man, ask your man Shador. Ask your man Shador. It goes from confidence to yeah. hell no. So I'm just saying, I'll I'm rooting for you, Cam. But all right, don't don't. Jax: Have you seen you seen that reporter that keeps trying him? Greg: Yes. Jax: I th his name is what is it? His name is Jared yeah, I got right. His name is Jared Stillman. He like I seen Greg: God. Jax: interview he gave with Cam before week one. He was talking shit in that interview. Now this is another thing. He said he asked Cam Ward or if he thinks he was a good quarterback. And this is what Cam had to say. In this report I do this to Cam, or like I said, he did the week before. I think this is gonna be as long as the Titan struggles, this might just be a recurring theme with this reporter. And Cam is a better man than me, 'cause I ought to insult I ought to call him out his name. Cause you can't keep talking to me like this, bro. I don't care who you are, you're not gonna just keep talking to me like that. Greg: Yeah, and it's just like that sound like a nigga that didn't want you drafted, nigga. I don't know. This this sounds like a nigga that didn't want you a part of the organization, but was was forced to enjoy you were at at the quarterback position. But yeah, I mean look, Cam, look, I I I'm I understand that you was the number one overall pick, but I'm trying to let y'all know these draft picks don't hold the same weight like they used to. Hey, they cut bait quicker. You not finna just be sitting here five, six seasons. They'll they'll get you up out of there real soon. don't don't act like we just Jax: Yeah. Keep doing let let the let the Titans get the number two pick or something like that. They might Greg: All of a sudden, all of a sudden, we they speaking, they speaking Trinidad Chamberl. They speaking Arch. They speaking whoever the fuck is is next up. I'm almost for certain Will Levis didn't think his lease was gonna be that short. I don't know why he I don't know why he would have. I don't know why he would have. But I'm almost Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: for certain he came in there like, I'ma at least have two seasons. No, nigga. That's not how that works. Especially when we're in a dead age. Where and I know we're going a little long, but we're in a day and age where quarterbacks are having great progressions right off the bat. Like you having Jaden Daniels. Yes, bro. Like Jaden Daniels, Rick, which one? Jax: Fast. Drake May went to the Super Bowl in his second year. Or wait, was second or third? I can't remember. Drake May. Was that his second year or his third year? Last year. Greg: Probably third. Yeah, third third year maybe. Jax: Wait, no no, 'cause K he was in the same draft as Caleb and was this that was his second year then, last year. Or I'm tripping. Greg: yeah. Yeah, it was twenty twenty three? Yeah. Or twenty twenty four. Nah, it's twenty twenty four. Yeah, you're right. It's two yeah. This is this is his third year, so second year he went to the Super Bowl. Jax: Yeah, so Drake Matt went to the Super Bowl in his second year. Like, Caleb Williams, we're already talking about him as one of the top, like, he's already seen as like a top ten quarterback in this his third year. So went to the NFC Championship. Greg: Jaden Daniels, his rookie year, went to the NFC Championship. Mind you, these are all quarterbacks in the same draft class. Holy fuck, nigga. God damn. Mind you, mind you, even though we, even though some people in this pod don't respect it, Bo Knicks went to the AFC Championship. Jax: Crazy. Greg: Mind you, same draft class. They're gonna talk about the draft class. my God. Hey, they're gonna talk about the draft class. Jax: They will. They will. They will. Greg: When it's all said, done. My goodness. Hold on, bitch. All on rookie deals. So Yeah, we're we're we're it's it's different. So tighten up, nigga. Tighten up. Jax: Yeah. one more overreaction I guess. We ha we have to do it, Greg. I'm sorry. Greg: I saved it. I I I knew where you were gonna go. I ain't even wan I I ain't even mention it 'cause I where we're going. Jax: Yeah. Dallas lost to the Giants. Sucks. It was it was twenty eight to twenty. Low key, high key, it was it didn't look this close at all. this was a game that I feel like Dallas really I mean, we both feel like Dallas should've won. I don't think Dallas played very well. I mean obviously, but like they Greg: No. Jax: just Just like visu, like just like visually looking at it, like they just were not. I don't know. It was like they were out physical, big time, especially on defense. There was some bone-headed drops by CD and Pickens. But Loki, like that happened last year at the start of the year, too. So I think I don't know what's up with them niggas. They just do that sometimes. So I don't know how mad I can get, but it's just I knew this game was going to be a loss, though, as soon as on the first drive with Dallas, They got the first down and then the refs called it back. They're like, no, exactly like, you know, inches short and it was going to be fourth and inches and Dallas just punted the ball. And after that I was like, Okay, yes, it's gonna be one of those games and unfortunately it wasn't one of those. Greg: Yeah, nigga yeah, niggas, yeah. Whenever Cowboys come and this is no d I'm not calling anybody out their name. But when niggas start moving pussy off the fr and and try Jax: It doesn't Greg: to and try to conservative shit. Jax: It don't get rewarded. That behavior doesn't get rewarded. Especially not early in the game like this. Greg: Never, bro. Never, bro. Yeah, I'm saying, and we on the road, nigga. Like, I mean, hold on, bitch. Like and and and it's like our offense is good enough to get the conversion. It's one thing if we ain't got the facilities. Y'all out here calling this one the best offenses in the league. Bitch, go for that shit on the fourth was it fourth and inches? Fourth and one? One of them bitches. Jax: It was like literally fourth and inch, like I think it was like half a foot or whatever. Something crazy. Like like I could have got that hook. Greg: I'm saying y'all pussy, punch that shit in. Punch that shit in. So I I knew off rip, it was like, okay, this is gonna be okay. They might wake up in the second half, which they really didn't. But yeah, Jax: Yeah no. Greg: nah. the D the offense, they're not gonna have too many. I'm not really worried about the offense. The offense, they're gonna bounce back. That defense ain't show me shit. All this yapping about Jax: Scared. Worried. Greg: All these niggas in the motherfucking off season. You know, look, I know it's only week one and I I'm not giving up on Caleb Downs and none of this other shit. I'm just like, all right. Jax: Cal I don't think Caleb Downs played bad. He had that forced fumble. The sack fumble. He had Greg: Yeah, that's Jax: that. That was that was tough. I I appreciated that, Caleb. Thank you. You did your job. Greg: That's that's fine and all, but I'm just like, okay. all this offseason shit. We got the talent on defense too. It it y'all gotta scheme this shit up better. Something something gotta shake. And y'all better do it fast, cool. I think we played we can play the commanders next. Right? Why we playing two back to back division Jax: Yeah, but Commander's next. Greg: niggas? Goddamn. We can't space this out. Jax: Shit crazy. But one like glimmer of hope, I guess you could say, is that Christian Parker, he's a Dallas like defense was horrible, putrid. But Christian Parker, he's Dallas' new defensive coordinator. He comes from like the whole Vic Fangio tree. And Vic Fangio is like a legendary defensive coordinator. And one thing about his style of defense is like Teams always like historically because he was with the Eagles, he was with the Dolphins, like I think he was also with the Steelers for a little bit. I could be mistaken about that one though. So never mind about that. But like his defense, they always start off like the first part of the season because like a complex scheme. So it always starts off a little bit rocky. And then by like, you know, week three, week four, the defense like, okay, everything clicks, everybody starts, you know, playing together, moving like a unit, and they, you know, just are awesome. So hopefully. It clicked like that for Dallas. You know, hopefully it clicked sooner rather than later. But yeah, I I was not I was not impressed at all by this game. I was very disheartened. Good lord. You let Cam Scatterbow and Jackson Dark do y'all like that. I can't I can't believe that. I can't believe that shit. I can't believe that shit, bro. I don't I Greg: I mean, I I literally have I have no words for that. They them niggas was spamming the same plays over and over, nigga. They just Jax: Bro, when they threw the they threw the ball to the flat three times in a row and score, I was like, Man Greg: It was horrible, bro. Jax: I hate this division, bro. I hate this division. Greg: Terrible. Jax: But sh speaking speaking of division though, I actually seen I seen a tweet and it made me it made me start thinking. Had to stop talking. I gotta find I thought I had that bitch. Let me find that bitch. Alright, bit. What the fuck? my shit being stupid now. But what did I say? I don't remember what I said. Greg: You saw a tweet you said you saw a tweet or something like that? Jax: yeah, but I saw a tweet and it made me it made me start thinking. So I I had to I wanna pose this question to Greg. Like, do you have a favorite op in football? Like somebody who like, okay, he's cold, but I can't you you don't wanna give him too much because he plays for the Rifles. Now I got a couple in my mind, but I wanna start with you. You got any any you're thinking of at the moment? Greg: I have two if we're talking current players, I got two off. Jax: I'm gonna be honest, it's no I'm I don't fear nobody no current because no current players in the NFC East in my in my like damn he's cold. I I don't I don't think none of y'all really that tough for real. I'm not gonna lie to that. I'm not gonna Greg: Ha ha ha. Jax: lie. I'm not gonna lie. Greg: Like, Saquon is tough, but I don't I never find myself like overly glazing that nigga. Or like overly being like, my god, like I wish he was I wish he wasn't in my division. Nigga been in my d he went from one team to another team in the same division, nigga. I'm no not I'm not really moved. But Jax: Yeah. I actually got a I got a hot take about Saquon, but I'm I'm gonna say that for later on. Greg: I don't really think it's a hot to you. I feel like you d I I feel like you didn't say a lot about this nigga. Jax: Well I think I got I got evidence to back it up now, I think. Greg: Well, I'll say this. When it comes to current players, my favor my favorite op doesn't mean I fear it, but it is my favorite, Jax: Yeah. Greg: was Jalen Hurts for sure. when he Jax: Okay. Greg: first came into the league, that's a Houston nigga. So I genuinely, no funny Jax: Yeah. Greg: shit, I genuinely do be rooting for any nigga that either played for University of Houston or is from the city of Houston at any given time. So when they was Jax: Yeah. Greg: talking crazy about I remember how niggas used to talk crazy about Jalen Hurts after Tua replaced that nigga in Alabama and he went to OU and niggas was saying he was never gonna Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: be like no crazy quarterback when he came to the NFL. And Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: niggas got pissed when he got to the second round with the Eagles because y'all had Carson Wentz. I was wanting that nigga to succeed, but I couldn't go too crazy because bitch is still the Eagles. Fuck you. Fuck Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: you, nigga. And He don't put no fear in my motherfucking heart. But he was somebody that I was rooting for. I still root for it from time to time, but like Isn't it isn't that yeah, you know. Jax: Yeah. I I root for all black quarterbacks. I need I need all black quarterbacks to do well 'cause you know how it is, bro. Greg: Yeah, you know, you know how that shit go. But as far as fear, I I mean fear, yeah, that that's that's my pet like we talking about the twenty tens. The twenty tens of me. I Jax: Yeah. Greg: got I got some niggas back then, but current nah, we could Jax: Yeah, no, my favor. I like I said, I don't have no no current pe I don't care about I'm not like yeah, y'all are I think y'all are like the teams are good sometimes. Like the Eagles, the some of the Eagles is good, but ain't no play. I ain't worried about no ooh, Quenyan Mitchell, I guess. I seen C D and George Pickens do him in multiple times before. I'm not I'm not worried about Greg: god, bro. Jax: him, bro. Like, but my favorite op not really one of my favorite football players ever. Is Deshaun Jackson. Cause God fucking. Every single time he played the Cowboys, Greg: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jax: no matter what team he played for, whether it was the Eagles, whether it was the the Commanders, whether it was the Bucs, whether it was the Rams, every single time he played the Cowboys, did them dirty. Did them so dirty, bro. I couldn't stand it. But he was so tough. So I had to, he was tough. So I had to be like, you know what, man. I just gotta hand it to him. So I'd say Deshaun Jackson was my favorite op 'cause that that nigga was cold, bro. That nigga was a monster. Greg: Well yeah, when it came to my favorite ops for sure back in the day, Mike Vic. Eagles, Mike Vic, bro. Jax: I don't even wanna call him a op cause like I liked when he was with the Falcons. Greg: Yeah, but like when he became an Eagles post jail, it was one of those things where like, of course, I'm not talking, I'm not even talking about the fear factor. It was just the fact of Jax: Yeah. Greg: I fucked with Mike. Damn this nigga with the Eagles. It's like I can't Jax: Yeah. Greg: I can't like go too crazy or else somebody from the fan like the fans are gonna be like, all right, get off this dick, bitch ass nigga. Like, all right, bet. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Like, you know, I gotta, I gotta chill. I can't be like an outright fan like I used to be because you you out here throw Mike Vic the the sha Djack? Fuck. Jax: Li listen, but that's listen. Greg: that was a crazy era. Nigga and it had the black jerseys. I couldn't I couldn't even. That was a crazy time. That was a crazy era. Lashawn, even though I don't even like that nigga no more. Jax: Yeah. I think Yeah, I was gonna say I think LeShawn is another one 'cause I I do not like LaShawn McCoy now. Like his media career, I hate it so much. I wish he would stop talking. Greg: I hate that shit, bro. Jax: But on that football field, dog. Greg: Shit, bro. Yeah. Jax: Like kid I would take him over Saquon I would take him before Saquon. I'm not even joking when I say that. Greg: yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not that's not crazy to say. That's not crazy Jax: Yeah. Greg: at all. Yeah, man. That's I think, man, am I am I missing some? Of course, Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers. Fuck, bro. Jax: Fuck. I hate that guy, bro. Greg: Hey, that nigga gave me more, I'm gonna be honest with you, that nigga gave me more fear as a Cowboys fan than Tom Brady. Cause we would just never see Tom like that. Like I had to go through Tom. I didn't have to go through Tom. Jax: We yeah, and see it's on brady angles. Greg: For real. So like we barely played them niggas. But that nigga Aaron. Aaron with a yo. Jax: Gosh bro I hated him 'cause he was always cold, bro. Greg: Aaron, Aaron with a minute thirty left on the clock. And all he Jax: I just knew I'm when when it got to that when ninety second I just knew I was like, okay, we lost this game. Perfect. Greg: This nigga, this nigga finna run us goddamn down the field. Jax: Bro, I cannot, I cannot remember what year it was, but it was it was in the playoffs or whatever. I remember DeMarcus Lawrence almost sacked that nigga Aaron Rodgers. He spun out of it, was rolling to his left, and threw like a 50-yard dime to I think it was like Jermicho Finley, who was like sliding out of bounds, and it caught he caught it and set him up with field goal range. I'm just like, my nigga. What can you do about that, bro? Cause it wound in the Greg: Like that. Jax: game. I was just like, yo, I can't there's nothing I can do with this man, bro. Aaron Rodgers was Greg: Like he literally just Different nigga. Yeah. Jax: That's why like Loki, that's why I'm a little bit upset with Aaron or obsessed with Aaron Rodgers is the wrong word, but it's just like people are people are forgetting how how nice he really was because he's, you know, wasting his time with the Steelers and the Jets and yada yada. Like people people talking dirty I I and I I am people as well. People are talking dirty about Aaron Rodgers. But like, man, when he was in his prime, when he was in his bag, bro, it's top five quarterback ever. Like Greg: Even when he wasn't, Jax: Easily. Greg: even when he wasn't in his prime, they drafted Jordan Love and that nigga won an MVP the following season because he was pissed. Nigga got so mad. Jax: He got mad. He was like, What? and won MVP. Greg: They got so offended. Nigga delayed Jordan Love's career by an an additional two seasons because of that fucking MVP. I'm like, shit. Yeah, like he he's different. And I and like he's a type of nigga where it's just like, I'm glad he's in the AFC. And he's not even at his best. But it's just something about seeing that nigga in the playoffs where I'm like, Jax: Yeah. 'Cause he he all he he gonna he was gonna if he was in the NFC he would have something for the Cowboys. Every he would do it z cause this is what he is, bro. Greg: Like he would, bro, cause fucking Jordan Love did it. Jax: I hate the Packers. The Packers and Greg: I'm saying bro the Jax: Niners. Those are like they're not in the division, but those are also two of my. They're not I they're not my favorite. I just hate them, bro. They're just all because they always embarrass Dallas, bro. They always embarrass the Cowboys. I can't stand it. Greg: Which is cra. Which is crazy because I feel like there were like a lot more stronger gears with like the Seahawks in the 2010s, but those niggas never gave us issues when it was time for the playoffs. When it was wild card games, we we took care of business with them niggas. I don't know why if it's San Francisco or Green Bay, we just we just freeze because what the fuck? Jax: I hate it so much. Greg: Hey man, that man, I think about that shit all the time. Are there any are there any AFC? You don't f there was any AFC ops that you Jax: not really to be honest with you. I yeah, I didn't really have no like quote unquote bad relationships with any AFC players, if we're being completely honest. I mean, I didn't like Tom Brady, but it's Tom nobody liked Tom Brady. Greg: Yeah, I didn't I didn't like I didn't like Tom Brady until they forced me to respect that nigga. But and I think Jax: Yeah. I used to not like Kate Manning a lot either, but I just didn't like I don't know why though I just didn't like him. Greg: Fair. It trickled down the arch. Jax: No, I don't I don't dislike Arch, but it's just I don't think Arch is that good though. I think he's Daniel Jones. I think he's I think he's just gonna end Greg: Compliment, compliment, Jax: up being Daniel Jones. And I don't think that's I don't mean that in a good way or a bad way. I just mean that in a matter of fact way. Like he just seemed like Daniel Jones to me. Greg: A white man. Jax: He's an athletic white dude who got an arm sometimes. He does some stupid stuff. Like this January Jones, bro. Greg: a less athletic Daniel Jones. Respect that athlete. Jax: Yeah, yeah. Right about that. Greg: Respect respect that eighty two yard trip down. Jax: Like like that's some shit arts would do, bro. Greg: That eighty two yard walk down that turned into a trip up. honestly, I I've never had no real smoke with the Texans because I never gave a fuck. But when Texas fans would like talk too crazy, Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: I will say I I definitely was a huge fan of Aaron Foster in his heyday for sure. Jax: And if possible. Greg: I didn't want to talk cr I didn't want to talk too highly cause then niggas be like, my god. Shut up, nigga. All you all you Dana and fake ass niggas. I'm not trying to hear nothing y'all talking about right now. Fuck y'all. But Arian that that that Arian Foster, J J. Wyatt, Andre John Andre Johnson look trio. For sure. For sure. And and I and I appreciate the sonic slushies y'all niggas gave me for every win on Sundays. Jax: Ha ha. Greg: I appreciate that. As a non fan. But yeah, I think those are all my ops. And also comment Jax: Yeah. Greg: down below who who were y'all ops? Who were you who who are y'all ops? Jax: I would I would like to hear some of y'all favorite ops. I would, yeah. That'd be interesting. But Greg though, I think it I I do think it is that time. I do think it is that time. Greg: Absolutely. And for the third straight week, that button is not there. But say it in your mind. It is NFL. Jax: Ha ha. Greg: Pick All right. We'll get y'all we'll get y'all I'll have the total Jax: Tally and all that. Greg: record and tallies above the screen and post edit. Y'all see it right here? But let's go ahead and get into tonight's game that's already kicking off. The the Detroit Lions versus the Buffalo Bills. Jax already told me who he was gonna pick because he thought this Jax: Yeah. Greg: game was gonna be an afternoon game. Jax: I I saw something that said five thirty, but I guess like the coverage just started I just I g I think like the c like the pregame coverage started then. But I misread it. But yeah, I I chose I got I went with the Bills so. Greg: I mean I mean technically in Cali it kicked off at five thirty. Five fifteen. You know, I mean he wasn't all the way wrong. but I w I was gonna pick the Bills regardless. me personally. Damn, that's such a short turnaround for them niggas. But Jax: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause they just played. Greg: I mean I guess it's standard, but it's like damn. Like you you just went you just had like a a ban for band with CJ Stroud and then like four days later you you gotta go Jax: Well no that that Greg: Complete. Jax: build game was on Sunday. That builds game on Sunday. The Texans Bills game, not Sunday. Greg: That's still short. That's still short to me. But I mean I get it though. I get it for sure. But next, Sunday night. As I pull it up. Jax: It's the Colts at the Chiefs. Why are they the primetime game? Why is this the primetime game? I don't know about you want to see this shit. Greg: I guess they gotta give the coat something, maybe. Jax: They don't golly. Don't know if I'm gonna see this. I mean I'll watch it 'cause it's football. Greg: I mean Jonathan Jonathan Taylor, you know. Jax: Anywho, I'm I'm going with the Chiefs because seeing them just dismantle the Broncos, I didn't think they was gonna do that. So the Chiefs might be a little bit different this year, offensively at least. So I'm I'm gonna go with the Chiefs. Greg: who's a who's a quarterback? Is it is it Daniel Jones? Jax: Yeah, it's still Dana Jones. Greg: yeah, give me the codes. Goes. Jax: Okay. Okay. Greg: Absolutely. Absolutely. Shout out to Kenneth Walker though. I think it was hoopin. Jax: Nigga, crazy. And then Greg: That was that was great. Jax: the Monday night game is going to be the Giants at the Rams. respectfully, I feel like you guys all know how I feel. I can never, in good faith, pick the Giants, so I'm going with the Rams. Greg: And I'm going with the Giants. they ain't got Miles Garrett. And I don't know what Aaron Donald's gonna do. Who's stopping that run? Exactly. It is Jax: They don't know if he's they don't know if he's playing, actually. Yeah. Greg: who's stopping that run? I would have never thought I would say who was who was stopping these two white boys in the backfield. I never thought I would have said. Jax: Like who was stopping the dynamic duo of Jackson Dart and Cam Scatterball? I never thought that was gonna be a thing, but Greg: This hey, this hey, this is the real Snowtime Lakers, nigga. This is Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: the real Snowtime right here, nigga. The Snowtime Giants. Damn. That's crazy. But yeah, I got the Giants because the Rams is gonna have to prove it to that they're gonna that they're gonna bounce back. It's not Jax: That's fair. That's fair. Greg: it's not looking. It's not looking the greatest, nigga. I ain't gonna lie. For sure. Jax: All right. Greg: And I think that's That's all the primes. Okay. So Jax: That's all the yeah, that's all the prime time games. Greg: what is your what is your lock of the week? Jax: All right, my lock of the week. This hurts me to choose because I really do want to see Malik Willis do well, but I'm I'm taking the 49ers over the Dolphins. I like Malik Willis. I really want to see him do well, but the I seen that Dolphins. I was actually watching that game. I don't know why I did that to myself, but that shit was terrible. Greg: That was a choice. Shout out to Ash and Genty. Help my fantasy team. Jax: He he went stupid. But no, the Dolphins Greg: Crazy. Jax: look they look they're gonna be the worst team in the NFL this year. And I did not expect them to be that bad. But no, they were pissed poor, so I'm going with the Niners. Greg: They send they send in the go for failure, bro. Jax: Yeah. They want to get the number one pick so they can get Jeremiah Smith and get him a receiver. Greg: That's not how that works. You know that. Jax: Ha ha ha Yeah. Greg: my lock of the week. I ain't even gonna say respectfully. This shit don't even deserve respect. Give me buccaneers over the Browns. If they got Deshaun Watson out there, hey, wrap this shit up. I I need this shit to be a blowout, nigga. Where this gonna be at? this is in Tampa? Yeah. That chip gonna be activated. Them nig that nigga still hate Cleveland. Jax: yeah, I forgot about the accident. Yeah, Baker Baker might do him something dirty. Yikes. And speci if Yep. Yeah. Greg: That nigga still hate Clayton, nigga. god, he will. Especially after he had a loss against the Bengals. Yeah. He he's like, nah. Hey, did you see that clip? You saw that clip of that nigga? I think he like fumbled the ball. Hey, that nigga. Jax: I'll be bet yes. Greg: So I was like, who the fuck told this nigga he he was trying to move like Shady McCoy? Hey, and this is not his first time. Hey, this is not Baker's first time doing stupid ass shit like this. Like that nigga high step before hitting a juke. I remember that shit some years ago. Jax: Baker funny bro. That's why I fuck with Baker bro. Baker's funny. Greg: hell no. Stiff as hell for no reason. Ain't Jax: He's Greg: no way telling to do all that. All right, J. Jax: But it'd be funny when he'd be jugging you out and it worked. It'd be fun it's funny when it works. It's funny when it's Greg: Nah, that is. It'd be fire when he like evades a sack. Like, okay, like that looks normal. That nigga tried to do something in the open open field, main field is funny as fuck. Cause who told you to do that? Bitch, just go to the go out of bounds. Touch the bylaw, nigga. What the fuck? Jax: Mm. Greg: All right, Jax. What is your what is your upset? Jax: Alright, my upset of the week, give me the Vikings over the Bears. Cause yes, Kyler Murray still hurt. yeah, I know it'll probably be Carson Wentz, but the Vikings, they they put belt on the Packers, bro. And I think that defense, the Vikings defense is gonna be crazy. The Bears offense is also crazy, but we'll see what Brian Floor has got for him. So I think I'm gonna take the Vikings over the Bears. Greg: Bold as hell. Bears Jax: We'll see. Greg: Bears dropped fifty last week. I hope you're right, nigga. I hope. Jax: Me too, Renee. Me too. Greg: okay. Mm. Let me see. Who am I gonna upset? Who am I gonna upset? I already used my Cardinals, good luck. They're playing the Seahawks. That's not happening, brother. Can't do that. Jax: Ha ha. Greg: Can't do that. Jax: All watch this be the Marvin Harrison game. Greg: Great. I got him in one of my fantasy leagues. We'll figure it out. Jax: Ha ha Greg: you know what? I'm a mash I'm a mash something crazy. Jax: Okay. Greg: Gimme the Raiders. Raiders overcharges. I got an agenda to push. I got a agenda to push. I Jax: Ooh. Greg: got a fucking agenda to push. They're not good this year, bro. They're not fucking good. Jax: Hey, if the Raiders beat the Chargers, that's g they're going to go insane. And that's going to be hilarious. Greg: It's hey, it's a d it's a division game. So they play each other twice a year. I think they what is it? What are they playing? Jax: They're playing at Greg: they're playing they're playing in LA. LA don't LA Chargers don't have real fans. They don't have real fans. That's a mutual, that's a mutual fan. That's a mutual field. You know what I mean? Jax: LA don't have fans. So it's it's their home game for the Raiders. Yeah. Greg: That that's like that's like having that's like that's like the Clippers. Like ain't no real Clippers fans out here for real, for real. Especially now. The fuck? Jax: Yeah. Greg: Yeah, give me the Raiders. I was gonna I was gonna be egregious and pick the Titans, but I I I didn't have I didn't believe in that for real. I didn't have no real Jax: Fair. Greg: belief. But I do believe in them. They're Jax: I hope they win, but I don't think they will. Greg: not gonna win that shit. But nah, after seeing Ashton Genty, mind you, they did all that and Ashton Genty went crazy and Brock Bowers wasn't even playing yet. Be alright. Jax: Yeah. Greg: That's that's my that's my upside. Jax: Okay. Greg: And with that, I think it is that time. For hot takes of the week, Jax, what is your hot take? Jax: Alright, I already sort of teased it, slash previewed it earlier. But yeah, Saquon Barkley, overrated. I'm not impressed. Like, I don't I haven't said it's a hot tape for real, but I actually Greg: yeah. Jax: went back and looked at his stats. Me, I mean, mid, okay, mid's strong word. Mid is very strong word. I mean, let me chill on the mid. Let me chill on Greg: come on. Get this nigga out of here. Jax: the mid, but like I I look at his stats, I'm like, it's aight. let me pull him up. Fast because I I I truly thought he would have more, but it's gonna sound crazy to say, but he's a 2,000 yards merchant, bro. Like he got that one year, and everybody was like, my gosh, he's the greatest ever. Nah, bro. He had the 2,000 Greg: Stop it. Stop it, bro. Stop, bro. Jax: yards, and that's it, bro. He's been going downhill, which normally happens after you get 2,000, going downhill ever since 1140. That wasn't good. There wasn't a good rushing attack last year for real. Before the 2000, he only had 900 yards with the Giants. With the Giants, he didn't. He had. Greg: Come on, nigga, it's the giants. Jax: I don't give a fuck. Like, Greg: What the fuck? Jax: I don't care, nigga. If you really game chase, if you really like that, nigga. Like Derrick Hang was going crazy with the Titans, nigga. The Titans. Greg: That's not the giants, nigga. Jax: I would argue that the historically, I feel like the Giants have been better than the Titans. All right, like, yeah, no, the t the Giants are a better franchise than the Titans, I feel like. But I'm just looking at his number. Rookie year, 1300. Cool. Good for a rookie for real, for real. Second year, thousand yards. third and fourth year, hurt. Or actually, yeah, third and fourth year. He looked third Greg: It hurt. It was hurt. It was hurt. Jax: year he was hurt. Fourth year, he played 13 games, only had and he had six hundred yards, two touchdowns. Like, what are we talking about? Had a good year his was this one, two, three, four, good years, fifth year. A year after that, only nine hundred. I'm not impressed for real. Then he got the two thousand yard. I feel like once that two thousand hit, it just became revisionist history, bro. Like I'm not really moved by Saquon. I feel like they Greg: Revisionist is crazy. I wouldn't say revisionist. Jax: went back and they were like, he's always been one of the best ever. Like he like when Saquon was in his Because I'm beyond, I think he's out of his prime now. I think that 2000 was it. But like them years before, I would have took Nick Chubb over him. I would have took Derek Henry over him. I would have took CMC over him, Alvin Kamara over him, Zeke over him. There's plenty of running backs I would have taken over, say, Quan Barkley. And I ain't even mad to say that. Like, I think he's this sounds crazy, yes, but 2,000 yards merchant, bro. Like he had that one good year, and everybody went back and like retroactive, being like, he's always been one of the greatest. Nah, bro. I'm not moved. Greg: I don't I think I'm not saying that I disagree with what you're talking about in the sense of your statement, even though we I just disagree about the revisionist history. I just think niggas was always saying he was a top back, and you were like That nigga's not nice. That nigga's not like that for real. He he just be dancing in the backfield. Why do you niggas talk like but I'm saying like Jax: He does just be dancing in the back. Greg: I don't think niggas waited until 2,000 yards to be like, he o no, I feel like out the gate, niggas have always been saying that he was a a good back, a top back. You just wasn't buying it. You saw the 2000 and was just like, Jax: And they was wrong I shoot, I guess they was just wrong to say that. Greg: okay, maybe it was the Giants. And now that you're seeing a bad year last year, and we'll see how this year goes, Jax: Yeah, we'll see. Greg: we're like Like, let's this provisionist. Nah, nah. I just I just think niggas was I don't think anybody changed their stance on Saquon. I'm be honest with you. Jax: And then I'm looking at I looked at the the all-time stats and granted a lot some of these people play more years than him, but like Greg: Jesus. Jax: Saquon he played eight years so far. Zeke also played around that much eight years as well, more yards than him. who else played more yards than him? Willis McGay, like all these- I feel like these niggas are better than him, bro. Like I'm I don't know, bro. I don't think he's he's good, but like I think everybody needs to fucking chill, bro. He's good but like he not no all timer. He not no hall of famer. Like I'm Greg: He don't have the accolades to be on Hall of Famer, but at the same time Jax: I'm not moved, bro. I'm not. Gimme LaShawn McCoy, bro. Greg: Yes. Jax: Give me Darren Sproles. Fuck it. Okay, I'm that's a little much, but like that's a that was much. That was that was a little much. I I apologize. I I was tripping with Darren I was tripping with Darren Sproles. I was. But I'm not moved by Saquon, bro. I'm not moved. Greg: I think yeah. Jax: Now he's gonna run for three hundred yards with the Cowboys. But I still won't be moved. I still won't be moved, bro. Give me DeMarco Murray. Give me DeMarco Murray, bro. Exactly. Greg: You would never move. The market was nice. The market was nice. Yeah. I'll just have to respect it. you're not finna you not finna have me out here dig riding and defending somebody else from the NFC. So I'm just gonna have to let you I'm just gonna have to let you ride me. I can't do it. Jax: Fair. Fair enough. Greg: I can't do it, bro. Not on not not a f not in four K. Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: Give me somewhere where I can delete my message. He don't say voice notes. I'll send it to him. I really feel. my Jax: Yeah. Greg: hot take. AI We need to stop. I think we need we all need to stop doing this before shit gets too out of hand. From from from a art from a artistry, Jax: I hate it might already be too bad, man. Greg: from an artistry standpoint. I'm only speaking from an artistry standpoint. Cause at first I was gonna talk about Aaron Pierre and Lanarence. look, there's another podcast for that. Like I'll tell Jax: Ha ha. Greg: you, I'll tell you my thoughts about about how great of a show that is and Wooty Woo like that was my original hot tech, but I to pivot. Cause I'm still not over this archmanning shit, bro. I'm not, I'm not, I'm still not over this arch manning shit with this AI video. And what that video taught me was like, bro, like there might be a day where AI is replacing like real niggas in artistry to the point where, hey, if this one woman or if this one man Don't feel comfortable doing a scene or turning down something because this scene makes them feel uncomfortable, they can just make that scene without them. They can just make some shit. And this AI is pulling from something real. This AI is gonna turn it like this. They're pulling from. An an an actual person at some point. So we just it's gonna get to the point where we might start seeing some strange shit. We already seeing strange shit already. We're already Jax: I was like, we sh we already are shit. Greg: seeing shit. There's niggas out here trying to do AI porn. There's all this other stupid shit that's already out. But once it starts, I feel like once it gets too mainstream, it'll be just like the toothpaste back in a tube situation that we talk about with any and everything else, where it's like, Okay, like they use it for so much that it'll take the wrong nigga to like make a short film and it gets weird. And it's like, okay, like this is nah. So, and then and then it's the fact that we got niggas laughing about this shit already. We looking at shit that's clearly AI, and there are like younger generation niggas that's like cracking up and laughing at. Jax: It's like Greg: At shit that's like, yo, like, this not even real and you cracking up, like this not Man, no. Jax: Like there are a lot of AI videos like going on like comedic quote unquote AI videos going on on social media. And I'm like, I don't f I haven't found a single one of them funny for real. Like, I don't know, like Greg: Nor enter nor entertaining. Like it's just Jax: maybe it's me. I don't know. It's just not funny. Like the Holly Road shit, that's not funny. There was like I think there was another video of like Think it was like I know it was s it was somebody falling or it like clearly an AI thing, like they fell and like whole bunch of like stuff like fell out their pockets sometimes. Like and they was like, like this shit don't be funny. I don't get it. Like I just I don't get and honestly, I don't think I wanna get it, bro. Like I'm fine with not getting it. Not that thing, but Greg: I don't want to get it either. And something that's like too AI, it makes me uncomfortable to look at sometimes. I'd be like, this this this looks weird. I actually don't want to watch this at all. But it's just like it is it's becoming too normalized in certain things where we have to have regulations. I feel like we have to have regulations now. Just like how they have air traffic or whatever, there's like regulations of like certain drones can't be here or there's a certain height or flight or airway for helicopters and planes. We need that shit for AI now before it gets out of hand and now we're trying to make up rules on the fly like the N C double A. Jax: So I think that's what we're doing right now. Already trying to make AI AI rules on the fly. And I said, do not be worried. Greg: Like we gotta do like we gotta do it before somebody with a lot of money and a lot of pull starts throwing some AI bullshit on the Netflix or on some cinema or in the movies or whatever the case may be. Jax: I seen with on Netflix a different world, like you know, the OG one is on Netflix Greg: Yeah, I saw that too. I saw that too. Jax: and they said like they're like AI upskilling the videos and shit like that and like they like it was like removing Dwayne's glasses and I'm like this weird bro and like the posters had like the little AI writing on it. I'm just like, why we don't need to do this, bro? We we don't. It was fine how it was. I watched it originally how it was. It was fine. Greg: Yeah, we don't everything don't have to be four K. It doesn't have to be and Jax: Yeah. Greg: on top of that, it's a combination of that shit right there and the fact that we don't have physical media anymore. So they can always Jax: They can go back and change. Greg: update nothing is ever truly ours. If you buy two K, it's just on the system. They can take it Jax: Take that be right back. Mm-hmm. Greg: whenever, they can update it, whatever the case may be, whenever, however they want. You can't just have the base model game. I'm seeing and and it works both ways. So like good and bad. So like there's some good stuff where it's like, okay, like when a nigga die, or like whenever like an Aaron Hernandez thing happens, okay, yeah, we can have a an update where we just take the nigga out and we just keep pushing. so people are not doing weird shit on the game. So I get it. It's a twofold, but on the same time, it's like, okay, they could do the same thing by colluding. Moving Colin Kaepernick off the bitch or you what I all this other shit. It's just it it doesn't matter. It it goes both ways. So yeah. Stop it. Get some help. Somebody figure out a way to get this shit done before this administration ends, nigga. Preferably before twenty twenty eight. We need Jax: Preferred for twenty twenty seven shit. But we know Greg: It's not gonna happen that quick. I've already made my peace with that. It's not happening that quick. But if if we can get this shit post Olympics, that would be a dream come true. Cause please, bro, it it just I keep seeing worse and worse. my mama be falling for some of the dumbest shit and I just need something. Jax: Hey it actually if you post yourself in an AI piece talking about this is what I would look like in the eighties, do you know how stupid you look? Like every single person that's posted Greg: I'm glad my mama ain't do that. Jax: that huh? Greg: I'm glad my mama ain't do that shit. Jax: I've seen so many people say, this is the AI for this is what I look like. And they're like, you look stupid, you dumbass. Like, don't nobody care how you look in the 80s, nigga? Shut up. Greg: And and you and you chopped. And you ugly. You don't look good. You Jax: Right. Golly. Greg: didn't look good in the 2000s. You didn't look good in the 80s. And you don't look good now, okay? Jax: Yeah. We're in a fuck ass jerry curl in that tracks we're like, shut the fuck up, you pissing me off. This AI shit, bro. Greg: Mind you, you can buy these you can buy these items. Jax: Yeah. Greg: You can purchase these items and get it get it yourself. Jax: What I would look like in that you you would look the same. Your face up changed, nigga. Like, what are you doing? Greg: Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Especially especially if you if you if you was alive in the eighties Bitch, pull up a picture, nigga. What the Jax: If you was if we know what you look There's video evidence of what you look like in the eighties, nigga. Greg: fuck is you talking about? What the fuck going on? Jax: Lord Jesus. Greg: Hell no. Yeah, but that's that's that's that's my hot take. Jackson the last words. Jax: Amen. Don't be posting on stupid AI pictures of yourself, bro. Like Greg: That's fucking stupid. Jax: that shit actually really pisses me off when people do don't be doing Greg: Not the Jax: that shit. That's my last don't be doing that dumbass shit. Guys. Greg: No, that is. That's just bad. That's bad. as far as me, RIP, R.I.P. Sway. That was a UK rapper. And yeah, I know. You said and I said the same thing. Cause when Jax: No, I like who is I was I know who Sway is. Greg: Yeah, when I heard Sway, I was like, I know y'all ain't talking about I know it ain't the answer. You ain't got the answers. Yeah, I thought it Jax: Are you using a sway anymore? Greg: was Sway the morning. I was like, Stop my nigga swe Nigga I was fucked. Cause it was early in the morning when I saw it. I was like, bitch, what? And then I saw niggas repost like this UK, this UK rapper or whatever. I'm like, RP to him. I Jax: Okay, okay. Greg: don't even know what the fuck happened. But don't scare me like that, brother. I thought that was real deal sway in the morning. I don't say, nah, come on now. Too many niggas dying right now. Nah, I'm saying too many Jax: If it was anymore outfits, I focus for it. Greg: niggas dying at the same time. Y'all need to slow this shit down. Jax: Doch. Greg: And Wafik said it best. They kill they killing the wrong white people. They taking down the wrong white people right now. Those are while fix worry not mine. Jax: None get me started for Greg: We won't. That's why we're going to end this podcast before you say something controversial. With that being said, Jax: Ha ha Greg: we will catch y'all next week. Y'all be blessed.