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Unsolved: Allison Foy vanishes from NC bar, gets brutally stabbed to death · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Triumph Channel one thirty two. Alison jack tin Floyd disappeared
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, July six. It's another hot, humid summer in Wilmington,
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. All signs led to the likelihood that she
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Speaker 1: had left the area on her own a quarter. In
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Speaker 1: April two thousand and eight, a human skull was found
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Speaker 1: in a wooden area three miles from where she was
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Speaker 1: last seen, but Allison wasn't alone. It was soon discovered
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Speaker 1: that there were actually two. Her case is still an
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Speaker 1: unsolved thomas I process of elimination have eliminated all but
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Speaker 1: one potential suspect, a Port City cab driver who was
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Speaker 1: in the bar Allison disappeared from the case is just
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Speaker 1: kind of in a stalemate. Investigations are ongoing and there
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Speaker 1: is no statute of limitations for Martin. There is hope
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Speaker 1: that the case will be sold. I'm just really fearful
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Speaker 1: that we're not going to get justice for my sister.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've talked to so many crime victims, and
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Speaker 1: we all seem to agree on one thing, and it's
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Speaker 1: largely anecdotal. I don't have a statistic to prove it.
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Speaker 1: There's never been a scientific study. But everyone, every crime
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Speaker 1: victim I have ever spoken to, they know when they
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Speaker 1: get that call. They know immediately. I knew when I
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Speaker 1: was told to call my fiance's family and they picked
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Speaker 1: up the phone, I said the words is Keith gone.
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Speaker 1: I knew, I knew, and I don't know how I
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Speaker 1: knew you. In this case, a sister gets a phone
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Speaker 1: call from dad saying there's a problem Allison's gone. Did
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Speaker 1: she know? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us and with me that sister
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Speaker 1: Lisa Valentino, and we are talking about the disappearance of
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Speaker 1: her beautiful sister Alison. Lisa, thank you for being with me.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember when your dad called you? Oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's absolutely I was on a family vacation with my brother,
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Speaker 1: other brother, my brother and my other sister traveling back
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Speaker 1: from New Hampshire with our children, and my dad called
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Speaker 1: us and said, you know, there's a problem, just like
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Speaker 1: you said Alison in this and and immediately I knew
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Speaker 1: that she was no longer living. That was the feeling
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Speaker 1: that I had within my heart, within my gut um
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Speaker 1: but mute was to say, you know, we we got
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Speaker 1: our stuff together. We three of us trapped off our families,
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Speaker 1: hopped on a plane and immediately flew to Willington with
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Speaker 1: my dad. During that flight, I mean, I know you
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Speaker 1: had to drop your children off, you had to pack
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Speaker 1: a bag, you had to get it together and get gone.
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Speaker 1: How many of us have been in that situation and
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Speaker 1: in those moments, I remember I had flown to New
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Speaker 1: York to take the children. Ice skating a Rockefeller Center
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Speaker 1: and we just got there and I got them all
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Speaker 1: bathed and in their pj's, and my mom called and said,
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Speaker 1: they just put your dad on life support. And when
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Speaker 1: I was trying to repack everybody, and I remember hearing
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Speaker 1: somebody screaming, get dress, get dressed, or we have to go.
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Speaker 1: It was me when I look back on it, but
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Speaker 1: at the time it sounded like somebody else. And threw
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Speaker 1: everything back in the bags, and within twenty minutes we
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Speaker 1: were all dressed an assembled out on the sidewalk trying
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Speaker 1: to held a cab in the middle of the night.
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Speaker 1: And it's almost like a blur. Do you remember running
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Speaker 1: in and trying to get everything together, to get the
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Speaker 1: children straight and get your clothes and get out of there,
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Speaker 1: you know, if for for us it was a little
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Speaker 1: bit chipper. And it's funny that you said that though,
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Speaker 1: because he's eleven years seems like another lifetime ago. But
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Speaker 1: I do remember like it was yesterday, you know, being
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Speaker 1: in the car getting the phone call, still being hours
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Speaker 1: away from our destination, and all of us being in
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Speaker 1: sept the cars trying to contact one another, you know,
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Speaker 1: and actually we didn't even go home. We went to
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Speaker 1: my brother's house and he's his wife kept all of
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Speaker 1: our children along with my husband, and uh we hopped
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Speaker 1: on a plane to Philadelphia early the next morning. I mean,
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Speaker 1: so I can remember all of that and thinking at
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Speaker 1: the same time I knew something not good. I really
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Speaker 1: did believe she wasn't alive. But then, well, how do
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Speaker 1: I know that for sure? Same here? Same here? I
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Speaker 1: mean I knew, I knew Keith was dead, but I
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Speaker 1: didn't think about it. I just got trying to get
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Speaker 1: to him and with Daddy, with my dad, I just
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Speaker 1: kept thinking, Okay, don't be crazy. He's been sick before.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna work out. And Cheryl McCallum, director of the
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Speaker 1: Cold Case Institute, and my longtime friend, Cheryl, thank you
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Speaker 1: for the my mentor for my dad you sent me.
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Speaker 1: You know, as to me, it's like he's still here.
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Speaker 1: And I wonder to you, Lisa Valentino, when you were
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Speaker 1: on that flight and you were trying to get to
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Speaker 1: your dad when you first saw him, what did he
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Speaker 1: say to explain to me how you got off the
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Speaker 1: plane and you saw him, and what he said? You know,
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Speaker 1: that part is a little is a little foggy. I
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Speaker 1: just can see him shaking his heads like you often
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Speaker 1: did and just saying, I just can't believe it. It's
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Speaker 1: also unbelievable. I don't I don't understand, you know. And
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Speaker 1: you know what's weird, Lisa, it seems like like I
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Speaker 1: have my sister. She is a brainiac. You know, she
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Speaker 1: graduated at Wharton. They asked her to staying at her
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Speaker 1: pH d. She became one of the first women in
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Speaker 1: her department to be on tenure track. You know. My
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Speaker 1: brother was like the number one salesperson in the whole
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Speaker 1: country a couple of years in a row with his
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Speaker 1: pharmaceutical company. It's funny how people can do all sorts
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Speaker 1: of stellar things, like my mom was this is this
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Speaker 1: fantastic musician, and my dad worked at the railroad all
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Speaker 1: these years. But you seem to end up being defined. Bye, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's Alison's family. You remember what happened, that's that's that's
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Speaker 1: who you are now. And I've talked about that with
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Speaker 1: so many crimes. Is somehow that is what you and
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Speaker 1: your family are. What happened? Then you hit the ground,
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Speaker 1: and then what do you guys start doing? We hit
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Speaker 1: the ground and actually at the time that the current
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Speaker 1: investigator who was on the case, met us at the airport,
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Speaker 1: to us at the airport, drove us to uh the
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Speaker 1: police department, and then proceeded to bring us into his
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Speaker 1: office and have a conversation with the four of us,
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Speaker 1: UM about what happened. Tell me what happened? How did
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Speaker 1: Allison go missing? Well that kind of so this was
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Speaker 1: this is what happened. She UM and my sister Listen
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Speaker 1: was not without her issues and problems, but you know,
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Speaker 1: at her heart, she was a very she was a
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Speaker 1: very good person and most importantly she was a mother
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Speaker 1: of two young children at the time who were who
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Speaker 1: were her life. UM. And so they said to us,
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Speaker 1: we received the phone call from her husband that she
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Speaker 1: hasn't come home, UM and that uh, you know, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't know where where she is. And UM, the last
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Speaker 1: place we know she was seeing without a place called
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Speaker 1: Junction Pub and Billiards after she finished a shift at work.
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Speaker 1: Allison had just gotten a new job. She was assistant
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Speaker 1: manager of a holiday inn here in town, and she
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Speaker 1: supposedly had gone out to um celebrate after work with
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Speaker 1: a friend of hers. UM. They found her car at
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Speaker 1: the establishment, UH, I think a couple of days later,
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Speaker 1: exactly where it was. It was. You know what's interesting
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Speaker 1: another thing, Lisa hold on and I want to bring
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Speaker 1: Sherylyn on this one before I lose this thought, because
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Speaker 1: every sentence you're saying gives me another whole series of
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Speaker 1: investigatory thoughts. You know, Cheryl McCullum, director of the Cold
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Speaker 1: Case Institute. When people it's and you know what, I
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Speaker 1: guess it's just abbot. When people here she was at
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Speaker 1: a pub, they think, uh, you know, she was a
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Speaker 1: party girl. She was drunk, she was doing drugs. She
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Speaker 1: probably ran a car off the road. They'll find it.
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Speaker 1: It's this woman. And I always feel like I'm in
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Speaker 1: the position of defending the victim, um and and and
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Speaker 1: it goes across the board. I remember talking to Chucky
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Speaker 1: Mark's mom. He was shot riding his bicycle to the
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Speaker 1: seven eleven, and she's always had she feels she always
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Speaker 1: has to say he was a good boy. He was
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Speaker 1: not doing anything wrong. He was like twelve. Of course
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Speaker 1: he wasn't doing anything wrong. In this case, Alison worked.
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Speaker 1: She was working there at a brand new job at
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Speaker 1: the Junction Pub and billiards, and that is why she
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Speaker 1: was there. Cheryl, not as if she needs to be defended.
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. But I just want that clear
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Speaker 1: on the record, because for some reason, some people seem
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Speaker 1: to discount lives. Uh, their life is no less or
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Speaker 1: more valuable than anybody else's. It does not negate what
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Speaker 1: happened to her. Have you noticed that Cheryl Nancy? People
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Speaker 1: spend so much time investigating the victim, not the crime.
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Speaker 1: Alison leaves the Holiday Inn where she's an assistant manager,
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Speaker 1: and she's celebrating this new job with friends at the
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Speaker 1: Junction Pub not far down the road, and yeah, the
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Speaker 1: police are gonna be like, oh, well, she didn't make
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Speaker 1: it home. She's probably having an affair. They discount the
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Speaker 1: obvious her car still at the pub. She's never not
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Speaker 1: come home before. Her children mean everything to her. So
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Speaker 1: instead of putting everybody on this and trying to find
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Speaker 1: this young woman, they're pretty lacks of daysical about it.
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Speaker 1: So what did you learn? You know, Lisa, that she
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Speaker 1: worked that night till the end of her shift, You
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Speaker 1: know that she left when the pub was closing down.
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Speaker 1: Then what how up? And she steps out the door
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Speaker 1: into the night. Well, and this is where this is
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Speaker 1: where things get a little a little blurry. Because there
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Speaker 1: have been a couple of different theories. One is and
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Speaker 1: this is the one. We really believe that the friends
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Speaker 1: that she was with, who was exactly that just a
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Speaker 1: type of term fed onto she would, you know, speak
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Speaker 1: too often about different things going on our life, said
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Speaker 1: to her, I don't want it. He drives home. Let's
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Speaker 1: let's call you a cat, and he says that they
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Speaker 1: he motioned for the bartender. The bartender came over. He said,
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Speaker 1: let's get Alison a cat. She went, made a phone
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Speaker 1: call and a few moments later, and this is how
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Speaker 1: he describes some in walks, This big country husky guy says,
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Speaker 1: does anybody did anybody call a cab? Which is unusual
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Speaker 1: enough to begin with, Normally they don't walk into the bar.
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Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, we did, and Allison said goodnight
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Speaker 1: and walked out with this cab driver. Um, that's really
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Speaker 1: what we believe, what everybody believes. Some other people have said,
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Speaker 1: oh they saw her outside crying on the curb. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, she was talking to some other girls. But
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Speaker 1: we followed up all those those leads, and this really
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Speaker 1: seems to be the one, Um that is that is truthful.
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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, he was away. That's something
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Speaker 1: you've got to look for, Cheryl, when you have especially
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Speaker 1: and this is rare in cases like this that you
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Speaker 1: have a lot last sighting corroborated where somebody walking and
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Speaker 1: that really stuck out in their minds. The guy wants
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Speaker 1: and say says, hey, did anybody call a cab? That
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Speaker 1: would stick out in my mind because I've never had
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Speaker 1: a cab driver come in and say, hey, did anybody
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Speaker 1: call a cab? Oh? No, I'm out on the street
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Speaker 1: begging for a cab, right, And that's corroborated by several people, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: So I believe because of that, that is what happened.
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Speaker 1: Your focus at that moment should be on that cab driver. Period.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a beautiful young a married mother of
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Speaker 1: two little daughters, an accomplished dancer, a je I'm missed,
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Speaker 1: the only member of a very very tightly knit family
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Speaker 1: to have moved out of their hometown area and to
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. That day, she had called and she had
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Speaker 1: taught to her sister, Lisa Valentino, and then it wasn't
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Speaker 1: much longer that she got a call from her dad
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Speaker 1: to tell Lisa Allison was missing. So trying to reconstruct
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Speaker 1: the night that Alison Foy goes missing. That's where we
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Speaker 1: are now in our attempt to put it all back
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Speaker 1: together again with the hopes of solving this. I want
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Speaker 1: to go back to Cheryl McCullum, director of the Cold
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Speaker 1: Case Institute. All Right, so we've led up to the
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Speaker 1: moment that we learned Alison, this young mom of two
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Speaker 1: little girls, has disappeared. We know where she disappeared. What
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Speaker 1: more do we know? At the outsets share? What else
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Speaker 1: do we know about her disappear Right now? That's all
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Speaker 1: they know. Did the bartender call it for a cab?
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Speaker 1: Cab driver comes in, Alison walks out. That's it gone
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Speaker 1: in the night. Okay, where do we go from here?
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Speaker 1: That's the next question joining me is Alison's sister, Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for being with us, Lisa. What happens next?
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Speaker 1: So you're sitting there in the police officers office, he's
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Speaker 1: telling you she's missing. Then what do you do? Well?
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Speaker 1: I I have to be brutally honest. At the beginning
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Speaker 1: of this case, and it's since changed, law enforcement was
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Speaker 1: not as great as it has been in the past
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Speaker 1: few years. With a few detective changes. They basically told us, um, oh,
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Speaker 1: she'll turn up. And UM, you know, why don't you
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Speaker 1: just get a hotel room and you know, we'll let
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Speaker 1: you know if, if, if everything comes up. Make some flyers.
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Speaker 1: So here we are four of us. Has never been
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Speaker 1: to Wilmanton, North Carolina before, never been in a situa
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Speaker 1: station like this before, west on our own. So what
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Speaker 1: happens we make flyers. Were out in the baddest areas
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Speaker 1: of the town late at night searching for for my sister,
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Speaker 1: um until until a desk clerk at the hotel room
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Speaker 1: gives us a name and a number of someone in
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Speaker 1: town who she think can help us. And that's the
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Speaker 1: key center for missing persons and Monica Cason. And then
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Speaker 1: once they got involved, things started to move within law
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Speaker 1: enforcements and UM people started taking things a little bit
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Speaker 1: more seriously. Although I can't tell you until she was recovered,
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Speaker 1: how many times I have law enforcements say to me, oh,
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Speaker 1: she's out there, she'll turn up. She was spotted here,
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Speaker 1: she was spotted there. Um. Before we left town, we
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Speaker 1: hired a private investigator who continued to work on the case.
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Speaker 1: And actually it was through him and his radio show
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Speaker 1: locally that UM this suspect um there there became a
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Speaker 1: suspect in the case let me talk to you about them,
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Speaker 1: saying she'll turn up, she's been signed. Where where were
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Speaker 1: the signings? Carolina Beach on a bicycle at a hotel
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Speaker 1: room in Carolina Beach, downtown Wilmington's at two am in
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Speaker 1: the morning. I can remember we went to Wilmington as
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Speaker 1: all the bars uh let out at two am at
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Speaker 1: last call in downtown on the riverfront, handing our flyers
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Speaker 1: looking for my sister because again that was another place
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Speaker 1: that she had been seen. So it was all different
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Speaker 1: types of place. What do you make of those signings,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum um, I remember in so many cases that
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Speaker 1: there are signings, and sometimes they're even photos. I remember
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Speaker 1: when we were looking for one us. She was such
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Speaker 1: the cutest little girl, and there was a signing at
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Speaker 1: and you know, a play area within a mall in
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Speaker 1: one of those ball pits, and you know what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about, those ball pits. My children would just dive
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Speaker 1: into them and all I could see was a bunch
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Speaker 1: of journeys. But um, then I'd have to dive in
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Speaker 1: after them and drag him out. Any Way, the little
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Speaker 1: girl they thought was in a ball pit and the
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Speaker 1: person that she took the girl's picture and sent it in.
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Speaker 1: I remember putting it on the show because it looked
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Speaker 1: so much like the missing girl. It was not her,
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Speaker 1: and the girl's parents called in. The police didn't checked
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Speaker 1: it out, and it looked so much like her, it
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Speaker 1: was not her, and that happened. I think that happened
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Speaker 1: in the Kelly Anthony case. I mean it goes on
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Speaker 1: and on and on. People good hearted, people hearted truly
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Speaker 1: believe they see the person. So what do you make
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Speaker 1: of these sighting Sharyl? Again, common sense needs to play
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Speaker 1: a role here. Nancy Alison had no money, she had
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Speaker 1: not used a credit card. She had not showed up
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Speaker 1: anywhere like at a hospital for help or contacted her
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Speaker 1: husband or her family. So her being on a bicycle
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Speaker 1: makes no sense. She's not just riding around on a bicycle,
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Speaker 1: not contacted anybody. Um and the police instead of listening
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Speaker 1: to her siblings and her father are saying and she
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Speaker 1: would just show up. She's just taken a few days
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Speaker 1: off from being a parent. That's insane. That was not her,
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Speaker 1: m O. They didn't listen. You know what if anybody
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Speaker 1: tells you I'm taking a day off of me and
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Speaker 1: a parent. You need to start the search absolutely that
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Speaker 1: minute that no, pot, I'll start running up and down
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Speaker 1: the streets calling my name. Okay, So how did you
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Speaker 1: take that, Lisa Valentino For them to say, oh, she's
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Speaker 1: just taking a break, did that make sense to you? No,
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Speaker 1: and I and I absolutely told them that. I said
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Speaker 1: to them, I know my sister and if she was
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Speaker 1: leaving town or going to hang out somewhere or wherever
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Speaker 1: once she you know, she would have taken her children
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Speaker 1: with her and to be missing this long now, she
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Speaker 1: would have called one of us and said, I'm okay,
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Speaker 1: this is where I am. You know, don't worry about me,
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Speaker 1: because she was constantly in contact with us. And it's just,
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Speaker 1: you know, really it's very upsetting because you know, over
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Speaker 1: these years, that's one of the things I've discovered to
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Speaker 1: law enforcement needs to listen to the people who know
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Speaker 1: um then that's and that's the family. And we told
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Speaker 1: them over and over again. So it's very frustrated because
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Speaker 1: it made you feel like they're not looking. What did
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Speaker 1: you and your family do to try and find Allison.
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Speaker 1: We hit the street, we we hang up flyers, we
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Speaker 1: connect with the Missing Person Organization QUE. We were here
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Speaker 1: for ten days on the ground, enrollmented, we do news interviews,
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Speaker 1: um and anything we can just to get the word out,
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Speaker 1: and we try to convince law enforcement you know that
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Speaker 1: this is this is an issue. It's not going away.
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Speaker 1: And again we hire a private investigator before we leave
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Speaker 1: because we weren't confident that law enforcement was doing the
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Speaker 1: right thing. Can you imagine being there at the King
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Speaker 1: Coast or whatever it was at the time, trying to
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Speaker 1: print off flyers, trying to make your own flyers, um it,
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Speaker 1: just standing there wondering what happened to her as the
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Speaker 1: xerox machine goes and you don't. I've often thought of that,
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Speaker 1: what do you do? And I've told this story million times.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead and try to stop me. I remember standing
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Speaker 1: in Babies or Us. It's like a huge baby superstore,
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Speaker 1: looking because some mom at the at the pool had
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Speaker 1: put me on a guilt trip. She said she made
20:30
Speaker 1: her own organic sunscreen. And I'm like, oh, I'm a
20:36
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20:39
Speaker 1: find sunscreen that doesn't have chemicals in it. Right. So
20:46
Speaker 1: I'm standing there and John, Dave and Lucy have just
20:49
Speaker 1: they're walking fairly well, they're little, they're just above my knees,
20:54
Speaker 1: and they're right behind me. And of course what I'm
20:57
Speaker 1: looking for is on the very bottom row. Okay, So
21:00
Speaker 1: I'm all down on there trying to dig around, and
21:04
Speaker 1: then I can't find anything like that, and I stand
21:07
Speaker 1: up and I go, okay, come on, and Lucy takes
21:09
Speaker 1: my hand, and so John David and I turned around.
21:12
Speaker 1: He was gone that fast, and that feeling that went
21:18
Speaker 1: over me, I've never forgotten it. And you know what
21:23
Speaker 1: I did. I screened bloody murder. Somebody took my baby.
21:29
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as an ex cheerleader, I let
21:31
Speaker 1: it grip and honey, they locked those doors and all
21:35
Speaker 1: h g double Ale broke loose. Of course you know
21:37
Speaker 1: where he was running like a wild animal, up and
21:41
Speaker 1: down an aisle, like three aisles over with some something
21:45
Speaker 1: in his hand. I don't even know what. It's something
21:47
Speaker 1: he had grabbed off down. But that moment when you
21:50
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Can you even imagine if
21:55
Speaker 1: one of your two went missing? What what did you?
21:57
Speaker 1: Would be insane? It needs to hear that you've got
22:00
Speaker 1: a family that's hitting the streets in these bad areas
22:04
Speaker 1: there's this underbelly to crime, and law enforcement is also
22:08
Speaker 1: very bad about not going to the source. Well, you know,
22:13
Speaker 1: in the day, you and I would have gone in
22:15
Speaker 1: the cut in a heartbeat of Zone three or zone
22:18
Speaker 1: You're going to have to tell everybody what the cut is, Okay,
22:21
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't know our alternate language. Go ahead, sorry. Um,
22:26
Speaker 1: like a really bad street in the ghetto that you
22:29
Speaker 1: go in one way and you can't really come back out,
22:31
Speaker 1: you know, is that in the same way? You know,
22:32
Speaker 1: it's interesting, sure what I was prosecuted. It never failed.
22:36
Speaker 1: I would finally be tramping through some horrible area of
22:41
Speaker 1: town with my investigator Earnest either with me or I
22:44
Speaker 1: just finally just gave up with him fussing at me
22:47
Speaker 1: not to go to these places and gone on my own,
22:49
Speaker 1: and I would be tramping around and it never failed.
22:53
Speaker 1: It would always be in the cut, the cut through
22:56
Speaker 1: the short cut, That's what I'm saying. And it would
22:59
Speaker 1: be somewhere you don't want to go. And I can
23:02
Speaker 1: just imagine this family out there beating on the doors,
23:08
Speaker 1: and I remember Cheryl beating on the door and open
23:11
Speaker 1: it up and to be a crack house or you know,
23:15
Speaker 1: worse anyway, that that's what happens. Where did you guys go,
23:21
Speaker 1: Lisa Valentine though, in your search to find Alice, Well,
23:25
Speaker 1: believe it or not, we were. We were in those
23:28
Speaker 1: some of those areas and homes. And like I said,
23:31
Speaker 1: we became fortunate in that when we got other people involved,
23:35
Speaker 1: we had someone who knew what they were doing, and
23:37
Speaker 1: so when we were hitting those areas, it wasn't really us. So,
23:40
Speaker 1: I mean we went everywhere. We searched all over this town,
23:43
Speaker 1: which is not very big, but it's not very small,
23:46
Speaker 1: and from downtown at the riverfront, at bars at two am,
23:51
Speaker 1: to the worst neighborhoods to uh homeless shelters, um, you know,
23:58
Speaker 1: everywhere that you can't imagine trying to get some answers,
24:05
Speaker 1: um to these questions. So all along, what were police
24:08
Speaker 1: telling you? Were they still convinced she had just taken
24:12
Speaker 1: the powder and left? Were they starting to look at
24:15
Speaker 1: the possibility of abduction or homicide? Homicide never came up
24:19
Speaker 1: on our first trip down here. Um. Subsequently, after we
24:23
Speaker 1: left the first time, I in turn kind of became
24:25
Speaker 1: the family's folkesmen and traveled back and forth quite often.
24:29
Speaker 1: Uh well, Uh, the detective of the investigator switched on
24:33
Speaker 1: the case almost immediately because they went on vacation, which
24:36
Speaker 1: was good because we didn't even have a homicide detective
24:38
Speaker 1: on the case. Originally we had embezzlement and fraud investigators
24:43
Speaker 1: on a missing person as they didn't believe that there
24:48
Speaker 1: was foul play or that she was missing. I mean,
24:51
Speaker 1: I'm laughing now, but it's it's extremely sad. It's just incredulous.
24:56
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, I couldn't believe it. So we got
24:59
Speaker 1: a new detective on case. He was a homicide detective,
25:02
Speaker 1: but he actually was not much better. Um, he really
25:05
Speaker 1: didn't believe that she was missing either. He thought she
25:08
Speaker 1: had left of her own course. And Guys, again, Cheryl,
25:12
Speaker 1: I do not want to be in the position of
25:14
Speaker 1: trashing the cops. And I'll tell you why. Some of
25:16
Speaker 1: the most decent and honest people I have ever known
25:20
Speaker 1: and the most hardworking have been police officers. Question and
25:26
Speaker 1: you know they there are some bad ones. I know that,
25:29
Speaker 1: and they make all of them look bad. But that's
25:32
Speaker 1: simply not true. I have seen them out beating the
25:35
Speaker 1: streets right beside me. I remember working cases for months
25:40
Speaker 1: on end. We would go out every single day in
25:43
Speaker 1: the rain, in the cold, looking in flop houses and
25:47
Speaker 1: brothels and doped ins, you name it, trying to find witnesses,
25:52
Speaker 1: trying to find victims, working through the night, having going
25:56
Speaker 1: out and having to arrest witnesses that we're afraid to
25:59
Speaker 1: come the core, you name it. So cops in my
26:03
Speaker 1: mind are good? Are there bad cops? Yes? Are there
26:06
Speaker 1: cops out of their league? They don't have the training.
26:09
Speaker 1: Like here you've got an embezzlement cops trying to find
26:11
Speaker 1: a missing person. But I bet you, I I guarantee it.
26:14
Speaker 1: They tried right. And I do want to say I
26:18
Speaker 1: just I just do you want to say that the
26:20
Speaker 1: investigator who has been on this case for the longest
26:22
Speaker 1: amount of time, um, and who has really been awesome?
26:27
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy who's been there for the longest
26:30
Speaker 1: amount of time has been great and he he has
26:32
Speaker 1: done his job. And so I just things have changed
26:36
Speaker 1: in the Woman Can Police Department over these eleven years
26:38
Speaker 1: that this case has been there. So so what were
26:41
Speaker 1: they tell They were still sticking with the idea that
26:43
Speaker 1: she had just disappeared? What about it? Cheryl? Oh, Yeah,
26:46
Speaker 1: that's all they're thinking. And Nancy, I agree with you.
26:49
Speaker 1: I mean, they're the fault of the earth people, but
26:51
Speaker 1: they are human and sometimes once they make their mind up,
26:56
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to get a police officer to think
26:58
Speaker 1: differently again. They thought she ran off, they thought she
27:02
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28:22
Speaker 1: now where does the case stand right now? What do
28:25
Speaker 1: we know at this moment about what happened to Alison?
28:30
Speaker 1: With me Allison's sister, Lisa Valentino. Lisa, do you recall
28:35
Speaker 1: learning that your sister's remains have been found? Absolutely? Well, Actually,
28:43
Speaker 1: I got a phone call from the people that I've
28:46
Speaker 1: been working with down here and saying you're gonna get
28:48
Speaker 1: a call tomorrow from law enforcement. It's breaking all over
28:51
Speaker 1: down here that remains have been found, and I'm I
28:54
Speaker 1: want to just warn you that you know, we believe
28:56
Speaker 1: it's your sister. And I just I remember I was
29:00
Speaker 1: lying in bed, it was eleven o'clock at night, and
29:02
Speaker 1: I just was uh in shock. On the one hand, um,
29:07
Speaker 1: I was finally grateful to have some answers as to
29:10
Speaker 1: where Alison was, even though I really knew in my
29:13
Speaker 1: heart where she was. But on the other hand, I,
29:16
Speaker 1: I just you know, tremendous sadness, and just you know,
29:20
Speaker 1: I I had no words, I had no words, and UM,
29:25
Speaker 1: sure enough, the next day we do get a phone call. However,
29:28
Speaker 1: they couldn't identify that it was definitely my sister. UM.
29:32
Speaker 1: That that process took from April to September because we
29:36
Speaker 1: had to have her confirmed through d n a UM
29:39
Speaker 1: as we had no dental records, couldn't find current ventil
29:42
Speaker 1: or any type of vential records. UM. But I knew too.
29:46
Speaker 1: They sent me pictures of jewelry that was found on
29:48
Speaker 1: the body, and I knew that the jewelry was my sisters.
29:50
Speaker 1: I knew it was her. UM. What was the jewelry?
29:54
Speaker 1: M A ring and a necklace UM of hers that
30:00
Speaker 1: was founded? What was so distinctive about it? What was
30:03
Speaker 1: distinctive that made you know it was her? I had
30:06
Speaker 1: just seen Alison prior to her disappearance, and I just
30:10
Speaker 1: I know that ring and the necklace that she had on.
30:12
Speaker 1: I just knew they were hers because I had I
30:14
Speaker 1: had seen them on her. UM. I had seen them
30:18
Speaker 1: on her previously when she had come to my house
30:21
Speaker 1: too for a visit, which was the last time I
30:23
Speaker 1: had seen her, so I knew it was her. But
30:27
Speaker 1: again there again too. I gotta tell you, this crazy
30:29
Speaker 1: thing that happens is the whole while, even when I
30:32
Speaker 1: knew it was her and we're reading for confirmation of Vienna,
30:35
Speaker 1: there's still that little incretin maybe they're wrong, maybe they're wrong,
30:39
Speaker 1: you know, And then you get the call you wanted
30:43
Speaker 1: to believe. You know. I did the same thing in
30:46
Speaker 1: my head. I was making up all sorts of reasons
30:49
Speaker 1: why Keith's family was calling me, and I almost convinced
30:53
Speaker 1: myself by the time I could get back to the
30:55
Speaker 1: phone that there had been a car crash and he
30:58
Speaker 1: was alive and if I could hurry, I could get
31:00
Speaker 1: to and fix it. And it wasn't until I saw
31:03
Speaker 1: it was my pastor actually uh that nobody was home,
31:07
Speaker 1: And I saw a car at the church and pulled
31:09
Speaker 1: in to use the phone that was before cell phones,
31:12
Speaker 1: and ran in. He happened to be there, and he called.
31:15
Speaker 1: I was on the other side of his desk and
31:18
Speaker 1: I read upside down Bernstein's funeral home. And it wasn't
31:22
Speaker 1: until he got off the phone that I knew Keith
31:25
Speaker 1: had been shot dead. So you try to tell yourself.
31:28
Speaker 1: Maybe this maybe that when did you come to the
31:31
Speaker 1: realization she had been kidnapped and murdered. I think it
31:35
Speaker 1: all finally set in when we got the definite d
31:38
Speaker 1: NA back in September of that year. Um. For me,
31:43
Speaker 1: that phone call is I had all of this emotion
31:46
Speaker 1: and that's when it was finally all released. Um. And
31:50
Speaker 1: and that's when it really when it really hit me
31:53
Speaker 1: that this was it. This, this had happened, and she
31:57
Speaker 1: was no longer here and she met a brutally violent
32:00
Speaker 1: unto her wife, but she really did not deserve share all.
32:07
Speaker 1: Weigh in. Tell me about the discovery of Alison Foy's
32:11
Speaker 1: body and what does it mean for insically, Well, she
32:14
Speaker 1: was stabbed over forty times, Nancy in the front and
32:18
Speaker 1: the back of her chest and her back. Um. The
32:22
Speaker 1: disposal site was off Carolina Beach Road, so it's off
32:26
Speaker 1: kind of a main thoroughfare. But it's in this little COVID,
32:30
Speaker 1: this little wooded area, and it was in the open.
32:33
Speaker 1: She hadn't been buried or anything like that, which is
32:35
Speaker 1: critical to me. Um. And why why do you say that,
32:40
Speaker 1: I think the same thing. Why is it very important
32:43
Speaker 1: her body was not built because again she's found with
32:47
Speaker 1: another person. So you've got two victims in the exact
32:51
Speaker 1: same area feet apart, and that the fact they weren't
32:54
Speaker 1: buried but they have been put there um a year apart,
32:59
Speaker 1: tells me that this killer is not only very familiar
33:02
Speaker 1: with that area, he's very comfortable in that area, meaning
33:06
Speaker 1: he probably revisits often and somehow he's able to do
33:11
Speaker 1: it unseen, which tells you another thing about him. He
33:15
Speaker 1: can go around town and nobody focuses on him for
33:18
Speaker 1: some reason. So for example, you know, you see a
33:22
Speaker 1: mail carrier truck, You see it, but you don't really
33:24
Speaker 1: see it because you're used to seeing them. You can
33:26
Speaker 1: dismiss that. You can dismiss FedEx or a piece of
33:30
Speaker 1: delivery guy or a cable company truck because you just whatever.
33:34
Speaker 1: So the primary suspect drives a taxicab, so again, he
33:39
Speaker 1: can part different places. He can basically hide in plain sight.
33:44
Speaker 1: So those things are connected to me, they're obvious to
33:46
Speaker 1: me in that regard. For over two years, Lisa Valentino
33:51
Speaker 1: suspected her sister was dead and ask friends and strangers,
33:56
Speaker 1: please don't give up trying to learn what happened to
33:59
Speaker 1: my sister. Her then she learns DNA testing confirms her sister,
34:05
Speaker 1: Alison Foy, just thirty four years old, is one of
34:09
Speaker 1: two women whose bones were found in the woods off
34:14
Speaker 1: Carolina Beach Road. What do you know about that area,
34:19
Speaker 1: Lisa Valentino, Carolina Beach Road? Is it um far? Is
34:24
Speaker 1: it remote? Is it heavily wooded? Is it near a
34:27
Speaker 1: trash dunk? What is actually what we have discovered about
34:31
Speaker 1: the area was used as a kind of cut through area,
34:35
Speaker 1: um a lot and also as a sex area at
34:39
Speaker 1: the crime scene. There were dozens and dozens of condoms
34:42
Speaker 1: and it was a place that people would go to
34:46
Speaker 1: have sex. Um there there was a one restaurant. I
34:50
Speaker 1: wonder if they took I wonder if they took the condoms.
34:54
Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum. Just in the remote possibility that not that
34:59
Speaker 1: I think I kill slash rapist is going to use
35:02
Speaker 1: the condom, but just in case, you never never right, No,
35:07
Speaker 1: But Nancy, I had a chance to walk that promising
35:10
Speaker 1: with Lisa Valentino. Tell me, and it's amazing to me
35:13
Speaker 1: the track and the debris that is still there. And
35:16
Speaker 1: I'm like you, you know, you might want to go back,
35:18
Speaker 1: and you know, scavenge again every now and then, Well
35:21
Speaker 1: didn't they find she was wearing a pink sleeveless top.
35:24
Speaker 1: Didn't they find that there? Yeah? Well absolutely not. Not
35:29
Speaker 1: only did they find that's my I forgot how many
35:33
Speaker 1: months later was actually six weeks. Six weeks later, I
35:37
Speaker 1: went back to visit the site, even though it wasn't
35:40
Speaker 1: confirmed that that was my sister, but just because I
35:43
Speaker 1: felt I had to be there and see it and
35:45
Speaker 1: the problem. Entering the site, there were more, there were bones, sounds.
35:49
Speaker 1: I was with my friend that he's like, what's this crime?
35:52
Speaker 1: Seem how to come back? And they ended up being
35:54
Speaker 1: more remains of my sister six weeks initially after she
35:57
Speaker 1: was already recovered. Okay, that is very upsetting to me, Cheryl,
36:02
Speaker 1: that like they was placed there has to come and
36:06
Speaker 1: find her sister's bones. That is that's bad for a
36:11
Speaker 1: civilian to come in unearthed bones. Where were the bones,
36:16
Speaker 1: Lisa Valentino, That's bad. It's almost like they were never
36:21
Speaker 1: like it was almost like somebody knew I was in
36:24
Speaker 1: town how because often the press would you know, the
36:27
Speaker 1: media would say I was coming back and we were
36:30
Speaker 1: meeting press actually to do an interview and we had
36:33
Speaker 1: gotten there before then, and they were just laying on
36:37
Speaker 1: top of leaves and pine um needles as if someone
36:41
Speaker 1: had placed them there almost like that is scary. That
36:46
Speaker 1: is very scary that either a the crime scene text
36:51
Speaker 1: didn't find it from the Medical Examiner's office as well,
36:53
Speaker 1: or be someone had placed that there. Isn't this behind
36:58
Speaker 1: a Mexican restaurant was closed. There's like a narrow strip
37:02
Speaker 1: of woods behind the Meskin restaurant. Uh to describe the
37:06
Speaker 1: scene a little bit more, Cheryl McCollum, Nancy, it's right
37:10
Speaker 1: off the road. So here you have this Mexican restaurant.
37:13
Speaker 1: It's got like a driveway that you pull in. You
37:16
Speaker 1: can park right there, and there's a patch of graph
37:18
Speaker 1: that you can easily chip a golf ball across. It's
37:21
Speaker 1: not far and you then you in this little wooded
37:24
Speaker 1: line of trees. It's not a huge wooded area, but
37:27
Speaker 1: it's it's enough trees to give cover. And then there's
37:31
Speaker 1: this little divid there's a COVID there and that's where
37:34
Speaker 1: the bodies were. Um. But I'll tell you something that
37:36
Speaker 1: was fascinating to me when we were at the crime scene.
37:39
Speaker 1: I got Lisa to take me to the pub. I
37:42
Speaker 1: mean it's right there. I mean it's three and a
37:44
Speaker 1: half miles. And then from the crime scene to where
37:47
Speaker 1: the main suspect lived. This is something that stuck out.
37:51
Speaker 1: There's a cell phone tower right at the crime scene,
37:55
Speaker 1: the body disposal site. As she's driving me to the
37:58
Speaker 1: main suspects home. Every now and then I look up,
38:01
Speaker 1: I can still see that tower. I can still see it.
38:04
Speaker 1: I can still see it from his driveway. As the
38:07
Speaker 1: crow flies, you can see that tower. So again, to me,
38:12
Speaker 1: if somebody wanted to revisit, often straight out of their
38:15
Speaker 1: backyard is a good way to do it, because at
38:17
Speaker 1: this site you had no posing of victims, You had
38:20
Speaker 1: no staging of the victims. That was no ritual. This
38:23
Speaker 1: was literally where they were placed. He appears to me
38:28
Speaker 1: to be like a hunter type killer um opportunistic in
38:32
Speaker 1: a way, like he's gonna use his cab. Once they
38:35
Speaker 1: get in the cab, he's in control. Now. It's my
38:41
Speaker 1: understanding also that a search then ensued and at once
38:47
Speaker 1: her bones were identified. Uh. And that was several months later.
38:51
Speaker 1: About five months later, a search goes down of a
38:55
Speaker 1: man that had been accused of raping a prostitute, is
38:59
Speaker 1: that at Cheryl? Correct? What happened? Well, the third victim
39:06
Speaker 1: now comes forward, and you know they're telling this story
39:11
Speaker 1: that he took me here to this restaurant, he beat me.
39:14
Speaker 1: Um somehow she's able to escate him, and it becomes
39:18
Speaker 1: the primary suspect and these other two murders, and again
39:24
Speaker 1: he takes why why why did he become a suspect?
39:27
Speaker 1: He gets another woman, he beats her, he assaults her.
39:30
Speaker 1: How did he then get tied into Alison? Took her
39:34
Speaker 1: to the same place, the same Mexican restaurant, the same area,
39:38
Speaker 1: same cab, same time of day. How how is he
39:42
Speaker 1: a legitimate cab driver? He legitimate cab driver, but he
39:47
Speaker 1: does a twist. Instead of using the cab company phone number,
39:52
Speaker 1: he uses his private cell phone number. And so what
39:55
Speaker 1: law enforce have found? Afterwards? They interviewed a lot of
39:58
Speaker 1: the prostitutes in town. They all knew we and they said, yeah,
40:02
Speaker 1: we would all you know, call him on his cell phone.
40:04
Speaker 1: He would come pick us up and if we didn't
40:06
Speaker 1: have money for a ride, he would give us a
40:08
Speaker 1: ride in exchange for a sexual favor. So they would,
40:11
Speaker 1: But how well, I don't understand when Alan, when Alison
40:14
Speaker 1: calls a cab. How did she didn't call somebody's private
40:17
Speaker 1: cell number, did she? And this guy walks in and says,
40:20
Speaker 1: who asked for a cab? Right the bar if I may,
40:27
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The bar all knew him, and what they
40:30
Speaker 1: would do down here is and he was this suspect
40:34
Speaker 1: was actually off beauty. And this is how cab drivers
40:37
Speaker 1: down here at the time would make extra money. They
40:39
Speaker 1: called his private cell phone and said there's a fair here,
40:43
Speaker 1: and he would come and pick them up there. Their
40:46
Speaker 1: taxis at the time didn't even go back to the
40:48
Speaker 1: company's when they're done driving. They keep them at their home.
40:53
Speaker 1: So that is how it happened that a part of
40:56
Speaker 1: his m O nancy. It's totally on the books. The
40:59
Speaker 1: cab company could in tail law enforcement when he picked
41:01
Speaker 1: up a fair where he dropped off a fair because
41:04
Speaker 1: they didn't know, he didn't tell them he could do
41:06
Speaker 1: it at all on his own. So tell me this
41:10
Speaker 1: the one woman who lived to tell the tale. After
41:14
Speaker 1: he takes her too, I guess behind is the Mexican
41:17
Speaker 1: restaurant closed? I understood it was shuddered. Is it working again?
41:23
Speaker 1: Still closed? So he takes her back to this burial ground,
41:27
Speaker 1: so to speak, as she manages to get away. Correct
41:30
Speaker 1: she actually, I think I think what happened was and
41:34
Speaker 1: and was that he had pulled in to get a
41:37
Speaker 1: soda somewhere and she was duct tape. And I think
41:40
Speaker 1: that's what happened. Somehow did you say, did you say
41:43
Speaker 1: duct tape? His duck? Paperhands? Where duct tape? She manages
41:49
Speaker 1: to kick and somehow get out of the van and
41:52
Speaker 1: run across the street, and someone calls law enforcement and
41:55
Speaker 1: that and and they arrest him, and um, you know,
41:59
Speaker 1: they speak with her. But unfortunately what happens is at
42:01
Speaker 1: the time this woman um who was living this slafe,
42:06
Speaker 1: was frightened and had been doing drugs. And she never
42:08
Speaker 1: shows up for her quartet. And so we are talking
42:13
Speaker 1: about I'm gonna go ahead and put his name out there.
42:16
Speaker 1: It's Timothy ian One, a former Ports City cab driver.
42:21
Speaker 1: That's who we're talking about. So because she had been
42:24
Speaker 1: using drugs, she didn't want to come to court. What
42:27
Speaker 1: happened then, Cheryl, he took a plea and it was
42:29
Speaker 1: reduced to almost nothing. But again, now you've got not
42:33
Speaker 1: just a parallel investigation, but you mean a plea for
42:37
Speaker 1: the molestation or the assault on the woman who had
42:41
Speaker 1: been duckt taped, but because she used drugs, didn't come
42:44
Speaker 1: to create. And I believe the actual plea was for
42:46
Speaker 1: like having sex in public or something. It was nothing originally, Okay,
42:52
Speaker 1: So then what you had this parallel case going on
42:54
Speaker 1: with Alison and Angela, the two victims found in the
42:58
Speaker 1: wooded area, But now you have a third victim. So
43:01
Speaker 1: by any accounts, Nancy, you're talking about a serial killer,
43:05
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about because he which means they're
43:08
Speaker 1: likely other victims. That tell me what you know about
43:12
Speaker 1: the other victim, Cheryl Angela. Well, Angela was also a
43:16
Speaker 1: prostitute at the time. Um, she was living you know,
43:19
Speaker 1: that lifestyle as well. She may there's some belief that
43:23
Speaker 1: she may have also been familiar with Timothy Ione and
43:28
Speaker 1: you know, may have Willie got in the car with
43:29
Speaker 1: him for a ride before he also assaulted and murdered her.
43:33
Speaker 1: So again there's these these you know, victims that didn't
43:37
Speaker 1: get the attention that possibly they should have. Alison did,
43:42
Speaker 1: and that's the great news. Her family was there. She didn't.
43:46
Speaker 1: Where does it stand now, Cheryl, It's it's still open
43:49
Speaker 1: being investigated Nancy. We're trying to get the d A
43:53
Speaker 1: to take this case to the grand jury. That's our
43:56
Speaker 1: number one request at this time. He's got an enough
44:00
Speaker 1: Can I ask you what if anything actually links him
44:05
Speaker 1: other than the third witness who did not come to
44:07
Speaker 1: court to these two women. Can anybody in the bar
44:11
Speaker 1: identify him as coming in saying who needs a cab?
44:15
Speaker 1: Can anybody say I called a cell number to come
44:18
Speaker 1: pick her up? Can do we have any witness like that? Well?
44:24
Speaker 1: We do, we do. We don't have someone for sure
44:27
Speaker 1: who could say with him. There's been sketches done. There
44:29
Speaker 1: have been other people have come forward and said they
44:32
Speaker 1: saw a cad pulled up in the woods um with
44:35
Speaker 1: parts one night. I mean, there's a ton if I
44:38
Speaker 1: if I could just say this law enforcement believe this
44:43
Speaker 1: is the guy. I think everybody here believes this is
44:47
Speaker 1: the guy. And there's so much circumstantial evidence. But unfortunately
44:51
Speaker 1: there's no DNA evidence blinking him uh to the scene.
44:57
Speaker 1: And I I know in my heart was and it happened?
45:00
Speaker 1: Is this is it? I've basically been told. Unless short
45:03
Speaker 1: of a miracle or a confession or anything else, there's
45:07
Speaker 1: no you know, this is where this is where it
45:10
Speaker 1: kind of ends. Even with a new witness over the
45:13
Speaker 1: last year, who was another camp driver who finally came
45:15
Speaker 1: forward and said I saw him at the bar. So yes,
45:19
Speaker 1: do you have that? There was a new witness who
45:21
Speaker 1: stepped forward with more information. But that's not enough either.
45:25
Speaker 1: That's not enough. We need your help. We need your
45:28
Speaker 1: help to solve the murder of Alison Foy, along with
45:35
Speaker 1: we don't know how many others. The tip line zero
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