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NBA Talk/Predictions, Manchester City Scandal & More #157 · The Grounded Show

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  Speaker 1: Check check let's get that sound check i'm recording already
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  Speaker 1: though yeah yeah we good yep hey we got the
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  Speaker 1: settings good oh yeah like the third week in a
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  Speaker 1: row we've cut it the same so now we can
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  Speaker 1: just turn it on it's.
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  Speaker 2: Ready to go because usually yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Usually we should be trying we trying it every which
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  Speaker 3: way every which way hey yo but what it do
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  Speaker 3: man we're back again grounding show episode 137 and we
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  Speaker 3: won 57 i was gonna say 157 what am i saying.
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  Speaker 2: Dog 200 show coming soon. We got to figure out
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to do for that.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, man, that's going to coincide with a nice groove.
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  Speaker 3: We're already in a nice groove with the events, but
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  Speaker 3: we're really going to be in our groove by then.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is when you posted today about
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  Speaker 2: the R & B joint in a couple weeks, and
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  Speaker 2: you said our seventh month doing that. And I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: seven months?
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  Speaker 3: Crazy, bro. When I opened the file for the flyers,
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  Speaker 3: That's when I seen that, because I have them separated
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  Speaker 3: by months, and I'm like, wow, bro. I had the
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  Speaker 3: same reaction, like, already? You know what I'm saying? Like,
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  Speaker 3: we're already going on, like, more than... Like, almost a year, and...
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  Speaker 3: Latin night was fire. Latin night was fire. Yo, that
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  Speaker 3: was a funny one, man, because it was supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be a real bad weather day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was shaky. I was shaky the whole day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, what's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: No, but I'm not going front. The forecast was bad, bro.
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  Speaker 3: The forecast was real bad. We really... I was expecting low-key.
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  Speaker 3: It might have even had to get canceled or something.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I was putting on a
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  Speaker 3: brave face.
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  Speaker 2: There was people in our comments like, oh, the rain
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  Speaker 2: looks crazy. Are you going to do this next week?
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  Speaker 3: I was like, now we out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of our night.
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  Speaker 3: Facts. But it ended up being one of the better nights.
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  Speaker 3: That was crazy, bro. The weather was perfect. It felt
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  Speaker 3: nice and breezy the whole night. It was a vibe, man.
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  Speaker 3: There was plenty of people there.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody was dancing, having a good time. It was a
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  Speaker 2: good event.
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  Speaker 3: Those events been hitting, man. We got a cool group
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  Speaker 3: of people that be pulling up, like a dope cast
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  Speaker 3: of regulars that be out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to shout y'all out, but we're going
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  Speaker 2: to put everybody on blast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, facts. They know who they are.
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  Speaker 2: Who represent us and hold us down.
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  Speaker 3: As we start doing these events, like the Halloween stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and we just get more like, you know, in tune
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  Speaker 3: with the people, like we're definitely going to keep that
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  Speaker 3: community building going, man. Cause it's just been, it's been
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  Speaker 3: a dope experience, man. It's been super dope. And I've never, um,
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  Speaker 3: like I've promoted different stuff and events and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: But like, this is the one that I'm like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I actually enjoy this. Like, and it just works. It's
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  Speaker 3: so seamless. Like it, I feel like everything always works
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  Speaker 3: like that when you're like in line with what you
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  Speaker 3: need to be doing. You know what I mean? Like
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  Speaker 3: when you feel that resistance, that's when you know, like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, this, I'm trying to fit something where it
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  Speaker 3: don't go. So, like, I can't be doing this. Our
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  Speaker 3: only enemy is literally the weather. Yeah, facts. But, hey, man,
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  Speaker 3: we about to hit those. We always talk about it,
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  Speaker 3: but we about to hit them good months. Them good
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  Speaker 3: weather months, man. I'm excited for it.
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  Speaker 2: And like he said, October 29th, the Thursday before Halloween,
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  Speaker 2: R & B night, as usual. But it's Halloween edition now. So,
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  Speaker 2: costumes are welcome. If y'all want to come, I might
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  Speaker 2: come dressed up. You got to come dressed.
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  Speaker 3: Up, dog.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be DJing with no spirit, dog. I might
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  Speaker 2: come dressed up.
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  Speaker 3: You got to have an element at least, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like Jim, you know, have the name tag.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Earl, you know what I'm saying? Like something, dog.
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  Speaker 3: But it's going to be a vibe, man. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to have candies and stuff at the DJ booth. So,
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  Speaker 3: when you pull up, you come trick-or-treating. And we give
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  Speaker 3: y'all some free goodies. Let's go. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Along with some candy and stuff, we're definitely going to
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  Speaker 3: make sure it's going to be a crazy vibe, man.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, man, we've been getting into the NBA preseason
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of moves around the NBA in the
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  Speaker 3: offseason as usual, but definitely the last few years has
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  Speaker 3: been a little bit more, especially with the way they've
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  Speaker 3: kind of changed the CBA lately where teams are kind
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  Speaker 3: of figuring out we can't just give a big amount
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  Speaker 3: of money to a third player on the team because
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  Speaker 3: that's just not going to let us do anything else
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  Speaker 3: for the team. You know what I mean? So it's
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  Speaker 3: like teams are kind of adjusting. You kind of see
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  Speaker 3: the Jalen during thing with Detroit where like they're negotiating.
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  Speaker 3: They don't really want to give him the money that
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  Speaker 3: he feels like he deserves. Cause they feel like he's.
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  Speaker 3: Nick stopped all contract negotiations. Yeah. With a cat. Well,
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  Speaker 3: all of them period.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it's, it's that thing, man, like with Detroit, They're like,
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  Speaker 3: why am I going to pay so much money to
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  Speaker 3: the third or fourth best guy? Which is what they
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  Speaker 3: pretty much, they said they felt like he was the
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  Speaker 3: fourth best player on their team. Like that came out recently,
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  Speaker 3: which is crazy little tactic right there. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: he's not going to end up in Detroit after that.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm getting to as far as the
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  Speaker 2: Knicks as well. It's like Philly has built the new
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  Speaker 2: Warriors with KD. Yeah or no?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't seen him play.
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  Speaker 3: I would say no, just because there's no prior success.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but that squad right there?
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  Speaker 3: That squad, I would say, is more like, honestly, bro,
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  Speaker 3: that reminds me more of the 2001 Lakers, bro, when
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  Speaker 3: Carl Malone was there.
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  Speaker 2: I think Gary Payton.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Gary Payton. But if you remember, before they got hurt,
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  Speaker 3: they was hooping.
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  Speaker 2: The oldest person on there is Bron.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like the Carl Malone right now on
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  Speaker 3: that team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but on the Lakers, there's a lot of old dudes.
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  Speaker 3: There was a few. But remember, you still had prime Kobe,
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  Speaker 3: prime Shaq. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: They had a squad, bro.
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  Speaker 3: And they got to the finals and they were dominating. Really,
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  Speaker 3: it was just, I think it was Karl Malone that
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  Speaker 3: ended up getting hurt that year. And that's the reason
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  Speaker 3: why they ended up pretty much losing.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't think that messed up the parity in
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  Speaker 2: the NBA? You think all teams are still equally.
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  Speaker 3: Able to win the championship? Oh, yeah. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams right now that you could
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  Speaker 3: realistically see, like, Even like Boston, like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people are already counting them out for the year. But
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  Speaker 3: like you look at their squad and they got a squad.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? And you know how it
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  Speaker 3: is with the NBA, bro. You just got to be
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  Speaker 3: healthy and clicking at the right time. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying? And there's like legit like eight teams that
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  Speaker 3: have the pieces of like if they're healthy and clicking
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  Speaker 3: at the right time, they could win it all. You know,
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  Speaker 3: like there's a big field. Like usually there's not that
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  Speaker 3: big of a field where you're like, oh, man, it
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  Speaker 3: could be like eight to ten teams. But like it
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  Speaker 3: really feels like that now.
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  Speaker 2: I was confident by the Knicks, and they got blown
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  Speaker 2: out by, like, 60 points last night.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be hard to get up
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  Speaker 3: for preseason after winning the championship the way they did.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? There is that hangover. It
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  Speaker 3: definitely doesn't bode well for them. History is not on
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  Speaker 3: their side as far as, like, a team like them
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  Speaker 3: having continued success. Hopefully the chemistry and the vibes can, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's a big deal. You know what I'm saying? Like,
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  Speaker 3: if you– If you keep those players wanting to stay
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  Speaker 3: there and wanting to be a part of something that
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  Speaker 3: they feel like is going to create a legacy that's
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  Speaker 3: going to really cement them, then that's something that could happen.
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  Speaker 3: But without that, if they're not all locked in like that.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot who said it from last year on the Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, we lost to a group of four best
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  Speaker 2: friends because all these guys came from the same club.
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  Speaker 3: And that was a squad that had already been clawing from...
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  Speaker 3: They were clawing in the NBA, but they had been
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  Speaker 3: clawing from college and they were, you know, a group
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  Speaker 3: of talents that were underrated aside from Cat. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you look at that whole team, nobody on there was
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  Speaker 3: like a number one draft prospect.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about that in the chat and I agree
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  Speaker 2: with you. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like when you got players that are coming,
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  Speaker 3: like great players that are coming together at the right
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  Speaker 3: time and like, It wasn't even like they were coming
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  Speaker 3: together at the right time because they had been building
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  Speaker 3: to that moment. Like that was like two, three years
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  Speaker 3: in the making for the Knicks. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And it's like they got to that point and like
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  Speaker 3: they've been building to that. This is not like, to me,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like the start of a dynasty. This is like,
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  Speaker 3: this is what they were building towards. Maybe they get
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  Speaker 3: lucky in the next year or two and maybe like sniff,
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  Speaker 3: you know, at least like, you know, Eastern Conference finals,
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  Speaker 3: maybe finals or whatever, but. I think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be tough for them, especially they already lost Mitchell Robinson
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  Speaker 3: right off the bat.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I'm not mad about that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to make a huge difference.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, man, he made a huge difference in the finals.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. Them intangible guys, bro, you be
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  Speaker 3: needing those guys, bro. And those are the type of
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  Speaker 3: people you miss. Same thing with Detroit, bro. A lot
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: of people are kind of down on Detroit because they
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: don't have Tobias Harris no more. Now, what's his name?
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  Speaker 3: Cade Cunningham don't got somebody he can give the ball
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  Speaker 3: to to create. He don't got nobody on the team
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  Speaker 3: like that no more. Whenever, for me, Tobias Harris, in
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  Speaker 3: the spots that he's been in on previous teams, I
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: never liked him because I feel like they put too
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  Speaker 3: much on him and I just felt like he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: that player. But now, for example, in Detroit, he was
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  Speaker 3: hooping in Detroit because he wasn't the guy and the
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  Speaker 3: pressure wasn't like that. Now, in San Antonio... I have
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  Speaker 3: high hopes for him because it's like they're not looking
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  Speaker 3: to you. You don't got to be a 20 points
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  Speaker 3: a night kind of guy. You come to the team
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  Speaker 3: with a whole bunch of hoopers.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I think it is. It's more about
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  Speaker 2: I think yes or no. You agree with me? Chemistry
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  Speaker 2: over skill in the NBA is what helps teams win?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's like a balance of both, like the
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  Speaker 3: perfect balance of both. 50-50? Yeah, I honestly think it's
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  Speaker 3: 50-50 because there's teams that you see that got that chemistry,
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  Speaker 3: but if you don't got those players that put you
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  Speaker 3: over the edge– Like, you just don't got them. You
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, you need the dogs, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were saying, Ophelia, that's why, I can't remember
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: these names. I'm terrible at names. But Ophelia was like, yo,
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: anytime I got a question, I go to Bron because
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: we're in the room and we're watching video. And we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we should attack like this. And then, like, Bron was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we should do this instead so we could build our
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  Speaker 2: team chemistry and, you know, that camaraderie between us. And
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  Speaker 2: then we'll get to that eventually. And everybody was like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I think Ron brings the Philly. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. It's chemistry.
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  Speaker 3: Philly's dangerous too, bro.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it's chemistry over skill. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: a perfect balance, but it is.
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  Speaker 3: Philly's dangerous, bro. Especially for the Knicks. Philly's dangerous. What's
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  Speaker 3: it called? the Pacers are dangerous. They're back. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Like people forgot about them because Halliburton
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  Speaker 3: was off the whole year, but they still got a squad, man.
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  Speaker 3: I think they got, what's his name? Jay Huff and
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: Obi Toppin in the backcourt. I mean, in the frontcourt.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, bro, they, they, they got a strong,
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  Speaker 3: they got a strong team still. Like, like I said, bro,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams right now that I could
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  Speaker 3: look at them and say, like, realistically, all of these
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  Speaker 3: teams could win. Like Minnesota, the Pacers and, The Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: But how many times has it actually happened? Like, we
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  Speaker 2: thought the same in the NFL. Look at the teams now.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but at least in the NBA, like, the past, like,
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  Speaker 3: eight or nine years has been different champions.
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  Speaker 2: So you trust the NBA kind of dynamic more than
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  Speaker 2: the ….
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the NBA has gotten the parody thing
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  Speaker 3: down more than, like, other leagues for sure. You know
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like I said, bro, it's just shown
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  Speaker 3: in the recent champions. There hasn't been a repeat champion
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  Speaker 3: in so long. Pretty much after the, what's it called,
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  Speaker 3: the Warriors run. That was what? 2015, the last time
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: they went back-to-back?
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm not even watching the baseball playoffs. It's
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: the same teams over here. The Dodgers, the Padres.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: With baseball, it's rough, and then they're starting to crack
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: down on the way they're doing the contracts and stuff
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  Speaker 3: in baseball because of that. Because, like, bro, you cannot
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: compete when they're spending $ 2 billion on a team, bro. Like,
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: A small market team is not going to compete with
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers, bro.
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  Speaker 2: And as much as Otani makes, he hasn't hit a
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  Speaker 2: home run since August. He hasn't hit an RBI since
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know when. They're about to bench that, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying this as a guy with no baseball knowledge
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  Speaker 3: at all. But I feel like if I'm Otani, bro,
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  Speaker 3: call me when the playoffs come, bro. Like at this
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  Speaker 3: point with what he's done.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, they're pretty much in the conference finals right now. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, but I'm saying like throughout the year.
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  Speaker 2: Don't play me through the season.
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  Speaker 3: He's waiting for like when the stakes get real, real. Exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: But like I said, I don't really watch baseball at all.
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  Speaker 3: So I just know that I always hear about the
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  Speaker 3: money thing, especially. Did you hear about the, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was Manchester City or Manchester United.
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: I got to look it up because I got to
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: get this right for sure.
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  Speaker 2: About who?
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: Hold on. I'm about to tell you right now. It's
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: a crazy thing that's happening in soccer.
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  Speaker 2: Football, Yoda.
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  Speaker 3: Manchester. So they were bought by a group that was
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  Speaker 3: mostly Saudi money. And basically, in a nutshell, the way
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  Speaker 3: they do the caps and the way they allow you
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  Speaker 3: to pay the players in soccer in that league, it's
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: based off how much money your sponsors are paying you.
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  Speaker 3: So if you got... let's say half a million, I
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  Speaker 3: mean half a billion in sponsorship money this year, then
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  Speaker 3: next year that's how much money you could use on
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  Speaker 3: your payroll. They found out that what they're investigating and
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  Speaker 3: they found out is that Manchester United was basically like
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: having fake sponsorship just to build the cap. Like it
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: wasn't real sponsorship. They just had companies paying. Exactly. It's
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: like some of the Aspire stuff that happened in the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: So now, I don't know if they figured it out yet,
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  Speaker 3: but they've been trying to figure out how they're going
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  Speaker 3: to punish them. You know what I mean? But basically,
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  Speaker 3: they've been paying themselves to say, oh, this is how
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: much advertising money we got to use that in a payroll,
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't even money they were really getting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of smart.
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  Speaker 3: They were just basically laundering the money.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of smart, though.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, until you get caught.
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  Speaker 2: The same money you're going to pay this player in
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  Speaker 2: the future, you're paying yourself, and eventually you're going to
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  Speaker 2: give that player that same money.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but you're definitely breaking the rules doing that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not ethical. I get it. But, I mean, Kawhi
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  Speaker 2: Leonard did it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It is kind of the same situation, yes or no.
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  Speaker 3: This is something that Bill Simmons said that I thought
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  Speaker 3: made a lot of sense. The Kawhi Leonard thing, kind
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  Speaker 3: of like nobody, not that nobody cares, but they didn't
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  Speaker 3: win anything. So it's like, okay, they did all this
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  Speaker 3: to get bounced in the first round and not even
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  Speaker 3: make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, over there it's different.
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  Speaker 3: But in Manchester United. it bro yeah man everybody's players
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  Speaker 3: they won mad championships yeah like when you find out
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: they over inflated their their payroll like in a in
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: a artificial way and you're in that league bro that's
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: completely true like that's a that's a like.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: That league is worth so much more than exactly exactly
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: that makes a complete.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Difference and they're even saying like with those leagues and
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: the way that that money goes into those communities, like
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: that's like crucial to the city, crucial to the infrastructure
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: of like the area. So it's like, you got to
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: handle it delicately too, because like you still need that money.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So that country is so damn rich, bro.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Facts. That's insane, man. That's, that's when I, when I
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: read that. Oh. And when I heard that from the
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Bill Simmons podcast, I was like, bro, that's crazy, bro.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: If that is something like that, like, like I said,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: imagine if, the whole thing that happened with the Clippers,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: they had been winning that whole time. Like, they had
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: like four or five rings. And then you find that
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: out after, you're like, dang, bro, like, you know what
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I'm saying?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I think it was Matt Barnes that even said, like,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: rebrand the Clippers, giving them a new name. Like, y'all
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: are so, been nothing for so long. Like, it's time
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: to just start over.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I think, I think the fact that Steve Ballmer has
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: so much money, like, there's, there just can't, there's nothing
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: they could do. You know what I'm saying? Like, I
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: think Balmer has more money than the NBA. You know
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? So it's like, it's one of those
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: things where it's like, it don't even matter at the
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: end of the day. It's like the whole thing about like,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: you know AEW, the wrestling company? The son of the
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: owner of the Jags is the guy that owns and
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: operates and restarted that. And bro, his dad is worth
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: billions of dollars, bro. That wrestling show has been like
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: losing money for so long But they don't care, bro. Like,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: they're worth so much money and they're getting so much
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: just as far as, like, building the brand and stuff. And,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of times those companies, they take
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: a while to, like, really get a return anyway, especially.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: With how much money you bring. Then we talked about
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: that previously. It's easier to just let it lose instead
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: of trying to do something with it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Like, if the money's... Like, it's not going to bother them.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if the money's not a thing to you, you
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: don't mind. Like, if you feel like it's working, you're
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: willing to ride it out, basically. You know what I mean?
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: So it's like, It's just crazy when we get so
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: worked up over the sports stuff, but we don't even
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: know the intention of these people that's running these teams.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: It's like the thing with the Magic, bro. People are
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: so passionate about the Orlando Magic, but I just always
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: feel like the ownership has never shown that they've been
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: passionate about winning. You know what I'm saying? So it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: like the team is never going to win.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I think after Shaq, Penny, and T-Mac era, Hasn't been
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the same, like, kind of all.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I think Pablo.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: They had a nice little run.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I think Pablo O'Kara is the latest, like, name.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, they definitely had that run with Dwight. You
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? That was probably, like, the last
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: time they spent any money.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, with Jimmy and Nelson.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: That was, like, the only time they were really, like, that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, they gave Rashard Lewis the biggest contract in
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: NBA history at that time. You know what I mean? Like,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: when they brought him over from the, was it Sonics,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I think? It was him and Ray Allen. He got
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that contract off Ray Allen's back, boy. Everybody was watching
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Ray Allen.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: But when they brought Patrick Ewing over
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and all that shit, Patrick Ewing over, that was kind
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: of crazy time for the Magic. Rob Markman, Jr.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Patrick Ewing in that satin Magic jersey is a
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: dirty memory, bro. That Magic jersey, bro, you know which
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: one I'm talking about? It's like shiny, like a shiny
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: satin white jersey, bro. That jersey was disgusting, bro. That
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: looked like the kind of jersey an evil genie would wear.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: No, it was. I wanted that jersey so bad, bro.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's what's crazy. Bro, that was the worst jersey possible, bro. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I wanted it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Yo, the Magic had some bad jerseys back in the day. Like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: when they switched, like, they had the fire jerseys early,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and then when they went modern at the first time, like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: In like 01 or something like that, it was like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: what are y'all doing, bro? And then they realized, all right,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: we need to go back to the old vibes, man.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Never been a Magic fan, but I always loved
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: the gear. I always loved the jerseys. Yeah, I'm just-
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: The panties.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know I'm just a big basketball fan, so
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I'll go to Magic games just for the vibes, to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: see the Magic play the other teams.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I see Jameer Nelson in the club, bugging all at Antigua.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I see him there on the weekends, give him dap
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: all the time. And what I was going to say,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: another thing is like, it's crazy. Like now, Bron played
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: against Jameer Nelson, and now Bron's playing against Jameer Nelson Jr.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bro. This guy, I was watching the other day
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: some video about like his rookie year. You know, I'm like, bro,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: this is insane, bro. This guy has like, we've said
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: it on the pod before, and people just hate to
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: give him any kind of props. But dog, you cannot
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: hate on the fact that he's been around this long.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: being an elite basketball player. Regardless, you put everything aside,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: he's an elite basketball player. You can't even argue that,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: that he's a top player of all time in the league.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: If he was washed, he wouldn't have... Rookies coming up
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to him and be like, yo, you played against my dad.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Your first game was against my dad.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: But Bron is like, you hear these players on podcasts
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: and interviews and stuff, bro. Bron is like mythical to them, bro.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: They can't even believe that they're playing against him, a
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: lot of them, because they watched him growing up. And
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: you just know that that player is going to be
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: gone by the time you get that age. And he's like, bro,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: he's still here. Like, what the hell is going on?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: There was that one Twitter take. I ain't going to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: say his app, but he was like, oh, Bron looks
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: like he's 50. LeBron's there not to be the number
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: one or the number two, not even the number three.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So he's chilling. Imagine having LeBron James on your team,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and he's maybe your number four or five.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Bro, that's going to be interesting seeing how they work
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the lineups, how they manage Embiid's minutes. That team with
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: a healthy Embiid in the playoffs is scary, bro. But
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: that with a healthy and beating the playoffs is the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: biggest asterisk of all time, bro.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: That is because that never happens.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: But when they asked the coach, he said, what's your
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: small ball lineup and bronze center? Yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: That lineup's going to be insane, bro. With those dogs, bro, Edgecombe, Maxey.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: You know who that goes against perfectly? Who? The Knicks.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Nah, if the Knicks see a healthy Sixers team, that's
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: going to be problems, bro. That's going to be big problems.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: A healthy Sixers team, bro, I'm scared for everybody, bro.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: But this is a one-year run.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: They got to put it together right now and be
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: that team, be that Monstar team right now because that's it, bro.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, 2016, the Warriors, LeBron back in Cleveland, 71-9.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: 73-9.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: 73-9. Oh, there's 112 games?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: No, no, 82.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: 82. Well, not 82. I thought it was 80.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: No, 82, yeah.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: 73-9.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: You think he's coming for a legendary season or what? LeBron?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: You think he got one more in him? People are
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: talking about, too, like, what does that do for LeBron's position, Ayo,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: if he wins on the Sixers this year?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: So, I've always been a LeBron fan. I used to
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: be a Jordan. Same thing. I went from Nas to Jay-Z.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I went from Jordan to LeBron. To me, what I
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: say is, it's like, what matters most? Like, what is
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the dynamic of the whole situation? You know what I mean?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Like, if he goes to Philly and actually contributes to
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: them winning a championship, then he gets his sixth one. No. Fifth.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Fifth one. Even though it's not sixth, does it matter
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a lot more than Jordan's?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: So the way I kind of look at it is like,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like this ring would kind of put Bron
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: in like a space of like something that nobody's ever
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: been able to do of like they can win at
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: all levels in their career, like all stages. Like if
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: he can really play the background on this team but
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: still be like a pivotal piece, like it really shows
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: like his basketball, like his basketball mind is like.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Whenever you see these players,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: these random people on the internet, even NBA players, that's
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: why I said players for the first time, they're like, oh,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: give me your top five qualities for the perfect basketball player.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: And anybody who ever gets to IQ always says LeBron James.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, facts. And it's one of those things, man. For
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the basketball that I've seen, if you're asking me to compare,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go Jordan.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Just because the.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: The moments that I've seen Jordan in, like, I just
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: feel like he's performed better, like, in the moments, like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: from the beginning. You know what I mean? And same thing,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: same way I felt about Tim Duncan. You know what
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like, he's, I'm a Spurs fan, obviously, you know, from,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: you know, living briefly in Texas, like, when I was young.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: That's when I started watching basketball. And, bro, Duncan was
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: another one of those.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Dudes that was, like, no bias. He's just hooping.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? No, but you hear anybody
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: talk about Duncan, and they give him the same props
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I give him.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And I think I contribute that to pop, too, because
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: they had David Robinson.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: But it goes back to the Brady Belichick thing.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: They need each other. You know what I'm saying?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: If you don't got somebody like Duncan humbling himself to
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: play team basketball that way, you're not going to convince
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: the rest of the team to do it. You know
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Like, you're not going to get everybody
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: on board if your best player is not doing it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: That's what happened with Brady. Brady's taking a pay cut.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Brady's in every practice getting chewed out by the coach.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: So that allowed the whole team to really, like, listen
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to the coach and listen to their quarterback. Like, that's
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: part of it, too. But like you said with Bron, like, yo,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: let's do it this way to build our team chemistry
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: instead of, like, just saying, oh, this is the better way.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: He's trying to, like, really make something happen.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Because you see, that's what the Knicks did.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Which is why they slander KD so much, because they
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: say he's just like a mercenary out there hooping, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: he's not doing none of that stuff. Especially Stephen A.,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: he's always coming at KD just thinking like, oh, he's
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: not the type of leader that I want him to
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: be or whatever. And it's like, bro, everybody's not going
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: to be LeBron. Everybody's not going to be Jordan. Bro,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: just let him be the hooper that he is.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: So before we wrap up, you want to do a little...
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Which rapper would be, which Hooper comparison?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: We could do that, man.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: You can name a couple. We could do this every week.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yo.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Which one you got?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: So check this out, man. I'm going to compare, not
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: at this stage, but young.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: No, listen.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: No, but it has to be at this stage.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Listen, listen. You didn't even let me finish, dog. Like,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: what's up with you, man? Not at this stage in
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: his career, but I compare Wemby to Kanye when they
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: were both young because of this. They were both destined
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: for greatness, but got a little too big for their
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: britches early.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: How did Kanye do that?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: So, like, Kanye, he was arrogant from the beginning. He
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: knew he had something, but he was very arrogant, rubbed
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: people the wrong way. And he still won, though. He
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: still won, which I think Wemby will still do. But
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: right now... Wemby's 30th? Right now, yeah. I think he's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: going into the fourth one right now. Right now, though...
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Wemby's in that stage of he got college dropout in
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: his back pocket, but he hasn't got it out yet.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying? I feel like last year, bro,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: when I seen the Spurs celebrate the way they did
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: when they beat OKC, I was like, oh, man. Because
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I had already felt like it was too early for
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: them anyway. You feel what I'm saying? But when I
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: seen the way they reacted after they beat OKC, I'm like, damn, bro,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: this is.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: This is not good.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Because they was acting like they won already. You know
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? That's the arrogance. Like, oh, we made
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: it out the West. Let's go. We got this. You
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? I feel like, like Kanye, when
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: we need a little humbling to then become that guy.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So that's where I'm going
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: with that one.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I get that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: But they put such a whooping on us that we
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: had to beat them. Like, they didn't lose to us.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: We had to beat them. So I still think like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I think his performance wasn't exactly where it should be,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: but he still dominated.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I mean.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But he didn't win.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Like early Kanye, you still can see it.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You still see it's there. He's still dominating. Yeah, you
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: still see.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: It, but you know he's not all the way there
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: because he's too cocky right now. You know what I'm saying?
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to start off from the top of
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the list because I always do this. Drake is LeBron James.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Drake is LeBron. Okay, I see that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Longevity, moments, a lot of losses, but a lot of wins.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Man, I can't wait to.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: And he's still going.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see the feedback for this one, man.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: And he's still going.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And I feel like that's a good comparison.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: So give me this. Before we close out, Kendrick.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Kendrick, who's his NBA equivalent? Who would be Kendrick's NBA equivalent?
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I would say... Man, that's tough, bro. That's tough. I
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: would say Westbrook, bro.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: He don't got the... I would have wanted to pick
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: a player with some rings for Kendrick.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't have to be about that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: But Kendrick is a dog. Everybody respects him. And they
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: all see him as a goat.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And he always stayed true. Like I said, I'm not
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: a Kendrick hater. He always stayed true. He always stayed
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: in his bag, in his lane. He still does that
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: till today. Just as good as he did before. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that's what Westbrook was. We don't have to worry about
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: the rings and the awards, but that's what Westbrook was
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: in the NBA.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. We'll wrap up with that, man. But I'm
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: excited to hear what people think about that one, man.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I think that was a good one.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Talk to us. Yes, sir.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: And you already know.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: State. State butter. Thank you for watching!