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Almost Famous OG: New Taylor Frankie Paul Allegations · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, it is Trista from Almost Famous Oge's and
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Speaker 2: I've got one of my lovely ogs, Dianna's with me today.
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Speaker 1: Love you Dianna, I love you too, God, I get
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Speaker 1: to see this so much this year. What a special treat.
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Speaker 1: I get to see you with iHeart, I get to
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Speaker 1: see you with the Bachelorette. I get to see you podcasting.
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Speaker 1: I love you.
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Speaker 2: I love you too, And we get to see each.
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Speaker 1: Other Sunday this weekend.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say next week, but it's this week.
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Speaker 2: Oh yay, Yes, I'm I'm so excited that all of
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Speaker 2: this stuff is happening. As I think anyone who knows
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Speaker 2: me knows, I love my Bachelorettes, my betties as we
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Speaker 2: call each other, and and it's just it just fills
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Speaker 2: my heart with joy.
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Speaker 1: Had a beautiful post on social media last night. You
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, because I watched your social media
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Speaker 1: post where you were just talking about how how grateful,
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Speaker 1: and I you know me, I love a grateful heart too.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we love each other so much. I
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Speaker 1: love a heart overflowing with gratitude. And I watched your
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Speaker 1: Instagram stories last night and heard you sharing how grateful
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Speaker 1: you are, and I just thought, oh man, I couldn't
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Speaker 1: have put it better myself. Like that's how I felt.
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Speaker 1: After we filmed. I came home and I was just like,
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Speaker 1: my heart is so full, like I could just vomit
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Speaker 1: fullness and gratitude because I just was so happy. I'm
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Speaker 1: really grateful. There was a period of time where I
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Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily grateful for my time on the show, but
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Speaker 1: I am now, and I'm so grateful for the relationship
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Speaker 1: that I have with the women on the show, and
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Speaker 1: just the fact that we get the opportunity to go
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Speaker 1: back so many years later. You know, I think yours
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Speaker 1: was twenty three years ago. Mine's been like eighteen years ago.
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Speaker 1: To be able to go back and film and reminisce
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Speaker 1: and welcome new cast members and just like have no
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Speaker 1: pressure whatsoever. I don't want Taylor Frankie Paul's position that
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Speaker 1: she's in right now, you know what I mean. But
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Speaker 1: just yeah, damn full of love and gratitude for the
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Speaker 1: women that we get to be surrounded with and call friends,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we truly, like I said in the post, we
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Speaker 2: are a sisterhood, people who have shared something that only
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Speaker 2: a very very very small percentage of the world's population
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Speaker 2: have been able to share, and so it just bonds
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Speaker 2: us and you know, like there's of course going to
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Speaker 2: be people who don't vibe with each other, but that's okay,
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Speaker 2: that's like any family, any sisterhood. So I just I
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Speaker 2: love each and every one of these girls, and to
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Speaker 2: be able to see it last night, Like I truly
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Speaker 2: was so emotional watching it because everyone has such an
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Speaker 2: amazing perspective and whatever happened on all of our seasons,
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Speaker 2: whether it was you know, a fairy tale that I
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Speaker 2: got to live through or not, everyone is just was
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Speaker 2: just so happy to be filming the Bachelorette before the
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Speaker 2: final rowse with Taylor and be able to welcome her
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Speaker 2: and just seeing it on the screen, knowing there's so
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Speaker 2: much that you all didn't get to see because of
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Speaker 2: course it ends up on the cutting room floor.
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Speaker 1: All my friends were like, oh, we can't wait to
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Speaker 1: watch it, and I was like, there was eighteen of us.
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Speaker 1: We're all probably on for two seconds, Like that's it,
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Speaker 1: Like no need you know. I kept getting all these texts.
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited I'm so excited. I was like, don't blink,
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Speaker 1: don't link.
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Speaker 2: I know, but I really actually think that they represent
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Speaker 2: Like I feel like everyone kind of got, you know,
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Speaker 2: a good little bit. I was noticing like Meredith didn't
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Speaker 2: have a lot of a part last night, and I
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Speaker 2: don't think like Ashley had a mean I wanted to
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Speaker 2: see more of Ashley.
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Speaker 1: She's so great. I love her. I love her. You
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Speaker 1: know what I think the next season of the Bachelorette
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Speaker 1: should be are is me and Ashley two older divorced
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Speaker 1: women where we just get a free for all and
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Speaker 1: like she and I go at it together like well
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Speaker 1: that sounds terrible, it weird, but you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: That yeah, not that kind of show. This is a
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Speaker 1: a minute, I know.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, oh my gosh, I can't.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, before we talk about that, Trista,
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Speaker 1: there are some headlines this morning. It actually all started
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Speaker 1: last night after our special aired. There's some serious headlines.
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Speaker 1: And you know me and you know my story very well.
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Speaker 1: So I have lots of feels this morning, lots of
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Speaker 1: empathy boiling over for our girl.
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Speaker 2: I know. I'm sure you're all in your fields, that
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Speaker 2: is for sure. So on the Sun the US Sun website.
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Speaker 2: The title is or the headline is Bachelorette Taylor Frankie
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Speaker 2: Paul's ex calls nine one one after violent in quotes
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Speaker 2: fight as Mormon wives filming screeches to a halt.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you left at the part where it says
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Speaker 1: wives in crisis. That is so foul to me. It's
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Speaker 1: so fouls.
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Speaker 2: Oh, wives and crisis is yeah, above the whole title
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Speaker 2: whites and crisis, Like.
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Speaker 1: They just terniately without reading the article, they are blaming
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Speaker 1: a woman for this, like of everything, I am fired
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Speaker 1: up right now, I'm fired up? She is? Why is
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Speaker 1: that always the woman's fault? Why is it always a
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Speaker 1: woman's fault? Oh, you just preach yep.
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Speaker 2: So this was published last night after the special at
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Speaker 2: like eleven thirty seven pm the special aired here, I
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Speaker 2: want to say it was like ten ish around there.
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Speaker 2: So it definitely was published after the special aired. And
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Speaker 2: the reason we're bringing it up is, you know, we
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Speaker 2: can talk and we will be talking about the special
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Speaker 2: and how much fun we had and everything. But I
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Speaker 2: feel like, because this is breaking news, we don't want
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Speaker 2: to avoid it. We want to discuss it. And you
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Speaker 2: have had a history that has been in the headlines.
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Speaker 1: It's called domestic violence.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, So I want you to talk about
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Speaker 2: how you're feeling.
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Speaker 1: Man, I have all sorts of things when I am
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Speaker 1: scrolling this article, I have lots of things coming up
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Speaker 1: for me. I know when something this terrible happened to me. Man,
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Speaker 1: it was so hard to live out the darkest moments
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Speaker 1: of my life in the press, where something should have
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Speaker 1: been so private for me, For my ex Susan and
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Speaker 1: my children to live out every last court filing, everything
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Speaker 1: that happened in my life during that period of time.
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Speaker 1: I mean, was really fucking sick. I was like, really
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Speaker 1: really sick of it. Absolutely no privacy. I had no
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Speaker 1: time to kind of go through things on my own.
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Speaker 1: And my situation was a little different because mine played
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Speaker 1: out in real time, where like this article came out
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Speaker 1: last night, but it looks as though this happened a
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago Trista, which I find really interesting. All
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Speaker 1: of my stuff, the drama came out immediately. It is
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Speaker 1: interesting to me that this has not come out for
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Speaker 1: a few weeks later, and then play it into the
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Speaker 1: fact that the show starts last night, so there's a
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Speaker 1: few bear with me. I have a few feelings. I
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Speaker 1: am really really sad for both of them. Nobody was there,
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Speaker 1: and the truth of the matter is, and I am
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Speaker 1: speaking from personal experience here, there is his side, her side,
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Speaker 1: and the truth. I don't know who was there. I
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Speaker 1: don't know who was there to witness this, witness it.
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Speaker 1: I can see what's being reported that the children were there,
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Speaker 1: which is really unfortunate. I too can fathom and understand
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Speaker 1: and bear the heaviness of that. But really what goes
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Speaker 1: on between Taylor and Dakota. No one knows the truth.
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Speaker 1: No one knows the truth. And when you're in a
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Speaker 1: toxic relationship, and I'm only speaking from experience here, when
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Speaker 1: you are in a toxic relationship like that, everything is hard.
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Speaker 1: They're probably living in fight or flight at every given moment.
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Speaker 1: And then you take them and put them on the
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Speaker 1: same television show and add camera crew, fans, TV, all
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Speaker 1: of the things. She is literally having to face her
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Speaker 1: trauma every single day, every single day. I'm telling you,
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Speaker 1: when she posts on her social media about her anxiety
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Speaker 1: and where she's struggling, like girl, I get it. I
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Speaker 1: have been there. I just was able to keep mind
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Speaker 1: quiet for the sanctity of my own personal wellbeing. She
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Speaker 1: is living this out in real time and filming a
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Speaker 1: television show, two shows at that two shows in real time.
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Speaker 1: Having to live in this trista. I'm telling you, Like
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Speaker 1: for me personally, I was sick every day, I could
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Speaker 1: not eat. Opening my phone caused me so much anxiety
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Speaker 1: to see what US Weekly or in Touch or Yahoo
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Speaker 1: would publish about me. The fact that I had to
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Speaker 1: live in constant fear that my mugshot, Yeah, how awful
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Speaker 1: is it to say that would be put in the press.
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Speaker 1: The sheer amount of anxiety that I felt going to
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Speaker 1: the grocery store when a woman stopped me and said,
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Speaker 1: I'm really sorry for all the things that you're going
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Speaker 1: through to have to face other people. I was like
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Speaker 1: dead inside personally. So when I see this, and I
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Speaker 1: see this for Taylor, what should be one of the
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Speaker 1: happiest times of her life right now? You know, like
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Speaker 1: that poor girl is on a roller coaster. I feel
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Speaker 1: like I can see her in my head, riding around
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Speaker 1: in circles and flailing with their arms up saying please
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Speaker 1: help me, please help me, and we're all just watching
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Speaker 1: or go by, and she can't get off until the
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Speaker 1: time is right, you know. But you know there's the
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Speaker 1: other piece, Trista, where I'm like, oh, I'm a little
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Speaker 1: angry at the media that they are waiting until Whose
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Speaker 1: plan was this to release it the night she was
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Speaker 1: going to be at the Oscars, the night that the
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Speaker 1: special for her season was going to air. How sick
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Speaker 1: to me? How sick is it to play on someone's downfall,
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Speaker 1: her emotional capacity to handle things, his their child's Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for numbers, like, that's so sick. Yeah, And.
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Speaker 2: I feel like, if it happened a few weeks ago,
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Speaker 2: why wasn't it reported? Then? Did it get buried in
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Speaker 2: order to bring it up now when the press is
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Speaker 2: all over her and she's doing interviews on the red carpet,
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Speaker 2: or maybe they get less pressed because it's the Oscar
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Speaker 2: So the Oscars is going.
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Speaker 1: To bury it? Well, you and I both know that
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Speaker 1: ABC has a huge team. There's a huge team of
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Speaker 1: course that works on the show is on ABC for
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Speaker 1: a reason. They like a certain amount of drama because
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Speaker 1: that's why people watch. But they also have a team, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: protects the Bachelorette. That's their for this season, that's their
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Speaker 1: golden child. They're going to go to great lengths to
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Speaker 1: protect her, so maybe this was the best way to
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Speaker 1: do it. It could get shuffled in all of the
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Speaker 1: stuff very quickly. When I open up my Instagram this morning,
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Speaker 1: it's all about Michael B. Jordan at in and out
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Speaker 1: with his oscar, you know what I mean. I didn't
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Speaker 1: actually see anything about Taylor Frinky Paul until our producer
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Speaker 1: Heather sent it over because I was buried by all
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Speaker 1: the oscar stuff. Like, maybe it was very calculated. Maybe
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Speaker 1: it is doing her a solid.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking this when you said this. They didn't
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Speaker 2: really protect mellowens though, so I think it depends on
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Speaker 2: who it is and if they're going to, you know,
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Speaker 2: go to great links to protect them. I want to
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Speaker 2: read what's in the article so that we can speak
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Speaker 2: about what was reported, or at least let you all
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Speaker 2: know it says. An officer said that when cops responded
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Speaker 2: to the thirty one year old mom of three's home
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Speaker 2: on February twenty third, there were allegations of violence. There
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Speaker 2: are allegations quote there are allegations of violence from him,
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Speaker 2: but it would be fair to say it was made
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Speaker 2: from both parties.
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Speaker 1: Quote.
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Speaker 2: The officer said, she's alleging other things as well. It's
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Speaker 2: a complicated one, very he said, she said. Another law
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Speaker 2: enforcement source confirmed it was a domestic incident, but no
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Speaker 2: arrests were made. The first officer, however, added that there
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Speaker 2: still could be an arrest, as the cops moved the
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Speaker 2: case over to the prose Prosecutor's office for review. The
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Speaker 2: case is still an ongoing and active investigation. The source
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Speaker 2: close to production told the Son that filming for The
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Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormon Wise has been paused for the
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Speaker 2: past two weeks, with the rest of the cast allegedly
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Speaker 2: refusing to film. Taylor is definitely in some hot water.
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Speaker 2: That was a quote, the insider said. The source claims
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Speaker 2: that Taylor and Dakota's relationship has been volatile for some time.
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Speaker 2: The insider claim that production has been protecting Taylor in
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Speaker 2: her relationship with Dakota, beyond her twenty twenty three arrest
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Speaker 2: for aggravated assaults against him. In the particular incident in
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Speaker 2: which Dakota called nine on one, the source claimed, this
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Speaker 2: makes me so sad that their toddler son ever was present,
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Speaker 2: and that is a big reason the rest of the
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Speaker 2: cast is refusing to film. Well, good for them. I
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Speaker 2: think that was the last straw for Dakota. He pretty
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Speaker 2: much just had enough, the insider explained.
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Speaker 1: Explained.
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Speaker 2: The insider claimed that since all the main cast members
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Speaker 2: are mothers, they are very upset over this and they
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Speaker 2: don't want to film until the issue is properly addressed. Quote.
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Speaker 2: Everyone is refusing to film unless they can actually talk
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Speaker 2: about Taylor and Dakota's incident, and production is not going
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Speaker 2: to allow that, the source added. The insider explained that Taylor,
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Speaker 2: who attended the Oscars on Sunday, is Hulu's quote unquote
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Speaker 2: prized child quote. That's why she gets all these opportunities.
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Speaker 2: No one can really go against her because she's so
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Speaker 2: protected by the production and Hulu and Disney, the insider said,
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Speaker 2: So now they're all like, we've had enough of this.
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Speaker 2: Everyone needs to know about this. We're not cool with this,
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Speaker 2: and we're not going to film until it gets aired out.
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Speaker 2: So that's essentially where things are at. The insider said,
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Speaker 2: despite the outrageous allegations, they don't believe Taylor has started
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Speaker 2: drinking again. Production has been begging everyone to film, the
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Speaker 2: insider continued, and everyone's like, no, we're not going to
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Speaker 2: do it. Until a statement gets issued about this incident.
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Speaker 2: The Insider claimed it keeps going. The Insider claimed there
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Speaker 2: was a similar incident that triggered Taylor's stay at a
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Speaker 2: retreat at the start of season three. SUN has contacted
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Speaker 2: attorneys and reps for Taylor, an attorney for Dakota, as
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Speaker 2: well as Hulu for this story. Dakota and Taylor have
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Speaker 2: been at odds for years and recently fought over custody,
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Speaker 2: as as exclusively revealed by The US Sun. The dispute
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Speaker 2: began in June when Dakota filed a petition regarding the
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Speaker 2: custody of their then one year old son. Ever, in
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Speaker 2: his filing, Dakota requested that the court formally established custody arrangements,
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Speaker 2: a visitation, visitation schedule, and child support requirements.
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Speaker 1: It's just going on about the sensitivity of the subject.
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Speaker 1: You know, I almost feel a little dirty even reading
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Speaker 1: it all because there is a child involved, and again
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Speaker 1: just this being so close to my heart, everything that
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Speaker 1: they're going through, custody, child sport, all of that. I
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Speaker 1: had to play all of this out in the media,
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Speaker 1: and the truth of the matter is, none of it
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Speaker 1: is anybody's business. None of it is anybody's business. The
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Speaker 1: fact that we go to court over real life things,
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Speaker 1: and because we are public people, these sickos just stand
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Speaker 1: on the stairs. If your name is recognizable, they write
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Speaker 1: an article and they sell it so that they can
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Speaker 1: hit ads like what's in here. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: these things might not be true, Trista. They could be
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Speaker 1: we don't know, but I'm saying from experience, this makes
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Speaker 1: me feel gross that we're reading about her life because
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Speaker 1: I had to do it too. The fact that people
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Speaker 1: published where I worked, how much money I made, what
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Speaker 1: I was worth, Like, it's just sick. It's none of
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Speaker 1: anybody's business. I asked for my court documents to be blocked. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, I totally understand what you are saying, and to
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Speaker 2: an extent I agree.
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Speaker 1: But I also feel like people.
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Speaker 2: Are going to want to know what's happening because Taylor
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Speaker 2: and Dakota have been on a reality show, Like their
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Speaker 2: relationship is part of a reality show. So you were
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Speaker 2: not part of a reality show. It wasn't like your
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Speaker 2: daily life, your real life with Taylor and Dakota. I
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Speaker 2: feel like it's a little bit different, and a part
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Speaker 2: of me is understands where the rest of the cast
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Speaker 2: for Mormon Wives is coming from because they want it
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Speaker 2: out in the open. They want to be able to
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Speaker 2: talk about it, because it's like the elephant in the room.
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Speaker 1: Like if they don't eat that even that it doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean just because they're on a show and they met
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Speaker 1: on a show and they put their life out there,
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Speaker 1: that they have to share every last dirty detail with
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Speaker 1: the public or with me. And yeah, it just doesn't.
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Speaker 1: And honestly, you know, the media as well as I do.
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Speaker 1: A source, a source who is sharing these details, who's
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Speaker 1: doing that. I'm sorry. These girls are getting paid money.
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Speaker 1: There's no why they're standing There's no way they're standing
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Speaker 1: around going oh, I'm not going to film today and
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Speaker 1: make my three hundred thousand dollars unless Taylor stands up
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Speaker 1: and says I hit him in the face again, I
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Speaker 1: don't know that to be true. I'm just I'm exaggerating
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Speaker 1: a bit, but like, I just don't see that happening.
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Speaker 1: And it has to be a little bit more serious
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Speaker 1: than what we are reading. Because production is money. Trista,
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Speaker 1: you know that as well as I do. They don't
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Speaker 1: just shut down for anything.
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Speaker 2: Talking this is significant, this is there's a big reason
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Speaker 2: why they're not filming, and this is I would assume
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Speaker 2: this is it, but they are. We know for a
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Speaker 2: fact that they are not filming right now, So I
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Speaker 2: think it's I. I mean, I hear you. I as
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Speaker 2: someone we both have been in the public eye. There
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Speaker 2: are a lot of things that I'm like, just leave
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Speaker 2: us alone, like it's none of your business. But she is.
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Speaker 2: She is a different case altogether because she this reality
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Speaker 2: show Mormon Wives is part of her real life. And
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Speaker 2: I get that you're you're thinking of it in like
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Speaker 2: terms of a salacious like let's gossip about it and
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Speaker 2: talk about their business when we shouldn't be. But I
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Speaker 2: feel like if someone I'm trying to put myself in
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Speaker 2: the place of one of the other cast members of
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Speaker 2: Mormon Wives, and you can't act like you can't go
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Speaker 2: about like everything is okay. If she's your friend, then
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Speaker 2: in real life I would talk to you about what
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Speaker 2: is going on if you're my friend, because I want
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Speaker 2: to make sure that you're okay. So I look at
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Speaker 2: it more of a not sillacious, but this has got
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Speaker 2: to be all encompassing, like taking over their life. As
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Speaker 2: you said, it's super stressful. It is involving every aspect
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Speaker 2: of everything that they're doing, and probably the second that
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Speaker 2: they wake up in the morning, that's what they think about.
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Speaker 2: When they go to bed at night, that's what they're
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Speaker 2: thinking about. So how can you not talk about it?
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Just from a like,
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Speaker 2: let's be real, let's be real, this is a reality show.
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Speaker 2: Let's be real, and let's talk about it at least
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Speaker 2: at least just bring it up and say, you know what,
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Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable talking about it or whatever, but I
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Speaker 2: feel like it needs to be addressed in order for
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Speaker 2: them to film. I see why that maybe.
19:55
Speaker 1: And that looks like where they take some time to
19:58
Speaker 1: figure some things out. I don't know what this looks
19:59
Speaker 1: like like for either one of them. They obviously need
20:01
Speaker 1: some help. They're obviously in the center of a very
20:04
Speaker 1: toxic scenario and a very toxic relationship, and honestly, until
20:10
Speaker 1: the two of them can get help for whatever, that
20:12
Speaker 1: looks like they're not going to be able to take
20:13
Speaker 1: a step back and stop jumping in the cycle of unhealth.
20:18
Speaker 1: I had to take a very hard look at my
20:20
Speaker 1: life and step back and work on me and stop
20:24
Speaker 1: jumping on the crazy train. I had to stop, like
20:26
Speaker 1: for my own sanity, for my own well being. Look
20:28
Speaker 1: at where my life had become. And maybe for whatever reason,
20:31
Speaker 1: Taylor's just not there yet. For whatever reason, She's got
20:35
Speaker 1: to be broken a little bit more, or him for
20:37
Speaker 1: that matter. It's just ah, man, it just is so
20:41
Speaker 1: hard when there's kids involved. It's so hard when there's
20:44
Speaker 1: kids involved, you know. And then you take a mom,
20:47
Speaker 1: a mama bear who wants to protect her children but
20:50
Speaker 1: also is crazy. Let me tell you, when I was
20:54
Speaker 1: in the thick of it, I was crazy, Trista like
20:56
Speaker 1: I was crazy. So you add life, life and our
21:01
Speaker 1: children on top of that, react flipping crazy. I will
21:05
Speaker 1: go off the rails. And it is so hard to
21:09
Speaker 1: come down from that state a fight or flight. When
21:11
Speaker 1: you are there, when you are so deeply triggered by
21:14
Speaker 1: pain and unhealth and a toxic relationship, it is so
21:18
Speaker 1: hard to bring yourself back down to reality without the
21:22
Speaker 1: help of some professional, some therapy, some distance. And that's
21:26
Speaker 1: the truth. They're filming a television show. They can't. I
21:29
Speaker 1: can literally I put cameras up everywhere, and I can
21:31
Speaker 1: tell my ex not to come to my home. I
21:35
Speaker 1: can do that. They're filming a television show where she
21:39
Speaker 1: has to show up every day and look him in
21:42
Speaker 1: the face for whatever has happened that we may or
21:45
Speaker 1: may not know. She's got to look at him every
21:48
Speaker 1: day and film a show and pretend like it's not
21:51
Speaker 1: eating her alive on the inside.
21:54
Speaker 2: I know it's got to be so hard. My heart
21:57
Speaker 2: goes out to her. I cannot image the show itself,
22:14
Speaker 2: the Bachelorette itself, take Away Mormon Wives, I mean, just
22:19
Speaker 2: the Bachelorette itself can be hard because you are thrust
22:22
Speaker 2: into the public eye. But she's got two reality shows,
22:26
Speaker 2: and she's got whatever is happening with the coda going
22:29
Speaker 2: on and any other drama. Like I from what I understand,
22:34
Speaker 2: the show is not without drama.
22:36
Speaker 1: So I feel like.
22:37
Speaker 2: It's got to be so so hard. And I'm just
22:41
Speaker 2: sending all the positive vibes to Taylor and really praying
22:48
Speaker 2: that she can just stay strong for her kids, like
22:50
Speaker 2: because bottom line, that's that's what's most important I know,
22:54
Speaker 2: and I know that's what's most important to her too.
22:57
Speaker 2: And yeah, actually I also have to say positive vibes
23:01
Speaker 2: to Dakota too. We none of us know what happened
23:05
Speaker 2: that day because we weren't there, and so who knows.
23:09
Speaker 2: I feel like, as just a parent, it's got to
23:13
Speaker 2: be just so hard thinking about your kids and wanting
23:17
Speaker 2: to protect them, and being in the public eye just
23:21
Speaker 2: throws a whole huge wrench into that.
23:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I could say that. I can't imagine Trista,
23:25
Speaker 1: but I have a pretty good grasp of how awful
23:28
Speaker 1: it might be for the two of them today, you know,
23:31
Speaker 1: and then right there's a baby. There's a baby. There's
23:34
Speaker 1: children that you have to consider there, and that's the
23:38
Speaker 1: you know, end all, be all right there right there.
23:40
Speaker 1: They need to do everything that they can to protect
23:43
Speaker 1: their child right now in this moment. And if that
23:45
Speaker 1: means they're separate or one is not seeing the child
23:49
Speaker 1: over the other for whatever reason, first and foremost, those
23:52
Speaker 1: children need to be protected. And if what we're reading
23:54
Speaker 1: is true that this happened with a child in presence,
23:57
Speaker 1: we're talking a whole other scenario, Trista. We're talking child
24:00
Speaker 1: protective services. We're talking a completely different scenario with this,
24:04
Speaker 1: When children are involved in domestic violence, it is completely
24:08
Speaker 1: completely different. I was actually shocked to see that they
24:12
Speaker 1: didn't take anyone to jail in the state of California,
24:14
Speaker 1: when there is domestic violence, one person has to go
24:17
Speaker 1: to jail. Because you've told me that. Yeah, because of
24:20
Speaker 1: the oj Simpson case. He never went to jail, never
24:22
Speaker 1: went to jail, and then ultimately Nicole ended up being murdered, right,
24:27
Speaker 1: So they changed it after that. When there is domestic
24:30
Speaker 1: violence in the state of California, someone always We saw
24:33
Speaker 1: this with the Gabby Petito case, you know what I mean,
24:37
Speaker 1: she was taken to jail and people were in an
24:38
Speaker 1: uproar that she was the one taken to jail. They
24:40
Speaker 1: do that in a means to protect someone so that
24:42
Speaker 1: once the police leave, things don't escalate further and someone
24:46
Speaker 1: gets really really hurt. So in a domestic violence case,
24:49
Speaker 1: someone goes to jail.
24:51
Speaker 2: Right.
24:51
Speaker 1: In my case it was me, we won't go there.
24:55
Speaker 1: But I was really shocked when we read that article
24:58
Speaker 1: that neither one of them went to jail. And I
25:01
Speaker 1: don't know, you know Idaho laws.
25:04
Speaker 2: Was it in Idaho or was it in Utah?
25:06
Speaker 1: I think it was in Utah, Oh, Utah, Okay, whatever, Yeah,
25:09
Speaker 1: I know laws in California because I've had to pay
25:11
Speaker 1: a lot of money for them. I don't know the
25:14
Speaker 1: laws in Utah. But I found that very very interesting
25:17
Speaker 1: that neither one of them had to go to jail
25:19
Speaker 1: when it was domestic violence and that there was a
25:23
Speaker 1: child involved. I found that very interesting.
25:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, I think that that is wise.
25:28
Speaker 2: I know that you struggled with that because when they
25:31
Speaker 2: arrested you, you had done nothing wrong and it was
25:34
Speaker 2: on video from what I understand, So I don't know. Anyway,
25:42
Speaker 2: we don't have to go down that road. I feel like,
25:45
Speaker 2: you know, we are very sympathetic empathetic to tailor in
25:51
Speaker 2: Dakota's situation, and we send them all the love and
25:57
Speaker 2: and hope that they can just focus on the kids,
26:01
Speaker 2: which I know Dakota is doing. He did just his
26:04
Speaker 2: last post he was with ever in Idaho. So it
26:10
Speaker 2: seems like they're making memories and are happy.
26:13
Speaker 1: And that's all we want. In the grand skin, that's.
26:15
Speaker 2: All we want.
26:16
Speaker 1: That's all we want. That's a healthy relationship for dad,
26:18
Speaker 1: a healthy relationship for mom. Hopefully she finds love, Hopefully
26:22
Speaker 1: he finds something else, and then within time and it
26:24
Speaker 1: always takes time, hopefully there is some healing in that
26:28
Speaker 1: relationship for the sake of the children. That's what you
26:30
Speaker 1: hope that I'm a year makes a world of a difference.
26:33
Speaker 1: I'll promise you that.
26:35
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, that was a lot to cover with
26:39
Speaker 2: the breaking news with Taylor and Dakota. We are going
26:43
Speaker 2: to be back really soon with more from the Before
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Speaker 2: the Final Row Special