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December 11, 2025 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 1: We're at Hollover Inland in Miami, Florida with Captain Baby
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  Speaker 1: Raymond and go hard fishing after a day on the
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  Speaker 1: water and we fought, man, but we scratched out some
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  Speaker 1: nice pictures and some good fish.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, people are gonna hear the report and
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  Speaker 2: I'll say, you know, we caught two fish up to
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  Speaker 2: two feet long, and everyone will just be knocked off
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  Speaker 2: their chair man.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, you you told me this the people, when
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  Speaker 1: the keys told me this. It's been tough for a while.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a little bit tough, but hey, I told
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  Speaker 1: you you can't catch a fish.
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  Speaker 7: If your line's not in the water.
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  Speaker 8: That's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: We tried our butts off out there, you know, with
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  Speaker 2: the kite up and the flatlines out for a sale
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  Speaker 2: fish or a king or a wahoo, are dolphin or tuna.
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  Speaker 7: Got a couple of bytes, yeah, a couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Bites, but no hits that actually landed in the boat.
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  Speaker 2: And we ended up in the inlet at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day and saved it with a big snook
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  Speaker 2: from you and a beautiful little black grouper. The snook
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  Speaker 2: was probably thirty two inches long, so nice. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: had a couple beautiful jumps right with the rich Carlton
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  Speaker 2: in the background.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, and we lost a couple too.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's part of the game.
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  Speaker 2: You can't catch them all, you know, you try to
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  Speaker 2: catch them all and sort them out at the end.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I want to say that Abe donated a
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  Speaker 1: trip to the Billfish Foundation that we were able to
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  Speaker 1: bid on, because when I saw his name on the list,
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  Speaker 1: I said, hey, I.
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  Speaker 7: Know that guy.
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  Speaker 1: I fished with that guy, So thank you for doing that.
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  Speaker 1: I know you do that quite often.
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  Speaker 8: It means a lot to me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, those people over there do a ton of
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  Speaker 2: research for us and let us know how fast they
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  Speaker 2: grew and where those billfish went. And yeah, we have
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  Speaker 2: them recaptured at a rate of probably two to three percent.
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  Speaker 7: Wow, it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we think it's probably the highest among most of
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  Speaker 2: the boats that have done it because we always leave
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  Speaker 2: them in the water, get that tag in and safely
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  Speaker 2: don't beat the fish up. And that's important to the
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  Speaker 2: future and it helps us catch more fish if we
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  Speaker 2: know where they went.
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  Speaker 9: How's the fishery around here right now?
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  Speaker 7: How would you describe it?
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  Speaker 2: I would say overall, the pelagic migratory species are most
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  Speaker 2: consistent in the spring, but in other times of the
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  Speaker 2: year they're lacking. As far as a bottom fishery here,
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  Speaker 2: the continental shelf is so short and narrow that the
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  Speaker 2: pressure is just too immense to support any kind of
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  Speaker 2: really quality bottom fish. So when I need nice bottom fish,
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  Speaker 2: I really have to reach way.
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  Speaker 8: Up the sleeves to pull out those nice.
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  Speaker 2: Groupers and snappers just because it's hit so hard. Our
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  Speaker 2: brief here is only two and a half miles wide.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people in this city, four
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  Speaker 2: million of them in Greater Miami, and.
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  Speaker 1: I think three million of them were out in boats
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  Speaker 1: yesterday on a Sunday and.
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  Speaker 8: There was a lot of fiberglass out there. You could
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  Speaker 8: barely get through it. There's so many.
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  Speaker 2: With that kind of pressure though, you got to pull
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  Speaker 2: out all the stops to try to catch a bottom fish.
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  Speaker 2: So I think overall the bottom fishing is hurting. The
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  Speaker 2: logic migratory species are always going to be consistent when
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  Speaker 2: they need to come down here and lay their eggs.
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  Speaker 7: That's our and we were talking.
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  Speaker 1: The last couple of years, a lot of the cell
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  Speaker 1: fish who would normally come even this early when the
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  Speaker 1: water cools, have been staying a little farther north.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's been tough.
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  Speaker 2: They've been stopping about Jupiter, which is about seventy miles
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  Speaker 2: north of here in Miami, and they're staying there for
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  Speaker 2: whatever reason. We tried to blame it on the winter's
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  Speaker 2: the last four or five years, but now we had
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  Speaker 2: plenty of winter this year and they're still not down here.
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  Speaker 7: So who knows.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta wonder whether it's the bait or the water
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  Speaker 2: temperature for the bait, but we'll figure it out someday.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they follow the bait, I mean, fish are gonna
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  Speaker 1: follow bait period.
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  Speaker 8: Right absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a plethora of bait up there, right down
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  Speaker 2: from Palm Beach to Jupiter up there and north that
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  Speaker 2: those fish are probably just gorging on and they see
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  Speaker 2: no reason to come any further south.
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  Speaker 8: I would suppose.
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  Speaker 1: Now we had stopped and tried to catch some ballet
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  Speaker 1: who this morning, and we know they're around, but not
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  Speaker 1: We didn't see any spray showers.
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  Speaker 2: Today, No, no showers, Not much activity from frigatebirds picking
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  Speaker 2: off value, or I didn't see one flying fish.
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  Speaker 8: Yep, I didn't see any baby benitas. And those three
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  Speaker 8: groups would be the mainstay of.
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  Speaker 2: Offshore food sources for salefish. So it's alarming.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's just they're just not here yet, or I
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  Speaker 1: know they've been here and have moved out with weather changes.
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  Speaker 1: I know you guys have had unbelievable number of weather changes.
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  Speaker 1: The wind's been blown from every direction every other day.
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  Speaker 2: Right correct, And when you get that pressure barometrically changing
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  Speaker 2: constantly like that, from cold front to cold front to
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  Speaker 2: cold front, it's just too much of a swing, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times the fish can't get acclimated to it.
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  Speaker 2: But if you get an onshore wind like we have
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  Speaker 2: now for three or four or five days, sometimes it'll
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  Speaker 2: turn the fish.
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  Speaker 8: On a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: I told you at two twenty tomorrow afternoon, you need
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  Speaker 1: to be out on the water, so that's when the
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  Speaker 1: howards are leaving.
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  Speaker 7: The say always a.
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  Speaker 8: Day late and a dollar short man telling.
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  Speaker 7: You it was it's a beautiful. The weather has just
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  Speaker 7: been spectacular.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever been down here without humidity.
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  Speaker 7: It's just been amazing.
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  Speaker 8: For us. It really is paradise this time of year.
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  Speaker 2: Is no mosquitoes, gorgeous weather, beautiful blue ocean out there,
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  Speaker 2: or more could you want out of life besides a
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  Speaker 2: few more fish.
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  Speaker 9: Well, and you have that too. We have just had
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  Speaker 9: bitten the last few days.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, they'll be back, Bill exactly. They always come back.
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  Speaker 2: They've got to come right by here through the Straits
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  Speaker 2: of Florida, but between Florida and the Bahamas Bank, the
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  Speaker 2: it's their main highway, So they'll be back down.
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  Speaker 1: And April may probably pretty heavy through here.
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  Speaker 8: From the latter half of April through the first.
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  Speaker 2: Half of June is usually lights out with big black
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  Speaker 2: fintunas and salefish and kingfish and dolphin groupers on the recks.
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  Speaker 2: And it's usually very very good fishing in the springtime
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  Speaker 2: consistently for us, because the fish have to come down
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  Speaker 2: here to spawn.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, you told me you caught a thirty
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  Speaker 1: three pound black fintuna.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, last year on a light spinning rod, twenty pound outfit,
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  Speaker 2: and a guy probably fought it for a half an
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  Speaker 2: hour on that twenty pound spinner.
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  Speaker 9: That is a big black fintuna.
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  Speaker 8: It was a beautiful black fintuna.
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  Speaker 2: He ate a live herring drifted out here and two
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  Speaker 2: hundred feet right off a haul over inlet, and he
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  Speaker 2: spanked the guy. Man, a guy was beat after he
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  Speaker 2: could barely lift up the run.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why I told you that I want
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  Speaker 1: to catch any amberjacks today. We could have gone to
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  Speaker 1: the rex probably and had a few more bites exactly,
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  Speaker 1: and we look, we knew what it is, but we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do that, and then it was a great day.
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  Speaker 7: They're just that's just how it goes.
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  Speaker 8: Well, the bigger they are, the harder you fall.
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  Speaker 2: But we came back to the inlet and saved it
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  Speaker 2: with a beautiful snook which is a world class game fish,
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  Speaker 2: and a real nice little grouper.
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  Speaker 7: So we got some jumps too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, beautiful jumps, nice golden color in the sunlight.
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  Speaker 8: You know. Fish like that makes the whole day worthwhile.
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  Speaker 1: Really, Oh no, there's no doubt about that. But even
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  Speaker 1: if there wasn't, I mean again, you have weather like
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  Speaker 1: this and the water. By the way, how far off
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  Speaker 1: the beach was the current.
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  Speaker 2: Today, Well, the mainstay, the hardest current today was two
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  Speaker 2: and a half miles off shore. There was two and
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  Speaker 2: a half not to current, which is about three miles
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  Speaker 2: an hour.
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  Speaker 9: Which is really really what you want.
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  Speaker 2: It's really conducive conditions for catching a sailfish. With that
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  Speaker 2: nice hard north current, cobalt blue water and a nice
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  Speaker 2: southeast wind, it's perfect conditions. Plus the sailfish are usually
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  Speaker 2: swimming south, migrating that way in the wintertime, and with
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  Speaker 2: a southeast wind down here, the kite baits are on
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  Speaker 2: the side where they're facing the fish first, just like
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  Speaker 2: fishing trout in the stream. So the way the sailfish
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  Speaker 2: are laying, we're pointed right at the kite baits all day.
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  Speaker 2: Even if the sailfish were just sitting in the current,
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  Speaker 2: our baits would see them first.
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  Speaker 7: And we've kite fish. I've kite fished with you and
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  Speaker 7: Bouncer for so many years.
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  Speaker 1: Tell our listeners what the benefits are to fishing with
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  Speaker 1: the kite and how you're dropping these baits down to
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  Speaker 1: the fish.
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  Speaker 2: Fishing with the kite is fantastic because you can keep
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  Speaker 2: the baits in their own quadrants where they can't possibly
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  Speaker 2: get tangled with the other baits. For one thing, Secondly,
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  Speaker 2: it's visually stunning to see a fish come up a.
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  Speaker 7: Sail right on the surface.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, they're splashing right on the surface.
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  Speaker 2: And the biggest benefit is that all of your terminal
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  Speaker 2: tackle is out of the waters, even the hook sometimes
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  Speaker 2: so just a belly and three quarters of the bottom
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  Speaker 2: half of the fish is splashing on the surface. And
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  Speaker 2: there's no way that even a larger eyed fish like
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  Speaker 2: tunas could see that you had a hook in that bait.
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  Speaker 2: And that's really advantageous to it. You bridle the bait,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely bridle it, and that gives you better hook exposure
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  Speaker 2: when you bridle it, so the hook's not through the
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  Speaker 2: meat of the fish.
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  Speaker 8: And then on top of that.
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  Speaker 2: If you get seaweed, or if your bait gets chopped
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  Speaker 2: in half or he dies or a man of war
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  Speaker 2: tentacle gets on him you like we did today, correct,
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  Speaker 2: like it happened multiple times. You can see when that happens,
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to like a flat line where you would
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  Speaker 2: have no idea that that bait was dead. You might
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  Speaker 2: be out there for an hour with that bait and
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  Speaker 2: have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference in your mind between fishing live bait
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  Speaker 1: and dead bait for these pelagic species.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man, night and day, it's night and day. There's
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  Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind that you will catch sailfish
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  Speaker 2: at least three or four to one on live bait
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  Speaker 2: that you would catch trolling out here off Miami at least,
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  Speaker 2: and for most of the other species it's probably two
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  Speaker 2: or three to one with the exceptional wahoo.
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  Speaker 1: Now having said that, sometime they're very finicky on the
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  Speaker 1: kind of bait they'll eat, aren't they.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: You know, usually when there's a lot of flying fish
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  Speaker 2: out here, the fish are keyed in to a smaller
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  Speaker 2: bait like a pilchered or a small herring, And when
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of baby benitas out here on the reef,
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  Speaker 2: then you want to fish a bigger.
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  Speaker 8: Bait like a goggley.
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  Speaker 2: Typically that would help you to match the hatch out there,
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  Speaker 2: just like you would in a stream.
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  Speaker 1: There are times as well, and sometimes as time of year,
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  Speaker 1: that all de takes ballet who because they're so keyed
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  Speaker 1: in on the on the ballet who and the balls
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  Speaker 1: of ballet.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes there's spraying values like crazy, and there's frigatebirds and
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  Speaker 2: pelicans diving, and the salefish are in there showering them
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  Speaker 2: with their fins out of the water. And if you
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  Speaker 2: have some nice live value, you can actually run right
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  Speaker 2: up to them and sit fish them. Cast that valley
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  Speaker 2: who right on the nose of a sailfish and they'll
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  Speaker 2: strike it beautifully. I'm twenty to fifty feet of water
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  Speaker 2: sometimes and you watch the whole show unfold.
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  Speaker 8: It's really impressive.
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  Speaker 1: So you have seen these billfishing and as little as
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  Speaker 1: twenty feet of water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just last week I had a nice sailfish ball
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  Speaker 2: in a school of cigar menos in twenty five feet
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  Speaker 2: of water.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I lost them for a moment and I look back
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  Speaker 2: and there's a huge value shower and I ran up
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  Speaker 2: to that and the salefish was in a valley who's
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  Speaker 2: eating them? He was lit up, you know, just fluorescent
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  Speaker 2: purple beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Tell our listeners what that means when you say the
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  Speaker 1: fish is lit up, because a lot of these logic
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  Speaker 1: species do that.
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  Speaker 2: The pigmentation in the skin of a migratory pelagic fish
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  Speaker 2: lights up when they're excited, chasing bait, scared, and it
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  Speaker 2: just turns the most beautiful purple violet color you ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to describe, but it's just a glowing purple
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  Speaker 2: color that these fish turn and as soon as you
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  Speaker 2: gaff the fish and put them in the boat, it's
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  Speaker 2: such a shame because ten minutes later, all that color
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  Speaker 2: fades from them and they're just a dull shade of
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  Speaker 2: whatever they were.
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  Speaker 7: Well, dorado, we're speaking. I know you're not gaffing sailfish.
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  Speaker 7: So we need to throw that in.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely need to mention that we let all the sailfish
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  Speaker 2: go with a billfish foundation tagging them.
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  Speaker 8: And when you gaff a wahoo or a dorado or
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  Speaker 8: a tuna.
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  Speaker 9: They just turn immediately when you bring them in the boat.
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  Speaker 2: They just fade to a dull shade of whatever they
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  Speaker 2: were as opposed to before. But the sailfish will stay
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  Speaker 2: that shade sometimes even after you bill them and you're
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  Speaker 2: holding them in the water reviving them, and sometimes they'll
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  Speaker 2: even turn more purple or the lines in them, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the vertical lines in them will light up even harder
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  Speaker 2: because they're stressed. When you grab them, they get a
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  Speaker 2: little bit frightened and the pigmentation changes to that purple
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  Speaker 2: or blue.
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  Speaker 8: It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: If I gave you one day here in one species,
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  Speaker 1: what would you be targeting personally?
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  Speaker 7: Tarpin?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would target tarpin because you can fish them
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  Speaker 2: so many different ways. You can fish them, unplug, fly,
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  Speaker 2: live bait, you control mullet, fish, shrimp, night.
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  Speaker 7: Day, and they're here year round.
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  Speaker 2: They're here year round, and they're so beautiful when they
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  Speaker 2: jump and shake their gills their armor plated, and just say,
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  Speaker 2: we had.
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  Speaker 1: That with you in June, man right at the boat.
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  Speaker 1: I've still got that video.
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  Speaker 2: Just such a gorgeous sight to see, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: five six foot hundred pound tarp and shaking those beautiful
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  Speaker 2: gill rakers in the sunlight of Miami.
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  Speaker 7: And you can hear them.
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  Speaker 8: You can hear them clacking, Yeah, you can't.
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  Speaker 9: You can hear them.
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  Speaker 1: How many people that you're dealing with right now and
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  Speaker 1: you just began your business in June, I think, right, well,
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  Speaker 1: well during the COVID unfortunately, but been going strong since June.
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  Speaker 7: I really want to target tarpin.
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  Speaker 2: I would say probably half of the people that I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it to would like to try it, but probably
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  Speaker 2: only ten percent asked me on the phone for tarpan,
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  Speaker 2: which is surprising to Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It may it may have to do with where they're from,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with their unfamiliarity. Actually, because everyone knows about
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  Speaker 1: bill fish obviously.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would say places in the world like Boca Grand
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  Speaker 2: Pass are famous for tarpan and people have no idea
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  Speaker 2: that we probably have a better fishery than Boca Grand
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  Speaker 2: Pass because you're not fishing in wall to wall boats.
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  Speaker 2: You're fishing by yourself. There's a lot less pressure, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And you know it's a little micro climate for tarpin right.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Okay, So I know folks can follow you on
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: social media right Instagram, Facebook.
• 14:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Instagram would be great.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: It's a b I E R E Y M O
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: N D at Aby Raymond on Instagram and Facebook.
• 14:57
  Speaker 8: I'm the same, just Aby Raymond.
• 14:59
  Speaker 7: And go hard fish.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Gohardfishing dot Com is my site and you can get
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: all my stuff on area.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, and you do inshore. I need to mention that
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: one of the things we've talked for years about. But
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: this ocean keeps calling me away. But I want to
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: come down and fish with you in these channels for
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: peacock bass.
• 15:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: I fish into urban canals here, the water management canals,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: and they're connected to lakes, and we throw for these
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: peacock bass in there with artificials and we fish live
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: bait for tarpin and snook and clown knifefish. And the
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: clown knifefish are from Sri Lanka and Thailand. They're unbelievable giant,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: oversized aquarium fish that swims backwards when you go to
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: netam and they jump like tarpin. They fight just like
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: a little mini tarp and they grow to about eleven
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: twelve pounds.
• 15:43
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: The peacock bass are unbelievably aggressive. They strike like a
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: saltwater fish wood and they'll dog you like a grouper
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: would when you're fighting them. So it's a heck of
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a good time back in there, and it's bizarre to
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: see a different side of Miami. And you're doing that
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: with a skiff, seventeen foot skiff back there and a
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: big oversized troller motor to scoot around in the lakes
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: and the canals, and it's just a strange place. Sometimes
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: you're fishing under a bridge next to a homeless man
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: and catching a five pound peacock bass on a fly rod.
• 16:11
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Well, look, our point is there's all different species and
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: all different types of fishing. You can do around this
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: area anything you'd want to do. And this guy does
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: all of them, So get in touch with Aby Raymond.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Captain Raymond, thanks for a great day here in Miami.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: A good way to open the Clark Eisenhower Outdoor. Addition
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: for a Thursday on the water with Captain A. Raymond
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: out of Miami. And by the way, since we take that,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: we did go on that little trip he was talking
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: about into the jungles of Inner Miami and it was
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: everything he said.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: It wasn't more.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Jackfish, tarpin, peacock bass, cichlids, clown knife fish.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many different species of fish we caught,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: but it's amazing. When you get back there, you do
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: feel like you're in the jungles of South America until
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: a big, you know, jet flies over your head.
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: But very little else.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Such a cool trip to take and probably won't get
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: to Brazil for peacock bass, but man, that came close.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: That was That was very cool with with cap maybe
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and hope to be back with him later in the spring.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: He's a favorite, as as you already know if you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: pay attention. Chambers County Game Wardens inspected a small vessel
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: with four people on board. This was last month, they
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: were found to have multiple water safety and resource violations.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: A large cooler found to be almost full to the
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: top with small black drum. After inspection, they were found
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to be in possession of thirty eight undersize black drum
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and exceeding the limit on those that were legal. Then
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a week before that, Chambers County Game warden operating a
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: drone while flying over public water, two male subjects observed
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: trespassing while fishing on private property. The warden contacted the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: subjects found them to be over their daily limit on
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: black drum, many of which undersized, as well as possession
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: of an undersized red. Citations issued, restitution pending. In other words,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: they will be billed for the fish. The state of
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: ten X's sets values on each fish, and not only
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: do you pay a fine, you pay per fish depending
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: on what they the value that's been put on them. October,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Galveston County Wardens patrolling West Galveston, they inspected three fishermen
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: on a pier. They were found to be in possession
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: of fifteen undersized trout. After further inspections of their coolers
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and buckets, an additional fifty seven trout, black drum and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: other species found citations pending, so unless you went to Richardson,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you may not be able to add up that seventy
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: two illegal fish, including undersized trout. Jefferson County Game Warden
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: inspected a vessel returning from offshore federal waters. Found two
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: individuals to be in violation and possession of redfish obtained
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in federal waters. Cases pending. Jefferson kind of Game warn
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: inspected two individuals fishing violations, found no fishing license and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: undersize black drum cases pending. I know people think this way.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, there aren't many wardens. There's a lot
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of us. There's a lot of water to cover, but
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they're out there. God bless them. They're writing tickets to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: stupid people. Don't be one of those people. I'm just saying,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: don't be one of those stupid people. Contender is a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: fourteen one foot sixteen hundred pound great white tracked off
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the coach the coast of Charleston last week after months
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: of eating seals in Canada. Researchers believe the thirty year
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: old shark is following his seasonal route back toward the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: warmer waters of Florida and Georgia. Transmitter sends a signal
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: only when the dorsal fin breaks the surface, which you
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: know isn't often. And October he made headlines and I
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: think we talked about this when his tracker pinged from
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the northern Gulf of Saint Lawrence off the Labrador Peninsula,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: making him one of the furthest northern pinging sharks that
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they have tagged the mature males, but the summer and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: fall feasting on seals to pack on fat before heading
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: south to the winter. I think we all do that,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: don't we feast on seals, pack on fat before heading
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: south for the winter. Chris Fisher, founder of O Search,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: says only a couple of made it that far north
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and animalill like that. Spending the summer and fall up north.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: What are they doing well, they're preparing for winter. He
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: added that contender's movements or a sign of recovery for
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a population once nearly wiped out. He said the sixties seventies,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: eighties we got down to nine percent population. Fisher and
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: his team closely watching contenders migration over the next few months.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: His position in early twenty twenty six could help pinpoint
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: where great whites mate. That is a discovery that's never
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: been made. Fisher said, it's really going to be interesting
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to watch.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: Contender this year.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I want to know where he will be in March
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and April. I think that could be a massive flue
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: for identifying where they mate. That's on the Atlantic side.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: On the Pacific side, they have a little better idea
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of that. I would say. I think we mentioned this
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: last week, but we're going to mention it again. Because
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the Parks and Wildlife are stocking thousands of rainbow trout.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: This is a great fish for kids. I will tell
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you again. They do that locally at the parks. You
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: could get on the Parks and Wildlife website and find
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: out when even the stockings are. They do it throughout
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the winter, up to over three hundred thousand rainbow trout
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: between November and March. They can't survive past that. You
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: have to keep it simple. I mean, like you're fishing
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: for perch, small hook if you want to use small hook, okay,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: light line, a small bobber, just like you're fishing for
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a little perch. Worms are good. They have little like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: marshmallow colored baits that are scented that can be good.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: So if you're going to take the kids out then
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: be aware of that, and you can go on the website.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: They do it in parks in the major cities. They
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: do it here stocking locations a dozen local city and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: county parts. These fish are good to eat, you can
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: keep them. You must know that kids under seventeen do
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: not require a fishing license, but there must be an
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: adult present with a fishing license and with a fresh
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: water fishing endorsement. Okay, that's very important. Five trout no
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: minimum length except on parts of the Guadalupe River where
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: they think trout not only survive, but they're thriving in
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: that area, and there's some huge drop in that area.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: But there are online schedules and I suggest that you
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: take advantage of those during the wintertime. Days like today
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: would have been perfect. Tomorrow, the same, Saturday, the same,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and see when they're stocking around here their schedules and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: go prepared. And the kids who have a great time
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and it's fishing. Sometimes the bite sometime they don't. But
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: they're great fighters and they're great tasting. They're easy to clean.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: And again five fish limit and everyone under seventeen can
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: fish free, but you must have a valid license. Okay,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: very important. You must have a valid fishing license. Don't
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: say I didn't warn you or tell you about that. Hey,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the folks that luck O Ranch, I don't know if
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: this is apocryphal or not.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: I have to talk to them.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: There was a story years ago about a gentleman who
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: had quite a bit of land nearby and created a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: little river running through it, oxygenated the water, cooled the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: water down and had trout in there. Now again, unless
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: it's really well refrigerated area, those trout certainly aren't gonna
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: last ye in one hundred degree summers.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: They need cool water.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: My point being, at Luco Ranch, they will create fantasies
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: for you, or they'll just create a simple fishing pond
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: for the kids and grandkids. They will stock it, they
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: will manage it. They will build you a lake or
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a pond. This is what they do every single day.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Fish management, fish stocking, electro fish surveys. They will clean
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: up your muddy pond, they will get the right amount
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of vegetation to your overgrowned pond, and they will put
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: species of fish in that you didn't even know you
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: had available to catch in this area.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: But you do.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: So.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: Give John and his staff.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: A call go online at Luco ranch dots dot com.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: It's spelled Lcchow Luckoange dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clark Eisenhower Outdoor Edition for Thursday.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Kirk Bowles with us Tomorrow, Ryan in tomorrow Writers Roundtable.
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: On Monday.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: We'll have a playoff football game to preview for you
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: on Monday. A social media influencer with a history of
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: unscrupulous wildlife related behavior is under new scrutiny for falsifying
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: her residency to hunt big game in Wyoming. Samantha Strabel
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: gained notoriety earlier this year for grabbing a baby wombat
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: off the side of the road in Australia, a move
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that brought on a slew of public backlash from her
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: social media followers. In the now deleted video, she snatches
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the animal and runs back to her car with.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: The mother in pursuit.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: She holds it for about a minute and then lets
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: it go back into a ditch on the roadside. In
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: addition to the backlash, the incident brought to light other
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: wildlife crimes that she may have committed in the last
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: several years. Wyoming Game and Fish Department received an anonymous
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: tip that Strabel was purchasing big game tags in Wyoming
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: despite not having lived in the state for several years.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: To qualify for resident licenses in Wyoming, individual has to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: reside there for a year cannot leave for more than
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty days into calendar year. Warden Jacob
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Miller found her to have allegedly been in violation of
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: all those statues. According to an affidavit obtained by local
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: news outlet Cowboy State Daily, Miller discovered Strabel held an
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Alaska driver's license, had been working and living in Australia, Alaska, Montana,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: North Dakota, spent only a few weeks a year in Wyoming.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: In fact, she admitted it much in an interview with
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the newspaper, which was published to showcase the young hunter's accomplishments.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Strabel told the reporter she worked as a seasonal wildlife
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: technician in Wyoming during the summers, but took off to travel,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: work and hunt in other countries during the off season.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I can't stand six month winter, she said, so I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: headed a southern hemisphere in November. December, she reported having
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: hunting red snag in red stag in Chile, wallabies, chammis Hamelian,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Himalayan tar wild pigs in New Zealand on a pig hunt.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: She said her team used dogs to corner the animals
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: and knives mounted on long sticks to kill them by hand.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: None of those stopped her from claiming a residency in
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Wyoming and killing a handful of animals every fall before
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: taking off for greener pastures. In twenty twenty four, she
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: drew resident elk and antelope tags and filled in both.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: In twenty five, she killed a mountain lion purchased a
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: resident black bear tag. In August, same day an anonymous
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: tip was received, she bought a Wyoming resident general elk tag,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: but used a Montana mailing address. In November, a few
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, for following Warden Miller's investigation, Strabel was booked
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: into Sublette County Jail, charged with eight misdemeanors, including counts
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of poaching wildlife, fall, swearing under oath, hunting a wilderness
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: area as a non resident without a guide in that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: time of the conduct, she has deleted all her social
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: media accounts. Reportedly, she had around ninety five thousand followers
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and was known for posting about hunting and fishing trips,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: including illegal Wyoming hunts. The post beginning with the wombat video.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Probably got her in trouble after filming a notorious video
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: in Australia. An online petition calling for her deportation received
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: forty eight thousand signatures, and the Australian Minister of Home
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Affairs said he was investigating whether her visa could be revoked.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Strabil left Australia on her own before that could happen,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: but her reputation preceded her to Wyoming, leading to the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: tip regarding her questionable residency status. If convicted of the charges,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Strable could face several thousand dollars in fine and potential
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: prison time. Finds up to ten thousand dollars illegally hunting
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: wilderness areas, thousand dollars poaching charges, ten thousand dollars revoked
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: hunting license, which needs to happen.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Of course, As.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Always, the story says they're innocent until proven guilty, but
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: her Southern Hemisphere trips may be on pause for a
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: little while. Meanwhile, there's this strange ways to die. A
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Michigan resident died of rabies after receiving having a kidney
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: from a donor who had also succumbed to the disease.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: The donor in Idaho man had been scratched by a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: skunk while trying to protect a kitten. Well, that's his
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: first problem. The Michigan patient received a kidney transplant December
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: of last year. After five weeks Trimmer's weakness, confusion, other
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: symptoms after being hospitalized, placed on a ventilator, later died.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Post Mortem tests confirmed rabies, which puzzled the authorities, who
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: said he'd had no exposure to animals. Investigations revealed the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: donor had been scratched by a skunk during a protective
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: encounter with a kitten. Although he did not believe he
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: had been bitten, he had been bleeding scratch on his skin.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Following that, began showing signs of confusion difficulty swallowing. He
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: was found unresponsive a couple of days later, declared brain dead.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they ended up using this kidney,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: but they did so. Basically, the skunk killed two people. Hey,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: get them before.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: They get you.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: People, even if they're not trying, they are killing you.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: So get them before they get you, capiche. All Right,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: We're going to go back and listen to an interview
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I did. It's been a couple of three years with
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a favorite. Taylor Strike's a Hall of Fame fly fisherman,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: an author. He's been on our show many times. We
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: have fished with him many times over the years. We're
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: in Taos, New Mexico Outdoor Edition and we're visiting with
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame fly fisherman Taylor Streit. Taylor has one
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of the I think one of the better gigs. You
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: can sit down, you don't have to stand up for me.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: This is radio. You kind of are the unofficial official
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: scout of New Water for the Talis Fly Shop.
• 38:07
  Speaker 15: Indeed, I am.
• 38:08
  Speaker 16: Yes, nobody's actually asked me to do that, I but
• 38:12
  Speaker 16: I do it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't imagine there's water within one hundred and
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: fifty or two hundred miles of here that you haven't
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: fished before.
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: Well, I'm actually also working on a book that I've
• 38:24
  Speaker 16: been working on for a while for a while, which
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: is ties right into that because it's an in depth
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: book of fishing northern New Mexico fly fishing north of
• 38:37
  Speaker 16: New Mexico.
• 38:37
  Speaker 15: So it all fits in. And also, you know, I
• 38:44
  Speaker 15: like being out.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Are you ever surprised at some areas you go to
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: either a you've been there before and it's changed or
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: be you occasionally find these gyms that you've never found before.
• 38:57
  Speaker 16: That's a great question, because something I think about almost
• 39:01
  Speaker 16: every day, because one reason the book has taken me
• 39:06
  Speaker 16: so long is that if I just had managed to
• 39:09
  Speaker 16: do it in a year or two, there wouldn't be
• 39:13
  Speaker 16: all these changes, right, And so you know, whether it's
• 39:16
  Speaker 16: climate change or or land status change.
• 39:21
  Speaker 15: Or what else is there?
• 39:24
  Speaker 16: You know, water rights, Yeah, a myriad of things that
• 39:31
  Speaker 16: you just would never think of, you know, that occur
• 39:34
  Speaker 16: to these these waters that have to be updated.
• 39:38
  Speaker 15: So I'm updating the book as I go. I'm so
• 39:40
  Speaker 15: slow at it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: So well, I know there's a lot more people around,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that's a fact. The rivers are more crowded, the lakes
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: are more crowded, so there's more pressure on the fish.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: And I know you spend some of your time battling
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: let's say, government officials who may not have the interest
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: of the outdoors person and fly fishermen at heart.
• 40:03
  Speaker 16: Well they're supposed to, one would think, But then you
• 40:07
  Speaker 16: come to realize what their motivations are to keep their job,
• 40:11
  Speaker 16: to keep their job, to not make any waves. You know,
• 40:15
  Speaker 16: I kind of get the feeling that and you know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 16: and I talk to other people in the outdoor business
• 40:20
  Speaker 16: and stuff, and we all kind of like, I think
• 40:23
  Speaker 16: most everybody in the outdoor business has this bottom line,
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: which is what's best for the environment and what you know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 16: it's like the unwritten like bottom line.
• 40:34
  Speaker 15: When you get the government, it don't.
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: Seem to work that way, and it seems to be,
• 40:40
  Speaker 16: you know, like you think maybe there's a big sign
• 40:42
  Speaker 16: as you walk into the office it says, don't irritate
• 40:45
  Speaker 16: the boss today, tomorrow, or ever. And you know they
• 40:51
  Speaker 16: try and smooth everything out. Oh no, everything's just going
• 40:54
  Speaker 16: fine with that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: What's the biggest issue you see right now that you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: spending time on.
• 41:01
  Speaker 16: Well, the New Mexico Game of Fish has these properties,
• 41:05
  Speaker 16: and they don't they won't stand up for the properties,
• 41:11
  Speaker 16: and so somebody comes in and buys like they have leases.
• 41:15
  Speaker 16: So somebody comes in and buys the property. But they're
• 41:20
  Speaker 16: and they should know when they buy the property that
• 41:24
  Speaker 16: it's got an agreement that the publican fish there in perpetuity.
• 41:29
  Speaker 16: But that quickly falls by the wayside because the game
• 41:37
  Speaker 16: warden or whoever it might be, they seem to be
• 41:41
  Speaker 16: kind of intimidated, not kind of definitely intimidated by people
• 41:45
  Speaker 16: with money by you know, one of them person I'm
• 41:49
  Speaker 16: thinking of one of the landowners as a lawyer, and
• 41:52
  Speaker 16: you know that really got oh, we can't do nothing then,
• 41:55
  Speaker 16: you know, so because they won't go to court. They
• 41:58
  Speaker 16: won't They just you know, bend over. So yeah, and
• 42:04
  Speaker 16: I get so caught up on it and so frustrated
• 42:09
  Speaker 16: by it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I know, in Colorado, where your brother owns a shop,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, boy, it seems to me public access is.
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: Really narrower and narrower.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Every time I go up there. In terms of trying
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to get on a river. I know that you don't
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: want it to be that in New Mexico.
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: Well, but it is and it's becoming.
• 42:31
  Speaker 16: So now there's a big push in New Mexico and
• 42:35
  Speaker 16: with a new governor and a new game commission to
• 42:41
  Speaker 16: make all streams in New Mexico public fishing, so that
• 42:45
  Speaker 16: you could start on this is the way, say, Argentina
• 42:48
  Speaker 16: is where I used to take people fishing them for
• 42:52
  Speaker 16: a long time, excuse me. And so there's this big
• 42:57
  Speaker 16: push to make everything public and point I would like
• 43:01
  Speaker 16: to make if anybody would ask me, this doesn't seem
• 43:04
  Speaker 16: to happen I'm usually too out spoken for anybody to
• 43:09
  Speaker 16: except for you, jip, But is that what's happening is
• 43:14
  Speaker 16: these properties streams are getting.
• 43:17
  Speaker 15: Bought by very wealthy people.
• 43:20
  Speaker 16: They are taken out of any kind of sector. You know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 16: if if they try and if they sell the fishing,
• 43:29
  Speaker 16: like we take people fishing on private stuff and there's
• 43:32
  Speaker 16: one hundred dollars. One hundred dollars doesn't mean anything. It
• 43:35
  Speaker 16: means something to a farmer, right, but it doesn't mean
• 43:37
  Speaker 16: anything to the people that are buying these properties. So
• 43:40
  Speaker 16: what's happened is all these streams are getting bought up
• 43:42
  Speaker 16: and taken out of circulation for the foreseeable future. But
• 43:49
  Speaker 16: if there was such a law, then there would be
• 43:53
  Speaker 16: probably a lot less of that, yes, and and so.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: So you're kind of you're fighting for that right now,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: are you? Are you optimistic or not?
• 44:03
  Speaker 16: Well, I'm I'm on this other thing. I'm I'm in
• 44:06
  Speaker 16: a smaller scale. There's this piece of water over in Trauma.
• 44:09
  Speaker 15: That that that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 16: You probably have fished, and it's it's gotten posted and
• 44:15
  Speaker 16: bought bought by somebody, and just that so I'm kind
• 44:18
  Speaker 16: of working on a.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: But on one thing at a time. Right, You got
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: to go one stretch of river at a time.
• 44:23
  Speaker 16: Yeah, and not that other thing is too. You know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 16: I'm not in any kind of position really too. But
• 44:28
  Speaker 16: I well, if I ever get this book out, I
• 44:31
  Speaker 16: would be I can, I can, I can put my
• 44:33
  Speaker 16: two cents in there.
• 44:34
  Speaker 15: And I know that my current.
• 44:37
  Speaker 16: Book of fly Fishing New Mexico, which is you know,
• 44:40
  Speaker 16: sold forty thousand copies, is kind of the authority on
• 44:46
  Speaker 16: what's public and what's not, and people use.
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: It for that.
• 44:51
  Speaker 16: The Game Fish Department doesn't attend to it. So you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 16: I've had people say that you know, that's that's the authority,
• 45:00
  Speaker 16: which I go, me, what, And so I've had to
• 45:04
  Speaker 16: take that into account and go, well, you're going to
• 45:07
  Speaker 16: be the only voice here, so you know you need
• 45:09
  Speaker 16: to get this right. And uh so, because there's there's
• 45:15
  Speaker 16: uh these properties that are public access that the Game
• 45:21
  Speaker 16: Fish Department doesn't even know they have.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: So how would you describe the overall state of fishing?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I realized it's a broad question today as we sit
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: here today in northern New Mexico.
• 45:34
  Speaker 16: I'd say it's really never been better, really, yeah, and
• 45:40
  Speaker 16: and and why is that?
• 45:41
  Speaker 15: And I had, well, I had a.
• 45:43
  Speaker 16: Thing in the Albuquerque Journal a year or two ago,
• 45:46
  Speaker 16: and I and they can be pretty uh what's the
• 45:51
  Speaker 16: word risky in what they print. And so when I said, okay,
• 45:56
  Speaker 16: I'm doing a talk and I want somebody to be there,
• 46:00
  Speaker 16: called the upside of global warming.
• 46:03
  Speaker 15: So what it was.
• 46:05
  Speaker 16: Was that the rais and temperature has been has made
• 46:12
  Speaker 16: fishing in these parts better, the seasons longer, it's almost
• 46:19
  Speaker 16: I mean, we can catch fish twelve months a year.
• 46:22
  Speaker 16: And ah, but if you looked at say southern New
• 46:30
  Speaker 16: Mexico or the HeLa, uh, that's it's it's you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 16: that's a different story. And who knows how long that'll be.
• 46:38
  Speaker 16: Because I'm not I'm definitely not a denier of you know,
• 46:42
  Speaker 16: I think it'll we better. Let's put it this way,
• 46:45
  Speaker 16: we better fish it now. Well that's good before it
• 46:49
  Speaker 16: gets too hot. But as it stands now so many
• 46:53
  Speaker 16: streams are in great condition. But I see more and
• 46:57
  Speaker 16: more growth in the water, you know, a sign of
• 47:04
  Speaker 16: degradation and things like that.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: And so it seems to me that fishermen are more
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: aware of what's going on these days. Uh uh, there's
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: more information out there just in terms of preserving what
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: they have and trying to to leave it better than
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: they found it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and it's in writing a guide book.
• 47:26
  Speaker 16: You kind of got that juggling thing where you're where
• 47:29
  Speaker 16: you're sending people to a spot that you know.
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: In some cases you know.
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: What I'm being at.
• 47:35
  Speaker 16: Yeah, in some and uh, in some cases you you
• 47:41
  Speaker 16: you want to. I just wrote about one place which
• 47:44
  Speaker 16: I won't mention his name. I went, oh, nobody fishes there.
• 47:50
  Speaker 15: I've got to I've got to.
• 47:52
  Speaker 16: Uh think about this, and then I and then I
• 47:54
  Speaker 16: went something, which is the truth. I said, well, you've
• 47:57
  Speaker 16: got to make a lot of casts to catch a
• 48:00
  Speaker 16: It's going.
• 48:01
  Speaker 15: To be big, but you got to make a lot
• 48:03
  Speaker 15: of casts.
• 48:04
  Speaker 16: So I was trying to tone it down a little bit,
• 48:08
  Speaker 16: so you know, I wasn't the one responsible for this
• 48:11
  Speaker 16: big mass of people going there.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I want to go back where I started in that
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: is there water around that is surprising you Sometimes as
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: you scout, as you drive all over this part of
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the country looking for different spots, have you been surprised
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: at what you found the last year or two.
• 48:31
  Speaker 16: Well, the actually the surprise has not been It's not
• 48:38
  Speaker 16: been from me because it's all the guides have been
• 48:41
  Speaker 16: fishing there so I don't need to go there and
• 48:42
  Speaker 16: scout it because we know.
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: What it is.
• 48:44
  Speaker 15: And that's the real grant.
• 48:46
  Speaker 16: Because we've had this situation with otters being put in
• 48:50
  Speaker 16: and I even made a big pitch about the negative
• 48:58
  Speaker 16: thing about it eat a lot of fish.
• 49:00
  Speaker 15: Well, yeah, and you can't find much negative about otters.
• 49:03
  Speaker 15: I'll tell you what.
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: People love them. They're very cute.
• 49:05
  Speaker 15: I googled, you know, there was like man attack by otter,
• 49:09
  Speaker 15: but yeah, nothing, you know, and.
• 49:12
  Speaker 16: If you read research on otters, you can pretty much
• 49:15
  Speaker 16: throw a whole PhD's paper away when it says they
• 49:18
  Speaker 16: don't like to taste the trout, because.
• 49:21
  Speaker 15: There's a whole lot of that.
• 49:22
  Speaker 16: There's a whole lot of like, you know, they really
• 49:24
  Speaker 16: like spawning trout is what they really like. And the
• 49:27
  Speaker 16: bigger the better. So they were causing a big of
• 49:33
  Speaker 16: having a big effect on the spawning. Yes, rainbows of
• 49:36
  Speaker 16: very large rainbows in the Red River that came out
• 49:40
  Speaker 16: of the Rio Grand a couple of years ago. But
• 49:42
  Speaker 16: with the super low water last year, they didn't come back.
• 49:46
  Speaker 16: And the fishing on the when I started before I
• 49:51
  Speaker 16: interrupted myself, is that the fishing on the Rear Grand
• 49:54
  Speaker 16: is last year was just stellar, incredibly good.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: And you got to fish it early in a long
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: time because it was a dry year, right, right, This
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: year's just.
• 50:05
  Speaker 15: Opposite, right, right, This year's just in the long run.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: Will that be good for the river?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I mean there's not people down there, they can't fish
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: it right now.
• 50:13
  Speaker 16: I would assume, yeah, they'll make it through the Yeah,
• 50:15
  Speaker 16: they don't mind the runoff. You know, they get skinny
• 50:18
  Speaker 16: and whatnot. But you know, they grab around on the
• 50:21
  Speaker 16: bottom and they eat things. But apparently that otter thing,
• 50:27
  Speaker 16: Apparently the otters are very good for the Rio Grande
• 50:30
  Speaker 16: and they've eliminated a lot of the competition that trout have,
• 50:33
  Speaker 16: like a carp pike and other fish that did eat
• 50:39
  Speaker 16: the same thing.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: So right now it's turned out Okay.
• 50:42
  Speaker 15: It's turned out great.
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 16: So you know, I mean, you get a lot of
• 50:50
  Speaker 16: those animals and you gotta I'm just trying to report
• 50:54
  Speaker 16: what we find out, right, and you know, it was
• 50:57
  Speaker 16: negative and then it's positive, and you know, it's like
• 51:01
  Speaker 16: we're like science.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: It's the balance we both know is so delicate, right,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I mean people talk about it all the time, but
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: it's very delicate.
• 51:13
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's like you just Gottah. And unfortunately, if you
• 51:19
  Speaker 16: ask the government, they'll always say that they know we
• 51:23
  Speaker 16: have studies on them. You know that they don't because
• 51:26
  Speaker 16: for instance, in the Rio Grande they can't carry all
• 51:30
  Speaker 16: the gear in there, and it's a big deal.
• 51:31
  Speaker 15: And we know about it when they do it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: And so you know.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so where you headed next, there's always a stream,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: there's always a lake, there's always a place you're looking for.
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: Which direction are you headed west?
• 51:47
  Speaker 15: I'm kind of going with the flows.
• 51:48
  Speaker 16: I look at the every fishing guide looks as flow rates,
• 51:53
  Speaker 16: as you say, which.
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: Have been really high because of the late runoff, right.
• 51:55
  Speaker 16: But now they're getting just right. And so so we
• 52:02
  Speaker 16: are fishing over around Chama quite a bit and those
• 52:05
  Speaker 16: flows are are are looking good. At it does look
• 52:08
  Speaker 16: like we lost some fish in the Trauma system. There
• 52:10
  Speaker 16: was a whole lot of big fish there last year,
• 52:12
  Speaker 16: and I didn't think the really low water would sustain
• 52:17
  Speaker 16: that that that population. It does look like we lost some,
• 52:20
  Speaker 16: but it's still.
• 52:20
  Speaker 15: Well worth fishing.
• 52:21
  Speaker 16: But but and then I'm going to go over and
• 52:25
  Speaker 16: try the Navajo River on the Hickorea Indian Reservation.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, see this guy's he's got a pretty good gig
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: And plus plus you don't have to guide people like
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: me anymore.
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: Well, you're sleeping better.
• 52:37
  Speaker 15: At noighting is tough.
• 52:38
  Speaker 16: But the problem is is I'm pretty well worn out
• 52:41
  Speaker 16: of fishing.
• 52:42
  Speaker 15: It's like work, you know. I'd rather catfish and.
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: Like, uh with a with a worm and a bobber.
• 52:48
  Speaker 15: Put a bell on the road and go to sleep.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: Unfortunately, I know what you're saying. Uh, okay, So when's the.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Buck coming out?
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: The book?
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: Any day?
• 52:58
  Speaker 15: Now?
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: Any day?
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: Okay?
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: So when it comes out, you're gonna come on and
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: talk about it. Oh, you're gonna send me a copy?
• 53:04
  Speaker 15: I'd love to.
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, do you have a title for it yet?
• 53:07
  Speaker 16: Or that's going to be called for want of a
• 53:09
  Speaker 16: better title, that's not the way to start a pitch.
• 53:14
  Speaker 16: But it's going to be called fly Fishing Tows in
• 53:16
  Speaker 16: Santa Fe. And that's because fly Fishing Nordon, New Mexico's
• 53:20
  Speaker 16: take in fly Fishing New Mexico's taken. So anyway, but
• 53:26
  Speaker 16: that pretty well, that's where the people are. That's not
• 53:29
  Speaker 16: necessarily the fish, but that's where the peat, the clients
• 53:32
  Speaker 16: and fishermen come from.
• 53:34
  Speaker 15: So you know, there you go.
• 53:36
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