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Patriots Unfiltered 2/10: Super Bowl Picks, Role of Joe Judge, Jerod Mayo / Matthew Judon on Radio Row · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Patriots and Filtered. It's Thursday here at Gilette Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and we're getting close to the big game, the big Game,
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Um, I don't even know what number it is.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty six already, man, we're getting old huh y old. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna do our pick later today, don't have
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  Speaker 1: to really hurry. So I saw something, you know, fifty
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  Speaker 1: six right, this is the fifty sixth Super Bowl. And
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  Speaker 1: how many teams have won a Super Bowl? There's thirty
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  Speaker 1: two teams in the league. How many of the thirty
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  Speaker 1: two have won a Super Bowl? Twenty twenty eight? Question?
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  Speaker 1: Is that right? I don't know. I'm guessing. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think twenty. I think it's more like twenty. Wow. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that's a pretty low number, really, fifty five super Bowls,
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  Speaker 1: only twenty teams. But back in two thousand, you know
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  Speaker 1: when before we had won it, that number was really
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  Speaker 1: even even a lot lower than that. And then lately,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, more teams have come on, like, well,
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  Speaker 1: who's won it since the last twenty years? Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 1: Patriot we were one Tampa Tampa Bay. Yeah, um yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh won, Baltimore Waltimore. Point is a lot of multiple
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl winners? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean Patriots, six Steelers six, nine Ers five? How
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  Speaker 1: Boys Cowboys five? Right? Glad he said Pittsburgh six, because
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  Speaker 1: I actually was thinking of that too, and I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking back to our our nonsensical argument about who you
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  Speaker 1: root against? Yeah, because I know you guys don't ever
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  Speaker 1: root for anybody. You just root against the team that
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  Speaker 1: that's right, That's right. The watch Pittsburgh played Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, who'd you root for? I rooted for Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: So it didn't have anything to do with the Patriots then,
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  Speaker 1: because Pittsburgh could have won the Super Bowl and seven. Friend,
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  Speaker 1: I would have worried about that at the time. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I didn't get m out there. Ye all right,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't think that I didn't think about it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: not get ahead of ourselves overhete Yeah, and I should
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  Speaker 1: go to the hate room. Yes, so, well, so Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: would be twenty one then if they Cinnati has a
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  Speaker 1: chance to be UM twenty one if they went so
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  Speaker 1: we'll be talking about the big Game, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: some of the other things that have been happening. Gard
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  Speaker 1: Mayo making the rounds um I thought he had some
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  Speaker 1: interesting things to say a lot on different topics, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and your guy Felger. Um, I thought Felger and Mas
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  Speaker 1: asked him some good questions I think they asked, Yeah, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they had judeon who and Mayo Beatle and Zoe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so they asked him some good questions about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the structure and the communication and things that you know
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  Speaker 1: we've been wondering about for you. And you know, Mayo
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  Speaker 1: had his answers, you know about you know how Bill
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  Speaker 1: has never been big with titles. So I went and
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  Speaker 1: did some research starting with two thousand, every year who
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  Speaker 1: was the O C, who was the DC? And Bill's
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  Speaker 1: been you know, fairly consistent about like I thought right
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  Speaker 1: from the beginning, because he was kind of a new coach,
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  Speaker 1: you know and coming off bad Cleveland experience, that he
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  Speaker 1: would always have a DCoC at least the beginning. But
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  Speaker 1: that first year he didn't have a name DC. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, basically I think he was and then Cronell
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  Speaker 1: took over for many years after that. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously Weiss was the oc UM and then on and
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  Speaker 1: then in O five, Uh, he didn't have an OC right,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Josh was kind of probably it, but he was
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  Speaker 1: being groomed and you know, Uh, he had right away.
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  Speaker 1: He went from Cornell to Mangini as a name DC,
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  Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of interesting, like and how
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  Speaker 1: long had Mangini been in the program? I mean since
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland he was with Cleveland. That yeah, that's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: So he tried in him. Then a O six, McDaniels
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  Speaker 1: got named it, and then Peace came in and peas
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  Speaker 1: right away, I think because of his experience. He was
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  Speaker 1: DC right away for four years, um, and and then
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  Speaker 1: McDaniels was OC until he left. And then at O
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  Speaker 1: nine Deli O'Brien came, but he wasn't named right OC
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  Speaker 1: for two years right um. And then in ten UM
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  Speaker 1: there was still no named OC and there was no
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  Speaker 1: name DC, both both titles. Right. That's when Maddie pe
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  Speaker 1: kind of started taking Patricia was the linebackers coach, but
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't named it right and then uh, and then
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  Speaker 1: at eleven O'Brien got named the offensive coordinator. Still no DC,
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  Speaker 1: no name DC. Until twelve they named Patricia the DC,
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  Speaker 1: and uh. He remained DC until eighteen. So you had
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  Speaker 1: named O C and d C up until eighteen, right, Well, eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: McDaniels was still here and then since then, no DC,
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  Speaker 1: no name coach right now, I thought that this is
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  Speaker 1: interesting too. I thought anyway, In eighteen Flores was the
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  Speaker 1: linebackers coach and Steve Belichick was the safety's coach. In
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  Speaker 1: nineteen Mayo, you know, Flora's left right, So Mayo became
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  Speaker 1: the linebacker coach and Steve Belichick was the secondary slash
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  Speaker 1: safety's coach. He's kind of now. In twenty Mayo became
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  Speaker 1: the inside linebacker coach and Steve Belichick became the outside
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  Speaker 1: linebacker coach, and Brian Belichick took over the safeties. So
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  Speaker 1: let's starting getting in there. And then, um, that's the
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  Speaker 1: way it remained for twenty one, you know. Yeah, so,
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  Speaker 1: and I think there's a reasonable chance it's going to
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  Speaker 1: remain that way in twenty two. Yeah. Defensively, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: would seem like defensive I don't know. I'd be curious
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  Speaker 1: to dig a little deeper on when they actually did
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  Speaker 1: promote guys, did you just throw that he did? Here's
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  Speaker 1: my reason, Uh, if it was if it was coupled
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  Speaker 1: with bringing in some younger coaches to like fill those roles,
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  Speaker 1: and then he gets bumped. Whereas you know, so far,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't seen any young young guys come in. So
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't really seem, like Paul said, doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 1: signs are pointing towards people getting elevated. But um, but
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  Speaker 1: this is the longest stretch that we've had a coordinate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't had a defensive coordinator since I got here.
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  Speaker 1: Come crazy, And I think it's it's it's because of
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  Speaker 1: Steve and GRD. He can't just name Steve. I think
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  Speaker 1: he wants the names. So Tom Curran had something I
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  Speaker 1: thought was interesting yesterday on UM your station. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't appear on that station anymore, although I do didcast.
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  Speaker 1: But Tom Curran said that it was his understanding that
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  Speaker 1: he had a desire to name them co defensive coordinators.
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  Speaker 1: And there was some pushback because one was far more
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  Speaker 1: deserving than the other. And that's that's how we left it,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why they decided to just leave it the
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  Speaker 1: way it was. And I think internally Bill probably thinks
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  Speaker 1: Steve is more deserving than the other because of his
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  Speaker 1: experience as a coach, and and you know, based on
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  Speaker 1: the way Karen talked, I think it was Mayo who
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  Speaker 1: gave the pushback. That's all I'm doing up the two.
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  Speaker 1: Probably Mayo felt that, but I bet to Bill probably thinks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my son's been doing this since he was
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  Speaker 1: five years old, actually played in he's only being he's
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  Speaker 1: my son, and he's been doing it since he's five,
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  Speaker 1: So that counts his experience. It does, No, it doesn't. Well,
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  Speaker 1: even if you don't count, what if he wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: son and he was doing it since he was five,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't count been either. Why because he's not a
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  Speaker 1: co right, No, I know, but he's been around it
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  Speaker 1: and been doing it his whole life, right like game,
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  Speaker 1: I do think it's the same. I think I don't
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  Speaker 1: care forget about him being well that Mayo has done
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. He's played. What's the difference. He hasn't coached,
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  Speaker 1: neither has Steve Belichick. But you give him credit for coaching.
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  Speaker 1: But I do give him. But even you throw the
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  Speaker 1: kids stuff out. He's been here since what twenty eleven twelve?
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  Speaker 1: I mean you just mentioned Josh. Josh was here O
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  Speaker 1: one by oh five, he was the de facto offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: going from an assistant. So I mean, I do see
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  Speaker 1: like Steve's got a bunch of experience. I mean Maine
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. Like, maybe not the time exactly lines up,
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  Speaker 1: But I mean Steve's don't here a listen forget about
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  Speaker 1: what how good you think he is? He's put in
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  Speaker 1: the time, Yeah you know, I mean he's in time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any criticism of his caliber of coach
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  Speaker 1: because I have absolutely no idea, right I don't, And
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  Speaker 1: that's and that's I don't even I think people get unfair,
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  Speaker 1: Right I don't either, and that's and that's a I
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  Speaker 1: mean something we can't really know. But what what does
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  Speaker 1: Mayo's playing experience give him as a coach. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly valuable, certainly has value to the coaching staff,
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  Speaker 1: that he's been out there, that he's done it, that
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  Speaker 1: he's alway praised as a smart player. But I do
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  Speaker 1: think there's something to be said that Steve has been
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  Speaker 1: around and coach various position groups and seeing different things,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, I think it probably meets about at
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  Speaker 1: the same place, you know, like a guy who played
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  Speaker 1: the NFL and knows versus I didn't play Bounce experience
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  Speaker 1: as a player it definitely counts. But I sy I'm
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  Speaker 1: surprised to think that Mayo coaching for three years and
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  Speaker 1: playing for however, many played that that right really qualifies
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  Speaker 1: as a lot like I don't know, it still seems
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  Speaker 1: to me like he's a young coach and that he's
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  Speaker 1: yeah learning, both of them are. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Mayo had some interesting things to say, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: Zoe and Beatle about you know, they asked him about
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing, and he said, listen, you know, actually,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we the guys spend more time with their
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  Speaker 1: position coaches than they do with the court, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with as as a as a you know, a defensive unit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so it really doesn't matter. M but you know,
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  Speaker 1: he did say that it's it's important to have that
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  Speaker 1: one you know, line of communication. You know. So he
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  Speaker 1: made it out like it's not a big deal, you know, Judon, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he's also I'm sorry, yeah, Judean, Jude. I keep
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  Speaker 1: asking sometimes Gerard le Mayo, sometimes Steve does It's um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he he didn't make a big deal out
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  Speaker 1: of it, but I mean I did enjoy just the
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  Speaker 1: felgron mass. I love that they get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: ask Matthew Judon questions directly because I think they asked
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  Speaker 1: them good questions and they have all these things that
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  Speaker 1: they talk about all year that you never really get
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  Speaker 1: answers on, and you know, for them to get some clarity.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was it was good. Yeah, so Judean
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  Speaker 1: said like, it's not a big deal. It wasn't an issue. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They also asked him about why he fell off the cliff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, were you were you injured? I loved that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I loved Judon's answer. Yeah, I don't care if he
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  Speaker 1: was hurt and he's lying, right. I love the answer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I got a football injuries. But everybody
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  Speaker 1: has that, but I have no excuse. I loved that.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta find a way, you know. And he tried
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  Speaker 1: to say that as a defense. Too many guys individually,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to be the guy who was the playmaker. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: I think was how we worded it, and that that's
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  Speaker 1: why the dean, I'm gonna make this play on and
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  Speaker 1: make that place to do your job thing. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: everybody trying to do their own thing and make plays.
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  Speaker 1: I just I mean, I couldn't help. But wonder who
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  Speaker 1: you know, because if Judon is the new guy and
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  Speaker 1: he's got that observation like you wouldn't expect that from
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  Speaker 1: high Tower van Noy, the guys who have been around
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  Speaker 1: that that know the system. M M Paul doing something
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  Speaker 1: with his head. You watch the game, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think you see? But I mean, for all the things
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  Speaker 1: that they said, right, it didn't really leave me feeling better.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with the Mayo and Mayo's whole thing response
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  Speaker 1: to Rodney of you know, hey we finished third in
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  Speaker 1: points and YadA, YadA, YadA, and yeah you did. But yeah, specifically,
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  Speaker 1: Rodney had specifically said something about there, they're not only there,
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  Speaker 1: they're slow, but they're not Yeah, who's gonna go hit
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen and send a message? And he that's what Mayo,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sort of shot back at Rodney about a
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  Speaker 1: little bit sorry. When you don't stop the run for
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  Speaker 1: like three years in a row, you're a little soft
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  Speaker 1: and also physical. I don't I don't care about the
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  Speaker 1: numbers because you know, we saw how they were skewed.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you had a shutout against the Falcons, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and things like that when you played the good teams
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  Speaker 1: down the road, Yeah, you didn't do well. And he
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  Speaker 1: did kind of admit to that though. Yeah, afterward, like
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  Speaker 1: he was. His thing was like, you know, we're not
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  Speaker 1: soft because you know, just because we're not hitting people
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  Speaker 1: after the play or after the whistle. And so that
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  Speaker 1: was his like impression of Rodney saying that they were
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  Speaker 1: soft was that you have to be extra career, which
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a little peaked behind the curtain
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  Speaker 1: of what he thinks of Rodney, right exactly. I had
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  Speaker 1: the same thought with all them. I don't think this
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  Speaker 1: soft either. I just think they were in the wrong place.
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  Speaker 1: But he also admitted that like against RPOs and running quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: they struggled. Yeah, so he kind of head to put
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  Speaker 1: you in a dilemma. Yes, on the field, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're overly physical though I'm not saying soft, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're an overly physical front. I think
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  Speaker 1: they get pushed around. I think Tennessee pushed them around
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  Speaker 1: that day. Yeah. Yeah, I mean as as good as
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  Speaker 1: Judon was early on and never felt like he was
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  Speaker 1: this physical edge setting presence um. But this kind of
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  Speaker 1: gets around, like this big point I keep kind of
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  Speaker 1: thinking about and what does it say about a team?
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  Speaker 1: And I would throw out kind of Dallas in Tampa
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  Speaker 1: two games that they lost, but they were competitive in
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  Speaker 1: But otherwise it's a team that just absolutely destroyed bad
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  Speaker 1: teams and had nothing against good teams down the stretch.
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  Speaker 1: What does that say about the stress? And I would
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  Speaker 1: say defensively, the only game that they played reasonably well
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  Speaker 1: defensively against a good team was the Tampa game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because Dallas put what Dallas dominated that game but just
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  Speaker 1: kept turning it over. Right, But but still that could
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  Speaker 1: probably they they held Tampa in check that night, and
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  Speaker 1: they certainly gave the team a chance to win defensively.
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  Speaker 1: But just how that's absolutely just stomp the field with
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  Speaker 1: teams like Atlanta and you know, the Jets and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and then these are teams that throughout the season pulled
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  Speaker 1: out some wins here and there. I mean, they weren't
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  Speaker 1: completely inept all the time. I just that's what I
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  Speaker 1: can't quite grasp my head. What does it say about
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  Speaker 1: that team that they were so great against teams when
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  Speaker 1: they were overmatched And I mean, I guess you could
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  Speaker 1: say frontrunners, but you know, and to have just it
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  Speaker 1: was such a disparity between what they would do to
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  Speaker 1: a bad team versus what they would do to Buffalo,
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  Speaker 1: which was nothing you know, like that's what to me
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  Speaker 1: is like the lingering kind of effect of like what
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  Speaker 1: is this team like these last few years. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's nothing that you've kind of come to expect from them.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean you can say they're kind of like bullies. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like when they had a coaching when they
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  Speaker 1: had a coaching advantage and you know, talent, things started
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  Speaker 1: going well everybody, when things were evened out a little bit, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they you know, and it wasn't even like you get
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  Speaker 1: into the games and you'd see like, well, they came
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  Speaker 1: out and they played pretty well, but once it started
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  Speaker 1: going in their bad way, they just couldn't really Like
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  Speaker 1: they didn't really come into these games like against Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: or Buffalo at the end with even something at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning that made you think, well they were prepared, but
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  Speaker 1: they just they got against it. It's like they didn't
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  Speaker 1: even have it coming into it. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. And so in that regard, like well
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  Speaker 1: Rodney said, like I get it. I'd like a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more of that presence. I mean, I also think
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  Speaker 1: Rodney might be a little bit you know trapped or
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  Speaker 1: when he played and doesn't realize, like, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can't just corn hed hunting guys anymore. You're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: torn out of the game. But I think see, I
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  Speaker 1: think that Mayo took the Rodney stuff to be Rodney stuff, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let the let the receipt, you know, put
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  Speaker 1: a stick in his ribs, let them know you're they are, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, give them, give them a little shot, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, making question going over the middle. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's the sign of necessarily a physical defense, just
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  Speaker 1: you know, having hard because you're right, you can't play
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  Speaker 1: like that anymore. You can't. So you can do that
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  Speaker 1: all you want, and you can give yourself fifteen yard penalties,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: but that's not really going to help you. I think
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the physical that Roddy is really talking about his upfront,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: it's it's winning the one on one battle. They have
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: not been able to stop the run for three seasons. Yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and that's and that's key. And i'd also throw force
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: bumbles in there. I think that's a sign of a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: tough team that makes you know, they get interceptions. But
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of that that kind of just
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you know, pure physicality like you saw with that old
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: defense when they were forcing fumbles left and right. And
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know turnovers can be fickle and all that,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: but I think they need to add some something. But
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the other thing that Mayo said that I thought was
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: interesting is that, you know, he intimated that he had
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: been offered DC opportunities. He didn't come out and say that,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: but he said, you know, it has to be the right,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: you know, the right. I think he's not interested it's
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: head coach or yeah, yeah, he's not interested in DC.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And I just think that, like, you know, maybe he's
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be a great head coach, but man, if I'm
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the owner of a team, that's a big risk. You know, yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: you were a good player, but you've only been a
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: coach three years and now you're going to be a
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: head coach. Wow, that's a to me, that's a big league. Well.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: They also kind of took that one step further and said, oh,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you love being in New England, so would you want
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to be the head coach here? And he kind of
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: said that was the best case scenario. Yea, his key,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I doesn't want to have to have his kids family.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I love the unabashedness of the whole thing too. You know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you don't. It's rare that you get guys that just
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: say what they're thinking, especially in that environment that radio
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: row is, right, it's usually like pre packaged marketing stuff.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But I thought his answer mail was here, right, but
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: he made but he was out there. I don't know
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: if I don't know if he was out there or not,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: but he made the right the radio row kind of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: ride he was put. I didn't even remember what he
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: was pushing. Now. Helmet was okay, yes, right, you're right. Um,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can say helmets, we are we
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a ken. I don't know. There was just all this
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: like what you can and can't write about with Ted,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Like I did like some of the things that he said.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And you know, he specifically said that, you know, Steve
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: calls the plays and he runs formulates I run the defense,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Steve calls the plays. Like that was kind of like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: so they kind of are co defensive coordinators, right. But
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I also, in regards to your point about the head
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: coach thing, loved his answer about like, I don't want
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: someone to make me a head coach to fill a quota.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yea right, right, I'm paraphrasing. He said, I want to
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I want to get a job because I deserve I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the best COMPI yeah, yeah, sure, Yeah. Well, I mean,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: is there a future you can imagine where Mayo is
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the head coach here and maybe Steve's his defensive coordinate.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's the successor. Yeah, and maybe that's how it works.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: They I mean, they spend a lot of time together.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously, but we've seen them. Yeah. Oh they
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: walk out to practice together. Yea. So as they say,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you know, like that whole thing I'm trying, you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: like this, Sometimes these things just become fact because we
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: talk about him so much. But we say, like, Bill's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: not going to leave until he feels secure with that.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: His sons have a you know, you know who knows.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: But might that be a way to get them secure.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe Gerard really like Steve, right, and if if Gerard
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: takes over for Bill, he's just it's natural, you just
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: keep they've got a relation. It's got to be a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: little awkward though, it's you know, it's no matter what yea,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: no matter what you say about Steve and how good
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you think he is, how much time he's put in,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: he's still the coach's son, you know, And so like
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you gotta be careful. Now. What I don't know is
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you know, how you know objective Bill is and how
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: he treats everybody? Like does he really treat Steve like
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: everybody else? And is that apparent to everybody? Like? In
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: other words, can grod Mayo speak his mind to Steve
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and not have to worry about Steve? Ye? Maybe he can?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Can we switch? You know, if there's someone that would
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: do that, it would be Bill that would treat his
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: son like everybody else? You know, can we switch a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: little to offense? Uh? Sure? And and I want to
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: ask the PA my esteemed colleagues, UM, do you think
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: this is it Joe Judge or do you think there'll
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: be another guy named offensive coordinator? I think it's Joe Judge.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I think I think the only way it would be
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: someone named offensive coordinator if it's someone with the experience,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: like a Bill O'Brien. But like when they brought as
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I'm asking, do you think there'll be another guy? I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: on the fence. Yeah, you know, I would have to say,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: if I had a bet, I'd say no. Okay, Now
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: assume that that's what it is. Joe Judge is an
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: offensive assistant that's official. By the way, if you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the last time we talked to her hadn't been official.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: They put out the release. The team has now put
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: out a release that is official. He was named quote
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: offensive assistant, so we too understand that he is the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or no? And if so, either way, who's
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: calling the plays next year? Do you think? I think?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be similar to the defense, to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the defense where Mick Lombardi's probably gonna, you know, have
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a headset on who's calling the place. Who do you
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: think is calling the place? I think I think Nick
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Kayley will be called really okay, Joe Judge has ever
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: called place? Yeah, Like I don't. I don't know if
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you could just do that, yeah, i'd actually, I mean
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't immediately think it stressful calling plays. Some people
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: might love it is stressful, but I think some people
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: might like get it. They might love it. But you
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: gotta get those plays in on time. You gotta be thinking, right,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's fine, that's that's a tough job. Yeah,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I when Paul said that that way though,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that's kind of appealing to me of having a Nick Kayley,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a young offensive coordinator who isn't going to probably get
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: poached right away, but he has some experience with Joe
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Judge as a fallback, and you know when a sounding word.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I kind of like that dynamic. I just I've been
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: on the fence. I think part of it because they
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: named him offensive assistant, it felt like at least the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: door open a little bit. They want to, you know, um,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: but is it Bill O'Brien, Because after Bill O'Brien, who's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: it really? Who's Adam Adam Gase? Yeah, I mean there's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: probably a million that we don't know about just because
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: we haven't heard of him. Most of them are possibilities
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: because they haven't worked for Bill or you know, a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: round Bill. That's why I threw that that name out there. Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Ohsha's a guy. I mean, I know what the situation
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: is in Cleveland, but yeah, I mean I don't know
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: with him. I guess he's what limited experience was, briefly
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: what Miami's offensive coordinator for like a year. I'd probably
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: be just a little bit more enticed by by Kaylee
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: somebody in internal if if they were to uh at
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: least be the play caller. Maybe they don't give him
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the I don't think. I don't think nobody's going to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: be named. I'm with Fred. I don't think there'll be
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a guy that's his offensive coordinator. No, no, but someone
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: has to call the place, Yeah, I haven't. I think
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it's going to be Judge. And the reason I think
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that is because I think Bill likes him, and we
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: saw that he was trying to do what he could
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: when Judge was still here to try to get him
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: more experience. And in that last year was at nineteen,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he was given the added title of wide receivers coach
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to try to give him a little bit more experience.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Then he gets the head coaching job in New York,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and I think like when think about when Josh came
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: back after having been a head coach and an offensive
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: coordinator with with was it Saint Louis at the time
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: he came back, and like Josh, you could tell had
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: sort of a different demeanor on the practice field, like
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: he and Bill were more kind of on even terms
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: than it used to be where it was clearly like
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Bill's the boss, Josh goes and reports to him. It
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: was more of a like we're seeing eye to eye,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: we're seeing this together. I'm conferring with you, and I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: think he'll have that same sort of dynamic with Judge
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: when he comes back. And I just think that clearly
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Judge wants to be more than what he was before
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: before he left here. Yeah, and it's the same way
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: thing with Patricia. Sure. Lets you have been a head
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: coach in the NFL, right, That's that's an experience that
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you can't replicate right, except by doing it right. And
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I think Bill has that respect because he did that. Yeah,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: here's a head coach and failed and learned from it,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and he projects he thinks that they did the same thing.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: They've learned from that experience. So if you put a
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: gun to my head, I'll say that Judge is the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: guy calling the place, even though he's never done it. Yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: but Paul's is a good one. I'm really worried about
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the offense, and yeah, that structure I'm worried about. I mean,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you there are good play callers and bad
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: play callers, of course, like you can be really good
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: at it and then every level behind that you. Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And like I know people, I always think like the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: individual play call itself is largely overrated. But I do
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: think there's a rhythm to setting up plays, and certainly
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: in terms of the operation, it's it's important to get
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it right and get it right fast. Yeah, um, or
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it can really throw your tempo off. Yeah, if you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: even even by a couple of seconds here or there,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: if the calls aren't being made. I don't know, Like
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I just no matter what, I think, you got a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: guy who never called plays calling plays next year, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a problem. Yeah, I mean,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's more to it then, Okay,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it's third and two. Here's my list of third and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: two plays. You know, it's the SA Did the other
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: team just have an injury? Right? You know? Clock management
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: plus on second and ten? You're you're not just thinking
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: about what you call on second and ten, You're thinking
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: about what am I? What do I got on five? Three?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: You know, after the second and ten play gets me seven?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: What do I got on third and three? Right? You know?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Is is my left tackle having a hard time? You know?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Do I? You know, if there's all kinds of in
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: context decisions that you have to make besides what my
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: playsheet says for that for that down and distance, it
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: would have been interesting to see if Judge hadn't gotten
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the job with New York, what would have happened in
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty or twenty twenty one with his responsibilities. Would
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: cam a Court have completely taken over special teams and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Judge risen to do something else or or not? You know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: would they have kept it as status quo? Yeah, I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, but you're right, it's going to be very
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: interesting this summer. But what else could Judge have done?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe he goes to quarterbacks and that instead of they're
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: hiring Bohart. Agree, Maybe they make Joe Judge the quarterbacks
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: coach and sort of like a sort of like an
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: offensive play calling assistant, Like who knows, I mean, maybe
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: they make role. Maybe he he does, starts doing that,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: he becomes and I'm not gonna lie. Like the Giants
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: offense that that that's part of the equation, Like how
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: bad the Giants offense wasn't the two years that that
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge was the Giant's head coach. That's that's part
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: of it for me, That's part of the equation. We
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: saw firsthand here. I was not impressed. Their best plays
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: were the Daniel Jones keepers running, but you know there is,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and that's what you got. You got a young quarterback. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I mean there is part of me though that if
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: we can, if somebody like Nick Kayley is ready to
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: call plays and kind of ascend into that role and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: get on that Josh track, I'd be on board with it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Just if if you know you can, you're gonna keep
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a guy with Mac through his contract and however long
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he stays with the team, maybe takes some lumps this
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: year if you have to. But I don't know, I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: think that's a little bit more appealing to me than
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: maybe say, Adam Gaze comes for a year, does well,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: leaves again. I don't think he'd believing though, Yeah, take
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: him a while. Ain't getting a head coaching job. Yeah,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: And you can make the same argument with Judge like that,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: teams aren't going to be scrambling to knock his door down.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: But at least he always but at least he only
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: failed once. Right. But I'm say, well, Brian, there's a
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: chance that he's going after year one. I don't think
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Adam Gas is going any He's not getting another head
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: coaching job. No, But you've seen plenty of Kate, I mean,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Josh is a good example where like he flamed out
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: in Denver, but he stayed in one place for a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: long time, rebuilt his reputation, and now we got a job.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Now it's was it a decade later almost, But it
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: could be the same thing. I think just part of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: build too, that that could be remembers being in that
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: position of being fired. And you know, I think likes
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: giving guys that that chance. And you know, when Josh
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: came back, it's like these coaches they come in after
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: failing as punchlines. It's just what happens. It's you fail,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: everyone makes fun of you. You had the quarterback sneak.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Uh huh. I mean the same thing with Matt Patricia
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: last year. So you know, I get why why they're
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: bringing guys back, but um, you know, I just I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: just want to continue to build to the long term
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and try to, you know, put guys in positions where
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: they're going to be here for a little bit and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they can stay with MAC and you can have some
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: continuity because you're you're pulling the rug out from under
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: room after one year. I mean, I don't think it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a you know, usually detrimental thing. They have time to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: regroup but I think they gotta think, you know, building
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a relationship and building an offense around him, and you know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: finding an offensive coordinator that jives with him. And you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe I don't know what it was like with Josh,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: but you know, there's just something appealing about somebody who's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: been here and to kind of continue like everything you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: laid out Fred that the people that have have been around,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And yeah, there's always some uncertainty of all right, you
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: know this guy Josh McDaniels is gonna be the play
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: call or who is he? Um, there is a leap
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: of faith with that stuff. But I think in the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: long term, then you know, you end up in oh
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: seven and you know that offseason they start getting pieces.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: He knows just what to do, how to put it
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: around Brady and you know, built an awesome offense. So
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe they can you know, reproduce something like that. Yeah. Well,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: but you know, I mean it's just you keep coming
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: back to all these he comes back and we get
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the band back together. Yeah these I mean, this the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: AFC is is such a bloodbath right now. And that's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's and that's like everything you talk about with the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: team building and you know, Max's future and stuff, and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it's hard not to just look at and say, you
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: gotta beat the bills. He got to be in stuff
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: right there, and stuff. I didn't even do it on purpose.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I know you didn't Chandler Jones blunt um, but you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I I forgot my point. I'm sorry that was just
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: made me chuckle. Yeah. So so, I mean, it's it's
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: really really important, you know, And I you know, the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: sooner they get this all settled, the better, because you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it's critical you want to use all this time, especially
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: for aficiently, especially for Mac as you pointed out, dudes,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: going into his second year. This is a very critical
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: year for any player, particularly a quarterback, and for him
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, if if they were to bring
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: in someone with completely new ideas and a new offense,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: now that's really how is that going to throw off
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: his projected development? And you'd like to see some sort
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of continuity with him and and hope that he can
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: maximize the offseason program and knowledge of the system and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: working with teammates that he had a year of experience
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: with under under their belt, and you know, maybe he's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the one leading the offseason stuff where they go out
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to the warm weather locality and they're having passing camps
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. So, yeah, we're gonna have
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a chance to talk to mac uh in La. We've
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: got no socks out there with Chris Gogo and so
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have about fifteen minutes with Mac tet you know.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And one of the questions I said, you know, maybe
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: ask him where does he plan to spend most of
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: his offseason. Is it gonna be here or you know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: somewhere else? Yeah, yeah, hopefully here. Well yeah, you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: but listen, if he's got to get away, he's got Yeah.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it's if it's more efficient to be
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: in a warm weather place, then then go there. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you know, I think I don't think we have to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: worry about Mac not using his time to get better. No,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he's all about. It's as good
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get a chance. As they say, Paul football
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: is very important to him. You know, sounds convinced. Well,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm just falls thinking about the bean pot.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: He's like. I was actually just looking at the promo
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that NFL Network was running it for the No Honors tonight,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and tonight we'll find out if Richard Seymour makes the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Hall of Family's thinking of another topic, Patriots related, Seymour
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: is again of finalists. Is what four years in a row?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, he's gonna get in, and we
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: do not know that. We don't know. Um, I don't know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: But based on who he's up against, he should get in.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: He should get in. He should get in. Ye. Well,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: otherwise he would have been in already, I think, don't you. Yeah,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Like I took Andre
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Tippot a long time to get in, he should have
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: been in a lot earlier than that. Stuff. To me,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I just don't like I don't like the process. I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: don't like how it's just media guys like, yeah, it's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: gotta be a better way, right, it's gotta be a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: better way, right, Let me just do it. But I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: hope he asked me, I'll tell you what happens. Happen,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: what happens when the guys get up there and friends like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: who's who is that? I don't know him? Yeah, then
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: he doesn't get if I don't know. He's the all
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: time leader in receptions, Freddy, No one's ever done it
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: better than if I don't know, he shouldn't be in catches.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: If I don't use catches, that's a staff suddenly catches. Suddenly.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Fred's going by the the On Camella rule. But if
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know him, yeah, right, that's right. He can't
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: be All of Famer unless everybody knows it. But you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: don't really, but you don't really know a lot of
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: people that we needed the camera that time. So anyway,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Seymour will find out tonight, yeah, with the with the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: class is and hopefully he'll get in. Yeah, and there's
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: some other awards that you know, Patriots players are up
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: for the Rooney Award and mac Jones Mac Jones for
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, which I'm with Paul now, I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: don't think he should get or will get. Well, yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you know, Chase came on, Yes, came on, he came on.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: He came on starting a week he came on. That's good,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: he's good. It's good. Yeah. Actually, a question, um, what
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: does the UH content crew do for Hall of Fame inductions?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: If Patriots players is there like a big to do well.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: We used to be able to like actually hang out
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: at their hotel room and be there when the you know,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the knock on the door, but they don't do that anymore,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I don't know why, but so um,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll try to get some one on
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: one with Richard, but they're really restricting access at the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: But I think you were talking about the actual induction, know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: just everything just generally. Yeah, I mean we're kind of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: out there now in case that's part of what we're
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: gonna do. Why they're there. Yeah, but in August, you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I I'm trying to think when thy Law, you know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we'll have a crew out there, and you know we
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: went for Andre, didn't be Sev. Wasn't Brian there? I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: think so for that yeah, thy Law? Yeah, right, more
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: oh pieces, and then the player has like a the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: player has a big party that they actually this is
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: another thing where I hate what how they do it, Paul,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you know into the Hall of Fame, right, and then
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you have these parties after the thing and the player
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: has to go around and like beg from money to
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: have this party's it's like weird they do, yeah, but
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that with that. Yeah, it's like you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: like unless they have all this money them like they
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: get contributions, don't they. I'm not telling you one. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I went to Tippets because I was sent me to
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: cover that one. His party afterwards was just him like
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: taking pictures and signing autographs for people. He wasn't asking
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: anybody for money that I can record. No, no, no,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: before like to get the party going, Like your party
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is only as big as how much money you can spend. Oh,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I j Jerry didn't have to go around.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: When Jared got in, his thing was a blowout. It
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: was like it was unbelievable. And then you have other
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: guys that just don't have the money, and you know
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it's just like a small affair. You know, Seymour got
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: that stimulus package, right, Yeah, he should be all right
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: poker money to me, they should have one party for everybody,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you know, big huge place and you have your areas,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: like here's the Jerry Jones area, here's the Tippet you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: know you want to mingle with those other teams. Yeah,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and you know he should be at the Hall of Fame.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Should be just a Patriots. It should be a galla
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: for everybody with the different areas or tables for the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: families of each and duct in ducteed, you know, like
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to force these guys to have to put together their
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: own party kind of like kind of like at a
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: wedding one that you're either here for the bride or
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the groom. You're like, oh, you're here for the tippets,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: so you're here for the sea. Yeah, well set you
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: over here. Seymour's the Brady one though, I mean, twenty
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: twenty seven probably start playing that one now, which twenty
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: nine take them a couple of years when it comes back.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: When he comes back back, I mean if Mac doesn't,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, right the clock resets, what are
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the chances the h I quick? Can I tell quick
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: a side story that made me think up just a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: little quick funny side you brought up on your tippet. Um.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So I was dropping off my son at middle at
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: elementary school a couple of mornings ago, you know, and
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: they do like a whole like drive thing drop off,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and then they block off the intersection, you know, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: so I basically just get out. So I'm going out,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: they're waving me through, and then all of a sudden,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: this giant car like kind of cuts me off, as
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you know. The thing. I'm like what's this guy doing,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: like like any fifty six? It was my town, my
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: neighbor tippet. Uh kind of looked at each other like
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: give them the bird. Too smart for that. It took
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: me a second to figure out, but I was just
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it's random and interactions with a lottery tipping. You brought
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: something up. That's another one of my pet peeves. I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: could tell us school drop off? Yeah, oh boy, what
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: happened to the bus? Why can't these kids? Why did
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: they have to have be chauffeured by their parents so
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: that it blocks traffic every day? What's that all about?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: You know, kids? The kids are too good to be
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: on the bus anymore. You can't. You know, I still
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: see school buses driving. Oh they have them, but there's
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: so many that don't take the bus that it creates
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this whole other traffic my choice, you mean, yeah, it's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: all it's all a nightmare. You gotta pay for the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: bus now, like my middle schoolers on the bus. But
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: he's like sometimes like I didn't have a seat on
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the bus, Like how do you not have a seat
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: on the bus, Like, you know, we gotta pay like
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: six hundred bucks for the year for you just to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: ride the bus and he doesn't even get a seat
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: on it. It's uh, is that what he told you?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. I know. No one will let me
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: shoot down and fight somebody. Yeah, pull someone out of
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the seat, suck it up. That first day, you gotta
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: kick somebody's ass here, you're gonna act like I'm on. Yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I um, did you take a bus to school? Absolutely
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: every day? I mean I grew up in a small
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: city and just walked. But yeah, well, yeah, that's fine.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: We didn't have school buses and Everett and all and all.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: It's too small. There weren't like the yellow school buses
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: that that didn't exist at evert they had white super Well,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: there were people that went like if you lived on
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the other side of the city and you went to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: like there was one accelerated program and that was it
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: happened to be at my elementary school, so I didn't
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: have to worry about it, and yes, I was in
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it before you ask. But people that came from the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: other side of the city, they took the regular MBTA buses.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Oh wow to the center school. Random. Yeah, I have
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: like a bus pass or your kid though probably free
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, it might have been like a
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: dime random forget to get off the bus. You end
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: up in like downtown center. Oh yeah, good luck. These
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: things happened. But my kids took the bus to middle school.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: That's it. We did the pick up and drop off
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: at elementary school, and then I had to school. When
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I first started going to this school in New Jersey
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: as this Catholic school, it was far away, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and I had a walk like quarters of a mile
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: up to Route nine. And my father asked the gas
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: station guy if I could just wait in the gas
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: station every day, and they said yes. And then finally
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the bus route actually went down my street, like maybe
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: when I was in fifth grade or something, so I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: didn't have to walk up to the gas station. Did
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you talk about a whole different planet that they put
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: him the word and I grew up in I absolutely
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Yeah, the local shop owner. Yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: my kid waiting to get in your gas station. Sure.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: My elementary school was literally down the street and around
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the corner. But I grew up on a busy street.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: In the street around the corner was the main street
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: in Everett. It was like Route ninety nine. Yeah, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that was where I had to walk up my street,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: take a left and go up Broadway to the Center school.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I mean in kindergarten. I was five. Yeah, my mother
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: crossed me across the street and said, have a good day, honey.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: You want you want to hear real crazy? And my
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: parents were strict. My my my father had a hardware
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: store in Brooklyn, Okay, in the city, and I go
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: in there and work. When I was a little kid,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: first grade, they put me on the subway to get
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: sandwiches for people. And I go to this place that
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: they you know, and I go get the sandwiches for
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: everybody and bring them back first grade or on the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: subway by myself with money in my pocket. Oh god,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I mean that's great. That tops me, you know, that
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: tops me. It's like you would never do that now,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and I can understand that, but back then you could
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: do it. So you went from all that to East Dennis.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: It was not a was not a crazy transition for
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: you going form like a city to living in the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: middle of No Ara. Oh no, he worked in the city.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: We lived in the suburbs of New Jersey. Yeah, yeah, yea.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Knowing how dead it is down there, the subway didn't
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: always have a great reputation back then either. Though. Oh
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: maybe my father didn't like me. I don't know, but
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: maybe he won't come home back. We stop on the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Orange Line all the time. We'd go to Bruins like
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: we were like eight, nine, ten years old, Like the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Saturday Mattinee Bruins games. Me and like four or five
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of my friends. We go to Wellington, jump on the
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Orange Line, three three or four stops in North Station.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: We go to the Bruins game again. Yeah, have a
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: good time. Yeah you need, you need any money, you know.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: But you know, I remember the remember the upper Balcony
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and the old Garden six bucks, and we used to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: go there by the middle of the second period. We'd
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: eye outload seats that were empty. We'd go down and
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: then we get on the train and go back. Like
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I'm talking ten years old. That's why city kids are
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: so different. Like I grew up the suburbs. I was
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: like in high school taking the Green Line in from Wellesley,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: like oh God, oh God, we're going into the city,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like you just But it's funny because I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: never thought anything of the Orange Line because I was
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: at like the you know, Wellington Sullivan North Station, you know.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: And then like everybody always talked about the orange line
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: on the orange you don't go on the orange, right.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I never had a problem. And
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: then you get a little older and you start doing
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: like construction jobs in Boston, you go into like Washington
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and Dudley and you're right, oh, this is what they're
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: talking about. Not all that safe. YEA one more thing
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Germany with with the announcement, Yeah, two games, that's some
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: exciting news. Uh. Oh, we gotta talk about Goodell, but
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: anyone boy? Um yeah, he announced that Munich is going
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to be the place where they're gonna play a game
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: in Germany this year, Frankfort next year. Then I'll go back.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: They'll rotate. Um. So that's big news. Yeah yeah, Munich,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: uh and then Frankfurt. So what uh I mean? I
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: guess I asked Eric what would be uh what would
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: be the difference in the two cities? Are you any uh? Yeah?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Munich is kind of like you're when you think of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: like the later Hosen and the beer halls and like
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: that's Bavaria. Munich is kind of like the capital of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: that area. So you you're thinking like this sort of
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: like the the image you have in your mind of Germany.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: That's kind of Munich. Frankfurt's more like business ey industrial,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: like the airports. There a lot of major connections going
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: through there. So I don't know if there's as much
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: character in Frankfort as there would be in Munich. Munich
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: has the bigger stadium. Sure, Munich has Bayern Munich, which
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: they're the Bundesliga champs, so they they have nice facilities
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: there and I think that probably helped sway the judges.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: But I think they both were strong bidders, so that's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: why they did both for the next four year. And
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: they also didn't rule out revisiting Dusseldorf. Good, so we
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: can do our right that we have this whole thing
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: planned though, we're gonna have Deuce being a Deuce and
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Duseldorf and he's gonna be our man Onderstrass, going to
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: go around asking questions, his waving his hands back. And
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I haven't agreed to this yet, but they haven't. Every day,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: what do you have to live for? Fair enough? Fair enough? Yeah?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: And then we also heard from our guy Matisse who's
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: helping out today. Right, it does look like him doesn't
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: it um that, Uh, the Tottenham Stadium in London is
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: thinking about bidding on a Super Bowl. Wow, that would
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: be weird. So what do you think of that? I
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't like change the game will
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: be at two am? Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that like they would have to probably think about changing
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the kickoff time for that, right because if they did
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: it at if they did the regular kickoff time six
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: six twenty eight, right, that'd be like eleven thirty at
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: night over there. They're not gonna be playing the game
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: at eleven thirty at night, So if they did it
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: at six thirty over there, that's like one thirty in
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: the afternoon over here, which I don't mind. Fine, that's
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: like that's the way you used to be, right, So
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I liked it, but that would be I mean, just
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: just thoughts on having the game not in the United States. Yeah.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I remember when they changed it to four o'clock one
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: year and I was like what is this? I mean later,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: London's a fun city. I mean, it wouldn't be a
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: bad place to have events and things like would you
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: go would you be more willing to go to a
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl as a fan I'm just saying, would you
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: be willing to go to a Super Bowl if your
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: team wasn't in it, if it were in a place
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: like like that, Sure I would be less willing because
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I think it would be more expensive. Oh yeah, like
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: if I Wasnause's the way Eric put that up there.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: So you're not a fan of either team, obviously, If
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the team, yeah, you're gonna doesn't matter, right,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: But if I'm looking to go to the Super Bowl
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: as a neutral fan, I don't think London, would you know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Europe would probably would be far more expensive. Yeah, sure,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: just a flight alone. Yeah. Um. And then Goodell had
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: his annual Super Bowl press conference and Ben Voland got
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: up and asked that the flight Gate question, and Goodell
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: got away with it with, you know, just sidestepping the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: whole question. The question wasn't about the spot checks. It
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: was about you said that they were going to do
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: a year long study on whether or not whether effects
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the PSIG balls and the data was is gone. That's
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: what Voland was asking about. I wasn't asking about whether
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: there were violations and spot checks. Just answer the question
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you wish you were asked, right, That's what he does
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: that and he's good at Hey, he would what would
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: be and you're not allowed follow ups? That's right. What
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: would be more acceptable is if he wasn't so smarmy
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: when he did it. Yeah, he's always so condescending, like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you know, like like I don't really I thought about
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: if flaky other than maybe your last question last year,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but um uh we wu. We were
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: very clear that we were going to do spot checks
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to make sure that people were following the policy. That's
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: not the question. That is something that we fully uh
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: engaged in, and I don't know what happened to the data.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, we don't look back at that.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: We just make sure there's no violations. That's the purpose
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: of the spot checks. Are there violations, and if there
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: are violations, we need to look into it. But thankfully
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: we did not see any, thankfully, and by that time
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: the person would you know, right right? Yeah, I mean basically, look,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: no one wants to talk about the flake gate, I
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: get it, right, you know, and every um and I
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's like this right now because of COVID,
• 49:07
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  Speaker 1: I just want to sort of parent your guys concerned.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Sorry it's a little bit loud where I am, but
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I just kind of want to cart your guys concerned
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: about not naming an offensive and defensive coordinator. And to me,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's not about redundancy. And I
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: know you guys have brought the stuff. It's more or
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: less about accountability and PAULI I know, like you had
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to laugh when somebody had brought up about how Build
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: relinquished control to the defense after the seven game winning streaking.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: To me, I mean, it's absurd because if if there's
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: not a coordinator in name in its title, he's the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: default defensive coordinator. So any any sort of blame, any
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, shade for lack of better terms,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: that you want to throw on the team. I mean,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: it starts with him, it starts at the top um.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: He's the one that's overseen everything as far as beyond
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: the field product. And yeah, I just I hope, I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: hope they named somebody at some point soon, hopefully before
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the start of the year, even if it is deep.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't really care whether or not they
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: name anybody. I just care that they win games. And
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: you know, like if they don't win games, then maybe
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: that's the reason. I don't know, but but I don't
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: know if that's gonna be the reason why they do
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: win games if they name a coordinator, you know, just
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: never changed. No, but they've they've had years we went
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: down there, They've had years where they didn't and they won't.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: But like, before it happens and before the results speak
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: for you know, obviously, I don't think anybody that's rooting
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots would say I'd rather have a named
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator than win games. Yeah, I don't think there's
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: anybody out there who roots with the Patriots that would say, yeah, yeah,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: they won, but they don't have a named defensive coordinator,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: so I wasn't really unsuccessful. I'm asking, do you think
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: it is a problem. I think I think it's better
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to have someone who is a good coordinator, you know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, in all those years, Bill didn't
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: think that he had someone in staff that was worthy
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: of the title at that point. Yeah. See, I'm not
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: worried about a title. I'm worried about is there a guy? Yeah,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: and I think there are two guys. And I think
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: that's the difference between all of the other years that
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you did a lot of research. But I think that's
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the difference. I don't think that, Patricia, I think a guy.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's one. I don't you think it's Bill. Yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I think Bill is in charge of the defense guys
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: only during the seven game winning and these guys carry
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: out what what he wants to do. But I I
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and if he wants to stick with that, fine, But
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I think the operation needs to be smoother, needs to
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: be improved, needs however you want to characterize it, because
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: it looks it looked from Afar like the operation wasn't
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: always it was sloppy. They were not. Let's put it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And I know I said this a million times during
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the course of this season. If the things that happened
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: to the Patriots last year, from start to finish, happened
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: to another team, you would have considered it poorly coached.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: But because Bill Belichick is the coach, we don't look
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: at it that way. We say things that were uncharacteristic
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: of a Belichick coach team, and he has earned that right.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He has earned that right. But forget there not having
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: enough guys in the field. I mean, the special teams
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: were abysmal, the penalties, pre snap penalties, the beginning of
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the season, you know, the way that they came out
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and were sloppy early on the end of the season. Defense,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: there was nothing that screamed to you this team is
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: really well coached in twenty twenty one. And I know
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I used to We used to have a little funny
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: back and forth when we tape our TV show. Every week,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Mike and I have to do a debate, and every
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: week the producer of the show, Don Maxon, who is awesome,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: provides us all kinds of information. Every week. He would suggest,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: is this Belichick's best coaching season? And I would say
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that because I'm not going on TV
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: saying no, it's not good, So I don't want to
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, that like again, when you when
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you get you know, multiple punts blocked and line up
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: over the center on on a on a missed field
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: goal and stuff like that. We would laugh at a
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: second year to coach in Cleveland for having that happen
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and say, look at how Mike McCarthy just just no
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: feel for the game, like just no fred kersh no
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: feel for the game, just poorly coached. And that's what
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: we do. But with Belichick, we just say I'm characteristic
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: of a Belichick coach team. Yeah, I think he had
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: a bad year. Yeah, I agree with everything you said, Paul.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: And that's and you know, at the core of it.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Does it really probably make a difference really if they
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: name the coordinator. Is that more a superficial thing that
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: we want to hear. I don't know, but something has
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: to change. Maybe everybody's on the same page on third
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: And that's what I worry laid out right, absolutely, that's
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: what I worry about. And again I don't need to
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: go thirteen and three and say, well it wasn't a problem.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If it wasn't a problem, maybe they
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: should have gone sixteen And Oh, I don't know. I
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: know they're gonna win games because a Belichick is a
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: great coach. I know that. I don't have to see
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: him coach to know that he is a great coach.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: And he's gonna come up with things that we don't
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: see and know about. We can't like, you know, they're intangible.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: You can't know like, oh, did you see exactly how
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: he set up his game plan that stop you? We don't.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: We don't know football like that. I know he's gonna
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: do that a lot during the course of the year
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: because that's what he does. Yeah, Freddy, do you not
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: put any any credence into like just having that one
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: voice because I know, like I do, I do, and
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I think Bill is it I And if you're gonna
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: you're gonna lay blame it, it needs to be Bill.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I think on defense this year the one voice was Bill. No.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I think after the Dallas game that became Bill, but
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I think before that there was communication problems. And I
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: think that third and twenty five is my play. Yeah,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: that's my scarlet legs Patty, Let's go to William and Philham.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: What's up? William? Well, you got a name for me everything?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: That's that's because I love you. I only give names
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: to people that you know I have affection for. Okay,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to take that time. Okay, um
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: so um. I had many topics, but I'm just gonna
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: just say too. One is um I want. I would
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: want Bill O'Brien, you know, not just because of connections
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and ties with Almammber, because didn't he didn't Matt teach
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: uh Bill O'Brian the playbook p Alabama del so they
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: sat down together. Yes, Okay, so you know, I just
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: think for a lot of reason today he would fit.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: But I also think Bill O'Brien might want them, say,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: you know, so that the front table basin has some
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: say about what what weapons you bringing in on office?
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like he might want to
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: hand some say that. And I don't know if Bill
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: going out there, you know all. I mean, has anybody
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: asked Bill O'Brien whether or not he wants to come
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: back here? I mean people always just assume that because
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: there's a job opening with the Patriots, everyone's gonna stop
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: what they're doing and run back to Foxburg. Well, I
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: mean that is a no, I know, and you're right,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: and like it, does he want to come back? I
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: think Bill and Saban kind of have an agreement. We're
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: not going to take each other's guys unless it's really
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be beneficial. I mean, you know, yeah, And there
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: have been Alabama coaches. I've come here, Bison Series one
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: that comes to immediately to mine um and obviously guys
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: from here have gone down there. But here's here's what
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I'm most worried about. When it comes to the offense.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: For a long time, Bill has been able to just say, Josh,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: you got it right, I don't need to worry about it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: And and now this year, I'm not so sure about that.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: So if if I'm correct and Bill is the defense,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and now he has to worry about that too, even
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: if it's a little bit, that's not good. Yeah, that's
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: not good. So that's where Paul might be you know,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: could they be bringing in somebody else still that could
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: be just so Bill can say I still don't have
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: to worry about the offense, because right now I think
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: he does. Speaking of just bringing everybody back Evidently, Albert
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Brier is saying that he thinks it's possible Scott Pioli
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: could return to help the Patriots front office. Wow, thanks, William, Oh,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: i'd be all, how does how does he mesh with
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: with Patricia? You know? That's wow? I don't know. Yeah,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: that'd be cool because I know I know Scott. Once
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: he's here, he's gonna he's a he's an alpha. Yeah,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: he's gonna want his way somewhere else. You know. No, No,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: she just likes that. He'll make fun of me. And
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I was good at say, like built in relationship. I
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: just remember that. Oh you think that you always were
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: impressed with how much I talked to Scott Pioli never
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: again the last three Yeah, I no, no, I know
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that's that was like the first time you said, oh,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: now you'll talk to him, how you talk to me?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I just remember that when the Falcons hired Pioli and
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: they had this like pick up Dimitrov picks him up
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: at the air report and they had like the two
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: of them in the car and Pioli is just like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: taking the lead. He's like, we've got a lot of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: work to do, and I'm thinking, what's Demotrov thinking about this.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: You know, you you come in here in your first
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: day and you're telling me that I remember you know, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that kind of was. It's interesting. It seems like Pioli's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: kind of enjoying the TV life now in the medium Yeah,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: background of pr before we got into Y Yeah, I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that either.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: But but he was a delight when I talked to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: him for that two thousand and one. Just delight, delight,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: loved it, loved it. Yestuce phrases. It's a delight. All right,
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  Speaker 1: do they know? What do they know? But I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: Excited excite, I'm excited for the game. Yeah, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: sitting myst and watch some wings. Yeah. I hope it's
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  Speaker 1: a good game. Yeah, but it's a nice entertaining game.
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  Speaker 1: And will you watch all the pregame stuff how? I
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  Speaker 1: mean a usually it starts at noon. Yeah I don't
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  Speaker 1: it'll be on yeah, but wat Yeah. And you know
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  Speaker 1: what the shame of that is is they do some
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  Speaker 1: really good features they doing. There's some really good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: There was one year. I forget the details now, but
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  Speaker 1: I was like crying my eyes out watching one of those.
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  Speaker 1: I know that, Like that makes me soft, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but this this might come as soft, This might come
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  Speaker 1: as a shock to most, but I'm somewhat emotional. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know that that might be hard to believe. Well,
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  Speaker 1: emotional goes both ways. Yeah, it's not like Andy hard emotion,
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  Speaker 1: like he just has a sugar crash and falls. But
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  Speaker 1: they have a lot of good stuff on those pregame
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  Speaker 1: shows that I don't think a lot of people even see, right,
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  Speaker 1: because who's sitting down? You're at all day? Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: gotta fill the time. You don't have to have a
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  Speaker 1: pregame show for six hours, that's true, but they get
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  Speaker 1: the advertising dollars in there, so they say, well, let's
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  Speaker 1: add an hour, let's add another hour. Yea. Before you
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  Speaker 1: know it, it's it's it's a lot of money to
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  Speaker 1: wake up Super Bowl Sunday morning and you got your
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  Speaker 1: it was, you know, And I think to Eric's point,
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  Speaker 1: he's right, I think it was. Not sure. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was last year the most watched pregame show between
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  Speaker 1: two and three pm Eastern, Even if it wasn't. I
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  Speaker 1: usually try to stick with the network who has the game,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because ESPN will have it stuff chase the
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  Speaker 1: game starts and you're not ready, you don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to get it, but I just like to. I like
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  Speaker 1: to be there where it is right now. I understand
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  Speaker 1: where he's coming from. It. Yeah, like it's their responsibility
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  Speaker 1: they're carrying, you know, Like the other networks are just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like sort of like saying, hey, they got
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  Speaker 1: the game, but you can come watch us, whereas these
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  Speaker 1: guys are like, we have everything that you need to
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  Speaker 1: know about the game, and see here it's on, and
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  Speaker 1: sure that's that Jack Collinsworth that we're gonna get the
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  Speaker 1: Jack the Jack collins Worth. A lot of you lot
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  Speaker 1: might who's better than He'll be doing several features. I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: Oh I know, I think it's Peter King is doing
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: some of those vignettes. It's Peter King, al Michael's is
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  Speaker 1: calling his what fourteenth super Bowl? Really? I think was
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  Speaker 1: the number of that I saw? That's good around? Good
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  Speaker 1: for him? Is this it for al Michaels? And will
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  Speaker 1: they do a whole thing for uh Madden? Will they
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  Speaker 1: do a big tribute for Madden? I would? I would?
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  Speaker 1: I would assume sure, yeah, yeah, something either pregame or
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: you know, halftime, well not halftime, but like at some
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  Speaker 1: point in the coverage is gonna do the the maddened
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  Speaker 1: retrospective at half time? He'll play the game while smoking
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  Speaker 1: a blin, a blunt, a blint, a Garrett Blu's, and
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  Speaker 1: a Blintz Blintzes he said blins. So Eminem didn't show up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he's too good for this is what would you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: say that? I agree? He is too good for it?
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  Speaker 1: Um in all seriousness, how do you feel about this? Matt?
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  Speaker 1: He disappointed it all. He's not on the stage. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, we're watching the Super Bowl half Prairie difference. Yeah,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: so they've got Snoop Dogg, Mary J. Blige, doctor Dre
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  Speaker 1: mj Acosta Ruiz one of the interviewers, and the other
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  Speaker 1: guy from the morning show. Who's yeah, Kendricks. Kendrick's not there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. This is the guy that's going to vote
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famers just based on name. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the guy in Good Morning America, you know, yeah, he's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: been on God he played baseball, right, yes, yeah, played
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  Speaker 1: first base short stop for the Red Sox. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: His nickname was the Rooster. That's right, right, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Past five hundred is the a sticket hot wine. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get back to the listeners. Todd's in North Carolina. Hey, Todd,
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  Speaker 1: you know why we listened to you because we get
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  Speaker 1: those insights, like the little bit of a coaching thing
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: going on between Mayo and Belichick and stuff like that.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, you guys give us these insights, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's great. Now I do have a question.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what we're talking about. By the way, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know you gave us too much credit. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: always do. But that's okay. You guys are worth it anyway.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Mister Hart, you aforementioned the man feels that Bill Belichick
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: might be losing his fastball, hence the miss text to
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  Speaker 1: the wrong person. You know, things just not as smooth
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: as they should be airs on the field, especially in
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: special teams, which is his baby. And so I was
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: listening to his last podcast and he he was really
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: convinced that, you know, Bill might not have his fastball anymore,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: and he was worried that Bill might try to take
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: on too much and was spending too much time protecting
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: his kids by being by not putting an OC or
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: a DC in there. So I don't know, what do
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: you guys think? Who knows? I mean, I I do
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: worry that he's spread, you know, especially now, Um, he's
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: going to be spread a little too thin. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: I think last offseason was something positive that it had
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: been a common negative couple of years with Brady Levin
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: and missing the playoffs last year. So I think he
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: got a little boost last offseason, But then this season
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: really didn't get you back on that track. So I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I still I still believe that that he can do it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he's got a lot of work to do,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: and I think it's not it's not going to be
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: easy to just all of a sudden have this team
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: back up with Buffalo competing. You know, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: take a couple of years. And I mean, I'm still
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I still want to watch him do it. You just
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  Speaker 1: said something that made me think. You know, you said
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna take a couple of years. Okay, but in
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: ownership's mind that means four years, right? And how much
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: pressure is there on Bill Belichick to win now, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And does that affect decision making? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean? And does he feel that pressure?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Does he feel he's just kind of in the golden
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: years where he's kind of playing with house money at
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: this point, and well, like I can take my time
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: and build or I can't take my time. It depends
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: on how many years he really thinks he's going to
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: continue to coach well, right, you know, like if it's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: one or two years, there's a lot of pressure. Yeah,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: But if he thinks I'm not going anywhere. I got
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: five good years left, then yeah, well you got to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: build it, you do. But is that okay? With the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: crafts to train the new coaches, that might be a
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: lot for a seventy year old tab on his plate,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: right because he's got to train the new coaches, he's
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: got to oversee the entire team. He's still got the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: GM hat so and he's like, okay, can he do
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: this all? And it was an interesting conversation with him
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: in Hannibal. Well, I'll take answer no, that's good, and
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a great point. And you know, you
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: look at bringing in Patricia last year. Maybe you bring
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: in a guy like that with the idea that he
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: can help me, he can help me train these coaches
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: or or whatever. I think that's a good point. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of both. If if i'm him,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: based on his age he's about to turn seventy in
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: the spring, there's a little bit of like, yeah, I've
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll leave when I want to. But I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: think he also realizes like he's not gonna live forever,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: not gonna be around here forever. He's got a little
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: bit like the clock is kind of ticking a little
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: bit here. So I think he's it's it's a little
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: bit of both for him, Like he's he feels the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: need to to win now, which I think we saw
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit of with the way they went out
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: last year and we're trying to acquire all these pieces.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: But also I think he feels like, you know, when
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: once the season ends, all right, let's just turn around,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: let's start it all over again. Let's team But like
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: I think he thinks of it still like as a
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: one off each year as a one off. Oh, I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: agree with that. You know, I also wonder what what
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: parts of the job he really enjoys, what parts of
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: the job are tedious for him and hard to really
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: get right. The second part of that I'm really interested in,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Like I wonder if there is stuff that you know,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: he's never really loved and now that he's done it
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: for so long, that he really avoids. Yeah, because I
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of aspects of coaching and team
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: building that he still loves. Fred and I talked about
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: us all the time, Like you just watched him, and
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: he's the same guy that we saw in like two
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: thousand and two. Like his approach, his demeanor, his enthusiasm,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: it's the same. But I wonder if there's elements of
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the job that he's never really loved that he really
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: hates now after twenty five years or what, you know
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, I think physically, I think
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: he's in good shape for a seventy year old guy.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: I think he's in really good shape. I don't see
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: you know, any drop off mentally, you know, at least
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: from what we see now, I don't think he had
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: a good season, you know, overall, I think I do
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: think he was the defensive coordinator, and I think the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: defense fell apart, you know, so you can't say, oh,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: you know, he had him one of his best years coaching.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: I think if they had come on like they usually
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: do in December and at least won a playoff game,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: then okay, But they didn't. They did the opposite. They
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: fell off. The only game they won was against the
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: lowly Jaguars. Yeah, you know, down the stretch they played miserably.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I guess if to answer your question, Paul, my guests
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: would be he the thing he probably hates the most
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: about being a coach now is having to deal with
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: all the contracts stuff and like, you know, the the
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: us enormity of contracts nowadays as opposed to when he
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: first started, and how that has played into the way
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: players act and having to corral you know what I mean,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Like that's probably changed. I would assume that's probably one
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: of the things. Yeah, I think that's a good point.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's I was thinking more along the lines
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: of the actually actual stuff like just you know, part
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: of the whole process. Like, I kind of wonder how
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: much he's still Like, I don't think he's ever really
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: loved you know, beating the bushes and you know pro
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: like he's generally gone to pro days to his buddies. Yeah,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: he's gone. He's used as as opportunities to go and
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: chat with Nick and you know there's other guys that
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: are on that list. Um, maybe he gets home around
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: his you know, Virginia area and Malan, Yeah, yeah, and whatnot.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: But I wonder if that kind of that he was
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: at a lot of those last year, remember, Yeah, I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: wonder if that kind of stuff I could do without this.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: I think he likes that stuff. Actually, I think he
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: likes You might be right, I didn't like. I don't know.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just speculating, I really do, I think. But I
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: think to Eric's point, like you know, dealing with like
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: guys off the field social media, you know, he's never
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: liked that. No, I agree, he's hated, but that's not
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: really to me. That's not really like I understand that
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: technically it's part of the job. I'm talking about actual football,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: like breaking down there parts of football. Yeah, I think
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: he loves it all. I really do. I believe him
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: when he says I love every aspect of it. Would
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: be a good question, though, because that whatever his answer
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: is would be I think enlightening. Yeah, you know, just
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: to get a little insight into his his lifestyle. Yeah,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's trying. And I think you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: touched on a little erica of matching up a sense
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: of urgency that he's aware the end's coming. I've got
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: to get a team together in that time. And I think,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: like you said, last offseason, it felt like this is
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: what this is what somebody who wants to win within
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the next few years is going to do. But I
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: also think that this team really really needs another really
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: great draft, and we've seen I mean last year was
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: kind of the outlier with multiple guys coming right in
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: contributing three guys that's you know, is he going to
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: be able to get that again? I think those are
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: what he needs to do. If it's if it's really
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I'll give you something that he probably dislikes, if not hates,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: is the rise of the quant you know, like that
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: whole thing, you know, and I know that they've hired
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: like people downstairs that like are more analytical, and it
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: could be like, Okay, you do your thing, I don't
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: want to have anything to do with it. That's probably
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: something where he's he's more hands off. I think that's
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good one. And I do think
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't ignore the numbers. No, we know that. No,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: but I think the way that they have become so prevalent,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: where there's so much scrutiny on why didn't he go
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: for that for you know, like all of a sudden,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the last five years, that has really taken off.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: And I'll bet you that is something that Bill doesn't love.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: We've we've heard him make snarky comments kind of a
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: press conference those kind of up. It's not like the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Patriots are ignoring that aspect. I know he doesn't ignore it. Yeah,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: I know it, but I'm sure it's more like, all right,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: tell me when you get something really good. You know,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: he's not immersed in it. I can tell you that
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: we always seems much more of being in the flow
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: of the game, and you know, kind of just how
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: do I feel. I mean, he's probably he's watched a
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: billion football games and he's seen how they go and
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes he's wrong, a lot of times he's right,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's I think that's a great point.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: It's just so prevalent, and especially when you get rankings
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, yeah, one thing, one thing that
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was may or Judon, I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: keep getting their interviews mixed up, but they mentioned specifically,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: you know, when teams had the RPOs we got, they've
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: got in bad, bad positions. Yeah, why why why did
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: you have trouble handling those RPOs? Because yeah, it is
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: you have to really be, you know, paying attention because
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: anything can happen. But why specifically did that give this
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: team trouble? Yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, schematically, I wish I could dive into a
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: dive tribe what they gotta do. But I mean, really,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I just think it comes down to against those teams,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: they really just haven't been winning. They don't win one
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: on one battles, and I think that's the ultimate key
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: to defense is having guys that can win one on ones.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: And when you had bar More and you had jood
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: On playing well, and they were a load for one
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: blocker to handle, and then teams have to accommodate that.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: And I mean I think that that probably, to me,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: is the biggest connection. It's just not having a defense
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: that can really dictate to an offense. It just seemed
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: like last year down the stretch, they're on their heels
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: and teams are just kind of pick on their spots.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: It's very rare, like an H three, oh four, they
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: get a lead, it was over. He just knew it
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: was over. You know, they had those kinds of defense,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: but that was since then, They've never really had the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: type of defense that goes out and we just do
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: what we do. It's always been a schematic type of
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: thing where you know what their offense has been their defense,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: right right, I think you know, starting around oh five,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: but really kicked in and oh six and then obviously
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: exploded in oh seven. Yeah, the offense has been the defense. Right.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: They get a lead, they beat you. They bludging you
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: to death by getting multiple score leads because you can't
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: stop them. And then they make you one dimensional. They
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: get after the quarterback, they forced turnovers, and the numbers
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: look great until a team doesn't allow the offense to
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: score at will. I would say in four team might
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: be exception when they brought in Rivas and they were better.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: They were just so good in one on one coverage
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: that it elevated the defense. And yeah, you're right, because
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you they had the same defense from
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: six all the way to now. There were years like
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: like eleven was a really bad defense. They went to
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl fourteen that defense was much better than
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: the eleven defense, and they went to the Super Bowl
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: again at that time they won it. Right, So I'm
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: not telling you they had the same defense all the time.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: But the key to the team and the second part
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: of the dynasty was the offense, right, And that wasn't
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: the case in the first part. Now, and it just proves,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: you know, the point that we always makes a lot
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: of different ways to win. And they won three titles
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: doing it with defense first. They won three titles doing
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: it with offense first. You can you can do it
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: that way. What are the special teams first? This year?
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Eldred's on the line. What's up? Aldred? Hey? How you
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: doing it? How y'all doing good? Good? Yeah, I'm sorry
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Stewart training, but h get a little bit better. I'm
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: just a little nervous, a little worried because Uh, I
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: think Bill need to go hire an offensive coordinator. It's
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: taking banking Judge the offensive assistant because he didn't assist
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and he's Joe didn't Brady when he was here.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: So I've just wandered to, you know, where could we
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: get one, a firm one? But this guy, uh promoting
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: from within? What do y'all think? Yeah, I don't know, Mike.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Why don't you read that tweet that from Rappaport that
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: you were talking about? Yeah, that's lost. So there was
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: just Ryan Hannibal was m was tweeting out what Ian
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Rappaport was saying on the radio, and I guess he said,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: it seems like, uh, Brill O'Brien is out of it.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be really just a kind of a group
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: effort between Judge and Nick Kaylee and Nick Lombardi and
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: those guys will do a little bit more. So that's
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: what Ian Rappaport saying today, that that it doesn't seem
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: like you're gonna hire another guy on offense, and it's
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: gonna a couple guys stepping up and Judge entering the
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: next Yeah, so that's like this, that'd be a lot
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: more Bill, and I think he got a little bit
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: too much on them now, to be honest. Yeah, because yeah,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: I really do this time in my hands off off
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: to him. But you have a strong draft and whatever
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: from that. But I just I just just doesn't thick it,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: you know. And this is gonna have to be a rebuild.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think, like I heard Fred
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: earlier about the craft they have to realize it just
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: had to be a rebuild. I mean a rebuilt, not
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: a reboot. So it's gonna be a while. That's why
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, okay, But but I'm hoping a
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: good all right, thanks Aldred. Yeah, I mean I do
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: wonder how the Crafts felt about this last season. There
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: were some certainly some ups. They spent a lot of money,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: there were some some dividends played early, but the ending
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: has to has to sting. Yeah, there's there's places to
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: go up all right. Web radio at Patriots dot com
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: is the email address. Ryan from Potstam writes in can
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: you get Paul a small raise and a budget to
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: have a second podcast where he can talk about the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: league in general? I find his takes on other players,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: teams in other league stories not specific to the Patriots.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Very fascinating. After about the tenth off seams of Mike
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: trying to convince everyone else that nameless, jag and undrafted
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: nobody is going to make an impact on the Patriots,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: talking about other teams regularly is refreshing. Wow. So a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: little shot at Mike. There you go, So all right,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: thanks for nothing. Yeah, I gotta say I've died drove
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: into the draft. I'm all about these Ohio State Alabama
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: guys Like I'm I'm not going to try to sell
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: you on some random six round slot receiver. We need,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: we need a guy, thank you. All these teams have
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: a guy. You need a guy or two or two,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: but you need at least one guy, I think. Mike
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: writes in I just want to say I'm happy for
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Paul this past year. He's had some incredible moments. He
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: has his station, his shows, and now his quarterback Matt Stafford,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: who I believe he wanted to trade Brady for. Finally
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: he makes the Super Bowl. No hard feeling, love you, Paul,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: But does he regret that opinion? I don't think so,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: of course I do on Brady won four titles since then.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Oh you at back back then you wanted to trade Oh,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: this is like two thy ten about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I first of all, trade him while he still him
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: saying that I love Stafford. That that's absolutely valid. I
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: like Matthew Stafford. I think he's a really good player
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: who was on a really bad team for the most part.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: But the part that I regret is I said on
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: the show that I would trade straight up Brady for Stafford.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: You know, thinking in terms of the age now, I
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: could be stubborn and say, yeah, but if he was here,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: if Bill got him, they would have won five Like, no,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: I could be an idiot, they'd still be winning him, right,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I could be an No, No, Brady won four titles.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: That that was a bad That was a bad take.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just gotta take him. These people take notes though,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: like I don't even Oh, but that was Yeah, that
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: was a memorable law. That's another reason why you can't
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: be in charge of deciding who's in and who's out
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame, Mike, Like, that was a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: pretty big one. Where did I wanted to trade Brady
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: for Stafford? Where did Andy land on that? Did he? Oh? Yeah,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: he mocked and rediculed me as he should. Yeah, but
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: he wanted Sam Bradford. He loved he loved Sam Bradford. Yeah,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I don't ever remember him saying that he was he
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: would trade him for but he was like a big
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Sam Bradford. It was one of those you know, I
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: didn't really I didn't go thinking I'm gonna say Brady
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: for stat like that kind of yew Stafford. I was
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: on Mount Mount Cook's out of nowhere I was. I
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: was talking up Stafford and Andy was bullying me as
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: he was wanted to do, and I said something that
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: I later regretted. Uh, the OG later like twenty minutes,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: and here you are, ten years later, taking Mike and
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: stinky Florida. Remember stinky Florida wasn't anything. He said that
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Florida stinks like it just smells. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, he
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: writes in I want to write a book about my frustration,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: but I'll try to make it quick. You guys spoke
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: about the defensive disaster in the playoff game, but seemed
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: to have conveniently forgotten the previous five to six pretty
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: poor games. No, we didn't we sit down the stretch.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: They played miserably. Yeah, except for Jaguars. It's funny how
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: many teams traits always associated with Bill Belichick. Team improves
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: through the year, best after Thanksgiving, never lose two in
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: a row, et cetera, et cetera. Seemed to be absent
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: since the departure of someone. I believe the biggest problem
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: with this team is the week coaching staff in locker
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: room issues which appear to go back to Malcolm Butler
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: and Mullet had funny face and something definitely happened after
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: the bye week this year. If Matt Patricia has a
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: role on defense, then they are all on crack. He
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: has proven a bad coach and an idiot. Oh, come on.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Reference is worse than BB's abuse of reporters. I'm very
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: grateful for the last twenty years, but every day feel
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: more and more that it was mostly due to the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: luck of drafting number twelve. And by the way, just
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: for balance, I think TB twelve is a NOTT too.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Do you offer a coupon code for thorough Gun? He
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: needs to much like Deuce, I have a short little
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: thorough Gun story. Um so TJ who he broke his finger.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: He was out for a month and he finally got cleared,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: so returned to practice his day. Now. TJ is a
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: little like his father. He's not generally the most physically
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: active type when he's not being forced too. So he
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: did very little over that month that he was out
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: um sore. He had Wednesday morning, he had football workouts
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: early morning, like five thirty am. He did that, and
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: then he had wrestling practice after school and did that
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: and ended up doing a rapp ton of running because
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: you know he's not, you know, really ready to go full.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: He could barely walk when he got when he got
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: in the house, broke out the Federy gun and he's
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: like like every time he like put it on his
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: thigh or whatever. He was trying to work it. But
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: he had the Federa gun going for a good half hour. Wow,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: good battery, good battery life it does. So I'm always
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: sad when it. I'm happy with that we're pushing product
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: on this show. I tell you good. Strong endorsement from
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: t J. Parula. Not see any cash form, just like
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: my extra podcast. Right, but he went right over like
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: I was passed over. Mikey uh someone in the Bay Area.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised no one mentioned this on Tuesday. Did anyone
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: watch the thirty for thirty Tuck Rule that aired on Sunday.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: I loved it and it brought back memories instantly to
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: watching that infamous game that snowy night with family. You
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: haven't watched it. It's a sit down with Watch and
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Charles Woodson as they relive the Tuck Rule play. It's
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: a must watch for Patriots fans. I started a couple
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Um, it's it's it's fine. I remember
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: I went into your office friend after I watched it.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: I said, there's a couple of a couple of lighthearted chuckles.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: The best moment, by far is when Charles Woodson, Charles
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Woodson sits down with Brady and they basically watched the
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: game and the play, and but Woodson gets Brady to
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: say say the word fumble, yeah, and he just jumps
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: all what what? What? What? He just like jumps all
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: over him. It was it was good. I thought, Um,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: there were a couple of things in it. Um. The
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: money takeaway is Brady says, had we lost that game,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: who knows, if I get the job, they might they
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: may have stuck with Drew. And of course Bill dismisses
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, and nothing would have changed, like, you know,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: completely ignored, and the fact that, well, history would have changed.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: You would have been knocked out of the first round.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: I personally think Drew still would have gone, but I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: think it's a discussion if you lose that game. Yeah,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: that was one thing that I thought was really interesting
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Brady saying that. I think Brady was being a little
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: bit you know, political, good, good way to phrase it.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: And the other thing was, you know, there was a
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: lot made of that play, and Fred, you and I
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: talked about this. You had the same exact impression that
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: I did. There was a lot made of a well,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: it had happened at the Patriots earlier in the year
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: with Vinny Testaverdi. There was a play that he was involved.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: It was the same exact play. It was the same
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: exact play, and everybody always talks about it like they
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: just say it, well, well, in this documentary they actually
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: show the play. The only there's two things that they
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: have in common, one as it took place in an
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: NFL game, and the other one that was involved a quarterback.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Right after that. There is no comparison between what happened
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: to Brady and what happened Tony Testaverdy. It was the
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: tough rule. But Testa Verdi's testa Verdie's song was coming forward.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: The ball came out of his hand right. It was
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: a clear, incomplete pass. It was like, there'd be nobody again.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to my my dear suite on Carmela
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: would say, no, no, no, that's an incomplete pass. He
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: was throwing. The ball came out of his hand. Yeah,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: nothing other than it being called a tuck rule by
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, by a quarterback, it was not the same.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: It was not the same. And you know, and Bill
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: is like very smugly, yeah, well, well I knew right
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: away because we had had that happen earlier in the year.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: And it's the same call that they made against Testa Verdie.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: And like even Fred was like, can we stop. They
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: don't look anything alike. But but if you but it
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: was haven't seen if you haven't seen the thirty for
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: thirty in the tuck rule. And I know what aired
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Sunday night. Um, it's it's worth the investment. It's it's
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not full hour. Yeah yeah, yeah, at
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: least I think it's an hour. Um, I got a
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I got a trailer which the mind and
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: I got. I got a screener. I call it screener. Yeah,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: very good ahead of time. So I don't really know.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, who who quantifies time? I always thought when
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: they first came out they were all thirty minutes. I
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: thought that's what it was supposed to be about, right,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: But um Sloman goes on for current Patriots news, I
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: saw a clip of match Juden ninety eight point five
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: saying that individual Patriots late in the season, we're trying
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: to do their own thing to make plays instead of
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do in the role. I
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: thought that was an interesting comment in ironic since Kyle
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: van Noy made a slide no comment when asked recently
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: if Judon was playing out of what he was supposed
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: to do. That's what I thought of. Emailer, did you
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: catch the Judeon comments and thoughts? Is it possible multiple
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: players were trying to do too much on their own? Absolutely? Yeah.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: I mean I mean i'd maybe throw it like God,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: somebody like God cha in the mix, somebody who's not
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: really new to it. Who I think they have specific
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: things they want him to do. But I don't know.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: We have a budding little rivalry here in the linebacker room.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Not good if there is Josh Richardson getting traded by
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: the Celtics, a lot of trades going on. Again, you
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: can't be the Hall of Fame guy for the NBA. Well,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: that's that's for sure. Yeah, there's one thing about the
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Judeon thing that I you know, I do think there is.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: I think there's a tendency among players coaches when things
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: don't go well, like, let's make sure that if we
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: we're gonna offer up all kinds of reasons, but one
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: of them can't be we ain't good enough or we
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: can't coach them well enough. Those can't be options. So
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: you know, we had some players maybe playing a little bit,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: trying to make plays on their own, getting a little
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: out of the system. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think you
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: were good enough, flat out say it. I don't think
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: they were good enough on defense. So I think there
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: were situations where guys were you know, maybe we're trying
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: to do too much. Yeah. Absolutely. Was it more in
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: the last six weeks than was in the first six weeks,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I doubt it. But to me,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: the bottom liners, they got to get better run defense.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: They never they will never admit that. But you know what,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm somebody like I think it's very easy when something
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: goes bad, yeah, to not say, well, you know what,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: just we're just not good enough, you know, Man for man,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Buffalo has better players than we Yeah, because that to
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: me was the indication the day after Christmas in the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: playoff game, the other team had better players than you
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: did on the field. Yeah, And that's why they were
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: like in a weird position because they they had some
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: success and they won some games and they got into
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Whereas a three win team, we stink, but
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: we won three win games, we should be good. Where
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: three win teams don't say yeah, we had a lot
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: of guys trying to do it all. You know, we
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: got to build. We got there in that they're in
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: that nether region where you won some games, you built
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: up some expectations and people thought you were good and
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: then and then it all fell apart at the end,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it was terrible market fall.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: River Rights in quick note to say, I just finished
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: the two thousand and one podcast series and I absolutely
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: loved it. You guys did a tremendous job pulling that together,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: and it was a fun ride. As someone who has
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: been a fan for a long time and owns the
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: DVDs and has watched so much about it. There were
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: new and fresh ideas from the guys who lived it.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Couldn't recommend it enough to others. It was hard to
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: find time for another podcast during the season, so I
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: caught up after the season. Was so glad I did.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: I hope you'll maybe do this again for other topics.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Some interesting topics might be the streak in a couple
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: of years, or eighteen and one after that, or even
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: the eighty five or ninety six teams. Was really impressed
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: with the job, especially from Mike and the production team.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the hard work. Well it was Mike and
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: that that was the production team. Well thank you that So, yeah,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: that's cool. I'm glad. I'm glad. I mean that just
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to try to do, just have
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: something new because I know all those DVDs, I've seen
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, you know, to have a little bit
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: of a new perspective. So I appreciate to comment. And yeah,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we should. We should think of some other
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: things for other topics. You know, maybe you know, it
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a podcast, could be video, you
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: know whatever, but we should. Yeah, yeah, that was fun.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Gary is an east hanover New Jersey um pivotal year
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: two coming from Mac Jones in terms of his development,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: hopefully improvement now that Joe Judge is back as an
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: offensive assistant. I can't believe there is not another higher
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: coming up to coach up Mac, so he thinks there
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: is somebody. Does Judge have any experience in coaching quarterbacks
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: or scripting a game plan and calling plays? Have any
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: of you heard about a possible return of Jerry Schloplinsky
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: to coach the quarterbacks? Has there been any to talk
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: about Zach Robinson from the Rams? No, Please give me
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: some hope. I don't see Judge maximizing Max's potential. I
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: don't know Jerry Shoplinsky have any experiences. I don't know.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, it's it's
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: gonna be all Bill again. I just it's hard. It's
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: hard to get on board if everything's just the same.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: And I think there'll be more additions that will round
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: things out a little bit more. But it might be
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: like this. But look, I think you have to. People
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: have to realize too, the guys who have experienced were
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: once inexperienced and somebody had to take a chance and
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: give them the experience. So who knows if Nick Kayley
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: or Mick Lombardi or even Joe Judge are the next
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: great you know, offensive minds in this league. Somebody needs
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: to give them a chance to do it. You know
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: you can. I mean, experience just doesn't happen. You have
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: to have somebody give you the opportunity. Um Claire writes
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: in Hello everyone, Hello girl. I really like Deuce's thoughts
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: on the coaching building from within and side note Fred,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: if Kayley gets the OC job anyway, I can get
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: a PU sponsored flight over to step in as the
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: tight end coach. Please you stop it. Somebody likes Nick Kayley.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: She likes tight ends. Oh she does, that's her thing.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Oh she doesn't like Nick Kyley, that's her thing. She
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: would just like Nile has a tight end. Basically read
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: the next ing uh spees and fresno U. The rest
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: of Bill's career is hingent upon Mac's success. I'm excited
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: for McClellan's year two, but we'll have to see if
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: he builds the skills that pay the bills. Does he
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: have someone like a Tom House figure in his life?
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: I think he didn't. He have a quarterback coach that
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Alabama hired or No, He's had a couple different He's
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: really had a tough goal of it. He had to
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: wait till he was a junior in high school. Mike
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: Brady who got it when he was a sou I'd
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: like Mike to do some undercover work on that, because,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: aside from the perfunctory juicing the league obviously allows, mister
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Jones needs some elite level training if he's going to
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: be the guy. I believe. Burrow, when interviewed before a
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: playoff game this year, mentioned that uh train changes to
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: throwing motion, particularly in the hips, can help with velocity.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Let's get maxim of that interaction. What now? Am I
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: am um making something up that Tom House actually reached
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: out and offered. I thought I remember something like that.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: I think he offered an interview. Yes, I believe maybe
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: on something that said, oh we can we can get
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: him in shape. I don't but I don't know if
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: they were directly. Well, no, I think you know Tom
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: House is like a throwing guy. That's not going to
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: get him in shape. No, I think he was asked
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: about his throwing. Yeah, those are two different things. I personally,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't really see a lot of fundamental flaws with
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Yeah, I mean I don't. I think he
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: throws the ball. Yeah, like I you know, my mind,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: and I'm not an expert by all means, but he
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: throws the ball normal, Like I don't like Cam Newton.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: We used to talk about the feet being parallel to
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: you know, like you can see like that. That ain't right,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: That's not how the other guys do it. Right. Mac
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Jones doesn't like the other guys do it. Maybe he
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: can do the Dak Prescott thing where I mean everybody,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: everybody can improve. But I think his biggest area, you
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: know that he needs to work on it is himself.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: His body. Yeah, he needs to get stronger and get
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: in better shape. He did look good in the pro
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: bowling uniforms. I have to say, I saw some of
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: these things and I'm not very sure sculptured, you know,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: athletic athletic V cut you know that definitely wasn't on display. Bigger,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: shoulder pads were bigger, I know, But look good. He's
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: got a big flatjacket. You know. The camera adds ten
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: pounds uh Neil from New Brunswick. They're heavy cameras. I
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: think Bill's age and the pursuit of the Winds record
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: is a big problem. It forced him to reload instead
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: of rebuild. Now we're stuck in the middle. We way
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: overpaid for a backup tight end in number three wide receiver.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: And if we really want to get tough on Bill,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: how about the fact we took Harry over Deebo Samuel
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: in the twenty nineteen draft. There's the number one receiver
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: that at least one person per show calls in to say,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: that is the thing we're missing. I tell you, though,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Deebo say, I mean, well, he's a beast. He really is.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: I mean just a football player. He is just a
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: football player. Like he runs hard, yeah, you know for
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver to run like the way I saw
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: him running that game against the Green Bay like between
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: the tackles. Yeah, I know, he's a player. Yep. That's
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: what's frustrating, because like my limited draft researcher was like,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: this is their kind of guy. This is it, like
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: you watching, this is what they do. And then you
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: watch Nikill Harry, You're like, that's not really their kind
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: of guy. Like all respect to him in another system whatever,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: but that's what was frustrating. Those guys like the same
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: thing with a J. Brown, Like that's their guy, you know,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: a big, physical kind of guy that can do a
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: bunch of different things. And just and now I feel
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: like they kill Harry as we start to do the
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: draft stuff has scared me away from all these you know,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: big receivers and you know, talking with Paula by a
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: little bit, and you know, you start to watch the highlights,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: he's like, man, every single catches what the Harry thing is?
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: He down the field, he jumps up, he catches it
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: and he falls down, you know, and instead of like
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: guys like you know, the Alabama guys Williams and uh
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: and what's his face? Uh might see my brain is
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: a Washington and people right now, I keep want to
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: say Henry Ruggs, it's not Ruggs, it's it's it's John Mechi. Sorry,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: but you know, those are the guys that are are
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: quick and move them around and quick and who as
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: you say, he wasn't panishing. I could have probably, yeah,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: but that's just what's frustrating when you see, you know
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: what they like and then they tack. And all right,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: it's that time of the show. We have to turn
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: our attention to the big game, the Cincinnati Bengals in
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. But Paul, what happened last week?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: Before we do that, Fred, I will tell you that
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: we all went one and one okay the conference championship
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: weekend um and on the spread, Eric went one and
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: one okay. The rest of us were owing two. So playoffs.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: Fred and Paul eight and four. Nothing wrong with eight
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: and four, Mike and Eric six and six. A lot
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: wrong with that, very very mediocre with the spread, as
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Fred likes to say, where the men are separating from
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: the boys. Paul is eight and four. Oh, Fred is
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: seven and five. Eric is five and seven, Mike is
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: four and eight. Keeping my sight going, I make no
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: take no responsibility for any errors in the calculations. Mary
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Blendie will take it. So we've we've got one more
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: game left. Paul's the what's the spread with this game?
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: The ROMs by four ms bour Now that hasn't moved.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: It started. I believe it opened at three and a half.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it went up to four. I think
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: it's up to four. Okay, what do the Sharps know?
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: What do the sharps? When did they do it? I
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: think the Sharps know something. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: gonna go with the Rams. Pool informations coming in. I
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: think I think the Rams got too many veterans. Um.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: I think that they're uh, you know, they're talented players.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: I like Aaron Donald up front, you know, going up
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: and trying to get Joe Burrow out of the pocket.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: I just think the Rams are gonna have a little
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: bit too much. I hope it's a close game, but
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: I can see the Rams by maybe about ten points.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: I got them. Okay. I think we should add a
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: couple of things in here because it's just one game. Okay,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: um MVP also, who yeah, I'll take a I'm gonna
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: take Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup is the MVP. I think
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: we'll have a bunch of catches, kind of like Edelman
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: did attack in that that Cincinnati thing. Yes, okay, I
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: mean everything do said about the Rams. I think if
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: you're looking at it strictly on paper is right. I
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: think the Rams have, you know, guys with more experience
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: certainly the head coach has been in the Super Bowl before,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: so he has that, you know, to lean on. They
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: added a bunch of talented players. Um, but I'm not
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: gonna pick with my head this time. I'm gonna pick
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: with my gut. And my gut is telling me that
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: we're going to see a repeat of twenty years ago
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: when an upstart team defeated the Rams in the Super Bowl. Uh.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take the Bengals to win this game
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: thirty to twenty six. Okay, and my MVP is gonna
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: be Joe cool Burrow. All right, Okay. You know somebody
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: was saying, um, well, it's always a quarterback who's the MVP.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: That's not true. It's it's a lot of times, a
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: lot of times. Yeah, but you know they're have a
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: handful of you know. Yeah, Edelman was one, Branch was one. Yeah, um,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: von Miller won it. But in general, it's Larry Brown.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: Larry Brown, did you have a final score? I apologize
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: I did not. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: Rams twenty seven seventeen. Okay. Uh, I am with Deuce here.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I like the Rams. I think there's a pretty significant
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: gap in talent, I think the Rams talent is better.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: I do worry a lot about their secondary with all
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: those injuries, and I do think that the Bengals where
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: their talent lies is with those receivers and borrows a
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: bill to get the ball to him. But much like
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: last year, I think the offensive line becomes a problem
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: in a big spot. And I think the Bengals offensive line,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, is one of the worst in football
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: UM and I think ultimately, like Kansas City, I think
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be done in by it in in the
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: biggest spot. I think the Rams win this game as
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: long as they can sort of get out of their
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: own way and not hurt the cause. Like no stupid
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: challenges Jean McVeigh, no stupid picks by my boy. Yeah,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, I think they win this game. I'm gonna
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: say thirty to seventeen. Yeah, Paul, I think we're in lockstep.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: And Matthew Stafford is my MP. I'm gonna give you
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  Speaker 1: my MVP first and it'll tell you how I think
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: this game's gonna go. It's gonna be a Donald and
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: much for what just Paul, just you know outline. I
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a day. And I think I think,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: you know, the nine sacks that Burrow took two he
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: may not have nine, but he's gonna be sacked and
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: he's gonna it's gonna be Aaron Donald doing a lot
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: of damage. And unfortunately, folks, I don't think this is
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be much of a game. Yeah, I think I think, uh,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a dominant you know, you're gonna see
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati offense not be able to do much and uh,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's a thirty five fourteen win for the
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: for the ROMs. Wow. I hope you're wrong on that
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: aspect of I want to be a good game. But
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: I think if if, if the Rams front has their way,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a game. It's not gonna be
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: a game. They're gonna take away Chase and they're gonna
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: get at Burrow and it's it's ball game, bubble game.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: What about Higgins and he's not gonna have time? Oh okay,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: what you said they take away Chase. Yeah, they're gonna
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: take him away. They have some other talent though, they do,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: but you know it's gonna be I mean, if they's
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: gonna have time to go to the number two option.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just boom boom boom. Maybe yeah, well,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: I mean by Eric's hooker. I think if Joe, if
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: they win, Joe Burrow in this game. I mean, this
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: is a it's a tough matchup on paper for them,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: but I mean, all credit to him if he's able
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: to pull this out. I just have It's just one
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: of those feelings, you know. I mean, like they were
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: a good story throughout the playoffs. It would be good
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: for the NFL too, like to have like a you know,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: a new team, a different team, twenty first team. As
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: we were talking about, Well, I guess you could also
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: say it's good to have a team in LA win
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: it too, because they're so dead set on making LA work.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, but I mean LA is gonna work
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: just because you've got that fantastic stadium and you've got
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: I know, but even that last game have to I know,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: they were It's true, it's true. Do you want to
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: share any or ancillary reasons for picking the Bengals? Oh yeah,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: we uh. I have a wildlife calendar up in my
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: office area upstairs, and last month was that the picture
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: was of a tiger yeah, and so we were joking around.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: At the end of the month, I was like, wow,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: this was the month of the uh the Tiger for
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: the Bengals because they won all those playoff games. I'm like,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: but you know, I got to change the calendar. I
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: flipped the calendar over and it says February for Chinese
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: New Year, Year of the Tiger. So I'm saying, all
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: these things are coming together if the Bengals are gonna win. Wait,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: was it a tiger calendar? And then I realized it's
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: actually a tiger calendars, Eric's wildlife calendar from what I
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: was like. And if there's a ram on thee I
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: get it from donations year years of making donations. But
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: I have my own. If there was one animal that
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: you say, we have to save this animal or like
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: keep it protected, what would it be? Which which one?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Just one? Yeah? Just one, like of all the animals
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: right now, it's like Eric Sophie Choyce. Yeah, I know,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: it's terrible. I would go right now with elephants. I'm
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: with you, Nice, I'm with you. I'm with the elephant, Pio.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Why why are we screwing with them? Just why we're
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: screwing with them, But why do you have such an
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: affinity for him. I think they're I think they're pretty smart.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: And the way they take care their kids and all that,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: and you know, like the way they treat them. They
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: hunt them down and cut off their tusks and their
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: hoofs and it's terrible. It is and it's and it's
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: for no good reason either, Like we're gonna need to
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: get into that kind of Sarah McLaughlin at here, Nah,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. Wales is another good one too, Yeah,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: they've been persecuted for too long too. Yeah, so big guys,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: you know, a gentle giants. Yeah, leave them alone. I
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: see no reason why we need to have species on
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: the verge of extinction. I agree with you on that. Yeah.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: All right, Well that's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: I hope everyone enjoys Super Bowl weekend, whoever you're um
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: picking or even if you're just watching. Yeah, I have
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: a good time. I hope we're wrong, and I hope
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: Eric's right. I hope it's a close game. Yeah, I
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: do too. I just I don't want to play. I
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: just think, I think, and hopefully the trend continues, because
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: like the Divisional weekend. The games were great AFC, you know,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: and Chip Weekend. The games all came down to the
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: end too. That it continues. Yeah, that's how I feel, right,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: do it blow out? Yeah? All right, Um, we'll see
• 1:58:09
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