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Geno Auriemma vs. Dawn Staley: Who was right? Who was wrong? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  A beautiful woman. We are now talking to CEO of The
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  Draft Network, Paige Demacos. What's up guys?
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  Paige, what's up? What's going on?
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  What's going? Listen, I was thoroughly
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  entertained by the Angel Reese conversation that was happening
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  because I am a Chicagoan and I can tell you that half of those
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  rebounds, she got up her own shots.
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  So we're happy. We are happy to take those two
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  first round picks and say, say la vie Angel, we're trying to
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  play back. We're trying to play basketball
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  in Chicago, baby. We're not trying to mess around.
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  I'm not trying to mess around. I like that she uses say la vie.
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  I mean, any, any other words, any other words you could teach
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  us or some of our fans right now listening to the show?
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  Oh, listen, I don't know how many Greeks are on the show, but
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  if you want to insult somebody, you can call them a malacca.
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  A Malacca? What does that sound?
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  For yeah. What's the stand for?
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  It's it's it encompasses pretty much every bad word that exists
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  in the English language is Malacca.
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  Speedy or a Malacca? You're a Malacca.
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  I'm not very young, doesn't qualify.
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  You're a Malacca speedy. For all the fans out there,
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  that's. The questions with Speedy.
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  You can call me a Malacca because I'm wearing this ugly
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  whatever you call this. Absolutely.
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  Yeah, Malacca. I'm a Malacca.
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  I'm a Malacca. Whatever you got on.
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  This is perfect. Yeah, this is.
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  This is a lot of Malacca behavior on.
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  Here. Perfect.
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  Did you just call me? Did you call me a libida?
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  Is that what you just said? I mean, I know about that, but
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  I, I, I guess I'm a Malacca. Anyways, Paige, I want to get
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  into some some football. I saw some of your posts and you
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  were speaking about The Jets and you were talking about
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  quarterbacks and that The Jets might be interested in a
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  quarterback in this year's draft.
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  I love Ty Simpson now, I'm not moving up to try to get him.
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  You know, Quinton's, you know, making and he's smiling.
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  But I think this kid has great footwork.
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  I think he's a great arm. I think sitting behind Geno
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  Smith for a year, it gives him some time.
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  You don't want to go into next year's draft and start this guy
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  or whoever you decide to draft if it's a Manning or it's a more
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  who decided to go back into this year's draft?
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  I mean, just this year's offseason and college football
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  with organ. I mean, right now, Ty Simpson
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  could be a guy that you sit out, let him learn the offense on the
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  Frank Wright and and figure out, you know, who he is as an NFL
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  player. What are your thoughts, Jets?
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  If he's sitting there at 16, I don't think he will be Ty
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  Simpson going to the New York Jets.
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  I think he will be there at 16 because the only team that's
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  really evaluating him and thinking about him as a first
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  round pick is that are The Jets. That's really you're talking
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  about The Jets and the Cardinals like Ty Simpson a lot, but it's
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  way too rich at three. So the conversation with the
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  Cardinals that I've had a lot of back and forth with them on is
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  for them to come back into the first round.
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  The Jets have the benefit of obviously having two first round
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  picks. There's no chance you take him
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  at 2. That would be an absolute reach
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  at the highest level, considering where we are
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  evaluated awaiting him at this point. 16 would still be a
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  little rich for me. I'd love for him to be able to
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  to be able to come in at the at the first part of the second of
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  the second round. That would be the perfect
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  situation. But we know how The Jets are and
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  we also know how your owner is and Woody Johnson can't help
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  himself. That's your that's your that's
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  your biggest problem when it comes to setting your draft
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  board thinking you got a plan and then the plan changes last
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  minute because he's very disruptive with what happens in
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  the draft process. And that's just a part that you
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  have to factor in. You've got a weird situation now
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  where Aaron Glenn is now in year 2, but with a totally new staff,
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  got guys that he brought in necessarily right at the
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  beginning. And so now I'm looking at this
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  and I'm going, okay, how is this gonna work out, right?
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  How do The Jets turn the corner from doing the same damn thing
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  every single year, right, guys? Like, sorry, I got I got a cough
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  in my 'cause I'm talking about Woody and I'm and I'm getting
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  excited, right? I'm getting excited.
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  That's that's what happens. But I think the reality is I
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  like Ty Simpson a lot. He's a good he's I, I had a
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  great interview with him. I saw him.
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  I've talked to his coaches, but he is a player that you cannot
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  start right away. So do you trust The Jets?
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  This is a question for you guys. Do you trust The Jets and the
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  and the New York media to allow him an entire year to red shirt
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  'cause that's what has to happen.
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  He needs to come and that's the problem.
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  There lies the problem because yes, in theory it's a great idea
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  to think that he could sit for an entire year behind Gino
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  because that's what needs to happen.
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  The problem is I know New York, I know the media and I know The
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  Jets owner and that won't happen.
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  He will be forced to play way too early.
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  Gino will struggle and they will put him in and it will be a
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  disaster. So to me, unless you can change
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  the behavior of your owner and you can guarantee me that the
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  New York media is going to actually allow a player the
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  amount of time he needs to to develop.
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  It's a tough situation. I like Ty, but he's not ready.
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  He's not he's not going to be a guy that's going to come and be
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  ready to go right away. He's only had 15 starts in
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  college. He is not ready to go play in
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  New York and ready to rock. He's got a lot of upside player
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  I like, but hopefully somebody can get a hold of Woody Johnson,
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  not allow him to get on the phone and make any phone calls
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  maybe and that'll and that'll be the way you get this done.
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  Can't be a paddle, That's what you need.
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  I have a paddle or a nice jets paddle.
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  Pull down those pants and spank it a couple times.
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  Do not, do not play this guy this year.
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  I like Ty Simpson too. I think he has great footwork.
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  I think he's got great arm. He played on Alabama team that
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  wasn't overly talented this year.
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  Everybody keeps saying they were, they really weren't.
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  They didn't have those positions that were dominant.
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  Their offensive line sucked. They had no offensive line and
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  and they're running game, which has been dominant for years.
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  They they lost their running back early in the season and
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  they couldn't find 1. So I, I thought he was really,
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  really good. He was a Heisman Trophy
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  candidate until the last money of the The last month I said
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  money last month of the season. So I.
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  To your to your point like this isn't we're not arguing whether
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  there's no argument this this team's roster was not what to a
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  tongue by law had two ahead first rounders all over first
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  round wide receiver, wide receiver, running back, backup
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  running back like this this Alabama roster as far as skilled
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  position players was not what we have seen over the last decade.
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  It just wasn't. And so you have to factor that
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  into the evaluation when you're talking about looking at this
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  guy, it's not what we are accustomed to seeing from
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  Alabama. So yes, he had up and down
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  moments much like most quarterbacks do in college.
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  You like the upside, you like the fact that as far as places
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  to play the position, Alabama is one of the toughest, if not the
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  toughest environments to have to play the quarterback position.
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  You are under constant scrutiny. You can't go to a gas station
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  without somebody heckling you non-stop.
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  But that is mentally. I asked him that when I
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  interviewed him, I said, do you feel comfortable handling any
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  market because of Alabama? And he said, listen, I, I
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  couldn't go to class. I couldn't like you can't go
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  anywhere, right? You, you are constantly being
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  heckled, evaluated, disrupted. And so to me, that part of him
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  too is very, I guess as as prepared for the New York media
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  as you can be. Alabama quarterbacks are have a
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  leg up because they are just scrutinized at a level because
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  there's nothing else to do in Alabama.
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  All they got is the Crimson Tide.
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  So that that is it's constant. It never ends.
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  And he also had the unfortunate part of saving, retiring where
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  they did not prepare for that. They switch over to Caitlin
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  Dubois. It's a totally different system.
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  Not what he was expecting. I like Ty, I like the upside.
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  I just don't like what The Jets do to quarterbacks.
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  That's it. And there's not much else I
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  could say. By the way, we are talking to
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  CEO of The Draft Network, Paige Demacos.
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  So what I really want to get into is Jeremiah Love, who I met
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  at the Heisman Trophy dinner. I liked him.
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  A lot of people, a lot of people didn't really attack him when it
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  came to Notre Dame because I thought they got robbed.
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  Even though Miami made that run all the way to the national
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  championship, a lot of people thought that Notre Dame should
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  have been there. They should have been one of
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  those teams, and nobody harped on it.
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  Nobody attacked him. And he was very polite, very
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  accustomed to the cameras in front of his face.
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  Now there there's some stories coming out that Jeremiah Love
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  could be slowly moving up in the draft.
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  Some people think he could be in the top five.
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  He could go 5 to the Giants. What are your thoughts of
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  Jeremiah Love? Do you think he's a top five
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  talent? He's a, he's a as good a
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  prospect as you can have coming out of college like he is.
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  He checks every box. He is as good as as good as
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  advertised, if to me, even better.
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  What he and Jadarian Price were asked to do by Marcus Freeman is
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  something that most guys are not doing in this age of NIL and the
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  transfer portal splitting carries, choosing your mates,
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  staying loyal, being there, not being because in any other
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  system, Jeremiah loves coming and they're going.
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  You're the man You're not. We're not splitting carries.
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  We're not, we're not. There's no split back field.
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  There's no hey, you are the guy and we don't got to worry about
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  it. He him humbling himself under
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  Marcus Freeman in tandem with Jadarian Price.
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  I had a conversation with both of them and with Marcus.
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  To me, that's the part of him, just the intangibles, who he is
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  as a teammate. I mean, if you guys watch Jameer
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  Gibbs, right, and you see the impact he makes of the Detroit
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  Lions, the bigger, faster, stronger version of him is, is
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  Jeremiah Love. I'm, I don't, I don't know how
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  much else to say. The Detroit Lions got heckled
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  for that pick and now what? Nobody says nothing because 45%
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  of plays this year in the NFL were run plays.
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  So maybe we need to stop pretending like running backs
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  don't matter because they do matter.
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  Jeremiah Love is the most explosive player coming out of
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  this draft. To me, he's the most guaranteed
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  pick that you can make. Is this guy.
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  I, I, he's, I, I would take him on any team.
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  There's no way you can't figure out a way for him to be
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  successful. He's as good as good as
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  advertised, if not better. And yeah, I think any team would
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  be very lucky to have Jeremiah. Skill sets.
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  Insane full sets. So you gotta go in the top five.
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  He might go top five. I think the Tennessee Titans are
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  bluffing. I think the, I think the Titans
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  are bluffing and I think they're gonna take him.
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  I think they, I think they're, they're very good, very good
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  opportunity for him to go there cuz to, to pair him with Cam
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  Ward would give Cam such a leg up as far as a young quarterback
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  having somebody that you can rely on.
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  You look at that wide receiver room.
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  There's not, there's a lot left to be desired.
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  And as much as I like these wide receivers, I don't want to take
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  a receiver in the top five. There's no, there's nobody that
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  I'm like super in love with. I'd rather take Jeremiah Love.
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  And so to me, if you're if you want to help your young
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  quarterback and you need offensive weapons, the best
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  offensive weapon in this draft is Jeremiah Love.
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  That's the direction. And I also know how the game
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  played. I love that Robert Salas sitting
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  there. Yeah, I I love my running
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  backroom. Yeah.
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  What do you expect him to say? They're all saying that like,
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  yeah, that's this is this is what happens.
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  But the Giants would be interesting if they take them at
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  top five because we all know how the Saquon Barkley situation
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  went back and forth and Joe Shane's there still.
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  It's I think there's an emotional situation that happens
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  with that conversation, but he's not making the calls.
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  Anyways. John Harbaugh is going to be the
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  one with the final say. So I don't know that it matters
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  what what Joe Sheen thinks at this juncture.
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  So you kind of answered the first part of my question
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  already about Carnell Tate going in the top five.
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  It doesn't seem like you have MSA top five pick.
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  I was just asking a lot of the other general wide receivers,
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  Jordan Tyson I've seen like top ten ratings.
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  Obviously Makai Lemon, there was a whole combine issues with him,
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  but now they think it would be a backup in the first round.
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  How do you conceive the perceive the wide receiver rankings in
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  this draft overall value wise? Yeah, I mean, I like all these
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  receivers, the guys you just mentioned, there's a lot of
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  upside for all those guys. But when I specifically to the
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  Titans at 4:00, I just, I wouldn't, I would rather if it's
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  Jeremiah Love or Carnell Tate, it's Jeremiah Love for me.
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  If it's Jeremiah Love or Mackayla Mackay Lemon, it's
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  Jeremiah Love. Like I understand you're
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  evaluating two different positions, but I'm evaluating
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  total impact to the offense. And to me, teams get themselves
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  in trouble when they don't draft the best player available.
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  And that's when you go into the draft, your perfect process is
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  you are not needy in any position.
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  Now, the best franchises do that.
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  Most a lot of franchises don't because they're not very good at
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  this, right? They're constant turnover.
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  So to me, that's where I look at this and I go, OK, all these
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  receivers, there's a lot of teams that are needy of
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  receivers going into this draft and they're lucky that this this
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  draft class is a lot of guys that are that are worthwhile as
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  far as total package as a receiver, I like a lot of these
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  guys. I like Casey Concepcion, I like,
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  I like Jordan Tyson, I like Mackay Lemon.
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  These are all guys that I Mackay fields from Notre Dame.
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  There's a lot of guys in this draft that you can get, but the
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  difference between Malachi Fields to me that you could
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  potentially get at the end of the first round or maybe even
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  the beginning of the second round or second round.
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  And Mackay Lemon and Cardinal Tate.
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  I don't know that I I don't know that I would evaluate taking
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  them in the top five. I think it passed that point.
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  Yeah, I'd feel comfortable. I'd feel pretty comfortable.
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  Going to the end of the month, you know, being the trap, who's
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  your sleeper pick this year going into the draft that not
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  really getting a lot of notoriety but is jumping out to
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  you? Yeah, Zion, young pass rusher
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  from from Missouri, freak of nature, was up close and
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  personal at the Senior Bowl. Watched him every day and the
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  one on ones just destroy people, manhandle people that defense.
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  They had a lot of continuity. That Missouri team was, to me,
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  very underrated in college football this year.
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  If you watch them, they were really damn good football team.
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  There's a lot of talent that came out of that school.
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  Zion is the youngest of 12 kids. When you come from that you just
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  any anytime a player tells anytime a player tells me I'm
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  the youngest of insert 3 or more children.
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  I know that that guy got beat up his whole life and he's got a
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  toughness level that you can't replicate right?
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  Because there's just there's just something that happens when
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  you got 4 kids and the youngest, the youngest is just getting
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  bullied all day long. That's what happens when you got
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  11 older brothers and sisters. You just get your ass whooped.
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  Like that's just every day all day.
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  And he just has this level of toughness and also understanding
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  that I think a lot of players that play that position don't
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  necessarily always have. So, yeah, he's a guy.
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  There's a lot of great defensive players in this draft class,
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  especially at the edge position. But I think Zion's not really
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  getting enough love as far as how good he was and quite
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  frankly, how dominant he was at the Senior Bowl when a lot of
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  these guys were all right in front of us.
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  And Zion was one of the ones that really showed out,
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  including winning MVP of the game on Saturday.
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  We are talking to CEO of the Draft Network, Paige Demacos.
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  You know, Paige, Ruben Bain has been a guy that a lot of people
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  love. They love him.
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  He didn't really show his talents at the combine.
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  He does have his pro day and he's going to prove everything
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  he's worth. But a lot of people think his
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  arm length is not NFL quality and a lot of people are going to
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  pass on him because of certain athletically the athletic things
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  that he might have wrong going into this year's draft.
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  But a lot of guys, a lot of pass rushers that I speak to that
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  have been in the NFL, college players, college coaches, even
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  high school coaches that I talk about Ruben Bayne, how talent
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  talented this kid is. Everybody thinks this guy could
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  be the best pass rusher in this draft.
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  What are your thoughts to Ruben Bayne?
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  Who do you think might move up or might draft this kid?
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  Yeah. So this is probably one of the
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  most polarizing top process aspects that I can recall since
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  I've been covering the draft since 2018.
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  And that's because people in the NFL personnel do not like to
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  bank on the outliers, right? And that's what you're banking
• 17:45
  on here when you're talking about there is not a single
• 17:48
  double digit sack artist that has had 30 inch arms or less,
• 17:53
  right? So he does not fit the the mold
• 17:56
  of what is the norm in the NFL and that's not for five years
• 18:00
  you're talking about. It has never happened in the
• 18:02
  last 20 years. There's never been a double
• 18:04
  digit sack guy that comes with his measurables.
• 18:07
  That being said, his tape is so good, right?
• 18:11
  That people are just that this is going to be that one where
• 18:16
  people are going to, they're going to bank on him continuing
• 18:19
  to do this at the next level because the tape is so good.
• 18:22
  The tape is so good and he's done it consistently for a very
• 18:25
  long time. But this is the conversation
• 18:28
  that I probably had the most with NFL personnel because
• 18:31
  everybody split, including within their own organizations
• 18:35
  where you've got some personnel guys that are like, you know
• 18:37
  what, we're willing to take the risk and some that aren't to me
• 18:40
  when you are, The Jets said, too, right, you can't take that
• 18:44
  risk. You're not in a position to
• 18:46
  afford yourself the opportunity to not take the more sure thing
• 18:50
  when there's too many excellent defensive players coming out of
• 18:54
  this draft, right, Arvel Reece, Sonny Styles, There's there's
• 18:57
  there's too many guys that we know for sure not only fit the
• 19:00
  athletic measurables, but the tape is also excellent as well.
• 19:04
  So I do think he's going to be a top draft flick.
• 19:07
  I don't think that this is going to keep him from dropping.
• 19:11
  You say, you know, out of the first round that could, but I
• 19:13
  don't think there's any chance that that happens.
• 19:15
  But I do know that there are a lot of organizations that are
• 19:19
  afraid because he is not the mold of what they're used to.
• 19:23
  And nobody likes to bank on the outlier.
• 19:26
  It's just you don't want to be the guy that gets made fun of at
• 19:28
  the next NFL owners meetings because you drafted the guy and
• 19:32
  you thought you could make him the man, right?
• 19:34
  So I think he needs to go to a system where it's not going to
• 19:37
  be instantaneously. He's the only guy, right.
• 19:40
  Maybe they got a guy on the other side to make sure that
• 19:43
  he's he's not going to be the only one getting to the
• 19:44
  quarterback. So we'll see.
• 19:46
  I like the tape. I like the player a lot.
• 19:48
  I I tend to think the measurable stuff is a little bit overhyped
• 19:52
  in the scouting community, but this is one of those ones that's
• 19:55
  like it's hard to justify when he there isn't a single double
• 19:59
  digit sack artist that fits this the this mold.
• 20:02
  Car now Carnal Tate is a guy that everybody keeps talking
• 20:06
  about. This guy's the best wide
• 20:08
  receiver in this class is the explosive.
• 20:10
  This guy's injury prone Ohio State Buckeyes.
• 20:13
  We've seen how many Buckeyes come out of the draft and become
• 20:16
  superstars in the NFL. One of them, Mr. Najiba, he's
• 20:20
  pretty damn good. Garrett Wilson with the New York
• 20:22
  Jets is pretty damn good. We could go on and on and on.
• 20:25
  What Ohio State brings to the forefront when it comes to wide
• 20:28
  receiver, receiver position? Carnell Tate, There's a lot of
• 20:32
  questions with him. What do you think the type of
• 20:35
  talent he is? Is he a superstar?
• 20:37
  Is he a predominant number one guy?
• 20:39
  Who do you think would draft this kid?
• 20:41
  And do you think he's as explosive as some of the wide
• 20:44
  receivers we've seen come out of Ohio State?
• 20:47
  Yeah, I mean, he's very talented player.
• 20:48
  This is a guy I watched here. He was training at Exos in
• 20:51
  Phoenix and all the top, I mean of of all the guys that were
• 20:55
  training out here, it was a lot of the receivers that are going
• 20:59
  to go in the first round. We're all out here at Exos.
• 21:01
  So I saw them kind of going one V1.
• 21:03
  There was a group of eight to 10 of them that were all really,
• 21:06
  really active every day. And so I kind of got to see the
• 21:09
  dynamic between him, Jordan, Tyson, McKay, Lemon, they were
• 21:14
  all here, right? Casey Concepcion, they were all
• 21:16
  literally of the top guys, I think 10 of the 12 top
• 21:20
  receivers, They were all here in Phoenix.
• 21:22
  So I got to see who stuck out as the alpha amongst the group, and
• 21:25
  that was Cardinal Tate by far. He was the one who was talking
• 21:30
  the most. He was.
• 21:31
  And then to me, I like a receiver that runs his mouth.
• 21:34
  I want a receiver. That's because you got to be
• 21:37
  able to talk trash. You got to be able to stand
• 21:38
  unless you're Larry Fitzgerald, who to me is an exception to the
• 21:41
  rule. There is.
• 21:44
  I like what I've seen from him. I also like the Brian Hartline
• 21:47
  pipeline from Ohio State. Obviously they have continuously
• 21:50
  put in top level tie and talent that comes into the league.
• 21:55
  I like him a lot and I I I can only speak to and, and give your
• 21:59
  audience some of the moments that I got to see by myself that
• 22:03
  I think stick out to me and the things that the NFL cared about
• 22:06
  they add. The number one question I got is
• 22:08
  who was the alpha of the top receiver group and by far and
• 22:11
  away was Carnell. Tate wasn't close.
• 22:13
  Alright, I'll bring up to two players from positions that
• 22:15
  aren't like valued as much. We see Sunny Styles as one of
• 22:18
  the Merrill brought up earlier, Freak athlete, hybrid
• 22:20
  linebacker, safety, had a great combine and the other one is
• 22:22
  Kenyan Sadiq. First round grade, two of them
• 22:26
  in the first round, one in which your team in Colston, Loveland,
• 22:28
  the other one to Tyler Warren to the Indianapolis Colts.
• 22:30
  Where do you see those two draft stock wise?
• 22:33
  Yeah, sign me up for Kenyan Sadiq.
• 22:35
  And as as soon as the top ten. This guy is an athletic freak.
• 22:41
  That term gets gets thrown around a lot.
• 22:43
  You're talking when you watched him do his combine training, he
• 22:46
  was also out here in Phoenix. Everything he did looked easy.
• 22:50
  And when an athlete makes stuff like that look easy amongst a
• 22:52
  bunch of 1 percenters, it's insane to watch.
• 22:56
  And that's what we're talking about as far as his fluidity,
• 22:59
  how he moves, his athleticism, every for whether it's jumping,
• 23:03
  running, just across the board. This is a total package as far
• 23:08
  as the tight end goes. Obviously I'm I grew up in
• 23:10
  Chicago, I'm a Bears fan. I saw what the impact of Colson
• 23:13
  Loveland did. I saw what Tyler Warren did.
• 23:15
  You obviously have seen what Brock Bowers has done in his
• 23:18
  young career already for the Raiders, even with their
• 23:20
  quarterback play all over the place.
• 23:22
  So I think when you you look at this guy, I understand that Kyle
• 23:26
  Pitts is franchise tagged and potentially on the trading
• 23:29
  block. And there may be some hesitation
• 23:32
  on as far as the athleticism and some of the measurables that
• 23:36
  comp to each other. But I caution people not to
• 23:38
  project things onto other players.
• 23:40
  They are not the same. They didn't come from the same
• 23:42
  program. They have nothing in common
• 23:44
  other than they're both athletic freaks.
• 23:46
  It has nothing to do. One has nothing to do with the
• 23:48
  other. This is a great football player.
• 23:51
  I think he could be one of the best coming out of this class
• 23:54
  and any, any team would be lucky to have him.
• 23:56
  But I've I've started to hear Cincinnati just saying, you know
• 23:59
  what, we're going to suck on defense and just go with just
• 24:01
  try and score as many points as possible.
• 24:03
  If they add him to as the tight end, I mean, good Lord, they
• 24:06
  probably put up 40 points and lose 4540 every game.
• 24:09
  But you know that to each his own.
• 24:11
  To each his own. Yeah.
• 24:12
  So I want to talk about the the bang comment that you made
• 24:15
  earlier. I do think that he is a little
• 24:17
  bit undersized in regards to being an edge rushers with The
• 24:20
  Jets picking that number 2, I personally think they maybe
• 24:24
  should go more interior than anterior from an edge rush.
• 24:28
  I think getting rid of Quinton was one of the dumbest mistakes
• 24:31
  they made last year, but they made it and I think they have
• 24:33
  opportunity to pick it up now. A guy that I'm looking at now
• 24:36
  with Carl Banks, what do you think about them changing from
• 24:40
  my S rush to an interior D lineman that can actually be
• 24:42
  beneficial? I also get to the path I mean
• 24:45
  also get to the QB but not but I also can stop the run as well.
• 24:48
  So you talking at pick two, you who would you take there at pick
• 24:52
  two then if you're talking interior?
• 24:54
  I mean, the air just is all sexy, you know?
• 24:57
  I mean with the sex, but I also think that it depends on the
• 25:00
  system that makes the player. It's not going to be. 100%.
• 25:04
  Byproduct of that right for 3:00 PM to go into a 3-4 mess up Rd.
• 25:08
  shenanigans right. So for me, I think that that the
• 25:12
  detailed composition needs to be replaced.
• 25:14
  Like I said, I like Carl Banks. I like and it, but I also look
• 25:18
  at what's this guy named Peter Woods from Kempson.
• 25:23
  Yeah, I think he's good too. He's a stud, He's a stud.
• 25:26
  Super like strong. But at 16, At 16, not at 2.
• 25:32
  So you think 2:00 should be is rusher?
• 25:34
  Edge rusher or or the OR or or the linebackers, one of those
• 25:38
  something like to me, I don't think unless they go David
• 25:42
  Bailey. I I could see them going David
• 25:44
  Bailey. That's that's a that's a pic
• 25:45
  that's been mocked to them a lot.
• 25:48
  I just don't think you could take.
• 25:49
  I like Peter Woods a lot. I just don't see him going
• 25:52
  inside the top five, especially at two there.
• 25:54
  I think you got a more than likely you're looking at Arvel
• 25:57
  Reese. That's the that's.
• 25:59
  I like him as a linebacker, not an edge rusher.
• 26:01
  Though I agree, I agree, I agree, but I think the that that
• 26:05
  position has been devalued again and the running back position in
• 26:08
  the linebacker position have been devalued over the scouting
• 26:10
  community in the media and I don't understand it.
• 26:13
  The linebacker is one of the most important positions on the
• 26:16
  football field and running back is also one of the like.
• 26:19
  To think that there are positions you can just check out
• 26:22
  of is not is just nonsense. That's not how winning football
• 26:26
  works. You cannot just not run the
• 26:28
  football. You can't just not have good
• 26:30
  linebackers. It is literally not an example
• 26:33
  in the history of the of football where there's a Super
• 26:35
  Bowl champion that didn't do either of those things.
• 26:37
  Well, I think you look at Arvel Reese as, I mean, he's a total
• 26:41
  package at 2. It'd be hard to for me to pass
• 26:45
  up on him. I like David Bailey a lot.
• 26:48
  But if I was picking at 2 and I was The Jets, I'd be, I'd be
• 26:52
  taking Arvel Reese. That's that's what I would be
• 26:54
  taking. We are talking to CEO of the
• 26:57
  Draft Network, Paige Demacos. Now Paige, I, I want to get off
• 27:01
  the draft just for, just for a little bit.
• 27:04
  And Max Crosby is something that I every day I think about it,
• 27:10
  I'm like wondering why did Baltimore walk away from
• 27:14
  bringing in a impact player this good?
• 27:16
  Think about it right now, they're in a division where you
• 27:19
  have to play what? Or Miles Garrett, two of the
• 27:23
  best defensive lineman in a league.
• 27:24
  Max Crosby you can argue is right there, maybe 3-4.
• 27:28
  Michael Parsons is there. You can argue Michael Parsons
• 27:31
  also coming off a big injury and Max Crosby meniscus surgery.
• 27:35
  I mean, it's not an ACL, it's not an MCL.
• 27:39
  This is a meniscus surgery. And you're crying out.
• 27:43
  The Baltimore Ravens, who have been an organization that's been
• 27:46
  known for their defense and over the last couple of years,
• 27:49
  they've been an absolute mockery.
• 27:50
  They do have Hamilton. They have players that are
• 27:53
  impact players, but they don't have an elite pass rusher and
• 27:57
  Max Crosby is an elite pass rusher.
• 28:00
  You trade them for two first round draft picks and honestly,
• 28:05
  you don't know what those two first round draft picks are
• 28:07
  going to be. You know what match Crosby is.
• 28:09
  What the hell is that organization thinking?
• 28:13
  I I have no idea. And Tom Brady's probably smiling
• 28:16
  right now because he's laughing to the bank because guess what?
• 28:19
  I, yeah, we didn't get 2 first round draft picks, but we got
• 28:22
  Max Crosby. We could sit on him.
• 28:24
  We can move them after the draft.
• 28:26
  We can move them during the draft and still get equal talent
• 28:29
  from that. If, if, if need be, you can get
• 28:31
  a player and a draft pick and be happy with that.
• 28:34
  I don't think they're moving him now.
• 28:35
  I think Max Crosby will be a Raider this year.
• 28:38
  What were your thoughts when you heard this debacle of of what
• 28:43
  Baltimore did? So I was just at the NFL owners
• 28:45
  meetings here in Phoenix in this conversation was one that was
• 28:48
  had probably more than any any conversation because Baltimore
• 28:53
  before this happened was I would say one of the most respected
• 28:59
  and highly valued and looked at with they operate with integrity
• 29:04
  across the league. The impact of what happened is
• 29:07
  not just how the players are viewing this situation.
• 29:10
  It's also how every other team feels about them and making
• 29:14
  deals with them in the future, right?
• 29:15
  There are serious repercussions for going back on your word when
• 29:20
  you do what they did. And to me, this is everybody
• 29:24
  that I've talked to has come to the same conclusion, which is
• 29:27
  they had too much time to sit and think on this, right?
• 29:31
  They made this deal the Friday before free agency week happens
• 29:34
  and this is part of the reason why.
• 29:36
  The tampering shit for me is ridiculous right?
• 29:38
  I'm like OK we all know all these deals get talked about at
• 29:42
  the combine. They leave the combine.
• 29:44
  These deals are already 90% done.
• 29:47
  We need to just fix how this is done because they made this deal
• 29:50
  Friday. They sat on it the whole
• 29:52
  weekend. Usually a player within 24 hours
• 29:55
  would be flying to the facility right after the deal because of
• 29:58
  the timing of this. It happened on Friday.
• 30:00
  He didn't fly there until after the weekend, so he flies out
• 30:03
  there not until the beginning of that week.
• 30:06
  The timing happens. They are allowed the time to sit
• 30:09
  there and then see that Trey Hendrickson doesn't go in that
• 30:12
  first wave of free agency. They're able to sit there, see
• 30:16
  that that happens. Go huh, do we really want to
• 30:18
  give up to first round picks or do we want to try and just get
• 30:22
  Trey Hendrickson? We don't have to give up any
• 30:24
  picks. The difference between
• 30:25
  Hendrickson and Max Crosby is to them, I'm not saying for me for
• 30:29
  them is not as big of a gap. And so they don't want to give
• 30:33
  up the picks and they want to get Trey Hendrickson and
• 30:35
  potentially and potentially bring in Jadavian Clowney this
• 30:38
  year and have those two guys on either side and not have to give
• 30:40
  up their picks. That's what happened.
• 30:42
  They they cannot they cannot convince anybody otherwise
• 30:46
  because there's no logic other than that right?
• 30:50
  And you if Trey Hendrickson, I'd love to have the the exercise
• 30:54
  where we could see if Trey Hendrickson went very early that
• 30:58
  they they still do this deal, right or they or there's more
• 31:02
  money being discussed because Hendrickson was under the
• 31:04
  impression he was going to play with Max Crosby.
• 31:06
  That's what he was told. He's come out and said that he
• 31:09
  has he has he has said on like that is what he was under the
• 31:13
  communication. So something the math ain't math
• 31:16
  in right. Some ain't adding up here.
• 31:18
  And I I think to me this is just a simple they got cold feet.
• 31:23
  They had more time than normal because of the timing of free
• 31:26
  agency and the deal getting done on a Friday to sit on it.
• 31:30
  They chickened out. They didn't want this to be the
• 31:32
  first thing that they did post John Harbaugh because this was
• 31:36
  something that they they hadn't done right in that era and they
• 31:40
  chickened out. And to me, I look at this and I
• 31:42
  go the perfect player for the Baltimore Ravens was Max Crosby.
• 31:45
  From a his image to who he is as a football player to the impact
• 31:50
  that he has. So I like Trey Hendrickson a
• 31:53
  lot. He's not Max Crosby, he's not
• 31:55
  Max Rousby. Don't get it twisted.
• 31:58
  He's a very good football player.
• 31:59
  He's going to have a great amount of impact.
• 32:01
  But now you gave the Raiders back a top three pass rusher
• 32:06
  who's now motivated with another chip on his shoulder.
• 32:08
  This is a guy who already shows up at 4:30 AM every day to work
• 32:11
  out as if he needed another reason to prove you guys wrong.
• 32:15
  I just, this was disrespectful to the player, quite frankly,
• 32:19
  the way that they handled things, The general manager and
• 32:22
  the head coach not being there when he arrived at the facility,
• 32:25
  not being around or available for five hours.
• 32:28
  I mean, it's it was Bush league and there's no other way around
• 32:31
  it. It's how everybody in the league
• 32:32
  is looking at it. And if they struggle to get
• 32:35
  after the quarterback, oh, it's going to be loud in Baltimore.
• 32:39
  I like it. It's going to be loud in
• 32:41
  Baltimore. Loud in Baltimore.
• 32:43
  I like that southern accent right there, ladies and
• 32:46
  gentlemen, I But here's the thing.
• 32:48
  There is a S team that is doing things that are making you shake
• 32:52
  your head and you know, I'm talking about the Miami
• 32:54
  Dolphins. I have no idea what the Dolphins
• 32:58
  are doing right now except the fact is what?
• 33:00
  Let's suck for Manning because that could be the only thing or
• 33:04
  the only reason why what they're doing.
• 33:06
  They gave Waddle. That's what they did.
• 33:08
  They threw Waddle to the Broncos and said here go win a Super
• 33:12
  Bowl this year. That's what they did.
• 33:14
  That's what they did. I mean, think about it.
• 33:16
  They have the best offensive line.
• 33:18
  They have a competent good quarterback when healthy.
• 33:21
  They have a great running game. They got the best defense in the
• 33:24
  league. You can argue.
• 33:26
  I mean, they have the best type. They have the best corner in the
• 33:29
  league. You can argue.
• 33:30
  I mean, everything at their special teams is good.
• 33:32
  They have arguably the best offense of mind in the league.
• 33:35
  And now you add they they cordless Sutton, who's there on
• 33:41
  one side and now you have Waddle on the other side, speed demon
• 33:45
  who you can use in so many different packages that Peyton,
• 33:49
  Sean Payton is like the gifted mind freak.
• 33:52
  He's like Einstein with a, you know, a pad up his ass.
• 33:55
  OK, I have no idea. I did.
• 33:57
  It just doesn't make any sense. And they gave him for nothing.
• 34:00
  That's what they did. They said, here, take Waddle for
• 34:03
  us. And we're going to do this.
• 34:04
  We're going to we're going to pay all these contracts off and
• 34:06
  we're going to just be bad this year because we want to be the
• 34:09
  worst teaming NFL. What the hell are the Dolphins
• 34:12
  doing right now? This is what happens when you
• 34:15
  sign a quarterback after one year of good play and you owe
• 34:19
  $99 million of dead cap money. Yes, this is what happens.
• 34:24
  These are the these are the ramifications of paying to, it's
• 34:28
  on my law, $67 million this year to not play football for you,
• 34:32
  $34 million is next year to not play football for you.
• 34:35
  This is what happens. These are the decisions and the
• 34:37
  things you got to live with. When you make really bad
• 34:40
  decisions on the highest paid impact player on your team, it's
• 34:45
  that's it. They are in a tough spot because
• 34:48
  financially they made a horrible decision and now they got to
• 34:52
  live with it. So the reality is the team that
• 34:55
  was brought in, the head coach and the general manager come
• 34:57
  from Green Bay, a team that does everything the exact opposite of
• 35:00
  what Miami has done right. And so they're coming in and
• 35:04
  they are trying to establish a culture from the ground up.
• 35:08
  And it's not going to be easy and it's going to require time
• 35:12
  and patience from another owner who does not have time or
• 35:15
  patience, Steven Ross. And it's going to require him to
• 35:19
  actually allow them to clean this up because this is a
• 35:22
  disaster what they did. You don't you, you can't just
• 35:26
  pay $100 million out and think that this is going to, you're
• 35:29
  going to be able to put the same level of play as far as a roster
• 35:32
  goes against everybody else when you're it just, it's, that's not
• 35:36
  how this goes. So they had a plan.
• 35:39
  The plan changed. You were going to stick with
• 35:42
  McDaniel going into this year, which was weird.
• 35:45
  The first day comes, he doesn't get fired.
• 35:47
  Then they think they're going to get John Harbaugh, which is
• 35:50
  absolutely what happened. They fire Mike McDaniel, OK, And
• 35:54
  then they have to then scramble because John Harbaugh doesn't
• 35:58
  leave the building in New York and they don't even get an
• 36:00
  interview. So this is this is what happens
• 36:04
  when you don't have good process.
• 36:07
  They don't have good process. They do not have good process
• 36:10
  when it comes to how they do things, how they operate and
• 36:14
  there's not cohesiveness. What they're what Jeff Haffley
• 36:17
  and company are trying to do now is to make mess out of a
• 36:21
  disaster, right? They got to they got to clean
• 36:24
  this mess up. And it's not going to happen
• 36:26
  this year. It's got to happen over this
• 36:28
  year, next year. And even the you got to be able
• 36:31
  to flip this over time. And if the plan is to tank and
• 36:36
  guess what? If anybody is a team that we
• 36:38
  know will tank, it's this one because we know.
• 36:42
  And there you can think that Arch Manning's going to come
• 36:46
  save you it. I don't care what quarterback it
• 36:48
  is. Football is a team game.
• 36:51
  People need to get this out of their heads.
• 36:53
  It is. There is no such thing as a
• 36:55
  quarterback coming to save you. That's not how it goes.
• 36:58
  You need good players across the board at every position, and
• 37:02
  when your roster sucks, your quarterback's not going to be
• 37:05
  good. Quarterback, client, come save
• 37:06
  you. Patrick Mahomes couldn't do
• 37:07
  anything this year. Why?
• 37:09
  This team wasn't very good. Team wasn't very good.
• 37:12
  That's what happens. That's you can't.
• 37:14
  At some point people got to stop treating this like it's the NBA.
• 37:17
  It's not the NBA. One player does not impact the
• 37:19
  team like it's this is a team game and it doesn't matter what
• 37:23
  quarterback you have. If your process and your system
• 37:25
  and your coaching sucks, the quarterbacks not going to be
• 37:27
  very good. And at some point, The Jets and
• 37:30
  the Dolphins got to figure that out.
• 37:32
  Oh man, what a shot at The Jets. Be quiet, cute.
• 37:36
  Be quiet. There.
• 37:38
  Listen, I want The Jets to be good because having New York be
• 37:42
  good is a good thing for. Football.
• 37:44
  It is and and and, but when your owner is as disruptive as what
• 37:48
  he is, it's very hard. It's very hard.
• 37:51
  And the only reason that things changed in Chicago is because
• 37:55
  the old owner passed on, the sun took over, and things started
• 37:59
  magically turning around. It's not magic.
• 38:01
  It's called somebody else is at the helm.
• 38:03
  Like that's yeah. It's like somebody who's
• 38:05
  competent is running the organization who spent money for
• 38:08
  the first time ever in free agency.
• 38:10
  They spent $150 million last year in free agency.
• 38:13
  They hired a really damn good football coach.
• 38:15
  They trusted the coach to actually do his thing.
• 38:17
  And oh, shocker. In my whole life, the Bears have
• 38:20
  never been good, and now they're good.
• 38:21
  Why Ownership change. This is not.
• 38:24
  If you got a bad owner, it's tough, guys, I feel for you
• 38:26
  because unless we get Woody to go do one of those, you know,
• 38:30
  things for Trump again in England, it's tough to keep him
• 38:33
  from being let's. Send them.
• 38:34
  Let's send them to Iran right now, I think.
• 38:36
  That I'm all for it. Let's do it.
• 38:40
  I'll do it. I'll ship them over there.
• 38:42
  Woody's got all the money. I'll help.
• 38:44
  I'll go, I'll split the bill with you to ship his ass.
• 38:51
  I was going to finish up with the Bears.
• 38:52
  You kind of get into having their best season in quite a
• 38:55
  while. With Ben Johnson.
• 38:57
  Highly profile, as highly profile as a coaching candidate
• 39:00
  as you get. They make the playoffs.
• 39:01
  Obviously that big win against the Packers, kind of really
• 39:04
  getting them to win the division.
• 39:05
  They beat them in the playoffs after that before losing a tight
• 39:07
  one of the Rams. They trade DJ more in the
• 39:09
  offseason, but again, they have other good receivers, good skill
• 39:11
  players there. I was thinking they were going
• 39:13
  to go after an edge rusher. What are your thoughts on the
• 39:15
  whole Bear season to the whole and the offseason strategy for
• 39:17
  them? It feels weird to watch
• 39:21
  highlights and see the NFL posting positive videos about
• 39:25
  your team. Literally right.
• 39:27
  Sort of like when when you've grown up and literally covered
• 39:30
  and watched this team my whole life.
• 39:31
  My dad was the season ticket holder and grew up going to the
• 39:33
  games and now 50 like of the top 10 plays of the year for the
• 39:38
  NFL, five of them were Bears offensive plays.
• 39:41
  Are you joking? Like I'm like what is happening
• 39:43
  right? It's like you almost have to
• 39:45
  pinch yourself to go. Did this really happen?
• 39:47
  Did they really actually Green Bay twice in one month like that
• 39:50
  can't that that can't actually be possible, right?
• 39:53
  And it did happen. And like we talked about a
• 39:55
  little a little bit with the ownership change.
• 39:57
  The reality is Ben Johnson is a culture changer and he sat he
• 40:01
  had opportunities to leave the year before.
• 40:03
  He didn't leave right. They kept him in Detroit an
• 40:05
  extra year even when he had opportunities to go, he sat
• 40:09
  back. He created a plan and he didn't
• 40:11
  go interview for every job. He evaluated which jobs he was
• 40:15
  interested in taking, where he could come in and actually.
• 40:18
  They do the things he deemed necessary to change and have
• 40:21
  success in the league. And one of the things about Ben
• 40:25
  that I probably respect more than anything is that he's
• 40:28
  earned everything he has. He's taking shots at everybody
• 40:31
  else. Like, yeah, my last name didn't
• 40:33
  get me here because he's not a Lefleur.
• 40:35
  He's not a Shanahan, He's not a McVeigh.
• 40:38
  He didn't grow up in this league.
• 40:39
  His grandpa didn't coach. His dad didn't coach in the NFL.
• 40:42
  Like he earned his way into this position.
• 40:45
  He's he was around the right coaches in his time in the
• 40:49
  league and everybody that you talk to, whether it's the
• 40:53
  janitor staff or the players on the team, says that that dude is
• 40:58
  the one. And that to me tells you a lot.
• 41:01
  He's brought back the rivalry. People that were bitching about
• 41:04
  us talking shit to Green Bay. You don't belong in football.
• 41:08
  This is what football is. Football is great when rivalries
• 41:12
  are great. I don't want Green Bay to get
• 41:14
  along with Chicago. I love that they hate each
• 41:17
  other. It's amazing for the sport.
• 41:19
  Who wants your cat? What if I saw and I did?
• 41:23
  Matt Eberflu sat courtside with Matt Lafleur to Bucks game and
• 41:26
  it made my stomach turn. I went, what in the hell is my
• 41:30
  head coach doing? Fraternizing with the green,
• 41:33
  with the enemy? That's how it felt.
• 41:35
  Oh, yeah, Ben Johnson said. No, I don't.
• 41:37
  I don't want to make friends in the NFL.
• 41:38
  And I feel that energy. That's Chicago.
• 41:40
  We friends with you. You go stay up in Green Bay.
• 41:43
  We don't want. No, no, no, we're good.
• 41:45
  We'll stay here in Chicago. We don't want to be friends with
• 41:47
  y'all. And that's to me, that's good
• 41:49
  for sports, man. Like sports is about great
• 41:51
  rivalries and society's become soft and football has has
• 41:55
  magically stayed kind of separate of that.
• 41:58
  And I hope that football just continues to be football because
• 42:01
  it's the best when the rivalries are the best.
• 42:03
  I love McVeigh and Shanahan literally talking shit to each
• 42:06
  other at NFL owners meetings. That's great.
• 42:08
  They don't like each other. I don't want them to like each
• 42:10
  other. They shouldn't like each other.
• 42:12
  You're competitors. You can respect each other
• 42:14
  without liking each other. And to me, this is the I could
• 42:19
  watch this on a loop forever. This is like bring me more joy
• 42:23
  than anything that's ever happened, right?
• 42:25
  Because I just like, yeah. See you later, Lafleur.
• 42:27
  Yeah, we're good. Bye.
• 42:28
  Bye, Green Bay. So the, whether it's the
• 42:30
  speeches or just his demeanor and how he handles things this
• 42:34
  bear season, I could talk forever about because it was
• 42:37
  one, one for the ages. She's a wolf.
• 42:39
  She's a wolf, ladies. And gentlemen, an absolute wolf
• 42:44
  God Speedy. Good speedy.
• 42:45
  Let's hear you. Sounds like a little panda bear.
• 42:50
  All right. Cute, Yeah.
• 42:52
  So I'm going to circle. Back to the draft in closing and
• 42:55
  whatnot, tell us a memorable moment that you've had.
• 42:58
  I've seen that you share some moments with prospects and
• 43:01
  whatnot. What is the most memorable
• 43:03
  moment you've had in the draft? This is a easy one for me.
• 43:07
  A couple draft cycles ago, Kansas City, I'm backstage with
• 43:11
  Panini, the trading card company, doing interviews with
• 43:13
  the players, and Jaylen Carter gets drafted and comes backstage
• 43:19
  and Jaylen Carter is a monster atrocity of a human being.
• 43:23
  OK, just, I mean just. This.
• 43:25
  Absolute specimen. And he comes walking off stage
• 43:30
  with tears in his eyes and just falls on like literally hug,
• 43:35
  hug, bear hugs me. And I'm like, I'm going to fall,
• 43:38
  I'm going to fall, I'm going to fall.
• 43:39
  I'm going to this is it. This is how my life ends.
• 43:42
  Like, Oh my God. But this like the stress and the
• 43:46
  pressure of everything that happens during the draft
• 43:50
  process. It was that release of emotion
• 43:53
  of like it was worth. You know, it's over, right?
• 43:56
  Like I had all the and it's, it happens every year.
• 43:59
  Every year I talk to talk to kids.
• 44:01
  That's why I love the draft. It's literally watching players
• 44:04
  lifelong goal dream to change their family, their lives happen
• 44:10
  and there's so much work that goes into making that happen.
• 44:14
  These players are scrutinized at A at a level that makes me so
• 44:19
  uncomfortable. I mean everything they do a
• 44:22
  non-stop with social media. And I look at these coaches as
• 44:25
  if these guys were choir boys and perfect when they were back
• 44:28
  then, right? And I'm like, y'all lucky I
• 44:30
  didn't have cell phones. Y'all would have been cancelled
• 44:32
  20 years ago. OK, and and that's and that's
• 44:34
  the thing. So to me, there's a great,
• 44:36
  there's a great moment every year, but I will never forget
• 44:39
  that because Jalen Carter is such a large and large angry
• 44:43
  human being on the football field.
• 44:45
  What a sweet kid. And what a great moment he and I
• 44:48
  shared. And we had a great interview
• 44:49
  after that. So I'll never forget it.
• 44:51
  Never forget it. Well, I got to say something,
• 44:53
  Paige. We, I've interviewed a lot of
• 44:56
  people over the years. You, as far as your personality,
• 45:00
  you know, football and you have such a like a, you know, you,
• 45:04
  you can, you catch it and every, every, every personality trait
• 45:08
  that you have speaking on a mic. There are a lot of people that
• 45:12
  are not good at this. They're not, I've interviewed a
• 45:13
  lot of analysts that say they're good, They have a huge following
• 45:17
  and they're just really, really bad.
• 45:19
  Really, really, really bad. You are just you bright up the
• 45:24
  conversation. You know what you're talking
• 45:26
  about. And you're funny too.
• 45:28
  And you don't beat around the Bush.
• 45:30
  You just smack everybody out of the way.
• 45:32
  So I think you're great. Thank you.
• 45:35
  Thank you. I'm.
• 45:36
  I'm Greek. And from Chicago, there's no
• 45:38
  like, if you know, if you know from Chicago, we don't be with
• 45:41
  me. That's that's how it goes.
• 45:43
  That's how it. Goes man, we don't.
• 45:45
  If you want to get a word in at the table at my house, you
• 45:47
  better be able to speak up. Speak your mind.
• 45:49
  That's it, That's it. Chicago.
• 45:52
  Chicago. But you're fantastic I.
• 45:56
  I love what you do. I was checking out your stuff
• 45:58
  today and Nif and I got to give a shout out to the old nif
• 46:01
  because he got you on the show. The old man over there, The the
• 46:06
  the. Nifmeister I mean.
• 46:08
  We call him the five foot 6 Indian killer right over there.
• 46:12
  He's a hustler, man. He's.
• 46:13
  A hustler. He's a hustler.
• 46:15
  Breaking news, I'm putting you on a.
• 46:16
  Leash now Breaking news, hot ladies breaking news.
• 46:20
  They call me the ladies man and Mr. Still you agree?
• 46:22
  Be careful. Be careful.
• 46:25
  He is the ladies man and you have to be careful.
• 46:28
  He also does this thing. Here it is, breaking news.
• 46:31
  I need pretty. Also, he needs everybody also,
• 46:34
  but he is. Fantastic, He does such a great
• 46:36
  job on the back ending. You are fantastic.
• 46:38
  Love to get you on the show again.
• 46:40
  Are you going to the draft this year?
• 46:41
  I will be. I will be in Pittsburgh.
• 46:43
  Love being on with you guys, super entertained, love New York
• 46:47
  and Chicago. We get along man, cuz we're all,
• 46:49
  we're all about a no BS man. We just want, we want it
• 46:52
  straight, straight right to the point.
• 46:54
  And I feel for y'all as jazz fans cuz like that was my life
• 46:57
  up until last year, man. Like literally I wasn't, I
• 47:00
  wasn't sitting any prettier than you were up until up until
• 47:03
  things changed. So listen, I had, I had, I've
• 47:06
  had conversations with Woody all continue to plea on your behalf
• 47:09
  and he gets all out of the way. OK, I'll try.
• 47:11
  I'll keep it trying. We need it.
• 47:13
  We. There he is.
• 47:15
  He's the ladies. Man ohh my I'm putting you on a
• 47:18
  leash now. Breaking news a lot of hot
• 47:20
  ladies breaking news. I gotta go back off now.
• 47:24
  Ohh, incredible. It's.
• 47:25
  Incredible. But we love you.
• 47:28
  And thank you. We're going to be guys.
• 47:30
  We're going to be there too. We're working on doing a live
• 47:33
  show. A live show?
• 47:34
  Hit me up, hit me up. I'd love to come see.
• 47:37
  Whatever works out, I'll be there.
• 47:38
  I'll be running around. I got my own stuff that I'm
• 47:40
  doing, but I'd love to connect when you guys are there.
• 47:42
  Absolutely, Paige, I love you. Thank.
• 47:44
  You good work. Bye.
• 47:45
  Guys, Paige Demacos. Ladies and gentlemen, she's
• 47:48
  fantastic, beautiful. She really is a beautiful woman
• 47:53
  and she knows her football. You can't beat around the Bush,
• 47:55
  and you beat around the Bush all the time.
• 47:57
  You need to shave that Bush. Anyways.
• 47:59
  Ladies and gentlemen, we call this beef.
• 48:06
  I'm a nut, I'm a nut. Do you know what beef?
• 48:10
  Is do you know what beef is? I fight you both together if you
• 48:17
  want. I fight you What?
• 48:17
  1 poor time behind my back. I fight you.
• 48:19
  Stand on my foot. I fight you.
• 48:21
  What? My eyes close.
• 48:23
  What? Are you scared?
• 48:24
  Watch your mouth. I see you.
• 48:27
  Guaranteed to be. And I'll see you one more time.
• 48:32
  All right, ladies and gentlemen. Gino Ariama and Dawn Staley have
• 48:38
  been going back and forth. They were in the final four.
• 48:42
  We all know what happened. Let's hit it.
• 48:45
  All right, so I have 3 videos for TO.
• 48:46
  Start for this one, we'll start with the initial altercation,
• 48:49
  then Gino's response, and then Dawn's.
• 48:51
  Here we go. The players now Dawn and Gino
• 48:55
  getting into it a little bit on the sideline as Gino has to be
• 48:59
  held back final on Sunday afternoon.
• 49:14
  All right. And now Gina responds with this.
• 49:17
  Coaching and I've been, I don't know. 3025 Final Fours and the
• 49:21
  protocol is before the game you meet that half court.
• 49:24
  Anybody ever see that before 2 coaches meet at half court and
• 49:27
  they shake hands, Correct. There we see it.
• 49:31
  They announce it on the on the loudspeaker and I waited there
• 49:35
  for like 3 minutes. So it is what it is.
• 49:41
  You know, he he's the one that. Is initiated the the
• 49:45
  conversation. I, I, I don't want you know what
• 49:48
  happened there to dampen what we were able to accomplish today.
• 49:56
  All right, So I like Gino. He's an older.
• 50:00
  He's like a college professor. He knows college basketball,
• 50:04
  especially woman's basketball, better than anybody.
• 50:07
  I mean, how many national championships, How many Final
• 50:09
  Fours, how many championships has this man gone to?
• 50:13
  Dawn Staley was going to be interviewed by the New York
• 50:16
  Knicks to take the New York Knicks job when it was available
• 50:19
  this offseason. She was actually being thought
• 50:23
  of as a person the Knicks were going to hire.
• 50:27
  First woman head coach in NBA history.
• 50:30
  That's the truth. Dawn Staley was a Leon.
• 50:33
  Leon Rose is very close with Dawn Staley.
• 50:35
  I've heard a lot of stories about her.
• 50:37
  She's got a very strong personality.
• 50:38
  She doesn't give a crap if you're a man or a woman.
• 50:41
  She'll smack you silly. She'll beat you to a living
• 50:43
  pulp. That's the type of woman she is.
• 50:47
  I respect that, I really do. I thought, why would Gino be
• 50:51
  making this up? He's not wrong.
• 50:53
  Before the game, it doesn't matter if you hate somebody or
• 50:56
  not. In the NBA and the NCAA, where
• 50:58
  do these guys meet? They meet in the middle of the
• 51:00
  court, they talk, they interact, they say hey, how you doing,
• 51:05
  blah, blah, blah, blah. What a great run you're having.
• 51:07
  Dah dah, dah dah dah, Gino. Ariemma come out there and
• 51:11
  saying after the game, that's what you do.
• 51:13
  And she didn't do that. And at the end of the game, he
• 51:17
  probably, he was very upset. UConn was the favorite.
• 51:20
  They were the best team in the nation.
• 51:22
  They haven't lost the game. And they get shocked by South
• 51:24
  Carolina. I mean, absolutely shocked,
• 51:27
  Okay. And he's pissed off.
• 51:29
  So he goes up to her and he probably approached her and
• 51:33
  said, whoa, normal people would go up at the, you know, before
• 51:37
  the game and interact with it. What what the hell are you
• 51:39
  doing? What What what kind of are you
• 51:40
  better than me? Do you think you're better than
• 51:42
  me? And and Dawn Staley says we won.
• 51:45
  I don't give a crap. We're the ones moving on.
• 51:47
  You're not. Oh, well, sayonara, go play
• 51:49
  golf. I don't give a crap.
• 51:51
  And and if I was Gino, I would be pissed too.
• 51:54
  Now, Gino did come out and apologize to the NCAA and Dawn
• 51:59
  Staley for the way he acted. It wasn't professional the way
• 52:02
  he reacted. She's a woman, he's a man.
• 52:05
  But I've never seen Gino get that angry.
• 52:08
  We've seen him lose big games. We've seen him get upset about
• 52:12
  certain athletes, players or even coaches in the past.
• 52:16
  He's never gone out there after the game and spoke to the media
• 52:20
  and just throw the the coach under the bus like Dawn Staley.
• 52:23
  Dawn Staley, she can, she looks very nasty.
• 52:26
  I, I personally didn't, but did anybody watch the video after
• 52:30
  after that fact? All that mishap happened on the
• 52:32
  back on the court. She went into the backroom.
• 52:34
  She says they're done, they're done.
• 52:36
  She's dancing over there. She's doing her little jumping
• 52:40
  around, doing all that stupid crap.
• 52:42
  We saw it. We we spoke about Ben Johnson.
• 52:44
  We saw what they did against the Green Bay Packers after the fact
• 52:48
  FF the the Green Bay Packers. But that's that's to me is
• 52:53
  that's the NFL. That's about just what do you
• 52:56
  call that? Just competitive feature
• 52:58
  rivalry? No, but South.
• 53:00
  Carolina and Yukon are not rivalries.
• 53:02
  They really are in the in the recent history feature.
• 53:05
  But they're not. They're not.
• 53:06
  Yukon is. One of the most successful
• 53:09
  basketball programs overall, but in the near.
• 53:11
  In the nearest. Feature they have.
• 53:13
  Do you really think that, Gino? Ariama gives a crap what Dawn
• 53:16
  Staley thinks about he do, that's the reason why he said.
• 53:19
  No, he didn't. He was upset.
• 53:22
  That Dawn Staley didn't meet in the court, in front of the
• 53:25
  court. It doesn't matter if you don't
• 53:26
  like somebody. You do.
• 53:27
  You're a professional. You're a professional coach.
• 53:30
  You're making millions of dollars.
• 53:32
  You're coaching a college women's basketball team.
• 53:35
  You made it to the Final Four. Gino Ariana is one of the more
• 53:38
  respected head coaches in college basketball history.
• 53:42
  The first thing you're doing is at least going to the middle of
• 53:45
  the court and having a conversation.
• 53:46
  Congratulations on such a great not going out after the game and
• 53:51
  like pretty much mocking him after he came out and he was
• 53:55
  upset. Just be professional about it.
• 53:57
  Be professional, professional about it.
• 53:59
  What if she forgot? What if she didn't make so I.
• 54:03
  Mean this guy. This giant, he knows somebody
• 54:07
  didn't meet him at half court and say hey, you did a good job
• 54:10
  this season. Wow, this guy is so pissed off.
• 54:13
  Stand on it. Why I apologize?
• 54:15
  First of all, he's still pissed off because he never said Don
• 54:18
  name it, apologize. I apologize to the staff.
• 54:20
  So he was still carried out by that.
• 54:22
  So he was a coward. Not apologize.
• 54:25
  I don't. I do not.
• 54:26
  Believe he coward. Out.
• 54:28
  How do you call that being a coward?
• 54:30
  Apologize. Did George Staley?
• 54:33
  First of all, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on.
• 54:35
  Hold on, did Dawn Staley at all apologize for what she did?
• 54:40
  What did she do? She did somebody hit you and
• 54:43
  then you like, oh. Now we need you need to
• 54:45
  apologize because you got absolutely you're professional.
• 54:48
  What you're doing, how life works.
• 54:50
  You know, put somebody did the person to get put say, oh, yeah,
• 54:53
  my fault for fighting back and protecting myself.
• 54:56
  Let me apologize. Really.
• 54:57
  That's not how this works. Really.
• 54:58
  So you're telling me that what she did?
• 55:00
  It was OK, it was fine for her to be unprofessional and then
• 55:04
  mocking UConn after the fact that they beat him, right?
• 55:07
  Mocking. That's what you're supposed to
• 55:09
  do out. There.
• 55:09
  No, you're not. You're supposed to be a
• 55:11
  professional. Why wouldn't you?
• 55:12
  Gino Ariama didn't go out there and.
• 55:14
  Gino Ariama, Gino Ariama I've never seen go out there and and
• 55:19
  just attack organization programs that he's never liked.
• 55:23
  I've never seen him do that. Oh, we won.
• 55:25
  Oh, blah, blah, blah. He's such a sore loser.
• 55:28
  Dawn Staley is she's a ruthless, you know what?
• 55:32
  She's ruthless. And, and here's another thing,
• 55:35
  and I'll say this, I don't know if we call this beef because I,
• 55:38
  I don't think Gino Ariema really hates Dawn.
• 55:41
  I think Dawn Staley hates everybody.
• 55:43
  How in the she? How are you?
• 55:46
  Perceiving that he don't hate dogs and he did what he did
• 55:49
  because the man has never done it and he didn't.
• 55:51
  Even connect me to apology. When did you see Gino ever do
• 55:54
  something? Like this?
• 55:56
  Have you ever seen No day before yesterday?
• 55:58
  I'm asking you in his. Whole career and.
• 56:00
  He's been around for a very long time.
• 56:01
  Have you ever? And Gino has and we've heard
• 56:03
  stories that Gino doesn't like this coach doesn't like.
• 56:06
  Have you ever seen Gino go out there and, and, and take shots
• 56:09
  in the media at somebody you know?
• 56:12
  But I've seen his body language change when.
• 56:13
  He plays USC fish. We're not talking about the
• 56:16
  other team. On the other side, I'm talking
• 56:17
  about when you're playing another coach.
• 56:20
  We're not talking about what Danny Hurley and Gino Ariana,
• 56:24
  we're not talking about it. We're talking about when we're
• 56:26
  talking about a coach to another coach playing on the same coach,
• 56:30
  coach court, playing against one another, We're not talking about
• 56:33
  That's the problem with you, Fish.
• 56:35
  You bring up things that have nothing to do with particular
• 56:39
  coaching when you're on the best.
• 56:41
  Danny Hurley No, it doesn't, Danny.
• 56:44
  What it is, Danny? Earle, just like Don Staley, she
• 56:48
  rants and raves and officials just like him.
• 56:50
  Gino hates that she does it and gets away with it and that's why
• 56:54
  they have a culture clash. She's been yelling at her for
• 56:56
  four years, since 2023, because he doesn't like how she carries
• 57:02
  herself as a coach. And would you level and would
• 57:04
  you? Yes.
• 57:06
  What's? Wrong with it.
• 57:08
  I think it's just a culture clash to be honest.
• 57:09
  With you, like he's the old guard, obviously he's the legend
• 57:13
  and she's obviously a legend in her own right, but she's cutting
• 57:17
  your school style. But I and doesn't like how she
• 57:20
  messed it up too. Like she's doing like 90s Nicks,
• 57:23
  like physical basketball, you know?
• 57:25
  And he doesn't like that because he doesn't want his star players
• 57:28
  to get hurt. It's like 2 very opposite guys.
• 57:31
  I love that we have that in women's college basketball.
• 57:35
  We don't have Caitlin Clark there right now.
• 57:36
  We don't have Page Becker's there right now.
• 57:38
  We have this hatred which is kind of like raise the
• 57:41
  tournament a level even though neither one of them won.
• 57:44
  Yes, and that was the other big thing that came out with.
• 57:46
  John won. She beat.
• 57:47
  She beat Gina well. She she won, Yeah, she won in
• 57:49
  that game. And she's won a couple of
• 57:51
  national championships as well. And Q, you're right, in this
• 57:53
  modern era, like I would say A7 year peak, she won two national
• 57:57
  championships. 3/3 here we. Go and and.
• 58:00
  Gino and how many did? Ariana win.
• 58:02
  No, he's more accomplished. I'm saying right now, how many?
• 58:04
  Did he win? How many times has he dominated?
• 58:07
  How many great players has his man?
• 58:09
  How many how many great coach? How many great players has he
• 58:12
  coached? How many great players have gone
• 58:14
  to the WNBA? Hold on.
• 58:15
  Q How many play. When you look at what Gino
• 58:17
  Ariana has done, he's transitioned.
• 58:19
  He's made college women's college basketball what it is
• 58:22
  today. If it wasn't for Gino, there
• 58:25
  wouldn't be a dawn Staley, there wouldn't be an accomplishment.
• 58:28
  Yes it yes I can You can't say that college basketball is not
• 58:32
  the college basketball without changed the.
• 58:34
  Game. Was he transcending 100% and
• 58:37
  I'll be all oh really, really this I do.
• 58:40
  Want to mention too what you were.
• 58:41
  Saying with the the ref discrepancies in the past too.
• 58:43
  There's another thing that he Gino was saying as well about a
• 58:46
  double standard of refereeing. Got on the refs pretty heavily
• 58:50
  and it looked like you. Came over and kind of yell asked
• 58:53
  if she's allowed to talk to them like that.
• 58:55
  I'm wondering if that fed into your frustration at the end of
• 58:58
  the game at all. I just want to make sure there's
• 59:02
  not a double. Standard.
• 59:06
  I'm of the opinion that if I ever talk to an.
• 59:07
  Official like that I would get tossed.
• 59:10
  He's not wrong. So he's not wrong, I just want
• 59:14
  to make sure there's not a double standard.
• 59:15
  He's like, he's not wrong. People are allowed to talk.
• 59:17
  To officials like that. Really.
• 59:19
  And other people are not. Whenever you ever heard Gino.
• 59:22
  Ariama go out and go after a college references their mind
• 59:26
  every now and. Then you'll never see this man
• 59:29
  do. That he never does that, it's a
• 59:32
  rarity. Do you see Gino Ariama go after?
• 59:35
  Me rarely didn't do it, he doesn't.
• 59:37
  He doesn't really do it every. Time you come to him, he
• 59:40
  wouldn't say he. Does it?
• 59:41
  He never does it, Yes or no? He Has he done it before?
• 59:46
  Probably. Once or twice, But he doesn't do
• 59:48
  it like Dawn Staley does. Dawn Staley does all the time.
• 59:52
  That's her style, yelling. Yelling just like.
• 59:55
  Draymond Green in the NBA. Understand that he's going to
• 59:58
  highlight the reference. They understand that it's their
• 1:00:01
  style. Now, can anybody else in the
• 1:00:03
  league do the same thing that Draymond getting away with?
• 1:00:05
  No, but they understand. They adapt and adjust to players
• 1:00:09
  and coaches. That's what happens in the
• 1:00:11
  league. That's what happens in in
• 1:00:12
  basketball. That's happened in sports.
• 1:00:14
  Certain people get away with certain stuff based off the
• 1:00:17
  pedigree and and who they are. You have to.
• 1:00:20
  You have to. I admit that Gino has not been
• 1:00:22
  this Angel that you're trying to paint him up.
• 1:00:23
  Nobody said he's an Angel, but every time we.
• 1:00:26
  Tell you something he do Hold on, I let.
• 1:00:27
  You speak. Now it's my turn to speak.
• 1:00:29
  Hold on, Dawn Staley does it more than every single, every
• 1:00:33
  single game. Every single.
• 1:00:34
  Even if it's a, a regular season game, you see Dawn Staley
• 1:00:37
  running on the court yelling at the referees.
• 1:00:39
  She does it all the time. Gino does not do it every single
• 1:00:42
  time. And then you bring up, you bring
• 1:00:44
  in bring up Draymond Green or any of these guys, Brooks, they
• 1:00:47
  all do it and that's great. Their NBA players won #2 they
• 1:00:51
  don't get away with it. Draymond Greek gets more
• 1:00:53
  flagrance and more technical fouls than any player in NBA
• 1:00:56
  history. To say that he could.
• 1:00:57
  They get away with it is ridiculous.
• 1:00:59
  They also make millions and millions of dollars.
• 1:01:01
  When college players don't make that kind of money, they're
• 1:01:03
  getting NIL deals. Yeah, but they're not making
• 1:01:05
  anywhere close to that kind of money.
• 1:01:07
  So these guys. And by the way, the NBA is run
• 1:01:10
  by the players. College basketball is not run by
• 1:01:13
  the player. Who is it?
• 1:01:14
  It's run by the. Program and it's over with.
• 1:01:17
  NIL's transfer. Report to let you know that it's
• 1:01:19
  ran by the player. That does not mean that what?
• 1:01:22
  About it does not mean well. Also, that might not exist.
• 1:01:26
  Anymore because the president signed the executive order
• 1:01:29
  saying you can only transfer one time, I don't think.
• 1:01:32
  That has nothing to do with it but I.
• 1:01:33
  Think this whole transfer portal thing is one of those short
• 1:01:37
  experiments in history that we're going to talk about.
• 1:01:40
  Like, Can you believe when this was happening?
• 1:01:42
  No, I think it's the new day. It's the new.
• 1:01:44
  Age. I think everybody hates it
• 1:01:46
  because it goes against. What do you really think though?
• 1:01:48
  Do you really? Think the powers that be are
• 1:01:51
  going to allow this to continue on?
• 1:01:53
  They still win. They still win on the.
• 1:01:55
  Back end, there's no losing for them when you sign your NIDL
• 1:01:59
  contract. It's a part of the school.
• 1:02:01
  Get a cut too. Everybody's still getting a cut.
• 1:02:03
  That the only reason it's in play because the NCAA didn't
• 1:02:06
  want to pay their bills. They will pay that penalty.
• 1:02:08
  I hear you. I just feel like the NC double.
• 1:02:10
  A doesn't like a 5050 cut, they like a 9010 cut.
• 1:02:13
  And they wanted. They're gonna.
• 1:02:16
  Continue to sit out and and do all this.
• 1:02:17
  They they get more money now. I hope you're right.
• 1:02:20
  I don't like it. And I agree.
• 1:02:22
  With Gino I I I don't like more government like you love all.
• 1:02:26
  That no, I do not. He he, no, he said that.
• 1:02:29
  That's a whole. Different discussion for a
• 1:02:31
  different show, but my man like here likes socialist economics
• 1:02:35
  and no he does he lows salary caps.
• 1:02:38
  I'm just saying. I'm just saying I.
• 1:02:41
  Do I? I think that.
• 1:02:43
  Professional sports shouldn't be.
• 1:02:44
  These guys should not be overpaid more than they should
• 1:02:47
  be paid. I, I believe that the MLB needs
• 1:02:50
  to have a salary cap. It's ruining baseball.
• 1:02:53
  As we see what the deferred money that the Dodgers are
• 1:02:55
  doing, they're ruining the game of baseball.
• 1:02:57
  It is hurting the game of baseball.
• 1:02:59
  We had Jabba Chamberlain. I would have never thought Jabba
• 1:03:02
  Chamberlain shut the music off. I, I would have never thought
• 1:03:06
  that Jabba Chamberlain would actually come back and agree
• 1:03:10
  with me on this that baseball needs to do something about the
• 1:03:13
  cap and everything after what's going on with the Dodgers,
• 1:03:16
  They're ruining the game. So yeah, with, with the new CBA
• 1:03:19
  and the new contracts and, and, and the players union, I, I
• 1:03:23
  think that the ownership and the Commission needs to step in and
• 1:03:26
  argue that point at the end of the baseball season this year.
• 1:03:30
  Hey, when did Java say that while he.
• 1:03:31
  Was in the league or post post retirement.
• 1:03:34
  Well, he he's a part of the. Union so he's but when did he
• 1:03:38
  say it yes, that's. Not it always.
• 1:03:40
  He's still the old guys. College players.
• 1:03:43
  Were getting paid now yeah, back in my day I won't get this type
• 1:03:46
  of money and I had to do this and I didn't do that and they
• 1:03:48
  solved and they ain't responsible at all they said no,
• 1:03:51
  you're just jealous that's OK just say I don't like the fact
• 1:03:54
  that they're making more money I don't think it was jealous
• 1:03:56
  because. Jabba never, never say that.
• 1:03:59
  Why? He's an active player.
• 1:04:00
  Jabba never agreed to it. Until the fact that this was
• 1:04:03
  going on and it was getting worse.
• 1:04:05
  He always stuck up. I've been, I was working with
• 1:04:08
  Jabba for a year and a half and he was arguing all the time
• 1:04:11
  about it. And then all of a sudden, out of
• 1:04:13
  the blue, he agreed with me. Come on.
• 1:04:15
  He agreed with me because he saw what was going on.
• 1:04:18
  And, and obviously the emotional thing that's going on in
• 1:04:22
  baseball is, hey, the Dodgers can buy their way out.
• 1:04:24
  They can do whatever they want. They can get money and pay these
• 1:04:27
  guys 20 years from now, as long as they're winning, it doesn't
• 1:04:30
  matter. So it's unfortunate and I think
• 1:04:33
  baseball's going to step in. It's going to it's going to
• 1:04:35
  change. Let me know what Jabba?
• 1:04:37
  Negotiated down on this contract.
• 1:04:39
  This has nothing to do without having to negotiate.
• 1:04:41
  No, you know what? You.
• 1:04:42
  Need more money so I'm going to give you 10% of what I'm making.
• 1:04:46
  I I could see everyone being haters like.
• 1:04:48
  Think about Reggie Bush for a second.
• 1:04:50
  The guy had to give back his Heisman Trophy.
• 1:04:52
  Why? Because he was driving around a
• 1:04:54
  Chevy Impala that he didn't pay for.
• 1:04:57
  It was a Chevy, a nice Chevy Impala, but it was a Chevy
• 1:05:00
  Impala. I mean, I'm sure you got some
• 1:05:02
  other stuff too. What are we talking about here?
• 1:05:05
  Like that's how it was back in the day.
• 1:05:07
  I vote first of all I if, if. Anybody listen to this show 10
• 1:05:10
  years ago? I always stuck up that NIL money
• 1:05:14
  should be going to the players. I was one of the first speedy.
• 1:05:17
  Am I not right? I've been saying what's the
• 1:05:19
  argument there? My argument is my argument to
• 1:05:23
  give it back my my argument isn't fighting NIL deals.
• 1:05:27
  My money is my, my, my argument is my money is my argument is.
• 1:05:31
  And that's because everybody's keeps cutting in and talking
• 1:05:34
  over me. I can't even think my, my
• 1:05:37
  argument here is it's not the NIL deals.
• 1:05:41
  And I don't even care that these players are making the kind of
• 1:05:43
  money, even though it's going to stop, there's going to have to
• 1:05:45
  be a cut off point because it's not working for college
• 1:05:49
  football, baseball, hockey, all of it.
• 1:05:51
  It's not going to work. What I my argument here is, is
• 1:05:55
  that when you look at from the Dawn, from the Dawn Staley thing
• 1:05:59
  and the Geno Ariama thing, when you look at 2 coaches very well
• 1:06:03
  respected and one coach, one coach comes out there and says,
• 1:06:06
  hey, respect or no respect, you go out there and you respect
• 1:06:10
  that other coach. You go out to the middle of the
• 1:06:12
  court and you respect one another.
• 1:06:14
  That's the way you go. Now what he thinks of her
• 1:06:17
  personally, I don't care. I really don't, but he's not
• 1:06:21
  wrong. And Dawn Staley going out after
• 1:06:23
  the game, no. Dawn Staley going out at the.
• 1:06:26
  End of the game and not a apologizing for what she did.
• 1:06:29
  I mean that was disrespectful. At least he went out and he was
• 1:06:32
  a man about it. She will not apologize for what
• 1:06:35
  she did. I think she do.
• 1:06:37
  What do you mean? Go shake your hand postgame.
• 1:06:40
  Did you mad about something happened pregame?
• 1:06:42
  Did she? And she supposed to come out and
• 1:06:44
  say, hey, did she really go out there to shake his hand?
• 1:06:46
  Let me have a. Moment I'll let you talk right.
• 1:06:48
  All right, so no, you didn't listen.
• 1:06:50
  I did. Listen, So what I'm.
• 1:06:52
  Telling you is that she went postgame and Ashley shake his
• 1:06:55
  hand and congratulate him on the this season or whatnot.
• 1:06:58
  He brings up something that happened pregame, gets mad, say
• 1:07:02
  what he had to say and then she's supposed to come out with
• 1:07:05
  a public apology about what she did initiate it.
• 1:07:09
  He threw the first punch. She responded like, hey, you're
• 1:07:12
  not going to talk to me this type of way and move forward.
• 1:07:15
  Then we get to the press conference and she like, hey,
• 1:07:17
  talk to him about what happened. I don't know.
• 1:07:19
  I was blindsided. He came up yelling and screaming
• 1:07:22
  at me. I responded but ask him what's
• 1:07:24
  happening. I won the game.
• 1:07:25
  I beat him by 20 and that's what matters as a professional.
• 1:07:29
  Knowing what? Happened on the court after the
• 1:07:32
  fact, 24 hours later, Geno Ariema went out there, spoke to
• 1:07:37
  the media and apologized. The way he acted when Stanley
• 1:07:40
  went out to the backroom and the way she acted to the media and
• 1:07:43
  the way she spoke to the media, it made it seem like she did
• 1:07:47
  nothing wrong. She was blindsided.
• 1:07:49
  Meanwhile, she knew what she did.
• 1:07:51
  She knew exactly what she did, but she blew it out.
• 1:07:55
  Oh, he's blowing it out of proportion, really.
• 1:07:57
  Because to me, as a professional, and you're a
• 1:08:00
  coach, you're making a lot of money.
• 1:08:02
  You're coaching young women. That's what you're doing.
• 1:08:05
  And you want to make a statement.
• 1:08:06
  You want to be respected as a coach, You don't do that.
• 1:08:11
  Danny Hurley, for all the things that he's done, and he's done
• 1:08:14
  some really ridiculous stuff. He really has.
• 1:08:17
  When Danny Hurley's wrong, he goes out there and he
• 1:08:19
  apologizes. He apologizes.
• 1:08:21
  What he does, he just says, listen, I I get too caught up.
• 1:08:25
  I get caught too caught into it. Have you ever seen Danny Hurley
• 1:08:28
  not go into the middle of a court during the game or before
• 1:08:31
  the game, not, you know, having a conversation with another
• 1:08:34
  coach? I'm going to tell you this right
• 1:08:35
  now. He always does it.
• 1:08:36
  I've never seen Danny Hurley not do it, even if he hates
• 1:08:39
  something. And by the way, Danny Hurley has
• 1:08:41
  gone out there many, many times telling him I don't like this
• 1:08:45
  guy, I don't like that guy, I don't like this guy, I don't
• 1:08:47
  like that guy. I'm the best, I'm the best, I'm
• 1:08:49
  the best. And he still goes out there and
• 1:08:51
  respects the other person when he goes out to the middle of the
• 1:08:54
  basketball court. He did it tonight, too, against
• 1:08:56
  Michigan, by the way, who comes up?
• 1:08:58
  Yeah. Quick question, Should the.
• 1:09:00
  Referee apologize to Dan Hurley for him getting in his face
• 1:09:03
  should a referee should the. Referee because Dan Hurley got
• 1:09:06
  into. His face no should the referee
• 1:09:08
  but Danny Hurley. Actually, a public referee make
• 1:09:10
  a public apology but. He did.
• 1:09:12
  Danny Hurley apologized for whatever.
• 1:09:13
  Referee not not Dan. Hurley, the referee, Yeah, the
• 1:09:16
  referee did, and Danny Hurley said.
• 1:09:18
  You know. I shouldn't have done it that
• 1:09:19
  way after you answered the question, you'd be a politician.
• 1:09:22
  Oh, that's the same thing that happened with Gino.
• 1:09:24
  And no, it's not the same. You may not like.
• 1:09:26
  Her celebrating? You may not like her antics on
• 1:09:29
  backstage, you may not like her talking to the referees or
• 1:09:31
  whatever, but she went out there, shake his hand and he
• 1:09:35
  brought up something that happened an hour ago.
• 1:09:38
  OK. And that's the that's the bottom
• 1:09:40
  line. So she don't owe him an apology
• 1:09:42
  because he wouldn't act up because he got beat by a 20.
• 1:09:45
  He made an apology. And you know why he made the
• 1:09:48
  apology, why he didn't use her name is because the school
• 1:09:51
  forced him to make the apology because it was bad press.
• 1:09:54
  It was bad media. Somebody from the higher up
• 1:09:56
  called in and said, hey, you need to apologize publicly, not
• 1:09:59
  only because it's bad press, but because you're a man attacking a
• 1:10:02
  woman on live TV. That was the reason why he made
• 1:10:04
  the apology. That's not not because Gino
• 1:10:06
  wanted to make the apology. How do you know that?
• 1:10:08
  Are you hanging out? Are you the?
• 1:10:09
  Fly in the room telling him that are you?
• 1:10:12
  Are you in the I don't listen you?
• 1:10:14
  No, he thought about it. He's got a wife maybe.
• 1:10:17
  He's sitting down with his wife and he's having a conversation
• 1:10:19
  with his wife, eating some porridge or whatever the hell he
• 1:10:21
  eats. Some soup, some chicken, Yeah,
• 1:10:23
  whatever. Little bit, whatever.
• 1:10:25
  Probably. I don't know.
• 1:10:27
  The fact here is to me, Gino A, he went out there and he did the
• 1:10:32
  right thing. But you know what, if if I was
• 1:10:35
  Dawn and I'm trying to prove my point and I'm, I'm a woman, I'm
• 1:10:39
  going out there and I'm doing the same thing.
• 1:10:41
  I want to show the young ladies that I'm coaching that I'm going
• 1:10:44
  to go out there and I'm going to be professional.
• 1:10:46
  And I'm going to say, listen, maybe I acted wrong.
• 1:10:48
  Maybe I did something wrong. Maybe I wasn't professional with
• 1:10:50
  this. That's I apologize for not doing
• 1:10:54
  the right thing. That's the way I would have
• 1:10:55
  reacted to it. And any coach would do that.
• 1:10:58
  Any coach would do that. If you're trying to make a
• 1:11:00
  statement, that's what personalism is about.
• 1:11:04
  It's called respect. It's called.
• 1:11:07
  Respect. You comparing your.
• 1:11:08
  Unprofessional. You're comparing you comparing A
• 1:11:11
  referee situation with Danny Hurley had nothing to do with
• 1:11:15
  Dawn Staley and you know Eric. No, it's not.
• 1:11:19
  It's 2. Coaches and a referee.
• 1:11:21
  They wanted behavior. Danny Hurley, woman, he was
• 1:11:25
  happy. Danny Hurley won, he was happy
• 1:11:28
  and Gino lost. But either way, the referee it
• 1:11:32
  makes she did not deserve the hate she.
• 1:11:34
  Did not. Deserve to be in the face,
• 1:11:35
  you're out because if he won or not, referee didn't deserve
• 1:11:39
  that. The referee doesn't play for
• 1:11:41
  you. I disagree.
• 1:11:42
  Speedy makes a great. Point here in the.
• 1:11:44
  Comments Speedy, why don't you say that one out?
• 1:11:46
  Thank you. I was going to ask you this
• 1:11:47
  should I can't. I can't.
• 1:11:48
  And can Polly apologize for Gino's?
• 1:11:50
  I can't. Should.
• 1:11:51
  Apologize if Gino's still for getting his jaw broken.
• 1:11:55
  You are on drugs breaking his jaw, but.
• 1:11:57
  In this situation, it would be. Tito apologizing AK because he
• 1:12:00
  actually was a different so Gino should say hey sorry for
• 1:12:05
  allowing you to break my jaw. It's a good example though,
• 1:12:08
  because you. Know Dawn Staley got in under
• 1:12:10
  his skin. Whatever she said did quietly.
• 1:12:13
  Whatever it was she got under his skin.
• 1:12:16
  Gino clearly got under eye cake and follow the skate in that
• 1:12:20
  situation too, right? So I think that's a great comp
• 1:12:23
  right there. I don't know exactly who should
• 1:12:26
  apologize to who. I think it may have impacted the
• 1:12:30
  championship game because they didn't show up.
• 1:12:32
  They couldn't shoot for shit. South Carolina got waxed in that
• 1:12:35
  game. And I don't know if that, you
• 1:12:38
  know, if it was like it kind of was a hangover for the team as
• 1:12:41
  well. I want to say something too Ed.
• 1:12:43
  I want to say. Something too, Gino could have
• 1:12:44
  went right out on social media and and made a joke about Dawn
• 1:12:48
  Staley and not showing up in the game.
• 1:12:50
  If if that was you con, hold on. If that was you're not, let me
• 1:12:54
  finish it. If Dawn, if Dawn, if Gino was in
• 1:12:56
  that championship game and he got beaten by 20 points, you
• 1:12:59
  know damn well Dawn Staley would have been all over social media
• 1:13:02
  attacking Gino 100 percent, 100%.
• 1:13:06
  You can sell that. You can book it and you can
• 1:13:08
  shove it right in the oven. So speaking.
• 1:13:11
  So he had the he has. The ability to tight and do
• 1:13:14
  press runs when he wins, but when he loses, it's everybody
• 1:13:18
  else's fault. Sports.
• 1:13:22
  Anyways, with four games remaining in the regular season,
• 1:13:25
  the Lakers lost their two best players, Austin Reeves and Luka
• 1:13:28
  Doncic, to injuries. Reeves suffered an oblique
• 1:13:31
  injury in the Lakers loss to the Thunder on Thursday and is
• 1:13:35
  expected to miss four to six weeks, which will keep him out
• 1:13:40
  of the at least the rest of the regular season and the first
• 1:13:44
  round of the playoffs. Reeves also missed time earlier
• 1:13:48
  this year when he suffered A hamstring injury, causing him to
• 1:13:51
  miss 19 games. Luka Doncic suffered a Grade 2
• 1:13:55
  hamstring strain in the in the same game versus the Thunder and
• 1:13:59
  the Lakers say he will definitely be out for the rest
• 1:14:03
  of the regular season and will will be re evaluated and re
• 1:14:08
  evaluate him before the playoffs begin.
• 1:14:11
  This is the third instance already that Luca has fought
• 1:14:16
  injury since being traded to the Lakers in February of 2025.
• 1:14:21
  The Lakers are 50 and 28 and are tied with the Nuggets for the
• 1:14:25
  third seed in the Western Conference and are only one game
• 1:14:29
  ahead of the Rockets, who are 5th, the fifth seed right now,
• 1:14:33
  the Lakers would face either the Nuggets, the Rockets, or the
• 1:14:37
  Timberwolves in the first round of the playoffs.
• 1:14:39
  I'm going to tell you this right now, if Luca doesn't play in the
• 1:14:43
  first round of the playoffs, there's not a chance in hell
• 1:14:44
  they win. Reeves, He could miss the whole
• 1:14:49
  first. There's no way they win with
• 1:14:51
  just LeBron James. There's no way.
• 1:14:54
  So LeBron James is going to have to make a statement.
• 1:14:57
  He's going to have to prove that the old LeBron James could take
• 1:15:00
  over. He could be the old LeBron James
• 1:15:02
  when he played for the Cleveland Cavaliers in his first two or
• 1:15:04
  three years, when he took that team all the way to the
• 1:15:07
  championship against the San Antonio Spurs and get absolutely
• 1:15:10
  swept. I don't believe Luca plays at
• 1:15:14
  all in the playoffs with this injury.
• 1:15:16
  I, I just, you think about this injury, it's a hamstring injury.
• 1:15:20
  It's a significant, significant injury.
• 1:15:23
  And when you're using your legs, you're running up and down the
• 1:15:25
  court. And I'm not saying Luka Doncic
• 1:15:27
  is a speed demon. He's not Russell Westbrook, he's
• 1:15:29
  not one of those guys. But what is he going to pair up?
• 1:15:32
  He's going to hobble right over there across the and try to
• 1:15:35
  shoot a ball. He's got to jump.
• 1:15:37
  There's no way in hell Luka Doncic is going to play in the
• 1:15:41
  first round of the playoffs. Whoever they're matched against,
• 1:15:44
  if they're matched against an August, they don't stand a
• 1:15:46
  chance. The match against the Rockets,
• 1:15:47
  they don't stand a chance. The Timberwolves, I don't know,
• 1:15:49
  it's a hit or miss with the Timberwolves.
• 1:15:51
  What Timberwolves team is going to show up in the first round?
• 1:15:54
  Because we've seen them completely not show up and we've
• 1:15:56
  seen them go all the way to the finals.
• 1:15:57
  Now, here's the thing. Austin Reeves to me is, is
• 1:16:02
  tough. He's a tough guy.
• 1:16:05
  And I could see Austin Reeves somehow playing in the first
• 1:16:08
  round even with an injury. Now, an oblique tear or a bleak
• 1:16:12
  injury. I don't know if it's a tear or
• 1:16:14
  it's a sprain. I don't know what it is.
• 1:16:16
  We've seen it in baseball. Baseball you could be out a
• 1:16:18
  significant amount of time. You're you're talking about
• 1:16:21
  maybe 2-3 months now. Basketball.
• 1:16:25
  I've seen guys come back. I've seen Amar Stoudemire come
• 1:16:27
  back from an oblique injury in the playoffs.
• 1:16:30
  And when everybody said that he wasn't going to be back for four
• 1:16:33
  to six weeks or three weeks or six weeks.
• 1:16:35
  And he came back two weeks. Now depending on the situation
• 1:16:39
  or how bad the terror is or how bad the injury, and it seems
• 1:16:42
  like if it's a sprain to me, he could be back a lot sooner than
• 1:16:47
  later. If it's a terror, he six weeks
• 1:16:50
  at least, maybe 8 weeks. I would think that more than
• 1:16:53
  likely that Austin Reeves will be back in the first round, then
• 1:16:57
  Luka Doncic. I don't know if Luka Doncic
• 1:16:59
  plays anymore this year. And you're not going to put your
• 1:17:02
  franchise player at risk. You're not winning a
• 1:17:05
  championship as LeBron James came out numerous amount of time
• 1:17:09
  saying we're not winning a championship this year.
• 1:17:11
  No matter what we do, no matter where we come out of the Western
• 1:17:15
  Conference, we're not winning a championship.
• 1:17:17
  And how's she thinking? If LeBron doesn't think they're
• 1:17:19
  going to win and the organization doesn't think
• 1:17:22
  they're going to win, why are they going to put the guy, the
• 1:17:24
  two guys that are going to be there for, for the next 5 to 10
• 1:17:28
  years at risk when you're going to have a chance to win a
• 1:17:31
  championship? Maybe next year if you get
• 1:17:32
  Giannis. Or maybe you make a move and you
• 1:17:34
  trade for another superstar player to come and play with
• 1:17:37
  Reeves, who's going to get a big contract in the offseason or
• 1:17:39
  Luca Doncic just signed a significant contract with them.
• 1:17:43
  I'm not putting my organization at risk, especially when LeBron
• 1:17:46
  James is throwing the organization under the bus just
• 1:17:48
  because LeBron wants to win #5 before he leaves.
• 1:17:52
  I, I think it's a bad move for the Lakers now.
• 1:17:55
  I JJ Reddick right now is on the hot seat.
• 1:17:58
  He is on a hot seat because if Lebron's gone, he's gone too,
• 1:18:02
  because there's no way Luca is going to want JJ Redick there
• 1:18:06
  when he was a LeBron James guy. So JJ needs to go out there and
• 1:18:09
  win series. He needs to at least come out of
• 1:18:12
  the first round if he plans to keep his job.
• 1:18:14
  And this is a a Laker team that's had a very good year.
• 1:18:17
  They played very good even without without LeBron James.
• 1:18:20
  Austin Reeves became a superstar player, a star player this year.
• 1:18:23
  Luca Dodgek has proven to you, proven to everybody that this
• 1:18:26
  guy, if you didn't get hurt, I think Luca wins the energy P.
• 1:18:29
  He's been, he's been not good for the last three weeks.
• 1:18:31
  You shake your head. Who's been better than him?
• 1:18:34
  Who's been better than him? Shay Alexander has not been
• 1:18:36
  better than him. He hasn't.
• 1:18:38
  He hasn't. If you look at the numbers, he
• 1:18:39
  hasn't been Lucas and the numbers they tell.
• 1:18:42
  Tell it cause a lot of the four quarters as you won't even play
• 1:18:45
  in Shay's playing on an all around team.
• 1:18:48
  Shay's playing with the. Oklahoma City.
• 1:18:50
  Thunder, which is probably the best overall team in the league.
• 1:18:53
  So and Lucas playing with Lucas playing on a. 2nd tier.
• 1:18:57
  Team with an old LeBron James who doesn't want to be there and
• 1:19:00
  Austin Reeves is just finally becoming a player that people
• 1:19:03
  are talking about. So to tell me when, when you
• 1:19:06
  talk about MVP, Most Valuable Player, he is the Most Valuable
• 1:19:09
  Player to the team. Shay Alexander goes or he drops
• 1:19:13
  that team still is winning. That's still it's still an elite
• 1:19:15
  team in Western Conference with the time that they have.
• 1:19:17
  What do you mean? They're they're.
• 1:19:19
  Probably the best team in the Western Conference.
• 1:19:21
  They're professionals, so they can win.
• 1:19:22
  Some games, but you talking about winning what?
• 1:19:24
  They're the best team in the Western Conference even.
• 1:19:26
  Without check, I still think San Antonio.
• 1:19:29
  So San Antonio probably got I. Don't trust San Antonio and San.
• 1:19:32
  Antonio, you don't, but they beat them three out of four.
• 1:19:34
  Times. That's fine, they match up very.
• 1:19:37
  Well, the Knicks are beaten. The Knicks are beaten.
• 1:19:39
  San Antonio pulverized San Antonio.
• 1:19:41
  Both games. Both games.
• 1:19:43
  Does that mean that the Knicks are going to beat them in A7
• 1:19:45
  game series? No.
• 1:19:46
  OK, so you could say what matchups are matchups?
• 1:19:50
  That's that's how it works. That doesn't mean that they can
• 1:19:53
  in a playoff game, even without Che Alexander that OKC can't
• 1:19:57
  beat the San Antonio spy have no chance against.
• 1:19:59
  I disagree with you, San Antonio Without, I disagree with you.
• 1:20:02
  I disagree with you. But to go back to this Lakers
• 1:20:05
  situation, I. Think that if they match up with
• 1:20:07
  the Minnesota Timberwolves, they could possibly make it out the
• 1:20:09
  first round because we don't know exactly what comes with
• 1:20:12
  them. And I think that we could see
• 1:20:14
  LeBron go to going to terror. He can score and get those guys
• 1:20:19
  involved in the game. So as bad as that loss was not
• 1:20:22
  really that bad, but as bad as that loss was against the
• 1:20:24
  marriage, if you look at LeBron had 15 assists that game.
• 1:20:27
  So this is with a team that he's never been on the court with.
• 1:20:30
  So you got to take that into consideration that if they these
• 1:20:33
  last couple of games during the season, they get an opportunity
• 1:20:36
  to play with each other and get some chemistry together.
• 1:20:38
  And they play a team like the Timberwolves, which I think is
• 1:20:41
  kind of overrated this year. They play against them.
• 1:20:43
  Rockets, I think it's overrated as well.
• 1:20:45
  But they got the talent to kind of get over there, although they
• 1:20:49
  got KD and what's it Smith Junior like?
• 1:20:52
  As long as they got them, they're going to probably talent
• 1:20:55
  them. But if they can't hit the shots,
• 1:20:56
  Rockets are overrated. Absolutely, I keep telling you
• 1:21:00
  that. You also you also keep telling
• 1:21:03
  us that the Atlanta Hawks. Might go far into play.
• 1:21:06
  Watch. Watch who don't.
• 1:21:07
  Want to play against Atlanta? Please, please, you're going to
• 1:21:10
  tell me. That Atlanta Hawks are better
• 1:21:12
  than the Rockets. I hope the Knicks play the
• 1:21:13
  Rockets. I mean I.
• 1:21:14
  Do too. It'll be an easy round.
• 1:21:17
  It'll be an easy. Seven games.
• 1:21:19
  It'll be an easy seven games. For the Knicks?
• 1:21:21
  Easy. Seven game, it's not good luck,
• 1:21:23
  I'm telling you. And and Luka Doncic, I don't,
• 1:21:26
  I'm not rushing Luka Doncic back.
• 1:21:28
  He's an injury prone player. Say whatever you want about
• 1:21:30
  Luke, how great he is as a player, he has been as good of
• 1:21:34
  players since coming out of the draft.
• 1:21:35
  He's sensational. He's for a guy who's 610.
• 1:21:38
  He can play the point guard position, he can shoot, he can
• 1:21:41
  pass, he can rebound. He's a sensational player.
• 1:21:43
  He doesn't play defense and that's a big problem when it
• 1:21:45
  comes to the Lakers and the playoffs putting him in harm's
• 1:21:50
  way. When you plan maybe next year to
• 1:21:53
  bring in another superstar to play with your two guys, Reeves
• 1:21:56
  and Luka Tajik, there's a good chance that they're going to
• 1:21:59
  make a run for Giannis. There's a very good chance they
• 1:22:01
  make a run for you. I don't know if they get them.
• 1:22:03
  I don't know how it works. But if they do, I mean, they're
• 1:22:06
  automatically the the favorite to coming out of the Western
• 1:22:09
  Conference next year if they get Giannis Breeze out of there.
• 1:22:12
  I don't think that works though. How that's going to how that's
• 1:22:14
  going to work, I don't know, but a lot of people A.
• 1:22:16
  Lot of people, well, Lebron's going to be gone.
• 1:22:18
  Lebron's gone. He's not.
• 1:22:21
  Opting in to he is a. He is a player option.
• 1:22:24
  There's no way he's opting into that contract.
• 1:22:26
  There's no way he's going back to Cleveland.
• 1:22:28
  I I. Think there's a better chance of
• 1:22:30
  him? Going to Cleveland, Miami or the
• 1:22:32
  Knicks than him staying with the Lakers.
• 1:22:34
  I think there's a better chance of him going to Cleveland than
• 1:22:36
  any one of those teams. You make jokes, but it's true.
• 1:22:39
  Dallas is another thing. Dallas is.
• 1:22:41
  I I don't want him to go to. The Knicks, so I hope he, I hope
• 1:22:44
  they fumble as much as they can. I don't want LeBron there.
• 1:22:47
  He's going to ruin that team and he's going to ruin that lineup,
• 1:22:49
  so I don't want him. You make jokes, but I'd rather
• 1:22:51
  them go into Celtics because the Celtics are a dumb organization.
• 1:22:54
  They'll probably make that move too.
• 1:22:56
  A winning organization. Yeah.
• 1:22:57
  Oh yeah, they're winning. Oh yeah, they're a great.
• 1:22:59
  Winning organization. They're great.
• 1:23:00
  Recent champion. 24 Great, great they won 1 champion.
• 1:23:05
  And soon to get Braylan Mullins right.
• 1:23:06
  Q. Right.
• 1:23:10
  Lost. Lost.
• 1:23:12
  He's wearing a New York Yankees hat and he's a Celtic fan.
• 1:23:15
  Tell what color it is. I know.
• 1:23:16
  Enough of those it's blue. It's still a Yankees.
• 1:23:19
  What are? You talking about you're telling
• 1:23:21
  me your. Yankees hat is in blue.
• 1:23:23
  No, what the hell is it, Carolina Blue?
• 1:23:26
  Sorry. It's a Carolina blue hat.
• 1:23:30
  I'm sorry. It's.
• 1:23:32
  Not blue, it's Carolina blue. I just said it was blue.
• 1:23:36
  It's still blue, you idiot. I don't get this guy sometimes.
• 1:23:42
  I'm lost. I'm trying to compare colors.
• 1:23:44
  What are you telling me? I'm color blind.
• 1:23:46
  You know what? It's a purple hat.
• 1:23:47
  That's what it is. It's a purple.
• 1:23:49
  It's Carolina purple. It's a Carolina purple hat.
• 1:23:52
  That's what it is. It's right in front of my face.
• 1:23:54
  It's square right in front of my face right now.
• 1:23:56
  Thank you, Fish. I'm going to tell you also this
• 1:23:59
  about the Lakers, the organization.
• 1:24:02
  The organization's on the hot scene because Jeanie Buss is
• 1:24:06
  still the president of the organization.
• 1:24:09
  But how long is this going to take?
• 1:24:10
  This is a, this is a winning organization.
• 1:24:12
  They've won. They've never gone in these
• 1:24:15
  these long droughts and winning championships.
• 1:24:18
  When was the last time they won a championship?
• 1:24:19
  I think it's like 2020. It's been 6.
• 1:24:22
  Years now. It's going to go six years
• 1:24:24
  without a championship. This is an organization that's
• 1:24:27
  been consistent and they always bring in the star.
• 1:24:31
  They've they pretty much was handed Luka Doncic.
• 1:24:33
  I don't know if if I was Giannis, do I want to go to
• 1:24:37
  Lakers in and and be shadowed by Luka Doncic?
• 1:24:39
  No, if it happens, if it becomes available, I can't see that
• 1:24:43
  happening. Luka Luke is a guy that wants to
• 1:24:46
  be the center of attention. He wants to be the guy and and
• 1:24:48
  LeBron still thinks that he can be the guy.
• 1:24:51
  And if somehow LeBron James without Reeves and without Luca,
• 1:24:55
  he gets out of the first round and gets any one of those teams,
• 1:24:58
  that's pretty impressive. A 40 something year old man
• 1:25:02
  taking a team that don't play any defense whatsoever.
• 1:25:05
  Not a lick of it. And and by the way, JJ Redick,
• 1:25:08
  if I was JJ, I'm sweating right now.
• 1:25:11
  I am absolutely sweating because I know my superstar player don't
• 1:25:14
  like me. He don't like him and I and I'm
• 1:25:17
  sorry, him coming out and say, well, this is what a player and
• 1:25:19
  a coach does. Get the hell out of here.
• 1:25:22
  Are you kidding me? When your player on the bench is
• 1:25:24
  yelling at you and by the way, your two superstars, the one
• 1:25:27
  that you kiss his ass and the other one on the other side is
• 1:25:31
  Luka Doncic. They don't even want to sit next
• 1:25:33
  to each other on the bench. They never sit next to each
• 1:25:35
  other on the bench. I don't know if anybody knows
• 1:25:37
  this. I watched the Laker games.
• 1:25:39
  I just want to stare at what's going on because these guys do
• 1:25:42
  not talk on the bench. They have no, like I'm not
• 1:25:47
  saying they don't respect each other, but they they as leaders
• 1:25:50
  and as superstars, they don't like each other.
• 1:25:52
  They really don't. You shake your head, but it's
• 1:25:55
  true. No, I don't think it's based
• 1:25:57
  off. The evidence you present,
• 1:25:59
  really. Like, yeah, like most superstars
• 1:26:01
  don't sit beside each other. Like that's not a so.
• 1:26:04
  So what if they usually take? Up like one or two seats.
• 1:26:07
  So it doesn't really make sense. So what happened?
• 1:26:10
  A couple of what happened. A couple of months ago when
• 1:26:12
  they're trying to decide who shoots the final shot of the
• 1:26:14
  game and and why they lost the game because LeBron thinks Lucas
• 1:26:18
  going to shoot it and Luca thinks Lebron's going to shoot
• 1:26:20
  it and they completely bomb it. And you're going to tell me that
• 1:26:23
  these guys like each other? No, because they can't.
• 1:26:26
  They don't talk to one another. That's why they bombed it.
• 1:26:28
  That's why they made the mistake on the basketball card, because
• 1:26:31
  they don't like one another. They have nothing to say one
• 1:26:34
  another. LeBron James, how many times
• 1:26:36
  have we heard Kyrie Irving come out and say that?
• 1:26:38
  I never realized what a leader needs to do until I left.
• 1:26:43
  I left Cleveland and I went to the Celtics and they wanted me
• 1:26:46
  to be a leader and I couldn't be a leader.
• 1:26:48
  And that's what happened. And, and that's why Kyrie Irving
• 1:26:50
  never really really flourished over there with the Celtics
• 1:26:54
  because he didn't know. He thought he could do it.
• 1:26:56
  And then he tried to go do it with the Brooklyn Nets.
• 1:26:58
  And we all know what happened with him and James Harden and
• 1:27:01
  Kevin Durant. They were outside that selling
• 1:27:02
  playoff tickets and. Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant is
• 1:27:05
  not a leader. Leader, we all know.
• 1:27:07
  And James Harden's not a leader. He's a leader by example.
• 1:27:09
  Oh please. Is.
• 1:27:11
  That. Is that what his Twitter
• 1:27:12
  accounts? Say.
• 1:27:13
  Leader by example, so. You don't have to be.
• 1:27:15
  He's a leader. You know his voice.
• 1:27:17
  Like there's a lot of a lot of people don't understand that
• 1:27:19
  there's other voices in the huddle that they take different
• 1:27:23
  things. It's not always like so you
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  think every didn't have a voice on the Ravens?
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  No, but I could tell you one guy.
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  I'm not saying that he didn't or he didn't.
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  I'm saying that I'm going to tell you he did OK.
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  How do you know you hang? Out with that?
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  Well, you hanging out in the huddle.
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  He was actually signed by the. Jets, I don't know if you
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  realized that. Yeah, I remember.
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  Yeah, I remember. Yeah, so I actually do know
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  because I talked to. Him.
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  Oh, good. Well, good.
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  You talk to him. I never spoke to him.
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  I probably probably rather not trust me then I actually know.
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  Yeah, well, let's let's talk about.
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  Bart Scott How? How big of a leader was he in
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  the huddle? He was not a leader.
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  OK, OK. Well, why wasn't?
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  He a leader. He was not a leader.
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  What do you mean the? Jets hired him as a leader.
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  No, they did it. Yes, he did.
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  They brought him in. The man brought him the man
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  back. Signed him as a player.
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  Oh, stop. I remember when Rex Ryan signed
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  Ryan. Thomas was a leader.
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  Well, hold on. Hold on, Rex Ryan.
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  I remember that press conference.
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  A while I remember. That offseason when they.
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  Signed. When they brought in Bart Scott
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  and I remember what Rex Ryan said in front of all the media
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  says this guy is one of the best leaders I've ever worked with
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  over there with the Baltimore Ravens.
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  This guy is going to be a boy. He's a born leader.
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  He's going to be the leader of my defense.
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  Was he a leader of his defense, yes or no?
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  No, but here's what you got to understand.
• 1:28:38
  There's certain coaches like loudmouths, like certain coaches
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  like people who talk loud. That doesn't mean that they're
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  they're actually the leader of the team.
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  They don't mean they're taking control over the defense or
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  offense. So that's what I'm saying.
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  So like, I like you as a loudmouth, you know what I mean?
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  But that doesn't mean that I would have you as the leader of
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  a team if we're going to war, you know what I'm saying?
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  I just like, hey, I thought you could impact it, but I wouldn't
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  bring you on in the knee. Oh, so you wouldn't bring the
• 1:29:05
  leader of the team of the war? Oh, so you wouldn't bring?
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  Me and media. Immediate now and media is.
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  Different. We ain't talking of media, we
• 1:29:11
  talking about going to a war. Why couldn't I be a leader in a
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  war? We'll save it for after the
• 1:29:17
  show. Wait a second, I could?
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  Be a general. I could be a captain.
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  What do you? What do you What?
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  Are you kidding me? I think you have great.
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  Trace Oh yeah, you're a killer. Yeah, there it.
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  Is nice. It's nice, I figured.
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  Interesting. But you are a good leader
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  though. But it's not for certain
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  situations. It's OK, you don't have to
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  compliment me. No, you.
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  I love you. You're a good guy.
• 1:29:43
  Oh, thank you. I I I appreciate.
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  It I love you too. You're a good leader.
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  I don't want that to be misunderstood.
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  Well, you know if it is miss everybody's.
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  Picked for a few. Just kidding, thank.
• 1:29:54
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• 1:30:06
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• 1:30:10
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• 1:30:15
  We really appreciate you guys as we're going to be doing some big
• 1:30:18
  things moving forward on this show and making you guys laugh
• 1:30:22
  and probably they call me the ladies man and Mr. Still.
• 1:30:24
  You girl, do you want to jerk me off?
• 1:30:26
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• 1:30:29
  Fans, we will be back on Thursday.
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• 1:30:42
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• 1:30:43
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• 1:30:46
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• 1:30:50
  Hate on them. I think for a lot of beef I got
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  to go. Back off now.
• 1:30:53
  That's what Nathan's going to do after the show, ladies.
• 1:30:55
  And. Gentlemen.
• 1:30:56
  All right, that's it for a show. Dominique Easley and I got to
• 1:30:59
  go. I got to go take a dump or
• 1:31:01
  something. Good night.
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