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The Kenny Report | 22 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Laura from the Skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me for another busy week here on
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  Speaker 3: the Kenny Report. Well, I've been tipping this for three years,
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  Speaker 3: of course, but finally Joe Biden has admitted that he
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  Speaker 3: can't run for re election. Tonight I'll talk to Kristen
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  Speaker 3: Tate and Barbara Heineback will track the reaction here and
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  Speaker 3: in the US. Some say Vice President Kamala Harris is
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  Speaker 3: a lock to get the Democrat nomination. Now I say,
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  Speaker 3: not so quick. There's a bit to play out just yet.
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  Speaker 3: Also tonight an inquiry on women's pain. We'll hear from
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  Speaker 3: transgender women too.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever next.
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  Speaker 3: And all those extra jobs who have been creating in
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  Speaker 3: this country, well most of them are either in government
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  Speaker 3: or in unproductive parts of the economy.
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  Speaker 2: Port Murray will join me.
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  Speaker 3: Also gemmaton UNI, Caroline Drusso and Sophie Elsworth on the
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  Speaker 3: ABC's Trump Derangement syndrome.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: The free world is literally rudderless as we speak. The
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  Speaker 3: US President, Joe Biden finally announces he can't run for
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  Speaker 3: a second term, but he'll serve out this term. That's
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  Speaker 3: another six months. And this news came via a tweet
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  Speaker 3: from his basement. Because we haven't seen or heard from
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  Speaker 3: the president for days. We showed you the sad pictures
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  Speaker 3: of the president feebly returning to his Delaware beach house
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  Speaker 3: last week to recover from a dose of COVID, and
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  Speaker 3: then three days later that Sunday avo tweet in America
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  Speaker 3: announcing he'll not accept the Democratic nomination to be candidate
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  Speaker 3: for a second term. Instead, he wants the party to
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  Speaker 3: endorse his vice president Kamala Harris, to run against Republican
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: So it ends with the tweets. I mean, who.
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  Speaker 3: Knows for sure whether Biden even knows this tweet's been posted.
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  Speaker 3: I'm joking, of course, but if ever a political announcement
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  Speaker 3: demanded a live television address to the nation, surely this
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  Speaker 3: was it.
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  Speaker 2: We need to hear from Joe Biden. Now.
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  Speaker 3: This resignation, this withdrawal, of course, is no surprise to you.
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  Speaker 3: I've been saying here for three years that Biden wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: run again. It's been a slow motion train wreck that's
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  Speaker 3: gathered momentum in recent months as well. But there's much
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  Speaker 3: more to come, of course, because you listen to those
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  Speaker 3: saying Kamala Harris is a lock to be the candidate.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to remember that these are the same people
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  Speaker 3: who were telling you just last week that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: would still run the level of denial among the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: and the leftist media has been astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: Look at this from just a couple of.
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  Speaker 3: Days ago, trying to flip the debate onto Trump's mental capability.
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  Speaker 4: So it makes the question what would it mean to
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  Speaker 4: have a president in office who is that far gone
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  Speaker 4: cognitively that much in his own world? Because trumpson oherents
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  Speaker 4: about everything suggests that mag buacats bureaucrats like Tom Holman
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  Speaker 4: would be completely empowered.
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  Speaker 2: Trump said to.
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  Speaker 3: Himself, yeah, nice, attempted deflection, And a guest on that
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  Speaker 3: same show told people to give Jie Biden a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a break.
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  Speaker 5: He's got three and ninety four delegates, and he's like,
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  Speaker 5: come get them, you want them, come get them, their
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  Speaker 5: mine and I'm keeping them. And you know what, to me,
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  Speaker 5: that's a sign of spect and that's a sign of vitality,
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  Speaker 5: and that's a sign that he wants this and he's
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  Speaker 5: in this, and why is there this creation of these
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  Speaker 5: stumbling blocks to just make him look week, make the
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  Speaker 5: party look weak because all we're doing is sending voters away.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I think Joe Biden spent the one making himself
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  Speaker 3: look weak, and no one else has been doing it
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  Speaker 3: for him. Still, even with loyal, if not delusional, defenders
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  Speaker 3: like that, Biden has now, of course withdrawn. But when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to Kamala Harris, remember the vospers has to
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  Speaker 3: win over the delegates at next month's convention. Now, sure,
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  Speaker 3: she's the front runner, she has the advantage of an
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  Speaker 3: office in the West Wing already, but it's no big
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  Speaker 3: deal that Biden endorsed her.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he had to.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to keep working with her as his vice
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  Speaker 3: president for the next six months. More to the point,
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  Speaker 3: ask yourself this, If Biden really wanted Kamala Harris to
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  Speaker 3: be president, wouldn't he have quit the presidency on health
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  Speaker 3: grounds this week? That would have seen her sworn in
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  Speaker 3: as president automatically, the first female president. Wouldn't that have
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  Speaker 3: been her best shot? The truth is, of course, Harris
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  Speaker 3: was a diversity pick. She ran in the Democrat primary
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  Speaker 3: race in twenty twenty, but did so badly that she
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  Speaker 3: pulled out before a vote had even been cast. Then
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  Speaker 3: after Biden won, he made it clear that he'd choose
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  Speaker 3: a woman as a running mate, and it was briefed
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  Speaker 3: out that he was considering women of color. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: there were demands that he appoint a black woman, and
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  Speaker 3: Inside has suggested the choice would focus on that demographic,
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  Speaker 3: and Harris loomed large then as an option, and when
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  Speaker 3: she was announced, both Harris and Biden put identity issues
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  Speaker 3: front and center.
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  Speaker 6: And this morning, all across the nation, little girls woke up,
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  Speaker 6: especially little black and brown girls who so often feel
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  Speaker 6: overlooked and undervalued in their communities. But today, today es
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  Speaker 6: maybe they're seeing themselves for the first time in a
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  Speaker 6: new way as the stuff of president and vice president.
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  Speaker 7: And today he takes his place in the ongoing story
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  Speaker 7: of America's march toward equality and justice as only as
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  Speaker 7: the only, as the only who has served alongside the
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  Speaker 7: first black president and has chosen the first black woman
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  Speaker 7: as is running me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all pretty clear, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: And while political considerations are always important in vice presidential choices,
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  Speaker 3: there are few jobs in the world where merit should
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  Speaker 3: be more important.
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  Speaker 2: It's a cliche, sure, but the job.
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  Speaker 3: Actually means you're a heart beat away from the most
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  Speaker 3: powerful role in the world, and Kamala Harris has never
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  Speaker 3: been up to it, confusing democratic allies South Korea, for instance,
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  Speaker 3: with the tyrannical communist North.
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  Speaker 8: The United States shares a very important relationship, which is
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  Speaker 8: an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
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  Speaker 1: And it is an alliance that is strong and enduring.
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  Speaker 3: The alliance with North Korea. Hey, good lord at home.
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  Speaker 3: Harris has had responsibility for fixing the border crisis, and
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  Speaker 3: she's failed. Have a look at this exchange about seeing
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  Speaker 3: the problem firsthand.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to visit the border at
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  Speaker 1: some point?
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  Speaker 9: You know.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to the border. We've been to the border.
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  Speaker 8: So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border.
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  Speaker 1: We've been to the border. We've been to the border.
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  Speaker 8: You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been
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  Speaker 8: to Europe, and I don't I don't understand the point
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  Speaker 8: that you're making.
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  Speaker 3: What does anybody understand the point she was making? Harris
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  Speaker 3: has confounded audiences around the world by breaking into inexplicable
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  Speaker 3: laughter at uncomfortable moments.
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  Speaker 2: And bizarre even in nane.
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  Speaker 3: Set piece speeches have worried us here all the way along, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can imagine what can and be and be unburdened by
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  Speaker 1: what has been.
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  Speaker 7: You know, what can be unburdened by what has been?
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  Speaker 7: What can be unburdened by what has been?
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  Speaker 9: What can be unburdened by what has been? What can
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  Speaker 9: be unburdened by what has been? What we can see,
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  Speaker 9: what we believe can be unburdened by what has been?
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  Speaker 9: What can be unburdened by what has been?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Harris will be hoping that Democrat delegates vote for
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  Speaker 3: her without being burdened by what they've seen. Perhaps most
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  Speaker 3: worrying of all has been the way that the VP
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  Speaker 3: has pretended that all is well with her president.
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  Speaker 8: Not only is he absolutely authoritative in rooms around the globe,
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  Speaker 8: but in the Oval office, meeting with members of Congress,
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  Speaker 8: meeting with leaders in industry, meeting with community leaders.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you that he is in.
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  Speaker 8: Front of often everyone in the room in terms of
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  Speaker 8: thinking about how we can resolve issues, look.
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  Speaker 2: To be fair. What else could she say?
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  Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons I've got so little sympathy
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  Speaker 3: for Joe Biden. His selfishness in hanging on has forced
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  Speaker 3: his colleagues and even his allies to pretend all is well.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look at this from last year.
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  Speaker 10: Can I say this about President Biden. I think he
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  Speaker 10: is doing an extraordinary job. I regard him as a
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  Speaker 10: friend of mine.
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  Speaker 11: You don't think he's too old when you're dealings with him,
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  Speaker 11: you don't get a feeling of it.
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  Speaker 10: Not at all, Not at all. He is totally on
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  Speaker 10: top of his brief.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What an absurd situation, Hey, especially when this has been
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  Speaker 3: so obvious that since.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one I went back and checked.
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  Speaker 3: I've been saying here that there's no way he could
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  Speaker 3: run for a second term. It's been a sorry saga
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  Speaker 3: of denial from the political left and their mates in
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  Speaker 3: the media. They've watched this unfold and they've either sensed
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  Speaker 3: it or they tried to make excuses for it.
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  Speaker 2: We all these truths to be self evident. Oh man,
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  Speaker 2: and women creative by the go. You know that. You
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  Speaker 2: know the thing?
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  Speaker 13: America is a nation that can be defined in a
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  Speaker 13: single word him, I shouldn't beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: At a political level.
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  Speaker 4: And uh.
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  Speaker 2: And his ball as sharp.
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  Speaker 13: I signed the pack and pack into the law. He
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  Speaker 13: had tied that fall. He decided to look, I shouldn't
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  Speaker 13: get into this.
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  Speaker 2: It's just been painful to watch, hasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: And then when it came to the live presidential debate
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  Speaker 3: late last month, the eyes of the US and the
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  Speaker 3: world were on the president live to air, and the
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  Speaker 3: obvious reality of his diminished capacity could be disguised.
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  Speaker 14: No more eligible for what I've been able to do
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  Speaker 14: with the with the COVID, I could be with dealing
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  Speaker 14: with everything we have to do with.
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  Speaker 15: Look if we finally beat medicare.
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  Speaker 3: So when you see media commentators now telling you that
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  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris will be the nominee, remember they're the same
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  Speaker 3: people who pretended away Joe Biden's was just because they
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  Speaker 3: thought he was best placed to defeat Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: But he's totally focused.
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  Speaker 16: He's very shy.
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  Speaker 1: They see his sharpened meetings and saw a very loose
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  Speaker 1: involves very well done for him by his state lead.
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  Speaker 1: His comes with gravatized pages is an issue.
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  Speaker 17: Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical characteristics
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  Speaker 17: against them.
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  Speaker 4: He's older, but that doesn't mean that he is unfit,
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  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of ages in there.
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  Speaker 18: Joe Biden may not be able to speak for himself
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  Speaker 18: the way that he is to they want to.
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  Speaker 13: Think it is to take on government if we get
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  Speaker 13: out of line, which they're talking on again about and
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  Speaker 13: him lying around.
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  Speaker 1: I think people should be speaking up for Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Their duplicity and their willingness to deceive has been exposed
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  Speaker 3: now for all to see. It's a little wonder that
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  Speaker 3: Trump's anti establishment, anti swamp message resonates so strongly. As
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  Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris, she'll be terrified about another strong candidate emerging,
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  Speaker 3: someone like Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer or the dream ticket
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  Speaker 3: that so many on the left hope for Michelle Obama.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine the Democrat base being energized to put the Obamas
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  Speaker 3: back in the world White House. The Democratic National Convention
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  Speaker 3: is still four weeks away, and the election is more
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  Speaker 3: than four months away. Donald Trump was looking a sure
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  Speaker 3: thing until yesterday, but having left the Biden decisions so late,
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  Speaker 3: we can expect the Democrats to do whatever they need
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  Speaker 3: to to make this a much closer contest. Let's kick
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  Speaker 3: off the program tonight by going first to Washington and
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  Speaker 3: Sky News his own Trudy Macintosh to find out how
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  Speaker 3: this news broke in the.
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  Speaker 19: US well at one forty six pm Sunday afternoon in Washington, DC,
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  Speaker 19: Joe Biden posted this letter to his ex account. It's
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  Speaker 19: an unconventional way to drop out of a presidential race,
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  Speaker 19: but that's how Joe Biden ultimately decided to tell the
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  Speaker 19: American people that he is no longer going to be
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  Speaker 19: running for reelection against Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 16: It partly is probably explained.
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  Speaker 19: By the fact that he's been battling with COVID abruptly coming.
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  Speaker 16: Off the election campaign trail, and in the middle of
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  Speaker 16: last week. He hasn't been seen publicly since.
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  Speaker 19: We haven't seen any photographs, as hasn't been any media opportunities.
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  Speaker 16: He's been recovering according to his doctor.
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  Speaker 19: But the decision today not to do this as an
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  Speaker 19: address to the nation, not to appear on camera, rather
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  Speaker 19: a written statement. He's promising to come back here in
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  Speaker 19: the next few days. We will see that address to
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  Speaker 19: the nation, and by that point it's going to be
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  Speaker 19: pretty clear. He endorsed his VP Kamala Harrison. It seems
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  Speaker 19: like everything's locking in behind her as the hours continue
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  Speaker 19: here that she will be the one to replace Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 3: It is just extraordinary, of course, when he went into
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  Speaker 3: COVID isolation under all sorts of pressure.
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  Speaker 2: We were saying that this is where he's going.
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  Speaker 3: To talk to his colleagues, talk to his family, try
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  Speaker 3: and consider what he's going to do in the future.
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  Speaker 3: But the idea that the leader of the free world
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  Speaker 3: sort of says he's not going to run again by
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  Speaker 3: tweet is quite extraordinary. So there will be a lot
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  Speaker 3: of expectation in the US about what he and Kamala
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  Speaker 3: Harris and others will say tomorrow or in coming days.
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  Speaker 3: But the other point here, I suppose, is that there
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  Speaker 3: was an alternative truty. There was an alternative for him
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  Speaker 3: to actually resign from the presidency, in which case Kamala
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  Speaker 3: Harris would be sworn in immediately. There would be no
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  Speaker 3: problem with a Democrat convention or looking at whether or
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  Speaker 3: not other nominees come forward.
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  Speaker 2: He could have handed over to her.
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  Speaker 19: I think that would have just been a step too
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  Speaker 19: far for Joe Biden's ego. It was already so hard
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  Speaker 19: for him clearly to come to this decision that he
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  Speaker 19: needed to bow out for the good of his party.
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  Speaker 19: We know he's a proud man at times, a stubborn man.
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  Speaker 19: According to those who know him well.
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  Speaker 16: He doesn't think necessarily will.
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  Speaker 19: He hadn't up until this morning, according to reports, he
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  Speaker 19: didn't believe that he couldn't beat Trump. He still thought
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  Speaker 19: that ultimately he was being underestimated by his Democrat colleagues.
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  Speaker 19: For him to have resigned today, I just don't think
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  Speaker 19: he could get himself to that point. We've seen him
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  Speaker 19: on the decline since that debate just twenty five days ago.
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  Speaker 19: But that will ultimately be the moment in history. I
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  Speaker 19: think that the chapter closed on Joe Biden. He tried
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  Speaker 19: to fight on for these twenty five days, but ultimately,
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  Speaker 19: as the pressure was growing, initially privately and then those
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  Speaker 19: incredibly damaging leeks in the hours after he publicly said
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  Speaker 19: he had COVID from Nazy Pelosi Chuck Schumer. Once that
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  Speaker 19: started to come out, the briefing about what Barack Obama
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  Speaker 19: was saying, Ultimately, this is always going to be untenable
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  Speaker 19: for him to remain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I think it's disgraceful the way the Democrat Party
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  Speaker 3: has handled this. Has been obvious for two to three
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  Speaker 3: years that he can't go a second term. That've been
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  Speaker 3: dragged to face reality. Now at the last moment, tell
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  Speaker 3: us about the process then, because it's almost a month
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  Speaker 3: away to their national convention. We have to wait and
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  Speaker 3: see whether anybody else puts up their name.
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  Speaker 2: How will the process unfold from him?
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  Speaker 16: So there is going to be a virtual role call.
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  Speaker 19: There yet to lock in the exact date, but that
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  Speaker 19: should happen around the first week of August. So we
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  Speaker 19: can see these delegates already giving a very clear indicator
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  Speaker 19: that their nominee is likely to be Karmala Harris. Then
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  Speaker 19: we get to the floor in Chicago in around a
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  Speaker 19: month's time. That's going to be fascinating to see who
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  Speaker 19: else is going to want to be a part of this.
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  Speaker 16: I saw Joe Manchin. He was an independent, he was
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  Speaker 16: a Democrat.
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  Speaker 19: An independent is now flirting with the idea of rejoining
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  Speaker 19: the Democrats in order to run in some form of
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  Speaker 19: a campaign. He wants to bring the Democrat Party back
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  Speaker 19: to the center. Unclear at this stage whether that's actually
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  Speaker 19: a going to happen, but if it does happen, what
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  Speaker 19: impact it would have on the race. It seems like
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  Speaker 19: at the moment all of the big delegates are behind
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  Speaker 19: Krmala Harris. I'd point out in terms of donations, and
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  Speaker 19: this was another big reason why Joe Biden had to go.
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  Speaker 19: The money was drying up, and as of today the
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  Speaker 19: biggest day so far in this campaign in terms of
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  Speaker 19: fundraising efforts for Democrats online. So a big switch now
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  Speaker 19: that they appear to be locking in behind Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 19: And that's going to be crucial because we know in
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  Speaker 19: American politics, Chris, how important money is in Actually your
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  Speaker 19: success in winning in November.
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  Speaker 2: Extraordinary times true.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining joining us again and strap yourself in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: strap meselfing indeed at Trudy McIntosh there and our Sky
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  Speaker 3: News team will be all over this in coming days,
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  Speaker 3: weeks and months of course.
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  Speaker 2: But let's now catch up with Barbara Heiniback again.
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  Speaker 3: She was a former press officer in the Carta White House,
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  Speaker 3: was a lifelong Democrats and worked in the Washington system.
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  Speaker 3: She joins us now from Redcliffe in Queensland. Good to
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  Speaker 3: talk to you again, Barbara. We spoke last week about
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  Speaker 3: some of the permutations here, some of the dramas you've
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  Speaker 3: lived through in US politics. What chance do you give
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  Speaker 3: now of Kamala Harris actually sealing that nomination for the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats and even then going on to win the election.
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  Speaker 20: To seal it somewhere between forty nine maybe fifty percent.
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  Speaker 20: But I know that the three wise men have spoken,
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  Speaker 20: or should I say two wise men and one woman,
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  Speaker 20: Nancy Pelos and Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer, and the
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  Speaker 20: Obamas did not put their support behind Kamala right away.
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  Speaker 20: The Clintons came out and they did. And I'm wondering
• 19:08
  Speaker 20: if the Democrats aren't going or these three are not
• 19:12
  Speaker 20: going to do to Kamala what they did to Biden,
• 19:16
  Speaker 20: which is more or less hoist by your own petard.
• 19:19
  Speaker 20: I think the more people hear her with her salad
• 19:23
  Speaker 20: speech and her garbled language, that sooner they're going to
• 19:27
  Speaker 20: realize and understand that she really cannot master the job
• 19:33
  Speaker 20: under any circumstances. And if that happens, then we're going
• 19:38
  Speaker 20: to have to look at not only who she chooses
• 19:41
  Speaker 20: as a vice president, but will she even get to
• 19:44
  Speaker 20: do that, because come the convention, if it becomes an
• 19:48
  Speaker 20: open convention, then all bets are off because right now
• 19:52
  Speaker 20: there's something called a super delegate, and you have about
• 19:57
  Speaker 20: seven hundred of them, and those people were promised to
• 20:01
  Speaker 20: give their first vote to Biden to the president, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 20: if he remains until the end of his term, they're
• 20:09
  Speaker 20: going to have to cast that vote to him unless
• 20:13
  Speaker 20: they change the rules. And I know that behind closed
• 20:16
  Speaker 20: doors there are many who are trying to change those rules.
• 20:20
  Speaker 20: And I don't see that Kamala has a prayer of
• 20:24
  Speaker 20: being elected the next president. The one thing she could do,
• 20:28
  Speaker 20: maybe is to bring in Gavin Newsom. He has not
• 20:33
  Speaker 20: done a good job in California as governor, but he
• 20:36
  Speaker 20: is a household name. But far more important than that,
• 20:40
  Speaker 20: the state of California carries fifty four Electoral College votes exactly.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he came out very quickly and induors too, and
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I read that the same as you. Maybe that's his
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: play to be a vice presidential nominee. That'll be a
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: pretty good ticket by Democrats standards. But Gretchen Whitmer from
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Michigan is another one who's told about a more orthodox
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: choice because she's been a governor. But what about the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: wild card? Tell me about Michelle Obama. Of course, she's
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: never been an elected official, but she's lived for eight
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: years in the White House. She's an accomplished woman. She's
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: published a best selling an attorney, of course, but published
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the best selling biography and the like, and of course
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: her husband had only been in the Senate for three
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: years I think when he became president, and Donald.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Trump had never been an elected official. So is that
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the hail Mary pass from the Democrats.
• 21:36
  Speaker 20: From where I sit right now, Chris, I believe she'd
• 21:40
  Speaker 20: be the toughest candidate for Trump to beat because there
• 21:44
  Speaker 20: are so many Democrats who are anti Trump no matter what,
• 21:48
  Speaker 20: and the Obamas are so loved in America that I
• 21:52
  Speaker 20: think they would even bring out their puppy dogs to
• 21:55
  Speaker 20: try to get them signed up to vote. And as
• 21:58
  Speaker 20: many people as many Democrats, whether they're illegal, legal, or whatever,
• 22:03
  Speaker 20: and I think that would be very interesting.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: It's sure very interesting.
• 22:08
  Speaker 20: She's giving you the toughest of all the names involved
• 22:10
  Speaker 20: in Mark and Shapiro.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: She's given no indication that she will run, but I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: think it's clear as you say that if she did,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: there would be enormous support behind her. We will watch
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: her with great interests. Thanks so much for joining us again, Barbara.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Barbara Hinde back there live from Queensland.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I want to get back to domestic issues. We'll do
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: more on the US situation later in the program, but
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I want to get back to very important domestic issues
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: here because when we look at out our economy, the
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: good news, we've all been marveling at how our low
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: unemployment has maintained itself, and we've also seen healthy jobs
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: growth over recent years. But it turns out that the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: job's growth is mainly happening in the public sector, taxpayer
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: funded jobs, and jobs growth in the private sector that
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: has actually collapsed. Now this news is even worse when
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: you can sectors of the economy, the non market sectors,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: you know, like health and education and the like, account
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: for virtually all of the growth while the market economy
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: has been struggling. Let me bring in economists Leith and
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: onsol and now co founder of macro Business.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Leith. I think this
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: is fascinating.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: There is such important analysis you've pointed out here, because
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: it's not great for us our long term future if
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: all the growth in the economy is coming in taxpayer
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: funded jobs and jobs that don't create wealth. In fact,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: it's going to create a burden for us, isn't it
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: long term?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Chris.
• 23:36
  Speaker 17: Look, we have an artificial jobs market at the moment,
• 23:38
  Speaker 17: so we've obviously got a unemployment rate of four point
• 23:41
  Speaker 17: one percent, and that's great, but that's coming despite the
• 23:43
  Speaker 17: fact that the economy has experienced in a really deep
• 23:46
  Speaker 17: per capita as session. And the latest quarterly report from
• 23:49
  Speaker 17: the ABS show that the market sector, so that's basically
• 23:51
  Speaker 17: a private sector, gained only six thousand jobs over the
• 23:55
  Speaker 17: year to March. That gets a population increase of about
• 23:58
  Speaker 17: six hundred and fifty thousand. While while the market sector
• 24:01
  Speaker 17: did that, the government a line sector added three hundred
• 24:05
  Speaker 17: and sixteen thousand jobs, and of that, two hundred and
• 24:08
  Speaker 17: eight eight thousand of those alone was for the healthcare
• 24:10
  Speaker 17: and social assistance industry, which is basically the relating to
• 24:14
  Speaker 17: the NDIS. So we've got a situation where about the
• 24:16
  Speaker 17: private sector is reflecting the weak economy, but obviously with
• 24:20
  Speaker 17: all our job creations in the government aligne sectors, which
• 24:22
  Speaker 17: obviously relying on taxpayer money, and most of that's coming
• 24:25
  Speaker 17: from the NDIS, which we're spending in about forty billion
• 24:28
  Speaker 17: dollars a year currently, so it's not particularly sustainable.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely unsustainable. The private economy that funds.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: The taxes is getting weaker, yet the jobs relying on
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: taxpayer money are growing, and this focus on the NDIS
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: is fascinating because I've heard this anecdotally from people in business.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: They say they are finding it hard to recruit and
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: maintain staff because they've got easier and more lucrative work being.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Offered through the NDIS. Is this a problem in our
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: jobs market?
• 24:58
  Speaker 17: Yeah, basically is basically sucking up most of the labor
• 25:02
  Speaker 17: across the economy, well certainly all the spare labor. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 17: as I said, you know, it's costing just over forty
• 25:07
  Speaker 17: billion dollars a year currently and according to the Parliamentary
• 25:10
  Speaker 17: Budget offers, it's projected to cost about one hundred billion
• 25:13
  Speaker 17: dollars in ten years. That's one hundred billion dollars a
• 25:15
  Speaker 17: year and that would basically put it on par with
• 25:18
  Speaker 17: the age pensions. So this also creates a longer term
• 25:21
  Speaker 17: problem for the economy because government aligned jobs tend to
• 25:25
  Speaker 17: experience lower productivity growth. So obviously, if we're going to
• 25:28
  Speaker 17: have this big growth in government aligned areas like NDIIS jobs,
• 25:31
  Speaker 17: it's going to reduce Australia's productivity growth. And indeed, Proctivity
• 25:35
  Speaker 17: Commission Chairwoman Daniel Wood last week said that productivity in
• 25:40
  Speaker 17: other sectors is going to have to increase to offset
• 25:43
  Speaker 17: the cost of the ndis on astray as.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Productivity, worrying stuff. Leith will come back to it. Thanks
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: so much for joining us, Slith van Onsol. And there
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: that is worrying news, isn't it when you pick through
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the numbers and see what's really happening. Now there are
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: calls for conversation after all that chaos in the IT
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: world last week or so, after the I want to
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: talk about biological males who identify as female now asked
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: to take part in investigations into women's pain.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I kid you not.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: So much to get through so little time with gematon
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Uini from GT Communications. Here on the desk end over
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: in the West, we've got Sky News Caroline Derusso live.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: From Perth and freshback from the US and.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: That Republican convention, Caroline. It was obvious, of course Joe
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Biden had to go. But on a Sunday afternoon via
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a tweet from his basement, this was bizarre.
• 26:37
  Speaker 16: Oh, it absolutely was. And you know it's funny.
• 26:40
  Speaker 21: I was sitting in Sydney Airport on my way to
• 26:42
  Speaker 21: the US when there was that attempted assassination on Trump
• 26:47
  Speaker 21: and then you know, you wake up Monday morning.
• 26:50
  Speaker 16: But ten days later and Biden is gone. Look it,
• 26:54
  Speaker 16: it's been.
• 26:54
  Speaker 21: Obvious since the debate that well, it's been obvious to
• 26:59
  Speaker 21: some of us who have discussed this on your particular
• 27:02
  Speaker 21: show for a very long time that something has been adrift.
• 27:06
  Speaker 21: But it's only really since the debate that all of
• 27:08
  Speaker 21: a sudden, it seems that was the shot in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 21: for the mainstream media, and off we go.
• 27:13
  Speaker 16: Unsurprising.
• 27:14
  Speaker 21: I mean, they've got their convention third week of August,
• 27:18
  Speaker 21: I think, so there's an awful lot of work for
• 27:20
  Speaker 21: the Dems to do between now and then to sort
• 27:23
  Speaker 21: out whatever position it is that they are going to
• 27:26
  Speaker 21: take to the election in November. This could have all
• 27:30
  Speaker 21: been dealt with much more time had it happened earlier.
• 27:34
  Speaker 21: And unfortunately, when you try and when you try and
• 27:38
  Speaker 21: keep the status quo in place, even when it's totally unsustainable, unfortunately,
• 27:43
  Speaker 21: it's quite the mess to clean up.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got no one to blame but themselves. They
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: should have dealt with all this years ago. I keep
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: saying Gemma talking about Biden's decision to go. Of course
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: he's just withdrawing, it's just not recontesting. And so once
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: he comes out of the basement rejoins the rest.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Of the world. In coming days, we're left with this
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: situation where.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: He's lamed up president, serving through till January, and he's
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: not going to have to work with Kamala, and it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: going to be messy.
• 28:09
  Speaker 12: I mean, there's so much, there's so much to dig
• 28:12
  Speaker 12: into in this set of circumstances. The thing you and
• 28:14
  Speaker 12: I have spoken about countless times on this desk is
• 28:16
  Speaker 12: who's really running this tab That's the thing that terrifies
• 28:19
  Speaker 12: me because it's clearly not Joe Biden. I mean, he
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: more than likely didn't write his own tweet or write
• 28:24
  Speaker 12: his own statement. You know again, I refer to my
• 28:26
  Speaker 12: own father's cognitive decline as a point of comparison. There's
• 28:30
  Speaker 12: no way in hell that man's running the United States.
• 28:33
  Speaker 16: The world cannot afford a weak America.
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: The media establishment who has enabled, protected, and lied about
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: his cognitive state.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: There's that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 12: There's the agency and the machinations, the whole house of
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: cards around Joe Biden that has done the same thing
• 28:50
  Speaker 12: to the American people. It's terrifying. At least in Australia
• 28:54
  Speaker 12: we have a little bit more clarity. I mean, camera
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: is full of their own straw people and their own machinations.
• 28:59
  Speaker 12: But this on a whole other level.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's more accountability, partly through the parliamentary system the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: caucuses and party rooms has course, but there's more accountability
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: because they front up to the media more off And
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: how many media conferences has Joe Biden done in the
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: last six months?
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: And the woman you know, his press secretary, whose role
• 29:19
  Speaker 12: is actually remarkably powerful when you think about it, gets
• 29:22
  Speaker 12: up there and lies on the daily.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, this is the thing that gets me Caroline
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: as well, is just from the media and the political class,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: the lies telling people. It's like the comic Kilale thing.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: They're telling people that America the president's fine, and the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: evidence is there so obvious that he's not. Now, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: want to go on to this crowd strike, the it
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: chaos from last year. Both of you will have insights
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: from your contacts in business. This was absolutely massive right
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: around the world, Caroline, should compensation be forthcoming?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Do you think for businesses?
• 29:54
  Speaker 21: Well, it will depend from country to country, and I'm
• 29:58
  Speaker 21: not sure what they're contracts look like and whether they
• 30:01
  Speaker 21: have standard or obviously custom contracts, depending but you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 21: if for example, here in Australia, and I know they've
• 30:09
  Speaker 21: made a statement already. You know, if something is considered
• 30:13
  Speaker 21: to be a major failure, then there does there is
• 30:16
  Speaker 21: a right to compensation.
• 30:18
  Speaker 16: If it's not a major.
• 30:18
  Speaker 21: Failure, there may be an ability to cease a contract
• 30:22
  Speaker 21: and refund any unused portion. Something like consequential loss is
• 30:27
  Speaker 21: usually something that's excluded out of contracts. So it'll be
• 30:30
  Speaker 21: very interesting to see where it lands depending on the jurisdiction.
• 30:35
  Speaker 21: But I tell you what the first phone call they
• 30:37
  Speaker 21: would have made would be to their insurance.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet I'll tell you what. It shows how
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: vulnerable we are though as well, doesn't it. And hopefully
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: there's going to be some adjustments to the way we
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: do business in future. I've got to get to this
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: other issue because I need to get to your thoughts
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: on this as well. And this is an inquiry in
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Victoria into women's pain and whether the medical system and
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: others are actually dealing effect with women's pain. And what's
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: particularly controversial here, Gemma, is that transgender women are encouraged to.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Make submissions to this. Now this we're talking.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: About period pain, we're talking about childbirth and the after effects,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: all the sorts of pains that are exclusive to women,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: and what women aren't even entitled to their own pain.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Now men who say they are women have to.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Be part of it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 12: Apparently we aren't allout our own pain. And I want
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: to speak somewhat forthrightly if I may, and pardon my language,
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: if not even my language. But you know, unless you've
• 31:35
  Speaker 12: been a sixteen year old girl who's had terrible period pain,
• 31:38
  Speaker 12: can't get out of bed and go to school, or
• 31:40
  Speaker 12: you're halfway through your pe class and you get hit
• 31:43
  Speaker 12: with terrible cramps and all of the associated stuff that
• 31:46
  Speaker 12: goes with that, unless you've been a woman who has
• 31:48
  Speaker 12: been had her nether regions ripped to shreds by natural childbirth,
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: and you know, I spent the next four months sitting
• 31:56
  Speaker 12: on a rubber ring because your lady parts are absolutely
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: blooded and broken. This just offends my very sensibilities as
• 32:04
  Speaker 12: a woman. I never gave birth, but I can tell
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: you what I know what it's like to go to
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: school and worry that you're going to be compromised because
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: you've got your period and it's painful and it's heavy
• 32:12
  Speaker 12: in all of those things. This is the absolute worst
• 32:15
  Speaker 12: of the gender ideology.
• 32:17
  Speaker 16: It is the absolute.
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: Worst and I think every woman in Australia needs to
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: read this and have a good hard think about policies
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: that they vote for and the people that they vote for.
• 32:26
  Speaker 12: It's not saying anything bad about trans women. It's just
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: saying that biological women women have a very specific, biologically
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: focused experience with pain that you can only have if
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: you are born with a uterus.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Look, we are right out of time, Caroline, but just
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: on that set, if ever there was an area where
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: it should be biological women only, surely this is it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 21: Absolutely And look, I can't say it any better than
• 32:56
  Speaker 21: what Jemma has. This here is a really particular and
• 33:00
  Speaker 21: really sensitive issue. And you know, I have no drama
• 33:06
  Speaker 21: with the concept of there being trans women. But really,
• 33:09
  Speaker 21: to be perfectly honest, if we're talking about gendered pain,
• 33:12
  Speaker 21: there's nothing extra that they can offer.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Frankly, exactly exactly.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Caroline and jem I really appreciate it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Got to skewed off to a break.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: We'll be back to the US after this break, talking
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: about Joe Biden's withdrawal from the White House race.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Of course the second term.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Also back here, Poles reveal an outstanding loss of confidence
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: in our political leadership. Let's get back to this massive
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: news from the United States where Joe Biden, in COVID
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: isolation at his beach house, sent out a tweet overnight
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: our time announcing he won't run for re election. He'll
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: just serve out this term till January, and he's endorsing
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him as the candidate
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: for the November election.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Just days ago, Biden said he'd stay and.
• 34:00
  Speaker 15: The only thing age brings a little bit of wisdom,
• 34:02
  Speaker 15: and I think I've demonstrated that I know how to
• 34:05
  Speaker 15: get things done for the country in spite of the
• 34:08
  Speaker 15: fact that to we couldn't get it done. But there's
• 34:10
  Speaker 15: more to do and I'm reluctant.
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: To walk away from that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you got a bit wiser after that. We
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: yet to hear from Joe Biden. He says he'll address
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: the nation later in the week after he recovers from COVID.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: As for the Republican contender, well, former President Donald Trump
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: also responded on social media, saying crooked Joe Biden was
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: not fit to run for president and he had to
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: go at Biden's doctor and the media too, on the
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: grounds they knew he wasn't capable of being president. I
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: caught up with Kristen Tate to get her take on events.
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: That's right, Chris.
• 34:43
  Speaker 18: On social media, Joe Biden announced that he will not
• 34:47
  Speaker 18: be seeking another term.
• 34:48
  Speaker 16: He does plan to finish out his presidency.
• 34:51
  Speaker 18: However, so right now, the million dollar question that everyone's
• 34:55
  Speaker 18: asking is who will replace him? Obviously, Vice President Kamala
• 34:59
  Speaker 18: Harris is the obvious choice. Biden later endorsed her. Interestingly,
• 35:05
  Speaker 18: Obama has not endorsed Harris. Neither has Nancy Pelosi, and
• 35:10
  Speaker 18: other big wigs in the Democrat Party are making it
• 35:12
  Speaker 18: clear they do not want her, including the New York
• 35:15
  Speaker 18: Times editorial board, which is quite influential here. And look,
• 35:19
  Speaker 18: it's obvious why they don't want Kamala. She was a
• 35:21
  Speaker 18: dud in twenty twenty. She was pulling at four percent
• 35:24
  Speaker 18: when she dropped out of the Democrat primaries that year.
• 35:26
  Speaker 18: She didn't even make it to voting day. So who
• 35:29
  Speaker 18: will replace Biden? I have no idea, Chris. Things are
• 35:32
  Speaker 18: happening so fast, but right now people are saying it
• 35:35
  Speaker 18: will probably be Kamala Harris.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll come back to that in a moment, because
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I think people are getting into sort of some sort
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: of certainty too early here.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to play out.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: But first up, let's talk about how the Democrats have
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: left themselves in this position.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: It's been so plain for so long that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden was incapable of running an election campaign, a
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: reelection campaign, and.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Serving another four years.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: But they've been so reluctant to face that reality that
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: they've let themselves in this panicked crisis moment just months
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: out from the election.
• 36:07
  Speaker 18: Yes, well, they thought they could pull off what they
• 36:09
  Speaker 18: did pull off in twenty twenty, which is keeping Biden
• 36:12
  Speaker 18: in a basement, locked away, hidden from voters, but that
• 36:15
  Speaker 18: just was not going to fly this time. So for
• 36:18
  Speaker 18: years the media was insisting to us that Joe Biden
• 36:21
  Speaker 18: was totally with it. Don't believe your lying eyes, believe us.
• 36:24
  Speaker 18: Joe Biden is the sharpest one in the room. And
• 36:27
  Speaker 18: then Biden himself exposed them as liars during the debate,
• 36:31
  Speaker 18: so the media panicked, and all of a sudden they
• 36:34
  Speaker 18: viciously pushed him out. So now he's gone, and the
• 36:37
  Speaker 18: media once again is touting him saying, oh, Joe Biden,
• 36:41
  Speaker 18: what a statesman. He's like George Washington. He stepped away
• 36:44
  Speaker 18: from power willingly. But this is really a story about
• 36:47
  Speaker 18: the media, Chris, and how flagrantly they lie to the
• 36:51
  Speaker 18: American people, and how quick they are to throw people
• 36:54
  Speaker 18: under the bus when they are no longer of use
• 36:56
  Speaker 18: to them, even the President of the United States. And
• 36:59
  Speaker 18: they're on the Democrat side of the aisle.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you spot on, Christian has been shameful the way
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: they've pretended reality way not all media though, of course,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: if you're watching us, they would have known many many
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: years ago and many months ago that Biden was for
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the high jumpiers a little clip.
• 37:16
  Speaker 18: I have totally come around to your view, Chris. You've
• 37:19
  Speaker 18: been saying this for over a year now that he
• 37:21
  Speaker 18: will not be the nominee. But they need to show
• 37:24
  Speaker 18: the Americans a little bit that he's slowing down and
• 37:26
  Speaker 18: declining without really scaring people, showing people just how far
• 37:31
  Speaker 18: gone he is.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been saying it for three years, Kristin. You
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: started joining the chorus again this year. It has been
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: playing if anyone was watching, and I think it's deceptive
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: of the media, the way the game they played to
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: pretend that this guy was all right now. Another aspect
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: here that we've got to talk about, Christian and that
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: is the diversity pick. When Kamala Harris was named as
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: the vice presidential running mate for Joe Biden, it was
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: very clear, in fact, they've been leaked earlier that when
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the Democrats were looking for a woman of color to
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: run as vice presidential was an open diversity pick. This
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: is a woman who didn't even get a vote in
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: the primaries before she pulled out. Now you see the
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: dangers of diversity picks because rather than picking on merit
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: because she's in the box site to actually be president,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: that's right, and she is.
• 38:22
  Speaker 18: So unlikable, she pulls terribly with nearly every voter group.
• 38:27
  Speaker 18: Picking her as vice president was probably one of the
• 38:29
  Speaker 18: worst political decisions in modern US history by Joe Biden.
• 38:35
  Speaker 18: So yeah, now the Democrats are in this position where
• 38:38
  Speaker 18: they've kind of boxed themselves in. However, they are so
• 38:42
  Speaker 18: power hungry and desperate to win Chris. I think that
• 38:45
  Speaker 18: they will happily throw her aside for somebody else who
• 38:47
  Speaker 18: has a greater chance at.
• 38:49
  Speaker 16: Winning, and they can kind of check.
• 38:50
  Speaker 18: Those diversity boxes with a new VP pick. Maybe they'll
• 38:53
  Speaker 18: even keep her in the VP slot.
• 38:55
  Speaker 16: I mean, I doubt it.
• 38:56
  Speaker 18: But the point is they want a winner, and they
• 38:59
  Speaker 18: will be looking very closely at the polls over the
• 39:01
  Speaker 18: next few weeks and they will choose the person that
• 39:04
  Speaker 18: they think has the best chance at aiding Donald Trump.
• 39:07
  Speaker 18: And look, it's all upside for them replacing Biden because
• 39:10
  Speaker 18: everyone who supported Biden at this point will obviously support
• 39:13
  Speaker 18: their replacement. And then maybe they can get some of
• 39:15
  Speaker 18: those independent voters and kind of blue collar Democrats who
• 39:18
  Speaker 18: had turned on Biden after the debate. So it is
• 39:21
  Speaker 18: all upside for them. But trust me, they will not
• 39:23
  Speaker 18: pick a candidate based on intersectionality.
• 39:26
  Speaker 16: They want to win.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very very good point. Let's look at it quickly.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: From the other side. Of course, Trump was starting to
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: look like he was going to be coroinited. He was
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: the standout favorite, especially after the assassination attempt.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: This changes everything for him. We'll see what happens.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: But Donald Trump kind just a coast to victory against
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden.
• 39:47
  Speaker 18: Now absolutely not, and someone like Gavin Newsom could be
• 39:53
  Speaker 18: very dangerous for Donald Trump. Many voters in this country
• 39:57
  Speaker 18: make decisions on who they for based on style over substance.
• 40:01
  Speaker 16: You know, these candidates.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Trump and Biden have had.
• 40:04
  Speaker 18: The same platforms for years now, but you see the
• 40:06
  Speaker 18: polls shifting not because they've changed their platforms, but because
• 40:09
  Speaker 18: of stylistic choices or you know, Joe Biden's mental fitness,
• 40:13
  Speaker 18: or Trump said this, or Biden said that. So if
• 40:15
  Speaker 18: you have this young fresh person enter the arena, like
• 40:20
  Speaker 18: a Gavin Newsom, who's a smooth talker, who's attractive, who
• 40:24
  Speaker 18: you know, can speak like Ronald Reagan frankly, I mean,
• 40:27
  Speaker 18: he did an interview on Fox News with Hannity last
• 40:29
  Speaker 18: year and just left people in awe with the way
• 40:32
  Speaker 18: he speaks. His policies are a disaster. I mean, he's
• 40:34
  Speaker 18: left California a complete disaster. But a lot of voters
• 40:38
  Speaker 18: in this country could be very easily fooled by something
• 40:41
  Speaker 18: like that. And Donald Trump is such a controversial figure,
• 40:44
  Speaker 18: I fear that there are many moderate voters out there
• 40:46
  Speaker 18: who will happily jump out an alternative who's not a
• 40:49
  Speaker 18: vegetable like Joe Biden. So Trump and his base should
• 40:53
  Speaker 18: not be getting too comfortable right now.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: It has been an extraordinary to watch, and it's kind
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: of become even more extraordinary and more volatile.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much, for joining us. Kristen, thank you as always, Chris.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you one man who's been completely obsessed with
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: American politics for a long while. He broke his holidays
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: to come back and join us. Now he's back here
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: full time, back on the job FORU. Murray, Fight Fight.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that now, mate.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Give us your take on Biden's announcement. It had to happen,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: But where to now?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Look?
• 41:26
  Speaker 11: Obviously he was starved of oxygen, he was starved the money,
• 41:28
  Speaker 11: he was starved of all of the normal air support.
• 41:30
  Speaker 11: But how cowardly is it that when in nineteen sixty
• 41:34
  Speaker 11: eight the last person has stepped down, Lyndon Baines Johnson
• 41:37
  Speaker 11: did it on television. Yeah, he's just punched out a
• 41:39
  Speaker 11: statement because he's obsessed with this place in history that
• 41:42
  Speaker 11: he doesn't want a little clip to live forever. Sorry, Joe,
• 41:45
  Speaker 11: that doesn't work like that, right? What I find I
• 41:48
  Speaker 11: think Trump can absolutely beat Harris. If Harris is the
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: same politician who ran for the presidency in twenty twenty,
• 41:55
  Speaker 11: if she's the same one who does the woke word salad.
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: But if somehow she's had some Mira killer something, then
• 42:01
  Speaker 11: and it's all about abortion, abortion, abortion, then this thing
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: is going to be closer than anyone thinks. Interestingly, I
• 42:08
  Speaker 11: think that her vice presidential person needs to be someone
• 42:10
  Speaker 11: who can help her win a state. So an all
• 42:13
  Speaker 11: female ticket with Gretchen Whitner from her state or the
• 42:16
  Speaker 11: bloke who was an astronaut and the husband of a
• 42:18
  Speaker 11: politician who got shot Gabby Giffords. His name is Mark Kelly.
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: I think those are the two.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, women would add something in all female tickets the
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: state of Michigan.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Goad, Look you meant that at that point about the statement.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Look every says, look, he's crook, he's got COVID or whatever.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Well, then he could have waited.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: You could have waited three or four days when he's better,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: then make the announcement. If ever anything needed to be
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: an address to the nation, this had to be.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: You sound like you're right on for Harris.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Surely there's a chance that the Democrats have a good
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: look over the next couple of weeks and come up
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: with maybe some other permutation.
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: If they wanted to win the election, you would try
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: to get RFK back into the Democratic Party. Right, So,
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: currently he's got ten percent of the vote, sitting out
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: as an independent. You would say to him, hey, come
• 42:59
  Speaker 11: in debate, take her on, and then hope that he
• 43:03
  Speaker 11: melds himself back in.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good good employment.
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: Instead, it will boast likely because you start to see
• 43:09
  Speaker 11: the Clinton's and this and that all sort of getting
• 43:12
  Speaker 11: behind it. The problem is, unless anyone actually runs against her,
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: how is it any different than the basement campaign, all
• 43:20
  Speaker 11: the leaking questions against Bernie Sanders.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I think if anyone runs.
• 43:24
  Speaker 11: It'll be sort of a super lefty because those super
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: progressives actually ended up being behind Joe Biden.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: But if she's the one, if she's the one to
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: be the next candidate, he should have resigned out right
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: last week and she should have been made president.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: That would give her a best hope.
• 43:39
  Speaker 11: And also she's going to spend the next few months saying, oh,
• 43:41
  Speaker 11: I just was a good number two. No, no, no, hang on,
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: when eighty million people, eighty million people saw that bloke
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: melt before her eyes in the debate that night, she
• 43:48
  Speaker 11: came out and said, everything is awesome, everything is fine.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I know you're going to have some of that tonight.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Fantastic At nine o'clock, just very quickly, the latest news
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: pile fascinating, but basic story is a still line ball
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: two party preferred, but the elbow Norton really popular.
• 44:03
  Speaker 11: I think the reality is that because there's so much media,
• 44:06
  Speaker 11: so much chats, so much everything, we're just here like
• 44:10
  Speaker 11: ten years worth of conversation about people in two years
• 44:14
  Speaker 11: or three years. What's fascinating here is that you've got
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: a couple of poles that are saying that it's the
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: Libs that are up fifty one to forty nine. Newspole
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: obviously Gold's standard saying it's the other way around. The
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: whole point is these Teals. Now everyone is just assuming
• 44:28
  Speaker 11: the Teals won't move anywhere. If the Teals move, then
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: we are in for one heck of a race.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Look Out, can't wait to see It's at nine o'clock, Murray,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: he's back with Paul.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Fuch.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: We'll get rid of him off the set and have
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: a break in a moment. I'll be back afterwards with
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Sophiel's Worth to talk about media. It's full on Trump
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: derangement syndrome at the ABC. Let's get into media with
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the media. Writer for The Australian, Sophiel's Worth joins us
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: from Melbourne. Lowe every Monday. Good to talk to you, Sophi.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I've been loving your work holding the ABC to account
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: over their bias coverage of US politics. Of course, they've
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: been telling us the last couple of years that Donald
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Trump is the devil in Karna and that Joe Biden's fine,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: he can go around again.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Now now they're having to change their tune.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: But this clip from John Barron, so called, one of
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: their US commentators, talking about the new equation of possibly
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris versus Donald Trump.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Let's have a look at this clip.
• 45:30
  Speaker 22: He wouldn't want to debate her because he might lose,
• 45:33
  Speaker 22: because she's a fifty nine year old who made her
• 45:35
  Speaker 22: career prosecuting sex offenders in California. Donald Trump, let's not
• 45:39
  Speaker 22: forget is a sex offender?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Just extraordinary stuff, isn't Sophie.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Trump wouldn't want a debate Kamala Harris because he'd get
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: beaten and because he's a sex offender.
• 45:54
  Speaker 23: Well, Chris, I must be honest. I'm completely, quite really
• 45:58
  Speaker 23: appalled at some of the bridge the ABC's had in
• 46:01
  Speaker 23: recent days in relation to Donald Trump. It's been nothing
• 46:06
  Speaker 23: short of appalling. They are meant to be fair and balanced.
• 46:11
  Speaker 23: We paid for them, Chris, as you and I know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 23: and they are very much taking aside here. I mean
• 46:17
  Speaker 23: they were scathing of Donald Trump. John barn In particularly,
• 46:22
  Speaker 23: which I wrote about in The Australian, was scathing of
• 46:24
  Speaker 23: Donald Trump speaking last week at the Republican Convention. But
• 46:29
  Speaker 23: you could see the joy in his face and his
• 46:31
  Speaker 23: commentary today when you know, the whole situation has changed
• 46:37
  Speaker 23: with Carmela Harris. So I think this is going to
• 46:40
  Speaker 23: present a serious problem for the ABC in the lead
• 46:43
  Speaker 23: up to the November presidential election.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I've never addressed it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I saw some of the stuff he said about Trump's
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: speech last week. Now, as you know, I'm no great Trumpian,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I'm no great Trump fan. But I saw his one
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: and a half hour speech on Friday and it was mesmerizing.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: It was impressive at times.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: It's drew tears to your eyes when he was talking
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: about the victim the victims of the assassination attempt, and
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: the way Baron the ABC tried to portray it is
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: just divorced from reality.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And this is the trouble.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: There's no sense of the ABC that they actually have
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: to stick to the facts. There's still got their three
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: part series up there saying that Trump was actually installed.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: By Vladimir Putin.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Something's been completely demolished by official inquiries. And they've got
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: another four corners hit job running on Donald Trump.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: They're just obsessed with this stuff and getting it wrong.
• 47:36
  Speaker 23: Well, Chris, this is going to be a long running
• 47:39
  Speaker 23: problem in the months ahead, and I think they need to.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Look at their coverage.
• 47:44
  Speaker 23: Because I was watching TV, reading online, listening to the radio.
• 47:48
  Speaker 23: It is littered with anti Donald Trump content. It's so
• 47:52
  Speaker 23: easy to find. They are picking a side here and
• 47:56
  Speaker 23: they are doing a complete disservice to the Australian taxpayers.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they sure are.
• 48:01
  Speaker 20: Now.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I want to show another case though, of Trump derangement syndrome.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: This is the sort of sick humor.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: We saw in the wake of the assassination attempt, this
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: time on commercial television.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: A Channel ten game show. Have a look.
• 48:13
  Speaker 11: Chaotic scenes at a Donald Trump rally over the weekend.
• 48:16
  Speaker 16: What happened?
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Very poor shot.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Well, I believe they found the shooter Milania on the
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: grassy knobles?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: That Somemmers saying the radical left? But to me, how
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: did they miss? It's a massive orange head.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: It's just extraordinary Sophie, imagine if this was about somebody.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Else, shock increase, disgraceful stuff.
• 48:44
  Speaker 23: Comedian Anne Edmonds should be ashamed of her comments are
• 48:48
  Speaker 23: saying very poor shot and disgraceful by Channel ten. I
• 48:54
  Speaker 23: understand this is pre recorded, so they had ample time
• 48:58
  Speaker 23: to pull this content, and the brains trust in Channel ten.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Seem to think this is okay.
• 49:03
  Speaker 23: And it's only now that the content has been pulled
• 49:07
  Speaker 23: from its streaming platform. But this is absolutely disgraceful content
• 49:11
  Speaker 23: by Channel ten.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely sick as she wouldn't be tolerated with anyone else,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: and they all forget conveniently that a innocent person actually
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: lost their life in that attack.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Their life and that attack.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Sophie, I appreciate it, Sophie. Ellsworthy
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: and radio stuff in the oars. Just very quickly, a
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: couple of bits of feedback from you when you were
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: watching Joe Biden walk up those steps last week.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Everything is part of the strategy.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: He's now in hiding, says one viewer, and Christian says,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: that's the cargo hold. He can't get up the long
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: stairs anymore. Indeed, the President has come to that view
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: himself since that footage was shown.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: He won't be recontesting. That's been the big news today.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I'll be back with more tomorrow night. He is Peter
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Quidlin