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Episode 67-Titus Brown · Johnny's World

• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to a new episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: This is BW.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: I am here with my co-host Johnny.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: How are we doing today, Johnny?
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, BW, doing well today.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: How about yourself?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Man, doing great.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Doing great.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh living the dream.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: That uh didn't didn't turn out too well last week for us, but you know, it's it's like I predicted.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_02: I did I I wasn't expecting us to win.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: It was closer than I thought it would be.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess there's that.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: We can talk more about that in a second, though.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, you you had predicted earlier in our in our preseason projections that that is a loss, and I projected it, projected as a win.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: So you were right all along.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: I changed mine up last week after seeing our pitiful performance against LSU, and and I think I picked the score to be 31 to 13 or something like that.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: It ended up being 30, what was the final 37-30 or something like that?
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot closer than we uh uh anticipated.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: And but a lot of a lot of positives from it.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: I hate to I'm not a big fan of moral victories, but that if that was ever a moral victory, that was one because we needed to show some improvement.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: We did, and Will had the best passing yards of his career at Mississippi State in the game, and and he shut up the haters.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: So that was that's hard to believe that that that was his uh most passing yards in in the history, all those other games he had.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: That was the one in a loss.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: In a loss of all things, yeah.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: You would have thought during the Mike when Mike Leach was the coach and and tutoring him and everything, that it would have been uh one of those games, but uh nope.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh right now, after all the haters were coming after him.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: And and uh, but it just shows what you do when we pass the ball.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we were saying pass the ball and we couldn't couldn't run the ball against him, so he had to go to the pass, and good things happened.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: And Tulu was unbelievable.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a it's a shame that that that ended up being a loss with uh record-breaking performances and just doing so good offensively, and then the defense was the one that shut us down or let us down.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: So can't get everything right together, it seems like, but it feels like once we do get everything right, then we might get a W.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: That is right, that is exactly right.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: So um, I don't have a whole lot else to say about that game.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like you said, it it it's I had to say moral victory, but I do feel like it was a moral victory because I was I was thinking that in the beginning there we weren't gonna really score that many points and it was gonna be pretty rough.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, came away looking like a different team on offense.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: And if we can if we can keep doing that, I mean we'll talk more about the Alabama game, but if we can get through Alabama, uh got a cupcake coming after that, and and hopefully get right and uh get the bye week and you know get ready for this stretch of games that we should be competitive in, have a good chance to win, and get to bowl eligibility.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have a feeling uh that uh I heard this yesterday, you know, the past two weeks, Spencer Rattler at South Carolina and Jane Daniels at LSU both ended up being like player of the week or something like that.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: And where they were able to run and just do everything all over Mississippi State's defense.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so we got Milroy coming into town for Alabama, and I think he's known for a running type quarterback.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: So wouldn't be surprised come uh next Monday that he gets named uh player of the week as well.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: If the trend keeps going as it does, and we can't stop Alabama, which I don't know how we can.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't stopped him the past 15 years, so I don't see how anything's gonna be different on this week.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: But hey, look, we predicted this game to be a loss from the get-go.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so you know, if we if we play competitively and play close, I think that'll be another moral victory.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: But but uh and then we got a like you said, got a cupcake coming up next week that we really need, so that'll be good going into the bye week.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, but I think uh most Mississippi State fans probably had us either at uh at either three and three and one or two and two going into this game and finishing either two and three.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_01: Or uh you know, so so we're kind of where everyone projected us to be, but I don't think many people really thought we'd be playing like we would.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's the scariest part about it, you know, not not playing up to our potential.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: But uh we showed signs of promise last week, so that's uh that's good.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll get through this game, and then there's some must-win games coming up that's gonna determine the season after that bye week with Arkansas and Auburn coming up.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: So uh we'll know a lot a whole lot more about the team uh come those uh those games coming up.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, that's exactly right.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: But but I will have to say this about Alabama.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I heard this and I wanted to mention it too.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: If you notice the trend, we haven't been competitive against Alabama since like you know, that we had that one game in 17 that was down to the wire with and freaking Calvin Ridley stepped out of bounds and and cost the game for us.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: But um other than that, man, and the 14 at Alabama, we were kind of in it uh when we were number one, and that was a tough loss.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: But other than that, we haven't had a close game against Alabama since the Kroom days when we knocked off Alabama twice.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: And and it seems like 15 years ago, that was how it was with LSU.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: We never could beat LSU at all.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: It would always be blowouts and minus this year when we got blown out.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: We played competitively against LSU for the past few years.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: So um someone said, well, it's Nick Saban thing.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: Nick Saban, you know, Nick Saban was at LSU and we're getting blown out, and then he goes to Alabama and get blown out.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if Nick Saban has something against Mississippi State or or what, or we're scared of him or what, but seems like we go into these games knowing we're gonna lose before we even kick off, and by the end of the first quarter, the game's over with.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: So hopefully they got some mindset that can change that because like Leach said last year that that you know you look at the the jerseys and the helmets on the other team, and they're already interested and you go into intimidating her.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, we don't need that to happen.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: Arnett said that that that's not to be the case, but I find that hard to believe.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: I just feel like Alabama has our number, and um, but hopefully we can make it competitive.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, you'll uh we have a good guest coming up after this, uh, that can talk a little bit more about those victories against Alabama.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: So looking forward to hearing some more about that.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um wanted to fill everybody in on the Pick'em League.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: Before after that, we'll talk about our predictions for Bama and then get to our guest.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: But the Pick'em's still going on, and yours truly, uh the eyeballers are in first place.
• 6:53
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• 6:56
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• 7:01
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• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: I will say this week there I may have left some openings.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: I made some picks um that that could be flyers, could be uh, you know, not maybe against the grain picks, so I may not do as well this week.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_02: Or I could just I could turn around and just really widen the gap a little bit.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll have to see about that.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it seems like you're in control of it.
• 7:27
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• 7:28
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• 7:30
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• 7:31
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• 7:34
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• 7:41
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• 7:44
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• 7:47
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• 7:51
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• 8:34
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• 8:40
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• 8:46
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• 8:54
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• 8:58
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• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: But um let's talk a little bit more about this Bama game, uh, make our make some predictions, and then we'll we'll get to our guest.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: So it sounds like um you're not too high on the Bulldogs this weekend.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, Vegas came out.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't checked it in a couple days, but the line was around 14, it looked like.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: And so they were pretty close um on the South Carolina game.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think they had said we were it was six and a half or seven on that one, and so they they seem to know something more than we think because I definitely was not thinking this was going to be a close game at all, but Vegas seems to think it's going to be.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: So, what do you think about that?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what does Vegas know?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: What does Vegas know?
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're they're they're they're wrong, they're wrong on this one.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: Finally, Vegas is wrong.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you, let me tell you why.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: These are the locked picks.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: You want to take these picks of mine right now?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: Go to the sports book of the golden moon, put it down, you'll win some money.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Alabama, I think it's minus 15, is what I saw yesterday.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: It was 14 and a half, it's going up to 15.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Take it right now, take it because it's probably gonna keep going up to the game.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Alabama is not, I mean, there's gonna be a blowout.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to tell you right now.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's been they've been dominating us for years.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Game hadn't even been close.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Matter of fact, we haven't scored a touchdown against Alabama uh since like 2014 until the last play of the game last year in garbage time.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Woody Marks ran one in.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, I don't see how anything's changing on that.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but yeah, I mean, if Bama wins, you know that they're gonna run in a go win it in a route, it's been more than 14 or 15.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Ole Miss LSU game, minus three points for LSU.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I see LSU blowing out Ole Miss.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: Look at what they did in Starbucks against Mississippi State.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: They are LSU is turning it on.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: Ole Miss hasn't played anybody uh really good.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, so I mean, but they did play Alabama close, but um, I just I think LSU is gonna run away with that one.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: So those are two easy lock picks.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: And uh there's not no such thing as easy money at the casino, but gosh, if you're a gambling person, I'd I'd I put some on that.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: But with that being said, he you know, it game's a game, anything can happen.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I just don't see, I mean, why why would we pick Mississippi State?
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: What have they shown us against Alabama in the past 15 years to make us feel confident that we're gonna beat Alabama?
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing at all.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: And the way that we've been playing, I thought it sound like a Debbie Downer on the Bulldogs.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: If I'm not, the haters probably come after me, but like they did about the uh uh cheering for other teams.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm just being honest, being real with it, seeing it like a call it uh I feel like we're gonna struggle.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think Alabama's gonna win in a route.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: And my final score prediction would be Alabama 42, Mississippi State six.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's the same score I picked against LSU, and I think that's gonna happen again.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: What about you?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: Whoo, Johnny, you're on them.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Bringing the heat against the dogs, bringing the heat.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hoping this is a reverse psychology thing that we'll that we'll wake up and and play play close, but I just don't see it.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, uh I feel like this happens every week, every every time we play Bama.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if it's just because I see it because we're playing Bama, and if Saban is really doing this to other teams, but he's he always says stuff like this.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: He keep I keep reading these headlines.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: It says, Saban says Mississippi State is the best team they've played so far.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: Saban has a lot of praise for Mississippi State, and all this stuff Saban is saying, he does that every year.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: Man, yeah, every year it's like, all right, like what is he trying to do here?
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: And and I don't know if he says that about every team that they play, but I feel like every time I see that, I'm like, all right, this this seems like one of his his his I don't know one of his.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Part of me thinks it's a it's a jab at Land Kiffen for Land Kiffon's comments last week about Alabama and everything, and and kind of saying, hey, well, the state's better than all miss, and it's gonna be a tougher game.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Now I think I don't know if that's part of his thing trying to get back at Lane, but I don't think so, because like you just said, he says it every year.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Mississippi State's the toughest team we're gonna play, blah blah blah blah.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: And it's BS.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: He knows it's PS.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: We know it's PS.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: We know they're better than us, they've always been better.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't understand why he says that, but he does, and they end up getting the win and moving on to the next one.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: But one of these days is gonna change.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: One of these days we're gonna slip up and beat them.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I just I don't know when it is, but it's gonna happen one day.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, might be after he's gone.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, do you think he's going into the locker room and saying, guys, this Mississippi State team, they're they were the best team we faced.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all gotta really be worried about him.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I just I don't see him doing that.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: He's going, he's going in the locker room laughing at it, saying, Look at this team, we we should blow them out by 100.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: And then he's going to the media saying this is the toughest game.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I think he's doing.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yep.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: Could be.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm with you on the score.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I do hate to go against Vegas because they usually are right, but I just don't see how it's gonna be close.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I was gonna say pretty pretty similar score to what you were gonna say, but because the Vegas line, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give us a little bit more credit.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna say 42-17.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think we put up a few more points than you're giving us credit for.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: Offense did look a little better last week.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: Bama's defense is not as good as they have been, so I do think we'll score, but I still don't think it's gonna, there's not gonna be any question, you know, after halftime, who's gonna win this game.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's just take the money line on it.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, you you could bet like a hundred bucks and probably win five dollars, but yeah, you know for sure who's gonna win the game.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot pretty much.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: But but yeah, it's it's it's uh it's gonna be uh a hard physical game, that's for sure.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: And if but I'm just scared because we couldn't run the ball against South Carolina and they have a mediocre defense play against Alabama, they don't have the defense like they did back in the uh early 2000 uh 2010s, but they're still a really good defensive team.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: If we can't run the ball against them, it's gonna force us to pass.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I I just don't I don't see us putting up the yards we did the other other day.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: So well, if you can't run, you can't pass, what do you do?
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so um so I don't know, but hopefully they'll surprise us.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: But like I said, we're we both consider this a loss going into it, uh into the season, and uh, and we got that cupcake team next week we can bounce back from if we do lose to Bama, which I think we will.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then after that open date, and then man, after that open date, the real schedule begins.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's where we're gonna tell separate men from the boys.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's how we're gonna know whether we're gonna make it to the bowl game or not, because we got Arkansas, Auburn, a lot of teams that are uh winnable games for us.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say that that we we should uh could go either way, swing games.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, we'll be able to tell a lot in a couple weeks.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Johnny, that's all I got.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, looking forward to hearing the interview with our guests this week.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you got anything else before we get to our guests?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh just out there listening.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, I said this to BW before.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: We got we got some listeners last week, but nothing like it does when we have guests.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I feel like me and BW do a good job.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about that last week, but whenever we get a guest, we get a lot of downloads.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: So, guys, we got a guest on.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's coming up right now.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: So do not turn this podcast off.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Listen to the guest.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: And this guest is awesome.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: He's a bulldog legend, and he we got him on.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know why?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because he beat the University of Alabama, and he's from the Tuscaloosa area, makes it makes it even sweeter.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: So uh relive the Bulldog memories of our times of where we actually beat Alabama with this great guest of ours and and listen to what he's got going on in his life right now.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I think y'all really can enjoy it.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's Johnny here.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Got a got a great Bulldog guest lined up today, and I'm gonna bring him on to the show.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's uh uh he's a Mississippi State uh Bulldog legend.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Played uh here at Mississippi State 05-06-07 under Sylvester Kroom and was on the last team to beat Alabama.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: So Titus Brown, welcome to Johnny's world.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Really appreciate it.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Man, how you doing, man?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Glad to be here.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Man, I'm doing great, doing great.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I was talking to someone, I was like, man, I gotta get Titus on.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this is the week, you know.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: We play in Alabama.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: You're you've done it, you've beaten Alabama.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's been a long time since we've done it, but but you did it.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh just want to get you on to talk a little bit about your your success at Mississippi State, and then we'll talk about what you're doing now.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess just being uh being a kid from Tuscaloosa, how'd you end up in Starville?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, uh long story but short story.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um started out wanting to go to Alabama, um had um had an opportunity to go out and visit with those guys.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Coach Shula had me out there um during some recruiting visits and things like that.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: But uh when it came down to pulling the trigger on giving me a scholarship, it never happened.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: So uh Coach Kroom kind of slid in there under the cracks and crevices and came to my house and pretty much told uh my parents that, hey, this is a kid that we can um see being a uh a good player for us with some with some development.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he believed that I was gonna be uh he believed that I was gonna get a little bit bigger, uh, a little bit stronger, a little bit faster.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so that that that is exactly what happened, and it turned out to be a pretty good deal.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: He sure did because uh man, you you were uh uh a strong force to be reckoned with on that defense at Mississippi State with in those years.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what was it like playing?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I know Coach everybody loves uh Coach Creom as a person.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: What was it like playing under as a coach?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Seems like a father figure type.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh one of the things, one of the I'm glad you said something about the father fit father figure thing, because um one of the key reasons what got me to stay is when he uh for my official or for our visit together, he came and uh visited with my parents and I.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: And he sat down and told my dad, he was like, Hey, for the next four years, this is gonna be my son.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I know this is your son, biological son, but for the next four years, I'm gonna treat him like my own.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what he did.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: He groomed us, um, groomed us to being good young men, other than just good football players.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: So that was a plus for us going and being able to get some toolish from a guy like Coach Krohn.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: I hear it all the time about you know, you prepare your players on the field, but you also prepare them after football.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: And and uh with your success today, I know that that that paid off.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, well, let's size.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: We got Alabama coming up this week.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I wanted you to get on this week.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let's let's go down memory lane if you don't mind a little bit.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: You you uh you beat Bama 06 and 07 on those teams.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: Talk a little bit about those games.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: First of all, let's talk about 06 going into Tuscaloosa.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think about that game?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that 06 game was very special because we were still being doubted as a football team.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, when you coming in like Coach Chrome, he took over a world of trouble.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think we had one maybe two games before he got there.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um trying to pretty much get his plan across and uh his style of play across and just getting his whole system down.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: It really took some time, took some buying into.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he he explained to us it wasn't gonna be easy, it wasn't gonna be an overnight thing.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: It was gonna be something that we had to work at, and pretty much just just buying in, man, getting a guy that coming from the NFL and college and having all that experience, um, just giving him time to pretty much get his system in place and getting the right guys to iron the things out that it needed to be ironed out.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: And uh with me being the captain of the of that team and part of his first class, I think everything took that four-year turn to actually uh well, actually we did it in three, but really that fourth year, we we made a real, real big impact.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: And then you so you beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa, and then you come back the next year, and the game's played in Starbucks.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: And uh talk a little bit about that game.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the memory I have from that game is obviously that that pick, you know, uh all the way back to the end zone from one end zone to the other.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: And that that was literally, we've had you know we've had some big games in Mississippi State since then, but that was probably the loudest I've heard that stadium.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh me too, man.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Me too.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was the moment.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: So talk about that game, 07 game.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, basically, uh like I said, uh you know, no, that 06 year we were pretty much being doubted.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we came, we we beat uh Mike Shuler that year.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: The second year, they was kind of like saying, hey, we wonder if it was a fluke gear, you know, anybody can kind of come up and win or whatever.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: And we pretty much came out and we did the same exact thing again.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where we really got our notoriety and respect because not only did we beat Alabama, we beat Nick Saban in Alabama, you know, and uh my hat saw the coach Saban, it was his first year there.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And uh as you can see now that he's created some uh somewhat of a dynasty in Alabama and uh having lost that many games.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: And for us to have that notch under our belt is one of the only losses that he had to Mississippi State in 15, 16 years, that has to say a lot about it right there.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: It sure does.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I mean.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: all go down as as as legends for doing that.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that was a special moment, especially uh beating Alabama, being from Tuscaloosa.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: I know that I know you that was so extra special, I guess you could say.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: Winning that game.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Well you know, I I I was talking to someone today and it seemed like um the way we're when Mississippi State plays Alabama in the past 10 years or so it's hard to believe that it's been so long since we've beaten Alabama.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: We've we've gotten close in 17 and and 14 when we were number one that was a close game but most of the games have been just straight up blowouts.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then if you go back about 15 20 years when we would play LSU those games would be blowouts.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: But then minus this year against LSU we've been playing LSU competitively every year it seems like we're neck and neck.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: And back then we were playing Alabama neck and neck and it seems like it swapped.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's like now we get blown out by Alabama.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the only thing I can think of is Nick Saban.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know Nick Saban was at LSU those years and I'm at Alabama.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what he has against Mississippi State, but you know they they said that Coach Leach said last year and I heard a in an interview um they asked Arnette this year said that Leach told his players that he seems like you know it could be the jerseys or the helmets you just you automatically in your mind up Alabama next day but we're we've lost and and the moment you think that you're going to lose the game you you got to go in with a mindset of hey we can shock the world we can do this and is that kind of what y'all have what y'all went through that year in 06 and 07 I'm glad you say that I I had an interview earlier and the um the guy asked the same question about Alabama.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta you gotta look at about when you say Alabama a lot of people used to put the Alabama on the front of it like how Ohio State had their run they used to say the whole Ohio state yes um when you got all that tradition and wins and uh just excellence that comes behind your program and you know being a new kid on campus and not not knowing the the the rivalry and where it all starts from it can kind of be intimidating.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: Alabama's a top tier school uh top tier coaches has been that way for a long time Mississippi State has not been like that.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: So where you're where you're the first to do something it's always scary.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's always a little bit intimidating but with coach what what the the edge we had was coach Kroom coaching over there and playing over there.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: So he pretty much gave us the identity of Alabama saying hey this is how they think this is how they think of you and if you don't come with it you're gonna get embarrassed.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think they're much better than you I don't think they prepared much better than you and the way we're gonna beat them is not by being the best players not by being faster but we're gonna out hit them and we're gonna out tough and that's what we went in we went in the game uh we went on the field knowing that we were we were tougher you know um we knew that going in we we knew we were tougher we knew they were more talented they were more talented skill team but we had the toughness we just had the the the sheer will to win and I feel like we did that we played that way for 60 minutes four quarters balls to the wall never let up on them never gave them hope that they could win that they could beat us and we we didn't we didn't have anything to lose you know what I'm saying they had more to lose than we did and once we came out saying hey guys they already don't respect us might as well go out and try to get some respect gain some respect and I think that's exactly what we did we went out and we hit them in the mouth from start to finish uh they tried to run a little trick play with us the little uh boot boot play action pass with us in the end zone that cost them pretty much the game uh because that was a turning point the Ant Johnson 102 103 yard return that was a turning point in that game because if they go down there to score you never know how that game turns out right that's right and and thinking back in that 06 game I can remember as a big pivotal moment of the game right before halftime John Parker Wilson at the goal line that turned the game around right there y'all's defense stopping right there.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: If he gets in there you know what happens but that going into locker with a momentum huge stop and uh I think it's that was our second string line on the field that time we were so gassed we were so blowed and coach has swapped our D line out and our second string D line has stuffed him once I saw that I was like yeah we're gonna win this game absolutely absolutely yeah so I mean it's just it's it's kind of it's it's frustrating in a way that we hadn't won in so long but I feel like it can happen.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: It can happen one of these days I don't know if it'll happen this weekend I don't I'm not expecting it but hey the world's not expecting it so you got to go in like you just said shock the world mentality you have nothing to lose everybody's picking against you have that mentality go in and see what happens but yeah can't get beat by the name absolutely absolutely well what what are you what are your thoughts on the dogs you know I I feel like I had us going eight four at the beginning of the year and gosh I I don't know what to think it's not really hadn't played out exactly what I thought it was going to play out but um I don't know if we're missing the air raid obviously coach leach not being there what are your thoughts have you been watching any Mississippi State we always been a I don't want to call it tricky we always been an unpredictable team right the games that you think we're gonna lose we go out and win the games you think we're gonna win we go out and lose you know what I'm saying so we could beat those big big five star teams and go down and lose to a one star team you know what I'm saying like the like the year we lost the University of Maine never knew Maine had a football team never knew no one of the guys on the team but we got beat by them because we was just out there just lax and you know twiddling our fingers and thumbs and things of that nature and then we come out of beat Florida a couple weeks later you know what I'm saying Mississippi State football right there you said you nailed it right there you know never know and that's kind of makes it interesting man I'll tell you it's boring being an Alabama fan you win every single game you know at least you know we're mixing it up you never know what's gonna happen but you never know what's gonna happen but I I feel like we got a good quarterback um yeah he's a good leader I feel like he has room to grow and rules to improve as long as they rattle rally around that quarterback and get a solid run game and play good they um Mississippi State always played well on defense we always been a yeah defensively sound football team but we really I'm not to take anything away from our quarterback we really never truly had that solid passer you know what I'm saying right and I feel like they got a good passer um in in the young quarterback that they have now I feel like they rally around him get a good solid run game going don't try to be too cute go out of him in the mouth and and and you can look up at the scoreboard at the end of the game and it should be pretty close.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah I agree I agree the I think the big thing also is to stop I saw I read today where Spencer Rattler from South Carolina and then Jaden Daniels from LSU the past two weeks quarterbacks have been like player of the week in the SEC and you got Milroy coming in Alabama's quarterback who can run the scramble and get loose like that and our defense hopefully can just stop him from destroying us like like the other two quarterbacks have and and then like what you just said I think we can hopefully keep it a game if we do that.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: But um yeah keep it a game man we always come out on top absolutely but the good thing about it is if we do drop it we got a we got a cupcake team next week thank goodness we'll need that and then you got the bye week after that and then that's when and then after that you know that's when we got all those that Arkansas AM Auburn all those teams that you know they're they're kind of uh twin games you know you never know going in and uh you're not expecting either way so uh I think that's gonna tell the season after and that's a good thing you get you get an easier team Alabama and then get that bye week and get everybody refreshed.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: So uh hopefully hopefully uh we'll come out of it and and uh keep that bowl streak going uh going because I know uh when y'all went y'all went to that Liberty bowl in 07 after being not being able to say hadn't been to a bowl game in a long time I know that was long time.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah getting to those bowl games and it's hard to believe we've been on this bowl streak for all these years so we got to keep that going.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: Gotta keep that going.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: But uh but I want to switch over and uh and I want you to talk about about what you're doing now i i'm I ate at your restaurant not too long ago and I'd heard so much stuff about it and went in there it was fantastic.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Hate I miss seeing you there but I'll definitely be back.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: Tell all the listeners out there what you got going on in Tuscaloosa.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well uh I have a restaurant which is called Flavor Seafood and Soul Food.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: We're located in University Mall Food Court.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: The address is 1701 MacFarlane Boulevard East Suite 182.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: We swear we sell everything from fried catfish pork chopped neck bones uh macaroni cheese greens peas like all your savory southern food and we also have wings and burgers and fillies pretty much anything southern anything over the uh like bar food and it's very good very save savory really don't need to add any salt and pepper or anything like that just come in grab a fork sit down and eat yeah and man y'all out there listening got to go check it out i i'd heard about it and I and uh it's my new new uh stock I go to uh Birmingham to the doctor uh uh at at UAB and I'll um Linda Starv will say I go through Tuscaloosa all the time going over there and that's gonna be my new spot after I went last summer tried it out it's like man this I can't wait to get back to go up go back in there and and uh how'd you how'd you get into the restaurant business?
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well um my fiance uh she loves to cook and you know I'm a team player so you know I got the football background so I'm the type of person is you know we're gonna we're gonna pretty much try to go with your strengths.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: So if you like to cook hey we're gonna open up a restaurant you know what I'm saying so that's pretty much how that went she she was cooking in her apartment and I decided to scale it and put her in the building and um it's been hit history fromever since um this is our second location since 2019 we started off on the west the west side of town now we're in the mall now we added a food truck to uh to accommodate the restaurant and now we're probably will be looking for a second location might be Starkville you never know that would be awesome Titus that would be I know y'all get some business if y'all do that uh but yeah it's uh it's awesome I I uh I commend you all y'all did such a great job there and uh I know all I bet that's busy when y'all got Alabama game yeah I bet y'all do really well in there absolutely I just I just can't tell them I I did what I did you know what I'm saying exactly hey uh when we're near when you're in the what they say when you're in Rome you gotta do what the Romans do so we know we know yes sir yes sir that's right well uh well I don't have anything else you got any projections on the game I like I just think I I I'm expecting a blowout but you know like what we've been talking about if you go into it do what you said you you never can tell so the thing about football man is it depends on who's hot who has a good night who had a good night's sleep who ate good uh who prepared well if the wide receiver is catching everything not dropping nothing if the running back's running well that he's taking care of the ball the quarterback's going through all his progression and his reads hey man defense hole up we should have a good day I hope so hope you're right uh well Titus if you're ever in Star Well let me know I'd love to see you and and I'll definitely be stopping back by uh getting me some of that food next time I'm I'm in Tuscaloosa so yes sir I appreciate your time John thank you yes sir your dogs all right all right bro