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From 0 to A Million | FT K’la Inman | EP48 · Jess Ask

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  Hey, it's your girl, Jess. You've just entered a safe space for
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  Kingdom entrepreneurs and creatives to decompress, have fun, and yeah, you've guessed
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  it a safe place to just ask before we get into it. Be sure
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  and questions so we can keep the conversation going. Now, let's get into
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  this week's episode, Friss Records tell me so, but I've been liking it
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  though, like I've been liking it, and so it just we just ended
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  up going into good conversation like we've been the fact. Where did you get
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  these lasts from'nn? Go ahead, XU. So I got these literally a
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  couple of days ago in Detroit. I got my makeup done by girl named
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  Heidi, and she has the coolest place, Like you don't just go get
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  your makeup done. It's a boutique, so there's like clothing in there.
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  She has a full line of makeup. But you know, some people come
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  up with makeup lines and they got like libloss and like maybe eyeliner, baby
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  has serum and face wash and like literally anything you can buy from sfore she
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  has, so I thought it was really cool. And then she had these
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  glasses too, and I felt like they're perfectly extra for me, so I
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  put them on today. Yep, you do extra, will You Know what's
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  so funny is I always cared so much about what people thought about me.
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  I was very much like not stepping outside the box, even though I like
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  my essence is outside of the box, but I would keep myself in because
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  I care what people thought. And then one day I just I just stopped
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  caring. Like I really think my husband had a lot to do with it,
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  because he gives no f about what anybody think. By God, today,
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  before we get to to because listen, listen. Hello there, Yea,
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  we're good, Daisy, We're good. Oh my goodness, we are
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  in the building. Welcome to Just Ask, the podcast where we create a
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  safe space for influencers to decompress, have fun and guess what Just Ask.
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  It's your girl, Justice Smith, and I'm super excited today. Baby,
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  I'm a little nervous, Like I'm probably just as nervous as I was when
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  I interviewed Tails Auntie Tail. I'm just as nervous, y'all, that's a
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  ray. First of all, we gotta acknowledge the Woman of God. Are
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  right, hey, y'all? Are hey? Does alright? And I was
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  alright and I was all right, say hey to the people, Hello,
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  can't see you again? Yeah again another week? Can't see you? But
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  she she backing there in the building. She tried not to have a mic
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  today, but you know we went ahead and cut that in the bullet.
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  Y'all know, y'all, like he In does a ray voice, but y'all
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  another voice that we have on the platform today, just as the podcast Woman
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  of guid first of all, first and foremost the goat in this model industry.
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  I'm gonna just say, hands down, Birmingham's finest wife, mother of
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  four beautiful children. I mean, she got the game all lot right now,
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  Like this is none other than the Kayla and men, Yes, y'all
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  might know her as Kayla the model Maker. Everybody, that's what everybody college.
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  She's gonna change your name to thee Maker. Welcome to the platform,
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  Sys, I'm super excited to have you, happy to be here. I'm
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  proud of you. Thank you. Don't do that because we have tissues.
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  We do. So I am a baby. I am too. So you
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  know, yesterday I was thinking I owe my church like probably a palette of
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  tissue boxes. I'm gonna do it, like I'm gonna just roll up because
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  I I the bunchet is broken because of me, Like I it's me,
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  Like I just know what You're a souler, So I think you're paying for
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  there. I probably contributed to the tissue I did. Oh my gosh,
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  Like I am super excited to have you, Like I am shaking right now
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  because like you are so amazing and before we get into it, like I
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  personally want to say thank you because no, like you don't even know.
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  I've been following you a minimum of I know, a minimum four years wow,
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  and I met you before you it was like the transition to the blow
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  up, like people were starting to figure out who you were in the city,
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  the city being Birmingham, Alabama, and like I was like this this
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  lady here, she got faith on crack like it is my faith is not
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  drugs for sure, And I was like so amazed at your story and just
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  at how you was just as people would say, grinding, but my new
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  work or is faith in it out? And it's just like you couldn't be
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  told no, Like when I met you on social media, like as far
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  as me watching you because you didn't who I was. But when I met
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  you, when I saw you, all I could see was your faith.
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  Wow, Like literally all I could see was your faith. And you really
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  inspired me to even test the waters on something that I never thought I would
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  be doing. Like just watching your story, watching how you just really defeated
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  all eyes you like had children. Yeah, so it gave me, no,
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  it gave me a position of you don't have any excuses. You have
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  no excuse. The girl like literally grinding away from zero dollars to you're a
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  whole millionaire, a whole millionaire in the streets. How you feeling, kaylab
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  Like, how you doing baby? I am doing pretty well. I'm super
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  busy, and I've been telling God like I know that this is what I
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  asked for. I'm not complaining. But it's been like I've been traveling.
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  I've been on so many planes I can't even count. I got off I
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  had a layover in Orlando. But when I got off the plane, I
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  legitimately, I'm not even kidding, couldn't tell you where I was or why.
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  For about ten minutes, I'm like, I don't know what airport this
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  is. The all start to look alike. I think this is a la.
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  I'm like, where am I and why I had to figure it out.
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  I've been I've been flying that much and I've been that busy. But
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  I'm super grateful and I can never complain because this is what I asked for.
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  This is what you asked for. You're living in it, and it
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  seems like from outside looking in that you're living well, Like we we're gonna
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  we're gonna get into this, so I'm trying to ease it before we start
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  to tears. I really feel like I'm gonna end up quarantine because like inspiration
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  should be your middle name, Kayla Inspiration, the model maker, or maybe
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  the last name Kayla the model maker, Inspiration. I don't know. We're
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  gonna figure it. We're gonna figure out that a Ka d inspiration. So
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  you said that you you just got all the planes. You've been doing a
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  lot of planes. Action like how do you travel? Like are you traveling
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  by yourself? Do you have a whole team? Like are you doing because
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  what if people don't know that you don't consider your business like an agency yet,
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  do you know? So I basically connect parents and their kids to the
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  agencies. So when they are interested in their kids getting started and acting and
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  modeling, they come to me because a lot of times they don't know how
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  to start. There's a lot of scams out there, there's a lot of
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  misinformation. So I'm basically like the bridge. Yeah, I love that you
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  plug. I call myself the plug. I feel like everyone doesn't know what
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  that means. I used to have it on my Instagram page, but I
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  feel like that's more of an urban thing. I'm trying to reach everybody.
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  It's it's like what she means, she's a plug. Yes, I am
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  absolutely the plug. You said it properly, like, yeah, anybody else
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  will watch this, but most of my people probably a urban Yeah, the
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  plug for my for my wonderful friends, they the plug is the bridge.
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  Like she just said, so, the connected, the person that figures out
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  Okay, I know this person, this person be great for this. And
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  what people don't realize is the plug makes a lot of money. She came
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  right out and said it. I mean, I feel like people pay for
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  the fast track because you know you have you're always going to have those people
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  on the internet talking about well I could google that, well, baby,
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  google it, because I was googling and getting scam left and right. So
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  I take all the real information and package it together, and you know,
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  they can either do like my course, or we'll have a package where I
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  can do it for them. But yeah, people are willing to pay for
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  that information to fast track their success, and I have to go through some
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  of the stuff that I went through. Also doesn't make it easier because you
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  you not only do you have your consumer base, but you have you're trusted
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  with different brands, right, so you kind of like, yeah, so
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  I have people, you know that come to me to learn how and then
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  there's a lot of word of mouth, and then I do have some brands
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  that come to me also looking for talent. I'm not necessarily an agency,
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  but I do some casting. So like right now, actually I'm doing a
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  casting for Milano, the brand, because they're looking for kids. You know.
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  Other people come to me and say, like, I know that you
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  are in the business and you have talents, so who do you have for
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  this project. It's not the main thing that I do, but it's something
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  that I've gone into so I was I was rewinding your story a little bit,
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  and I was like, man, how do you even think of starting
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  a business to be in a connector like these? Can you Can you show
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  it with the people that don't know? Yeah, for sure. I'm trying
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  to figure out how far back I go. But I always wanted to act
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  a model, like it was my dream. I feel like I was probably
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  posing for my ultrasound picture, like if you go back the feet, I
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  probably was posing as an egg because I would be in the mirror, like
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  acting out whole scenes and nobody really knew. I'd literally be acting out whole
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  scenes in the mirror. I would have like these whole scenarios. I like,
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  if you look at any pictures of me and my siblings as kids,
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  I was doing the absolute most. Like everyone else was standing there smiling,
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  and I'd be like this, Yeah, we're gonna have to like, can
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  you splice it in. I'm gonna send you a picture I'm doing this and
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  no one else says, so you know. I would sometimes talk about the
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  fact that I want to act a model, but I just didn't really have
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  a whole lot of support in my house, Like my mom would be like
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  well, I really just don't know how to do that, you know.
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  So when I got out on my own and I got married, I started
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  trying to figure it out myself. I was like, I'm gonna I can
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  open a magazine and see that there's people in a magazine. I can look
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  at a billboard and see that there's people on billboards. I can turn on
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  my TV and there's people there, and they got there somehow. That's just
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  always the way that I thought. So if they got there somehow, then
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  I can get there somehow. So I would do all those hotel auditions where
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  you hear people saying, like, you know, is your kid want to
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  be an actor model, Come on down to the Sheridan And I get to
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  Sheridan and they want a million dollars. So I got you know, I
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  got got a lot, and I figured out by trial and error what the
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  real way was to get started. And then in twenty eighteen, my oldest
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  daughter was in the movie Black Panther. And you know, it's funny because
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  she was an extra. She wasn't in a speaking role. She was featured
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  where she was like in the scene with Black Panther. She was the one
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  shoveling dir over him. So it was really cool. But like in Atlanta,
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  two hours away, nobody would have Carrid. Matter of fact, I
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  was trying to keep this information from them because in Birmingham, like the city
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  went crazy. Like she met the mayor, he gave her this letter,
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  presented her with the letter. Like we were on every single news station,
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  WBrC, WVTM, they were interviewed, they were calling her school for interviews.
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  She was in the newspaper. And I'm like, y'all, like,
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  this is not that deep, but it was that deep because Birmingham didn't know
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  how to do it. Yeah, And I said to myself, wow,
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  like we're getting all this attention, and I am dead broke. We were
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  living in a house that was smaller than this room that we're sitting in.
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  We had four kids at the time. You know, they were eating oatmeal
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  for almost breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And nobody knew this because we
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  had all this attention on us, and they're thinking, black pants, Oh
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  you got paid a million dollars. No, ma'am, it was like three
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  hundred. We barely had guess to get to the new station. So I
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  wanted to interview us, and I'm like, Okay, I have all this
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  attention, what can I do to maximize it? Why is this so deep
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  to them? It's because they had the lack of knowledge. So I said,
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  I can start teaching them. And honestly, it was an idea that
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  had years previous, because I had done a couple of things in the industry
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  and people had asked me what to do. But I was scared because I
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  felt like people would say, well, why is she teaching that she doesn't
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  know enough. I've done such and such, because I had actors and models
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  on my page that had been in big magazines and had done this and that,
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  and I hadn't really done as much as they had done. But I
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  knew I had something to give. I knew that these people were tripping that
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  she was in black Panther because they didn't know how to do it, and
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  I did, so I let fear hold me back for years. I probably
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  had that idea in twenty fourteen. As a matter of fact, I had
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  a memory pop up where I had been like testing the waters and I was
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  like, would y'all want to know how to get started? Right? But
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  I never did it. I had that idea back in twenty fourteen and that
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  came up as a memory. I never did it. So in twenty eighteen,
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  when all this buzz was going on, I had seen this video.
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  I don't know if y'all ever seen it, but everybody has to watch it
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  in life. It's by Steve Harvey and he's talking to his audience after a
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  filming and he's talking about jumping. If you type in Steve Harvey, jump,
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  have you seen that before? Changed my life? I was like,
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  I got goosebumps. I'm like, like, what am I waiting for?
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  Is what's wrong with someone talking about me? Like, even if they do,
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  like, is it gonna change something in my life? Is it gonna
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  turn my lights off or on? Like, it's not gonna do anything.
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  So I'm like, they can talk if they want to, but I'm gonna
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  I'm just gonna jump. I'm gonna I'm gonna post this and just see if
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  anybody signs up. I was sitting on my living room floor in the tiny
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  house. My husband was working nights, so he was in the back sleeping
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  because he was getting ready to go to work, and I stayed up that
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  night sitting on the floor, had my phone in my hand. I was
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  like, I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna jump. So I
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  went on Instagram. You know how you can write on your stories and like
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  save it to your camera. It's very ghetto ad. It is a picture
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  of my daughter in black panther, and it's like, I can teach you
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  how to act a model for thirty five dollars. I saved it posted on
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  Facebook. It's like eight o'clock that night. To my surprise, two people
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  signed up almost within an hour. And for me, like people don't understand,
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  like it was thirty five dollars, yes, but that seventy dollars changed
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  my life. I wouldn't be sitting here if it wasn't for that seventy dollars
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  because it told me that something I had just been thinking about, if I
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  executed it, it could become something like that was revolutionary for me, Like
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  it literally changed everything for me. Just that night. I was like,
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  wait a minute, so I thought about it, but if I do it,
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  it can be And it came from my brain. Do you understand what
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  I'm saying? That's right? No woman, God came no, no,
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  no, no, no run that by run it, she said, because
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  she thought about, thought about it, she could do it. That was
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  the seventy dollars miracle. Whoa yea girl. It still gives me chills to
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  to stay because when I tell you I'm you know we'll get into that.
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  Money does not change everything, and you know there's still life issues. But
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  I'm living a life that I built because I had the faith to step out.
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  If I hadn't done it that night, if I had not made that
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  post that night, I wouldn't be sitting here. I wouldn't have driven up
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  in one hundred thousand dollars car. I wouldn't have another one hundred thousand dollars
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  car sent in my driveway. My kids wouldn't be going to the school system
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  they're going to. We wouldn't be living in the house that we're living in.
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  Like, all of that started because I had the courage that one night,
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  that one minute to say I'm gonna go ahead and post this. And
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  it wasn't that it blew up quickly. It wasn't that it had to become
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  what it was going to become that night. It was that God was allowing
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  me to see that this can be, something is possible, that this can
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  work, that this is possible that the door was opened. Literally like I
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  had the thought and I acted on it and then boom. So from there
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  I did my first two meetings. I remember my husband got up for work
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  and I was like, I because I was always doing something like it was,
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  I was, I've never been one to just like, I'm gonna find
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  a way to make on. So I told him, I said, I
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  started this thing and we made seventy dollars. And he was like, you
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  made seventy dollars because you got to remember he was working night shift at the
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  airport. He was making ten dollars an hour, so for him to get
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  up go to work at night, out of the house, barely had gas
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  driving and broke down car. It's cold nighttime. He was gonna make about
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  seventy bucks after taxis wow, first seven out for eight hour shift, she's
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  gonna make about seventy bucks. No hold on, you're putting too much,
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  respectable, Like, I hope y'all hear her and seeing her right now because
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  I'm trying to we could I need them to catch some of these juice that
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  you give it. Like she said, I told my hoosband that I made
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  seventy dollars and probably with your class, probably like an hour not out to
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  I hadn't even done the little meeting yet, but yeah, I made seventy
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  dollars that night just by selling. Yet no, because I was meeting them
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  in person back then for thirty five dollars, they get an in person meeting.
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  And he asked me, He's like, well, how are you going
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  to do that? And I was like, I don't know. I guess
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  I'll just meet him at the library. And he just looked at me and
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  he was like, okay, because for us that was money, Like that
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  was a lot of money for us. We were going straight to the grocery
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  store with seventy bucks. So he's like okay, and he went to work
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  that night, and you know, the next day, I met the two
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  people at the library, at the Homewood Library, and I had, you
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  know, written down everything I knew, and I fumbled through it, like,
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  hey, follow this page, do this, do that. And within
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  a week, maybe one of my first clients, her name is Hannah her
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  Son, booked for Oshkosh blah Gosh off of the information that I gave her.
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  When I tell y'all, I was running through the house screaming and he's
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  like, what the heck is y'all with you? I'm like, it worked,
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  It worked. It's not that I didn't believe the information was good.
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  It was just that like, oh God, like I made the money,
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  I taught someone and it produced results for them. Like from then it was
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  over with because God, like literally you you faith it out so much that
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  God was able to prove your identity to you. Like that's literally what I'm
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  here like and the reason why I can feel you on it because it literally
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  just happened to be like with the whole table, the brown situation, Like
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  I was like I didn't even have a word for what I was doing right,
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  and so you don't know, you don't really understand it until you're not
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  in that space where you got to take a legal faith yep. Like so
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  so even now, like it's still expanding and expanding and expanding, and it's
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  like it you mean to tell me it all started for me being brave for
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  five minutes to make a post girl like this is this is where we get
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  like I'm working with me Amyah Davis because I was this this brave Tasha Cobbs
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  as a client, because I made a post like what, like you texted
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  these folks for real? Literally every time she texted me at Woman of All.
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  As a matter of fact, she literally text me from backstage, sending
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  me pictures of her son. And she had sang the night before, so
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  I was like, oh my gosh, I saw you last night, like
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  are you still here? And she's like, yeah, I'm backstage about to
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  come out and sing. What and you're thinking of me and texting me?
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  Like my mind is blown? Like like faith will put you in rooms that
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  people can't like, literally, your faith will outdo, out do anything that
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  you can think or see. Like that's why that's I don't And I love
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  your story because literally don't want to stress this point because if you follow her,
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  then you know that she's unashamed about telling her story. Like let's let
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  me, let me rewind it because people in your situation, right, it
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  took a lot of faith because you couldn't see beyond what you had, right,
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  you said, this room is bigger than your whole your whole living situation
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  before you blew blew all the way up, having money, had the tooth
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  over six figure calls like yeah, baby, the fact is I'm in the
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  room, I receive it, listen, And so how quickly did you have
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  to adjust everything, make everything else, adjust to your mindset? Like you
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  got a husband that was just like okay, Like what did you have to
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  see like teach him the level of fact that you had or did you know
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  we have always been crazy together. I will say that, like, first
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  of all, that was a great time to mention my apostle, my pastor
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  my spiritual father, Stephen Allen Davis, because none of this would be possible
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  without him either, and the being under his leadership just taught us a type
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  of crazy faith that most people don't have, Like people my dad, I
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  call him Dad. He has a quote it says they can call you crazy,
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  but they have to call you blessed. And when we were in our
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  baroqus of broke days I'm talking about like ponytail fell off during the church service,
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  no edge control, dollar flip flops of old navy, like I used
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  to be in service looking tore back and they used to be talking about us
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  like there I could tell like people were listen, it fell off, and
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  I went in the bathroom and put up onunder stink because maybe that's not important
• 21:15
  right now, Like I'm gonna praise my God. But people thought we were
• 21:19
  crazy because we would be in the front of the church like jumping, and
• 21:23
  like we were. We were experiencing such an inward transformation that we didn't care
• 21:30
  what we looked back on the outside because we knew what was happening on the
• 21:33
  inside. And I give this illustration because this is the only thing I can
• 21:37
  liken it too. When Jesus was on the cross, first of all,
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  it couldn't have been me. I'm listen, babe, if I was Jesus,
• 21:45
  none that I would be here because I'm about to come off this cross
• 21:48
  and show y'all that I am Jesus. Right, that's what we would do.
• 21:52
  But like we were being crucified. But we couldn't. We couldn't force
• 21:56
  our way to the to the end of the story where we're like see,
• 21:59
  like we were not crazy. We couldn't do that. So when we're talking
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  about tithing out of his because back then only he was working, we were
• 22:06
  used to tithe out of his gross, not his net. He was being
• 22:10
  garnished. Sometimes we would literally end up with like forty seven dollars after his
• 22:14
  garnishment, after we tied, like we just believed that it was that important
• 22:17
  and we were gonna do it until it worked, like it was gonna work,
• 22:19
  it was gonna work. So like tithing, they thought we were crazy.
• 22:22
  When we would get car street possessed, we'd pull up to church in
• 22:25
  a cab, like we would spend thirty dollars to get to church because it
• 22:29
  was that important. It was what was feeding us. And I'll never forget.
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  I won't say I've said in other interviews, but like a family member,
• 22:36
  it was like, how did y'all get to church? You don't have
• 22:37
  a car, And I was like, we took a cab and she was
• 22:40
  like, you took a cab to church? Like it was just the most
• 22:42
  ridiculous idea ever. So they thought we were crazy, but we just had
• 22:47
  that kind of faith to believe, like we'd be working mediocre jobs and telling
• 22:51
  the people that we were gonna be millionaires. And sometimes when I could,
• 22:53
  I would dress up for work, like I was working at a place that
• 22:56
  you didn't have to dress up. I'd have like fishnuts stockings on a skirt
• 23:00
  heels and they'd be like, what are you wearing that for? And I'd
• 23:02
  say, I'm dressing for where I'm going and like, we just had all
• 23:04
  these things that we would say and do, and people thought we were absolutely
• 23:07
  nutty. Until now now they're either like we always knew you know, you
• 23:12
  got them, or they're silent. And the silent ones almost bother me more.
• 23:18
  Somebody told me I posted that once and that you shouldn't let that bother
• 23:21
  you. I'm like, I'm human, and where is all the noise now?
• 23:25
  Because y'all were making fun of us for tithing, telling us we're stupid,
• 23:27
  telling us you need to get on welfare, and I'm like, oh,
• 23:30
  I can't because like I have a working husband. Well you can just
• 23:33
  tell them you don't know where your husband is. I'm like, no,
• 23:34
  that's not right, I'm not doing that. Well what like they would just
• 23:37
  make fun of us so bad and talk about us. They're like, you're
• 23:40
  dead, broke, like your children. Why don't you do this? Why
• 23:41
  won't you dad? I'm like, because I believe that what I'm doing one
• 23:45
  day is gonna work. And now you either have the ones that are saying
• 23:48
  I always knew in my comments and I want to be like you knew what,
• 23:52
  or the ones that just completely ignore it. I wouldn't got a lime
• 23:56
  green car. Just you know, it's a little bit trauma in there.
• 23:59
  You know, I got in courages so people could be like, oh okay,
• 24:00
  love, they still don't acknowledge it because they can't. They're convicted,
• 24:07
  very convicted, Yeah, very convicted. As we are talking about people,
• 24:14
  you know, the naysayers or the no sayers, Yeah, okay, what
• 24:18
  about the people that have supported you? Have you been able to transition with
• 24:22
  anybody? Because I know I'm learning that as you elevate, baby, they
• 24:26
  fall off like yeah, cockroaches like babe. Absolutely, So yeah, there's
• 24:33
  there's several people like our pastor, Y'll Henry talk about him a million times
• 24:36
  because he's just like the most amazing person that we've ever met. Like he's
• 24:40
  supported us from the very beginning. It didn't matter if we came in there
• 24:44
  looking broke down, busted discussed it. He's always treated us the same.
• 24:48
  And I'm so grateful now that we're able to tay like, look like we
• 24:51
  took what you taught us and we prospered with it, like we were thriving
• 24:56
  from it. So he literally has to tell us all the time to stop
• 24:57
  buying him gifts because like every time I go out of town like birthdays,
• 25:03
  Christmas, like they were getting whatever they want. I have this joke where
• 25:06
  I'm like, one day, I'm gonna buy y'all a real draft, and
• 25:07
  it's gonna be like a designer draft, like a Louisviutan draft, which is
• 25:11
  weird of me, but anyway, I absolutely love them. So we've gotten
• 25:15
  them all kinds of stuff, and you know, obviously they transitioned with us
• 25:17
  because they never wanted anything from us. They just want to see us prosper.
• 25:19
  My grandfather is one of those that has always been super supportive. He
• 25:23
  is my person, like he's my person. We have the same birthday and
• 25:27
  he's eighty seven years old and I absolutely left him. My mother in law
• 25:33
  has always been super super supportive. So, I mean, we did have
• 25:37
  those people that supported us then and now, but yeah, there's people that
• 25:41
  fell off. And it was the ones that felt convicted. I would guess
• 25:45
  that they were, you know, saying what wouldn't happen or couldn't happen,
• 25:48
  or that we were done for doing this and that, And I was like,
• 25:52
  they're silent, and sometimes they silent because in secret they would talking real
• 25:56
  loud. They would say crazy stuff to us, so I know they're talk
• 25:59
  about on our BOCKX. Oh absolutely wow. And you you, I can
• 26:04
  only imagine like how you had to break through that negativity and how painful that
• 26:11
  was because it's not just the world looking at you, your children was watching
• 26:15
  you. So how like, how did you motivate them while y'all were in
• 26:22
  the process of transition And what impact are you seeing in their lives like now,
• 26:27
  like as their development, because that's a whole different that's an interesting question.
• 26:32
  So my kids always say that they did not know we were broke.
• 26:36
  They will tell you right now that Mommy, we didn't know. So my
• 26:38
  older two kids, well, my oldest daughter she is super like humble and
• 26:47
  grateful because she remembers when we couldn't do what we're doing now. But she
• 26:52
  didn't necessarissarily know that it was because we didn't have money. And then the
• 26:56
  difference between her and my youngest son and Judah, that baby has more money
• 27:03
  than me, That baby is rich. Do you know he said to me
• 27:07
  the other day, I said, he asked for something. I was like,
• 27:10
  no, Mommy doesn't want to spend money on that right now, And
• 27:11
  he said, mom you're Caleb the model maker. He's six, you're calea
• 27:15
  the model maker. I said, oh, this is what has happened.
• 27:19
  You'll see, just reminded you of who you were. Baby. He we
• 27:23
  have a nanny. She picks him up, takes him the Starbucks, takes
• 27:26
  him out to eat, like this is the norm for him, And honestly,
• 27:30
  it's become a problem. Like right before I came here, literally we
• 27:33
  were just out at eating because you know, I've been out of sound,
• 27:34
  so I took them out to eat. He had a complete meltdown because my
• 27:40
  oldest son asked if he could get a burrito off the adult minion instead of
• 27:42
  the kid minion because it's bigger and he's twelve and he's eating up the house.
• 27:47
  So we told him yes, and then Judah asked if he could do
• 27:49
  the same, and we're like, nobody, you don't need that an adult
• 27:52
  one. You're a kid. He cut up. And what we realized was
• 27:56
  he is not being told no, like we're so busy, we just give
• 28:00
  them what he wants, Like he has a nanny that he can give what
• 28:02
  everyone's from. The joker is not being told no, and like it's hard
• 28:06
  because you are grateful for where you are and for what you have and for
• 28:08
  what you're able to provide to them. But at the same time, you
• 28:12
  have to make sure that there's a way to keep them grateful and humble.
• 28:15
  Like my oldest she remembers struggle. She didn't remember it as struggle, but
• 28:19
  she remembers when we didn't have as much. Yeah, so she's the one
• 28:22
  that'll be like, oh, mommy, you don't have to give me.
• 28:25
  Like I took them to Target two. I have two girls and two boys.
• 28:27
  I took the two girls to Target and I was like, you know
• 28:30
  what, y'all can have forty dollars to spend them whatever you want. And
• 28:33
  she was so excited. She was like, Mommy, you don't have to
• 28:36
  do forty. You can do you can just do twenty. You don't have
• 28:38
  to do forty. This is my fourteen year old. She's like, just
• 28:41
  do twenty. You don't have to give us forty dollars each. The youngest
• 28:44
  daughter, by contrast, I'd already told her she could get a scarf.
• 28:48
  I already told her she could get a scarf, and she's like, well,
• 28:52
  does the scarf come out of my forty oh? And I said I
• 28:55
  did. The one with the bracelets. Right, No, no, no,
• 28:57
  that's that's my oldest. But but I said, I said, yeah,
• 29:02
  it's gonna come out of your forty. This little girl starts crying.
• 29:06
  But Mom, that's not fair because you had already said that I could get
• 29:08
  the because she she's of the young to the younger two are little rich babies,
• 29:14
  and then the older two are a little bit more grateful. I'm like,
• 29:15
  you are crying because I want the scarfs to come out of the forty.
• 29:19
  And then her sister's like, no, don't give me forty, give
• 29:22
  me twenty. So it's really interesting to see the differences in them, and
• 29:26
  you know, it's it's a work in progress to try to keep them in
• 29:29
  a place where they understand the life that they live is not normal, that
• 29:32
  they are privileged, and that you know, everyone does not live this way.
• 29:37
  It's it's hard. It's a hard thing because I had poverty trauma from
• 29:41
  what we went through. So the second we could, I'm like, what
• 29:45
  do you mean the little girls school has golden goose? You want some golden
• 29:47
  goose, baby, let's go get and we can get those two. And
• 29:48
  then you get into like living in a predominantly white area and all that comes
• 29:52
  along with that as well, like you want them to have what the kids
• 29:55
  at school have. And that's why she was looking my daughter, she's looking
• 29:57
  at the Cardia bracelets because a little girls school had one card Yeah, I'm
• 30:02
  like, what, like for those that don't know what it is, basically
• 30:07
  it was a four thousand dollars and the reason why I got sawt on your
• 30:12
  social media and I was like, what kind of like what is this?
• 30:17
  Yeah sheet, I don't know nothing about, right, and apparently you have
• 30:26
  to like take them on and off with the tool or something. I don't
• 30:30
  know, but that's what the little girls at her school are wearing. And
• 30:33
  even though she wants some of the stuff, like she's she's not gonna necessarily
• 30:37
  add like she's super super grateful like for whatever she gets. Now the little
• 30:41
  girl's expensive, like you know, she wears little limon and runs around the
• 30:44
  Stanley cup and all that, but she is so grateful that makes me want
• 30:48
  to give her more. Now, the mother, I love your babies,
• 30:51
  loves y'all. They just they're growing up privileged. They're they're riding around in
• 30:56
  one hundred thousand dollars car like that's their norm. Now when I have pictures
• 31:00
  and them riting righting around in a five hundred dollars van that the tire flew
• 31:03
  off of the went across the streets, say hi, you know, like
• 31:07
  just a couple of years ago, in twenty twenty, we had no car.
• 31:11
  Let's let's let's preference that twenty twenty, the beginning of twenty twenty,
• 31:15
  we were walking to save a lot with the backpack on how crazy is that?
• 31:19
  Kids? You had four kids? We didn't walk the kids? Now
• 31:22
  he okay, let me let me rephrase that my husband walked with a backpack
• 31:26
  and say hour, thank you, like that I didn't walk. I did
• 31:33
  you still talk to McDonald's for Wi Fi to you know, to do stuff
• 31:37
  with the business. But yeah, just you know, it's twenty twenty four,
• 31:40
  So four years ago we were not living this life. And it happened
• 31:44
  so quickly. I think I take everybody did one, two, three day
• 31:52
  because you in the I don't even know how long we've been going so far.
• 31:56
  You you really drop a lot of gms that I don't even think you
• 32:00
  realize. And so I want to hit something that we talked about a little
• 32:02
  bit earlier. You said that you and your husband kept going back to your
• 32:07
  church and kept tithing and was consistent at that because you understood and saw the
• 32:14
  inward work. And so when we think about that, especially as believers entrepreneurs,
• 32:22
  what does that even look like? Because you went from zero too a
• 32:27
  million like you just went what does that gap of healing looks like for somebody?
• 32:32
  That's a good question. So the journey was a tough one because,
• 32:37
  like I said earlier, knowing that you know that, you know that,
• 32:42
  you know that you are being transformed on the inside, but other people can't
• 32:46
  see it. You have to go through ridicule, like can you imagine being
• 32:51
  Jesus and they're spitting on you talking about will come down then? And you
• 32:55
  know that you can come down if you wanted to. I would admit I
• 33:01
  got some traumas. So I like to prove people wrong, Like I'm still
• 33:05
  in that place where I'm like, I will show you you want me to
• 33:07
  come down, I'm coming down. But he didn't do that, Like that's
• 33:13
  the only thing I can like in it too, where people are spitting at
• 33:15
  you and talking about you and they truly believe that you can't do anything about
• 33:19
  it, Like nothing's changing with you. You ain't got more than I have.
• 33:22
  We had somebody tell us that, like, God ain't doing no more
• 33:24
  for you than he's doing for me. A very close family member. You
• 33:28
  know what, it's my story to tell my mama. She said it.
• 33:30
  She did. She said, I'm proud of you for that. It's hard.
• 33:36
  It's hard, and she may see this and I love you, but
• 33:38
  she said it. We love you, Mama, but this is your true
• 33:40
  God is not doing anything more for you than he's doing for me. But
• 33:45
  I knew that he was. I knew that on the inside everything was changing
• 33:50
  and it was only a matter of time before it showed up on the inside.
• 33:52
  But do you know what statements like that do when it's like, oh,
• 33:54
  I just want to show you, but I can't. I could not
• 33:57
  come off of the cross, could not. I could not come off of
• 34:00
  the cross. I had to stay there until my process was complete. So
• 34:05
  that's why I always liking it to Jesus find on the cross, because they're
• 34:07
  like, come down from there and you spit on me, baby, I'm
• 34:09
  gonna take these nails out and I'm jumping down. But I couldn't do it.
• 34:15
  So that was the most difficult part of the process was I gotta stay
• 34:17
  here. I gotta deal with this even though I know that everything on the
• 34:20
  inside of me is changing. And one day y'all gotta see. And when
• 34:22
  the one day came, silence, that's the hardest part. Oh my gosh,
• 34:34
  I swear you're stirring me right now mainly. And I already had to
• 34:37
  go get my scriptures because what I what I keep hearing is what faith.
• 34:47
  What I keep hearing is and seeing is when you take the leap of faith.
• 34:53
  Right, So you said it started with an idea of thought. You
• 34:58
  saw something. It's like, man, I could do this that the fear
• 35:00
  is but I don't know or I haven't been doing this as long as X,
• 35:07
  Y and Z, right, But the courage is to do it even
• 35:12
  when the fear is there. So because you took the faith leap to do
• 35:17
  something that you couldn't see, Like you just talked about how you're living your
• 35:21
  living situation, but you took the faith. And now because you allowed yourself
• 35:27
  not to come down off the cross, you went through the process. Now
• 35:30
  God was able to show you what was on the other side. I guess
• 35:34
  what has already been there there that part, Caleb, that's the crazy part.
• 35:38
  Caleb. I'm gonna have to apology for Wednesday because you're talking. I
• 35:43
  don't want to be certain you. Okay, there's two things. There's two
• 35:46
  things. Oh my gosh, so I as you were talking, literally I
• 35:52
  heard holy spirits say the reason why she can be the bridge is because she
• 36:00
  leaned on the bridge. Literally, every example that you've given me about faith,
• 36:07
  you leaned on Jesus. And that's what I mean for those that don't
• 36:10
  really know God, because at the end of the day, we are the
• 36:14
  light and salt of the earth, and baby you shining and we can taste
• 36:17
  you from a man listener. Okay, Like literally, you keep bringing Jesus
• 36:22
  up, bringing Jesus up, but it's like literally you I don't know,
• 36:25
  and don't people are your holy righteous people that tie tribute just talking about I
• 36:31
  neave y'all a pipe down for saying. When I make this statement, it's
• 36:34
  almost that you embody Jesus so much that it's like you you are, like
• 36:38
  that's what we're supposed to do. I know your flaws and everything, but
• 36:43
  the fact that your foundation is so intact, girl, that when I tell
• 36:46
  you that's so friends, and to be in the industry that you're in.
• 36:51
  People look down on entertainment so much and they say bad things. But the
• 36:55
  fact that I see you as a woman of God first, like I literally,
• 36:59
  that's wanna start following you. I was like, oh, she's a
• 37:00
  woman of God like her think too big for me not to follow. That's
• 37:05
  why I start following you. And so I just want to say thank you
• 37:08
  man, Like literally, you are the bridge because you love the bridge so
• 37:12
  much. You can only be what you respect and honor. I love that
• 37:15
  like you can only do you can only do watch this. You can only
• 37:20
  be who you study to people. Let me tell you something, But is
• 37:23
  it Pastor Stephen right, listen, Bishop, I don't want to get her
• 37:30
  on. I honor him just because you honor him as you should. Listen.
• 37:35
  Let me say it. Let me tell you something. And the thing
• 37:37
  I have respect everybody got a tow that ain't oily or annoying it. Let
• 37:40
  me just say that because some of y'all get your own sealf titles. But
• 37:44
  because I've seen you, you you give him, you reference him so much,
• 37:50
  I'm like, Okay, he didn't done something. You know, he's
• 37:52
  speaking some type of good word. You don't pour her like that when I
• 37:59
  tell you that, Like, the quickest way to get cut off is to
• 38:02
  say anything sideways about him, his wife, his daughters, or his dog.
• 38:07
  Talk about sugar Bear, not sugar Bear. Come on, talk about
• 38:10
  sugar Bear, like I don't. I don't play that. I don't play
• 38:13
  that with any because the Bible says touch not mine anointed, and do my
• 38:16
  prophit no harm. If I see anyone on my timeline talking about any man
• 38:20
  or woman of God, I block them, like I got so many people
• 38:22
  blocked on the other people's behalf. Like I see people talking about pm J
• 38:25
  blocked like I don't. I don't want to be connected to that because you're
• 38:29
  bringing a Christians, but especially not my Man of God, because I would
• 38:32
  not be who I am what I am if it were not for God sending
• 38:37
  him to us. Because he's just you. You really got to interview him.
• 38:40
  He's different from anyone I've ever met, Like with the Church, like
• 38:45
  I just I remember when I first came. It was in two thousand and
• 38:47
  eight. We've been on his leadership for fifteen years now, but the first
• 38:52
  I came by myself. The first night was around Valentine's Day, and I
• 38:55
  remember the slogan for the church was living a religious free life style. And
• 39:00
  when I tell you, that thing confused me. I was like, what
• 39:04
  does that mean? I'm coming to church for to become more religious? Like
• 39:06
  I want to be religious, that's what we're here for, right. I
• 39:08
  was so confused that I came back and what I learned was that there's a
• 39:13
  difference between religion and relationship, and religion is just a bunch of rules and
• 39:16
  regulations, and my church doesn't do any of that. Like and honestly,
• 39:22
  I wasn't. I wasn't church as they say, Like I went to Catholic
• 39:24
  Church, which was a whole nother thing. But I didn't know about like
• 39:27
  he jokes about, you know the remembrance table that's not the Bible, or
• 39:30
  you know the fish fries and all these things that they do that we ain't
• 39:36
  have no fish fry yf for the time. But like, I just didn't
• 39:39
  grow up like that, So I didn't know about all the churchisms and the
• 39:43
  church hurt and all that kind of stuff. I just knew that he was
• 39:45
  radical and that I had radical faith, and you know, everything that he
• 39:52
  poured out. We were catching and implementing. It didn't matter what he said.
• 39:54
  If he said, God said go out here, knock on the table
• 39:59
  three times and and say you want, I don't know, Like, it
• 40:02
  doesn't matter what it was like, we were gonna do it because we had
• 40:05
  the faith to believe. And while a lot of other people were not implementing
• 40:08
  what they were learning, Like, you can run and jumper on the church
• 40:12
  all you want, but if you're not going home and implementing, you have
• 40:15
  a notebook full of notes. If you're not implementing, it's not gonna work
• 40:17
  for you. And we were going home and implementing. And while we were
• 40:20
  looking broke on the outside, and while we were pulling up in cabs,
• 40:23
  we all got the same information and we all went home. And if you
• 40:25
  all to implement it, you can't be mad at us. They look at
• 40:28
  us like we're aliens now, like we're like just like what, like how
• 40:31
  did y'all the same thing? I'm sitting under the same word, the same
• 40:37
  the same annoyinging, the same thing. And I know, and I don't
• 40:40
  mean it's like shady, but I can feel you from where you where you're
• 40:44
  coming from, because there was a point in time and I'm still growing.
• 40:49
  Yeah, I haven't even hit my pinnacle point yet, you know what I'm
• 40:52
  saying. And people like I've gotten to talk though you you you run it
• 40:57
  up after this leader? Are you doing this on? I'm just like,
• 41:00
  what y'all don't know is what you were talking about the inn work. I
• 41:04
  know how broken I was, and I know how much healing I still need.
• 41:07
  Why wouldn't I stay on the same oil that got me to the place.
• 41:12
  Don't ever listen to those people. I'm telling if you don't do anything
• 41:15
  else, do not listen to those people. I don't care what they say.
• 41:17
  They there's so much that Jack and family members have said to me.
• 41:23
  But there's an individual, that individual girl, because we don't know who it
• 41:34
  is now. But I had made a post on Facebook and you know,
• 41:37
  like in I don't know if all churches do have been like Black churches,
• 41:40
  they call it the first family, like the pastor the wife, you know.
• 41:45
  So I was like, they drive Cadillacts and anytime I'm like out,
• 41:49
  I'm like, oh, is that them like waving? Because I love to
• 41:51
  see them out like I love them, They're my parents. So I made
• 41:53
  a post that was like, does anybody else break their necks when they see
• 41:57
  black cadillacts and see if it's a member of the first family. It's just
• 41:59
  a joke for the church. Somebody was saying that. They're like, I'm
• 42:06
  trying. I'm trying so hard to be diplomatic. Somebody posted something like,
• 42:10
  oh day, you act like the president was in town. They're like,
• 42:15
  I was trying to see if you were talking about member of the president's family,
• 42:17
  Like, y'all, I act like he's a celebrity or something. I'll
• 42:20
  like, like he's a rapper. And I thought that was so profound that
• 42:22
  they said that, right, she said, you act like he's a rapper
• 42:25
  or something like a celebrity. I'm like, so we're saying that it's okay
• 42:30
  and normal to give that kind of honor and respect to a celebrity because they're
• 42:37
  rapping about whatever. But I can't do that for a man of God.
• 42:39
  That's changed my life, Like do you like it's so deep. Sometimes you
• 42:44
  just have to listen to what people are saying. You said, you act
• 42:45
  like he's a celebrity or something. So that's what, like, what is
• 42:51
  a celebrity? What does that even mean, if somebody that's popular, he's
• 42:53
  popular, Like, what are you saying? Why is that not okay?
• 42:55
  Somebody that's done something for me? But you can do it to Jez.
• 42:59
  And that's because Jez doesn't know. You never will like how you'll get clout
• 43:04
  clout for a pictures that I went to the Jesus cuntcer, I went to
• 43:07
  the orchestra. But when a picture of me and my Man of God,
• 43:08
  you're mad? Why is that? Why does that make sense? It just
• 43:12
  doesn't ever, it's backwards, and that's why you're broke. I'm sorry if
• 43:16
  he did, but their life like he's done for your But the end,
• 43:20
  I'm so glad, she said this implementation what makes me dick like we get
• 43:23
  the same thing we could be in it. I been is somebody in the
• 43:28
  church, in the same church that's been there the same amount of time and
• 43:31
  longer, and they trying to figure out how you and I'm like, girls,
• 43:37
  I sat right next to you for all fifteen years. I just went
• 43:40
  out and did it. And it hurt. Did it was it easy?
• 43:43
  No? It hurt? Like hell, do you know what it's like to
• 43:45
  tithe out of somebody's grossmith? They're already getting garnished, like it didn't make
• 43:50
  sense. We did things that didn't look like it made sense. It didn't
• 43:53
  to the natural mind, it doesn't make sense. But we did the things
• 43:58
  because we just knew that it was gonna work somehow, like we felt it
• 44:01
  on the inside. And I'll say this my apostle. Also, he preached
• 44:05
  a message one time about checkpoints, and checkpoints are really important for us on
• 44:08
  this journey. A checkpoint is basically a moment in time where you know that
• 44:13
  you're on the right path, Like something happens, you're like, Okay,
• 44:15
  for sure that was God, Like I don't know, you know, what's
• 44:17
  been going on, but I know that that was God. So I'm going
• 44:20
  to keep going. Yeah, And we had several of those instances where it's
• 44:22
  like, Okay, I think we're on the right path. One of those
• 44:24
  this is a crazy story. So we like we probably lived over the path.
• 44:30
  We've been married fifteen years. We've probably lived in like thirty different places.
• 44:34
  We'd get kicked out, like you know whatever. So one of these
• 44:37
  times we had no place to stay. We were living with his aunt,
• 44:39
  and we found a cute little town home in Grayson Valley and like back then
• 44:44
  granted countertops for the thing and the stainless Still, like we were so excited.
• 44:47
  We probably shouldn't even try to get it. We couldn't really afford it,
• 44:50
  but like we were so excited. We talked to the people. We're
• 44:53
  like, we don't have the down payment now, but we'll have it this
• 44:55
  day. And there's just so we've always had so much favor so like,
• 44:58
  okay, well, you know, adjust it and you can pay it in
• 45:00
  two weeks and we'll hold it for you. So I had just started working
• 45:05
  a night shift job at dunkin Donuts and I've been working for like two weeks.
• 45:08
  So you know, you don't get your first check right away. So
• 45:09
  like we had calculated when I would get my first check, and it was
• 45:13
  right around time. You know, it was a Friday. He was getting
• 45:15
  his, I was getting mine. Anyway, we had calculated that we would
• 45:17
  have exact amount that we needed to move into this place. We're so excited
• 45:21
  they approved us, even though we probably should have been approved. Like boom,
• 45:24
  we're gonna move in on this Friday. We're gonna have the money.
• 45:28
  I'm gonna pick up my check. We'll put it with his and get the
• 45:30
  place the Wednesday before the Friday that we thought we were gonna get get paid.
• 45:35
  We're supposed to get paid. Yeah, church was over. I was
• 45:37
  a praise dancer, so we had practice that night. So someone walks up
• 45:42
  to me that don't know. I'd seen her before, but I'd never spoken
• 45:44
  to her, and she grabs my hand and I can tell she's put money
• 45:47
  in my hand, right, So she puts money in my hand and she's
• 45:52
  like she's looking me deep in my eyes and I was like thank you,
• 45:54
  and she's like looking at it and I'm like okay. And I realized why
• 45:58
  she was looking at it like that later, but I I took the money
• 46:00
  and I was like, oh. So I called my husband back in he's
• 46:01
  waiting in the car, and I handed to him. I was like,
• 46:05
  somebody just gave us this. He's like okay. So he goes out to
• 46:07
  the car and then he calls me right back and he's like okay, look,
• 46:09
  I was like what. He was like, this is three hundred and
• 46:13
  fifty dollars And I was like what because again back then like that was that's
• 46:16
  like that's his whole check in a week. And I'm like what And he's
• 46:21
  like yeah, and I realized that while she's looking in my eyes like that,
• 46:23
  she's like, God told me to give you this is what she said.
• 46:25
  She said, God told me to give you this, and I'm thinking
• 46:27
  it's like twenty bucks, but now she probably it was probably a faith walk
• 46:30
  for her, right, and she like three and fifty dollars, I'm giving
• 46:32
  you this. So I'm like what, so, you know, praise dances
• 46:37
  over. I go out to the car and we're like, what is this
• 46:39
  for? That's crazy? So this is a lesson. We actually ended up
• 46:43
  jacking it up, but it was the biggest lesson in my life. We
• 46:46
  ended I think we ended up buying like some shoes with it, which is
• 46:49
  terrible because what we should have done was ask got what it was for,
• 46:52
  and she said, God told you to give me, like told me to
• 46:53
  give you this, so good. We squandered it. Friday comes around,
• 47:00
  is today we're moving into our townhouse with a granted countertops. Stayless. Still,
• 47:04
  I go up to Dunkin Donuts. They're like, oh, since you
• 47:07
  just started, you don't get paid until the next week. Kayla, Kyla,
• 47:13
  listen to me. Listen to me. So not only did I not
• 47:16
  get paid. But when we calculated that three point fifty, because I want
• 47:22
  to say it was like three fifty three year crazy number, was exactly what
• 47:28
  we were missing to get in that townhome. So we go back to them
• 47:31
  and we try our hand at favor again and guess what they're like, No,
• 47:36
  we already moved too many things around for you. We're not gonna be
• 47:37
  able to do it. That's a checkpoint. Even though it didn't work out
• 47:43
  the way that it should have worked out because we made a mistake, it
• 47:45
  was almost a bigger lesson for us to always seek God on everything, because
• 47:52
  if we had been like, Okay, what is this for, he would
• 47:54
  have been like, chill out, don't spend it. And then when we
• 47:57
  would have been in the townhouse, we didn't get in it and we ended
• 47:59
  up living with his for some more months. But when I tell you it
• 48:01
  was the exact amount that how many lessons does that teach you? It teaches
• 48:07
  you to make sure you seek God. It teaches you that God is sovereign,
• 48:09
  that he's all freaking knowing right, because he knew ahead of time that
• 48:15
  I wasn't gonna get my check and that I would need that amount of money
• 48:16
  to get in the town home, and he was looking at for us beforehand.
• 48:20
  We weren't even looking at for ourselves. That's an even better lesson to
• 48:23
  me. Right, your face is so funny. I can't tell you how
• 48:28
  many stories we have like that. Like, we have so many stories of
• 48:32
  just God being so faithful in us, learning who he is. Like that
• 48:37
  taught me who God is. God is a provider. He knew that we
• 48:40
  would not have the money. I'm thinking, oh, you know, I'm
• 48:44
  get my dunkin Donut check. We're gonna be straight. Let's spend this money.
• 48:45
  No, ma'am right, I have, I have, so we're gonna
• 48:52
  have to do a party. I have so many stories like that, So
• 48:54
  I got questions, questions, So in the moment, it didn't dawn on
• 49:01
  you that, hey, maybe we can use this TOWRDS going into the to
• 49:06
  the place because we thought, okay, we knew what we had going on.
• 49:09
  We are I'm like, on Friday, we're getting the dunkin Donuts check,
• 49:14
  so we're gonna be straight, right, thought, I thought I knew
• 49:17
  and obviously we didn't even gottenre Wow. Wow, So my question. We
• 49:24
  got questions. The teacher I'm raising my hand. Teacher Kayla, Kayla,
• 49:30
  teacher, Molla, Maley Maae girl. So this came up and I was
• 49:36
  thinking about this. I said, Lord, am I gonna be able to
• 49:37
  answer this question? Asked her this question sound without sounding bad, And you
• 49:42
  just kind of led me into this questions. Practicality is one of the things
• 49:45
  that we love on this on this show. Yeah, practically speaking, how
• 49:52
  in the world did you go from managing zero dollars or mismanaging three hundred and
• 50:00
  fifty dollars to now managing millions? Maybe this is the safe space multiple I'm
• 50:09
  not doing very well. It's real, you know. And I literally had
• 50:15
  this conversation yesterday with a friend. I was like, I don't know how
• 50:19
  I went from making the last year I worked to nine to five I was
• 50:22
  making. I made fourteen thousand dollars for the entire year, Like, I
• 50:27
  don't know how I went from making that in a year to making that in
• 50:30
  a day. And it still seems like things are all over the place,
• 50:37
  Like I make great money, but it's kind of hard to streamline it when
• 50:40
  you're used to. I mean, like the way you handle one thing is
• 50:44
  the way you handle everything. That's a quote that I just heard. I
• 50:45
  was like, so that is the truth. Like, I make a ton
• 50:51
  of money, I have a ton of expenses, and there's things that still
• 50:53
  could be tightened up, you know, And that's something that I wish I
• 50:58
  would have handled THEO for because you'll sit there and be like, how in
• 51:02
  the world am I making this kind of money? And it's like, it
• 51:07
  doesn't it doesn't feel like what you think it should feel like if you don't
• 51:09
  have things in place, like if you don't have financial systems in place.
• 51:13
  And that's something that I'm working on now, having a financial planner and just
• 51:15
  being like, Okay, tell me what to do because obviously I'm not doing
• 51:19
  right. Not saying I'm struggling by any means, but you know, the
• 51:21
  management. Yeah, it's just like talk about this all the time because she's
• 51:24
  good at that, listen, But just the thing though, I wasn't either.
• 51:29
  So I'm a licensed cosmetologist. So I started out on my own full
• 51:32
  time in twenty fifteen as a full time entrepreneur and doing hair. You know,
• 51:38
  I was working from the rue to to the tutor, so you know,
• 51:40
  I was making I was making pretty good money, but I was like,
• 51:44
  where is that? Facts? Where is that? And just coming from
• 51:47
  I came from a single parent home and I literally watched my mom get up
• 51:51
  pretty much work sun up, the sundown and still like it was like the
• 51:53
  ends weren't meeting right. So that was just naturally in me to work.
• 51:55
  But I'm like, lord, I don't know where my money going. So
• 51:59
  I actually started with a lizel who sent me the who sent me the post.
• 52:05
  She started doing my budget for me because I ain't know how. I
• 52:07
  didn't know how to budget right, but I knew. I was like,
• 52:09
  Lord, I know I'm making the money, I don't know where it is.
• 52:13
  Well, when I started to sit down and track stuff, she would
• 52:16
  say this, send me this. She asked me the simplest question. She
• 52:20
  said, what is your weekly goal? I said, what you mean?
• 52:24
  She's like, no, like you need to have a number of how much
• 52:30
  you need to make a week to cover your your expense on the on the
• 52:32
  minimum side, I was like, I ain't never think about that. I
• 52:36
  would just go make the money and then you know, pay make it ain't
• 52:39
  spending. Yeah, And so literally I was not tithing at the time either,
• 52:44
  because that's my saving grades I'm be honest. If it wasn't for me
• 52:46
  being tier, i'd probably be broke making millionaire. I cannot not tie now
• 52:52
  off top, like if I found a dollar in the ground. God's getting
• 52:53
  to come on. So that's the reason I keep making money. But I'm
• 52:57
  jacking things up. I'm being honest with you, like I need you got
• 53:00
  her name that I was about to say, like this, we we we're
• 53:02
  gonna have you on the podcast because we really we really have to get the
• 53:07
  stewardship part right, like we got to because the things about it is we
• 53:12
  can give, give, give, give gift, and that's another thing I
• 53:15
  give to God, but I get to random people. Car to keep track
• 53:20
  of that because one that's part of the testimony. That's like, that's the
• 53:22
  part of the testimony for somebody else and us because you still he says,
• 53:27
  I give seed to the sword, and if you continue the sword, so
• 53:30
  there's more seed, right, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
• 53:32
  we have a responsibility not just to our sales, but to God. And
• 53:36
  I just thank you for one. This is in disarrayed, but I but
• 53:45
  but to the things that keep me going. I may hear a crap ton
• 53:47
  of money. I tithe and I give a lot like I get. Honestly,
• 53:53
  what I spend the most money on is food, and that's really bad.
• 53:57
  I'm a foodie like I will. I will spend this and chickful like
• 54:01
  break this lunch and dimming out. Yeah. Yeah, I go to restaurants.
• 54:07
  Okay, how many a big part of the budget twice already today.
• 54:12
  But that's not the point. I mean, if y'all want to give Kayla
• 54:19
  something, just give her cards shrimp gift cards. Yes, what's your favor?
• 54:24
  What's your favorite seafood place? Automatic is really good hair and Burningham Automatic
• 54:30
  seafood Automatic. It's called automatic. It's I shouldn't have said it because it's
• 54:36
  gonna be booked out, but it's really it's like a super I love like
• 54:42
  a low lit restaurant. I don't know what that is, Like, I
• 54:44
  love the cozy vibe. So it's like it's really nice. It's downtown.
• 54:47
  Okay, Well they appreciate that. This shout out. You can use this
• 54:51
  free you know, shout us out to all right, listen, we got
• 54:57
  to help each other out for sure, for real, Like I love I
• 55:00
  love how your you were able to use your daughter's story. Something that highlighted
• 55:07
  in that for me was that the next stay over wasn't phased by the extra
• 55:15
  No. I would have been so embarrassed if they even saw one of the
• 55:19
  new stories. I'm not even kidding. Look, I would have embarrassed.
• 55:22
  But the city that you were in, you you needed to be here and
• 55:28
  let me let me, let me make the statement. Because people act like
• 55:30
  the Birmingham don't got nobody or we don't have I think we got some of
• 55:35
  the best talent around. Our mindset is checktive and once once we get out
• 55:42
  outside of ourselves and just actively work that faith that you were talking about,
• 55:47
  I think we'll be good. Speaking of faith, girl, let me tell
• 55:51
  you something I watched. You didn't do an interview. I watched a speech
• 55:54
  that you did that blessed every ounce of me. Was my talk so in
• 56:04
  this in this speech you basically the speech was entitled tell you say yes to
• 56:09
  fear yes right, And it blessed me so well because, for one,
• 56:15
  I love how balanced you are. Because it's like a lot of people will
• 56:19
  like show, oh I'm the glory of this, and I'm a glory that
• 56:22
  blah blah, blah, but you don't mind showing people are even announcing the
• 56:25
  ugly part and that in that take you would in that speech you you said,
• 56:31
  hey, I said fear to yes, the fear here and here Like
• 56:36
  you was a campaign manager, girl, I don't know how or why,
• 56:40
  Like I literally I'm like, you want me to do what? I didn't
• 56:43
  even know you heard me talk about. I didn't know what the incumbent was.
• 56:45
  I thought she was called him ignorant because I, like, I found
• 56:49
  myself in the craziest situations because of faith, like I have. Have you
• 56:53
  ever seen the meme of it's the dude like he has his hands on his
• 56:57
  hips and he's looking at the closet and has like all these core it's in
• 57:00
  like all these machines and he's trying to figure it out. You gotta look
• 57:02
  it up. It's like this funny meme where it's like he's trying to figure
• 57:05
  out what to do. It's like, how did he get hired? But
• 57:07
  I've actually been in that exact situation. Like I used to sign myself up
• 57:10
  for jobs that I like sim I knew how to do or didn't know how
• 57:14
  to do it all. But I'd be like I couldigure it out because it
• 57:15
  was in our birthdays. Like I'd get on Craigslist and find me an odd
• 57:19
  job, okay, Like I've sold peanuts in the stands at NASCAR. I
• 57:22
  have literally gotten a job where I was supposed to go in there and like
• 57:25
  take inventory on some machines, and I was looking just like that dude,
• 57:30
  like I didn't know what I was doing. I have. I became a
• 57:32
  makeup artist. I had never done makeup ever in my life, never put
• 57:36
  makeup on myself or put it on anybody else. I got a job at
• 57:37
  clinique as a makeup artist, and clinique that I learned as I went,
• 57:43
  Like I've never been afraid to try something, Like I'm just I have crazy
• 57:45
  faith. I can't be told no, like I feel like I call it
• 57:51
  short circuit when somebody tells me no, Like I've gotten to a place where
• 57:53
  I can either think my way out of a no, which I had to
• 57:57
  do for many years, or now it sounds boogie back and pay my way.
• 58:00
  I don't know, Like you ain't got no seats at the table,
• 58:01
  you ain't got no you know, reservations. Okay, here, he's not
• 58:05
  all this, but so when people tell me now, I'm like, m
• 58:07
  no, there's got to be a way. So like I've always had those
• 58:10
  characteristics. I just have crazy faith all sign. My husband's like, how
• 58:15
  you go get a job at clinique and you don't wear makeup. I'm like,
• 58:20
  I just I'll figure it out. Why you got makeup artists not even
• 58:24
  sign it up or even saying hey I'll do this, I'll do that,
• 58:28
  and all they say. I love when they say these is it's it's everybody's
• 58:32
  being a makeup it's cluttered, because that's I have a box for that.
• 58:37
  Oh Jesus deep down say that around me. I listen when when I've had
• 58:45
  strangers say that, I'm like, what do you really want to be doing?
• 58:47
  Well? I really want to be I really want to sell lashes.
• 58:51
  But everyone's doing that. I will smack you because listen to me. That
• 58:54
  irritates my soul because first of all, they don't know where I came from,
• 58:58
  Like, don't ever make it? Excuse around me, like, don't
• 59:00
  do it? Is there not a McDonald's right across the street from Burger King?
• 59:07
  Is there? Do they both sell burgers? Are their lines wrapped around
• 59:12
  each quarter? Yes? So don't ever talk about what you won't do because
• 59:16
  somebody else is doing it because you bring something unique to what you do.
• 59:22
  One of them's flame broiled, right, and then the other one. I
• 59:23
  don't know what they do it because it has a flavor. But my point
• 59:25
  is you bring something unique everybody. I you know you're doing a podcast.
• 59:32
  It seems like everyone's doing a podcast now, but what you bring to the
• 59:36
  table is different. Tapatha Brown chose you to talk to you got killed the
• 59:39
  Model Maker. No, no, no, But I've said no to several
• 59:45
  podcasts that I didn't want to do. I just love the way you came
• 59:47
  up to me. You're like, oh my gosh. I'm like, I'm
• 59:50
  on your vision board, Like how could I not do it? Like,
• 59:52
  but we haven't told them the story. Yeah, you have not to.
• 59:55
  So I and I'm gonna let talk to pretend her because she got to tell
• 1:00:00
  her reaction because I love her reactions. So I've been following. I say
• 1:00:05
  this earlier. I've been following Calor for some years now, and I seen
• 1:00:08
  I was following before the big hit happened, right, And so I went
• 1:00:14
  to Woman Evolved in September shout out to pastor Sarah Jakes Roberts. We love
• 1:00:19
  you. I can't wait to do the podcast with see whether I'm only Warman
• 1:00:22
  evall or you on just a for podkids, you heard it. So I
• 1:00:28
  actually signed up to serve for Woman Involved and I was on the PR team.
• 1:00:31
  So for some for some reason, they had me go look at for
• 1:00:35
  somebody. I don't know what I was doing at the moment, but I
• 1:00:37
  forgot what I was doing because all I saw was her and she was in
• 1:00:43
  a front seat on the specific section. You know what I was looking for.
• 1:00:45
  I was looking for my line sister. I'm looking for my sister and
• 1:00:50
  to give her her because I hadn't seen her, and she was in the
• 1:00:52
  section that she was in, and I think I forgot to even look for
• 1:00:58
  And I saw the Woman of God and we locked eyes and I'm like this,
• 1:01:01
  y'all, like if you see me on YouTube? Oh? Like I
• 1:01:05
  was like, I'm trying not to scream. It's forty thousand people in this
• 1:01:09
  space and I see her. Somebody that I wrote on my vision list for
• 1:01:15
  the podcast to interview at this point, I and when I wrote it down,
• 1:01:19
  I wouldn't really interview anybody. It was just me. I decided to
• 1:01:22
  write names down, and baby, I've been checking them things off, baby,
• 1:01:25
  and so I freeze and I freak, like I am literally freaking out.
• 1:01:30
  I don't even know. I can't even tell you what my body was
• 1:01:31
  doing, but she can. And I go up to her. I'm like,
• 1:01:36
  oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I said, can I hug
• 1:01:38
  you? Like I'm sight nervous because I'm like, she is great than me,
• 1:01:45
  Like she might not be a celebrity, y'all, but she she my
• 1:01:46
  celebrity. Okay, She's done a lot for me, okay, and so
• 1:01:50
  I'm gonna let you. Yeah. So I mean, I was like,
• 1:01:53
  I don't view myself how other people view me, which is probably a good
• 1:01:57
  thing. I don't think we should ever be grand in our own eyes.
• 1:02:01
  Like I'm not saying I think I'm not special, but like when I go
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  out and Birmingham, especially, like I get stopped every single day, somebody's
• 1:02:10
  either telling me they've done my program or like they know me from social media,
• 1:02:15
  and it's it's still kind of strange to me because I was just twenty
• 1:02:20
  twenty. Just blew me up. So I go out places and I was
• 1:02:23
  at breakfast and the lady behind me it's like, oh my gosh, I'm
• 1:02:25
  in your program, Like what, Like you're Caucasian and on the other side
• 1:02:29
  of town. Are you serious? So like I got kind of used to
• 1:02:31
  it in Birmingham, but like I'm in Dallas, Texas in a room full
• 1:02:37
  of women, like forty thousand people and I'm sitting there. She comes up
• 1:02:39
  to me and she's like, oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, it's
• 1:02:42
  you. I'm like, shitly, she doesn't be me, she don't think
• 1:02:44
  I'm someone else, but I feel special, like I'm not like Hollywood.
• 1:02:50
  I would never like I get just as excited to see y'all as you are
• 1:02:53
  me because it's always a reminder of what I've built and what God has done
• 1:02:58
  in me. So I was super excited to see you. I gave you
• 1:02:59
  a I was like, what's your name on her Facebook? Like I'm my
• 1:03:04
  god. I thought it was just as cool as you did. Like I
• 1:03:06
  don't think I'll ever get to the point where I'm like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:09
  I'm Kayla, like like that's just not me. I'm I'm just me
• 1:03:13
  day and day out. So yeah, I was excited. And then you
• 1:03:15
  told me that I was on your vision board. I was like, Oh,
• 1:03:17
  for sure, we can do this because how else would we bump into
• 1:03:20
  each other and in a room with all these people. So it was really
• 1:03:22
  cool. And I told that story several times to other people. Really yeah,
• 1:03:25
  I was just telling that the other day. I was like, cause
• 1:03:28
  they were like, you're out of talent, nobody's gonna recognize you here.
• 1:03:30
  I was like, they might be cause I was in Dallas and somebody came
• 1:03:35
  up to me and people. But you know what I love about this story.
• 1:03:37
  There's an extension to their story. So watch this. So even though
• 1:03:43
  you gave me permission to reach out to you to do the podcast, I
• 1:03:46
  was still scared. Are you serious? I was still scared. I was
• 1:03:51
  still wrapped up a little bit in fear because I was like, Okay,
• 1:03:55
  it's the imposter syndrome, Like, can I really y'all deal with that?
• 1:04:00
  Man? Can I really interview somebody so great like her? And then the
• 1:04:03
  impact that that would have and is going to have for my platform? Let's
• 1:04:09
  just be real. You know what I'm saying. That's not why I did
• 1:04:11
  it, because I go I'm live by Holy Spirit foremost, there's a lot
• 1:04:14
  of people I can reach out to, but I don't like you just said
• 1:04:16
  right, and so I thank you, and I thank God for allowing you
• 1:04:19
  to feel this be a safe space for you to be interviewed. But I
• 1:04:25
  really didn't even respond to your your your yes, because I was still not
• 1:04:31
  prepare. And so what people don't understand is the Tabitha Brown broke something in
• 1:04:38
  me, like me saying yes and then actually doing it. She looked at
• 1:04:43
  me and she said, I told I told her this is so exclusives.
• 1:04:47
  When we got back, when we got finished and we got done backstage,
• 1:04:51
  right we got backstage, I was like, the first thing I did,
• 1:04:55
  I said, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I messed up on
• 1:04:58
  this question. I'm in my went directly like negative negative negative, And she
• 1:05:04
  looked at me. She said no, she said, you made not one
• 1:05:09
  mistake. Wow. And I looked at her, Oh, I looked at
• 1:05:15
  her, Caleb, and I was so confused because I sometimes I feel like
• 1:05:20
  I am the mistake yep. And so when she looked at me and said
• 1:05:27
  you made not one mistake, right, thank you, you may not one
• 1:05:31
  mistake that gave me so much confidence and then being able to like so many
• 1:05:39
  people in Birmingham didn't know who I was right and still don't. But the
• 1:05:45
  people that were there, I heard nothing bad like I've heard nothing continuously good
• 1:05:53
  things. And I was like, you are meteorologist. I can't think I
• 1:05:56
  think it's Tonia she she me out, I think she's WBrC or yeah,
• 1:06:03
  she shouted me out. And that was the biggest compliment. She was like,
• 1:06:09
  girl, you did that, and if y'all gonna follow her black girl
• 1:06:12
  magic. That was a big deal to me because what people don't understand is
• 1:06:16
  before the before the interview, I was contemplating on getting Fred Davenport to mentor
• 1:06:26
  me. I was gonna reach out to him. Scared to do it,
• 1:06:28
  Wow, I was gonna reach out to him because I like the way the
• 1:06:30
  way he interviews as well. He just keep it real, you know what
• 1:06:32
  I'm saying, But he's still polished and poised. And the reason why I
• 1:06:35
  was going to do that was because, for one, he's local in Birmingham.
• 1:06:40
  And then David Shan he was telling us to study study other interviewers,
• 1:06:45
  and I did that. I literally took what he said and I started implementing
• 1:06:48
  what he said so fast forward, I still ain't had no one on one
• 1:06:54
  training. I'm just going you do a great job. Thank you, and
• 1:07:00
  I'm like, okay, girl. The extension to the story is that you
• 1:07:05
  were proud of me and you reached out to me. You was like,
• 1:07:09
  hey, I meant what I said. Like, if you had not done
• 1:07:11
  that, I don't know if I would have still had the good Wow,
• 1:07:14
  you broke something in me and said, hey, no, I committed to
• 1:07:16
  something to you a minute ago. I still want us to do that.
• 1:07:19
  I mean it did, and I even meant it more now. She said,
• 1:07:23
  this is what she told me. I want you to catch it.
• 1:07:24
  She said, we got to keep up the momentum. We I'm glad you
• 1:07:30
  called what I said. I'm a girls girl, like she said, we
• 1:07:33
  got to keep up with the momentum. And that girl, my past with
• 1:07:40
  women has not been good. So for somebody that don't even know me,
• 1:07:45
  like this week, girl, I saw that. I was so excited.
• 1:07:48
  I was like, oh my gosh, that's the girl that I met in
• 1:07:50
  Dallas. I'm telling she got an interview times around and I'm wondering, like,
• 1:07:55
  out of all those people that were tired, like I was tagging myself,
• 1:07:58
  I didn't know what it was for, and I wasn't probably do an
• 1:08:00
  interview, but she was like for creators. I was like, I'm tagging
• 1:08:01
  myself. But when I saw it was somebody that I knew, I was
• 1:08:03
  super excited for you. Of course, Like if I told you I was
• 1:08:06
  gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. I'm not. I don't care
• 1:08:10
  how big I get. I don't care who my clients are. I will
• 1:08:13
  never be a B word. I don't know if we can say that I'm
• 1:08:15
  here, but I will never be a B word, Like I'm not gonna
• 1:08:18
  do that. I'm me. This is this is how I became me,
• 1:08:21
  So why would I change that? When I when I elevate financially or with
• 1:08:27
  clout, like I'm just I'm me. I walk around and look like I'm
• 1:08:30
  homeless most days, Like my son's a little tear up today, like I
• 1:08:32
  just I'm just me and I and I love it, and I'll say this.
• 1:08:38
  I didn't really start to blow up until I stopped trying to be someone
• 1:08:44
  else on social media. So I got on Instagram late. I got on
• 1:08:46
  Instagram like twenty fourteen. I think it came out like two thousand and eight.
• 1:08:50
  But when I first got on there, like I'm scrolling, I'm like,
• 1:08:53
  Okay, we're perfect here. This is what we do like Instagram,
• 1:08:56
  we're perfect, Like you know, that's what we do. So I would
• 1:08:58
  have when I go back and look at some of my older stuff, I'm
• 1:09:00
  like, what was that caption? Like what was I even saying? That's
• 1:09:03
  not my voice? What the heck was I talking about? Because I was
• 1:09:05
  trying to be I was trying to grow followers, like I was trying to
• 1:09:09
  be popular. I'll be terrified to go live. First time I ever went
• 1:09:13
  live on Instagram was in twenty twenty because I was I was scared, like
• 1:09:15
  I felt like I had to show up as a certain person because people wouldn't
• 1:09:20
  like me. It wasn't until twenty twenty that was like bump it and I
• 1:09:24
  started being like completely me where I am a goofball, like I forget things
• 1:09:28
  like I'll be on live and I'll bet what was I talking about, guys,
• 1:09:30
  because I'll lose my trade of thought in the middle. At first,
• 1:09:32
  I would freak me out. I would get off, but I'd just be
• 1:09:34
  like, y'all, I forget things really easily. Can y'all tell me what
• 1:09:36
  I was talking about, and they'll tell me and then I'll just keep on
• 1:09:39
  going. Or the whole thing was shrimp. Like all my followers know I
• 1:09:42
  love shrimp, so when they hop on my lives, they dropped shrimp emojis.
• 1:09:45
  That's like the thing to tell us that they're og Like they instantly start
• 1:09:47
  dropping shrimp emojis, and I love that. It's like we're a family.
• 1:09:50
  My kids used to be running by, like my son used to be.
• 1:09:53
  He never had clothes on. Judah, don't know if you're following me back
• 1:09:55
  then own he had his own hashtag and everything. It's called freedom Friday.
• 1:09:59
  Would you he never had close them, but he's run by naked. They'd
• 1:10:01
  be in the background fighting. I'll be on Live telling the story and I'll
• 1:10:04
  start crying. I've taken my wig off a Live, my lashes like I
• 1:10:08
  am just me and they absolutely love it. And I'm like, all this
• 1:10:11
  time I was trying to be you know, this perfect, perfect picture,
• 1:10:14
  perfect model person, and all I had to do was be me. And
• 1:10:16
  that's when my followers start growing. That's when I was just me and it's
• 1:10:21
  so much easier. Your followers started growing because you showed up. Yep,
• 1:10:27
  come on, your followers couldn't follow you. Why you was trying to be
• 1:10:30
  somebody else. But when Kayla showed up. With Kayla showed up, then
• 1:10:35
  they're like, oh, that's that's who I've been looking for, somebody who
• 1:10:38
  was real. And you know what they say people. I can show you
• 1:10:41
  at least fifteen messages recently where people like I just watched all your videos and
• 1:10:44
  I don't know, I just trust you, Like can I go ahead and
• 1:10:45
  sign up? They say that all the time. I don't know why I
• 1:10:48
  trust you, but I just do, Like can I give you my money?
• 1:10:50
  I just trust you. I trust you. I trust you. And
• 1:10:53
  it's because I'm not I'm being me like I'm not saying it all right,
• 1:10:58
  I'm you know, I'm goofy. I forget what I'm saying. They're like,
• 1:11:01
  you're so genuine, You're so genuine, You're so genuine. I trust
• 1:11:04
  you. Here's my money. That's what happens. Just me me, man.
• 1:11:09
  You just she's been dropping gyms, man like, this can't be your
• 1:11:13
  last time. Sus like, no, it's not. I'm gonna bring dad
• 1:11:15
  back and my apossible Okay, I I would love that. I'm gonna have
• 1:11:18
  to you know, I'm not wearing makeup that day because I feel like there's
• 1:11:23
  gonna be a whole box of probably not Like I don't even know why make
• 1:11:27
  up the church, because it's just it doesn't make sense. Man, you
• 1:11:32
  together, Yeah, you feel like family though, I'll just have to say
• 1:11:34
  that, like I don't say with our family now, Like yeah, and
• 1:11:40
  I think I think for people that are elevating and going to the next level,
• 1:11:45
  mm hmm, Sorry, there's something outside to start up you can't talk
• 1:11:50
  about because as you elevate and as the money comes in. You know how
• 1:11:56
  people always say, like you hear this quote, money isn't everything. Money
• 1:11:58
  is and everything, and you're like, uh, let me get a little
• 1:12:00
  bit and then I'll tell you, but like just go wire me and then
• 1:12:03
  I'll tell you, like money doesn't make you happy? Wire me and then
• 1:12:06
  tell me, like that's how I used to be, Like what do you
• 1:12:09
  mean surely money equates to happiness. Last year almost took me out. Wow.
• 1:12:19
  Last year was the hardest year of my entire life, to the point
• 1:12:24
  where that pretty hundred thousand dollars car that I was talking about, Like,
• 1:12:28
  there were times I'm like if I just veer off to the right a little
• 1:12:30
  bit, it'll be over. And if I'm being completely honest, I'm gonna
• 1:12:38
  tell you something. When you walked up to me in Dallas at a Christian
• 1:12:45
  conference, I was sloppy, drunk and I'm not even a drinker, and
• 1:12:57
  I was at a Christian conference singing chant no More. It was that hard.
• 1:13:02
  Wow, it was that hard. And I made the most money I've
• 1:13:06
  ever made, got all the celebrity clients talking to Tasha Cobbs backstage, and
• 1:13:14
  I felt like my entire world was falling apart. So I'm here to say
• 1:13:18
  money truly is not everything. It can help you pay your bills, it
• 1:13:25
  can skip you to the front of the line you want to bribe somebody.
• 1:13:28
  But I learned that there's so many other things that are jacked up within me
• 1:13:34
  that money can't solve. And I spent so many years in survival mode,
• 1:13:40
  Like how am I gonna feed my kids today? She needs eight dollars for
• 1:13:45
  a field trip? How am I gonna What am I gonna sell to get
• 1:13:46
  eight? That? Like the day to day grind it was. It was
• 1:13:49
  survival mode. So I didn't have time to sit down and be like,
• 1:13:51
  hey, well your mom said to you. It kind of jacked you up.
• 1:13:56
  You have trauma from that. You know, you have rejection issues.
• 1:14:00
  You don't believe anyone really loves you. You think everyone's lying to you.
• 1:14:05
  You have imposter syndrome. There's so many things that started to be revealed,
• 1:14:12
  which I believe that God reveals things when it's time to heal from them.
• 1:14:15
  But I was like, Lord, could we rebuild them one at a time?
• 1:14:18
  Could you slow down on the revelation because it was like it was almost
• 1:14:23
  like it was all it once, and it's like I want to just like,
• 1:14:27
  can you wave a wand and just heal me? Because we know you
• 1:14:30
  can do things instantly, Lord, and if you're listening to God, you
• 1:14:32
  still could. But I'm like, I either want to be healed or I
• 1:14:36
  don't want to be here. That's that was where I was. That's where
• 1:14:39
  I was. I was like, this is too hard, it's too much.
• 1:14:43
  I either want to be healed or I can't do this anymore. I
• 1:14:45
  want it all to happen all at once, because this is ridiculous. And
• 1:14:48
  I was in therapy. I went. Honestly, I feel like therapy started
• 1:14:51
  the spiral I don't think we talk about this enough. Therapy started by spiral.
• 1:14:56
  I'm not saying it's bad, but like you gotta really be actively working
• 1:15:00
  on the things that they teach you, or like have a happy place to
• 1:15:03
  go to after you get out, because all I'm doing is like sitting in
• 1:15:06
  these deep dirt places that I've talked about, Like day they really did be
• 1:15:10
  like that, like that really happened. Like that's really jacked up. Why
• 1:15:13
  did that happen to me? Why? And that starts spiraling. So last
• 1:15:15
  year was really jacked up. And I have money. So that's my point,
• 1:15:17
  Like you still have to work on you and not think that when you
• 1:15:21
  get to this magical place in business or whatever the success is, that everything's
• 1:15:28
  going to be different because it's not. I know that took a depressing turn,
• 1:15:32
  but I just feel like because people look up to me and they're like,
• 1:15:38
  you know, Okayla, and they think everything's perfect, but no,
• 1:15:42
  like you know how many crying selfies I have, I'm weird. I take
• 1:15:44
  like if I am crying, well I have before, I have way more
• 1:15:47
  than I post it, but I do because and then people always say,
• 1:15:50
  well would you take a picture while your crying cause I document everything. I
• 1:15:53
  have a picture of me in my eighteenth birthday. The elevator stopped and I'm
• 1:15:57
  terrified of an elevator problem, like terrified it it happened on my birthday and
• 1:16:00
  I'm crying. Stay with the elevator or my eighteenth birthday, or turn my
• 1:16:03
  husbands and take a picture because I want memories. So that's why I crying
• 1:16:08
  pictures. But I post them because I want people to know that my life
• 1:16:12
  is not perfect. People think that success and money, oh you're good.
• 1:16:15
  No. No, I cry in my car a lot. My car is
• 1:16:18
  like a little therapy pod, so you know life is not perfect. No.
• 1:16:26
  First of all, man, I want to I want to say thank
• 1:16:32
  you for being feeling safe enough to expose that. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:16:41
  Like, I don't think that thank you because you just kind of confirmed
• 1:16:44
  what these is like for us, and that's important to me personally. That's
• 1:16:49
  the goal. The safe space for the influencers because you're definitely influencers, right,
• 1:16:57
  So there's no judgment here, right, suicide of thoughts been there.
• 1:17:00
  I have to fight depression, anxiety. I think I'm probably fighting depression right
• 1:17:04
  now because elevation. You don't know what they look like. No one's in
• 1:17:09
  my family has been doing the things I've been doing. I had to go
• 1:17:12
  outside, Coach CJ call my nerves about the interviewing on tablet because I thought
• 1:17:16
  I was impositive in like, didn't even have the money to go get to
• 1:17:24
  Dallas where I met you. Like, so it's real, like people don't
• 1:17:28
  understand the process or the backstory of a thing, but they just see the
• 1:17:30
  picture. And you are the one. You're the one, So it's gonna
• 1:17:34
  be hard. You're You're the one. You're the one at the front and
• 1:17:39
  you're breaking through for everybody else to come behind you. So it's gonna be
• 1:17:42
  hard. We are the ones. We are the one. That's actually a
• 1:17:46
  movement that my apostles started. We have shirts and bring you on, but
• 1:17:49
  they say I am the one, and it's a reminder like I am a
• 1:17:54
  generational curse breaker. I am the first in my family, whether they want
• 1:17:57
  to acknowledge it or not, I am the first to do what I'm doing
• 1:18:00
  on the level that I'm doing it, and I'm doing it for them and
• 1:18:03
  for everyone else. And you've done it well, And I want to say
• 1:18:10
  congratulations because I know you just said therapy because I was gonna ask you you
• 1:18:15
  have a therapist, and yet that opens it up. But what people don't
• 1:18:18
  tell you is, yeah, you need Jesus, you need therapists, but
• 1:18:21
  you also need community. And so my prayer for you is that God continues
• 1:18:27
  to keep you in community because that what that's what maintains the healing. That's
• 1:18:34
  good. And I'm gonna commit to you right now, like we got each
• 1:18:40
  other numbers now, like there's no reason, there's no reason that you can't
• 1:18:47
  be the I can't be the safe space for you off these cameras because they
• 1:18:50
  don't. That doesn't matter, Like we'll talk like I'm I'm talking to you
• 1:18:58
  switching up, no, Desira, no, Like I don't really let people
• 1:19:05
  in like that, And there's some holy spirit lied because people will have hurt
• 1:19:09
  me really really bad, and so I'm mindful of that. When the timing
• 1:19:13
  of the assignment right and I'm not calling you an assignment, but just when
• 1:19:16
  the timing of when things are supposed to happen, and they happen now because
• 1:19:21
  I can. I didn't have an understanding then when I asked you, but
• 1:19:28
  postab I have the understanding of a lot of things that you said, not
• 1:19:31
  the money yet, but we're gonna come into agreement that not yet, but
• 1:19:38
  the understanding. And sometimes we just need people to just say, hey,
• 1:19:42
  I understand, and it's okay. Feel this so you won't have to feel
• 1:19:46
  it anymore, go through this, so you won't have to go through it
• 1:19:49
  anymore. Be here so you won't have to be here anymore, and you
• 1:19:56
  won't have to do it alone. And you're not crazy. No, I'm
• 1:20:00
  not crazy, because baby, these people out bet these come, it's going
• 1:20:03
  to be like I've been there. I've been there because we don't talk to
• 1:20:06
  somebody else talk first. Yeah, we don't announce it until somebody else announce
• 1:20:11
  it first. And you just freed somebody by being honest about where you were.
• 1:20:15
  You know, it's not always easy, Like it's it's easier for me
• 1:20:17
  to talk about stuff like oh yeah back in twenty fifteen and I didn't have
• 1:20:20
  a car, But for me to be like, yeah, yesterday, I
• 1:20:24
  was in this place. Last year, I was in this place when people
• 1:20:28
  like knew of me. It's it's difficult, but it's so necessary. Yeah,
• 1:20:31
  because I hear the response to the people when I when I talk like
• 1:20:34
  this, I hear that they're in the same places. And why would I,
• 1:20:40
  for fear of embarrassment hold back somebody from their healing, like from breakthrough,
• 1:20:44
  from staying on earth another twenty four hours, like it's it's that serious,
• 1:20:48
  it's that deep, and talk about me. They talked about Jesus Kayla,
• 1:20:58
  I appreciate you man like this has been top two podcasts. I better
• 1:21:03
  because he always first obviously out I would give it to you. Brother.
• 1:21:10
  You look listen, I love he's so clean cut, he's brilliant, Like
• 1:21:15
  that man is literally brilliant. And he when I found out he was only
• 1:21:18
  thirty five, I like, I start feeling like, okay, well,
• 1:21:21
  I've I'm just gonna start over the next lifetime because obviously I'm behind. But
• 1:21:27
  he's he's just brilliant. Like just to watch him operate and his team is
• 1:21:30
  so excellent and they're all so kind, and I mean, he's just he's
• 1:21:34
  really brilliant and I'm honored to be working with him for like, so for
• 1:21:40
  you to even say that, yeah, I thank you. Y'all heard it
• 1:21:44
  from her. But I want we always allow our gifts to leave A final
• 1:21:50
  thought We've talked about a lot, and I know some people probably thought they
• 1:21:56
  were going to come in and learn how to pose and all that stuff like
• 1:22:00
  that. But I love how God, you know, orchestrates what he wants
• 1:22:05
  to get out and reveal in this space. And so you said a lot.
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  You we went over a lot. But if there was anything out of
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  everything that we talked about, if there was one thing that you wanted people
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  to understand out of this podcast, out of this show, what would that
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  be? Honestly, I would love my final words to be a prayer.
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  If you don't mind, let's go. Can't pray for the people? Yeah?
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  I cry when I pray? So all right, I got my tissue.
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  Father, I thank you for this opportunity to sit with Jess and I
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  thank you for all that you're doing in her life. It is evident that
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  your hand is on her. Lord God, I thank you for every listener
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  that may be hearing this today. God that may be in a space that
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  I've talked about, that may be going to depression, that may be dealing
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  with anxiety. God, that may not know what their next step is,
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  that may not know what it is that you have for them. God,
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  My prayer today is that you would help them to keep going until they hit
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  that checkpoint. God, that you would help them to keep going so that
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  they know that there's something on the other side. God. Even though it
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  doesn't seem like anything's moving, it doesn't seem like anything's shifting. It seems
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  like they've been stuck there in a place that they don't know how to get
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  out of. God. I pray that your hand but on them. God.
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  I pray that you would help them to understand that you have a plan
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  and that you have a purpose for their life. God, even if it
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  seems like nothing is moving. I pray that you would keep them on the
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  side God until they see what it is that you've caught them to do.
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  Lord God, I thank you that they would begin to see it before they
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  see it, and that you would help them to walk out every plan and
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  purpose that you have for their life. God, we ask that you cover
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  them and that you protect them, and that you walk them into the promise
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  in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Such a beautiful prayer. Man,
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  y'all. Well, well, y'all, this has been great. Kayla,
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  Thank you? Does it right? Welcome? Are you okay? I'd like
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  to got up off the seat some here y'all. If y'all haven't gotten it
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  yet, this platform is where it's it, yeah, because it's God's platform,
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  and so if you haven't done it, go ahead and like, come
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  in and subscribe. Tell Kyla how much she blessed you with her transparency,
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  and remember until next time. Until next week. Life could be much more
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  simple if you just ask, I'll see you later. Hey, y'all,
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  thank you for listening to just ask. If you enjoyed this experience, be
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  at Smith on all platforms. Again, I'm your girl, jess Until next time,