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- 0:17Hey there, everybody, welcome in. It is time for three guys before
- 0:21the game, and this is a special episode. We are remembering the all
- 0:27time greatest basketball player in West Virginia history, Jerry West, who passed away
- 0:33on Wednesday, the twelfth of June at the age of eighty six. Thanks
- 0:38for being with us, Tony Caridi, along with Brad Howe, coming up
- 0:42on our program, we'll look back and share some stories about the legend Jerry
- 0:49West. John Beeline will join us here in just a couple of minutes.
- 0:54We'll also give you a deep West Virginia perspective from a voice that you know
- 1:00well, and that's Jeff Jenkins, the news director of wv metronews dot Com.
- 1:04Attended the same high school, East Bank as Jerry West and grew up
- 1:11obviously right there, knowing all the folks that knew him and idolized him growing
- 1:15up. Also, we'll hear from Willie Akers, a teammate of Jerry's at
- 1:21West Virginia, and the two of them remained their remained friends, I mean,
- 1:25the closest of friends their entire lives. Also, John Antonic, the
- 1:30person in charge of content for WV Sports, with some historical perspective. Chris
- 1:36Wallace, who is a two time general manager in the NBA now with the
- 1:40Houston Rockets organization of but Cannon native, shares his thoughts and how Jerry West
- 1:46helped him through the years, Plus a couple of emails that we received over
- 1:52the last twenty four hours from folks in which Jerry had an impact on their
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- 2:34Got a great guest waiting, Yes we do. Ladies and gentlemen,
- 2:37please welcome to the program. Former WVU head basketball coach John Beeline. Hello,
- 2:44sir, how are you hello? Everybody? It's great to talk with
- 2:49you. Brad's eye as well, right, yes, sir, coach,
- 2:52good to talk with you. Yeah, hi, Brad. Hey, you
- 2:54know, I just spent three days in West Virginia, believe it or how,
- 2:59down in Maine Valley doing some on a three day golf trip. The
- 3:02first golf trip of my life ever, first one ever ever. I've never
- 3:08gone on a golf trip. And what a beautiful spot they had down there
- 3:14in Canang Valley. Good, good, gracious, wonderful. So just did
- 3:17that. But they heard about the passion of Jerry while I was there,
- 3:21and sad, But I thought, what a spectacular life that man led,
- 3:29from where he came from to how it all has finished up. Uh,
- 3:35man, it's a life many of us would like to lead. I think
- 3:37right absolutely. And you know, Johnny, I've made it remain in contact
- 3:42with Johnny because it recruited him and coached him a little bit. But I
- 3:45got sent him a message, and uh, it's a but it's it's sad
- 3:49to lose such a incredible man and influence on so many in basketball. So
- 3:57it's it's great. It's great to hear a few stories. I'd love to
- 4:01and I think this, since your life has been the game of basketball,
- 4:06let's go all the way back, little kid growing up Western New York.
- 4:11I mean, Jerry West was when you were a relatively young kid, right,
- 4:15he is coming, he's done with college, sixty into the league and
- 4:20plays, you know, a decade plus. And so what was your just
- 4:24initial before you ever knew that you were ever going to know Jerry West?
- 4:28What was Jerry West to you as a kid growing up? It's one of
- 4:30my stories. I like a young kid growing up black and white TV,
- 4:36and we were lucky if we ever got a Sunday NBA game back in those
- 4:43days in the sixties, low sixties. You're lucky if you got an NBA
- 4:47game. And I remember seeing this play which I still called Jerry West the
- 4:51rest of my life is Jerry coming off in some type of ball screen by
- 4:59wilchair Imberlin goes in and gets to like the right elbow and just shoots it
- 5:04in and then a few more times down the court. Here I am probably
- 5:09ten or twelve years old. The next time down he comes down and he
- 5:13looks like he's gonna shoot it, and he like fires it down to Will
- 5:16who dunks it. And from then on that right elbow jump shot, which
- 5:20you saw so many of our players hit for years. We used to train
- 5:26it and I used to actually say, get to Jerry West, Get to
- 5:29Jerry West against a drop coverage in a ball screen. So I had to
- 5:34change it, of course when I went to Michigan, but I loved it
- 5:38when I got to do it at West Virginia. But I still see that
- 5:42grainy black and white TV and him coming off, and that jump shot had
- 5:46such a high release that nobody could get to it. It was amazing how
- 5:53Felf taught perfect jump shot he had. And we obviously know that when you
- 5:58look at the NBA logo every day, you and he do share something in
- 6:02the sense that both of you were incredible evaluators of talent. He had that
- 6:11knack. You had that knack. We've seen the guys that you were able
- 6:14to say, Hey, I think this kid's got a chance, right,
- 6:15yeah, all right, So put your head on in that regard. And
- 6:20why was Jerry West so good when you evaluated his game? What made him
- 6:27one of the all time greatest? What was he doing? I think he
- 6:30wasn't afraid to speak his mind, and I'll tell you about that, and
- 6:34trust his instincts. He didn't like go out and look for confirmation from others.
- 6:42He knew what he saw and he wasn't afraid to be wrong, and
- 6:46it led to some great decisions. With so many teams, I think character
- 6:51was a big issue as well, and he was looking for the right guys,
- 6:56and even people that he'd have played for him played for him or that
- 7:00he chose, uh, they usually had the right character about them. But
- 7:05I'll tell you the first time that I ever met him, he actually met
- 7:10Kathleen before me Madison Square Garden. First year at Michigan. We're struggling.
- 7:15We're struggling, right. He meets my wife somewhere. Now Patrick's on the
- 7:19team. He meets my wife somewhere in the stands, you know, probably
- 7:26just as sitting next near him or something, and she and the first thing
- 7:30he says is your son, your your husband's guy. To get better players.
- 7:39And then he sees me afterwards. Now Patrick's one of the players.
- 7:43Now he says to me, you got to get better players, or they
- 7:46got to get a whole lot better. And we didn't get better players,
- 7:50but they got a whole lot better there in the four years. So he's
- 7:55this is talking about J. D. Collins and Johannes and Patrick and Kevin
- 7:58Pisknock when everybody, but he wasn't afraid just to speak that. No,
- 8:05you're you're exactly right. I think that's one thing that maybe a majority of
- 8:09people don't know he was. He was. He was brutally honest. He
- 8:15wouldn't sugarcoat. He wouldn't sugarcoat anything. And that was the thing to any
- 8:20one. Yeah, I mean it didn't matter who he was speaking to,
- 8:22coach, right, I mean he was one hundred percent. I've heard him
- 8:24speak on that is he thought that was one of his magic sources. What
- 8:28he just said, I'll never lie to a player. I will be brutally
- 8:31honest every time. Well this was later in my thoughts of my stories.
- 8:37But when I took the Cavaliers job, it was the combine. Like the
- 8:43next day, so I go to the combine. I'm sitting with Mike Gansey,
- 8:46general manager of the Cleveland Cavaliers. He sees us from across the room
- 8:52and he starts right for me, and I said, watch, Mike,
- 8:56he's gonna tell me I'm expative crazy. So sure enough, he walks up
- 9:05to me and said, coach, what are you thattive? Crazy? And
- 9:13it was like it wasn't like congratulations, you know, good luck. It
- 9:18was like, you're not why are you doing this? He said the same
- 9:24thing about about Johnny. He questioned whether Johnny was good enough when I when
- 9:28I was recruiting him, I mean, that's that's like you don't see many
- 9:31parents doing that. Yeah, And I just said, now, Johnny's got
- 9:39Johnny's got a chance because he had a young birthday, Skinny, and I
- 9:43trusted the DNA a lot too. I said this he could He's got that
- 9:46same high rise in his jump shots. Uh no, incredible, incredible.
- 9:52I'm gonna keep going. Can I just yeah, keep going? Yes,
- 9:58you're retired? Going another another like the incredible story of him telling the truth
- 10:03and being ready just to do something. So I'm with the Pistons. It's
- 10:07my second first year with the Pistons. I'm working somewhat with Kay Cunningham on
- 10:13his jump shot. He has a really low release and I've been working with
- 10:18him. It's like mid season, and you know, guys are very sensitive
- 10:22about their shooting. They don't like you like it's like telling somebody they're not
- 10:26dressing well or something. You know, they don't want to change things.
- 10:30And he's in. Then he goes back to his old habits. He's in,
- 10:33he goes back to his old habits. So he's not getting his elbow
- 10:37up high enough or getting the right release. So I'm but I'm not.
- 10:43He's in his shoot around right now and I'm just sort of watching him again,
- 10:48and all of a sudden, Jerry walks up and he says to me,
- 10:54he's not getting a high enough release, he's not getting enough spin.
- 10:58So I just said, hey, Dave, come over here, Dave,
- 11:03come over here. This is the number one pick in the draft. And
- 11:07he see Jerry West and Jerry just tells him, like it is, you're
- 11:11not going to get that shot up in the NBA. You got to get
- 11:13your elbow up higher. I'm just like sitting there like a like a father,
- 11:18so proud listening to Jerry talk to him. But what well, again,
- 11:22it wasn't number one pick in the draft. Hey how you doing?
- 11:26You know? Hey, are you doing? Okay? He wanted it,
- 11:28he went, he went right away, you got to get better. You
- 11:31had to get that ball up it's amazing. He used to take a dribble
- 11:35that was a hard dribble that you wouldn't pick up at his waist. He'd
- 11:39pick it all the way up at his shoulder, and now you're already your
- 11:43elbows already up and you're into your jump shot. It was the most beautiful
- 11:46jump shot I think that I've ever seen in my life personally. Coachy,
- 11:50That's an interesting story about Kay Cunningham because it ties into what I think is
- 11:54one of the more remarkable things about Jerry in that think about how relevant he
- 11:58stayed for how long. I mean, it's sixty years of being culturally and
- 12:03actually relevant every day. And the fact that a Cade Cunningham that can come
- 12:07along just a couple of years ago and have that reverence and respect for him
- 12:11is pretty remarkable, isn't it. The longevity of Jerry West. Yeah,
- 12:15so he must have been eighty three or eighty four at the time. His
- 12:18walks into walks in the Staples Center like he owns it, and he probably
- 12:22should. He probably did literally own it from the way that people respected him
- 12:31and just was not afraid to talk about anything. Just amazing, but really
- 12:37a proud West Virginian and you know this is a guy that here he goes
- 12:45to La right, and that's changed his infleet life star from where he came
- 12:50from in Morgantown. And man, he flourished, He really flourished. So
- 12:56great great person. I'm glad I had I got to have the association,
- 12:58not when he was the head coach at West Virginia University, but also getting
- 13:03to know him as a father and coaching his son a little bit that it
- 13:07was special. Coach. Let me ask you this. We were making this
- 13:11point last night when we started to try to put things into perspective. Obviously,
- 13:16he's in the category of one of the all time greatest players, whatever
- 13:20number you want to put on him, find whatever it is, one of
- 13:22the all time greatest ever. But wouldn't you couldn't you make a case that
- 13:26he was unparalleled when it came to an NBA executive with the deals that he
- 13:33put together and the teams that he put together, and the hiring of pat
- 13:37Riley and Phil Jackson and the whole thing. I mean, has anyone ever
- 13:43assembled like that before? Well, and that's another one. It's such so
- 13:48rare. So he can evaluate players and then he can evaluate coaches and get
- 13:54to and they have those two guys coaching the Lakers. I mean, it's
- 14:00that is unparallel, that is, there's no one that's been able to certainly
- 14:03have a career that he had. We're certainly a top five player. Let's
- 14:09let's talk about something else. This is a time with no charter flights,
- 14:13games of the every other day, wearing Converse canvas shoes. And I have
- 14:22this, I have this chalk that I have this photo I keep and show
- 14:26people. It's a Jack Ramsey, the Brave Buffalo brais coach, absolutely and
- 14:31he's got his shirt off, some plaid pants. He's sitting on the trainer's
- 14:35table and you can see on the chalkboard in the back U A six ten
- 14:45he's got the flight number UA flag time. What do you guys think that
- 14:48meant? United Airlines? Am? That was what he had to tell the
- 14:52players, that you better be there at six ten am. Now in the
- 14:56NBA on that night, you know they're they get finished with their games two
- 15:03hours and two hours later they're they're up in the air in a charter flight
- 15:07with seventy first class seats and they're landing and they're landing at one in the
- 15:11New City and getting a good night's sleep and sleep until twelve. And Jerry
- 15:16was doing that forty one games a year and playing, you know, forty
- 15:22minutes a night. Just put that into perspective his whole career. I don't
- 15:26know if they ever chartered his whole career. Yeah, it's it's a great
- 15:31in LA. They're flying, they're flying to New York, they're flying to
- 15:33you know, to not to San Antonio, but they're flying all over the
- 15:39place during that time. Just amazing when you put that, because I watched
- 15:43the wear and tear of the NBA players and it's hard, and for him
- 15:46and Dale Gudridge and Wilt, they just let's go do it. I don't
- 15:50even know if they flew first class, yeah, you know, and certainly
- 15:54Jerry probably did by the end, and Wilt did, but I don't know
- 15:58about the other guys. And you know what, it was such a different
- 16:00style of playback then. I mean that was physical, it was dirty,
- 16:07it was hard, it was yeah. I mean, there was no such
- 16:10thing as body recovery, there was no such thing as dieticians. It was
- 16:14just like for those guys, they truly were the pioneers of what this thing
- 16:18has become, and it's them. You look back at those guys, those
- 16:21were the founding fathers of this unbelievable, multi billion dollar industry that this has
- 16:26become. It's what's said. And I think we have to do a better
- 16:32job of and continue to educate the young players, the young fans. They
- 16:38have an appreciation for what pioneers they were, how good they were, they
- 16:45were not paid. I was being around in the NBA for three years around
- 16:51a lot of old players that don't love a lot of the new players today
- 16:56because of the lack of appreciation for what they built. And it is that
- 17:03I think we had to continue to educate those guys. Executives in today's pro
- 17:11basketball should make sure that their coaches and their their administer at their front of
- 17:15office is educating people so that having an appreciation of what you do is a
- 17:21super strength when you go out and actually actually perform, when you appreciate how
- 17:27lucky you are, and instead of worrying about some agent, you know,
- 17:33telling you you got to get more shots up. You know, so we
- 17:34got a contract coming up in two years. You know, it's a big
- 17:38difference. Coach, We've we've talked over the last twenty four hours about the
- 17:44incredible love that Jerry had for this state and how he kept that and kept
- 17:48it front and center. He wasn't just a guy from West Virginia. He
- 17:51was a West Virginian all the way up until the day he passed yesterday.
- 17:55So you saw that, as you mentioned in different ways, not only the
- 17:56basketball Jerry West and not only watching Jerry West when you were growing up.
- 18:00But you mentioned as a dad when Johnny arrived, how was he as a
- 18:04as a parent of someone in that program. Could you talk to him more,
- 18:07did you talk to him less? Did you ever call upon him for
- 18:11advice? How was he during that time? Well, you know, I
- 18:15hope Johnny won't get mad at me for telling this, but we had a
- 18:18really difficult thing that really it was more mind than body of making a five
- 18:25thirty mile to be able to start practicing, and Johnny had never done anything
- 18:30like this before, like most of our freshmen, and Johnny was hitting the
- 18:36wall and really struggling with it. It was almost a mind thing for john
- 18:40because it's hard to do it. It's really hard to do and all our
- 18:44freshmen had troubles, but Johnny seemed to have being more trouble than anybody else.
- 18:48So I called Jerry and I said, Jerry, I'm just telling you.
- 18:51If he doesn't make this, I can't break the rules. He's not
- 18:52going to be on a team. And Jerry just said, do what you
- 18:56do, coach, You're not They no issues with it, right, that's
- 19:02you just keep outing them. Make it. Become a player. And if
- 19:04he's gotta, you know, take a secuitus route to get on the roster,
- 19:10but one day by taking a year or something just to get himself really
- 19:15with his mind to be able to get out, get over these obstacles,
- 19:18do it. Guess what, two weeks later Johnny made it. So I
- 19:22think there might have been a side kind of that sidebar. Jerry. Yeah,
- 19:29it probably wasn't as soft as my interpretation of it. I'm certain of
- 19:34that. And Johnny flew through it about two weeks later and got it.
- 19:38So. But but he other than that, Brad, and it was only
- 19:41one year, he was hands off. I don't think he. I can
- 19:45still remember Willie Akers on that last in the last first game we played my
- 19:49last year at West Virginia, we beat Mount Saint Mary's because Deshaun Butler had
- 19:56two foul shots with uh, you know, like with two seconds to go
- 20:00in the game, tie game for us to win. And I saw Willie
- 20:03Akers afterwards, because Willie Acres told the truth too. He said, John,
- 20:08I think that's the only game you're going to win this year. And
- 20:15you know what if Jerry was there, and Jerry would have said the same
- 20:18damn thing. And so I was, you know, and I was thinking
- 20:23to Willie, you might be right, Willie. We got long ways to
- 20:26go with this team. It turned out better than that. So just his
- 20:33generation obviously of basketball players, you know, when you think he's in there
- 20:37with Oscar and Wilt, you know, amazing, amazing players. I think
- 20:42there was a stat I saw we had to Xavier Simpsons going his first NBA
- 20:51games and they started and they were just trying Loklahoma City was trying to lose,
- 20:56and they put him in the game and at the end of the game,
- 20:59he was the fifth player in history to win a game and play forty
- 21:04minutes in that first play forty minutes and score ten points in his first game.
- 21:12And the other guy the other four were Jerry West, Oscar Robinson,
- 21:18Jerry Lucas, and somebody else. I don't know who it was, but
- 21:22those dudes used to go into their first game in the NBA and play forty
- 21:26minutes the first game. Yeah, there was. There was not any minute
- 21:30restrictions for those dudes. Amazing. Yeah, no load management. No,
- 21:37it was like, hey, I've got another game, let's go, stretch
- 21:41and let's go. And there wasn't a lot of video either. There was
- 21:45two assistant They would travel then with you know, thirteen players, a trainer,
- 21:52two coaches, and that that was a travel party. I mean it
- 21:56might it might get to fifteen or eighteen when I was proudly both with a
- 22:02treatment with the Pistons and then the Candler's seventy people on that plane seventy wow.
- 22:08And these dudes were going on the road with eighteen, you know,
- 22:12eighteen people. Maybe what a world? What what? It was simple?
- 22:18It was simple, get get to the game. You know, those rookies
- 22:21should miss that six am flight, get fined a thousand dollars and they're only
- 22:26making fifty maybe, I mean only that was a lot. Then it's fine,
- 22:30get to the next flight and then show up for the game. It
- 22:33was it was different. I don't think Jerry missed many of those flights.
- 22:37No, he was the guy that was always always on time. Well listen,
- 22:40man, those are great, great stories. We really do appreciate it.
- 22:44I'm glad that you had those opportunities to interact with him through the years,
- 22:49and we really do appreciate it. By the way, what did you
- 22:52what did you shoot when you golfed at Canade? I am I have.
- 22:56I have golfed Tony like one or two times a year for the past for
- 23:03up until two years ago. And I started golfing two years ago. I
- 23:07love it. But those are some long, long, long uphill things.
- 23:12So I hit a forty seven and a forty seven for a ninety four.
- 23:18I'm chasing ninety right now. I'm chasing ninety a boy, But three days
- 23:23of in a row, I can hardly touch my toes to that. I'm
- 23:27a sore man. But I loved it back with some of my Wheeling college
- 23:33former teammates. Eight of us got together, most mostly teammates are guys that
- 23:38were with us at college. It was a great time that being back in
- 23:41West Virginia as it was when I was in Charleston with you. Yeah,
- 23:45that was back in April. Hey, one one last last thing. As
- 23:51we record, the Boston Celtics are on the cusp of winning a world championship,
- 23:57and the gentleman that you were cruited to come play at West Virginia is
- 24:02the head coach. I would imagine there have been times during this series that
- 24:04you're looking there and you're watching Jie Missoula, and you've got to be just
- 24:08like overcome with emotions as to what this kid has become. He he and
- 24:15he's done it the right way. Fairmont State coach. He started in the
- 24:18film room with the Celtics at the lowest levels with them, and you know
- 24:25what I'm going to I got to get this out there. Jeff Neubauer sent
- 24:29me the other day, my former assistant, jeffyr the report on him with
- 24:37that we did on players we're really serious about, and he talked about his
- 24:41talent and his quickness and all these things. But Jeff said in this last
- 24:48paragraph the number one reason we have to recruit this kid is he is our
- 24:53type of young man. He is a team first guy. He will be
- 25:00tremendous for our culture because he's a winner. And it's it's like the greatest
- 25:06it's the greatest prophecy, one of the greatest prophecies I've ever seen coming out
- 25:11of the First the First Testament or something. It's something said this guy is
- 25:18gonna be special and and he said that Josh Merkle, who's the coach at
- 25:23Randolph making now a great coach, was the GA founded and just sent it
- 25:29to us. I also thought, uh, I saw Joe this it's last
- 25:36year, the season before this with with and I went back and I showed
- 25:38him. I found a mid year report that I gave him as a freshman,
- 25:44and it was like trying to be you basically said, you're really doing
- 25:48well for freshmen. You're doing anything, but you you got to practice at
- 25:52game speed. Uh and because you're playing a game speed, but you got
- 25:56to practice more to be better. And so when I said, I showed
- 26:00it to him at our game, we got a good laugh about it.
- 26:04But I also wanted to make sure that it's all a few of the Celtics
- 26:11players got to see it as well, and they laughed. They laughed a
- 26:15lot about it. You know. So just a special young man, a
- 26:18special young man that has stayed close with all his former teammates, that group
- 26:23that that freshman class that I was speaking about in two thousand and six seven.
- 26:27They've stayed together day Shawan and Alex Ruh, not Alex Ruwe, but
- 26:33day Sean and all these guys they have stayed together over all this time.
- 26:37So and very proud of Joe, very proud of Joe. So all right,
- 26:41my friend, stay well. We really appreciate it, and hopefully our
- 26:45paths will cross on the not too distant future. I hope so. I'm
- 26:52Ren Baker is arranging. We hope it can come all together to bring back
- 26:56that that two thousand and five twenty anniversary team this year, Tony and honor
- 27:02them, and I hope of it. I hope I'm there and we can
- 27:07get as many of those guys back. It's tough for a basketball game,
- 27:10but so many of them are coaching, so we're trying to find some other
- 27:12way of honoring them that they all can make it. That'd be perfectly awesome.
- 27:18Yep, could be good. All right, buddy, Thank you so
- 27:21much. Thanks there is John Bline his thoughts on the passing of West Virginia's
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- 28:41Wendelmarine dot Com. So from the perspective of John Bline, let's get a
- 28:47perspective from a young fella who grew up in West Virginia, attended Jerry West's
- 28:53high school East Bank, right before it consolidated and became Riverside and Jeff Jenkins
- 29:00joined us. He's the news director at Metro News and JJ for years,
- 29:06Right, there was always that feel or that Jerry West presence, even though
- 29:14he was long gone, well you were growing up. He had this unbelievable
- 29:18aura in the Canal Valley and it never left. Well yeah, I mean,
- 29:22you know, Tony, he I was from where Jerry West was from,
- 29:26and that meant a lot to me. I don't know if it did
- 29:30everyone, but it meant a lot to me because you know, just you
- 29:33know, for some reason, I hooked on to Jerry West. You know,
- 29:37I was a little guy, and you know, you know, he
- 29:41went to my high school. I went to his high school, and you
- 29:44know, I had an aunt who was in his high school class. My
- 29:45father was just a couple of years ahead of him, so you know,
- 29:48there was always this this kind of connection, and you know, he was
- 29:55my first you know, I'm a big Reds fan, but he was my
- 29:57He was really my first basketball or my first sports kind of hero. Right.
- 30:04And and I remember, and I've told this story just a couple of
- 30:08times, you know, he he had a he had a book called Basketball
- 30:12My Way by Jerry West, and it was a teaching book and it had
- 30:18great photos in it, just great photos of and we've actually seen some of
- 30:22those photos in the last day or two here. Uh. And he he
- 30:26would teach in the book, so you had you had these great color photos
- 30:30of action. Plus there would be like teaching photos of Jerry, pat Riley,
- 30:37hot Rod, Hundry Hunley, and they were I don't guess they were
- 30:40allowed to wear like Lakers stuff. So they had on like white T shirts
- 30:44and white shorts. And he's teaching like the pick and roll and he's teaching,
- 30:52you know, how to I remember in one part of the book it
- 30:53was like, you know, the best way to the best place on the
- 30:57basketball court to steal from somebody if they're near the mid court line, over
- 31:02by the over by the sideline, because you got them trapped and you can
- 31:06steal the ball from them. You know. Just stuff like that was like
- 31:08my favorite book growing up. So I like, I'm in Prette Elementary School,
- 31:11and I'm constantly going to the place. I knew exactly where it was,
- 31:15and I'm constantly going there when I when you know, like third grade
- 31:19or fourth grade or second grade, you've got time in the library to see
- 31:22if that book's there. And it was a pretty popular book because I only
- 31:26got to check it out like a couple of times, right, so,
- 31:30you know, so I got to check out the book and uh. And
- 31:33so it was that. And then you know, I think about his sister,
- 31:37Pat. I don't know if you ever met her, Tony Pat Pat
- 31:41West Coast to the other day, Mom, exactly exactly, so Pat and
- 31:45Ole. She was the postmaster in pract my hometown. So I would talk
- 31:51to her constantly about Jerry, you know, about Jerry, and and uh
- 31:55and uh. I remember one time, you know, and I don't know
- 31:59what year it was, I wasn't very old, and it may have been
- 32:01after he retired, that he was coming to Charleston to sign autographs or something,
- 32:07and I just thought that maybe he would come to Pratt, you know,
- 32:08maybe he would come like the thirty some miles up to see his sister.
- 32:13You know, I had no idea. So I remember I think it
- 32:15was on Saturday, because you know, where my parents lived and my mother
- 32:20still lives today is like across the railroad tracks in Pratt where you can see
- 32:24everybody come into town, you know. Uh. And so I like stood
- 32:29on my porch for it seemed like hours to see if he was if he
- 32:32came into town, wow, you know. And and then and so I
- 32:37thought, well, maybe I missed him. So I got on my bike.
- 32:39I like rode over to Pat's house because I knew exactly where she lived.
- 32:44Like it's like a ride and pass. See there's a strange car.
- 32:46Yeah, I'm doing to drive by. And I don't know, like I
- 32:50don't know what I would have said or anything if I would have met him,
- 32:53but I mean that didn't come about actually, but it was. It
- 32:57was just yeah, I think you're right. It was just constantly present that
- 33:00this is where you know Jerry West was from. You're reminded at the school
- 33:06because there was his photo, there was his jersey is high school jersey,
- 33:09and it was just kind of a constant reminder. You know, I'm going
- 33:13to add to that, like you had the most literally you're in the same
- 33:19school but I think your story is in existence in all fifty five counties for
- 33:27kids growing up, like we had John antonic on and we'll hear from John
- 33:30coming up here in just a little bit. He basically said the same thing
- 33:34when you when you're young and you say, hey, this guy here that
- 33:37he's from your state. Now for you, this is from your high school.
- 33:39Now this guy do you count them in a stay. There's kids all
- 33:43over the state who just had this Jerry West seed that planted in them.
- 33:49And I think he truly respected that. He loved that, and that's why
- 33:53I think to this day, right long after his career was long and over,
- 33:58it's like he is so present. But isn't that why he's He was
- 34:01such a valuable resource for generations of the state. Is is Jeff the ability
- 34:07to see what he became from where he is from. It provided a blueprint
- 34:13and obviously no one else gets to that level. But to whatever level of
- 34:16success people had throughout the state, he provided a great example of you can
- 34:22come from this. It can be as small as possible and still achieve absolute
- 34:25greatness. That had to be amazingly powerful for generations of West Virginia kids.
- 34:30You included, Yeah, I mean I agree with that. I you know,
- 34:32I and I became you know, I became a Laker fan because of
- 34:36Jerry West. I mean there's no doubt. I mean I was only nine
- 34:38years old and I was one of these guys and I heard Coach Bline talk.
- 34:42I'm as one of these guys. You caught like an ABC game on
- 34:44Sunday, yep, you know. And I may have seen West play maybe
- 34:47just a couple of times live. But but you know, I became a
- 34:52Lakers fan and always hooked to Jerry West. And I told this story earlier,
- 34:58like I really never got to meet him until one of these years that
- 35:00you know, Metro News was doing the high school basketball tournament at the at
- 35:05the coliseum there in Charleston, and I was a timeout coordinator, so it
- 35:08must have been like the first couple of years or something. So like he
- 35:13came to the tournament and he sat in those SSAC reserve seats like right behind
- 35:19the score stable, right, so he's like right behind me, and I'm
- 35:22going like, oh, I got to say something to Jerry West. Got
- 35:23to say something, got to say something. It's like I turn around and
- 35:27I said something like we got a lot in common me, and you said
- 35:34same high school. You went to WVU. I went to WVU. I
- 35:37know your sister, you know all this, and I kind of bumbled over
- 35:42my words and stuff and he was just very gracious and he said, oh,
- 35:45that's great, you know, and shook my hand. So whatever.
- 35:49But you know, so that's you know that that was actually kind of neat.
- 35:52That's kind of funny. But yeah, I mean, I you know,
- 35:55I still remember, like as a kid grown up, every time,
- 35:59I'm not kidding you, every time we drove through Shillion because he was from
- 36:02Chillion. I know, some place people call it, you know, I
- 36:06can get into semantics there about Cavin Creek and show you. But he's from
- 36:07Chillion. And every time we drove through Shillion, which was like all the
- 36:13time because this on the other side of East Mangle on the way to Charleston,
- 36:17there was a sign undercause Chillion was unincorporated, so you had the Chillion
- 36:22unincorporated sign, the green sign, and underneath it was just a black sign
- 36:25and it just said black and white sign lettering and white has said home of
- 36:30Jerry West, all pro all American. That's all. That's all. I
- 36:35said. That's awesome, that's all I said. And I saw that sign
- 36:38what seemed like a million times, and I always would think about Jerry West
- 36:43and then I would and they said he lived kind of his mother's house,
- 36:47you know, where he grew up was like near like the Shillion Bridge,
- 36:51the old Chillion Bridge, kind of underneath near underneath the bridge, and I
- 36:53would always like to look over there, you know. You know, stuff
- 36:57is a kid that you do. And uh, you know, I remember
- 37:00one of his in you know, one of his tragedy. He had a
- 37:04lot of tragy, one of his tragedies, and this was something could be
- 37:07replaced, was his you know, after he won the Olympic gold medal,
- 37:09his mother's house burned down and he lost his original gold medal in the fire
- 37:15and had to get a replacement from the Roman Olympics because of the fire destroyed
- 37:20that gold medal. That's you know, it's just just another thing there.
- 37:23But yeah, so it was just part I think, you're right, it's
- 37:27just part of the fabric of my growing up. And Jeff, think about
- 37:30that because I do think, and I said this yesterday, he's one of
- 37:34the rare individuals. There's so much to say about him, You almost don't
- 37:37know where to start the conversation. There's just so many facets of it.
- 37:40But let's hit the West Virginia angle for a second, because that's the one
- 37:43that continues to amaze me. For a guy that was in Los Angeles for
- 37:47whatever that was, what sixty some years of his life, that's what he's
- 37:51associated with his la a couple of things. Remains best friends with a guy
- 37:54that lives in Logan in Willie Acres and we're gonna hear from Willy coming up
- 37:58and state kept that connection. He never he not only didn't run from his
- 38:01West Virginia heritage, he was proud of that and mentioned it, and it
- 38:04was part of his fabric of his life. It wasn't he wasn't from West
- 38:08Virginian. And I said this yestually, he wasn't from West Virginia. He
- 38:10was a West Virginian right up until the day he died. Came back here
- 38:14and he visited. And think how amazing that is, Jeff. You're what
- 38:17near sixty years old, your entire your entire life, right childhood adulthood.
- 38:23You had this guy to follow and look up to. And I think his
- 38:28love for West Virginia was so evident and probably the most special part about him.
- 38:32And I'll Tony, I'll give you this quick story. I don't know
- 38:35if I've told you this part. And Jeff, I don't know if you've
- 38:37heard this. When I worked in the athletic department, we were going to
- 38:39do one year, we got to the point where we wanted to do a
- 38:42Jerry West throwback Jersey, and we had the meeting and I was tasked with
- 38:47calling him and asking for permission. Were just letting him know we were going
- 38:52to do it. He was going to say yes. But you know,
- 38:53back in those times, guys, if you needed something from Jerry, or
- 38:57you wanted to ask Jerry for something, or Jerry needed to be involved in
- 38:59something, you ran through Gary McPherson, Right. Gary and Jerry were close
- 39:02for a long, long time, and so you didn't make a call to
- 39:05Jerry West. She called Gary and had a meeting and here's what we need,
- 39:07and then Gary would call Jerry. So you didn't have fifteen different people
- 39:09calling. This is one of the first times I can remember somebody calling Jerry
- 39:13West. And I got a call, I'm calling Jerry West. So guys,
- 39:15I sat there for a good ten or fifteen minutes before I made the
- 39:19call, Like, and we've been fortunate enough in this business. You've been
- 39:22around a lot of people. That was one where you got a little bit
- 39:24like, I'm going to get ready to call Jerry What like? What do
- 39:27I ask for Jerry? Do I ask for Jerry West? Do I ask
- 39:29for mister West? What the hell do I even say when I call?
- 39:31So finally I get ready to make the call on the Secretary Answers and needs
- 39:35not available UTI, I leave a message, which I kind of expected the
- 39:37chances you get Jerry West in the first call. So I leave my message,
- 39:40Brad, how WV Athletic Department, here's my number. Just had something
- 39:44real quick. I wanted to run by and I won't take more than ten
- 39:45minutes. She said, Okay, great, he'll get right back to you.
- 39:47I thought, okay's going to get right back to me. Sure,
- 39:50he's gonna get right back to me. It's probably in a couple of days,
- 39:52or I'll have to call back in about a week. So I leave,
- 39:53go out do something else, had a meeting, come back in voicemail
- 39:57flashing Jerry West return my call, Like within the hour. I kept that
- 40:00voicemail for every bit to eight to ten years. I wish I had known
- 40:05technology well enough to be able to transfer that somewhere else. Right, Jerry
- 40:07West saying, Hi, Brad, Jerry West, caller returning your call.
- 40:10Jerry West says, So I call him back immediately, and I get through
- 40:14and I get him and so he couldn't have been nicer, right, He
- 40:16couldn't have been nicer. And I explained what we wanted to do. And
- 40:21I was thinking about this last night. It's not like this was sixty years
- 40:23ago. This wasn't this wasn't that long. This less than twenty years ago.
- 40:27There were no marketing companies involved, We weren't in a room full of
- 40:30lawyers on either side. He didn't he didn't pass me off to somebody else.
- 40:34He didn't have somebody else return the call. He didn't even need to
- 40:37really get on the phone, right, And he calls me directly, and
- 40:39we talked for ten minutes and I told him what we wanted and he ended
- 40:43with this, guys, and I thought about this all day yesterday. He
- 40:45said, the only thing he asked me, asked me one question when I
- 40:47asked if he was okay, if we did a throwback jersey because I remember
- 40:51to throw back jersey is a different color. It was a totally different look.
- 40:53That more royal blue exactly than the Navy, so it's totally different look.
- 40:57He asked one question the whole conversation. He said, is it good
- 41:00for West Virginia? That's all he said. And I said, mister West,
- 41:05it is. I think this would be very good for us. He
- 41:07said, I'm all behind it. Go ahead and do it. You have
- 41:09my blessing. How about that? I thought, that's a great line from
- 41:13Jerry. That's all he said, Is it good for West Virginia? How
- 41:16appropriate is that from him? Perfect spot on? Two real quick things,
- 41:21Tony. And there's a good When I was in junior high, there is
- 41:25a substitute teacher who would come in every now and then. His name was
- 41:29Duke Shaver all right, and his or sha or Duke Shaver and his claim
- 41:34to fame, and he would braggle on this as a substitute teacher, that
- 41:37he cut Jerry West from like the junior high team early in the junior high.
- 41:42How about that, Duke Shawver? Yeah, he would tell that story.
- 41:45He said, How smart am I? He said, I cut,
- 41:47he said, I cut Jerry West, you know, from the Shillion junior
- 41:51high school team, because Schillion had a junior high And actually I saw some
- 41:54photos of that last night, and of Jerry on the team. I think
- 41:59maybe in the m's have been eighth grade maybe or something, and he was
- 42:02a guy holding the ball in the team picture. Uh. But yeah.
- 42:07And then and then in that in that nixt game in the championship, in
- 42:13the finals, when he hit that shot right mid court, hit mid court
- 42:17to send it into overtime right. And in the in the book Basketball My
- 42:22Way, there's a great shot on over sports illustrator whomever. It's underneath the
- 42:27basket looking back toward the midcourt of Jerry on the follow through and the in
- 42:31the ball going through the basket. And so this is again this is a
- 42:35teaching book. It's like a textbook, is a teaching book. And he
- 42:37comments on all the photos, he tells what's going on, and in this
- 42:40photo he just simply says, this is what happened. And then the last
- 42:45line of the book, the last photo on the book, it says,
- 42:47I do not teach this shot. That's that's what it's said. Us use
- 42:52only as needed. Yeah, exactly exactly. We had last night. I
- 42:58had got I got a call after the show sportslumb was over from Gail Catlet
- 43:04and he shared a couple of stories and one of those stories was when he
- 43:08came as a freshman. Jerry Uh you know was here but Gail had a
- 43:15red shirt season and he came in and Fred Schau said, Okay, this
- 43:17is what I want you to do. I want you to guard weston practice
- 43:21because you're big physically, You're stronger than he is right now. And I
- 43:25really want him to develop his left hand. And he said, you understand.
- 43:29They said, yeah, he said, now here. Here's the thing
- 43:30I said, I want you to you know, I want you to be
- 43:32physical with him. He said. But he said, if you heard him,
- 43:36you will lose your scholarship. And he said, and I said,
- 43:40coach, coach Shause, I completely understand on that. But he Coach Catlett
- 43:45said, he was just you know, the the athleticism, the speed,
- 43:47the quickness, the ability to play the game. It was just it was
- 43:51breathtaking and you could just see it right from there. So and then and
- 43:54then one more I just I just I was thinking of this too. Was
- 43:57one more thing is that. You know, Jerry played the field House and
- 44:00which is later called Stansbury Hall. And you know they chopped up in the
- 44:05classrooms but left the courts, you know for intermurals and different things after they
- 44:08moved into the coliseum. Where is my first class ever at WVU, very
- 44:14first class stand freshman year Stansbury Annex. So he went through Stansbury Hall,
- 44:20went into Stansbury Annex for English one. I had it. I was like,
- 44:22oh man, this is great. This is where Jerry West played,
- 44:27right, yeah, right, there's my first class. Yes, hi,
- 44:29JJ. We appreciate your time greatly, Thank you very much. All right,
- 44:32talk to you guys. All right, I appreciate that. There is
- 44:35Jeff Jenkins, News Director, vice president of News of Metro News, East
- 44:38Bank High School graduate and a guy that grew up obviously right in that area.
- 44:45And uh, you know, Jerry West was a huge, huge part
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- 45:45Maart. Early on, we mentioned that one of Jerry's teammates was Willie Akers,
- 45:53and those two southern West Virginia guys. Willie Bourne raised in Mullins and
- 46:00Jerry obviously in eastern Kannah County, and they hooked up together when they were
- 46:06still in high school and it formed a relationship that never broke, never broke.
- 46:12They were just the best of friends, went through all life experiences over
- 46:17the last sixty plus years. And we had the opportunity to bring Willie Akers
- 46:24on sports Line and let's listen into a little bit of that. As Willie
- 46:29looks back toward his relationship with Jerry West, did you see that greatness at
- 46:34Boys State when he was at East Bank and you were at Mones. Was
- 46:37it evident and you knew what course he was going to take? Or did
- 46:39it take a while once you guys got to WU for that to come out.
- 46:43Well, that's a funny story. My friend from Mullins went to Borg
- 46:50State. He was in a cabin with Jerry and I was in another cabin.
- 46:53We had least three or four all state players, but Jerry wasn't an
- 47:00All state player. He was an honorable mention and and led scoring in Kenol
- 47:07Valley. Well, this guy brought him over to meet the en. We
- 47:10met and he said he wanted to play with us, and so he and
- 47:15I kind of teamed up and played on the court. And so we were
- 47:22playing defense right off till then and one of our teammates went up to shoot
- 47:29and Jerry slapped the ball out, dropped blocked it with eve and I went,
- 47:34well, that's pretty good. Then Rick Cannel and played the game.
- 47:37He was outstanding. He could play defense, he could shoot, he could
- 47:42jump, uh, he was a pass just every day, so I got
- 47:45with him. I stayed with Jerry from that time till they until we left
- 47:52West Virginia University. I played with him all the time, and I knew
- 47:58what to do to help him, and he knew what I needed to do.
- 48:02I played off defense and rebound, and I was a scorer when I
- 48:07left in high school, but I ended up playing defense and passing. So
- 48:13it was just one of those things. And like I said before, he
- 48:19was unreal when it come playing. When the going was good, we were
- 48:23way ahead. He didn't score at all, and the Renther team members would
- 48:30score, and we turned right around. In one school, we beat him
- 48:35pretty bad. I had sixteen and he had fifteen. Well that's kind of
- 48:38unusual. And but we went on to Tennessee and Tennessee was ranked in the
- 48:45top ten and we were two and Jerry scored forty four. So you can
- 48:52that's the way it went. You know. That is a great, great
- 48:54story from Willie, because when it comes to the greatest of the greats,
- 48:59what they do when it gets the most challenging and the most difficult, the
- 49:04greatest of all players make the unbelievable great plays. And yet, as he
- 49:08said, when they know the situation's under control, they're more than happy to
- 49:13defer. But when it comes time to like here we go, got to
- 49:15make a play, right, he was that guy like give me the ball.
- 49:20We all often talk on this show like we want guys that say or
- 49:23girls, give me the ball. I got this, give it to me.
- 49:27I gotta take care of That's true. Great, Now he might have
- 49:29been the greatest example of that. There's been a lot and he's talked about
- 49:32that before, hence the nickname mister clutch right. I mean, you can
- 49:35go look at the stats that back up what he did in the final thirty
- 49:37seconds in games. He was an ultimate get out of the way and give
- 49:40me the ball kind of guy. I watched last night WVU re released the
- 49:45Jersey ceremony right, which, by the way, you look like you're about
- 49:49ten, which was startling, so they re released that. So I went
- 49:52back and listened to that whole speech from Jerry West again. And one of
- 49:55the things that caught me that I don't remember it live when he started talking
- 50:00about his teammates, now important they were, But then he talked about Willie
- 50:02specifically, and he turned and faced Willie. He referred to Willy Akers as
- 50:07his soulmate. Yes, he said, if I could have a male soulmate,
- 50:10it is that man. They were boys. You think about a strong
- 50:13statement for somebody, right, and those guys live that up until up until
- 50:16this weekly Jerry passed away. Yeah. Absolutely. We talked about a Jeff
- 50:22Jenkins who grew up right in the valley there with Jerry West. The aura
- 50:28of Jerry West. Here's another one for you. Chris Wallace not from Knaw
- 50:32County, but he's from Upshire County, but born and raised in Buchanan and
- 50:37absolutely loved the sport of basketball and has been in the NBA now for almost
- 50:43forty years. He's two years away from forty years, which is unbelievable.
- 50:49So Chris shares a couple of stories about Jerry, how instrumental he was and
- 50:54keeping him in the league and getting him work in the league. And he
- 50:59shared with one story about Jerry when it came to drafting, how he handled
- 51:07the others in the front office. Let's listen to that. Chris Wallace on
- 51:10a story about Vlattie Devac. You can either evaluate talent. I don't care
- 51:16if you're talking about evaluating for college football or the NBA or you can't.
- 51:21And he was very confident in his ability to valuate talent. I'll give you
- 51:23a story Vlade Divac, who the Lakers took in the late twenties and of
- 51:30the draft, and I believe nineteen eighty nine there was a player from Missouri
- 51:35seven foot at the time, Gary Leonard, who was a big name high
- 51:37school player out of Saint Louis, didn't really was an underachiever for a couple
- 51:42of years and then came on as last year. He was another possibility there
- 51:45late in the first round, and as they're deciding who to take, Jerry
- 51:50went around the room ask all the scouts in personnel, people, who do
- 51:54you want? Leonard? Leonard, Leonard? Every guy said Leonard. After
- 51:59the guy gave his opinion, Jerry said, man, I appreciate your opinion,
- 52:02but we're taking Blatt a devach. How'd that work out? Pretty dug
- 52:07hung good? You know. So you know he didn't wave, but he
- 52:12didn't wet his whistle. Wave it, you know, put it in the
- 52:15wind, see how it was blowing. He knew who he wanted. That's
- 52:17pretty wild. You could just see that happen. All right, here's another
- 52:22one quick. That's the executive version of giving the ball. Yeah, thanks,
- 52:24but appreciate the work. Here's what we're don't give me a basketball,
- 52:27take it now, I'll handle it. Isn't that it? And that's what
- 52:30John said when coach Belin came on here, right off the bay. He
- 52:31said he had unbelievable confidence. He never wavered in his confidence, like he
- 52:37knew what he was. He knew what he was, he knew what he
- 52:38thought, he thought what he knew. He's like, Okay, this is
- 52:40what I'm doing. But think about that. Think think if you're Jerry West
- 52:44making decisions in basketball, think of it. Take the thing that you're most
- 52:47confident in life, and then you're Jerry West. That was one of the
- 52:51greatest players of all time. He just I don't all due respect, I
- 52:53don't need you to tell me anything. Yes, I got it absolutely.
- 52:57Here's another one from Chris on someone playing around on a potential trade and Jerry
- 53:02West got involved. You knew exactly what he thought. And I'll give you
- 53:10another example of that. When I was at Boston early on was Rick Patino.
- 53:16We drafted Paul Pierce in the nineteen ninety eight draft, and then the
- 53:22NBA went immediately into a lockout to start on July one and wasn't listed until
- 53:30tenth or so of January. So we've got nothing but time in our hands.
- 53:36And Patino was president and head coach, and Rick is an action junkie
- 53:43and needs a lot of activity. And the people that he is friends with
- 53:46are all wheelers and dealers. They're deal guys, Wall Street guys, deal
- 53:51makers in the business side. So as we came out of the lockout,
- 53:54our group was a little bored with the fact we had Paul Pierce. The
- 53:59novelty had worn off and we hadn't even started practice. Yep, but what
- 54:01could we get from Paul in the trade? So they have me call around.
- 54:07They have me called Jerry to ask if he'd be interested in Eddie Jones.
- 54:12You remember the former Temple Stars for Paul Pierce. And I called Jerry
- 54:17up and floated that idea, and he immediately said, don't say it unless
- 54:22you mean it, because if you mean it, I'll go into doctor Buss
- 54:27and we'll do this in two tenths of a second. Now I come back
- 54:31to Patino and tell him that you talk about throwing cold water over somebody's head,
- 54:37that was the end of going out and seeing what would we get from
- 54:38Buck Peter. And thank god Jerry is who he was, because anybody else
- 54:46I've ever dealt with would have just inside been saying, I can't believe how
- 54:52dumb these guys are the fleet some of this thing. And thank god he
- 54:57didn't because I wouldn't be here today working in the NBA if that deal.
- 55:00Yeah, he's not overstating that. Chris isn't a right Let's explain that.
- 55:05So Paul Pierce ends up being a Hall of Fame player right, led the
- 55:08Celtics to a championship, and I was a Hall of Fame guy. Had
- 55:12he been traded for Eddie Jones, who had a nice NBA career but wasn't
- 55:15Paul Pierce, the blame would have landed on the general manager at the time,
- 55:19which was Chris Wallace. So Chris would have worn that bad trade around
- 55:22his neck for his entire NBA career. I would have been a scarlet letter
- 55:27like every he would always left it. They wouldok at it and go Chris
- 55:28Wallas, that's the guy that traded Paul Pierce for Eddie Jones. Yeah,
- 55:31he'd be done, he'd be out of the league. So Chris isn't overstating
- 55:35him when he said Jerry in essence, helped save his job by saying,
- 55:37you better make sure this is what you want to do. About that,
- 55:40We'll do it in point two seconds. Amazing, all right, one more
- 55:45here for you link looking back, and here's another West Virginian, John Antonick.
- 55:51So we hit Kenaw County, we hit ups your county. Now we're
- 55:52gonna hit Wetele County. Johnny grew up in Wetszell County, Magnolia High School,
- 55:58play at Magnolia High School. Now his job is to basically oversee and
- 56:01generate all the content that you see coming out of WUVU, mostly on wv
- 56:07sports dot Com. So John's the one that wrote the story that you probably
- 56:09saw on that site, and he joined us, and I thought he did
- 56:14an unbelievable job of putting some things into perspective in regard to what he his
- 56:19feeling was toward Jerry West And probably it's shared by so many to other kids
- 56:23that grew up in the state of West Virginia about Jerry. Amazing too,
- 56:29about the logo. The NBA has never really acknowledged that that's the logo and
- 56:32he would always run from that. Jerry would he would always deflect questions or
- 56:37comments about the logo. Isn't that also, John, exactly like he was
- 56:42deflecting the credit. The guy's the logo. You're right, it's unbelievable,
- 56:45and he would always deflect that. Well, that's our values, Brad.
- 56:47I mean, that's who Jerry West was. And I think that's why he
- 56:52so loved and revered because the values that made him who he is are the
- 56:55things that we so admire and adore. And you know, I'm choking up
- 57:01thinking about it now, man, I mean, he was just the guy
- 57:06that we all wanted to be. And I mean I can remember as a
- 57:09young professional, you know, he would come here for the dedications and different
- 57:15things and I just sat there and I said, Man, that's what I
- 57:19want to be like. I want to be like him. The way he
- 57:21dresses, the way he conducts himself, the way he carries himself. That's
- 57:24just a dignified, classy man and a West Virginian tony. Haven't we said
- 57:30that same thing? But John, You're right. The presence that he had
- 57:34all the way up until the end was out, So not only just the
- 57:37posture and the look and the suit. It's like he walked around with a
- 57:40ring light, like he was lit up differently right than most people. Right
- 57:45in the room. He's statue statues. He's statue asking you walked into a
- 57:50room and he had this presence of mind and you're like, WHOA, that's
- 57:52that person is not like anything else in this room. I agree, right
- 57:55So here here, I'm gonna let you go, Johnny. But here's someone
- 57:58that wrote. In nineteen seventy won. My father and a couple other gentlemen
- 58:01started a youth basketball league in Harrison County for nine and ten year olds and
- 58:07eleven and twelve's. They contacted Jerry West. They got permission to use his
- 58:12name for the youth league. Hence Jerry West Youth Basketball emerged. How many
- 58:16thousands of youngsters did he touch? God bless Jerry, and there you go,
- 58:22Johnny. One of the things real quick, here, guys, what
- 58:23he did for Western University all the time. He honored all his names.
- 58:28Look at all the things that he put his name on that had benefited,
- 58:30whether it's the hospital, the cancer center, children's hospital, the Pride of
- 58:35West Virginia, the libraries. I mean it goes on and on. Yeah,
- 58:38all right, buddy, be good, thank you for your time.
- 58:40Be good, Thank you, sea man. There he is, and that
- 58:44is John and Tona. You can go to WV sports dot com and read
- 58:50his there we go. All right, pretty amazing. That wasn't the smooth
- 58:53as of it? Hey? His presence was his presence, right. Yeah.
- 59:00Let's put this thing to bed with a couple of things, various things
- 59:06that we've picked up from some of our listeners. Here's an email that I
- 59:10received from a gentleman by the name of Bob Melfis. We know Bob Harrisburg,
- 59:15Pa Tony. It was nineteen fifty six. My grandfather had gotten three
- 59:21comp basketball tickets from his lifelong buddy Tony Constantine, the legendary sportswriter. My
- 59:27grandfather, Dad and I walked down to the fieldhouse from the Homestead on McClain
- 59:31Avenue. The place was packed for the early freshman game. Everyone was there
- 59:37just to see West play. Truthfully, I can't say I remember much about
- 59:42his performance or even if the freshman Mountaineers won, But I can always say
- 59:45I saw the logo play in a college game nineteen fifty six. Now let
- 59:52me show you a couple of pictures. Let me generate a couple of things
- 59:54here too. Hang on, hang on, hang on. This is Charlie
- 1:00:04from mid Lothian. Who's our buddy. Remember Charlie Steele's gas. Yea,
- 1:00:07he didn't steal gas. What do you mean, well, he gets the
- 1:00:09discount from Croker. He's not steep. It's almost the promotion. Close Charlie
- 1:00:15from Midlothian. He said, yesterday was a tough day, to say the
- 1:00:16least. I'm not ashamed to admit that I cried like a baby when I
- 1:00:20heard the news of Jerry passing. He's part of my Facebook profile picture when
- 1:00:25I received my bitty basketball certificate from him at the Charleston Y in the fourth
- 1:00:31grade. So there's Charlie's team, all right. Now, listen hold that
- 1:00:36picture there one second. Also included in this picture of the all Star team
- 1:00:39that included Kim West number two, Jerry's nephew, and Curtis Price number nine
- 1:00:46right next to him, who would play for the Mountaineers. As so many
- 1:00:50had said, if you grew up playing basketball in West Virginia, Jerry was
- 1:00:53your hero. And if you take a look at the next picture, that's
- 1:00:57when Jerry came in and presented forget that was down there in Charleston. That
- 1:01:02wh see he dressed well even then he has a sweet sweater. It was
- 1:01:06nice. It was a nice pants. That's a good look. You've got
- 1:01:08good. You think he went to fine looking Phil's. He very well.
- 1:01:10Could have Yeah, could have been look good. Meanwhile, here's another one
- 1:01:15for you. This came in earlier today. Hey guys, yesterday I had
- 1:01:22a speaking engagement at the Greenbrier, my first ever trip there. We had
- 1:01:27dinner at Prime forty four West. That's the restaurant in the Greenbrier named after
- 1:01:32Jerry. They served champagne for the entire place to toast Jerry. It was
- 1:01:37interesting to explain to the folks at our table to tell the story of how
- 1:01:40we follow him just because he was one of us. The same for Joe
- 1:01:45Missoula playing and coaching that night, and they said to him, you mean
- 1:01:49you only care about the Celtics because the coach played at West Virginia. Yes,
- 1:01:53that's just West Virginia fans. Once a mountaineer, always a mountaineer.
- 1:01:59And there's some of the shots inside Prime forty four if you've ever been in
- 1:02:01there. They got a great deal of memorabilia of Jerry West. Well,
- 1:02:07there you go. We hope that we gave you a little bit, maybe
- 1:02:12some stories that you hadn't heard in the past as we reflect on the most
- 1:02:19iconic mountaineer of all time. Football, basketball doesn't matter. He is the
- 1:02:24dude, always will be the dude. A remarkable life well lived. Yeah,
- 1:02:30and a true West Virginia. All right, that'll do it for us.
- 1:02:34We appreciate it. Thanks for checking us out on this special episode of
- 1:02:38Three Guys Before the Game coming up next week. Our next episode is Summer
- 1:02:45series with WVU football player Oliver Straw. That's that one's already in the can.
- 1:02:53As they say, it's it is really super good. I mean,
- 1:02:59this is he been around. I mean this guy has he's like traveled like
- 1:03:07someone like three times his age. It's really good. He's a good kid.
- 1:03:12When you we'll get that next week. All right, that'll do it
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- 1:03:57I'm kind of neat next next couple weeks here, you better be on the
- 1:04:00water season. You better be on the water. It's gonna get so hot.
- 1:04:03I mean it's hot, getting hot. Get out there, Yeah,
- 1:04:06get out there. Thanks to our producer Zach Kraulchek and Austin Wright. And
- 1:04:13the show was so good. We'd have two of guys back then they relayed
- 1:04:16like they tagged out. I went back into the have some One guy's left
- 1:04:19and the other guy's there. So anyway, it's good. John b Lin,
- 1:04:24thank you very much, and all the rest of the folks, thanks
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