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Show Ready - The Edit: GES Launches a new premium chapter in its award-winning Show Ready collection · Event Industry News Podcast

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  Hello everybody and welcome along to the event industry news
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  podcast with me james dixon wishing you all a
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  very good morning afternoon or evening whenever or wherever
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  you join today's podcast from i am back in
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  the home studio sat at the piano at home in yorkshire
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  after being out on the road last week with the event industry news
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  team for context we're recording this on
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  tuesday the 2nd of december not entirely
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  sure when this episode that we're going to record today is is going to drop
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  it might actually be before the stuff that we did on the
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  road last week but i'm going to give a
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  shout out anyway we're at the allianz stadium last week many
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  people will know it as twickenham the home of english rugby union
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  and we were hosted by the team at the allianz
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  stadium there we recorded some episodes of the podcast we
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  launched the new conference and meetings buyers guide
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  and had a great day down there so thanks to all the team down
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  there that facilitated that and made it happen and episodes
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  of the podcast that were recorded down there will appear very
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  soon if not that they're already out there so do have a look around
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  but on with today's recording and
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  on today's episode we're very much diving back into
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  the world of trade shows my guest today is
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  going to talk to us about a significant new development
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  within their organization and it's an organization that i'm
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  sure that everybody if not the.
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  Vast majority of our podcast listeners will be familiar with
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  my guest today is penny banks penny is the creative director at
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  ges and joins the podcast today to talk
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  to us about uh something that was officially launched i think just over a month
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  ago ges unveiled show ready the edit elevated design crafted for circularity
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  this is a new iteration of their show ready product penny first of all a warm
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  welcome to the podcast good morning to you good morning.
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  And, yeah, we're up and at them this morning.
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  It's a relatively early recording. We've not really given anybody a chance to
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  sort of really sort of digest their morning emails or even a cup of coffee.
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  I think we're both still on our first half full cup of coffee of the morning.
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  But, yeah, Penny, a warm welcome and show ready. As I said, let's give some context, first of all.
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  Here today on the podcast to talk about this new iteration
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  show ready the edit a new offering within show ready
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  but let's take a setback first of all and explain to
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  people who are tuning into the podcast today what show
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  ready is if they've not come across it before okay so
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  show ready was a was a product that that gs launched
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  some years ago and it was an option
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  for exhibitors that wanted a sort of upgrade from
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  from a shell scheme stand or for the companies
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  that didn't want to go down a bespoke build route so
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  we came up with there's there's
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  quite a lot of different options that you can go for
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  sort of various different stand designs all come
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  with fully branded graphics integrated lighting
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  integrated storage facilities you
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  can have illuminated panels there's all
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  kinds of options there and the idea with it
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  is that it comes at a per square meter
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  price so it's very very simple for an exhibitor to
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  work out how much their their stand is going to cost them
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  they arrive they have a fully branded beautiful
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  looking stand so you know it's been it's been a really great product it's been
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  really well received and it's it's it's done very well but what we were thinking
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  is that there is a bit of a sweet spot between the sort of 30 to 50 square So Show Ready,
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  and we're calling it now Show Ready the Originals.
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  Sort of very much fits that little bracket of the exhibitor that wants to take
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  the step up into having a bit more of a bespoke looking stand,
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  but doesn't want to go down the route of the very costly and very costly.
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  Not particularly environmentally friendly bespoke build yeah
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  absolutely and you know historically we've all
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  seen the sort of the what we call traditional shell scheme you
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  know back in the day and you know it was
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  if we're being honest it was it was efficient in some
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  respects you could build walls you could build structures very easily but
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  it was a bit bland from a construction point of
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  view it required you know tools it required a lot
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  of sort of manual labor in order to put it together
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  and from a display point of view a visual point of
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  view in order to brand it that that sort traditional shell scheme
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  was was not necessarily difficult but but
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  the effects weren't fabulous show ready really represented
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  a huge leap didn't it it was a real sort of paradigm shift in
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  in how you could deliver structures on an
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  efficient level but a level that really allowed
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  a level of visual detail to be added to it by each
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  individual exhibitor absolutely and you
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  know that beautiful seamless finish that you get from the
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  from the fabric graphics you know
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  that's that's something i think that you when you
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  look at a shell scheme stand and you've got the meter by meter panels it's it's
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  a bit clunky and so this sort of really does elevate the exhibitor to that next
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  level and of course you know options like this it also reduces i suppose the the obvious gap between.
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  What we used to you know call shell scheme exhibitors and
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  space onlys you know that it almost felt
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  like the poor younger brother didn't it you know exhibitors who
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  couldn't quite afford a shell space only
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  couldn't afford a custom build oh well we'll just have some shell
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  scheme we'll arrive and pull up banners and for trade shows as well as well
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  as the actual exhibitors themselves there was always an obvious divide wasn't
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  there visually when you walk to show floor and that divide is noticeably it's
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  a much grayer area now isn't it between yeah yeah it's really brought a lot
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  more synergy to show flaws.
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  Absolutely, absolutely. And also giving the exhibitors that opportunity to really
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  bring their brand to life.
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  You know, if you have a shell scheme
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  stand, yes, you can have your pop-up banners and all the rest of it.
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  But actually to have a fully graphic stand, which really concentrates on the
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  brand that it's representing, is quite a big step up from those traditional shell scheme stands.
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  And you know if we sort of dive into just maybe sort
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  of the operational side of things from a construction
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  point of view you know when you're going in when the gs team are going
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  in to actually build these build these shows
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  for clients it's much easier to deploy isn't
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  it that the whole system you're not not just the new one but
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  the show ready the first situation that one of the
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  main points was that it it's much easier isn't it
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  to construct much quicker much more efficient you know you
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  can have shows up in one day that might have
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  taken two days to actually build those old old-fashioned schemes absolutely
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  yeah yes yeah it's a far more more efficient far
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  more efficient system now we're going to do
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  something that we don't don't usually or often do on the
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  podcast is i'm going to throw a picture up there a
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  lot of people most of our podcast followers will be listening to
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  us on a podcast platform and i always say at the end of
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  the episodes to make sure that you go over to event industry news
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  and check out the video versions and it's going to be
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  very very relevant today because we're going to just put a photo onto
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  the screen now in the video and you'll be able to see sort of firsthand what
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  we mean by this sort of this new iteration of show ready show ready the edit
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  there are four what we're calling them options penny it's sort of branded designs
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  designs yeah four distinct design styles.
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  And as soon as we put them on the screen which we're going to do now,
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  You'll see that of these four iterations, there's what we've got,
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  Khan, Luter, Vico, and is that Rho? Rho, yes. Excellent.
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  These are options that exhibitors can now book with GES.
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  The first word I used to describe was they look like bespoke builds, don't they, Penny?
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  That they look, the style of
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  which 10, 15 years ago, you'd have needed a bespoke build to deliver this.
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  Absolutely. and and that was that was the thinking
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  behind behind the edit so we we
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  obviously have show ready the originals which has been hugely popular
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  and it really fits in a certain level of space but that 30 to to sort of 50
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  square meter sweet spot where people are as sort of you know they're wanting
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  that much more of a presence on the show floor they want something that looks bespoke but
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  they don't quite want the bespoke price.
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  That was what we started to look at with the edit. And the edit was very much
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  born out of, and that's why I say it's a curated selection.
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  There's four designs and each one has really been considered in terms of what
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  it can offer to an exhibitor.
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  So we did quite a lot of research. We talked to lots of people about the things
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  that they might need on an exhibition stand.
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  Meeting spaces was one sort of really prominent thing that people were asking for.
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  So the Vico has a private meeting space at the centre of the stand.
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  It's really designed for an island site, but you can equally,
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  you can have a back wall in there as well.
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  But you've got this lovely private meeting space.
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  And with all four designs, the materials have been a really important part of
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  the of the whole design journey that that we've had so it's
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  the edit is very much based on the same principles as
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  show ready the originals that we're using a modular system
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  but we've really considered all the materials that go
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  into each of the designs so we've used
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  things that are not necessarily just
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  recycled we've used interesting materials we've
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  used things that can can be reused so there's there's
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  very much circular design principles that have been
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  applied to to each of the designs that
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  that we've worked on I mean I I think
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  it would be quite nice to just talk about each design individually so
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  well absolutely well you've already flagged up something there that that is
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  is worth sort of pursuing a little bit further today which is that that you
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  mentioned that Vico is designed you know maybe not primarily for but with an
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  island sort of stand in mind which yeah straight away I'm interested in the
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  fact that it's obvious then And when I look at the photos that,
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  you know, each one, you know,
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  can be deployed in certain, it may be different ways.
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  You know, you've got Roe with the back wall, the Luta and the Khan have.
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  You know, the images that we're looking at have clearly got two walls. So corner stands.
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  So there's clearly been an element of that.
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  Been put into the design process hasn't there yeah yeah
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  yeah and I mean each one can be
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  configured in different ways and we have thought about that as
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  well but but yes we're we specifically for
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  that 30 to 50 square meter space historically
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  you're not really going to have three sides you're not
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  going to have one open side are you so so yeah
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  there's either two walls one wall or no wall and and
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  each kind of has its its own its own
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  merits so khan is very much designed
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  towards a product-led exhibitor you've got lots and lots of product display
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  they're all beautifully illuminated and also the ability to to have a screen
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  what we've tried to do with all the designs we've paired back you know these
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  are our suggestions of how an exhibitor can have the graphics on each of the stands,
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  but rather than covering every inch of the walls with images or messaging,
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  we've pared that back a bit, which I think gives it a much more bespoke look.
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  We've also been quite careful with the colours that we've chosen. So I'm
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  I am a designer and so I'm really interested in trends and in particular colour
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  and things that are happening.
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  So what we've tried to do is come up with some very neutral colour palettes
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  that would work with most branding.
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  And we'll introduce new colours each year. So they'll almost be like,
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  you know, the GES colour of the year.
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  These are suggestions. They're not things that we're saying to exhibitors.
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  These are the only colours that are available. But to give people,
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  you know more of an understanding that if their
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  exhibition stand is a little is more considered and the
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  design element has been thought about right from the start they
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  have much more of a an interesting presence on
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  the show floor it's their opportunity to shine
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  and make their brand come to life so so it's that sort
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  of you know that structure to help them to give them
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  that blank canvas to to to bring
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  their brand to life so one thing i noticed penny on the
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  the floor of each of each image and again it might sound trivial in in the scheme
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  of all the work that's gone into designing this system but it there's illuminated
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  looks like led sort of you know strips or something that's around the edge of
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  the the false floor is that you know optional or is that something that you
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  know is is included by default?
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  That's that's it that is something i i
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  think will be included i think you
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  know there's a there's a few things to iron out at the moment because this is obviously you
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  know it's a launch product and and we're sort of finding just that
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  we're prototype we're we've been prototyping things
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  but the flooring was something that we really wanted
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  to look at because rather than just offering a
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  carpeted floor we wanted to offer the option
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  of being able to have sort of cable management integrated
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  so this flooring system is quite a clever flooring system and it
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  has a an integrated cable
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  management tile underneath the actual flooring
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  tile so you don't get any wires or anything so
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  very clever and then it has the strip that
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  goes around the outside takes an led so you
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  can have that illuminated edge all the way around
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  the outside right and how
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  we're offering it is we've got four different options
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  which are all you know give you a nice blank canvas
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  so you've got a wood effect you've got a stone
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  effect a marble effect and and these are all it's a very environmentally friendly
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  flooring system it's made from recycled plastic and it ticked the sustainability
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  box which was which was really really important for us with with all of the
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  elements that we've included in the edit.
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  Because we still see a lot of timber used, don't we, in bespoke stand construction.
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  You know, there's an awful lot, whether it be false floors or building,
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  you know, set flats, that there's an awful lot of timber. And I know that.
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  People will argue that well timber is a sustainable product
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  because it can be reused it's it's a
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  natural product and all the rest of it but if we're
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  being brutally honest how much of it comes up off
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  the show floor at the end of a show and gets dealt with
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  properly we've all seen what it's like during the
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  out of a show everybody just
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  wants to get it ripped up packed up as quickly as possible and get
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  out so having something i suppose it's structured that
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  it almost feels like a really really well-designed lego
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  set something that could be put down quickly deployed in
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  any number of different ways picked up put back
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  in a box and taken off to the next place yeah yeah
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  and that's that was you know the the big
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  thinking behind the edit was that the
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  sustainability was was a key element of
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  the whole design process it was vitally important
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  to me now we have so many materials
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  available to us there is no need for endless
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  truckloads of waste leaving a show floor absolutely no need for it at all and
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  so this is what we wanted to do with the edit was to show exhibitors actually
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  look here is a way of having a beautiful stand that looks like it's a bespoke build but there is.
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  No waste really that come that comes away from
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  from that stand i mean the the graphics are all
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  recycled and we're looking at ways of of even
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  with that finding a way of using a material that
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  has already been recycled and then it is recycled
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  again back into another another fabric the reception
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  desks that were constructed we we constructed them
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  in in a material that is made from
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  recycled paper and again that can it's
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  completely circular it can be recycled again back into
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  sheet material so every element has been been
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  really considered with the sustainability at
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  its key that that was the most important part
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  of the design process for us does that
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  you mentioned earlier about sort of some of the color schemes
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  that you're presenting with these you know these initial visuals yeah
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  and how it's almost sort of very it's it's it's
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  paired back in in some respects you know
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  it's not logos logos logos branding branding branding
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  it's base colors with some branding it looks very very modern it looks very
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  chic like you said very very design-led does does that sort of minimalist approach
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  I suppose to how you're presenting the graphics does that have any any impact
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  on the sustainability element at all does it help if you are printing if something
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  requires less print initially.
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  Not necessarily. I mean, whether we can look at ways of doing that in the future.
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  And this is a project that is going to evolve over time.
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  Like just because we've launched the edit as it is, it doesn't mean that's it.
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  And we're not developing it further.
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  We will always be looking for new materials and new ways of introducing more
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  sustainability into the design.
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  The reason for the pared back graphics is to show an exhibitor,
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  sometimes less is more, and you don't need to absolutely cover every inch with a message.
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  Sometimes you might want a whole wall that's one image, and that's fine.
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  But with messaging and things like that, to pair things back a little bit gives
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  you actually a bit more of an impact.
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  But but one thing that i really want to emphasize
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  with all four designs they are there as a blank
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  canvas so it is it's it's about
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  the product it's about the exhibitor and how they can
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  then turn that into their own space so
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  you know the suggestions we are give we we're giving our
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  suggestions they're not this is what you have to have but uh but hopefully from
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  how we've illustrated and how we've demonstrated what what something can look
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  like it gives people a bit of inspiration and you know adding things in like
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  the you know the the changing color palette each year yeah.
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  Helps people to understand, you know, what's current in interiors,
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  what's current in colour trends.
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  And I don't think that really very many people have been given that opportunity
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  before. So it's quite a nice little added extra.
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  They get a little bonus from me of what the coming trends are.
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  What's the timeline for it from where we speak today, you know, early December 2025?
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  What is the timeline in terms of seeing it
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  you know in the wild if we could well it's it's
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  launched so the sales team are busy working on
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  sales as we speak i believe that there
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  are there's a number of exhibitors that are very very interested
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  in it so i think that we should start seeing things on
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  the floor sort of like early in the new year and
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  and is the intention that that this will be
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  paired with other types of of stand build
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  that you deliver or you know it is
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  the hope that ultimately you can kind of utilize you
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  know one system for for one particular show i've seen
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  examples of that you know sort of delivered and examples of
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  almost i don't know if you could call it a hybrid
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  element but where there's various different types of you know
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  traditional shell and and like the b matrix stuff the amp
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  modular the the show ready you know what's the
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  intention with it so so the the intention is
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  obviously the edit sits within the show ready family and you
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  know we have show ready the originals there's also an
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  enhanced version of show ready where exhibitors can
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  can make something a bit more bespoke so if they want special lighting
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  or they want you know certain type of configuration and then the edit sits sits
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  within that family so you know i think that that's that's the way that that
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  we're going to be marketing it that it it's the it's the upgrade from the shell
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  scheme but you've got these three layers or these three tiers.
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  Which should suit most exhibitors really.
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  And by the sound of things can ultimately all be integrated together fairly seamlessly.
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  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Fantastic. And, you know, developments like this is
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  not just good for exhibitors, but for show operations as well.
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  If GES are taking on more of the build because of options like this being made
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  available to exhibitors, it means exhibitors are not having to rely as much on stand builders.
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  But also particularly i'm thinking that when it comes to traditional shell scheme
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  you've not got exhibitors traipsing in with you know the the coffins on wheels
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  with their own pull-up banners their own graphics and things like that so yeah
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  from a show operations and during that that really critical build period as
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  well developments like this from organizations like gs are ultimately.
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  Serving a huge benefit aren't they to the operations of
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  the organizers yeah of course yeah so it simplifies that
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  whole build process and also for the exhibitors you know if
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  they're if they were going down a bespoke build project
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  they they may have to deal with several different different
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  contractors with this option it's a it's a
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  kind of one-stop shop for them so it makes it a
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  much much less painless experience of
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  just having that one point of contact no absolutely
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  and we should point out that um you know if you
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  want to read in further detail about this everything that we've
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  referred to on today's podcast is very much available you
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  know online i think we're going to put the link up
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  on screen yes insights.ges.com forward
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  slash news insights.ges.com forward
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  slash news if you go there that's kind
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  of the global news page and information for ges and it's the headline story
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  at the moment so you can you can read in further detail about everything that
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  we've spoken about today see those images that we've referred to so yeah once
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  again if you've been listening to this podcast today thanks very much but you
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  know head over go to that url.
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  And go to eventinstualnews.com as well, and you'll be able to see images of
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  everything that we've been referring to today.
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  It's a genuinely exciting development.
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  You know, I've worked with GS and CGS in action at the Event Tech Live show
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  for the last few years since we moved to XL from the old Truman Brewery.
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  And I've seen just how quickly and easily deployed systems like this are.
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  Just how great they look when you've got the graphics on there.
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  It makes a huge difference to the presentability of
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  the show floor and it adds so many different efficiencies on
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  an operational level that i've i've kind of witnessed firsthand so
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  yeah congratulations to you and the team penny on another product
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  coming to market and and something that no doubt is going to
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  have a big big impact in in the coming months and years
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  and i said head out head over to that to that link i'll
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  the edit before we wrap up today's episode i'm
• 23:52
  just going to give a couple of little mentions for some stuff going on
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  on eventindustrynews.com we've recently launched
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  so if you head over to the website that's now available to download
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• 24:23
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• 24:36
  worth another mention of course.
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  Let's not forget that you may have started your journey on the website today.
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  So yes, thank you very much to everybody. And thank you very much today to my guest, Penny Banks,
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  the creative director at GES, for joining us and talking to us
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  about this exciting development and the launch of show
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  ready the edit penny thank you very much for joining us we've got
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  a couple of technical glitches but i'd like to point out that they
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  are nothing to do with my guest today they are fully self-inflicted on my part
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  so if there's any glitches or funny edits in today's episode i'm going to take
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  full responsibility now for it penny thanks very much thank you and uh we will
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  see you all on the next edition of the podcast thanks very much everybody goodbye Bye-bye.