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Speaker 1: Is the good report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, A pack show on a dramatic day when Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump rocked the world, rocked Australia with tariffs on all
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Speaker 2: the imports, some of them crippling to some countries and
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Speaker 2: some bizarre, But so much of the coverage is missing
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Speaker 2: the critical message here to us. We'll also talked then
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Speaker 2: to Barnaby, Joyce and Moore. Also tonight, a second Hanson
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Speaker 2: joins One Nation to run in this election. Pauline's daughter Lee.
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Speaker 2: Interesting woman. I'll talk to them both, and asked me
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Speaker 2: why on earth she's running when she's seen what's being
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Speaker 2: done to her mother. Also the lies and the stumbles
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Speaker 2: of this campaign and the latest nasty battle in the
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Speaker 2: post of War in the seat of tal MP's Manique
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Speaker 2: Ryan and Prince Harry bo Way is in even deeper
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Speaker 2: trouble in the brawl with a woman calling him racist.
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Speaker 2: But first, this reaction to Donald Trump and his tariffs today,
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Speaker 2: and most of it, I've got to say, has been
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Speaker 2: a bit stupid, certainly simplistic, completely missing the point the
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Speaker 2: challenge that Trump has shoved in our face, shoved in
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Speaker 2: the face of a country that's got poorer and weaker.
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Speaker 2: But all day It was like some matcho competition. Who's
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Speaker 2: the guy that can stand up to the US prison
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Speaker 2: albo or doesn't fight fight fight, Which one of them
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Speaker 2: can make? Trump exempt Australia alone from the towns. It's
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Speaker 2: just impost on every other country, the huge shock to
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Speaker 2: the world's economy, what looks like a fit of madness.
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Speaker 3: April second, twenty twenty five will forever be remembered as
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Speaker 3: the day American industry was reborn, the day America's destiny
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Speaker 3: was reclaimed, and the day that we began to make
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Speaker 3: America wealthy again, going to make it wealthy, good and welfare.
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Speaker 3: For decades, our country has been looted, pillage, raped, and
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Speaker 3: plundered by nations near and far, both friend and foe alike.
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Speaker 2: Trump even single out Australia is one of those countries
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Speaker 2: supposedly looting and pillaging America, a country to be punished
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Speaker 2: with tariffs now on exports to the US.
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Speaker 3: Australia bands and they're wonderful people and wonderful everything, but
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Speaker 3: they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars
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Speaker 3: of Australian beef from them just last year alone.
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Speaker 4: They won't take any of our beef.
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Speaker 2: So did I it was. Oh you see Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: has picked on us Albanize he must be so weak.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, Dutton is so weak. Both me to
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Speaker 2: Sadai attacked the other. You your week and attract attack
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Speaker 2: Trump as an enemy of Australia.
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Speaker 5: For Australia, these tariffs are not unexpected, but let me
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Speaker 5: be clear, they are totally unwarranted. President Trump referred to
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Speaker 5: reciprocal tariffs. A reciprocal tariff would be zero, not ten percent.
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Speaker 5: The Administration's tariffs have no basis in logic, and they
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Speaker 5: go against the basis of our two nations partnership.
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Speaker 1: This is not the act of a friend.
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Speaker 6: This is a bad day for our country and it's
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Speaker 6: not the treatment that Austrains deserve because we have a
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Speaker 6: very trusted, long standing and abiding relationship with the United States.
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Speaker 6: It spans one hundred years, and we have fought alongside
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Speaker 6: and with the Americans in every major battle over that
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Speaker 6: period of time. We have a special relationship with the
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Speaker 6: United States and it hasn't been treated with respect by
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Speaker 6: the administration or by the President.
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Speaker 2: Quickly deal with the tribal politics today for labor, it's
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Speaker 2: another great chance. Of course, the typeid Donald Trump as
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Speaker 2: if Dutlin is on Trump side, which of course is
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Speaker 2: another labor lie. But I'd have to say it's a
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Speaker 2: lie that now looks like it will cost the election.
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Speaker 5: What I'd like is com petted Dutton is sent up
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Speaker 5: for Australia.
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Speaker 2: Nonsense, of course, But for the Liberals, these tarts are
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Speaker 2: another sign of Albanese's weakness, not even being able to
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Speaker 2: get a phone call through to Trump before this announcement.
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Speaker 2: And that's, of course it is true. But the idea
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Speaker 2: that the Liberals could have saved Australia when Albanize could
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Speaker 2: not is wrong, flat wrong. I mean a sixty countries
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Speaker 2: were hit harder than us, with tarifs higher than ten percent,
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Speaker 2: some anything up to fifty percent. We're just in with
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Speaker 2: all every other country all hit by ten percent tariff,
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Speaker 2: so we weren't picked on. But Dutton is on stronger
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Speaker 2: grounds to say, well, look, Trump is now waiting for
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Speaker 2: every country to make him an counter offer to get
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Speaker 2: off his list. And Dunton suggested that we use our
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Speaker 2: military alliance daring in our rare earths, although he wasn't
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Speaker 2: clear how.
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Speaker 6: I think there can be a deal done very quickly.
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Speaker 6: The core of an arrangement between US and the United
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Speaker 6: States in resolving this matter will center around the defense relationship.
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Speaker 6: The critical minerals that I spoke about again in my
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Speaker 6: speech in January is an absolute must do in the relationship.
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Speaker 2: If it might work or it might not. And I
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Speaker 2: guess we'll see. I know, maybe maybe Dunton would be
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Speaker 2: able to get through to Trump easier than those Trump
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Speaker 2: haters in Labor. Maybe. So that's what most of the
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Speaker 2: commentary today has been about. Now let me repeat that's
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Speaker 2: actually a pretty a trent way of dealing with what's
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Speaker 2: actually happened today, and it is certainly beside the main point.
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Speaker 2: That main point is not which leader is going to
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Speaker 2: stand up to Trump. Both will tray. It is who
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Speaker 2: will make Australia now stronger economically and militarily because Trump
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Speaker 2: has just proved that we are in a world where
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Speaker 2: you cannot rely on your friends, either in trade or
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Speaker 2: in war. You look how the US is abandoning Ukraine,
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Speaker 2: attacking Europe, threatened to take Greenland from Denmark, and how
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Speaker 2: these tariffs we are now in trouble. The tariff's on
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Speaker 2: our own exports of the US. So they're not going
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Speaker 2: to hurt that much. We're just five percent of our
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Speaker 2: exports go there, and this tariff is ten percent. That's
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Speaker 2: not going to stop them all, particularly not with meat.
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Speaker 2: I mean, America shorten me. They'll keep buying it. They
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Speaker 2: just have to pay more for their burgers. The real
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Speaker 2: problem for us is this. All the countries that take
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Speaker 2: most of our exports, more than half of them, have
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Speaker 2: been hit much harder by Trump. Today, Chinese exports will
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Speaker 2: get a thirty four percent tariff on top of the
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Speaker 2: earlier twenty percent he hit them with, Japan twenty four percent,
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Speaker 2: South Korea twenty five, India twenty six. Now we send
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Speaker 2: those countries and other countries the gas and the coal
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Speaker 2: and the own or that they need to make things.
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Speaker 2: That's our Is there our main exports, and if Trump's
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Speaker 2: tariffs forced them to make less stuff, they will want
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Speaker 2: less of the stuff from us to make them. Are
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Speaker 2: they our top export earners? And that could really hurt us.
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Speaker 2: That could really hurt us when we've already got such
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Speaker 2: weak growth and productivity. And that's why, of course stock
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Speaker 2: marks around the world went down, and why our own
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Speaker 2: lost twenty billion dollars a year hold of value. Now
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Speaker 2: the premise today said two things to show a real
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Speaker 2: blindness to this strife that we're now in. One is this, oh,
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Speaker 2: don't worry too much of our exporters lose the US market.
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Speaker 5: No nation is better prepared than Australia for what has
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Speaker 5: occurred today. For three years, my government has been working
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Speaker 5: to make Australia's economy more resilient and our exports more diverse.
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Speaker 2: Well that's not true. As I've worn for quite a
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Speaker 2: long time now, this government has actually made us more
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Speaker 2: dependent on communists China, nearly a third of our exports
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Speaker 2: bouncing back since China lifted its trade bands on us.
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Speaker 2: So we're not that diverse. The premise that also.
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Speaker 5: Said this, just as we're already encouraging more people to
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Speaker 5: buy Australian, our labor government will buy Australian too.
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Speaker 2: That's actually pretty useless advice. I'm afraid it is true
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Speaker 2: that when you know I was born, you could buy Australian.
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Speaker 2: You could buy Australian cars and Australian made machinery, and
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Speaker 2: Australian fridge and Australian washing machines, Australian plastics and glass,
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Speaker 2: and cameras and shirts and resident, tools and toys and
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Speaker 2: so much more. Because back then manufacturing was nearly thirty
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Speaker 2: percent of our economy, thirty percent today just five percent.
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Speaker 2: We have hollowed out our economy. It's been made worse
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Speaker 2: by the insane power prices because of the green policies
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Speaker 2: of successive governance. We just lost the last manufacturer of
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Speaker 2: glass for housing, for instance, partly because of that, our
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Speaker 2: big plastics manufacturer, same deal. That's why we now even
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Speaker 2: import steel, can you believe it? And iron, even though
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Speaker 2: we've got mountains of coal and iron ore to make
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Speaker 2: it ourselves. So the question now is not who will
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Speaker 2: stand up to Trump Trump, It is who will make
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Speaker 2: this country stronger, especially when this government has collapsed our
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Speaker 2: living standards, which leader now, when we're more alone than ever,
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Speaker 2: will make our economy stronger and our defense stronger and
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Speaker 2: you more safe. Joining me is Steve Hamilton, Assistant Professor
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Speaker 2: of Economics, George Watching the University, an Australian. Stephen Hamilton,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us. What are these
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Speaker 2: extraordinary tariffs going to do for a start to Australia.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think the direct impact on Australia is
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Speaker 7: going to be very small. And that's just because we
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Speaker 7: don't trade that much with the US, right So one,
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Speaker 7: you know, the Trump administration has put the lowest tariff
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Speaker 7: on Australia of ten percent. We don't have a big
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Speaker 7: trading relationship. The small amount of damage that will do
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Speaker 7: to us, we'll be able to find other markets for
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Speaker 7: those products. So I really don't worry too much about
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Speaker 7: the direct effect. Much more important for Australia is sort
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Speaker 7: of other impacts, indirect impacts. You know, we're seeing huge
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Speaker 7: tariffs put on our major trading partners, which will obviously
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Speaker 7: affect US dramatically. And also I think the chance of
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Speaker 7: the US recession has increase dramatically as a result of this,
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Speaker 7: and that could have a flow on effect to Australia. Now,
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Speaker 7: the one positive for Australia a bit perversely is that
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Speaker 7: if these China, Vietnam, these countries that have been hit
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Speaker 7: with big tariffs end up having a glut of goods
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Speaker 7: that they can't center the US, they could flood Australia
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Speaker 7: with those goods, which obviously would make the inflation problem
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Speaker 7: disappear pretty quickly. It could kind of loosen the supply
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Speaker 7: constraints in the Australian economy and maybe lead to the
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Speaker 7: RBA cutting rates more quickly than they otherwise would have.
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Speaker 2: The thing is, though I agree with that. The thing is,
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Speaker 2: though our big trading partners in China, Japan, South Korea, India,
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Speaker 2: they all been hit much much harder by Trump than
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Speaker 2: we have by the tariffs. We sell them actually things
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Speaker 2: that their manufacturers need. This is our vulnerability, gas coal, iron, ore.
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Speaker 2: So if their economy is a hit, that's got to
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Speaker 2: be able to hurt us a fair bit. I would
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Speaker 2: have thought, no question.
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Speaker 7: I mean China, they've been posted thirty five percent tariff
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Speaker 7: I think on China, but that comes on top of
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Speaker 7: the other tariffs. It's not instead of right, so the
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Speaker 7: combined tariffs on China are reaching sort of sixty percent. Right,
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Speaker 7: So we're going to get to a point pretty soon
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Speaker 7: that really any trade between the US and China won't
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Speaker 7: be possible. And obviously, as you said, we send gas,
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Speaker 7: iron or coal by the shipload to China, and there's
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Speaker 7: there's no way around that.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 7: If those countries need less of our resources, we're going
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Speaker 7: to send them less. We get a big negative hit
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Speaker 7: to our economy, and you know that could that could
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Speaker 7: be serious.
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Speaker 2: I saw the this is This is I think is
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Speaker 2: a really troubling thing about what Donald Trump is doing
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Speaker 2: by disrupting things, by hurting allies like this, he's driving
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Speaker 2: countries into the arms of China, and in particular that
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Speaker 2: photograph a couple of days ago of trade representatives from China,
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Speaker 2: It's traditional enemy, Japan, and another country that invaded South Korea,
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Speaker 2: these three countries joining together to talk about some sort
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Speaker 2: of mutual trade pact or arrangement. Does Trump know that
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Speaker 2: it's forming and making countries form alliances with a country
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Speaker 2: considers its chief rival.
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Speaker 7: Look, I think that obviously is very bad. But you know,
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Speaker 7: it could cause a recession in the US. It's going
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Speaker 7: to lead to a big reduction in America's long run
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Speaker 7: growth rate, right if we put the list of negatives
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Speaker 7: that this policy is going to generate for the US
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Speaker 7: economy and then not even get to the geo strategic questions,
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Speaker 7: you know, pushing your friends into the arms of your enemy.
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Speaker 7: I mean, you can't imagine that this is a rational
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Speaker 7: decision making process. No rational decision making process whatever have
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Speaker 7: led to this outcome. I mean, you're probably the same
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Speaker 7: as me, Andrew. I think I thought it was a bluff.
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Speaker 7: I thought it was a bargaining chip and negotiating tactics,
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Speaker 7: something to force other countries to kind of give America
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Speaker 7: for a fair deal. But I think we're realizing now
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Speaker 7: it's not.
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Speaker 2: That well yet, give up dwindling hope that it is
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Speaker 2: a bargaining tactic. Trump suggests it as much in his
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Speaker 2: statement that you could come back and negotiate, But my
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Speaker 2: faith that is falling. There's one further thing about this.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned that we could get a glut of product
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Speaker 2: from countries hit by these tariffs going to Australia instead
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Speaker 2: from Vietnam or whatever, which has got hit by I
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Speaker 2: think nearly fifty percent tariffs. The point is we actually
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Speaker 2: had the Prime Minister today say our best reaction will
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Speaker 2: be to buy Australian We'll make almost nothing of our
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Speaker 2: consumer goods now. Manufacturing makes up about five percent of
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Speaker 2: our GDP. Now this, if that is the reaction, we're
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Speaker 2: going to be making even less. We're going to have
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Speaker 2: our manufacturing even under even more pressure. Yeah.
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Speaker 7: So here's I think two things about this, Andrew. One,
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Speaker 7: I think the rest of the world needs to respond
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Speaker 7: to this with more cooperation, more engagement, more trade liberalization,
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Speaker 7: because that is how you need to respond, right, you
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Speaker 7: need to find alternative partners for the things that you
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Speaker 7: produce and that you want to buy. I think that's
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Speaker 7: absolutely what we should do. Secondly, you know, we need
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Speaker 7: to get serious about getting the Australian economy growing again.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 7: We haven't grown in the last decade, hardly at all.
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Speaker 7: We've been in this period of stagnation. We've had great complacency.
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Speaker 7: This might be a wake up call to start to
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Speaker 7: think seriously about growth prospects and the kinds of reforms
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Speaker 7: tax reform, I our reform, you know, to get our
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Speaker 7: economy more productive and to get our economy going again.
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Speaker 2: It is absolutely critical that it is that wake up
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Speaker 2: call that we have to get stronger. Stephen Hamilton, thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for your terrific insights. To really appreciate
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Speaker 2: that pleasure. Mate. I've got to say, there are a
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Speaker 2: couple of things about Donald Trump's list of tariffs that
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Speaker 2: are very odd. One is that one country not on
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's listive countries is going to hit with tariffs
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Speaker 2: is Russia. And that's sick now the White House, I'll
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Speaker 2: say that's because the US has already got sanctions against
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Speaker 2: trade with Russia. But there's more things, mainly wonder if
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Speaker 2: this is a list actually put together not by humans
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Speaker 2: but artificial intelligence. Steve Hamilton was telling me earlier that
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Speaker 2: month that was a theory he had. For instance, why
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Speaker 2: is Tony Lesotho in Africa the worst hit tariff of
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Speaker 2: tiny Lesotho? A wise, Norfolk Island, which is an Australian
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Speaker 2: territory hit with a separate twenty nine percent tariff, much
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Speaker 2: higher than the mainlands. Trump's lists even names Australia's Heard
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Speaker 2: and MacDonald Islands that's remote and uninhabited Australian territory, four
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Speaker 2: thousand kilometers southwest of Perth, not inhabited apart from the
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Speaker 2: penguins and the seals. I don't think they're exporting anything
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Speaker 2: to the US that we know about. How could these
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Speaker 2: islands get on the list? How much thought human thought
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Speaker 2: has actually gone into these tariffs that are now rocking
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Speaker 2: the world. Before I get to the break, something that's
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Speaker 2: got to be called out. We're not even a week
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Speaker 2: into this election campaign and Labor already takes the prize
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Speaker 2: for the most dishonest campaign I've ever seen. I've given
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Speaker 2: a few examples already, but this is probably the worst.
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Speaker 2: Albanize all this week has been flashy is Medicare card
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Speaker 2: and claiming Peter Dunton wants to cut it up? Just
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Speaker 2: claiming in social media that Peter Dun't wants to cut Medicare,
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Speaker 2: claiming that Dunn't wants to cut your medicare, that you
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Speaker 2: face cuts to Medicare with Peter Dutton, which is an
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Speaker 2: outright lie from the government, mind you that has wanted
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Speaker 2: to have new misinformation laws to control what you say
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Speaker 2: and punish you for misinformation. Dutton has not made one
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Speaker 2: single promise to cut Medicare. The opposite has matched the
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Speaker 2: government's funding but even improved it, added money to reverse
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Speaker 2: the cut that Alwen easy made to the number of
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Speaker 2: psychology sessions that the poor can claim on medicare. Why
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Speaker 2: does the media not ask Alban easy Way tell such
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Speaker 2: a bald faced lie until it so often it's a
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Speaker 2: feeding frenzy At the moment Peter Dunton's press conference journals
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Speaker 2: trying got your questions. But this needs to be asked
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Speaker 2: after the break of the new poor in Hanson or
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Speaker 2: the a Pauline Hanson like figure with the name of Hanson,
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Speaker 2: who's standing for election a daughter Lee. I'll talk to
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Speaker 2: them both after this. Pauline Hanson was forty one when
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Speaker 2: she first got into politics, studying in local government before
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Speaker 2: being elected to the Senate, where her first speech caused
19:20
Speaker 2: a sensation attacking mass immigration. Wow did she copy it?
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Speaker 2: She says, of course, been called a racist. She's been smeared, abused,
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Speaker 2: even jailed on false charges. Would you believe recently punished
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Speaker 2: too for how she criticized the Greens senator and what
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Speaker 2: I think was a terrible court judgment. So imagine my
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Speaker 2: surprise to here today that her daughter, Lee in the
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Speaker 2: middle here when she was young, has decided now to
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Speaker 2: also go into politics, and at the very same age
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Speaker 2: as when her mother did. Lee Hanson is a human
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Speaker 2: resources expert now running for the Senate as a One
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Speaker 2: Nation candidate in Tasmania after a career at the University
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Speaker 2: of Tasmania and hundred Tasmania. Lee and a mother Pauline
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Speaker 2: join me now. Welcome to you both. But Lee, I
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Speaker 2: have to say, You've got to tell me this after
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Speaker 2: everything that was done to your mother, and I've chronicled
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Speaker 2: a lot over the years, the abuse, the jail on
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Speaker 2: bogus charges. Why would you decide you want to go
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Speaker 2: to politics too?
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Speaker 8: I know a good question, right, Mum has actually been
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Speaker 8: asking me for at least ten years and the answer
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Speaker 8: is no, no, not an option, not me. Why would
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Speaker 8: I seeing what you've been through? You got rocks in
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Speaker 8: your head, not my pathway. But I suppose reaching you know,
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Speaker 8: as you said, I'm forty one years of age.
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Speaker 9: Now I've had more life experience.
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Speaker 8: I've got two kids, Tazzy born children living here in Tazzi,
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Speaker 8: and in the thirteen years I've been living in Tasmania,
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Speaker 8: I have seen how much change within our community during
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Speaker 8: that time that I feel I don't have a choice anymore.
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Speaker 8: I need to stand up. I need to.
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Speaker 9: Do this for my children and our children's future.
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Speaker 8: Because I just I don't see a successful future for them,
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Speaker 8: and it has been greatly concerned. So here I am
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Speaker 8: give it a go.
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Speaker 2: Well, I can understand your frustration because it scares the
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Speaker 2: whatever out of me to see what's happening to this country.
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Speaker 2: But Pauline, does it worry you? You know, I've seen
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Speaker 2: you almost destroyed. I've seen you in tears a few times.
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Speaker 2: I've been horrified by what's been done to you. Does
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Speaker 2: it worry you that people, journalists, judges are going to
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Speaker 2: do to your daughter what they have done to you.
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Speaker 10: I don't think it'll be the same to the same
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Speaker 10: extentis what I've been through. Andrew Lee is a very strong,
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Speaker 10: tenacious woman, free thinking independent and you know, these are
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Speaker 10: the type of.
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Speaker 9: People that we know.
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Speaker 10: And I'm or a parliament She wouldn't behold the position
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Speaker 10: being number one on the Senate to in Tasmania if
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Speaker 10: I didn't think she had the capabilities of doing that job.
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Speaker 10: And if we're going to pull this country out of
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Speaker 10: the mess that we're in, we need strong people there.
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Speaker 10: I'm proud of her, and yes she's going to get
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Speaker 10: a Knox. We've had those few comments already and I
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Speaker 10: disregard them. And we have to stand strong with this
22:24
Speaker 10: and just move forward and try and make change and
22:27
Speaker 10: have a voice for the people in Tasmania, not only
22:30
Speaker 10: as Tasmania but across the country who feel they're not
22:33
Speaker 10: being listened to. And it's only through putting up different
22:35
Speaker 10: ideas and opinions and debating the issues can we find
22:38
Speaker 10: a pathway for the future generations.
22:43
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about your background and what
22:45
Speaker 2: kind of politician that would make you.
22:51
Speaker 8: I'm certainly not a career politician, Andrew So. I have
22:56
Speaker 8: worked in a range of industries hospitality to durism, real
23:01
Speaker 8: estate before I moved to Tasmania, and since I've been here,
23:04
Speaker 8: I've been very fortunate to work my way up into
23:07
Speaker 8: a number of senior leadership roles within higher education, water
23:10
Speaker 8: and sewerage corporation as well as recently hydro. So I've
23:15
Speaker 8: worked within complicated bureaucratic systems. I have a background in HR,
23:21
Speaker 8: but I soon quickly became even though I thought I'd
23:25
Speaker 8: spend my time in HR, became recognized as what the
23:28
Speaker 8: fix it person I had the capability of really trying
23:33
Speaker 8: to understand and get to the root causes or what's
23:36
Speaker 8: the problems and what's the issues and work collaboratively with
23:39
Speaker 8: other people to develop long term solutions, innovation strategy, you know,
23:44
Speaker 8: everything from how do we make our business more financially
23:47
Speaker 8: viable or just get rid of the red tape as
23:51
Speaker 8: simple as that, how do we run more effective systems?
23:54
Speaker 8: So each of those businesses in Tasmania are large organizations
23:59
Speaker 8: on the ground, real jobs, working with real people here
24:03
Speaker 8: in Tasmania.
24:03
Speaker 9: And that's the difference I offer.
24:05
Speaker 8: You know, I've recently learned that about eighty four percent,
24:08
Speaker 8: if I understand correctly, of our politicians or career politicians,
24:12
Speaker 8: they haven't worked in real jobs.
24:13
Speaker 9: And that's the different I off I hear from Tasmania.
24:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Hydro Tasmania is an excellent organization. I believe
24:22
Speaker 2: it's chairman is a superb individual. The fact that my
24:25
Speaker 2: brother has got nothing to do with it? What makes
24:30
Speaker 2: you different from your mother?
24:35
Speaker 8: A lot there we go, but not a lot And
24:39
Speaker 8: I know that sounds contradictory.
24:41
Speaker 9: Look, you know, mum's a single mother.
24:43
Speaker 8: We were brought up old traditional family values. It was
24:46
Speaker 8: hard yards growing and growing up and seeing what one
24:49
Speaker 8: went through to your point. But at the same token,
24:52
Speaker 8: as a young woman raised being raised by a strong, independent, tenacious,
24:57
Speaker 8: the most resilient woman you could possibly have in this country,
25:01
Speaker 8: it has taught me to be exactly that. You know,
25:03
Speaker 8: I've learned from the best in regards to when to
25:06
Speaker 8: speak up. When do you need to have a voice,
25:08
Speaker 8: When do you see your people around you that don't
25:10
Speaker 8: have the confidence or feel they can speak up and
25:12
Speaker 8: you need to be the voice for them. So I
25:14
Speaker 8: have a lot of similarities like my mother, which I'm
25:17
Speaker 8: thankful that she's taught me and I'm proud of her
25:20
Speaker 8: for that and I honor that. But at the same token,
25:22
Speaker 8: I'm very different to my mother. You know, we have
25:25
Speaker 8: a joke and a laugh that I'm far more diplomatic
25:27
Speaker 8: than my mother.
25:28
Speaker 9: I'm not as polarizing as my mother.
25:31
Speaker 8: I'm probably a little bit softer in my delivery than
25:34
Speaker 8: my mother, but I've still got the passion and drive
25:36
Speaker 8: that my mother has, the fight in me. So a
25:39
Speaker 8: lot of similarities, but yes, certainly some differences too.
25:43
Speaker 2: But it puts you in a bit of a position. Pauline,
25:47
Speaker 2: you are the leader of the party. Your daughter is
25:49
Speaker 2: a hopeful politician in your party. What if she decides
25:54
Speaker 2: to go her own way politically on some issue. Who
25:57
Speaker 2: is a final say who's boss, mum or daughter.
26:02
Speaker 9: No, it's a team effort.
26:03
Speaker 10: As I say to all my elected members of Parliament,
26:05
Speaker 10: you must represent your constituency. And I don't tell my
26:09
Speaker 10: elected members in Wa, South Australia or Victoria how they
26:13
Speaker 10: should vote on issues. You have to represent your state
26:16
Speaker 10: and Lee will have that opportunity as well to decide
26:21
Speaker 10: what is best for Tasmania. We are a team effort
26:24
Speaker 10: and I don't put people up to be candidates for
26:26
Speaker 10: one nation if we're not like minded.
26:28
Speaker 4: In our views.
26:29
Speaker 10: You can't agree on everything, but we sit down and
26:33
Speaker 10: talk about it, and before we deal with legislation in parliament,
26:36
Speaker 10: we have a meeting with our advisors and Senator Roberts
26:40
Speaker 10: and previously with the other senators and we discuss the legislation.
26:44
Speaker 10: We have our say about that. Then we come to
26:46
Speaker 10: a conclusive agreement and how we're going to deal with
26:50
Speaker 10: that piece of legislation, how we're going to vote with it,
26:52
Speaker 10: so everyone has their say.
26:57
Speaker 2: Pulling Just in case people were thinking I was being
27:00
Speaker 2: off hand about my brother, I'm actually as proud as
27:03
Speaker 2: punch with his career. I mean it's just a refer
27:07
Speaker 2: we don't say politically obviously on things necessarily, but he's
27:11
Speaker 2: a great guy. How proud are you and your daughter
27:14
Speaker 2: doing this?
27:17
Speaker 10: You have no idea. I don't think people will understand.
27:19
Speaker 10: You know, they have been through a hell of a lot.
27:21
Speaker 10: And I've been a single mother since nineteen eighty seven
27:24
Speaker 10: and Lee was what four at that time, eighty born
27:27
Speaker 10: in eighty three, so you know, They've had to do
27:30
Speaker 10: it tough. They've seen me go through prison, and you know,
27:34
Speaker 10: they've had to stand on their own two feet because
27:36
Speaker 10: I couldn't always be there for them. And I think
27:38
Speaker 10: because they've had to take on responsibilities that other children
27:44
Speaker 10: didn't have to do, taught them, taught them that resilience,
27:47
Speaker 10: to be independent, to stand on their own two feet,
27:50
Speaker 10: and that's why I'm proud of them. I'm very proud
27:52
Speaker 10: of her. And to stand beside her on the floor
27:55
Speaker 10: of Parliament, you know, it's wonderful. And I remember my
27:59
Speaker 10: mother saying to me when she saw Miss worn in parliament.
28:02
Speaker 10: She said, she said, Darling, she said, if I was younger,
28:05
Speaker 10: she said, I'd be the right there beside you. So
28:07
Speaker 10: I knew how my mother felt about being with me,
28:10
Speaker 10: and that's how I felt about my daughter. And I
28:13
Speaker 10: think she's got all the qualifications, all the capabilities of
28:16
Speaker 10: making a great representative for the state of Tasmania.
28:21
Speaker 4: Lea.
28:22
Speaker 2: I was going to wrap up there, but I just
28:24
Speaker 2: want to ask you something because I think what was
28:27
Speaker 2: done to Pauline with that jailing. I mean, it was
28:29
Speaker 2: a later overturned I know that, but it was so
28:32
Speaker 2: wrong at the time. You were a young wo you know,
28:36
Speaker 2: you were quite young. Then your mother gets hauled off
28:39
Speaker 2: to jail. How did you feel at the time.
28:43
Speaker 9: Oh, it was horrifying.
28:45
Speaker 8: I remember I was in a holiday in New Zealand
28:48
Speaker 8: at the time and the care case. No one expected
28:52
Speaker 8: the outcome at the time. On your holiday, it all's fine,
28:55
Speaker 8: and next minute I get a call. So yes, it
28:59
Speaker 8: was devastating. It was unfathomable. I couldn't understand, and not
29:05
Speaker 8: just the decision, but to see someone your parents hope
29:09
Speaker 8: that you love and respect it Admira and Door who's
29:11
Speaker 8: always been there for you, to suddenly be in the
29:14
Speaker 8: worst time of their life, at the most rock bottom stage.
29:21
Speaker 8: You know what she had to physically and mentally go through. Yeah,
29:24
Speaker 8: I was not just the impact of me, but seeing
29:27
Speaker 8: that the physical and emotional impact on my mother, not
29:30
Speaker 8: just during the time, but you know, the recovery through
29:33
Speaker 8: that as well.
29:34
Speaker 9: But it also for.
29:36
Speaker 8: Someone to come through that and how they came out
29:39
Speaker 8: the other end of that taught me a hell of
29:41
Speaker 8: a lot too. So yeah, it was hard, but it
29:45
Speaker 8: was a lesson itself as well about strength.
29:47
Speaker 10: We all have her ups and down and I'm not
29:52
Speaker 10: the only one.
29:52
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, that's true. The best revenge is living well,
29:57
Speaker 2: they say. But I think an even better revenge is
30:00
Speaker 2: that you stand still in Parliament and may have your
30:03
Speaker 2: daughter beside you. That would be icing on the cake.
30:07
Speaker 2: Liam Pauling Hanson, thank you very much to.
30:09
Speaker 9: You both, Thank you very much.
30:12
Speaker 2: Good now, just quickly, another campaign stumbled from Anthony Albanezi
30:18
Speaker 2: today posing for photos at a campaign event.
30:21
Speaker 11: Mister Albineazy has unfortunately fallen off a stage. He was
30:25
Speaker 11: posing for photographs after delivering a speech. You can see
30:28
Speaker 11: there he fell down. He was helped up by some
30:31
Speaker 11: of the folk there attending.
30:34
Speaker 2: So he fell. You know, let's not treat it like
30:36
Speaker 2: people treated John Howe when he fell off a stage
30:40
Speaker 2: in his first successful election campaign. It's just it's just
30:44
Speaker 2: an accident. It's not an omen and the good news
30:47
Speaker 2: that is all right. I was just a bit curious
30:48
Speaker 2: that he insisted on saying that he didn't fall. Well,
30:53
Speaker 2: you saw what you saw. And then there were the
30:55
Speaker 2: climate protests disrupting their fourth campaign event so far when
30:59
Speaker 2: Albanize was touring hospital today. Know the hysterics as if
31:03
Speaker 2: the produces really do think the climate has turned lethal.
31:05
Speaker 2: I mean seriously, and the arrogance as well as if
31:09
Speaker 2: they're entitled to hijack someone else's event and shout and
31:12
Speaker 2: carry on like brats.
31:14
Speaker 10: If corn Cap company on the line, I want to say, children.
31:26
Speaker 7: Expansion WHI crisis is the greatest health threat.
31:36
Speaker 1: Of Australia.
31:37
Speaker 2: It's going to just tell you you're making your cause sound deranged.
31:43
Speaker 2: After the break Barnaby Joyce and the postal war in Kyong,
31:47
Speaker 2: it just got even uglier. I mean, why is the
31:49
Speaker 2: left so intolerant post of war in the Melbourne electorate
32:02
Speaker 2: of Couyong. It's getting wild in fact today very nasty.
32:07
Speaker 2: We've alreally seen the husband of Monique Ryan, the TLMP
32:10
Speaker 2: there for Couyong the court, stealing a sign of Ryan's
32:15
Speaker 2: liberal opponent Amelia Hamer, and Ryan herself then snapping a
32:18
Speaker 2: journalist who just asking if she was sorry. And all
32:22
Speaker 2: that of course opened another front of the post of
32:24
Speaker 2: war that we've covered, new posters popping up next to
32:27
Speaker 2: Amelia high Hamer's signs saying please Monique, do not take
32:30
Speaker 2: this sign. But out of something less funny, a former
32:34
Speaker 2: mayor in that area, Jane Addis, decided well this time
32:37
Speaker 2: she would put up and Amelia Hamer sign herself at
32:40
Speaker 2: her house. It was stolen that us put up another
32:44
Speaker 2: sign asking it not to be done again. In turn,
32:48
Speaker 2: the second sign was vandalized, and that has got a
32:50
Speaker 2: vile letter in a letterbox threatening her, actually threatening her
32:54
Speaker 2: and calling her the C word, a NATSI and even worse, it.
32:58
Speaker 12: Said some fairly unpleasant things things about I suppose really
33:02
Speaker 12: about me, and I suspect they don't know who I am.
33:05
Speaker 12: They might, but yeah, fairly unpleasant allegations about racist and
33:11
Speaker 12: Nazi and various swear words. In many ways, my friends
33:15
Speaker 12: were more unsettled by it than I was. They encouraged
33:19
Speaker 12: me to go to the police, which I did.
33:24
Speaker 2: And again you've got to ask, why is this kind
33:26
Speaker 2: of intolerance and savagery so common now among the left
33:30
Speaker 2: to then parade themselves as more moral than now? I mean,
33:34
Speaker 2: what has gone wrong with the culture of the leftter
33:36
Speaker 2: Was it always like this? I mean it's Russian revolution, okay,
33:41
Speaker 2: French revolution maybe anyway, I hope the voters of Kuyong
33:45
Speaker 2: vote no to bullies. But to my first A regular guest,
33:50
Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, the Nationals Front benure and former Deputy Prime
33:53
Speaker 2: minister Barnaby, really great to see you. But Donald Trump, oh,
34:00
Speaker 2: we need daylight saving. I think we need daylight saving
34:02
Speaker 2: to come in Barnaby. Donald Trump complains that we ban
34:07
Speaker 2: imports of fresh meat from uncooked meat from the US
34:12
Speaker 2: and we say this too much danger of importing mouth
34:14
Speaker 2: mad cow disease. But Americans seem to eat their beef
34:17
Speaker 2: without getting sick. And Donald Trump got a point.
34:21
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
34:23
Speaker 13: I look, our biosecurity is so incredibly important to us,
34:27
Speaker 13: and remember the issues with Johnny Depp and bringing in
34:31
Speaker 13: the teacup dogs. If one of our great exports is
34:38
Speaker 13: our food, which is green and clean, and we don't
34:42
Speaker 13: want to lose that aspect of our exports. Just on
34:45
Speaker 13: this tower side, I don't know how to go to go.
34:49
Speaker 13: We have what we send to the United States generally
34:52
Speaker 13: lean beef it's not quite finished, or your fats, and
34:55
Speaker 13: I'm going to a sale tomorrow.
34:56
Speaker 4: I'll see how the sale goes in town. With big
34:59
Speaker 4: store sale.
35:01
Speaker 13: The stuff that's fat generally goes to you Australian's edit,
35:05
Speaker 13: and stuff that's not quite up to the mark gets
35:07
Speaker 13: ground up heads over to the United States and they
35:11
Speaker 13: use it with their fats.
35:13
Speaker 4: And goes into the hamburger.
35:14
Speaker 13: So the stuff that's not quite right, not quite finished,
35:18
Speaker 13: as we say, it becomes part of the process that
35:21
Speaker 13: goes in with the American fat meat and goes into hamburgers,
35:25
Speaker 13: and it actually helps the Americans get a greater premium
35:30
Speaker 13: on their fat meat. So I think there's a lot
35:34
Speaker 13: more thought that needs to go into this, but we'll
35:37
Speaker 13: see how things pan out.
35:40
Speaker 4: Trade wars don't work in the end.
35:43
Speaker 13: You know who pays for this, of course, is keep
35:45
Speaker 13: the citizens of the United States of America.
35:47
Speaker 4: We don't pay for it. They pay for it, and
35:49
Speaker 4: they pay for it on the hamburgers and everything else
35:51
Speaker 4: that they eat.
35:52
Speaker 13: That is not going to help people trying to get
35:55
Speaker 13: the cost of living to put up the price of food,
35:58
Speaker 13: and America is all says, struggling with a big drought
36:01
Speaker 13: and there's a big loss of their herd, and Australia
36:07
Speaker 13: assists in that process. So, you know, I don't know
36:12
Speaker 13: whether President Trump's got a position or a point. He's
36:16
Speaker 13: certainly got a position, but the ramifications of his decision
36:21
Speaker 13: may be a bit wider than what was first anticipated.
36:26
Speaker 2: Well, talking about ramifications, Barnaby something that too few people
36:30
Speaker 2: are talking about. Look, I'd like Donald Trump fighting the
36:33
Speaker 2: woke culture, but what really is worrying me. That is
36:36
Speaker 2: weakening the loyalties and alliances that make the West strong collectively,
36:41
Speaker 2: that give the US friends in fights for freedom. You know,
36:44
Speaker 2: look how we've fort b side in wars. His savage
36:47
Speaker 2: Ukraine has insulted Europe. He hasn't ruled out force in
36:50
Speaker 2: taking Greenland from Denmark. Is demanded Canada become America's fifty
36:55
Speaker 2: first state. And now I was forcing Japan and South
36:58
Speaker 2: Korea unbelievably to talk with traditional enemy China about joining
37:03
Speaker 2: forces to deal with Trump's tariff war, I mean Japan.
37:06
Speaker 2: And seriously, this is really weakening the West. It doesn't
37:13
Speaker 2: it concern.
37:13
Speaker 13: You, It's only that, and of course it concerns me,
37:17
Speaker 13: and asked you to concern all.
37:18
Speaker 4: All. This is more than most we've had.
37:20
Speaker 13: The Chinese doing live fire exercises off that case, why
37:24
Speaker 13: would they be doing that, they're practicing and what are
37:26
Speaker 13: they practicing for when they do live fire exercises off Sydney. Well,
37:30
Speaker 13: they're practicing just or warning that. When they're training, they're
37:36
Speaker 13: training for a war. And they were training for a
37:38
Speaker 13: war off the coast of Sydney, so it work that
37:41
Speaker 13: one out, and then we had the research festival that
37:45
Speaker 13: cruised its way through Bass straight obviously working out where
37:48
Speaker 13: submarine cables are and you know, anticipating what the depth
37:53
Speaker 13: of the water is and how their submarines can call
37:55
Speaker 13: around and what are the what are the sites that
37:58
Speaker 13: need to be taken out if in a case of
38:00
Speaker 13: a conflict with Australia.
38:02
Speaker 4: This is very very very serious stuff for Australia.
38:06
Speaker 13: Sometimes I don't know where this Australians quite understand how
38:10
Speaker 13: serious it is.
38:11
Speaker 4: And anything that's assists and of course if and weakens
38:15
Speaker 4: the alliances and weakens the resolve, it is not a
38:18
Speaker 4: good thing. It's a very very bad thing, and we've
38:23
Speaker 4: we've got to try and manage this.
38:24
Speaker 13: Of course, our defense alliance with the United States is
38:28
Speaker 13: absolutely primary.
38:29
Speaker 4: If you cannot we have to absolutely work.
38:34
Speaker 2: No, you're so right, But my point is, I think
38:38
Speaker 2: there's the point out to you. Alliance is also about
38:41
Speaker 2: the people's loyalty. You know, what will be the will
38:44
Speaker 2: of the people to help America in a crisis. And
38:47
Speaker 2: if this kind of thing is I really worry. Here's
38:50
Speaker 2: something weird, just quickly Barnaby Chris Bone's apartment, the Department
38:55
Speaker 2: of Bone being easy climate change in anything minute.
39:00
Speaker 4: Great has been carpeting.
39:03
Speaker 2: Well, he's been carpeting the country as you well know,
39:06
Speaker 2: with wind farms, huge wind towers and power loans to
39:09
Speaker 2: connect them. But only now is Bones Department asking for
39:13
Speaker 2: tenders for people to study this big growth of the
39:16
Speaker 2: onshore wind farm industry. It says to check about safeguarding
39:20
Speaker 2: threatened species, and it says there is a need to
39:23
Speaker 2: understand the cumulative more talable impacts of wind farms on
39:26
Speaker 2: bird and bats species, as in how many birds and
39:28
Speaker 2: bats these wind farms are actually killing? Why now, isn't
39:32
Speaker 2: it all a bit late?
39:34
Speaker 13: He's batpoop crazy what we're seeing with They're not wind farms,
39:40
Speaker 13: they're intermittent power precincts.
39:42
Speaker 4: It's the biggest swindle on earth.
39:44
Speaker 13: They get paid a return even if they don't produce
39:46
Speaker 13: the electron.
39:47
Speaker 4: They get to sell.
39:48
Speaker 13: Power in five minute blocks when you need it for
39:50
Speaker 13: twenty four hours. They get paid the price in the
39:53
Speaker 13: stack of the highest person that comes in, So even
39:55
Speaker 13: if they've been negative, it doesn't matter.
39:57
Speaker 4: They get paid the top price.
39:59
Speaker 13: It's a whole windle and now we're seeing that they
40:02
Speaker 13: just have to have to abide by regulations that if
40:05
Speaker 13: I broke, I'd go to jail. And they're just chopping
40:08
Speaker 13: up birds and.
40:10
Speaker 4: Getting rid of koalas and getting rid of gliders and
40:13
Speaker 4: it doesn't seem to matter.
40:14
Speaker 13: They level hills, they knock over forests and apparently this
40:19
Speaker 13: is for the environment, this is the save the planet.
40:22
Speaker 13: It's a complete home. It's a swindle, and you pavor it.
40:27
Speaker 13: You pavor it on your power bill every time you
40:29
Speaker 13: turn on the kettle.
40:30
Speaker 4: You're paying for it.
40:30
Speaker 9: You know what why?
40:32
Speaker 2: And now Chris is like these these wind farms have
40:39
Speaker 2: been chopping up birds for twenty years. We've we've covered
40:43
Speaker 2: this for a decade at least, and only now they're
40:45
Speaker 2: going to have a little study about it. I mean
40:48
Speaker 2: that is really weird. Because thank you so much for you.
40:53
Speaker 2: I've got to go because otherwise I've run out of
40:55
Speaker 2: taye for Patrick Christie's all the way from London. It's
40:58
Speaker 2: done done so well for us. Very nice to talk
41:00
Speaker 2: to you again, Barnaby, see you later after the break.
41:03
Speaker 2: More trouble for Prince Harry from a woman hired by
41:07
Speaker 2: the charity Harry's charity and now accuses him of racism.
41:17
Speaker 2: I told you the other day about that chairwoman of
41:21
Speaker 2: an African age charity that was co founded by Prince Harry,
41:25
Speaker 2: how she was playing the race card I said against
41:27
Speaker 2: Harry for trying to get her sacked, accusing me of
41:30
Speaker 2: racism and all that kind of. But since then the
41:32
Speaker 2: British media have been full of stories about this brawl.
41:35
Speaker 2: I thought it was done and but anyway, they're not
41:39
Speaker 2: actually full of sympathy for Harry. Some of the reports
41:42
Speaker 2: are quite demeaning, and I wonder why joining me from
41:45
Speaker 2: London is Patrick Christie's star presenter of gb News. Patrick,
41:51
Speaker 2: what on earth is behind the negativity in these stories
41:54
Speaker 2: about Harry. I thought it was a bit of a
41:56
Speaker 2: victim of race card playing.
42:00
Speaker 14: For Prince Harry's that he's already done so much damage.
42:02
Speaker 14: I mean, we have all done things for our wives, Andrew,
42:05
Speaker 14: but trashing your own family, leaving the country of your birth,
42:10
Speaker 14: slagging it off on the way out, losing all of
42:12
Speaker 14: your friends, and now potentially leaving a charity that is
42:17
Speaker 14: aimed at helping children with AIDS in Africa, potentially because
42:21
Speaker 14: the lady in charge of that charity snubbed your wife. Well,
42:25
Speaker 14: that really is quite something, isn't it. These claims of
42:28
Speaker 14: bullying and harassments as well by Harry on board members,
42:31
Speaker 14: you know, and nothing new we've seen that Megan was
42:34
Speaker 14: accused of bullying by Royal Aids at the Royal Family
42:37
Speaker 14: claims of course, that she vehemently denies.
42:39
Speaker 1: One of the things that is also quite interesting.
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Speaker 14: I mean, you alluded to it there when you said
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Speaker 14: that maybe this lady at the Center Barley charity is
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Speaker 14: playing the race card. There's a little bit more detail
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Speaker 14: emerging now that she claims that one of the board members,
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Speaker 14: who was white, basically said that her leadership approach was
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Speaker 14: very similar to that of a former South African leader
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Speaker 14: that of course didn't particularly like black people. The charity
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Speaker 14: will suffer ultimately here as a result, So you know, okay,
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Speaker 14: this is a charity that was founded in honor of
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Speaker 14: Princess Diana, Prince Harry's mother. But I suppose now that
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Speaker 14: he's out of it, it does give him a Megan
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Speaker 14: more time to focus on issues that they really care about,
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Speaker 14: like making jam in somebody else's kitchen or you know,
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Speaker 14: donating clothes to their wealthy friends.
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Speaker 1: In La after the wild Fighters.
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Speaker 2: Listen the Donald Trump tariff war against the world, really
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Speaker 2: against the world. He has been remarkably kind to Britain.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: He hit the European Union with twenty percent terariffts on
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Speaker 2: his six sports, but Britain was hit with just ten
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Speaker 2: percent half of it. What does that tell you, Well.
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Speaker 14: It tells you that a lot of people today are
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Speaker 14: going to be getting very very drunk on left wing
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Speaker 14: tears Andrew, you know, the remainer here have got massive
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Speaker 14: egg on their face, one of whom, of course is
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Speaker 14: our current Prime Minister, who actively campaigned for Britain to
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Speaker 14: rejoin the European Union, who actively wanted a second referendum.
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Speaker 14: This is a Brexit dividend. Because Britain is no longer
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Speaker 14: a member of the European Union. We have now got
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Speaker 14: half the tariffs in the round that the European Union has.
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Speaker 14: I mean, this is playing really well at the moment
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Speaker 14: for Nigel Farage and for the Conservative Party. Both of
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Speaker 14: those two quotes on quotes Conservative parties are leaving the polls,
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Speaker 14: and it's also going down really really badly for a
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Speaker 14: lot of people on the left. Why well, Donald Trump
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Speaker 14: liking all loath him is actually doing the things that
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Speaker 14: he said he was going to do, which is a
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Speaker 14: novel approach to socialists who in this country at least
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Speaker 14: have just lied, lied, lied, and then got into power
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Speaker 14: and reverted to time. It's quite funny actually that we're
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Speaker 14: seeing very prominent left wing commentators in this country reverting to, oh, well,
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Speaker 14: Trump's just an idiot, Trump's an idiot. Whilst a lot
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Speaker 14: of them do podcasts from their parents' basement, a lot
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Speaker 14: of them are comedians that can't decide which color of
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Speaker 14: the rainbow to dye their own hair, and they're calling
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Speaker 14: things like Trump's lapdock. Well, one of those people who
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Speaker 14: call it Trump's lap dog is Alista Campbell, the man
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Speaker 14: who was Tony blairs chief advisor when Britain blindly followed
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Speaker 14: another American president into an unforgivable war in Iraq. So
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Speaker 14: these people maybe need to have a little look at
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Speaker 14: themselves and maybe count the blessings that we've got Brexit
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Speaker 14: Britain and Trump a man who loves the Royal family
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Speaker 14: as well. And if you look at it, there's quite
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Speaker 14: a few Commonwealth nations who've actually done a bit better
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Speaker 14: than some of the other ones. So maybe we do
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Speaker 14: have our royal family and our king and the upcoming
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Speaker 14: state visits to thank for that.
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Speaker 2: Patrick, you said something there that contradicts the theory that
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Speaker 2: I had and I must have midpulled on this show
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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump was a gift to lift wing leaders
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Speaker 2: of other countries because it made them look like heroes
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Speaker 2: standing up for their own country against med Trump. You know,
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Speaker 2: it certainly helped the Canadian Prime minister. But you mentioned
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Speaker 2: those polls, and you're right. I mean, suddenly you've got
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Speaker 2: the Conservatives leading, and Trump made Nigel Farage, a mate
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Speaker 2: of Trump, leader of the Reform Party, narrowly behind Labor
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Speaker 2: in third place. So am I wrong that Trump is
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Speaker 2: not necessarily a gift to the lift.
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Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, because what he is exposing. Again, you
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Speaker 1: can agree.
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Speaker 14: Or disagree with what he's doing, but what we are
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Speaker 14: watching here is a man who is shamelessly standing up
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Speaker 14: for his own people. That's why how we bracket. See,
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Speaker 14: he says, these are the people that voted for me.
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Speaker 14: I told them I was going to do this, and
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Speaker 14: I'm going to put America first, and I want to
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Speaker 14: bring jobs. I want to bring entire companies in entire
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Speaker 14: corporations back to the United States that can lower taxes
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Speaker 14: for my own people. Right here in Britain, it appears
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Speaker 14: that we have a prime minister who is entirely obsessed
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Speaker 14: with international law, even if that means that some random
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Speaker 14: foreign judges say we have to give away a bit
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Speaker 14: of our sovereign territory also seems obsessed. We do absolutely
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Speaker 14: everything to make the lives easier for people who've just
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Speaker 14: entered Britain illegally from parts of the Middle East in Africa. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 14: this week in Britain, this week, every single bill that
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Speaker 14: British households have to pay has gone up, energy, water, broadband,
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Speaker 14: road tax, you name it, council tax, all of it
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Speaker 14: has gone up. The only people doing really well in
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Speaker 14: Britain at the moment, you could argue, are illegal immigrants.
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Speaker 1: And you look over there at Trump and you think, well,
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Speaker 1: here's a man who is He might.
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Speaker 14: Not be going about it the right way, but he
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Speaker 14: is just trying to put his own people first.
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Speaker 1: And I think people actually quite like that.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're likely if that's their leader, and they wish that,
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Speaker 2: you know, I think here we wish that we had
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Speaker 2: someone who's relentlessly focused on that rather than an international
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Speaker 2: treaties or whatever. Patrick Christies, thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your time. Now I'm going to say there are too
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Speaker 2: many conservatives, now so called conservatives, who are worshiping power
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Speaker 2: over reason and outcomes, some even thinking of letting me putin.
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Speaker 2: Oh is a nice guy at it's tough, you know, Christian,
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Speaker 2: And I won't mention the Trump cult. I mean, there's
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Speaker 2: a lot I like about Trump, but seriously, some people
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Speaker 2: lost their mind, which makes it really good time for
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Speaker 2: my book of the week. It's the wartime diaries of
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Speaker 2: Count Galliazzo Ciano, who's the son in law and foreign
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Speaker 2: miss and Massolini, the Italian dictator, later actually had him shot,
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Speaker 2: and Ciano was blinded my Missolini's power, even when describing
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Speaker 2: a man was clearly nuts, clearly leading Italy to destruction.
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Speaker 2: Ciano actually admitted to all that in his diaries. He
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Speaker 2: knew all that, And that's describing this exactly why the
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Speaker 2: Nazis tried so hard to stop this book from being
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Speaker 2: smuggled out of his jail cell and publish overseas. So
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Speaker 2: do read it. Do read it because it's such a
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Speaker 2: That's it from me, Sherry markson up next. Good night,