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10-05-26 Hour 1 - Broncos fall to the 49ers/Colorado CFB Insanity/Broncos miss Cooper, blame the offense · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: On the Altitude Sports Radio app. Second down and eight.
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  Speaker 3: Purdy. They get by Williams. They dump it off. It's Kittle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, look it.
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  Speaker 4: There he goes.
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  Speaker 2: Kittle on the move.
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  Speaker 3: Huffington will chase him.
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  Speaker 2: That is six.
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  Speaker 5: What a play.
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  Speaker 6: Kittle, his third touchdown in two games.
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  Speaker 2: His fourth touchdown reception. The Pinero extra point. 24-14. It's
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  Speaker 2: back to a double-digit lead for the 49ers.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously not the result we wanted.
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  Speaker 3: Good football team.
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  Speaker 6: We knew it was going to be a tight game,
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  Speaker 6: and Thought we played hard. And the margins become very slim.
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  Speaker 6: Just there's a couple of plays always when there's a
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  Speaker 6: game like that can go either direction.
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  Speaker 3: And those guys made them. We didn't.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tough loss.
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  Speaker 6: And then we go from here.
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  Speaker 3: So, any questions?
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  Speaker 7: Just looking for help in the appetizer. I was trying
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  Speaker 7: to find where the emotions were for Broncos fans today,
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  Speaker 7: because I'll be honest, mine are like, I'm pretty content. Like,
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  Speaker 7: I don't think the game was good yesterday or anything
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  Speaker 7: like that, but I was not surprised by a single thing. Like,
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  Speaker 7: nothing about yesterday's game was new. Here's the difference. Yesterday's
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  Speaker 7: game was the exact game that we've watched for two
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  Speaker 7: straight years without the fourth quarter comeback.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: That was it. And injuries. And injuries.
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  Speaker 7: Injuries were new, but outside the injury part, just as
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  Speaker 7: far as like game flow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, what, did you have a slow start and you
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  Speaker 7: couldn't get the running game going? And then it was
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  Speaker 7: a tight game late. And, like, all of that is
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  Speaker 7: the exact same thing. And you can point to– like,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to say a negative word about the defense.
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  Speaker 7: I thought they were excellent yesterday. Like, you hold Brock
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  Speaker 7: Purdy to, what, 50 yards passing in the first half?
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  Speaker 2: That was the lowest output of the season last night.
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  Speaker 8: It was– listen, I think we should all be over
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  Speaker 8: blaming the defense for giving up a drive and the
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  Speaker 8: kiddle touchdown at 56 yards.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares?
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  Speaker 8: Can we– Can we stop blaming the defense when the
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  Speaker 8: offense gives them zero support whatsoever?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Zero.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, no chance to breathe. No chance to take
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  Speaker 8: a break. No chance for any errors at all. The
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  Speaker 8: offense is putrid. This offense right now is among the
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  Speaker 8: worst offenses in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt. No doubt.
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  Speaker 7: And here's what's funny. Like, Moj, I don't know where
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  Speaker 7: you're at on this. I'm just, I was wholly unsurprised
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  Speaker 7: by all the things I was watching yesterday. I know
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  Speaker 7: that you and me jokingly threw our hands up and said,
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  Speaker 7: you know what, I guess slow starts just don't matter
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  Speaker 7: for this team. But we knew, you play a good
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  Speaker 7: team on the road, it's gonna matter. The funny thing is,
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  Speaker 7: so I'm doing the post-game show last night, and they're
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  Speaker 7: throwing the text up on the screen, right, or the tweets,
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  Speaker 7: all the different tweets from people. You know how many
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  Speaker 7: of them said Sean Payton needs to take over play
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  Speaker 7: calling again. And my reaction to the whole thing was for,
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  Speaker 7: for what?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 2: It looks the exact.
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  Speaker 7: Same that it did under Sean Payton too. It's again,
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  Speaker 7: didn't commit to the run game. Ironically, they committed to
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  Speaker 7: the run game. Well, They didn't commit to the run
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  Speaker 7: game until like the final two drives of the game
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  Speaker 7: where the clock was a problem, which was an interesting choice.
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  Speaker 8: Well, because the defense adjusted. The defense didn't want anything
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  Speaker 8: over the top. They pulled the safeties back, way back,
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  Speaker 8: so they opened up the middle of the field. Because
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  Speaker 8: they knew time was their friend at that point. But
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  Speaker 8: your running game still stinks. You can't get anything going early.
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  Speaker 8: You start another game with a three and out. It's
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  Speaker 8: every game this year, the first offensive possession has been
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  Speaker 8: a three and out. In the last two weeks, you've
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  Speaker 8: won the toss and taken the ball.
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  Speaker 7: Saying, I'm going to establish good offense.
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  Speaker 2: Only to punt.
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  Speaker 5: Watching another third and long and watching the ball sail
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  Speaker 5: the sideline out of bounds.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to lose my ass.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to lose it. So, you know I like
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  Speaker 2: movie references on this show. Oh, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Since when? Yeah, that's weird. Music and movie references.
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  Speaker 5: Today, I'm just telling you both right now. Nelly, where's Nelly? Steven,
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  Speaker 5: today is not the day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, that's new too. I've never heard you say that before.
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  Speaker 2: Today is not the mother trucking day.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how insulting me is going to make
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  Speaker 5: this a better thing. The fact of the matter is that,
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  Speaker 5: what's my birthday?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Groundhog Day. Exactly right. Thank you, Nelly.
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  Speaker 5: This is Groundhog Day. The Denver Broncos are Groundhog Day.
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  Speaker 2: They wake up every week.
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  Speaker 5: Singing the Sonny and Cher song. I got you, babe.
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  Speaker 5: And he pounds the frigging.
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  Speaker 2: The little radio, right?
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  Speaker 5: He's pounding on the clock radio. The Denver Broncos are
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  Speaker 5: Groundhog Day, man. Every single week, it's the same damn thing.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm watching that defense. Hey, Vic, I'm watching stop
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  Speaker 5: after stop after stop. I'm watching Singleton run to the
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  Speaker 5: sideline and.
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  Speaker 7: He was excellent yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: He was great.
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  Speaker 5: Firing his teammates and the Broncos fans in the crowd up.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm watching this.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going, dude, you are doing your job. Defense, you
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  Speaker 5: are kicking some major butt. And by the way, the 49ers,
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  Speaker 5: you know what they said? You want slobber knocker? Let's
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  Speaker 5: slobber knock.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, there was hitting in there.
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  Speaker 2: And they just, they kept pounding the rock up the
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  Speaker 2: middle and so on and so forth. But it's the
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  Speaker 2: same damn thing. And then you put up 11 points
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  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, but when it's too late. You're,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on the road anyway. But I just, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what else to say other than, look, Dobbins,
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  Speaker 2: Vic is not himself.
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  Speaker 7: No, he's playing through an injury that is incredibly Henry.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 5: Bo Nix, Vic is, I don't know that I've seen
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  Speaker 5: a more chucked down artist in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is a frigging... Checked down all the time.
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  Speaker 8: My observations, pretty much similar to last week's observations, even
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  Speaker 8: after a win. I am not going to blame the offense.
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  Speaker 8: Let me start that over again. I am not going
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  Speaker 8: to blame the defense for anything anymore. Defense is why
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  Speaker 8: that game was at all closer.
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  Speaker 2: You're damn right. You're absolutely correct. This offense, guys, listen
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  Speaker 2: to this. It sucks.
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  Speaker 8: So they can't establish a competent passing game. They can't
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  Speaker 8: get off to a good start. They run the ball
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  Speaker 8: so periodically that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: In the fourth quarter, they got a run game going,
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  Speaker 8: but when they needed it most, they couldn't get it going.
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  Speaker 8: They are averaging, guys, averaging in the first half of
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  Speaker 8: games through four games, just over three points for the
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  Speaker 8: first half of games. How are you going to establish
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  Speaker 8: any sort of momentum when your offense is producing just
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  Speaker 8: over three points in the first.
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  Speaker 2: Half of games? And you want to win on the
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  Speaker 2: road in the National Football League?
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  Speaker 5: The reason they got the running game going late is
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  Speaker 5: because the Niners backed off.
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  Speaker 6: Of course.
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  Speaker 5: Because they just didn't want to get beat over the top.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only reason. I swear to God, if the
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  Speaker 2: 49ers wanted... to stop the run game late in the game.
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  Speaker 2: They could have done it. They just didn't give a
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  Speaker 2: rat's rip. Like, yeah, eat clock. We don't care. We
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  Speaker 2: have the lead.
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  Speaker 5: You're not going over the top on us. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they played a smart fourth quarter, and the Broncos 11 points.
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  Speaker 5: The Niners kind of gave it to them, saying, you're
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  Speaker 5: not going to beat us over the top, and you're
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  Speaker 5: not going to win this game.
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  Speaker 2: There's more to it, though.
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  Speaker 8: Offensively, when your offense freezes and goes idle, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: let me look at my list.
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  Speaker 2: Three and out to start the game. Second possession, first
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  Speaker 2: and ten. Illegal motion.
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  Speaker 8: How many false starts and illegal motions do we see?
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  Speaker 8: Garrett Bowles three times was flagged in the first half yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: So they take two steps back to take one step
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  Speaker 8: forward offensively. They can't get anything going in the run game.
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  Speaker 8: The pass game is nothing but an extended run game.
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  Speaker 8: They're not throwing the ball deep. Now Pat Bryant, who's
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  Speaker 8: arguably played his best season, clearly, and is a favorite
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  Speaker 8: receiver of Bo Nix's, He's out. Corlin Sutton is off
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  Speaker 8: to his worst start in his career, production-wise. They can't
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  Speaker 8: get Jalen Waddell on the track. You know, when I
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  Speaker 8: thought of Jalen Waddell, I'm thinking, why don't they use
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  Speaker 8: him like the Niners.
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  Speaker 2: Use Debo Samuel? You see Debo averaging 15 yards a carry?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A carry.
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  Speaker 8: So there are so many things offensively that are wrong
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  Speaker 8: with this team. I don't want anybody touching this defense.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't touch me. This defense is carrying your job
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 5: This defense can win a Super Bowl. I'm telling you, Brett,
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  Speaker 5: this defense can win it all if they would just
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  Speaker 5: get some sort of competent offense going.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm sorry. I apologize, Brett.
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  Speaker 5: But now with Sertan and Moss, this could be disastrous
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  Speaker 5: very quickly.
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  Speaker 7: The good news, Tom Pelissero said late last night that
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  Speaker 7: The Broncos think that they've avoided long-term injury with Sertan,
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  Speaker 7: that the Achilles is intact and all that is fine.
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  Speaker 7: So I don't know how long he's going to be out,
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  Speaker 7: but at least it doesn't feel like it's going to
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  Speaker 7: be season ending.
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  Speaker 2: The big problem that.
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  Speaker 7: The Broncos face is this. And by the way, I
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  Speaker 7: put the quarterback on the other side in the same
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  Speaker 7: category as I have Jalen hurts. I've told you guys
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  Speaker 7: this before. I feel like all of them are quarterbacks
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  Speaker 7: who are good now, pretty better than Knicks.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: But they're all in the same category to me of
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  Speaker 7: if everything is right around them, they are very good
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  Speaker 7: at what they do. And I think you saw that
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  Speaker 7: early in that game. Did Brock Purdy look impressive to you?
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 2: Like, three points and a half for the Niners, too.
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  Speaker 7: The game flipped because you fumbled on a punt and
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  Speaker 7: you gave them the ball at the 28-yard line.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the game flipped. But this.
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  Speaker 7: That one instance, that one play is exactly what I've
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  Speaker 7: been talking about, what we've been talking about for two
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  Speaker 7: straight years, which is you can't make a mistake late
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  Speaker 7: with the style of play that you have. Everything needs
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  Speaker 7: to go perfectly. And somehow they've been able to do
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  Speaker 7: that consistently over the last couple of years. But I
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  Speaker 7: think just yesterday's a reminder that if you don't have
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  Speaker 7: everything exactly right at the end of games, it results
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  Speaker 7: in a loss.
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  Speaker 8: For example, the Kittle touchdown. The defense had to get
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  Speaker 8: the ball back, right? They had to do something aggressively, right?
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  Speaker 8: So what did they do? They did a lot of
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  Speaker 8: blitz runs on first down. They went after Purdy. They
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  Speaker 8: made him do things he didn't want to do. All right,
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  Speaker 8: you want to do that?
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  Speaker 2: Here's a quick toss to Kittle. 56 yards, touchdown. So, man, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm over it. If the offense doesn't shift it into gear,
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 3: What it is.
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payton said it, Vic, during his postgame news conference,
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  Speaker 5: and we played it coming back.
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  Speaker 2: When your offense is so putrid.
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  Speaker 5: And you can't get anything going, the margin for error, Brett,
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  Speaker 5: like you just said, is so thin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's so small. You can't overcome. And again, this
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  Speaker 2: is their MO.
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  Speaker 5: Brett, when you go back to last year and the
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  Speaker 5: turnover ratio, they lost that, right?
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  Speaker 2: Last season.
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  Speaker 5: Sure. Well, then how the hell do they win so
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  Speaker 5: many games? I mean, you're talking, you need luck. You
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  Speaker 5: need fortune. You need breaks. You need, it seemingly just,
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  Speaker 5: it cannot keep going on, Vic. So when you make
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  Speaker 5: one mistake and you're asking your defense to bail you
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  Speaker 5: out time and time and time again, that is not
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  Speaker 5: a way to live life.
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  Speaker 2: It just isn't. But you need, the bottom line is this.
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  Speaker 7: If there's one thing that I think I know about
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  Speaker 7: Bo Nix, it's that he needs help.
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  Speaker 2: He's capable.
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  Speaker 7: Look, you feasibly, could have gone to and won a
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  Speaker 7: Super Bowl last year with that exact same quarterback that
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  Speaker 7: we're talking about. If he doesn't bust up his ankle
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  Speaker 7: in the divisional round, right? You could have played the
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  Speaker 7: AFC championship game, beaten the Patriots, and who knows? Maybe
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  Speaker 7: you win against the Seahawks. But you would have made it.
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  Speaker 7: He's good enough for that. Here's what he's not good
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  Speaker 7: enough to do. He's not good enough to carry you. Like,
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  Speaker 7: that's what I think I know. And here's what Sean
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  Speaker 7: Payton said about the lack of a deep passing game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there are going to be more behind
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  Speaker 6: certain things. They can rotate that cloud to waddle. They
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  Speaker 6: can rotate it to the boundary. And so they do
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  Speaker 6: a good job of staying on top of the deeper throws.
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  Speaker 7: The third consecutive year we're talking about what? Shell coverage.
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  Speaker 7: And that's why we're dumping things off underneath. Sanford said yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: That they're not afraid, Brett. Nobody's afraid of that.
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  Speaker 7: But, Moj, it's not the lack of fear in Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 7: although I'm sure there's certainly something to do with that.
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  Speaker 2: They don't fear you running the football. They don't fear
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  Speaker 2: the run game, and that's where it starts.
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  Speaker 7: And if you don't fear running the football, Bo Nix
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  Speaker 7: has no shot.
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  Speaker 2: They played too deep safety.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The entire time. Do you know what that says to
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  Speaker 2: your run game?
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  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Good luck. You can't do that plan, Jonathan Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: No, what it says is that we don't have to
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  Speaker 5: stack the box because you can't do anything. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: Run it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Go.
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  Speaker 2: Do it. That makes it difficult enough.
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  Speaker 10: Do it.
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  Speaker 2: I dare you.
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  Speaker 7: Go.
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  Speaker 2: They're almost like, I dare you to run the free.
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  Speaker 2: Right now. Look at me.
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  Speaker 7: Right now.
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  Speaker 5: Go.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That makes it.
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  Speaker 7: Difficult enough for good quarterbacks in this league. Like if Mahomes,
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  Speaker 7: we watched it over the last few years, pre-Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 7: Mahomes had a hard time because they had Kareem Hunt
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  Speaker 7: running for three and a half yards a carry and
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  Speaker 7: defenses didn't care. Chiefs look a little bit different now, offensively,
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  Speaker 7: with Kenneth Walker because of that.
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  Speaker 2: Like you have to respect it.
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  Speaker 7: And so there's, look, I'm going to say there's a
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  Speaker 7: whole bunch of problems.
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  Speaker 2: They aren't new. You know what I mean? These are
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  Speaker 2: the same issues that they've had.
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  Speaker 7: They've just been able to get away with it in
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  Speaker 7: the past. So a lot more to discuss with this
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  Speaker 7: moving forward. I said in the appetizer, I don't know
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  Speaker 7: if you guys would agree or not. The Broncos game,
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  Speaker 7: plenty to discuss. I don't think there's a more interesting
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  Speaker 7: state in college football than the state of Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: It's outrageous what's going on. It was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 8: The amount of topics we have college-wise can fill three hours.
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  Speaker 7: So we'll get to that in a bit.
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  Speaker 9: The Avs.
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  Speaker 7: Whooped the snot out of Bennington, which I loved over
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  Speaker 7: the weekend, which was great.
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  Speaker 2: The pass by Jokic already. The pass by Jokic in
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  Speaker 2: the preseason.
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  Speaker 7: A lot to get to. Stick around. All right, it's
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  Speaker 7: Rally House Football Monday. I got to ask you guys something.
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  Speaker 7: Do you want to continue on the Broncos, or do
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  Speaker 7: you want to get to college football now?
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  Speaker 2: Let's just do this on the fly. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: what else. There's so much to digest, dude.
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  Speaker 7: Well, there's a lot with the Broncos, especially with injuries now,
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  Speaker 7: to key positions. But let's do this. Table the Broncos
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  Speaker 7: for a second. I got to talk about college football.
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: I can't get over this.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 15:11
  Speaker 8: I've never seen a coach leave the field at the
• 15:13
  Speaker 8: end of the first quarter of play, basically is fired
• 15:17
  Speaker 8: as a coach, and just walks off and says, I've
• 15:18
  Speaker 8: never seen it.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I've never seen it. Never in my life. Not at
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: that level.
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: And here's the problem. How do you find a job
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: again after that?
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: That is a scarlet letter on your resume that is
• 15:31
  Speaker 7: never going to be gone.
• 15:32
  Speaker 8: I mean, think about how bad things have to go.
• 15:35
  Speaker 8: How bad do things have to be to just walk
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: off the job?
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: So if you guys missed it, this is Colorado State.
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: In the first half, they're getting torched by Oregon State again, defensively.
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: They give up 35 points again in the first half.
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: Jim Mora goes to his D.C. Ty Summers and says,
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: they caught it on camera.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: He goes, bleep, bleep, bleep.
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: This is the second bleeping week in a row like
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: he is getting after him on the sideline. then relieves
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: him of his play-calling duties, gives it to somebody else,
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: to which his response was, then I'm out. And literally
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: walked off the field never to be seen again. Here's
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: Jim Moore after the game.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Tyson was relieved of his play-calling duties. He left the field,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: and he's no longer with this football program.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: That's a permanent thing.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: That is a permanent.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So can he take over SDC then?
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Kenny will be the primary play-caller. He was put.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: He was put in a very difficult situation tonight and
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: he responded well and the players responded well. The very
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: first play he called as a defensive coordinator his entire
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: life was a sack-cause fumble. So we're going to get better.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: We're going to get a lot better. He's a good
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: football coach.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Did you anticipate that he would leave the field.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: When he was relieved?
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: That wasn't anything that I would ever consider. I just
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: relieved him of his duties as a play caller. He
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: made the decision on his own to leave the field
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: and he is no longer with the program.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: I love that question. Did you think that he was
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: going to walk off and never be seen again after
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: you relieved him of play calling duties?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Um, no, never thought that was a possibility ever. Who
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: was the Pittsburgh receiver that left the field? That was
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Antonio Brown.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Remember, he just walked off. Well, no, he also stripped
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: on his way out. He went all the way down
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: to just his pants.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was playing for Tampa at the time, right?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: So, if you get fired the way Summers was fired,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: he's fired, basically. You're fired. Permanently. Do you stick around?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Or do you leave? I mean, what am I supposed
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to do? Am I supposed to just hang around the team.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: And go, Hey, uh.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Vic.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: If you bench a quarterback in the middle of a game,
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: should he walk off the field?
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: But.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: That's a benching. This is a firing.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: Well, no, he relieved him of play-calling duties. That's a
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: demotion for the time being.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: And I've got a better story. So, this guy is
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a carryover from the previous staff. Correct. He was the interim.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: How does this come to... How does this come to
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: a boil now? Like, how does that not... How is
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: there no friction earlier? I... That's a great question.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: 100 points in three halves, I think, is how it happened.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: But, again.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Without deep pockets, is Jim Moore Jr. told, hey, you
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: got to keep this guy around?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: No.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: If you're making the decision to make him head coach,
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: you know it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Why would he hang on to him? Maybe he thought
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: he was good and it just didn't work.
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: Maybe he wanted somebody who knew the personnel to help
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: him out.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know the full story. Here's what I do know.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: The quarterback for Oregon State went 31 of 34 for
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: 427 and 5 touches. It's the best day that kid
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: will ever have in his entire life.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Listen to me.
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: What?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I'm an old man. I have never seen a coach
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: leave a game in the first quarter.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Ever.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: At that level.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Ever.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: In the history of me watching football. I'm an old
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: man without a prostate.
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: Hang on a second. Hang on. The texture says, Summer's
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: first quarter firing happened about 30 feet in front of me.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: Moral walked over and told Summers he's not calling plays anymore.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Summer shot some magic words back. Maury gave the baseball
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: umpire ejection signal. According to my lip reading from the
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: front row, said get the bleep off the field, you're
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: bleeping fired. It was full-on Joe West, Lou Piniella, one
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: of the funniest things I've ever seen.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: All right, so that's my question. I don't think this
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: guy chooses to leave if he's not fired. He got fired.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: What else do you do if you get fired? What,
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: are you going to stick around and clap your hands?
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: It certainly would change things.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: If he said you're fired, on the field, it would
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: change things.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: According to that source, your texter, who was at the game,
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: he was told to leave the field.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And I believe that, to be honest with you. I mean,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: relieved of your play-calling duties versus, I think he was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: fired on the spot. Get the hell out.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: And so he did.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: I think more obviously.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Like, he was fired up.
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: Well, he was the previous week, too. Do you remember
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: the previous exchange? Okay, so what's worse? That or what's
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: happening in Boulder right now?
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: Okay, I'll tell you this. That is funny. What happened
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: at CSU, I think, is funny. And it's not funny
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: that somebody's getting fired, but having somebody walk off the
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: field mid-game is objectively hilarious. Antonio Brown, when he did it, funny.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: When that dude, who was the corner? I love this story.
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: The corner who was playing it at halftime, he said,
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: I'm retired.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Vontae Davis. Vontae Davis. Correct.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: He just said, I'm not good enough anymore. I retired.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: He retired at halftime.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: There was a basketball player that left at mid game
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: and just said, I'm done. I can't remember who it
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: is now.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: So what's happening at CU guys is embarrassing. That's what
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: it is. And I'll give you a number of examples.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: There's a clip of Deion in the middle of that game.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: He's angry, yelling at his sideline, saying, why are there
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: only nine players on the field? It was on special teams.
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: They don't have a special teams coordinator.
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: No, their tight ends coach serves as their special teams
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: coach as well.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: Maybe that's why, is that you don't have a dedicated
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: coach to special teams, number one. Number two, I don't
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: know how you guys feel about this. I can't take this.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: It's one of the most frustrating things, certainly in sports,
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: but in life. You can't have a defiant attitude towards
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: people's criticisms when you're bad.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: Nick Saban, if you question Nick Saban at a post-game
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: press conference in which they lost their first game of
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: the year against Georgia in Week 10 and said, hey,
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: why did you go for it on fourth down? And
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: he gives you a little attitude in the answer, that's earned, okay?
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: He's like, I've won a billion games here. You're really
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: going to question me about this small little detail? That's
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: fine with me. Prime's attitude in postseason press conferences with
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: the little to no success that he's had at CU
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: is starting to drive me nuts. And here's a perfect example. Hey,
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: why is the offense struggling?
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: You know what it is. I said you're going to
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: run with it. You know darn well what it is.
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: Just say it right at yourselves. You know what it is.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: It ain't no, it's blatant. It ain't no ifs, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: buts about it. I would respect y'all a lot more
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: if y'all just said it yourself.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: I would respect you if you just said what the
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: issue was.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Is he talking about the quarterback? Of course he's talking
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: about the quarterback. Why doesn't he just say it? Just
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: say it. Who recruited the quarterbacks? Who coaches the quarterbacks?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Who molded the quarterbacks? They're not my quarterbacks. He goes
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: on to say this.
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we got one glaring problem. You guys know what
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: that is. I ain't no fool. Let's stop the shenanigans, man.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: We got one glaring problem. You guys know darn well
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: what that is. Let's stop it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: The foolishness. We've got to play better at one specific position.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Then say it! Didn't they go and get a five-star
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: for that specific position?
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Where is he? He's on the bench, Vic.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: And why is he on the bench?
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: Obviously, he benched Juju from first to third string, it
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: looks like. And Isaac didn't play well. No, no, no.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I would love Juju to come here and he tell
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: you what happens. So don't you bench Juju first to
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: third string? No, that's not how it went down. Well,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: that's what it looked like, so I'm just asking. It
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: didn't happen like that. Okay.
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: But you bench Juju, and then Isaac doesn't play well.
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: As you go into this bye week, is it an
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: open competition at quarterback?
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: It's always open competition. Every darn day is open competition.
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: That's the position that is somewhat disabling us and disarming us.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Every day is like that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Okay, let me say something just real quick.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: I had this problem, was it last year or two
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: years ago?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Two years ago, maybe.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: When Pat Shermer was not calling plays and Dion was
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: asked who was calling plays then and he didn't give
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: an answer.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Remember that?
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: Nobody knew who the offensive coordinator was for like three weeks.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: And I said, this is legitimate. When you are a
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: public institution, that part of your money comes from people
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: paying taxes. I think you are owed as the public
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: money for things that are going on within that program.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: When you bench Juju and somebody asks, why was he benched?
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: You can't give the answer of, I wish he could
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: tell you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Tell me. Like, I need to know this stuff.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: You're in charge. You made a decision. You need to
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: explain to me why the decision was made. And if
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: it's not just he was playing bad, then what is it?
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: Well, that game was alarming because, Clearly, Brendan Marion wanted
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: a quarterback who was not afraid to pull the trigger.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Remember when he.
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: Told Juju, when he mouthed to Juju in the last game?
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: In the game he was benched, he basically said, don't
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: play scared, right? So Isaac Wilson comes in and throws
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: the ball all over the field.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: That first drive was fantastic. The trick plays. He caught
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: two passes on the first drive. I know. But then
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: he kept throwing the ball all over the field, sometimes
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to the other team. I mean, throwing the ball everywhere. Like,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: And then, when he throws the pick six in the
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: end zone, and I'm not even going to call it
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: a throw.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'll call it a handoff. Does that go down as
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: an interception or a handoff? What is that?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: Well, here's... We didn't even get to the worst part.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: When you talk about embarrassing, and this has to be
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: part of the reason why Deion's fired up in that postgame.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: It's not just the loss... Nelly, I'm going to send
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: something to you in a DM.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'll put it up behind us.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: Vic, Vic. The story that seems to be legitimate, that
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: a Texas Tech fan found the playbook at a hotel bar,
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: and the scripted plays that were in the playbook were
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: ran to a tee in the middle of the game,
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: is the most embarrassing thing I can ever imagine.
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: What if I told you I know the Texas Tech
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: fan who has the playbook?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: How do you know the Texas Tech fan who has
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the playbook? I'll tell you guys off camera.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Here's the thing, Vic.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Would I know who it is? No.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: So he got the playbook, he posted it on Reddit,
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: and he said, is there any way I can get
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: this to the coaches?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: The guy who found it did not post it. Somebody
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: else did.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: So, yeah, blow that up. This is the script. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: I thought to myself, man, this looks really hokey.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: There's no way this is real. This is real. Watch
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the plays. This is real.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Watch.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Hit play on this, Nelly.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: And for those listening on the radio, it's a full page.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: There's nine plays on this playbook. I think it was
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: 12 total in this thing.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And they went right here.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: This is the double reverse pass that Texas Tech looks
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: really prepared for.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Quarterback to quarterback. They are scripted in order.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: These plays are run to a tee of what it
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: shows here on the screen.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what?
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: If Texas Tech got the playbook, they're really dumb because
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: they couldn't stop the plays.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Because they went right down and scored.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: I think maybe they thought to themselves, this has to
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: be a plant.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Like Mike Leach used to do that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: You realize that Texas Tech, it's funny and ironic that
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: Texas Tech found the playbook because Mike Leach, as the
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: head coach at Texas Tech, used.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: To plant fake play sheets when he would take on Oklahoma.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Let me tell you this, though. Here's my question. Who
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: uses physical copies of playbooks anymore? Aren't they all on
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: an iPad? And part of the reason is for you
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: need a password to get into it. Like, isn't that
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: part of it just in case we lose stuff like this?
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: And who, I mean, how irresponsible do you have to
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: be as a player to leave something like this behind?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? How lazy? Was it a player?
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: Was it a coach? If it's at a hotel bar,
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: is that a player?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Some of these players are 26 years
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: old for all I know.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know anymore. The bottom line is it's a joke.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. It just, it's embarrassing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: By the way, you still had a halftime lead. You
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: were still up seven to three at halftime, Brett. I mean,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: everybody's slogging along. I mean, hell you're down 12 to
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: seven after three. Why can't you win that game?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: It's it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Thank God for Air Force.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Thank God for the Fighting Falcons because college football in
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: this state on a high level sucks.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: This is a legitimate discussion to have now, by the way,
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: regarding prime. Could you name a single player that you
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: would consider really good that he didn't bring with him
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: his first year?
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: No.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: On this team? Well, I mean.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: On any team.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Well, Seton's gone. That defensive lineman's pretty solid. That nose tackle.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: He was ripping up wrecking plays. Let's not. That DB
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: is really good. They've got players. Yeah, you know, some
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: of their linebackers are pretty good, dude.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: They didn't have a single guy drafted last year.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Joseph Williams is a pretty good receiver. Yeah, he's pretty good.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: How I evaluate whether you have talent on your college
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: roster or not, did you get a guy drafted last year? year,
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: they didn't. How do you not have a single professional
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: player on your roster?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So what he's saying is.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: If you want to be competitive, look at any competitive
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: team in college football and tell me if they've had
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: no players drafted in a draft.
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: The one thing I was hoping to see out of
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: the Buffs this year is an advancement offensively when you
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: don't have Shador Sanders running the show. OK, so they
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: brought in a special coordinator who has a special offense,
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: a unique offense that's supposed to be so different, so
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: cutting edge.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Watch out. Well, on the opening drive, we saw exactly that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: After the opening drive, it was turnover fest, turnover city,
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: completely out of their league.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: They couldn't do a thing. So I don't know where
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: to go from here. I don't know what to tell you.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And now you got Utah. After a bye week, you've
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: got Utah coming in. Hey, Brett. Undefeated Utah. Utah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Give me two. Oh, geez.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: What do you want me to tell you? What can
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: I say to soothe you? What can I say to
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: make your face not look like your face? You seem so.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: I think that this thing has kind of run its course.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: So what do you do?
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: If you want to be serious about football and not
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: serious about your financials, you fire him at the end
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: of the year.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And let's see how much is left on the deal.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: A lot. It's a lot. Three years, 10 minutes, $ 30 million?
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: It's a lot of money.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the payoff would be.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: But, guys, do you— Who associated with the program— how do
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: you come up with that bread?
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: Do you have any faith that this is going to
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: get better?
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: No.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Not now, I don't.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Then what are we doing?
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Then what are we doing?
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: And this is the discussion we had heading into the weekend, Moj,
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: where I told you they're in the weirdest position. And
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know how else to explain this because I
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: don't know anything that's like this. How do you have
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: somebody where the product isn't good, but it makes money? Like,
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: I don't even know how that's possible. Like, I was
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: trying to say, Vic, if you went to McDonald's and
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: you were served moldy Big Macs and French fries and
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: the Diet Coke that you got is flat and everything
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: about your meal is terrible, but they're making insane money,
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: how does that even work? Because that's where CU's at.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: They're making cash because Prime brings in dollars, but the
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: product is bad. Guys, this is not any better than
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: Carl Durrell.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: This.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: That is not better than what Carl Durrell did.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: It really isn't.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: And when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel in
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: the Big 12, and you're behind West Virginias, and you're
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: behind Kansas, and you're behind.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: UCF, it's just depressing. If you're a college football fan
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: in the state, it's depressing. But, Moshe, what happens after
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the first series where they– I mean, they run it
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: right down the field. They execute perfectly. I couldn't tell you, Vic.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Do they forget how to play? I couldn't tell you.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Is the scripted plays that important?
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: Well, I said this before. You guys watched the game.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: You saw Texas Tech.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Those are men.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: Again, Moshe, I told this to you heading into the weekend.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: Look at CU, and again, I don't mean this disrespectfully.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: When I look at CU when they're on the field,
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: and if you didn't tell me who they were, they
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: have the physical build of what looks like could be
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: a high school team.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong. Like, they aren't big. They don't
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: have arms. They aren't cut. They don't have this stuff.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: They're fast.
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: Well, the state of college football, outside of Air Force,
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: who won over the weekend against Navy, The state of
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: college football, major Division I college football in our state,
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: is about as low.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: As it can go.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: I mean, they made national news for two different things.
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: Stolen playbook, or lost behind playbook, and a coach fired
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: in the first quarter of a game.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Watching it go down on Twitter, watching Rams fans react
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: to the firing, it was.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I just, I've never experienced something like that. Ridiculous.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: Let's celebrate our student of the week. It's Eagle Crest sophomore,
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: Haisley Elliott. She threw a perfect game with 13 strikeouts
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: and has a 4.1 GPA. Congratulations, Haisley. It's all powered
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: by Mr. Rooter Plumbing, proudly rooting for Colorado students and athletes.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Back after this. See, this is what I'm talking about, man. I.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: Taisha says, Brett wants to see you to go back
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: to empty stadiums and no TV days so we can
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: get a straight answer to why they lost. Listen, man.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Here's what I asked for. This is what's so funny.
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: I asked for CU to have a good football team,
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: and that's the response that I get.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Well, you're an ass for asking that. You're an absolute jerk.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: What a bleep hole I am for saying, I think
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: you guys deserve better than the project.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: That you've been seeing the last three weeks. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: what a jackass I am. Say that I'll be CU fan.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: I think you should be better at football than you are.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: No.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: No, you don't. As long as I'm on TV, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: don't care what it looks like. I don't deserve better.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Every team's on TV now.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: No kidding.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Every team's on TV. UMass is on TV.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: I'm watching Eastern Washington versus UC Davis the other night
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: on national television.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I want?
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: I want a packed stadium because people want to watch
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: a good product.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: That's what I want.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: Hey, look at what we've done to our... Our rap,
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: our value is up. People know us on social media now.
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: Those people, you're not watching for football. You're watching for
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: other reasons. Do you want to win?
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: You want to win.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: Can I ask you guys something? Because I wasn't here.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: In the 90s, was the stadium full?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Because they were good. Because the team was good.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: That's how it should be.
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: You should show up to the stadium because the team
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: is good and you want to see a good team play.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: The stadium, I'll say this. It was full.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: But, Vic, before the Dow Ward Center went up, before
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: they did, it was just kind of basic.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: It's a really nice stadium now. It's beautiful. It's really good.
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: One thing I wanted to say, the Julian Lewis situation,
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: which is really weird, right? So he's been benched. Sounds
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: like he doesn't want to come back and play. Judging
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: from the reaction, why doesn't he just leave?
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I saw him laughing and cutting up on the sideline,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, man. I don't know what to think.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Dude, he just turned 19 years old.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: He's a baby.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: He's still a very, very young guy. So I'm going
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: to give him some grace in that regard. But I
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: guess I can't want it more than they want it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: I can't want them to be better than they want
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: to be better.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Brett. I don't know.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: Going back to the Broncos, here's a big issue. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: mentioned this in the offseason. Nobody took it seriously, and
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: that's fine. Not here to keep score on things.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Technically, you are. This is what your job is.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: Well, I just didn't like that everybody pretended Jonathan Cooper
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: not being there wasn't a big problem. I'm like, guys,
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: you've lost.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: What was the number?
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: It was 40-some sacks over the last two years from
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: Jonathan Cooper and JFM combined. And I go, that's a
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: big deal for something that is the strength of your defense.
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: The strength of your team is pass rush.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: It's a big deal.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: And they've been able to skate by with this because
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: the defense has still been good because their secondary has
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: been excellent. Think about the quarterbacks you've faced the first
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: four weeks. It's been Mahomes, Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford, and
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: now Brock Purdy. Four of the best quarterbacks in the league.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: Three of the four weeks, you have completely shut down
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: those quarterbacks. Even in week one against Mahomes, they did
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: not beat you through the air. He didn't complete a
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: pass past 10 yards in that game.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I noticed?
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: Brock Purdy, who has been sacked zero times now through
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: four weeks of the season.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. How many sacks does Nick Benito have? Do you
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: guys know off the top of your head? God, one?
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's one. One sack all year.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: You don't think that not having Jonathan Cooper on the
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: other side is maybe a little bit of that reason?
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: It's impactful.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: You don't think that not having John Franklin Myers in
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: the middle is a little bit of that reason? And
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying that Nick Benito isn't a good player anymore,
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: but you don't have the historically great pass rush that
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: you've had from the last two years.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: According to our altitude stats, man.
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: Doug Strauss, the Broncos yesterday produced zero defensive sacks, nor
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: did they.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Allow a sack, right?
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: The first time since 2016, 10 years, that they had
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: a game with zero combined sacks, neither allowing one or
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: getting one.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: That's pretty bizarre.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: But I only bring this up because, again, yesterday was
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: not about the defense. But moving forward, if you don't
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: have a pass rush and Sertan– and Moss are missing.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Big problem. Least of your worries. But, Vic, it will.
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: Become a worry if you can't rush the passer and
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: your starting cornerbacks are out.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And your offense can't produce a touchdown in the first half. Yeah,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: let me try to educate you on something real quick.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Please do.
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: Crack an egg of knowledge all over Vic over there.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: If this defense becomes average, just average middle-of-the-pack average.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: Exactly right.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The Broncos are going to suck. Well, they're going to
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: have some big problems. Big problems. Now, look, I think
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: they're going to beat the Chargers on the road. The Chargers.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, you've got Harbaugh basically saying, oh, McDaniel's job
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: is totally safe. I mean, they're talking about firing the
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: OSC four weeks into the season.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: So I think they'll beat the Chargers and then they'll have.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: a puncher's chance against the Seahawks at home.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: But Vic, if this defense is somewhat average, just average,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you are totally screwed. Do you understand that? I'm going
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to tell you right now, I'm going to spend exactly
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: one minute criticizing the Broncos defense.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: One minute.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: There's no reason to even criticize them. I'll let you
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: have it. I'll let you talk about it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: Vic, hang on. This isn't a criticism of the defense.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: It's a worry. It's a concern.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: It's a worry because of the offense, though.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I thought, you know, losing your two starting corners, two
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: of the better corners in the National Football League. Well,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: one is an all-pro, right? Yeah. I thought the guys
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: that came in were fine. It's the beauty of their depth.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Having depth. We're fine. I think Jaday Barron played well.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I think they're not fine. They're not fine. Let a
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: team game plan for them. I get it. This is
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: mid-game and this is, you know.
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: But it's not like all of a sudden it turned into,
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: you know, let's throw deep on these guys.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: They still played well.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Well, the Niners elected just to continue to pound the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: rock and kill the clock.
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: That's exactly what they did. If this offense, two things
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: that it needs to do. If it can't run the
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: ball and it can't throw the ball and it can't
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: execute without getting a penalty, what can it do?
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Because every drive, guys, all right, here we go.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Here we go.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Get the ball back.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: How does every drive start? Oh, false start. Okay. Illegal motion.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: All right. There's a smooth.
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: What's worse. What's worse is how many times yesterday, which
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: I wish I charted it in real time. Did they
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: have third and two and they'd have a pre-snap penalty.
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: It took them to third and seven.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: And you're just like, guys, you aren't good enough for this.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I did chart it. I did chart it. That happened.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Three times in the first half in key situations.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: It's been happening all year.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You put your offense in those situations, you're not going
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to do much. You're done. You're not going to do much.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Denver defense holds on that fourth and one in the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: second quarter. Remember that? Huge play.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: So they get the ball back, and here's how it went.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: And at that point, it's 3-0 Broncos.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: You're up 3-0. You get the ball back. You stop
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: them on fourth. Think about that momentum. Your defense to
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the rescue stops them on fourth and short. Yep. You've
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: got the ball in great field position. Moj, third and three.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: The Broncos false start. Makes it third and eight. Blitz.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Bowe is flushed. Got to throw it away. Punt. Three
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: and out. That's it. You had it third and three.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: And that false start ruins that drive.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: The fact that you get to third and three is
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: a different story, though. Why can't you get a first
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: down on first or second down? Why does it take
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: the third down every time?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: They didn't have.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry if you mentioned this. I was just looking
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: something up. They didn't have a first down on first
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: or second down the entire game. Do you know that?
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: They all came on third down. And they were decent
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: third down conversion rate. But not getting a first down
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: on first or second for an entire four quarters is lunacy.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Again, it's Groundhog Day. Here's another one.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Vic, it's the same thing all the time. Incidentally, if
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: this continues against the Chargers, God forbid they should lose
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: to the L.A.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Chargers of Anaheim, Long Beach. Watch out.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Don't you watch out me right now. But if they
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: should lose that game, we are bringing back death by inches.
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: Herbert is throwing interceptions that a high schooler throws. It's mystifying.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Right now, you know what happened?
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: And I don't say this with any sort of joy,
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: although I hope he continues it against the Denver Broncos.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: He is a quarterback moron. Watch him play the game, Vic.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: The guy can't play the game anymore.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: And I have a very strong inkling why.
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: Did you guys see how that started? First, Chargers get
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: the kick to start the game. First snap, Herbert throws
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: a terrible interception, like awful interception, to which Sam Darnold
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: takes over. First snap, throws the ball right back to
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: the Chargers. I'm like, what is happening in this stupid game?
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: So I think the game for the Broncos, the more
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: I look at my notes here, it was lost in
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: the early second quarter. And I mentioned the one drive
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: where they went three and out.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: They got the ball back after the defense held San
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Francisco to another three and out.
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: They got the ball back again, right? Because there's stuff
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: in the run game. The Broncos got it. Great field position.
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: They're up 3-0. It's third and one. Guess what happens
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: on third and one?
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: Bulls, false start.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Now third and six. What happens on third and six?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Incomplete punt. Three and out.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Can't happen.
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: The game is lost at that juncture. You're up already.
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: You have a chance to go up two scores. Just
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: move the ball.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: It's twofold because it's one. It's like that is you
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: just can't take a penalty like that on third and one, right?
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: Here's the other thing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Why does it feel like third and six is now insurmountable?
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing. Every time. Well, Bo did scramble
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: once on the third and six.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Which is really nice. To his left.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 44:35
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• 44:36
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