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Pastor Bailey (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: To Teas and a Pod, which Teddy Mellencamp and Camridge Idge. Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Two Teas and a Pod
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  Speaker 1: and a c I am here with Cynthia Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: My voice is back. I'm very happy to be able
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  Speaker 2: to speak a little louder on everything we have to
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  Speaker 2: talk about today because.
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  Speaker 1: We have a lot any updates with you, Cynthia before
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  Speaker 1: we get started.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. My voice is back, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: feeling better still at Lake. Bailey headed to New York
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  Speaker 2: today actually after the podcast, and life is good. I
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  Speaker 2: went on a date this weekend and that was fun.
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  Speaker 2: I got an award this weekend, like Fashion Icon Awards.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, well, I mean, you know, I've been over
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  Speaker 2: here for a minute, you know, since I was eighteen,
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  Speaker 2: since I started my modeling career. So that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's always good. So it's cool to be recognized.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it is.
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  Speaker 2: And you deserve artwork, so it's good. It's been a
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  Speaker 2: good week.
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  Speaker 1: After watching this episode of Real Housewives of Orange County,
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  Speaker 1: there may be some additional people that need pastor bail.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you need to leave these hands on
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  Speaker 2: some of those ladies.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, we need to go full blown. I mean it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting really excited for the finale. When they're all
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  Speaker 1: dressed in these over the top costumes fighting the world,
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I couldn't even focus on what they were saying
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  Speaker 2: because I was so blown away by the level of
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  Speaker 2: commitment that they went that they had with these costumes.
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  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So is Tamra a joker? What is she like? I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't really tell. She's maybe a joker. I think Jen's
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  Speaker 1: like a lion. We'll get We'll be able to see
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  Speaker 1: it more next year. I was like trying to decipher
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  Speaker 1: all the costumes. Taylor feels like she had maybe a
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  Speaker 1: Craigs moment that times five. I didn't even know what
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  Speaker 1: she's talking about. And while So it's so crazy because consecutively,
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  Speaker 1: while I'm watching Taylor on Orange County, I'm also doing
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  Speaker 1: podcast prep for the Me and Taromas flashback episode of
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season one. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: the original tailor and I'm just like, it's my mind
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  Speaker 1: can't take it. But any who, any who, any who?
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  Speaker 1: The best moments from this episode. It starts off where
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  Speaker 1: the women tell Tamar to go apologize to Jin for
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  Speaker 1: bringing up other women. Tamra says, I never sugarcoat anything.
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  Speaker 1: If you can't handle the truth, you can't be my friend. This,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like this is at a lunch
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  Speaker 1: or dinner table all the women start to kind of
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  Speaker 1: get involved here. I kind of wish, still waiting on
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  Speaker 1: this moment, that Jen and Tamar have an official sit down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: without everybody else, right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I feel like, no, well, no, they didn't know
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  Speaker 2: they were still at an event, but they kind of
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  Speaker 2: went to the side and talked. But obviously the talk
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  Speaker 2: didn't work because we're back to square one.
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  Speaker 1: So and do we think that we're back to square
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  Speaker 1: one on this talk because Vicky is bringing it up
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  Speaker 1: again and then Tamra's just doubling down or what do
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  Speaker 1: you think's actually happened.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean, I think Vicky definitely added
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  Speaker 2: to it. But I don't think Tamra's done here. I
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  Speaker 2: think Tampra is still throwing a sparkler on I don't
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  Speaker 2: think Tamra's done here. I think she is still throwing
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  Speaker 2: a sparkler on the fire. Okay, And I told you
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  Speaker 2: guys on the last episode, I am done with Jen
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  Speaker 2: and Ryan's relationship. If those people are happy, those grown
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  Speaker 2: people are happy, I'm completely fine with it. I personally
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  Speaker 2: feel like, you know, when tamras it, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: she's your friend and she's gonna tell you what or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: tell me once. But here's the thing, don't tell me
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  Speaker 2: as my friend. I heard you, and I'm still going
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  Speaker 2: to do what I want to do.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree on that. However, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about somebody else at this point because Jen's
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  Speaker 1: reaction what she calls Ryan. Okay, So I think this
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  Speaker 1: is additional tea because you can see, like and listen,
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  Speaker 1: I have been in a situation where you're not trusting
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  Speaker 1: somebody and you're having a conversation. You can hear that
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  Speaker 1: in Jen's voice, like Jen is essentially pleading with it.
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  Speaker 1: In my opinion, Jen is pleading with Ryan on that
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  Speaker 1: phone call to tell her the truth. And I mean
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  Speaker 1: because Tama had said he fucked other people from her Jim, Wait,
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  Speaker 1: not just that, okay, No, not just the one night
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  Speaker 1: standing on the break. Now's there's more people.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's different. Then I guess we have to
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  Speaker 2: keep the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: We have to keep that. Yeah, No, if there's additional
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  Speaker 1: humans brought into the mix, we've.
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  Speaker 2: Got we're back open from anywhere. We're gonna unpack this.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the bottom of it for once
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  Speaker 2: and for all.
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  Speaker 1: I do also love the Tamra is wearing her Vena hat,
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  Speaker 1: but she forgot to pack her happy Place gummies for
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  Speaker 1: this trip, because so far this trip is anything but happy.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, it actually was not that much fun to watch
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  Speaker 2: this trip. I have to say, I would have to
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  Speaker 2: agree with that, but you know, let me just go
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  Speaker 2: to my girl gen really quick, and I think she's
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  Speaker 2: gonna come up again in a minute. But I just
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  Speaker 2: feel like, you know, for some reason, I'm an impath.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like jin who I don't know, but I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm going to claim that she's an impact
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  Speaker 2: as well. This woman just seems to be just a
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  Speaker 2: very sweet woman. You know, she just seems like a
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  Speaker 2: good lady. And here's the problem when good people come
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  Speaker 2: on shows like this, even if they don't care, because sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, just from being on the show, like
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  Speaker 2: some things people say, You're like, I don't care what
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  Speaker 2: those people do, I don't care whatever on the show.
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  Speaker 2: In real life, you get to not like here or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: But there just has to be I'm just craving and
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  Speaker 2: dying for jin to just snatch everybody together and just
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  Speaker 2: tell them something, even if it's just a go fuck,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know some.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there has to be.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, whether it's everybody shut the fuck up about my relationship,
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  Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out on my own.
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  Speaker 1: But I think what everybody's missing in the group and
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  Speaker 1: why they can't let it go, is that she is
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  Speaker 1: so steadfast on I know this is all fine. We've
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  Speaker 1: done this where I feel like all she had to
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  Speaker 1: say is, guys, let me figure it out on my own,
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  Speaker 1: get it. I let me figure this shit out on
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  Speaker 1: my own. I didn't ask you to investigate for me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. If I get bit in the ass, it's
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  Speaker 1: my own fault to get bit in it's mine. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me stumble through this ship on my own. I
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  Speaker 1: was in a marriage for a long time. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: putting words in her mouth. I have no idea I
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  Speaker 1: was in a marriage for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody has to Yeah, Like, I think we can explain
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  Speaker 2: better than she get at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like unfulfilled I'm now in a situation where we
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  Speaker 1: have a bunch of kids involved between myself and Ryan
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  Speaker 1: and we're figuring this shit out. Do I have concerns
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  Speaker 1: that he's gonna screw me over?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Do I get it? Do I need you to be
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  Speaker 1: the I mean, let's also be clear. I guarantee that
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  Speaker 1: even if they were on a break for the first cheating,
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  Speaker 1: she has had moments where she's looked at his phone
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  Speaker 1: or gone in his DMS or just snapchat. She's done
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  Speaker 1: some kind of investigating on her own. And that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of where we got to leave it. Like she now
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  Speaker 1: knows whatever she knows or whatever she chooses to believe,
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  Speaker 1: is on her. But you could hear Ryan's voice in
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  Speaker 1: this moment. He almost did sound a little scared.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we will see, we will see how this thing
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  Speaker 2: plays out. And I just, you know, I root for them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a lover of love. You know, they seem to
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  Speaker 2: be very in love, and like I said, I just
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  Speaker 2: feel for Jin and I just want her to just
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  Speaker 2: get these women off her back, because until she actually does,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna let it go. I just don't.
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  Speaker 1: My one hot tip for you, Jen, because I know
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  Speaker 1: you're going to. In my opinion, you'll be back next year.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're a good addition to the show. Is
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  Speaker 1: if you want people to stop talking about your relationship,
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  Speaker 1: give us something else. Yep, that's true. Give us something
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  Speaker 1: about your life, let us in, let us know who
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  Speaker 1: you are, let us know where if we only see
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  Speaker 1: you being mother Teresa at home. Yes, no one is
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  Speaker 1: great all the time. No one is fostering kiddies and
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  Speaker 1: being the best mom ever and running gyms and some
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  Speaker 1: shit is hitting the fan. Give us whatever shit that
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  Speaker 1: is where show us, show us that, and then I
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  Speaker 1: feel like everyone will back off. But everybody just I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, especially when you're watching House as you see
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  Speaker 1: it with Heather as well, when you give the illusion
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  Speaker 1: and I've done it as well, that life is perfection,
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  Speaker 1: people are going to poke holes in it. Absolutely, And
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think it's because of jealousy. It's because
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  Speaker 1: it's what is created when you're on a show like it's.
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  Speaker 2: All they have right now. It's like a dog on
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  Speaker 2: a bone until you give him another bone, he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: keep knowing at that one bone.
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  Speaker 1: Find a new bone, he canna that one, and it'll
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  Speaker 1: hurt less.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, this phone has no more flavor left, but we
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  Speaker 2: are still chewing on it. It's like, oh, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like like it's nothing left anymore, but we are
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  Speaker 2: grasping for crumbs. Here this bone. Give us a fresh
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  Speaker 2: new bone. Please.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like by the end of this reunion, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna have any teeth left.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we're talking, okay, Yeah, Like, come on.
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  Speaker 1: Girl, and just you know what, fight with anyone, call
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  Speaker 1: like anyone. Yes, yes, you can get mad at Gina
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  Speaker 1: again because Gina was the one that originally brought it up.
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  Speaker 1: Do whatever you gotta do. I'll tell Tamor to mind
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  Speaker 1: your own fucking business like it tells, tell Vicky, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know you, and shut your pie hole.
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  Speaker 2: But Anywayeah, no, it's true. That's true. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then Emily says that it's messed up that Heather called
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  Speaker 1: her a snuff love igus your favorite word, and that
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  Speaker 1: Emily says it's not fair for Heather to crack jokes
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  Speaker 1: but then get sensitive when anyone says something about her.
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  Speaker 1: Gina says it must them from her childhood because her
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  Speaker 1: mom puts her down a lot, which I can thank
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  Speaker 1: you editors. I appreciated the flashback scenes to her mom
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  Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have had that insight because I don't
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that her mom puts her down a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but you can see that her mom is one of
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  Speaker 1: those personality types that it's like never quite good enough,
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  Speaker 1: right right, right, okay, because you know she like says
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  Speaker 1: something like, oh, let me reset the table when I'm
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  Speaker 1: at a restaurant, or she said something and you could
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  Speaker 1: tell you could tell that it it irritates Heather.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Is she like, you know, shutting her down or
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  Speaker 2: she just being a mom who, like you know, all
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  Speaker 2: of our moms, like my mom like doesn't shut me down.
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  Speaker 2: But I could totally see her coming in and overstepping,
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  Speaker 2: overstepping every boundary in my house, like setting the table,
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  Speaker 2: like my mom literally comes in here and moves furniture
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  Speaker 2: around if she feels like and I'm like, what's happened,
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  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I thought that lamp goold looked better
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  Speaker 2: over there. Yeah, Like, you know, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: think at the end of the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: I do feel I felt so bad for Heather on
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  Speaker 2: this episode, Like I do feel like she's being you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of a she was kind of a punching bag
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. And I just feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to like certain shade, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like because she's rich, she doesn't get to
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  Speaker 2: throw the same shade or make the same jokes. Because
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  Speaker 2: I honestly feel like had Tamra called Emily a snuff
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  Speaker 2: and uhing bliss.
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  Speaker 1: Of whatever it is, that I would I think if
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  Speaker 1: Tama called her a stuff a loveagus, she would be
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  Speaker 1: raked through the coals. She would Okay, Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's certain things like I think that when I also
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  Speaker 1: think when it comes to bodies and when women are
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  Speaker 1: going through stuff, and clearly now Emily has done this
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  Speaker 1: big transformation and all of these things. So I think
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  Speaker 1: there are certain things that if you're not one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, something in your skin, yeah yeah, okay, all right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I could see how that could be a trigger.
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  Speaker 1: Like that would bother me. Like you know, there's people
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  Speaker 1: that there was this one time that I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: was when my first month, my husband and I was
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  Speaker 1: out of dinner. And I'm not trying to like sidetrack,
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  Speaker 1: but I just I remember this happened over fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: this happened fifteen years ago and it still resonates with me.
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  Speaker 1: When I was sitting at a table and it was
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  Speaker 1: like a big birthday I just brought Edwin. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: my birthday, it was a friend's birthday, and this guy
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  Speaker 1: sat down across from us and we got introduced.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'm Teddy Mellencamp. I said I'm Teddy
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, my gosh, I know it Teddy,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like shit, And I didn't had no
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  Speaker 1: idea where he was going with it. And it was like, ugh,
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  Speaker 1: she was this chubby bitch that worked at CIA. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this senough of love of guests means
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  Speaker 1: chubby or any of those things, but like, but it
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  Speaker 1: is a big but it is a big, furry animal.
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  Speaker 1: But I remember at that table not only thinking, holy shit,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe this is how this person thinks of me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, years after I've had this job, but also
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  Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed that Edwin even heard somebody talk
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  Speaker 1: about me that way. I didn't even admit to him
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  Speaker 1: that it was me and I had met him before.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was like, I just let it go. And
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  Speaker 1: still to this day, I bother you. I remember it,
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  Speaker 1: so imagine it on national television. Okay, you're right, you're
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  Speaker 1: right when when weight issues come into it or anything
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  Speaker 1: regarding women's bodies, that's tough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I I agree. I mean even like I
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  Speaker 2: was actually when I was when I was thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I remember my ex husband Peter. They called him. His
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  Speaker 2: nickname on the show was Papa Smurf, which he you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's just be honest, Papa's Smurf is not
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  Speaker 2: hot or anything. He's not that cute, all right, And
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  Speaker 2: then Peter he did kind of have like a little
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  Speaker 2: Papa Smurf thing going on. But it was like I
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  Speaker 2: was like, okay, So I was just like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it is what it is, and we just kind of
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  Speaker 2: he just kind of laughed about it or whatever. But
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  Speaker 2: I understand how this could like be a little sensitive
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  Speaker 2: for for our girl Emily.
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  Speaker 1: So and it's multiple times now where it's been Emily's body. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: other time Heather brought you know, remember she showed the boobs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh just look there, Emily, there's your big old boobs.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I can just imagine. I'm and I'm really not coming
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  Speaker 1: down on Heather. I do feel like Heather. It's not
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  Speaker 1: great for her this episode. It's a lot coming at her.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, it's a lot more coming at Gin.
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  Speaker 1: And she's a season one er, probably dealing with a
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  Speaker 1: cheating boyfriend. So I feel like if I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: pick who I felt worse for in this moment, it
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  Speaker 1: ain't neither.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it's true. It's true, definitely Gin. Yeah, But
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  Speaker 2: do you I wanted to crawl into my computer and
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  Speaker 2: the only show and just helped Gin out at that table.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, go ahead, and then do.
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  Speaker 1: You agree that Heather condition but take it? Do you
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  Speaker 1: think she lacks a sense of humor? I think Heather
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  Speaker 1: is her best self and the confessionals, yes, yeah, Then
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  Speaker 1: what the women she I think when she starts to
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  Speaker 1: not feel comfortable, that's where she gives that air of
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  Speaker 1: I'm above this, and then that just pisses them off tenfold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I have to and I'm I'm It's
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  Speaker 2: not that I'm on Heather's side, but I do have
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  Speaker 2: to lean into what the other women say all the
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  Speaker 2: time on the show, is that I just don't think
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  Speaker 2: Heather is super aware of how her little digs land like,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think she is intentionally coming in to
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  Speaker 2: really be offensive. I just think she's just like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: oh you're so cute. And then it's like she caught meute,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I asked her to be at my
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  Speaker 2: mom whatever. And I just don't think she's thinking or
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  Speaker 2: overthinking like what she says. I just think she's who
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  Speaker 2: she is and it just lands where it lands. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know, the ladies you know, were just like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it hits wrong sometimes, but I just think
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  Speaker 2: she just doesn't right.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you also agree, if you're actually really close to somebody,
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  Speaker 1: you can kind of make jokes that the other ones take,
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  Speaker 1: a person takes. But if you're not super close, then
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  Speaker 1: you're always looking for it to be something to hurt
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  Speaker 1: your feeling.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Like Teddy, you could literally call me a snuff snuff
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: up whatever, a snuff of love, I guess all day
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and I have my asshole. It would call me and
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that all you want, hey, all day long, and it
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: would just be the funniest thing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Ever, because I know the undertone is that we love
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: each other and we're making light of a situation and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. But if you're there's not
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: that true bond. There's always going to be awkward ship.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Not just say you know what, let me say this
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: is really quick, because I thought about something like some
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: of the ladies that I am closer to on the show,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I remember like, you know, you know, Kenya is someone
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that you know, used to be super super close to
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: on the show, and she would like take digs at
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: me and I would just kind of laugh it off.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't really be offended because we kind of play
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: with each other like that. And then on the show,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the lads would be like, I can't believe you'd let
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: her talk about your wines that are like that. Oh
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: my god, she was being so disrespectful to you, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And I honestly was like, my friend, kid, Like she's
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: my friend, so it's not disrespectful. Yeah, And I remember
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: catching a lot of flight from the other castmates that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I was not as close with, and they just felt
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like she was being disrespectful and I never looked at
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: it that way.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And then but then it can take a turn and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, But but that's where if
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you can set boundaries, that's where you can go if
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you're true friends, you can go all right, this is
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: actually enough?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah enough. Yeah, And that's exactly what happened. There was
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: definitely a point where it was like, okay, I know
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you're joking, but I don't like this this way. Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: like it's going on too long. Once okay, but you
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: keep going back to it.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and and Tama and I've had the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: same discussion. It's something so silly, but like she always
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: thought it was funny to say John Mellencamp's daughter, like
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: just and finally I just said, listen, I don't know why.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of my dad. I love him, but
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: this actually it bugs me, right, it's I laughed the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: first couple of times, but like, please, as as my friend,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: stop stop saying it. And she respected it because if
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you but if you just keep taking it and you
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: don't actually say it, then people aren't mind readers. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: if you laugh a couple of times, then they think
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you think it's funny.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Too, exactly, And that's why boundaries are so important. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I've just said, like I'm the boundary queen now, like
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: as soon as I feel like someone's crossing the boundary,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: whether it's my mom, where's my kid, whether it's my friend,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: whether it's anyone you know, anyone I'm dating. I'm like, uh,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that does not make me feel comfortable. Yeah, please respectfully,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Respect my feeling Like yeah, and I know you may
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: not mean it as anything, but it's just something for me.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Let's not.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also did find so then they're like
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: on these excursions where they're like doing turtles and parasite
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: sailing and whatnot. But I find it pretty funny that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Vicky had the nerve to say I was annoying and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: then she acts like that while she's parasailing.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a mess there. She was a mess
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: from the moment she gets strapped in so the moment
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: they took her out. And it's likely I pair sail
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: for the first time like last year, like two years ago, whatever.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And I mean once you get up there, like at
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: first it is like oh my god, him, my god,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: my god. But once you get up there, she's kind of.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Relaxing, like, yeah, it's not scary. It's not like they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: were gonna land and then have to ski on the water.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Like they pull you right back into the boat like
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I've done it one thousand times, Like it ain't that bad.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And also she.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Didn't jump out of a helicopter. Let's go, didn't jump
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: out of a plane backwards like like that. Then that
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: would be like something like that would take me out.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: But like, I would never do anything like that. I'm
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: not a beinterest like that anyway.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But Heather cracked me up at this point when she's like, imagine,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: imagine you're at Codo insurance and they're sharpened pencils and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: post it's everywhere.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And emails to return, go back to that place. That
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: was That was funny, and I love how the editing like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I love how the editors like put that together. It
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: was cute.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: That was funny. Then and we get to dinner. Yes,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: at dinner, Vicky says Ryan is the problem and that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Jen should have made her marriage work for her kids.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Gina says, you don't even know Jen, and you don't
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: know the history. Vicky says that she left her husband
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for a loser and she will never forgive herself, so
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: she hopes Jen didn't make the same mistake. Okay, first off,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: if Vicky would have led with Jen, I just have
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to say this, I left my husband for a loser
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and I still don't forgive myself to this day, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: really hope you don't make the same mistake. That would
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: have been all right. But she didn't. No, she didn't,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: she didn't. She made it about you should have made
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: your marriage work for your kids.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And I think that is such an anodle your family,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: all these things.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I I was like, what are you doing?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like Vicky was completely one thousand percent out
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: of blind to come at that lady like that, who
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: she is still getting to know? I believe, like I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: don't even think she really knows her that well. I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: don't think. But even if she did, like I could know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I could know you for one hundred years. You don't
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: get to tell me how to live my life and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: what I should do and when what I shouldn't do,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: because everyone at that table has been in relationships that
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: have had issues, and they have stayed for as long
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: as they wanted to stay, and left when they felt
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: like leaving, period point blank. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So but I do love that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I do love is when a woman
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: tries to, you know, to say, hey, you know what
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I feel you I've been in that space before. You know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I'm rooting for you, guys. I'm praying for you guys.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And that's it. You give love. You don't come and
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: say you just should have done and you should have
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: did that and what is wrong with you?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: No?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, not completely.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I mean even I was offended for Ryan when Vicky
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: was comparing him to Brooks, because you know, Brooks is
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the guy that pretended to have cancer on the show.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Like Brooks is the worst of the worst. Yeah, And
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that's like you can't even compare the two.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: No, that's not the same.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: It's just not the same. Somebody, you know, potentially being
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a womanizer and somebody that pretends that they have.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: A Yeah my mom is a breast cancer survivor.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like it's just so sick on so many levels
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that like you really can't compare. But also this is
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: just another moment where, like Jen watching back, you have
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to figure out where you're going to step in. And
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: maybe she's not because she's just actually worried about a relationship, yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Or I just don't think she's a confrontational person. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: just don't think she's comfortable like confronting people or being confronted.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Like she just looks like she just kind of shuts
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: down when people come at her, and it's like I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: can feel her will's turning. But she just does not
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: seem like she's a confrontational person. But what I did
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: think was funny was the fact that Vicky did come
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: at her. And then there's a scene later on what
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Vicky's like. I don't like what when when women argue?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I want to be like positive. But whatever she was saying,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: remember she got a pot.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't you worry? Well ended that because I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: have a lot of thought.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll say that, but I'm just gonna leave it
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: with you know, I just think Jen is not a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: confrontational person.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think I think she's a people pleaser, which.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You might be, and I and I relate to that
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: because I used to Yeah, I was like the biggest
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: people pleaser ever those days that ship has sailed.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: That I used to be. Now, yeah, so you you
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: could see people now.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Take your kindness for weakness and all of those things,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and unfortunately, on the platform like this, you actually just
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: look weak if you won't defend yourself or defend your man,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: or you know, just step up in a way just
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: for your own and integrity, you know, what I'm And
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's from her just to like say, hey,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: because we at this point, we're good. I'm good with
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Ran just I just need you to get everybody together
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: that keeps coming.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: For you and Ryan. But I think also when I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: think there's something about being on a show like this
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: where you feel afraid to admit weakness or fear or
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: sadness or any or vulnerability, where I think if she
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: would have had that same conversation that she had with
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Ryan with the women, if she would have let herself
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: break down for a second and say, of course I'm
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: afraid of all of these things absolutely, oh my god,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: then they would have had to stop.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Coming, absolutely, because then they would have just looked like
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: a bunch of assholes at that point. Yeah, And I
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: think that's what we're missing as well. It's not even
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: she didn't even have to confront them at this point,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: just give us that moment, like you said, where she
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: could just say, you know what, ladies, I just want
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: you to know that I really appreciate you guys, really
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: care about that you care about me.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And I know this is hard.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I hear all of you, and I receive everything, but
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I am completely in love with this man, and I
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: just wish you guys could just give me a little
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: grace and just let me follow my heart and let
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: me see how this works out for me. But I
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: hear you, guys, and I love you guys for being concerned.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're gonna do with that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Like, there's nothing to do with that after except be
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: left the hell alone.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Yep. Then then we get on like the bus or
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: wherever the hell are going now. Emily says that Heather
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: finally followed her back on Instagram. Heather says that she
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: unfollowed everyone when she left the front because she had FOMO.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Emily tells Heather that when you say you don't fit in,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: this is maybe the reason why. Heather says she has
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: become the punching bag this trip and she can't do
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: anything right and Heather just wants to go home. Would
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you be offended if someone from your cast unfollowed you
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: after leaving the show? But hold on. So the part
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that didn't fully add up to me was she said
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: she unfollowed everyone when she left the friend group. So
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that makes sense if you're going to say you're unfollowing
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Vicky and Tamra and Shannon and all of the cast
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that was currently on the show. However, Heather left season
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: eleven and Emily and Gina came season thirteen. You would
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: think once Heather came back on the show, she would
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: follow her current cast, right, but she did not. So
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: now she's letting them in bit by bit, and I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I can see where that pisses them off.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Heather's following me, damn it, I'm not.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Heather's not following me, but I'll check just
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: for oh.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: My goodness, Heather, you better be following me, because I
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: think I follow her after I started doing the podcast,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: But after I started doing the podcast with you, I
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: started following these ladies because now I'm all up in
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: their business and I feel like they're my friends.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Following her the follows me. She's not following you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I think so she is not following me that you,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: oh my god, you can at least follow me. I'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: going to be the bigger person and continue to follow Heather.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: But why don't I do kind of the way that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you're not following me, Heather, because I ride for you.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Can you send her a DM right now and say
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: why don't you follow me?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: She will see this podcast. Okay, and she would know
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: damn well that she needs to be following me.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So I am my friend.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I've never met her, but she knows that we would
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: get along if we ever met.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But but anyway, So what was the question?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: So should would you be would you be offended if
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: someone from your cast unfollowed you or never followed you?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I at this point I would appreciate or
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: follow from anyone, whether I work with you or not,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: because I'm trying to stay Okay, don't following me if
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you follow me, that's number one. No, Like, seriously, cast,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: if it's a cast member that I just do not
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: get along with, this person can't stand me, I can't
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: stand them. I'm completely fine with them not to follow me.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But if I feel like we're in a good place, respectfully,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: anyone anytime, you know, after being on the show for
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: eleven years, you know, people came and went on the show,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and if you were on the show, I just followed
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you because you were like word of the group. Now
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And this is like a courtesy,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't really overthink It's like, oh, what's your Instagram?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Like I followed just anyone, Like if anyone from the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: current cast not follow you.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: No, probably I haven't checked. I think most of them
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: follow me still. But here's the thing, this is what
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I say. I'm a big fan of muting you. Okay,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: going back to the whole uh, if you're missing out
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: thing or just not wanting like, that's not everyone that
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I've worked with on the show who I just want
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: to see on my timeline.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to go so far as to.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Block them because I don't want to be like, oh,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Cynthia Bailey, but I don't.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Even want them to know now.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But I don't even them that much. I don't exactly exactly,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: but I there's so many people mute it that I
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: just s don't want to see their lives, and I
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: completely encourage them to mute me as well. If they
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: don't want to see mine, just keep following me, girl,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: it's not that serious. Just mute me and then I'm gone.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Well, you we do know that they're definitely digging in
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the bottom of the cereal box looking for a prize.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: When you start a fight about Instagram and then Gina
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: telling us what Instagram is, Instagram's actually where you follow
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: people you like and like things and then call on
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the post. And but I do have to say it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a sad state of affairs that even Sutton and Garcel
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: follow me. Still the Heather's not following her current cat.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They're supposed to be her friends.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just tracked.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But Denise, I'm blocked from Denise. I can't see her.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: It's as if she doesn't exist on Instagram. I'm pretty
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: sure since she's an only fan, she's probably got Instagram.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I for me, it's I don't take my
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: social media that seriously, obviously, but I do try to
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: protect my energy.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And you're like, I don't take my social media seriously,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: not obviously. Every week on the pod, hey guys, just
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that I can get to.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Please please follow me Cynthia Valley with a little blue
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: check mark, all right, and once you follow me, do
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: not unfollow me. Okay, your ass all time to follow me.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Do not be trying to jump ship late. Okay. No,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: but I don't take my Instagram at seriously, No, seriously, Okay,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I take that part seriously. I enjoyed people actually wanting
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to see what I have going on. Okay, but in
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: terms of like, now, if you hate me, don't follow me. Okay, yeah, no,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I don't need that. I don't need you to come exactly,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: only like the people that like me to follow me. Okay,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: let me be very clear about that, all right. So
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: but yeah, well it's it's crazy. I feel like Heather.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like, just okay, this is
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a bullet that Heather could have dodged by just following
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: everyone in the group follow ask about everything else. So
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: she's just giving them ammunition at this point.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I am sure shaman's are wonderful, lovely, eye opening, but
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: they're not made for housewives. That seem like a bunch
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: of beasts, bs like I can't even imagine, Like what no, no, no,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Tamra and Jen, both of them, they didn't even know
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: what to say. They're like, I want peace. I want
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to like have no hate in my heart, no shit,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: So do I join the club? Dreamon?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I love Shaman personally and we we I feel like
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: every franchise has that trip that they mostly when they
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: go see a shawman. It just is part of the
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: fabric of this Like I.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Feel like it's the same shaman. It's like that therapist
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that's out in Atlanta. It's like they just made the rounds.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Do I feel
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: like in the whatever time they smit with the shaman
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that jin and camera oh got to magically got to
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: this better place of peace and love and clarity.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like the shaman would have had to dig
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: a little deeper, maybe do a personal session with the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: two of them, you know what I'm saying. I pulled
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: them to the side, let the other ladies leave. It
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: just felt like, you're like, yay, okay, we're here with
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the shaman and now we love each other again.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that was a little rough. Then they get
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to the restaurant where they have to they think they
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: have to cross the net to go sit with everybody else.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: And I have a feeling if somebody was holding an
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: orange at the end of that net, Vicky could have
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: run her ass across real quick.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Matter of fact, even if there wasn't
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: an like how far is the jumpet?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Give me a pair of wings and I'll flop my
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: ass over there.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Fine, love, VICKI, Oh my god, that's hilarious. But now
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Shannon is literally me like she is afraid to do everything,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: like when she's on the.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Boat, like getting ready to go with the turno, bruised
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: up from my flat to side, the slip and slide,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: like her trying to like go across the net like
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I thought I was a pussy.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Shannon is my girl, Like I am so much braver
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: than she is across the board when it comes to
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: be an adventuress with things, because she they show flash backs,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: they show flashbacks of her. I think they were doing
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: some other like maybe zip line into something. When I
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: tell you, this woman and action adventure should never be
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: in the same, Like that's just not her thing.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I think. Also, she tends to be a little light
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: on her feet when it comes to stumbling falling, Like
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: if there's a chair tipping over, it's gonna be Shannon.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Like if you just watch any history of anything, she's falling.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: So I guess I can get that. But the thing
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: that I didn't get was like this is a bridge.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: This isn't like you could fall through it. It's not
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: you weren't it wasn't a tight rope. You weren't having
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: to like balance, like you're at the freaking circus.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: To walk across and in all seriousness, it's a beautiful restaurant.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Obviously it would be. These people are not trying to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: get soon, so they're not gonna can cock some way
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: for you to get to the table that you could
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: actually get hurt.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: This is where things get askew. Heather says tear was
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the one talking badly about Emily. Tamra says she was
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: repeating what Heather said. I'm with a bunch of fucking losers.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Tamra says Heather was the one calling them losers blah
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: blah blah. So I know all the backstory here. This
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: isn't anything Tamer told me. I lived it, breathed it,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: all of it. So back when Tamar was not hired
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: on Orange County yet she was solely doing to teas
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: in a pod with me, Heather de Bro went on
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: her own podcast and said Tamra should never come back
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: to the show because she is a blogger. Now there
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: is no room for her now. Tamra sends Heather a
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: text message and says, why would you say that the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: ratings are down? Like why would you not want me
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to come back on and and help you know, like
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: we're like all of this, and Heather responded, Uh, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: ratings are low because I'm with a bunch of fucking losers.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: So and you know this, This was the response Like
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: this was.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: They had full conversations about it. There was multiple back
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and forth, like cut to Tarma gets back on the show.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: We go to Bravocon together. We walk up to the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: table where Heather and Gina and Emily. I feel like
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Shannon may have been there too, but I'm not sure.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: And Tarma jokingly looks at Heather only and goes, oh,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you're at the table with a bunch of fucking losers.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Heather's eyes like go like this because she knows exactly
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: what she's talking about. But this is a Bravocon. This
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: is not going to come. None of the other women
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: hear it. But at the table, Heather never denies it,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: just like kind of like makes the face. The next day,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I do a podcast at Bravo Con with Tamra and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Shannon Okay, and we're like, oh, hell tam Tama bringing
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: up drama last night saying the fucking losers, and Tarma's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: laughing and she's like it's an inside joke. Blah blah blah.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: That's all the backstory, okay of what's happening here. But
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: now what we're seeing is Heather is all of a
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: sudden kind of trying to flip the script, saying Tamra
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: said that about everybody at Bravo Con. But then she
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: switches her tune and says, oh, no, you know Gina
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and Emily, I wasn't saying that about you. I was
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: saying that about Noela and doctor Jin. Which also I'm like,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: why did doctor Jin and Noela have to get brought
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: into this? They're not even on the freaking show anymore.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: But that's who she's saying she was originally talking about.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: But the point is anyone that says that, shit, it's
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: not great. No, it's not great. But as all this
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: is going down, you know to kind of my favorite
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: part of this is Vicky starts to cry, saying she
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: hates the drama, as if she didn't bring up Jin's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: relationship and what Taman told her twice this trip. Also, Vicky,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I know you want your Orange back, that ain't the
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: way to do it, right at the end, No, uh
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: uh uh huh. Yes, if you want have Heather's back,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: go against Taram or do whatever you need to.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Do go for it.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: But whatever you do, don't say I need to leave
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: because I don't like the drama. Surefire away to not
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: get a job back.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I know, I was very confused by Vickie this episode
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: because I felt like, you know, she came in so
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: hot on the trip, you know what I'm saying, and
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: she had a lot to say, and she was you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: she came in gin and which I thought was completely Uh,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the way she came in her was inappropriate for sure.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Her intentions I think were maybe in a good place,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: but it just didn't land right. And then for her
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: to at the end of this, after basically telling us
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: what she should have left her husband and pretty much
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: he's a damn fool at this point, okay, to literally go,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: you know, walk her hand and see how she doesn't
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: like to argue with women, and you know, all this drama.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like, this isn't me. And then all
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the flashbacks of her also not only just past flashbacks,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: what is Vicky currently doing with me? Oh, she came
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: about me first. I never came for Vicky. Vicky came
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: for me, that's right, I clapped back. And now she
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: has consistently come for me every chance she can get
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: in a public forum like the drama also me. But yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: so then, my love.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: You can always thank the editors for the numerous flashbacks
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: of Vicky going in on people in a very dramatic wam.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: It adds, so you know you got it. It's like
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: you say it, and then those receipts come from editors.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's like, WHOA, I don't know if you should say
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: this thing's clear. I got that light.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: You may as well just said, you know what, keep
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: paying me episode by episode as a friend of I'll
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: come in when I want to come in.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Listen, I pop in and out too. I get it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I get it, like yeah, but you know, well we
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have to we run out of time. The episode ends
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: with four hours later the Trace Amiga's Got drinking and dancing.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Shannon's grateful. Do you wish that you could have been
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: part of that Trace Amiga's dancing party.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely love tequila and I love to dance.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: We need to have our own Trace amigas Tat party soon.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: But Cynthia, love you as always, and uh I will
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: talk to you next week.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: All right, Love you to day, Get luck with your
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: surgery for you.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you nighte