Latest / Pushin' the Cushion / Episode 9- Jason Tyer
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- Corby Scherb: Make the Slim Pushins: What's up everybody? Welcome to Pushing the Cushion Garage Beers. We are supposed to be live on Facebook. I'm assuming we are. ⁓ as always, ⁓ my co-host, the biggest jazz fan that I know, Corby Sherb. Jim Gardner: It is. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah, we we struggled a little bit in qualifying. I definitely let the team down there and ⁓ definitely knew we had to win the team race to give us a little chance later in ⁓ day, but yeah, I didn't know he ran second. I didn't get to see the board after the checkered, but ⁓ yeah, it's always good to be him. Give him a little crap later, but ⁓ hopefully we can stay in front of him in the future and pass a few cars on the web. Four keys this race team going one and two Slim Pushins: And as always, well welcome back from a one re a one show suspension, Jimmy Gardner. Jim Gardner: I'm back. Slim Pushins: Somebody Corby, is that your f is that your T V in the background? ⁓ sorry guys. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Thank you very much. ⁓ sorry guys. Sorry guys. ⁓ but I I need to introduce this guest. This guy was ⁓ I he was like more than a big brother to me. This dude ⁓ from load me up in a helicopter to actually I think my brother ended his racing career on motorcycles. I've known him ⁓ truly since I was in diapers. ⁓ the one and only Jason Tyre. Jim Gardner: Was it your first time? Well suspend you. Jason Tyer: Yeah. Slim Pushins: The legendary Jason Tyre. Jason Tyer: I don't know about a legend, but we're still here. Corby Scherb: For sure a legend. Slim Pushins: Thanks for joining us. Jason when I when I reached out to Jason earlier the week to to see if he would even consider the idea coming on the ⁓ the show, ⁓ he told me he's never been on a podcast before and I assured him that we haven't either. So we're all in this together. Corby Scherb: We're brand new. Jason Tyer: The funny part is the only podcast I've ever actually even watched was your guys, and it's always af it's always after the fact. Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Well, you'll tens of listeners. Jim Gardner: Good. We appreciate it. You're one of the ten tens of tens of gu guys we got. Corby Scherb: It's funny, ⁓ you know, I started seeing some names come across like new followers and stuff like that. Like Bubba Bentley just jumped on. ⁓ I'm sure Fuzz is out there somewhere. He he's still searching through Facebook trying to find it. ⁓ Days of Tire was an absolute legend from Texas, ⁓ still is in Micros I you've done just about all of it. I mean what what haven't you raced? Jason Tyer: Heck, at this point I really don't know. I mean motorcycles, go karts, midgets, sprint cars, micros. I guess anything that's got a motor, we'll race it. If you're dumb enough to let me in it, I'm s I'm dumb enough to tear it up. Slim Pushins: What about that three wheeler behind you? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jason Tyer: That's a ⁓ that's a buddy of mine's ⁓ actually it's that's the guy that was the ⁓ the usher at my wedding. ⁓ it was a three wheeler that was in his family since new and it was rotten away in a tarf up in Michigan and he goes, Hey man, would you be willing to restore this? And so it's just kinda whenever I get time to mess with it, I just tinker with it here and there. So just doing a full frame up restoration on it. Yeah, I think it's pretty sweet. Slim Pushins: That thing's pretty cool. Corby Scherb: I think you know, I don't I don't wanna take anything away from Jason's accomplishments ⁓ in any kind of racing, but ⁓ don't ever let Jason ⁓ let you down when it comes to painting anything or detailing anything or fuck it, we just blew the bottom end out of this motor, so we're just gonna go polish her up, make it look pretty. Jason Tyer: Like Prez always said, if it don't run, chrome it. We'll be the best looking team loading up with the oil dripping out the bottom of it. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: Make it look fast. Jason Tyer: Make it look I swear to God, we was going to Lima one year and I'm like, Man, I need to be working on the XR. And I remember Travis was telling me, dude, y'all need to be like adjusting the valves and things like that. And presidents over there with mother's wheel polish has me polishing the wheels. I'm like, Dad, we're going to race Lima. It's literally racing in a sandblaster. And we're polishing the wheels. But hey, whatever. Jim Gardner: Yeah. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Hundred percent. One hundred percent. Jim Gardner: the opposite of me, you know. My Slim Pushins: Is there a better name? Is there a single better name than president? Jason Tyer: Yeah. Only Prez if you abbreviate it. Slim Pushins: That's awesome. Corby Scherb: I talking about that, I I mean I have to ask this like super early in this, you know, with Prez and how you are and stuff. ⁓ y'all rode you rode for a little while the same eight eighty three team that we rode for and it was ⁓ Jim Wagner, right? And I mean the most j you could dent the tank and he would say just put a sticker on it, like it'd be fine. No big deal. I I can only imagine the conversations you and Prez had on the way home after riding them things. Jason Tyer: Yep. Yep. Yep, yep. Prez absolutely hated those Harleys. He was always world's ugliest bikes, blah, blah, blah. But they were so fast. ⁓ my God, they ran good. Yeah, he hated the way they looked. Just if anybody could see a neon orange eyesore, I mean neon orange wheels, neon orange tanks and seats. And ⁓ my god, dude, the this I don't know if you ever knew the story about me riding that thing down the highway. Slim Pushins: Yes. Corby Scherb: I know. I know. ⁓ yeah. Jason Tyer: Two up with me and President through the Arizona Desert. I don't know if you ever heard that story. That was a pretty good one. So ⁓ me and Prez, we were going out to ⁓ California and we were running the West Coast swing, and on the way home, the van broke down. We had a wheel bearing go out. And so we're living at a love's truck stop in the middle of the Arizona desert for a week with no wheel bearings. Corby Scherb: I don't know this one. Jason Tyer: ⁓ it welded itself to the spindle and it ruined the spindle and we had nothing we could do. So all we had in the back of the truck was ⁓ an eight eighty three, which was Jim's eight eighty three. And ⁓ so here me and President are two up. And now if you didn't know my dad, my dad was not a small fella. And we're rolling down the interstate and we're just so far in the middle of nowhere in Arizona. We're literally driving by state troopers and they're just waving at us. And we're two up on this bright orange eyesore with bright yellow number plates on it, just ripping down the highway and ripping through town just to just to get by and survive until we got the van going. It was a nightmare. Jim Gardner: Holly Holy smokes. Corby Scherb: It's so much different, you know, car racing and motorcycle racing, like how we did it. Like I mean just truly roughing it compared to you know, I mean, I love your kids and I've known Tori and Trenton forever and poor Tiff who has to deal with all y'all, but ⁓ j the difference in living out of a van Jason Tyer: Mm. They're definitely spoiled. They're definitely spoiled compared to what we used to go through. I mean, from living in a van to, ⁓ no, we gotta have a hotel. We're not sleeping in no truck. We gotta have a hotel and it and it has to have inside doors. I don't know if you know that's one of our requirements here. We gotta have inside doors. We're not staying in a hotel with doors on the outside because we can't have anybody break in while we're sleeping. Because Lord Lord knows we're the type of people they're looking at to come rob Corby Scherb: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Slim Pushins: Well Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Yeah, that drive back from Haggerstown, Maryland, stinky and nasty and sweaty, I d I don't think it gets much worse than that one. Jason Tyer: and then how many times do we drive to Hagerstown for a rain out? That was that was the miserable part, you know. But I I miss it, but you know, I enjoy what we're doing now with the race cars and stuff, you know. It's ⁓ something I can at least support and and fund through my side hustle and I mean anybody that knows me knows that, you know, I do have some great sponsors that are behind me and help us Corby Scherb: ⁓ one hundred percent. One hundred percent. Jason Tyer: every week, but, you know, a a big part of what I do in my shop is how I fund fund my racing and I'm and I'm fortunate enough to have a lot of people that that trust me with their race cars and so forth. And, you know, it's it's how I keep rolling. Corby Scherb: Yep. 'Cause you got a big race coming up, man. Slim Pushins: Tell us yeah, tell us what you got going on this weekend. Jason Tyer: Yep. Man, so we've got a race coming up at Boyd on Friday night. And ⁓ so, you know, the micro scene's kind of kind of gone downhill the last couple of years, and I've I've tried and tried and tried and I've fought trying to get it back going. And it's definitely been a struggle. but we ⁓ we got Boyd on board. ⁓ they they gave me a chance. I had a sponsor step up and and donate to the ⁓ the purse. ⁓ Heck ⁓ Tony Bat with AM AMD ⁓ AMD Enterprises, he called me up and said, Hey dude, if you can get us a track, I'll throw in a thousand dollars at the purse. And so that really right there is what got it all kicked off and got me in the door. I called Boyd up, said, Hey, ⁓ you know, it it was funny enough, I didn't know how to get a hold of anybody at Boyd. And just randomly a couple of weeks ago, one of my close friends calls me up, says, Hey, I got a friend that I work with. His kid just got a mini stock. Are you willing to work on it? Yeah, I'll work on it. Bring it over. And it just so happened the mini stock came from one of the guys over at Boyd. And ⁓ I was like, Hey, you mind if I get his phone number? And you know, so I started, you know, calling him and messaging him. I said, Hey dude, here's a deal. I was like, if you're willing to give us a place to race, I'll throw in X amount of dollars. I got a sponsor willing to help out. I said, ⁓ if you'll let me have a place to race, give us a shot. If we have a good turnout, would you consider bringing us back? And you know, after a couple of days and and several phone calls back and forth. He ⁓ he agreed to give us a date. He said, Man, I I got a race coming up. He goes, Will it work? He gave me he actually gave me two dates. He gave me this Friday and then their next event on July 3rd or 4th, I believe. And so I've got a group chat with all the local North Texas drivers and was like, hey, you know, these are the two dates I've I've got. What is my car count going to be out of you guys? And whoever can make whichever event, that's the one we're gonna go with. And this Friday just so happened to be ⁓ the one that took the cake. And so I I got with Boyd and he said, All right, cool, let's make it happen. And I said, Here's the money I can bring to the table from one sponsor. And so he gave me a purse. I made a post. And man, it is it is just blown up. I've been so overwhelmed with with the amount of support from the racing community. ⁓ because I really haven't gone out and looked for any help. It's just Hey, when somebody helps, you know, I throw a thank you out on my social media post or business card or whatnot. And, you know, man, there's just so many people that that have pitched in and it's like, man, the support I'm getting has just been amazing. ⁓ I mean, as of right now, we've raised ⁓ almost forty four hundred dollars. We're we're forty three hundred and fifty dollars is what I have raised to add to the purse. ⁓ we've got a thousand dollars to win, we've got a hundred dollars to start, and then I have a total of Twenty, let's see, I think I've got I've got nine hundred and fifty dollars in cash to award outside of the purse for things such as hard charger, ⁓ soft charger, ⁓ top place in female, one spot out. I mean, I just got all kinds of stuff. And, you know, when people would donate, I'd just say, Hey, you know, where do you want the money to go? Do you want to go to the purse or you want to have a special award? And and man, it's just worked out great. Heck, Corby, even your brother threw in on it. You know, we ⁓ you know, we we got factor fencing in on the deal. So they they pitched in and helped out a little as well. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Well it's e it's kinda easy, you know, being Jason Tyre in national number twelve and you know sadly a lot of people know you and you've always been a good guy and it it's cool, man. It's cool to go back to Boyd too. I know that even me and you have a ton of stories from there. ⁓ and it it's cool to see your kids ⁓ still following you. ⁓ I know that they're not they'll never be Jason Tyre, but ⁓ both your kids rip really good? Jason Tyer: Yeah. Absolutely. Slim Pushins: Those are hard shoes to follow. Corby Scherb: ⁓ both your kids are gonna be there. ⁓ that's super cool, man. ⁓ I know Tori Tor Tory goes really good and ⁓ Trenton, ⁓ like I said, ⁓ I watched you guys race at ⁓ TMS and I said that it is wild to me how long I've watched you race and like how much different they are ⁓ in in the race aspect. Jason Tyer: Yeah the Yeah. It's ⁓ it's been great, man. You know, yeah, like you said, we've been around Boyd for a long time. I mean, I s I think the very first race I ever rode ⁓ was at Boyd in nineteen eighty four. And ⁓ you know, I race there every year from eighty four till I think I g I think Mike sold it in ninety two or three to Wayne Williams. ⁓ and then Wayne ran it for a year and then, you know, about the time Wayne got rid of it was when I started traveling on the pro circuit and so Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jason Tyer: You know, we obviously had our our gap there for a little while and you know, we'd show up for the special events. I think your dad even put on a few races there and you know, we'd come there and run that. But ⁓ but to come back with the kids and the cars and stuff, you know, it's it's you know, I I gotta keep my racing in check. You know, obviously, you know, I race when I can, it's for fun. It is just a hobby and you know, I I try to keep it in check. But man, it truly is so much fun to Corby Scherb: Yeah, for sure. Jason Tyer: to get in there and just and bang on my kids, you know. I mean, racing with your your son and your daughter and and don't think that there's anybody giving anybody any slack, you know? I mean it's there's a lot of trash talk behind the closed doors over here at the house. So, you know, b both the kids, you know, they always want to beat dad, but ⁓ I'm not gonna give it to ⁓ I mean, if they wanna beat me, not a problem. Nothing's gonna make me happier when they drive around me, but you're gonna earn it and I'm gonna I'm gonna drive you just like anybody else. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Mm. Corby Scherb: For sure. Slim Pushins: Kevin Raimi said the exact same thing. Jim Gardner: They ⁓ yeah. Jason Tyer: Yep. ⁓ absolutely. You know, I mean Kevin and Dylan going at it and you you can tell Kevin ain't giving Dylan no slack. I mean, it's at the end of the day, you know, like I've always told my kids, you know, every time I go to the shootout, I go to to the non wing class 'cause it's the biggest class. And, you know, it's at the end of the day I want the toughest competition. I want the hardest one to win because it just means more. You know, I don't want it to be handed to me and you know, it's it's part of it, you know. Corby Scherb: For sure. You know. You you get Slim Pushins: Just Justin Bates ⁓ commented he's curious whether or not you can have his micro ready by Friday night. Say he paid double your hourly rate. Jason Tyer: You know what? Justin's been a good sponsor of mine. You bring it over. I will make it happen. Everybody that knows me knows at the last minute I have no problem burning the midnight oil to make sure their stuff is ready in time. And that's always kind of been the demise of my own program at some points because I always put everybody else in front of my own. But ⁓ yeah, in fact, heck Justin threw in on it too. You know, we've we've got the All American Turf Solutions people on board with helping promote the race as well and pitching in on the purse. Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Corby Scherb: Yeah, man. Yeah. ⁓ Jason, I don't believe that ⁓ Jim Gardner: That's good. I'm I'm I'm I'm just glad to see Justin's phone works. I've been trying to get a hold of him all day. Slim Pushins: Be careful with be beep Be careful with baits. Bates will make an attempt to turf the whole track and it'll be a whole different animal. Jason Tyer: Yeah, yes. Right. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Jason, I d I don't believe that Jason even sleeps. I d I don't think that that's even possible for him. Slim Pushins: No way. Jason Tyer: Man, I tell you what, I I've definitely ⁓ ever since I got out of the hospital with COVID, I've slowed way down. But man, there was some times when it was, you know, I averaged four hours of sleep a night was kind of my kind of my average. You know, it's you know, I get up about five thirty in the morning to go teach at the school and, you know, come home and run my errands or whatnot, maybe catch a quick nap and then it's pack out in the shop until, you know, midnight or one o'clock in the morning and start over and do it again. And that was just kind of Kinda my routine. Slim Pushins: Merle said ⁓ my first race on a motorcycle was at Boyd and I crashed and broke my arm. My first race in a sprint car was at Boyd and I flipped. Jim Gardner: Sounds like. Ha ha ⁓ Jason Tyer: One I don't know, man. As far as all the Sherb boys go, I think I don't think any of them were were strangers to being dirt magnets, that's for sure. But I think of all of them, I think I think Logan was the one that that boy, I swear to God, that boy's made out of balsa wood. That boy's broke more bones than anybody I've ever met. Corby Scherb: ⁓ Logan. Poor thing. Poor thing, man. ⁓ I didn't I didn't crash very often, but when I did crash, that that's me down there on the bottom left. That's in ⁓ Jeeps. Brett Souter's on the right. I can't believe Brett hasn't jumped on here yet. I'm kinda disappointed in him. Him and his kids still go dirt track racing. Jim Gardner: So ⁓ crap. So w ⁓ there we go. Yeah, you sent this picture, ⁓ who'd you say? W it Jason's in it? ⁓ well what what are you sending this picture in our group text for? Corby Scherb: No, Jason wasn't in this one. ⁓ Jason Tyer: Yeah, that's that's a picture of the of I don't know who that is, Corby Scherb: Man, I I we thought it was Robbie Shin or ⁓ like you said, I I maybe it was Justin Davidson, but you said Justin only only rode motocross. Jason Tyer: Yeah, I only remember Justin really doing the motocross stuff. and as far as Shin goes, that was Aaliyah Shin's younger brother, I believe, wasn't it? So I mean it could have been him. I don't know. I was I never really knew him as well as I knew Aaliyah. Corby Scherb: Right. Yes. What, you started riding six hundreds at the age of what, like six or seven, something like that? Jason Tyer: I think I was eleven when I started racing a six hundred. And it it it was the only the reason we did it was because it was all we had. I had an eighty C C bike that we'd been racing and you know, most people went from eighty to a one twenty five, then a two fifty, then a six hundred, and president's over there looking at this six hundred sitting in the corner and we don't have nothing else. He's like, Think you can ride it? I'm like, Well shit, I guess so. We'll figure it out. So we went and I as a matter of fact, I think Boyd was the very first place I rode a six hundred too. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Right. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: I remember ⁓ I like faintly remember I was super young then. I remember the first time Merle ever rode an eighty. ⁓ what was his name? Chris Orr had bought an eighty from you. And you held Merle up on the racetrack ⁓ and it was D F W Speedway back then which turned into Mountain Creek. ⁓ it's such a small world, like I like I said, I just didn't know that the car world was as big as what it was. ⁓ we race motorcycles forever. But I I'll always remember you standing out there holding Merle up ⁓ as he took off on the eighty. He was I what Jason Tyer: Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Mm-hmm. Corby Scherb: Seven, eight years old, something like that. Jason Tyer: Yeah, it it wasn't it wasn't very old, that's for sure. Cause I I wanna say when I really kinda started knowing you guys on a personal level, I know Logan and Lucas were were still in diapers. They were still very, very young. Yeah, pretty much. I tell you what, getting Lucas potty train was the greatest day ever. That was so nice. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Jim Gardner: Last year Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Slim Pushins: That's what we're looking for, the hard hitting stories right there. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Corby Scherb: ⁓ man. Jim Gardner: ⁓ that's awesome. Jason Tyer: ⁓ yeah, they Slim Pushins: I hear I hear Heather I hear Heather's still trying, but Jason Tyer: Poor girl. Yeah, I mean I Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah, she's still working with him. Slim Pushins: Jason, can you can you confirm Corby in preparation for for you being on, Corby has thrown around some motorcycle names that Jim and I have called him out on. People like Tony Turnbuckle and Chewy Chewbacca. Jim Gardner: ⁓ that's awful. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha ha. Jason Tyer: Pretty pretty much they were they're they were all legit. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Come on, man. Slim Pushins: Corky Corky Mc Corky McCorkerson Corby Scherb: Dude, ⁓ the same ⁓ he wasn't much younger than you, ⁓ Tiger Lacey. he was the same age as Brian Smith. ⁓ let's see, let's see who else was around your age. No man, like you almost had to have a goofy name. In Jason Tyre it was Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jason Tyer: Yeah. Yep. Mm. Yeah, and and if you did if you didn't have one, president would make sure you got Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: That's awesome. Corby Scherb: Man, it was I I think that to race motorcycles you had to be a little bit delusional, the same as like you and ⁓ the majority of announcers would call you Tyree until they knew you. Jason Tyer: ⁓ yeah. It was always Tyree and then ⁓ and then it was Race and Jason, then it it was Tex and then it was the Texas Tornado and you know, I think Donnie Bargman is who gave me the Texas tornado one. the first night I made my first Grand National Podium at Houston. And then that one kind of stuck. I think Tex came from Paul Lynch. I think he was the one that actually gave me that nickname ⁓ when I was staying up there with him. Corby Scherb: Way too tall to race flat track. Jason Tyer: ⁓ way too tall. But he was fast. God he was fast. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Slim Pushins: Corby dropped those names. Who were they? Fatty McFaddy McFadden. Corby Scherb: Which ones? ⁓ Fatty Hines, ⁓ Bull Haney, the the old school ⁓ indoor racers, ⁓ Charcoal Chuck or Charlie Orr. ⁓ yeah. It l it lit Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jim Gardner: I wish we could Yeah. Jason Tyer: Charcoal chuck, yep. Charcoal chuck was always a good one. Corby Scherb: That dude was out of control. The same man, I remember it it's so funny, like the the indoor days from back in the day. There was like there was three eighty sevens everywhere we went. You had Brett Brady, you had Charlie Orr, and whoever rode Orban's other bike. One hundred percent you they had eighty sevens. Slim Pushins: Sharkle Chuck. Jason Tyer: Yep. Now now you know how now you know how Charcoal Chuck got that nickname right. You know, he was on the coin mile and he crashed on his XR seven fifty and he was gonna lay there until he drew a red flag, but then the bike caught the hay bales on fire and his Harley went up in flames, so he comes crawling out of the hay bales, and so ⁓ president said he looked like a rat crawling out of the fire, and president ended up nicknaming him Charcoal Chuck. Corby Scherb: Was it at Ducoin? Slim Pushins: That's awesome. Charcoal chuck. Jason Tyer: Yeah, it's Corby Scherb: I remember th there w there was there was so many times. Same ⁓ talking about the pres. I remember Logan was on one of the Husqvarnas that we was riding from Hall's Husqvarna ⁓ practicing at Waco and this thing disintegrated going down the front straight away and shot motor parts everywhere. And your dad walks over to our pits and he goes, I'm arresting ya Logan's like, What for? And he goes, Assassination of the president Shop motor parts. Jason Tyer: Ha ha. Trying to blow pieces all out of me, yep. Slim Pushins: So this we claim that this show is a show of honesty, so we need you to be honest with us. All we have ever heard from Corby is how fast he was. Like he's like the washed up high school baseball player that you know, he's like I I can throw faster than him, I could run I could have run faster than that guy. Was Corby as good as Corby claims to be? Jason Tyer: Yep. Yep. Corby Scherb: I was better in a car than I was on a motorcycle. Jim Gardner: Textbook backpedal. Jason Tyer: I will be a hundred percent honest. When it came to the entire Sherb family, every one of the boys and Scott and himself, every one of them could damn sure hold their own any night on a flat track or at a grand national. ⁓ I was kind of before Corby and Logan and all them guys at the national level. ⁓ so I kind of grew up racing with Scott at Slim Pushins: Egg textbook back pedal. Jason Tyer: I was a young kid growing up racing against Scott and and then I was kind of in between. Then Merle kind of came up and I raced with Merle and then here comes Corby, then Logan and Lucas. And you know, we ran a lot of outlaw races together. But ⁓ yeah, they were all fast. They could all hold their own. I mean, Corby's definitely got his he's he's got his ⁓ how you wanna say it, ⁓ the right to brag, I guess you can say. He ⁓ He did and especially once you started riding the KTM stuff there towards the on ⁓ what was that? What class yeah with Toby, what class was that? It wasn't a super tracker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I ran the super tracker stuff and then they got rid of it. But yeah. Corby and all the boys are fast. ⁓ Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. With Tobert. The basic expert class. No, it was a basic expert's it was basically the same as the super tracker stuff. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Does that mean anything to you, Jim? Corby Scherb: ⁓ no, it was ⁓ that Jason knows, you know, ⁓ Kenny Tolbert man, ⁓ the probably the mo I mean, definitely when it comes to me, ⁓ more more than Bill Warner, ⁓ the most legendary tuner around ⁓ Tolbert, ⁓ he if it even though the bike was an absolute pile of shit that night, Tolbert made you believe you could do it. You know? Tolbert's favorite saying was, You want me to go get a four inch trailer ball hitch and put it in the middle of the seat, you can just sit on that. Jason Tyer: Yeah, yeah. Yep. Yep. yeah. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Jim's about Jim's about ready to go cook dinner while we listen. Corby Scherb: But ⁓ Jason Tyer: Jim's lost. Jim Gardner: I didn't really know it existed when I moved here and I was like, ⁓ these are the the Jason Tyer: Not many n and the funny thing, not many people do. Like, as a kid growing up, I never really told anybody I race motorcycles 'cause they're like flat track, what the hell's that? ⁓ you just go in a circle? That sounds boring. Jim Gardner: It's just not you know Slim Pushins: Corby's Corby's always said the same thing. He's like, none of my friends in high school had any idea what I did on the weekends. They just knew I couldn't hang out. Corby Scherb: No. Jason Tyer: Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Jim Gardner: Yeah. No, it it ⁓ you know, growing up in Cincinnati I could either go, you know, west and see a sprint car race in an hour, or I could go south and would see a dirt late model race in an hour, and that's all I did, and that's what I thought was one step below the NASCAR Cup series, one of those two things, but I didn't really think about it and then I started learning more about it and I figured the Sherbs are the only people that I know in sprint car racing that started doing it because it was safer than what they were doing on the other stuff. Most of everybody else is trying to get rowdy, so Jason Tyer: Yeah. With age comes a cage. You hit your head on the dirt at one hundred and thirty five mile an hour enough times you finally get tired of it because it shit hurts. I Jim Gardner: that's right. Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: I I I bel I believe it. Slim Pushins: Well, I can tell you I doubt I I doubt there's one sprint car driver in in history that can tell a story that, you know, they caught hay bales on fire, so Jason Tyer: Charcoal Chuck. Yeah, you know, and and the way the micro thing really kind of came around for me was ⁓ you know, in 2008, I was fortunate enough to have Merle in my flat track career by throwing a perfect by throwing a perfectly good motorcycle at my face. And ⁓ but no ⁓ but I quit racing, you know, ⁓ when I when I had that wreck, ⁓ Tori had just been born. Corby Scherb: Charcoal chuck, man. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: Ha ha ha. Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Jason Tyer: You know, I think Tori was maybe six months old at the time. And I always had all intentions of dying before the age of 30. I just knew that my time was going to come. You know, we would lose about a rider a year or so. And it just I figured it was just part of the sport and I was okay with it. And ⁓ I crashed at night in Topeka, Kansas. And I was like, you know what? I'm done. ⁓ you know, the fact of just Tory growing up without a father, I'm just like, I I I can't. And, you know, priorities change and You know, I sat at home and I started healing up. You know, it took me six, seven weeks or so, maybe eight, and I'm starting to kind of get back up and moving around and and I was lost. I mean, I was just flat ass miserable. I mean, because at this point, you know, I'm 28 years old. So I had already been racing for 24 years, you know, and here I am. I'm 46 years old now. I'm starting my forty-second year of racing and I've never missed a season in forty-two years. And ⁓ I'm sitting around the house, I'm miserable, and Big Travis called me up one day and we were talking and just shooting a shit and he's like, So what's going on? I was like, dude, I was I'm not happy. I'm like, I'm I'm bored out of my mind. I don't know what to do. Like I'm pacing the living room. I walk out in the shop, there's nothing to work on. And he goes, Man, have you ever thought about these mini sprints or micro sprints? And I'm like, No. And you know, a f a friend of ours, Gerald Ray, you know, I'd watched him run Glenn Stubblefield's cars back at the old DFW Speedway, you know, the old Grand Prairie. And I always thought they were super cool. And I'm like, I don't know. I was like, you know, I I guess it'd be kinda neat. And so ⁓ I called the guy that owned my Harleys at the time, Bill Allen, and I told Bill, I said, Look, dude, I said, I'm I'm done racing flat track, you know, and I got a kid now and and this and that. I said, What do you think about mini sprints? And Bill's like, Well, I don't know. So we shot the shit about it, and Travis knew of a car for sale in Missouri, and I was like, Well What you think? And Bill's like, well, hell, here's a check. Go get it. And we'll try it out. And I was like, so then we, you know, we got the mini sprint. And ⁓ it was so funny because I didn't tell my wife that I was getting it. And Yeah, well well, it well in my mind, in my mind, I'm like, hey, she's gonna love it. Roll cage, seat belt, neck restraints. I mean, so much safer than motorcycles. This is gonna be a great move. Not so much. And Slim Pushins: It's always a solid move. Jim Gardner: I understand that. Ha ha. Slim Pushins: Ha ha ha. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jason Tyer: And so when I told her, ⁓ you know, it's is one of those things that, you know, the car was already bought. It was already on a truck on its way to Texas from ⁓ from Missouri. And it's like, well, you know, I guess at that point it was asked for forgiveness ⁓ instead of permission because it was already a done deal. And ⁓ Travis was always like, Man, you know, you don't have to race full time, just you know, race once a month or every other month or something. Cause at that time micros were huge around here. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Jason Tyer: You know, they're running at Cowtown and having forty cars a night on a regular night. And ⁓ I was like, you know what? I think this'll work. And you know, that that once a month became twice a month. Now it's every month. Now I'm fixing every goddamn car in the Metroplex and I got a whole shop full of them. And I mean it's nothing to have 10, 12 cars in here before the shootout, just trying to get everybody ready. And it's ⁓ it's gone from full time motorcycle racer to I guess full time mini sprint car. So one of them deals. Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Talk about ⁓ so I moved here in fourteen, fifteen, something like that. And I I went to Mountain Creek a couple times just to watch. ⁓ it went away. And I remember micros being at Kennedale, at Waco. ⁓ what happened? You're the you're the micro guy around here. Like what what what happened and what can you do to kind of bring them back? 'Cause I didn't grow up around them either. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. so Jim Gardner: I you know, as I joke with Justin all the time, I'm like, Look, I don't work on them toys that you get you send that to Jason. Jason Tyer: Yeah, yeah. And and that and so, you know, I really don't know what the biggest bitch is about ⁓ to be honest, but I r I do remember back when I first got into it, I thought they were way cool. And and people always think, ⁓ it's a it's a kid's car, it's a kid's class. But what they don't understand, I mean, these things there's a there's a many a night when they're the fastest lap time of the night. But man, there's something about it that ⁓ what I have seen, ⁓ Jim Gardner: Mm mm. Slim Pushins: No. Jason Tyer: People hate us. And and I don't really know why. Like like I remember racing at Cowtown and back then they had a ⁓ it wasn't like a Facebook page. It was like a what was like it was a like where people could go in there and just talk about the races over the weekend. Yeah, they had a forum. They had a cowtown forum and man, it seemed like everybody all a bunch of pissed off bumblebees and man, people always badmouthing to mi badmouthing to mini sprints and ⁓ Jim Gardner: A f a forum. Like a forum. Yeah. Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jason Tyer: You know, all over the years I've I've always tried to figure out what what is the biggest complaint about them and and nobody can ever really tell me much other than they just don't like the sound of them. And I don't know, man. I mean it it is what it is, but you know, I like them. They're super fast. And, you know, they're they're actually a pretty trick little car when you when you break them down. And ⁓ you know, it's I don't know. It for me, I always took to them because obviously it was the first car I got into. But for me, a lot of times I'm by myself out in the shop and and whatnot. And it can be a truly one man show. You know, I at one point I started trying to get my program set. I was thinking about building a 305. I was gonna get a sprint car. So the first thing was, okay, I went and got a bigger trailer. Then I ended up getting a push vehicle, you know, and and then I started driving some sprint cars for a couple other people. And the more I messed with the sprint cars, the more I started to realize like, I can't do this by myself. You know, everything you do is a two man team and and I just I don't know, man. My schedule's always so over the p over the place and I I just I I stuck with the micros and ⁓ it it's just worked for me. But you know, we we were really big around Cowtown and then Cowtown obviously went away and ⁓ it never really took off after that. You know, but also too when I came into it at Cowtown about that time. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jason Tyer: ⁓ you know, you had all your guys like Jeb Sesams and Kyle Jones and you know, all these guys that were really fast in a micro, and then Cowtown kind of went away and they all just went to sprint cars. And it's just I guess they always kind of considered it was like a stepping stone from go-karts to sprint cars was a micro, but then there was nobody to support us. And it's come and go over the years. ⁓ you know, Scott Key had a series for a while with Tower and ⁓ he he did a really good job keeping it kind of going ⁓ locally, but you know, as anything, you know, life changes and he moved on to do bigger and better things and ⁓ people have been after me for years, ⁓ saying that I'm I I I guess I'm the spokesperson for the for the micro scene around here nowadays and you know, everybody's like, Man, you ought start you ought to start promoting races and stuff and Jim Gardner: You are. Jason Tyer: I like promoting like this whole thing with the boyd has just been great and I've loved every minute of it. where I don't think I would enjoy the promoting side is we all know tempers flare at races, you know, emotions are always high. And I'm just the type of person where if I'm the promoter, I'm not gonna be the guy that you come back because of a bad call and you want to cuss me up and down in my trailer. I just, you know, I race for fun. It's a hobby. I love what I do with my kids. And I'm just not gonna have some guy chew my ass. And and unfortunately I feel promoters get a huge short end of the stick for that. You know, it it's you know, so I don't know. I I prom I helped kind of promote a race at RPM several years ago ⁓ with Steve Neighbors and it went really well. ⁓ you know, we raised a bunch of money and we had a good car count and ⁓ I haven't really done much. I've Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jason Tyer: You know, I I I promoted a a ⁓ couple of races just kind of ⁓ and not necessarily promote ⁓ just making a phone call and getting people to open the doors. You know, we ran it big O for the last two seasons. And you know, I think the biggest issue I have with getting it to grow again is so many people are scared to run these things on quarter miles. And and I don't know where that fear has come in because we were getting It was a regular night at Cowtown. We were running two B Mains on a regular Saturday night. Cowtown was just as big as any of these other tracks. So so where and why did it change? Because the cars are still pretty close to the same speed. The tracks are still the same size, but people just aren't showing up, you know. And ⁓ I think with this boyd race right now, we've got ⁓ I think I've got roughly about eighteen, nineteen cars, if everybody shows that ⁓ that that says is coming. ⁓ and I'm hoping to get a couple more stragglers. I think we could probably swing twenty to twenty five cars for for Friday night, is what I'm hoping for. And and so and and if it goes good, Boyd said they would add us ⁓ some more. And it's it's basically it's getting people that say they're coming to come and and stick to their word. Cause we all know, hey man, I got twenty cars that are coming and come race day. You got eight that showed up, you know, and it's just sticking to your word. Jim Gardner: Be awesome. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: You got a you got a car we can put Corby in Friday night? Corby Scherb: You don't want to do that. Jason Tyer: I will put Corby in my car if he wants to come run. ⁓ But he's got a promise to come help rebuild it because I know how it'll get loaded up. Corby Scherb: No, you don't want to do that. Jim Gardner: Do y do you do you know the story of the last time Corby Scherb: No, that Jason Jason's the reason that I even got into cars or e even Logan, ⁓ talking about the old Caltown days. Yeah, Logan went Logan didn't tell any of us brothers and just showed up at Caltown one night and Jason let him drive his car and I'm like, dude, if you can go drive it, then maybe Jason will let me drive it. So I called Jason and ⁓ called Jason, I'm like, Hey dude, I wanna try that thing. Went down there, drove like an absolute lost duck and ⁓ Jason Tyer: Logan was the first. Logan was the first. Slim Pushins: Hehehe Jim Gardner: Ha ha Jason Tyer: It it's so funny, yeah. Mm-hmm. Corby Scherb: I got back home and it was like two weeks later Logan had a micro sitting at the house. He had a P ⁓ P Jacobs ladder car. Everyone was like, You're nuts, don't do it and ⁓ that's that's kinda how we ventured over into the car world. Jason Tyer: Yeah, I've got I've got several people about I think ⁓ I'm the one that got Brian Diebrick in it. ⁓ I got Corby in a car and ⁓ you ran it Cowtown. We built a brand new PMP and ⁓ of Brent Armbrewster's and ⁓ we ⁓ we built that car ⁓ for a customer of my a customer of mine up in ⁓ Michigan, a good buddy of mine, actually, that we we all flat tracked with, and he saw that I was doing it and he wanted a car, so I built him a car and Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brennan mm hmm. Jason Tyer: We built it and Corby went and raced it. He was the first one to drive it at at Cowtown. Corby Scherb: Yep. Mhm. No, it wa that that was actually like decent. It w that was decent. Slim Pushins: How disappointed were you in that decision? Jason Tyer: It actually went pretty good. It went pretty decent. Yeah. I mean we're di we're disappo we're disappointed in Corby all the time, but it's not for the racing side. Slim Pushins: Well Corby Scherb: About the only time ever is I Slim Pushins: Well, his micro career went downhill after that, evidently. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jason Tyer: ⁓ Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. I crashed Logan's car every time I ever sat in it and then ⁓ the same the the shootout incident, ⁓ yeah. I d I don't ever need to be in a micro ever again. Jason Tyer: It's so funny too. ⁓ my gosh. ⁓ Jim Gardner: ⁓ That guy doesn't stand at what night? Jason Tyer: But yeah, the you what? Slim Pushins: Jim, you weren't there that night, were you? Were you Jim, were you there the night he put it in the catch fence? Corby Scherb: But Jimmy was there. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Jim Gardner: ⁓ who do you think pulled it out of the catch? It wasn't the catch fence, it was the grandstands. Who do you think pulled him out of it? Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. And then we pushed out for two other heat races too and the piece of shit wouldn't run and I'm like I'm done. Like I'm never getting back in one of these things. I I'm jinxed. One hundred percent. One hundred percent. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: Well, I mean who Jim Gardner: He was in hot lap session two. Everybody in the building was there watching that thing because everybody had ants ants in their pants. You know, it's the day after Christmas. Everybody's all pent up and want to see the first two sessions. And and I'm standing next to Corby on the ramp. Go ahead and fire that thing off. And I didn't take two steps up the ramp and turned around and his car is in the grandstands off the back stretch. Jason Tyer: We're just setting the bar. Just set the bar early. Slim Pushins: Sh Corby Scherb: They wanted to see me ballpark myself, but I just did it pre ⁓ man. Slim Pushins: That says so much about your Sherb racing career though, Jim. Corby Scherb: ⁓ one one well, not just his Sherb basic career, just Sherb general. Jim Gardner: A lesser man would have just walked away. Slim Pushins: That's what I mean. Jason Tyer: Welcome to the shit show. Slim Pushins: Corby, ⁓ Merle's story a while ago about wrecking the wrecking his first time in a sprint car, what wasn't that the night wasn't that the night that you told him to follow you? Or one of y'all one of you Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, so ⁓ I started front row outside in a three ⁓ five. He started right behind me. ⁓ it was ⁓ an SST race and I said, D dude, just go out here and follow me. Like ⁓ it you can do if I can do it, you can do it. And we took off and I took the lead and one hundred percent and ⁓ we were cruising around and ⁓ I was leading the heat race and ⁓ red flag came out and ⁓ I stopped underneath the flag stand and ⁓ I think it was Jim Gardner: Ain't that the truth? Slim Pushins: Evidently you were wrong. Corby Scherb: ⁓ Brad Shirley that was ⁓ flagging that night and I looked up and I was like, Hey man, was that the seventy eight? I just knew it already and he was like, Yeah and I shit man, it's his first race Drove her off the top of turn two. Slim Pushins: Hey. Jason Tyer: Huh. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Just follow me. Jim Gardner: ⁓ Jason Tyer: There's a the first race was always the hardest. I remember when Brian Diebrick ⁓ decided to get a mini sprint. And ⁓ I don't know where where we got the wild hair up our ass to get this car, but at this point, we're so new to micros, we know nothing. And Brian had this like CJ five or CJ seven Jeep, and we found some shit box car down in Arkansas or something. We didn't know nothing about them. So he goes and trades this Jeep. For this micro and he brings it back. And like I said, this is probably this would have been about 2008, 2009. And like I said, we didn't know nothing about these things. It shows up and I'm sure Jimmy and them guys know about it, but like it had a steel key splined rear axle in it and like just some homemade cra yeah, it was old, it was raggedy. And Brian decides to run Cowtown the first night in it, and he flips it. And there's Brian's got a photo somewhere. I Jim Gardner: ⁓ Yeah. Jason Tyer: I'll send it to guys if he's still got it somewhere. But there's a photo floating around that I believe Rudy Garcia got it. And Brian is perfectly upside down in the air. And the w it's like it literally looks like you just took the car, flipped it straight upside down, and hovered it in the air. Like the wings not crunched, nothing. And then it pretty much disintegrated. That car made one race and it was disintegrated. And then I think ⁓ I think he ended up trading it. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jason Tyer: Maybe a street bike or something. I don't know. He ended up trading something else because once we got into it, now we're just a bunch of dumbasses and we got to keep going. And so then he ended up getting a ⁓ a car from Hefler. And he he got a roller from Hefler and we built him another car and and it was all she wrote from there. Like I said, I got D Brick in it, I got the Sherbs in it. I don't even know why these people are still friends with me anymore because all I've done is cost them money. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: Ha ha ha. Corby Scherb: ⁓ man. No, that sad like I said, like the beginning of the show, man. I've known you my whole life and sadly had to look up to you and chase you down, whether it was in cars or on motorcycles. Jason Tyer: You need better heroes. Yeah, it's Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Just wanted to to grow up one day and be cool like Jason Tyre or Mike Hell or you know, something like that. Jason Tyer: Well. Yeah, it's ⁓ you know, I've like I said, it's been forty two years straight of racing and you know, it's it's been a ton of work, but I wouldn't trade it for the world. And, you know, I've always said that racing family truly is family and and man, I mean that. It's it's ⁓ the people I've met in the racing world, it's it's just people you never forget, you know what I mean? Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Slim Pushins: It's crazy. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. From from my dad unclipping your boot at Blackland, which, you know, small small world, you know, Zimmerman and them. Jason Tyer: Dude, I r I still remember that night. I was so pissed off. So for you guys that don't know, so Black there used to be a place out, I want to say it was in Rockwall or something. It's called Blackland Speedway. Yeah, it it was called Blackland Speedway. It was this little bitty go-kart track. It was a lot like Cam Cartway and just a wicked fast little go-kart track. Well, they decided to start having motorcycle races at one point. Corby Scherb: I think it was like like Rockwall or Roy City, some it was way out there. ⁓ huh. Jason Tyer: And I think I was riding a 250 at the time. Scott was riding a six hundred. And ⁓ man, I just thought I was flying around this place. Me and Scott, we're riding, and I think I'm just tearing this place up. You can't go no faster than me. I'm rolling. And here comes Scott on the outside, and he reaches down and he unbuckles my boot. And then we go into the next corner and he unbuckles another one. And then he comes back. Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Jason Tyer: By the by about three laps, he had my entire right side boot completely unbuckled. And I'm like, How are you doing this? I'm thinking I'm just tearing this place up and here you are riding one handed unbuckling my boot. Slim Pushins: Well. Jason Tyer: ⁓ it was very impress even even to this day, I mean I I don't care how slow I was, just to go down there and find it one handed was pretty impressive. Especially when you're looking at me with one eye. I mean Yeah Yeah. Slim Pushins: That's impressive. Corby Scherb: Man, you know. Very sure. Slim Pushins: I was about to say he's only got one good eye. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Corby Scherb: Like Prez said, he always cheated, man. He had one eye going this way and one eye going that way. He could see both sides. Jason Tyer: Yep. Yep. He'd always say s he'd always walk up to Scott, Scott, look me straight in the eye and tell me the truth. Good lord. Jim Gardner: Yes. Corby Scherb: ⁓ man. So yeah, sadly ⁓ Jace Jason's been stuck with us for a long time, dealing with us, probably wiping our ass more often than not. Slim Pushins: What else we have what else we have this weekend? Jason Tyer: Yep. Yep. But yeah, so so like with the whole boy race thing, you know, like I said, we've got we've got micros, ⁓ wing day class. ⁓ we're gonna we're gonna have several payouts. Like right now, the payouts I've got. We have ⁓ Joseph Wadorski threw in a hundred dollars. He wanted to honor Mike Melton. So we're gonna have a twenty one lap feature. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Picking up the pieces. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Jason Tyer: And the main reason being is because he wanted to give fifty dollars to the leader of lap eleven and the leader of lap twenty-one, because those were the numbers of Mike's cars. ⁓ we've got Mark Mark Ashcraft with Ashcraft Motorsports. They threw in ⁓ fifty dollars for the top placing ⁓ female. ⁓ they're real big supporters of females in motorsport. ⁓ Corby, you remember Kirby Kyle, his son, his son Ty. Remember, remember Ty? Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Yep. Yep. Jason Tyer: So he he's got a place now called LMK Design to do t shirts and hats and stuff. ⁓ they threw in $100 for the one spot out award. So if you miss the feature by one spot, you don't quite get in there. You're still gonna get $100 in your pocket. ⁓ one of my ex students, amazingly enough, Alonzo Martinez, he ⁓ he owns a place called Provision Security Cameras and Wiring. He threw in $100 for ⁓ a soft charger. So whoever loses the most spots in the feature is gonna get a hundred bucks. ⁓ yep. Corby Scherb: Okay. Slim Pushins: Nice. Corby Scherb: Jimmy Gardner's Jim Gardner: Yeah, that's that's right here. At ⁓ at Chili Bowl, it's called the Green Jacket. We were talking about it earlier. It's a really good bit bit on ⁓ Twitter, the Chili Bowl Green Jacket forever can lose the most spots. That's a good bit. I like it. Jason Tyer: Big tr yeah. Yeah. right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ right, right. ⁓ Big Travis, he threw in a hundred dollars for ⁓ as a bonus for the Kyle Bush award. So whoever finishes eighth place in the feature will get a hundred dollar bonus. ⁓ Chad Pardue with ⁓ Black Bear Plumbing, they threw in ⁓ two hundred and fifty dollars for a hard charger. Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Jason Tyer: ⁓ Tony Bat with A and B Enterprises threw in a $250 longest haul. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have somewhat of a driver's meeting at the beginning of the races, and whoever shows up in a micro, ⁓ just show me their driver's license. And ⁓ I'm gonna just do a ⁓ a Google Maps and whoever's got the farthest distance from the racetrack to their house is gonna get 250 bucks cash in their pocket for that. ⁓ Roy Upshaw with Taco Casa, he came in and threw us a thousand dollars worth of Taco Casa bucks. So if you if you like Taco Casa, we ⁓ we got right we got five hundred for the winner, ⁓ three hundred for second and two hundred for third. Mo Moto Yeah. Yep, yep. Moto Moto Liberties jumped in ⁓ the other day. ⁓ I was kind of shocked on that one. It's pretty cool. So Moto Liberty is gonna do the Ricky Graham Award. So kind of a flat track honor deal. Jim Gardner: Good dude. Corby Scherb: Thanks, Roy. Jim Gardner: That's awesome. That's better than money. That's better than money. Slim Pushins: Everybody loves loves those taco bucks. Corby Scherb: That's awesome. Jason Tyer: ⁓ so Ricky Graham, if anybody knows Flat Track, was basically just a legend in the sport. And ⁓ Ricky was ⁓ Grand National number three. And so ⁓ Moto Liberty stepped up and is gonna give a hundred dollar gift card to the third place finisher, ⁓ third place finisher in every feature of the night. So there's seven classes that night, and they said they didn't want to discriminate and give it just to the micro. So it doesn't matter what you're driving, you'll get a hundred dollar gift card to Moto Liberty. Corby Scherb: That's awesome. Jason Tyer: ⁓ even though it is a motorcycle, it's a number one motorcycle apparel store in Texas. ⁓ even though ⁓ it's a motorcycle, they do have things, you know, ⁓ brake fluids and GoPro stuff and all kinds of chemicals and you know, just anything like that. I mean, there are some things that could ⁓ could definitely go towards the the car world. So they threw in some money. ⁓ I've got several people that threw in on the purse. I think we ended up raising another twenty four hundred dollars cash to go on top of the purse. ⁓ But man, we've got ⁓ just so many people. I mean, it just I I hate to sound like a a business card here, but I mean we got we've got Moto Liberty, we got LMK designs, we got Ashcraft Motorsports, ⁓ Circle Track Connections. It's a new app they got out now. ⁓ go check out Circle Track Connections. If you look on my Facebook page, they have a ⁓ a new app out now. ⁓ it's kind of kind of bringing ⁓ the dirt track community together as far as meeting people. ⁓ they're they're gonna have like setup sheets and all all kinds of just cool little things with that. ⁓ we've got ⁓ Holly Equipment Rentals. ⁓ we got Merle Sherb with factor fencing, Taco Casa, Provision Security Cameras, ⁓ Tony Bat with A and B Enterprises ⁓ for diesel repair, diesel truck repair and stuff. He was a real big contributor to this event. ⁓ Black Bear Plum Black Bear ⁓ Black Bear Plumbing. ⁓ we got the Shakers Paint and Fabrication. That's ⁓ who did the Mike Melton Award. Jim Gardner: Turbo. There you go. Jason Tyer: ⁓ All American Turf Solutions. We got Justin Bates, of course, and then ⁓ HR Motorsports. ⁓ Scott Height and Gerald Ray threw that in. So I mean, like I said, it's I just started kind of pushing the race a little bit through my social media. And man, the racing community really did come together and they pulled out all the stops and the generosity's just been overwhelming. And and it truly is those people that that made it happen. At the end of the day, I didn't do nothing but just answer a phone call and just give people the common the common area to go to to make it happen. ⁓ and it seems like every time I every time I make a flyer, it seems like somebody else will make a donation and I gotta go in and readjust the pay. But, you know, what started out is a I think the original post, I think we were going to start out with like 75 to win, 400 to start, and now we're up to a thousand to win, a hundred to start, and it pays pretty darn good all the way down ⁓ through the field. So And and like I said, you ain't even you don't even have to win it to you know, 'cause we got all the in addition to purse as well. So, ⁓ you know, we we've got roughly thirty ⁓ what do we got? Forty ⁓ no w no, we got we got almost two grand in a in additional. With a cost of bucks, we got we got nine hundred fifty dollars cash and a thousand dollars in cost of bucks that are in addition to the purse. So, you know, anybody that wants to look on Boyd's page ⁓ or look on my Facebook page, they're more than Jim Gardner: Good money. Corby Scherb: That's cool, man. Jason Tyer: ⁓ welcome to come join and support the event. And, you know, every bit of money I raised, it it went right back to the drivers. none of this has benefited me in any way. I'm just doing this to to try to get the sport to grow again. And fortunately, man, when it falls down around me, it seems like I always find some way to to somehow make it come back. You know, it's like it seems like for the last several years it's just been up and down and Corby Scherb: This is why Tiff still doesn't like you racing. This is why Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Sure. Jason Tyer: When it seems to to catch a little traction, it seems like we hit it we get a hiccup. But ⁓ you know, I I think the Boyd thing, it with the amount of support that's come from the people, ⁓ I'm hoping that ⁓ that it takes off. And and if we have a good car count, ⁓ we're welcome back. ⁓ and if the second race goes well, ⁓ we're talking about we may have a a permanent home for next season for the Micros again for probably, you know, twice a month type deal. And and hopefully Corby Scherb: Awesome. Jason Tyer: Hopefully that'll sh will grow because, you know, the thing about it is you got Cam Cartway right down the road and you know, you got a lot of kids coming out of the go karts that I feel a micro would be a great way to to step up, you know, before you get into a full sprint car or whatever, you know, get used to running some of the bigger tracks, have a little more horsepower and whatnot. ⁓ and then having a place to to welcome ⁓ that's close to where they're already racing, I think it could actually be a really good deal. Corby Scherb: That's awesome. Jim Gardner: That's that's awesome. And the ⁓ the big power eye show ⁓ that you ran along with the midgets in March, ⁓ you know, we we talked about it on here after that show. That's kind of in a really good spot ⁓ in the calendar to have a really big marquee event down here in town. And so if if if there can be regular racing to build the the series, you could you could have a big marquee national event down here. It's it's it's got some potential. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. It is a really good yeah, it really is. Yeah, so Right, right. Right. You know, ⁓ the I think the Little Texas track is a really cool track. I think it's a cool venue and ⁓ you know, I know they've got some some Power Eye nationals there. I think we got another one here at the end of the season. ⁓ you know, it's we've got a couple of races here and there. I I believe Big O's running on the Bull Ring. ⁓ we went and ran that a couple of weeks ago and we're fortunate enough to win it. And you know, the bull ring is their go kart track and yeah, we so Corby Scherb: What it from the tail too? Yeah. Jason Tyer: Yeah, because my car caught on fire after hot laps. So so ⁓ the bull ring had a couple of bull ring races ⁓ scheduled for the micros and we had some really bad weather that kind of kept us from some of ⁓ but they were able to get one of them in and my schedule is gonna allow me to run it. I think I missed one of ⁓ but either way I showed up and ⁓ you know, it's the go-part track, and I was really surprised at how well the place raced. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jason Tyer: It was actually a good time. ⁓ I think we had fifteen cars show up. ⁓ my car caught on fire. The the rectifier caught on fire. And I was just gonna be done. I was like, I'm done for the night, no big deal. I'll I'll focus on my kids. You know, Trent was racing at night, and so I was like, I'll just focus on him. And I knew Danny, ⁓ Danny Debrick was coming to the races and he hadn't made it there yet. So I called him up. I was like, Hey dude, are you still coming to the races tonight? And he Yeah. I said, Dude, stop by my house. I need a rectifier. So he stops by the house and picks up a rectifier. And ⁓ I missed I missed my qualifying. ⁓ they did single car qualifying that night. I missed my heat race. ⁓ but you know, luckily there's only 15 cars, so everybody made the feature. I got my car put together ⁓ just in time ⁓ to tag the back for the feature. And we started fifteenth and I think we took the lead at around, ⁓ gosh, lap eighteen or nineteen or something like that, and we led the rest of them and it was ⁓ Jim Gardner: Nice. Jason Tyer: I wanna say it was a 50 lap race too, if I remember right. I want to say it was a 50 lapper. but but it was a really good time. I really like the track, and I think they're gonna have us back ⁓ sometime in November, I believe. September, October, I don't know. I'll when I find the for sure date, I'll I'll share it to my page. But ⁓ I think some of the guys down south with Pipeline MD are are sponsoring that event. And so we should have one of those races as well. So as of right now that I'm sure of in the in the North Texas area, we got Boyd. Jim Gardner: Oof. Jason Tyer: ⁓ willing to give us a shot this Friday. If it goes good, I think we're gonna possibly get a shot on July third. That's not a for sure yet, but if it does become a for sure deal, I will definitely start pushing that. ⁓ and then we got a bull ring race and we got Little Texas again at Texas Motor Speedway. Jim Gardner: That's good. Corby Scherb: I'm just gonna go ahead and out all the car guys. Jason Tyre, you grew up in the same world that I did, and a hundred and fifty percent payback meant that the top half of the field got paid for everyone who entered that race. So if you showed up and there was eighteen riders and twelve of y'all made the main event, only the top six got paid. Whenever you look at the car world, so many people just look at start money. Jason Tyer: Yep. Yep. Yep. They always look at the start money. And I'd be honest with you, ⁓ the person that's kind of changed my way of looking at it is Joe Duval. I mean, Joe Duval's always posting. He goes, It doesn't matter what it pays to start. I always look at what it pays to win, 'cause that's all that matters. Cause I ain't going to start. I'm going for the win. And ⁓ you know, it's ⁓ it's one of those things, man. ⁓ yeah, the motorcycle racing, you you definitely weren't gonna get rich. ⁓ Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: No. Jason Tyer: You know, and but yeah, you you had to fight for every inch. And it seems like the the car world, it's ⁓ you know, everybody in the main events getting paid. you know, now at the national level obviously we made good money, but but at the outlaw races, like you said, 150% payback. You had to be up on it 'cause, you know, th there's a mini a night, you know, president was like, Hey man, you you gotta get up on the on the on the tank 'cause we don't make no money. We literally do not have enough gas money to make it home. Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah. It's ⁓ it's different, you know, and I I mean I'm gonna go ahead and say it. You don't have to give away it, but ⁓ d does does the same line work in cars as it did on motorcycles at Boyd, coming off turn four? Jason Tyer: ⁓ the famous Boyd line. You you always had to bet your ass that with five to go, if I wasn't leading it, I was gonna come out with that line and it worked every year. And sure enough I'd I'd win the pro race. Corby Scherb: They it was it was the wildest thing in the world 'cause everyone at Boyd, we'd go there and we'd all run around the top, man. They had Haybells just just praying for us not to to jump into a helicopter and then all of a sudden I I remember ⁓ it was one night, ⁓ it was like two thousand and eight, maybe, two thousand seven, and ⁓ I was up right behind Willie McCoy and I like, Dude, like I got him tonight. Like this is gonna be the first time I'm ever gonna beat Willie, beat Jason and then all of a sudden I just saw Some white and yellow leathers to the bottom and I'm like, There's no way. There's no way. Two laps later he beat me to the wall and I'm like, unbelievable. Jason Tyer: Yeah. So every time, like Corby said, we were running around the top of three and four every time at Boyd. And I just I I wasn't that fast going into three on the high side at Boyd. I never was. But I would always go with the consensus. Everybody's running up high. It's got to be the fast line. That's where I'm going. And then one year I just decided to hell with it. And about middle of the back straightaway, I just dove to the bottom. Clipped the infield tire and drove straight to the eight apex of three and four, and literally would cut like a hundred and fifty foot off this racetrack. And it didn't make a shit who was rolling around the top. I was cutting you off, and we're coming right through the middle of it. And I would get it turned at the apex and go. And it was usually good for one rider per lap. So usually I was running fourth, fifth, something like that. And with about five to go. Corby Scherb: I know. It was the craziest thing. I was like, There's no way it's gonna work this year. I'm just gonna go faster. Jason Tyer: The last time I did it, I was like, there's no way it's gonna work because for some reason it was sloppy and muddy down there. I don't know if it was from the rain or the water truck or what, but like all day it was like sketchy down there and and I would never practice it. I would never attempt it, I would never show it to nobody. Five laps to go. Here it goes. Cause if I'm not leading it, I'm gonna throw that line and it worked every year. Corby Scherb: ⁓ man. I bet I I don't know. I I would be I'd be blown away. I'd walk back to my house if it worked in a micro. Jason Tyer: I don't know if a micro will do it. Jim Gardner: As a Jason Tyer: Well, if I'm not leading it, we're gonna try it. Jim Gardner: Was it in Is it down in turn one and two or tur turns three and four? Okay. Well they re Corby Scherb: No, three and four. Yep. Jason Tyer: Three and four. Like I said, middle about the middle of the back straightaway, I would just turn to the bottom. And literally, if you if you drew a straight edge from the middle of the back straightaway straight to the apex of three and four, that was my line. There was no arch. There was no it was just straight to it. And it would literally cut 150 foot off the racetrack. And you know, by that point, people were rolling pretty hot and heavy through the middle of three and four that were coming in on the high side. And here I am, my dumbass roll right up to the top center and park it. Everybody's wowing up and I'd gas it and come off the corner and it worked. Yeah, it was a race car slide job, but on a motorcycle. Corby Scherb: It it was a slide job before we knew what a slide job was. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: All right. That's awesome. Slim Pushins: Jim, I've got midget I got midget week on and there's how come these sprint cars don't what's wrong with them? They don't have any they don't have any wings. What's what's going on? It's just like the handy is this like the handicap sprint car race? Jim Gardner: They don't ha they don't have the crutches on top? That's that's big boy racing, man. That's what I loved growing up doing, man. It's it's the opposite of that. It's the big brass balls version of it. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: ⁓ all right, speaking of sprint car racing, what do we have going on this weekend? RPM? Jim Gardner: We got a big weekend. Yeah, there's three races. ⁓ everybody's gotta get their cars out. Yeah. You got RPM running. ⁓ the weather knock on wood doesn't look horrible ⁓ for the first time all season for them. So hopefully Kevin and the crew ⁓ had get a good car count. I'm headed out there. ⁓ if Bates will ever get back to me on whether or not he's racing or whether I'm taking my car, ⁓ that would be great. ⁓ looking forward to Slim Pushins: Options. Jim Gardner: Kevin's mini corndogs, which he keeps texting me about at five A.M. ⁓ down Slim Pushins: He sent us pictures today. Was it today or yesterday? They're already working the track. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it was ⁓ it was today, I think. And ⁓ so ⁓ hoping for a good show out there. There's a race out west at Abilene, that's paying really good money ⁓ trying to draw out the west side cars. ⁓ hopefully they get a a good cr ⁓ crew to go out there. And ⁓ they're running down south in Houston too, so ⁓ it's gonna be spread a little thin this weekend. Yeah. Yeah, 105. Slim Pushins: Like w like one hundred five when you say Houston, the Corby Sher Memorial Speedway. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: He's not dead. He's right there. It's not a memorial race. But ⁓ yeah, so ⁓ three three shots for everybody to go out and it's gonna be hot and I j I just checked the weather. ⁓ it it should be pretty clear Saturday. Looks like we might get some weather roll in Sunday. But ⁓ and I think Jason, you might be dodging weather, knock on wood too, so ⁓ Jason Tyer: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Abilene's Jason Tyer: Yeah, I think so. I think there is a chance, but hopefully, ⁓ hopefully we can get it in. ⁓ and I and I haven't really said much about it, but ⁓ for those micro people that are watching, if we are unfortunate enough that we do not get this race in, I have one hundred percent all intentions of taking every bit of this money and just moving it right on to the next event. Which if we are given the green light will be July third or fourth, whatever that Friday is, ⁓ at third. So it'd be July third at Boyd. Like I said, that's, you know, weather pending and and whatever. But like I said, all this money was given to us from the racers and from the c racing community and so forth. And and I intend on on keeping it that way. So ⁓ if it does rain out, unfortunately, ⁓ we are gonna I will just get with the promoter and we'll push all this back. Jim Gardner: Third. Jason Tyer: And it will go to the next event. Jim Gardner: All right, good deal. Slim Pushins: Straight to Winstar. Jason Tyer: And no, I suck at gambling. Suck at gambling. Jim Gardner: Ha ha There's a there's a reason they keep the responsible people in charge, like Jason, and not you, Kerbo. That's why nobody's trusting you with the extra purse money. Jason Tyer: Right. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Well that's why we have you here, Jim. To keep Jason Tyer: Now I can't promise that there won't be a couple of taco Casa Bucks go disappearing or something. I mean, I'm responsible, but I'm also fat, so that that might might have a couple of those disappear. Jim Gardner: Missing. Gotta Yeah. Gotta eat. Corby Scherb: Mm. Jim Gardner: Gotta eat. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Let's let's talk about this too, you know, just a touch base on something else. Like ⁓ you know Jason, how'd you get into painting? I mean th I think that there's still a lot of car people that don't know. ⁓ has anyone ever went and looked at all y'all's helmets? Just just y'all's helmets. You and your ⁓ Tory and Trenton's helmets. Jason Tyer: Don't know. ⁓ you know, I've got a I've got a pretty good helmet collection here at the house. I've got ⁓ all of them up there along the wall and on top of the toolbox. So so those that don't really know me, I am a second generation automotive collision instructor ⁓ at a high school. And my dad was an auto collision instructor, and my dad always did custom paint. And my dad was kind of I guess you could say he was exactly what I am, but to the motorcycle scene. Slim Pushins: That's pretty cool. Jason Tyer: back in the in in the early eighties and he was a painter and so he painted all the custom stuff for the guys. Well it's always just been kind of a side hustle. And from a very young age, I'd say probably s I don't know, sixth grade or so, I started painting, ⁓ just helping my dad out in the shop. And I was always painting my own bikes, painting my own helmets. And ⁓ then it just kind of became a way for extra side money because when I was racing on the Grand National Circuit, obviously I couldn't hold down a full-time job because I'm always traveling. So I would paint helmets just to make gas money and so forth. And and it's so funny because I still to this day I have so many people wanting to paint, want me to paint helmets or motorcycles. And I I've done it for so long, I absolutely hate it. I hate it. And it it's just like my my schedule's so busy. It's like, hey, let's go knock 60 hours off my life and and paint a helmet for somebody that wants to pay $400, you know? And it's like it it don't work that way anymore. And Jim Gardner: Yeah, right. Jason Tyer: Really the only helmets I paint anymore are my kids. I hate painting helmets so much. I've only done let's see, one, two. I've only done two helmets for myself personally since two thousand and two. And the helmet from two thousand and two was the one that was exploded in four pieces from Merle sh throwing a Harley at my face. Or no, it was Mick Kirkness threw his Suzuki at my face because him yeah, Kirkness. Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Corby Scherb: They make her yeah, Merle took him out, yeah. Yeah. Jason Tyer: Merle took out Kirkness and Kirkness's bike hit me in the face. And it's so funny 'cause it was Big Travis's bike and all Travis says, you know, here I am unconscious, broken collarbones and all kind of broke up. And all Travis could say is my face ruined the gas tank on his Suzuki. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Slim Pushins: Okay. Jason Tyer: But yeah, I I I paint I paint my kids helmets and and you know if somebody pops up with a new helmet that that I painted, I I may slip one, maybe two in a year for somebody. And usually it's because I found something stupid that I don't need but I want it and I need quick cash and I'll just start hey, I'll paint a helmet. Who needs one? And I'll because it's something stupid I found on marketplace that I want. Jim Gardner: It's awesome. Slim Pushins: What's the turnaround on a helmet? How long does it take you? Corby Scherb: ⁓ it about about six to eight months. Jason Tyer: My my famous line is I'll have it to you before you need it. Cor Corby needed it and I got it to him. Corby Scherb: So, sadly, I I think I think that ⁓ I I'm the only one out of my brothers, like I said, we've known you my whole life, and I think I'm the only one ⁓ you got a helmet painted for and ⁓ I got a new awry. I got a new got a new arry and I dropped off with Jason. I think that I I don't know, I got it at the beginning of the year like February or something like that, and I dropped off with Jason and ⁓ Jason's like, ⁓ yeah, no big deal, man, I'll get it to you. First Springfield came around. Slim Pushins: Surprise, surprise. Corby got something everybody else didn't. Corby Scherb: helmet. And the same like I mean I'm not gonna, you know, bug you about it. You'll you'll get it to me whenever we can and you know, second Springfield was coming around and I'm like, Man, I really would like that new helmet. It would be sure nice to have one and I so I t I I called Jason and ⁓ he was like, yeah Jason Tyer: The DOT stickers already expired on it. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Corby Scherb: Called Jason, he was like, Dude, don't worry man, I'll have it to you before you leave for Springfield and I'm like awesome man. So like and I didn't bug him again about it. And ⁓ we we left. We'd started driving and ⁓ he calls me and he was like dude I'm headed right now to meet Jeremy Hamilton and his dad and I'm gonna give him your helmet and I'm like, No way man, you got it done and he was like, Yeah and he was like, It's beautiful and I was like awesome and I had sent him like a couple designs, like I wanted my name on it, I wanted my number on it, and then there was I I wanted ⁓ just ⁓ just a word on the back. It was it it said faith. And I didn't think much of it. And so they they brought it to Springfield. And I wore it one time ever on a dirt track. It's actually I still have it. It's it's it still has zero dings or scratches or anything with it. ⁓ did beautiful, did my name, got my number in right there. And so yeah. And so he put he put faith on the back of it. ⁓ I still stand by faith to this day and ⁓ Slim Pushins: Let's see it. Jim Gardner: Who's Corey? Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Corby Scherb: I guess ⁓ no one knew this, but ⁓ that was an ex girlfriend's tattoo. Jason says he didn't even know that. Jason Tyer: I did not know that. I just remember seeing it. Now also what people won't know that Corby's not gonna tell you, he's also has that as a lower tramp stamp as well. So he he has that on he has that same same logo on his lower back. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: ⁓ one hundred percent. Jim Gardner: Ha ha Slim Pushins: He does. Corby Scherb: So yeah, I got one helmet from Jason and ⁓ I wore it that one time and ⁓ put it on the shelf. It's too pretty to to tear up and so it just sits there now. Slim Pushins: That's the single reason Jason Tyer: But yeah, like as far as like turnaround time goes, it's just you know, it takes me to do a helmet the way I like to do them, it takes me roughly fifty-five, sixty hours to do a helmet. Now, there's a lot of people that can paint ⁓ faster than that. There's a lot of people that take longer than that. That's just what it takes me. I'm not the best in the world, but I feel that my helmets look pretty good. And it it's just one of those things, it's my lifestyle is it's just tough to do it anymore 'cause, you know, actually I gotta come out there towards Decatur. Slim Pushins: That's Jason Tyer: ⁓ to my old boss, ⁓ Jeff Long and work at his shop a little bit and ⁓ it's just it's kind of a pain in the butt to do it and you know Corby Scherb: Because you're ridiculous, Jason. Just go ahead and admit that. Because you're ridiculous. Jason Tyer: I don't know. I mean, people love ⁓ There's there's a handful of car guys in the Metroplex that that have one of my helmets. you know, but I I really just focus on my my kiddos now. you know, it it was so funny. I I caught so much shit from friends because there's a couple of races where Tori had to drive with a solid color white helmet. ⁓ there was somewhere I I got t I get text messages. I want to race in ⁓ Corby Scherb: For sure. Jason Tyer: I wanna say it's Grayson County. I think I won one night and I had a flat black helmet on, just solid flat black. And I got so much shit for wearing a flat black helmet. They're like, What is this all about? I finally just said, Screw it and painted my own helmet. Jim Gardner: Mm. Slim Pushins: Speaking of Jeff Long and the Sherbs, I think Corby ended his sprint car career. Jason Tyer: Sherb good about ending careers. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jimmy I started ⁓ Dead Last of a Heat Race at Boyd of all places too. ⁓ and Jimmy told me to ⁓ g give him give he's he said give him a gap, man and so we ⁓ we gave him a big gap going to turn four and I took off early and ⁓ Jeff's car didn't take off and I mowed him over. Slim Pushins: He was determined not to finish there at the end of the race, so he took out whoever whoever he needed to Jason Tyer: Okay. ⁓ So So Jeff Jeff was actually the Jeff was actually the very first job, like real job that I ever had when I was sixteen years old. My dad ran Yeah, so Jeff and my dad ran into each other ⁓ at some bar or something, I don't know. And my dad always knew who Jeff was. I was too young to really know who Jeff was, because you know that's Jim Gardner: Don't be the don't be the second one on the gas. You're gonna hear about it back in the pit. Corby Scherb: That's cool, I didn't know that. Jason Tyer: Back before the days of social media and all that. And ⁓ heck, I don't even think we had cell phones yet. I think we're still on beepers. But ⁓ my dad knew Jeff and knew that he was ⁓ you know, a very good custom painter. And ⁓ so he went and approached Jeff and he's like, Hey, ⁓ he goes, I got a son. He's he's getting his driver's license and ⁓ he he would he needs a job. He goes, Would you be interested in letting him come work for you? And Jeff's like, Well, I don't know, and this and that. So I went over there and I met Jeff and I told Jeff I said, here's the deal. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Jason Tyer: I said, I'll work for you for one week for free. And if at the end of the week you don't feel I'm worthy of keeping around the shop, you ain't gotta hire me. And you ain't gotta pay me. You got a week free labor. And so I I went over there and I worked for him. And it ended up being a really good deal. ⁓ me and Jeff have remained good friends ever since, and still to this day I work with Jeff on a regular i every helmet I paint to this day, ⁓ still is heavily influenced by Jeff. just a real solid dude and you know, like I said that was when I was sixteen years old, the very first job ever had, and you know, I followed him on to American Iron Horse painting in the in their chopper shop, ⁓ painting custom choppers and stuff and just yeah, Jeff's a good dude, man. He ⁓ but yeah, he was the very first employer I ever had. Jim Gardner: He is. Awesome. Who did Slim Pushins: I made Corby that same deal and he's been putting me off one more week for ten years. Give me one more week. Jason Tyer: Ha ha ha. Jim Gardner: Who ⁓ did you paint Jeb's brain helmet or did Jeff? Okay. All right. That's a good look. Jason Tyer: No, Jeff painted that one. Yeah. Slim Pushins: If anybody hasn't seen that thing, if you ever find yourself around the old O one J, i that helmet's really cool. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's it's cool. It's cooler than mine. Jason Tyer: Well we know Jeb don't really have a brain, so we gotta paint one on the helmet to you know, it's an optical illusion. Jim Gardner: That's right. Yeah. That's it's ⁓ I grew up ⁓ running go karts in Kentucky and and one of the older guys had ⁓ a helmet painted custom by Chad Barr up in Ohio who I don't know if you run in helmet painting circles. And I ended up racing sprint cars with Chad's son. ⁓ yeah, right, probably. They're they had their own, you know, help yeah, the help help support, you know. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Slim Pushins: They're on a group text, Jim. It's ⁓ the helmet the the helmet painters group text. Jason Tyer: Yeah, we gotta close Yeah. Jim Gardner: Helmet Panters Anonymous and I beat his I so I ended up racing sprit cars with his son Ryan. He still runs up in Ohio and I was beating him up on Payton Helmet. He goes, No, absolutely not. Nope. Not doing it. No more helmets, no nothing. And ⁓ it's the exact same story you had, Jason, where he's like, No, it's 80 hours and all racers wanted stuff something for free. He's like, I'm not doing it. Yeah, exactly. He's like, I'm out. I don't want to do it. I was like, okay, no problem. So now I just Jason Tyer: Yeah. Yep, they always want something for nothing and they need it yesterday. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. Jim Gardner: ⁓ got a can of orange spray paint and a twenty five dollar NFL Bengals tick ⁓ helmet sticker kit off mine. And Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: eBay eBay sticker package. Jason Tyer: Yeah, I ⁓ don't don't don't worry. I was I was embarrassed to look at it when I saw you crawling that midget at TMS earlier this year. I was like, good lord. Slim Pushins: He's easy to spot though on the track. Corby Scherb: Are the car guys are the car guys better than the motorcycle guys about needing something for free, or no? Jason Tyer: I it's you know how it is, man. Everybody wants a deal and everybody wants a hookup and you know it is what it is. There's there's a select few that, you know, it's they don't care what it costs, they don't care how long it takes, they want it by you or or whoever that that painter may be. my dad always said, Bubba hell, just keep it long enough that by the time they get it back, they were so pissed off at you, they don't care what it looks like. They're just happy to have the shit back. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha. Slim Pushins: Huh. Corby Scherb: Man. Jim Gardner: See if I can't. Slim Pushins: Jim, do we have ⁓ do you have an updated factor fencing power ranking? Three ⁓ five Slim Pushins Super Bowl rankings? Corby Scherb: I didn't know I didn't know if you were going down the line to talk about Jason's truck when he was sixteen. I remember him pulling the devil's ball thinking, Jeez, there's no way. I'm gonna be that guy when I grow up Jason Tyer: ⁓ God, that C ten. ⁓ Jim Gardner: let me let me pull up the power rankings. I don't have a graphic. ⁓ but Slim Pushins: John Carney, John Carney speaking of Takukasi, John Carney's about to start the C feature on row seven at Eagle. Jim Gardner: Oof. That man, people don't understand how tough the four ten deal is. They really don't. ⁓ Because Carney gets it on and then all of a sudden you're you're buried in a sea. Corby Scherb: Eagle Nebraska, man. Talk talking about your old truck, you know, I saw you ⁓ Trenton was posting pictures of his truck that he put that he he got lowered and I was thinking, Man, like it'll never be Jason's truck. I remember I'll never forget we were at Devil's Bowl. I think it was the day that your dad taped up my leathers for me. I remember seeing you pull in with that truck. I'm like, no way. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jason Tyer: Yep. Yep. Yeah. That truck was ⁓ that thing was w well known around around South Irving. I couldn't get away with shit. That was always my problem. I couldn't get away with shit because every time I did something, somebody saw that truck and would snitch. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: ⁓ Jason Tyer: Hey man, I saw Jason at the street races or you know, something stupid. Jim Gardner: ⁓ well so the Slim Pushins: He should have been more like Corby, just inconspicuous nineteen seventy eight L T D Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Jim Gardner: What a I'm just curious, what do you have against my helmet there, Jason? Jason Tyer: I mean nothing. I mean I think Slim Pushins: There it is. Jim Gardner: What's that? That's that's gloss orange. Corby Scherb: Everything. Everything. Jason Tyer: I think Ray Charles is an amazing painter. Slim Pushins: ⁓ Well that's gonna be a high that's gonna be a highlight tomorrow. Corby Scherb: Perez would be so disappointed. Jim Gardner: I gotta r I I gotta rep I gotta represent my hometown. Jason Tyer: The the president would look at that helmet. If you tried to show that to my dad and tell him and convince him that it was good looking, my dad would look you dead in the eye and go, Boy, the only taste you got is in your mouth. Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Wait, I didn't I didn't say it was good looking. It's just I gotta represent home somehow. And so ⁓ that's the most the the best way to do it. All right. Power rankings ⁓ obviously didn't change. Everything got rained out last week. Stubblefield, DJ Estes, Landon Thompson, John Ricketts, Kyle Jones are your top five. Braxton Weager, Lance Christie, Kevin Rutherford, Thomas Johnson, and Claude Estes are the top ten. Jason Tyer: Ha ha Jim Gardner: We talked, Kerbo and I talked the other day. We'll probably post the top twenty or twenty-five, ⁓ at some point, maybe around the fourth of July, about halfway through the season. ⁓ because we're tracking a hundred and six guys, which is about double what I expected to track on that thing. And Slim Pushins: Well, when you say we talked, when you say we talked, that was that was after you after you had started responding to me and talking to me again after ⁓ after the power rankings debate of twenty twenty six. Jason Tyer: Come here. Jim Gardner: Well, you ask the very Slim Pushins: What is that, a bear? Jason Tyer: These these are wire strippers. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. I about to I was about to ask you, how's the trailers doing these days? Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha Jason Tyer: ⁓ my God, I got a new puppy. Like I needed that. And ⁓ yeah, so these if anybody that's known me long enough on my social media, they know my dogs were notorious at one point for eating the trailer wires off of my trailers every week. So part of my normal routine maintenance for racing every week involved rewiring my trailers. Jim Gardner: That's awesome. I'm I'm so Slim Pushins: Yes, of course, Jim and I got into about the power rankings. Jim Gardner: Well you you assume he's like, Well, it's too complicated. The mass too I can't explain to anybody how to do it. And I was like, Well, then come up with a basic plan. And he's like, Well, yeah, you just do the average points. And I'm No, that's that doesn't work. Here's why. And then he's like, Well, what do you do this? I was like, That doesn't work. Here's why. And I thought of ten more contingencies than you could have come up with in that conversation. Slim Pushins: And nobody in the group text had my back. Corby just Corby just let us duke it out, and nobody said shit. And Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Corby Scherb: I mean we're we talked about Moto Liberty, I could just bring up Ricky Graham and you know what ⁓ his perfect season, what was that, nineteen ninety three, I think? Yeah. Jason Tyer: Ninety ninety three. Jim Gardner: He would he would he would have probably led the power rankings 'cause that's how the math works. If you run well, you'll be up higher. It's not that hard. Jason Tyer: But in Kerbo's defense, math was never really his strong suit, so Slim Pushins: It's still not my strong suit. And then, you know, Jim's so smart. I have to we have to we have to tell Jim all the time, you're you're you don't understand how much smarter you are than the rest of us. So when you think that you're dumbing something down, we need you to go a little bit further. Jim Gardner: Well of course Corby Scherb: Yes. Jim Gardner: So if you admittedly it's not your strong if it's not your strong suit Jason Tyer: Hey, don't don't feel bad, Kerwell. Because at the end of the day, I think so I've been in micro since 2008, and I still have not a single slightest clue on how to work passing points. I just go up. If you ever want to if you ever want to screw me over at an event and burn me, do it through passing points because I will have no idea you did it. Because I just walk up to the board and I'm like, okay, passing points. I I don't know. It says I start 12th. Let's go. That's where we start. I have no idea how passing points. Jim Gardner: So passing points, passing points, i ⁓ again, people who don't understand it always think they're getting screwed. There's like there's nobody's like, ⁓ I caught a good break. Every racer I've ever met thinks they suck at drawing pills, right? They're like, ⁓ man, I'm the worst pill draw guy around. And you're like, No, you're probably not, you're probably exactly average. ⁓ the passing point system's just screwing me. No, it's not. You just didn't run as good as you thought you did. Like, it's not it's not Jason Tyer: No, I feel I'm a horrible drawer and you screwed me. Jim Gardner: overly complex. Exactly. It can't it can't be it you know, it can't be that, you know, you weren't as fast as you thought you were, you know, in the grand scheme of things. Jason Tyer: I drew a number one and I started on the pole of my heat and I went and finished fourth. I finished in the top four. That should put me up front in in the in the in the future. Jim Gardner: Yeah, exactly. I got news for you. That's not actually a very good run. That's Corby Scherb: One hundred percent. Slim Pushins: Mm. Lindsey Lindsey Warhurst called me today and was like, Hey, can I I need to ask you a racing question? And I was like, Okay. Jim Gardner: Is ⁓ is that why she called me after? 'Cause you couldn't answer it? Slim Pushins: Well she's like sh she goes we're trying to figure out she goes we're trying to figure out the point system for this big race that we've got coming up and I was like Did did you mean to call ⁓ did you mean to call me? I was like, Why did you not call Jim? And she's like, I didn't he didn't answer and I was like so so this was this is I was your plan B? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah, I I was slammed at work today. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Yeah. I was slam I was slammed today. I'll call her. Lindsay, if you're watching, I'll call you first thing in the morning. I'm sorry I didn't get back to you. But ⁓ Corby Scherb: Worst mistake. Slim Pushins: No, she's not watching because our our our tens of listeners are delicate. When you screw ⁓ over once, they're out. So now we have nine listeners. Jim Gardner: That's awesome. I'm ⁓ I speaking of passing points, I I'm excited for the shootout this year because I think it's gonna be the first year where you can draw a a low pill, start on the pole in stock non wing, win that race, and not make a qualifier. It's gonna happen this year. It's never happened. Jason Tyer: It's Think so. Corby Scherb: What do think that Jim Gardner: It's never happened. It missed by like five cars this year. It will happen this year coming up and and I wonder what they're gonna do about it 'cause that that's bad news. Corby Scherb: Well, dude, you you can Jason Tyer: It it's it's crazy how fast you have to be there. I think two years ago there was four hundred and thirty something cars. I think there ended up being like just over four hundred that actually drew in. You know, obviously a couple of pre registers didn't show. ⁓ but I drew ⁓ a really high number. I started almost dead last in my in my heat race. ⁓ I passed three cars right off the bat. ⁓ I think three other cars took themselves out. So I I gained six spots in my heat race. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Right. Jason Tyer: And still had to battle my way through and I didn't go backwards at any point throughout the night. And you know, we went forward every time we hit the track, the first one being the most important. We went six up. And I still think I started I think I started like sixteenth or something in the feature. It's like you make a single mistake at that place, man. You're it it's tough. Jim Gardner: Yeah. It's it's you know, passing points, the reason they use it at the shootout net chili bowl is it's the only way to at least make it semi fair, but it still has big holes in it and the just the car count that what they have to do is they're gonna have to add ⁓ more qualifiers and then they're gonna have to ⁓ have to chop them down because you can't have people draw in on on you know the day after Christmas, draw a one. Jason Tyer: Right. Jim Gardner: and risk them winning their heat race and then being put in a D main or or whatever or C main. Jason Tyer: What about the What about that many cars, the opportunity that you're gonna be in the same heat with somebody? My kids ran my kids ran to shootout for the very first time in restrictor class and they wind up in the same freaking heat together. I'm like, you moron stay away from each other because they cannot stand to lose to each other. I'm sure the Sherb family was the same way. They hate losing to they hate losing to each other. I'm like, look, guys, I gotta pay for this shit when y'all bring it back on a hook. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Corby Scherb: One hundred percent. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jason Tyer: Do not crash out running seventh in a heat when it pays nothing. And then the very next year, Tori moves up to A-class and we're in the same heat. I'm like, how does this work? The first time I ever raced heads up with my daughter, she started right in front of me at the shootout. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Yeah, that's right. Slim Pushins: We call that the Sherb effect because they were inevitably all in the same heat. Jason Tyer: Yeah. Well hell yeah, when you got five of ⁓ what do you expect? When there's ten riders and there's five of ⁓ are sherbs, good lord, they're always gonna be that way. Yeah. Jim Gardner: They ⁓ nope. Yeah. And nope. And nobody ran the Sherb harder than the Sherbs. You know. But ⁓ Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: We were just dumb enough to to keep doing it e including in the cars. ⁓ it it is Jason, it's Jason's fault. Well blame Jason for it all. Jason Tyer: It's my fault. You're welcome. Jim Gardner: You should. You should have just said no to ⁓ And they would have been off yeah. They they'd have been off ⁓ making bogey somewhere. But ⁓ Jason Tyer: If any if anything, I could be used as a bad example. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. No, we just followed Jason. He ⁓ I said ⁓ I my my first motorcycle race was at Boyd. ⁓ I remember apparently I stopped on the back tradeway, asked my dad how I was doing, he was like, The race isn't over. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: Am I doing good? Jason Tyer: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Then the ⁓ for sure. And then my first time ever getting in car was was Jason's car. Jim Gardner: That's that's pretty on brand. Slim Pushins: Yeah it is. Jim Gardner: Yeah, that's awesome. Which ⁓ we'll get this wrapped up. Jason, good luck this weekend with the the the event and the micro stuff. ⁓ we'll be paying attention. We ⁓ we do have a feature winner sticker to get you ⁓ to give ⁓ 'cause we're trying to bring that back. ⁓ so I got Jason Tyer: I greatly appreciate it and ⁓ hopefully Найс. I'm all for it. I've always been a big fan of the of the tail tanks littered with feature win stickers and and cool trophies. ⁓ I mean, I don't know if anybody's seen them, the the trophies that I did for the Pete Fraser Memorial this year at Port City. ⁓ I did some Yeah, I did some custom painted skateboards and ⁓ there's one and there's all there's only one for each race. I know there's ⁓ there's a couple people that were like, Man, I want one of those too. And I'm like, no. You have to win the feature to get one. There are no spares. I had just enough stencils made and Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Those are skateboards? Those are awesome. Jason Tyer: We painted just enough for the feature winners and that's it. And ⁓ Christy ⁓ Christy McDougal's gonna be making some custom stands ⁓ of some sorts to hold ⁓ up. So they're they're pretty cool too. I've always been a big fan of the the trophies and the feature win stickers. Jim Gardner: Cool. All right. Well we'll make sure we get we get ⁓ something to ya. We have fifty, but ⁓ I'll order more. Slim Pushins: Well we've got we've got five hundred of ⁓ so Jason Tyer: Well well if you if you got if you got feature wins I'll I'll greatly appreciate when you when you start making the B main winners 'cause that'll probably be the only time I get one. Slim Pushins: We're gonna hand him out. Jim Gardner: ⁓ I as a bit I made a ⁓ participation award one for my tail tank, so so got the it's got the Bart Simpson at least you tried cake on it, so Jason Tyer: ⁓ there we go. I I could definitely be one of those. Right. I I still think a field filler sticker would be good too. You were you're or, you know, best purse donator. You just showed up and donated to the purse. Slim Pushins: Yeah, we thought about that too. Corby Scherb: One hundred percent. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yep. Yep. But ⁓ all right, man. Well we appreciate it. Good luck this weekend. Slim Pushins: Yeah. So Corby Corby, you're gonna be in a micro this weekend, Friday night. Corby Scherb: No, God no. Please don't do that. Don't do that. Jesus. Jesus. Jason Tyer: Yep. Driving for driving for tire motor sports. You're you're probably gonna have to stuff a pillow in the fire suit 'cause I guarantee my fire suit's double the size of you, so Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: So ⁓ Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Jason Tyer: You hey, you can you can drive and represent me. You can be you there has b I don't know if anybody's ever known, there has been a Jason Tyre imposter ⁓ in a micro. ⁓ so I was going for the championship in two thousand thirteen at Mountain Creek Speedway and I was going to seam that year and I wasn't sure if I was gonna be able to make it back to the track in time ⁓ in order to Slim Pushins: RPM Corby Scherb: ⁓ No, that's Slim Pushins: Yep. Jason Tyer: race and so I needed somebody dressed like me in my car to make laps to get the points in case I didn't make it. And so Chip Graham took my truck. He took my truck and my trailer and showed up to Mountain Creek Speedway and got in my fire suit with my helmet and everything and drove my race car and hot laps and the heat race Slim Pushins: There it is. Well. Jason Tyer: And my airplane landed from Vegas and I hauled ass to the racetrack and got there just in time to tag the back of the field because I'm pretty sure he qualified like ass. But but there's I think Chip's still got a photo. Somewhere floating around there's a picture from Mountain Creek Speedway of my car with Chip Graham and all my gear driving my car. Jim Gardner: Was his head sticking out of the cage? Corby Scherb: That's awesome. Jason Tyer: Yes, it was. It w it was so funny because it looks nothing like me sitting in the car. You know, me, I'm short and fat and he's tall and skinny. I just wish I could have seen how he looked in my fire suit outside the car. Cause I guarantee it was baggy in the belly and it looked like he was ready for the flood. Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: I ⁓ I I hot lapped ⁓ one of Sherb's midgets. We went somewhere, some motorcycle track or something to h to shake ⁓ down. I put Corby's suit on. I look I had freckle shins. You know, it's a good thing the fuel pump line you know, the lines on the fuel pump didn't loosen up, burn my shins off when wearing that thing, but ⁓ that's awesome. Slim Pushins: Well, ⁓ a lot going on this weekend. I know we got a lot of people from ⁓ after we were out in Abilene after they threw a mic in my face that they're one of our nine listeners. ⁓ so I hear rumors I hear rumors that our ⁓ director of Pushin't the Cushion Girls is behind the wheel this weekend and the old the old teal bomber number seven. So if y'all are out there she'll be doing autographs from five thirty to six thirty. Jason Tyer: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jim Gardner: All right. That's awesome. Jason Tyer: I'm just glad I could take y'all from eleven listeners to nine tonight. Jim Gardner: It's the Lord's still it's the Lord's work. That's awesome. Jason, thank you for coming on, man. ⁓ you are you are a pillar. You're the pillar in town and ⁓ you are the man to bring ⁓ the six hundreds back. So they're cool little cars. We need ⁓ around here. Slim Pushins: Yeah. We didn't want those two anyway. They were pain in the ass. Jason Tyer: No worries, man. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Slim Pushins: We really appreciate it. Best of luck this weekend. Corby Scherb: Thanks, Jason. Jason Tyer: We'll see if it happens. We're ⁓ we got our foot in the door, we'll see where it goes from there. Jim Gardner: Sounds good. Boys, we'll see you at R PM Saturday. Jason Tyer: Awesome. Slim Pushins: Thanks, buddy. Jason Tyer: There you go. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Later.