Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Carl Kerby: Equipping Believers To ‘Know It, Live It, & Share It’
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:20Friends, family and Christ, thank you so much for tuning in and thank you for sharing,
- 0:24sharing, sharing the podcast.
- 0:26And that is how we're getting out there, under God's sovereignty, thanks to you.
- 0:30Special treat to date.
- 0:31Today we have in studio Carl Kirby, reasons for hope, the website r4h.com, that's the word
- 0:40FORR, FORH.com, and yeah, we're going to talk about some events he's in town for, some
- 0:46apologetics, a new debunked video, and maybe even talking in public schools.
- 0:52Carl, welcome back to World View Matters.
- 0:55David, you always bless me, brother, thank you for letting me be with you.
- 0:57You're most welcome.
- 0:58Thanks for taking the time.
- 0:59You just flew in today.
- 1:00Yep, yep.
- 1:01So let's just let everybody know right now, this is pre-recorded, Carl's in town, we're
- 1:08in Appleton, in the studios here, he's doing an event in Green Bay at the zoo, and this
- 1:13is two days after the election, so we don't know who won, we might not even know yet.
- 1:20We do know the Lord's in control, so whoever it is, pray for him.
- 1:24Yes, pray, pray that God saves our government, and really wakes up the church, I think waking
- 1:32up the church has to come first, Revival, repentance, if my people who are, I think it starts
- 1:40here.
- 1:41So all right, well Carl, so much going on, but let's just talk first about what you're
- 1:45in town for, really unique opportunity, a church brought you in in Green Bay Baptist
- 1:50church, and you're speaking at the zoo, and then you're going to be speaking at the
- 1:55church, so what's this, what are you going to be doing?
- 1:57Well, I'm killing three birds with one stone, because they get to come and do this show
- 2:01with you, thank you for that, and then Academy of Excellence is an amazing organization
- 2:06here in Wisconsin, and they brought me up to do the zoo, so they said they have, they
- 2:13think 700 people that are signed up to go to the zoo, so I'll go out and I'll do a presentation
- 2:18at the zoo, and then we'll go inside the zoo, and with that many people I can't take
- 2:23all of them, so what I do is I'll go station myself by an animal so that as the people
- 2:28come through, they've seen me doing this speaking thing, then it's like, hey, come on over,
- 2:31let me give you some backstory and some unique fun information, we do these tours all
- 2:36over, all right?
- 2:38You know my background, I was with the Creation Museum, my job was to raise the funds,
- 2:42to build a Creation Museum, well, and I mean no disrespect here, but I'm at this stage,
- 2:46an hour's like, you know what, we don't need to build any more Creation Museums, we need
- 2:49to turn every zoo, every museum, every planetarium on this planet into a Creation,
- 2:56zoo, museum, planetarium, and you can do that when you have a biblical world view, I'm
- 3:01not afraid of the signage, this is what the world says, here's what the word of God says,
- 3:04let's go in, let's look at it, here's what they say, but here's what we actually see,
- 3:09and when you teach a generation how to think, and teach parents how to think, these places
- 3:13become Creationist zoos, and that's what we're going to do tomorrow in Green Bay.
- 3:16You know, let's talk a little bit more about that, because I think this was an eye opener
- 3:20for me to hear about the Academy of Excellence, before we got on the podcast here, we were
- 3:24talking with Freedom Project Executive Director Mike Menzel, and he was talking about this,
- 3:29how tax dollars are being used to help homeschooling families, go to the zoo, and hear about
- 3:36Creation when you're able to talk to these kids, and you don't have to censor yourself,
- 3:41tell us more about that.
- 3:43Yeah, it's crazy, they've got brick and mortar schools in Milwaukee, but then they also
- 3:47have the online school, and you spoke there too, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we, the last two
- 3:52times, it was the Milwaukee Zoo, but I guess they've got a group up in this area that said,
- 3:56hey, we want to do that up here, because we had over a thousand down at the Milwaukee Zoo,
- 4:00it was really good responses, and so yeah, they have, Randy, the head guy Randy is a genius,
- 4:08and he has figured out how to get this thing run and make it work, so that when I come in there,
- 4:13when I go to the brick and mortar, when I do the Academy of Excellence, any event that I speak at,
- 4:17there's no restrictions put on me, and I would say most of those kids are probably not even Christian,
- 4:22quite frankly, but the school system in Milwaukee is not that good, and so he, I'm trying to be
- 4:30generous, right? And so the parents are bringing their children there, and I think it's actually
- 4:35three brick and mortar, if I remember correctly now, but it's more than one, and I get to go in
- 4:41there, and those kids are amazing, we have just a blast with them, and so the Academy of Excellence
- 4:47is the same way, we'll be out there, I'll do the presentation, we'll go through the zoo, and like
- 4:52I said, man, we can turn these zoos into creation zoos by just learning about the design, we have
- 5:00a book called Fascinating Facts that we're going to have one for every continent, our first one's
- 5:06out dealing with Africa, the brand new one is just getting released, and that's dealing with North
- 5:10America, and then every other continent we're going to have one, but if you take the content inside
- 5:15of those books, as a parent, you can go through any zoo in America and do a tour from a biblical
- 5:21perspective, and not be afraid of reading the signage at all. Wow, this is exciting news to a lot of
- 5:27people. I love it, man. Yeah, I'm thankful for that, that you don't have to censor yourself,
- 5:31speaking of censoring yourself, well, you didn't censor yourself, but when was the last time you
- 5:35spoke at a public school? Oh goodness, it has to be at least 12 years ago. And what happened? I know
- 5:40you've told this story. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy, I was in, so the pastor asked me to come and he
- 5:45says, would you speak at a school? I said, sure, I thought it was a Christian school, right? That's
- 5:49typical. We pull up to the public school, and I said, this is the public school? He said, yeah,
- 5:54I said, do they know who I am? And because I was supposed to speak on racial reconciliation.
- 6:00He said, yeah, yeah, they know just don't preach. I said, pastor, there is no way to deal with racial
- 6:05reconciliation without preaching the gospel. Yeah, because that's the only answer to this. You
- 6:09want to deal with critical race theory, you want to deal with race period? There's only one race
- 6:13to human race, and that's from God's word. You remove God's word, then it's a free for all, right?
- 6:18So I said, man, I can't do that. I can't deal with racial reconciliation and not preach. So I
- 6:23changed my talk to the fossil record. And all I did is I showed the phylogenetic charts, the
- 6:29family trees, you start down here with these, and it turns into this, turn into this, turn into this.
- 6:33I use the secular charts, and I started saying, okay, here's the chart, and this depicts dinosaur
- 6:39evolution. Down here were two reptiles, and given enough time, millions of years, you get all the
- 6:43different dinosaurs. Kind of interesting. Notice there's two different colored lines. You got the
- 6:47dark lines, you got the light lines. What the dark line mean? And down here says solid fossil
- 6:52evidence. What's the white stuff? Hypothesized evolutionary. It's like, so what does that mean?
- 6:58That means there's no evidence. If you got rid of the white stuff, then one thing stayed one
- 7:01thing never changed from or did anything else. I think we have another explanation for that. But
- 7:04let's go to the next chart. And after like three charts, 10 minutes, oh my goodness. They pulled
- 7:09the fire alarm to get me out. My son came up to me. The kids, one young man jumped up, finally,
- 7:14something that was interesting. And you did this. I mean, he yelled this. There's a thousand kids
- 7:18in there. And they're walking by and I had kids going, thank you, thank you. And then my son
- 7:23came out to me and said, Dad, you better take your computer. He said the whole time you were
- 7:27speaking, the science teacher was screaming at the principal that this is illegal. I'm going to
- 7:32report this. So she pulled the fire alarm to get the whole thing stopped. Oh my goodness. So it was
- 7:37like, this is, look, I told the, I told the first, first of all, science teachers, right? And I
- 7:45told them, I said, look, you gave me 30 minutes. By the time I got up, I only had 20, all right?
- 7:50The average time a young person spends in a school is 900 hours a year. I said, if you gave me those
- 7:56children for 900 hours a year, I'd give you a whole hour. Come in and do your best because I'm
- 8:00going to blow you out of the water for the other 899 hours. I said, if you're afraid of what I can
- 8:05do in 20 minutes, how bad is your position? So it was a, it was a good time to have a conversation
- 8:11anyway. So that's a great setup to the fact that the theory of evolution is taught as true science.
- 8:20In fact, in the government run schools, and they will not tolerate the creation account, the
- 8:26biblical worldview that. And I say that, friends, because we do have some in our audience, a lot of,
- 8:32you know, children that are still in the public schools that the parents really maybe they don't
- 8:37understand that or maybe they don't know how radicalized it's become hostile against the
- 8:42biblical worldview. Because that was, and you didn't even preach the gospel or anything.
- 8:47No, I didn't use the Bible. I didn't talk about God. I just said, look, this is what happened.
- 8:51These things turned, but there's no evidence for that. So maybe there's another way. But David,
- 8:56I also want to be gracious in that. Look, there are families that they can't afford public school.
- 9:01I'm a single parent. I don't have time to homeschool. So I don't want to attack anybody. But here's
- 9:06the thing that I would say to any parent. If you are able, if you are able, you have got to get
- 9:12engaged in the education of your child. Because it's not the government's job. It's not the church's
- 9:16job to educate your child. It's the parents job. And specifically, the Bible mentions fathers,
- 9:21fathers train your children. Now, there are a lot of single parent homes out there, single moms,
- 9:26and I'm not attacking them. So that means you need a body of Christ around you to help you accomplish
- 9:30what you're supposed to do. But dads, dads, if you have to teach your responsibility to the
- 9:34government, the church, or the mom, there, I made everybody mad. That's home school, Chris is
- 9:37cool, right? If you have to teach your responsibility to any one of those, you're not going to like the
- 9:42outcome because it's your job to be engaged. They can help you in your responsibility, but you
- 9:47got to be engaged and you can do it. You can teach a child a child how to think, not what to think.
- 9:53And that's why I love the zoos of museums and that application component. So I say that because
- 9:57it's been years since you were able to speak in a public school, which is very tolerant of school
- 10:02administrations run by the government, but you're going to be doing it next week in Kansas. Yeah,
- 10:07yeah. I was blown out of the water last night and talked to the pastor and I looked down at the
- 10:12schedule and it's busy. I mean, I'm like speaking four times a day for five days and I see this
- 10:18school community college. I said, are these Christian schools? Is it a Christian school? He said,
- 10:25no, it's a secular school. I said, you got me into secular school. It's been over 12 years since I
- 10:29got in one. He said, no, I got you in two. So one of the two public schools, government schools
- 10:35out in Kansas and praising God for the fact that people are still trying to get this message out.
- 10:42Look, I just put it like this. Yes, it's crazy. And it might even be crazier now because of this
- 10:47last election. All right. God is still on the throne. Go down swinging. I don't care who who is
- 10:53out there and in charge and all that stuff. God is still ultimately in charge. Our mission hasn't
- 10:57changed. It has not changed. We got to be busy and we got to be about God's business. Don't let
- 11:01anybody get in your way and stop you. Preach the gospel. If necessary use words, no, no, no,
- 11:06that's that's not a good one. No, I was thinking about preach the word in season and out of season.
- 11:11I brought up that. You know what? Okay, I got to go there now that I brought that up because I never
- 11:14liked that quote. I hate it because that means if necessary use words, yeah, people can go to hell
- 11:20thinking you're a good person or a nice person and not know the gospel. Yeah, let's do all this
- 11:24nice stuff. But why you're doing what you're doing is just as important in my humble opinion many
- 11:30times as to what you're doing. And they're not going to know the why unless you open your lips.
- 11:34And so we have to be, that's why our ministry, our tagline is when it comes to our faith you have
- 11:39to know it, live it, share it because knowing it is important. God commands us to study to show
- 11:44ourselves approved to have an answer for the reason for the hope to lies within us. But but then
- 11:48you got to live it because if your life and your lips aren't in sync, that's called hypocrisy.
- 11:52Number one, attack against Christianity. Yeah, so your life has to be in sync with it,
- 11:57but then you have to share it because if you if you live a perfect life, have all the answers
- 12:01and you never get to the preaching of the gospel, it's worthless. And so we need all three.
- 12:06So we've got a couple minutes before take a break over at Reasons for Hope. That's our for h.com.
- 12:13There's something over there about what is it? A retreat equip retreat. We talked a little bit
- 12:19about that before we got on the podcast. Fastening what you guys are doing. I love equip because
- 12:23pastors aren't not enough pastors are doing it. Yeah. What are you doing to equip? And are these
- 12:28for kids? Families go ahead. It is junior high up. Families can come. Parents can come with their
- 12:34children. Of course, equip retreats. We do them right now. We're in South Carolina. We're in
- 12:40Georgia. We're going to be in Virginia next year. Illinois, Montana. So we're we're spread out
- 12:48all over the place. And we're trying to grow them even more. But it's 17. We have 17 teaching
- 12:53sessions over five days, David. I've had parents literally tell me, Oh, no, please don't do that. My
- 12:58children will be calling on Tuesday. Want to come home. Never happened. Never happened. I've literally
- 13:03got video when I was in Georgia. No, so yeah, it was Georgia last year. And it was this year.
- 13:09The, you know, it's time, time. But in the Georgia camp, I'm speaking and I look down and we
- 13:14got so engaged. The kids were interacting and interacting. I looked down. I had like 30 minutes
- 13:18left of my talk, but I only had 15, 10, 15 minutes of time left. So I just off the cuff said,
- 13:24Hey, guys, let me skip ahead here so I can get us back on track and get you guys out on time
- 13:27because it was free time after I finished for the giant swing and the boats and all this stuff,
- 13:32right? I've guided on video. No, we don't want to go. We want to hear more. We don't have any
- 13:38place to go. The kids were literally crying out to keep going. And this is what we see is that
- 13:44when you're talking about issues that they're being confronted with, they want answers. They want
- 13:49me. Yes. And so that's what we do at the Equipri Treats, man. They are just going after this
- 13:54generation, giving them answers to the issues that they're confronted with. I got to share this
- 13:59story because one of those issues is the challenge with the LGBTQ indoctrination in the schools and
- 14:04Hollywood corporations and what's happening there. I spoke at a youth camp. This was about five
- 14:10years ago. It was a Bible camp, about a hundred Christian kids youth. And it was a Saturday night.
- 14:16They had free time after my session because I talked about creation and walked through that whole
- 14:21thing. And then I got to male female and just talked a little bit about that. And then from the
- 14:25biblical perspective, and I was done, I said, Hey, see, tomorrow, a lot of them stayed after.
- 14:30And there was a line of kids to ask me questions. Absolutely. Almost every person either had a comment
- 14:37or a question about, Hey, I have a friend who is LGBTQ or I have someone who thinks they're transgender.
- 14:43They wanted to ask me more about that. They wanted to hear more. Right. So these kids, these Christian
- 14:48kids want to know how to be able to respond. Absolutely. With love and truth. Absolutely.
- 14:54Grace and truth. Jesus, the perfect balance of grace and truth. Right. And I thought that was a
- 14:59unique story, but I'm looking over at this page. And one of the campers said, I'm excited to take
- 15:04all this and not just leave it at camp, but take it and bring it out and share it with all the
- 15:09people that I can. And I'm excited to get the opportunity to use the tools that I've been given
- 15:13to share. That's the third part of your Amen. Amen. So we've got to take a brief pause. Again,
- 15:20a Carl Kirby reasons for hope. We'll be right back on World View Matters.
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- 15:51download our free Freedom Project Media app on your iPhone. So Carl Kirby, the next topic
- 15:58we want to get to is the latest debunked. Yeah. First of all, we've got to we always have new
- 16:03audience members, new listeners and viewers. And they probably don't know what the heck debunked is.
- 16:09So if you can bullet point that and then share Biblical faith is blind faith. So share about what
- 16:16debunked is and then tell us about the new one. Well, the easiest way that I explained it is that
- 16:20we're going after a generation that has a 2.2 second attention span. Now, people understand what I'm
- 16:25talking about. Younger generation. That's what the research supposedly shows, right? Which, by the
- 16:31way, is supposedly less than a goldfish. Wait a minute. What would you say? What exactly? I read
- 16:38this article. They said that they did goldfish. A goldfish has a three second attention span. Now,
- 16:44first of all, David, who in the world is going to do that research and how? I mean, you got to stop
- 16:48watch a goldfish and what's a goldfish going to pay attention to? Bubbles. I mean, just good. Yeah.
- 16:54I mean, and number two, who paid for it, I think are tax dollars. Yeah, government. We are there.
- 16:59But anyway, so if you want to go after that generation, you can't do it with today. We're going
- 17:04to they're gone. Yeah. Right? So we take on topics. What are the topics that they're bringing
- 17:10up? Because at our camps, when we do the equipery treat, index and we put out index cards every day.
- 17:15What are the questions keeping you from selling out for the Lord Jesus Christ? Turn them in. And
- 17:18that's what we deal with during the week. And so we then take those topics and what are the most
- 17:22prevalent? And then we take it and we debunk it. So they're animated three and a half to five
- 17:27minute animated fast paced videos that address all kind of issues. And the latest is biblical faith
- 17:33is blind faith debunked. And the reason we do it that way is believe it or not. Well, you probably
- 17:40understand this. We get banned and blocked on YouTube and Facebook and all those any social
- 17:46media platform. Are you violating community standards? Come on. Brother, you I can read you the
- 17:53reasons that they're banning our stuff and blocking our stuff. So what we did, this is look
- 18:00to me, no means yes, in a foreign language. I just got to figure out what language
- 18:05of speaking, right? So they would block us if we did a positive on, you know, it's it's
- 18:13it's biblically it's wrong to judge, right? If you put it like that where the Bible is wrong,
- 18:18they'll do that. But if you put it in a positive where the Bible doesn't say it's wrong to judge,
- 18:22they're going to ban that. So we had to get to the stage where it's like, so our next debunk
- 18:26coming out, there's nothing wrong with pornography debunked, right? Because hey, see that's going
- 18:32to feed the flesh. There's nothing wrong with the world to the world is going to feed the flesh.
- 18:36But then the debunked allows us to come in and now we're going completely and totally opposite.
- 18:41So we caught a lot of flack from our brothers and sisters saying, you know, wow, you know,
- 18:45you're saying that it's okay. No, you got to understand what we're dealing with. We're dealing with
- 18:49the world that doesn't play fair. So we're not going to play fair. When we give the message, we
- 18:54don't water down. Like I said, it's animated, fast-paced, biblical, solid. But we're dealing with it
- 18:59in a way that we can even get the world to hopefully look at it. And they're incredibly fast-paced,
- 19:05very well done and I'm very engaging and no wonder youth, once they get into that, they're going
- 19:10to watch it. So I did want to talk about briefly hell ain't a bad place to be debunked. Yeah,
- 19:19hell is just going to party with my friends. That's what God has said. Hell ain't such a bad place
- 19:23to be. Well, because think of it, the world that we're living in now, hey, let's go to hell,
- 19:28we're all going to party together. My friends are all going to be there. I want to be in hell.
- 19:31It's not a party. It is going to be what the Scripture tells us about it. Nobody should want to go
- 19:37there. Now, when you hear me speak, you've seen me speak and everything. And a lot of times I use
- 19:43a lot of sarcasm, humor to try to engage people. But there's some things that we can't even be
- 19:49funny on. And hell is one of them. There's no joke about it. People are going to spend eternity
- 19:53in either one of two places. And we have to love them enough to tell them the truth. And so
- 19:58that's what we do with hell. It is a real place because of real sin and there's real consequences.
- 20:04And we have to be honest. So I haven't asked you about this. I just now thinking of it. I've
- 20:09talked to one, Beldez, Holly Varnum, and Frank Figaro, Jr. And in fact, I think I connected with him.
- 20:17He was in Hawaii. Probably. Yeah. So and you, of course, over at rforh.com reasons for hope.
- 20:23If someone wants to bring in a speaker or even, I don't know, do an event. Just how do people do that?
- 20:30They could go to rfrh.com and see the speaker tab. And there's a place there that they could
- 20:37request a speaker. If they download our app as well. And man, there's hours of free content
- 20:43and they're all the debunk videos are on there under the debunk tab plus debunk TV, which are
- 20:4828 minute programs, fleshing out the arguments that are used in the three minute video. So parents,
- 20:53you watched that 28 minute video. So now you feel more comfortable to use the video as a tool
- 20:59to witness to your friends. There's a just for kids section on there. One month devotional.
- 21:04All that design feature on animals and everything. Six and four animal six videos each.
- 21:10Ninety second video. You watch it. There's questions based on the animal answers are in there for
- 21:14the parents. And then there's a coloring sheet. If you got the ADD gang. And that's all under there
- 21:18for fast, fast facts under just for kids. And so if they download that, even if they go under events
- 21:25tab on there, there's a place where they could even request a speaker to come in. So I've got it
- 21:29reasons for hope app full gospel debunked apologetics, read our blog events, equip retreat.
- 21:38There's a merge espaniol. Oh yeah. Yeah. Did Juan put that up? One. One. Yeah. One. And we're doing
- 21:45even more. We're doing even more. Awesome. So the next thing we're five minutes already.
- 21:52See I told you about fast. You have what's called impact a curriculum. Tell us about that car.
- 21:57One of the first lesson or one of the lessons I should say is on the app as well so people can see
- 22:03what we're doing. And we're taking on the the tough questions that the that the world throws at us.
- 22:08But then what we do is we take that know it, live it, share it approach. So out of the units that
- 22:14are there, it's not meant to be like one a week. Right. I mean, if it takes you three weeks to go
- 22:19through unit one, you go through it. But what we're doing is we use the debunk videos. And that's
- 22:23kind of a catalyst so the kids will get something. A lot of video in the teaching so that whatever
- 22:30issue that we're addressing like how do we know Jesus is God? What about the Trinity and those
- 22:35types of things? We address those types of topics, but we deal with them from that know it,
- 22:40live it, share it, component so that not only do you have the answers, but then you know how to
- 22:43go out and do something with it. And so it's really it's just a way of putting feet to our faith
- 22:49quite frankly. Awesome. Impact curriculum. You guys are on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube. You're still
- 22:55on YouTube. They allow you. Absolutely. We get, well, TikTok is where we've, I think we're on
- 23:01number six because they block us like our videos will blow up. We thought it was blocking you.
- 23:06Oh, it's hard to believe. We put the video, we'll get a hundred thousand views and then all
- 23:11the sudden stop done. Too popular. Yep. And it just so we've we've had and then we put another
- 23:16video up after that. Nothing happens. So we've had to, okay, we'll start a new channel. I think
- 23:22we're on number six. So isn't it interesting? I just thought about China created TikTok, right?
- 23:29Put that out there, but they you you cannot, if you're in China, you can't be on it. You can't
- 23:34know. No, you can't. They prevent their kids. Can you help me make sense of that? But you had
- 23:39American kids are just soaking it up on TikTok. It makes as much sense as the people out in California
- 23:44that are making all of these wonderful apps and all these kind of things want to let their own
- 23:47child have a smart device. Is they're dicting? They know. And there's exactly what it's doing.
- 23:52And if you're a Christian, there's some bad stuff on there and some of these apps and some of
- 23:57these links can take you to places, parents. That is the hard thing. Yes, we're in all those places.
- 24:03But it's not like I really want people to go to those places, but if they're going to be there,
- 24:07at least there's something that you can not go down that other road because you're so right,
- 24:12there's so much bad stuff available. Well, what you said was important earlier and
- 24:16how did you put it that you whatever means you need to use to get the gospel and get the truth
- 24:20out there because I've been shadow banned and censored and that's why I have a rumble channel as
- 24:26well. And you know, we have to just be on whatever platforms we can. If we're as long as we still
- 24:32have free speech and we do. And that's the thing. Look, we're going down swinging. We know, we know,
- 24:38we know it's crazy. There's so many bad things and right now people might be really, really distraught
- 24:45go down swinging. Do not let circumstances surrounding you keep you from doing what we're called to
- 24:51do, which is to go out and speak the truth and love to a world that needs to know there's another way.
- 24:55Yeah, interesting that you said some people are distraught. I'm wondering because like I said,
- 25:01friends, this is pre-recorded and this is the week before the election. Yeah. And we don't know
- 25:06what the results are. So most people in our audience are feeling one way or another. Yeah,
- 25:12it's kind of interesting to see, but I think you said it earlier that we've got to have our focus
- 25:17on Christ. Absolutely. On God's sovereignty, we're here for such a time as this and go down
- 25:23swinging, fighting the good fight two minutes left, just to allow you to encourage our viewers.
- 25:29Well, you know, one of the things that I say is that the darker gets the brighter we should shine.
- 25:33So regardless of what's going on in the culture, God has called us to be a light that's on a hill.
- 25:38And so if it's getting dark and you're feeling like, oh, what can I do? What you can do is turn it
- 25:43over to the Lord Jesus Christ and allow him to use you. There are so many ways that we can
- 25:49be a light in this culture. I mean, sometimes it's through a kind word. Sometimes it's through an
- 25:53action. But I can guarantee you this. One of the talks that I give, I have a video that talks
- 25:58about this young lady who's an atheist. And at the very end, it's a man on the street interview,
- 26:03the interview was over, the interviewer to put the microphone on the table, but the camera kept
- 26:07running. And she had already told us she's an atheist and all this stuff. But she said, you know,
- 26:11I'm looking everywhere for somebody to explain it. I'm looking and I can't find anybody.
- 26:18She's getting answers. This is what I would say to people. You have people living next door to you
- 26:22that are looking for someone to explain it. Get engaged in your faith. Trust the Lord with all your
- 26:27heart, soul, mind, strength. That's where apologetics comes in and then get out and do something with it.
- 26:34Carl, a man of action. And it's always great to see you. Good to have you in studio.
- 26:40I'm looking forward to hearing a report from your public school experience when you get over to
- 26:44Kansas. I can't argue. I really don't know what to expect. I don't. I really don't. Because you
- 26:53were kicked out of the last public school. And that was in Pennsylvania, right? Yeah. So it's,
- 26:57it is with fear and trepidation that I go before that. Well, I really appreciate you and your
- 27:01ministry and what you guys are doing over at Reasons for Hope and debunked. It's a great way.
- 27:07We're not reaching youth like you guys are. Yeah. We all have different positions to play on the
- 27:12biblical worldview team. Body of Christ, brother. Amen. Body of Christ. Well, God bless you.
- 27:16May he enlarge your territory, brother. Thank you. David and made the Lord.
- 27:19Richly bless what you're doing here. Thanks, brother. All right, guys. R4H.com. Make sure to get their
- 27:26app reasons for hope app on your iPhone. Well, again, I hope you're doing well no matter what's
- 27:31going on out there in the world. And maybe the election results haven't even been tabulated.
- 27:35Maybe we don't know yet at this point. It's going to be fun. It's a faith adventure. God bless you.
- 27:41And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.