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Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh just you, I am all
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Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey,
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Speaker 1: everybody's Scott Patterson. I Am all in Podcast. One on
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Speaker 1: one interview with Adam Shapiro. Adam is an actor and
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Speaker 1: he appeared on one episode of Gilmore Girls as Sugarman,
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Speaker 1: Season four, episode five, The Fundamental Things Apply. Uh. He's
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Speaker 1: an actor and director from Philadelphia, my hometown, known for
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Speaker 1: the film Steve Jobs, TV shows Never Have I Ever
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Speaker 1: on Netflix and The Affair. He's been married to Katie
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Speaker 1: Lows since two thousand and twelve. They have two children,
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Speaker 1: and recently, during the pandemic, Adam and his wife started
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Speaker 1: a pretzel company. When Katie was co hosting Live with
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Speaker 1: Kelly and Ryan, she mentioned her husband's prenzel obsession to
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Speaker 1: host Ryan Seacrest. Next day, the first of many citywide
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Speaker 1: deliveries came to see christ door. After just one bite,
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Speaker 1: the man was hooked and the on air Rave reviews
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Speaker 1: ensued with that shappy Pretzel company was off to the
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Speaker 1: races and I bring Let's bring him in. Now let's
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Speaker 1: talk to Adam Shapiro. Adam, Hello, welcome to the show.
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Speaker 1: How are you, Yeah, baby, I'm good. So first and foremost,
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Speaker 1: tell us how you got the job. First of all,
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Speaker 1: was the audition process, Like, for you, how did I
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Speaker 1: get the job on Gilma? All right? So one of
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Speaker 1: the things about Gilma, it was my first audition I
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Speaker 1: ever booked. I had a line on one television show
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Speaker 1: when I was a p A on The Andy Dick
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Speaker 1: Show while I was in college, and and that was
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Speaker 1: that wasn't you know. I didn't audition for that of
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Speaker 1: It's just like who you put your walkie talking down
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Speaker 1: and go say this line on the show. Yes, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna get my SAG card, you know. Gilmore Girls, I
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Speaker 1: think was my first audition that I booked, um and um.
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Speaker 1: I just it was just just straight go to the
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Speaker 1: audition with a bunch of dudes show up. So it
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Speaker 1: was it was like my first time really on a set,
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Speaker 1: um and first time really doing the whole thing, you know.
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Speaker 1: Like I remember I showed up to the to the
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Speaker 1: wardrobe fitting and I was wearing a Temple Basketball T
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Speaker 1: shirt that's like my favorite team guy and it said
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Speaker 1: winning as an Attitude coach John Cheney Temple Basketball or whatever,
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Speaker 1: and the I forget if it was the costume designer
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Speaker 1: or maybe an assistance. She was like, I went to Temple.
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Speaker 1: That's so crazy that you're wearing that shirt. You should
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Speaker 1: wear it on the show. On the show, I am
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Speaker 1: wearing a Temple basketball shirt that says winning as an
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Speaker 1: attitude and they just sort of pinned my overshirt over
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Speaker 1: the logo and I have that a picture screen grab
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Speaker 1: of me wearing that shirt, signed by Temple basketball coach
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Speaker 1: John Cheney. Wow. So that was a big you know,
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Speaker 1: for my first time really on TV, to be able
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Speaker 1: to represent my favorite team like that. So you were
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Speaker 1: part yeah, the Temple Owls, the legend of the Temple Owls.
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Speaker 1: You were. So you were part of the breakfast crew
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Speaker 1: at Yale when Rory uh went in there in her
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Speaker 1: pajamas and her slippers. Do you what do you remember
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Speaker 1: about that day? Filming? That day? All right? Funny? Well
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Speaker 1: so uh. The actor sitting next to me is Ethan Cone,
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Speaker 1: who I'm still good friends with. Love that man, Um,
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Speaker 1: I remember, you know, it's so funny now, I mean
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Speaker 1: it's its twenty years, Like, how long is it go?
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Speaker 1: When did we shoot this? This is two thousands, so
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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen years ago? Thanks years ago? So I you know,
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Speaker 1: it is so much harder to be in a scene
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Speaker 1: with one line than it is to be in a
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Speaker 1: scene with like fifty lines, you know, and you know
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Speaker 1: my line and in that in that episode is nice
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Speaker 1: bunny shoes. That is That's it. I just say nice
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Speaker 1: bunny shoes. And all I remember was trying two um
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Speaker 1: not just not mess up the whole scene with my
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Speaker 1: one line. And the hard part about the one line
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Speaker 1: thing is you have to like act like you're not
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Speaker 1: just sitting there waiting for your line when that is
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Speaker 1: all you are doing. All you are doing that you
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Speaker 1: have to live. You have to live that reality every
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Speaker 1: moment of that scene in order to for people to
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Speaker 1: believe your one line get all the way to get
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Speaker 1: all And you know, the other thing was is I
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Speaker 1: you know, I come from theater. I had never done
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Speaker 1: a TV show, so I was completely unaware of like
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Speaker 1: where the cameras were, what that what my eye line was,
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Speaker 1: so I couldn't. I remember not being able to see
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Speaker 1: her money shoes, but having to say nice bunny shoes,
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Speaker 1: and I kept standing up so that I could see
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Speaker 1: her money shoes with my and I remember the director
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Speaker 1: being like, just you're you're you're stepping out of frame.
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Speaker 1: You're down, and stay nice monny shoes and move on.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I was trying to make up total
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Speaker 1: meal out of it, and so I remember that really well.
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Speaker 1: I remember Alexis being really wonderful, and I remember her
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Speaker 1: saying she was like right here, she covered my face
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Speaker 1: and she was like, you look exactly like my low
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Speaker 1: in your like eyes. Oh my gosh, let me say,
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Speaker 1: let me say, let me say that. I don't, I don't,
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Speaker 1: I don't see it. Hang no, no, do it? Do it?
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Speaker 1: Do it? Do open your eyes. You're squinting kind of
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Speaker 1: I'm a squinter. I don't know what. She was like,
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Speaker 1: you look you got And then he came on set
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Speaker 1: to visit. I don't know, maybe they were dating or
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Speaker 1: something at the time. I don't know, but but it
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Speaker 1: was like, um, and then I met him, and then
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Speaker 1: I remember it was also like around I forget exactly
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Speaker 1: when we were shooting the episode, but um, I had
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Speaker 1: gone to a passover sader. It was my first passover
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Speaker 1: statter in Los Angeles, and it was at Marta Kaufman's house,
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Speaker 1: who we all know is the producer of Friends, creator
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Speaker 1: and producer of Friends and I went with some family
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Speaker 1: friends of mine who were like, oh, you should come
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Speaker 1: to our satire and it just happened to be at
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Speaker 1: MARTA's house and it happened to be one of the
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Speaker 1: coolest things, like to to date that I've been to
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Speaker 1: because it was just such an amazing group of people.
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Speaker 1: And um. She said to me, Hey, if you're ever
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Speaker 1: on the Warner Brothers lot, come come over to Friends
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Speaker 1: and say hi. Now, like twenty years later, I now
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Speaker 1: know that means like you're you know what I mean? Like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if she meant to knock on the
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Speaker 1: door friends the moment I was on the Warner Brothers
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Speaker 1: law and asked for her, but that's what I did.
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Speaker 1: So we broke for lunch at Gilmore Girls and I
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Speaker 1: walked to the Friends stage and I knocked on the
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Speaker 1: door and this was like the peak of friends um
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Speaker 1: insanity and I UM and a big security guard came
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Speaker 1: out and was like, who are you And I was like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm Adam Shapiro. Marta invited me to just come by
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Speaker 1: anytime I was on the Warner Brothers lot, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know he he like whired. He got all the
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Speaker 1: way to Marta whatever and they were like, yep, come
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Speaker 1: on in. And I walked in, and I walked through
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Speaker 1: the sort of backstage area and I go through a
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Speaker 1: door and I'm sitting in the central perk on a
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Speaker 1: couch with entire cast in rehearsals. And Martha comes out
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Speaker 1: and says hi and introducing me the whole cast, and
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Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, this is my first
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Speaker 1: day on a TV show and now I'm on another
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Speaker 1: set and it's friends and I'm in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the cast on stage. I mean, it was just such
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Speaker 1: a ridiculously impactful, epic day for me. You were two
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Speaker 1: time in this man. I was completely too you were
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Speaker 1: too time. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe my luck.
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Speaker 1: I had a line on a TV show and I
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Speaker 1: was on stage and they they came. They came to
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Speaker 1: find you during lunch to offer you more so, just
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Speaker 1: where is his overt? Friends? And you almost screw that.
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Speaker 1: I also learned that they're important lesson that actors need
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Speaker 1: to eat first and eat quickly so that they can
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Speaker 1: get back into hair and makeup and be ready once
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Speaker 1: the cruise done their lunches, and I kind of all
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Speaker 1: that up. Oh how it just took too long because
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Speaker 1: I wasn't friends the whole lunch and I came back like, oh,
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Speaker 1: now I can get lunch, and they were like, that's
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Speaker 1: not how lunch works. Man. You gotta when it's lunchtime,
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Speaker 1: you get out of whatever you're gonna stay in, and
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Speaker 1: you move on and you get in lunch. And if
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Speaker 1: there's a huge line of crew guys, they put you
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Speaker 1: in the front. And I'm always like, no, don't put
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Speaker 1: me in the front. They're like, we're not putting you
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Speaker 1: in the front because we think you're so spec you're
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Speaker 1: gonna get it, because because we're really special and we
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Speaker 1: control everything, and we we don't want to pay extra
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Speaker 1: because it took you too long to this is what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's the same with the chair. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm an actor. I get the chair
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Speaker 1: and it says Adams appear on the back of the
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Speaker 1: chair that chairs a crib. It's a crib for the baby,
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Speaker 1: and so they know where the baby is and when
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Speaker 1: the bonus time for the baby to get up, they
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Speaker 1: can go over to the crib and then be like,
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Speaker 1: all right, Adam, are ready for you. It's not because
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Speaker 1: they want you to be comfortable, you know. Um, that's
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Speaker 1: what I remember from the day. It was a pretty
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Speaker 1: epic day. So how long before Gilmore? Uh, had you
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Speaker 1: move from Philadelphia to l A? About a year? A
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Speaker 1: year or so I moved, um to l A. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know if I want to be an actor, just
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Speaker 1: work in Hollywood. I've met with a really great talent
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Speaker 1: manager named Connie Tavill And Um, she was from Philly
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Speaker 1: and she we had some Philly connections, and she was
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Speaker 1: the first person I met when I moved to Hollywood.
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Speaker 1: And she was like, listen, I think you've got the
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Speaker 1: personality to be an actor. I think you you you
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Speaker 1: seem to be. You know that you want this, and
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Speaker 1: and you come from a good family and he seems
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Speaker 1: like they're supporting you with this. And UM, what I
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Speaker 1: would suggest for you, my piece of advice for you
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Speaker 1: would be forget about acting for one year. Take one
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Speaker 1: year in l A and be an assistant to like
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Speaker 1: an agent or a manager, and learn the business of acting.
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Speaker 1: Understand why people get cast, why they don't get cast,
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Speaker 1: How actors who are self destructive kind of ruin their
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Speaker 1: own careers, How actors that are really self starters can
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Speaker 1: like give themselves a really big boost, like find out
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Speaker 1: what it takes so that when you do become an actor,
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Speaker 1: you've got a foundation of like how this business actually works.
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Speaker 1: And because it's a marathon, it's not a sprint. And
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Speaker 1: she's like, I think if you just jump into trying
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Speaker 1: to get an audition right now, hey, you're not going
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Speaker 1: to get one. You don't have a resume, you don't
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Speaker 1: have a real you don't have any experience or an agent. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a really rough first year and you're
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Speaker 1: finally going to squeak into a couple auditions at some point,
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Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get it, and you're gonna take
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Speaker 1: it really personally and you're not gonna understand how this
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Speaker 1: all works. So I did that, and I was an
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Speaker 1: assistant to a manager for a year. Which manager can
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Speaker 1: you say? Yeah, his name was Ted Shackter. He's still
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Speaker 1: a big old manager with a bunch of clients. I
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Speaker 1: see him all the time. Wonderful guy. It and uh,
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Speaker 1: he had a partner um that I was kind of
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Speaker 1: like his partner's assistant, But the partner was like a
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Speaker 1: total dead dead beat, Like you gotta run out of
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Speaker 1: Town long Ago, Um, for probably seven thousand different reasons. Um.
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Speaker 1: But the good part about that guy really never showing
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Speaker 1: up to work and not doing his job is I
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Speaker 1: got to do his job a lot. You know. It's
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Speaker 1: a very low paid intern, but I got to do
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Speaker 1: the job of a manager. And I got really close
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Speaker 1: with a bunch of actors who I'm still really good
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Speaker 1: friends with them, like Ken Marino I ran into the
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Speaker 1: other day, and Ken Mitchell and Lawrence Dimile and Joe Latrulio,
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Speaker 1: and like I can like list off my clients from
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Speaker 1: that year, and uh Eddie Jamison and Frank John Hughes,
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Speaker 1: and I remember going through all the trials and tribulations
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Speaker 1: of their own sort of casting and and auditions and
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Speaker 1: and getting to watch how they all did it. Like,
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Speaker 1: you know, uh, David Hornsby just one of the executive
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Speaker 1: brisions of Always Studding in Philadelphia and one of the
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Speaker 1: actors on Mythic Quest. He's incredible, And I got to
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Speaker 1: like watch that kid go from college to like killing it,
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Speaker 1: and he was a huge inspiration for me. Anyway, at
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Speaker 1: the end of that whole year, I quit that job
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Speaker 1: and I got a commercial agent, and I immediately booked
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Speaker 1: like a T Mobile campaign where I it was all
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Speaker 1: improv and I was like, yo, it's Adam Shapiro. I
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Speaker 1: want a road trip. And I went on this like
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Speaker 1: road trip around the country with my like T mobile
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Speaker 1: cell service. That was great anywhere you are in the country.
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Speaker 1: This was like two thousand three or whatever. And and
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Speaker 1: then that commercial sort of like quickly sort of put
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Speaker 1: me on the mat. It just gave me something to show.
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Speaker 1: And that manager, Connie who gave me that advice, was like, hey,
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Speaker 1: with this commercial, I can start, I can get you
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Speaker 1: some up. And so she started representing me and she
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Speaker 1: sent me out for Gilmore Girls. Fantastic. Yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: that's kind of you know, it sounds like a very
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Speaker 1: traditional path. You know. You come out here, you get
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Speaker 1: a manager, you get involved, you get a commercial, you
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Speaker 1: start building. Yeah, just start building, like yeah, yeah, you don't.
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Speaker 1: You know it's people just don't come into town and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, bab boom they're in a big
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Speaker 1: feature film. I mean that happens, that happens once every
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Speaker 1: ten years, seeing it happen to people. But yeah, that
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Speaker 1: is the rarest. It's very it's very very rare. I
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Speaker 1: also remember Wayne who plays I guess he was the guy.
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Speaker 1: He's the guy who brings. He's like in our Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 1: He was on the episode. I think he was like
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Speaker 1: running naked in the episode or the episode beforehand, like
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Speaker 1: streaking through Yale. He was. I I remember seeing him
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Speaker 1: in the Rent movie and just being like, oh, so
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Speaker 1: jealous he got that role. I had auditioned for that role, right, right, So,
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Speaker 1: of course you've had many roles since then. We can
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Speaker 1: talk about some of them. But but your wife, Kate
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Speaker 1: Katie Lows, is an actress, and how did you too meet? Yeah? So, um,
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Speaker 1: there's an actress name named Lindsay Kraft who's on Grayson
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Speaker 1: Frankie as well as a million other things. And um,
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Speaker 1: we went to University of Maryland together. She when we graduated,
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Speaker 1: she went to New York to become an actor in
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Speaker 1: New York. And I moved to l A. And about
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Speaker 1: a year or so, um, and or maybe two or
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Speaker 1: two or three years actually after I moved to l A.
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Speaker 1: She called me and said, hey, I auditioned against this
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Speaker 1: girl in New York and Katie Lows, and and you're
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Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna marry her. She's gonna move to l
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Speaker 1: A and you're gonna marry her? Like just wow, okay.
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Speaker 1: And this was like pre social media too, so I
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Speaker 1: was just like, okay, I don't know who she is
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Speaker 1: or what she looks like. You can't stalk her, you
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Speaker 1: can't go on Instagram. Um. And then she ended up
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Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles and we met at Lindsay's birthday
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Speaker 1: her at the time, her her boyfriend's birthday party, and
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Speaker 1: and then it was it was a weird courtship, but
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Speaker 1: it happened. And then and then we got married ten
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Speaker 1: years ago. Fantastic congratulation for like seventeen years or something
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Speaker 1: like that. Unbelievable. So and so she was co hosting
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Speaker 1: with Ryan Seacrest and she mentioned your pretzel business. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's all started. Tell us about shappy pretzels. Tells us
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Speaker 1: so this is the best. This is the best. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, she was doing Inventing Anna, which was a
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Speaker 1: Netflix series that was on last last season or I
16:51
Speaker 1: don't know if you can even call things seasons anymore.
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Speaker 1: It was just on recently on Netflix. UM, and I
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Speaker 1: was doing Never Have I Ever also for Netflix, and
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Speaker 1: the pandemic started and we had to just all sort
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Speaker 1: of come back together and move back into our house
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Speaker 1: in l A for a quarantine. We found out very
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Speaker 1: quickly after the lockdown started in March that she was
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Speaker 1: pregnant with our now two year old daughter, Vera and
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Speaker 1: uh and and are now five year old. Was was
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Speaker 1: was a two year old living in this quarantine with
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Speaker 1: his parents in l A. And Katie's pregnant and really quarantined,
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Speaker 1: and she's like in the bedroom, She's like, I'll see
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Speaker 1: you in nine months. I don't know what this is
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Speaker 1: going to be like. And so I just started cooking
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Speaker 1: with my son and making him dishes from like places
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Speaker 1: that you know, his mom and I traveled before he
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Speaker 1: was born. And we were just googling dishes and Amazon
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Speaker 1: and ingredients and stuff to the house. And um, one
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Speaker 1: day I was like, what am I doing? I should
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Speaker 1: be making a Philly pretzel for him. It's like, he's
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Speaker 1: too he needs to have his first Philadelphia pretzel. This
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Speaker 1: is like what I grew up on. And um, and
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Speaker 1: then I very quickly realized that like, there's not there's
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Speaker 1: no recipes for Philly pretzels online. It's not like a
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Speaker 1: thing that people make at home. And it's actually not
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Speaker 1: a thing people even eat outside of Philadelphia or like
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, parts of Delaware, maybe parts of New York.
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Speaker 1: It's a really regional cuisine and I am and so
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Speaker 1: I just started finding recipes for other soft pretzels and
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Speaker 1: then trying to make my own recipe for a Philly
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Speaker 1: soft pretzel. And it was a few months of of
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Speaker 1: really really shitty soft pretzels that I was making, and
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Speaker 1: then one day I brought a batch out of the
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Speaker 1: oven and I bring in Katie to taste test, and
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Speaker 1: she's like, this is a Philip pretzel. This is a
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Speaker 1: great soft pretzel. And I'm like, right, this is like
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Speaker 1: this is insane. Really, no one makes them. They're too prevalent.
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Speaker 1: It'd be like making a doughnut in Los Angeles. You
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Speaker 1: could just go right down the street and there's seven
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Speaker 1: thousand donut shops in l A. Like, never waste your
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Speaker 1: time making a donut. And that's how it is in Philly,
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Speaker 1: Like no one makes these. You just go down the street.
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Speaker 1: You got your guy who sells pretzels on top of
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Speaker 1: a shopping car. You pick up a couple of pretzels,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe like ten, bring him to wherever you're going.
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Speaker 1: So I, Um, I start making him and I start
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Speaker 1: dropping them off to like Philly ex pats that live
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Speaker 1: in l a that are stuck in their houses. And
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Speaker 1: then one day, uh, you know, Katie's had this job
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Speaker 1: ever since. Um we did Waitress together on Broadway, uh
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Speaker 1: like four years ago, and and we had done Live
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Speaker 1: with Kelly and Ryan to promote the fact that we
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Speaker 1: were doing Waitress, and they were like, Katie, could you
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Speaker 1: come back tomorrow and and co host with Ryan Kelly's out.
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Speaker 1: Katie was just like, I've never done anything like that life.
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Speaker 1: She does it, and now like four years later, she's
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Speaker 1: Kelly's like substitute. Really whatever. Whenever Kelly out, Katie jumps
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Speaker 1: on a plane ghost in New York and and and
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Speaker 1: does a few episodes Seacrest during the pandemic. Though when
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Speaker 1: she would fill in for for Kelly, it was a
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Speaker 1: live national broadcast live from our dining room via zoom,
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Speaker 1: just like you and I are doing right now. And um,
20:15
Speaker 1: there was a day where Seacrests just randomly mentions to Katie,
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Speaker 1: what have you guys been snacking on during your your quarantine?
20:23
Speaker 1: And She's like, Oh, my husband's obsessed with trying to
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Speaker 1: make a Philly Pretzel. There was no company. There was
20:27
Speaker 1: nothing at this point. I just jumped on TV and
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Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, Ryan, I'm bringing you pretzels tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: So I wake up at four in the morning, I
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Speaker 1: make a batch. I bring it over to Seacrest House
20:36
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. He eats them on air the next
20:39
Speaker 1: episode and he's like, these are the best pretzels ever.
20:41
Speaker 1: Everybody needs to buy Shappy's Pretzels. And I'm like, Shappy's Pretzels,
20:45
Speaker 1: it's just me and my two year old making them
20:48
Speaker 1: in my kitchen. Well, one thing led to another. I
20:50
Speaker 1: get the I get a website Shappy Petzel dot com
20:53
Speaker 1: just in case, and it just says, yo, your Mal's
20:55
Speaker 1: pretzel can go itself Shappy Pretzel and uh. It linked
21:01
Speaker 1: to an Instagram that said, hey, we're not an actual
21:03
Speaker 1: pretzel company, but if we ever become one, we'll let
21:05
Speaker 1: you know. And then all of a sudden, I started
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Speaker 1: like selling them like I was had a lemonade stand
21:10
Speaker 1: at the bottom of my driveway. And then like the
21:14
Speaker 1: news came, and then like the Hollywood Reporter and all
21:18
Speaker 1: these people started doing articles about it. And now two
21:21
Speaker 1: and a half years later, it's like a legit pretzel
21:24
Speaker 1: biz with a baker that we do tons of catering
21:27
Speaker 1: for film sets and weddings and pop ups. It's awesome, fantastic,
21:31
Speaker 1: But for you, it's honestly like, I think, my my
21:34
Speaker 1: favorite thing that's ever happened to me is this pretzel company.
21:37
Speaker 1: It's really fun um So has auditioning or making pretzels
21:42
Speaker 1: taken up most of your time, so you're focusing on
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Speaker 1: the pretzel company. Well, the funny thing is, so I
21:47
Speaker 1: just got during the pandemic, all I could do is
21:50
Speaker 1: the Pretzel company. It was awesome. It was the first
21:52
Speaker 1: time in my adult life that I didn't wake up
21:55
Speaker 1: with that sort of feeling that you as an actor,
21:57
Speaker 1: you're like, I gotta get a job today. You like
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Speaker 1: that that constant, and I had gotten so used to
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Speaker 1: that feeling. It wasn't until the Lockdown, and I've talked
22:07
Speaker 1: to a lot of actors about this, that it was
22:09
Speaker 1: like this sort of like weight off my shoulders, this
22:13
Speaker 1: like unbelievable relief. I hadn't even realized how much sort
22:20
Speaker 1: of daily pressure there is as as an actor, as
22:25
Speaker 1: like an independent contractor actor, to just constantly hustle for
22:31
Speaker 1: that next role until I was told there's no auditions
22:35
Speaker 1: and nothing shoot it and nothing's on stage, and I
22:39
Speaker 1: was like, holy, it was like it opened up a
22:42
Speaker 1: huge space in my brain, you know, And within two
22:46
Speaker 1: months I had like a Pretzel company, you know what
22:48
Speaker 1: I mean. It was like unbelievable how much sort of
22:52
Speaker 1: creative space opened up because of the pandemic for me,
22:56
Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to say that that was
22:58
Speaker 1: that had this sort of positive impact on me. One
23:01
Speaker 1: it was such a horrible thing, um, but yeah. So
23:06
Speaker 1: so for that first year, all I did was the Pretzels.
23:09
Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, well eventually work's
23:11
Speaker 1: gonna come back and I'm gonna have to go back
23:13
Speaker 1: to shooting. And so I hired a bunch of my
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Speaker 1: theater friends to help me at the at the Pretzel company,
23:19
Speaker 1: you know, specifically the stage managers, because as a theater person,
23:22
Speaker 1: the smartest people I know where stage managers. They could
23:25
Speaker 1: have won Nobel Prizes, but they just like love theater,
23:29
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm like, you guys
23:31
Speaker 1: are all off work, come come work at Shappy Pretzel.
23:35
Speaker 1: And so they're all still with me. I have like
23:37
Speaker 1: a team of a bunch of theater people that work
23:40
Speaker 1: with me at Shappy Pretzel. And then I just went
23:42
Speaker 1: to Budapest for the past like seven months to film
23:45
Speaker 1: a series called The Continental, and um, I was thinking,
23:51
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that might be it for the Pretzel company.
23:54
Speaker 1: That's a long time to be away, and it just
23:56
Speaker 1: kept going, you know. So let's get into um a
24:06
Speaker 1: section we call rapid fire. I'm just gonna fire questions
24:09
Speaker 1: at you and you give me the answers as fast
24:10
Speaker 1: as you can't. Okay, you ready? How many coups of
24:13
Speaker 1: caf do you have in a day? Zero? Are you
24:16
Speaker 1: Team Logan, Team jeff Er, Team Dean, Team Jaz? Who's
24:19
Speaker 1: your favorite Gilmore Girls character? You are? What would you
24:25
Speaker 1: order it Luke's Diner? What I order Luke's Diner? Um? Uh,
24:33
Speaker 1: milk like a like a chocolate and vanil and milk chake.
24:36
Speaker 1: What would you rather go on a road trip with
24:38
Speaker 1: Taylor or Michelle? Michelle? Why? I have no idea? All right,
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Speaker 1: finish the lyric and where you lead, I will follow
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Speaker 1: dot dot dot I'm I'm finishing after the dot dot
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Speaker 1: dot yes, and where you lead, I will follow dot
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Speaker 1: dot dot uh forever and ever close anywhere that you
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Speaker 1: tell me to. Okay, yeah, that's that's close. That's pretty close.
25:12
Speaker 1: I had the sentiment Jackson's Vegetables or Suki's Baked Goods,
25:17
Speaker 1: always baked goods. Would you rather listen to Drella's Harp
25:20
Speaker 1: or The Trouperdoors cover songs, cover songs, Children, Prepper Stars,
25:25
Speaker 1: Hollow High School? Yeah? All right, well that's uh, that's
25:33
Speaker 1: gonna bring us to the end of our little segment. Looks,
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Speaker 1: thanks for chatting with us. This was so much fun,
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Speaker 1: I know, and I want everybody to go to to
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Speaker 1: That's Shappy Pretzel dot com to check out Adams Pretzel business.
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Speaker 1: And then ever, yes, that's my Netflix show about high
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