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The Power Of Positivity With LennyJ. | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #154 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian.
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  We've podcast. Today's guest is the
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  singer-songwriter, hailing, all the way from Los Angeles in the
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  USA. His name is Lenny.
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  Jay. Welcome to the show.
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  How you doing? Good.
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  Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to have you.
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  I'm already just thrown off because I realized my camera
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  angle is normally over here. Now, it's here.
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  So it's everything's different but I don't know.
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  I'm entering a new phase of the podcast right now.
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  I've as a the time of releasing this, I will have already gone
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  over. 50 episodes which is mind-blowing and I have a guest
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  today. Thank you.
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  I have a guest in you that one of the things you said of
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  country camera, which I want to just jump straight into because
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  you sort of caught me at a time where the podcast is, Shifting
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  more to me focusing on like life stories because when I first
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  started doing this podcast, you know, I would just interview
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  people and just, you know, try and get a just a good
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  conversation out of them. It but now I'm less focused on
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  like just trying to find like oh an actor or a musician or
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  whatever like it's more like do you have a story?
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  Everyone has a story to share. Everyone has stories from their
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  lives and your story. And again, I've done my research
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  on you, but I've kept it light on purpose because I like to
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  learn about people as I do the show, but a big theme with
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  everything that you do is positivity the power of
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  positivity. So let's start there.
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  Where Yeah, there's this positivity emanate from for you.
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  I think it started when maybe when I was a teenager and I
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  realized, I think I caught on how stressful life life was very
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  early on. Like, I've witnessed people,
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  whether it's my surroundings of, like family or even friends, and
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  I saw a lot of people were, like, they get caught up in life
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  when, you know, you sorry, leaving your teens, you know.
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  As I continue to make music in my life.
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  I know this everyone was making music about what they wanted to
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  be or when they reached riches or this success point.
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  And I'll I just started thinking as I was doing my career, like
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  everyone singing about that or look like love and I was like,
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  what about, you know, the journey like a lot of people on
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  this journey and I feel like It's the beginning or the end
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  and sometimes they sing about the journey afterwards and I was
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  like, well, I'm on this journey and it'll always be a journey,
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  even when your reach success or whatever it is.
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  You're trying to accomplish and I just saw it that angle is
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  something needed right now. In music.
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  I think there is a void missing in music and it's that honesty
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  and that you know, you're speaking for anyone just Working
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  hard or going through it. And I think that lift me up
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  Spirit needs to be passed around a little more.
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  I feel like we're all competing and there's enough room at the
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  top for all of us. There's enough money in the
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  world. So people aren't starving.
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  There's enough clothes to put on people's backs, you know, so
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  that's where that came from. I just, I'm just tired of the
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  world. Honestly.
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  It's such a sad place, like I'm really not happy with it.
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  Yeah, I get that. I get that.
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  I gave you a coming from. I think.
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  Is it? Because of, how would he know
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  you said in your teen? So what were you like?
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  Early 20s 23? Something.
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  I'm actually 31. No, you're not.
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  Yeah, yo to the me. What is this?
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  Look at this guy? I have a few more years of
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  knowledge than you not old dude. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah, so I'm 31.
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  Yeah. Wow, just of congratulation.
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  Thank you know guess it's the LA Live.
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  Yeah, what's this? Originally from New York City,
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  my whole life. The secret is I think not what
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  you do, but you don't do and I don't actually drink alcohol.
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  I don't do drugs never have I think things simple as that I
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  exercise and you know, like things like that I think
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  contribute to it, also my parents.
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  It looks super young. So there's that.
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  Yeah, but yeah, just exercise, drink your water and everything
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  in moderation. If you do drink liquor, you
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  know, be responsible and stay away from hard drugs.
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  So other than, you know, obvious like Fitness and stuff.
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  What prompted your decision to sort of avoid those things
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  because a lot of the time, you know, when you're in your teens,
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  you might try all these things and stuff.
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  But it's a big decision. You know, I mean, it's
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  everywhere, everywhere you go. Yeah, even if you're just like
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  hanging out with your friends like somewhere, that's not even
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  necessarily associated with our collars.
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  Like, for example, give you an example, like there's a, there's
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  an arcade. There's a few arcade bars where
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  I live right with retro games. So cool.
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  Right? Love it.
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  Right, but they say they have bars as well.
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  They serve drinks and it's kind of K, then that would like
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  everywhere you go has a bar has access to these things.
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  So like I guess My question is like, a sort of a two-part
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  thing. Like why are you not interested
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  in doing those things and to like, how did you avoid that?
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  And as I just want to kind of focus on that a little bit.
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  Yeah, it's a mix of things. It's my parents were always
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  watching me like making sure I didn't do things like that.
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  Which it, which is a good thing. Yeah.
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  Okay. Drinking underage.
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  And I didn't which I mean they did a great job and I do think
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  it was kind of like a Tactic to from my parents.
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  And if you drink like well, you know, like what was it mean
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  girls, if you have sex, you got pregnant and died, you know,
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  like it was it felt like that growing up, you know, but I
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  wasn't like, you know, I wasn't like, you have to be no, so to
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  the point growing up, my parents were rockers.
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  They showed me all the music. I like, the reason, my music
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  sounds like it does is from AllMusic from my parents.
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  So they weren't strict in a sense, you know.
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  Oh, like, I couldn't watch TV. Like, I watch cartoons.
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  I was playing video games with them, but it was just like that
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  stuff. They were very weary of who I
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  hung out with and stuff and I think because of like, my father
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  had a rough upbringing until he made it out himself and, you
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  know, established, family and himself.
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  And like I would imagine his environment, the people that he
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  tells me about, like they weren't great people.
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  And I imagine even witnessing that first hand made him.
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  Protective of me, making sure I didn't go around some of the
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  people he was around only because but he was also in that
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  situation. I wasn't when I was growing up
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  but I think you know, it gets stuck in your head, the things
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  you go through. So I believe he was just super
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  protective and that's how I stay the way.
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  So when it started being presented to me I was like I can
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  die from this, you know, but then part of me was like, you
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  know what, I see a lot of people do this stuff, and it doesn't
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  turn out great in the long run. And then I really, and then the
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  second part of it was, when I was old enough.
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  I I did try some drinks and, like, it really makes my stomach
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  hurt instantly and like, I feel all sad and like, yeah, want
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  this stuff, like that's how I feel like I I've never Ben
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  blackout drunk. I've never liked stumbled
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  anywhere. Like, I'm think I'm scared to
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  get to that level. I also have a serious amount of
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  anxiety, and I think that is a part of it because I definitely
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  have like medical anxiety. Like, I've been tired the last
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  two days and like, which is normal.
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  And I'm like, what's wrong with me?
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  Am I sick? Do I need to go to hospital?
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  And then I'm like, I went to bed at 4 a.m.
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  Two nights in a row and woke up at 8, of course.
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  I'm tired, you know, so I think it's a mix of those things that
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  led me to stray away from it, which isn't a bad thing, you
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  know? No, not at all.
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  I think, the reason I asked is just out of curiosity.
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  I think, like, as I said before, like everywhere you go, these
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  things are available and not just alcohol as well.
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  But like, you look at like the popularity of assilex CBD
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  products and vnz are in Los Angeles.
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  Right, he's every like and and these things go through like
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  Trends and stuff and they do right?
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  And I think as you get older you start realizing these the
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  problems with these things too, like for instance.
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  I was in the store the other day and I was just grabbing myself a
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  couple of snacks and I thought about buying myself a drink and
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  then I just kind of looked at it and I was like, I could get that
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  or I could just get some like ginger beer, which is not
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  alcoholic. But why?
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  By the way, why do they call it? Ginger beer when it's, I don't
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  know. That doesn't make sense to me.
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  There must be a term for the word beer from a while ago, that
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  maybe being and then someone was like, What if we could get drunk
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  off, you know, isn't that how every invention goes?
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  What if we do this to it? I don't know.
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  My guests maybe. But yeah, the whole thought
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  process went through my head is like I could spend that money
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  and feel that maybe a bit groggy tomorrow or I could just get the
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  snack with this soft drink and not feel that way.
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  And then I opted to do that and I was like, oh, okay, and I
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  don't know, I get the same as you like most of the time
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  drinking's. Okay, but sometimes you do get
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  those moments where you just feel like sad, it doesn't how
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  good the day is. Yeah, right.
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  That sounds so, but yeah. I don't know.
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  I, I think I have a very sensitive stomach to, yeah, it
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  only accepts compliments. Now, like, in the morning, I
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  found myself like a little nauseous, sometimes.
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  I wonder why. And then like, I don't know.
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  I think it's just who I am. Because pretty healthy.
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  I go to the doctor. Check on myself.
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  Really paranoid about my health. That's good.
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  It's just good thing to be paranoid about.
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  Yeah, so, Yeah, I think those things are the factors that led
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  me, you know, and if you do drink, you know, just be
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  responsible like you really do. Like it says it on the bottle.
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  There is a reason. It says it.
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  There are you know instructions on how to drink like you gotta
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  be careful. You could really hurt yourself.
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  The stuff is poison soon as you take a sip you're putting poison
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  in you. That's that's the funny thing
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  about. Yeah.
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  I don't worry guys this podcast won't just be about alcohol, but
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  this is ridiculous to this topic and I I often forget that
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  sometimes I'm just like, oh, I feel I feel ill.
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  I feel terrible. And it's like, well, yeah, dude,
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  it's poison. Like, it's to most people drink
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  to they're gonna be like, I'm gonna turn this up.
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  This is enough negativity from like, yeah.
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  It's about rock and roll. We're gonna party with
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  happiness, with me, speaking about negativity.
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  Obviously, the antithesis of negativity is positive.
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  See you see what I did there? We transitioned back, so Great,
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  but yeah, CC tricks of the trained on your Instagram.
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  The whole thing is a treasure Trove of everything you're doing
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  right now and we'll talk a little bit about the music in a
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  second. But I just I pay a lot of
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  attention to the things people say.
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  And the way they brand themselves in a part of that
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  comes from genuine curiosity and especially building an idea of
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  my guests and who they are. And the type of conversation we
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  might have but also because I'm sort of obsessed with marketing.
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  In advertising because it might Brown up, bring it.
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  Bring it. What?
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  I studied. Etc.
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  So marketing background. Anyway, one of the things that
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  you said, which I don't know if it's a throwaway comment or if
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  it was part of your ethos on music and what you're trying to
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  achieve with it, but I thought was very interesting.
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  You said, you want to bring back that old.
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  Kind of Hollywood, heartthrob Vibe and just to put this into
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  perspective. So this guy is built like it's
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  got air. ABS right.
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  So it looks fantastic and the hot but that nobody know,
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  serious note. The whole thing is like a
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  there's a lot of places. There's a lot of shots from your
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  most recent music video and it's a very like sunshine in their la
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  la. Happy Vibe quite heavy music.
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  I wasn't expecting it when I when I went and checked out.
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  Okay. Those are I was expecting like a
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  pop. Damn Foreman.
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  Has this like this heavy rock songs?
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  Play. Nice nice, but let's speak a
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  little About that. Like I suppose it's going to
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  again, be a two-part question. What do you mean when you say
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  bring back the kind of old Hollywood heartthrob thing?
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  And also, let's talk about, you know, what you're trying to do
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  with this music right now. Like what's the message?
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  Yeah. So the mean know it's funny
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  because here in LA and you know all over the US people call me
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  pop not rock at all. Oh far this right.
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  And I'm like, I'm a rock artists like and like I mean, I love
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  rock music. I know it's, you know, on the
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  mainstream side bomb playing guitar, riff in some solos, but
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  they're like your pop and I'm like that.
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  I'm like, that's fine. I mean, that's where you make a
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  lot of money, you know, I'm a bit.
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  But, um, so the sound and everything I'll go there first
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  before the looks. It's funny why I started doing
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  the heartthrob thing. It's really funny.
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  So anyway, the sound is very like, Stadium music.
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  I want you to sing along. You know, I want you to sing the
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  na na na nananana, you know, when you sing those.
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  So so woke up just now. So my voice is weird.
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  It's also 9 a.m. And literally you're like, you
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  ready to join and I was laying in bed in my life and I was
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  like, yeah, Nikki. Yeah.
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  It's so like I was I wanted to bring back that like full sing
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  along like Stadium music. Like there.
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  Aren't many artists here in America filling stadiums
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  anymore. I'm not talking about clubs or
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  Arenas. I'm talking about stadiums.
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  80,000 people like big Arenas, like big stadiums.
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  There's a few artists student. Taylor Swift, did it.
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  I believe Ed Sheeran is doing it, but the fact that I have to
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  think So tough to like who's playing stadiums aside from the
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  Rolling Stones, you know, all the great ones like from back in
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  the day are selling stadiums, but not many, current people are
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  even like I saw just recently like Justin Bieber in the
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  beginning of the pandemic. He was doing a stadium tour and
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  how to postpone it and I might be wrong on that but I thought
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  like, wow, he's He's just starting to do stadiums or
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  within the recent years because like he's been one of the
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  biggest pop names forever and he's doing a Rena's.
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  So I'm like, why isn't music in a stadium like Queen?
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  Like what happened at a boom? Boom like that.
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  Huge like we're together like we are going to stand together and
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  like, chance something like, and I don't know.
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  So I love that type of music like and so with that as well.
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  Switching over the what music is now.
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  I feel like music a low calm lately, very compact, very even
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  quiet in Dynamics, which is okay.
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  There's all different types of music and there are loud.
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  You took it out section style as well.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah, and I thought music has this like calm sound and very
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  Club sound. And also there are anthems there
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  are Arena and Stadium people, there are, you know, I'm not the
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  only one doing. Arena sound or Stadium sound but
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  like it is rare. And I wanted music to be loud
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  again. And not necessarily like loud
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  rock and roll in your Facebook like sing along.
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  Like, I'm excited to go to this show because I'm going to sing
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  with my friends and family like like that.
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  And I felt like that was different and artists, like
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  Bryan Adams. Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, they've
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  always inspired me. They're catchy.
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  Like they you sing along. And You're smiling.
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  You're singing about you know, the way love was sung about from
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  Bon Jovi Because you were born to be my baby and baby.
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  I was made to be your man. Like, that's cool.
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  Like now people are singing like a oh girl.
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  I got this. You want it?
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  And she's like, yeah. And I'm like, oh no.
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  Like this is shallow and don't get me wrong.
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  I use songs. Are you know, you sad?
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  Are you saying that's not deep? Lenny are you saying that's not
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  you know, I mean, You know, what?
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  Is that singing about their life?
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  Is that a deep level in? Your deepest, inner most
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  Consciousness in the moment? It might but the point I'm
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  saying is not to knock anything because I really do.
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  Love all types of music. You could hear in my music like
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  I'll even like the way I sing a solo rappy in times of do a lot
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  of fast lyrics and but I felt like everything's a little
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  shallow and about cloud and your staff.
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  Is and I'm like, where's the honesty?
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  Where's the journey? Where's after the journey when
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  you make it like reminiscing about what you went through and
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  actually like artists like Drake do a good job on that but I just
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  feel like there was this void missing and everything was very
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  I don't mean to say superficial in the bad way, but it was very
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  much about what you acquired and still is and who you are and
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  like your followers this and that and I want to hear what
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  people are saying. Saying, you know, like why do
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  you want to change the world for the better?
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  Okay, you have success. I'm happy for you.
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  We all could find success. That's amazing.
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  But like what could we do to further the world like to
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  further ourselves like in Hollywood here, especially like,
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  a lot of people like to party, it drives me nuts.
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  It really does no fun. No, like I don't mind having a
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  good time and going out but like Will really make it a point like
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  we're going to hang out today and do nothing and like know
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  it's great. It's okay to like relax and rest
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  but like the focus is like partying a lot.
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  Like that's the mean when you go out and have a meeting, people
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  want to buy you drinks to settle business and I'm like, hmm.
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  How about a handshake? And we go start business and I
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  know it's like tradition. I have a drink or something.
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  But like I don't know. I want to bring it back to life.
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  Like the music and like not to sound like cliche, but like it's
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  about the music man. Like I want people to know like,
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  oh, this is a great song who's singing.
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  Oh, Lenny, Jay is. Oh, who produce it?
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  Oh, he did. Who engineered it?
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  Oh, he did. Who's playing the guitars?
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  Oh, he has, who's playing the drums?
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  That's actually Lenny. 20, but what about that basis?
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  Well, you're going to be shocked to hear but it's Lenny Jay as
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  well. Oh, wow.
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  Who's In the backup vocals, I'll give you three guesses.
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  Actually, I'm gonna give you two.
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  And so, you know, like I want to show like all this that guitar
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  right there may sitting in this spot.
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  This is where all those songs are made like right here, like
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  what you're hearing. Everything.
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  I ate all those videos right here and like there's no this is
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  the studio. Like it's my room.
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  Like I have clients. I do music full-time.
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  I'm I record people all around the world, I travel for it.
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  They come here and all of my room, you know, I want to
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  upgrade to, you know, my own Studio One day, but pursuing an
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  artist life with the sound of music.
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  Like I was saying the heartthrob part, now bringing in the
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  background, so Never was one to really post sex appeal.
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  Things wasn't posted a photo of me in this mask in a video.
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  I was in for somebody. Great artist named Constance
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  Antoinette. I produce the song for her
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  helped her, write it. I was in the video too.
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  Now listen like this jacket that had my like shirt open and like
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  you could see my abs and I posted it.
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  And I got hundreds of follows. Yeah, and I was like well and
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  then I posted that heartthrob one, right?
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  And I received about five or six hundred follows in four days and
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  I was like my music video for life of a runaway, you know, I
• 22:03
  grew about 900 followers in a month.
• 22:06
  And the reason I'm keeping track of this everybody.
• 22:09
  I don't care if I have million. 42 million for who?
• 22:12
  I am. It helps me get gigs.
• 22:14
  The more followers. You have, the more gigs you get,
• 22:17
  the more things you could show up to, even in Hollywood here.
• 22:20
  There are clubs that make you show your followers.
• 22:23
  And if you don't have like 10,000, you can't get in.
• 22:26
  Really? Yeah, I was told about this many
• 22:29
  times. Blow it back up a second.
• 22:31
  Do you mean like general admission?
• 22:32
  So I just want to go to this particular e.
• 22:35
  Yes. I've been told about this.
• 22:36
  If you are lying to me that's horrible, but But I've been told
• 22:41
  this by multiple people that's not or maybe their exclusive
• 22:47
  parties and you try to show up in your like now you need
• 22:50
  10,000. Imagine.
• 22:51
  Imagine. Imagine a party.
• 22:57
  Let's say you got like an invite from a friend or a friend of a
• 22:59
  friend or maybe you just rock up to the part and you just you
• 23:02
  know, what know someone then the guy on the door, the person of
• 23:06
  the doors like I need to see how many followers you have on
• 23:09
  Instagram. Show me your Instagram.
• 23:11
  Angela. That's I got like 500 and I like
• 23:14
  you don't have enough viewers also follow.
• 23:17
  I know how I know. I don't enjoy that.
• 23:20
  But anyway, so I was, you know, in music projects a bunch
• 23:28
  throughout at the end of college.
• 23:31
  So when I was like, 23 2012 know, I was 22 graduating.
• 23:36
  I was About to graduate and I joined the music project that I
• 23:43
  did for a bit. We found good success, working
• 23:46
  hard, very similar branding, you know, I was doing the audio with
• 23:50
  them. So, you know similar like what I
• 23:52
  was doing we're just a band instead and I moved out here to
• 23:57
  La so we then continue but we after like five or six years.
• 24:06
  The our Instagram wasn't too big like we had like maybe five,
• 24:10
  maybe six thousand followers and we toured the country did Warped
• 24:13
  Tour. I was on the radio, you know all
• 24:15
  the whole nine yards. But then I as Lenny, Jay only
• 24:21
  had let's say 1200 followers after 56 years.
• 24:25
  That's not a huge growth. And then I was doing music full
• 24:30
  time. It was cool.
• 24:31
  You know, I'm grateful for that, you know, I do a full time now,
• 24:34
  but I release life of a runaway and I went from 1515 10 to 24 10
• 24:42
  in a month. You know, if I would have went
• 24:46
  to 3000, I would have doubled. The people watching me.
• 24:51
  When you think of it like that. It's like, wait a minute in one
• 24:56
  month. I just did what six years did.
• 24:59
  And then after that Tommy I grew even more and I'm almost at
• 25:06
  three thousand, you know. Now Plus in like, two, three
• 25:09
  months from 1500, which means I am doubling.
• 25:14
  My fanbase. Like that's a lot of people like
• 25:17
  1,500 more people, you know, so the growth I keep track of it
• 25:23
  like that because the more people I have the bigger the
• 25:25
  shows, you know, the better this more fun more stadiums, we felt.
• 25:30
  So I keep track of it like that and again the growth leading
• 25:33
  back to the heart throb thing. There's a few reasons for this
• 25:38
  one. I've never seen such exponential
• 25:41
  growth if my page until I showed a few ads.
• 25:47
  Yeah, and I kind of didn't want to do that ever.
• 25:51
  I was kind of anti that because I'm I was like People only see
• 25:57
  you for that. And then few people told me,
• 26:01
  they were like, get the people in the seats.
• 26:06
  Yeah, they'll listen to you. Like, if they get drawn to you
• 26:10
  they will then listen to you. Even if they gotta look at your
• 26:13
  abs before. They hear what you say, you're
• 26:15
  going to get their attention and you got them and use it to your
• 26:21
  advantage. Like, you're young still.
• 26:23
  Like you look good. Like That's not forever, you
• 26:27
  know, like use it, you know, it and I was like, you know what,
• 26:32
  let me post that heartthrob thing and my roommate even who
• 26:36
  directs my videos, she directed Tommy Pickles.
• 26:39
  She was like one day, I was wearing the outfit, one of the
• 26:42
  outfits and she was like, okay, 90s heartthrob coming back, Boy,
• 26:46
  Meets World. And I was like, wait a minute.
• 26:50
  That's been missing for so long, everyone.
• 26:53
  So like different-looking now, it's almost like the fashion is
• 26:57
  to not look good. Like, they look very messy.
• 27:00
  A lot of people a lot, very disheveled looking and it's
• 27:04
  almost there, proud to be sad, and upset.
• 27:08
  And with all of that. I'm like, no, there's nothing
• 27:14
  wrong with expressing, how you feel, but they're pushing like
• 27:20
  pill. Usage.
• 27:21
  They're saying like, that's how you get better.
• 27:23
  Like there are songs. I hear that people are in
• 27:26
  saying, like, she came over. I pour the drink.
• 27:29
  They're like, she came over. I spilled a eight ball on the
• 27:33
  couch. I was like, what?
• 27:35
  Like, that's your singing like comfortably now and music about
• 27:41
  like hard drugs, and I'm like, this is uncomfortable, and there
• 27:46
  are people singing about it who are like 16 on the radio and 17.
• 27:50
  Dean and I'm just like, you know what, you know, it's like this
• 27:54
  is scary. Speaking to them.
• 27:56
  What's even crazier and this links back to what you were
• 27:59
  saying. About the heartthrob thing and
• 28:01
  sort of Innocence Lost. One big thing about you and what
• 28:05
  you're pushing right now with that, like when I saw that, I'll
• 28:08
  be honest. I didn't really see like it as a
• 28:10
  sexual thing. I kind of more saw it as like
• 28:15
  and this speaks to. So anyone go if for those
• 28:19
  listening to the podcast, Can't see the visuals.
• 28:22
  Go check out Lenny Jay on Instagram and you'll get to see
• 28:24
  kind of like an idea of what I'm talking about here.
• 28:27
  It's like imagine a guy looking really young.
• 28:30
  You don't look your age like, oh my God, but a guy, you know,
• 28:36
  living his life dancing in this in the Summer Sunshine, La.
• 28:40
  It's that typical vibe that you would have seen in years
• 28:44
  combined that Vibe still exists some extent.
• 28:47
  But like that used to be really prevalent in, say, in the 90s.
• 28:50
  Like boy bands, and stuff like that.
• 28:52
  Yeah, and and there was a degree.
• 28:53
  I don't get me wrong, boy bands, would sing about sex and stuff
• 28:56
  like that. But yeah, it was a lot of it was
• 28:58
  like, tongue-in-cheek. It was very it was and there was
• 29:00
  a lot more innocence and it was a lot more like girl, come over
• 29:04
  your house or take your hand that kind of like, you know,
• 29:07
  there's a lot more like that. And speaking to that within the
• 29:12
  space of ten years in the 2000s. They were already singing about
• 29:17
  some of the stuff that you're talking about.
• 29:18
  Now. There's like a hard It kind of
• 29:21
  turn to like from like I don't know how to put it like.
• 29:27
  Okay. I saw, I saw I mean, I swear, I
• 29:30
  mean that said, hey, Millennials have a you stop quoting
• 29:33
  SpongeBob and do cocaine already signed gen Z and I was like, and
• 29:39
  I had the, you know, like millions of likes and gen Z
• 29:41
  commenting like. Yeah, come on grow up or and I
• 29:44
  was like, guys, yeah, like there are artists like juice world who
• 29:53
  I very much enjoy, but he's singing We don't even make it to
• 29:57
  27. Like we don't even make it to 21
• 29:59
  now and like people are quoting that like, it's cool and I'm
• 30:03
  like, it's not cool. Like these guys aren't drugs.
• 30:06
  They need help. Like I'm not gonna sit here and
• 30:10
  say if you're on drugs, you're a loser.
• 30:12
  No, you people need help. I want to help people.
• 30:15
  That's what my brand is about. My brand, isn't to say.
• 30:18
  Ignore those people. It's saying like they're crying
• 30:22
  out for help in a way to and if it's all a know that do drugs
• 30:26
  and Stuff that's not good. They need people around them
• 30:29
  trying to help them and I'm sure those those teams are, you know,
• 30:34
  but then you got like these labels and stuff that are making
• 30:37
  like 16 and 17 year olds sing about this stuff and like, I
• 30:42
  don't know why it bothers me so much.
• 30:45
  Um, I mean this thing again like okay.
• 30:51
  Yeah, you mentioned SpongeBob was an example, right?
• 30:53
  Kids TV show but we all grew up with that.
• 30:56
  We're about the same age. And you know, that was something
• 30:59
  that what we cherished a lot of those things like whenever I
• 31:02
  have live streams, you know, Tick-Tock and stuff and we
• 31:06
  started being nostalgic. I realized like just how many
• 31:10
  kids TV shows and animated shows we watch back then and how they
• 31:14
  had a profound impact on us from every sense.
• 31:16
  Not just like because they were cartoons but like, culturally
• 31:21
  speaking. So if I will say if I can I mean
• 31:27
  look, you're wearing a Halo, a seizure.
• 31:28
  For example. Yeah, just stuff the yeah right
• 31:30
  there. And my last single was Tommy
• 31:32
  Pickles. It's called right?
• 31:34
  But the lyrics have nothing to do with the Rugrats.
• 31:37
  The point of it was because Tommy was a leader.
• 31:40
  There's an episode where the ball goes over the fence.
• 31:43
  I think it might be the first episode.
• 31:44
  I'm not even sure. And they're like, Tommy, no
• 31:48
  one's gone over the fence and he he said, well, someone has to,
• 31:52
  It's Gonna be Me. I got the ball and they're like,
• 31:55
  no, and he's like a baby's got Do a little baby's got do and
• 31:58
  like that mindset. To hear that young.
• 32:01
  I think it's a lot more powerful than we knew and then also he's
• 32:04
  always making sure. Everyone's okay.
• 32:06
  Yeah. And when you know Angelica's
• 32:10
  mean he'll try to figure out why and then still include her he
• 32:14
  includes the bully at the end. Always like he's the leader in
• 32:18
  the song's called Tommy Pickles because we I kind of interpreted
• 32:24
  it and how eyes I saw we could as well was there is this
• 32:30
  protagonist? And maybe he was an infant, but
• 32:35
  he was showing us bravery leadership, how the key people
• 32:40
  in order because film Lil were always butting heads Chucky was
• 32:43
  very nervous. Angelica was a bully.
• 32:46
  Susie came over now, and then, and then he got a little
• 32:49
  brother. He had to take care of and then
• 32:51
  Chucky and Kimmy because, you know, Chucky's father was a
• 32:56
  Father. And then even fill and Lil's mom
• 32:59
  was, you know, you know, the shirt she wore and she came out
• 33:04
  in the recent shows of reboot. She's out officially and
• 33:09
  everything and she's separated from Howard.
• 33:11
  I believe the husband's name was like, these are huge things that
• 33:16
  was in a show that came out in like 1991.
• 33:19
  And I wasn't watching in 91 because I was literally just
• 33:24
  being born to but like The thing about that was just so like, I
• 33:29
  think, maybe maybe I'm looking into it too much.
• 33:32
  But what I got out of it, it inspires me.
• 33:36
  And that's it. Pushed the like, what that songs
• 33:40
  about that song literally is about?
• 33:42
  I said, I've been out on my own, I've been miles from home, but
• 33:46
  it's worked itself out quite all right.
• 33:48
  I've been down in the streets, almost gave up on my dreams, but
• 33:51
  instead, I drove on straight through the night.
• 33:53
  You can't break my stride. And I talked about, you know.
• 33:56
  Although I stood a chance against the consequences of the
• 33:59
  actions of my own hands. But now I have a plan together.
• 34:03
  We could lift each other because we all deserve a chance and I
• 34:07
  swear that we'll all make it this could and that's to me the
• 34:11
  Tommy mindset and the video is about me getting to Hollywood.
• 34:15
  I'm excited looking around because I'm from New York City.
• 34:18
  I just moved here and I'm like wow, and then an agent comes up
• 34:25
  to me and I'm Tommy and then that was Angelica they agent.
• 34:29
  He was blond and he brings me a contract.
• 34:32
  I could make you a star, the money, the girls, the house.
• 34:35
  And I'm like, I don't know. And then street performers come
• 34:39
  up to me Phil and Lil there dressed like that and they go to
• 34:42
  give me money. I'm like nah, that's okay
• 34:44
  because it's not about that. I'm performing there smiling.
• 34:48
  I'm happy and then the agents like here's all this.
• 34:51
  I'm like nah, let me guess. Here then I see Susie on the
• 34:54
  street singing and she looks down because she's a street
• 34:57
  performer. So I join in with her and hand
• 34:59
  her money. Instead.
• 35:01
  She's happy after that. And then I find Chucky we do a
• 35:04
  dance together. We actually do the perfect cast
• 35:07
  from A Goofy Movie and you know, it's just bringing everyone up
• 35:12
  and lifting them and the Agents chasing me throughout this whole
• 35:15
  video and jelica and they catch me and we have a showdown like
• 35:19
  Tommy does in the playground, but he In it like a western duel
• 35:24
  because they're imagining it, you know on the playground and
• 35:26
  their imagination is great. And so we have this duel on the
• 35:30
  playground at the end and I destroy his contract by using a
• 35:35
  plastic screw driver. Like, you know, Tommy does,
• 35:38
  which is right here, still have it convenient.
• 35:40
  All my other guys. It's all around my room.
• 35:43
  And so, yeah, it was just a nice tip to the Rugrats, a lot of the
• 35:49
  scenes from them, but the songs really about being a leader.
• 35:52
  And you know, including everyone making sure you know, things are
• 35:58
  okay. And you know, you can't stop all
• 36:00
  the evil in the world, but you could do your part to be a
• 36:03
  leader and make sure everyone is included and no one's hurt and
• 36:08
  you don't have to pull someone down to get ahead, you know, and
• 36:11
  that's what a lot of agents and they you know, labels do and I'm
• 36:15
  not all labels are bad, not all agents are bad.
• 36:18
  But there there's a lot of scary things in this industry and I
• 36:22
  think You know that I know that we all know it and that's what
• 36:25
  Tommy was about and that youthful spirit is meant to keep
• 36:31
  you smiling and let you know. Like that's who we are and what
• 36:35
  really changed as we got older. Why did we stop being youthful?
• 36:40
  What's the difference between maturing, you know, like why did
• 36:45
  why does maturing mean like stop laughing and smiling and looking
• 36:50
  young? Why do we have to look?
• 36:52
  They're why do we like, we're all gonna grow old.
• 36:56
  I'm not saying like, you know, like we're stopping aging, but
• 37:00
  which would be nice. But why, why are we pushing like
• 37:04
  these young sixteen-year-old so labels?
• 37:07
  Like, why are you telling them or approving?
• 37:10
  Their songs about them getting drunk, like, they're 16.
• 37:14
  Like, how does this work? How are we in America playing
• 37:18
  that when it's illegal in America?
• 37:20
  It's a drink until you're 21. How is it legal?
• 37:22
  All to promote underage drinking but we're not allowed to do it.
• 37:26
  Like it's weird, you know, like and maybe again, I feel like I
• 37:30
  think too much into things and people like you're a party
• 37:32
  pooper, you own drink with. And I'm like, yo, listen, I was
• 37:37
  just have a good time. I'm seeing artists died at 20 at
• 37:40
  18 at 21. I don't think that's how cool
• 37:45
  you know. I'm upset because some of these
• 37:47
  artists I really like they're ours juice World passed away, Lo
• 37:51
  P passed away. I like their music a lot.
• 37:55
  And now I well they always release new music, but I'm not
• 38:00
  going to get new music technically from them like it's
• 38:04
  done. I don't get to see them ever.
• 38:07
  Like that's sad because there were singing about how sad they
• 38:10
  were and how much drugs they were on and I'm sure people are
• 38:13
  trying to help them but other artists are continuing that
• 38:17
  Trend. It is a trend right now like to
• 38:20
  do drugs. Like it's I don't know how it is
• 38:22
  by you, but in America It's very upsetting.
• 38:27
  You know, I see young people. They're young artists.
• 38:30
  I've worked with who are 15 and they would talk to me about, you
• 38:36
  know, when they're not recording about.
• 38:38
  I broke up with this person. We were doing drugs together, or
• 38:42
  like, we were so drunk and I'm like, wait, wait.
• 38:46
  Mmm, you're 14. You just turned 15.
• 38:48
  I know, you know, depends who you are like when you experience
• 38:53
  those things, you know. No, life is different for
• 38:55
  everyone, but they were like, so proud of it and saying it in
• 39:01
  front of their parents. The parents were not like
• 39:04
  reprimanding them and in my head I'm like you have a
• 39:08
  fifteen-year-old here saying they're smoking a lot of weed
• 39:12
  and that's why their voice is hoarse right now.
• 39:14
  And you're paying for this recording session and you're 14
• 39:18
  15, year-old daughter. Telling you about all the weed.
• 39:23
  She smoked. With their friends and how much
• 39:25
  more she smoking and all these drinks.
• 39:27
  She's drinking and you're just okay with it.
• 39:32
  If I ever did that, when I was 14 or 15, my parents were like,
• 39:36
  yeah, you want a drink, you're gonna work out the pub.
• 39:39
  Now you're gonna you know, like you're gonna you want to do
• 39:42
  this? Watch what you're getting
• 39:44
  yourself into and like that's a confusing like not.
• 39:49
  I mean the thing confusing is Why weren't the parents?
• 39:54
  Like you shouldn't be doing that?
• 39:58
  They literally were okay with it.
• 40:03
  And to me there's a lack of like responsibility in that and also
• 40:11
  you as an artist to your singing other people to other people,
• 40:15
  your age, and your like these people are like promoting this
• 40:19
  behavior and I don't want to sound like like a old-school
• 40:24
  parent. Like don't go out, don't do
• 40:25
  this. Don't vomit.
• 40:27
  This is a fifteen-year-old telling you, they're doing drugs
• 40:30
  and getting drunk. Unk and they're going the
• 40:33
  multiple guy's house. Like they're talking about this
• 40:36
  to you. Should your 14-year
• 40:39
  fifteen-year-old be doing that all the time.
• 40:41
  Like getting picked up by like 18 year.
• 40:43
  Olds seniors in high school, like isn't there a lot?
• 40:47
  Not adding up here but it's being allowed and that's not
• 40:51
  okay. There's a lot of things in the
• 40:52
  industry not just drugs, but people being Predators like you
• 40:57
  shouldn't let your 15 year old. Go out with an 18 year old.
• 41:01
  That like, you know, everyone circumstance is different, there
• 41:06
  might be reasons for things. I'm not condemning everyone who
• 41:11
  does these things. We all are human.
• 41:13
  We are all flawed things happen. Our environments are different,
• 41:17
  but there's a lot of people getting hurt right now and I
• 41:21
  want to help relieve that a bit or less in it because we can
• 41:27
  lift each other. It doesn't have to be a doom
• 41:30
  store. Sorry, that's what a lot of the
• 41:32
  brands are now, like we are sad, we are broken and maybe we are,
• 41:39
  but it doesn't mean you have to make other people broken.
• 41:44
  And again, we can express ourselves and say that.
• 41:47
  Like, we can express these things.
• 41:49
  We all have a right to speak up about our lives, but I want to
• 41:55
  help people. I want others to be more helpful
• 41:59
  and not just consume. Music from these people like
• 42:01
  yeah, we're gonna party them like they do.
• 42:05
  How about like wow, they went through a lot.
• 42:07
  I know friends going through this.
• 42:09
  Let's help each other and that's what I want to see more.
• 42:17
  Have you met any other artists or other artists particular,
• 42:22
  autistic spy, you that are sort of trying to do the same thing.
• 42:26
  Like where does this emanate from as far as inspiration?
• 42:29
  And I feel a little lonely with this and I deemed you about it
• 42:35
  recently and I was like, I feel like it's hard to find others
• 42:42
  who end people who hear about my brand and what I do, they're
• 42:46
  like, yes. Like this, I don't hear this.
• 42:49
  This is needed. You're onto something.
• 42:52
  Just don't stop what you're doing.
• 42:53
  Like what you're saying? Just keep doing.
• 42:55
  Like it's different. It's working.
• 42:58
  I don't see a lot of people being like positive like that or
• 43:03
  if they are positive. It's like you know, like, Or
• 43:09
  like Panic at the Disco. Hey Ma.
• 43:10
  Look, I made it great, love that song.
• 43:14
  Great message. One of the few songs.
• 43:16
  I heard like, hey Ma. Look, I made it at school.
• 43:18
  Like I was like, wow, that's super inspiring.
• 43:21
  Like and I was like, one of the few that I heard or know not
• 43:27
  every song is about Doom, you know, but the whole together we
• 43:32
  could lift each other. Like I say, I think it is hard
• 43:35
  to find. I don't know if I found many
• 43:38
  like People like that. Like in the 80s there were like,
• 43:44
  but even they were parting a bit much in the 80s, but there's
• 43:49
  nothing wrong with partying. I like going to parties.
• 43:51
  I do enjoy them. I go them.
• 43:53
  I enjoy going to clubs and stuff.
• 43:55
  I'm just not, you know doing a bunch of hard drugs in the
• 43:59
  bathroom. And I think that's okay.
• 44:02
  It's a big fat. I mean, obviously, and it is.
• 44:03
  Okay. Yeah, and over the decades.
• 44:07
  Here's the interesting thing. I've noticed right, over the
• 44:10
  decades, you hear the stories but 60s, 70s, 80s 90s, Etc.
• 44:14
  And also you look at the music was created in that time.
• 44:16
  What they were talking about. You're always gonna get people
• 44:19
  talking about the darker stuff and and everything, right?
• 44:22
  But the overall Vibe the overall positivity of those earlier
• 44:28
  decades. It's like night and day when you
• 44:32
  compare it to now and obviously you can you can track the kind
• 44:35
  of the change over the course of the decades and what was going
• 44:38
  on at the time and stuff like that is obviously a big factor
• 44:42
  as well. But I think something that's
• 44:44
  really interesting particularly with our generation growing up
• 44:48
  versus young teenagers. Now is that, you know, there
• 44:52
  was, as we spoke about earlier a lot more sort of Innocence with
• 44:59
  our Upbringing versus. There's like, we're trying to
• 45:05
  grow up fast for some. Yeah, there's no.
• 45:07
  We always were. But like now, I feel like, it's
• 45:10
  like, rocketed by like 15. They're like, I'm ready to get
• 45:14
  married and have kids. So I think if you recall, right,
• 45:17
  obviously, we were both born in the 90s.
• 45:19
  Mmm, internet was around in the ninth.
• 45:22
  Like not like how it is now, but like I didn't stop using the
• 45:27
  internet in a proper. Sense until I was like 11 12
• 45:33
  years old, am right. So there's this whole
• 45:36
  upbringing, we had of like for example, going out and playing
• 45:41
  in the Summers with other kids like riding.
• 45:44
  Oh, right until High School. Hey just there.
• 45:48
  I didn't have Facebook until I was a junior in high school.
• 45:51
  All right, when it was coming in.
• 45:53
  There was my space but like, you know, the internet was instant
• 45:58
  messenger. Hey, what time you want to go
• 46:01
  bike ride? Yeah, probably had.
• 46:03
  Yeah, we didn't have access to all these music videos and such
• 46:09
  young people have access to such a dolt things.
• 46:13
  Now. This is what I mean is
• 46:14
  successively. It's that's what no hiding it.
• 46:18
  That's and that's kind of Where the problem starts like.
• 46:22
  When I, when I look at my younger brothers, I've got four
• 46:25
  younger brothers, and they range from like 9:44, I think.
• 46:32
  And I remember when, you know, they were like, 45 years old
• 46:37
  already playing with iPads already understanding older
• 46:41
  Concepts than they should know about, and it's like, I'm
• 46:45
  thinking, like, when I was five, I was just kicking a football
• 46:48
  around in the backyard like that.
• 46:50
  I don't know. But yeah, it's like, it's scary
• 46:53
  and I want people to watch my video and be like, maybe I
• 46:56
  should go. Yeah, football.
• 46:58
  Yeah, like that's what I want. Like, and it's, my music isn't
• 47:03
  to be immature. Clearly.
• 47:05
  I'm an adult. You know, I'm working hard, but
• 47:11
  I want that Innocents to come back.
• 47:13
  What? You know, I even feel like when
• 47:15
  people go out, they think like, okay, I got plans tonight.
• 47:19
  I'll be back by Twelve because I gotta be up tomorrow.
• 47:22
  Like what happened to us, just excited for the night.
• 47:26
  Like and you didn't question. What was the second stop of the
• 47:30
  night? I have to do this.
• 47:31
  You're like I'm going to meet my friends here and then the night
• 47:34
  just went now. I feel like every time I go.
• 47:36
  Okay. It's like I have a podcast
• 47:39
  tomorrow morning. So I gotta be back here.
• 47:42
  Like, you know, I know our bodies just don't run 24/7, but
• 47:49
  I don't know. I feel like Like we have this
• 47:52
  mindset like we need to act a certain way or do a certain
• 47:55
  thing and there's a difference between being youthful and being
• 47:58
  immature, you know, like there's a huge difference.
• 48:04
  You gotta be responsible still you gotta be on top of your
• 48:07
  stuff. I'm not here playing dress up as
• 48:09
  Tommy Pickles and then I'm like, I'm going to play in the sandbox
• 48:12
  now, I'm not going to pay my bills.
• 48:14
  Yeah, like it's not that the point of my music is to like
• 48:19
  Laughs smile, I come on. Like I know life is tough.
• 48:24
  I know a lot of things are going on in the world.
• 48:26
  I know there are people hurting but how about, you know, when we
• 48:30
  come together at my shows were smiling for an hour like you
• 48:35
  could go out and help other people a big part of my brand.
• 48:39
  I'm going to start posting this. I've been I kind of make all my
• 48:44
  footage and then back it up, like have a backlog of its I'm
• 48:49
  ahead of my releases because that makes it easier.
• 48:53
  So I have a bunch of videos made and this ties to, I was
• 48:57
  listening to your volunteer, uh, pisode specifically, and I have
• 49:02
  some notes along weekend. And so first, I've never had a
• 49:06
  guest. Have notes on me.
• 49:10
  Well, they're not doing their homework.
• 49:11
  And so I volunteered to I like to donate things I do.
• 49:18
  Donate a lot of random clothes I have because some of them don't
• 49:22
  fit. I don't wear them anymore.
• 49:23
  We all have shirts in our closet that we go by and were like, I'm
• 49:27
  not gonna throw that out because I'm gonna wear that and like
• 49:30
  four years goes by and you're like, yeah, I will wear that I'm
• 49:33
  not gonna wear like you're not. So I've started making the
• 49:36
  commitment of like when I especially moved to LA.
• 49:40
  I was like, I got to clear out my stuff.
• 49:42
  I can bring everything. I was like, you know what?
• 49:44
  I'm getting rid of all my clothes.
• 49:46
  I want to be new I like Rid of everything, but I donated it and
• 49:52
  I've been making real slightly like, hey, what's up found?
• 49:56
  This extra shirt and my closet. Someone gave it to me recently.
• 50:00
  And it's too big. So it's going to cost me nothing
• 50:04
  to go down the block and drop this in the drop-off for
• 50:07
  clothes, and I feel myself going to do it.
• 50:10
  And I say, you know, volunteering isn't about filming
• 50:13
  yourself to show. You do it, but I'm showing you
• 50:15
  like, look how easy this was now.
• 50:18
  Someone's Going to have a shirt because of me.
• 50:21
  And all I did was reach over. Grab it and drove down.
• 50:25
  The block. One minute is have to corner
• 50:27
  right over here. Like, how hard is it?
• 50:30
  If half my followers, did that once a month?
• 50:34
  Or let's say, I grew to a point when I do when I grow through
• 50:38
  millions of followers, right? Say there's 20 million people
• 50:43
  following me this, half of them, only one time, donated like a
• 50:48
  cow. And the food that's 10 million
• 50:51
  cans of food little, you know, like that will feed.
• 50:56
  Wow, the Vivo. It's that simple.
• 50:58
  I think you know and you touch on a really good.
• 51:02
  I just want to throw something in the real quick.
• 51:05
  Just on this particular topic. This is a really important point
• 51:08
  when you see celebrities, you know with like loads of what
• 51:12
  will neither. When they do these kind of these
• 51:15
  drives, you know, getting their followers to donate whatever I
• 51:19
  know. I used to think this to like,
• 51:21
  I'm not whole. Why don't you just make a big
• 51:22
  donation? You got all the money bubble
• 51:24
  blah, but then I Thinking about it and thinking about what we're
• 51:27
  talking about now. Yeah, you can make those big
• 51:30
  donations and make those big gestures and everything, and
• 51:33
  that's important. But the biggest thing is being
• 51:37
  able to get your followers to, to act and, and show them.
• 51:42
  And, and, and lead, by example, you know, like, as in like, hey,
• 51:47
  I'm doing this thing. You can do this thing to look at
• 51:51
  this. Look how many people we help
• 51:52
  and, and make it like, part of Part of Life, part of just no
• 51:57
  Manatee and like affect people's behavior in a big way.
• 52:02
  And I think that speaks to what you're saying is to, it's like
• 52:08
  This should be the focus. I mean, certainly when I was
• 52:11
  volunteering that was a big thing on my mind is at first.
• 52:14
  It was like, I want to do this thing because I've never been
• 52:16
  able to do this before and I want to help people and then it
• 52:19
  just became part of life. And the only reason I stopped
• 52:22
  doing it and I plan to resume doing it in some shape or form
• 52:26
  again in the future. The only reason I stopped is
• 52:29
  because I needed more time to focus on everything that I'm
• 52:32
  doing now, and I know so I got a job as I was unemployed, so, I
• 52:37
  figured well, I'm not going to sit around doing nothing.
• 52:39
  I'm gonna look for jobs, volunteer and do all this other
• 52:43
  stuff. I'm doing right?
• 52:46
  And then obviously life changes, but there's always ways you can
• 52:48
  help. And like you say even something
• 52:51
  as small as that just donating a few things here.
• 52:53
  Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
• 52:55
  And I like that about your episode 2 and the people you
• 52:59
  interview of, like, all walks of life, doing things.
• 53:02
  It's just about life. It's not very like, You know,
• 53:06
  you are a musical artists. Like we spoke not very much
• 53:10
  about my music. We touched it here.
• 53:11
  Now, we're talking about life and positivity because that's
• 53:14
  music is really a soundtrack to everything, you know, and it's a
• 53:18
  huge part of our Lives. I think it's one of the most
• 53:21
  important things in our lives because it does make a sound
• 53:23
  track for our life. And you know, we hear music or
• 53:26
  like that reminds me of high school that reminds me of being
• 53:28
  a little kid that reminds me of you know weddings, you know,
• 53:32
  there's all different types of music, but I don't know.
• 53:37
  I feel like the in your volunteer episode.
• 53:41
  Like, why do people make those songs?
• 53:44
  You talked about like everyone has their reasons to volunteer
• 53:47
  and I like that and that's something I want to touch on.
• 53:51
  Like, you know, my reason is because I have a brother with
• 53:56
  autism and I do everything for him.
• 54:00
  I have two brothers and but the one I felt at an early age, you
• 54:04
  know, I felt this responsibility.
• 54:07
  For him. And I think that really made me
• 54:10
  grow up fast because I was thinking I got to take care of
• 54:15
  them when I'm older. So I felt you know, like I was 5
• 54:18
  years old. Okay, I got to take care of my
• 54:20
  wow, younger brother. You know, like I'm 7 years old.
• 54:24
  I'm at, you know, the Christmas fair at school, but I'm like,
• 54:27
  okay, I gotta watch my brother. Like I was thinking that as a
• 54:31
  little kid, you know, and I need to do well in school because
• 54:36
  when I get older, I got it. Take care of my brother like and
• 54:39
  my airport when when I you know, make music, my brother loves my
• 54:46
  music. I'm glad I don't just make music
• 54:49
  because he needs to like it. I am glad he likes it.
• 54:53
  I make music because I want to be able to not only fund my
• 54:57
  life, but I won't be able to take care of him to if anything.
• 55:00
  Unfortunately, ever happened to my parents or anything.
• 55:05
  He'll be my response. Only like he is now and you
• 55:09
  know, so that's like you said everyone has her reasons to
• 55:12
  volunteer and like that's, you know, my reason and I thought it
• 55:16
  was cool. You touched upon that because
• 55:17
  everyone does have a story and they don't get to tell it and I
• 55:21
  want my music. I want to be a voice for those
• 55:24
  that can't speak up. Not everyone could speak up like
• 55:26
  us, not everyone could afford the microphone like you and I
• 55:29
  have or understand how make a podcast or put out a song to
• 55:33
  express these things and someone needs to for them.
• 55:36
  They Do they? They don't know, they even do
• 55:39
  sometimes until you're like. Wow, someone else is thinking
• 55:42
  that a lot of times we feel alone and then all it takes is
• 55:46
  one artist you here and you're like, I'm not alone.
• 55:48
  There's a good chance. Someone went through the same
• 55:50
  thing. You did or a very close version
• 55:53
  of even if the scenarios insane and life, traumatizing some
• 55:59
  crazy things happen in this world like you.
• 56:01
  And I know, you know, I hope my lyrics are, you know, relate to
• 56:06
  people. And that's why you also said
• 56:08
  like you need to have conversations with people and my
• 56:13
  lyrics are very conversational. It's me just kind of like
• 56:16
  speaking my mind to you listening and to myself my first
• 56:19
  single life of a Runway was about me speaking to myself
• 56:23
  giving me lessons. I wish I was told ahead of time.
• 56:26
  You know, like when you think you're in the clear, the rain
• 56:29
  will start pouring, you know, take your time, embrace the
• 56:32
  false and keep your chin up high.
• 56:34
  You automatically will fail. If you never even try you know,
• 56:37
  it's just I wish people told me that earlier.
• 56:40
  I had a like I didn't have like an older brother.
• 56:44
  My dad was parenting me and saying go after your dreams, but
• 56:48
  it was very apparent. Like it didn't feel like, you
• 56:52
  know, a musical artist saying it, you know, it came off as
• 56:56
  parental which is okay. It was great.
• 56:59
  But then another thing you said and my bed for like kind of
• 57:02
  rushing I realized I don't have my computer charger and I'm at
• 57:06
  35 Percent. Oh, wow.
• 57:08
  Okay. It's okay.
• 57:09
  We're at 35 percent. It's we got time.
• 57:12
  But anyway, you said if you look into someone's eyes, you'll see
• 57:18
  a human being and it's true. Everyone is just a human being
• 57:22
  and I feel like my music. If they're very stoic in the
• 57:27
  face. I feel like my music will break
• 57:30
  them and I want them to feel like that positivity from my
• 57:34
  music and Even people who meet like my brother.
• 57:39
  I feel like they could be the toughest person or they could be
• 57:41
  like, the worst criminal in the world.
• 57:44
  They'll have a change of heart after they meet him.
• 57:47
  And that's kind of what I want to resonate through my music.
• 57:51
  I wanted to that light shine through on people, you know, so
• 57:57
  I really appreciated that in your episode.
• 57:59
  I like that and you said that to you.
• 58:03
  So we need good people. Like, what is good?
• 58:06
  What is bad? That's very, you know, you could
• 58:10
  go on a conversation. What is this?
• 58:12
  What's that? Don't?
• 58:15
  I don't want other people to be hurt when you try to move
• 58:17
  forward in life. You don't have to rip someone
• 58:19
  off to get a good deal. You don't.
• 58:22
  There's so much money in this world, you know, there's so much
• 58:25
  food and you said to just hug someone.
• 58:30
  And I like that, too, because my brother Ryan sometimes when he's
• 58:34
  upset he'll like know. Upset just hugs please.
• 58:39
  And I'm like that made me think of that and he's done that since
• 58:42
  he was a little kid. And like, everyone loves a good
• 58:45
  hug. And even some people even cry
• 58:47
  when you hug them because yeah, seven almost feel worse, but
• 58:51
  better at the same time, you know, and I don't know.
• 58:54
  I really like that too. And there are good people out
• 58:58
  there and my dad was saying that recently, when I was messaging
• 59:01
  you, when I was feeling a bit down, I was just like, man, like
• 59:06
  am I? Saying this stuff and looking
• 59:08
  like an idiot. Am I like being all happy?
• 59:11
  And like I look dumb like are people, like, yo, this isn't
• 59:14
  life like, Get over yourself. But my dad and you were saying
• 59:19
  you're like, just keep doing it. Like it's different.
• 59:22
  Like this is missing. Like it really is.
• 59:26
  And like, a lot of people are telling me like, I'm onto
• 59:29
  something. And I believe I am.
• 59:31
  And I like to say, I know I am, I'm confident in what I do.
• 59:35
  I believe in myself. Has everyone should I'm my
• 59:38
  biggest fan, you know, you need to be, you know, and again
• 59:43
  there's a difference between being confident and believe in
• 59:46
  yourself and being arrogant just like there's a difference
• 59:49
  between being youthful and immature, you know, and I don't
• 59:54
  know, there are good people out there.
• 59:56
  There. It seems like there are very few
• 59:59
  of them. But they're out there.
• 1:00:01
  I love what you talked about and how you're very positive in your
• 1:00:04
  stories that you post. Which is very ironic because you
• 1:00:08
  post a lot of villain acting things.
• 1:00:12
  I think it's great. But but no, it's funny when I'm
• 1:00:16
  not working on my music. I'm working on like death metal
• 1:00:18
  for people. Hey, yeah, I'm working like that
• 1:00:22
  heaviest screaming music, but I sound like we could lift each
• 1:00:26
  other because we all deserve a chance and I go in the studio on
• 1:00:29
  people. Like I make sense that there's a
• 1:00:32
  lot more demand for production with regards those genres.
• 1:00:36
  You're gonna get more work. Work that way.
• 1:00:37
  Anyway my sense and hey for how happy I am, there.
• 1:00:40
  Is that other side that doesn't feel down to.
• 1:00:42
  And maybe that's my way of expressing it.
• 1:00:44
  You know, like I've loved the energy in that music.
• 1:00:48
  It's crazy Direction, Taylor Swift.
• 1:00:51
  And then why how did it go? Literally?
• 1:00:54
  Can I check my remember, Whitechapel?
• 1:00:56
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah. If like, have you bands like
• 1:01:08
  that and cool, you know? Very different than my music,
• 1:01:12
  but I like it and maybe that's what balances me.
• 1:01:14
  And makes me do my kind of music.
• 1:01:17
  I've been in heavy bands and stuff.
• 1:01:20
  But where I am now, I feel like I'm making the exact music
• 1:01:23
  that's always been in my head. When I first started guitar,
• 1:01:27
  which was actually kind of late in life.
• 1:01:28
  I was like 17 when I started guitar 16 or 17 and then, yeah,
• 1:01:35
  I got right into Wanting the play shows and start a band.
• 1:01:39
  And I was like hooked. And I knew I was like a
• 1:01:41
  songwriter instead of like a guitarist because I was like, oh
• 1:01:46
  I could get one note at a time. And if I just go dun, dun, dun
• 1:01:49
  dun, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun, dun dun.
• 1:01:53
  That's enough, you'd sing dddddd.
• 1:02:07
  And it's catchy and like people always would point out that
• 1:02:10
  like, it's really catchy. Like how did you write that?
• 1:02:12
  Like, yeah, it's sing this. I was like, hmm.
• 1:02:16
  I write caching music, you know, like I do I know this I do and
• 1:02:19
  so I I feel like I went as a guitarist to write for other
• 1:02:25
  people and I was like, I'll be in the band.
• 1:02:27
  I'm the guitarist and I rode a lot of things and projects that
• 1:02:30
  would said, then I realized it wasn't being said how I wanted
• 1:02:34
  and it kind of turned into Two. What everyone was writing about
• 1:02:40
  like heartbreak? And yeah, like I have songs
• 1:02:45
  about heartbreak, but they're going to be a little different
• 1:02:48
  when they come out. Like I have a song coming out
• 1:02:50
  called better off dead very different than my friend.
• 1:02:55
  Right? But the lyrics are I'm better
• 1:02:58
  off dead. A bullet to my head.
• 1:03:01
  Just a couple things that you said back then, like the words.
• 1:03:06
  They said to me felt like That you were my best friend, a
• 1:03:09
  stranger in the end. We're better off dead.
• 1:03:12
  Yeah, we're better off dead. It's not about killing yourself.
• 1:03:17
  It's but it's extreme. You know, I really care.
• 1:03:21
  Get attention. Yeah, you like, I'm better off
• 1:03:24
  dead. A bullet in my head.
• 1:03:27
  Just a couple things that you said back.
• 1:03:29
  Then you were my best friend, a stranger in the end.
• 1:03:32
  We're better off dead. Yeah, we're better off dead.
• 1:03:35
  And then I say we're better off dead.
• 1:03:38
  Was it something that I said, poor that my heart and you left
• 1:03:41
  me on read either way. I can't pretend you changed me
• 1:03:45
  for the better. Even though I lost a friend,
• 1:03:48
  there's something I want to ask you about real quick.
• 1:03:50
  Very like different to talk about a relationship.
• 1:03:54
  Like I say like and it's not even specifically about a girl,
• 1:03:58
  it's about other projects. I was into friends.
• 1:04:02
  I talked about losing best friends and stuff through music.
• 1:04:05
  And love is given to all types of people.
• 1:04:08
  It doesn't have to be just your boyfriend a girlfriend.
• 1:04:11
  You know, you love your family, you love your friends, too.
• 1:04:14
  You have to love yourself. Elf, most importantly and you
• 1:04:17
  know that that's where like my songs come from there.
• 1:04:20
  Very Like realize what the lessons?
• 1:04:24
  You're learning like, just because something's better off
• 1:04:26
  dead. Maybe it is better off dead.
• 1:04:30
  You know, like rather than you then just I didn't say I'm gonna
• 1:04:33
  put a bullet in my head, like it's about the words.
• 1:04:35
  You said, felt like that. And then I realized, you know
• 1:04:38
  what, maybe you're right me and like, you learn from it and you
• 1:04:43
  could go forward from it. So, I do have songs that are
• 1:04:46
  deep and stuff, but always try to cite, you know, like you
• 1:04:50
  changed me. or the better even though I lost a friend, like
• 1:04:54
  Like, I haven't heard that breakup song that like kind of
• 1:04:57
  thanks the person, you know, like but anyway, you're about to
• 1:05:01
  say something. I'm sorry.
• 1:05:02
  Yeah. No.
• 1:05:02
  No, I wanted you to finish this because it's interesting here in
• 1:05:07
  that. Would that would have been one
• 1:05:08
  of the questions I would have asked.
• 1:05:09
  Anyways, about your lyrical themes, which I think are
• 1:05:12
  interesting, is, yeah, you have a unique approach to these
• 1:05:16
  different things and also with regards to your positivity,
• 1:05:21
  which we've spoken about already, but one thing I really,
• 1:05:24
  Ask you about mostly because it's something I suffer with
• 1:05:28
  work as well. But you seem to be conquering it
• 1:05:32
  in a better way is having this like self belief that, you know,
• 1:05:37
  you're going to make it. I, I just seen people I've known
• 1:05:43
  now, who were at a nobody level even leagues before where I am
• 1:05:50
  now, and even you have your own show you're running it.
• 1:05:53
  You have a microphone. Phone your setup.
• 1:05:55
  You got headphones on people never get to that stage like you
• 1:06:00
  already did it. This is the thing.
• 1:06:02
  This is the thing. This stage is not is easier than
• 1:06:05
  you. Think it is this microphone.
• 1:06:07
  I'm not as expensive as you think, is the said, folks not,
• 1:06:10
  but people think it is. And it shows how tough the world
• 1:06:13
  is because I see music people comment like man, I can't afford
• 1:06:17
  that program and I'm like, it's $23, you're going out.
• 1:06:21
  Oh, I guess I get, I get that now.
• 1:06:22
  Well, let that That's it. That's different though.
• 1:06:26
  That shows that's a lack of awareness.
• 1:06:30
  Yes, and some of self-belief though.
• 1:06:33
  I've seen people who are in the beginning stages of things go
• 1:06:38
  from that to Star them. Hmm.
• 1:06:41
  Like I've seen people become like to the level.
• 1:06:47
  That's it. Like they did it like they're
• 1:06:49
  set now that's their life and the fact that I've seen it
• 1:06:53
  happen. I'm like I've witnessed it from
• 1:06:56
  people. I know it's not just a story.
• 1:06:59
  Now. I've seen it.
• 1:07:00
  It's real like it is. And even myself my ban when I,
• 1:07:05
  well, my old prod less project. I was in, we were working hard
• 1:07:10
  hustling, like to get radio play the set, and it worked.
• 1:07:13
  And we made major. We got top 40 radio, like
• 1:07:16
  they're playing us after Shawn Mendes and cardi B.
• 1:07:19
  Like, and we didn't have a label.
• 1:07:21
  We have manager. We had nothing.
• 1:07:23
  I was just straight Hustle. I saw it's doable and then I
• 1:07:26
  started playing shows with Nick Jonas, Meghan, Trainor, all even
• 1:07:30
  Shawn Mendes dnce, whoever I came and think anymore, like all
• 1:07:36
  these people and I got on those stages myself.
• 1:07:40
  What with, you know, the group I was in but we did it ourselves
• 1:07:45
  and I've been in the big radio stations.
• 1:07:48
  I've always wanted to be on like I've met the people I wanted to
• 1:07:51
  meet. I've worked with people, I've
• 1:07:53
  listened to my whole life now. Now, right from my room and now
• 1:07:56
  I moved to LA just from music. I do it.
• 1:07:58
  Full-time music. I pay my bills.
• 1:08:00
  Full-time from music. I couldn't do that a few years
• 1:08:04
  ago. I did it and now I'm just like,
• 1:08:08
  keep it going. I always wanted to reach the
• 1:08:10
  highest level. You could like, when you say,
• 1:08:13
  Lenny Jay. I want you to think of Michael
• 1:08:16
  Jackson and Prince and Taylor, Swift and Drake.
• 1:08:20
  And you see the trend here, like icons, like, Major impacts on
• 1:08:26
  music, you know, that's where I'm trying to go with it.
• 1:08:30
  You have, you know, Taylor now, Billy eilish Harry Styles
• 1:08:33
  Bieber, Lenny. Jay.
• 1:08:35
  I'm going for that level of impact on culture.
• 1:08:39
  Like I want to do that. I believe in myself that I could
• 1:08:44
  do it because I've met these people that I've named, I've
• 1:08:48
  been around them. They are just like us, they're
• 1:08:52
  not different. The only Only thing different
• 1:08:55
  about them. They're popular.
• 1:08:57
  They are talented. I like all these cars.
• 1:09:00
  I love them. I listen, tell us Swift and
• 1:09:01
  Bieber every day. But the point I'm making is they
• 1:09:05
  are regular people. We all are people regular as in.
• 1:09:10
  They sleep. They eat, they breathe.
• 1:09:14
  I believe it. When I see it.
• 1:09:17
  I know I didn't see them drinking water.
• 1:09:19
  So they might be robots. But no, but the point I'm trying
• 1:09:23
  to make is Like I've seen them, I've been around them and the
• 1:09:28
  conversations we have are like this and they say like I want
• 1:09:32
  this for the world. I want to be better and I'm like
• 1:09:38
  They are out there may be, you know, and like I and meeting
• 1:09:41
  some big people that were super evil.
• 1:09:44
  Woke me up. I've met people, I listen to my
• 1:09:48
  whole life that are now enemies of me.
• 1:09:52
  And, you know, and that's pretty disheartening, but then I met
• 1:09:55
  with the doll. Did that happen for personal
• 1:09:58
  reasons, or was that just that you realize they're bad people?
• 1:10:00
  And you were just like, okay. I don't mean to call them bad
• 1:10:03
  people, their priorities, the way, they acted things say,
• 1:10:07
  Right. Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 1:10:09
  Like, seriously the greatest right, you know, and they just
• 1:10:14
  continue to live that way and they know and they talk about it
• 1:10:17
  very like, yeah, it's who I am. I am screwed up.
• 1:10:20
  I am in F up. I am a loser and that's what the
• 1:10:23
  world will look like. They say that to me.
• 1:10:25
  And I'm like, why are you saying that they're?
• 1:10:28
  Like, all I am is a drug addict. I'm gonna die and I'm like, no,
• 1:10:32
  you're better than that. And they're like, no.
• 1:10:35
  Like, and sometimes people say to me.
• 1:10:37
  They're like, they get angry at me.
• 1:10:39
  Like, why are you so positive be upset for a day?
• 1:10:43
  Be annoyed? It's not going to go well and
• 1:10:45
  I'm like, yeah, there are times where that will happen.
• 1:10:47
  But right now, you're going through something and I want to
• 1:10:50
  help you get through it. The best as possible.
• 1:10:52
  Stop accepting like, defeat, unless it's like death.
• 1:10:56
  There's nothing. Nothing else.
• 1:10:57
  Stop you, you know, like someone a close friend of mine told me
• 1:11:01
  that thing. She said if there's she's an
• 1:11:05
  engineer, she said if there's a problem And you could fix it.
• 1:11:10
  Why are you upset? And if there's a problem and you
• 1:11:13
  can't fix it. Why are you upset?
• 1:11:16
  Yeah, and I was like, You know, that in the bed thought, ya
• 1:11:23
  know, like and of course we have emotions were gonna react to
• 1:11:26
  things but how we handle emotions and how we react really
• 1:11:30
  defines us. As people often think strength
• 1:11:33
  is not about how powerful you are, but it's how well you could
• 1:11:36
  adapt to whatever situation or environment you're in, and
• 1:11:39
  that's what true survival is, and I think that You know brings
• 1:11:45
  together what my music is about the walks of life you interview.
• 1:11:49
  It's all about how we receive the world to us and how we react
• 1:11:54
  to it. I'm seeing the world in a lot of
• 1:11:57
  music. I see very sad.
• 1:11:59
  Mm. Maybe that's the music that I'm
• 1:12:01
  drawn to for some reason and that's making my music super
• 1:12:04
  positive. I don't know.
• 1:12:06
  I really can't answer it. But neither is just lost sad
• 1:12:09
  music out there and I really like being positive.
• 1:12:13
  It's fun. I've been sad.
• 1:12:15
  I've been depressed. I still deal with depression at
• 1:12:18
  times, but you gotta, you know, every day is here and
• 1:12:25
  fortunately every day is here for me, you know, and not
• 1:12:29
  everyone could say that whether you know, they're suffer mental
• 1:12:33
  illness and they suffer the suicide or they get sick, you
• 1:12:37
  know, life is Very fragile. And I've seen a lot of family
• 1:12:43
  members passed away. When I was young.
• 1:12:45
  I've become almost like numb to people, passing away.
• 1:12:50
  I often make very dark humor jokes about death.
• 1:12:53
  I have such dark humor, and I think it's how I cope with dark
• 1:12:58
  things. But I just feel like we need to
• 1:13:03
  stop isolating ourselves and thinking, we are alone and we
• 1:13:07
  are these lost. Causes that are alone, even if a
• 1:13:11
  bunch of lost causes get together in the same room, they
• 1:13:14
  could realize they're not alone. And I feel like a lot of people
• 1:13:17
  come together and they want misery loves company, you know,
• 1:13:21
  and I'm not saying this is the whole world.
• 1:13:23
  I'm not trying to be like, I'm the only happy person world, but
• 1:13:26
  you're telling me 9 out of 10 songs aren't strong more.
• 1:13:31
  So about it's easier to be sad than happy so overseas and
• 1:13:37
  that's just like the angle. I'm coming out with Everything.
• 1:13:40
  I think it's great to interview these positive people in life.
• 1:13:43
  And those who are going through things.
• 1:13:45
  We need to hear about that stuff too, you know, because they you
• 1:13:50
  know yin and yang every L everything has an opposite equal
• 1:13:54
  and opposite reaction, you know, and it's time bring some light
• 1:13:58
  to the world. I want to bring some Smiles.
• 1:14:00
  I want to make people happy. I want them to look in my eyes
• 1:14:04
  and know that I'm looking at that person.
• 1:14:07
  You said, you'll see like you said, In that episode you said
• 1:14:10
  you just look in their eyes. Like there is a person in there
• 1:14:12
  somewhere, even if they look numb, like they were a person
• 1:14:16
  and you can crack it. And there are unfortunately
• 1:14:20
  times I do think some people are too far gone.
• 1:14:23
  And I don't know that's almost like it makes me want to work
• 1:14:30
  harder to like be like, there's no such thing.
• 1:14:32
  You can make a difference like you could do anything you
• 1:14:36
  believe in. I really do.
• 1:14:37
  And that's what I want. What my music will do.
• 1:14:40
  That's what my message is. I want to be that voice for
• 1:14:44
  people that can speak up or don't have the ability to.
• 1:14:48
  I want to be a voice for the defenseless and defend the
• 1:14:50
  defenseless. I want to be that person.
• 1:14:53
  I wish I had when I didn't have someone and that is the brand of
• 1:14:58
  Lenny Jay and it's just to be honest and like put it right out
• 1:15:02
  there for you. I don't want to censor things
• 1:15:04
  and I'm not trying to give you a false sense of like, My world's
• 1:15:09
  all happy all the time. Like no.
• 1:15:11
  I've only released two songs, you know, like there's a lot to
• 1:15:15
  talk about. It's going to be very positive,
• 1:15:17
  very colorful. That's my thing.
• 1:15:20
  You know, my next single coming out.
• 1:15:22
  It's gonna be really cool. It's an Anthem for all those
• 1:15:26
  working hard, chasing something, and that you're recognizing.
• 1:15:31
  What's up, its me? That's me.
• 1:15:33
  Yeah, I say this one's for the overwhelmed and the
• 1:15:38
  underappreciated overworked another night, keeping you
• 1:15:41
  waiting. Because, you know, you're always
• 1:15:43
  working late and people are waiting on you.
• 1:15:45
  And I say, life is more than just 925 regrets looking back.
• 1:15:49
  Wondering. What if I tried?
• 1:15:51
  So for the overwhelmed and the underappreciated, that's what
• 1:15:55
  the next song is about. And, you know, everyone's
• 1:15:58
  working hard and I didn't touch upon not yet.
• 1:16:01
  I want to talk about, not just I'm on a journey.
• 1:16:04
  I'm being an artist in La Tommy Pickles, life of a runaway.
• 1:16:08
  I needed to be a better person and take that first step.
• 1:16:12
  And now Tommy is about after taking that first step on the
• 1:16:16
  journey. I'm not giving up and I didn't.
• 1:16:18
  And now the next song is about. I know you guys are putting one
• 1:16:23
  foot in front of the other two and like I've been there and I'm
• 1:16:26
  still doing it. I've witnessed my dad work hard
• 1:16:29
  and that's what the songs. Out.
• 1:16:31
  Actually, what I viewed like it's almost like a POV of him
• 1:16:36
  working in singing the song but it's me telling it how I
• 1:16:41
  imagined. It was in his head how it came
• 1:16:43
  off his working all the time when I was younger and my mom
• 1:16:47
  was home with my other brothers and watching us.
• 1:16:50
  I am so songs about that and you know, there are a lot of
• 1:16:55
  working-class people in this world, you know, and it relates
• 1:16:59
  to Everyone working hard back, break people, who are calloused,
• 1:17:04
  you know, heartbreak. It's literally just about
• 1:17:08
  everyone grinding and I feel like we all have that working
• 1:17:12
  class Anthem. I want to, you know, bring that
• 1:17:16
  to the table for people. I want them to know their work
• 1:17:20
  isn't underappreciated. So many people work so hard.
• 1:17:23
  They don't get a pat on the back because they're just getting by
• 1:17:26
  helping their families and stuff.
• 1:17:28
  And the families are thankful. But like A lot of people aren't
• 1:17:32
  ever, like really, like, you're like, keeping us alive.
• 1:17:36
  Like I want this song for them when they're driving to like
• 1:17:40
  hear it while they're stuck in traffic and be like, I'm
• 1:17:44
  recognized, you know, and that's what I say in the song.
• 1:17:47
  I say another long drive east side traffic backed up on my way
• 1:17:51
  home. My radio car stereo plays a song
• 1:17:54
  and now I don't feel so alone. Well, you know, that's what the
• 1:17:58
  songs about like, you know, you are not alone and I hope my
• 1:18:01
  songs the song on the radio that comes on and they're in traffic
• 1:18:05
  and my dad would always tell me I'd be in traffic coming home.
• 1:18:08
  And there was a song I hear I'm like that reminds me of when you
• 1:18:11
  were younger growing up and like, it got me like, yeah, I'm
• 1:18:15
  hyped. And like I was like, I don't
• 1:18:18
  feel that when I listen to music anymore.
• 1:18:20
  Like I, I'm too busy, like you see the memes, like me,
• 1:18:23
  listening to drug dealer music on the way, the my nine-to-five
• 1:18:29
  and they're like and it's like Someone really clean cut and I'm
• 1:18:32
  like, it's a mean it's funny. I got it is really funny because
• 1:18:36
  I'll listen to crazy music to going to like a volunteer thing,
• 1:18:40
  but Where's the actual song? Like I feel like that working
• 1:18:46
  hard like, you know, these rock stars and pop stars in the 80s
• 1:18:51
  and 90s were very like this is all I got here.
• 1:18:55
  I am like Bryan Adams. He were a T-shirt and jeans and
• 1:18:58
  has guitar, you know, like that's it.
• 1:19:01
  Like there was no gimmick. Like there was nothing to it.
• 1:19:04
  Like a lot of 80s hair bands, had the teased hair and all
• 1:19:07
  that, but they were just singing about poison nothing but a good
• 1:19:11
  time. No, like happy, you know, like
• 1:19:15
  party. And I like we do have party
• 1:19:18
  songs. Now.
• 1:19:18
  We are, you know, party rock is in the house tonight, but like
• 1:19:23
  even soda back. Yeah.
• 1:19:25
  Okay, but remember when dance music was crazy and like, 2010
• 1:19:30
  narrow it I feel like hasn't it calmed down a little and I feel
• 1:19:34
  like we're going to start to go up again.
• 1:19:35
  Music goes and Trends up and down, literally like a cookie.
• 1:19:40
  The 60s are, I wouldn't even say, A calm and then the late
• 1:19:43
  60s, we started getting more the stones and Zeppelin.
• 1:19:48
  Really God nasty with the guitar and then into the 80s, very
• 1:19:53
  electronic, but then grunge was calmer even though it's heavy.
• 1:19:57
  It is calmer than the 80s music like Alice in Chains is so dark
• 1:20:02
  and quiet. It's not quiet.
• 1:20:04
  I don't mean to say that, but it's very like droney compared
• 1:20:08
  to only nothing. But again, Yeah, what a
• 1:20:13
  difference in a few years and but then we started getting into
• 1:20:17
  99 and that's when insync came out and and everything and then
• 1:20:22
  all of a sudden late, 2007 S, it kind of ever for a second rock
• 1:20:27
  kind of slow down and then Kesha and Gaga came in and it got hype
• 1:20:31
  again and OneRepublic and all these LMFAO through 2012, 13 and
• 1:20:36
  now, here's Billy eilish Khalid and it's very calm R&B.
• 1:20:42
  Even Bieber, got calm for a second.
• 1:20:44
  Then his last album. Very upbeat Miley Rock album.
• 1:20:48
  Last album. Everything's getting bigger
• 1:20:50
  right now. Mmm MGK rock, you know, like I
• 1:20:55
  think we're going to that big sound again and those big sounds
• 1:20:58
  always do. Stay relevant as comic songs
• 1:21:00
  always well, but we do go in and out of trends like I feel like
• 1:21:03
  everything goes west. I think West and music to like
• 1:21:08
  all trains, go around the world. Literally they get passed around
• 1:21:11
  like X one, we're using like, you know, those very Middle
• 1:21:15
  Eastern like scales in pop music at times.
• 1:21:19
  Then we're going through a Kpop surgeons, the last few years,
• 1:21:23
  and let you know like things from around the world travel and
• 1:21:26
  I think where we are and music what's happening.
• 1:21:29
  I just think it's time for like this stuff.
• 1:21:31
  And if not right now it will eventually be time, you know,
• 1:21:35
  and the trends are going faster now because of the internet and
• 1:21:38
  what where what we have access to used to be 60.
• 1:21:42
  NTS 80's 90's. Now it's like every two years,
• 1:21:45
  the trends like it's very quick. Like I feel like we went through
• 1:21:49
  an 80s Trend like in like 2010 even like what like some artists
• 1:21:55
  we're like, doing 80s his stuff, and it got bigger and bigger and
• 1:21:58
  then it even turned into like, the 80s in a different way.
• 1:22:03
  Now, like, it's like the 80s evolved even more in me.
• 1:22:07
  It's cool. And even things were like NF,
• 1:22:10
  teas and crypto. We saw nft.
• 1:22:12
  Started out like these 8bit arts and now they're really good
• 1:22:15
  looking. I feel like we watched a new
• 1:22:17
  item called an NF T. Go from 8bit to great graphics
• 1:22:21
  within a year and it's like we saw a development of art within
• 1:22:25
  a year didn't that take like 1970 to 2010 to have good
• 1:22:30
  graphics and video games. And now we witness Graphics.
• 1:22:34
  Go from pixels to normal in an NF T because we only had pixels
• 1:22:39
  in nft is I think and then it grew already.
• 1:22:42
  Two good technology and graphics and I think that itself shows
• 1:22:46
  something about Trends and art and music.
• 1:22:49
  It's evolving so fast, we figure out how to go from.
• 1:22:53
  Oh man. It's like we invented things now
• 1:22:56
  like, oh there could be a cell phone now, but then we have the
• 1:23:00
  iPhone within a year like we figure it out the conception of
• 1:23:04
  the phone and then the iPhone level things are made.
• 1:23:07
  Now like so quick and I think it's the same thing with Trends.
• 1:23:11
  They're above Solving so fast and you can't chase the trends
• 1:23:15
  because if you're chasing it, you lost all the music you're
• 1:23:19
  hearing. I made these songs 23 years ago.
• 1:23:23
  Like, so if you're like, oh man, I could do what Lenny's doing
• 1:23:26
  like, well, no, you're three years behind like all the
• 1:23:30
  album's out from Lady. Gaga Drake.
• 1:23:33
  They're all a year plus old like.
• 1:23:36
  So if you hear that, wow, that's the new wave like no, you lost
• 1:23:41
  like your Behind. So, you know, with all that, I
• 1:23:44
  know that was all over the place, but I feel like it really
• 1:23:48
  sums up everything we talked about, you know, and it's just
• 1:23:51
  about being a leader being positive.
• 1:23:54
  There are dark things in the world, but we got to evolve and
• 1:23:57
  adapt and survive and help others survive.
• 1:24:00
  It's not survival of the fittest.
• 1:24:02
  Like, I mean, yes, it is, but We don't have to let other people
• 1:24:07
  fail and hurt each other. Like we can volunteer and help
• 1:24:10
  we do have time to spare for people.
• 1:24:13
  We can do things like we can Inspire others to do it and I
• 1:24:18
  think between my brand and what you're doing, you know, I like
• 1:24:21
  seeing these positive things and it's hard to find artists like
• 1:24:25
  that, but you are an artist in your own right.
• 1:24:27
  And you have very positive mindset.
• 1:24:30
  So it's nice to find the like minded individual.
• 1:24:33
  And I thank you for having me. On here and you know, sharing
• 1:24:36
  your podcast and letting me be part of it, I just mine as
• 1:24:40
  always. Thank you for that.
• 1:24:42
  I've got a few final questions before we sort of wrap things up
• 1:24:45
  for today. Just want to kind of gauge your
• 1:24:48
  mind a bit as far as knowledge is concerned.
• 1:24:53
  Okay, what's the best advice you've ever received?
• 1:24:58
  Best advice, just, I would say probably from my parents, you
• 1:25:06
  know, just they suggest keep going like, my dad always tells
• 1:25:11
  me. He's like, just keeping you
• 1:25:13
  like, just keep going. Don't stop.
• 1:25:16
  Just do it. Like, you gotta believe in
• 1:25:19
  yourself and like, forget what everyone else is saying and how
• 1:25:22
  hard things are. He was always very supportive
• 1:25:25
  like always thought my Arts games always at my shows, so, I
• 1:25:29
  was fortunate enough to have that support and I think that is
• 1:25:34
  like the advice that has been best, like someone telling me
• 1:25:37
  just keep going and that kind of helped me tell myself.
• 1:25:41
  Because then, if you say things over and over, like they're like
• 1:25:44
  mantra', you start to believe them because they become true.
• 1:25:47
  I think, just hearing it from him, like, chase your dreams.
• 1:25:50
  Like that's been, you know, just do it.
• 1:25:53
  And, like, not everyone has that support.
• 1:25:56
  So, I hope like again, in my music, I could show like, I Have
• 1:25:59
  support. And if you don't from a parent,
• 1:26:01
  like there are people like me and you and even like my dad
• 1:26:05
  will comment on other artists stuff.
• 1:26:07
  Like there is support out there. Like you're not alone.
• 1:26:11
  Couldn't agree more. What's the biggest life lesson
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  you've learned so far. Don't meet your Idols.
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  I can concur with that one. Yeah.
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  Now A Life Lesson. Everything is a lesson.
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  You gotta you're not down for the count ever.
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  There's nothing you could do in life that's going to be so bad.
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  That your life is over unless it is horribly, you know, like
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  that's tragic but there's no business venture you could ever
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  do that's gonna like you're broke.
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  Ugh forever. Like you like there's nothing
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  that's going to put you so far, but act like your life is over.
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  So the lesson is like it's not over when you think of it as you
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  you can do multiple Ventures. Like not.
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  Everything's going to work. You have to shoot the ball 1000
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  times together shot in you know, you have to write a thousand
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  songs before one makes it so just keep going.
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  Have that stamina. That's the lesson.
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  I learned most artists don't fail a end.
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  Stop. They break up.
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  You know, I agree and all that today as well.
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  Not everyone knows this, but I'm an aspiring actor, voice actor,
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  musician. Lot of different things that I
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  do in my life and I've been told in the past like all you need to
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  focus on a niche. You should only focus on one
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  thing. Why are you doing all these
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  different things? And it speaks to what you're
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  saying? And one of the reasons is I just
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  don't want to live a life where I have to do one thing for the
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  rest of my life. Yeah, but mine.
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  Importantly. You know, I have the energy to
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  do these things. I want to do these things.
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  I want to pursue these things and I don't see any reason why I
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  can't. And that's what I said.
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  Like, for anyone can write, you can make it work.
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  Yeah, you're a voice actor, the song, Tommy Pickles, a voice
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  actor, actress and names eg daily.
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  She's a singer. She, she's a voice actress.
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  She was touring before she got the Tommy gig but just shows,
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  she was doing music having record gigs, and she's Tommy,
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  and she's tart. Not, she's not trying right now,
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  but she's putting out music right now, and she's, you know,
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  I don't know how old she is. I would imagine.
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  She's probably between 45 and 55.
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  Maybe I'm guessing, but it just shows is it she not doing
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  everything you're doing and she's Tommy Pickles, and she's
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  also Buttercup from The Powerpuff Girls and everyone
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  else we know. So if she did it, why can't you
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  And instead of saying, why can't you though, I should say you
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  can't you will, you know, you he did it.
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  So you can, I think we all could do things.
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  And sometimes people tell me like not everyone is capable.
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  I think everyone is capable of saying, like, you need to find
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  what it is. You know, there's so many things
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  we don't do, you know, like what if I'm like, I could juggle
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  pretty well. Weirdly enough like just like
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  simple what if I pursued that? Well, if I became like a
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  professional clown, like, you never.
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  Or no, like, there's so much in life to do.
• 1:29:18
  And doing many things is only way you'll learn.
• 1:29:21
  I don't just be an artist. I record people, I write for
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  people, I play live for people. I play multiple instruments.
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  That in itself is all different Journeys.
• 1:29:29
  You know, I'm not just Lenny, Jay like I could record you.
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  If you ever needed music, I could produce your stuff if you
• 1:29:36
  won and got it, recorded somewhere else and you need me,
• 1:29:38
  the only mix it, I could do that.
• 1:29:40
  So we're all doing multiple things and we're killing it.
• 1:29:47
  As we draw things to a close for today.
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  Do you have any upcoming projects or final thoughts that
• 1:29:52
  you'd like to share with our listeners, more music coming.
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  Consistently. I have a new song coming out.
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  It's called overwhelmed. I was explaining before.
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  I don't mind saying it here. It's called overwhelmed.
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  It will be out in. May, the fifth song should be
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  late April or in May depending, when you're listening to this
• 1:30:15
  right now. It's a future.
• 1:30:17
  Hello, us in the future. Hello future.
• 1:30:21
  I hope we're doing well in smiling.
• 1:30:23
  And so yeah, so they'll be playing more videos, videos
• 1:30:28
  songs. I'm going to be performing soon.
• 1:30:30
  Just keep up with me on social media.
• 1:30:32
  Lenny, Jay period, 13, my middle name actually, is Jay period in
• 1:30:37
  real life. So, yeah, so I'm Lenny, Jay
• 1:30:41
  period, don't forget the period and yeah, lots of Music, just
• 1:30:46
  and so many great artists. I'm working with.
• 1:30:49
  You could keep up with everything on social media.
• 1:30:51
  Like I said, I'm on Spotify YouTube.
• 1:30:55
  The next video for overwhelmed is going to be like a musical to
• 1:30:59
  so crazy. I can't wait for that.
• 1:31:02
  But yeah, just please keep up with everything.
• 1:31:04
  I'm doing. I want to hear from you.
• 1:31:05
  I want to know how my music impacts you.
• 1:31:08
  What your journey is. I talked to the people at
• 1:31:10
  message me. I answer all my comments and
• 1:31:13
  that's something a lot of the artists don't do it.
• 1:31:16
  Be inaccessible because I want to seem like higher than other
• 1:31:19
  people. And that's what I dealt with to,
• 1:31:22
  in past projects. I'm telling me, like, you're
• 1:31:24
  being too honest. We need to be above them, like,
• 1:31:27
  no, but anyway, future projects and all that.
• 1:31:31
  My musics coming out. I'm working with great artists
• 1:31:34
  lookout, for overwhelm coming up.
• 1:31:36
  I have ep's coming more songs album, coming everything like I
• 1:31:40
  have probably 25 to 30 full songs, done like the quality of
• 1:31:46
  Me and I also have like four other videos already done like
• 1:31:49
  ready. So I'm ahead.
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  So it's coming. I'm just, you know, guess I can
• 1:31:54
  give a song every week. I think they're too grand for
• 1:31:58
  that. Kind of strategy, even though
• 1:31:59
  that does work. For some people.
• 1:32:01
  There's too much I think to consume.
• 1:32:04
  It's a lot of to understand and process.
• 1:32:06
  So I can't just drop, you know, like run away.
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  Tommy over like these songs are, you know, we're having an hour
• 1:32:12
  conversation. You can't do that.
• 1:32:14
  Every second, it's too much, you know, so just keep a lookout so
• 1:32:19
  much his own way toys. You want me to play Anywhere.
• 1:32:21
  Reach out to me. Let me know.
• 1:32:23
  If you're an artist you need music done.
• 1:32:26
  I could work with you. Even.
• 1:32:27
  I work with so many other artists like I've been
• 1:32:30
  mentioning anything music or if you just want to talk and tell
• 1:32:33
  me about your day, people reach out and they tell me the things
• 1:32:36
  they go through. So everything coming up, is just
• 1:32:40
  music happiness. Good conversation.
• 1:32:43
  Good company. So just keep a lookout for that.
• 1:32:46
  I'm sure we'll stay in touch and custard.
• 1:32:50
  Thank you so much. Thank you for watching.
• 1:32:53
  The pleasure's. Mine is always man's.
• 1:32:55
  It's been real, you know, we'll be talking consistently outside
• 1:32:59
  of this. But thank you for what you do.
• 1:33:01
  Your podcast is really cool. I really enjoy the guess you
• 1:33:04
  have from what I've listened to. I look forward to the new angle.
• 1:33:08
  You're doing literally staring straight forward.
• 1:33:11
  That's screen. It's all good things.
• 1:33:13
  I think what Doing will help the world.
• 1:33:16
  And, you know, there are other people out there like look at us
• 1:33:19
  talking. I haven't really.
• 1:33:21
  I did one other podcasts only in the person was super positive
• 1:33:24
  like this, and I'm like, wow, maybe they are out there and
• 1:33:28
  yeah, but just thank you for having me.
• 1:33:31
  Anyway, I could speak about my music and what I do is
• 1:33:33
  appreciate it. So your time is very
• 1:33:36
  appreciated. Thank you so much.
• 1:33:39
  And yeah, it's all the listeners of Christian way podcast.
• 1:33:42
  Please go out of your way to check out Lenny.
• 1:33:43
  Jay. And thank you for listening.
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  As always be safe. Be well, and I'll see you next
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  one.