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Who's On Drugs ( Dr Carl Hart interview) · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: got problems with this because I won't be fake love it.
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  Speaker 1: I got my first shout of the vaccine yesterday, So
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  Speaker 1: what are you looking at me like that? I'm just
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  Speaker 1: looking to see what the big gonna grow from now. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's like the big growing out his neck this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Trip No, man, he come down. Look like the Beijing
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  Speaker 1: on your throat? Does that touch a drum? Touches throat um?
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  Speaker 1: Are you talking about? Yeah? So I took I took
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  Speaker 1: the first shot of the vaccine. Murda, A little weak shot.
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  Speaker 1: You look a little weak, white, your eyes red shut,
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  Speaker 1: be watching. I gotta go back on the twenty fifth
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  Speaker 1: of next month to get my second shot, So I
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  Speaker 1: twitch you. Yeah, what's wrong with you? Man? Good money? Man? Now,
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  Speaker 1: how did you man? Is to get the shot? The
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  Speaker 1: same thing, the same reason I tell you guys yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you go, you know, at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, a lot of these pharmacies and hospitals
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  Speaker 1: and testing places vaccine places. I should say, they have
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  Speaker 1: to use it. If they don't use it, it goes bad.
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  Speaker 1: So I was just waiting around and like I did
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and yesterday the sential worker came. H Well, the
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  Speaker 1: day before, an essential worker came. Yesterday, no essential worker came,
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  Speaker 1: and I was the only one there about to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of it, so they gave it to me. So
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  Speaker 1: that's how I got the shot. So he was just
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  Speaker 1: hanging out outside of the the pharmacy waiting for a leftover drugs. Basically, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much. All right, Well, speaking of drugs, we gotta
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  Speaker 1: a great guest this morning. Yes, his name is doctor
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  Speaker 1: Karl Hearts. Yes, I enjoyed doctor Carl Hearts conversation. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he is the doctor that I don't want to say.
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  Speaker 1: He's a Is he a function in heroin user? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he is a function functioning heroin user. He uses drugs.
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  Speaker 1: He has a book out called Drug Use for Grown Ups,
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  Speaker 1: Chasing Liberty and Land of Fear. Right. Yeah, so he
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  Speaker 1: talks about his drug use, him using heroin and some
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  Speaker 1: other drugs, and how he's functioning, how he's still a professor,
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  Speaker 1: and he's an American neuroscientist, but he studies drugs. So
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  Speaker 1: what he tells you to do, the average person probably
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do. Nobody should because and he studies the effects
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  Speaker 1: on the brain. So he also wanted to see what
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  Speaker 1: with Darrow would be like, and he knows how to
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  Speaker 1: micro dose and he but it's a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that you might not do because you're not an expert. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think heroin is a drug that you should
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  Speaker 1: be doing recreationally. No, no, no, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: drugs like, I mean, it's not I I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you should be doing crack recreation. You know. But he
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  Speaker 1: talks about his drug use, he wrote a book about it.
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  Speaker 1: He's a professor. But we're not here to judge just
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  Speaker 1: because we may not necessarily agree, but we will. We
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  Speaker 1: will have the conversation with him this morning. I just
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  Speaker 1: can't get into the you know, mold of telling people
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  Speaker 1: just say yes, that's just yeah, I'm with the motor No,
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  Speaker 1: don't try it, don't use it. It's not okay. What
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  Speaker 1: if you're in the hospital and they prescribe it. I've
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  Speaker 1: never gonna prescribe heroin. Prescribe what heroin? Yeah, heroin for well,
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  Speaker 1: not crack, but heroin. Yeah. The type of open, definite
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  Speaker 1: people get. People get addicted to those Like the opioid
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  Speaker 1: death rate is through the roof right now. Opioid overdose
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  Speaker 1: death rate, it's through the roof right now. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I do a lot of real estate, and we do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of real estate and messed up areas, and
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  Speaker 1: I would say seventy to eighty percent of the time
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  Speaker 1: when I walk in these houses, you would see a
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  Speaker 1: heroin fiend in there and needles everywhere. And then when
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  Speaker 1: you have conversations with them, they usually come from a
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  Speaker 1: great family or a nice family, or a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times family with money, but they got addicted and they
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  Speaker 1: can't get out. Yeah, I just can't stop and they
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  Speaker 1: have to continue to have this this drug. This drug
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  Speaker 1: took their life over and they went to rehab and
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  Speaker 1: they can't get out. They can't kick it, they can't
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  Speaker 1: beat it. So I've seen it. I had family members
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  Speaker 1: that odeed or drugs. So I don't play with drugs
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not even trying, like no, Like Heroin is
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  Speaker 1: the most addictive and it's the hardest to get off.
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  Speaker 1: But to your point, when you've seen a dopege, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you're not cant encourage nobody to do that recreationally otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll talk about it all right, Front Page News.
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  Speaker 1: What we're talking about, Well, let's talk about the X
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  Speaker 1: Team USA gym nastics coach John gettart he is dead.
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  Speaker 1: We'll tell you what happened everything, every boy, Hi, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. He started talking to me. Nick cameraman
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  Speaker 1: looked at me and say, why are you talking about Mars?
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  Speaker 1: I said what? And he said, we landed on Mars.
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  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Its gates? All right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's get in some front page news. Where we start, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's start with John Gettt, the coach of the legendary
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  Speaker 1: twenty twelve team USA gymnastics team. Now, he was charged
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  Speaker 1: with multiple accounts of human trafficking and sexual assault. He
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  Speaker 1: faced us up to life in prison, and he's six
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  Speaker 1: he's sixty three years old. But they say he should
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  Speaker 1: not be celebrated as some great coach. He actually sexually
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  Speaker 1: assaulted an unidentified person in twenty twelve who was between
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  Speaker 1: the ages of thirteen and sixteen. But the charges he's
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  Speaker 1: facing twenty counts of human trafficking, two counts of sexual assault,
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  Speaker 1: one count of racketarian, one count of lying to a
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  Speaker 1: peace officer. Well, now he is dead, according to state officials,
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  Speaker 1: and they said he took his own life after sexual
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  Speaker 1: assault child charges were filed against him. Gunshot wound. They
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  Speaker 1: said he died yesterday afternoon. I know you even heard
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  Speaker 1: him towards this. Now. He actually has ties to Larry Nassar.
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  Speaker 1: You know him, that was the tennis no Olympic coach.
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  Speaker 1: Well Nassar was the team doctor for the gymnastics team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was a doctor, so he um. Yeah, they have
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  Speaker 1: some ties with each other too, So he's no longer
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  Speaker 1: here all right. A survey shows that thirty eight percent
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  Speaker 1: of Americans would give up sex if they could travel again.
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  Speaker 1: They would give up sex for a year in order
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  Speaker 1: to be able to travel again. So no from me,
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  Speaker 1: not me. That's what I love going. I love traveling
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  Speaker 1: to have sex with my wife. That's what having sex
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  Speaker 1: and exotically travel of taking my wife. But you haven't
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  Speaker 1: sex there anyway? Hello, Well you guys could also have
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  Speaker 1: connections in other ways too, we do. You could travel
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  Speaker 1: together and not have sex and to have great deep conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not with that. I would venture to say that
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  Speaker 1: those thirty eight percent of people probably weren't having sex anyway.
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  Speaker 1: How much sex are they having prior to them giving
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  Speaker 1: it up? That's what I would like tell people that,
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  Speaker 1: like man, I haven't traveled in a year. I need
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  Speaker 1: to go somewhere. I haven't traveled in it yet, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, I'll take I'm much rather than my
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  Speaker 1: destination be my wife's John damn much. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: fine with that, all right. The Senate has ruled against
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  Speaker 1: including including the increase in the minimum wage and the
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  Speaker 1: COVID relief bill. They decided that last night. How much
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  Speaker 1: so when they ruled against it, Yeah, fifteen dollars an hour.
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  Speaker 1: So what they are saying is they believe that they
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  Speaker 1: do believe that it will pass easier, the COVID relief
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  Speaker 1: bill without the minimum wage in it. But of course
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  Speaker 1: Democrats feel like, no, we need to have this in
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  Speaker 1: the bill. It's very important, and Republicans are the ones
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  Speaker 1: that are against it. So Biden is disappointed in this outcome.
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  Speaker 1: He proposed having the fifteen dollar minimum wage as part
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  Speaker 1: of the American Rescue Plan, and he respects their decision
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  Speaker 1: in the sentence process, but they still want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that bill gets passed. Yeah, I gotta talk to
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  Speaker 1: somebody way smarter than me on this, because I thought
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  Speaker 1: Democrats had control of the Senate. Yeah, I thought Kamala
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  Speaker 1: Harris was the tiebreaker and all of that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you have to have like two thirds or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why I gotta talk to somebody
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  Speaker 1: smarter than me. I have no idea. All right, well
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  Speaker 1: that is your front page news. All right, get it
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  Speaker 1: off your chests. Eight hundred five eight five one oh
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to
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  Speaker 1: get it off your chests, whether you're mad or blest. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: who's this was going on? Man? I want to say
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  Speaker 1: an emental if I can. It's kind of a first situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's the radio. You just give us a fake. What
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  Speaker 1: would you want your name to be? If you could
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  Speaker 1: choose any name? Mike say Mike, Hey Mike, what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning? Mico? Might get it off your chest? Bike?
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  Speaker 1: Um No, I've been going through it, man. I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to trying to secure a place to live. Man, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine years old. I have a good credit score,
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  Speaker 1: I have money for a down payment and for you know,
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  Speaker 1: closing costs and stuff. But I can't find nobody to
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  Speaker 1: help me because I don't have I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have the income to get the house. And I've been
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  Speaker 1: in a wheelchair for the past ten years, going through
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  Speaker 1: rehabilitation after getting shot, and you know, open heart surgery
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I haven't had the work
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  Speaker 1: history that everybody's asking me for. And man, I got
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  Speaker 1: seven months left on my least. I'm playing eighteen hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars a month and my rental history doesn't even matter.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm about to be on the street with my
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  Speaker 1: three kids. I'm a stepfather to three kids. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What money do you have coming in monthly?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have an income coming in monthly? Yeah? I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm a government assistance you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But they don't give me nearly enough for them to
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  Speaker 1: approve me for a loan. Right. Well, See, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: If any bank won't give you a loan, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as far as what you make. There's different ways they
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  Speaker 1: can do a loan. They can actually do it as
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  Speaker 1: far as checking your deposits and see how much you
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  Speaker 1: actually deposit a month, But you got to show some
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  Speaker 1: money coming in. You just can't say I can afford
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  Speaker 1: this house. Trust me, like, you gotta have some type
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  Speaker 1: of income coming in where you can show the lenders
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  Speaker 1: that it's okay that you can pay that loan. Though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I've been trying, and it's like I'm going
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  Speaker 1: everywhere that I can to get a job for leave.
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  Speaker 1: But even if I get a job right now, nobody
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  Speaker 1: hiring for COVID. You know, I've been trying my best man,
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  Speaker 1: but like, I's got suffering money. But I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: on the street, and I know there's somebody out there
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  Speaker 1: that can help me out to finance me. I have
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  Speaker 1: money coming to them from the government. How much money
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  Speaker 1: you got coming in from the government, About eight hundreds
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  Speaker 1: a month? So how do you pay the rest of
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  Speaker 1: your rent? The rest of the thousand dollars for your rent?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I have people that helped me out and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'll do sign all to underside whatever I can,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I just try to make money as
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  Speaker 1: much as possible throughout the weeks to come. But every month,
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  Speaker 1: you know, being eighteen hundred dollars of months is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And if I had a house, I wouldn't be a
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  Speaker 1: kneel of that much. No, I mean, yeah, because if
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  Speaker 1: you had a house. But you know what, you know
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  Speaker 1: what you could do. Let me put you on the
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  Speaker 1: line with with Matt because what they can do is
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: they can do an asset lending, and asset lending is
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  Speaker 1: pretty much saying if you buy purchase a two family house,
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  Speaker 1: you you make the money or for the other apartments,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how you pay your part of the rent.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's an option for you, especially since you have
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  Speaker 1: the down payment and everything already and enough for the
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  Speaker 1: closing course. So hold on, let me put you on
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  Speaker 1: the on the line with with one of my people
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  Speaker 1: and see if they can help you. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they can, but I mean it
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  Speaker 1: might be a good way to go, because you know
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  Speaker 1: that way you can say the two apartments, pay your
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  Speaker 1: rent and pay your mortgage, and then you just live
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  Speaker 1: in the on the last apartment with your family. That
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  Speaker 1: might be an option. I wanted to do anything because,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I got I got three kids and
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  Speaker 1: a white man. I don't want to be on the street.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to lose my family, my life right now,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, brother, thank you all right, get it off
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  Speaker 1: your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
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  Speaker 1: If you need to vent, hit us up right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club of Yo.
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  Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're mad or blast. Eight hundred five eight five
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  Speaker 1: one oh five one. We want to hear from you
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  Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club. Okay, what's up? Get it off
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  Speaker 1: your chest. Let me tell you something. There's a famous
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  Speaker 1: celebrity from the forties that looks like a combination of you,
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  Speaker 1: envy and charlot me. I want to know if you
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  Speaker 1: ever heard of a celebrity named reck Ingram. Never heard
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  Speaker 1: of never heard of him, I ever heard of the
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  Speaker 1: names to booth. Nope, that's the famous and then actor.
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  Speaker 1: You should do the rigging next stuff like that. There
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  Speaker 1: was a genie, his name is rech Ingram. When he
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  Speaker 1: opens up the bottle, he looks exactly like a combination
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  Speaker 1: of you and envy. Well you sharlow me. He has
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  Speaker 1: your stuff and eyebrowsers. So let me go look at
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  Speaker 1: this hands and man, let me google him. Thank you, mama,
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  Speaker 1: An don't look nothing like me, that nothing like getting
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking looking at him right now. He was an actor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at him right now. He was an actor
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  Speaker 1: in eighteen hundreds eighteen ninety five. He was born, though
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  Speaker 1: I died in nineteen sixty nine. Jelly Belly from Boston. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Jelly Belly, get it off for Charlamagne? Right, Yes, Jelly.
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  Speaker 1: When you started therapy, do you remember the first UM
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  Speaker 1: interview that you did that you transformed? Do you realize
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  Speaker 1: you was you change? Oh? I don't. I would have
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  Speaker 1: to give it some thought for some reason. Why G
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  Speaker 1: popped in my head just now because I remember having
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with YG about therapy when he was here.
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  Speaker 1: I think this was after Nipsey past. Maybe I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: You know what that Nipsey moment, I realized I had
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  Speaker 1: changed too, because I never thought I would have pay
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  Speaker 1: for the person who actually killed Nipsey, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. I looked at that brother and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: that brother had to be in some real pain. He
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: had to be dealing with some real trauma to to
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  Speaker 1: do that, to do that to Nipsey, not just shoot him,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: but would kick him the way that he did that.
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  Speaker 1: That that moment, I definitely felt the real change. Absolutely. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And what about ye and um Envy? Did you guys
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  Speaker 1: see a change after his therapy session, that you guys
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  Speaker 1: were scared afterwards, or like Charlemagne, I would say this,
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  Speaker 1: he got a little he got more kinkier. So like
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  Speaker 1: you know, I can tell that he needed some more love.
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  Speaker 1: Like I guess, he wanted more self love and more
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  Speaker 1: outside love. So he comes in asking for more hugs.
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  Speaker 1: He stands behind me more. I do see that. I've
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  Speaker 1: been going to therapy though since twenty sixteen. Thank you, Mama. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's fine. Lead with love, that's all. That's all I
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  Speaker 1: got to say. Lee would love everybody. I love, Thank you,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Hello. Who's this Hey? This is Brad calling
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: from Dallas. Brad, what's up from Dallas? Man? Get it
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: off his chest. First of all, I want to say
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: good morning to Angela. Angela ye Vane the god DJ
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: every man. I love what y'all do. Thank you. I'm
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I'm a veteran man. I'm a labeled sixty percent disabled
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: from the military. I've been trying to purchase a home
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: for the past six years, man, six seven years. I
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: just I'm unable to do it. Man. I raised my
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: credit from five forty all the way to seven eighty,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and then I told her man, for some reason, cop
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: of the one place that I missed a payment or
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: something like that in my credit drop from seven eighty
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: to like six forty, and right now I raised it
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: right back up to seven ten. And I'm it's just
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: hard for me to get alone. Man, I don't know
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: what to do. Um, well, you hold on a line.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I gotta credit. Do that that I get your credit
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: back up, and then it's just a matter of finding
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a property. Do you have income coming in? Oh yeah, man,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I worked on a wife's work. I get income from
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the military, so the income is not a problem. Okay,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: all right, and then um yeah, we should be able
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: to find this is your first time, your first time
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: purchasing the home, first time? Man, Oh yeah, so you'll
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: qualifying the regulations. All right. You hold on him and
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I put you on my guy that could possibly get
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: you a loan. I want to say this to this
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: brother too. Man. This is why America pisses me off,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: because this is a veteran who you know, was on
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the front lines for our country. I feel like all
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: veterans should get free healthcare. You should get all you
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: should get free room in board, right, and you should
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: get like a stipend every month to take care of
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever, whatever your needs are, you should be
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: getting taken care of for the rest of your life.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: You should not be in this position at all. Yeah.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I thought they had special programs from veterans. I know
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: in Detroit they do now they have special programs for veterans.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And then they have FHR loans where he would only
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: have to put down three percent or three and a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: half percent. But um, yeah, I'll get you with a
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: mortgage guy that can help you out and hopefully he
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: can get you put point you in the right direction. Right, man,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I definitely appreciate that. Man, God bless y'all. Man, his
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: name is Matt. I'm gonna put you on with Matt,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: master guy that gets a people loans. All right, all right,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get it off your chest. Eight hundred five A five
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: one oh five one. And that's the reason why I
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: do those seminars, to try to teach people so people
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: don't go in the wrong direction. And you can help
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: people get loans, and there's different ways. And the people
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: that I'm around its way smarter than me when it
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: comes to real estate, and I can ask them and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: ain't no ways, and they've been able to do this
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a million times before, and the next seminar, we're doing
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: this in Atlanta on March fourteenth, where we break it
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: down everywhere from vets to fah loans, to first time
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: home buyers, to investment properties to multi units to all that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: We bring everybody from credit repair to attorneys, to contractors,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to conventional lending to hard money lending. We break it
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: all down because we really try to help people. I
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: know Drama's been one of the seminars and he recently
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: pursedes his crib and we just try to help as
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: many people as possible because I want to see people,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you know, owning their own homes instead of renting. So
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: hopefully we'll see you guys in Atlanta on the fourteenth.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: All right, now, we got rooms on the way, yes,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and we'll be talking about Mike Tyson he to boycott Hulu.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: We'll tell you why. All right, we'll get into that next.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club, Go Moore, the Breakfast Club team.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: This is the rumor rapport with Angela Yee on the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Well, Mike Tyson wants you to boycott Hulu. Now.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: He put out a statement on his Instagram page. He said,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: these actions taken by Hulu are just the tip of
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the iceberg. We shouldn't be surprised by these abhorrent actions,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: as they represent the systemic racism that has plagued Hollywood
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: for its entire existence. These corporate giants hide behind employees
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and praise themselves for offering tone deaf attempts at diversity
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and inclusion, like Hulu's Black Stories playlists that recommends stories
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: about black culture to viewers on the app. Yet behind
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: closed doors, they steal stories from the black community, all
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: because they are doing an unauthorized mini series of the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Tyson Story without compensation. Yeah. I never understood unauthor unauthorized
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: book or documentaries or movies about people, Like how can
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: someone just make something about you, use your name, your story,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: your likeness, and that compensate you. I've never understood that. Well,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Mike Tyxon is, by the way, doing his own authorized
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: autobiography too. That story is in development, so it will
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: be coming in coming out soon. But there's nothing you
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: can do about it, right, it seems always it is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: always something you can do. I'm sure, and I'm sure
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: it's some type of legal action. I think people don't
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: be wanting to, you know, go down that road because
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you know, these networks got so much goddamn money. You
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: know what I meaning? These companies you're trying to go
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: up and gets got so much money. But I don't
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: get it. You think people were boycott Hulu? Um, I
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: don't see why not? Why not? I just want to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: make sure we put it out there because Dave Chappelle
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: clearly did it. Or you know, even with the Dave
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Chappelle's situation is different, right because everybody says yeah, but
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: everybody said he boycotted. But also what really helped Dave
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: was HBO Max removing it and Netflix removing it. You
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: think people would have boycotted those shows were still up
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: there without those networks taking that down. I think it's easier.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I think he said he didn't want people to watch it,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: so he told them don't watch it, don't stream it
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: because it was on for a little while. And then
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: when they they gonna make any money from it too. Yeah,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I think it helps when the network supports the artist,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: supports the creative. All right now, Nicki Minaj her barbs
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: are sending death threats to Claudia Jordan. I know, right,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: all right, So this is what Claudia Jordan said, and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you know, she has a show on Fox Soul, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: she was telling a story about running into Meek Mill
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and Nicki minaj Here's what she said. Meek got upset
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: about someone trying to take a picture of them in restaurant.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, it's Nicki Minaje, the biggest rapper of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: all time at the time, and Meek Mills like they're
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a hot celebrity rap couple, and of course someone's gonna
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: try to take a picture, and he like made a scene.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I remember feeling pretty like kind of bad Nicki. She
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: was like yo, okay, port nick She was trying to
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: control her guy like just chill, just chill, and he
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: was just like I think and we were one table over.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It was like super uncomfortable. What did she say that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: was bad? The part where she said Nikki was I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: guess the hottest And then she said at that time, Oh,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I saw when this first happened,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, the barbs are going to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: be mad. I didn't hear that, util you just said it,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and that's what they were mad about. And she wasn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: trying to insult Nicki Minaj. No, it's jay Z who
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: said before that you're you're you're only going to be
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: like that white hot artist once. You know what I'm saying,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you can always be consistently hot. But that that that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: time when this year a moment like you know, that's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that's a few years were sending out death threats. Listen
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to what Claudia had to say, Yeah, doing a little
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: death threats and the you know, i'most spit on you
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: when I see you because you talked about Meek Mills
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and I found you was trying to shade her in
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: your compliment Claudia, you can definitely tell her story because
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it's her story to tell, But what was the context?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: What was the reason she was She was talking about
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Meek Mill and how he was a little acting out.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So in the course of the story, she's talking about
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: seeing Nikki and Meek out together and how Meek was
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: really upset and kind of embarrassing Nikki. So that was it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: She wasn't trying to insult Nicki Minaj, but they took
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it that way, all right. Natri is going to be
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: co lead opposite Eve in a new ABC show that
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: ABC hour long pilot is called Queens. So it's four
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: strange and out of touch women and their forties reuniting
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for a chance to recapture their fame and regain the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: swagger they had as the Nasty Bitches. It was a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: group in the nineties that made them legends in the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: hip hop. Well, well, so what she's not gonna be
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: on Power Normal? She is still they said, she is
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: still going to be. She's no longer a series regular. Yep.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Sound to me like some mighty character might be getting
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: killed off, But she is. They said, gonna reprise her
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: role in some fashion down the road. So I don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: know what's happening on the next season. Of course, they're
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: not going to tell you because they're shooting the new
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: season of Goals and now I believe, so we shall see.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But so congratulations to my girl Natri. Also, Tyler Perry
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: has another drama that's going to be a BT plus
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and it's called All the Queen's Men, and that's going
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to follow the female owner of an upscale strip club
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta who is savvy and charming. They said they're
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: going to be shooting that in Georgia and Atlanta. Okay,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: All right, Britney Spears. Her mom has denied calling Columbus
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: short the N word. Now, he had done an interview
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and he was talking about the incident that happened. He
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: was a backup dancer for Britney Spears, by the way,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and he had choreographed her tour back in two thousand
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and four. He was on Jazzy Bell's YouTube show Inside
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Hollywood earlier this month and he said this, like, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't shocked when it happened. Look where they're from. They're
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: from a Louisiana. Just because they're in Hollywood, you know
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: they have black bodyguards. Don't mean that they don't behind
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: closed doors use that word. And the way it came
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: out was so effortless. Did you ever felt that Britney
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Spears was racist? Well after that, I felt like maybe
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: she was using me to piss them off for some reason.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. No, I think she is a
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: really sweet person that was toward tormented. I liking it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: to like Princess Diana, she was the pop princess of
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this one of the world. Yeah, I just pulled it
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: up on us Weekly, you know. Her mom replied, I know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I got it right here. Okay, she said, nigga, please,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I would never no. Her mom, Lynn Spears denied it,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and she said, I want to be very clear, those
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: terrible words are not remotely in my vocabulary. She said
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that to The New York Post, page six. I would
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: never say that to anyone, much less my daughter. Ever.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: He has it in his book too, by the way.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: All right, well that is your rumor report. All right,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: now we got FROMT page News. Next we'll be talking about. Yes,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: let's talk about this is George Floyd Police Reform bill.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: House Democrats have reintroduced that bill finally. All right, we'll
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Billy Jean, Billy Jean morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Guee,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. Let's getting
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: too front page News where we're starting easy. Oh, I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to clarify something earlier. I know Charlomagne had a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: question about the minimum wage and the COVID relief bill. Well,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: they had ruled against even putting that in the bill
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: for COVID relief. That's why it's not in it. It's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: not that it didn't pass, it's just that they ruled
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: that they couldn't put it in the actual COVID relief
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: package that bill. They'll have to do that separately. So
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that's why it's not there. It's not that it was
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: voted on all right now. House Democrats also reintroduced policing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: legislation that is named in honor of George Floyd, the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: George Floyd Justice and Policing Act of twenty twenty one.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: That's what the bill is called. They want to overhaul
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: qualified immunity for law enforcement and prohibitions on racial profiling
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: on the part of law enforcement, and a ban on
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: no knock warrants and federal drug cases. They could vote
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: on this proposal as soon as next week. Yeah, finally,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the George Floyd Policing Act, making weed legal,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: decriminalizing weed, whatever it is. Those are some things I thought,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know, they would have knocked out of the park asap,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: because those are things that they actually were running on.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You know, those were reasons they were telling us we
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: should vote if you want to George Floyd Policing Act,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: if you want you know, marijuana legal, vote Democrat. So
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: they should have knocked that out of the park early,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: gets done. Next week. Joe Biden posted on Twitter, I'm
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: pleased at the House, but vote next week on the
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. I encourage the House
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to pass it following Senate consideration. I hope to be
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: able to sign it into law. A landmark police to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: perform worm bill. So I know he came in and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: did all these things immediately, but the main thing is
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you want to make sure that it becomes an actual
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: law so that it's not something the next president can overturn.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: All right, now, let's discuss this supposed object that could
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: have been a UFO. The FBI is looking into an
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: encounter with the UFO that was in flying over New Mexico.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: That flight was American Airlines headed to Phoenix from Cincinnati.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Here is what they said, Abby targets up here. We
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: just had stuff to go right over the top of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: us that I hate to say, this looked like a
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: long celindrical object that almost looked like a cruise muscial
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: type of think, moving really fast but ent right over
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the top of the will listen, it's time, I mean listen, man.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: You know you know I'm an avid believer and extraterrestrial
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: simply because you cannot look at this planet Earth and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: look at all the diversity of life on this Earth
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and think that the universe is not as diverse. I mean,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you got humans here and fish and animals, birds in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the sky, all types of stuff. You think that the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: universe is not as diverse? Come on, you think we're
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the smartest life forms and all of these galaxies? Please?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Did you have an incident? Also, I've definitely seen the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: UFO before. So are in third grade? Now? You said
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: something somebody abducted you. I've been abducted before as well. Right,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: how did you skip over that? But talk about this?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I mean I've had a bunch of actually actually wrote
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a book called Black Privilege, Opportunity Comes to those who creatives,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: some New yng Times bestseller. I you know, detail these
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: experiences in death. But they said you had two holes
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: in your had two scars on both shins. They were
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: in the exact same place, they were the exact same length,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: woke up, woke up in them in the morning with
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: them there. That was recently though, that was in the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: past five years, five six years. Absolutely, But you know what,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: but listen, I see the looks on your face. I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: can't wait to see the looks on your face when
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: y'all realized aliens are real. Extra trust is real, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: they're looking at us like we were aliens the whole time.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: They're gonna look at you and be like, whatever that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: is on your face isn't natural study. You've been studying
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: humans for years. That that that that black stuff on
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: your face, that doesn't come naturally. Shout to Kevin Hart,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: shout the college shot. But you, my brothers, you want
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: everybody to get a Beijing conspiracy shot. Carter, I can't
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: see my brothers. God, what are we going? What are
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: we going into next? Gracious? Let's him die in peace,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: my brod that when we come back, doctor Carr Hart
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: will be joining it. That's a good transition. Why from
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: one thing to that? Go ahead, that doctor Carl Hard
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: he um. I guess he's an avid heroine music. I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: guess it's a good transition because it beat me up, Scottie,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? He gets hot right off heroin. Yeah, okay.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: The book out called drug Use for Growing Ups, Chasing
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Liberty in the Land of Fear, And don't just call
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: him a drug user. He's a professor of neuroscience, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: psychology at Columbia University. He did an aviad drug user.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: That he's a professor at Columbia University. And by the way,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: he's the first line in his book is I'm like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: he says, like, I'm I'm an avid drug user. Yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I'm an unapologetic drug use. That I don't want to
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: just define him as just that though, like he's just
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a regular just you know, he studies it. But just
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the way he said, he's doctor Carhard, he's an avid
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: drug user. Coming up next, he's he's an aviad drug user.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: That that's what he tells. But I'm saying what makes
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: him qualified to write a book is he's also a
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: neuroscientist and he's known for his research on drug abuse
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and drug addiction. There we go, however you want to
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: say it. He's an avid drug user that teachers at
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Columbia University. We're gonna talk to him next, y'all want
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to put it out there, all right, he's a heroin user.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him. It's a breakfast club corning.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: What the breakfast club? We got a special us in
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the building today. Yes, indeed, doctor Carl Hard, Columbia University professor. Welcome, sir,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Good morning, sir. Tell them
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about yourself. I'm a professor at Columbia.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I also teach, I mean work at the New York
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: State Psychiatric Institute, where I'm a research scientist. I've been
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: doing that for about twenty five years. Before that, I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: was at Yale, and before that, I was at the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: University of California, San Francisco. That we talked about you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: earlier this week because you were all over the news,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: got a book out, and you were talking that you
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you are an admitted heroin user. We'll get to the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: book first. The book, it was all over the news
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and I saw you on that crack Um documentary. Yeah,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I saw him on that crack Like It's great. It's great.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You should watch it if you guys hadn't seen it yet.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: But the book is called drug Used for Growing Ups,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear. It's explaining that title.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: The real action is in the subtitle Chasing Liberty in
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the Land of Fear. I used drugs as a topic
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to explore our own liberty. I'm a drug expert, so
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I use drugs and I was trying to point out
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to people that the Declaration of Independence, for example, guarantees
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: all of us three birthrights, life, liberty, and the pursuit
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of happiness as long as you don't mess with anybody
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: else's ability to do the same. Now, what that means
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: is that you can live your life however you choose.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And I was using drugs as a topic. It's like,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: why should people care what you put in your body
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: as long as you are a good person. And so
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: in exploring this topic this past week, I realized that
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm an example of how moralistic we are. Regardless of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: what kind of person you are, people will attack you
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: if you engage in certain behaviors that have been deemed evil.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Whether there was a time when homosexuality was the case,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: there was a time when black people were being attacked
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: for just being black. Now, drugs, crack, or heroine is
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the evil thing to engage in because those things hurt people,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: including the person using them. You know what I mean?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: A great question. So I didn't ask a question, but well,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I was trying to save you, right, because on the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: one hand, you should know that heroin is a medication
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: that is approved for treatment. Heroin and morphine are essentially
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the same drug. Point is is that heroin is a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: perfectly good pain reliever. It also induces euphoria and a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: wide range of effects that we desire, like pleasure. So
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: when you say that it doesn't harm you, certainly it
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: can harm you. If people overdo it and they don't
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing, Yeah, they certainly can be harmed,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: just like when you drive a car. But is it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: addictive though it is heroin addictive? Is heroin addictive? Certainly
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: can be addictive. You drink alcohol, not really well, people
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: drink alcohol. Alcohol is addictive. In my book, I'm trying
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to help people to understand what makes things addictive, not
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the substance itself. Because as much as seventy five the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: people who use heroin are not addicted, they don't have
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: any problem. When you see this, you say, if most
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: of the people who use that drug, or any other
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: drug for that matter, are not addicted, then you have
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to look beyond the drug itself. And in this book,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell people what those factors are that
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: increases someone's likelihood of becoming addicted. I'm fascinating body's conversation.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: What do you what are your drug the choice? What
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: are my drugs of choice? Yeah, so like that kind
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: of question. For example, it's like saying, what's your favorite
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: sexual position. It's a private thing. Well, no, you put
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it in the book. You said you do heroin. You
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: said you do hero No, no no, no, Hello. I put
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of things in the book. I said that
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I have done heroin. For example, like in the past
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: week the media, I think it's been said I do
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: heroin every day, I inject and so forth. As it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: just untrue. You know, we're in a pandemic. How can
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I get heroin in this pandemic? At least I can't,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And any heroine I ever use was pharmaceutically grade heroin.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I don't do drugs at are off the street. That's stupid.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I published Brooklyn or the Bronx. United States
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: ain't the only country, you know. I travel a lot
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: in this book. I travel to five different continents, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: heroin is available on pharmaceutical grade in many of these
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: countries in which I travel too. So people they have
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: this idea of someone who uses heroin as some poor
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: soul who is injecting the drug and is a slave
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to the drug and they think that heroin is the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: reason for that person's problem, because that person definitely exists,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: but that the person's problem is not so much heroin
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: as everything else, Like the person might have co occurring
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: psychiatric illnesses, the person might have had some traumatic stuff
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: that's happened to their life. Can I ask you a question? Absolutely.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I always have people say, well, I'm chasing that high
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I got the first time that I use it? Is
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that a real thing? Because I've heard so many people
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: say that on documentaries. Yeah, I know, because we are
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: willing to accept that, right, Um, it's certainly true. Like
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: just think of the first time you enjoyed an orgasm.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: It's like it was amazing for me the first time.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, am I chasing the first time I had
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: an orgasm? No, of course not. But aldough I drink
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that feeling. I like that orgasm can't kill me? It
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: what orgasm can't kill me? You certainly can't get kill
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I mean you think about sexual even translated the diseases
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: and and so forth. Again, the title of the book
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: is drug used for grown Ups. I'm trying to have
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a grown up conversation about drugs, and that's why. But
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: That's why we're asking because you know, we don't know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like for instant, would you consider yourself addicted to heroin?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Or when is the last time you use heroin more
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: than a year ago? I don't know, Okay, but this
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: is the thing. Your press makes it seem like you
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: use it every morning, like you poppy, click open the
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: fireplace and get me that. But that's why we have
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you here. I want you to know you we're not
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: We're not judging. You were bringing you here to have
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the conversation. Trust me. I appreciate it and I know it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: What is the message you're trying to get across? Drug
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: use for grown ups? All right? So you all know
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: as At Yams, right, yes? And you know he died
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: from what was termed a drug overdose, right Yes. When
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that brother died, his mom contacted me and she gave
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: me his toxicology to report and showed me what was
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: in the system. And it appears that he may have
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: died from a combination of opioids and other sedatives. Now,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: for years, I have been writing that if you're going
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: to use opioids, don't combine it with other sedatives like alcohol.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: People like promethazine, don't combine your opioids with those drugs
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because it increases the likelihood of respiratory depression. So I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: made a promise to her that I would do everything
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I could to educate the public about this. And that's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: one of the main messages from the book. And this
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: is the message that the New York Post does not say.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And that's why I am. It upsets me so much
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: when I have nothing but love and can passion and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: people who are attacking me. Yeah, I'm not gonna to watch.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm watching your body language and I see you shaking.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, is he going through withdrawals? He upset
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: about a break man? Come on, man, you know I'm
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: set clearly. Yeah, you know. It's like, first of all,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I have too much respect for you, too much respect
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: for you, and too much respect for you not to
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: come here and be correct. All right. We have more
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: with doctor Carhart when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Come on, everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club. We have doctor car Hart,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: were still kicking it with him. Would you want your
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: children to indulge it in drug use? Because you know
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: growing up, I see you from Miami, from a poverty
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: stricken area. You've you sold drugs, you use drugs as
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a kid. You're engaged in petty crimes. But you know
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: one thing growing up, the first thing your parents say
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is don't use drugs. Would you advise your kids to
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: use drugs? And tell your kids about using drugs. It's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: like saying, would you advise your kids to have sex? Right?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: You know, sex the correlations because everybody I hope has
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: had sex. But I'm trying to marry. Well, I'll tell
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you and the kids are getting married, and sex it's pleasurable.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So when you said, would you advise your kids to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: engage in drugs? And all wouldn't advise them. But that's
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: not my concern whether they do it or now. My
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: concern is keeping them safe. So my kids telling them
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: where a condom exactly, exactly, the street exactly. Because the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: most dangerous thing about drugs to most people who are
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: black and brown is not the drugs, it's the police.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I would really tell people don't.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: But I was in it sometimes to know what's in it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: But you tell your kids don't use drugs, like I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: tell my kids don't use your don't I'm not going
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: to tell them go to the store where you know
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: what's in the drug. I'm just saying, don't use it
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: at all. People used to be like that about marijuana too,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: basically that you don't some weird it's terrible. Now it's illegal.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I'm Can we come back to your point please. The
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: point you made was if we don't know what's in
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: these substances on the street, you're absolutely right. So the
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: country says we're in an opioid crisis, one thing that
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: is true. We certainly have had a number of overdoses.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And one of the main reasons that people are overdosing
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: is because they get tainted drug. They think that they
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: may have something like heroin or oxycodone, when in fact
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: they have fentanyl. Fentanyl is a lot more potent than
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: heroin or oxycodone. That means that a smaller amount of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: that drug is enough and sometimes cases to kill you.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: And we can solve that problem, just like they did
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: in places like Spain, Portugal and the Netherlands, Austria. They
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: have these centers where you can submit small amounts of
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: your drug and you can have a test it and
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: get a chemical print out of what's contained in your drug,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: and that way you know, if some contaminant that's dangerous
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: is in your drug, don't take it. Have you ever
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: tried anything else to deal with whatever trauma makes this
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: than you? Because so many folks turn to drugs when
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: they have pain. Have you tried any other methods? Of course?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I love comedy, you know, I go see shows.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: There are a number of ways that we deal with
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: unpleasant things in our lives, and I would never tell
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: somebody to turn to drugs to deal with trauma or
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: even try. Wait wait, wait, I'm talking about heroin. I'm
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: talking about crack, I'm talking about meth. I'm talking about cocaine.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I ain't talking about Iowa scar trooms and need and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: stuff like. First of all, to be clear, I am
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: not telling anybody to do drugs. I don't have to.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: People will seek out drugs. My job is to try
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and help people do this activity as safely as possible
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: if you're going to do it. So there's notion that
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I'm somehow promoting drugs. The first sentence in my author's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: note is that this book is not promoting drugs. That's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: not what I do. I do know when people say
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you have an addictive personality, is that a real thing?
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Because they feel like, you know, you said a certain
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: percentage of people will have issues with addiction and some
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: people won't, But how do you know? Yeah, so this
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: notion of an addictive personality is myth. Now, it is
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: true that some people will be more likely to become
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: addicted than other people, and some of those things I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: try to lay out earlier. If you have co occurring
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: psychiatric illnesses and your parents, if your parents are addicts,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: is that No, there's no real evidence that says like
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: your genetics will determine whether you become addicted, Although that's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: a popular sort of saying and in science we are
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: still investigating it, but the evidence is very weak. But
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: also consider this. Just think about people who have unrealistic
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: expectations placed on them because they are supporting their families,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: their friends, they're supporting all of these people, and they
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: have to perform night in, night out, and they have
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to do all of these kinds of things. Those sort
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: of unrealistic expectations placed on them also increases the likelihood
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that these people too will become addicted. So that's why
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you tell them go to therapy, tell them take up meditation,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: tell them go do yoga. I'm not gonna tell them
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: running do heroin. Well, I guess for me, man, it's
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I've seen so many bad examples of heroin users. You
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, crackheads. I've never seen any functioning
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: heroin users are functioning crack addicts. And what are you
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: looking at once? You know? I mean I good effects
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of heroin? Like you always hear the bad effects of
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: her when you hear liver and kinney disease, you see
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: deteriorating the brain cells. You hear all these things, like,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: what's the good effects of her? Like, what's what's something
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: good about it? Okay, So in twenty fifteen, I went
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: to Switzerland and I worked in a heroin clinic where
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: people who are actually a heroin addicted. They received heroin
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: twice a day every day. Most of those people are employed,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: all of them have housing. Most of them are happy
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: their health improved because they don't know they no longer
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: have to be out on the street looking for heroin,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and they have no interest in stopping using their hero
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and they are productive members of their society. That's all good.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: That's what we want from people, right, But what about
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: it on the body though, you know, Yeah, if I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: don't drink this water, I'm not gonna go. You know,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: some of my mother's vc are to make money to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: get the water. Yeah, I win it. If it's addictive,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I'm doing whatever it takes because I need that hit. Yeah. So,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like that story that you're telling is like an extreme anecdote.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Certainly you can find that person. But that's something up. No, no,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: hold not. I'm from the hood. I started studying drugs
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: because of the whole crack era. You know, I believe
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: crack was destroying my community, just like everybody else, the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: whole New Jack City thing. You know, I believed all
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But the problem is it's that
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I misattributed what was going on with those people. I
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: thought it was the drug, when in fact it was
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: all these other things like that. Right on. So this
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: is true. People are do experience problems, but don't get
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: it twisted. When most of the people who are using
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: heroin something like heroin, they're not gonna tell you because
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of all of this negative judgment. Of course, the ones
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: who are functioning well, they're not gonna say so the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: only ones that you see are the ones who are
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: contrite and they are repentant because they want your help
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and they know that's the only story that you will accept.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: And so what I'm trying to do in the book
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: is to show people that that story is actually killing people,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: because people are less likely to seek help when they
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: need it, and we are less likely to implement the
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: programs that we need to help people. I'm glad you
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: said that because I agree with you when you say
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: drugs should be legal. Whenever I see people get locked
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: up for you know, possession of crack or possession of
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: heroin cocama, like, don't send them to jail, send them
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to rehab, provide them with opportunities, give them treatments. That's
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: what I thought your stance was. Yeah, yeah, because that's easy.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: That's easy. I mean, that's what it. Gonnas was right. Well,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I'm arguing that we should regulate all these drugs. That way,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: we'll have quality control, we'll have better education, all of that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: But if you argue that that respective, you have to
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: understand that we have exaggerated the harmful effects of drugs.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: And in this book, I'm showing people how that's a
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: tough that's a tough line to say, doctor Carr, that
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: we've exaggerated the harmful effects of drugs. Have you seen
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: what happens the crack addicted people, herold addicted people, What
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: happens to their families, what happens to the communities that
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: exist with individuals like that? Like, that's kind of hard
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to say we're exaggerating. We tell everybody that bullet story
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: about crack, and that story is imprisoning us. It prevents
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: us from looking at deeper what was going on. Oh,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: crack destroyed the community, and that's hold on, let me
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: explain highest rates of unemployment. For example, we're in nineteen
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: eighty two. Crack didn't appear until late nineteen eighty five
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: in most places in the country. Murder, we talk about
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: murder rates. We had a peak spike in murder in
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty again cracked in the period of nineteen eighty five,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and then we had another spike in ninety one. And
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: sure it might have had something to do with the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: crack sort of markets being developed, but not the pharmacological
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: effects of the drug. Like we tell people, that's that's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm saying that we just need to reevaluate.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: But it's developed. The story is developed more in the books,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: so I really encourage people to read the book. They
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: don't move. We got more with Doctor Carhart. When we
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: come back. It's the Breakfast Club coming morning. Everybody is
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: DJ Envy, Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we are the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Doctor carl Hart.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: You talk about you haven't used heroin in over a
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: year and a half. Yes, Um, of course, the news
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: made it seem like you use it every day. So
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: what gets you to the point where you have to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: use heroin like it? Is it socially? Is it something
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: going on in your life? Is it just hanging out
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: with the boys or you made it sound like smoking
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a cigarete let. You said better than doing the line
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: is what they do. You've also talked about the withdrawal
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that you have to go through from that too, which
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: is not easy. Right, So I'll answer this question. So
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: one of the things that happens with heroin as well
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: as some other drugs. Think of antidepressants in the same way.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: If you take heroin consecutively for weeks or months, and
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: then you abruptly discontinue. Your body has grown accustomed to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: the drug being in it, and so as a result,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: when you abruptly discontinue it, you get withdrawal effects, and
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: these withdrawal effects can be unpleasant. With alcohol. However, when
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: you do this with alcohol, you might die. But whereas
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: with heroin, you can't really die from heroin withdrawal, but
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: with alcohol withdrawal you can die. So what got you
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: to the point where you have to use heroin if
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you don't use it every day? Like? What is that?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Is it just socially recollection? So I study drugs, right,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and so I want to know everything about every aspect
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: of what I study. So you used every drug before
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: us to study? Damn near everyone? Have you? Certainly everyone
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that you probably have heard of? That heroin? Well, you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't particularly like smoking drugs. You know,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I work out every day, so I like to make
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: sure my lungs are good, and so I don't inject. No,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I never inject. I mean, I'm back, I'm vain too.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I don't want people looking at me. You don't smoke
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and you don't inject house Oh you take it orally? Still? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So, um,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I wanted to know about every aspect of what I do,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and part of that is to actually know something about
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the effects. Like if I would have just kind of
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: believed the narrative, I would believe that heroin wasn't the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: most addictive thing that one could do, and one hit
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: or two hits you're addicted. Just it's just simply not true.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: But if you getting to the point where you have
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you're going through withdrawals, you've probably done too much. You're
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: probably abusing it. So somebody who has been on an
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: antidepressant and then they abruptly discontinue and now they have withdrawal,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: we're saying what you were doing about taking that you
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: can abuse with antidepress as well. That's that's approve of fact.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: But you've been taking it to feel better, and then
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: you can still abuse it. Certainly you can abuse it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: But you're saying it's wrong. I mean this, this is
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: not inherently wrong. These are just inert substances. We as
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: humans place all this morality and judgment on this, and
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: that's part of the problem. And my fear is like
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: somebody hearing this or reading your book and think it's okay, well,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: it's okay. The doctor said it's okay to use drugs
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: every once in a while. He said, it's not as
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: it's not bad for me to use drugs. It's just
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: as bad as as having you know, I can die
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the same way from having an orgasm. That's my fear.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: When kids hear that, people hear that. Wait, did I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: say what you just said? That's what I felt like.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't say, Well, I just want to know what
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: your message is. Just clear and Plaine, what are you
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: trying to get across in drug used for growing up?
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell people, for example, people who are
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: using opioids. I'm trying to say, the risk is really
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: increased when you use street drugs and not you don't
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: know what's in it. See if you can get attested.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: It's important to know what's in your substance. Uh and so.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm saying to government officials, if you really cared
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: about your population, you would have these drug checking facilities
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: where people can submit small samples of their drugs and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: have them tested for purity, and then we will know
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: if it contains any contaminants. I don't think I disagree
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: with any of that, but I want to know why
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: not just spend the money and resources on helping people
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: get clean and providing better opportunities for people and people
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: are dealing with some type of real trauma, you know,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: giving them other methods instead of drug use, because out
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: of ten when people are on drugs, it's not for recreation.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: They're doing it because they're gonna do some type of trauma.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: And what he said, you can't go to CVS to
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: go buy your hero and you can't say, okay, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: let me go get a you know, some multious fruit
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: snacks and let me get the side of heroin. You
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: can't buy it. So you're telling people to test it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: They're getting it from dealers because you can't buy right,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: that's right. So if you're going to get it from
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: dealers and so forth, make sure you can find some
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: way to get attested. At what point do you know
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: you have a problem? At what point do you know? Yeah? Like,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: how many times? There's too many times? Don't thank you man,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: because we haven't talked about that. We just talked about
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the term addiction. So that's a great point. So when
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm talking about the term addiction, I'm
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: really talking about the American Psychiatric Association sort of definition,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and that is when people have psychosocial disruptions and they're functioning.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: That is, they are failing to meet these major obligations,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: like they don't come to work, they don't go to school,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: they're not engaging in family sort of functions or events
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: that are important. They're failing all of these sort of obligations.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: And the person themselves are disturbed about not meeting these
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: obligations because if you miss work or you're missing appointments
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: because you're at home watching porn. They said, that's the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: level too, when you know you're addicted dull. Yeah, yeah,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I'm comparing a lot of stuff to heroin and crack.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: That is really some false equipment. Yeah, I agree, till me.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Why man, because I think because I could do heroin
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: once today for the first time, I could do something
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: today right and literally blow off my family for the
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: day that one time I blew off my family's appointments,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Does that mean I'm irresponsible to that? I mean I
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: have a problem. No, No, I mean you are so successful,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: all of you, all the likelihood of that happening, I'll
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: actually stake my life on what if it does no
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: old man. I'm just saying, the likelihood of that happening
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: is so low. I mean, you you you're abscribing these
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: magical properties to heroin that just don't do it once
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: and die. Well if you do that, because that's certainly
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a possibility, right, that's certainly especially because you don't know
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: what's in it and there's no way to tell, right,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and you don't know what you're doing. And I don't
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: think you will do that because you have demonstrated all
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: of this responsibility in your life. What about you said
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: you've been using heroin for the past five years is
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: what I read. Yeah, so when did you first start?
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Like when didst did you first ever take or hit
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a heroin? And why? It might have been now maybe
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: two two thousand and fifteen. Like I said, I wanted
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: to know every aspect about what I do, and it
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: was pharmaceutical grade, not in this country, in a country
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: where drugs are decriminalized. You did e strictly for research purposes. Yeah, Yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: because I wanted to know to make you feel when
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: you when you first took there first hit, it was
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: nice and euphoric, chilled, anxiety melts away, scared you wasn't nervous.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: You didn't think I might die. So I know what
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I'm doing one and I know it's pure, and I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: know not to take a large dose oftentimes, like like
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: right now, we are all encouraged to get the COVID vaccine,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: and we all will. But you know, the people who
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: are getting the vaccine know a lot less about that
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: than I know about heroin. So you know, so it's
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: it's more risky for me to take the vaccine than
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: it is for me to take heroin. That I know
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the purity and I know the dose, that's not a
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: risky proposition for me. The average person doesn't have that knowledge.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: You can do these things safely because you've studied it
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: for thirty years. You know it's pierre, you know where
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you're getting it from. You know how much to take.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: The average person's coming but you're coming from a place.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: You're coming from a place of privilege, because there's plenty
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: of people in point disenfranchise areas who are going to
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: who can do heroin or any of these drugs, and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: they will get addicted. They're not doing it for rest.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: They don't have the luxury of doing it for research purposes.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: They're truly trying to escape something. See that. That's why
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I wrote the book. I wrote the book to try
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: to help keep those people safe who will do this anyway.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had a bad experience when you took anything,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: tried something? I'm sure, Well I'll tell you. Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: So there was a time when I wanted to know
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: what opioid withdrawal was like. So I talked some opioids
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: for consecutive weeks and abruptly discontinued and I had withdrawal.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I planned it like so it would happen the night
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: before a big talk, so I could say that, you know,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: this is no big deal, so you're able to quit
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: cold turkey? Oh yeah, yeah I did. That's not everybody
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: story either, though. You know there are people who use
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a lot more than I did in this little experiment,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: and they would have a lot more difficult time. You're
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: absolutely right, the withdrawal would have been a lot worse.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: But I wasn't trying to have the worst withdrawal I
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: could have. All I wanted to do was experience it,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: and so I could see what it was like for myself.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: That's experience. The worst of that experience was the adapt
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: abdominal pain. It felt like it was stabbing that radiated
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: throughout my body, and I have no interest in going
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: through opioid withdrawal again. Do you enjoy drugs, doctor Carhart?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Do you enjoy drugs? Some drugs? I do? You know?
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: That's otherwise, why would I engage in an activity that
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I don't enjoy. Well, let's bring this home. I agree
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: on the fact that drugs should be legal. I don't
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: think people should be going to jail when they have
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: an actual problem, you know, I agree with that. But
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: as far as like just encouraging people to do it
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: recreationally just because they're gonna do it anyway, I'd rather
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: personally get them some treatment. Personally, I rather think he
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: was saying that if people who are using it to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: be responsible not but he does. I would rather get
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: those people from treatment as opposed to encouraging them to just,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: you know, creating space. Man, you ain't gonna get an
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: argument for me when you're talking about treatment. Man, I mean,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, but that ain't what I'm saying. I'm
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: not saying, yo, you should go out and do this.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm I'm I'm saying that there
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: are people doing this and how can I, as a
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: responsible professional, help enhance the safe Absolutely, and I would,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I would, And I'm saying I would rather get those
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: same people some help. I'd rather get them clean well,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: provide them opportunity as opposed to providing a safe space
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: for them to continue to do drink well. You know,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I have tried that too, and I mean with relatives
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and friends, and they basically said, like it's out to
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: hear you, pedantic ass, you know, and so uh now
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I can't. They don't even talk to me. So there's
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: no way I can even help because you know, they're
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: as adults, people will do what they're going to do.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: And so I've learned as a parent, you know, my
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: number one goal is to get my kids home right,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: and so they will do their thing, and I have
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: to figure out how to help them do their thing
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: as safely as possible and how to make sure they
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: are good people or Doctor car Hart, we appreciate you
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: for joining us this morning, telling the title of your
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: book on More Time Please Drug Used for grown Ups,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Chasing Liberty and the Land of Fear. It was a
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: great conversation. Thank you for having me I really appreciate it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I have no problem exchanging I did. Even if we
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: don't agree on everything, I really appreciate it. How you
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: don't know how much it mean. But don't you overdose
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: because I switch to God. If you overdose, I don't
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: gonna give you the greatest donkey the day I have
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: ever written in my life. Okay, yo, that's a bat.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you doctor Carhart for joining us.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Now let's get to the roumas. Let's talk Bobby's murder
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Listen.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Oh goshorts, it's reports club. Oh my god, what nothing?
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: No next, next hour, we're taking calls about doctor Carhart's interview.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, so you can get on the
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: phone lines right now eight hundred five, eight five, one
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: oh five on just your thoughts to the doctor. All
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: right now, Bobby Schmurder did his first interview since getting
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: out of prison, and he talked to GQ about what
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: he learned while he was in jail and what he's
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: going to be doing next. And he does, by the way,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: him and Rowdy Rebels still maintain their innocence on the
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: conspiracy charge. In particular, saying that they were trying to
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: link them to crimes they would otherwise have no connection with.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: They argue that if they were granted bail and allowed
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: to fight the case from the outside, they would have
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: won a trial. Now, Bobby Shmurder said his spirit is
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: always going to be up. He said, I used to
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: sleep next to people who had forty to life, people
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: who have been in there for thirty years and haven't laughed.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I'd have them crying all day. When you got good energy,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: no matter where you at, you can bring a smile
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: to someone's face. And he also said, I'm not saying
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: jail is not going to break anybody, but usually jail
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I don't really care about. Even though I'm locked up
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: all the time, I still lived good in jail since
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I was twelve. He said he knows how to survive.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: You get the best treatment in jail when you get
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: a job. When a shower five times a week, and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: said at three, get a job, eat better, get a job,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: more phone time, get a job. But he said they
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: kept firing him when they realized he was just doing
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: it to stay on the phone. He also talks about
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: his lowest time and the moment that broke him. He said,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a fight, or it wasn't solitary. It was
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a fan letter. He said. It was twenty sixteen. I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: was in the box. A six year old girl wrote
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: to me. She said I was her favorite rapper. That
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: just let me know the kids are watching me and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I have to be a role model. Suddenly being familiar
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: enough with jail to rise above it didn't mean so much.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: So he does take his career seriously, he said, he
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: didn't take it that seriously before until he went to jail,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: he said, and saw how the fans were loyal. He said,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I can't name a week that I didn't see at
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: least ten pieces of fan mail throughout the whole bid.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: So before he went to jail, he said, he just
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: was doing this money and bitches. He said, I ain't
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I was nineteen turning twenty, coming
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: out of East Flappish the nineties, one of the worst
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: neighborhoods in Brooklyn. You got a moment to sit down
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: and be still, and I think Ji about to save
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: this life exactly. Jail time saved his life, and I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be come out a better human because
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of it. I think so too. And as you know,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Quavo was there when he got out to pick him up,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, they talked about how they had instant
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: magic when they all first met. He said, whenever the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Megos came to New York City in twenty fourteen, they
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: made sure to link up a Bobby, like the night
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: at Powerhouse when Quavo said he met jay Z for
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: the first time backstage with Rowdy, so they all linked up.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: And I actually remember that. I remember that because I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: had to go into Megos dressing room to interview them
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: for something for MTV and MTV two, and then Bobby
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Him came in there. All right, now, let's talk about
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the Coming to Americas sequel. Are y'all ready for this?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: You guys saw it already, right, yeah, March fifth on
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. It's coming out. So they've been doing their
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: interviews now. Our sin of Yohall and Eddie Murphy said
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: they had a pack to never making Coming to America's sequel,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: but they did end up doing it. Here's what they
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: had to say. It took thirty years because we never
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: planned on doing it. We shook and said, let's never
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: do a sequel. But the movie kept following us, so
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: every time I would show him something, and then one
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: time when he finally decided we should do it, he
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: came up with the idea and I loved the idea,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: but the only thing I hated was he wanted Tracy
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Morgan to play his son. And I think Eddie and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Tracy look about the same age. But he Murphy. He's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy. So you have to you have to say
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: it easy, because I did it in joke for him.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I said, hey, maybe the third one, Morgan Freeman can
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: be your son. That didn't sound right. That wouldn't have
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: been it all right now. Ryan Kogler also had pitched
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy Coming to America's sequel with Michael B. Jordan
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and it and they talked about this with The New
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: York Times and he said before he directed Black Panther,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I met with him and he says, I want to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: do a Coming to America's sequel. That's what Eddie Murphy said.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: He said he had an idea from Michael B. Jordan
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: to play my son and he would be looking for
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: a wife. I was like, then the movie would be
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: about the son. It's not our characters. We already did that.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: It didn't come together. Yeah, I don't understand Eddie's reasoning
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: for telling people that he didn't like Ryan Coogler's idea.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan Coogler is one of the most brilliant
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: producers out here. And it actually wasn't just Ryan Coogler.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: It was Ryan Coogler and Aaron McGruder. You know Aaron McGruder,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: that that that wrote The Boondogs Black Jesus. So I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: don't understand what was his reasoning. What you think about
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the movie? What you mean, Well, I listen, we got
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: all send you on the show next week and I'll
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: talk about the movie after the movie come back, all right,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. Everybody to make that one decision.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of surprises, but I am gonna wat
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  Speaker 1: And that is your Room of Reporter made me feel good.
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  Speaker 1: I thought ill coming to America made me feel good.
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  Speaker 1: Cash your rumor report all right now, Shore giving that
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  Speaker 1: donk donkey of the day, it's going to Representative Marcus
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  Speaker 1: Evans Junior. We need him to come to the front
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  Speaker 1: of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to help carjackings in Chicago go down. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't like the way he's he's going about
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  Speaker 1: trying to do it. But we'll talk about it all right.
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  Speaker 1: And after the Donkey, of course, we'll take your calls.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be talking about doctor Carhart, who just tuned int, who
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  Speaker 1: just joined us, and we're talking about drug use. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk to him next night. It's the breakfast local
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  Speaker 1: Botter's time for Donkey other Day. I'm a Democrat, so
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: being Dunkey of the day is a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a mixed up. So like a dog the other day. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I've been called a lot in my twenty three years,
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  Speaker 1: like Donkey other day is a new wife. Yesh Donkey
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  Speaker 1: today for Friday, February twenty six. Goals of the Representative
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Evans Junior, a Democrat, who was introduced to bill
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  Speaker 1: that would amend the pre existing law banning certain video
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  Speaker 1: games from being sold to minors. Now, I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: video game fanatic at all, so I couldn't tell you
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  Speaker 1: why certain video games shouldn't be sold to minors. I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: do remember about a decade ago when the Supreme Court
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: was debating if violent video games should be sold to
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  Speaker 1: minors or not. And Representative Marcus Evans junior amendment is
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  Speaker 1: in that lane because he would ban the sale of
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  Speaker 1: games with subject matter including motor vehicle theft with a
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  Speaker 1: driver or passenger. President. Basically, he wants to get Grand
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  Speaker 1: Theft Auto to f out of here. Why because carjackings
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  Speaker 1: among young people have gone up in Chicago recently. Let's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: go to KTLAC W five for the report. Please Illinois
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  Speaker 1: State Representative Marcus Evans Junior, who introduced a bill which
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  Speaker 1: would ban the sale of popular video game Grand Theft Auto,
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  Speaker 1: amongst others, in response to a rise in carjackings in Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: People in government or parent groups are kind of looking
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  Speaker 1: for what I would say is a scapegoat to not
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  Speaker 1: deal with the real underlying issues of socio economic inequalities
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  Speaker 1: or mental health issues. I agree, I agree with whoever
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  Speaker 1: that woman was talking. Just now, let me tell lawmakers
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  Speaker 1: in Cargo something. Can kids be influenced by things? Absolutely? Music,
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  Speaker 1: video games, movies, other people? Of course, Do I think
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  Speaker 1: Grand Theft Auto is the reason carjackings of going up
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago? Hell No, I don't. Okay, It's like damn
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: lawmakers read the room. The reason crime is going up
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  Speaker 1: across the country, not just in Chicago. It is because
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  Speaker 1: the poor and disenfranchise communities which were already hurting, which
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: already lacked resources, which alread lacked opportunities. Those communities or
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  Speaker 1: even in worse shape now. So I'm looking at all
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: these news stories about the Illinois lawmakers seeking the banned
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  Speaker 1: Grand Theft Auto due to a rising carjacking carjackings, and
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  Speaker 1: it makes me shake my head and realize just how
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: much folks don't get it. See, we really live in
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: an era where people want symbolic change instead of real
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  Speaker 1: systemic change. Okay, Grand Theft Auto gets banned, then what
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  Speaker 1: tell me how is that going to empower and heal people?
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  Speaker 1: How is that going to provide opportunities to thrive? The
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: violence anywhere it is not going down if you don't
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  Speaker 1: provide access to jobs in housing, that's what people need,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: stable housing and amenities and commerce opportunities. Those are the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: investments that need to be made. You have to revitalize
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: neighborhood economies. Okay, markets, I'm not telling you anything. You
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: don't know. You know that, Okay, you should be advocating
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  Speaker 1: for equity focused legislation and policy. That's what people need,
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  Speaker 1: not bands of grand theft auto. Come on, Marcus, the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: wages are too low, right, There's a lack of quality healthcare,
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  Speaker 1: some standard housing, all right for kids who want to
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  Speaker 1: pursue higher education, they aren't able to because college tuition
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  Speaker 1: too damn high and rising. Those are the problems that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: most Americans facing. You know, black communities face them even more. Okay,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: f banning grand theft auto, raising minimum which the fifteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand an hour, all right, make college affordable for anyone
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  Speaker 1: who wants to attend. I require local government to provide
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  Speaker 1: healthcare and adequate housing for everybody, okay. Instead of banning
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  Speaker 1: grand theft auto, as the great Alicia Guards of Black
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  Speaker 1: Futures Lab says, if candidates lawmakers address the needs and
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  Speaker 1: concerns of black communities that were resulting dividends for all Americans.
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  Speaker 1: Markets if you address the real needs and concerns of
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  Speaker 1: the black communities in Chicago and the communities in Chicago
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  Speaker 1: that you need it, it will result in dividends for
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  Speaker 1: all of Illinois. Okay. I want this idea of banning
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  Speaker 1: grand theft auto to die. And instead of a cheat
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: code for unlimited guns lawm because in Chicago, she create
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  Speaker 1: a cheat code for unlimited funds to be invested in
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  Speaker 1: the communities that need them. That's how you slow down
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  Speaker 1: Carl Jackings and every other violent crime, not only in
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  Speaker 1: Chicago but across the country. Please uh, let Representative Marcus
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  Speaker 1: Evans Junior get the sweet times in the hammertones. Oh
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: now you are the doge the day, the dogee, oh
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  Speaker 1: the day. Ye all right, thank you for that today?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Can some I want one of y'all to do your
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: uncle Shaulttle favor. Can you send me up from church fans.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I want the old school church fans that I might
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  Speaker 1: used to use when she used to be in the
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  Speaker 1: pew fan in herself, because around ate something every morning
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: in this room for the past couple of months. That hot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh all right, well, thank you for that donky. Today,
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  Speaker 1: when we come back, let's open up the phone lines
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We're
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: talking doctor Karl Hart. Now he was on earlier. A
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: lot of people have different things to say about his
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: opinion on drug use and what he had to say
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: about drug use. People they have this idea of someone
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: who uses heroin and some poor soul who is injecting
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: the drug and it's a slave to the drug, and
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: they think that heroin is the reason for that person's problem.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: The person's problem is not so much heroin as everything else,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: like the person might have co occurring psychiatric illnesses. I
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: always say, people say, well, I'm chasing that high I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: got the first time that I use it is real,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: It's certainly true. Like just think of the first time
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  Speaker 1: you enjoyed and the orgasm. It's like it was amazing
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: for me the first time. It's like, am I chasing
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: the first time I had an orgasm? No, of course not,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: but old door, I don't that feeling. I like that
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: orgasm can't kill me. The orgasm can't kill me. You
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: certainly can't get kill all right, Well, let's open up
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  Speaker 1: the phone lines and eight hundred five A five one
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  Speaker 1: oh five one day, we're opening up the phone lines.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. We'll take your calls when we
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  Speaker 1: come back. It's the breakfast Club. Go morning, the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: It's topic time. Thus the phone called eight hundred five
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  Speaker 1: A five one oh five one to join it to
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  Speaker 1: the discussion with the breakfast club. Talk about it morning.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: are the breakfast clubs, So we're just opening up the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: phone lines talking about the doctor that called earlier talking
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: about drug use. What do you guys think? Star? What
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  Speaker 1: you ye? I mean? I understand, And he was stressing
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: that he was not telling people to use drugs. He
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: was saying, for people that do use drugs, they're gonna
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: do it anyway, just like a lot of people do
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: things you know you shouldn't do, but it does still
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  Speaker 1: have appens. So how do you make it safer for
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: people to do it? They didn't make me want to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: try drugs or want to use heroin or anything like that,
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  Speaker 1: but I understand that a lot of times people are
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: mixing different cocktails together of different drugs, and people are
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: also not knowing what they're taking because they're buying it
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  Speaker 1: off the street, so it just makes it more dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't sound like it to me. I mean, him
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  Speaker 1: saying that he used drugs and he wasn't addicted makes
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: it kind of seem like it's okay in what he said.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from a different school. I know there's some parents
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  Speaker 1: out there that be like, hey, my kids are gonna
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: drink anywhere I rather than drinking the house. I'm not
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: that parent. My parents weren't that parents. My parents were. No,
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  Speaker 1: you're not drinking, and you're not drinking in my house.
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  Speaker 1: And if I catch you drinking, I'm gonna bust your ass.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: That's the way I am. You're not drinking in my house.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Some parents allowed at Hey, if you're gonna drink your muthers,
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  Speaker 1: drink anywhere, my parents will let me drink with them.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: See that's your parents, not mine. Now that's how I feel.
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  Speaker 1: My thing is no, drug use is not good at all.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to promote it. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. I tried it, or use it. Or
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  Speaker 1: you can be in a walking heroin fiend. No, that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work, that doesn't that doesn't sound good to me.
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  Speaker 1: Don't use drugs. I don't want my kids they're drugs.
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  Speaker 1: It's bad. I don't want you to try it, even weed. Kids.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want them using any drugs. We're talking about heroin, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And here's the thing with
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  Speaker 1: doctor Carhart. I feel that all drugs should be decriminalized.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see people going to jail for addiction.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a problem with heroin, if you have
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: an addiction problem with crack, addiction problem with meth. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you should go to jail for that. You should,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get help. And I don't think we should
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: create safe spaces to do drugs. I think we should
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  Speaker 1: invest resources and the people going to rehab, people seeking treatment,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: and provide opportunities for them. You know, I'm a big
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: advocate for mental health and mindfulness, and there's a lot
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: of other ways to deal with your trauma other than
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: telling people to turn the drugs. But let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the phone lines. Hello, who's this Hi? This is Dana
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  Speaker 1: from for News Heza from the seven five seven? What
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  Speaker 1: were your thoughts? Um? I think that what he's saying
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  Speaker 1: is very irresponsible, um, because everybody doesn't have the luxury
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  Speaker 1: of getting their drugs from eating. What is he expecting
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  Speaker 1: people to go out here and buy heroin and take
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  Speaker 1: it to the police station and be like, hey, can
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: you touch my trugs? It's illegal? You know, So there
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  Speaker 1: is no safe way to do heroin here in America.
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  Speaker 1: And if that's the message that he's trying to put out,
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  Speaker 1: is that there is a safe way if the government
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  Speaker 1: puts certain things in place, and let that be the message.
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  Speaker 1: But don't go out here promoting that there's a safe
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  Speaker 1: way to do this in America, because not everybody who
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  Speaker 1: does drugs are doing them because their life is the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: goal and they're trying to escape their problems. A lot
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: of this starts out as just fun, you know, but
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: at parties and doing things, and so somebody may be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: listening to this guy right now thinking their life is fine,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: but they're curious about what he's saying, and they try
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: it and die that bad because the way he talks
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: and makes it seem like it's not that bad. But
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  Speaker 1: that's not the heroin out scene when I'll be when
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  Speaker 1: I'll be buying these cribs. And that's not how my
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: uncle od it was back But I told him that.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I told him that, you know, his his perspective was
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: coming from a real place of provoge. Hello, who's this
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: ain't Travis, what's going on? What do you think of
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the doctor? Man? I just want to say, I've had
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: fool when the first friends died from overdose in the
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: past year a year and a half, and I'm talking
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: about people that were very respectable people until they decided
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: to start using paying pills and here I went, and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: then they completely changed these people. What's the drug you started?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: They were no longer to save people that I knew
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: in love and respected. They lied, they cheated, they did
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: anything to get this wrong and and I just watched it.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: You know, over two years, they completely became somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: For him to say that it's not the drugs, that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: it's their personality had the vibe. Man, these drugs is
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: killing people. Thank you, bro Grey. Hello, who's this? I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: think it's Ashley from Jack and Little Florida nine four
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  Speaker 1: nine o four was happening and as I love you
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  Speaker 1: guys back. So what's your thoughts on the doctor that
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: called in from Florida? My thought is, guys, yo, are
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: so well dj n V. I know you have your
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: stands on the drug you can, Chalomagne, I know you're
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: with therapy. But he was trying to get out that
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: he's not promoting drugs. He's just saying for those who
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: are gonna quit against therapy altogether, especially our black community
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: who was against therapy, you just have to safely music.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Y'all didn't really let them talk until the end. Well,
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  Speaker 1: can I ask you a question, where's the safe space
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  Speaker 1: with people to do that? In Americaould you take your
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: drugs to the police station to have them tested? You know,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: that's why he said we should build some other countries
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: that different thoughts. You know, our country is our country.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: You're saying, you're seeing it work in other places, and
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: so something like that could be implemented here. Instead of
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: always trying to demonize these people who are addict and
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: calling them fiends and crackheads, I think we should I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: think instead of creating the safe spaces, we shouldn't invest
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: resources and the people going to rehab. We should invest
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: resources in the people seeking treatment and provide opportunities for them.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: But what do we do with the people who say no,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: our older generation is against all of that. Man, you
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: could do both. You could invest more money into that
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: and also have resources where if they are going to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: continue to do it, at least don't die from something
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: that's not what you think it is. Exact Man, I'm
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: not incurring nobody to do heroin. I'm not occouraging doesn't exactly.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: I'm so what about the people that are using it? Just?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's all you can do if they don't
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: want to get out, if they don't want to get help,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: prey for them. Yeah, I mean I want any leave them,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: but it's not going any well. You said just help them,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: they need help, But I don't want to encourage anybody
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  Speaker 1: else to get on her at all. All right, eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred five eight five one oh five one, let's talk
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: about it. It's a breakfast club. Good morning, call me
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: and your opinions to the breakfast club to come on
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: five one morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: the guy. We are the breakfast club with taking your
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: calls on the doctor that just called about drug use,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: doctor Carl hard he was up here, Yeah he's here.
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  Speaker 1: But like my opinion, I think that nobody should be
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: used in heroin, Like I understand that scenes. I think
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: they should be in cigarettes. If they're telling you cigarettes
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: causes cancer and cancer kills you, why are we allowing
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: people are smoking. I don't think people should eat only
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think people should eat red meat. The only
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: thing I agree with doctor Carl Hard on is that
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: drugs should be decriminalized. That should be the message, because
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see people going to jail because
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: they have addiction problems. Correct, is a level one carcinogen
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: and we sell that and eat it. I mean, if
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: something I think we can, if it's guaranteed that something
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: can kill you, like cigarettes, like heroin ken and it's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: so addictive. No, I'm not going to encourage nobody to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: ever use it and say it's okay or it's fine.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. But let's go to the phone lines. Hello,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: who's this Hey, good morning? What were your thoughts on
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: the doctor the car? I get I get it that
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: he said he wants the kids to come home. I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: get that part. Everybody's gonna try it, But I don't
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: agree with him when he said, oh go get it tested.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: How many attics you know we're going to be able
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: to go out there, boy, purchase your drugs and then
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: go get it tested. No, they want they fix. Then
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: they don't want to wait and try to get it
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: pursas they want it. Then I guess work in other countries.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: But Haroin is too much of a monster drug, y'all.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: This is Harold. That's something that helped me. Laughing, he said,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: how he quit opious just like that. That wasn't his drug.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: But I bet you he can't quit it, have one
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: just like that exactly said he hasn't taken it in
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: a year and a half. I don't believe him. No,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Well, thank you mama. Hello, who's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: this us? Hey Russell? What's what's your opinion on the doctor?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Doctor car Hard? That just checked him? Um? I think
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: the quest man, I think he just like old old
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: old juses, just trying to justify his ju because for
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: him to see to destroy our communities, and it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I've been around. I'm sixty one, I've been around. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen him just uh the boys coming home from Vietnam
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  Speaker 1: all messed uff and and uh the hall in the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: eighties besides Southside Jamaica. It's tore us apart. Man. But
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: for him to say that, Hello, who's this anonymous? Hey anonymous,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the doctor? Um? I felt
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  Speaker 1: that I understood what he was saying. I showed that
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  Speaker 1: there are functional drug users out here. And like I
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: told other guy at the port, I told him I'm
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: not a drug user, but I year around who who's
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  Speaker 1: you know? And I've been around people who you I
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  Speaker 1: hear that in your voice. Now I hear that eight
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  Speaker 1: four three, so I know you ain't lying, and yes
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: he's for three, but anyway, it's so. But what I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is, you know what I mean. I see people
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: who are judges, politicians, lawyers, doctors who fullhard Friday when
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: they get off work bullheard Saturday, and then my days
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: right back at work and doing their dream. So I've
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: seen something drug users. But then i'd also been decided
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: that y'all work for treeing, like the people who's coming
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: to their MoMA house seeing in the TV went all
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: of that TWA gets there high. So I see both sides.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: But it seemed like initially in his interview and seemed
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: like y'all were kind of going hard attacking him. But
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I felt what he was saying in with yawin things
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: also too. It's not just drugs, it's Harold Wing right,
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  Speaker 1: And I get that and see the thing. It's like, okay,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: you know me and I'm being a drug user. It's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: like I think the heroine. I think you're putting on
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: your arms, but like I have family members who fail
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: and they're like no, it's in like a bull form,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: now you know what I mean? Like where as these
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: kids out here pumping and posing stuff there, I'm pumping
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: heroin as still, So it's not even in a neuti
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: formal one told I've seen young people twenty year old
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: and they're saying like, oh, yeah, he's on heroin, And
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, in a way, like you look at them
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: and you can't even tell they're on herowin. But it's
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: like heroin has seen the form now, so when we
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: think of it, we're thinking of the form of you
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: putting you on your arm of girls. But eventually it
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: catches up. And last year actually was the highest opioid
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: overdose rate ever. But eventually that lifestyle catches up. And
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand anyone who's actually seen dopage, who's
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: actually seen heroin uses, what it does to a person,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: what it does to a community. I don't understand how
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: you can encourage anyone to do heroin. Yeah, Mine comes
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: from a different place. Mine comes from a close family
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: member that odd and died and I'll never get back
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: from drugs. Mine comes from a place of me investing
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: in real estate in Patterson in Atlantic City and walking
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: into these houses and seeing heroin addicts and fiends and
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: stuck and know that and having conversations with them and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: telling me that they can't get help, that they've tried,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: They've been to rehab so many different times, but they
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: just can't kick it. And they came from good families
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: and their families to try to save them all, you know,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again. But they got to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: stay in these areas because they got to buy their drugs.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: They got to be able to use their drugs. And
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: how sad that is. And I never would want my
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: family member, my child, never a friend or anybody on
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: something that's dependent where they're living in the slums, no heat,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: no air conditioner, you know, no water, no nothing, just
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: to get these drugs. Now I was paying my mother
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: had to deal with because her brother passed away from
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: the old d And I would never tell anybody, Oh,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: being a functional a drug user, it's okay, No, that's
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: my opinion. If y'all don't like it, that's me. I
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: don't want my kids, I don't want my family members.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody using those hardens. I know in
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: the future I'm gonna have a drink with my children.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: I know in the future I might even do. I'm
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: not smoking weak with my children. I ain't doing no heroin.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm smoking no crack, that's me.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing no coke. I'm not doing no hero
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: no crack. I'm not doing opioids. I'm not I'm not
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: doing none of that. That's for me. I'm not doing ecstasy.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: That's just me. I don't want to. That's me personally.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I see the effects of it on family and friends,
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  Speaker 1: and I just don't want to be The more of
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the story is, I do feel that all those drugs
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: should be decriminalized. I don't want to see people going
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: to jail for addiction, but I want to see people
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: get help. I don't want to create safe spaces so
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: they can do their drugs. We should invest resources in
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: the people going to rehab, seking treatment, and providing better
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: opportunities for them. I agree with that as well. I
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: don't understand how somebody that's addicted to heroin could get
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: locked up. If they're addicted to it, they get help.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we got rumors all the way. Yes,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: we are going to talk about a new group that
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars and Anderson pad Hat formed. All right, we'll
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: get into that. Next, It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: It's a breakfast club. We're like morning. Everybody is j Envy,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Good morning. What's happening? Okay, Yeah, talking to the mic, bro,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: are you gonna hear me? No? No, what's happening. Let's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: get to the rumors. Just's talking to music. This is
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: the Rumor Report with Angela Yee Breakfast Clubs. But here
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: is just a sampling of some things that are out today.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Bryson Tiller put out the Anniversary Deluxe album. Also, Chloe
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: and Halley gave out some mection music too with their
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: un Godly Hour Chrome Edition. Also Currency Collection Agency. Page
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Kennedy put out his new project Today. Also Paige and
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: then Pop Smoke has a new single, and that's from
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: the Boogey movie. It's called ap Look eighteen Albus, checking
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: my Knife Plight Spicy Albus and checking my Knife Plights
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: to be nice. I'm making nice, all right. That's just
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: some samples of things that are out today. Young Blue
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: has new music out with Coy Larey. Also today, Thieves
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Of course, all right, Na mister potato Head
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: is now gender neutral. People have all kinds of jokes
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: now on social media. Somebody said from stud to spud,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: so they said they're renaming the toy line, though not
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: the individual toys themselves. I know people thought it was
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: just going to be a gender neutral potato Head, but
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: now there's still mister potato Head, there's still Missus potato Head,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: but the line of products is called potato Head. Who
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: complained about this, who said that this is something people
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: want it because aren't all potato heads neutral as soon
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: as you just removed the parts. That's why they come
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: with accessories, right, Yes, I don't know this. Yeah, if
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I put eyes in the nose on it, it could
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: be whatever. It could be whatever they want everybody to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: feel included. So they're promoting gender equality and enclosure. Potatoes
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: don't have gender Listen. And here's the thing too, I
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: don't see no mister potato head all missus potato head
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: that come with Peter, not at all. They had like
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: the mustache, and I guess that's fine, but that's not genitalia. Yeah,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: but they still exist. Mister potato Head it's still there,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: and Missus potato Head is still there. It's just called
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: potato heads. All right, man, listen, all you woke people
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: need some sleep. It's all right. When you when you
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: stay up too long, you get tired, you start making
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: really silly choices, all right, Chelsea Hannah. A happy birthday
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: to her. She's forty six years old, and to celebrate,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: she was skiing naked. I don't know if you guys
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: saw that, but she also put out an inspiring message.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful to be able to appreciate so much Canadian beauty.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: She's in Canada working. Coming to Canada for winter on
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: a work visa and following all the mandatory quarantine rules
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: has exposed me to some of the most beautiful pieces
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: of nature I have ever seen. This is the place
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: that made me fall in love with skiing, fall in
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: love with the mountains, and appreciate that Mother Nature is
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: always in controlling, that we must respect her and we
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: must respect each other. Yeah. I agree with all that,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: But when I saw that picture, all of her, with
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: my daddy voice in my headset, that's how you get
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: nem on you in yass, right there, That's exactly how
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you get nem on you in yass. All right now,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars and Anderson Pack. I've announced a new band
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: called Silk Sonic. According to them, they locked in and
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: made an album. So they've already completed an album that
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: does feature Bootsy Islands and the first single we'll be
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: coming out next week on Friday with the Fan. Come
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: on with the fan? Now, everybody can hear you? Fan? Man?
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: They can't. You're just looking at me. They don't hear nothing.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I will say this though, that Anderson Pack Bruno Mars album.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to have no expectations, but on paper,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: that sounds amazing combinations. That's an amazing combination. Anderson Packing,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Bruno Moss. All right, now, did you know, since we're
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: talking about that, that same date, March fifth, that's also
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: when the Coming to America movie is coming out on
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime and Eddie Murphy's real life daughter is actually
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: in the movie. Did y'all know that I the middle one.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I think she's an actual daughter she played in real life. Yeah,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: so here he is talking about this on Good Morning America.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: She's a good little actress and she's been serious about
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: it for a while. There are no words or how
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: proud I am of my daughter and what a great
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: job she did, and she auditioned for the role and
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: she she got the role herself. Yeah, I don't know what.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she's the middle daughter or the
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: oldest one in the movie, because he got three daughters
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: in the movie. I don't remember. All right, Well, that
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: is your rumor report. All right, you hear my fan
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: for him? Yes, we can hear your fan. This is
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: flaming Rose fan, flaming role. That's why I says, uh
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: fan the flame, my guy, flaming my people, flaming row. Yes,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: my people. Um but I want a church fanom so
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: please still send your church fans up here. You look
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: like a grandma in church right now. I don't have
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: no problem with that. I love grandmother in church. Dropping
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: the clues bomb for all the grandma that go to
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: church on Sunday. I can literally be is the old
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: as a grandma in church. And to have that kind
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: of women experience, I will take it, all right, Okay,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you for that rumor report. Up
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: next is the People's Choice mix, get your request and revolt.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: We'll see you on Monday, everybody else, and also don't
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: forget you know sees it and I I think season
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: will be up here the next couple of weeks. He
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: just dropped a new book, so make sure you pick
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: up sees this book. It's called Flipping Keys. Kat e
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: y s. I was like, wow, flipping keys the whole
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: drug thing today. Damn well, that ain't what I mean.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Keys's about you real estate. It's about real estate. So
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: check it out. You hear his story, and then we're
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be in Atlanta, I think in two weeks doing
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: one of our seminars, trying to teach the community how
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: to purchase that first home. You should just stay in
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Atlanta once you go down there for All Star, y'all,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: just stay y'all out done, then stay there. I don't
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: want to see you for twenty thirty days, okay, because
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: you're gonna need quarantine. Quarantine quarantine quarters can't fly in
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: my first shot. I took my first shot at the
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: VACCINEE you did, you did? When you get the second one,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: when they take the trash out again, that TV so
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: you can get the second one. That's how you got
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: the first one. They took the trash out and he
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: was throwing it out. That's well, yeah, I mean, well
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: they have the vaccine and somebody didn't show up for
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: their appointment and I was there, so I got the shot. Okay,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: So when did they take the trash out again? You
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: get your second shot about three full weeks. We're monitoring
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: your bed too, Broy, because if that Beijing starts to
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: come out of your throat, something wrong. Shout to Kevin
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Hard shout the DJ. Call my brother Rick a snitch?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Did he? And I want to be shouted out? Shot out?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Just shouting my people's out there. I want to be
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: shouted out, y'all. You want to be the Beijing boy's
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: so bad? What are you talking? You're trying to do.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: You're trying to as symbol coalition of brothers who used that.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Damn die. I don't keep trying to be but Yo.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Shout to my brother Kevin Harkalig, Wow did he Ross?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: I see our brothers out there. Man, have a great weekend.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Let's get to mix. You gonna do an album? Did
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: never be the same morning? Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Ye,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, this
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: is the last Black History Month that we do in
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: this month. Dam Black History Month will be over after
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: this hum Well, I mean, the beauty of it is
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: we black. So we celebrate our history every day, all day, absolutely, okay,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: But today's Black History Month legend. The last one of
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: the month is the great Barry White. Okay? Who was
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Barry White? Barry White was an American singer songwriter, a
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: brother who had a voice like none other. If he
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: was born in the late seventies, you know, eighties, it's
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: a great chance. Your daddy released all his ancestors into
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: your mother while Barry White was the soundtrack. Okay, ask them.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Can't get enough of your love, baby, never never gonna
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: give you up. You're the first to last my everything.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Come on, now, let's hear a little, quick, little compilation.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean of that? That base baritone
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: voice that Barry had. Yeah, and you lay down the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: next never gonna give you about the way about a man.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Incredible records. But the thing I love about Barry White
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't just his music. It was his wisdom. And one
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: of my favorite moments was a conversation he had on
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: the Arsenio Hall Show where he spoke on the power
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: that we possess. Let's listen. The Breakfast Club presents a
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: New Black History Month legend. You know, people tend to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: play down our power or don't worry about it. This
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: next guy do it, unless that's God above to do it.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things has to change on this
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: planet Earth that only we can change. And until we
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: embrace the fact that we are as powerful as we
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: are as beings, we're gonna continue to make the mistakes
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: and allow the mistakes to be made, from our children,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: to our doubts, to our elderly, to whatever situation you
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: want to talk about. And that was another New Black
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: History Month legend, the courtesy of the Breakfast Club. Long
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Live Barry White Man. All right, now when we come back,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: we got the positive notes, so don't move. It's to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning, morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: It's time to get up out here. Charloman, you got
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: a positive note. Yeah, man, Since it's the last day
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: of Black History Month, man, why not you know, talk
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: about black power? Okay, black power? Two quotes about black
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: power from Stokely car Michael, one from Huey Newton. First, Stokely,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: black power can be clearly defined mind for those who
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: do not attach the fears of white America to their
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: questions about it. Hughie P. Newton, black power is given
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: power to people who have not had power to determine
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: their destiny. Breakfast club is y'all finish or y'all dumb.