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Chuck & Buck 2-25 hour 1: Is now the time to re-sign JSN? Schneider speak and Spring Training learning pt 5! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 3: Yeahs no idea.
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Speaker 1: So Ashley and I got you till ten o'clock today,
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Speaker 1: We got you through Friday at ten o'clock this week,
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Speaker 1: and we got a lot of things to discuss. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of employees, fellow employees, co workers around here with quirky
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Speaker 1: aspects to them. I don't know, maybe you will agree
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Speaker 1: with this. I'm not sure, but I walk out of
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Speaker 1: the studio today and our own Chris Kid as lovable
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Speaker 1: a tyke as you'll ever come across. Absolutely, he's you know,
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Speaker 1: we do our daily you know, fist pound as we
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Speaker 1: make the exchange from our show to his and I
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Speaker 1: he said to me yesterday he goes man stinks that
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Speaker 1: we didn't get that snow that they're getting in the northeast,
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Speaker 1: or something to that effect. What are you talking about?
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Speaker 1: Why would you want that? And he goes, oh, no,
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Speaker 1: just feels like good to get snowed in a couple
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Speaker 1: of days. I think it's because Chris is still just
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Speaker 1: a child that he still kind of thinks about how
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Speaker 1: cool it was in school for mom to wake you
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Speaker 1: up and tell you that's a snow day. You can
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Speaker 1: go back to sleep, which was cruel in its own self.
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Speaker 1: Why did you wake me up to tell me that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And so I think he's still he's still a kid
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Speaker 1: at heart, and I mean it's his last name, for
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Speaker 1: goodness sake, but he actually was yearning. He was disappointed
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Speaker 1: that we weren't barricaded inside our homes because of a
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Speaker 1: snowstorm yesterday. And to me, that just seems like folly.
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Speaker 2: Oh. I said that the other day when we were
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Speaker 2: talking about Greg. How I would have loved that. I'm
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Speaker 2: jealous because at that point they tell you nobody go anywhere.
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Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
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Speaker 2: I'll hang out at home and stare at the feet
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Speaker 2: of snow outside and then go play in it with
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Speaker 2: my kid and my dog.
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Speaker 3: Let's do it, ah.
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Speaker 1: Man, Why would you want to be hamstrung like that?
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Speaker 1: I get it if it's the holidays or something like that,
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Speaker 1: and you weren't playing them going anywhere, and the and
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Speaker 1: the house is filled with a feast of food, and
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Speaker 1: you don't have any need or want to go to
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Speaker 1: the grocery store because you've always handled it. But the inconvene,
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Speaker 1: I hate it. Inconvenience. It's probably the thing hipocrisies. Number one.
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Speaker 1: Inconvenience is number two. Mass murder is three.
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Speaker 3: Oh it's that low.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And so the inconvenience of it all, just
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Speaker 1: the ability, Oh, I'm gonna go hop in the store
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Speaker 1: and get that. Oh I can't because we're barricaded in and.
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Speaker 3: You can walk to the store.
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Speaker 1: Well, I understand that you're you're missing the point that
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Speaker 1: I just as an adult. And maybe it's because I
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Speaker 1: spent time in the Midwest and I've had my fair
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Speaker 1: share of snowstorms and scraping off ice to do me
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Speaker 1: for the rest of my life, but it is it's
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Speaker 1: hard for me to believe I got two adults here
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Speaker 1: in our building that actually would like to be snowed
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Speaker 1: into their homes like people are in Boston. I can
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Speaker 1: promise you there are a lot of adults in Boston
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Speaker 1: that are very furious over the way that their lives
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Speaker 1: have been impacted.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure, and that part of the thing is
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Speaker 2: there was a lot of winds, so I'm sure they
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Speaker 2: had power outages in the heavy snow.
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Speaker 3: I mean that stuff isn't what you want.
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Speaker 2: But the idea of just being snowed in first, you
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Speaker 2: go to the store before the storm comes, you prep,
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Speaker 2: you get all your stuff.
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Speaker 1: And I don't even want to be those those people, though,
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Speaker 1: the people that, because we're gonna have four two days
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Speaker 1: of snowstorm, buy all the water and all the toilet paper.
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Speaker 1: I mean even that that's another crappy element of this.
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Speaker 1: The overreactors.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, there are overreactors for sure, But I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't go to the store and buy all the water
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Speaker 2: or all the toilet paper.
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Speaker 3: People do, yes, no, I know they do.
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Speaker 2: But I'm saying it's you just you go, you you prep,
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Speaker 2: you have a couple.
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Speaker 3: Of days of being snowed in, and then you go
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Speaker 3: about your business.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I think, I think just if you don't, if
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Speaker 1: you're not practical about it. Yes, the idea of oh
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Speaker 1: look at the beautiful snow and you can sing bing
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Speaker 1: Crosby songs while you stare out over the white horizon.
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Speaker 1: It can look beautiful, but man, it's hard for me
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Speaker 1: to believe that there's a there are adults out there
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Speaker 1: that want to be inconvenience the way snowstorm inconveniences you.
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Speaker 1: You too, You got you got the you got the
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Speaker 1: hearts of kids is what you have. And I I
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Speaker 1: hope if it does happen to us, you're fully taking
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Speaker 1: advantage of it and you're going out and having a
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Speaker 1: snowball fight with five iron, and you're sledding down the
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Speaker 1: hill with Palmer, and you're doing all the things that
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Speaker 1: people like kids do when because kid, as a kid,
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Speaker 1: yes you got excited, but it was because you were
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Speaker 1: kept from from going to school, and nobody really wanted
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Speaker 1: to go to school. I mean, there I liked school,
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Speaker 1: but if my choice was school or staying home and
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Speaker 1: playing in the snow, I was going to choose to.
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Speaker 1: But that's the you know, as an adult, like I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm just I deal with people. You know, that purple
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Speaker 1: Sheet's gonna say, well, if you could buy yourself a
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Speaker 1: you know, a caterpillar, you know, rent one over there
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Speaker 1: at the caterpillar store, and you could just trudge your
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Speaker 1: way in here. Boy, we'd really if you could just
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Speaker 1: buy some of them tennis racket shoes that people walk
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Speaker 1: over the snow with, and if you could just walk
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Speaker 1: to work. I'd really appreciate that we got on the
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Speaker 1: air at six o'clock because you know that's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I've already set the stage though I've told
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Speaker 2: him for years, if there's more than really four inches
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Speaker 2: of snow, I'm probably not driving in it.
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Speaker 3: So good luck.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, well, I don't know. I can't stand
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Speaker 1: the inconvenience of it, but God bless the heart of
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Speaker 1: a child.
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Speaker 3: There you go. I'm glad I have one.
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Speaker 1: Well, welcome into the show here today. The pajama party
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Speaker 1: is going on in Indianapolis. Greg Bell escaped the snow
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Speaker 1: to get to Indianapolis. I mean, no one has ever
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Speaker 1: tried to escape a city to get to Indianapolis. The
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Speaker 1: Bells did that, and I made it safely. And we've
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Speaker 1: had reports and he wrote an article he got to
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Speaker 1: talk to John Schneider at the NFL Combine yesterday, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of it was centered around Ken Walker, which
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Speaker 1: we'll discuss with Greg coming up later on in the show.
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Speaker 1: We will also provide our Pajama Party preview today at
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Speaker 1: eight o'clock as well. But another thing that this organization
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Speaker 1: is sort of facing this offseason is not if you're
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Speaker 1: going to extend JSN or re up JSN, or you know,
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Speaker 1: make JSN one of the richest players in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: it's win. And this is really one thing about the
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Speaker 1: National Football League that I find head scratching. And maybe
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys fall into this pit every year because
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Speaker 1: they want to. There's talk that Jerry Jones, you know,
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Speaker 1: he likes the headlines, he likes the controversy, he likes
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Speaker 1: having holdouts because it keeps the Dallas Cowboys on the
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Speaker 1: front page. There's a theory out there that suggests that
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Speaker 1: that's what he's all about and that's why he does it.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know maybe that is true.
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Speaker 1: Certainly feels like he repeats it quite frequently, and he's
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Speaker 1: going to do it again this year with George Pickens
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Speaker 1: and franchise tag a guy that does not want to
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Speaker 1: be franchise tagged. And we'll be talking about it ad
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Speaker 1: nauseum at the beginning of the football season, at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of training camp, but if you can avoid that,
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you avoid that as an organization, as a franchise,
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of difficult decisions to make, and
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Speaker 1: John Schneider has been forced to make a lot of
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Speaker 1: difficult ones and he's been acing the test here in
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Speaker 1: the last two to three years on those difficult decisions.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would imagine there were a lot
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Speaker 1: of conversations about whether or not to trade dk Metcalf,
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Speaker 1: but it ended up being the right decision by the organization.
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Speaker 1: It freed up JSN to become JSN. It got us
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Speaker 1: nick Emon Worri in the process because he was the
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Speaker 1: draft pick that we ended up getting. I know that
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Speaker 1: they moved up to get him, but nonetheless you used
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Speaker 1: that draft capital in order to land nick Emon Warri
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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But truly, there are a lot
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Speaker 1: of difficult decisions that you have to make, and John's
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Speaker 1: been great at them as of late. To me, this
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Speaker 1: is not one of them. This is not one of
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Speaker 1: the difficult decisions. You have one of the best wide
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Speaker 1: receivers in the National Football League. You do all of
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Speaker 1: this so that you can find great players. And yes,
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Speaker 1: I realize that there's a world somewhere where you're so
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Speaker 1: good at what you do that you can punt on
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Speaker 1: high salaried players and then still find their replacements, cheaper
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Speaker 1: replacements that can come in and get the job done
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Speaker 1: for you the very next year or for the years
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Speaker 1: to come. Yeah, there's a world where that it's perfect
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Speaker 1: like that, and that you know, bluebirds not only greet
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Speaker 1: you in the morning, but they make you.
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Speaker 3: Breakfast and help you get dressed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they help you get dressed just like you're
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Speaker 1: a Disney princess. I realize that a world out there exists,
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Speaker 1: but man, that is way you are just way too
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Speaker 1: confident with yourself. You are way too far down the
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Speaker 1: road of trying to thread needles. If you have drafted
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Speaker 1: a JSN, he's turned out to be everything you wanted
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Speaker 1: him to be and more, and then you're still trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, well, is there a way
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Speaker 1: to keep him on the cheap? Is there a way
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Speaker 1: to convince him to take less? Or do we move
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Speaker 1: on from him and then try and we'll just draft
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Speaker 1: another one.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they just grow on trees.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that John Schneiders going through this,
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Speaker 1: but I did hear a conversation yesterday of fans, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, a group of fans were there were some
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Speaker 1: trying to make the case for don't hamstring us with
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Speaker 1: a big, giant salary of jsn uh, you know, kick
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Speaker 1: the can down the road. And you know you've got
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Speaker 1: him for another year of or two of control if
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Speaker 1: you need to. And so there's no reason to jump
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Speaker 1: the gun right now and pay him. You can pay
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Speaker 1: him cheap this year. You can lock him up to
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Speaker 1: his fifth year in the league at twenty seven million dollars. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's no reason to rip up the contract of him
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Speaker 1: this offseason. And and we can worry about that a
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Speaker 1: year from now, whether or not that that needs to
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Speaker 1: be done. You even have two years before you have
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Speaker 1: to come up with a deal. And I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I just I just don't operate in that space. I
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Speaker 1: think that once you've realized we have something special, you've
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Speaker 1: got to be willing to pay market price for them.
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Speaker 1: And to me, this is one the NFL makes it easy.
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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about it's the next brick in
12:25
Speaker 1: the road, right with quarterbacks all the time. We have
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Speaker 1: a quarterback every offseason that's not as good as others,
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Speaker 1: and yet he'll become the highest paid quarterback in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League because the agent will hold out until
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Speaker 1: he gets more money than the last quarterback that was
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Speaker 1: due the last good quarterback that was due to make
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Speaker 1: the next highest salary. I mean Dak Prescott's right now
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Speaker 1: the highest paid player in the National Football League. Is
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott anywhere close to being the best quarterback in
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Speaker 1: the NFL?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: No, I mean maybe top ten. He's probably top ten.
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Speaker 1: So it's not like they you know, it's not like
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Speaker 1: they trumped him up to be something that he's not.
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Speaker 1: It's just that's the way that these contracts work in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. So if you know how they work,
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Speaker 1: and you know what the agent's going to demand, and
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Speaker 1: you want to keep a great relationship with the player,
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Speaker 1: and you have cap space to work with right now,
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Speaker 1: which maybe you won't have as much to work with
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Speaker 1: the following year. I mean, you got JSN and you've
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Speaker 1: got Devin Witherspoon, and you know you're gonna want to
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Speaker 1: keep him, And maybe maybe we do use the strategy
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Speaker 1: on Spoon because of how physically he plays that maybe
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Speaker 1: we need another year to make sure that his body
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Speaker 1: can hold up before we commit long term to him,
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Speaker 1: since we have that extra year in our pockets. But
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Speaker 1: when it comes to Jackson Smith and Jigbu, I mean,
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Speaker 1: just take the next brick in the road.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you waiting for?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to play games with this,
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to created any injury, any
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Speaker 1: insult here that might disrupt a clubhouse that might have
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Speaker 1: had as much to do with the success of the
14:09
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five twenty six sy Hawks as as just
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Speaker 1: about anything. And so look, he's he's going to make
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Speaker 1: a cheap salary. You can pick him up for the
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Speaker 1: fifth option in twenty twenty seven for twenty four point four.
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Speaker 1: But to me, this is where you just say you've
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Speaker 1: outplayed your contract. We want to make it very clear
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Speaker 1: that we are Jackson Smith and Jigba people. And so
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Speaker 1: the last high contract, the highest paid receiver in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League is Jamar Chase and he made four years,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty one million dollars. That's a lot
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Speaker 1: of money. It's a lot of money for a wide receiver,
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Speaker 1: but it's also that's the business. That's the business you
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Speaker 1: signed up for. And if you don't want to be
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Speaker 1: like the Dallas Cowboys and creating headlines and never having
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Speaker 1: a cohesive locker room. Then go ahead and tested ice, suppose.
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Speaker 1: But to me, when the riding is on the wall
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Speaker 1: and it's obvious, you just take the next brick in
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Speaker 1: the road. Right now, this offseason offer Jackson Smith and
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Speaker 1: Jigba make him the highest paid receiver in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League. And I'll give you another reason why, Because
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Speaker 1: next year when you try to do it, the salary
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Speaker 1: will be even higher. When you try to do this
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Speaker 1: again next year and he's put together another potential season
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Speaker 1: like he's just had, then he's gonna ask for even
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Speaker 1: more because someone else will take the next brick in
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Speaker 1: the road, another wide receiver will jump ahead of Jamar Chase,
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Speaker 1: and then a year from now you're going to have
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Speaker 1: to jump that receiver in order to make Jackson Smith
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Speaker 1: and Jigba happy. So to me, this is the off
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Speaker 1: season to do it. And like I said, maybe you do, wait,
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Speaker 1: maybe you do employ that other strategy with Witherspoon. But
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Speaker 1: you know he's great. You know that the clubhouse loves him,
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Speaker 1: you know how important he is to the franchise. You
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Speaker 1: know that when you draft a player and he becomes
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Speaker 1: excellent that you're gonna have to pay that dude at
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Speaker 1: some point, and you're gonna have to pay him market value.
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Speaker 1: This guy has turned out to be as good a
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Speaker 1: wide receiver as in the National Football League, and so
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Speaker 1: don't mess around with this, give him his money, make
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Speaker 1: him happy, and then figure out how to make the
16:18
Speaker 1: rest of the offseason work. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: There's no chance that you want him to start thinking like,
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Speaker 2: maybe I'm not as appreciated as I should be, or
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Speaker 2: start looking elsewhere, or get have anyone get in his
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Speaker 2: ear and say, you know, we could really utilize this
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Speaker 2: to our advantage and kind of shop you around, not
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Speaker 2: obviously right now, but down the road. If you just
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Speaker 2: do it now, get all of that out of the way.
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Speaker 2: Let him know we want you to be a Seahawk.
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Speaker 2: We don't want you even thinking about going anywhere else,
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Speaker 2: and we appreciate everything you do for us, both in
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Speaker 2: the locker room, on the field, off the field, all
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Speaker 2: of it.
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Speaker 1: Don't want to miss a single practice. Yeah, don't even
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Speaker 1: give him a reason it. Don't even introduce that into
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Speaker 1: your harmonious organization. It's as hard harmonious is at any
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Speaker 1: time in the history of the Seahawks harmonious and excellent.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I want to achieve. If I'm
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Speaker 1: running an organization and this guy is a big part
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Speaker 1: of it, and so you put a smile on his
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Speaker 1: face on the first day of training camp versus you
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Speaker 1: know him spending the entire year. And you know how
17:22
Speaker 1: they operate today, today's athlete, I mean they're always constantly
17:27
Speaker 1: looking under every rock for some chip that they can
17:30
Speaker 1: put on their shoulder. And yeah, in some ways, I
17:33
Speaker 1: think it does drive them to excellence, but in other
17:36
Speaker 1: ways it can be a disruptive force. Jackson Smith and
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Speaker 1: Jigba is the type of person that is not going
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Speaker 1: to work less if he gets the money. That's one
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Speaker 1: of the great things about him. So to me, I
17:50
Speaker 1: don't want to overcomplicate this thing. I'm going to give
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Speaker 1: him that salary this year. I'm going to make him
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Speaker 1: happy this year. I'm going to reward him right now,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna lock him in his prime years
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Speaker 1: are going to be in a Seahawks uniform and I've
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Speaker 1: already won one super Bowl with him. So yeah, to me,
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Speaker 1: this is this can get over complicated and look Look,
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Speaker 1: there are ways to structure the contract, because NFL math
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Speaker 1: isn't real math where you don't take that big of
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Speaker 1: a hit. Now, if that's what the organization or fans
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Speaker 1: are worried about, you know, you can still create You
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Speaker 1: can still structure the contract where he doesn't make a
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Speaker 1: lot of money this year if you want to preserve
18:35
Speaker 1: that cap space to sign other guys, re sign other guys.
18:40
Speaker 1: There's a way to structure that. There's a way to
18:42
Speaker 1: do the contract. And so to me, this is just
18:46
Speaker 1: an opportunity to announce to the world that we believe
18:51
Speaker 1: this is the best wide receiver in the National Football
18:53
Speaker 1: League and we're paying him that way. And this is
18:56
Speaker 1: one last thing we got to worry about going forward.
18:59
Speaker 1: And the locker room will celebrate it, and most of
19:02
Speaker 1: your fan base will celebrate it, and you don't have
19:04
Speaker 1: to worry about creating any type of a division with
19:08
Speaker 1: your most popular and arguably best player in the organization.
19:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he doesn't even strike me as the type
19:14
Speaker 2: of guy that would be like chasing the highest contract, right,
19:17
Speaker 2: he doesn't strike me as the moon.
19:19
Speaker 1: He did say this week that he wants it. Yeah,
19:21
Speaker 1: oh did it? Yeah? Oh?
19:22
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
19:22
Speaker 2: That surprises me because he seems I mean, obviously if
19:25
Speaker 2: you can have it, but if you could.
19:28
Speaker 3: Get it, who wouldn't want it.
19:29
Speaker 2: But there's certain certain people that you see that they're like,
19:33
Speaker 2: that's it's kind of the ego, right, like I want
19:36
Speaker 2: the highest contract. I want the highest contract. So he
19:38
Speaker 2: didn't strike me as that person. That's surprising.
19:39
Speaker 1: One. Well, year after year, somebody's going to become the
19:42
Speaker 1: highest paid wide receiver. So just do it now because
19:45
Speaker 1: it's going to get higher next year, it is going
19:47
Speaker 1: to get and they'll get higher the following Yeah, so
19:50
Speaker 1: why not just you know, let's just do it now.
19:53
Speaker 1: Let's just get it done. One last thing to worry
19:55
Speaker 1: about going forward. All right, let's find out what's on
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Speaker 1: tap for the rest of the show today.
20:01
Speaker 3: What's on tip?
20:04
Speaker 1: What's on tip? All right? Greg Bell is going to
20:06
Speaker 1: join us at seven five today. We will also hear
20:09
Speaker 1: from John Schneider, not on JSN, but on the big
20:12
Speaker 1: story at the Combine and certainly for the Seahawks, and
20:15
Speaker 1: that is the status of Ken Walker. John even offered
20:18
Speaker 1: a little bit of an apology yesterday for the Red
20:21
Speaker 1: Solo Cup speech and the portion that included ken Walker
20:26
Speaker 1: admitting that he just made it up on the on
20:29
Speaker 1: the spot. So we'll hear from John about ken Walker
20:32
Speaker 1: coming up here in a little bit. Crack And Season
20:35
Speaker 1: resumes tonight in Dallas, Texas. As a matter of fact,
20:38
Speaker 1: sixteen NHL teams will return to the ice after a
20:42
Speaker 1: three week break to provide a window for the Olympics
20:46
Speaker 1: and for the best players in the world to participate
20:49
Speaker 1: in the Olympics. And now we get ready for the push.
20:52
Speaker 1: As Ashley pointed out yesterday, twenty five games remaining on
20:55
Speaker 1: the schedule right now. The krack And are a playoff team.
20:58
Speaker 1: But as we discussed with yesterday, really I think it's
21:02
Speaker 1: whoever manages how to come out of the gates here
21:05
Speaker 1: after a three week layoff, whether you're rusted or rested,
21:10
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be, you better come out
21:13
Speaker 1: of the gates starting tonight playing good hockey. I don't
21:16
Speaker 1: think you can afford one of those losing streaks that
21:19
Speaker 1: we've seen earlier in the year right out of the shoot.
21:22
Speaker 1: It could just it could tell the story for your
21:26
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five to twenty six seasons. So we'll get
21:29
Speaker 1: krack And Season restarted again, tonight in Dallas. Al Koniski's
21:33
Speaker 1: going to join us today at nine thirty this morning.
21:36
Speaker 1: Sounders off to a one and oho start. They'll be
21:38
Speaker 1: back in action Saturday against Real Salt Lake College Basketball.
21:42
Speaker 1: You dubbed one over Rutgers last night, seventy nine seventy
21:45
Speaker 1: two Hans Steinbach with an outstanding in twenty four points,
21:49
Speaker 1: sixteen rebounds, three block shots for the freshman you dub
21:53
Speaker 1: is fourteen and fourteen overall on the season, not as
21:57
Speaker 1: good in the conference. They will play against Wiscyhnson on
22:00
Speaker 1: Saturday at one o'clock. And that is that's Detla Shrimp
22:03
Speaker 1: Day right Saturday? Yes, yeah, so Detla Shrimp will be honored.
22:08
Speaker 1: Are they retiring the jersey? Yes, retiring the jersey. That's great.
22:12
Speaker 1: And Mariner spring training twelve ten lost to the Chicago
22:16
Speaker 1: White Sox yesterday down in the Cactus League. And we
22:19
Speaker 1: will certainly have some time today to talk to Mariners
22:22
Speaker 1: Baseball as we get closer and closer to opening day.
22:27
Speaker 1: But coming up next more from the combine. We'll hear
22:30
Speaker 1: from the Executive of the Year John Schneider and where
22:33
Speaker 1: he sits with his Super Bowl MVP running back ken Walker.
22:37
Speaker 1: It's Chuck and Ashley with you here Sports Radio ninety
22:40
Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM, Chuck and Ashley with you. Bucky
22:44
Speaker 1: is out this week, but the Red Solo Cup speech
22:47
Speaker 1: will live forever in our minds. And yet there was
22:52
Speaker 1: a little bit of an apology maybe from John yesterday.
22:57
Speaker 1: He actually feels a little bit bad about including ken
23:01
Speaker 1: Walker in his speech the way that he did. Uh,
23:04
Speaker 1: it didn't come off the way he wanted. Here's John
23:07
Speaker 1: Schneider yesterday at the NFL combine talking about ken Walker. Yeah,
23:12
Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP.
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Speaker 4: You know, I kind of lost it at the I
23:15
Speaker 4: got nervous at the uh, talking front all those people today,
23:18
Speaker 4: and Ken's like, what are you talking? Were I totally
23:20
Speaker 4: made that up?
23:21
Speaker 1: Like I just lost it.
23:22
Speaker 4: No, we we'd love to have uh, we love to
23:24
Speaker 4: have Ken back.
23:26
Speaker 1: You know.
23:26
Speaker 4: It's and he knows it's better than anybody. It's it's
23:29
Speaker 4: about our seventy you know, and our collective and what
23:32
Speaker 4: that's gonna look like.
23:33
Speaker 1: And and you know, we'll have those meetings.
23:34
Speaker 4: Down here where we'll you know, we'll start you know,
23:37
Speaker 4: talking to all the agents and and yeah, well.
23:41
Speaker 1: We'll have a better feel where we're.
23:42
Speaker 4: Going here and towards towards the end of the towards
23:44
Speaker 4: the end.
23:44
Speaker 1: Of the week. But obviously we'd love to have everybody.
23:46
Speaker 4: We won't have everybody back. You know, right when you
23:49
Speaker 4: get down with something special like that, you're like, Yah,
23:50
Speaker 4: let's run it back, let's run it back. You know
23:52
Speaker 4: it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting process.
23:55
Speaker 1: John Schneider yesterday at the NFL combine, let's just go
23:58
Speaker 1: ahead and call that way it was. I mean, John
24:01
Speaker 1: Schneider is I mean, he's really good in interviews, really
24:05
Speaker 1: good at public speaking, but he's not a professional orator, right,
24:08
Speaker 1: He's also there to have a good time. He's got
24:10
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reputation for being able to
24:12
Speaker 1: have a good time. And I think he was like,
24:14
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a good time ye here today,
24:16
Speaker 1: We've earned it. So he started a little bit early,
24:19
Speaker 1: and then he didn't want to have some prepared speech.
24:22
Speaker 1: He wanted to wing it on stage, which I think
24:25
Speaker 1: is the way to go. As Owen Wilson says in
24:28
Speaker 1: wedding crashers, speak from the heart.
24:30
Speaker 3: That's right, speak from the heart. It means more.
24:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so as he's out there on the stage,
24:35
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you do realize, oh,
24:37
Speaker 1: I've got a little bit to drink, and I got
24:39
Speaker 1: thousands and millions of people like hanging on my every word,
24:43
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, I don't remember exactly
24:45
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say up here. And you turn
24:47
Speaker 1: around and you see Ken Walker and like, oh, I
24:50
Speaker 1: do want to say something about him, because I'm going
24:53
Speaker 1: to be in a negotiation with him pretty soon. And
24:55
Speaker 1: he just made my life a lot more difficult because
24:57
Speaker 1: he drove the price up by winning the Super Bowl
24:59
Speaker 1: m and having his three best games in the playoffs
25:03
Speaker 1: this past year, ted Walker MVP, and he wants to
25:07
Speaker 1: start the negotiation, and he tried to make a little
25:10
Speaker 1: joke about we started to go. Ken started initiating the
25:16
Speaker 1: negotiation with me right before we came up on stage.
25:19
Speaker 1: In his mind he thought that would be funny. And
25:21
Speaker 1: Walker is stone cold, sober. Yeah, and he's sitting there
25:25
Speaker 1: in the crowd like what are you talking about? And
25:28
Speaker 1: said as much on what was it Instagram or TikTok
25:31
Speaker 1: or something. I think the quote was that must have
25:35
Speaker 1: been the liquor talking, yes, because we have not had
25:37
Speaker 1: a conversation about it.
25:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he laughed laughed about it.
25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he laughed about it. So I don't think
25:43
Speaker 1: it did any harm. But I'm sure the agent probably
25:47
Speaker 1: did say to John, uh, that's that's not cool, you know,
25:51
Speaker 1: to start the negotiation right there on the stage in
25:54
Speaker 1: front of everyone and catch ken off guard like that,
25:58
Speaker 1: And so he probably did address to try to like,
26:01
Speaker 1: you know, I will publicly admit I've screwed that up,
26:05
Speaker 1: and now can we start for fresh trying to figure
26:09
Speaker 1: out whether or not we can keep you here for
26:11
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. That's my interpretation of events.
26:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could see that happening.
26:15
Speaker 2: I think the surprising thing was it seemed like they
26:17
Speaker 2: hadn't really talked at all yet, and that still surprises me.
26:22
Speaker 2: I mean, Greg's talked about it multiple times. He asked
26:24
Speaker 2: ken Walker at training camp if they'd talked to him. No,
26:28
Speaker 2: he asked him after the super Bowl.
26:30
Speaker 1: No.
26:31
Speaker 2: So and now here we are two weeks after the
26:33
Speaker 2: super Bowl and they still haven't had a conversation.
26:35
Speaker 3: That's surprising to me.
26:36
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think there was some frustrations with
26:40
Speaker 1: ken Walker. I mean, Carroll lit him up his first
26:44
Speaker 1: year for not running where he needs to run. There's
26:47
Speaker 1: no question this season that there were times Mike McDonald
26:51
Speaker 1: was like, get him out of there, charbon Ay get in,
26:53
Speaker 1: And not that charbon Ay's more talented, because he's not,
26:57
Speaker 1: but he was running the way they want the offense
27:01
Speaker 1: to be structured. And so for Mike McDonald is like,
27:05
Speaker 1: I'm tired of second and nine. Charbonete will get me
27:08
Speaker 1: second and seven at least second and six at least. Yeah,
27:11
Speaker 1: And so I think there were some frustrations over the
27:15
Speaker 1: course of the last four years, and even though they
27:19
Speaker 1: clearly love him as a talent, they didn't quite see
27:25
Speaker 1: the ken Walker for four years that they wanted to
27:28
Speaker 1: see until the playoffs. Then again, they didn't exactly unleash
27:31
Speaker 1: him the way that they did in the playoffs, and
27:33
Speaker 1: so it has put him in a little bit of
27:35
Speaker 1: a difficult situation. Plus Charbonnay's hurt too, so you don't
27:39
Speaker 1: even have that to fall back on for next season.
27:42
Speaker 1: So suddenly he seems a little more important to you
27:45
Speaker 1: than what he might have during his four years here.
27:48
Speaker 1: And now he's got a free agent market that is
27:55
Speaker 1: thirsting for him, and it's not a great running back class,
27:58
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of teams out there will
27:59
Speaker 1: a lot of money who aren't very good at what
28:01
Speaker 1: they do. By the way, not every organization in the
28:05
Speaker 1: NFL is good at this. John Schneider is good at this.
28:08
Speaker 1: So John Schneider's want going to want to give a
28:11
Speaker 1: reasonable offer to keep Ken Walker, And after watching what
28:15
Speaker 1: happened in the playoffs, he's now convinced himself, we're going
28:18
Speaker 1: to have to go beyond what we were expecting to
28:21
Speaker 1: give because he now feels a lot more important than
28:25
Speaker 1: he did a month and a half ago. So I
28:27
Speaker 1: think they are willing to go a little bit beyond.
28:31
Speaker 1: But my fear is that there's somebody out there that's
28:34
Speaker 1: just going to give him such an offer that John
28:38
Speaker 1: just practically won't allow himself to match it. So my
28:42
Speaker 1: feeling is that the Seahawks are have changed their mind
28:46
Speaker 1: on how nice of an offer they're going to give
28:49
Speaker 1: number nine. But my feeling remains that in the end,
28:52
Speaker 1: someone's going to give him something else that's better well.
28:55
Speaker 2: And it would just be a matter of if he
28:57
Speaker 2: chooses to stick stick back here and trying to run
29:01
Speaker 2: it back with a team for the amount that is
29:03
Speaker 2: an and if he feels that the amount is acceptable
29:06
Speaker 2: that the Seahawks are offering him, or if he feels
29:07
Speaker 2: insulted by the amount the Seahawks are offering him, I
29:09
Speaker 2: don't think they'd do that. I don't think they'd insult him,
29:12
Speaker 2: and I don't think that anything on. You know, if
29:15
Speaker 2: they're offering him eight million, yeah, I'd be insulted by that,
29:18
Speaker 2: like what Spotrek was saying. But I think if you're
29:21
Speaker 2: offering him ten to twelve, I think that's fair.
29:24
Speaker 1: Well, I think they're I think they have to jump
29:26
Speaker 1: it up to around that level, eleven or twelve, because
29:31
Speaker 1: I think that's what the market is going to pay him. No,
29:35
Speaker 1: and maybe he hasn't earned that for four years of production,
29:38
Speaker 1: but it just depends on in sports, when you hit
29:41
Speaker 1: the open market and he's hitting it as a hot name.
29:46
Speaker 3: Pretty perfect timing.
29:47
Speaker 1: Very good timing for ken Walker. Uh And I don't
29:51
Speaker 1: really blame the organization for not locking him up previously
29:54
Speaker 1: with all the questions that surrounded him, but certainly now
29:58
Speaker 1: huh wow. I mean, yes, we won a super Bowl,
30:02
Speaker 1: but man, he just made the negotiation a lot harder
30:05
Speaker 1: on us here going forward, because not only did he
30:09
Speaker 1: drive his price up, he can also use his leverage.
30:13
Speaker 1: Where were you? You had four years to negotiate with me,
30:16
Speaker 1: So there could have been some hurt feelings that developed
30:19
Speaker 1: over the four years. And certainly the agent's going to
30:21
Speaker 1: be in his ear telling him to take the biggest
30:24
Speaker 1: money offer. Would you why would you feel any you know,
30:29
Speaker 1: union with the Seattle Seahawks. They had a chance to
30:31
Speaker 1: pay her for four years. That's going to be the
30:33
Speaker 1: agent's job, because the agent's going to want him to
30:35
Speaker 1: get the highest money possible because that means he gets
30:38
Speaker 1: the most money possible. So he's not going to let
30:41
Speaker 1: ken Walker fall back on sentimentality for an organization that
30:46
Speaker 1: had a chance to make him happy or happier for
30:50
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, and didn't do it. And so that's
30:53
Speaker 1: the game. That's the game that's being played. And I
30:55
Speaker 1: think that the way that it's going to play out
30:57
Speaker 1: is that somebody's going to give an offer that John
31:00
Speaker 1: Schneider's gonna feels ridiculous and is not going to match it.
31:03
Speaker 1: And my guess is ken Walker wears another uniform next year.
31:07
Speaker 1: But I will say this based off of the Charbonne injury,
31:11
Speaker 1: as we covered yesterday, the lack of free agent running
31:15
Speaker 1: backs on the market. I mean, you pass on ken Walker,
31:18
Speaker 1: you don't give him a little bit extra, a little
31:20
Speaker 1: money that makes you uncomfortable, then you might have to
31:23
Speaker 1: do it with somebody else. So why not go with
31:25
Speaker 1: somebody that you believe in and have believed in since
31:27
Speaker 1: he was a Michigan State spartan for goodness sake? And
31:31
Speaker 1: so you you you also have a draft class that
31:37
Speaker 1: you know that is not screaming that it's a great
31:40
Speaker 1: draft class either. So I don't know if I love
31:43
Speaker 1: the options if you don't have ken Walker, but it
31:47
Speaker 1: certainly this is an organization that's going to make smart decisions.
31:52
Speaker 1: They're not going to be an organization that's desperate and
31:54
Speaker 1: just throws as much money at a problem as they
31:56
Speaker 1: possibly can because they need the pr boost. That's not
32:00
Speaker 1: the way the Seahawks are going to operate. So if
32:02
Speaker 1: somebody else operates that way, ken Walker's gonna wear another
32:05
Speaker 1: uniform next season, and the Seahawks will spend the next
32:10
Speaker 1: month and a half trying to solve their running back
32:12
Speaker 1: issue because they're gonna need more than one guy. They're
32:14
Speaker 1: gonna need two guys minimum. All right, Coming up next
32:17
Speaker 1: on the program, last week, we're at spring training. This
32:21
Speaker 1: week we've done what I learned at spring training and
32:25
Speaker 1: we reach part five of our franchise series Next Sports
32:29
Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
32:31
Speaker 3: I got that.
32:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I hope that. I hope that's the case
32:33
Speaker 1: for everybody. Hope you got a smile on your face,
32:35
Speaker 1: a snap on your finger, and a pep in your step.
32:38
Speaker 1: Good morning. It is Chuck and Ashley with you know,
32:40
Speaker 1: Bucky Jacobson. We're jazzy because he's not here, and we've
32:45
Speaker 1: got headlines coming up at seven o'clock. Also Greig Bell
32:48
Speaker 1: coming up at seven oh five. Last week, Bucky and
32:51
Speaker 1: I were in spring training. He liked it so much
32:53
Speaker 1: he saved he saved up some money to stay down
32:56
Speaker 1: there for a week. So Bucky's down there in spring
32:59
Speaker 1: and Arizona though with his family having a grand old time.
33:03
Speaker 1: But last week we did our spring training coverage. SAWIDLB
33:08
Speaker 1: network was there yesterday. Good luck trying to top what
33:12
Speaker 1: we did.
33:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's gonna be even half of what
33:15
Speaker 3: you guys did.
33:16
Speaker 1: I kind of admire like the guts that Greg Amsinger
33:20
Speaker 1: showed in just showing his face a week after.
33:23
Speaker 3: All week he probably felt foolish.
33:25
Speaker 1: Oh well, anyway, that was a cute try. But anyway,
33:30
Speaker 1: the Mariners this week, I've spent a few segments talking
33:34
Speaker 1: about what I learned, because we obviously didn't get into
33:36
Speaker 1: all of it last week. Here's another thing that I learned,
33:40
Speaker 1: and that is just how joyous this organization is right now.
33:43
Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Hollander was floating while we were down there.
33:46
Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto, I've never seen him happier and man, and
33:50
Speaker 1: he's deserved it. I mean, he's just been crushed by
33:54
Speaker 1: the media in this town and this fan base for
33:57
Speaker 1: so many years now consecutively, even though he'd created a
34:01
Speaker 1: winning product here in Seattle, and then he wins Executive
34:05
Speaker 1: of the Year. And I think a lot of those
34:07
Speaker 1: fans that were crushing him are starting to see the
34:09
Speaker 1: game plan come together. I mean, this team pulled off,
34:13
Speaker 1: this organization, I should say, has pulled off one of
34:16
Speaker 1: the more difficult things to achieve in baseball. They've not
34:19
Speaker 1: only turned themselves into a championship contender right now, but
34:24
Speaker 1: it came without having to jeopardize the future as well.
34:30
Speaker 1: I mean, they are really set up nicely. They are
34:34
Speaker 1: a world championship contender. The American League favorite to make
34:38
Speaker 1: it to the World Series, and they're being discussed as
34:42
Speaker 1: having the best you know, farm class and all of
34:46
Speaker 1: the sport. I mean, maybe not the top of the heap,
34:50
Speaker 1: but closer to the top than they are to the middle,
34:53
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. And Michael Arroyo yesterday was named
34:57
Speaker 1: on an article I saw at MLB Network as one
34:59
Speaker 1: of the five prospects turning heads in all of baseball
35:03
Speaker 1: at spring training. And that's a guy we've hardly even mentioned.
35:06
Speaker 1: Is Michael Arroyo their second baseman slash shortstop prospect who
35:11
Speaker 1: they've refuse to involve in trades, And he's starting to
35:14
Speaker 1: turn heads and create buzz down there in Arizona now
35:17
Speaker 1: that the games are underway. And then there's Las Montes.
35:21
Speaker 1: I mean, there just aren't a lot of prospects that
35:23
Speaker 1: you come across that, you know, people kind of project
35:26
Speaker 1: forty to fifty home runs potential for him in the future.
35:30
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a long way to go from prospect
35:33
Speaker 1: to hitting forty homers in a season, you know, And
35:36
Speaker 1: so we're not putting that expectation on him, and we
35:39
Speaker 1: are certainly, you know, not guaranteeing anything you do open
35:45
Speaker 1: the door to the possibility that maybe it just doesn't
35:48
Speaker 1: click at the major league level. But he is a
35:50
Speaker 1: mountain of a man. He's about as nice a person
35:53
Speaker 1: as you could meet, and he has been the MVP
35:59
Speaker 1: every season wherever he's at in the league.
36:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy since he started.
36:05
Speaker 1: Professional baseball, which is insanity. So we forget. I mean,
36:10
Speaker 1: you've built a team that doesn't seem to have any
36:13
Speaker 1: really gaping holes right now, which is great. How often
36:17
Speaker 1: has that happen in Mariner's history. How many times you
36:19
Speaker 1: got into spring training and thought to yourself, Oh, there
36:21
Speaker 1: aren't really any significant holes. Maybe never Yeah, And then
36:26
Speaker 1: on top of it, you also have this layer of
36:29
Speaker 1: prospects that you're not accounting on or expecting to do anything.
36:34
Speaker 1: But there is a potential that if they take their
36:39
Speaker 1: game to the next level during the minor league process
36:42
Speaker 1: this year, we'll elevate them. We're not going to be
36:45
Speaker 1: scared of elevating. We're in a championship window. We're not
36:48
Speaker 1: going to be worried about stepping on toes or hurting feelings.
36:51
Speaker 1: If he's the better man for the job, we'll promote him,
36:54
Speaker 1: and we will promote him the moment that he's ready,
36:57
Speaker 1: and who knows what las Montes can do if, in fact,
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Speaker 1: he is ready for the major leagues versus any one
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Speaker 1: of the other four outfielders that are going to comprise
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Speaker 1: the right field job and the DH job. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: anticipate Las Montes being a significant contributor this year, but
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Speaker 1: they are certainly open to the idea that he's going
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Speaker 1: to be ready sooner than later. And when he is ready,
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Speaker 1: he's going to give them an edge that they don't
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Speaker 1: have currently on the roster. A guy with forty to
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Speaker 1: fifty home run potential right out of the shoot. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about with this young man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean he definitely told Bucky that he
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Speaker 2: was ready to hit forty or fifty in the Major
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Speaker 2: They all say that, yeah, but to do And but
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Speaker 2: I like the confidence, you know, and to say, yeah,
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Speaker 2: whenever that time comes, I'll be there, I'm ready.
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Speaker 1: Well, I just I mean, I just love the fact
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Speaker 1: that they're not closed to the idea of it. And
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Speaker 1: he probably won't be ready to contribute that heavily to
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Speaker 1: this season, but we're saying there's a chance. Yeah, what
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Speaker 1: we're saying is and what they're saying is is he's
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Speaker 1: not that far away, and if he proves that he's
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Speaker 1: closed the gap, and he proves to us that he's ready,
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Speaker 1: we won't be shy about activating him, and we will
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Speaker 1: not limit our expectations for him, and those expect that
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Speaker 1: ceiling is a lot higher than any of the four
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Speaker 1: guys Canzone ref Snyder, Raleigh or Roblaze that they currently
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Speaker 1: have occupying two positions right now on the roster. All Right,
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