Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Willow-Jean Prime: Labour Social Development spokesperson on jobseeker numbers
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Benefit numbers not looking to flash for the government. The
- 0:02Speaker 1: Social Development Minister Louise Upstin wanted fifty thousand people off
- 0:06Speaker 1: job seeker support by twenty thirty, but the Treasury forecasts
- 0:09Speaker 1: still show ed'll miss the mark by sixty thousand. In
- 0:12Speaker 1: other words, it's going up and it's all forty four
- 0:14Speaker 1: percent higher than they initially wanted with those targets. To
- 0:18Speaker 1: talk about this, Willow jene Prime is Labour's Social Development
- 0:20Speaker 1: and Employment spokesperson.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Good morning to you, will I, Good morning Andrew.
- 0:24Speaker 1: So you said the target was not sabotage, The target
- 0:27Speaker 1: was not inherited from you guys. They said that they
- 0:29Speaker 1: promoted and they failed to deliver. It was Louise Upstin
- 0:32Speaker 1: in the wrong for setting an ambitious target.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Well, what this government is She was wrong to set
- 0:40Speaker 2: this target of fifty thousand job seekers and ever since
- 0:46Speaker 2: they have become the government and she has become the minister,
- 0:49Speaker 2: the information that they have been provided with shows that
- 0:52Speaker 2: that target is unachievable. When challenged on this fact, she
- 0:57Speaker 2: continues to distract and talk about the ambitious task that
- 1:01Speaker 2: she's set herself, but failing to acknowledge the challenges that
- 1:05Speaker 2: we are actually dealing with. So we had this exchange
- 1:08Speaker 2: yesterday in Select Committee about her target that she wants
- 1:12Speaker 2: to focus on, and I think at the same time
- 1:15Speaker 2: the punitive measures that the government has put in place
- 1:17Speaker 2: for beneficiaries when failing to acknowledge that there are so
- 1:21Speaker 2: many people who are looking for work, who are wanting work,
- 1:25Speaker 2: but they haven't created the conditions for more work. So
- 1:28Speaker 2: the example that I gave her yesterday was a recent
- 1:32Speaker 2: job application, over twelve hundred people in Auckland applying for
- 1:37Speaker 2: one cleaning job. So these job seeking numbers that she's got,
- 1:41Speaker 2: people are wanting work, but they cannot get work.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Are you, though, failing to acknowledge the difficult situation that
- 1:47Speaker 1: we're in, the uncontrollable factors like the around war in
- 1:49Speaker 1: Trump's tariffs. Because Louise ups and shot back at you
- 1:52Speaker 1: yesterday and she said, under your under your regime, and
- 1:56Speaker 1: there was a fifty four percent rise in number of
- 1:57Speaker 1: job seekers compared to fourteen percent over the last two
- 2:00Speaker 1: and a half years.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Well, the government likes her conveniently forget that we were
- 2:06Speaker 2: dealing with a global pandemic when throwing those numbers around.
- 2:10Speaker 2: And what she also seems to forget is that under
- 2:14Speaker 2: our government we actually had unemployment down to three point
- 2:17Speaker 2: two percent. Under this government it's five point three percent.
- 2:21Speaker 2: It's decades high unemployment. And that is my concern that
- 2:26Speaker 2: I was raising the Minister, that she continues to focus
- 2:29Speaker 2: on this fantasy target of fifty thousand less when all
- 2:33Speaker 2: reports say it's actually going to be sixty thousand more,
- 2:37Speaker 2: and failing to acknowledge and address the fact that there
- 2:40Speaker 2: just simply aren't the jobs for these job seeker beneficiaries
- 2:44Speaker 2: to go into.
- 2:46Speaker 1: What's wrong with the ambition.
- 2:49Speaker 2: I think the ambition that she has is a bumper
- 2:52Speaker 2: sticker target. It is a distraction from the real issues
- 2:56Speaker 2: that New Zealanders are facing. There are New Zealanders who
- 3:00Speaker 2: do not believe that the government has done enough to
- 3:03Speaker 2: create the economic conditions to create employment, so we have
- 3:07Speaker 2: a decade high unemployment. We have seen the government investing
- 3:11Speaker 2: billions into landlords and tobacco companies. They have canceled state
- 3:16Speaker 2: housing builds and other infrastructure projects that have led to
- 3:20Speaker 2: significant job losses. They're announcing another nine thousand job cuts
- 3:24Speaker 2: from the public sector. New Zealanders are doing it really tough.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Now before this is before we even had the latest
- 3:33Speaker 2: conflict in Iran.
- 3:34Speaker 1: All right well as jem Prian. Thank you so much
- 3:36Speaker 1: for getting up so early for us.
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