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- 0:03[SPEAKER_00]: poison rana.
- 0:04[SPEAKER_02]: Hello.
- 0:06[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, hello, hello.
- 0:08[SPEAKER_02]: Bring Harrington here with David Portman for poison rana live.
- 0:13[SPEAKER_02]: You found us in whatever podcast app you were listening to and it's Sunday, one PM, August, tenth and we are live on YouTube.com slash at poison rana pod.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_01]: We are back.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_01]: Hello everybody.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_01]: Hello.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_01]: Are we doing?
- 0:29[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's been a few weeks since we've done a PRL.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a while.
- 0:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, RL.
- 0:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_02]: Been a while.
- 0:39[SPEAKER_02]: You were away in the motherland of the UK.
- 0:42[SPEAKER_02]: You were witnessing some oasis and then we had Summerslam two nights last week.
- 0:49[SPEAKER_02]: So we didn't go live then because we wanted to we wanted to watch Summerslam.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_02]: So we gave our thoughts on Tuesday.
- 0:56[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't checked out, I'm sure we'll go through maybe a little bit today and
- 0:59[SPEAKER_02]: the fallout or repercussions if you will from everything that took place at summer slam.
- 1:05[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's been a while since we did a Sunday show talking just all the other stuff in the world of wrestling because it never ever stops.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_01]: Never stops.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_01]: And as always, so much to talk about across the board from WWE deals and releases and returns and story lines.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we've got a W going on as well.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_01]: The G-One is coming to the playoffs, but first of all, Braden, the Black Eyed Peas just don't get the respect they deserve.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_02]: The Black Eyed, where?
- 1:39[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't see the night could gone yesterday.
- 1:41[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.
- 1:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 1:42[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
- 1:43[SPEAKER_02]: It is true.
- 1:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:46[SPEAKER_02]: They use the original version of the Blackhead T song.
- 1:52[SPEAKER_02]: everyone yeah I don't know if that version is making a comeback or not but uh what a movie right move it there pretty fun pretty probably just straight up ninety minutes of them hurling jokes at you like blink and you miss like jokes within jokes of it's crazy it's it's directed like yeah like very much kept the feeling of the originals just like the stupid like one liners and
- 2:16[SPEAKER_02]: Can I take a chat?
- 2:17[SPEAKER_01]: No, I have plenty of.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all the like silly, like, yeah, naked gun, Leslie Nelson style comedy and Lee and me some did such a good job of doing that exact style.
- 2:29[SPEAKER_02]: But it's crazy because it's like what Seth McFarlane produced and then a Kiva from Lonely Island.
- 2:35[SPEAKER_02]: So like the right.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_02]: the cross of all the people involved in this movie kind of is a perfect storm of just silliness so yeah that that one's up there as movie of the of the year so far is just so so so so funny and so stupid so fantastic you haven't gotten seen it definitely check it out um that there's some good movies you know like fantastic forzao i'm hearing so much about this weapons thing i'm working i think i'm just doing a double bill today to be honest something okay weapons and then uh fantastic for yeah
- 3:06[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for a little too for one kind of deal.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's what I'm thinking today.
- 3:11[SPEAKER_01]: It's so hot outside.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_01]: So being in an air condition room and the seats of their Scotch bank are pretty, pretty comfy.
- 3:18[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's my plan for the rest of the day.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_02]: Well, did you stay for the post credit scene and naked gun?
- 3:25[SPEAKER_01]: I I was messaging Graham I was like is there a post credit scene and He's like yeah, and I go okay When is it and he goes well once it cuts to like the regular credit It's it's dark so it's like okay I'm watching the regular credit.
- 3:42[SPEAKER_01]: It's hearing Liam Neeson sing and then I'm like oh, I've got Liam Neeson singing and he's like oh, I didn't have that.
- 3:48[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like
- 3:49[SPEAKER_01]: really.
- 3:49[SPEAKER_01]: So I ended up leaving and missing the the weird outfit.
- 3:53[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's funny because well, we just saw weird out only a few weeks ago, which was a fantastic show where Graham almost died.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_02]: I friend almost died.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_02]: witnessing weird out.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_02]: But the original naked gun has a cameo, weird out as well.
- 4:09[SPEAKER_02]: So it does kind of tie, there's a great gag where he gets off the plane and everyone's cheering.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh, wow, for me.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, no, Frank, weird out on the same flight.
- 4:18[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone's losing their minds, weird out.
- 4:20[SPEAKER_02]: So it's cool that he's in the universe now with the new one and everything.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, what do I really enjoy fantastic for as well?
- 4:29[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a given, but also stay for the credits, Davy.
- 4:32[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_02]: The big one is the mid credit scene you got a step for it, but after credit scene also hits as well.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_02]: So definitely check.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's getting like just ridiculous now.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_01]: Like I always the Wi-Fi is always like wonky in the cinema.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they can block his or stuff to try and keep people up their phone.
- 4:51[SPEAKER_01]: because I'm always like sad in a movie and I'm like, is there a post-credit scene?
- 4:55[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they all do it now.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_01]: Not just the comic book movies, just everything.
- 4:59[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'll be sat watching killers of the flower moon and I'm like, is there a post-credit scene this?
- 5:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tarantino Watson.
- 5:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_02]: I think everything shit like even when Mario had when Mario the movie came out like a few years ago.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_02]: I was like okay, Sonic gonna show up is the hand from Smash Brothers gonna show up like now you're just expecting you know I did the same thing when I saw Nick and gun and it was about the time
- 5:27[SPEAKER_02]: Liam Neeson singing and I'm like quickly pull out my phone.
- 5:30[SPEAKER_02]: I was a Sammy Schroler if you will and I was like a quick Google is there a post credit and it's like yes, there is I'm like God bless that website whoever's job is to to make sure hey just make sure you stay for that I also felt quite uncomfortable because the lights were completely off
- 5:49[SPEAKER_01]: And no one else was in the theater at that point.
- 5:51[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, I'm like, I'll find it online.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.
- 5:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you can you can do that.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, summer is super hot here in the city right now because of these like forest fires or wherever they may be.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_02]: the air pollution.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_02]: It's been super hot, which is don't get me wrong.
- 6:10[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take hot over cold any day, but it's been, it's been kind of hard to breathe in the last few days.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of stuff.
- 6:16[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, I, I consider myself pretty healthy.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_01]: I, I go for like long walks daily and I'm struggling like I just got back from a walk and I'm like out of breath.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's tough.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_02]: So stay cool, stay hydrated, wherever you may be on this earth.
- 6:34[SPEAKER_02]: But if you're listening to this, thanks for joining us here today.
- 6:38[SPEAKER_02]: There's some people in the chat, see the frog emojis, see the ribbit rib, it's appreciate.
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- 6:48[SPEAKER_02]: We do tons of other shows.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_02]: If you check out our patreon.com slash poison rod at you may have heard some road diaries or have we not, have we not called them this, David?
- 7:00[SPEAKER_02]: whole diaries.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_02]: The snap runners on the patreon we did some some catching up on our drive to Cleveland we made a random Wednesday night trip to Cleveland Ohio Ohio is for lovers can confirm and we we went to dynamite and then we pervers around the city and then we came back on on Thursday the buddy Shane shut out Shane and we record some fun.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember the other show other than the one in the car going there.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty foggy on the other ones.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_01]: So I did while you were while you were at work on Friday.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of pieced piece the two other recordings we did together.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_01]: I listened to them back.
- 7:41[SPEAKER_01]: They're not very bad.
- 7:43[SPEAKER_01]: They're filled in like did a little bit of narration to fill in the gaps of what happened between.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we got two SNAP runners, two road diaries for our trip to
- 7:53[SPEAKER_01]: to Cleveland, which, uh, yeah, uh, how did you, how did you find a little a little day out?
- 7:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, Cleveland for me has always been somewhere you just kind of drive through when you're going to Florida as Ontarians, uh, no, but finally kind of seeing the waterfront and some of the bars and like the sights and stuff like, oh, you know, it's a pretty little pretty little city, especially in the summer with, like, again, the waterfront there and like the outside and
- 8:19[SPEAKER_02]: And we had, you, you've got us a nice little Airbnb where it was like near this strip of bars.
- 8:26[SPEAKER_02]: We found this place called Joe Leans, which was pretty much like a entry, Dolly Parton inspired thing.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_02]: We, we were marking out, doing photo shoots and taking pictures and they had all the gimmicks of like country bond.
- 8:38[SPEAKER_01]: I took my cowboy hat from Texas just because it's been hot and sunny and I really don't suit hats and for some reason this white cowboy hat kind of kind of suits me.
- 8:49[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 8:54[SPEAKER_02]: there's like lights and country stuff and like like almost like a museum to like country music and floors of rooftop patio and everything and like a indali we trust a giant memorial and like all this stuff not in the market because you don't like but you know what I mean but then I think we had a few drinks and some sweet teas or something and then I'm like oh like this is the rock and roll hall of fame city and I know dolly just went in a little while ago so I asked the bartenders I'm like clearly this is an official dolly bar and they just went
- 9:24[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, oh, does Dolly know about this?
- 9:26[SPEAKER_02]: Because kind of seems like it's her.
- 9:28[SPEAKER_01]: It was interesting because on the receipt, it had an entertainment tax, which I was wondering if it was, um, it was gonna pay a case from, like, just all the bars you pay in the same tax.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_01]: But nowhere else had this.
- 9:42[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, a lot of places were tax free.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 9:45[SPEAKER_01]: We can't.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I'm like, there wasn't life music or anything, but maybe just the tax because it's easy to do.
- 9:52[SPEAKER_01]: a cool ball.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_01]: I also do college all weekend.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: That was that.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_02]: That was our MO.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_02]: It was a Wednesday, David.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_02]: Jeez.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 10:04[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we were like, we were the Cleveland Guardians on Wednesday.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we were.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_02]: I still didn't realize that that name had changed because I'm seeing guardians everywhere.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what the hell is this like guardians insurance?
- 10:18[SPEAKER_02]: What is this?
- 10:19[SPEAKER_02]: And then I think back to
- 10:21[SPEAKER_02]: Charlie Sheen and wild thing and and I'm like wait a second the Cleveland Indians of course the name is changed to the guardians and I'm so behind on that one so I just learned that so yeah I got some ballpark mustard I haven't tried yet, but I'm excited to so yeah Cleveland rocks got some hot sources got some dinosaur what was it dinosaur snort hot dinosaur snort wasn't like that was it was good
- 10:46[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I got to get that.
- 10:47[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think I think it would be cool if there's obviously I went to SummerSlam last year and had a had a pretty fun time.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_01]: But if there was a weekend or like whether it's a W running there or WW or something, it's close enough that we can we can make that trip.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you'd be worth checking out the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which is it's cool there.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I think next time I would totally do that because you had sent me some pictures when you went and there was like so much stuff from like rock and roll epic.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like right.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it was, it was a nice little trip like for us that was like about a five hour drive from Toronto and it's like, okay, we won't necessarily do that all the time, but it was a nice little, little one two.
- 11:31[SPEAKER_02]: We ran into friend of the post wrestling universe, Marcus, Van de Berg, shout out Marcus, that was a sweet little rendezvous, got to get shut.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll try to convince him to get on a show and talk some wrestling and we were basically being tortured about the Otani stuff.
- 11:49[SPEAKER_02]: Blue Jays, Laura, for those who know.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was a cool, cool part as the Blue Jays are in LA right now.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was funny.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I had a couple of, because I'm friends with a, one of the photographers that I go way back from like my first trip to WrestleMania.
- 12:07[SPEAKER_01]: And where was sat is pretty much right behind him.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_01]: So I take a photo of him taking focus and send it to him and similar to Marcus, they're like,
- 12:18[SPEAKER_01]: What, why the fuck are you in killing me?
- 12:22[SPEAKER_02]: Most people in Cleveland were like, oh, where are you from?
- 12:25[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm from Toronto.
- 12:25[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, oh, wow, cool, Canada.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_02]: You know, wow, cool.
- 12:28[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you here?
- 12:29[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you coming to Cleveland?
- 12:31[SPEAKER_01]: Well, especially in the summer, it's nice to do these little, like, little day trips, get out the city, watch some wrestling, and obviously we'll be getting into our AW Dynamite review a little later in the show.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and for me, like Wednesday's Thursday's tend to be my weekend.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday's usually when we record like Patron stuff.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_02]: So we do have that day off to kind of do that.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_02]: So we did rush.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_02]: I made it to work.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_02]: I was exhausted by the end of my shift.
- 13:01[SPEAKER_02]: I had a lot of a, I did a, I did a you.
- 13:04[SPEAKER_02]: I had like a four spressos over ice and then I did it again later on and eventually my body's like, this is just placebo affected this point.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_02]: This, yes, this is stressful.
- 13:12[SPEAKER_02]: But, no, I survived that.
- 13:15[SPEAKER_02]: We had some fun.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think of, we got to go to a target course because we don't have that in Canada.
- 13:20[SPEAKER_02]: So little things, okay, the little, they had the hot one sauce actually.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got even more, how many bottles did you end up taking home?
- 13:28[SPEAKER_01]: I go,
- 13:29[SPEAKER_02]: fix hot source and you must have the whole set at this fix hot source and two different types of mustard I think right yeah wow so lots of hot sauce and Cleveland I had we had like
- 13:41[SPEAKER_02]: You know, late night, three a.m.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_02]: drunk food on the Wednesday night and it was like the only thing that was open was like these cow zones.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_02]: What was it like getting the cow zone or whatever?
- 13:50[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the most cheese I've had in a single sitting.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_02]: I think my body is still rejected.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't bad though.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_00]: I liked it.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty nice.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I always joke to you like, oh, I think I'm lactose or something.
- 14:02[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, after eating that cheesy goodness.
- 14:05[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, my body was like,
- 14:07[SPEAKER_01]: I think sometimes you just started, you know, like, we shouldn't be eating that, but actually it's really.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was weird because like bars there.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_02]: So we went into a bar and everybody's saying, like, you know, you're not the biggest drinker, but he likes to have some devil's letters once a while, but they had, like, cellsters, THC cellsters in some bars, including.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we have them, like, it's just so strange, like the different walls from steak to steak, a city to city and stuff.
- 14:33[SPEAKER_01]: So we've, like,
- 14:36[SPEAKER_01]: We see these alters all the time over here but only in dispensaries but the fact bars were selling them as an option as well was it was pretty cool I know they like alcohol free game is like really good proving like we're getting like quite a few more at our bar like the the Guinness Zero is so popular like it in the ice just like the real thing and and I think people do want alternatives from
- 15:01[SPEAKER_01]: like alcohol.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_01]: Like they still want to add a beverage.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_01]: If you will, they still might want to get a buzz or something.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that these places are actually selling like these saltses is is pretty cool.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_01]: And sensible.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like what you're just going to get high and order a plate and not chose for yourself rather than.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're going to make more money.
- 15:19[SPEAKER_02]: Essentially.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd say that you're going to be like, Oh, yeah.
- 15:22[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it's you.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, whatever the government ruling on weed and stuff is.
- 15:28[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 15:29[SPEAKER_02]: No, but it was a it was a fun little time in Cleveland and I'm sure we'll be back one day for some some more wrestling I don't mind trap people you're coming all this way for wrestling it's like now it's just an excuse to go visit some when there is a wrestling that's kind of been our info for a while it's like okay well if there is wrestling there mine mine is well go there when it's there and then go to it and do all the
- 15:52[SPEAKER_01]: the perfect like pre pre bar for the wallstein center where we went in and we didn't have too long we we have maybe like ten fifteen minutes before we had to head to the arena and we go do you have any specials and he's like oh no actually
- 16:10[SPEAKER_01]: five bucks gets you this stubby can and a little mini bottle of fireball and we're like perfect like a little a little stubby bottle of some local bear which actually it was like a pre-mail tasted pretty good timing wise it was like this is perfect like I can drink this I don't need to rush it it's small it's cheap and then we can get to the warstein center it was perfect it was like it was like when we went to the ECW arena
- 16:35[SPEAKER_02]: Last year, me and you were like, we have to pee in this line as long.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_02]: Quick, let's go to the quickest little bar.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_02]: We walked in and we're like, oh, we're not in Kansas anymore, but we quickly had a beer and made it.
- 16:45[SPEAKER_02]: I love little America dive bars.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I know Canada, America, it's like, hey, support Canadian and don't travel and a lot of Canadians are not actually traveling to the US.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_02]: And here we went to Dallas this year and now Cleveland again.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_02]: And like,
- 16:59[SPEAKER_02]: I love traveling and seeing other little places.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, I'll visit Canada and see things in my own country, but I still love you America.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_02]: You guys know what you're doing.
- 17:10[SPEAKER_02]: For the most part, maybe not so much, but I love you America.
- 17:15[SPEAKER_02]: America.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't I don't I don't love a whole lot of what's going on down there, but you guys got it you guys got good calzones So they know how to do the boss.
- 17:26[SPEAKER_02]: You know how to do bars better than Canada.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_02]: It's just you know how you guys know how to have a good time, you know what I mean.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I didn't I didn't I didn't get a four local this time, but I got a oh, what was it?
- 17:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a C from the WWE like pineapple power bomb
- 17:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh my god.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_02]: I took like three ships and I was already hung over.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, where is it?
- 17:49[SPEAKER_01]: I feel this has been maybe for the last like year or so.
- 17:52[SPEAKER_01]: When we when we go to the States and we go, I see, I see your eyes light up.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_01]: You see one of these huge cans of some bullshit drink and I go, Raiden, you're in your thirties now.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it's gonna be great.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_01]: And you try it.
- 18:08[SPEAKER_01]: You're crashing open all excited.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_01]: You have a sip and it just
- 18:12[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know if I can do this.
- 18:14[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_02]: I like getting like a forelocal because when we went to North Carolina for local now, we don't have this in Canada again, but the pre-drink ones, it's like a Mickey of like forelocal extra, not shit was like gasoline, but like sent the party started in a good way.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas like I like to do it ironically is like, all right, let's drink this and get the party going, but I do prefer trying like local
- 18:39[SPEAKER_02]: or even local, like, you know, we love our claws and self.
- 18:41[SPEAKER_02]: And those have blown up everywhere.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_02]: And I like now that I can try, like, breweries that make their own shelters, like the one we went to market garden and cleaning, like, local shelters are awesome.
- 18:52[SPEAKER_01]: We're not the biggest bear drinkers, but like, craft beer, like going to that to brewery and getting the beer from there.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I find it just, it's a matter of my stomach, it tastes nicer, like it, it just feels like fresh air.
- 19:04[SPEAKER_01]: I can't be doing those cause banquets in a can.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, had a great time in Cleveland.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
- 19:14[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so check out.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_02]: We did a whole catch-up of your trip while you were away.
- 19:19[SPEAKER_02]: We did a road podcast there, a snap run.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_02]: We went like forty-five minutes in the car and we were talking about your trip going to Oasis at Wembley.
- 19:27[SPEAKER_02]: I went to the weekend here at the Skydome and
- 19:29[SPEAKER_02]: kind of catching up on everything plus some wrestling talk and then uh... like you said some other little snap run is that you put together so uh... some some rated our content over on our patreon and of course you get all those shows plus all the other shows we did a best match ever goldberg recently if you haven't checked that out go check it out and uh... we have links to all the matches and the squash matches uh... are our love and praise for goldberg versus laparca and many other
- 19:57[SPEAKER_02]: squash matches, but we just did a was next where we looked at the June fifth, two thousand fourteen edition of NXT June, two thousand fourteen.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, where we talked about everything coming out of the first ever takeover, Tyson kid, Neville, plus Charlotte.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_02]: versus Bailey, which was pretty fun to go back and see the BFFs and everything.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_02]: But this week, we are going to hit you with a movie review.
- 20:23[SPEAKER_02]: David, you may go see this movie today, fantastic for first steps.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_02]: But this week, I thought it would be fun to go back and review
- 20:31[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say to your original, but I think there's even a further back fantastic for that.
- 20:35[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that something like TV, movie?
- 20:38[SPEAKER_01]: That was something terrible.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_02]: Some weird one.
- 20:40[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're going to go to two thousand five, a great year.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to look back at Chris Evans and his original superhero Marvel role.
- 20:49[SPEAKER_02]: That was revisited just recently in Wolverine and Deadpool, but we're going to look at fantastic for with Jessica Alba, Michael Chickless, and that other guy.
- 21:02[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who that guy is.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen this once.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_00]: I believe probably back in the day.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_00]: Fifteen years ago, ten years.
- 21:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably about fifteen years ago.
- 21:08[SPEAKER_02]: So by the time we review this, you will have also seen the newest ones.
- 21:10[SPEAKER_01]: So it was my great, great chart.
- 21:27[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 21:28[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be going away at the end of the month.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_01]: So we're also going to be kind of banking a few shows.
- 21:35[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're one of our people that follows was next, I advise watching maybe the next one, maybe even two episodes because we're going to try and bank a few little episodes and they're quite easy for us to kind of bid into a busy week.
- 21:48[SPEAKER_01]: Also going to have the next episode of the champ is here.
- 21:52[SPEAKER_01]: Still kind of trying to find a co-host for this one.
- 21:56[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping we'll pull someone out the bag.
- 21:58[SPEAKER_01]: The last second, but we'll be recording that just before you go away looking at the eleventh, right?
- 22:04[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're up to.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_01]: We select the number.
- 22:09[SPEAKER_01]: We do eleven of our.
- 22:11[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're up to eleven.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_01]: So the last one we had was money in the bank, which was the tenth rain coming to the end.
- 22:17[SPEAKER_01]: We're seeing punk winning and taking the title away.
- 22:19[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we're going into the whole, you know, the new championship, they'll create where frame studio will win it.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_01]: John Cena will win it off him and then leading to summer slam against CM Punk.
- 22:33[SPEAKER_01]: So some things you can be thinking about watching ahead to catch up in time for that and hopefully we'll be able to announce a guest.
- 22:41[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully your suit is choose that you show on offense.
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- 22:50[SPEAKER_02]: But everything in that back catalogue, all the wrestling, best matchevers, movie reviews, paid review reviews, so much more in that catalogue.
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- 23:31[SPEAKER_01]: It's, yeah, these last couple of months, we're sort of going to all in and me going back home and you're going away.
- 23:39[SPEAKER_01]: It's the schedule being a little tougher than usual, but yeah, we want to be getting through a lot of these up yours.
- 23:45[SPEAKER_01]: I know Chris Price has just picked WrestleMania twenty eight that will be visiting soon.
- 23:51[SPEAKER_01]: Brent Nichol, the Cowboy, I want to know what you've got for us.
- 23:54[SPEAKER_01]: I know your, your two.
- 23:57[SPEAKER_02]: I hope it's, I hope it's.
- 24:00[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I got to say Brent Nichol.
- 24:02[SPEAKER_02]: I think I shouted at him out, but on a recent detox, we go to random questions, right?
- 24:08[SPEAKER_02]: And people always ask us like, what favorite TV theme or for some reason, favorite cowboy always gets brought up.
- 24:13[SPEAKER_02]: And like, of course, I love Clint Eastwood, but my legit favorite cowboy is Brent Nichol because he's a legit cowboy over in the west side of Canada.
- 24:23[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe he'll pick another Western for us to review because now you have a cowboy hat, baby.
- 24:27[SPEAKER_02]: You can wear it.
- 24:29[SPEAKER_02]: We'll all wear our hats during the review, but follow us.
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- 24:39[SPEAKER_02]: We will be live this Tuesday as well post wrestling for some NXT talk.
- 24:43[SPEAKER_02]: I will be going away.
- 24:45[SPEAKER_02]: I did mention.
- 24:45[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I'm assuming we don't have too many
- 24:48[SPEAKER_02]: Japan listeners although I know that we do because I can I can see that we do sometimes.
- 24:54[SPEAKER_02]: But I will be going to night to a Peter Pan at Corcoran Hall.
- 24:58[SPEAKER_02]: But Davey I'm I'm a little low key mad because the day I arrive.
- 25:03[SPEAKER_02]: June Kessai is doing a huge death match like paper view show.
- 25:09[SPEAKER_02]: And the same day, O'Nita is doing an exploding ring match.
- 25:14[SPEAKER_02]: The day I land and I can't go because I'm like, I'm missing both of it.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so mad.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, ah, but then
- 25:22[SPEAKER_02]: June Kassai's kid is having his second ever match at Corcorcan Hall with DDT show and going to.
- 25:28[SPEAKER_02]: So at least I get to see maybe his kid will bring out the light tubes at DDT.
- 25:32[SPEAKER_02]: So in any off chance, anyone listening is going to be in Tokyo for DDT night two at Corcorcan Hall later of August.
- 25:39[SPEAKER_02]: Let me know with love to meet up and also any recommendations for karaoke or whatever DM please would love to.
- 25:47[SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to hear that.
- 25:48[SPEAKER_02]: You got to see some wrestling, as you kind of mentioned, you got Seamer Sadies over Red Pro.
- 25:54[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty cool.
- 25:55[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Mercedes, I got to see Naito and Bushi now going as Los Tranquilos to Japan.
- 26:04[SPEAKER_01]: Lod's T-shirts.
- 26:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the repro-title change, Michael O'Coovers is Ricky Knight, Jr.
- 26:10[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty fun match.
- 26:13[SPEAKER_01]: Jay Joshua versus Charles Samuels.
- 26:15[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jay Joshua is kind of one to watch.
- 26:17[SPEAKER_01]: He's sort of like a
- 26:21[SPEAKER_01]: Riddish Jacob Fattu.
- 26:25[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely got like a Jacob Fattu look to him.
- 26:28[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he was pretty impressive.
- 26:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a really fun show and great hanging out with Matti and Garath and the and the lads in Wolverhampton.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_01]: No nighto has not returned.
- 26:39[SPEAKER_01]: He was wrestling in in rev pro in answer to cheating the UK.
- 26:43[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 26:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 26:45[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
- 26:46[SPEAKER_02]: Well, all the wrestling all over the world.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_02]: Where do we even begin today with what's going on in the world of wrestling?
- 26:54[SPEAKER_01]: I would say the, I'd say some of the biggest news from this week is the, uh, WWE, PLI, ESPN.
- 27:03[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of letters.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_01]: Deal.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_02]: WWE with a new crazy what billion dollar something billions some few billion dollar deal there with ESPN where beginning in twenty twenty six they will be broadcasting the premium live events in a five year deal according to the Wall Street Journal this is a one point six billion dollar deal or three hundred and twenty five million dollars a year which is crazy now for us as Canadians citizens here
- 27:36[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't affect us.
- 27:37[SPEAKER_02]: We have Netflix.
- 27:38[SPEAKER_02]: They've signed that huge deal for Netflix.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_02]: We get raw smackdown NXT and all the PLEs attached to our Netflix.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_02]: So for Americans, this makes things a little bit different, right?
- 27:50[SPEAKER_02]: This now you have to have ESPN one way or another.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_02]: Now this is obviously like come out a few days ago and since then I don't I can't necessarily find what's
- 28:01[SPEAKER_02]: super clear and what's not obviously this doesn't happen until twenty twenty six, but if you have normal ESPN, do you get access to this?
- 28:10[SPEAKER_01]: By the sounds of it, it's not necessarily, I think it depends on who your service provider is.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe what I'm taking from that is, you know, sometimes you'll get a new subscription and a new cable subscription and they're like, hey, and you get Netflix for free, or you get Disney for free.
- 28:28[SPEAKER_01]: I think some service providers, if you've got ESPN, you are going to get this streaming service as well.
- 28:35[SPEAKER_01]: Others haven't necessarily got that deal in place, so you would have to be paying on top of that.
- 28:41[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, some people are going to be carrying ESPN anyway.
- 28:45[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, you've got a bunch of, I think the NPAs on there.
- 28:50[SPEAKER_01]: MLS, trying to think what other sports they've got, but you have see obviously.
- 28:56[SPEAKER_01]: So some people are going to be carrying this already in which case it's just like for us when we're already subscribing to Netflix and you've got the PLEs now on there, but for a lot of people it's a big price height when you've been paying
- 29:10[SPEAKER_01]: nine ninety nine for the last eleven years or in some cases with peacock that maybe you provide a gives you peacock for free like you've been getting this for free for the last uh five or so years and now you're uh having to pay another like thirty dollars on top of that
- 29:31[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot and and for me like I know there are lots of people who watch wrestling who are big into their sports and maybe it's it's a package that's worth it.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I only pay thirty bucks and I get WWE plus this sport plus this sport plus this sport.
- 29:45[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of us are also nerds who really don't give a fuck about sport.
- 29:50[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a big that's a big hike to just be paying.
- 29:55[SPEAKER_01]: for the paper views.
- 29:56[SPEAKER_01]: And you would hope that the quality of the paper views improves.
- 30:00[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was stuff I enjoyed on some Islam, but I think the quality has gone down in WWE in the last year.
- 30:07[SPEAKER_01]: And I certainly wouldn't say that there worth thirty dollars now.
- 30:12[SPEAKER_01]: You would also say, like, since going to the network, it's like these, these papers have been as important.
- 30:18[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's why they put less matches on or some fuel a bit throw away and bought this in center part incentivize them to put more effort in.
- 30:26[SPEAKER_01]: However,
- 30:28[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've been watching a lot of these paper views for this John Cena show where people were paying sixty dollars and they certainly weren't giving people their value then.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
- 30:38[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 30:39[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of sucks.
- 30:39[SPEAKER_01]: I think if we were in the States and then we'd have to legally follow WWE, you know, have
- 30:46[SPEAKER_01]: USA Network, NBC, CW, Netflix, and this ESPN plus or whatever they call it.
- 30:55[SPEAKER_02]: So much money.
- 30:56[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot.
- 30:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot.
- 30:58[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a lot of money just to be keeping up with WWE.
- 31:02[SPEAKER_02]: Again, for us, we are spoiled and I think we all knew as Canadians and and I think what the UK, right?
- 31:07[SPEAKER_02]: Like the there's it's not just Canada, but we're most opposed to the world.
- 31:12[SPEAKER_01]: It's really like it's really the US have the shittiest deal.
- 31:16[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting terrorists on their way for the consumers like yes, WWE are making billions like they're making so much money.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 31:25[SPEAKER_01]: out of this deal.
- 31:26[SPEAKER_01]: And they're still probably going to be having commercials on these paper views and absolutely Matt plastered with stuff.
- 31:32[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to be making money on top of money.
- 31:35[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like the rest of the world certainly had a deal.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we have Netflix and for me personally I've had Netflix for a long time probably over ten years where I pay and I get a bunch of movies and TV shows and I I like it.
- 31:50[SPEAKER_02]: It's been my favorite one that I've never necessarily dropped because it had a mix of every and since you know time you know that a new squid game's gonna come out soon or bring your things or whatever like yeah
- 32:04[SPEAKER_02]: The docs alone.
- 32:05[SPEAKER_02]: I don't at one point.
- 32:06[SPEAKER_02]: They were doing the the standup comedy stuff.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_02]: She fell in all like there was reasons for me to keep my subscription and it was it was totally worth it and then they added wrestling so it's like wow even better because we watch NXT for like Tuesday's already that was my job because at one point when we were roommates we were paying for these like
- 32:26[SPEAKER_02]: you had to pay like this crazy package just to watch certain wrestling and it's like why I don't want to watch a TFC soccer and all this stuff I literally just want the wrestling and it was kind of annoying where then it made us go to other means it made us find other ways to watch
- 32:45[SPEAKER_02]: wrestling and that's where maybe a lot of people might go back to jumping if it costs this much for for just WWE again I do hope that if you just have ESPN in your package table or whatever maybe you get some sort of access I know things in Canada sometimes you have
- 33:01[SPEAKER_02]: a cable subscription, then you get access to their apps, which allow you to watch their show.
- 33:05[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe, but it's looking like you have to pay for this package.
- 33:10[SPEAKER_02]: Again, even here, we get Disney plus that puts Hulu on the Disney plus.
- 33:14[SPEAKER_02]: So we get all those effects or whatever Hulu shows.
- 33:18[SPEAKER_02]: Bear or only murders.
- 33:20[SPEAKER_02]: That's all just part of our Disney here, but I do know in the States there there's changes with the Hulu in the day in the ESPN.
- 33:27[SPEAKER_02]: So they really want to try to make this app worth it and make people subscribe that it's risky if like wrestling like I personally would absolutely not pay for that because it's like that's a lot because you said it you got to pay you got to have cable to watch SmackDown or maybe just like
- 33:45[SPEAKER_02]: a basic cable network I guess but like there's so many things just to keep up with everything that it would it makes it almost sounds insane and i'm not saying wrestling fans are not smart it's just that's that's so much
- 33:59[SPEAKER_02]: like like so much to go through just to watch and keep up with plus.
- 34:04[SPEAKER_01]: It's like twenty dollars more and you're losing that back catalogue as well.
- 34:09[SPEAKER_01]: Like you'll be able to watch from when there's still starts.
- 34:12[SPEAKER_01]: I believe you'll be able to like, you know, rewatch the events that have been since twenty twenty six in this deal starting.
- 34:19[SPEAKER_01]: But if you want to watch the two thousand one rule rumble,
- 34:23[SPEAKER_01]: You can't, you know, like is that on the vault?
- 34:25[SPEAKER_02]: Is that how that's who it was?
- 34:26[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean some of it you would think you would hope that actually I guess it would be the stuff during the peacock time I imagine like you would hope that's going on the on the vaults, but I know I know then not like the most watch things in the world, but I think people do value them and to have all this stuff being like lost.
- 34:46[SPEAKER_01]: uh it was a worry when everything moved to Netflix like there's certainly like a lot of the the rules and Smackdowns have just been lost and are kind of hard to find and and keep up with and it's it's you're losing that and I just think there's like the last week I think
- 35:05[SPEAKER_01]: the WWE PR has just been horrible.
- 35:09[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just someone needs to, like, get a fucking, I always say about getting an acting coach into the PC.
- 35:15[SPEAKER_01]: Need someone with who has PR experience to teach fucking Triple H and Paul Hayman and the likes.
- 35:23[SPEAKER_01]: How did he make you?
- 35:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, like, it's, sorry, but it's, why, like, okay.
- 35:31[SPEAKER_01]: You, you bring back Brock Lesnar.
- 35:34[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of fans are completely fine with that.
- 35:37[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, I know a large majority are completely fine with that.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a lot of people who like this product who enjoy this product, who thinks it fucking stinks.
- 35:51[SPEAKER_01]: So you bring back Brock Lesnar and I'm like, oh, I don't like that.
- 35:56[SPEAKER_01]: This guy has been named forty four times in this sex trafficking lawsuit.
- 36:01[SPEAKER_01]: You then have triple eight come out and go, you know, Brock's going to do what Brock's going to do and you're like, hmm, wouldn't word it that way.
- 36:08[SPEAKER_01]: Alligations.
- 36:09[SPEAKER_02]: Just allegations.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_01]: Alligations is just allegations and then
- 36:13[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, by the way, guys, we're now going to be charging you thirty dollars a month to keep up with our programming.
- 36:20[SPEAKER_01]: And you go, oh, I already feel itchier about this.
- 36:23[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Saudi things kind of itchier for me, brought coming back.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of itchier for me.
- 36:28[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're going to charge me more money when, you know, when the network launched, you were basically telling me I'm a fucking idiot if I buy this on paper view because I could be getting it for ninety-nine.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have poor haven on the aerial Hawaii show being like, yeah, fucking deal with it.
- 36:44[SPEAKER_01]: He's back.
- 36:45[SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to do?
- 36:46[SPEAKER_01]: You can't cancel Brock Lesnar.
- 36:48[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why are you yelling at me?
- 36:50[SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed I'm your audience.
- 36:51[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a loyal audience member for fucking years and you're just like
- 36:57[SPEAKER_01]: You know, can like charging me more and condemning me because like I think it's stinky pork back this way.
- 37:05[SPEAKER_01]: What did he say?
- 37:05[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he's like, yeah, Jesus was criticized too.
- 37:09[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, we're Jesus names.
- 37:11[SPEAKER_01]: He compares into Jesus Moses Muhammad.
- 37:17[SPEAKER_01]: Donald Trump, JFK and, uh, and Lincoln.
- 37:23[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, what?
- 37:25[SPEAKER_01]: What?
- 37:25[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a lot.
- 37:26[SPEAKER_01]: It's a flavor.
- 37:27[SPEAKER_01]: I say there's one name on that list.
- 37:29[SPEAKER_01]: I'd maybe compare them to, but the,
- 37:32[SPEAKER_02]: and you know what like growing up listening to aerial like for years like is he he's just in this again all the respect to him but his show has come across like it's just a WWE TK owned property at this point he didn't press him in at all he just said oh yeah criticism it's like oh
- 37:49[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I think he's great, but it's mostly not like it's part of the show.
- 37:55[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming in, right?
- 37:55[SPEAKER_01]: No one has even, like obviously no one has bought up the allegations, but no one's even gone.
- 38:02[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so where did Brock go for the last two years?
- 38:06[SPEAKER_01]: Like is it isn't that just a basic follow-up question?
- 38:10[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you don't know, even if you're just a reporter for some random magazine entertainment magazine who knows very little about wrestling and you've been tasked to cover Brock Lesnar's return and the question it like Brock's back after two years away.
- 38:25[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing that would come to my head, oh, why is he being away for two years?
- 38:29[SPEAKER_01]: Was he injured?
- 38:30[SPEAKER_01]: Like what happened?
- 38:32[SPEAKER_02]: He was just in Canada hunting movies.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_01]: He was just being paid during this time when we're releasing, you know, women from this company because it's like sorry, just like budget cuts, we can't afford you.
- 38:45[SPEAKER_01]: And they've been paying this guy to fucking set on his ass for the last two years.
- 38:49[SPEAKER_02]: I was a little like, it's bad.
- 38:51[SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing some comments in the chat now.
- 38:53[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, man, like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not believing that this is like an actual in it.
- 38:58[SPEAKER_02]: Like this, he's, he's doing things and not really, he's like, oh, yeah, Brock's been criticized anyways.
- 39:04[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, wait, can we talk about that now?
- 39:06[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to talk about that.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was just
- 39:09[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little itky from me as a viewer and again, Heyman's just covering his tracks and leaning into it and everything and I don't know, look wrestling.
- 39:18[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see Brock Russell.
- 39:19[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to happen and I get whatever is basically, okay, they're doing it.
- 39:23[SPEAKER_02]: They clearly are going to go with that, but like just WWE in general is.
- 39:29[SPEAKER_02]: It's a giant money making machine and they're going to make money and they're going to take your money and they're going to now make you feel bad about giving you your money.
- 39:39[SPEAKER_01]: It's stuff like I and I hate how like trivialize the stuff gets as well and and you know there are people out there who just
- 39:47[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to read the staff and they just want to enjoy their wrestling and whatever power to you.
- 39:52[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I hate people trivializing it as mistakes.
- 39:57[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, to me a mistake is like, Braden, can you grab me a sandwich?
- 40:01[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure there's no mail on that and then you bring me the sandwich and there's mail on that.
- 40:05[SPEAKER_01]: And like, Braden, like, oh, sorry, I forgot.
- 40:07[SPEAKER_01]: That's a mistake.
- 40:08[SPEAKER_02]: You get really mad if a sandwich comes with mail or tube affair areas.
- 40:12[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 40:12[SPEAKER_01]: You don't accidentally shit on a woman's head.
- 40:15[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't accidentally say repeatedly repeatedly the N word and how you admit that you're racist and you don't accidentally set up a meeting as part of your contract negotiations to have sex with a girl like these are not accidents.
- 40:34[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 40:34[SPEAKER_02]: Mistake is you getting cut.
- 40:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 40:40[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the way the world works is like, oh, everyone's criticized.
- 40:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for, right, do it.
- 40:46[SPEAKER_02]: Do it for something.
- 40:48[SPEAKER_01]: So we just let everyone get away with everything.
- 40:50[SPEAKER_01]: I just accidentally killed that guy.
- 40:51[SPEAKER_01]: It was a mistake.
- 40:53[SPEAKER_01]: Let me off.
- 40:53[SPEAKER_01]: You can't cancel me.
- 40:55[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's bizarre.
- 40:57[SPEAKER_02]: And it makes you feel like wrestling is that escape, right?
- 41:00[SPEAKER_02]: Wrestling stupid.
- 41:00[SPEAKER_02]: It's people rolling around.
- 41:01[SPEAKER_02]: It's supposed to be fun and silly and entertaining and escape.
- 41:04[SPEAKER_02]: But when it gets all weird, like the Vince stuff alone, like, it's been in the news.
- 41:10[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone who doesn't even know wrestling kind of knows about this guy and like the stuff and the sleazy stuff.
- 41:14[SPEAKER_02]: And again, for people who have watched, look at the stuff he did on camera.
- 41:20[SPEAKER_02]: That alone is like,
- 41:23[SPEAKER_02]: I brow raising head scratching and yeah WWE they're gonna continue I wouldn't be surprised if we see Vince at the scene a retirement thing in some way shape performed like he eat
- 41:34[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 41:35[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird that they brought Brock back.
- 41:38[SPEAKER_02]: It's obviously they've announced a match for a Paris and it's not the Brock match.
- 41:42[SPEAKER_02]: So what's the next show after that?
- 41:43[SPEAKER_02]: Are they doing like a show for first?
- 41:46[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's Perth and then there's so there's the Crown Jewel show.
- 41:49[SPEAKER_01]: That's not really, right?
- 41:51[SPEAKER_01]: So it will be as it's standing.
- 41:54[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be Seth Rollins versus Cody as things stand for that show because it's how it can be championed deal.
- 42:01[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe Brock there if they can get Brock on that fly.
- 42:04[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I, I wonder it, like, is the Brock thing a longer term thing is Brock seen as final match.
- 42:12[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because like we went to the Detroit summer slam and we were like, that's probably Brock's last match and it's obviously not the case whatsoever.
- 42:21[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if he were to actually retire, again, you know, wouldn't be the worst where it's like a double retirement, but I don't necessarily think that's the case.
- 42:28[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll see him again.
- 42:30[SPEAKER_02]: We definitely will see him at WrestleMania.
- 42:32[SPEAKER_02]: We'll definitely see him at a Saudi.
- 42:34[SPEAKER_02]: Show.
- 42:35[SPEAKER_01]: So like it's yeah, it's like for me like Brooks impressive, you know when when we've gone like when we're in Detroit and so that match with Cody and stuff like when you see Brock in person you're like oh, yeah, this guy's a fucking monster right like he does have that thing about him but
- 42:57[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's that crossover appeal anymore.
- 43:00[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think you're bringing in any kind of UFC fans because Brock Lesnar's on it, because Brock's been doing this now for since when did he return?
- 43:08[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty, twenty, thirteen was it?
- 43:11[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty, twelve?
- 43:12[SPEAKER_01]: Like so, it's not, it's not like you're getting that crossover appeal anymore.
- 43:19[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've, they've got enough stars.
- 43:21[SPEAKER_01]: I like, personally, I don't know if Brock is going to move like a significant amount of tickets.
- 43:27[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I think you're wrong, but like, I think you might.
- 43:30[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 43:31[SPEAKER_02]: I think if this is Australia, that's a different country.
- 43:34[SPEAKER_02]: Again, a lot of people might not be into it like this.
- 43:38[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people are like, oh, Brock Lesnar's back in WWE.
- 43:40[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're coming.
- 43:41[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, let's go.
- 43:42[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go to the show.
- 43:43[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's their mindset or not, but like,
- 43:46[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I've been, just as a fan speaking, I've been over him even before all this.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, dude, like, kind of actually wanted him to go away.
- 43:55[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not necessarily like, oh, he's back and there's allegations in that, but oh, I do really want to watch him wrestling, not really.
- 44:04[SPEAKER_02]: No, like going toward Sina, kind of weird.
- 44:08[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, there's a lot of history there with Brock Sina going way back to like, two thousand two, even or three or whatever, but like,
- 44:16[SPEAKER_02]: I just think there was so many, there's so many other options.
- 44:21[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to not Brock at in Paris, but Logan Paul and I think that that might even piss off wrestling fans even more.
- 44:28[SPEAKER_02]: It just says like, wow, you're really wasting one of these things on the YouTuber.
- 44:31[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool.
- 44:31[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think I do think it's, uh, I'm not even shocked.
- 44:37[SPEAKER_02]: that they brought.
- 44:38[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, I'm like, and like the fact they said, like, I think it's unless there are charges or stuff that they're just going to power through this stuff.
- 44:48[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, like I wouldn't be surprising, advancement man return.
- 44:52[SPEAKER_01]: Like, especially if there's a settlement, if it doesn't go to bought or anything, if there's just a monetary settlement,
- 45:00[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I personally don't think we're going to see Vince in any sort of office or creative role.
- 45:06[SPEAKER_01]: Personally, I don't believe that.
- 45:08[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that company is doing well as it is and they like the people they've got in place and all that right now.
- 45:15[SPEAKER_01]: But could I see Vince appearing at scene as last match or more fame or anything like that?
- 45:21[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 45:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not shocked to this whole block thing, and I'm sure some people are excited that like, oh, hey, like Brock Lesnar's back.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go to that match for more time.
- 45:31[SPEAKER_02]: But she's like, uh, like, you were doing so well.
- 45:34[SPEAKER_02]: Summerslam night two was awesome.
- 45:37[SPEAKER_02]: It was a really good show.
- 45:38[SPEAKER_02]: And then Brock came out.
- 45:38[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it shocked me.
- 45:39[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Paul Aiman, and that same interview, Phil Wani is like, oh, yeah, you heard the crowd.
- 45:44[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone wanted that.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I think the sound was like, oh, shit.
- 45:49[SPEAKER_02]: And then everyone went, oh, shit.
- 45:51[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's also almost like, you know, almost like Pavlov stock like you hear the noise and just you react like you hear it with with like Hogga like real American songs everyone's like Hey, oh me at WrestleMania three five I said every I was like oh the music hit and like you know, twelve year old me was like oh shit, it's all Coggan and then I went oh yeah fuck this guy essentially, but you know, this is a TKO company and look what
- 46:20[SPEAKER_02]: UFC fighters get away with like if the money was right they'd have corner fighting you know what I mean like they don't give a fuck so really we're just you know sensitive wrestling fan babies in the eyes of TKO like oh you're mad about allegations child's play to what we're used to with UFC fighters and this and that and everything so
- 46:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
- 46:43[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm not shocked.
- 46:44[SPEAKER_02]: I can't say, like, will I watch it?
- 46:47[SPEAKER_02]: Probably it's WWE.
- 46:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's wrestling.
- 46:49[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still gonna watch it, but like,
- 46:51[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely wouldn't be paying the thirty dollars extra for paper views in twenty twenty like no like there's there's so you know what I can I can catch up on clips tick talks and and all that stuff but crazy beyond me that they they pull moves like this for certain fans I'm sure they don't give a fuck but for some fans it might be enough to be like you know what
- 47:13[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to watch this.
- 47:14[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say this past week is, and you hear this stuff all the time.
- 47:18[SPEAKER_01]: But years, I've never watched in wrestling again, but I feel WWE this past week was the most I've heard that for a long, long time.
- 47:28[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd say right back to when we were in like the doldrums of
- 47:32[SPEAKER_01]: Vince booking like it's this is the loudest it's been I've seen in this past week with just multiple you know the Brock thing the the SPN thing like all of that and and just the like the wackiness of this this scene
- 47:50[SPEAKER_01]: term, this men in black, nothing happens, it's so bizarre.
- 47:55[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, let we can all agree that it's best for business and best as a fan to just go back to being ham sandwich, John Cena.
- 48:03[SPEAKER_02]: But can we not agree also that the way we got back here is fucking terrible, like the turn will go back to it a million times for the honor of eternity.
- 48:14[SPEAKER_02]: But we were there, Chamber,
- 48:15[SPEAKER_02]: Toronto the turn itself what a moment.
- 48:18[SPEAKER_02]: One of the biggest moments biggest terms in WWE history and then the heel run itself is terrible and then they just pivot that you said hit the reset button turn it on and off again and they go add JK actually and then now we're just pretending like nothing's happening and kind of tongue and cheek without even having the tongue in cheek.
- 48:39[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like guys what like again wrestling fans I'm one of them
- 48:44[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a neuroscientist.
- 48:46[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a lawyer.
- 48:47[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a fucking wrestling fan.
- 48:49[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe I'm not the smartest person in the world.
- 48:52[SPEAKER_01]: But you've got it.
- 48:53[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to give us something.
- 48:55[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
- 48:56[SPEAKER_01]: You know what this was?
- 48:57[SPEAKER_01]: This was.
- 48:59[SPEAKER_01]: Some hell the Empress returned.
- 49:01[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah.
- 49:02[SPEAKER_01]: Palpatine's returned.
- 49:03[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, is that?
- 49:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, yeah, but sorry, what?
- 49:06[SPEAKER_01]: Just the opening of it.
- 49:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, BT Dubbs guy.
- 49:10[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, the Palpatine's back.
- 49:12[SPEAKER_01]: I will say, like, I think like I feel the kind of
- 49:19[SPEAKER_01]: Warm and fuzzies we're getting from this summer Sam match and I'd say SmackDown, like him it's seen her Montreal.
- 49:25[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe because we've been deprived of this for the last five months, it like, now we realize, look, there are less than ten dates this day has left.
- 49:35[SPEAKER_01]: and I think now and now we're finally getting on, we can embrace that John Cena and we're only gonna see this ten more times, nine more times, eight more times.
- 49:42[SPEAKER_01]: I think having the pause of the classic John Cena makes it mean even more now.
- 49:48[SPEAKER_01]: But my god, like you have script writers here, like, and there was no script.
- 49:53[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and I've been saying this way back when, okay, Travis start and the rock, like you've done the angle, they're not involved anymore.
- 50:01[SPEAKER_01]: The rocks, rocks are not gonna be involved.
- 50:04[SPEAKER_01]: Why you can still have him as a character who's mentioned like like like palpatine right like just having this off-screen figure that Cena can be like I'm doing my bidding for the rock even say like make it clear the rock's busy doing the rock stuff like he ain't gonna be around mania.
- 50:24[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing the rocks bidding here, but the fact that they
- 50:28[SPEAKER_01]: to start with ignored it and I know we were going back and forth before WrestleMania where you were like, no, it's, it's got to be a setup.
- 50:34[SPEAKER_01]: And then when we saw it wasn't and the rock wasn't there, you're like, oh, the fact that it just became a you people kind of thing.
- 50:43[SPEAKER_01]: and just not a gradual, like, I think the crowd would have turned Sina at Somerslam anyway, and maybe that would have been a more convincing way to do it.
- 50:55[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you do rock-hogan, eighteen.
- 50:58[SPEAKER_01]: I think that crowd were gonna boost Cody, and they were gonna be able to boost Sina.
- 51:03[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, boo, Cody and chair Sina anyway, and you could have just let that naturally happen, and I think we'd have been a bit more accepting.
- 51:11[SPEAKER_01]: instead it was just sauce guys.
- 51:15[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I was thinking.
- 51:16[SPEAKER_01]: And then on top of that, on top of that, like the whole R truth movement we had for the last six weeks that then everyone was so behind truth, bring back truth.
- 51:27[SPEAKER_01]: He comes back.
- 51:28[SPEAKER_01]: He changes his personality and then it's like, that'll just be wacky R truth again because you're back.
- 51:34[SPEAKER_01]: Just let's reset my character as well.
- 51:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 51:36[SPEAKER_02]: So the segment on SmackDown is the meatback stage and like, okay.
- 51:40[SPEAKER_02]: funny to an extent, but it's it's seen a gaslighting truth being like, oh, I can't believe you turned heel and turned on the people on our truth is like he are truth are truth, you know, like he did the like he's like, what did I do that is yeah, I did that, like, but even still, I think there was such a better way to, but like,
- 51:59[SPEAKER_02]: Watching, okay, mind you, I have not finished the whole season of this unreal show.
- 52:05[SPEAKER_02]: But you know something stuck with me, and I was talking with some friends about this the other day.
- 52:10[SPEAKER_02]: The clips of them planning WrestleMania, right?
- 52:13[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 52:13[SPEAKER_02]: There's a clip where Sina Triple H, I think Iraq, came in like a bunch of people are like planning WrestleMania and this whole idea to have us got the rock and the heel turn and everything.
- 52:26[SPEAKER_02]: And then they all go, yeah, we all got together in like thirty minutes.
- 52:28[SPEAKER_02]: We bang it out.
- 52:30[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how things work where you work, Davey or, but I know when I work at my job, which is a whole lot significantly less important than putting together a WrestleMania.
- 52:42[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty minutes in a whole lot of time to put things together.
- 52:45[SPEAKER_02]: So when they go, yeah, yeah, we bang that out.
- 52:47[SPEAKER_02]: Hands washed thirty minutes, being bang boom, Travis Scott.
- 52:50[SPEAKER_02]: No rock.
- 52:51[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, here we go.
- 52:51[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
- 52:53[SPEAKER_02]: No wonder it's fucking looked at as shit because what are you telling me?
- 52:58[SPEAKER_02]: You just went, yeah, what if Travis Scott comes out and helps scene a win and seventeen tight on that's it.
- 53:03[SPEAKER_02]: It was like that.
- 53:04[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you came up with this.
- 53:06[SPEAKER_02]: So when now we're looking at.
- 53:08[SPEAKER_02]: Look how they did the heel run.
- 53:09[SPEAKER_02]: Look how they've now turned the heel run.
- 53:11[SPEAKER_02]: Do they not have like.
- 53:14[SPEAKER_02]: Raiders like where's Freddie Prince Jr.
- 53:16[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
- 53:17[SPEAKER_01]: I also think like this should be the easiest thing to story book John Cena's last year.
- 53:23[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, when you're doing you should all wait I you would assume and hope they've always got an idea WrestleMania to WrestleMania where do we want to get to for next WrestleMania what main event are we thinking?
- 53:34[SPEAKER_01]: What obviously with that you're booking a whole paper view you've got all these other pieces moving around and we see years like this year where
- 53:41[SPEAKER_01]: punk is kind of left out.
- 53:42[SPEAKER_01]: So let's insert him into the Roman Seth thing and all that kind of stuff.
- 53:47[SPEAKER_01]: This should be easy because all you're focusing on is what is John Cena's final gear?
- 53:52[SPEAKER_01]: We've got twelve months.
- 53:54[SPEAKER_01]: We've probably got him on six pierleys or whatever.
- 53:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like a month to month, what is John Cena's story?
- 54:00[SPEAKER_01]: So the elimination chamber, he turns heel.
- 54:04[SPEAKER_01]: We have him heel at WrestleMania win the title and then we want him
- 54:09[SPEAKER_01]: a baby face by summer slam and we want to tell this story for December.
- 54:14[SPEAKER_01]: You should pretty much and obviously you have things like injuries get in the way, but I think you should have by the beginning of the year have mapped out.
- 54:23[SPEAKER_01]: who his opponents are for each event he's gonna do.
- 54:26[SPEAKER_01]: You go right, we're doing Randy here, we're doing punk and Saudi, we're doing Cody and Vegas, we're doing Cody again at Somerslam.
- 54:35[SPEAKER_01]: You should have that all mapped out and yes, maybe someone catches fire and then you pivot, but it shouldn't be the hardest story to tell.
- 54:42[SPEAKER_01]: because you've had a lot of time to plan this and you should just be writing for senior and everything around him and kind of that's your focus.
- 54:50[SPEAKER_01]: But as you say, the fact it's like thirty minutes fish, bash, bash, won't that be great?
- 54:55[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the big problem I think with triple H's booking this year.
- 55:01[SPEAKER_01]: Like I've said this before, it's like he's reached his
- 55:05[SPEAKER_01]: like all players third out like ran out of his yeah we we said this about Tony car not once hangman wonder that uh uh first title hit the first time his notebook of fancy wrestling booking that he's been writing for years has come to an end and then it's like oh now I've got to think what's beyond this
- 55:25[SPEAKER_01]: And it's WWE have become purely about moments and not.
- 55:33[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me of the walking dead.
- 55:35[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you so much the walking dead?
- 55:38[SPEAKER_01]: But then I realize I'm just watching to see who surprisingly gets killed next.
- 55:43[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm gonna have a few episodes where fucking nothing happens.
- 55:47[SPEAKER_01]: And then someone else I kind of like will get killed off.
- 55:49[SPEAKER_01]: And but all you remember is, oh, I wasn't it crazy when Glenn died or whatever.
- 55:56[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what they're doing.
- 55:58[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, wouldn't it be nuts if seen a turn?
- 56:01[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't it be nuts if Brock returns?
- 56:03[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but like we've got to tell a story here as well.
- 56:06[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just throw moments at us and I think that's enough.
- 56:11[SPEAKER_01]: Like you've got to justify these moments.
- 56:13[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to actually tell a beginning middle and end to some of these stories.
- 56:17[SPEAKER_02]: I think at the end of the day when it's all said and done in Sina is retired, like people will be like, oh, you know, great career and majority of fans, I think can agree that the last time is now this whole run has been a bit iffy, but if you do want to look at some positives, like we talked about our thoughts on SummerSlam before NXT on Tuesday and like
- 56:39[SPEAKER_02]: The match was awesome.
- 56:40[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly, Cody and Cena wanted to outdo what they did at WrestleMania.
- 56:45[SPEAKER_02]: They clearly had to chip on their shoulder.
- 56:47[SPEAKER_02]: They clearly saw some of the maybe negativity towards that match.
- 56:51[SPEAKER_02]: And they wanted to maybe prove themselves and prove everyone that they could.
- 56:56[SPEAKER_02]: And in my opinion, the Cena Cody too, SummerSlam main event is an all timer.
- 57:01[SPEAKER_02]: SummerSlam WWE big main event.
- 57:03[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully,
- 57:05[SPEAKER_02]: When it's all said, done, we'll remember that.
- 57:06[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what, we got through all this crap through the trenches, but when we got to that match in the moment, when we watched it, we sat at home, we had all the friends over.
- 57:14[SPEAKER_02]: It hit, it hit real good.
- 57:16[SPEAKER_02]: But that one match compared to months and weeks of just like drizzling shit, it's like fuck.
- 57:23[SPEAKER_01]: That match really, well, I don't know if we're going to see a match as good as that from Sina.
- 57:29[SPEAKER_01]: And in a way that felt like his retirement match, and now we're at the epilogue, you know, that felt like the main thing.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_01]: And now we're just like, how do we close this story?
- 57:40[SPEAKER_01]: We're in, I'm doing lots of comparisons, but we're in the last thirty minutes of Lord of the Rings now.
- 57:45[SPEAKER_01]: Where it's just, yeah, it's going on there.
- 57:46[SPEAKER_01]: So okay.
- 57:48[SPEAKER_02]: We just got Cody too.
- 57:50[SPEAKER_02]: And again, like honestly, one of my favorite scene of matches, I enjoyed scene of Cody too, more than I enjoyed both of the scene of rock matches at WrestleMania.
- 57:58[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think I think it's up there as some of his best stuff easily.
- 58:02[SPEAKER_02]: And I think everyone's kind of saying, it is much really good and it totally was.
- 58:06[SPEAKER_02]: We're going from that.
- 58:07[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to Logan Paul.
- 58:09[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to Brock Lesnar, which we assume Australia.
- 58:12[SPEAKER_02]: Are we going to AJ Styles as his last match?
- 58:15[SPEAKER_02]: But then something came up.
- 58:17[SPEAKER_02]: What is Sena's last opponent?
- 58:19[SPEAKER_02]: I looked at Sena's Wikipedia.
- 58:21[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a tweet from someone saying, Sena will possibly retire without being a grand slam champion.
- 58:28[SPEAKER_02]: Sena has never won the Intercontinental Championship.
- 58:32[SPEAKER_02]: You know who's the icy champion?
- 58:35[SPEAKER_02]: dirty Dominic Mysterio versus John Cena possibly should happen before John Cena retires because then he could go out holding all these different titles that he the one that's alluded to his whole career.
- 58:48[SPEAKER_01]: I and chief in the chats reminding us that Cena only has like ten dates left now.
- 58:57[SPEAKER_01]: Let's assume he's got three opponents Logan Paul Brock Lesnar and his final opponent.
- 59:04[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have much time to book any of these.
- 59:07[SPEAKER_01]: I unfortunately don't see AJ being a match.
- 59:11[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think, I don't think AJ's at in that level anymore.
- 59:16[SPEAKER_01]: I love AJ Styles and I don't mean that as a dick, but he's currently playing a comedy uncle-like character, which is fun.
- 59:23[SPEAKER_01]: It's been really fun to him and Dom, seeing what they're doing.
- 59:26[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if you're going to heat up a Zina AJ match with essentially one maybe two TV episodes to book it and I'm kind of thinking maybe maybe it's just Logan Paul and Brock and that's it we've got.
- 59:42[SPEAKER_02]: So you've seen Brock is the last one in Perth.
- 59:45[SPEAKER_02]: What about the last one?
- 59:47[SPEAKER_01]: Like right at the end.
- 59:48[SPEAKER_02]: Rematch it.
- 59:51[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe do the two matches or maybe you don't have the match until then.
- 59:54[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I think you've probably got three opponents left.
- 59:59[SPEAKER_01]: I need to find a list of what dates he's actually doing.
- 1:00:03[SPEAKER_02]: like you're doing you're doing Logan Paul in Paris and you're doing Brock Lesnar either in Australia or either at this like last time is now show right and like I don't know outside of Brock AJ who else I know so many fans on online and whether it's Reddit or Twitter like oh man just edge come over for one more match yeah in a in a perfect world we'd get one more face to face with those two that's not gonna happen but like I don't know who else like
- 1:00:33[SPEAKER_02]: fits that bill or we just go with someone else that they're the guy who gets the rub of i retired johnson like you know like someone else but i mean you could have like uh okay so we've got um
- 1:00:49[SPEAKER_01]: Smackdown in.
- 1:00:51[SPEAKER_01]: So we just have the Smackdown in Montreal.
- 1:00:54[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a Smackdown in Dublin Island followed by a Smackdown in Leon France and then the locally all match in Paris.
- 1:01:02[SPEAKER_01]: We then have Smackdown in Chicago, Aurora in Springfield, Massachusetts and then the crown jewel Perth show and then we have
- 1:01:12[SPEAKER_01]: Survivor series with no TV leading up to that, and then the retirement match in December, which people are speculating that maybe it will be a Saturday night's main event, which sounds horrible, like fucking.
- 1:01:27[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to cut his speech off.
- 1:01:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:01:30[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, you've got Clash in Paris, Crown Jewel, Survivor Series retirement match.
- 1:01:36[SPEAKER_01]: So potentially four matches there.
- 1:01:38[SPEAKER_01]: So Logan Paul, let's say you do Brock in Perth, Survivor Series.
- 1:01:44[SPEAKER_01]: Do you just put him on one of the war games teams to just
- 1:01:48[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of like Chamber and the Rumble, just a way you can have him.
- 1:01:51[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 1:01:52[SPEAKER_01]: Quickly face a lot of different people one last time.
- 1:01:55[SPEAKER_01]: I could see a Seth match down the line.
- 1:01:57[SPEAKER_01]: I think that is something you could do.
- 1:01:59[SPEAKER_01]: Although is there any juice in Cena, challenging for a title now that he's lost.
- 1:02:06[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need an age in the time title.
- 1:02:08[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:02:08[SPEAKER_02]: That's just none greedy, essentially.
- 1:02:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:02:10[SPEAKER_01]: And then the retirement.
- 1:02:12[SPEAKER_01]: So we're, we're possibly looking at two more opponents after Brock and Logan.
- 1:02:16[SPEAKER_02]: We said it earlier, someone in the chat job, nobly, I said, or like, what if Brock and Cena just retire each other?
- 1:02:21[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that'd be why Brock's coming in, but I don't know if you bring him in.
- 1:02:25[SPEAKER_02]: And all this stuff, there's some stuff online saying, dirt sheets saying this and that of a Brock was still under a contract this whole time being paid and everything.
- 1:02:34[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think maybe he would want to retire with Cena, but I mean, it's easily come back.
- 1:02:38[SPEAKER_01]: It's a horrible
- 1:02:41[SPEAKER_01]: it will be a horrible match in the ring, but is the rock a possibility for the final match like story and history wise and and you could actually you could actually somehow tie together with rock where it's like as soon as seen a like turn face the rock is on the phone a rock and being like what the fuck
- 1:03:04[SPEAKER_01]: You're my guy now, take out this guy.
- 1:03:06[SPEAKER_01]: Like seen it was meant to be with me.
- 1:03:08[SPEAKER_01]: He was meant to ruin wrestling.
- 1:03:09[SPEAKER_01]: Like you could tie that in and then final boss it.
- 1:03:12[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as a map, as a map, you'll be horrible.
- 1:03:16[SPEAKER_01]: But as a draw, like that's it.
- 1:03:18[SPEAKER_01]: That's a draw will be fucking huge.
- 1:03:20[SPEAKER_01]: So it would make sense.
- 1:03:22[SPEAKER_01]: It's the rubber mat, right?
- 1:03:23[SPEAKER_01]: They're one of these.
- 1:03:25[SPEAKER_01]: So that could somehow tie all this story together.
- 1:03:28[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if you're getting drained rest of this year.
- 1:03:32[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the Logan Paul thing.
- 1:03:35[SPEAKER_02]: I somewhat get it again, like I'm not shocked.
- 1:03:38[SPEAKER_02]: It's WWE, but I'm sure I'm not alone in being like really come on.
- 1:03:42[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many other people.
- 1:03:44[SPEAKER_02]: You want to see him wrestle and like again, Logan Paul is done pretty good at making people hate him in the world of WWE.
- 1:03:51[SPEAKER_02]: I think he fits in pretty well.
- 1:03:52[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong, but
- 1:03:54[SPEAKER_02]: selfishly as a fan you're like that's not really one people were just dying to see and as much as I can praise Logan Paul for being a great heel there's not many where I'm like oh I want to see Logan Paul versus so and so because he's he's just on the shows he's the shoe shoe horned in on these things the words like
- 1:04:13[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 1:04:13[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I was really high on Cody and Cena at SummerSlam.
- 1:04:16[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe this will be an entertaining match.
- 1:04:18[SPEAKER_02]: But just if you were to tell people that John Cena's retiring and in one of his final matches, it's going to be Logan Paul.
- 1:04:26[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be like, oh, that's really.
- 1:04:28[SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of where we're at.
- 1:04:29[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm not surprised.
- 1:04:30[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this was a room of WrestleMania match.
- 1:04:33[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:35[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't overly surprise me.
- 1:04:37[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
- 1:04:39[SPEAKER_01]: It could get some interest from outside fans.
- 1:04:41[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know obviously Logan has his fans outside WWE, but a lot of people know who John Cena is as well.
- 1:04:48[SPEAKER_01]: So that could get some intrigue.
- 1:04:49[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, like Logan has been pretty good in these matches.
- 1:04:53[SPEAKER_01]: So and we've seen like John Cena still has a little bit of gas in the tank, because that Cody Matt was great.
- 1:04:59[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it could be it could be a fun match, but it's one of those things when it's
- 1:05:04[SPEAKER_01]: When you realize we've only got these nine dates left, and this is one of them.
- 1:05:09[SPEAKER_01]: This is something I'm like, yeah, that would have been fun at the beginning of the year, or this would have been fun last year, or something like that.
- 1:05:18[SPEAKER_01]: When we've only got very few dates left, it makes it like, oh, we're going for this.
- 1:05:24[SPEAKER_02]: So that's confirmed for clash in Perry.
- 1:05:28[SPEAKER_02]: I am also assuming Drew McIntyre versus Cody Rhodes is something that we go toward.
- 1:05:33[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:05:33[SPEAKER_01]: I really like that angle, actually.
- 1:05:35[SPEAKER_01]: The Claymore through the side of the desk, like we said.
- 1:05:38[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the commentator, Joe, Joe, just lost his mind.
- 1:05:42[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
- 1:05:42[SPEAKER_02]: He lost his shit.
- 1:05:44[SPEAKER_02]: He was, oh my god.
- 1:05:45[SPEAKER_02]: I've clipped it.
- 1:05:46[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like he's
- 1:05:48[SPEAKER_02]: busted nuts to this.
- 1:05:53[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was great.
- 1:05:54[SPEAKER_01]: We've had this new table introduced since Netflix.
- 1:06:00[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it's more robust and there have been quite a few times people haven't gone through it.
- 1:06:06[SPEAKER_01]: You've got this essentially TV screen on the front of it.
- 1:06:11[SPEAKER_01]: this surprise me you know sometimes we see they're like obviously we see the spear through the barricade quite a lot but especially in NXT sometimes we'll just have a random wall set up at ringside that someone goes through and it it's cool like it still gets a reaction but it's a little hokey whereas I think this just really surprised people I thought it looked great and it
- 1:06:33[SPEAKER_01]: It's a much needed thing for Drew.
- 1:06:35[SPEAKER_01]: I think he I think he I think he did find weird chemistry with Logan Paul, but it is a weird pairing and yeah, you you can tell the guys frustrated like he had a hell of a year last year with the whole punk feud and stuff and
- 1:06:49[SPEAKER_01]: has kind of deserved a bit better than he's got now.
- 1:06:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see him beating Cody, but I think it is something you can really heat through up for and he can sink his teeth into a little bit and then continue that losing string streak at the clash show.
- 1:07:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I do think a heel drew versus Cody in this this like form.
- 1:07:11[SPEAKER_02]: I think this could be a really good story.
- 1:07:13[SPEAKER_02]: I think we get some good promos between them.
- 1:07:16[SPEAKER_02]: You have drew like continue to like steam roller and then like think that he could crush him.
- 1:07:22[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you even get one or two paper V matches out of this like a little bit of a rivalry kind of thing, but I think it's exactly what
- 1:07:28[SPEAKER_02]: Cody needed coming off the scene.
- 1:07:29[SPEAKER_02]: I think we need a hot heel to go after him.
- 1:07:32[SPEAKER_02]: And it's exactly what Drew needed because like you said, he was a big part of last year in this year.
- 1:07:36[SPEAKER_02]: He's just kind of been floating around.
- 1:07:37[SPEAKER_02]: So I think this makes total sense.
- 1:07:39[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's a pretty, hopefully they can do some good storytelling because you know, it's all about the stories and telling stories and so far, every story they've been telling me is not great.
- 1:07:49[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully this one can really connect for
- 1:07:53[SPEAKER_02]: the what the pair of show.
- 1:07:56[SPEAKER_02]: What else is announced for that?
- 1:07:57[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's been a few things clash in Paris.
- 1:08:00[SPEAKER_02]: What else is there?
- 1:08:01[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
- 1:08:01[SPEAKER_02]: I was at just those two matches now.
- 1:08:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:08:03[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we've got Stephanie the care taking on Naomi.
- 1:08:08[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
- 1:08:09[SPEAKER_01]: Because Stephanie the care won the match a evolution.
- 1:08:12[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 1:08:13[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 1:08:14[SPEAKER_03]: True.
- 1:08:15[SPEAKER_01]: Which I don't know if you'd go with the cake yet.
- 1:08:18[SPEAKER_01]: I think Naomi is is having some fun with this time.
- 1:08:22[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:08:23[SPEAKER_01]: And I think while the character is working, I continue with it.
- 1:08:27[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is one of those things that Stephanie Baker can come out like losing, but feeling like an even bigger deal.
- 1:08:34[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if she can put on a great match with Naomi, but for care is someone who I think will be a champion within the year, I could see like
- 1:08:44[SPEAKER_01]: a rumble win or something like that to build up her and EO down the line potentially.
- 1:08:49[SPEAKER_01]: But I would say Naomi is probably retaining on that.
- 1:08:54[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would have, I would have soon.
- 1:08:56[SPEAKER_02]: So there's other big WWE news.
- 1:09:00[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you said the word release earlier, Davey, we don't use that word anymore.
- 1:09:04[SPEAKER_02]: We don't use that.
- 1:09:05[SPEAKER_02]: We use
- 1:09:07[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, what do we use?
- 1:09:08[SPEAKER_02]: Contracts not renewed.
- 1:09:10[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, there's a wrestler that a lot of people have gotten behind, especially recently.
- 1:09:19[SPEAKER_02]: And he's finally gone from WWE.
- 1:09:22[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm wondering if you're feeling like how a lot of people are probably feeling right now.
- 1:09:29[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess we got a poor one out for.
- 1:09:31[SPEAKER_02]: To hoodie models gone from.
- 1:09:37[SPEAKER_02]: W-W-E at what were you?
- 1:09:39[SPEAKER_02]: expecting me to be talking about someone else?
- 1:09:41[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, a shanty, the Adonis, revealing on social media that WWE has not renewed his contract and that he's had quite a run these last few years in WWE, but it's not over yet.
- 1:09:53[SPEAKER_02]: I would assume he's got a place maybe with his boys in first class, possibly TNA or whatever.
- 1:10:01[SPEAKER_02]: So really, he's probably not that far removed from being back on NXT TV in the near future.
- 1:10:07[SPEAKER_02]: But to hoodie miles,
- 1:10:09[SPEAKER_02]: Shanti gone from WWE.
- 1:10:13[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
- 1:10:15[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're muted.
- 1:10:16[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, the only thing that kind of surprises me with this one is it didn't happen sooner, because as soon as him and Common Petrovic broke up on NXT, we're like, oh, one of these are going to be gone sooner and a shanti, you know, he's he's been in the company for quite a while now.
- 1:10:38[SPEAKER_01]: He's got talent like he's he's pretty fun to watch in the ring.
- 1:10:42[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty charismatic on the mic, but never really had anything to stick enough or really take him to that next level to make him kind of remembered, I guess.
- 1:10:52[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I could see this guy having having some fun on the Indies at TNA is an option.
- 1:11:00[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like he's they weren't using him that much.
- 1:11:04[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not really surprised by this one.
- 1:11:07[SPEAKER_02]: He had a lot of screen time with the Carmen stuff, but aside from being just the like lover boy kind of his character was he was a fuck boy really.
- 1:11:17[SPEAKER_02]: He was swagged out though.
- 1:11:18[SPEAKER_02]: He always had great fits and a good look.
- 1:11:20[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he'll fit perfectly fine in anywhere he kind of shows up.
- 1:11:25[SPEAKER_02]: But in other what seems to be releases or contracts not being renewed.
- 1:11:32[SPEAKER_02]: carrying cross and scarlet seemed to be gone from WWE.
- 1:11:38[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you could, you could look at all the great detectives in the world over the year, Sherlock Holmes, great police detectives in any country in any year, but no one is as good as a detective as WWE fans who keep refreshing the WWE alumni page because as soon as people pop up on the alumni page,
- 1:12:02[SPEAKER_02]: The internet sluice are hard at work to realize they must be gone from WWE.
- 1:12:08[SPEAKER_02]: If they're on the alumni roster page and that is where you can find carrying cross and scarlet.
- 1:12:14[SPEAKER_02]: They are on the alumni no longer listed as roster members of Raars Macdown.
- 1:12:21[SPEAKER_02]: So could this be it and if you want to take things even further Davy, if you're wondering, is this a work?
- 1:12:26[SPEAKER_02]: Could this be part of this storyline?
- 1:12:30[SPEAKER_02]: They even
- 1:12:31[SPEAKER_02]: removed his music from Spotify.
- 1:12:34[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, these detectives online are crazy.
- 1:12:38[SPEAKER_02]: So whether or not that's a work, you know, never mind Seth getting his wife and kid to sell his injury.
- 1:12:45[SPEAKER_02]: What if carrying Cross said you need to take my music down as well?
- 1:12:48[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if this is a work.
- 1:12:52[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of thinking it is, personally.
- 1:12:55[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've seen very recently that with this whole Seth stuff that they're not afraid of using
- 1:13:03[SPEAKER_01]: the real media, if you will, to try and get a story over.
- 1:13:07[SPEAKER_01]: And it's stuff like, there've been a few comments from, I think, I might be wrong.
- 1:13:13[SPEAKER_01]: I think Paul Hayman was wild him and in that interview.
- 1:13:16[SPEAKER_01]: And I know the guys on busted open as well have been saying about like, you know, the way you get this guy over is you make the fans at one hit.
- 1:13:25[SPEAKER_01]: You pull him away.
- 1:13:26[SPEAKER_01]: You had the we won cross chance at the,
- 1:13:31[SPEAKER_01]: the not presser at summer slam, which Triple H just served to being, oh, you hear that?
- 1:13:36[SPEAKER_01]: We want Brock.
- 1:13:37[SPEAKER_01]: We want Brock.
- 1:13:40[SPEAKER_01]: I'm...
- 1:13:41[SPEAKER_01]: I'm wondering like I am leaning towards this maybe being a work and they're doing the stuff like moving to the Illinois and the Spotify thing because they know people will get on top of that and hopefully they're hoping that on raw you know there's going to be those we want cross chance.
- 1:13:59[SPEAKER_01]: I think another thing with this whole WWE unreal.
- 1:14:06[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to see more things that they're staging for that show.
- 1:14:11[SPEAKER_01]: And I think having an episode about contract negotiations where you've got carrying cross and style at, you know, doing the Sami's aint story, their contract coming to an end, playing that out documentary form.
- 1:14:26[SPEAKER_01]: I could see that being a thing.
- 1:14:29[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I will say I think Cross is being quite entertaining backstage.
- 1:14:35[SPEAKER_01]: But in the ring, he's still the drizzling shits and these people chanting, we won't cross.
- 1:14:42[SPEAKER_01]: You deserve spending every dollar of that thirty dollars to ESPN.
- 1:14:46[SPEAKER_01]: This is just shit.
- 1:14:47[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be watching.
- 1:14:50[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you deserve absolutely everything you're getting.
- 1:14:53[SPEAKER_01]: If this is what you're calling for, like, God bless from killings, but if you're, like, just demanding that we need more our truth and carry across on our TVs, you are the problem.
- 1:15:06[SPEAKER_01]: Cause Daniel Bryan, he ain't.
- 1:15:10[SPEAKER_01]: You're muted, right?
- 1:15:13[SPEAKER_02]: The reason I think it could be a work is because
- 1:15:17[SPEAKER_02]: I could be wrong, but has Cross admitted that he was wrong about Sammy Zane.
- 1:15:22[SPEAKER_02]: I admit that he's a terrible person.
- 1:15:26[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was a, I might be wrong.
- 1:15:29[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trying to catch up on things like live.
- 1:15:32[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was something on like.com or something on Twitter or like not on TV, but I think there was something filmed showing that.
- 1:15:40[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, we've watched this guy for a long time before WWE, he's had some fun stuff and everything, but when he came to NXT, obviously us being like the NXT review, we watched a lot of them and we gave him so many chances and there was a lot of big matches where it just, it didn't hit and it felt like, oh, this guy's not that great in ring, but since being on the main roster with like the spooky gimmick and the like the
- 1:16:06[SPEAKER_02]: I know the stuff co-incident stuff that's kind of worked with this character.
- 1:16:10[SPEAKER_02]: It's gotten people into him and cool, but like the we want cross stuff like I watched the Sami Zayn match on raw before summer slam.
- 1:16:19[SPEAKER_02]: And I said on a show like, wow, okay, if we're going towards another match, like it's fucking Sami Zayn.
- 1:16:26[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't get a great match out of that.
- 1:16:28[SPEAKER_02]: Something's wrong.
- 1:16:29[SPEAKER_02]: And then they rematched it.
- 1:16:30[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I was like, okay.
- 1:16:34[SPEAKER_02]: maybe the summer slam match would be great.
- 1:16:35[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was one of the worst matches on the weekend.
- 1:16:37[SPEAKER_02]: So like I don't want cross.
- 1:16:39[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're good.
- 1:16:40[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to be having bad matches.
- 1:16:42[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, you've made Sammy's and have a bad match.
- 1:16:46[SPEAKER_02]: Like, come on.
- 1:16:46[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:16:47[SPEAKER_02]: So we always need room for spooky shit and wrestling and just how it goes.
- 1:16:51[SPEAKER_02]: People will get attached to these characters and stuff.
- 1:16:53[SPEAKER_02]: You said, like, the stuff he does as a character, this WWE storytelling, sure.
- 1:16:58[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool.
- 1:16:59[SPEAKER_02]: But I can't say.
- 1:17:01[SPEAKER_02]: Or like that's far from me like I don't know if it's spooky, but it's in that like, you know, he's more the devil on your shoulder, right?
- 1:17:07[SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah, so it's spooky.
- 1:17:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's somewhat, but it's it's like, why would I get excited if look what we go towards?
- 1:17:14[SPEAKER_02]: Like try so much stuff the when it's what Vince made him wear the mask and all this stuff.
- 1:17:18[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like by the end of the day when he wrestles, I don't want to watch it.
- 1:17:23[SPEAKER_02]: So like
- 1:17:25[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 1:17:26[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I necessarily one of these we won't cross people, but I absolutely not.
- 1:17:30[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you do so have the like the TNA partnership that you could, you know, if you're doing
- 1:17:38[SPEAKER_01]: contract story lines and things you could always just have him in TNA briefly to like move back or whatever.
- 1:17:45[SPEAKER_01]: I and I sniff a work with this one.
- 1:17:48[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I don't know why you'd put so much effort in carrying across.
- 1:17:52[SPEAKER_01]: As I said, I respect the guy for what he was able to do.
- 1:17:55[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he wasn't even on TV.
- 1:17:58[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, oh, it's a commercial break on Netflix.
- 1:18:00[SPEAKER_01]: Can I get sixty seconds?
- 1:18:03[SPEAKER_01]: And he was good.
- 1:18:05[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, I need to be able to be somewhat entertained when you're in the ring wrestling a match.
- 1:18:11[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I never be good.
- 1:18:13[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope he could prove us wrong, but like I, we, every time we, we go, okay, let's see what he can do.
- 1:18:19[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's just like, oh,
- 1:18:21[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it's it's not the most I can't say I'm a huge fan so it's kind of baffling me that WB fans are gonna fight to the death to make sure we have our truth and carrying cross in twenty twenty five when it's like They they could have great careers in TNA and other places going on like I wouldn't imagine a carrying cross going to a W or anything like that, but yeah, um
- 1:18:44[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of what's going on in the world of WWE, we're going towards.
- 1:18:48[SPEAKER_01]: Well, also Austin Theory has been mostly alumni section on www.com.
- 1:18:56[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen obviously kind of the relationship with Grace and Wallace come to an end and Wallace is now looking to be part of the new day as big G. But theory hasn't been on TV recently and was recently moved to the alumni section.
- 1:19:15[SPEAKER_01]: appears that also in theories may be left.
- 1:19:20[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, not necessarily a shock, but like considering when the last years Vince clearly saw some things in him, they had him job out at WrestleMania, but I mean, he was still on a WrestleMania.
- 1:19:30[SPEAKER_02]: He was on main roster, the stuff with he beat John Cena at WrestleMania.
- 1:19:34[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he beat John Cena in a terrible match, but
- 1:19:37[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, he hasn't necessarily done it for me.
- 1:19:39[SPEAKER_02]: I think when we first laid eyes on him like evolve when he was super young and then coming into NXT, I think everyone was like, oh, young Randy Orton or like, this guy could be a prospect and I don't necessarily think it got to
- 1:19:53[SPEAKER_02]: that level I think as soon as maybe people heard him talk they were like oh okay like decent wrestler for sure but still a young guy and I think if he were to be if this is true and he has gone from WWE I think he would have no problem landing somewhere else and doing bigger and better things but I can't say necessarily he'll be missed because he hasn't really been used a whole lot I don't know
- 1:20:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw potential in him at one point.
- 1:20:21[SPEAKER_01]: And even like when we were watching a bowl of that brief time, I didn't mind his promos.
- 1:20:27[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he came across well, I just, I didn't ever see any sign of improvement.
- 1:20:32[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, I think you look at him when he's, he's young, obviously he's young athletic, good looking, can wrestle, could talk.
- 1:20:40[SPEAKER_01]: But then you see like, oh, if this is what he's doing now, how's he going to be in five years time?
- 1:20:45[SPEAKER_01]: And like you look at the improvement of let's say a Kyle Fletcher, just in a couple of short years now, it's been reported that he's just signed a big deal with AEW and will be there for the foreseeable future and that they see a lot in him.
- 1:20:57[SPEAKER_01]: Like I could totally see a Kyle Fletcher as an AEW old champion within the next two years.
- 1:21:04[SPEAKER_01]: Um, absolutely.
- 1:21:07[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're night and day.
- 1:21:08[SPEAKER_01]: Like Carl Fletcher, he just dude.
- 1:21:10[SPEAKER_01]: One house and yeah, there was no evolution of what you say to Randy Orton thing, but there was no evolution of Austin theory, unfortunately.
- 1:21:18[SPEAKER_01]: And he's let all these people lap him.
- 1:21:20[SPEAKER_01]: He's let people who have come into the PC with no wrestling experience and becoming a bigger star than him.
- 1:21:28[SPEAKER_01]: It's
- 1:21:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a shame, like he is still very young, so maybe an indie run or something like that would be really good for him and he could improve and evolve again, part of the pun there.
- 1:21:45[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's I think I think being over pushed by Vince at one point hurt him as well You know who knows maybe comes back having a min as money in the bank We know when Romans on this hell of a runhold in both titles like you just don't buy him winning this but as you said like yeah, he could come back down the line.
- 1:22:03[SPEAKER_01]: He's still super young But let's let's see like how does he take it does he do like
- 1:22:11[SPEAKER_01]: a Drew McIntyre Cardona where they go out and completely reinvent themselves and put on bangers of matches on the indies and come back as a new man or does he just because he owns the name Austin Theory right who's having that poor I think it is yeah like does he just go and write up being Austin Theory the former US champion in WWE
- 1:22:33[SPEAKER_02]: We will see if there's a play, I'm sure there's a place for him in wrestling outside of WWE and maybe he can crew people wrong, but I think the last three years people were like, yeah, whatever, awesome Terry.
- 1:22:44[SPEAKER_02]: Lesson.
- 1:22:46[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's going on in WWE.
- 1:22:48[SPEAKER_02]: We can jump over to AEW.
- 1:22:50[SPEAKER_02]: We can start.
- 1:22:51[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned Kyle Fletcher.
- 1:22:53[SPEAKER_02]: signing this new deal with AEW.
- 1:22:55[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, makes total sense.
- 1:22:56[SPEAKER_02]: You saw after a few years of MJF and then the whole, what the quote unquote, walk out, did he make the plane?
- 1:23:03[SPEAKER_02]: Did he get on the plane?
- 1:23:04[SPEAKER_02]: I go, I got off the plane situation where he's like, hey, you signed me as a rookie and I'd become one of your quarterbacks.
- 1:23:13[SPEAKER_02]: So we need to talk turkey.
- 1:23:15[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's kind of what happened with Kyle Fletcher where it's like, hey, two years ago, I was in a tag team that you geeked out and
- 1:23:23[SPEAKER_02]: didn't really, not a lot of people to kind of knew who I was.
- 1:23:26[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I look like I ate that guy and I'm a bigger star and I'm becoming a bigger star and T.K.
- 1:23:33[SPEAKER_02]: Lock that down.
- 1:23:34[SPEAKER_02]: He wiped that up real quick, being like, yeah, you, you stay on this side here.
- 1:23:38[SPEAKER_02]: So Kyle Fletcher is all elite for the foreseeable future.
- 1:23:42[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that makes total sense.
- 1:23:44[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the guy has been on an incredible run.
- 1:23:47[SPEAKER_02]: You can't deny if you've
- 1:23:48[SPEAKER_02]: watched him in the last few, just the last year alone, he has become just an incredible talent to watch.
- 1:23:56[SPEAKER_01]: Really, like, maybe wrestler of the year.
- 1:23:59[SPEAKER_01]: He's up there for me.
- 1:24:00[SPEAKER_01]: The amount of, like, top matches he's had this year.
- 1:24:04[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, especially with this injury, it's not a given that it's will all spray this year, because the, the stuff called flashes put out there has been incredible.
- 1:24:13[SPEAKER_01]: Like, did you watch the, the Dustin match just long?
- 1:24:15[SPEAKER_01]: Do you watch it?
- 1:24:16[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
- 1:24:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:24:17[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just watched it today and one match that was that was so much fun.
- 1:24:22[SPEAKER_02]: That little few that they managed to like we were there dust and winning at Texas was great, but to do like a hardcore match where it's flesher getting his going back Randy Orton again, the Randy Orton Mick Foley like comparison there like
- 1:24:40[SPEAKER_02]: Fletcher went all out like alls to the wall literally with the thumbtacks in the dick, which terrifying spot.
- 1:24:48[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, okay, like Dustin from, Dustin and Fletcher from Collision a few weeks ago.
- 1:24:54[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't watched, I mean, we're a little late up talking about it, but I kept hearing so much buzz that I had to put it on.
- 1:25:00[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so glad that I did because on top of that, they got the music for Dustin.
- 1:25:05[SPEAKER_02]: It's a natural like pop for that.
- 1:25:07[SPEAKER_02]: But then you had me at the thumbtack iron claw spot.
- 1:25:14[SPEAKER_02]: But then totally I'll do themselves by pouring the tax into these guys balls, which was insane.
- 1:25:20[SPEAKER_02]: And then some of the other spots in this match for now.
- 1:25:22[SPEAKER_02]: It's the screwdriver, obviously.
- 1:25:24[SPEAKER_02]: But just incredible match between these two.
- 1:25:27[SPEAKER_02]: And now Justin's gonna go like get like double knee surgery or something like that and everything.
- 1:25:31[SPEAKER_02]: But a great moment for this guy.
- 1:25:34[SPEAKER_01]: just like, got to give all the love to dust in roads as well.
- 1:25:38[SPEAKER_01]: There are so many people criticize whenever there's older people in wrestling.
- 1:25:43[SPEAKER_01]: They're taking the spots for a proper breath.
- 1:25:45[SPEAKER_01]: But when you can still go to the level that dust in roads can't.
- 1:25:50[SPEAKER_01]: do it.
- 1:25:50[SPEAKER_01]: Like Dustin's put on so many fun matches in AEW.
- 1:25:55[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he overstays as welcome.
- 1:25:58[SPEAKER_01]: He can come out a few times a year to have a meaningful feud like this to put someone over.
- 1:26:05[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's completely the right move, putting the TNT title on him at all in.
- 1:26:12[SPEAKER_01]: Like if if flat should just one that match, it wouldn't have meant anything.
- 1:26:16[SPEAKER_01]: You know, flat should defeat Adam Cole for the title would have meant something, but as soon as that was out, it wouldn't have done anything to him.
- 1:26:23[SPEAKER_01]: So giving us that feel good moment of Dustin Rhodes having this title.
- 1:26:27[SPEAKER_01]: for a bletcher to then murder him, driving screw drivers into his kneecap and stuff like that.
- 1:26:34[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was great and I'm hoping, I'm hoping we get a pink version of this TNT championship coming out of this.
- 1:26:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 1:26:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I love it.
- 1:26:45[SPEAKER_02]: I love that he's like, yeah, Pink's lit.
- 1:26:47[SPEAKER_02]: It's my thing that like that's what you do as a wrestler.
- 1:26:50[SPEAKER_02]: You find things that work for you.
- 1:26:51[SPEAKER_02]: I know Brett Hartpink obviously other people have tried it too, but it looks good on him.
- 1:26:56[SPEAKER_02]: This guy is grown like we were at full year in Newark, just this past November and it was the Osprey match that I think some people like our boy way picked it as a match of the year.
- 1:27:05[SPEAKER_02]: Like that if that wasn't the eye opener for us for anyone that cage match with Will was just like
- 1:27:11[SPEAKER_02]: that i think that's up there i forgot that's up definitely up there and match the year for for this year like just incredible or was that technically last year no i forget now but which is guys uh... the cage one with page was revolution i think right okay yeah so like this guy it would be almost a great story if somehow fletcher where to be champion before will
- 1:27:32[SPEAKER_02]: And then will has to case him, but I don't just I was just going to say the same thing.
- 1:27:38[SPEAKER_01]: I think my my concern is NJF holding this.
- 1:27:43[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to call it a briefcase the clipboard.
- 1:27:46[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:27:47[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting MJF and Hangman for a bit of a door.
- 1:27:52[SPEAKER_01]: I think MJF loses that, but I do think down the line, MJF uses that clipboard to cash in.
- 1:28:01[SPEAKER_01]: And will most likely be the next champion.
- 1:28:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:28:06[SPEAKER_01]: I think Cole Fletcher beating Hangman Page towards the end of the full gear revolution even around then to be champion.
- 1:28:17[SPEAKER_01]: Give Hangman a decent rain, but then it's a top heel at this point defeating him in something fresh.
- 1:28:25[SPEAKER_01]: They might have had a match before, but I don't feel in this iteration of Hangman.
- 1:28:30[SPEAKER_01]: I think that feels really fresh.
- 1:28:32[SPEAKER_01]: And then having will chasing Fletcher where
- 1:28:37[SPEAKER_01]: London is a kind of adopted home of Kyle Fletcher as well, having that as the main event of Wembley.
- 1:28:45[SPEAKER_01]: For me, we've already seen Osprey and MJF at Wembley.
- 1:28:49[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Osprey and MJF had some great matches, but I think we'll chasing Fletcher at Wembley Stadium next year to grab the title.
- 1:28:58[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be huge.
- 1:28:59[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's something that the London pal would be
- 1:29:03[SPEAKER_01]: All in.
- 1:29:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:29:05[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
- 1:29:05[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly how I'm envisioning it.
- 1:29:07[SPEAKER_02]: Like the story there, if imagine if Fletcher were to get that title before Will, like, you know, comparing this to like sports, like of people who are considered like the best tenets players, but never get like this one thing where they're opponent that maybe they've beaten in other tournaments, but somehow they got their first and he's like, wait, how did you get there before me?
- 1:29:27[SPEAKER_02]: And now I
- 1:29:28[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like, you know, how, like, Seth Rollins won the title before Roman.
- 1:29:31[SPEAKER_01]: And like, Roman was like, the guy and it's like, oh, but this guy, he, and once you got that, like, Kyle can always, like, we'll compete him for the title, but Kyle was always in the champion first.
- 1:29:42[SPEAKER_01]: And you can hear the problem, I was like, no, no longer am I being compared to, or chasing you now you're chasing me.
- 1:29:49[SPEAKER_01]: And it rites itself.
- 1:29:51[SPEAKER_01]: And I think enough time would have gone since the last match where that would be a hot match to do next year.
- 1:29:57[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a test to them.
- 1:29:59[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, we've already just mentioned that they fought a bunch of times.
- 1:30:02[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that I'm like, yeah, I want to see that again, meaning they did it really well that we should run it back.
- 1:30:08[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, one, we got to do hanger versus Osprey one more time.
- 1:30:12[SPEAKER_02]: That was just too good to not do it.
- 1:30:14[SPEAKER_02]: But hopefully Will does wrestle at forbidden door.
- 1:30:17[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's another thing.
- 1:30:18[SPEAKER_02]: He's all over the poster and it's his hometown and all this stuff.
- 1:30:22[SPEAKER_02]: But like, we really do hope that he wrestles.
- 1:30:26[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was something where like we were theorizing that maybe he's trying to rehab for this show and then maybe get surgery after Fibonador and goes off for a bit with if he needs surgery or whatever.
- 1:30:41[SPEAKER_01]: But we were saying, you know,
- 1:30:44[SPEAKER_01]: a Zack match could be good, like they could work in their sleep and could probably work a really compelling match.
- 1:30:50[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whilst being kind of, well, you see what's wrong.
- 1:30:54[SPEAKER_01]: But now that's changed, right?
- 1:30:56[SPEAKER_01]: So now we've got this hallway.
- 1:30:58[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
- 1:30:58[SPEAKER_01]: Nigel McGinnis Lee Moriarty, head to Cero and I don't have the graphic.
- 1:31:03[SPEAKER_01]: Garcia, I think Garcia.
- 1:31:07[SPEAKER_01]: I assume Nigel McGinnis versus Zack Saber Jr.
- 1:31:10[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
- 1:31:10[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the most British match.
- 1:31:13[SPEAKER_02]: You could do Nigel McGinnis versus Zack Saber Jr.
- 1:31:17[SPEAKER_02]: in the O-To.
- 1:31:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:31:18[SPEAKER_02]: You, you, you, Brits are definitely getting that match.
- 1:31:20[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds awesome.
- 1:31:21[SPEAKER_02]: This card looks awesome.
- 1:31:24[SPEAKER_01]: But now that that does cast doubts in my mind for, uh, for us, right?
- 1:31:30[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, I'll spray.
- 1:31:31[SPEAKER_01]: I think we'll be on that show.
- 1:31:32[SPEAKER_01]: He'll do the Ray Mysterio.
- 1:31:33[SPEAKER_01]: He'll do the RBD.
- 1:31:35[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but if he is able to wrestle, who do you, who do you see in facing?
- 1:31:40[SPEAKER_02]: Fletcher.
- 1:31:42[SPEAKER_02]: Fletcher said, no, Fletcher said, oh, Fletcher said, oh, Fletcher, Fletcher, Fletcher fought Ishi on collision.
- 1:31:48[SPEAKER_02]: Then after said, he wants the best from New Japan.
- 1:31:51[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, by going off of your interview with Fletcher alone from all in weekend, I hope it's Tana Hashi.
- 1:31:58[SPEAKER_02]: I really hope it's Tana Hashi.
- 1:31:59[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be spreading that clip everywhere if it's Tana Hashi.
- 1:32:03[SPEAKER_02]: We need to start spreading it now so that when it does happen, that's the the the ace of New Japan Bad news and all are gonna go up against Fletcher and then Fletcher will stab him in the knee with the screwdriver and then Tonahashi will have to go get double knee surgery.
- 1:32:18[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go Well, let's leave Moriachi, but like can you imagine if leave Moriachi won't ever be oh oh
- 1:32:26[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely Nigel and it's got to be Nigel.
- 1:32:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:32:30[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we were at Dynamite and we had, honestly, one hell of a dynamite.
- 1:32:34[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed this.
- 1:32:36[SPEAKER_02]: It was totally worth going to Cleveland alone for Brodito versus
- 1:32:42[SPEAKER_02]: Not the young bucks, but what Max and when are actually Jeremy generation me dude that match was fucking great one of my favorite TV matches this year on top of that you had mocks and speedball which is great brisco and mjf like it was a solid diameter, but I thought to be there
- 1:32:59[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the wrestling on this show was really strong.
- 1:33:03[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there were a bit too many interviews and backstage statements throughout the show.
- 1:33:09[SPEAKER_01]: Like I could have done with like a big angle on the show.
- 1:33:14[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as wrestling goes and like I feel the wrestling is great on this show.
- 1:33:19[SPEAKER_01]: I thought people mocked as an opener was really enjoyable.
- 1:33:23[SPEAKER_01]: I loved the bit of
- 1:33:25[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Mox just completely disappearing and then poking him in the eye on the internet.
- 1:33:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't work.
- 1:33:32[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was great.
- 1:33:33[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, man, this this young bucks, ProDido match this character shift of the young bucks is completely working.
- 1:33:41[SPEAKER_01]: It's they're going to run out of ideas at some point, but right now they they haven't.
- 1:33:46[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what they've got in store next.
- 1:33:49[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, ProDido and what likely FTR, right for
- 1:33:55[SPEAKER_01]: Next week.
- 1:33:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're getting that match and like I don't know.
- 1:33:59[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of want Bro Dito to go forward.
- 1:34:01[SPEAKER_02]: All I'm like, I love this tag team already of
- 1:34:04[SPEAKER_02]: Bro, Bandito and Brody King, but that four-fifty combo is one of the danis things about that move is crazy.
- 1:34:14[SPEAKER_02]: I got a video of it while we were at live there, but like I don't how did they come up with that?
- 1:34:19[SPEAKER_02]: Like the one guy runs, I monkey flip you and then you do the four-fifty.
- 1:34:25[SPEAKER_02]: Like what?
- 1:34:26[SPEAKER_02]: it is actually crazy and every time I watch it it just it reminds me of we've joked because we're the same age of like uh lime wire mp fours of clips of like you know saboo doing crazy stuff like this would be one of those clips if we were thirteen day be one it's like
- 1:34:42[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, it's not a triple jump.
- 1:34:44[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, all right.
- 1:34:45[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like a hot wait.
- 1:34:46[SPEAKER_02]: This guy did a four fifties Burton like this.
- 1:34:50[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this this match was crazy.
- 1:34:52[SPEAKER_02]: It's the one jump of also where he launches him to the outside as well.
- 1:34:56[SPEAKER_02]: It's like holy shit, man.
- 1:34:58[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to see this right like the kind of watching wild sort of
- 1:35:01[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, he launched this dude and the bucks made it look like safe so they caught him and everything, but the bucks are tag team of the year like with this this run like they're they're killing it with the the stupid silly bomb ass bucks like they're gonna have to think of some other stuff you said like eventually where do they go these guys gonna be dumpster diving or they're gonna be like where are we gonna go with it, but I've
- 1:35:25[SPEAKER_02]: I've been loving it and I want to see more of it and I'm loving the tag team kind of resurgence coming back and where do we go with this?
- 1:35:33[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think this opens and interesting discussion with one of our other topics, which is all kind of linked is the
- 1:35:41[SPEAKER_01]: MVP speedball story right now there's there's been some stuff coming out this week about MVP and the hurts indica and you know being picky about who they want to put over now
- 1:35:57[SPEAKER_01]: The story going out there was that they didn't necessarily want to put over FTR and they wanted to put over a younger team.
- 1:36:07[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they've already gone through the Outrunners and Jet Speed and apparently there's MVP doesn't really like Speedball.
- 1:36:14[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they did put up that little kind of TikTok where they're both saying fuck you, which was kind of funny and I think a way of them being like, yeah, right, we're
- 1:36:22[SPEAKER_01]: We're fine.
- 1:36:23[SPEAKER_01]: We're good.
- 1:36:24[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:36:25[SPEAKER_01]: I can just imagine it's MVP just thinks he's a massive dog to be honest.
- 1:36:30[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I ain't having Bobby last week lose that guy, but yeah, I just can't see anyone being like legit have heat with this.
- 1:36:36[SPEAKER_02]: He seems like just a nice guy.
- 1:36:38[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no back state like we've met he's nice.
- 1:36:41[SPEAKER_02]: We know we've established anyone in wrestling.
- 1:36:43[SPEAKER_02]: So that story was kind of like, what?
- 1:36:45[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, weird.
- 1:36:45[SPEAKER_02]: And then that video is pretty much like don't believe like everything you read I guess.
- 1:36:49[SPEAKER_01]: So like
- 1:36:51[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird because I would say this would go in a few different directions.
- 1:36:57[SPEAKER_01]: Now we've got the kind of abrupt breakup of MGMGF with the Hertz Indica, however, all those segments have been backstage and
- 1:37:08[SPEAKER_01]: like the first one was like MJF kind of going like hey cameraman come here the one on Wednesday he's like hey get this turn route my face like very much drawing attention to the back that a camera is here so could it be a a rules in which case MJF is going to help the Hertz Indicate retain or
- 1:37:30[SPEAKER_01]: The Hurt Syndicate help him in this title off of Hangman, which seems a little soon, but maybe.
- 1:37:36[SPEAKER_01]: Now the other thing is they have legit broken up and
- 1:37:41[SPEAKER_01]: MJF helps FTR beat the hurt syndicate, which leads to FTR versus edge and Christian in Toronto, which I think would have been the original plan.
- 1:37:50[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
- 1:37:51[SPEAKER_01]: That just makes a whole lot of sense.
- 1:37:52[SPEAKER_01]: Edge and Christian going for the tag titles against the guys who put out a coat at all out.
- 1:37:59[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
- 1:38:00[SPEAKER_01]: That makes a whole lot of sense.
- 1:38:01[SPEAKER_01]: But if rumours are true about FTR, sorry, the hurts in the could not necessarily wanting to put FTR over and wanting to put over a fresh team, could Brodido be that fresh team.
- 1:38:15[SPEAKER_02]: I would love, I would love to.
- 1:38:16[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the hurts indicates a popular unit right now.
- 1:38:20[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't even necessarily want to take the titles off them, but the little quick teaming of Brody and Bandito, like, just showcases of how good those two guys actually are.
- 1:38:30[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're great people to have up in your show because Brody's, he's always put in the tag team with the, you know, his other guys, but since that, the injuries of Buddy,
- 1:38:38[SPEAKER_02]: This is kind of like Bantees just incredible to watch.
- 1:38:40[SPEAKER_02]: I think Bantees was the perfect example of when someone's like, oh, you like wrestling and then you show them like a bandito match.
- 1:38:48[SPEAKER_02]: Like you show them that match or anything you're just like, wait, what is this guy?
- 1:38:50[SPEAKER_02]: He's a he's an outlaw, luchador, but also he can gorilla press dudes and hit ponchas and four fifties like he's just awesome.
- 1:38:58[SPEAKER_02]: So I hope they kind of do win.
- 1:39:00[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if FTR
- 1:39:02[SPEAKER_02]: And Edge and Christian need the titles in Toronto.
- 1:39:05[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I think we don't necessarily need to get that route.
- 1:39:08[SPEAKER_02]: I know Edge or Cope can't attack FTR, but in some way, shape or form, they got the stokely Cope match.
- 1:39:14[SPEAKER_02]: If it is a match really like something's going to happen where FTR get costs the match, right?
- 1:39:20[SPEAKER_02]: So I would imagine Christian maybe.
- 1:39:24[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was still need to get to that kind of thing.
- 1:39:27[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you see MJF?
- 1:39:28[SPEAKER_01]: Do you see him sticking with the hearts indica?
- 1:39:30[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a rules.
- 1:39:31[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you see him?
- 1:39:32[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:39:33[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:39:33[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe true.
- 1:39:34[SPEAKER_02]: Like you could make it.
- 1:39:37[SPEAKER_02]: You could make it, it was all part of this like on screen thing where he's tricking people like a hangman or something, but I'm not quite sure.
- 1:39:44[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder as well, if you get a bit of, remember like, some Islam, ninety nine where Austin didn't want to drop to triple eight, so he just dropped it to mankind for a month night and then the next night.
- 1:39:54[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 1:39:54[SPEAKER_01]: And I, like, could we be doing that could Bro Ddo beat the Hertz syndicate only for FTR to beat Bro Ddo on a TV.
- 1:40:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:40:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:40:04[SPEAKER_01]: All out.
- 1:40:05[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
- 1:40:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:40:05[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:40:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:40:06[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
- 1:40:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:40:07[SPEAKER_02]: Either way, like those matches sound awesome.
- 1:40:09[SPEAKER_02]: Bro Dito FTR sounds great.
- 1:40:11[SPEAKER_02]: FTR this heel run hasn't necessarily hit for me yet, but I think if we give it some time, like the wrestling is their strong suit and they haven't necessarily been doing that as well.
- 1:40:22[SPEAKER_02]: It's yeah.
- 1:40:23[SPEAKER_01]: It's the stokely thing that just drags this act down.
- 1:40:26[SPEAKER_01]: I know he has his fans.
- 1:40:28[SPEAKER_01]: I know people find him funny, but you had such a, you had the angle where FTR
- 1:40:34[SPEAKER_01]: try to murder Coke, you know, they they're like repeated concerto snapping the neck all that and now you're just hanging around with this guy that complains that he can't get hose and he's gonna have a comedy match with Coke next week on TV and
- 1:40:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's less in them for me.
- 1:40:54[SPEAKER_01]: I think they should have had the heel turn and been an actual killer heel serious tag team.
- 1:40:59[SPEAKER_01]: Like you had that outrunners match on collision.
- 1:41:02[SPEAKER_01]: What's the way to go?
- 1:41:03[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.
- 1:41:04[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I can't think of any apps that Stokely has actually got an over.
- 1:41:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I feel he's there to just pop himself and crack jokes and but I don't like who's who's he ever got an over who he's paired.
- 1:41:19[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they necessarily need him in this group like they're already like taxes a pretty good talker so yeah I don't know if necessarily that is something that necessarily works for me but either way like when the wrestling hits it totally totally does and I'm looking at this forbidden door card.
- 1:41:36[SPEAKER_02]: It looks awesome.
- 1:41:37[SPEAKER_02]: Like you got you got O'Cotta versus Swerve already a paper view on going to be watching you got timeless timeless Tony storm versus Athena you got the four way Mercedes Alex Windsor who has been super impressive
- 1:41:52[SPEAKER_02]: Since coming into AEW, I can't say I was very familiar with her other than I hear she's with Osprey.
- 1:41:58[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, she's Miss Osprey.
- 1:41:59[SPEAKER_02]: But then, wow, when she wrestles so far, I think she deserves to be put on TV.
- 1:42:04[SPEAKER_02]: She's pretty good.
- 1:42:05[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a four-way.
- 1:42:07[SPEAKER_02]: There's obviously going to be some start-up and CMLL kind of.
- 1:42:11[SPEAKER_01]: Because at the moment, this pipe view is just the door.
- 1:42:13[SPEAKER_02]: It's just AEW, really.
- 1:42:15[SPEAKER_01]: It's the door.
- 1:42:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:42:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sure once the G ones over, I think we'll just get a few like random graphics of random matches thrown up and yeah.
- 1:42:24[SPEAKER_01]: To be honest, I think it's it's in its best interest at this point to just book big AEW matches.
- 1:42:30[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that London crowd are much going to prefer seeing an NGF versus a Hangman and a Swav versus a No Carter than, you know, a Hangman taking on
- 1:42:41[SPEAKER_01]: render reader or whatever.
- 1:42:42[SPEAKER_03]: No, absolutely.
- 1:42:43[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting much prefer this.
- 1:42:45[SPEAKER_01]: And you want, you want when the ghost oversees, you want to see the stars.
- 1:42:49[SPEAKER_01]: You want to see the show as authentically as it is.
- 1:42:51[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you can, you know, you can get a missed co-match on there.
- 1:42:54[SPEAKER_01]: You can get your your shingos and whoever on the show.
- 1:43:00[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think it's looking quite nice.
- 1:43:04[SPEAKER_01]: It's it does feel a bit of like a breeze a paper view, you know, you've had huge all in and I expect all out to be good to be big as well, but I think it's like there's some nice stuff on that card, especially the the two main men's matches they've been out so far.
- 1:43:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it looks like a stack show.
- 1:43:23[SPEAKER_02]: I'm definitely excited to check that one out.
- 1:43:26[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure we'll get some more match announcements in the next little while and some new Japan stuff.
- 1:43:30[SPEAKER_02]: It's a weird time because it's like the G one is going to be ending around this time, right?
- 1:43:34[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like
- 1:43:36[SPEAKER_02]: kind of like not fitting in with the Jason New Japan.
- 1:43:39[SPEAKER_02]: I've been trying to cherry pick some Takeshta G-One matches.
- 1:43:42[SPEAKER_02]: I watched him in shooter today as well.
- 1:43:45[SPEAKER_02]: That was pretty good.
- 1:43:45[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not fully caught up and I can't say I've looked at those scores and everything.
- 1:43:51[SPEAKER_02]: But Takeshta should be the white night.
- 1:43:52[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just repeat this until it finally happens.
- 1:43:55[SPEAKER_02]: But like New Japan guy.
- 1:43:56[SPEAKER_02]: I know steam at all in anything.
- 1:44:00[SPEAKER_02]: You couldn't try to get any of your guys over because I just don't think it will work.
- 1:44:05[SPEAKER_02]: You got this guy right here who could wrestle circles around everyone in your locker room, even your champion, he should be the guy to have the big main event at Wrestle Kingdom.
- 1:44:16[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, they don't have anyone else.
- 1:44:18[SPEAKER_02]: And I say, I think as a huge fan of Takeshita, but like, New Japan, you got him right there.
- 1:44:23[SPEAKER_02]: Go with it.
- 1:44:24[SPEAKER_02]: Please.
- 1:44:25[SPEAKER_01]: I really enjoyed the Zach to Kester match.
- 1:44:28[SPEAKER_01]: That's a match I have caught and I think with Zach, is that one that one, right?
- 1:44:32[SPEAKER_01]: I think that opens up have to Kester Windergy one, have the rematch in the Tokyo Dome.
- 1:44:38[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the best match on paper that you can put together with people you've got available.
- 1:44:44[SPEAKER_01]: I think that makes a whole other sense.
- 1:44:46[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's been having the great matches.
- 1:44:49[SPEAKER_01]: Pollock recommended the match against Yoshi Hashie, which is really enjoying it.
- 1:44:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I haven't heard the check out on that one as well.
- 1:44:55[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we're coming to the play of stages of the G-One.
- 1:45:00[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
- 1:45:01[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think to cash to make so much sense at this point.
- 1:45:04[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's that they're struggling though.
- 1:45:08[SPEAKER_01]: These attendances have been poor.
- 1:45:11[SPEAKER_01]: Young guys aren't getting over and and I think for all of
- 1:45:17[SPEAKER_01]: broader like criticisms about Vince like sometimes sometimes you had the right thing where it's like you know what I just got to go with this guy and I don't really if people don't like him I will just ram him down your throat until you do like him but the thing is they haven't done that with any of these new guys they've gone half been with all of them to a point where now these new guys have been there five years and we don't
- 1:45:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I think I think you're you're more or someone who like I've seen like leveled up I think just presentation and and the matches I've seen him have he's he's looked pretty good and I'd say he's someone who could break out of that pack, but yeah right now you're you're still having these
- 1:45:57[SPEAKER_01]: these problems, and it's a temporary solution, but it's a solution.
- 1:46:01[SPEAKER_01]: And I would go that as the biggest match you could possibly do in the Tokyo Diamond January.
- 1:46:05[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as, yeah, absolutely, like to catch this, just so entertaining to me, but like then putting him in the New Japan setting, it's like man, he's
- 1:46:13[SPEAKER_02]: clearing these dudes, like even the star power people are like interested like, oh, if you know who he is from Japan and history of the teens stuff, you're like, oh, it's cool that he's here.
- 1:46:21[SPEAKER_02]: But then if you don't, you watch him wrestle and you're like, oh, this guy's lit.
- 1:46:24[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, it's a win, win when you have him.
- 1:46:27[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as much as I want to see Tana Hashie versus Fletcher at forbidden door, Fletcher in the promo said he wants the best New Japan has to offer.
- 1:46:39[SPEAKER_02]: Could we see Proto Shita collide
- 1:46:42[SPEAKER_02]: with Fletcher versus the cash to because honestly, that's the match right there.
- 1:46:47[SPEAKER_02]: That would fucking cook.
- 1:46:48[SPEAKER_01]: If it's a little use to produce sheet of us is to catch them flat.
- 1:46:51[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, sorry, sorry.
- 1:46:53[SPEAKER_02]: Fletcher versus to cash to like a little bit of a flat.
- 1:46:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like
- 1:47:01[SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be nothing crazy.
- 1:47:03[SPEAKER_01]: But I actually do think the Tana Hashimatch will be the match.
- 1:47:06[SPEAKER_01]: I think Tana Hashim is that level person that you can just throw the graphic up and people go, okay, or you have him just come out and do his little pose and that's the match.
- 1:47:21[SPEAKER_01]: I think we'll see Fletcher and to catch the down the line, but I think for this forbidden door thing, I think, yes, we know to catch the, sorry, Tanahashi is not at his prime anymore, but I think if you say the best in New Japan, I think Tanahashi is still going to come to a lot of people's minds and kind of fits in with a little bit of this legend killer story that
- 1:47:45[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle's been having going on, you know, he brought up in and it was hard to hear because everyone was doing so much fun dynamite basically took claim of ending Adam Cole's career and now he's ended Dustin Rhodes career and now Tana Hashie you can see the promos right like Tana Hashie you're not going to make it to the Tokyo Diamond January because your career ends in August, twenty-fourth in London
- 1:48:12[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
- 1:48:13[SPEAKER_02]: I'm super excited for a bit in door with super jealous of anyone going to that show.
- 1:48:16[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know if you do would love some live insight and everything.
- 1:48:20[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely going to be an all timer and then we'll do a set for.
- 1:48:24[SPEAKER_02]: all out in Toronto, which I'm hoping we get to see Fletcher on that to catch on that.
- 1:48:29[SPEAKER_02]: Many of these stars, I'm sure that show is going to be awesome.
- 1:48:33[SPEAKER_02]: They've put out the new poster with Edge on the cover or sorry, cope on the cover.
- 1:48:37[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they'll have to make a new version with Edge and Christian on the cover.
- 1:48:41[SPEAKER_01]: This look like the most WWE poster.
- 1:48:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly.
- 1:48:46[SPEAKER_02]: They're just like Edge.
- 1:48:47[SPEAKER_02]: Look.
- 1:48:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's him.
- 1:48:48[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they did Osprey for London.
- 1:48:50[SPEAKER_02]: So it makes sense that they're like, yeah, we'll put our home town boy.
- 1:48:53[SPEAKER_02]: But also announced full gear is taking place in Newark.
- 1:48:58[SPEAKER_02]: This again, new, they just love going to Newark New Jersey for some full gear.
- 1:49:03[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you know, full in New York is a beautiful, it's, it's possibly my favorite time to visit New York.
- 1:49:10[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the Thanksgiving going to, it's like Christmas season.
- 1:49:14[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's beautiful.
- 1:49:15[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going.
- 1:49:17[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking to it.
- 1:49:18[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
- 1:49:19[SPEAKER_01]: I may have already reserved a hotel.
- 1:49:23[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know how I do things.
- 1:49:25[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really in isolation booking.com.
- 1:49:27[SPEAKER_02]: I I I raved about it before and I I'm going to do the exact same thing.
- 1:49:33[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go to
- 1:49:35[SPEAKER_02]: American dream.
- 1:49:36[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go on that insane Madagascar drop water slide.
- 1:49:41[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go on the Shrek water park, the way full.
- 1:49:43[SPEAKER_02]: Then I'm going to mose on over to the arena and watch some wrestling.
- 1:49:46[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably going to be, it was one of the greatest days of my life.
- 1:49:49[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to go do it again, I think.
- 1:49:51[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're thinking of going a full year in Newark, maybe we will see you there.
- 1:49:55[SPEAKER_02]: But cool that they're going back, I guess.
- 1:49:58[SPEAKER_02]: Am I not?
- 1:49:58[SPEAKER_02]: We take a bus?
- 1:50:00[SPEAKER_02]: I think the bus there, yeah, that just means that big boom AJ is going to do a hell lot of promo for that.
- 1:50:07[SPEAKER_02]: We'll pre-show again.
- 1:50:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bless them.
- 1:50:10[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there you go.
- 1:50:11[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's going on in the world of eight hubs.
- 1:50:13[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely excited for bitten door.
- 1:50:16[SPEAKER_02]: If you are in the Toronto area, I know we haven't put it up yet, but we will be doing a bit of a watch party at wide open.
- 1:50:22[SPEAKER_02]: So follow this space because it's during the afternoon and then the evening is NXT heat wave.
- 1:50:28[SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of messes up our day.
- 1:50:30[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll have to figure out what exactly we are doing.
- 1:50:32[SPEAKER_02]: But again, follow this space for some updates.
- 1:50:37[SPEAKER_02]: on that.
- 1:50:38[SPEAKER_02]: And then kind of won the last thing.
- 1:50:40[SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan Gresham posting here very, very scary week with what like, uh, uh, uh, who's hostileized, but was it a stroke?
- 1:50:48[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
- 1:50:49[SPEAKER_02]: Two strokes.
- 1:50:50[SPEAKER_02]: Very scary.
- 1:50:51[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 1:50:51[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:50:51[SPEAKER_02]: Hope he's all right.
- 1:50:52[SPEAKER_02]: All the power to the Gresham.
- 1:50:54[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 1:50:54[SPEAKER_01]: They sounded horrible, like, uh, terrifying.
- 1:50:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, um, what's it?
- 1:51:00[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Grace realized when she checked the, like, the doorbell camera and saw getting
- 1:51:06[SPEAKER_01]: getting like stretched it out to the hostile so flew back and it says he took thirty minutes to be able to call like the ambulance because he wasn't even able to move half his body and yes, very stuff like the guys who said seven like he's not much older than I am and it's obviously like
- 1:51:23[SPEAKER_01]: peak fitness like looking at the guy like yeah yeah he sounds very optimistic like he's like hoping to return a wrestling in a couple of weeks like I would say take that time like yeah but yeah very scary stuff so all the best to the to the octopus absolutely
- 1:51:43[SPEAKER_02]: That's all the stuff going on in the world of wrestling.
- 1:51:47[SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate you hanging out with us here.
- 1:51:49[SPEAKER_02]: We do this every week.
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