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The Eds: unEDited Wife Swap Edition: Shawn Trujillo · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: This is the EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin Ado Yave.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Eds. My name is Eddie Judge,
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  Speaker 1: I have my co host, and we have a guest
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  Speaker 1: that's been on our show before. His name is Sean Turillo.
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  Speaker 1: Hei guys, welcome back. Sean. We are gonna continue our
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  Speaker 1: episodes of white Swap with the house husbands. Were really
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  Speaker 1: interested to hear on your side. I got to see
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  Speaker 1: the show this last week when it aired, and it
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  Speaker 1: was it was a lot of fun to watch Angie
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  Speaker 1: struggle with such an opposite lifestyle that she lives, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was even more fun to watch how
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  Speaker 1: you guys live in that beautiful home and your dynamics
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  Speaker 1: as a family and your great relationship with your daughter,
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  Speaker 1: and how cool this whole experience was. I mean, I honestly, Sean,
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching it. I enjoyed watching you. You were
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  Speaker 1: so cool, so relaxed, so like in control.
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  Speaker 2: And thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I know that they edit stuff out that you know
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  Speaker 1: should and shouldn't be on show, but they made you
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  Speaker 1: life good brother.
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  Speaker 2: Well thanks, yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah they did a
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  Speaker 2: good job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was really entertained. So let's get started.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sean, what what actually made you say yes to
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  Speaker 3: the show? You and angew it actually made you guys
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  Speaker 3: say yes?
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  Speaker 2: You know, for us, it was kind of a no brainer,
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  Speaker 2: you know when they asked us to do the show.
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  Speaker 2: You know, obviously they got in touch with Angie and said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we've got this opportunity, and you're one of the first
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  Speaker 2: people that we thought of. And you know, just like
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  Speaker 2: anything else, we're usually game to do whatever. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was plus, you know, just a curiosity to kind
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  Speaker 2: of learn how, you know, somebody else lives their life
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  Speaker 2: and to see if there's any uh, you know, juxtapositions
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  Speaker 2: in terms of what the way they do things versus
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  Speaker 2: the way we do things. And you know, we're we're
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  Speaker 2: lifelong learners, so we're always we're always into kind of
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're up for the task and we're always
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  Speaker 2: into kind of learning new things.
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  Speaker 1: So that's rightesome, that is awesome. You know. We had
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  Speaker 1: Joe Gorga on the show last last week or two
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago, and remember and it was so much fun
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  Speaker 1: hearing him talk about the whole experience. One of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest questions we had, you know, because the interesting dynamic
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  Speaker 1: here is you and Angie have that awesome relationship where
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  Speaker 1: you guys can do a lot of things together. You
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  Speaker 1: obviously have a business together. Joe and Melissa spend a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time together and they have great dynamics in
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  Speaker 1: their relationships. And I think I have the same thing
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  Speaker 1: with my wife, but I would I don't think i'd
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  Speaker 1: ever wife swap, not even for four days. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I could deal with that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it all depends on who you get. We
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  Speaker 2: ended up plucking out, so, you know, but I think
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  Speaker 2: it could go the opposite direction too. Gosh.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine, like if you would have had the
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  Speaker 1: complete opposite of or let's say Angie on steroids, right,
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  Speaker 1: Because what I learned about Angie is she's very well organized.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she gets shit done. Obviously. It resembles a
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  Speaker 1: lot of what makes you guys successful. That she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: let anything sit right yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And and to think, okay, what what if? Because one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest questions I don't know if you remember this,
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  Speaker 1: d one, but we asked Joe like, what was the
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  Speaker 1: first thing that went to buying? And I thought, what
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  Speaker 1: if she's going to some billionaire's house and she's just
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  Speaker 1: going to be, you know, flying across the ocean to
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  Speaker 1: France to have lunch and come home, Like is she
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  Speaker 1: going to come back?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Right? You know that I did wonder that myself, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, well, you know, if if she does
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  Speaker 2: and he's a billionaire, it but you know, just no
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  Speaker 2: give backs, you know, you can have her.
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  Speaker 1: No warranty right right? Sold as is yep, yep.
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  Speaker 4: Who's more nervous about the switch?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think either of us were that
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  Speaker 2: that nervous. I think she probably her though, if I
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  Speaker 2: were to guess, I mean, I was just kind of
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  Speaker 2: up for whatever. But you know, she she was worried
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  Speaker 2: about this opposite thing, and she kinda She's like, gosh,
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  Speaker 2: what if I'm in the middle of the country or
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  Speaker 2: what if I'm you know, the opposite like with the
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  Speaker 2: billionaire or whatever. And she did end up in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of nowhere, and uh, you know, I think she
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  Speaker 2: was you know, Angie's always game for anything, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: made her nervous for sure to find out where she
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  Speaker 2: was going living off grid.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I can't imagine what was going through her head
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  Speaker 1: when she was standing there looking at the house and
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  Speaker 1: absolutely no grass, you know, no running water.
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  Speaker 2: How about that toilet, that.
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  Speaker 1: Toilet, the outside bathtub, I mean that is roughing it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I have a big question for you. If the
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  Speaker 1: roads were reversed and you were in her shoes, how
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  Speaker 1: do you think you would have handled her situation?
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  Speaker 4: Toilet?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I grew up kind of an outdoorsman. You know,
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  Speaker 2: my my, we went hunting, we did all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I'm no stranger to roughing it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, and you know, me and electric we
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  Speaker 2: still go. I mean, we've got a nice motor home
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  Speaker 2: that we use nowadays. But you know, we like campfires
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  Speaker 2: and we we have the ability to get through those things.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing, that the biggest challenge I
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  Speaker 2: would have had was that toilet. Changing that toilet, that
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  Speaker 2: was my god, that would have been the worst thing
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean even the toilets in the RV are luxury
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  Speaker 1: compared to what she had to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to see anything, you know. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it disappears, you know, there's it kind of
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  Speaker 2: works on the modern in a modern way these days.
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  Speaker 1: How funny how funny. Yeah, so I did. Really, another
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  Speaker 1: thing I wanted to mention is I did enjoy watching
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  Speaker 1: the dynamics between you and your daughter and Angie. You know,
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  Speaker 1: what I learned from the show is that Angie spends
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time just doing stuff, getting stuff done,
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  Speaker 1: which takes away from time together as a family, right,
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that you are there to take up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the support for your daughter. I find nothing
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  Speaker 1: more valuable or more needed in this world than spending
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  Speaker 1: time with your kids. Quality time with your kids, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And if parents are always working because they have to
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  Speaker 1: or because they want to or whatever, I think it
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  Speaker 1: affects the kid's future, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I just found it so awesome that you guys
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  Speaker 1: spend so much time together and do so many things.
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  Speaker 1: And she's so cool, She's just like so chill. She
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  Speaker 1: went with the whole thing. She had a few funny things,
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  Speaker 1: as she said, and it was really fun to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Yeah, I mean, obviously she's my favorite
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  Speaker 2: person to be with you and and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we we have a lot in common. You know, Edwin
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  Speaker 2: knows she's she's a on the National Equestrian Jumping Circuit
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I was raised with horses, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I get to relive my childhood through her eyes, albeit
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  Speaker 2: a different discipline. But you know, we we just have
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  Speaker 2: tons of fun together. We we joke around a lot.
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  Speaker 2: We have a blast, you know. But you know, as
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  Speaker 2: far as Angie goes, like, you know, she she does
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  Speaker 2: stay busy. But you know, I'm just gonna paint the picture.
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  Speaker 2: When Angie's you know, wiping off the count her she's
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  Speaker 2: also talking on the phone to Mary or Heather or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. So when I get things done, it's
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  Speaker 2: done in like five seconds. When she does something, it
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  Speaker 2: takes her like ten minutes because you know, she's talking
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  Speaker 2: on the phone, and she's moving around, and she's you
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  Speaker 2: know kind of like her mind's kind of going and
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  Speaker 2: and so you know, it's one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: That's hilarious because my wife would do the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: and she would justify it as multitasking. She gives me
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  Speaker 1: a hard time all the time because I can't do
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  Speaker 1: two things more than two things I want. It drives
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  Speaker 1: me nuts.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I'm the same way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I've read many studies and articles about this
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  Speaker 1: whole multitasking bullshit. I think it is bullshit, because, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, you just made a perfect point. You might
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  Speaker 1: be talking on the phone getting stuff done better, it'll
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  Speaker 1: take you an hour to wipe the car.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So that's funny. That's funny. Let's talk about you, your
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  Speaker 1: temporary wife, Lindsay Lindsay, right, Yeah, I really I.
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  Speaker 4: Really liked there.
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  Speaker 1: I think I thought, you know, I saw a very
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  Speaker 1: down to earth like, humble person coming into your lifestyle
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  Speaker 1: and not necessarily judging, but looking at all these amazing
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  Speaker 1: things that you guys have in your life, that she
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  Speaker 1: would be like, I can live without that. I can
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  Speaker 1: live without that, I can live without that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think was going through her head when
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  Speaker 1: she was like staying with you guys, the real thing,
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  Speaker 1: like not the TV stuff, right?
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  Speaker 2: You know, she was super cool, you know, just she's
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  Speaker 2: very very shy, you know, so you know there were
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  Speaker 2: moments where it was kind of hard to sort of
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  Speaker 2: I guess have that back and forth. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think she warmed up and you know, being on camera,
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  Speaker 2: I mean we had nineteen hour days, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: it was just like, I mean, you guys know how
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  Speaker 2: it is. Cameras every where they did the still cameras
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  Speaker 2: in the house and outside of the house things like that,
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  Speaker 2: so it was like you couldn't really go anywhere without
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  Speaker 2: being filmed. And you know, while we're used to that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing, she was totally like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: did I say something that wasn't you know, cool or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So she was kind of worried about how she may
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  Speaker 2: have been viewed or may have been edited or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, she is such a nice person. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're just such a great family and we couldn't have
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  Speaker 2: lucked out in a better way, you know. So we
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  Speaker 2: had a great time. I think she kind of saw
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  Speaker 2: the things that Angie does and the things that are
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  Speaker 2: kind of part of her daily routine as you know,
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  Speaker 2: well you know, not as not necessary. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: just like, okay, you know, these guys are are really
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  Speaker 2: focused on just kind of living and haveing to to
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  Speaker 2: it takes a lot of work to provide for their
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  Speaker 2: families and to you know, just do simple daily things,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So I think she saw a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this situation is maybe there's a bit of excess and
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  Speaker 2: and you know, and I empathize with that. I see it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I see it myself, you know, just walking
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  Speaker 2: around the house like, oh god, do you know, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: there's five bottles of pellegrino on the table right now,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, I know, Electra's the only one that
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  Speaker 2: drinks it right now, so it's like, why are there
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  Speaker 2: five open bottles? Right? And you start you start, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the register starts clicking and it's like gosh, and then
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  Speaker 2: I start drinking them, you know what I mean, So
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  Speaker 2: we're not waste them exactly. So I certainly see what
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  Speaker 2: she's what she was going seeing and what she was
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  Speaker 2: thinking and that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: So she was right.
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  Speaker 2: She was very very cool.
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  Speaker 1: I found it fascinating that you guys got the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to experience complete opposite lifestyles, right Like, you guys are
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  Speaker 1: living in luxury and they're living in in minimal and
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  Speaker 1: working their butt off every day. That's like. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the interesting things they said is like it's their
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  Speaker 1: daily gym. They go to the gym. They haul water
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  Speaker 1: like Edwin. They were these were five gallon water buckets
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  Speaker 1: that they had to go down the mountain to fill
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  Speaker 1: and carry up to the house and dumping a fifty
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  Speaker 1: gallon water container so that they have running water for
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  Speaker 1: dishes and stuff like that, and drinking water. I mean
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  Speaker 1: hard work, hard.
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  Speaker 2: Hard work. And you know, I mean what we turn
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  Speaker 2: on the faucet and get they have to they have
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  Speaker 2: to haul it, just like Eddie said, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it becomes a thing that you really have to think about.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you know, I can't waste this otherwise
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  Speaker 2: I have to go to the stream, fill up this
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  Speaker 2: bucket and bring it back up.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So what do you think she she What do
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  Speaker 3: you think she loved most about your home?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I I would say, just you know, the
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  Speaker 2: things that we take for granted, you know, the running water,
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  Speaker 2: the toilets, you know, things like that. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we have a lady that comes every week and cleans
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  Speaker 2: our house, and you know there are things like that
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  Speaker 2: that I think, you know, she would probably she probably
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  Speaker 2: would think about and think, God, that that would be
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool, you know what I mean. And but but
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  Speaker 2: on the flip side of it, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to just be able to walk into your place and
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  Speaker 2: just throw your boots on the ground and you know
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  Speaker 2: as where we you know, on the carpet on the
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  Speaker 2: floor mat before you walk in. No, she you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. So there are a lot there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of freedoms that that she has that that
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  Speaker 2: we don't necessarily have or or that we're mindful of.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know the things that I think she
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  Speaker 2: would appreciate her just the the simple necessities that we
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  Speaker 2: take for granted, like electricity for example, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: use solar and and all that stuff, and and just
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  Speaker 2: the running water.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever ask her like, would you go
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  Speaker 1: back to living on the grid or do you have
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  Speaker 1: any future desires to live on the grid or was
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  Speaker 1: that never a subject of conversation.
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  Speaker 2: No, we definitely, we definitely had a conversation about that.
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  Speaker 2: But what their plan is is to just kind of
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  Speaker 2: upgrade what they have. They want to they want to
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  Speaker 2: build it all out in the current dwelling to where
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  Speaker 2: you know, they have all the modern you know things
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  Speaker 2: that the necessities, the running water, you know, a good
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  Speaker 2: electrical grid, you know, like a higher powered solar system,
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  Speaker 2: things like that. So their idea is to continue to
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  Speaker 2: upgrade where they're at so they have those things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now it didn't reflect on the show, but Tamar
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  Speaker 1: asked me this question, and I don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: answer it, like do they do they not go to
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  Speaker 1: work or is their job like taking care of the
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  Speaker 1: house and the kids daily.
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  Speaker 2: No, they have a they have a pretty cool small business.
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  Speaker 2: They have a fishing gear company, so so they have
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  Speaker 2: their own brand of poles and taxs and like you know,
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  Speaker 2: just hats and all kinds of fishing gear. That's that's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and they do it all from casting rods
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  Speaker 2: to fly fishing rods and and things like that. I
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  Speaker 2: think recently, just over the last couple of weeks, they've
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  Speaker 2: they've entered a bicell agreement with a partner, so they're
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  Speaker 2: looking at some in that company and then kind of
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  Speaker 2: pivoting to something else. But you know, they they have
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  Speaker 2: had this company for a while now and for them, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so they're entrepreneurs on top of it.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: That's so cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool Edwin.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever aspired to live off the grid like that?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think I'd be the worst outdoor person ever.
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  Speaker 1: Have you camped or done any of that?
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  Speaker 3: I've done glamping, glamping, have never camped. Not made out
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  Speaker 3: for camping and vote and I grew up pretty rough.
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  Speaker 3: But camping, I that's just not my thing. Yeah, yeah, so,
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  Speaker 3: but I appreciate people that can do it. That's why
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm in awe of all this. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Before I met Tamra, I was like you and I said, Leo,
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  Speaker 1: there's the four seasons I am not going. And when
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  Speaker 1: she got me out to the desert and I got
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  Speaker 1: hooked on the desert toys and you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the one of the most amazing experiences I enjoy about
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  Speaker 1: camping is sitting there around the fire and just staring
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  Speaker 1: at the fire and listening to the crackle of the
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  Speaker 1: fire and just letting my mind calm down and not
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  Speaker 1: think about anything other than what's in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: It's the most peaceful experience I could I could think
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  Speaker 1: of when it comes to camping.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost a meditative experience, you know, when she's
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  Speaker 2: kind of hanging out, just you know, you can think
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  Speaker 2: freely and no distraction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know any other way of getting that,
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  Speaker 1: because I do know, and I understand the whole transcendental
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  Speaker 1: meditation and the value of it, but I I just
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  Speaker 1: can't do it yet.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough for me too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, what was easier to film Housewives are
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  Speaker 3: Over the wive swap.
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  Speaker 1: I was curious about that too.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think you know, I'll speak for myself.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Housewives was easier because you know, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: I have limited uh, I guess exposure on that show,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you know this one, Like I said, you know, we
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: had we had long days and it was just you're
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you're up at you know, six thirty seven am and
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you're going until the sun goes down. So you know,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: it was a lot more rigorous and there was a
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: lot more I think a lot more expected, you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: from me specifically, but I think Angie would say the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: same thing too. I mean, even though you know the Housewives,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you know she's filming a ton and she's doing a lot.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: But I think just the mere fact that you know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: there was just that those big days, you know, without
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: any break in between or whatever, it was was much tougher.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Guys, that does sound like a horrible day, you know.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a great experience, don't get
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: me wrong, but you know, we were we were tired
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: by the end of the day.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I bet I did also appreciate watching you do her
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: hair and giving her the makeup or the like makeover.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: That was pretty cool.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: She pulled me out of retirement.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so could see you in action. Thanks?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, I mean I haven't done that you know
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: stuff for quite a while now, but you know, like
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I said, I still keep my hands kind of in
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: it with with like Electra or whatever. But yeah, she
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: definitely pulled me out of retirement on that one.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Now, they didn't show at least I don't remember if
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: they showed you guys actually getting your hands dirty in
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the fish cleaning? Did you get did you get to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: do that, did Electra get to do that? Or were
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: you guys just watching.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I got to do it. You know, it's something that
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I was familiar with, so it was kind of easy
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: for me to just kind of go in and and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: do what, you know, what I've been raised to do. Basically,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you know, we did We've done a lot of fishing
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that as as we grew up in
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: my household. But yeah, I got my hands dirty.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Your daughter get into it or she's no.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: She was just like no, thanks, you know, I'm good.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: You know, right when she was about to kind of
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: you know, when the Lindsay was going to try to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: talk her into it, Marry walked in, so r he
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: kind of diverted that attention to to whatever she was doing.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know, I appreciate the fact that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Mary came in and you know, kind of observed what
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: was going on while her best friend was you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: yeah right rough in it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: She was genuinely concerned about both of us. You know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm gonna go see what Shawn's up to,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and then you know, we need to see if we
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: need to go save Angie.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hilarious and funny because I have some friends
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that do the same thing, Like when my wife goes travels,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they're like, would you like to come over for dinner?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You know, we can do this, we can do that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not incompetent, you know, I could take
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: care of myself, right, but I you invited me over.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Well, it's nice that we have people to keep an
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: eye on us, right.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I also saw that you guys were making a garden.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I want to do that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I just you know, living in a community association where
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I live, and you know, I want to have chickens,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: but you know, it will get kicked out if from
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: our joy if we writ chickens. But I just love
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: that whole part of living on the land, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: just as much and as little as possible. Like I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: would never have cows, as much as I love cows,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but I when it comes, when it would come to, like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know, slaughtering them, I couldn't do it. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: it just couldn't do it. So but I I don't
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: even know if I could do a chicken if I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: had to, But I think I would appreciate the fact
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that i'd have, you know, some chickens, laying some AIGs,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: some garden, creating some vegetables and fruits. What kind of
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: what kind of vegetation did you guys grow?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's one of those things too. Like
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: in our last house we had a little garden we
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: kind of do kind of the Greek necessities, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: like the cucumbers, the tomatoes, you know, the onion stuff
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: like that. And then when we moved to this house,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: we haven't really had a chance to like get you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that thing going. So it was a it was great
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to actually just kind of do this small box garden
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that she recommended we do, and gosh, it didn't ended
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: up being on. I mean, we do a lot of
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Greek salads, and you know it was cool to just
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: be able to walk out in our backyard grab whatever
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: we needed and then just bring it to the table.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: So you know, that was that was one of the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: highlights for me, and it was just kind of one
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: of those ongoing highlights that we could just go and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: do that every day.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I truly believe it. It teaches your children
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and the value of real food, you know, absolutely, because
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: if they never see where food comes from, they think, oh,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: everything comes out of a box. You know, let us
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: out of a box, right, It just sort that way.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Well it's like you know, you go eat you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: at a restaurant or whatever. I don't really eat tomatoes
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: if they're not out of the gard They just don't
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: taste like anything. So it was good to just get
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: this natural product out of the ground and you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: have it taste the way it should taste. And you
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: know it was it was great.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And then you're absolutely right if you can taste it,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you once, you'll never forget that. My wife and I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: were at our big Bear house over the weekend and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: we just took the dog for a walk, and we
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: walked by this house that had this tree with all
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: these apples on it, and they looked, you know, regular
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: sized apples. So I said, you know, I'm gonna grab one.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And I think she did a little video clip for Instagram,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: because nothing happens in my household that doesn't make it
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, right. So I pulled the apple, you know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: cleaned it off with my shirt and all that, took
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: a bite and holy cow, it tasted so damn good.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I like apples, but like lately they have tasted more
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: like water than apples. Yeah, and it's it's amazing what
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: natural nature really can't provide without all these chemicals.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Yep, it's just you know, it's completely different.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So are you guys keeping up with the garden?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we kept it up and you know, starting to
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: get cold here. I had to clean it out last week.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But you know, we we kept it going through the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: summer and we had plenty to to utilize everything that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: we planted and and you know, we basically used it all.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So oh cool.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Sean. By the way, where did you you know you
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you have obviously the cosmetology hair salon background, right, yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: and then you have this outdoor background that normally is
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: and they normally don't go together, right right, Horses cosmetatic
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: like that normally doesn't.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Go together, right, Yeah, they don't. What do they think
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: that from you?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Well? You know, I mean it was one of those
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: things where you know, I was always still kind of artistic,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: like I love the paint, you know, and I loved
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: you know, fashion, you know, to a degree. You know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I cared about, uh, you know, the way I looked
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. But and I always had that growing up.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I probably picked that up from my mom because she
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: always looks perfect, you know what I mean. It's like
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I've never seen her without makeup or done up, and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I think that rupped off. But you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: it definitely doesn't go together. And the crazy thing is
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: is when I was like nineteen, I started dating a
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: hairdresser and she's like, man, you should think about doing
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: this because I was raised in construction, and you know
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: if after a year year and a half, I thought,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you know, this could be cool, you know what I mean.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I saw a documentary on somebody that this is this
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: guy that was working on supermodels and stuff like that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like Okay, that could be really good, you know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: So Mitchell, well, yeah, his name happened to be John
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: sa Hog. He was an editorial stylist back in the day.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And you know, I went signed up for school and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I knew. I knew the first day this is this
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: was my thing.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So that's awesome.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, you do you deal with the stereotypes,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know, working in that business, you know. But the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: strange thing is is, you know, from day one, I
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: always had a girlfriend or something like that. But you
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: still deal with it, and you know, you get to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the point where you don't really care. You know, I'd
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: rather I'd rather do that than mix cement, you know
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: what I mean, so for a living, So you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I really didn't care what people thought, you know. I
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: just I feel so lucky, you know, over the last
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: thirty years, thirty two years, that I've been able to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: wake up and love what I do.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: One of the things I do to keep myself humble
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: is I haven't done it in a while, but I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: go back to the neighborhoods where I grew up and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: they're nowhere near where what neighborhood we live in now, right,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: So it helps me kind of stay humble and realize
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: that I've struggled and this is where I used to live,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and I look at the apartment where I grew up.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It's literally as big as my office, right, It's crazy. Yeah,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: So having that balance you know, of I mean, I
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: won't I've never done it, but I can't imagine working
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and hauling horses around is easy work. I'm sure it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of hard work. So unless you have you know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: seventeen staff members doing it all for you, you really
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: don't get the gist of what that culture is about.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And the experience of being around horses is about right, right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So I love that balance you have where you still
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: kind of ref it, but you also enjoy the luxuries
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of life, and I believe that helps us stay humble
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: right to understand and not just see, but feel what
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's like not having anything.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: You know, it's true, you know, and you see, you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: you hear it all the time. You know. It's like
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: people with new money can be a nightmare because they
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: forget about you know, they try to block out the
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: past and then some of the trials and some of
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the things that tested them, you know, through their early
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: life or whatever. But you know, for me, I much
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: like you, I do the same thing. I go visit
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: my old house, I drive through my old neighborhood, I
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: go look at my old church, stuff like that, And
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I think it really does just kind of bring you
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: back to center, right, and I think it brings you
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: back to a place of gratitude for sure. You know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: from day one, you know, I've always had to work
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: for what I have. You know, my parents, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: were entrepreneurs. There were ebbs and flows, and sometimes there
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: was a little bit more, and then sometimes there wasn't anything.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: So you know, I knew if I if I wanted
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: a new bike or a new skateboard or some new shoes,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that I had to go out and figure out a
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: way to do it, you know what I mean. So,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and to this day, if there's a penny on the ground,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I won't walk over it. I pick it up and
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I kiss it and I put it in my pocket.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my own wife always says, you know, we don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: live in in the ghetto anymore. A penny is a penny, man,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: even if it was a half a dam Yeah, that's dirty.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Don't pick it up now. I'm picking it up and
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I'm kissing it and I'm putting it in my pocket.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Because you know what the value of copper is right now?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, amazing how that stuff changes, Right.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, Edwin, how do you stay humble?
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I mean I think the same thing.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: So I'd love looking at like going back, and uh,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I still hang out with like all my
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: buddies that I grew up with. In fact, I just
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: took them to the Dodger game for the Championship series.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: It was like six of us and and then we
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: ran into three other guys that we grew up with,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and just you know, those childhood friends, I mean, to me,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the the For whatever reason, I was telling them this
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: the other day, some of my best experiences were with them.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: And I think as a child, because you really had
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: no worries back then, even though it was this humble
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: beginnings for me, Like I didn't have to worry about work.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I just was out there playing, having a good time
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: with the with the boys. Yeah, but stuff like that,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Like for me, the humility has always been sort of
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: for I've always felt like it could all be taken away. Yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: in a second, one bad move and it's all gone.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: And I think That's why I've never taken it for granted,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: you know, yep, and knowing what that other side tastes
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: like as well, Right, I want one bad movie, You'll
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: go back to that lifestyle.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So, you know, funny funny thing is, I've always told
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: myself I've been there. If I lose it all and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: i have to start over, it's not a big deal
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: because I've done it before. And this was, you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: most of my mentality growing up the last thirty years,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: trying to make you know, something of myself. And today
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to start over. Fuck that,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go backwards anymore.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: The good part is you know where you you know
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that you can you know, and I think, you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: three of us guys here like we know we could
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: what if we had to, although we don't. But I
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: think a scarier place is preservation mode. You know, you
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: don't want to be so scared to take risks that
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you know you're you're not in creative mind and building
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: something right, So but you know, it is great to
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: know that we could do it if we had to.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: One of the things that I've appreciated over the years
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: has been, you know, when I first met Teddy, I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: lived in the big house. It was probably six thousand
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: square feet, and I started staying at Teddy's condo, which
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: was like eight hundred square feet, right, And I found it,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: like I enjoyed going from a big house to a
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: smaller condo. It's just something about waking up and just
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: being able to just go to the kitchen, like, yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: it's pretty cool.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And similarly, now, like the girl I'm dating, same things,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: she lives in a nice little condo and it's nice
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: to just be able to just go and everything's right,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: right it versus a big house. It simplifies things, right,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: simplifies things to be said about it. I feel a
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: lot of peace, yeah, in in that.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So that's I got a funny story for you guys.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: The last couple of years when we bought a house
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in Big Bear. It's a small little house, probably twenty
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: five hundred square feet, four bedrooms, and we've redone it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And that's because Tammer just loves that's kind of like
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: her escape, you know, just to redo the house inside
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it out, and she just loves it. So we did
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a great job with this house and now we've made
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: it our own. It's very cozy. It feels like at home,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, we get when we have guests over,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: they love the what she's done to it. So it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: feels good that her creativity is you know, appreciated.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So, now that we're done with that phase, we're like, well,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: should we get a bigger house out here in Big Bear?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And the first thing I'm thinking, like, I'm the one
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that has to clean this damn yard. Yeah, And this
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: last week, because of the season we're in, I had to.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not a lot of work, but I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: had to blow all the leaves and acorns off the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: deck and just clean the damn yard. But normally I
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: do that when we get there and then it's done.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: This last week, I was doing it every other day
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: because it was coming down that hard and I'm like,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I'm done with these trees. Were taking them out right.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But my thought was like, do I really want to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: live up here? Because this is a lot of freaking work.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And then we went to a Octoberfest celebration, which is fun.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: It's so unique up there because it's such a different environment.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: And we met a young couple that were friends of
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: friends that live here in Madera and their parents own
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest houses that's near the slopes. There's
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a street called Switzerland that's right by the slopes. Right
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: The actual street is a shithold. There's potholes everywhere. But
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: when we first moved up there, you know, we're kind
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: of looking around, walking around, and we walked by this
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: neighborhood and there's like five or six giant homes like
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: ten thousand square foot two acres, like you can see
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: it from the street, and you're like, who the hell
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: buys or owns a house that big, eight bedrooms, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it's like giant. So they invited us over and sure enough,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: it's that big, giant house that's for sale. It's eight bedrooms,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: it's tall, tall, like twenty five thirty foot ceilings. It
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: was incredible to see. But what was the first thing
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that I thought? Can you imagine the maintenance on this
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: fucking house?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, thank you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I don't want it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's never ending when you get into
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that range, you know.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And again I also appreciate and understand. You know, if
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you have that kind of money, you probably not blowing
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: your own down.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: You know, you're probably right.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: But and it's not that I can't afford it. I
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: just I like doing that stuff because it makes me
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: feel young, right. It makes me feel like I can
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: when I get stiff because I haven't moved, or I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: haven't exercise or I haven't worked out. You guys know
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: that feeling. You feel stagnant, you feel sick, you feel
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: like you're getting old. So I like to move and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: do things. And that's the main reason why I do
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: my own kind of lawn keeping at the house in
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Big Beer. First of all, there's not a lot to do.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: It's just blow leaves, right and during the winter, you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I have gone out there and blowing the snow off
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the driveway. It took me two hours. But it makes
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: me feel young. It makes me feel like as long
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: as I could still dig a hole or ditch with
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that shovelin, I think I'm doing pretty good health wise.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you on that, you know, And it's
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: certainly not that you couldn't hire somebody to do it,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: but you know, if you can do it, and you
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: can make time to do it, you feel you feel
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: responsible and capable, right, Like it makes sense, like if
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you have the ability to fix something in your yard
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: or on your house. You feel capable, you know. So,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: so I'm with you on that. I try. I try
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to only hire out what I have to, right.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I think the keyword there, Sean, is if you can.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah for me, I watch those reels of like people
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: trying to do handyman shit and they always get hurt.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: They'll fall from the ladder or some shit just happens.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that would be me do some handyman stuff.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: I would get hurt.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Well, when you get at my advanced stage, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you definitely want to stay away from a ladder if
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: it's over ten feet, you know for sure.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I used to have no problem climbing trees when I
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: was a kid, and I didn't even think about the fall.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: But now when I go up a big ladder like that,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe I should hire somebody.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when you hit the ground, it's going to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: be a little bit different these you know, Sean, So,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: did you after just going back to the show, is
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: there anything that you experienced on the show that you're
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: gonna implement now.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: With with the wife swap?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the household, Well, I'm definitely gonna keep that garden up.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. But you know, I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: in addition to that, you know, it's just me and
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Angie coming together and seeing that you know, she doesn't
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: have to create so much busy work for herself. You know.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes like at the end of the day,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you know, so so me and Electra like to sit
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: down and watch a movie or a series, you know,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, and it's just kind
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of our way to chill. But more importantly, it's really
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the only time I get to have Electra sitting right
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: next to me, and I love that, you know what
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I mean. And it's like, even though we're watching something,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll have a conversation about you know, a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: scene or whatever. I'll tease her about something or you know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: if there's you know, right now, she's really into like
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Cobra Kai and Stranger Things. And it's like when we're
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: watching that, I'm like, I'm like, so, so, who do
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: you have a crush on? You know, so I can
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: start doing things like that, you know what I mean.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's just really a special time for
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: me because she's right next to me. I get to hugger,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I get to have my arm around her stuff like that. So, yeah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it's such a.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Good point Sean, by the way, in regards to busy work,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: like I've found myself prior to all the stuff with
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Teddy's situation, in our situation, I was always creating busy
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: work for myself. And one of the things that I've
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: learned from going through this situation is I stopped with
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the busy work and I've found myself with a lot
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: more time to enjoy stuff right right. It's interesting that
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: you said that, because it's a very true thing, like
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: you just start creating busy work and you're just busy,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Like I literally would look for stuff to do or
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: look for wrong things, like I've got to check on
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: this because some be going wrong herest part and I've
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: just kind of let go. And it's probably so much peace.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: No, it really does. And you know, and I think
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: the other we get, the more more knowledge we gain
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: in terms of like this situation in general, not having
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the busy work. It's like, you know, there's always something
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: that can be done or whatever, but do you need
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to does it have to be done right now? And
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: is my special time with my daughter more important than
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: sweeping the garage or whatever. And I you know, what
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I hope Angie kind of finds or has found, you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: is is that you don't have to be doing shit
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, right, like, come and have a
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: seat with us, you know, and experience what I experience,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: you know. And she's definitely been a little bit better,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously you know she's airing right now, so
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: she's on the phone still with but you know, it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: like I think it used to drive her, not its
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: when she used to see us sitting there, you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: kind of doing this thing, and it's like, look, this
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: is special to me. I'm not changing it. You know.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: You can call me lazy whatever you want, but I'm
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: doing it still. Yeah, so I'll get I'll get my
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: shit done, you know.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Because it takes us five seconds, you know, five minutes.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do that five minutes. Yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the scene where I think you guys
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: were on the couch and you're invited to come watch
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: TV with you and she looks back. Angie looks back
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and goes, I got a good d laundry, and I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: gotta do this and I gotta do that, Like, oh
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: my god, what a great scene.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny because that scene, you know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: she's spraying off the counter and I'd done up five
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: minutes before that. It's like, all right, whatever, that happens
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: a lot, you know, it's just like, dude, I just
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: did that.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: One of the things that I remember was said on
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the show was that she wanted to at the end
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: of this experience, wanted to wanted you guys to really
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: miss her and and and appreciate how much she does
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: for you. And how how accurate or or how how
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: was that after she had, you know, been to the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: farm and came back. How was that effective in her thought?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Or did she completely decide, you know what, that's not
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: what I want my kids or my family to do.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: It's miss me while I'm gone. Does that make sense?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Does that question make sense?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so, you know, I mean, here, here's the thing.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about this, this this whole process was
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: like it was pretty fast. I think it was over
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: three or four days is yeah, and we were grinding
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the whole time, you know what I mean. So, so
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: like it seemed like it was so quick there really
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: wasn't enough time to to think about like oh I
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: miss Angie or anything like that, you know, I think so,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I think it was a little bit too fast.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Had it been like you know the old wife swap
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: days where they go for like a couple of weeks,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I think that would have given us a big enough
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: break to actually, Okay, we need mom back now, because
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: you know, although I think I would have had a
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: great experience either way. You know, there's something about getting
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: back into your routine and it's like, Oh, can't wait
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: for Angie to get back and I can go and
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: do my thing, you know what I mean.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: So, was there one or two or three things that
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: in the short period of time you were apart that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you wish, like you realize, oh, I do miss this
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: about her other than her presence, right, you know, what
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: was that one thing, if any, that you remember, like
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I wish Angie was here?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know you mentioned the biggest thing,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: and I think her presence, you know, is always missed.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: You know, her humor, Lindsay Lindsay, although I think she's
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: got a great sense of humor, I think she was
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: just kind of a deer in headlights in the process,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: So you didn't see a lot of that but you
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: know the sense of humor and and just you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I think Elector would tell you she would miss eavesdropping
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: on the conversations that she's having with Mary or or
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Heather one of those girls, because I think that's always
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: fun for Electra to kind of want to be a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: part of you.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Know, that's funny.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: What was it like meeting the family? The Flake family?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: You guys had a watch party, right, What was that like?
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: We did? Yeah, we had a watch party.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Was that the first time I met the husband?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that was the first time I'd met the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: husband and kids, and it was awesome. Like, you know,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: when Angie came back, she just she just fell in
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: love with the kids, and she loved Tanner, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: just such a great guy, just a you know, just
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a good old boy. Yeah, and you know, she really
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: really fell in love with those guys. And when she
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: told me that they were going to come and do
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: this watch party, I was like, and spend the night
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: at our house. I was like, oh, that's you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: for a minute, they're actually going to spend the night, Okay,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: all right, cool, I get that. And then you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: they got here and they're just a warm just They've
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: got a very healthy, dynamic family dynamic. They all work
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: together daily and and it shows in their relationship, you know.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: So we had a blast. It was fun to have
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: him here, and I have him here over and over again.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: That's so cool. I remember unseen where I think you
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: had to do with the rules. And Angie took them
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: all out to dinner because she couldn't eat at home anymore.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: She didn't want any more ox tail.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: You didn't want any more oxtail? Yeah, no thanks, And
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: then she gave the kids ice cream or an ice
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: cream Sunday or something like that, and they're like, it's
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: not good for us, but it was so good, right,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: And they're young, they're little kids like thinking like that already,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Like I am not putting chunk in my body, I
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: mean exactly. You know they're going to be pretty healthy.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They truly live off the land. You know. If
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: you can cool, you can kill it, pick it out
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: of the ground, or pull it off a tree. That's
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: what they do. You know.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: So did you.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Were you surprised or confirmed when you saw them, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the family over did you understand Lindsay a little bit
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: better now that you saw the family dynamics when you
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: guys did that watch party?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: No, you could definitely, you know, I definitely had a
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: better understand you know, I think I had my head
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: wrapped around it. But when you see them together, you
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: can you know there's just something special there that they
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: really have together. And like I said, I think it's
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: you know, it's one of those things where they wake
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: up together and then they do everything throughout the day
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: together and you know, it really just it definitely builds
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: like a lot of I don't know, I think there's
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of love and a lot of character, and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: you know, they they they're a great family.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Did you do the watch party at your house?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: We did? Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: We make them take off their shoes.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: You know. You know what's funny is they do that anyway.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: We don't make you know, if we're gonna have people over,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: we don't. We never tell people to do that, you know.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: But the boy they walk in, they drop their shoes,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and you know, they're so polite, well mannered and just
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: great people.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see how strong the family can be
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: when they're going through what they're going through. Not that
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: they have to, but by choice, right, they made a
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: choice to do this together because we all have a choice.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: And the thing that stuck out was they have a
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: choice to just simplify their life and make their family
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: core unit the most important thing, because one thing I
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: learned about having a gym is when you experience something
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: hard like a spartan race or even in the CrossFit world,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: right when you experience something really really tough in life
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: like picking up something heavy, or for that matter, if
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you go hunting and you kill a big giant animal,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: you bond with that person and you have this life experience.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And that's what this family has been doing together to
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: build that core strength of their family. Right right, they
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: could easily make a right turn and live off their
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: business and go spend a bunch of money on how
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: and struggle like most of America live on debt and
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: all that, But that's not the same. That doesn't build
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the core unit of the relationship that you need to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: be a strong family. Like I doubt they'll ever get
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: divorced because they're so strong, And I doubt the kids
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: will ever stop talking to them or hate them because
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: they made them go through this. You know that the
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: strength and experience they had together as a family, I
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: think is gonna build for the rest of their lives.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna kids, are gonna get older, They're
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: gonna look back and like, yeah, I grew up in
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: a farm kind of you know, living off the land,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and now I'm a you know, financial executive making a
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: ton of money, But I appreciate where I came from, right.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I think I think
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the bond is definitely different when you're with your family
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. You know, it's like, you know,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: you live in the routine that we live in, and
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: you know, I drop Electra office school, and you know
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: what am I missing? You know what kind of like
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: little subtleties am I missing when she's at school, Like,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: you know, these guys get to maybe be a part
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: of or overhear maybe you know, they're boys talking about
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a girl or you know, or things like that. You
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: know that that I'm going to miss, you know, when
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: she's at school talking about boys with her girlfriends, right, Like,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to overhear and engage
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: in those conversations. So you know, there is something special
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: and I think, you know, people that choose to kind
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: of live that way you know, if all those children
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: don't do it, at least a couple of them will,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: and it carries on this strong family bond, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: for generations.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I think I believe too. I believe one hundred percent.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I Like one situation that comes to mind right now
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: is kind of what Edwin is going through. And he
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: has to split his time, you know, with the kids,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and I know that affects the time you miss right when,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: like when you're not with the kids, even though it's
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: kind of nice to have that freedom to go do
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: what you're doing with yourself, you know, to to try
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: to get through this hard part of your life. Do
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you miss those times? And how do you make up
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: for those times when you're not with the kids.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Well, it hasn't happened.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I mean it was going to happen, and then with
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: the situation that happened, everything was sort of changed. Now
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: I pretty much see them every day because I come
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I typically come home around five thirty and then I
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: take Cruise to football practice, and when I come back,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I get to hang out with the kids. Oh it's
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: almost like I'm here from like five thirty to nine,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: and then I go back home. So I'm seeing them
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: every day. So but I know before that, you know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: we were planning the whole seven days in s out.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: We never got to that part, so I still haven't
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: really you know, but like that said, like I was
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: able to go away for a weekend. You know, I'm
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: still able to do like those kind of things, but I.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Used to do that before.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: So as far as like time schedule with the kids, like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: none of that is really changed yet, although as Steady
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: gets better, we'll probably you know, start going that route again.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: But obviously right now, the main thing is making sure
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: she's healthy.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: But yeah, and Sean, I had a question for you,
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: just kind of back to what you said earlier about
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: housewives being a little tougher for you. Then I'm sorry
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: how a wife swap being tougher than the housewives because
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: in housewives you're not sort of the main character.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: You don't have as much dialogue. It's part of that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: And part of the question is my own experience was
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: you know, when I was on Housewives, I was so
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: worried about what I didn't want to say the wrong thing,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: so I.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Just chose to stay quiet because.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, if I say something wrong, my business
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: is gonna you know, go downhill or people off, and
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: what if I pissed some of the wives off that
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: work that that work with where their husbands work with me.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: You know, I was in my head in that, so
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: I just chose to stay quiet. Was that one of
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: the reasons why I was sort of tough? Like did
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: you have to like second guess what you were going
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: to say? Were you're in your head like that or
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: was that well you pretty just open with the whole. Hey,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm the star of the show here.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: I got to speak up and I got to do
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: some stuff, you know, I got to perform, perform.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: You know. It's interesting, you know when you choose to
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: to kind of dive into this TV thing, like like
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: initially you think, you know, I do I have to
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: be careful, but you know I thought for myself, like
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: you know, first season of Housewives, I was like, I
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: just got to be me.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: And I think at the end of the day, you
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: get criticism, right, so you're damned if you do, and
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: you're damned if you don't. And you know, and I
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: just told Angie, like we have disagreement that we're just
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: going to be authentic no matter what you know, so
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and you know not to say that you don't second
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: guess yourself in a certain scene or whatever. But you know,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: screw it. You know, we're in this information age where
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: you know, even if if you do say something or
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: maybe behave in a certain way, I mean, shit, within
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: twenty four to forty eight hours, they're onto the next
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: dramatic thing. So you know, for me, I was just like,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be me. You know, that's it. Like
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: what you see is what you get. If you like it, great,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: If you don't, I'm too old to care.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: You know. That takes a lot of pressure off, for sure.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. I just you just got to do
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: your thing.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: And that's funny you say that, because that was the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: exact same mentality I had going into filming the show
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: the first time, The Housewife show. Yeah, and I normally
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I don't learn very quick when it comes to relationships.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but there's sometimes I learned really
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: really fast, and in this particular instance, I learned really
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: really quick that it doesn't matter what I say, you know,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: going back to Edwin's point, like I don't want to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: say the wrong thing because it might affect me. What
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I learned is it's how it's edited. So you could
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: say the right thing at the right time to be
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: the perfect guy, but somehow they willk you. I don't
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: know how, but they have a good way of just
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: making you look like an asthma. So I said, all right,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I'm shutting up and I'm staying out of it.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're not going to win this, this whole
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: online stuff. It's like, you know, you could, you could
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: say the right thing ten out of ten times, and
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: you're still going to have trolls that just decide that
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: they can't stand you, right, and it's like whatever, you know.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: A funny thing is I've recently made a hard decision
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: that two things. I started taking time off of Instagram,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and for some reason, I don't know why, I felt
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: compelled to post that I'm taking a break okay in
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: case you guys you know, miss me for a week.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Oh god, I don't know.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Why do I have to ask permission? But the other
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: thing is I started really using the whole blocking tool
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: before they I didn't use it because it was about
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: having numbers, you know, followers and all that. When you
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: block them, it reduces it, and it was just stupid
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: shit to think about. Like, I don't need numbers. It's
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: all about engagement, right, And so I can't tell you
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: how gratifying it is to just block these idiots, these
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: trolls you're talking about. I mean, it feels so good.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: And even if they are not saying anything about me,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: maybe they're saying something about my guests. Like when we
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: do our podcast and you know, we have you on
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: the show and somebody says, oh, he's gay.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah block.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't need any of this negative shit,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: because that's exactly how I live my life, right, you know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: when I'm around people that are negative answer is and
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: just hate everybody else. I don't want to be around
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that absolutely blocked.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do it too. I do the same thing.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: It's just like, you know, but what's interesting though, is
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: like you know, you'll click on a person who has
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: something negative to say, zero followers, zero post It's like,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: who's trolling?
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: It's like if you're gonna, you know, put your money
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: where your mouth is, Like if you feel this way
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: about me, show me who you are. Yeah, you know
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: what I mean. But you know a lot of these
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: people It's like, who knows, maybe it's one of the
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: other housewives that has a troll account, you know what
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: And you know that's more common. That's coin now, you know.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: And it all started in New Jersey and it's made
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: its way to California and the east the West coast.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: But it is it is true that these guys, you know,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: will create these fake accounts just just just to harass you, right.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bananas. I don't understand that mentality. You know,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: if I have something to say to somebody, I'll just
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: call them. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's bizarre.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: As we wrap up, Sean, if you were allowed to
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: choose a wife from the Housewives, which one would you
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: do a swap with?
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: And we don't count Are you talking Salt Lake.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Any enfranchises?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except because you know we're friends.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: So gosh, you know that is something that I've never
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: thought about, But you know, I will say that, you know,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: somebody like Meani Leaks or somebody like that would be
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: a riot, I think to my house or yeah it
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: could be it could be awesome, or it could be
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: an absolute disaster, But somebody like that would be I
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: think hilarious to kind of have in my house and
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: kind of hit her in the gym and you know,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: get the leaf flower out, clean up the yard, the
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: you know, just stuff like that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I could see the finding that. I could totally see
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: that that could be fun. Now, last question, and I
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: will let you go. Would you do White Sweat again?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Oh? Definitely, you know, I think it was such a
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: great experience and I think even in a worst case scenario,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: you're going to learn something. So I would absolutely do it.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: We had a great, great time doing it.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: And yeah, absolutely, Well maybe if we can produce a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: girlfriend swap show, Edwin, would you do something like that? Sure?
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: It actually does sound pretty fun. I mean it's the
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: experience sounds pretty gnarly. It sounds pretty cool. Yeah, experience
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: that you know, just someone that's totally opposite of what
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: you are. You know.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I wonder what it would be like.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: If it's not as opposite, if it's kind of similar.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: You know, for instance, Uh, they swap you with dark
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Kemsley or something. Yeah, you know, uh, and she comes
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: into your house, it's the same, you know.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, when I saw the Gorgas episode last night,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: it was like, you know, if they swapped us with
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: those guys, Like it's pretty much the same, right, like
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: your organization the tight you know, So I don't know
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: if there would be a lot of story there. You know,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: you have to you have to have a juxtaposition to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: create that uh that story, you know.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Yeah, you're absolutely right. And and I do
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: see that and appreciate that of the producer as the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: producers make those decisions, because otherwise it'd be like watching
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: paint dry. And I always say that about myself, like
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not good TV because I don't like drama and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to manifest drama. My wife's really
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: good about it, but I don't know how to do
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: any of that shit.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: So yeah, the drama, and it would be the personalities,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: right if you you know, you might live the same
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: way right now, you might have a totally different personality.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: You know, that's true. That's true. Yeah, point, I.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Could see like I think, I don't know why I'm
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: thinking to reap, but I could see Boston Sean around
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: like do this, We're gonna go do this and shot quin.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Uh no, yeah, we probably wouldn't last five minutes together.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Now that you.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Mentioned it, Now, let me ask you this because obviously
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Edwin, but that the whole
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Bravo network has been about how you know, I'm gay
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and and Sean's gay, and you know the guys that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: take care of themselves on TV are gay, right, and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: it's mostly a gay network. So would you wife swap
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: with the gay couple?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: What what I want? Swamp with the gay couple?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: A gay married couple.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: That'd be interesting.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Idea. I better get my fifteen percent commission show because
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: that would be funny.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: That very funny. Yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've had enough gay friends in my life
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: that they're just so much fun. They're so funny to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: be around, and they're just so easy going, right, I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: think it would be a whot like maybe take them
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to a biker bar to see how they act, or
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: they take us to a gay bar, or see how
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: we act. Like He's funny, right, you should be a producer.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: This is some good ideas.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you? Anyways, do you have any questions
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: for us Shaw and anything else you want to say
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: about the show?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: No, I just just what a great experience it was.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. I really like you guys,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: and you know I feel I feel like family, you know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: and I just appreciate you guys having me on.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's always great having you on.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had some great guests and you're on top there, like,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: it's so much fun chat with you, and you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: we were fortunate to meet you in person in San
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Francisco and spend some quality time with you.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's where you really get to know the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: person versus what you see on TV. Right sure, So are.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: You going to Brabo Khan?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: By the way, we're trying to figure that out. We're
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: kind of having a hard time finding a place for
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Elector to stay right now. So I think it's going
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: to be a last minute decision for me whether I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: go or not. So we'll see, we'll see. Yet to
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: be determined.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you go, we look forward to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: seeing you.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, appreciate it.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Thanks again, Take care, guys, let's see everyone.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: That was fun. That was a lot of fun. I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: really enjoy Sean. He's such a cool guy. Just I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: just like his personality and you know, the way he
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: handles himself.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's one of my favorite guys. As well.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just so cool, genuine Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Parent we've again hung out in San Francisco with him,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: hung out in Vegas with them. Yeah, and one of
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: my favorite guys from the shows.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that was a good point you
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: brought up, Like what if it's the same, Like if
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: you swap with somebody with the same lifestyle and the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: same kind of life issues and challenges and goals, Like
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: how different would that be?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the personality is everything, right, I mean, it's it's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: some personalities match and some don't, you know, And I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: think that's what that's what makes it fun.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, if you get a chance that when you
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: got to watch the show, it's it's going to rare
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: that I actually find a show that I'm actually enjoying watching,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you know, and how I watch it is not one
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: of them. But this show is a lot of fun.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: And I really you got to watch Joe Gorga and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Melissa and there swap. I think it's going to be
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: very entertaining because we all know Joe, you could have
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: his own TV show. He's so much fun for sure.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: And yeah, let's let's touch base. Do you watch it
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and maybe we'll bring it up in our next podcast
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: and talk about it, because I really am enjoying it.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: It's it's I'm gonna watch it.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: It seems a lot of fun.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Awesome. What's always great seeing you brother have a great day.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I know you got a big ye po thing going
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: and that's always fun. A lot of pressure.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be a fun day. And we're going
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: to World Series today, so.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Oh cool, the whole the whole group orches your forum.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Uh no, I'm actually gonna take my brother and some
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: executives from the from the company.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Oh very cool.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: So hopefully drink them again.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: We'll have a good time.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: Brother, brother, We'll talk to you