Latest / The Scene Projects / Will Keenan on Acting, Digital Media, and Creative Evolution
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- 0:02This program is part of the Zine Projects podcast network.
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- 0:28Welcome into another exciting episode of the scene.
- 0:30I'm your host Bubba Starts, and with me today is actor, writer, producer, director, living
- 0:36legend, Will Keenan.
- 0:38Will, welcome to the show.
- 0:39Bubba.
- 0:40How are you, man?
- 0:41I I hate I I can't believe I'm saying this, but, first time I ever talked to someone named
- 0:45Bubba.
- 0:46Hey.
- 0:47That's such a common name.
- 0:48Well,
- 0:50it depends on where you're at.
- 0:51It's fairly common,
- 0:52but you
- 0:53you've spent a lot of time, you know, working in show business.
- 0:56You were out in LA, I know, for a long time.
- 0:58Not a lot of Bubba's in California, but if you, travel to Tennessee, you can't throw a rock
- 1:04without hitting one.
- 1:05Really?
- 1:06Did did a middle name, Bubba Joe?
- 1:09Bubba did something else come with that?
- 1:11No.
- 1:11So James Junior, dad was uncle Bubba.
- 1:14So when I was born, it was, you know, that oh, that's little Bubba.
- 1:18Right?
- 1:18That's Bubba Junior, and it just stuck my entire life.
- 1:22So dad would father
- 1:24uncle Bubba?
- 1:26Yeah.
- 1:26So he was the youngest of five boys and had some sisters as well.
- 1:30So had a lot of nieces and nephews, before I was born, and he was, yeah, just always uncle
- 1:34Bubba.
- 1:35Now that's actually the bigger story, Will.
- 1:37It's like, I don't know how he ended up uncle Bubba.
- 1:41Right?
- 1:41Like, mine, I just kinda fell into it, but I don't know where his came from.
- 1:44I'm gonna have to get him on the podcast and Yeah.
- 1:47Talk about it sometime.
- 1:48That's an episode right there.
- 1:49Yeah.
- 1:50For sure.
- 1:51Well, Will, we're not here to talk about my life and what's in a name, but we are here to
- 1:57talk about you and some really awesome things that you're doing now.
- 2:00But before we get into that, I'd love for you to take a few minutes and give us a little bit
- 2:04of your backstory.
- 2:07Well, alright then.
- 2:09I was born in Philadelphia, and I'm close to Philly right now.
- 2:12Spent the primary years there and then moved to South Jersey.
- 2:16Went to twelve years of Catholic school, or as I like to say, I was in for twelve years.
- 2:21But I got accepted early decision, they called it, to New York University where I majored in
- 2:28you know, it was, $45,000 at the time.
- 2:31So I majored in you know, double major and double minor just to get the money's worth, but
- 2:36primarily theater, psychology, philosophy, and dance.
- 2:39But the interesting thing was that, you know, throughout my high school career in South
- 2:44Jersey, I was, like, president of my class a few times, and I was prepared to go to the Air
- 2:50Force Academy in Colorado.
- 2:51And I would have been the first student from that high school to do that.
- 2:55And it kinda last minute, was like, you know what?
- 2:57I got this bug.
- 2:59And I just wanted to to test myself to see because NYU at the time, I still think one of
- 3:05the best schools for that kind of thing, filmmaking, acting, like, all that stuff.
- 3:09I said, you know, I just wanna see if I can get in.
- 3:12And, you know, if I can get in, if they accept me because it was really, you know,
- 3:16competitive, you know, maybe I'll think about it.
- 3:18So not only did I get in, but they gave me a pile of financial aid and did an early decision
- 3:23and stuff.
- 3:24So I went from, like, the, you know, like, the star student at my high school to, like, what
- 3:30is he doing?
- 3:31He's going off to be a schmactor.
- 3:34And then and so at 16, because I was young for my grade.
- 3:38At 16, I went to New York City and went through NYU, four years of that, very intense.
- 3:44And, you know, the education was great, but mainly it was, like, being in New York City
- 3:48that, you know, really gave me a lot of, you know, contacts, networking, and so forth.
- 3:53I started doing Off Broadway theater, like, age 17, 18.
- 3:57You know, there was a six seven age 17.
- 3:59It was the first time I was, you know, bold faced in the New York Times.
- 4:02They reviewed a a play I had done.
- 4:04And then upon graduation because I was you know, even though I was gonna be, like,
- 4:09hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, I just fell in love with theater, even in, like,
- 4:13in a 99 seat, like, black box theater.
- 4:16You know?
- 4:16And I said, you know what?
- 4:17If I never make any money at this, if I never, you know, pay off my student loans, this is
- 4:21fulfilling.
- 4:22I'll be happy.
- 4:23Until the last week of of NYU when we're graduating, me and my buddies were sitting
- 4:29around.
- 4:29I had this apartment on Saint Mark's Place, you know, in the East Village, Lower East Side
- 4:33area.
- 4:34And we're all kinda sitting around thinking, what are we gonna do now?
- 4:37You know?
- 4:38We had a week to graduation.
- 4:39And one of my friends has a Backstage magazine.
- 4:42I'm not sure if you're familiar with Backstage.
- 4:44It's been around forever.
- 4:45It used to be, like, a big, you know, kinda like a broad sheet paper.
- 4:49And they would have all these pretty much nonunion, you know, gigs.
- 4:53And one of them was like, oh my god.
- 4:55Troma's casting.
- 4:56And I was like, what's Troma?
- 4:58And they're like, you don't know Troma, the toxic avengers, surf Nazis must die, the
- 5:01classic nuke them high, and all these, like, crazy movies.
- 5:04And I'm like, what are you guys talking about?
- 5:06And found out then, it was like, you know, while they were watching these crazy movies
- 5:10when they were younger, I was, like, climbing trees and playing sports.
- 5:14So I had no idea what it was, but it was their adaptation of of Shakespeare's Romeo and
- 5:20Juliet.
- 5:21And it said that there was gonna be actual Shakespeare and that that the whole script was
- 5:24written in iambic pentameter.
- 5:26And I had just finished two years of, like, Shakespeare intensive.
- 5:29Right?
- 5:29And I loved Shakespeare.
- 5:30It's like full bodied acting, you know, which, you know, lends lent well to crazy kind of b
- 5:37movies.
- 5:37So I went down to the audition, and I read the sides.
- 5:41And I was like, oh my god.
- 5:42There was Shakespeare in it, and the rest of it was written in iambic pentameter.
- 5:46But it was, like, to me, and twisted stuff.
- 5:49I was like, oh my god.
- 5:50Oh my god.
- 5:52But I said to myself, you know, this may be the only and last time I ever could potentially,
- 5:58you know, do some actual Shakespeare on film.
- 6:02And, I got the role.
- 6:03So as I'm, like, you know, graduating, walking down the aisle at NYU, I've been cast in my
- 6:08first movie as a lead, and it's probably gonna be on my gravestone.
- 6:12It's called tromeo and Juliet.
- 6:13I played tromeo, and it became you know, that company was known for, like, I guess, b movies,
- 6:19schlock movies, splatter movies.
- 6:21Splatter meaning it's just, like, you know, fake blood everywhere and someone's arm rips
- 6:25off and then girls in bikinis or naked run by.
- 6:29Like, really weird stuff.
- 6:31But, you know, I I just took the gig, and it was very low paying.
- 6:37And, you know, it it did something.
- 6:39I I think I was, like, 19 or something at the time.
- 6:44And this was at a period in in New York where there was a boycott on on independent
- 6:50filmmakers, you know, with the unions and and so forth.
- 6:52And I don't know what it was, but it was just being lifted.
- 6:55And this was a nonunion movie.
- 6:56I mean, they used to supposedly at SAG, the Screen Actors Guild, they would put up posters
- 7:00saying, do not work with trauma.
- 7:02But but this was my, like, way in.
- 7:05You know?
- 7:06And it immediately became, like, a cult classic.
- 7:10And it was reviewed well, and, you know, it was right before Baz Luhrman's Romeo and Juliet
- 7:15came out.
- 7:16So, like, I was in entertainment weekly.
- 7:18I got all this press.
- 7:19I went to Cannes to for the premiere of the movie.
- 7:21And then I saw myself on screen the first time, and I was like, oh my god.
- 7:25You know?
- 7:25Because theater acting is very big, which I had just gotten out of.
- 7:29You know?
- 7:30And film acting, the all seeing eye, it's like it sees everything.
- 7:33So I was disgusted by myself.
- 7:36But everyone loved my performance, and I guess it's because I was I was broad enough for
- 7:41movies like that.
- 7:42You know?
- 7:42So that was essentially the beginning of an independent film career.
- 7:46And over the those next few years, I did some theater but went right to film because once I
- 7:50saw myself like that, I was like, I have to crack this nut of how to act on film.
- 7:54Right?
- 7:54I don't think I ever totally cracked it because I'm still people are always like, Will, can you
- 7:58tone it down a little bit?
- 8:00You know?
- 8:00And I see myself on screen.
- 8:01I'm like, oh.
- 8:02And now that I'm getting older and it's just like, you know, chins and and extra 10 extra
- 8:08pounds.
- 8:09But I I ended up racking up, like, 45 movies in a a period of, like, four or five, six years
- 8:14and became, like, kind of, like, you know, an indie indie name.
- 8:17Right?
- 8:18And I got to travel to hundreds of festivals around the world, but I caught the producing
- 8:22bug pretty early on because working with Tromo is one thing.
- 8:26And then the second movie I did, which was right after, gets credit for being the very
- 8:30first fully digital feature film.
- 8:32It's called love god.
- 8:33And it was made in 1996, and it was all digital.
- 8:36But also a crazy cult movie that no one no one one saw that one.
- 8:40A lot of people saw Romeo and Juliet.
- 8:42And I caught the producing bug because, you know, actors, they're treated the worst.
- 8:47You know, they're just treated like cattle.
- 8:49No one believes them because they're always on all the time, you know, except when we're on
- 8:53camera.
- 8:54Then they want us to be as truthful as as we can.
- 8:57And, you know, just watching people behind the camera, Virgo, you know, I like to have a
- 9:01little more control than just being told, like, you know, where to stand, what to do, da da da.
- 9:04So I started producing.
- 9:05I made a few short films myself and then really caught the producing and acting bug.
- 9:10I produced and financed home movies with me as the star, like, because I thought that was I
- 9:14thought that was the thing to do, you know, to to just keep going up and, you know
- 9:18You were doing content before it was content.
- 9:22Yeah.
- 9:22Exactly.
- 9:23Exactly.
- 9:24And then Incredible.
- 9:25I I wanna touch on a few things because now we've kinda made that transition out to Los
- 9:30Angeles, and I think there's some really intriguing things about that early part of your
- 9:34career and and your schooling.
- 9:36It's funny.
- 9:37We talked a little bit off camera about conversation I had yesterday, with the senior
- 9:42executive director of the New York City Office Of, Media And Entertainment.
- 9:47And, yeah, the the cost of tuition at NYU has doubled since those days.
- 9:52And I was like, that's more money that I made in two years working in the factory, and that's
- 9:57what kids are trying to go to school.
- 9:59The difference in rural America and the cities that you find and I have no formal education as
- 10:05an entertainer or, you know, an actor or media personality or anything.
- 10:11And maybe further ahead than some people who are formally trained now.
- 10:17And just the difference between, you know, starting a career forty years ago in media and
- 10:21entertainment than it is now.
- 10:23There's so many more avenues.
- 10:24And what I liked about kinda where you're where you're going in this conversation to the
- 10:28production acting side is that that's we're all self produced now.
- 10:32Right?
- 10:33From music, musicians with home studios, and I know you worked on a lot of records, while you
- 10:38were out in California as well.
- 10:39And, you know, content just in general, we've all become filmmakers and, you know, producers
- 10:46and directors that whether we wanted to or not, like, I've kind of fallen into this role.
- 10:51I thought I was quitting my, you know, job in the factory two years ago to be a rock star.
- 10:55Well, I thought I was going on tour, and I got on tour, and I was like, oh, I hate this.
- 11:00I don't want I don't want to do this not to have to perform all the time.
- 11:05You know, I don't drink and party.
- 11:06I'm almost 40 now.
- 11:07You know, back in my twenties, it was the bee's knees.
- 11:10Right?
- 11:11Yeah.
- 11:11I get to be around, you know, the party all the time, but when you're a little bit older and
- 11:15kinda watching, you know, the drink spilled on the floor and the people rush into the bathroom
- 11:21to throw out, like, I don't want this.
- 11:23I don't want this anymore.
- 11:25So find it really interesting that you're really I mean, you've always just been ahead of
- 11:29your time.
- 11:29Since high school, right, graduating at at 16 years old, going off to New York City as a
- 11:34teenager, in the, what, late eighties, early nineties?
- 11:38Early nineties.
- 11:38Yeah.
- 11:39Yeah.
- 11:39I mean
- 11:39Not that old, Bubba.
- 11:40Yeah.
- 11:41Well, I I was trying to get time frames in here.
- 11:44You mentioned some of the dates of the movies going out there, but still a wild time.
- 11:48You know?
- 11:48New York was a wild place, in that time frame.
- 11:52A lot of music, things are happening.
- 11:54The grunge era is really just beginning.
- 11:56Hip hop in New York City is becoming massive, and you were kind of in the zone at a pivotal
- 12:04moment in entertainment history.
- 12:07Was there any touch points with the music world, while you're going to school at NYU and
- 12:13kind of being in there or when you're in school for acting and doing that, like, it's all
- 12:17consuming.
- 12:18Yeah.
- 12:19I mean, in New York City, besides, like, friends of mine being musicians and going to
- 12:22their their events and their their shows, not really.
- 12:26And then when I, you know, went to LA, was in New York City thirteen years, LA fourteen
- 12:30years.
- 12:30And while I was there, I was producing, you know, independent films and hiring music
- 12:35supervisors, choosing music, you know, being in the recording studio to lay down, you know,
- 12:39ambiance tracks, you know, the the soundtrack.
- 12:42And that's where it kinda started.
- 12:44And then the economy crashed.
- 12:46You know?
- 12:46So where I used to get my money from, like, hedge fund guys who just wanted to meet
- 12:51actresses at parties and didn't expect their money back, like, that all closed up in, like,
- 12:542006.
- 12:55And then I had I had this kind of, intuition to go abroad, to go to India, Bollywood, because
- 13:03they have four distinct independent film industries, and they're huge, and they were not
- 13:07being hit.
- 13:08So because I was a Ferengi, a westerner, they call them Ferengis, you know, with some
- 13:12Hollywood credits, they kinda rolled out the red carpet for me, and I ended up producing
- 13:15some, you know, or co producing some big Bollywood movies with some of the biggest stars
- 13:19there.
- 13:19And it was going great.
- 13:20This is, like, from 2008 to 2011.
- 13:23And it was going awesome until, you know, my partner at the time, she had said to me, look.
- 13:28I know it's going great out there because my trips to India just kept getting longer and
- 13:32longer, the last one being eleven months.
- 13:34And she said, I I know you're doing great out there, but I'm not coming there.
- 13:38And if you don't come back soon, like, you know, we're we're we're kaputs.
- 13:42So I came back, and I said, alright.
- 13:44This is the time because I saw it coming.
- 13:46YouTube had come out in 2006, and I saw what was happening.
- 13:50YouTube stars were already being created.
- 13:52I, as a talent, probably should have, you know, embraced that earlier on.
- 13:56But I said, alright.
- 13:56Well, now's the time to figure it out.
- 13:57This is around 2011.
- 13:59And I put myself in, like, a boot camp, and I printed out, and I had this long, you know,
- 14:03dining room table of stacks of printouts of just studying what was going on with YouTube
- 14:07and an online video.
- 14:08And by the end of it, like, two week boot camp, I was like, I know everything about the digital
- 14:13world, which wasn't true.
- 14:14But the confidence and I'm one of those kinda spiritual dudes who think, like, what you think
- 14:18about, you bring about.
- 14:19I think it was my confidence about it.
- 14:20All of sudden, get a call from the wife of a friend who we did a TV pilot together years
- 14:26prior in LA saying, like, I'm the head of HR at this new multichannel network on YouTube called
- 14:31Maker Studios, and I just have a feeling you'd really fit here.
- 14:34I hear you're back in town.
- 14:35And I was like, I know Maker Studios because I just read about them.
- 14:38And then I said, alright.
- 14:39This is my chance to switch from traditional to digital.
- 14:43And and I got the job.
- 14:44They gave me three raises in the first month, and I just ran around every department trying
- 14:49to, you know, make myself indispensable.
- 14:51And they made me within two years VP.
- 14:54So and we were building, like, huge, essentially, networks by category.
- 14:58Like, you know, I helped build the news and politics.
- 15:00I helped build the the music network.
- 15:03I helped build the the moms and family network and a bunch of them.
- 15:06And then I got the job of a lifetime, you know, Endymal.
- 15:10It was called Endymal.
- 15:12They were the largest television production company at the time.
- 15:14They were essentially acquired a few years ago, now they're called Benaje.
- 15:17And they were, because everyone was into the whole like, we wanna do a multichannel network.
- 15:22Disney eventually bought Maker.
- 15:23You know?
- 15:24And right before Disney bought Maker, I was hired to be president and to launch Endymol's
- 15:29first North American digital division.
- 15:32You know?
- 15:32And I was known at the time as someone who because of my traditional, I I worked with a
- 15:36lot of celebrities.
- 15:37So I was bringing people like Snoop Dogg and Adrian Grenier, James Gunn to the YouTube
- 15:41platform, and I was helping discover and launch YouTube stars, you know, when I was a digital
- 15:47entertainment executive executive.
- 15:49So and and oh, but to get back to the music part, when I was in Bollywood, I re because in
- 15:57Bollywood, although the movies I was helping make, yeah, there was, you know, there's like,
- 16:01every 10 minutes, there's, like, a music musical interlude, like, of the Bollywood, you
- 16:05know, sequences.
- 16:06Right?
- 16:06So it's very reports.
- 16:08It's very, very intertwined.
- 16:10Very intertwined.
- 16:12So being a producer for a few of the movies over there, I was responsible for, like, hey.
- 16:17Do you think you can get some Western artists to collaborate with some Indian artists?
- 16:20And I was like, yeah.
- 16:21This is fun.
- 16:22So I produced this song that Julian Lennon did, John Lennon's son.
- 16:27He's become a a great friend and awesome, you know, philanthropist and awesome talent
- 16:31himself.
- 16:32And I hooked him up with the star the Bollywood star of our movie, and that was a big, big deal
- 16:37over there.
- 16:37And Dave Kushner, you know, one of the founders of Velvet Revolver, and he's, you he's
- 16:41obviously a legend himself.
- 16:43I paired him up with, you know, a superstar over there named Shruti Hassan.
- 16:48We made these awesome songs that did really, really well over there, and, you know, they've
- 16:51gotten views over here.
- 16:53And, like, that's really what kinda got me the music bug.
- 16:57And then and then at Endymol, they signed Pitbull, which which was awesome.
- 17:01So I got to work directly with him on all his YouTube stuff and was a big part of the the
- 17:06fireball music video.
- 17:08And I signed myself, Courtney Love, to end them all to do her first YouTube channel and
- 17:13essentially web series.
- 17:16And through that, ended up producing, I guess, you know, ultimately executive producing the
- 17:21music and produced the video for her song called wedding day.
- 17:25And then one one of the things I'm most proud probably has the most views is I don't know if
- 17:29you if you know who Andy Milenakis is.
- 17:31He had a a TV show on on MTV a while back, and he's done a lot of music.
- 17:37So I signed him to end them all, and he wanted to do a collab with a big rapper named Chief
- 17:44Keef.
- 17:45And I think it's called I forgot what the the song is called, but it's got, like, you know,
- 17:4950,000,000 or something views on YouTube.
- 17:52And so it's just really cool because it's like a a hip hop or rap video.
- 17:56And at the very end, you know, how they do the the big block, you know, font letter.
- 18:00It's like, executive Bruce or Will Keenan.
- 18:01I'm like, oh, man.
- 18:02I'm I'm cool in the rap world now.
- 18:05I got street cred.
- 18:06Alright.
- 18:07Yeah.
- 18:08Yeah.
- 18:08Yeah.
- 18:09So and I've always loved music, and I've you know, I starred in the the very last black and
- 18:16white musical feature film called the ghastly love of Johnny x, which was, you know, a
- 18:21musical, and I had to sing for that.
- 18:23So I've always, like, you know, been into it, and I hope to, you know, do even more with it.
- 18:26But it you were saying, like, it's like anyone, you know, because of the tools that are
- 18:30provided us now.
- 18:31You know?
- 18:32Anyone could be a one man band or one woman band and or, you know, you know, be a filmmaker
- 18:37now.
- 18:37And now that AI is kind of disrupting everything because I was there for the digital
- 18:41disruption, right, and the live streaming disruption.
- 18:45And now there's this AI disruption, which especially people from my generation, they're,
- 18:50you know, they're up in arms about it.
- 18:51And I understand that.
- 18:52You know?
- 18:53Especially if I was losing my creative job to AI, you know, a lot of my friends or people I
- 18:58came up with are out of work.
- 18:59The other the other
- 19:00people designers are are taking a major hit in this, you know, and a lot of other things.
- 19:05And then, honestly but it's also because you you gatekept this knowledge and probably
- 19:10overcharged people and you held the keys until somebody was like, man, why are we letting
- 19:15these people hold the keys and just Yeah.
- 19:17Kinda take advantage of us, the consumer.
- 19:20Yeah.
- 19:20I'm on I'm on the fence about it because if I were a 14 year old kid today and I had
- 19:25aspirations to for music or filmmaking, you could become a filmmaker with AI at age 14
- 19:31right now.
- 19:31Right?
- 19:33So I I'm on the fence about it.
- 19:35You know?
- 19:36I think I think in the end, create creativity will win out like it always does.
- 19:41But, also, as kind of a vain, you know, former movie star, I'm kinda like, I want AI to take
- 19:47the 20 year old me to still star in movies.
- 19:50Let's go.
- 19:51You know?
- 19:52I'll sign those rights away.
- 19:54I just need I just need a taste.
- 19:55I just need a piece.
- 19:56You know?
- 19:57I need to put yeah.
- 19:58How do you put your, you know, your yourself, right, as you are now as a, you know Yeah.
- 20:05More experienced, I'll say, gentleman into that body with the face of a 20 year old again.
- 20:11Right.
- 20:13Go to work, buddy.
- 20:15Let's go.
- 20:15We got movies to make.
- 20:17Right
- 20:17on.
- 20:18Right on.
- 20:19Will, that's so interesting, man.
- 20:20What a life.
- 20:21What a life that you've lived.
- 20:23It's so interesting.
- 20:25Just everything, the Bollywood journey.
- 20:27And I feel like you've always been someone who was very conscious of your surroundings.
- 20:33Right?
- 20:34That you you saw the writing on the wall before.
- 20:37You know?
- 20:38You didn't seem like someone who was so rigid in your thinking that you got run over by these
- 20:42things.
- 20:43You've been constantly adapting, and that's how you've been able to stay, you know, at least
- 20:47relevant.
- 20:48Right?
- 20:48You've stayed working.
- 20:49Right?
- 20:49If not, you know, relevant on a major scale, which I think for anyone who works in
- 20:54Hollywood, you have a different you have a different kind of, I guess, a a, like, a meter
- 21:01that you judge it by.
- 21:02Right?
- 21:03Like, to me, I'm like, holy shit.
- 21:04Well's one of the most famous people I've ever met in all these credits and all these things
- 21:08here.
- 21:08But to you, you're like, I worked with Snoop Dogg.
- 21:10You know?
- 21:11Like Right.
- 21:12When Pitbull, you know, two two icons of pop culture.
- 21:15So you're like, well, yeah, I'm not even like nobody knows who I am in comparison to them.
- 21:20Yeah.
- 21:21Yeah.
- 21:21So, yeah, it's a weird thing to do, but you I I feel like you've been wildly successful, if not
- 21:27financially so, definitely in the works that you've been able to create and to stay working.
- 21:32And and I know that now that you're back on the East Coast that you're doing, you know,
- 21:37probably a little bit smaller stuff, obviously, than working with Pitbull.
- 21:41But it feels like what you're doing now is even more near and dear to your heart.
- 21:46We talked a little bit about your one man show in our discovery call, but you're also working
- 21:50with your children now in creation process.
- 21:54What is that like for you who is someone who has created and mostly created out of the home,
- 22:00right, and working with some of these big stars or working overseas to now be working, you
- 22:05know, in the house with your children?
- 22:07That has to be so awesome.
- 22:09Yeah.
- 22:09So I I became a father for the first time a little over four months ago.
- 22:13I call her my daughter.
- 22:14Congratulations.
- 22:14I didn't realize yeah.
- 22:16That's, that's new.
- 22:17And I and I'm an old dad, and I had this, condition, when I was 16 years old that happens
- 22:23to, like, two percent of American boys.
- 22:25I was that one kid I can't believe I'm saying this.
- 22:27I think this is the first time I'm doing this in a podcast.
- 22:29I was that one kid in high school who got testicular torsion.
- 22:34You know?
- 22:34So it's, the second worst pain to labor, and all of a sudden, like, your gonads exploding.
- 22:39And and the result of which, you know, and they were able to you know, I'd be rushed to the
- 22:44hospital.
- 22:44They said, you're never gonna be able to procreate.
- 22:46You know?
- 22:46And and let's just say I had a long and fulfilling romantic life.
- 22:50But, you know, a little over four you know, five years ago, fell in love and, you know, the
- 22:56the young lady was telling me, let's get married and have a kid.
- 22:58I was like, well, here's my here's my deal.
- 23:01Here's my condition, but let's have fun trying.
- 23:03You know, she she said we tried for a year and a half, the last seven months of which I I took
- 23:08seriously.
- 23:09And I by this time, I had bought an historic church in Cape May County and started a
- 23:14nonprofit in my mother's name who had who had passed months prior.
- 23:17And I prayed on the altar of this historic church named after my deceased mother for seven
- 23:23months and just giving it up to god saying, this is what we want, but thy will be done.
- 23:27And then all of a sudden, she's pregnant.
- 23:30You know?
- 23:30So I consider my child like a miracle child.
- 23:32So my whole life's really just and and, you know, that's why I stay where where I am right
- 23:37now in South Jersey, which is where we're bringing her up.
- 23:41Like, it's right across the bridge from Philadelphia.
- 23:42It's about an hour.
- 23:43If you drive like me, an hour and ten minutes to New York.
- 23:46But you're right.
- 23:47I mean, the opportunities, even though there's so much going on online now, you know, that can
- 23:52take meetings via Zoom, this and that, but, you know, eventually, like, I've had to turn down
- 23:56gigs, executive gigs that would bring me back to LA or even in New York, which is too far
- 24:01away from my daughter.
- 24:02You know?
- 24:02So one of the things when I knew she was, you know, coming when we were pregnant, and I say
- 24:07we were pregnant, is is is that, like, oh, I gotta get back.
- 24:11Because I did very well, especially the last five years of my career as an executive.
- 24:15And, you know, I was doing this nonprofit and sinking all my money into it.
- 24:18But when we were pregnant, was like, I think I gotta get back into the game sock some more
- 24:21away.
- 24:22I'm an old dad.
- 24:22And if I'm not around, I want her to be chauffeured and with armed guards to
- 24:26university.
- 24:26You know?
- 24:27So I just started saying yes to things again, you know, including films.
- 24:32I've done, like, two or three from filmmakers, you know, in the Philly area.
- 24:36I go up to Connecticut for one next month.
- 24:39So I I just started saying yes to things again, and I'm really enjoying, doing on camera work
- 24:45again and performing again.
- 24:47I I do have this one man show called one man Poe, and that is the my selections of the
- 24:52writings of Edgar Allan Poe.
- 24:54And it's like a forty five minute show, and that's been commissioned by local arts
- 24:58organizations and so forth.
- 25:00So after all these years, you know, I was one of the only kind of actors who actually starred
- 25:04in movies, not 80,000,000 Tom Cruise type movies, but, you know, independent films, who
- 25:08became an executive without, you know, the help of his own production company.
- 25:13And now in my in my older years, I'm I'm just you know, because because of the early work,
- 25:20especially the cult movie work, I would I still get, like, four to six offers a year to star in
- 25:27these, you know, sick and twisted movies.
- 25:29And I'm not saying yes to all them because, you know, my daughter's gonna eventually see these
- 25:35things.
- 25:36You know?
- 25:36But but the work I've been getting lately and this this was new for me too because the four
- 25:42roles that I've been cast in and and one is shooting next month or two are shooting next
- 25:45month, one in South Jersey, one in in Connecticut, it's it's I'm I'm being cast as
- 25:51dad.
- 25:52Right?
- 25:52So one one film's called my little daughter by Dana Morazo.
- 25:57And in each role, I'm being cast as the dad.
- 26:00It's there was you know, my ego a little bit, I was like, I well, come on.
- 26:03I'm still leading man type.
- 26:05You know?
- 26:05But the stories that I've been cast as the father are amazing.
- 26:09And, like, a lot of the times, just because of my relationship with my own daughter and how
- 26:12she came about, like, they're like, Will, this this scene does not require crying.
- 26:16I'm like, I can't help it.
- 26:18I'm just crying against my daughter.
- 26:21You know?
- 26:21So getting back into it and, you know, I'm still consulting.
- 26:26I'm still you know, I have a couple movies in in the hopper as far as a producer.
- 26:30I still, you know, work with influencers and YouTube stars.
- 26:34So it's kinda nice.
- 26:35I'm getting to do a little bit of everything even though I'm kind of, I would say stuck in
- 26:41South Jersey, but, you know, it's where I grew up.
- 26:43It's a great place.
- 26:45Yeah.
- 26:45What an incredible career.
- 26:47And I feel like in some ways, you're just kinda getting started because the media world is
- 26:53changing so much, and you have this plethora of experience in how things used to be, but you
- 26:59are still very much on the cutting edge of where it's going.
- 27:03And I think that leaves you uniquely poised to help a lot of people, not not unlike me, where
- 27:10where I kinda wanna keep you off camera for a little bit if you have a few more minutes and
- 27:14pick your brain about some things.
- 27:17And yeah.
- 27:18But great glad we got to have a conversation on camera today.
- 27:22I look forward to coming through the East Coast and being able to sit down and do one in person
- 27:26on camera with you.
- 27:27I think that would be really awesome.
- 27:29And to see your shows and to be, you know, just around you.
- 27:33You you have such a light to you.
- 27:34You can feel it through the camera.
- 27:36Congratulations on being a new dad.
- 27:39The power the power of god is is something very incredible because I don't think that either
- 27:45one of us are here without a higher power.
- 27:48So a powerful testimony there about praying for your, you know, now daughter and praying for
- 27:55that child with the love of your life.
- 27:57And really, really incredible stuff, Will.
- 28:00Anything you wanna plug, website where people can find you before I let you get out of here?
- 28:05I'm easy to find online.
- 28:07Will Keenan, k w e n a n.
- 28:09You know, mainly Facebook, x, Twitter, and Instagram.
- 28:14But I have a website, willkeenan.com, and that's where, you know, you can find and buy
- 28:18and merch and all that kind of stuff and or just, chat, hang out.
- 28:22Awesome.
- 28:23Well, Will Keenan, thanks for being part of the scene.
- 28:26Alright.
- 28:26Thank you, man.
- 28:27This was fun.