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Incomprehensibaby: Billy Mitchell Defamation Trial & Death Stranding · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  [Music] Welcome to Multiple Nerd Gasm with your
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  hosts Matt, Luke, and Dan. Multiple
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  Nerdgasm, your guide to all things
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  nerdy. Got some terrible news to start the week off, but I don't want to start
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  with that. I don't want to start off with bad stuff. Let's start off with fun
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  stuff. I don't know what fun stuff we have. It's my birthday by the time you
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  hear this. Oh, that's true. How about that? Yes, that's true. Yeah. Well,
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  happy birthday for you know the future when the future of now the past of when
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  the listeners are listening for the witnesses. Yes. You'll be Luke's
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  birthday. Yes. Wednesday. Yeah. I'm going to go to work and do
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  nothing for it. Not as old as Dan and I. No, I'll be one year younger than both
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  of you. Yeah. Well, you'll be two years younger than me for two months.
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  No, you'll be one year young. H, [ __ ] it. I don't know about that. You You
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  both You were both born in 80, correct? So, it should be easy for you to work
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  out how old you are. For me, it's difficult. It used to be and now I'm old
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  and I forget. I literally still I go, I have 43.
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  Yeah, but all you got to go, it's not 43. No, you just got to 2025
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  minus 80. Forget it. 45. Easy. Yeah, me got the one. Just look at what year is
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  it? Like the what is the last digit of the year? In all theory, it should be
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  really easy for me to figure it out from there cuz I know I'm in my 40s. So, just
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  but [ __ ] it up. You also I think we're all at that age where we just stop
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  counting and caring. Best not to think about it. Speaking of being in our 40s,
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  um this is our our weekly segment called Old Men Talk about their fitness. So, oh
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  yeah, cool. Been been going to the gym. You know, I don't go hard. I don't have
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  a trainer. I just I just go in there and exercise, just to stay alive. And you
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  know, you know, partly for our challenge, mostly just to try to stay
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  alive as long as I'm joining that challenge soon. Yeah. Yeah. You dip your
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  dip your toe in. The water's nice. Yeah. But I went I went this morning. I
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  usually go during the week and when I go, it's pretty much senior citizens
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  doing the aquaerobics class and one that's what I want people on the
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  treadmill. It's it's very very relaxed when I go. Um, but I went today and it
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  was just full of gym bros, right? Just proper bros [ __ ] grunting and
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  dropping their weights on the floor, right? But I'll say this, there was one
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  guy and I don't I didn't see anything that happened before. I just I saw one
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  guy one bro walk up to another bro and go, "Oh, hey, thanks for that tip
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  before. I I added like a good couple of kilos onto um onto the bar and yeah,
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  with that new technique that you showed me, I was doing really good." And he's
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  like, "Oh, yeah, good on you." And then he goes, "I tell you though, I just feel
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  like I've really plateaued. I'm just not making any progress." And the other guy,
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  this is just a total stranger, bro. In the gym, just turns and go, "Man, you're
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  own worst enemy to me and to everyone else here, you look great, okay? So, if
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  you're here every day and you're eating right, that's all you got to do. And you
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  just got to trust the process." And I'm like, I by this point, I had turned my
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  music down. And they made love right there on the bed. Yeah, that's what I
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  mean. It was it was the most beautiful,
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  sincere exchange of of masculine complimentary conversation that I'd ever
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  I wouldn't even say they were bros. They're just guys that are there. Well,
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  they look This guy was wearing what's that uh what's that like motorcycle
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  brand that like um motorcycle brand that uh Yeah, I'm pretty sure it started as a
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  mo motorcycle brand like No, no, no, no. It's not a gym brand. It's It's like a
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  It's like a loud shirts. Guys with loud shirts like Ed Hardy or something. Ed
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  Hardy. So this guy was wearing pink Ed Hardy shorts. Right. Right. And high
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  tops. Like these are they are bros in in every way except for the just this
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  that's that thing the joke about how men don't go to the gym to impress women.
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  They go to the gym to impress other men. Because women once you have like what do
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  they call the beach body which is kind of just you look you look you look good.
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  Then women are like yeah that's good. Yep. Fine. Yeah. Yeah. They're not
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  looking for huge jacked arms. No. I mean probably some are but Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Some are but mostly not. But I think the guys that go there are not trying to
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  impress women. I mean again some some are. But uh but most of them probably
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  just like, "Hey dudes, check out my [ __ ] biceps."
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  And it makes Do they give you any tips? What was that? Did they give you any
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  tips? Well, I want to know what this initial tip was, but I I wasn't there
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  for that. Or my music was too loud. I had $3 bill on too loud and I I missed it.
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  But are you doing like weights? So what I just cardio? No, I'm more
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  cardio, but I do a split. So, I'll do I'll run on the treadmill for like 25
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  minutes and then I'll go and do do like a 15minute resistance set just to kind
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  of, you know, I figure if I'm going to lose weight, I want to look decent once
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  I get down there. I don't want to just be a skinny run, but I'm not trying to
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  I'm not I'm not following the, you know, the bodybuilder routine. I'm not I'm not
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  trying to be TV star Henry Caval. I'm just going to do acor aerobics with the
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  old ladies. Yeah, man. It looks it looks pretty fun. And those dudes, man, they
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  they will [ __ ] they go back to the change rooms after, take off their
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  [ __ ] togs, leave them on the floor, and they just stand there dick to dick
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  having a good old chat. Once you get to that age, you do not
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  care. You do not care. Yeah. Who gives you? Cuz no one's there to look at them.
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  No. And they're not doing that for looks. I think they're just doing that.
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  They're doing it from a social thing at that age. We do chat with either the old
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  boys in the in the change rooms. Yeah.
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  All right. Still going to be exciting to say the bad news. Oh, the bad news. All
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  right. So, Carl Jos with his Billy Mitchell trial. He lost and now everyone
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  has turned on. What? Yeah. I don't quite get it, but I
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  I mean, he explained it today. I still don't get it. So, so what? He lost. And
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  so his defenses that he using, all right, but what he lost on was the
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  defamation was he was saying Billy Mitchell was saying that Cole accused
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  him of being the cause of the death of Apollo Legend, another streamer who he
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  sued and Cole just to be clear. Yeah. The Apollo um
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  took his own life after the lawsuit with Billy Mitchell, but after a lot of
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  things, a lot of other things. Well, but the way Yeah. Yeah. It was more
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  complicated than the way Carl said it like he got sued, he owed all this
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  money, he had other implications and then sort of led there was there was an
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  implication that Yeah, there was implication that Billy was a factor but
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  not a full-on like No, no, no. Billy says he accused me of murdering him and
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  it's like no he didn't. No, he didn't. He said it was Yeah. a lot of things
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  leading up and you put a retraction in and all this but everyone who's just
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  turned on Carl going you told us it wasn't it was just about the cheating
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  scandal and yeah I don't get that and so I was like no did you watch the trial it
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  was very open that they were talking about Apollo and that no they didn't
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  Luke no they they didn't watch it during the trial they did the actual trial
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  transcripts that no Dan saying no they didn't watch it yeah I'm thinking they
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  just read the headlines and were like oh he lost well he must be wrong. [ __ ] you.
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  No, a lot of us accusing me of lying to go that he was only he was lying about
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  the defamation case as it was. He said it was just about the cheating scandal.
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  He did have a GoFundMe at one point and I think yeah, people were saying, "Oh,
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  we thought we were helping you prove that he cheated." And it's like, "Oh,
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  that's not what this was." And I mean, but it was part of his defense, though.
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  It was part of his defense. That was Billy Mitchell's fault because he had to
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  he had to argue everything in order to argue the thing that was in question.
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  Yeah, like yeah, everyone just really has turned like really quickly and
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  really mean like he lied to us and all saying, "Oh, you you should have done
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  this, you should have done that." And I sort of like if you actually listen to
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  him, his defense was right. Like you don't want to bring light to it because
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  it's part of his defense was no one's talking about that. No one thinks that
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  Billy Mitchell was the cause of death of Apollo and that Carl's the one spreading
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  that rumor. No one's talking about that. Yeah. What they're talking about is him
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  cheating. Yeah. So that's one of the points of contention is that that Carl
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  did not frequently mention the fact that this was something that was a hot topic
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  which was the fact Billy Mitchell was accusing Kyle Jobs of saying he murdered
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  Apollo Legend. Basically that's what Yeah. and and he didn't talk about that
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  so much. The judge ruled yes, he did say
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  he murdered him or he did cause damage
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  by by Billy Mitchell's reputation by
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  implying I guess that he had a factor in his cause of death. I guess that's the
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  only way you could word it without it sounding quite stupid. But I think they
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  are he's looking at appealing it, but I think it'll come down to money cuz he's
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  ordered to pay like $350,000. Yeah. But the thing that's quite weird
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  is like you look at Billy Mitchell last year when he was
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  supposed this person like and you're claiming the same thing and it goes oh
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  with Carl that's all minimal impact of me. This is the big thing that's there
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  and then in this case he switches it around. So it's which is the thing that
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  caused you the harm when you're saying it's everything but it's only minimal
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  for that. And so I I find it still quite strange that he did win. I guess it
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  depends on what the judge learned about during it, you know, like cuz like in
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  theory the judge is not on top of this like we are. No. Like and the judge will
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  only be looking at what was presented to them. Yeah. But we're very biased.
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  Exactly. Yeah. But they should be biased to the letter of the law. like and laws
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  are, you know, there's there's precedents set by other court cases.
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  There's, you know, what's in what's in statute. Like, you've they've got to
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  just look at the facts and go, well, look, actually, technically, you saying
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  this does apply in this case, for whatever reason, I think the what it
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  boiled down to was did this judge, who doesn't know anything about Billy
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  Mitchell or Carl or any of this stuff, did the judge feel that the judge is
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  probably [ __ ] house at Donkey Kong? Yeah. Did the judge think Carl led
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  people to believe Billy Mitchell caused Apollo Legend to take his own life? I
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  guess that's probably what the judge sat down at the end of the day and said,
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  "Did he?" And then maybe he felt that he did. But yeah, like I cuz he he played
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  it today and what he said was like he did say he went through a line of events
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  and I don't think it was I think he did imply that they contribute. I honestly I
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  think even just the law itself contributed to it whether he had to pay
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  money or not. Sure. Yeah. Also, one of the big things he's a
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  depressed person. He's going through all of that trauma then yeah it's all going
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  to stack up cuz also one of the things was the news coverage of the case got it
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  all wrong. Mhm. They said it was a court case about cheating and it's it wasn't.
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  It was about defamation. But what was
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  what was Apollo's case against? Apollo accused him of cheating Donkey Kong.
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  Yeah. Yes. Right. So Apollo accused Billy of cheating in
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  Donkey Kong. Mhm. Which he [ __ ] did. Right. So Apollo was having sort of
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  health issues and he couldn't afford to fight it. So he settled. And Billy
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  Mitchell during that time was still trying to get money and he's going,
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  "Dude, I have nothing." And so they the final sentiment was you just delete all
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  your videos that you made about you cheating and we call it quits.
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  I mean that sounds like a pretty good outcome for him but I don't know maybe
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  there's more. Yeah, but I it was a stressful thing on top of all these
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  other stressful things. And that's I think that's what Carl was saying but
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  people he did it on top of everything else Billy Mitchell and then cuz one of
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  the pieces of evidence was comments on other articles about Billy Mitchell
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  where people would say oh this is that guy that drove Apollo Legend to kill
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  himself but no one referred it back to Carl. No but I think that Billy
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  Mitchell's lawyer and the judge may have thought oh well if that's where that
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  comes from. And the thing is I don't want to presume because I don't know
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  Billy personally. Um, but luckily some people he's still alive. Well, some
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  people just going to get sued. When when some people find out somebody's said
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  something bad about them, they go, "Oh, yes. Liel case." You know what I mean?
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  Like they're not affected. They're not upset, but they they go, "Okay, it's
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  time to sue." And he's very ligious. Clearly, he's suing everybody. That's
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  what I mean. So maybe the only the only thing in his statement that Carl got
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  wrong was at the time was that that um Apollo had to pay Billy Mitchell money.
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  Right. That's right. Apart from that, every other statement he said was
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  correct. It's just because that was an added thing where he owed money and
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  yeah, someone he thought was reputable told him, "Yeah, there was a settlement
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  amount." And then he later on found out
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  that wasn't true and said in a video that was not true. I was wrong. But
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  don't don't get don't get it wrong. Billy Mitchell was trying to get money.
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  It's just didn't have any. So he settled for nothing. Yeah. Yeah. And and and
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  don't get us wrong, Billy Mitchell is a cheater. 100%. Well, 100% a cheater.
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  Yeah. And a douche. But are we going to get sued? Should we cut
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  this? Well, all we have to do is say allegedly we're done. No, I think we've been We're
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  just giving the details of the case. I'm not accusing Billy Mitchell of anything.
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  I do not think, to be very clear, I do not think Billy Mitchell murdered
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  anybody. No, Billy Mitchell is not a murderer. He's just a cheater. He's just
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  a [ __ ] I don't think you can be sued for saying someone's a [ __ ]
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  It's not against the law to be a [ __ ] Not yet. Well, we can say
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  cheater because the judge did agree with the fact that yeah, he probably cheated
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  on all of this. Mhm. We've got um we've got several other pieces of legal news
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  followup, but they're follow to things that we normally talk about in the after
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  party. So, maybe I'll just take the opportunity to to tease a little bit
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  that there might be some controversial laws and
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  uh they're all Luke's favorite topics. I love bringing them up in his presence.
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  So, he was in the bushes last week watching us and he's just crept back in.
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  David, leave me alone.
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  I don't know what he's done. Well, I know what he's done. No, he Well, he
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  hasn't done anything this this week. He's in the news because somebody else
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  has said something. Okay. But that's that's for the after party.
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  I um I played some games this week. If we want to talk video games, I'd love
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  to. M so and first of all the spring sale is on on the Xbox and I noticed
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  that Robocop Rogue City which we had been discussing was on sale for I think
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  I got it for $12 or something and I was like okay okay so I bought that. Surely
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  it's a $12 game. I think it at full price I think it's worth it cuz it's not
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  I only played the first bit and I got to say I was underwhelmed. I will give it
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  more of a chance at some point, but I was a bit underwhelmed by the start of
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  it. I want more games like this that are
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  not that AAA $100.
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  This was just want a games. No, but this I actually really I enjoyed this game.
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  It was a $60 game new in Australia. So $60 Australia, not the $60 full price American.
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  And about eight eight hours to finish the game completely. and I enjoyed it
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  and I think we need more of those mid-tier games. I love Robocop as a
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  franchise and as a character. Um, so I do want to play this eventually and
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  maybe I will just get it now $12. But Luke, I do have one question for you. Do
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  you shoot people in the dick? Yes. Because if I play as Okay, check your
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  achievement. You're getting I did in this game. I think it's the first
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  achievement I got as well. first person you meet. Uh, I'm going to give you an
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  assignment. Why you shooting in the dick? What I I literally was like,
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  "Wait, wait. Why am I shooting him in the head? That's not how it used to
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  works." Yeah. But even the story is actually feels Yeah. It's all right.
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  It's just It's just kind of like a slowish shooter in a way cuz he's not,
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  you know, Robocop's not a fast Yeah. mover or anything like that. And I was
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  just like, "Okay, like it's fine. I'm not any particular issues with it." I
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  just they this these are the people who do they do Robocop. They've just started
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  doing Robocop. They were the ones that were doing the Terminator games as well.
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  Yeah. Right. Which again were those like double A type games.
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  I want to know if Assassin's Creed Shadows is any cheaper. No. During the
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  It is not. It is Star Wars Outlaw and I considered that. I'm not going to play
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  that. I don't like Star Wars. But I played So, okay. So, I played some
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  rubber cop. It was all right. I'll probably play some more at some point.
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  But then for some reason I was like, "Oh, you know what? I bought and
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  installed cuz I was curious about it is Death Stranding because I really wanted
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  So you remembered where your PS5 was?" No, no, it's on the Xbox. No, it's on
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  Xbox on Xbox. Oh, is it? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, [ __ ] Okay, guys. On Xbox a couple of
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  months ago. I am [ __ ] obsessed with this game now. Really? I have one
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  question for you. Do you know what the hell is going on? [ __ ] the baby in the
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  dick. Oh, no. I No, I don't. But to the guys, you look, you've played it, right?
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  Yes. Yep. I was like, maybe it'll make some sense of what bucks. I'll have it
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  for that. Yeah. It came out quite cheap. Even at full price, it was So I was
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  like, oh, maybe this will make some sense of the weird stuff I saw in the
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  trailers and stuff. No, no, it makes it worse because
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  like that opening sequence, right, where uh you know, you see you meet Sam, the
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  main character, and you're riding the bike and then he crashes cuz that
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  woman's there and then she's not there. It's just very Japanese in the way that
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  it's just like stuff happens and they like I'm not going to explain that. You
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  you'll be fine. And then there's these like things leaving handprints in the
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  [ __ ] mud. They're invisible and and I'm like, what is happening? And the
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  rain, they call it timefall. The rain ages everything, including you. So, you
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  can't get rain on you and uh and otherwise it damages the packages you're
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  delivering because at the core of it, right, all this crazy storyline [ __ ]
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  you're delivering [ __ ] packages. You're you're a delivery man. You're a
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  delivery man. So, anyway, there's that sequence where you get to the first town
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  and then you deliver a package and I was like, "Okay, I guess this is the game."
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  And then those guys with the corp, the dead body come up in the truck and
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  everything just goes [ __ ] insane where they're like, "Oh, he's going to
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  this body's going to necroize. We've got to get to the incinerator or this whole
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  city's going to become a crater." I was like, "The [ __ ] you talking about giving
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  me spoilers except none of this makes sense. It doesn't matter, mate. It
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  doesn't matter." And then they one of them has the little baby in the thing.
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  And and I was like, "Oh, they're going to explain what the baby is." Oh, the
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  baby's a bridge baby. It detects BTS. Like I'm like, "What's happening? What
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  is happening? And then it's like the baby can find big tits.
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  If anyone can, a baby can. And then the [ __ ] truck crashes. And then the
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  there's a guy floats down. He's stand on the truck at one point. Where the [ __ ]
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  is that guy? And then the guy from Bridges is like, "No." Tries to shoot
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  himself in the head and then everything starts floating up into the air and it's
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  a giant silhouette and I was like, "What the fuck?" And then there's I just It's
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  [ __ ] insane. Dan, have you got up to the part where you need to fight things?
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  I got to escape things. I haven't got to fight them yet. Yeah, you get to fight
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  them at some things and everything's black and there's like a whale thing
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  that jumps out of the black and you got to sort of throw grenades at it and
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  stuff. It's that [ __ ] title sequence where you after that crazy [ __ ] happens
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  and he's just standing there on the beach and all the [ __ ] dead whales
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  and sea animals are on the beach and then he's standing there and up in the
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  sky just the silhouettes of the [ __ ] people floating in the air and I and
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  it's like Death Stranding and the music and I was just like this is incredible.
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  Also, you don't know what's happening but it's incredible. Wait until you die
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  and see what happens. Oh, and then you go back to that area and there is just a
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  crater where you died. So [ __ ] weird, man. And it's sort of weird. You're not
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  in the same world as other people, but you are. Yeah. You can find packages.
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  And Dan, literally the actual game play is you run across the countryside with
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  stuff on your back and then sometimes it go leans this way and you have to hit
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  the trigger to lean back the other way and you're just running around like
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  that. That's the [ __ ] game. But you do cut,
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  right? It's strangely compelling. And then like I said, the pl Oh, the [ __ ]
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  bit with the president. They go, "Oh, the president wants to
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  meet you." Yeah. President wants to meet you. Oh, we don't have a president.
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  America's dead. No, we do have a president. She wants to meet you. She
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  Yes, it's the first woman president. Okay, by the way, it's your mom. And
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  he's like, "What?" And then this sounds like a dream. It was like It's lit.
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  That's what it feels like. And then you get in there, you meet the president's
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  aid is this man with a [ __ ] metal skull mask on and his name is Die
• 22:04
  Hardman. What is happening?
• 22:09
  It's so great. I'm going to have to go back and play it cuz the sequel comes
• 22:13
  out soon. If Luke wasn't sitting there nodding along because he knows what
• 22:17
  you're talking about [ __ ] I'd ask you what you were [ __ ] on. Matt, you you
• 22:22
  can't explain this game. But it's like it's like this for 27 years, but it's
• 22:28
  like got that little thing where it's like kind of like David Lynch where it's
• 22:30
  like I don't know what's happening, but I'm like I can't stop. Like the one
• 22:34
  thing I've I I did which I have to stop doing. I have to stop trying to deliver
• 22:39
  every package. Yeah, I've been doing that, too. That's the problem. I've seen
• 22:42
  one package. No, I have to I have to get this to someone. No, I need to let stuff
• 22:46
  go. But no, you should play it and see what you think cuz But yeah, it's it's just
• 22:52
  so unique. I'm I don't I can't believe it. Like honestly the like I said play
• 22:57
  through that opening sequence and I was like oh [ __ ] I'm hooked. Like this is
• 23:02
  really interesting. Yeah. You know on the edge of on the edge of
• 23:08
  understanding sort of thing where you're like okay del is in it. It's a [ __ ]
• 23:13
  character. His name's dead man cuz he used to be a a mortician a coroner. And
• 23:19
  not just a side character. He's You don't open with Die Hardman if you want
• 23:24
  to be mean to be impressed with any other name. All right. Die Hardman. I
• 23:29
  was literally cackling like what is happening? Give me uh give me American
• 23:33
  name. Huh? Yeah. Die Hard. Cuz it's not even that sounds American. They get to
• 23:39
  the [ __ ] room of the president. He's like there. Go say hello. Oh, by the
• 23:41
  way, it's your mom. And he's like, "What?" Actually, there is no rush for me to
• 23:47
  finish it cuz it's a PlayStation 5 exclusive to start with the sequel. Oh,
• 23:52
  two. Yeah, there you go. That's fine. They'll release it unlike Final Fantasy.
• 23:58
  Well, I'm playing something Japanese this week as well.
• 24:03
  Uh I I mentioned last week that I was going to go back and play all the
• 24:07
  Resident Evils in order starting at the first one, and I [ __ ] am. And
• 24:12
  Resident Evil 1, otherwise just known as
• 24:14
  Resident Evil or [ __ ] Resident Evil.
• 24:20
  It is so good. It is so good. Now, I will admit part of this is nostalgia
• 24:25
  because the first and only other time I played this game, it was me and my
• 24:30
  girlfriend at the time and her brother on PS1 it must have been just every
• 24:36
  night for a week just all sitting around and it didn't matter who had the
• 24:40
  controller. We were all playing, you know what I mean? And just it's so slow
• 24:43
  and so methodical and it's just like what do we do with this [ __ ] weird
• 24:47
  thing we just found? If that game was to release today, I don't think it would do
• 24:52
  well because I love cuz no one has a PS1.
• 24:58
  Yeah. No, but even the remaster that was well
• 25:03
  like the it's not a full it's a they made it prettier or something, didn't
• 25:07
  they? It was a game I think originally it was. It's the GameCube. Uh
• 25:12
  like if that was to release today that would be I think it was a bit too tank
• 25:18
  like the camera soft back and forth. I'll say this though, the camera
• 25:24
  changing. It's [ __ ] awesome. If you remember what it was like
• 25:30
  watching horror movies in the late 90s, early 2000s, it's those camera moves.
• 25:35
  [ __ ] down low with a [ __ ] dead [ __ ] body in the forehead. But I used
• 25:39
  to remember, but it confuses the [ __ ] out of you when you're walking
• 25:45
  one direction and the camera switches 180. And so you have to press forward,
• 25:51
  but your character is walking backwards. And cuz there's so many times where
• 25:56
  you'd start walking and then you'd, oh, I got to move another direction. And
• 25:59
  then you'd walk back off to the other screen and back then the load time
• 26:02
  sucked. Yeah. Because if you're still holding, the direction remains the same.
• 26:06
  But as soon as you stop, the controls reset to whatever. So I've got a system.
• 26:11
  Every time the camera cuts, I take thumb off. I put it back on just instinctively
• 26:16
  just off and back on. And then it's just the direction it looks like it is. Yeah.
• 26:21
  Um, makes sense. But there's there's too much having there's too much trading the
• 26:26
  same ground. But the fact that this is all in one building is [ __ ]
• 26:32
  incredible. Like and and I remember the second one too is almost all in one
• 26:36
  building and then they branch off at the end. And I remember being disappointed
• 26:40
  once you're out of the police station in the second one because it loses that
• 26:44
  claustrophobia and they start bringing that back in but not to like number
• 26:47
  seven when you're in that [ __ ] Hicks house. But man, this game but it's a very very
• 26:53
  different game. It's closer to this than it is to like
• 26:58
  four, five, and six though, which are completely different.
• 27:02
  Yes. You went to South Africa. Oh, Haiti. One of them was in Haiti.
• 27:08
  Even four was different. Yes. Fall was great, though. I think
• 27:14
  four was the last good one before. Look at the remake of four. I got to play
• 27:17
  that. I've got them all. Yeah, I've got them all lined up on the Switch. I'm
• 27:19
  playing this on the Switch, by the way. Um, haven't my Switch been essentially
• 27:24
  in a drawer for quite some time and I just remember how much I enjoy playing.
• 27:28
  So, you're just getting used to this Switch before you get your new Switch.
• 27:31
  I'll be able to pre-order in a few days apparently let you knowing one. Yeah, I
• 27:36
  think uh April 24th, right? Switch to pre-order. But doesn't have to be a
• 27:41
  Switch built entirely in the United States like built entirely in the United
• 27:45
  States. Doesn't that work? Don't want one that's built here, mate.
• 27:49
  We don't know how to do it. first ones. Yeah, we don't know how to do that. Um,
• 27:53
  yeah, 24th of April pre-orders. So, price will remain the same. Yeah, I'm
• 27:59
  not going to pre-order one, but I You don't need to. I didn't need to for the
• 28:03
  last Switch either. I just I remember the last one I went sold out at first
• 28:07
  for a while. Oh, here it was. I walked in the day it released and went, "If
• 28:11
  they have one, I'll buy one. If they don't, I don't care. Look, I can't
• 28:15
  afford one, so it's not going to be a problem. I'm just not going to be able
• 28:18
  to buy one yet. I'm not getting one cuz I don't want to do the same thing I've
• 28:22
  done with this switch and use it twice.
• 28:27
  Yeah, no achievements. No, Charles, you've opened it.
• 28:34
  Ruins everything. Well, speaking of uh speaking of games,
• 28:39
  we might as well stay on topic. I suppose things ruined. Dune Awakening
• 28:44
  has been delayed, which is probably a good thing because it means they'll make
• 28:46
  it better. Um, this is the PC release. It's uh, it was May. Now it's June,
• 28:52
  right? It's not Yeah, it's not too bad. It's not a huge delay. Yeah, just a
• 28:55
  little bit of polish. This is because they had a beta and they got some
• 28:58
  feedback from people and they said, "All right, we'll fix it." Um, I don't know
• 29:02
  when the Xbox version's coming out, though. But um I I don't know whether it
• 29:07
  was this news in particular that made me think of this but it's it's Funcom who make Conan
• 29:13
  Exiles and I was reading about it and I was like you know what I do like Conan Exiles.
• 29:20
  And then I looked on YouTube at some videos of other people playing Conan
• 29:22
  Exiles and I was like you know what we used to do? We used to play Conan
• 29:25
  Exiles. We did. So uh I don't know and I'm I'm interested in doing that again.
• 29:32
  I it's not going to take much to convince me, man. I [ __ ] love Conan Exiles.
• 29:38
  Even though it's it's it's I I couldn't in good conscious call it a good game,
• 29:43
  but for some reason, sure, I really enjoy it. And I was playing it in beta
• 29:48
  and then I was playing when they [ __ ]
• 29:51
  changed everything about it and then it's Yeah. And you don't even get to
• 29:57
  play with your dick out. [ __ ] you. I don't.
• 30:03
  I do. I met your character. Oh, right. Yeah. I know.
• 30:08
  So, yeah. Anyway, I'm I'm been thinking about that. But then Luke, you floated
• 30:11
  the idea of Minecraft instead, which is also a pretty good idea. The reason why
• 30:15
  I went with Minecraft is I just remember the last time we had that server and it just
• 30:21
  reset. Yeah, that's true. And reset fix that. I might be able to set up a
• 30:27
  Minecraft server. M I might be able to set one up on my server downstairs. I
• 30:32
  don't know how intensive a Minecraft server because I'm pretty sure it's all
• 30:34
  crossplay now. So yeah. Yeah, that could be easier and cheaper
• 30:41
  for the two weeks we're going to play for. Yeah, but can you have slaves in
• 30:46
  Minecraft? Yes, you just get some villagers and you box them in. Okay, but
• 30:53
  are they people of color? Because they are in Conan. Well, coincidence. Some
• 30:58
  people are, some people aren't. You can enslave anybody.
• 31:01
  Yeah. But I mean, we don't, but we can. But yeah, you they they could have
• 31:06
  enslaved anyone in the south, too. They didn't. It's true. Well, they did. They
• 31:10
  enslaved a bunch of Scottish and uh Irish people. True, but they kept
• 31:14
  escaping and then blending in. Yeah. I know. It's a fact that I was like
• 31:20
  that's awful that like that's such a factor. Yeah. Just if they look different, it's
• 31:26
  convenient because you can find It makes an awful type of sense, though, doesn't
• 31:29
  it? Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yuck.
• 31:35
  Yeah. Well, should we should we end on the other exciting news that's in here?
• 31:40
  Okay, go ahead. Keyboard. News me.
• 31:44
  Um, Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remastered is getting closer.
• 31:49
  It exists. So, that's news. And also, remember where apparently if you message
• 31:56
  Microsoft support they didn't get the memo that this was not news yet and
• 32:00
  they'll just tell you with a release date. Oh, have they said a release date? I
• 32:05
  think uh yeah, there was an article that said um people were emailing Xbox
• 32:10
  support and just saying, "Oh, wanted to know when the Oblivion remaster is
• 32:13
  coming out." And they were just like, "Oh, yeah, it's a what is it?" Let me
• 32:16
  look. Amazing. Because they're doing this and they're also, from what I've
• 32:21
  heard, doing the Fallout 3 one as well. April 21st, Xbox support accidentally reveals
• 32:27
  Oblivion rem.
• 32:34
  Yeah. Was it? So Oblivion. No, wait. So Oblivion came out 2006 and then Skyrim
• 32:38
  came out 2010. That sounds very close.
• 32:44
  This is an article about Is Oblivion something we can go back to or is it
• 32:49
  Well, have you seen the screenshots of this? It looks It looks incredible. I
• 32:52
  think maybe. Yeah. 2006. I'm concerned that I'm going to be playing it going,
• 32:57
  "Oh, this is not Skyrim." Yeah, it's not Skyrim. Yeah, but that's fine. I play a
• 33:04
  lot of games that aren't Skyrim, and my brain doesn't constantly remind me of
• 33:07
  that fact. If I remember, in in Oblivion, you need to sleep to level up.
• 33:13
  Yes. And I think Hang on. Morowind definitely. Yeah, maybe Oblivion. And I
• 33:19
  think the monsters don't level up with you. No, Oblivion
• 33:26
  was the first game that they do. Morowind, they don't. Yeah, you could go
• 33:30
  to a dungeon and be like overwhelmed by level 50 monsters and stuff. Oh, but
• 33:35
  isn't it a thing like if you go No, I thought it was the other way around
• 33:38
  where if you go into I did that. If you go into like a cave now in they'll be
• 33:43
  level one and then if you come back or they might be too strong for you, but
• 33:46
  when you come back 10 levels later, they're still that same level. So, you feel stronger.
• 33:52
  Well, I think that in in well, Morowind was just the monsters were placed and
• 33:57
  they were the level that they were when they were placed. Whereas Oblivion and
• 34:00
  Skyrim and games now, it scales them. I think right I think was there was one I
• 34:07
  think I don't know if it's this one Fallout where if you went to into a
• 34:10
  dungeon and you went, "No, this is too strong for me. Stay the same as it was.
• 34:13
  It would stay the same as it was the next time you went in." So you would
• 34:17
  come back and feel a lot stronger. I think that's why I go back to my primary
• 34:21
  school and and bash the senior kids there because they used to bash me. I
• 34:25
  mean, not these exact ones, but that's that's scaling, right? Yes. Yep.
• 34:31
  So, I put another article in there. This is just people with screenshots of them
• 34:35
  going onto support and just saying, "Hi, when is the Elder Scrolls Oblivion
• 34:39
  remaster being released?" And they said, "The Elder Scrolls for Oblivion remaster
• 34:42
  is set to release on April 21st, 2025." And people are like, "Oh, fuck." All
• 34:46
  right. Is there an announcement or anything planned for? Well, there
• 34:51
  wasn't. I don't think like No, but is there like a showcase or anything
• 34:55
  planned or just Oh, so what? No, I think they were going to shadow just release
• 34:58
  it. That's the theory because what hap what happened is that the I guess the
• 35:02
  company that did it put up on their
• 35:06
  portfolio um images. I guess they they somebody just didn't think about it and
• 35:11
  just put up oh this is stuff we worked on Elder Scrolls Oblivion and somebody
• 35:15
  noticed it and was like Elder Scrolls Oblivion remaster and then so that
• 35:19
  became news and then and then people were like I'll ask about it and then
• 35:23
  emailed I don't know if this is a support bot or what this is but they
• 35:26
  said when's it coming out and it just told them April 21st. So yeah. Okay. It
• 35:32
  kind of sucks. I wish I'd have came out yesterday. Oh, cuz we've got a long weekend. Oh,
• 35:39
  right. And then a short week and another a short week and another long weekend.
• 35:43
  Oh, well, what's Oh, we got Easter this weekend and Anzac. Yeah, Anzac Day. But
• 35:50
  I'm just the Dawn service. Are you? No, I'm going to be playing Grand Theft Auto
• 35:54
  5. Oh, okay. I'll be in Perth. Um Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've never been to
• 36:00
  Perth, but we're we're meeting friends from Singapore because Perth is the same
• 36:04
  distance from Singapore as it is from Sydney. Yeah. Um two weeks in Perth with Paul
• 36:11
  Cunningham. Yeah. Paul, you if you're listening, and I know you're not, you
• 36:15
  are welcome. You're welcome. Had a [ __ ] great time. Yeah. And didn't he
• 36:21
  get hit on by a cab? He did. Well, um No, I know. I I teased him, but
• 36:28
  the guy just wanted to hang out. I think talk about Star Trek, but realized he
• 36:31
  loves Star Trek, too. Yeah, there's there's only one guy in Perth that likes
• 36:34
  Star Trek. I'm thinking of tracking that guy down. Well, just get a cab. They
• 36:39
  don't exist anymore. The one the one taxi. Yeah.
• 36:44
  All right. Perfect. Where should Let's see. Oh, you know what we've got,
• 36:51
  which we haven't had in a long time because we don't care about this
• 36:53
  anymore, is we've got some Star Wars news. There's quite a bit of Star Wars
• 36:56
  news. I haven't looked into this Star Wars news. I've been seeing stuff
• 37:00
  popping up. I haven't looked at it. Yeah, I guess there must be some Disney
• 37:04
  event on it cuz there's a bunch of news. Soul celebrations.
• 37:09
  Is that on right now? How did I not know that? Cuz I don't care about Star Wars
• 37:12
  anymore. It's got It's gotten to the point. Well, I didn't even know that was
• 37:15
  happening right now. I know. I also don't know why they don't have Star Wars
• 37:18
  celebrations around May the 4th. Yeah. Like that just would make sense. I mean,
• 37:24
  it is around May the 4th. It's around it, but it's easy. You're marketing right there.
• 37:30
  So, the one thing that caught my eye just quickly, cuz there's no information
• 37:34
  about this, so I'll just get it out there quickly, is I saw Star Wars Star
• 37:38
  Fighter was announced. It's a movie set
• 37:42
  after Rise of Skywalker about presumably
• 37:45
  a pilot and it stars Ryan Gosling.
• 37:50
  So, could have Maybe it's what Luke wants, but probably it's not.
• 37:55
  I want a television show that's basically Battle Star Galactica and Star
• 38:00
  Wars or Space Above and Beyond. You want X-Wing versus TIE Fighter the show? Yes.
• 38:06
  Yes. I've actually been thinking I wouldn't mind this. Remember Space Above
• 38:10
  Beyond? Yeah. I want I want more of that because that was also just a fight but
• 38:14
  they also did ground missions which is what ro
• 38:21
  after you watch top secret. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then give you know Babylon 5
• 38:25
  another watch. Yeah. I'm in the middle of watching Babylon 5 again at the
• 38:29
  moment. Of course you are. You're always in the middle of watching Bab 5 again.
• 38:34
  Oh, it takes a long time. Yeah. I've thought about watching something else
• 38:39
  that you like, Luke. I've I'm very close and I've bookmarked it here. I'm very
• 38:43
  close to watching Rootech again. So, I've not seen that since I was a kid.
• 38:48
  And uh I've just been watching I've been watching the original Voltron. Mhm.
• 38:55
  Um, uh, and I've been flicking between the the American re-edit and
• 39:00
  the [ __ ] mega golion, whatever it's
• 39:04
  called in Japan, which is, you know, they've the Americans are just making up
• 39:09
  their own scripts for him, going, "Okay, these two guys are brothers." And then
• 39:12
  the American one is like, "That's the same guy." You know, imagine they did
• 39:17
  that for Death Stranding. I would love to see what the [ __ ] what they come
• 39:20
  up with. Yeah. But the robot's good. Throw attack was the first cut scene I
• 39:24
  watched that had death in it and characters evolved and grew.
• 39:29
  You start off thinking li m's the character you want to be with, but it's
• 39:32
  actually Lisa Hayes. Which is the one that kisses him above the birthday cake
• 39:37
  and then tucks him in in bed? Kisses above the birthday. Is that a euphemism?
• 39:40
  What? Right above. Kiss me above my birthday cake. I swear, Luke, the the
• 39:45
  the one thing that I remember about Rootech from a kid is that it's his
• 39:51
  birthday and she makes him a cake and then they kiss. And I think it was the
• 39:54
  first time I ever saw a kiss or at least in a kid show. God, it's been so long
• 39:59
  since I've watched it cuz it could be either of them. You were like, "Oh,
• 40:02
  what's he doing to her?" Maybe I need to watch that again. No,
• 40:09
  don't eat her. Eat the cake. And the music in it is so great. I
• 40:14
  listen to the soundtrack every now and again. Oh, sick. Music in [ __ ]
• 40:18
  Voltron is [ __ ] incredible. It's It's just the It's the most 80s music you
• 40:23
  could imagine. Just the cheapest synth that you possibly music. Yeah. One thing
• 40:29
  I like about playing we play Switch games, LRA and I, and any any game,
• 40:33
  right, if it's got like a little catchy tune, she starts bopping. She goes, "Oh,
• 40:36
  I like this music." So funny. just any music in a game. If
• 40:40
  if she's like, "Oh, yeah." We were
• 40:47
  playing What's the [ __ ] Mario game where you the first level if you got to
• 40:51
  find somebody's lost pants? What? That's what we've been playing.
• 40:56
  Mario RPG or something. Have you found the pants yet? Paper Mario. I don't
• 41:00
  know. We did find the pants. Yeah, we did. I checked a game called Elbow,
• 41:04
  which actually is quite good if you're looking for a game to play with Harper. Elbow.
• 41:08
  Alba. Alba. I think actually it's like a little you play like a little girl on an
• 41:14
  island and you got to go around and take photos of wildlife and uh the mayor is
• 41:20
  trying to build a luxury hotel and you want to get a petition signed to stop
• 41:24
  him. So you just go around and do stuff. It's just cute little game. It's very um
• 41:29
  kid-friendly. Did you ever play Harper has been playing this game on on my Switch this
• 41:35
  week called Thomas Was Alone. Did you ever play this? Oh yeah. I years ago.
• 41:39
  Yeah, it's not a kids game. But it's it's not a kids game, right? But for
• 41:44
  those who don't know, it's about a sentient pixel in a pixel world who has
• 41:50
  to work out. He he's not aware that he's in a game or even know what a game is.
• 41:54
  But because he discovers what a game is as you go along and explains it to you
• 42:00
  like you've also never heard what a game is. It's great for people just learning
• 42:03
  games like kids because he says things
• 42:07
  like um okay I fell down if only there was some kind of reverse falling where I
• 42:13
  could fall but up and onto the platform and like he's like maybe I'll make that
• 42:19
  the Y button you know and that's kind of like a intuitive way of explaining to
• 42:25
  someone who doesn't just intuitively the game is by one of the people from Alana
• 42:29
  Pierce's podcast whose name I've forgotten something or other. Oh,
• 42:35
  well, it does remind an article I read recently about like we sort of take for
• 42:39
  granted like games now, like how easy it is like stuff. I was there the guy wrote
• 42:45
  an article about like he's starting to play games with his girlfriend and she's
• 42:49
  not played games and she's like playing a racing game and didn't even think to
• 42:52
  look at like the map to see where the course was. So, she's like, I have no
• 42:55
  idea where I'm going. And just little things like that that just you just you
• 43:00
  just know. doesn't game. And when I she wanted to have a go with something once
• 43:04
  and then she was like, "What are the controls?" I'm like, "Same as every
• 43:07
  other game." She's like, "Yeah, what?" I'm like, "Oh, okay. This one controls
• 43:11
  the direction you face. This one controls the camera." She's like, "What?
• 43:13
  I've got to move the camera as well." I'm like, "No, you just move it as you
• 43:17
  go." Like, don't you? Yeah. It's intuitive at this point. Yeah. I was a
• 43:23
  really good video I say once about how old games would introduce gameplay
• 43:27
  mechanics. Like Mega Man's a good example apparently where you know you
• 43:32
  see something happen before you kind of get to it. So you go, "Oh, I'm going to
• 43:36
  have to jump over that guy shooting bullets, but he's on the when you first
• 43:40
  see him, he's doing it, but he's on the other side of a wall or something." So
• 43:43
  you go, "Oh, okay." You know, it like eases you into all these gameplay and
• 43:48
  then it gets [ __ ] hard later. Yeah. Yeah. Good games ease you into it. back
• 43:53
  in the day. They didn't always like never thought about it when I was a kid.
• 43:58
  Played the games, but it doesn't. They basically were designed to teach you how
• 44:02
  to do it without obviously teaching you. But the first movies that came out,
• 44:07
  there used to be have to be a guy standing in the [ __ ] auditorium
• 44:11
  going, "That's not a different guy. That's the same guy from further back,
• 44:16
  right?" Like, yeah, this is not a different building. They're climbing out
• 44:19
  the window that you just saw them get onto the window sill in the last shot
• 44:23
  cuz people would be like, "What's going on?" This is completely different now.
• 44:27
  Yeah. Like confused. Now you've cut to somebody outside. Yes. They're outside
• 44:31
  the same building. Time has passed.
• 44:36
  Give me a book. I've started reading a book this week.
• 44:41
  You might like it actually, but I don't know. But this is the second time I've
• 44:45
  tried because when I heard that China Mavville, who I love, has teamed up with
• 44:51
  Kiana Reeves, who I love to write a book, I was like, I'm getting it day
• 44:56
  one. Mhm. And I got it, pre-order, pre-ordered a book. I don't think I've
• 45:01
  ever done that before. Right. Came out, read the first chapter. I was like,
• 45:06
  what? I don't think I'm into this. Yeah, it's confusing and a bit vague and I
• 45:11
  don't know that I like the pros. And then twice I've started to try to
• 45:15
  read that first chapter again and I'm like maybe I just don't like this. And
• 45:20
  then for some reason today I'm like I just need something that's not Gene Wolf
• 45:24
  because I've finished all five of the books of the new son. Then I read two of
• 45:29
  his standalones and then I started the books of the long sun which is the next
• 45:34
  fivepart series. God, [ __ ] me. So good. Um and I just wanted to read something
• 45:40
  that wasn't that. And so I was like, I'll I'll pick this up. And I'm So this is your June.
• 45:46
  Yes. But it's just clicked. It's just clicked this time. Uh I'm like, okay, I
• 45:52
  think I know. I think I think I get it. Cuz actually I find, you know, a movie
• 45:57
  sometimes you can just put on a movie and watch it, know nothing about it, and
• 46:00
  the movie will tell you what it's about. Not all books do that. You know what I
• 46:04
  mean? Like some books you can get halfway through going, I still don't
• 46:06
  know what kind Yeah. I like to know what kind of book I'm
• 46:11
  reading. It helps me read it. Sure. You know where it's going, basically. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:18
  Should we cut back around to some of the Star Wars news we're also still hinting
• 46:22
  at? Oh, yeah. Probably. Yeah, probably. Um, so there's a new Star Wars Lego set
• 46:27
  coming out, which I'm looking at and I don't know. Yeah, cuz I was going to ask
• 46:34
  you specifically, Luke, because I like Lego. I've actually bought some Lego
• 46:37
  this very week. So, like I'm not one to to, you know, to criticize new Lego
• 46:43
  sets, especially not Star Wars stuff, but I don't want this. And I wanted to
• 46:47
  know if you wanted this. I I'm I'm trying to work this out. It's it's it's
• 46:52
  a it's tough. Um cuz sometimes I see things and I go, I want that. I don't
• 46:57
  want it enough to buy it, but my brain wants it. I want this. The price needs
• 47:02
  to be a lot better. You need to explain what it is. You haven't even said. Yeah.
• 47:08
  So, it's just the Star Wars logo. Bright yellow. It's Star Wars. It does look like it's
• 47:15
  got a little compartment, but I don't know why it's It's got something going
• 47:19
  on in the negative space, but I hidden surprise. Oh, okay. Look out for fun inside the T.
• 47:26
  Oh, I know what it is. I know what it is. What is it? It's the It's the um
• 47:31
  tentive four being chased by the star. Okay, we've just ruined the surprise.
• 47:37
  But that's what I know of it on the on the Lego website. It's not my fault.
• 47:41
  Probably know what it is if you go and look at the box when this is Yeah. I
• 47:45
  don't know. It just seems Do you have Star Wars Lego? Although it's a lot of
• 47:50
  pieces though. Yeah, cuz you got to make [ __ ] curves on the S and [ __ ] like
• 47:55
  it's it's a I don't know. I don't know. 700 pieces. More like a jigsaw puzzle
• 48:00
  than a Lego set. But 700 pieces for $110
• 48:03
  is not bad. That's a Yeah, but because
• 48:08
  this has zero points of articulation, right? You can't open this up and play
• 48:13
  it. It's just a logo. Well, how much Lego are you playing with at the moment?
• 48:20
  Uh, more than you might think. I rebuilt the um the Elsa ice castle during the
• 48:25
  week cuz it had kind of semi come apart. But are you playing with that or Well,
• 48:31
  no, but it was fun to build it. He plays with Elsa. But
• 48:36
  look, if this was half the price, I'd probably get it. Actually, cuz I do want
• 48:40
  some more Lego. It's been ages since I've got some Lego.
• 48:46
  I've got some Lego down here that I got for uh Christmas that I need to play
• 48:50
  with. It's the um and center McLaren Formula 1 car. That'll be fun.
• 48:56
  Got to do that. Yeah. Does the the little mini fig of center in there as
• 49:01
  well? Yeah. with a head.
• 49:05
  It's not a Williams. That was a That was a joke in Portage. Oh, yes. Oh, look at
• 49:10
  that. That would be a fun build. Uh, I'll stop you there. Isn't that supposed
• 49:14
  to have a Malro logo on it?
• 49:18
  If it was accurate to the period. Yeah. But look, there's one more bit of Star
• 49:23
  Wars news that I'm actually kind of excited about. if this is actually happening.
• 49:29
  It's happening in one place only. Oh
• 49:34
  yeah. So yeah. No, there's a there's a
• 49:38
  museum in England who has a print of 77
• 49:42
  Star Wars unaltered. Not even with the episode 4 on it evidently. Oh wow.
• 49:49
  Original unaltered. Cuz that didn't come to 78.
• 49:53
  Yeah. hated and banned by George Lucas.
• 49:59
  Is it really hated and banned or he just goes it seems to be he's made himself
• 50:04
  very clear. Well, he he does I don't think
• 50:07
  it's B. It's just I want you to look at the final stuff I've done. can't stop
• 50:13
  tinkering with it and need but but they should be this is a new hope final final
• 50:18
  use this file finally capitals
• 50:21
  exclamation mark v10 like this is he keeps doing this I mean he doesn't
• 50:27
  anymore he doesn't have the rights to not allowed to anymore but well I think
• 50:31
  he's still he still tried to get people ears I think
• 50:36
  yeah I mean but I get him back in this so are they just is this something
• 50:40
  that's going to be screening in the museum all the time for actually special screening
• 50:46
  should have I can't remember it's the opening of a film festival the British
• 50:50
  film institutees film on film festival happening in June and it will open film
• 50:55
  of the film on film action yeah watch
• 50:59
  one film [ __ ] another film what is Star Wars going to [ __ ] George
• 51:06
  Lucas yeah Matt you should go uh I'd love to cuz it's easier for you
• 51:12
  to get. Oh, I thought you were asking Matt to leave. Matt, you should go.
• 51:17
  You outstage your will. You should go. You should go [ __ ] Star Wars. That'd be
• 51:20
  great. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I've got some other Star Wars news
• 51:24
  just quickly before we move on as well. Okay. Oh, no. I I I navigated away to
• 51:30
  the Alba page. I am going to see Star Wars next month. Oh, no. It's over here.
• 51:36
  See, speaking of us being old, are you going to see Revenge of the Sith?
• 51:42
  No, it's the 20th anniversary of Revenge of Revenge of the Sith. I know. Isn't
• 51:48
  that [ __ ] Isn't that completely [ __ ] That's the one that I was already old
• 51:52
  when it came out. That can't be 20 years ago. It's not possible. Apparently, it
• 51:57
  is. No, I was just going to I'm just going to cuz they'll do the normal May
• 52:01
  the 4th. They'll do the screenings and I'm I'll go see at least Star Wars and
• 52:06
  Empire. Yeah. It's nice to see him on the big
• 52:11
  screen every now and again. I went back to I I saw and I'm sure you all did too.
• 52:17
  Did you guys go and see the special editions when they were a new concept?
• 52:21
  Yeah. Like 92 or whenever that was 94? I went every day cuz they released on a
• 52:27
  Thursday. I'd skip Sport and go to the
• 52:30
  movies to watch it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I
• 52:34
  saw them all. loved it. That are amazing cuz that was our first chance to see on
• 52:40
  the big screen. Yep. Special edition. Sure. But that's what we at the time. I
• 52:45
  wasn't really like thinking about it. I was kind of
• 52:48
  like, oh wow, I'm going to see this new thing. And then later on it was kind of
• 52:52
  like the changes were like return. I was I didn't go to see it for the changes.
• 52:57
  And I I remember thinking when I saw Empire Strikes Back that
• 53:03
  like, oh, these are good changes. Empire had the least amount of
• 53:08
  changes running from 100 Stormtroopers instead of six, you know, it just it
• 53:13
  made more sense. But um No, I think Empire had the least amount of changes.
• 53:17
  Star War the first one had the Luke screaming when he falls down the the
• 53:23
  shaft, which is a bit weird. That's true. But they didn't put a CGI singer
• 53:29
  with big lips coming at the camera. They didn't do that. They did do that. Oh
• 53:35
  god, that song. And here's the thing. Return of the Jedi is my least favorite
• 53:40
  of the three existing Star Wars movies, right? Um,
• 53:46
  and but I think the first act, like the first 30 minutes of that is some of the
• 53:52
  best Star Wars that exists. It's as good as anything in the other two movies.
• 53:56
  Like, don't put dumb stuff in that sequence. Like, make the
• 54:01
  [ __ ] I don't care. I hated them anyway. Even as a kid, I was like, nah,
• 54:06
  this isn't Star Wars. First sequence. But anyway, there's more Star Wars
• 54:11
  movies coming and they have confirmed which ones are and which ones aren't.
• 54:15
  So, here is the list. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. Ruin Johnson.
• 54:21
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, George, Favro,
• 54:27
  Mandalorian, and Gru. Obviously, that's Yeah, they showed footage of that or
• 54:31
  something, I believe. I don't care. Don't care. Then there is James Mangold
• 54:37
  who did Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Uh, and Logan um doing Dawn of
• 54:44
  the Jedi, which is is that one set like hundreds of years before, isn't it?
• 54:50
  Yeah. set when discovery star Michelle Trackctenberg as Dawn but uh we've got
• 54:55
  some news about that and they were going to it was going to open on a crack of
• 54:58
  dawn shot um but uh
• 55:05
  and now it is not to watch Euro trip if you want to see that. Yeah, we do have
• 55:10
  some MH Treenberg news later in the after party. Uh Euro trip the one she
• 55:15
  was in. Yeah. Yes, it was definitely definitely Euro Trip. Yeah, Scotty
• 55:19
  doesn't know. Do you know what's funny? Yeah. I was [Music]
• 55:24
  thinking the other day I'm like, "Oh, now that M T Stretchber's dead, I might
• 55:29
  rewatch um the Lost in Space movie." And I was like, she's not her. She's not in
• 55:35
  that. It's the other one.
• 55:40
  She was She's significantly younger than the girls I liked when I was just to put
• 55:47
  that out there. Like when we watched Buffy, she was literally a child. That's
• 55:50
  what I'm saying. Yes. Well, yeah. She was she was 39 died. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:56
  And we were watching her when we were 18. Mhm.
• 56:01
  So she would have been what? 13? No. She's literally in Buffy. Yeah. She was
• 56:07
  like a little kid, right? How old was Tell that to
• 56:13
  Jos. not allowed to be in the same room as her alone. It says 39 years. That's
• 56:18
  the AI being stupid. Not when she died. She
• 56:24
  was blah blah blah. Come on.
• 56:29
  15 when she was playing
• 56:32
  Dawn. Okay. So there is also a
• 56:38
  movie directed by Charmaine Oayed Chinoi who is a Pakistani journalist and
• 56:45
  political activist. Okay. Making is
• 56:49
  going to be directing the next Ray movie. Oh okay. Can can you can you not
• 56:55
  do that? So that is on the list. Dave Fona is
• 57:01
  building towards a New Republic movie. culminating the story lines of
• 57:05
  Mandalorian and
• 57:10
  assa's movie is still technically green lit, but he's only handed in the first
• 57:16
  act. Uh oh, no, he's handed in it all. They only like the first act. He's been
• 57:21
  asked to rewrite the rest. That's not okay.
• 57:28
  Yeah. Had so many books. No mention of Ryan Johnson.
• 57:35
  I still love the Ryan Johnson one. He brings it up every now and again. I
• 57:38
  don't know if he still does, but since his his movie came out, Disney has never
• 57:42
  spoken of it again. Yeah, they did say at one point it's
• 57:48
  still on the on the books, right? Didn't they? Or did I think they were just
• 57:51
  being nice maybe? Yeah, I think I think they said, "Oh, well, it's not it's not
• 57:56
  technically I mean, whatever you think about um The Last Jedi, it was divisive
• 58:03
  and they don't want I hate I hate what
• 58:06
  he did to Luke Skywalker." Yeah, I know.
• 58:11
  Yeah. So did Mark Hamill. Yeah. So, there's also a trilogy cuz they just got
• 58:18
  to have someone doing a trilogy. quite a trilogy. Being helmed by the director of X-Men:
• 58:24
  Days of Future Past, which I thought was excellent. Oh, yeah.
• 58:28
  Uh, so we'll see.
• 58:34
  That's all of them. That's all of them. That's That's it. That we're um there's
• 58:39
  been no Star Wars movie news for quite a while. It's interesting. They've got a
• 58:43
  they have got a bunch going on because well either there hasn't been Star Wars
• 58:48
  movie news or we just didn't care. I think they slowed down because I think
• 58:51
  they realized that what they were doing wasn't working
• 58:55
  out trash. It was bought by a TV studio who have a streaming platform as their
• 59:01
  number one product. They're going to want to make shows so they can put it on
• 59:04
  that. Hey, we get Andal season 2 very
• 59:07
  soon. Looks quite good in it.
• 59:11
  I didn't know that. Is he new? He was also in Rogue One. Yeah. Yeah. New
• 59:17
  trailer cuz Krennic is back. He was in it and I think Vader's in it too.
• 59:22
  Looking for the trailer at least one shot Ben Mendelson. So that's good.
• 59:27
  Unless they're just doing a fake out in which case he's not in it. And it I mean
• 59:31
  don't do that. Well advertise Rogue One trailer which has nothing to do with the
• 59:36
  movie called Rogue One. It's just shots cool stuff. Gareth Evans thought was
• 59:41
  awesome and he was correct. But he it was also right not to include a lot of
• 59:46
  that cool stuff in the movie cuz it would have been terrible. Bring it out.
• 59:50
  Just let me see it. Just let me see it once. I want to see the ending on there
• 59:54
  on the beach formal all over again. Like what was that ending? I want to see the
• 59:58
  ending where she's fighting Krennic in a tie fighter on the top of a tower. Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  She wasn't fighting Krennic. She was running over to the thing.
• 1:00:08
  But he was in a tie fighter shooting at it, wasn't he? I don't know that it was
• 1:00:11
  him in the tie fighter. No, we have to go back and look
• 1:00:15
  at it. I think you have just decided that that's cannon now. It's the shot is
• 1:00:19
  in the movie. It's her running to the to the radio thing on the tower. No, but in
• 1:00:24
  my head in the trailer, Tie Fighter comes up in in and you don't see who's
• 1:00:28
  in it. In my head, it was him. I mean, I mean, maybe it was, but I think it was
• 1:00:33
  Die Hardman in that. I think I think you're right. Just to
• 1:00:39
  cap off the drinking game, just before we go over to the afterparty, there's an
• 1:00:43
  episode of um uh Rick and Morty. Peter
• 1:00:47
  Dinklage is guest starring in it. Is he? And uh Yes. Yes. He plays this alien mob
• 1:00:53
  boss, but um
• 1:00:56
  uh the the daughter starts doing a die hard and Dinglage as a mothball boss.
• 1:01:02
  They're on the phone, you know, cuz in die hard they got the the radios. And
• 1:01:05
  he's like, "Are you doing a die hard?" She's like, "I don't know. Are you doing
• 1:01:09
  a die hard to me?" And he's like, "Well, you wouldn't know because I if I'm doing
• 1:01:12
  a die hard." It's it's very funny. It's funny that I'm explaining it. I watched
• 1:01:17
  just I know Star Wars reminded me was clips of Filamina Kunk on um YouTube. So
• 1:01:23
  talking to that historian and she's like, "Who was the Darth Vader of World
• 1:01:27
  War II?" And you know that that guy who's very serious. He goes, "I don't
• 1:01:30
  think anybody in World War II was quite as powerful as someone like Darth
• 1:01:34
  Vader." And she goes, "Luke Skywalker." And he go he's like, "I don't know. I
• 1:01:39
  think probably a lot of people probably thought they were sort of heroic like a
• 1:01:43
  Luke Skywalker." And it just becomes this very serious conversation. So
• 1:01:46
  funny. Amazing. Yeah. Do you like Abba? I love Abba. I love
• 1:01:52
  Aba. What's your favorite song? Dancing Queen. Queen. Without missing a beat. So
• 1:01:59
  funny. Can we talk about something else other than history? You can talk about
• 1:02:02
  anything you want. Love like ever. I love that voice. She goes, "Tell me what
• 1:02:08
  was the deal with the Soviet onion." And he goes, "Well, I think you mean Soviet
• 1:02:13
  Union, but if you do want to talk about Russian vegetables, we could do that."
• 1:02:16
  She goes, "Tell, okay, tell me Russian vegetables." He goes, "Well, they've got
• 1:02:18
  a lot of potatoes and a lot of love that guy."
• 1:02:24
  Yeah. He's like, "Sure, we could do this." King Arthur came a lot.
• 1:02:33
  The show is so funny. Listers, if you have witnesses, if you don't know
• 1:02:36
  Filamina Kunk, Yeah. look up. She's just so good at doing it with a straight
• 1:02:41
  face. I don't know how she does it. Yeah. But even the people she's
• 1:02:47
  interviewing, I don't know how they keep a straight face as well sometimes.
• 1:02:53
  I think Yeah. If you're if you're being filmed and you're
• 1:02:57
  on like you've been told you're going to be interviewed about this subject you're
• 1:03:00
  a subject matter expert in and someone asks you a [ __ ] stupid questions of
• 1:03:03
  camera there you'd be like what do I do I just go with this it's for a TV show
• 1:03:07
  just play this straight there's like kind of an implicit get sound later just
• 1:03:11
  go with it kind of thing but they they would know that they're on for a comedy
• 1:03:15
  show like it and must know cuz he's been on a couple
• 1:03:20
  times but he's just very good at rolling with it. Yeah, he must know it's not real.
• 1:03:26
  It's all but I thought that about Borat and uh and Ri, but there was a long time
• 1:03:31
  there where they got he got mileage out of that when I was like people know who
• 1:03:35
  he is. But that's why the latest Borat movie is genius because he's going
• 1:03:39
  around with this girl. Oh, yeah. His daughter. And she's the one doing that
• 1:03:44
  stuff and he just films pre-recorded stuff with her going, "Okay, go and do
• 1:03:48
  this crazy thing." It's okay. cuz he couldn't do it now. He'd be like, "Hey,
• 1:03:53
  it's Borat." No, he's he could maybe do a new character, but like he couldn't do
• 1:03:58
  Borat. Everyone [ __ ] knows who I don't want him to do it. I I didn't care for that.
• 1:04:04
  I liked the original Borat stuff. It was very funny. Yeah, I thought the Borat
• 1:04:09
  sequel was was good, too. Man, have you seen that one where he's going, he's in America?
• 1:04:15
  When this was on, none of us lived in America, but now one of us does, so
• 1:04:19
  don't be offended, Matt. But he's in America. [ __ ] watch. He's on a hunt.
• 1:04:23
  I'll [ __ ] tariff you so hard. Yeah. Come out with all those those
• 1:04:29
  weapons you're going to build in America from American
• 1:04:33
  parts. We buy ours from China. We know they work.
• 1:04:38
  Um, but he's a hunt animal hunting trip with these guys in there in this jeep.
• 1:04:44
  and he's like, "Uh, so after we kill the animals, we kill uh we kill a Jew." And
• 1:04:51
  uh they're like, "Well, obviously that would be something we would be
• 1:04:54
  interested in killing Jews, but uh unfortunately the laws of this country
• 1:04:58
  forbid that what? Yeah. To just get people to say
• 1:05:05
  [ __ ] like that is genius." I think there is because isn't that those college the college
• 1:05:11
  kids sued because yeah there is an implicit thing when you're being filmed that it's
• 1:05:16
  like do I just go along with this kind of thing I don't know it's it's weird in
• 1:05:21
  a way it's like a little coercive in a way right right yeah like you don't
• 1:05:26
  want to be the person who's like no no go no I don't think this is although I
• 1:05:32
  in that case in the case of someone's like do should we go in I mean yeah you
• 1:05:36
  know what you can put a sound bite of me not being a Nazi all over the internet.
• 1:05:40
  Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I should clarify. What I'm talking about is just
• 1:05:44
  kunk or being silly like that where someone literally said, "Do you want to
• 1:05:47
  go murder anybody?" I'd be like, "No." Oh, thanks. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah. Well,
• 1:05:52
  would you because there was that what's that experiment where they get people to
• 1:05:56
  just they keep saying just please I might joke about it if I was thought it
• 1:06:00
  was just a a show. I might make a little gag, but I wouldn't I wouldn't do what
• 1:06:05
  what that guy does and be like, well, you know, I'd love to do that, but I'm
• 1:06:07
  not allowed to. I would not do that. Yes. Well, you would. No, it would work
• 1:06:13
  when you push the button. Yeah. And screaming. Everyone kept pushing the
• 1:06:17
  button, but then you could hear a scream somewhere in the background. Well, no.
• 1:06:20
  They actually found out in this test, they actually found that the women were
• 1:06:23
  more likely to push the button because it was a man in a lab coat sort of so
• 1:06:28
  more official. I believe that was a test. So women were no you're asking me
• 1:06:32
  to do this when the men would I think would push back a little bit more I
• 1:06:36
  should get a lab coat and then women would do what I tell them to do. Is that
• 1:06:40
  what you're saying? That's exactly what I'm saying. And also when I said that I
• 1:06:43
  wouldn't do what that guy did. I didn't mean that I would want to do it but I
• 1:06:46
  wouldn't. What I mean is that is jumping through a lot of hoops here. Oh I just
• 1:06:50
  realized that that does sound quite bad. It's like I'm not going to admit to that
• 1:06:54
  on television. Now what I mean is it's not what I meant to Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  No matter what you think. Yeah. You don't catch me like that.
• 1:07:07
  You know where they can catch you? Where? Outside. The after party. Oh,
• 1:07:12
  remember that? Catch me outside. Catch me outside. How about that? 15 minutes.
• 1:07:16
  Yeah. Yeah. She She's not the after. Is the Hawk tour girl still famous or is
• 1:07:21
  that over already? No, she's disappeared. No, she didn't. She come back and say
• 1:07:26
  she did an interview where she said basically she said she doesn't know what
• 1:07:29
  the [ __ ] she's doing and she's absolving herself of any responsibility. That's
• 1:07:34
  sort of it. She sort of disappeared from that. Frankly, I believe that to be
• 1:07:38
  honest. They told her she'd make a bunch of money and okay. Yeah. People got to
• 1:07:42
  her and they went, "We're going to make a lot of money off you." They promised
• 1:07:45
  her a lot of stuff and then she should have known better, but she clearly
• 1:07:49
  didn't. I I think she's still walking away with a few hundred,000
• 1:07:53
  for 15 minutes of fame. I Yeah,
• 1:07:57
  it's not like uh someone like Boogie, you know, Boogie 298 did a rug pull. I'm
• 1:08:03
  pretty sure he knew what was going on. Oh, maybe not. He probably again, he's
• 1:08:07
  desperate. Maybe they just told him. He got people hear what they want to hear
• 1:08:11
  and I believe. I think he didn't care. I think he just Anyone offers him money,
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  he'd do it. You're right. Yeah, probably right. I think she was a little more
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  purchased nerdcoin. Gasmcoin coingasm. coin.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, we even did a logo for it. You can you the coin? We don't accept it as
• 1:08:31
  payment for the after party, unfortunately. No, but we would accept
• 1:08:34
  it as payment for gifts that you buy us.
• 1:08:39
  Why from us? They're going to pay us coin gasm to buy us gifts. No, no, we
• 1:08:46
  don't want it back. If you buy the coin, it's yours. We don't want it back. Yeah,
• 1:08:49
  it's yours. Yeah. Yeah. Then they're they're going to cash out. Mhm. And
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  they're going to use that money to buy us gifts. I'm going to use the money
• 1:08:56
  they give me to buy a rug. And then I'm going to pull that out. Pull the rug. I
• 1:09:00
  don't I don't quite understand the process, but I've been told that's a
• 1:09:03
  good way to make money. Yes. You get a rug. Don't you have your own Bitcoin so
• 1:09:07
  that Russian leaders can bribe you anonymously? That isn't it? Isn't that
• 1:09:13
  Is that how that works? Isn't that what you do? Why is Putin bribing
• 1:09:17
  us? I I don't have the coin. I'm not the one with a coin, mate.
• 1:09:22
  I don't know. Ask you know where there are no Russian oligarchs as far as I know.
• 1:09:29
  Not today of any kind in the afterparty. What's the afterparty, Dan? Head on over
• 1:09:35
  to patreon.comparty or no multiple nerdasm. Multiple nergasm.
• 1:09:42
  Just go to the website. Just type in multiple. Type into Google Patreon
• 1:09:46
  multiple nerdgasm. It'll take you there. Let's make sure that does work.
• 1:09:53
  $5 a month. Uh you can join us in the afterparty. Last week it was twice the
• 1:09:57
  length of the main show. It was ridiculous. It does. Um well, I'm not
• 1:10:03
  going to do that again. I'm drawing the line uh at the 1 hour mark. But
• 1:10:09
  uh you don't have to come to the afterparty. Uh you can go to Patreon and
• 1:10:14
  and just and just follow us on there to see what we're doing. Uh you can spend
• 1:10:18
  as little as a dollar a month to um get the show early.
• 1:10:23
  Uh but you don't get to listen to the after party. No. No. But if you do sign
• 1:10:28
  up, you get all the past ones so far. All of them. Because we're not like
• 1:10:33
  those [ __ ] Cuz I've also subscribed to something to get something that was
• 1:10:37
  mentioned, but I subscribed later and it was like, "Nah, bro. You get the
• 1:10:41
  episodes from now, not the one you thought you were getting." That's
• 1:10:44
  annoying. Oh, that that's wrong. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to do that to you.
• 1:10:51
  No. And if you're out there to do that to you. No. That's right. Matt might
• 1:10:57
  I could do it, but I won't do it. Yeah. He won't do it. He can though. And
• 1:11:01
  you're not going to get me to admit that I will do it just because we're on a
• 1:11:03
  [ __ ] TV show. Yeah. Go on along with your
• 1:11:08
  [ __ ] I will sigh hyle whom I want to
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  zig hile when I want to zigile. and you won't know about
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  it cuz this is a podcast.
• 1:11:23
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