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Looking back on an incredible Frozen Four and Wisconsin's late rally for its 8th NCAA title · The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey

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  Speaker 1: Uscho dot com. Hi everyone, Welcome to the podcast. Todd
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  Speaker 1: Moluski and Nicole Hasey here from us echo dot com,
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  Speaker 1: recovering from a long weekend at the Frozen four in Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 1: An exciting weekend, three really good games and congratulations off
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  Speaker 1: the top. Here to Wisconsin the twenty twenty five national champions,
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  Speaker 1: their eighth championship. A heck of a finish. We will
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  Speaker 1: get to all of that everything from the weekend. But Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing? I mean, this is a lot,
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  Speaker 1: It's a long season. It's a really intense weekend. When
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  Speaker 1: you talk about two games Friday, Pattycaz Saturday and the
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  Speaker 1: championship game Sunday, how are you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: I slept a lot today. I should ask you you
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  Speaker 2: did you have to? Actually, because I'm self employed, I
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  Speaker 2: got to take the day off. I just some phone interviews.
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  Speaker 2: But I was lucky not to chill out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not going well.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm good. It's uh, it's always this weird. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: by the time we got to the championship game, the
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  Speaker 2: the semifinal, that first semi Jesus, by the end of
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  Speaker 2: the semi final day, that first semifinal game felt like
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  Speaker 2: it happened three days earlier, and like thinking of when
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  Speaker 2: some of the press conference are like, when did that happen?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it all starts to run together, but
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  Speaker 2: it's just this like massive build up and like not
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  Speaker 2: that it's a lot town because it's not, and those
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  Speaker 2: games certainly weren't. But it's just alsen, it's over, and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh so that It is just always a
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  Speaker 2: weird kind of abrupt end to the season that way,
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  Speaker 2: but no, it's uh, yeah, it was nice to sleep
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  Speaker 2: in today.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I hope you were able to, uh for our
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  Speaker 1: listeners out there, You're hope it will check out our
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  Speaker 1: extra episodes from Minneapolis. We had uh one with some
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  Speaker 1: interviews with players, and then we had one with an
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  Speaker 1: interview from with Casey O'Brien, the Patty Caz winner. Today,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go through things as they happen, so well,
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  Speaker 1: our first segment is gonna be about the semifinal games.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Patty Kaz, and then we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a whole segment about that championship game, because man,
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  Speaker 1: it needs it for everything that went down in that one.
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  Speaker 1: But let's let's start with that first semifinal game, Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State jumps out to a two nothing lead, Cornell comes
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  Speaker 1: back with two goals in the second period, and Joy
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  Speaker 1: Dunn takes over in the third period to get Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State a four to two victory over Cornell. That that
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  Speaker 1: seemed like a a let off the gas by Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State for a few minutes and Cornell took advantage, but
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  Speaker 1: the Buckeyes got it back pretty quickly. Is that how
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  Speaker 1: you saw it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think also a shaking I think Cornell
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  Speaker 2: was they didn't start how they wanted they you know,
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  Speaker 2: they came out in you know, five minutes. That game
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  Speaker 2: was almost out of hand for them. So I think
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  Speaker 2: coming out it was a matter of both Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: letting off a little in Cornell picking it up or
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  Speaker 2: at least finding themselves and finding their game a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more, you know, sort of after that first period
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  Speaker 2: it kind of like, ooh, this could be a long
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  Speaker 2: day for Cornell. So so kudos to them for tying
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  Speaker 2: that game back up and getting themselves back into it,
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  Speaker 2: because yeah, I don't know if it was the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they haven't really been there before the crowd, who knows,
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  Speaker 2: but it was definitely, you know, not the game they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to play. And even you know, coach Doug Dara
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  Speaker 2: afterwards said, you know, like that's that's not who we are,
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  Speaker 2: that's not what, you know, what we wanted in any way,
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  Speaker 2: shape or form. So yeah, I think there'll be a
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  Speaker 2: great learning experience for them. They're not losing too many
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  Speaker 2: players to graduation, so I think there's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: build on there for Cornell. You know, they're young, goaltending
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  Speaker 2: is sort of the solid base for them, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then the other I think was I think that
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  Speaker 2: experience is part of what I mean lett Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: to play as well as they did in the National
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  Speaker 2: Championship game.
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  Speaker 1: Right it felt like the worst possible start for Cornell,
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  Speaker 1: kind of Webster scoring about two and a half minutes
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  Speaker 1: into that game on Friday, because Cornell wanted to play
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  Speaker 1: a low scoring game. We know that, we know a
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  Speaker 1: low event game would have benefited them, but right away
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  Speaker 1: you're chasing, and then Brooke Disher makes it to nothing
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  Speaker 1: about four minutes later. Then the chases is really on
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  Speaker 1: for Cornell. But I give them credit for You'll have
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  Speaker 1: to tell me more about this, because I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: either the Cornell goals as they happened because I was
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  Speaker 1: outside for the red carpet entry for the second game.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, I forgot about to see. This is how
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  Speaker 2: Love was texting you, like you might want to stay outside.
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  Speaker 1: Were right on red the doors, and I hear the
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  Speaker 1: goal horn go, and I hear the goal Hordon go again,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm scrolling on social media to find out who's
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  Speaker 1: scoring here, and suddenly it's too too And that's the
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  Speaker 1: way it went to the third period, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: so for Cornell to pull that back the way they
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  Speaker 1: did two quick ones Lily Delianitas with one Caitlin Yelkolms.
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  Speaker 1: I'm apologizing Jock Ems. I believe, I'm not Jock Comes.
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  Speaker 1: I believe with the second one just over a minute apart.
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  Speaker 1: Really credit for the big redy getting that together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jockam's just got a turnover. It had nothing but
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  Speaker 2: wide ice in front of her. And kudos to her.
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  Speaker 2: I think I asked in the postgame, like, what are
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  Speaker 2: you saying to yourself? I just imagine when it's in
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  Speaker 2: such a big situation, you've just scored, You've got all
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  Speaker 2: the momentum. I mean, she had to have every emotion,
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  Speaker 2: every adrenaline, all of it just pumping, and you know
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  Speaker 2: when you've got you and open ice and like, this
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  Speaker 2: is a shot you have to make. You know, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about this more, I assume, But I just
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  Speaker 2: I kudos to her for handling that and just scoring
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  Speaker 2: and putting the pucket in a really crucial situation, because
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  Speaker 2: I just imagine that it's it's got to get really
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  Speaker 2: hard to stay focused and do like do all the things,
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  Speaker 2: little things you're supposed to do, which is you know
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  Speaker 2: why you practice them nine million times, so they come
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  Speaker 2: naturally in those types of situations. But I don't have
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  Speaker 2: the nerves to behave that well in that kind of situation,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think. So kudos to her for scoring that goal.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, they you know, they held on to
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  Speaker 2: that tie for a while. I thought like, this is
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  Speaker 2: going to become an interesting game. And then coming out
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  Speaker 2: of that thirty intermission, it was all Ohio State again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sixteen to seven shots in the third period for
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, and that was a pretty indicative representation of
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  Speaker 1: how it looked there. Joy Dunn, who scored the championship
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  Speaker 1: winning goal in the third period against Wisconsin last season.
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  Speaker 1: National Rookie of the Year last season comes through again
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  Speaker 1: with two goals in the third period about four minutes apart. Again,
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  Speaker 1: so ohose. They able to strike twice within a few
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  Speaker 1: minutes to get a lead and then get some insurance.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought they really sealed things off really well
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  Speaker 1: defensively after that, didn't. You know, their fur check is
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  Speaker 1: really good when they get going, and they were able
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  Speaker 1: to play the way they wanted to play there and
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  Speaker 1: get to the end. And you know, it doesn't always
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  Speaker 1: have to be the prettiest thing, but you get a win,
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  Speaker 1: you move on to the championship game, and that's a
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  Speaker 1: check you know you did your job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think this is a team you've seen,
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  Speaker 2: you know, recover really well over the course of the season.
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  Speaker 2: I think about that game against Minnesota or they came
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  Speaker 2: out and had was it six goals and the third
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  Speaker 2: This is something that I expect to see from them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't feel like they're really ever, really
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  Speaker 2: out of a game, and any time like momentum has swung,
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  Speaker 2: I know that they're capable of getting it back. And
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  Speaker 2: you just rarely see them score like one goal and
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  Speaker 2: be done sort of throughout the game, like there's when
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  Speaker 2: they score, it tends to come in bunches, like it's
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  Speaker 2: like they tilt the ice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So for two Ohio State in the
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  Speaker 1: first game on Freya's second game, Wisconsin and Minnesota the
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  Speaker 1: border battle, the sixth meeting of the season between the two.
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  Speaker 1: Wisconsin had won the first five, but it was the
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  Speaker 1: Gophers that got out to a lead on Friday, Peyton
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  Speaker 1: Hemp scoring about fourteen minutes in the first period. But
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  Speaker 1: the Badgers got that one back pretty quickly with a
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  Speaker 1: power play goal from Leila Edwards and it went one
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  Speaker 1: to one into the first intermission, and that's where Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: took it over into the second period, KK Harvey scoring
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  Speaker 1: a really nice goal there to give the Badgers a lead.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we really need to rewind a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: I guess to the first period.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you have skipped a whole bunch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And maybe that's where we should have started this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, because Abby Murphy gets gets a hold of
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  Speaker 1: KK Harvey with an elbow and after the you know,
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  Speaker 1: away from the play, after the puck left kind of situation.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing called on the ice I believe, or was there
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  Speaker 1: a call. I don't believe there was called.
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  Speaker 2: The rest didn't see it right stop, they didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: So there was nothing called on the ice because that's
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  Speaker 2: part of the reason that it was its stayed of major.
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  Speaker 2: I believe right they couldn't do more. And that was
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  Speaker 2: the explanation given we had we had. I was pause
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  Speaker 2: here to say we had a whole lot of things
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  Speaker 2: that made everybody look in the record book and nobody
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  Speaker 2: or in the rule book. And I'm not sure anybody
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  Speaker 2: ever looked in the right spot me except for you, Todd.
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  Speaker 2: But like we Todd went and asked about a rule
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  Speaker 2: of the championship game and they came back and gave
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  Speaker 2: us the wrong rule number, and then like talking about
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  Speaker 2: what was capable or what was possible in this call,
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  Speaker 2: it was like, well, you can't do this, you can't
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It just felt like it was a quiz on the
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  Speaker 2: NCAA rules and nobody paths.
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  Speaker 1: Part of the problem is that they're in the rule book.
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  Speaker 1: The part that's written about what you can do for
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  Speaker 1: video replay should really reference the rules themselves that you're
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  Speaker 1: looking to over the things you're looking at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're sort of written differently.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so there's a part and then there's the actual
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  Speaker 1: rule part, so there are two different sides there. But
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  Speaker 1: so the Badgers don't score on that five minute power
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  Speaker 1: play and that felt like a potential turning point there. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Badgers have the number one power play in the country,
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  Speaker 2: the Minnesota penalty kills not super high ranked and and
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  Speaker 2: at that point Badgers don't know if KK Harvey is
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  Speaker 2: coming back. I mean, I think we should emphasize, like,
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  Speaker 2: this is a play where like on the replay, when
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  Speaker 2: KK pushes the passes the puck away, like Abby Murphy's
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  Speaker 2: not yet in the screen, so she comes from from
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  Speaker 2: way off off screen and just absolutely levels KK. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: So that was, uh, that was the turning point. That
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  Speaker 2: was a huge talking point for for the semi final day.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we can, you know, let everybody take what
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  Speaker 2: they want from that, but it was it was just
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  Speaker 2: a huge play. It happened behind the refts. Nobody saw it.
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  Speaker 2: U UW had to call for a coach's challenge to
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  Speaker 2: even get the penalty the major penalty called.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I heard from people around Twin Cities on Saturday
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  Speaker 1: asking how was that not an ejection? And the ex
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  Speaker 1: play I got, you know, not directly from one of
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  Speaker 1: the referees officiating the game, but someone who has officiated
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  Speaker 1: a lot of games and supervised officials and said that
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  Speaker 1: the principal point of contact wasn't the head, It was
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  Speaker 1: a shoulder and then it rode up into the head.
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  Speaker 1: So that doesn't necessarily equate to an injection. And it
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  Speaker 1: being late and it being away from the play doesn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily factor in to an ejection. I mean, obviously in
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  Speaker 1: women's hockey there's no hitting, so anything there would have
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  Speaker 1: been a minor penalty, but it elevated the major with
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  Speaker 1: the indirect contact to the head. So that's why there
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  Speaker 1: was not necessarily you know, meeting the qualifications or the
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  Speaker 1: requirements for an ejection on that play. That's what I was, right.
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  Speaker 2: There's not really like level like there's not really targeting
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  Speaker 2: because all hits early. There aren't levels of hit penalties,
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  Speaker 2: right because hitting or no hitting, those are your options
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  Speaker 2: in women's hockey. But yeah, I mean, I think pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure that's a targeting penalty in the men's I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was not great. It was not a
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  Speaker 2: great look for Abby and then you know, of course
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  Speaker 2: later on in the game, Caroline Harvey hits her into
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  Speaker 2: the boards, and then we're reviewing that and like, arguably,
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  Speaker 2: like where do you figure out, Like is this as
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  Speaker 2: bad as the one we only had be a major before?
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  Speaker 2: It just ended up being referee semantics. It was not ideal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's never what you want in a
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  Speaker 1: game of this nature, a semi final game. You know,
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  Speaker 1: winner goes to the championship game. You don't want the
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  Speaker 1: referees playing too big of a role in it. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that that comes into their minds. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: when they're deciding is this a major or a major?
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  Speaker 1: An injection to Minnesota's leading scorer, you don't want.
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  Speaker 2: The coming five minutes into the game or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was early, right, So okay.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, so going backwards, Wisconsin doesn't score in the power play,
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota killed it. They get the momentum and they score first.
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  Speaker 2: So peyton hemps goal puts the Gopers on the board
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  Speaker 2: first with about five minutes left, and first, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: then they Wisconsin answers back on a shorthander after even here,
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  Speaker 2: if you got it, two minutes for hooking and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's how we ended the first Yes, right.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds cracked. I'm looking at the box score, you know,
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  Speaker 1: me too, leaving all these things that I'm missing. What
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  Speaker 1: am I missing out of all this? But so the
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  Speaker 1: Badgers do take a lead in the second period and
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  Speaker 1: it is Caroline Harvey with the goal that goes ahead,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure that had to feel really good for
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  Speaker 1: her to come back and score after I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: was off the ice for a few minutes. Now, there
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  Speaker 1: was she missed the first shift of the power play,
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  Speaker 1: but there was also a pretty good stretch of time
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  Speaker 1: where they were reviewing it. So she was down the
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  Speaker 1: tunnel in the locker room being looked at for I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, five five, six, seven minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, because I had people asking because Mark Johnson
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  Speaker 2: after the game talks a little bit about how she
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  Speaker 2: was disoriented coming back to the bench, and so I
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  Speaker 2: had people asking about like, well, did she go through calls?
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  Speaker 2: And because in theory she wasn't off the ice that long,
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  Speaker 2: but with the review and everything, there was more time
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  Speaker 2: past than people thought.
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  Speaker 1: Right. She told me after the game she was fine
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  Speaker 1: after she got a chance to reset. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: whatever that means, take take that for whatever you think
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  Speaker 1: it to mean, you know, having a chance to get
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  Speaker 1: away from things for a minute and you know, take
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  Speaker 1: a few breaths or did she need to fully I
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  Speaker 1: hope she went through, you know, a good lookover from
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  Speaker 1: the medical staff, because yeah, needed.
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  Speaker 2: There were two There were two different plays in this
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  Speaker 2: game where both teams I was, I was curious about
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  Speaker 2: the concussion protocol happening. Let's put it that way. I
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  Speaker 2: don't I know. I feel like in college sports in general,
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  Speaker 2: or in you know, high level sports in general, concussion
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  Speaker 2: protocol is always a little bit of a question. And
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  Speaker 2: in this game it was a little like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: did they I don't know. I hope they did.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously KK real fired up. I mean I
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  Speaker 2: talked about this with a lot of different people. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Abby Murphy's whole goal is to get under people's skin.
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  Speaker 2: You know, That's what she's doing. She wants to get
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  Speaker 2: in your head and interrupt your flow. Of all the
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  Speaker 2: people on the Badgers, I don't think KK is the
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  Speaker 2: player that you could do that too. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: think she gets lets that stuff get to her in
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  Speaker 2: the same way. There are players on the Badgers that
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  Speaker 2: you could that Abby could have rattled and KK isn't
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  Speaker 2: one of them, and then she turned around and scored
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  Speaker 2: that goal, and it felt like, well, yes, that is
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  Speaker 2: what's going to happen when you take off KK.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so later in the second period, Kirsten sim
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  Speaker 1: scores from Alacey Eden assists put a pin in that
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  Speaker 1: for later for a Wisconsin lead, but Josphine Buvang puts
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  Speaker 1: the Gophers back into it three two less than a
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  Speaker 1: minute later, so that those were like shift the next shift,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like, got this big boost. Minnesota took it
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  Speaker 1: right back and that was really important for them. But
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  Speaker 1: a really weird play in the in the last ten
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  Speaker 1: seconds fifteen seconds of the second period ends up with
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  Speaker 1: an injured Minnesota player La Hubert I believe was at
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  Speaker 1: one end of the ice, Abby Murphy staying there to
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  Speaker 1: get the refer to try and blow the whistle. I
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  Speaker 1: believe this was. This is all at the other end
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  Speaker 1: of the ice from us, mind you, so we only
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  Speaker 1: saw this from from a distance.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, when we say other than that, we were
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  Speaker 2: literally like back behind one of the goals, behind all
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  Speaker 2: of the stands, right like you are as far as
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  Speaker 2: possible from that far goal where it felt like all
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  Speaker 2: of the action happened this weekend. So when we say
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  Speaker 2: we didn't see it, and the Wi Fi wasn't good
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  Speaker 2: enough for any of us to be running the we
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: normally have a tablet up watching the stream, so we
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: really didn't get to see a lot of this stuff,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: particularly on Friday.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: But so at the other end, that rush comes along
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and it's basically four on two because they're playing four
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: and four at that point, and Casey O'Brien ends up
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: scoring with two seconds left to put Wisconsin up four
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: to just a massive goal at that point. To go
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: in with a two goaliad instead of a one goal
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: lead in the second intermission just felt like huge change
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: of that game.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Ella Huber was coming around from behind the goal.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: The defender started kind of pinching her in and she
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: got tripped up on the net or the post. It
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: was not great. Yeah, I mean even Brad Frost said,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: you know, like it was it wasn't a penalty. It wasn't.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he explicit he said, wasn't
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: a penalty, but he said, you know, she she ran
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: into the back of the the goal. So yeah, just
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: unfortunate and Abby, you know, staying back with her just
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: made a huge, huge advantage for the Badgers and it
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: felt like that was a massive turning point. And this
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: game was probably more half and half with with Gopher
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin fians, but it was. It was a lot of
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin fans too, and that really brought the crowd into
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: it and made it loud.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah it did. And then the Badgers finished off in
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the third period, Leila Edward's getting her second and third
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: goals of the game, last one into an empty net
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: for six to two wiscons and win. So the Badgers
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: finished six and zero against the Gophers this season, which
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: is pretty remarkable. That's you know, uh no one's ever
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: done that before when win six times against the Gophers.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: But it was just kind of another step in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: road for for the Badgers to get to that championship
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: game they they beat. I was looking back at it.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: In their playoffs, they they needed to beat Minnesota, Duluth,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Minnesota in the w c h A final face off,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: then they got Clarkson, then they got Minnesota. All those
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: teams are the then and Ohio State where they played
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: in the final. The only other teams that have won
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: NCAA championships. So their role is, uh, you know teams
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that you know have some some winning pedigree, not necessarily
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: all of them recently. You know, Duluth hasn't won in
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: quite a while. But uh, those are the teams that
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: have banners. And so for Wisconsin to go through all
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of them is you know, tells you it wasn't easy
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: No, and I mean this, you said, you know, no
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: teams gone six. No, I don't think the Badgers have
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: ever swept the Gophers, regardless sort of of how many
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: games it is. And didn't you say this, this is
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the win that gives them one above the Gophers in
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the all time Yeah. They never led the all time
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: series until this win.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: They've never led in the all time series between Wisconsin
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and Minnesota until after this game, right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And I mean it ended up again Wisconsin coming from behind.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: There was just there was a lot to this game
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: coming into it. There's so much history between these two teams.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: There's sort of even more so than Wisconsin Ohio State.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: There's no secrets here. Brad Frost and Mark Johnson have
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: been coaching each other against each other about as long
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: as some of these players have been alive, and the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Gophers were fired up. The Gophers were real fired up
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: by that loss in the WCCHA final, not because they lost,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: but because they felt like they were in that game.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: They lost in the final twenty four seconds, and so
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: it was just this man of confidence boos like, yes
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: we do belong here, Yes we can play with and
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: beat the top team in the country. They were going
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to come into this game with a very different attitude
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: than they had in you know, the four regular season games,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: and so it was it was a pretty big statement
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: from the Badgers to come out with that six to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: two win. I think.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, So that was Friday. We will get
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to the Wisconsin Ohio State Championship game a little later on,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: but next we'll talk about the Patty Kasmire Award. Stayed
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: with us on the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Todd Molluski and Nicole Hazy here with our season wrap
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: up edition, well really the Frozen four wrap up edition.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And part of that Frozen four weekend was the Saturday
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: presentation of the Patty Kasmire Award, done at the McNamara
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Alumni Center, a really nice building on the University of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Minnesota campus. We knew that award was going to Wisconsin
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: player because the Badgers had all three finalists. Casey O'Brien,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Lil Edwards, and KK Harvey were announced as the top
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: three vote getters, and throughout the show, you know, the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: build up was there too. You know, they're they're sitting
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: next to each other. We heard later that they were
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, making jokes with each other, and
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone wanted the others to win and who
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: is gonna do it and those kind of things, and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it ends up it's Casey O'Brien from Wisconsin, the twenty
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: twenty five Patty Casmier Award winner. If you missed our
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: interview with her, you can go back into the archives
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and check that out from Saturday on the either on
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: US e h O dot com, or uh wherever you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: get this podcast. I would be interested in your thoughts
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Nicole on I guess just just how that played out
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and how, uh you know, when you've got you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: three players from the same team, there's gonna be you
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: feel like there's going to be some like I'm disappointed.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I'm happy for my teammate, but I'm disappointed for myself.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: What did you feel about how that all played out
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, either they faked it really well or they
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: really believed that like it was okay. Whoever took it
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I think particularly, I mean, it's definitely one thing coming
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: from Casey, who has said the words we before me
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: probably nine million times this season. I mean, poor goal
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: from day one was the national championship. Everything else was superfluous,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and uh that's you know, part of why she came back.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: And I would just say that, like, I don't know
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: if it would have rung as true hearing you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I do believe that they all said that. No, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you when you're hearing it from someone's voice, but hearing
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: it from Casey, I absolutely believe she would have been
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: happy for either of the other two, particularly since they
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: had won their semi final game. At that point, they
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: were playing for a national championship. That's what she was
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: there for. This was a bonus, I think, you know
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: she I don't think anything she did was in order
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to try and whin a Petty Casmier award this season.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I think that all just kind of came naturally. The
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: other two, you know, have more time, there's that, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: they just all get a like this group was disgustingly
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: close in a way that was like never raghing false
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: or fake or was he Every team will talk about chemistry,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: every team will talk about how their friends, Every team
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: will talk about trust in the locker room. But I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: will say it did they told us that throughout the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: season without ever having to say those words. In the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: ways that they talked about each other in the post
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: game and the way that they were playing, you could
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: tell that that trust was there and that they really
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: believed that anybody on their team could have been the
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: big like make the big play. And so yeah, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: believe it from Casey for sure, which is not to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: say I don't believe it from the other two, but
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: being that she was the one that was up there,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: but she was right. I mean, those two were the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: first ones that she hugged. You know, they were teasing
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: her afterwards, pretending to be the paparazzi, you know. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I think while I mean, like I said, I wrote
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the over a fiftyear press, I wrote, you know, sort
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: of the case for each player, and like I wrote
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Kk's and I was like ready to give her the
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: award myself, even though like last year, I voted for
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Casey first, like, I think Casey is the correct winner,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: but like then I was breaking down all of the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: things that make KK so great, and I was like, oh,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: stopped myself into this one. And obviously Leila just continues
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: to do ridiculous things. Even in games where you're like, oh,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: like there was you know, a turnover, a stake order,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: she's still coming back and doing what she does, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you're just like, all right, well that's inevitable. But yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you do you agree it didn't It
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: didn't sound false to me, and I really believe that
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: they would have all been happy. I think they were
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: just really happy it was gonna be a badger.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, you never really know, you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: people you know can can say one thing and feel
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: something different. We see that all the time. But I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: do get the impression that, you know, regardless of how
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: much any of them, speaking specifically of Edwards and Harvey,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: how much either of them you know, wanted to win it,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they really were happy and knew that Casey O'Brien was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a deserving winner of that award just for how she's
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you know, been not only a really incredible scorer, you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: racking up points, but also in leading the team and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: putting that like you mentioned the wi before me out there,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: every time she's on the ice, when she's speaking up
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, those kind of things matter, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: those kind of things, you know, teammates notice, and I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: know there was a lot of a lot of happy
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: people that she got recognized with that award, considering you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: she she was up there last season, and you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: she she said she wasn't. You know, it wasn't something
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that really crushed her losing that award, but you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: she had to be disappointed in you know, not coming
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: away with it in twenty twenty four. But yeah, I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: think that it was the right choice. Ended up being
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the national leading scorer by well by the end of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: its sixteen points, which is not a small feat.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: One of the most assists in I mean, she's she's
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: top ten in NCAA history. And for people who haven't
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: been here a whole long time, there are records from
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the first tenish years of nc women talking that are
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: just never going to get touched, like the hundreds of
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: points and just you know, it was a couple teams
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: really dominating in one or two players on those teams
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: sort of scoring a whole team's worth of points. Yeah,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And so the fact that she is in like top
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: five in some of these categories now just really like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: drove home to me. She was doing something that, like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the game has changed so much since the last time
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: anybody did some of that stuff.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Smart enough to know how to do ERA adjustments. But
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I'd really be interested to know how that would work.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: What would like that it's readsheets in math, which absolutely
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: is your real house. So if you don't think so,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the rest of us are.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Out of it. I'm sure it. Give me done is
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: just not something I know how to do. Yet, Oh
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: give me, give me some time. I guess I was.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to say too, is that I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: hadn't thought about and also I think would just be
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: really hard to sort of write about. But I was
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: talking to Casey, I think, for when I wrote her
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Patty profile for the Pattycas website, and I was asking
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: her about things coming very easy to the team and
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: like how they're able to play free. And I think
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: an underrated thing that she did this year was keep
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: this team on track. There could have been a lot
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: of cockiness, There could have been a lot of ego.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: When things are coming that easy, it could be easy
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to sort of forget all your basics. And like, when
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I was asking her about that, with like sort of unprompted,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, it's so nice they're getting to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: do this. She's like, right, but we still need to
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: do it in the way that we're taught, Like we
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: still need to play badger hockey and like focus on
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the details. And if you can still do some of
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: that stuff above and beyond that, great, But I can
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: imagine being the presence in the room that's trying to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: keep everybody focused when things are going so well and
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: when it feels like you're on top of the world.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: It's not an easy task, especially for someone that is
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: like kind of a first time leader, not a naturally
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: very like super loud person. So I think looking back
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: at what how that team kept their composure this whole
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: season and didn't sort of get too big for their breitches,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I guess I think Casey deserves a lot of credit
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one thing, you know, the coach is saying
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: something you know and kind of pointing things out, but
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you hear that so much that I don't know, if
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you know it's not that they get tuned out, but
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: it means more when the when the players are saying
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: it themselves and when they're doing the the reinforcement or
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the redirecting or those kind of things that need to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: happen throughout US Sea. I mean, this is a long season.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: We know that it's it's you know, six months, it's uh,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you know, be more than that when you talk about uh,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: summer workouts and everything like that, it's a grind. And
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and to be able to to keep going through that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and and you know, have the success that Wisconsin did,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, only one loss going into the Frozen four.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: You know, it really speaks to how those those leaders
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and you know, uh Casey O'Brien and KK Harvey or
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: co captains this season for the Badgers. Uh, you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it speaks to how well they did in just keeping
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: keeping like you said, keeping that that room on message
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and keeping them kind of going doing the things they
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: need to do. Even when you know you're in a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: game that's you know, six nothing after two periods, you
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: don't you can't fall into the bad habits. That's always
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: been the thing Mark Johnson preaches that. You know, it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: as much as wallet.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Of those stories.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're getting there, and it's it's all about
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, even if you're everything's going well, don't let
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: bad habits creep in. Yeah, that's a that's a really
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: important thing that this team didn't do.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, both her and KK are more lead
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: by example type people, So the fact that they were
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the co captains, I think both of them had to
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: grow really personally and as people, uh this this year
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: to find the balance. And and they had those two
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and then Layla and Lacey as their associate or assistant
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: however you want to wearing the ash. That's for very
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: different personalities. But what they did is every one of
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: those personalities touched somebody in the room, so they were
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: meeting the players where they were and I think that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: is one of the reasons this team was was really good.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: You know, KK could talk about, you know, that first
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Olympic experience and it not going how she wanted to,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and then having coaches give her the confidence and all
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of the different experiences, and Lacey being you know, the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: ball of energy and the sort of comic relief when
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: it needs to be. But each of them has gone
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: through different stuff and so having that very diverse leadership
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: group I think made a big difference in terms of
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: being sort of able to individually give their teammates what
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: they needed when they needed it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: We'd mentioned Mark Johnson's press conferences.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: They were an adventure.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were entertaining. It was an adventure, long, winding,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: long and winding road. So he talked about golf, he
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: talked about fishing.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, get the fish in the boat is a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: markism from way back.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Right like, and that's not necessarily just his, but yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: That's right like, that's that's his way of saying, like,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you know, complete the task, You've done all the work
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: sort of thing. But we we got that into an
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: extended metaphor for four days this week, and even stood
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: up to show us the size of the fish after
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the National Championship game.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: There's some you know putting form and about you know, grip, And.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: The most annoying part is he always brought it back
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to a point that actually made sense.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: That's what it blew my mind. On Saturday, I didn't
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: think one of his stores was going anywhere other than
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I think that one was fishing, but I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: can't be sure.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I thought that one was into fishing into the hotel
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: room the.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Right the hotel rooms where he he said he didn't
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: have heat I think.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And apparently just stayed there and didn't tell anybody, Like Mark,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: you could tell somebody.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Went into where that also happened at Bimigie and Omigie
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: is where he loves to have Walleye because that's a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: a staple there and they have that for breakfast before
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the Friday game every year, I guess.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And then they were staying at the Graduate in Minneapolis,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: which has Walleye wallpaper. It's like repeating, friends, It's like
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the type of stuff you see in your nightmares. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: would just like to point out that I will I
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: will go with Mark on that because the repeating, like
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I've seen it in Penn State too, where it's the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Cats over and over again, Walleye is even more disturbing.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And from there it went into Sunday pregame. We show
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: up and the meal that they're serving is Walleye, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it was just like a what who's bugging this here?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: And who's reacting on the food based on what people
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: are saying in the trench?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, what's the point where someone asked Nady Muzzer
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: all if she'd had with the Walleye and Bubbidgee. I mean,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Mark was not the only crazy press conference, to be fair,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: he was just consistently I feel like all of the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: non like there's a lot of ops people in the room,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and I feel like all of them were very over
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Mark by the end of the weekend.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: It was funny. You know sometimes when Mark's when they
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: do this, they usually give an opening statement and then
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the student athletes talk and the students leave the in
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: between days the Saturday press conference, Kristen Sims and Ava
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: McNaughton had to sit there through some of the Marks
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and Kirstin couldn't stop laughing and Ava looked so done.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: So that was I mean, it was just one of
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: those like if Mark is so revered and he is
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: such a legend, and then then also like let me
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: tell you all this silly stuff about this man, like
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: what a privilege. It was both ridiculous and like, I know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell that story forever. So he also
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: after the National championship, I was when I was on
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the ice with my Cara and he came up to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: me and just started chatting, and I was like He's like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: how about that. Huh? Would you have had the goal
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to take that penalty shot? Like? He just was super
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: chatty and I was like, aren't you busy? So Mark
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Mark had a weekend. I don't know, he was just
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: having a good time.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Oh well, when you're at that position, you should should
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: be able to enjoy itself. Okay, that gets us through Saturday.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk about the Wisconsin versus
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Ohio State championship games. Stay with us on the podcast.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast, Todd the Least Game. Nicole
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Hasey with you to wrap things up this weekend. Our
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: our final part here is exclusively on the national championship game,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: because this is going to take some time.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Itself.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wisconsin and Ohio State for the third straight season.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin won it in Duluth in twenty twenty three, Ohio
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: State in Durham last season. I mean, so you had
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that set up, you had both teams that felt like they,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you know, could get this done. You know, Wisconsin had
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a chip on it so shoulder
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: all season from you know, feeling like they they should
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: have won that game last season and didn't. Ohio State
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: looking to defend that title and beat the only team
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: that you know, the team that had one loss all season,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: they're the ones that beat them.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: So they had their own chip because they felt like, well,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: we're the defending champions. We you know, we didn't get
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the respect for that. Were not number one. Nobody thinks
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: we're gonna win, So they had their own chip. It
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: was a very very interesting lead up, a lot of.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Build up into that. So teams that obviously know each
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: other really really well have played a lot over the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: last three seasons relevant and beyond that, you know, the
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: four times in the regular season of course that they play,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: but this one felt like it was gonna be a
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: really good battle. Last two seasons they were, they were tight,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: they were tense, they were one nothing games, both of them.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: And this one was tight and tense for a lot
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of different reasons. It started in the first period with
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: another shorthanded goal you mentioned, uh, the the one that
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Laila Edwards scored in Wisconsin's win over Minnesota. Well, Ohio
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: State got on the board first, with Joy Dunn making
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: an amazing route through.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Four work made them look like they were standing stick.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Players, you know, one kind of at the the defensive
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: blue line to win the neutral zone and then going
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: around KK Harvey in the in the offensive zone to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: score with a nice move around Ava McNaughton to put
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Ohiose State up one nothing, and that's a a key goal.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: But the Buckeyes didn't get to enjoy that lead at
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: all because Badger's slan the powerplay, Leila Edwards picks the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: puck out of out of the neutral zone, comes in
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and scores twelve seconds later, and so.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: The momentum swings there were unbelievable, right because it had
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: been a tense first couple of minutes. Wisconsin gets the
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: power play, much like we had said during the semi
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: final with Minnesota, Wisconsin number one power play. Ohio State's
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: penalty kill I think it's twenty fourth, Like it's it's
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: pretty low for such a top break team, and so
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: that was like, oh, here's this great opportunity for Wisconsin.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And from the first puck drop, Joy goes and scores,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, you know, things got spicy. And
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: then immediately like we're still typing that up and Layla
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: scores and again on the other end, so we're like, oh,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: what happened? I don't even know. So, yeah, that was
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, should have known the rest of
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the game, but like, yes, it was like, oh okay,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: so that's how it's gonna be.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that that carried on as a one
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to one game for about six minutes until Sloan Matthews
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: scored for Ohio State, give him the Buckeyes a two
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: to one lead that they took into the first intermission,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and they came out and I guess we should we
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: should get into the fact that Wisconsin wasn't Wisconsin helped
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: him out on some on on on that Sloane Matthews goal,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: that was a kind of a careless play by Leila
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Edwards in the neutral zone and Sloan picked the puck
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: off or stick, went in on two on one and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and fired that one home. And that was a you know, Wisconsin,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I guess from the Ohio State side of it, they
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: are able to make something out of nothing quickly with
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: their speed. A lot of players are able to turn
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: things that would normally just be maybe a two on
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: two rush into a two on one rush. And that's
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: what they're able to do a couple of times on Sunday.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you say Wisconsin helped them, but I
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: think you could even go back and say, like Ohio
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: State was playing such that they forced they were forcing this.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I mean I would I mean, we're still doing the recap,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: but you know, spoiler alert if you don't know what's happening,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: But I would argue Ohio State played what like fifty
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: nine minutes of really great hockey. I mean, they dominated
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: that game. They had Wisconsin on their heels. They still
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: everything Wisconsin wanted to do. Ohio State stop them from
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: doing like they they couldn't gain any momentum. They were
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Ohio State owned the neutral zone, so like
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: you know, on this particularly, Yeah, it was like a
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: bad turnover from Laila, but it was that same pressure
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: and taking away time in space and all the things
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: that Ohio Stated did all game and this was just
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the first of one. And then also it was just
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a beautiful This game was all about Snipe city man,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I all around. I mean, come back to this at
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the wrap up, but like goodness, this weekend was a
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: showcase of what makes women's college hockey so great, not
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: just like even And I was saying that before we
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: got to the ridiculous ending that we had I mean
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: there was just some gorgeous shots and goals and puck
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: handling and finess and the skating of joy on that
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: shorthand and all the things that I think people need
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to know that this is what women's college hockey looks like.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: That's what we saw, and so it was so awesome
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: to see that on display in this game. But yeah,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that goal wasn't like because Wisconsin, I mean, Wisconsin turned
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: it over because Ohio State forced it that at Wisconsin
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: was was Yeah, it was struggling, and that was just
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: sort of the first big clue was how easy it
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: was for Sloan to pick off that puck, take it
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: pretty much right off Layla's stick, and go right in
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: to net.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And so who took to tune one lead into the intermission,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and they added to it right off the bat and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the second period a kind of Webster making a really
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: nice play to force another turnover right off the opening
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: face off, carrying the puck around the net, getting kind
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: of a shot end goal that bounces back out, and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Emma Petchial just rip that one from the left circle
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: into the top corner to put Ohiose State up three
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to one. And that's a you know, a stamp on
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to start a period strong,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you can do it something like that and take a
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: two goal lead against a team that's you know, hasn't
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: lost in twenty six games. I mean, that's a that's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a pretty good position to put yourself in. Up three
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to one at that point.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And it was one of those where like, okay,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: then right after not right after that, but shortly later
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin gets one back, but then they don't like they're
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: not scoring, they have plenty of time entire third period,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of the second and and like that that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: one goal different was just an absolutely huge part of
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: this game. And so yeah, that that was a bit
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of a heartbreaker. It's like, if you're a Wisconsin fan
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: and they go in down to one, you want to
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: see them like, Okay, they've Ohio States making them look bad.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: They're stopping everything, like Wisconsin needs to adjust and they
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: come out and score ten seconds in. That's just like,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: oh goodness, like this could get ugly right right.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin did get one back about five minutes later, when
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: when Kirsten Simms fed KK Harvey for a nice shot
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: on the right side kind of in the slot and
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: that got it the three too, but like you're saying it,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: it stayed three two, and it felt like Wisconsin was,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you know, trying all sorts of different things, different line comboys.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I mean I started writing down the trios that were
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: out there, and I seven, yeah, that over the course
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: of it, and they were not ones that I remembered
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: seeing over the course.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Of you know, right, Mark Mark mixes up his lines.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: That's you know, I feel like a line sheets of
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: mere suggestion from from Mark Johnson. But even even this
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: was like we can tell you that Mark changes stuff
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: a lot, and this was this is extreme even for him.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really thought Ohio State did a great
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: job of you know, with a the one player deep
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: four check. You know, Wisconsin was not able to get
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: out of their defense zone easel. There were no passing lanes,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: there were no skating lanes. It was it was an
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: impressive job by the Buckeyes of of clogging that up.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: And even if they did get up to the line,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: then the neutral zone was was a challenge. It was
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of dump and chase by Wisconsin,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: which is not something you see a ton of because
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: they're usually able to carry the bucket into the zone
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and set.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Up no And it was an effective sort of time
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: waster for Ohio State too, right, putting that strong fore
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: check on Wisconsin was taking you know, minutes to get
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: out of the zone or to even get out from
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: behind their own net, and really like even attempt to
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: break out. It just it. They were absolutely just smothering
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin and it I mean, I think I said this
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to start when I recaps, but it's unfortunate for Ohio State. Now.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: The maybe like counter to that is the problem is,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: particularly as we got into the third, is that Ohio
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: State was not necessarily pushing on offense. They were pretty
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: content to keep with their for check, but they weren't
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: really pushing for a goal, or at least it didn't
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: feel that way. And then the lader it got and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: they were kind of packing on even more. In front
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: of that, I feel like when the game goes into overtime,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: they had a hard time flipping back to be the offensive,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: like to do what they had been doing to start,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: because of what they had done in the second and third.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: But I'm getting ahead of myself.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so all of those things carry into the
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: third period and Wisconsin's trying all these things. Ohio State,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it's doing a great job of fending it off. And
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: then the Buckeyes get called too many players on the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: ice with a minute fifty left, and that's a you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: you're putting the best power play in the country out there.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: And and then with the eventually with a McNaughton pulled
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: for a six out four and that which.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: They didn't do until the power ever play happened with
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: a minute fifty left in regulation. That's when the call
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: was made, and it was under a minute when Mark
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: finally pulled a b I believe.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I had think I remember Adam minute on tan or something.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: One was five something around there. But you're right, yeah,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: he did not do that right away. He waited to
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: make sure there was gonna be some possession there and uh,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: not a buck put coming down, you know, for you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: they can shoot and not get called for icing since
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: they're shorthanded. So yeah, but I.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Still felt like, well, I can't believe he let it
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: go this long like they did it. They had possession
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and he still didn't paller.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, Mark Johnson is old school in a lot
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: of ways, right, And so yeah, the tendency these days
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: is to pull the goalie earlier and get more chances
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he would know, like he would say, they're
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the whatever penalty hill were the number one power play,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I dressed my players, YadA YadA, like you know how
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: that conversation would have gone, right.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So eventually you know, the puckets are on Amanda Teeley
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: for Oose. It makes a couple of incredible saals on that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I remember one on Leila Edwards. I think she didn't
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: have her stick at that point and she still got
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a blocker on on at her at the her right
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: post or her right right.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: At this point, it is like six five badgers, six
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: badgers crowded around the net just sort of like it's
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: just nothing but people in sticks within five to eight
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: feet of the net front, like it's just chaos.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Right, And so in all of that there, the puck
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: slides through the crease and Maddy Wheeler for the Buckeyes
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: is down on her stomach in the crease and has,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: at at one point we see the overhead angle of it,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: has her hand over the puck and is trying to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: slide it out kind of like you would with a
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: like an air an air hockey, Yeah, slide forward with it, right, but.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: She kind of pulls it to her side and underneath her.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it doesn't get called on the ice.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Eventually there's a save made, puck is held with eighteen
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: point nine seconds left on.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: The clock, and you clocked this right away.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Layla goes, Layla Edwards goes. I think she said something
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to a referee, but then goes right to the bench
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: and is like waving to get the coach's attention and putting,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: like making a motion of a hand on the puck.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously I can't hear what she's saying, but
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: it's pretty clear she was saying that someone covered the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: puck or someone had a hand on the puck in
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the crease, which is a penalty shot. And so the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Badgers challenged that based off of that. I don't think
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: they got the word from upstairs from their video replay
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: people they change.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm pretty sure Marked did that just based on
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Layla I mentioned. I talked to him on the ice
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: for a second. The first thing I said is Layla
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: told you to challenge that, and he said, yeah, we
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: didn't have it, But Layla, Layla said we had to
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and you know, at eighteen point nine seconds left, what
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: do you have to lose?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Nothing else? That's the time out even longer than a
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: timeout probably, so you get a little time to let
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: your players, you know, rest up and get focused for
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: But wait, so wait there, how do you feel about this?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I mean ninety two million discussions on the internet. Is
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: that a penalty? Did she cover the puck? Did she
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: gather it the puck? Doesn't or the rules don't say
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: closed hand anymore? So, like what is your interpretation of
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: that play and whether or not that penalty should have
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: been called?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: As I understand it, any hand over the puck in
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: the crease should be called as a penalty shot. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: so if you look at it that way, that that
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: was pretty clear. It doesn't have to be necessarily held
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to the ice or in a freezing motion like a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: goalie would you know, with with her glove over the puck,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: any hand over the puck, Now you could kind of
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: fist bump the puck out, and I believe that's completely legal.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: You could do it that way. But anytime your glove
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: is over the puck as a player, as a skater
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: in the crease that as I understand the rule, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I can't say I've ever officiated in a game, so
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, but I do read the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: rule book, and then as far as I know that
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: having the glove over the puck is what triggers that
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: being a penalty shot, and that we saw that as
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: we remember now a little bit later, we saw that
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago in Madison with between Wisconsin
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and Ohio State in overtime of a game, that same
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: call was made.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's one of those where like people were
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: finding old record or old I keep saying record book,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: old rule books, like well it says you have to
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: have a closed hand. That's not what it says, just
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: a few different things. And I also had someone say
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: that it wasn't for that she got a penalty shot,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Like that's how the rule is written. If this is
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: called that's a penalty shot, there's no interpretation on that.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: It couldn't have been a minor penalty. Like mark, the
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: coaches can say they would rather take a penalty, but
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: like you're the coach, the team that earns that penalty
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: can choose a penalty shot or.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: A power play that happened, yes, and it's complete this
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: different situation. I think that team is trying to protect
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the lead. Yeah right, this would rather have the two
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: minutes where they could, you know, but yeah, I.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Had people questioning why why did she get a penalty shot?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Why would they choose to? Like, why would the refs
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: let them do that? Like that is all the rules written,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: there's no there's no changing that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: So after the review, the referees do say that, yes,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that's a penalty shot. And so we get this a
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: little extra delay because there's some discussion going on the bench.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I think Nadine Mazral has the referees over there and
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: it's talking with them, and we looked down at the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin bench and you know, later we saw this on TV.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Later we didn't see this happened directly, but Mark Johnson
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: says who wants it? He says who wants it? Twice?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: He says it twice?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you see in the camera frame Kirsten
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Simms right arm go up. And before that, from what
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: we know now, as soon as there was said it
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: was going to be a penalty shot, everyone on the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: bench was kind of pointing at simms.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this whole thing is really interesting because it's
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: turned into Laura at this point, right, And like, I mean,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: good for Kirsten because she she was the hero. She
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: did all of the things in this game, but also
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: in the Boast game press conference, you asked her like
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: coach says, you want it, your hand goes up, what's
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: going through your mind? And the first thing Kristen says was,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I can't really say it was like my initially my choice, right,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: I mean it was it was like the most non
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: like I didn't don't. It's so funny because you have
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: to have the confidence to do that. And Mark Johnson
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: goes on to talk about this a bunch about how
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: the player doing this has to be confident, and he's
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: saying all that after Kirsten, like first question of the
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: press conference goes, I can't say it was like initially
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: my choice, and then she said that everybody on the
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: bench is saying simsimsims, you do it, and she goes
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: so I was like, you know what, whatever, I was like,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: coach is gonna need to see my hand to go
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: up for me to actually go. So I guess after
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: everyone just really instilled confidence with me, but it is
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: like the most twenty something year old answer to like
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: this whole situation. And so there's also just something really
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: funny of the lore now of like he asked and
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: her hand went up, but actually she was was it
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: initially my choice? I don't know. The whole thing is
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: just like delightful and just could not have happened, Like
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: you couldn't have written this up.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: No, there's in all the things that have happened at
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the end of games that I've seen that you know,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you and I have seen a lot of games over
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the years. I can't ever remember anything this unusual happening
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: in the last minute of a game of this magnitude.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: No, I'm pretty sure if you submitted that the Hollywood
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: split script, they tell you it was too cliche and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: too unbelievable. Like the whole thing, and you made a
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: good point in the stadium after the game. The production
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: value of this, the way that ESPN showed this, the
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: fact that we were in Ritter that has set up
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: for this, like the fact that we had that camera
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: angle to see Mark saying that to get those real
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: like all the cameras at Ritter are above the benches,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: like in a regular broadcast of a regular season game,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't have seen any of that, so I just
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: kind of want to. We have complained a lot about
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: broadcasts and various different things, So like, kudos for that
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: because the reaction shots that who Wants It moment, all
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: of that happened because of the production that was put
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: on on Sunday.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they nailed that one. I haven't had a chance
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: to go back and watch the full game yet, but
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the pieces that I've seen and obviously used on social
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: media and everything have been really well done. And so yeah,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: definitely credit to ESPN and the and the crew there
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: for getting that one right. They met the moment. I mean,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: that's really all you can hope to do in those
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: situations is that you have a moment like that and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: that you're able to come through with it. And it
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: looked like that they they definitely did on that one.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: So back to the ice, who Wants It? Hand goes up,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Everybody on the bench is hyping her up. She has
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: a moment with Casey O'Brien where Casey really hypes her up,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: and those two I mean in Casey's Patty accepted, she feet,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: she said me and Sims share a brain. Those two
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: are are very close. They you know, have elevated each
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: other's game, and in the middle of the chaos of
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: what's happening right there, they like kind of share a
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: quiet moment. And afterwards sim said, you know, Casey just
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: really gassed her up and like made her prepared to do.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: That, and then I remember it being like really eerily quiet,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I mean as she takes the puck. Yeah, I don't
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: We should say, like, you guys, there was a single
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: section in Ritter that was Ohio state, A single section
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: that is it that was a ninety plus percent Wisconsin crowd.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Gopher fans sold their tickets and I mean that was
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: it was loudly Wisconsin fans, and so you know it
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: is it's under twenty seconds life. The game is like this,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: This is this team that people have felt were like
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: destined to be in this point. They're down by a goal,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Like you can can just need to like set this
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: scene of what it's like to be in this arena,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: in this moment when like they are handed this opportunity.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that makes it sound like it was
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: not correct. It was the right call, even maybe Musrol
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: said it was the right call for that handcovering the
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: puck in her post game. So anyway they're in the
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: this is just like we all had our stories written
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: for the game to be over in eighteen seconds going
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: the other direction, and so the tension in that room
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: was was a lot.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: So rewind a couple seasons back in February of twenty
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: twenty three, the I mentioned this earlier. There was a
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: penalty shot in overtime of a Wisconsin o'house say game
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: at Lebon Arena regular season game. So obviously not the
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: stakes that we were talking about here, but same situation
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: of a player covering the puck in the crease, so
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: anyone can be chosen to take that shot, and at
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that point it's freshman Kirsten Sims who goes out there
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: to try and win that game, and she goes on
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: a path, she takes the puck, she kind of does
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: an arc to the right as you see almost all
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the way to the boards, kind of around wide. Yeah,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: so the right hand circle comes in the net and
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: starts with the shot fakes and the forward forehand backhand.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: So she's doing the exact same thing. On Sunday, we
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: went back and watched and kind of compared the two shots.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, did you say that it's Telly
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: a net for this one two years ago as well?
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Its Teey two years ago. Correct, So same same players
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: on both ends. And uh, it's like four or five
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: touches back and forth, forehand, backhand, and in twenty twenty three, Uh,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Sims finishes on the backhand and goes up high and
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: scores for the Badgers to win that game. So as
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: you're looking at it with that in mind, what she
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: does on is she kind of fakes that backhand again
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: and it looks like Teeley bites on it, probably remembering
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: that this is what she did a couple of years ago.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: We've got this institutional knowledge here. But Sims brings it
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: back to forehand and then she's got the entire she's
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: got the puck around Teely's left leg, and she's got
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the net to wrap it into it. And it's just if
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: you think about all everything that's wrapped up into that,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: beyond the fact that she you know, was either volunteer,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: either she volunteered or to be able to make a
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: move like that on bad ice twice now, So you know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: in overtime, the ice is bad. At the end of
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: the third period, the ice is pretty bad, even though
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: they get shovels out at the TV timeouts and and
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: take care of that that part of the ice, that
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: pucking bounce, that puck can go on edge, that puck
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: can do a lot of things you don't want it
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: And she even just back to the I mean, outdoor
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: ice is different, but the shootout frozen confines like every
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: one of the Badger's Olympics, like couldn't control a puck.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: So again, same goalie, same team you're against, Like you
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: can't help have that in your head and think about
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: like how poorly that penalty shot, those penalty shots went,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: like they're the context of what's happening here is layers.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so, but it's a goal and so it's.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Three ice in her veins.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I mean, you think about and this
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: play has gotten a lot of traction on on social
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: media and throughout the sports world for uh, for good reason.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, think about everything that's wrapped up into that.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: And she goes out and and buries that shot and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't just bury a shot. She makes the moves, keeps
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: control of the puck and scores. And my first thought
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: was back to the twenty eighteen Olympics. I know it's
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: you said, it's not exactly the same move, but just
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the back and forth left the right, left the right
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: finish with the goalie pulled.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: The goalie out. Yeah, it looked a lot like the
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: the Lambou. Oops, I did it.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Again, correct? So then it's it's three to three and
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: we're headed overtime and the last nineteen seconds come, well,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: let's put this on the power play.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Put a pin on that for a second. After the game,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Nadie Muzral agreed that it was a penalty for covering
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: the puck. She had considered calling her challenge to say
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: that Simms had moved the puck backwards, which you are
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: not allowed to do. Again, we're getting into some serious
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: semantics of NCAA rules.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Here, right. The NCAA rule, as I believe, it's the
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: same in the NHL. I don't know if the wording
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: is exactly the same, but the puck has to be
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: moving toward the goal at all times, so there's some
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: question there of Okay, so if you decide to pull
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: it back to get it on your stick to flip
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: it up. Does that negate a shot or is so
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I think the there's some leeway brought into that where
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: really what they're trying to avoid is the and this
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: is spelled out in the rule you can't do this
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: spinerama goal where you stop and turn and bring the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: puck around you. That would be what they're trying to avoid.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: So the way it's written, I mean, that's a real
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: gray area of what's legal and what's not in terms
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: of it has.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: To be super open to interpretation. And I would imagine
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: so somebody asked me specifically about this, and I'm like, friends,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of penalty shots, like we
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: just we don't have a ton of them. I don't
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: watch a ton of the NHL or anything, so like
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: in terms of I mean, isn't the puck always going
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: to come back a little like you're that momentum of
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: a shot? And so I don't know the semantics or
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: like the what the standard is to be allowed in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: this situation. I am absolutely not the person that should
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: be talking about this one because I just don't underste
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: or I don't have the knowledge of seeing a ton
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: of other penalty shots to know sort of like what
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: normally is allowed in terms of how moving side to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: side and if it goes back and forth. Nadine said
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: that they thought that it had gone backwards, but they
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: didn't their video people didn't feel like they had strong
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: enough video evidence for it. And had Nadine lost the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: challenge there? Okay, So if she challenges it and she wins,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the goal comes off the board. If the shot there's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: no retry, that's it. So then she still But if
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: she loses, she has already used her time out, so
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: then it becomes a minor pedalty, meaning that she has
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: two players in the box, right, and then Wisconsin would
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: have also had their goalie pull, So then you are
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: talking six on three with twenty seconds left.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Well, if she would have lost the challenge, the goal
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: would have stayed, so wouldn't have it would have been
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: three three?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: It was they would have, but they would have been
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: it would have been a five on three power play. Sorry,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: so many things happening.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Right, It's so tough to keep track of all this.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: But and so she didn't deem it worth taking that chance.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: That would have been a huge risk at that point. Yeah,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: and they decided against it, and it's you know, you've
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: you have to to kind of play your your gut
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: at that point because.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Well, sure in twenty right now, how we know it
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: turned out, but her team had dominated this game. Like,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think if I'm Ohio State in that situation
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: that I'm too scared of going into overtime and having
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: a tie game because I've watched what my team's done
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: for fifty some minutes. And yeah, again, it's just the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: the zealousness of that too many player penalty, like somebody
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: just got really excited and got over the boards and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: it wasn't really close, you know, and then the covering,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: like it's just really unfortunate after the game that Ohio
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: State had played, that just you know, a couple of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: small things made this huge difference. And then at that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: point when you come out for overtime, it's a brand
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: new game in Wisconsin's got all this excitement and momentum,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: and Ohio State had said I can't remember which player
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: said it, but like they tried to come out each
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: period like it was zero zero, Like their mentality every
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: time was that either they were down or they were
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: they were tied, like to play each game or as
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: particularly after letting I think Cornell in in that second
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: period of the semi final. But yeah, it was it
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: was a whole new ball game when these teams came
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: out for overtime. And as I mentioned before, I think
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: there was just something about the fact that Ohio State
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: hadn't really actively been playing offense for twenty ish minutes
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: if not more, of this game.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there was some of that. I mean,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: they did have the Bakays did have a chance in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the first minute of overtime, the pucking.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Right, they had the first push and that one shot and.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: That was that was kind of yeah. But so then
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: we get about three minutes in, uh, Lacey Eden gets
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the pucket in the neutral zone for the Badgers, comes
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: up the right side, gets a shot on that that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Teeley kicks out with the right pad, but that goes
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: almost directly to Kirsten Simms uh coming down and that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: on the left side and she it's not an immedia
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: thing like she she got it onto the right part
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: of her stick to be able to shoot it, but.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: She had joy donees there and you know, interrupts it
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: a little and Kirsten does have to handle it, I'd agree.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: But the thing about what I couldn't stop thinking about
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: is that, you know, what that goal is exactly what
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin has done all year and what had stopped them
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: from doing for for sixty minutes. It was the fast rush,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: It was you know, the second person being able to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: collect that rebound. It was leaving even leaving up that rebound.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Teeley does tend to give up more rebounds, but Ohio
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: State have been really great about clearing out in front
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: of her. So just everything about that goal is is
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: what Wisconsin wanted to do and what hadn't been able
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: to do all game.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and sims Bury is it for the overtime winner.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: The building of erups like as you mentioned it, it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: was like ninety percent Wisconsin fans in there, which was
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: you know, we were I think I mentioned you at
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: some point that you know, if you've there's been a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: lot of people that have wondered, could there ever be
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: a frozen four or in Madison? And if you want
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to know what it would feel like, that was it.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean there won't be one at allab
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: and it doesn't have enough seats, let's put it there.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and this is as close as it is.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: It Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean I've been in
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: some some really heavily tilted neutral site quote unquote neutral
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: side games, more of them on the men's side. I'm
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: thinking about the two thousand and six National championship game
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: between Milwaukee, Boston College and Milwaukee. I'm thinking about the
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: two thousand and two championship game between Minnesota and Maine
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: in Saint Paul and the home team winning both of
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: those games, and Minnesota won that two thousand and two
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: game in overtime, and it felt like like those are
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: the memories that came back. Wisconsin one and six on
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: the men's side two to one, but had to you know,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: fight off a last second the post by Boston College
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, Minnesota one in overtime, and
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I just remember though, the levels of noise in those
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: buildings at that point. That's what came to mind for me. Uh,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: at ridder on Sundays, and you know the ridder, the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: roof is a lot lower and so that noise.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: The windows, Yeah, it just really holds that noise.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: There, right, And and that to me was you know,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: one of those just deafening moments that you'll remember of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: of just you know, when a when a fan base
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  Speaker 1: lets loose, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, after the after the penalty shot, and then at
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: the way and both I will say too when honestly
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  Speaker 2: one of the loudest moments is when the teams came
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  Speaker 2: out from warm ups. Yeah, I had I had filled
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: goosebumps a couple times this weekend, and I like want
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: to be clear that this wasn't just because it was
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin fans, like, this was the coolest college hockey environment,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: college women's hockey environment I've ever been in. What Sunday
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: reminded me of was the gold medal game in Utica
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  Speaker 2: that also went to overtime because of a too many
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: player penalty, too many players person sims. So there was
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of parallel there, but just the
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  Speaker 2: the because that in Utica you had some Canada fans,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: but a lot of US fans went to It was
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: just everything and it had I can't believe I've gotten
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  Speaker 2: to be I would have told you that's the best
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: game I've ever seen in person, and now I'm wondering
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: if this replaced it, particularly because that was a silver
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  Speaker 2: metal loss. And so yeah, I don't know, but the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: fact that I got to see those two games in
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  Speaker 2: less than a year in person is I'm a really
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: lucky person. Let's just put it that way. But the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: the joy of people watching women's college hockey at the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: absolute highest level of the game, living up to a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: bunch of the hype to watch the wider sports world
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: clue into this game when Sims hit that penalty shot, Like,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: there was other things happening on my social media feeds
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: until that happened, and then this is all anybody was
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: talking about. It just it was such a cool day
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: for women's college hockey. Friends, Hey, women's college hockey. This
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: was really I don't know that I'll ever forget that
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: sort of regardless of outcome, Like I had all those
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: moments and those thoughts before we got to this cuckoo,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: bonkers ending. So yeah, I just I wish, I hope
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  Speaker 2: that we get this in the future in other locations,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not just when it's Minnesota and and local
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  Speaker 2: teams are playing. This is this is what it should
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: be like at this level, and uh it was. It
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: was a really cool thing to be in the building.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: I only regret that I didn't get to enjoy it
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: from all like things kept happening in bunches in these games,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: and so it was like, oh that happened, Oh that happened.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know that I remember the cheer from
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: the Badgers winning because I immediately put my head down
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: and started typing. I much more remember the cheer from
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: when they were warming up. It's just it's hard to
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: to have all that happening at once, because, like I said,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: we'd all had our stories written a different way. So uh, yeah,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: there was.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: There was.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: It necessitated a lot of work. I didn't get down
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: on the ice until much much later after turning in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: some some prolem stories. I do want to mention I
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: wanted to say it before. I think maybe the thing
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: that isn't going to come out of talking about this
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: with Kirsten Sims is the the assists she had on
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: KK Harvey's goal in this game was a bunch of
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: stick handling. She she pulled the puck back, she got
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: around a defender, she's falling over to feed that to KK.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Then obviously all the touches and the really pretty move
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: on the penalty shot, and then again the touch and
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: the controlling the puck that it's not like the rebound
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: came right to her and she just had to put
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: it back into the net. There was like a bit
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: more to it than that. And so just Curston sims masterclass.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: We know how good she is with puck handling, but
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: goodness was it on display in all the smallest ways
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: when she was also doing some pretty major stuff.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to point out that, you know, you
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: mentioned that. I think that the penalty shot kind of
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: brought some more attention than that game at that point.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: And I would imagine a lot of people, you know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: either clicked down in that game or turned to turn
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: the channel to it once they saw that. And so
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: that there's a NCAA championship game going to overtime, you know,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: next goal wins the title. And we saw ESPN reported
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: that their viewership was up twenty two percent over last
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: season's championship game. Now they they don't publicize what those
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: actual numbers are, and I know that's still on the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: small side.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Well, you put it on in ESPN U. And it's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: also like one of the busiest sports weekends.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Of the right. You're also going on this men's basketball,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: women's basketball, You've got co Race, auto racing going on,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: You've got all these things happening on a Sunday afternoon,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: and but for that to get even the boost that
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: it did.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: It felt like total saturation. Sure like it released containment containment.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: The same two teams as it was last year, So
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good control there on on you know,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: fan bases. But I feel like that was a really
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: important step to be made. And you know, the unfortunate
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: part is that now it's six months again before we
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: we get any more games to try and build off
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: of that, and you know, twelve months before we get
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: a game of that magnitude on ESPN you to have
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: to see how how things look. But I mean, it's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: just a an incredible weekend of results of performance, like
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: you talked about, of skill on the ice. I don't
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: know about you, but I ran into a lot of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: people that our listeners to our podcasts.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: So everybody was so nice. Thank you. I'm so awkward
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: when you do that, and I don't know what to see,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: but thank you. But we do. I promise you. I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: go home and tell my husband all about every one
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: of you. It's really nice, we really do. I just
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: it's it's a very strange situation. To be in.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know, thank you for listening all
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: this season. We've we've got more episodes coming over the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. I just want to highlight. Next
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: week we're going to be back talking kind of a
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: more thirty thousand foot view of the season as a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: whole and looking at some of the awards that US
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: ECHO will come out with. Well, let's be honest, Nicole
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: will come out with the next week. She does all
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the work on these, including all the writing, and.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: She's taking a couple of day break before a.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Well deserved break. Yes, and so we'll talk about those
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: next week, and then the following week or the week
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Athro I believe it's the following week we'll talk about
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: the World Championship in Chechia, which is happening in.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Tons of collegiate and players and collegiate commitments. Yeah, I
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm not saying well, but I think, like
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: I think people know or understand from me that, like
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: my goal is always to get more people paying attention
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: to this game. That I just I love the players,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: I love the dynamic, I love everything about this and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: so you know it's why I write intro posts. It's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: why every week victory press. I'm trying to like sort
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: of hand on a planner. Here are the lakes, here's
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: how to watch, here's why these games are going to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: be exciting. So to be doing that over and over
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: and have been doing that for years and wanting to
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: get these players the attention I think they deserve. To
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: see that come to a little bit of fruition this weekend.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: I don't, by any means think we have reached any
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: sort of like Plateau or Naedy or anything like that.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: But to see this style of hockey go out and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: show everybody what they're capable of and see it reach
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: a wide group was just like it was the happy.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: It was like the most joy I could have to watch.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: And like I said, that was even before I mean
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: I think I said in the first period, like I
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: want I want a video of this game in my
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: pocket to show to people when they say women's hockey
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: is no or women's college hockey is no good either one.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: It was just Ohio State was perfect. I mean, I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: know Nadine wouldn't agree with that. I'm sure there's plenty
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: of things you want to work, but they executed their
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: game plan and it was a fast game and it
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: was so pretty and both the semi final games had
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: it too, and so I just really just want to
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: stress that, like I hope people understood and appreciated and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm so geeked out that this was just
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: an amazing showcase of this sport and what makes it great,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: and not just because of a mere collanding of a game.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: So I hope that, like you said, it's it stinks
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit that this is the end. And now
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: we've got quite a bit of downtime, but again, never enough,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: because it's you know, mid March, we'll be I'll be
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: working on our previews when by the time we get
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: to August. So yeah, but I just we appreciate you
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: all so much for coming on the ride with us
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: for this season and listening and giving us questions and stuff,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: and it was very cool to meet so many people.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's really hard when we're removed in the breath box,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: but we appreciate you all so much, and I hope
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: that you all enjoyed this as much as I did.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I can't say any better than that. So I think
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna wrap this up this week. Thanks
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: everyone again, check back with us next week for the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: wrap up, and make sure you can go and read
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: everything at usc h O dot com and Victory Press
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: that Nicole has put together over the last week. A
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: lot of great stuff, even if you were there, stuff too. Yeah,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: well you know I've got stuff there too. Thanks a bunch.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed everything that we had from the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Frozen four. Let's do it again next season in state college.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: What do you say, I already was looking at hotels
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: so planing on it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably should this far in advance, given what
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: that happened last time.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: That's only a little bit of a joke, friend, exactly.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it for us this week for Nicole.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Todd. Thanks for listening to the podcast.