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Monday Mini: Games By Women, 2025 Edition · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: never told your protection of iHeart Radio.
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  Speaker 2: And we are coming to the end of the year
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  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. I got it right because I
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  Speaker 2: had to write it down.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you do what you gotta do.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta do what I gotta do, right, And we
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  Speaker 2: decided to talk about some of the games by women
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  Speaker 2: that's been featured this year. Now, Annie and I will
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  Speaker 2: be doing another episode in which we're going to play
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  Speaker 2: some games. I'm gonna get some recommendations from you and
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  Speaker 2: try these games, and I'm going to give my take
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  Speaker 2: and review on the whether or not I.
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  Speaker 3: Think these games are for me or not for me. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: we already know how that goes. But I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: But with this year, I thought it would be fun
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  Speaker 2: to talk about a few because I don't think we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about too many women led, women created games this year,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, we need to do that. And as
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  Speaker 2: per usual, the list is pretty extensive, so I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to narrow down by a lot. I've only picked up
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  Speaker 2: four games, and actually a couple of these games have
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  Speaker 2: not been released yet, but the demos are out and
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  Speaker 2: they're already getting really rave reviews. And I will say
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  Speaker 2: we are actually using partially the list from Women Led
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  Speaker 2: Games Game Awards list. Yeah, that's right, that was just
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  Speaker 2: recently released, so they did this. I think December tenth
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  Speaker 2: was the awards shows about forty five minutes long.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go back and watch all of it.
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  Speaker 2: And just for clarification about this organization, Women Led Games
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  Speaker 2: brings recognition to the hard working women in the games
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  Speaker 2: industry with a showcase every year showing off all the
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  Speaker 2: innovative games coming from women led and majority women's studios.
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  Speaker 2: We aim to highlight all the amazing things women doing
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  Speaker 2: games and support their efforts in order to create a
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  Speaker 2: more equitable games industry. And that is from Womenledgames dot com.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want to go look at their list
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  Speaker 2: as well, because again it is pretty long list and
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  Speaker 2: it has all the good stuff that Annie you would love.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't bring it out, but there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of horror games in here that I know I can't do,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of battle games that also know I
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  Speaker 2: can't do, a lot of RPG games that I know
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  Speaker 2: I can't do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, But all those.
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  Speaker 2: Things to say, there are some really fun, interesting games
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  Speaker 2: coming out from their list, and I love seeing big
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  Speaker 2: lists that really highlight.
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  Speaker 3: What they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And some of these studios are going to be familiar
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  Speaker 2: because we have talked about them or featured of them
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  Speaker 2: or played them before. So we're gonna start off with
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  Speaker 2: Nano Neighbors. And I find this concept really, really, really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So this is what they say about Nano Neighbors, and
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  Speaker 2: this is from their site, an online idle game that
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  Speaker 2: brings life to the bottom of your screen with friendly
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  Speaker 2: androids called nanos. Customize your nanos, choose their occupation, build
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  Speaker 2: design their perfect home, and invite your friends nano's over
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  Speaker 2: to hang out, join many activities, and interact. So I
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  Speaker 2: know these have been around because my partners be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we played these things, and I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what this is because I'm also not constantly online.
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  Speaker 3: I'm online enough, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Find this idea very fascinating and it is interactive.
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  Speaker 3: Any why you giggling? Have you done this?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: No, there's just a Black Mirror episode about Sorry, scared
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  Speaker 1: of that?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, are you scared of this?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's just the first thing. I don't
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  Speaker 4: even know if it's quite the same, but it's like
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  Speaker 4: it's like a little world and they do their own
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  Speaker 4: thing while you're away, but then you come back and
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  Speaker 4: you interact and.
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  Speaker 2: Then oh yeah, I guest see, like that's not just
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  Speaker 2: a black beer. I've seen like animations of types of
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  Speaker 2: things like that as well.
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  Speaker 3: But that's fine that that's what you jump to. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: This was created by Studio Dots and Independent Creative Studio,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of people really love these idle games,
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  Speaker 2: and specifically this one.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like, again, something I would enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: I think it would just have to be about commitment
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  Speaker 2: because I want to keep people alive.
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  Speaker 3: Also interacting. I'm not great at interacting online. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna lie.
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  Speaker 2: The conversation could be a not great at interacting period,
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  Speaker 2: but you know whatever. So this was from a Vice
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  Speaker 2: article about the game. They said, Yeah, using something like
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  Speaker 2: Slack or discord to communicate with friends and coworkers is
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  Speaker 2: nice and all, but don't you wish that sometimes things
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  Speaker 2: could be a little more personable. Nano Neighbors is looking
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  Speaker 2: to fill that void, offering an adorable take on idle
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  Speaker 2: desktop simulators. Imagine the idea of something like Gather, but
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  Speaker 2: with adorable chipby characters instead, communicate with your buddies without
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  Speaker 2: needing to open a new window, play mini games, and
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  Speaker 2: take care of your anime friends. Plus, with Twitch integration,
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  Speaker 2: this may be the best way to let your viewers
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  Speaker 2: interact to hang out with you if you're into that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe we're gonna, you know, test it out as
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  Speaker 3: a as a s minty thing.
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  Speaker 1: Annie we could, it would be an interesting experiment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, this feels like a throwback into COVID
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  Speaker 2: lockdown days of trying to hang out, and I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that's a cute idea, especially if you're working from
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  Speaker 2: home and you sometimes like a good destruction. Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know. Maybe maybe in the future we
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  Speaker 3: could talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: But I really like this concept of interacting with people
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  Speaker 2: sometimes and playing mini games again, kind of like among us.
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  Speaker 2: But it is idle, so it's not constant and it's
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  Speaker 2: not over the top.
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  Speaker 3: And he's afraid that's gonna take over our career.
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  Speaker 4: Just so y'all know, I've played too many horror games.
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  Speaker 3: It's this is this is the problem here.
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  Speaker 2: She's taking something so and putting the horror com Just kidding,
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  Speaker 2: but no, I think it's an interesting idea. So another
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  Speaker 2: one is witch Bakery, and again this one is not
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  Speaker 2: yet released. But everything about this feels like a me game,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because you know I love
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  Speaker 2: a good bakery kind of similation. So this from steampower
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  Speaker 2: dot com. They write, this is a descriptor. The Witch's
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  Speaker 2: Bakery is a cozy adventure at RPG about a joyful
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  Speaker 2: witch who opens her bakery in modern Paris. She has
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  Speaker 2: one special power she can see into people's hearts and
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  Speaker 2: heal emotions through magic. Ah, that's so cute and the
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  Speaker 2: artwork is really cute and pretty. So it's created by
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  Speaker 2: Sunny Lab and they describe their game like this. The
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  Speaker 2: Witch's Bakery is a two D adventure puzzle game where
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  Speaker 2: you play as a joyful witch who opens a bakery
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  Speaker 2: in modern Paris. She has a special power she can
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  Speaker 2: heal emotions with her bread, so healing with magic pastries
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  Speaker 2: during the day, exploring Paris with our friends in the evening,
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  Speaker 2: and improving her skills in the night. It kind of
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  Speaker 2: sounds like something I would love to be fair, unless
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  Speaker 2: something bad happens when they're not healed, and that might
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  Speaker 2: be a problem for me. I can't handle those emotions, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: But everything else seems super cute. Again, it's not been
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  Speaker 2: released that yet, it's coming out in Tween twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: but there is demos, and I do want to play
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  Speaker 2: these demos eventually, so I think I'm going to try
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  Speaker 2: to do this in the next couple of weeks and
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  Speaker 2: I'll come back, but I really want to come back
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  Speaker 2: and visit when they are released.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of them are.
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  Speaker 2: Coming through Steam, but I think Seam just has a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot more availability with their new system, so it
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  Speaker 2: might just be like it's offered here and here and here.
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  Speaker 3: So and then.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I would bring up a mobile game as well.
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  Speaker 2: This was not from that list, and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: been around for a minute, but I didn't know about
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  Speaker 2: this one. And it's called A Normal Lost Phone. So
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  Speaker 2: this is what's written in the Google app in the
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  Speaker 2: play Store, they write this A Normal Lost Phone is
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  Speaker 2: a game about exploring the intimacy of an unknown person
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  Speaker 2: whose phone was found by the player. The game takes
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  Speaker 2: shape of a narrative investigation. You have to search the
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  Speaker 2: phone's text, message, pictures, and applications in order to learn
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  Speaker 2: about its former owner.
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  Speaker 3: Through the phone.
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  Speaker 2: You uncover Sam's life, friends, family, and relationships until the
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  Speaker 2: evening when they turn eighteen and mysteriously disappear. So I
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  Speaker 2: find that that is fascinating. I do like a good
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  Speaker 2: puzzle game. So it was created by women led studio
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  Speaker 2: plug In Digital, who did the game Strange Horticulture, which
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  Speaker 2: I do love.
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  Speaker 3: I just could not read the text.
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  Speaker 2: Really well, but I need to go back to it
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  Speaker 2: because it's a beautiful fun game. I'm also like a
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  Speaker 2: puzzle game as well, but I find like this kind
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  Speaker 2: of mystery.
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  Speaker 3: Enticing.
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  Speaker 2: And this is from the side of a normal loostphone
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  Speaker 2: dot com if they say these are the features an
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  Speaker 2: immersive and intuitive way of introducing the narratives through a
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  Speaker 2: fake smartphone interface. A game that bridges the gap between
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  Speaker 2: reality and fiction by letting players act as themselves. The
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  Speaker 2: game asks a simple question, if you close the app
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  Speaker 2: but still think about the game, have you truly stopped playing?
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  Speaker 2: A relatable story that helps build empathy with the characters,
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  Speaker 2: allowing to explore difficult topics.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to have you feeling emotions. Annie, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: You know I like that.
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  Speaker 4: You know there's a game I played once because I
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  Speaker 4: feel like it was a game that once you get done,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I know it. But it sounds kind
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  Speaker 4: of similar to this where you it's called Her and
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  Speaker 4: they have a second game that has just come out
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  Speaker 4: that I have but I haven't played yet, But it's
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  Speaker 4: like you're a detective trying to solve a case and
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  Speaker 4: you have all of the evidence, but you have to
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  Speaker 4: be able to know the right search terms and.
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  Speaker 1: Like talk.
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  Speaker 4: You talk to people and you try to figure out like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: what should I be looking into and if you get
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: all of that, and you could guess what happened in
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  Speaker 4: this missing person case, and it was very rewarding. But
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  Speaker 4: it kind of sounds similar. I think this one is
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  Speaker 4: probably a more emotional. The story as opposed to this
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  Speaker 4: one was like you're a detective trying to solve right case.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing a job as where this is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of an emotional attachment.
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  Speaker 3: Well we need to try this game.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I'm happy into it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even to tet. And then there's another one.
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  Speaker 2: It's called a Dodo Ducky, which I confuse for a
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  Speaker 2: Dodo duck, which apparently is a nightlight. You need a
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  Speaker 2: duck light light yeah, because I was trying to find it.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, why is it giving me a
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  Speaker 2: night light? It was a really cute nightlight. Just saying
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  Speaker 2: none of these are sponsors, by the way, but it's
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  Speaker 2: a game that is a duck walking simulator and apparently
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  Speaker 2: has mister Capibera and his magic hat.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I wrote in the discussion.
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  Speaker 2: And it goes back and forth from two D and
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  Speaker 2: three D, so it toggles back and forth. Mean another face,
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: why not.
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  Speaker 3: What faces the story? And I really which is.
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  Speaker 1: A little video to be honest, No, it's nothing.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like a really difficult thing in horror games
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  Speaker 4: when that happens.
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  Speaker 3: Really, so I probably would struggle.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's like two D is you press straight right,
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  Speaker 4: and then you press right, and then you press straight,
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  Speaker 4: keep going right.
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  Speaker 1: Three D is you go just press except for where
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: you're okay.
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  Speaker 4: So in a horror game they like to use that
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  Speaker 4: for like all of a sudden, something's chasing you and.
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  Speaker 1: You can't get a whole thing has changed.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that does seem frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: That probably would have already scary.
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  Speaker 3: This is a horror game, though you don't think the
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  Speaker 3: ducks simulator.
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  Speaker 1: Listen I've been around the box metha, we don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't think so. This is from the Nerdy
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  Speaker 2: Type dot Com. They write this Dodo Ducky is a
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  Speaker 2: perspective shifting platform in development by born Monkey. You're essentially
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: getting two games in one with the necessity to switch
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  Speaker 2: between two D and three D to navigate the platforms
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  Speaker 2: and work through the puzzles that get in your way.
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  Speaker 2: It's heaps of fun and packed with features. So again,
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  Speaker 2: it's created by born Monkey, which is also an independent studio,
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  Speaker 2: which you know, we love that around here. We want
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  Speaker 2: to keep highlighting especially women led and women centered studios.
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  Speaker 2: So I because duct simulator games are interesting anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: this seems like it could be interesting. Again, this is
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  Speaker 2: also one that has not been released yet and it
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  Speaker 2: just says Q one twenty six, so we're not sure
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  Speaker 2: when they do have again demos and they say, like
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  Speaker 2: the writer from the Nerdy Type dot Com was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you need to go and check this demo out. You
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: need to try it out. It does say you can't
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  Speaker 2: just download it. You have to go through a special
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  Speaker 2: site to download it. So that's something to note. But
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  Speaker 2: several of the games that the women led games featured
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  Speaker 2: or awarded seems to also need have not maybe met
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  Speaker 2: all of the Kickstarter I'm not really sure. So you
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: can go and look and check those out and see
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  Speaker 2: if any of those that you want to see come
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  Speaker 2: for fruition quickly. So in donating to these games, the
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  Speaker 2: Kickstarter has been in a phenomenal way in getting independent
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  Speaker 2: studios and independent games released. That probably should be an episode,
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  Speaker 2: because I have a filling Kickstarter. It's really something that
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  Speaker 2: has helped a lot of marginalized creators where corporations have not. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just an idea, but anyway back to this, but I
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  Speaker 2: think this is some of just four of these games
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  Speaker 2: that I find fascinating and I do want to check
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  Speaker 2: out again. We haven't talked as much about games this year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm still playing things still me too.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about Silent Hill f a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, cozy games, we haven't talked as much. I'll
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  Speaker 2: say it that way because the Solid Hill is not cozy.
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  Speaker 2: You can't make me think otherwise we'll fight about it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I wouldn't try. In fact, you know, Dark Soulsian.
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  Speaker 4: Dark Soulsian is like a type of game where it's
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  Speaker 4: miserable and you die all the time, and it kept
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: getting compared to a Dark Soulsian game, and they the
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: creators were saying, no, no, no, no, it's not And
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  Speaker 4: when I was playing it and not the two mine horn,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm pretty good. Yeah, really, I was dying a lot,
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  Speaker 4: and there was a point where I thought I might
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  Speaker 4: be able to beat this game, and I eventually did.
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  Speaker 4: But the boy actress, the main voice actress, did a
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: live stream where she was playing it, and she started
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: crying because she couldn't get past it, and so the
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: creator she thought she's going to get in trouble. But
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: the creators created a new mode called Casual for people
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  Speaker 4: like if you don't want to I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: die misery because yeah, then yeah, they have a I
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  Speaker 4: don't have any.
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  Speaker 1: Problem with it.
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  Speaker 3: Really, y'all have a heart. Get it together. Oh oh
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: my goodness. Yeah, no, I think that's we all know.
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  Speaker 2: That's not my alley because I will throw things eventually.
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't throw tantrums often, but I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: This is where I would. Uh. I think I said that.
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  Speaker 2: My partner's sister actually played in boxing and loved it
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  Speaker 2: and finished it very quickly.
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  Speaker 3: I still haven't technically finished it.
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  Speaker 2: My partner has to, which you know, is one of
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  Speaker 2: the big games created by women as well.
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  Speaker 3: I love games like that, so more of those.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mention briefly at one point that there was
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  Speaker 2: a video that I had seen on social media TikTok
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  Speaker 2: that talking about how because corporations have realized that that
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  Speaker 2: is become a money maker, that they're just kind of
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  Speaker 2: slopping things together and saying, oh, look, cozing games. And
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  Speaker 2: a lot of women, especially women who are professionals and
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  Speaker 2: know what they're doing, have really come to the point
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  Speaker 2: of they stop insulting our intelligence and telling us this
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  Speaker 2: is a good game just because you're trying to hop
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: in on something that was a beautiful thing to see
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  Speaker 2: as it grows into the world for women in gaming,
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  Speaker 2: that is nice to have a game that's about empathy
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  Speaker 2: and that's about like growth, and that's about like.
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  Speaker 3: Puzzling and all these things like.
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  Speaker 2: Having corporations trying to come in and make money off
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  Speaker 2: of things that are so poorly done. So we want
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  Speaker 2: to keep focusing on these independent studios and these kickstarter
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  Speaker 2: type of games because we want the good stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and thank you to all the listeners who
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  Speaker 4: have sent in suggestions. I've said it before, I'm extremely
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: behind on the listener mail, so if I haven't responded
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  Speaker 4: to you, we have got them, and please keep those
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  Speaker 4: coming because we've gotten some really great suggestions.
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  Speaker 2: If you have games like where maybe eventually maybe we'll
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: try to do a sminthy or offshoot of our own
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  Speaker 2: Twitch title or something and then try to play some games.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what does the future hole dannysnine.
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  Speaker 4: It is in your hands. Well, thank you so much
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  Speaker 4: for listening. If you would like to contact us, you can.
• 16:36
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