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Why Head Coach is the Most Important Position in the NFL + Super Bowl Preview with Arik Armstead · NFL explained.

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Here we go. It's off the edge of me, your host,
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Cam Jordan.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: I'm super excited because when I'm in off season, I'm
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: eating what I want.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm sort of slowly headed.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: Towards offensive lineman territory of egregious way over. You know,
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about it, but it's not about me. It's
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: not about you know, off the edge of the podcast
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: because honestly, it's just a vehicle where I get to
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: talk to my really good friends across the league. We
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: get to talk good ball. We gotta talk about, you know,
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: how our days going, how our life is going. You know,
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: the season that we're putting together. Like this guy Eric Armstad,
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  Speaker 2: who has put together so many different years together as
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: an and as an edge, as a d tackle, a
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: man who you really can't put in a position, eleven
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: seasons deep, seventeenth overall from the twenty fifteenth draft class.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's got his own podcast called Third and Long.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: A defensive lineman out of Oregon currently with the jack Huars.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: You know who who had a top tier defense this year?
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Comeing and my guy Eric Armstead, Oh my bat, Walter
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: Payton man the year we're winning Pro.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: Bowler what's up, Bro, Appreciate you having me on the show.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Big fan of the show. Love what you do with
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  Speaker 1: your with your brand and with your platform. Bro, So
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: it's honor to join you. Man. Yeah, you know, we
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: sort of got the same hair hairstyle right now. You
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I d m J. I was like, Bro,
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: you you got some you'r aesthetic as bipolar. Bro. I
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: don't know what you be going for each and every
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: all season, but hey, a minimum schizophreny of me, Bro.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: I like this one though. I'm not gonna lie. This
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: one's smooth.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, bro, you know, I'm just I'm in my life.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be the best soccer player. I could
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: be FIFA World Cup coming up. I'm trying to blend there,
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: you know, getting no service, you know, I'm really just
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: trying to feel my best Dominican player.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: I could be. No. This one's smooth. This I feel
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: like this one of your your better ones. It definitely
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: make you look a lot younger, which is which is
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: a good thing. As we are, you know, as you know,
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: and they're trying to throw age out there quick. He's
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: thirty six. Yeah I am, and I.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: Feel phenomenal, you know how do you feel about after
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: at the end of this season? You know, every season
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: has its ups and downs. Every season you're like, dang,
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: I feel good this year, or damn, it's gonna take
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: me a while to heal up. Where are you at
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: with it?
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: I actually feel great. It's probably the best I felt
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: in the off season, man, in a couple of years.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: To be honest, body feels good, body feels great. To
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, decided to have a healthy off season,
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: kicking with the fam, you know, do some of my
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: other things that I have planned, and then get back
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: to training and looking forward to you know, another great
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: season next year. But now I'm feeling good, bro. To
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, how you feel, man, I feel phenomenal? Uh.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: In my mind, I was like, yo, I wish I
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: would have felt like this after year eleven. Of year twelve,
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: there was them after year ten, there was like eleven twelve,
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: I think like thirteen.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, it's taking me two three. He
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: must he healed. Yeah.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: Now I started playing pick aball literally two days after.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: Like I was pissed off the season was over. I
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: got like I started. I found myself at the bottle.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: There's really good tequila bottle called House Rare. They came
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: out with the Castle Quinn or whatever.
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: I can't even put up out there tequila, and I
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I've got to be better.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: And then I started playing pickaball, So I've been good.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: Now that's what's up. I felt. I don't know, bro,
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: it's weird. I feel like like as you progress in
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: your career, it's certain like plateaus that like you break
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: through and then you know, your body just feels a
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: certain way. I don't know if it's the age thing
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but I feel like years. Once I got
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: to year seven, I was like, ooh, started feeling a
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: little different. Then I hit like, you know, ten or eleven,
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, actually feel straight. You know, I don't feel
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: too bad, you know for you you know you got
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: another block from from where I'm att and you know
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: I'm interned. Year twelve. You know you got a whole
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: nother block, so you're sixteen coming up. Yeah, I think
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: it's just hissuing in waves. Bro. It's like sometimes it's
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: like you feel good and then sometimes like your body's
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: telling you, like, bro, what you doing? Bro? You need
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: to need to chill out y. I ain't even got
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: no chill bro. I'm all go.
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  Speaker 2: This is the first time I've even never I've never
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: not had a contract. I've never not played for guaranteed money,
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: never not had a contract going.
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  Speaker 1: This is the first time I'm like, hey, yo, what
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: off season? Like? Is there such a thing as as
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: a market for a year sixteen player? I mean gotta
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  Speaker 1: be seen.
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  Speaker 2: Kalais Campbell hit the market like five times since the Jaguars.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: That market is there, and you know, some of the
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: some of the conversations I've been having, you know with
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  Speaker 1: people is like defensive line, especially bigger guys like you know,
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  Speaker 1: yourself and myself, Like our production, you know, and what
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: we can bring to the game, it doesn't diminish much
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  Speaker 1: even as we enter you know, early thirties, mid thirties,
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: late thirties, like because our skill set is still there.
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: You know, we're big bodies, so we can take you
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: built off power, guess what, and then you add a
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: little skill to that. And so if you look around
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: the league, there's a lot of guys, you know, kind
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: of in that bracket. You know, I feel like you're
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: definitely one of them that set the stage like of
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: the type of production and you know, still ascending in
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: your career even as you age and like defensive linemen
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: like I feel like we're built for that. Absolutely. I mean,
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: you know, year fifteen, you go ten and half sex deep.
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: Oh got it? Talk about it.
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: We got a little ten piece and a biscuit. Tell
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: my young boy, you put you know you've missed out.
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: Chase Young win news at the night And I played
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: with Chase for one year. Yeah, there we go. So
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: I told Chase, you know, i'd be like, I'd be
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: like ribbon them, like, hey, bro, until you get ten sacks,
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: like you really not a pass rucier, so you better
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: start playing the run.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: But like I said, if you if you don't touch,
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: he would have got too.
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: I was proud of him, bro, I was. I was
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: definitely proud of him to see that. You know, Chase
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: been through a lot in his career. The talent always
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: been there, you know. He came out popped off on
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: the scene, dealing with injuries and then came back, you
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: know with a reinsurgence. So I'm actually that's my little homie. Man.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of him. Man, That's what I said. He
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: but he he missed the first five, so really he
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: did he had ten to like twelve, twelve games or something.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I say. I said, Hey, I said,
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: you're a pastor. Now, hey go sturtch those we was
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: playing at Lanta last game. That boy said, let's stop
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: playing me. But he's talking to his own like I said, Oh,
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: I said, the world might have messed up because now
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: he to figure out his get off plus his lean nature.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: What happened with y'all? Though? I feel like y'allre playing
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: really good football down the stretch. Yeah. Yeah, for whatever reason,
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: not even for whatever reason. If you look at our schedule, bro,
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: we out of our first seven games, all of them
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: hit the playoffs. Chef for the Cardinals. You know what
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I said, damn said, we got young quarterback. We're trying
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: to figure some stuff out of the offense. Yeah, and
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: we're catching.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: Drake May we catch and Sam Darnold, we're catching the Rams.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: We're catching. I was, god, damg it, can we can
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: we ease in? Yeah? Go ahead, get run me the Giants. Thanks.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: You know, we started off with Cardinals. I was like,
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: all right, cool, that's a little warm up. All right,
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: I see how you know Cardinals always start off hot.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: You know, they're like, you know, they come out first
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  Speaker 2: four games by and take everybody. But oh it's happening.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yes, I definitely notice, you know, down
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: stretch how y'all definitely turned it up and playing some
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: really good football. So that was cool to see.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: Uh, there's a little buzzing around the city. You know
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like y'all got like y'all got something,
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: you know on the way, you know, we hope.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: So Tyler Schuck sort of took over like we you
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: know whatever, the eight nine whatever, and then't really look back,
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: you know, had a really strong showing, started winning them games,
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: you know, with the young with the young team, you know,
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: take me tomorrow out of it.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: But like a young core team, upcoming team, you have
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: to figure out how to win.
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: Winning is not something you just fall into. It's it's
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: earned behavior, not a learned behavior. You know, you're like, oh, man,
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: we used to win with Drew. Drew's gone. Now we're
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. Man, Ben nine quarterbacks in
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: five years, brother, we know.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew Drew Ben gone.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: Bruell me tell me tell me about the researchers y'all
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: had on defense. Y'all sort of had like a low
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: year last year, but then we's start of turning up.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: Bro started watching it, I was sort of exciting.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, like like any season, ups
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: and downs, but I feel like, first and foremost, we uh,
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: we got talent on every level of our defense up front,
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: linebackers crazy, and we got talent in the back end too,
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Guys that were getting the ball out the air this
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: year at a crazy rate, which you know really didn't
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: happen the previous year. And so Anthony Kevinelli coming in,
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: our defensive coordinator, he bringing that fire, that energy, that
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: belief in uh, in all all of us. And you know, guys,
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: you know, we're just kind of fed up, bro, you
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you know, fed up of
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: being at the bottom of the league, fed up of
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: uh not having no respect, and you know, you gotta
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: go take respect in this league. And so I think
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: as a group, we carried that on our shoulders and
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: we went out there and you know, play some pretty
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: good football and got things turned around. Number one run
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: defense in the NFL, which I pride myself on and
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: like I feel like it always starts there. You can't
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: stop the run. They can't have no fun. Yeah, you
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: gotta stop the run to have fun. Bro. So definitely
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: proud of that and proud of the guys. Bro. Like
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: some guys you know all pro Devin Lloyd went crazy
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: this year. You know, got guys up front were bawling. Josh,
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: Josh heyines Allen had a crazy year. Fer Uh, Trevon
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Walker doing he started, he starting to come to his own.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: He got that speed to power that people are not like,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they're not respecting this man's power
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: role because he is smaller body. Yeah, so Treyvon had
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: had ten ten sacks the last two years. This year
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: he dealt with some injuries. But when he was when
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: he was healthy, Bro, he was going crazy. So he
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: about to get a big bag as well too. But yeah, man,
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: we we got some dogs, bro, guys that you know
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: love playing the game, and so it was fun to
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: fun to take the field with him and you know,
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: be that you know, veteran leadership presence.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie bro that that Josh heines Allen
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: be throwing me off from Josh Allen.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: He just threw a random ketchup in there. I said, wait,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, yeah it was it was it was
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: something he'd been thinking about doing for a while, just
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: a way to, you know, show love to both sides
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: of his family. And but yeah, it's it, definitely. I
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: asked him a couple of weeks ago. I might have like,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: do has it settled in? You know, like Josh Heinz Allen,
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: has it settled in? Like is that like the new
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: norm for you? Or is it still a little weird.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: He was like, it's kind of, you know, it's kind
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: of settling in. But you know, he broke the record
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: in Heines Allen two franchise sack record this year, so yeah,
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: definitely proud of that boy already. So now he's just
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: the new standard, new standard. Bro's it's only it's only
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: up for here, right, he already broke down. I figured,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: Yanna put some numbers up, duty, dude, put some numbers up.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: There's another guy played.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: Curse, maybe like the freak I had to think about,
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: like the pastor of Saxonville. No, Saxonville was with short
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: stint guys.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there was another guy. I guess there a
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: guy named Tony Brackens who played there for some first
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: some years. He had the record and then before Josh
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: broke it. So I mean, just this is just the
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: spaces loan. What was like nine bacant head coach jobs
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: that that was? I think it was ten at one point.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was crazy.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: You know, you had, uh the Steelers head coach Mike
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Thomas stepped down and I was like, bro, what's it
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: been like?
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Nineteen years in John horbro eighteen years in then McDermott.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: McDermott was the shocker too.
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Man said, it was just spots popping up, you know,
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: Morris out of out of Atlanta.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: I said, I said, wait a minute, he's doing he
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: was doing a good job. Yeah, I don't I don't
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: know what it. I don't know what it is. But
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: the owners was the owners was fed up. I said,
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: how you get fed up of going to the playoff?
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Like they was fed up this year? Bro Man, No all,
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: y'all gotta go. I said. Even the bills though, like
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. Bro. Shop was a great coach, right They
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: that definitely was a shocker. Yeah, crazy, But they named
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Joe Brady the head coach today I just saw that. God.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: I mean you figure they hired from within. It's like
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: you fired Sean McDermott. I mean you look at that.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: They got to keep somewhat of a culture there.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like if you if you
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: fire a coach that got you to the playoffs every year
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: for the last like five.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they I don't know what they
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: expect Joe Brady to do, right, Like, is it just
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be like a new message or right? I would say.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Joe Bratty's young, so he's bringing energy,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: he's bringing vibes.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: He was he started off as an assistant coach at
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: the Saints, so I know him. Well, oh you doing okay? Yeah,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: so a little familiarity, you know, he's he's definitely coming
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: in there. Uh, Falcon's head coach. They just announced. But
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: it was a Stefanski. You saw that beef. You saw
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: that beef with Baker Mayfield happen. Yeah, I don't know
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: what that was about. Came from far left from that,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. Bron Brad must have had a
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: flashback when he's seen that or something. Hey, you know
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: what I sort of liked it too. I said, you
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: know he's in division, so yeah, you gotta see you
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: twice a year. That boy came out of left. Yeah.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: I got smoke for you every time I see you. Yeah, Nah, Baker,
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Baker definitely got a chip on his shoulder, as he should,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: bro number one pick. You know things that work out
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: in Cleveland, shout around to a few teams landing in
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: temples of that. And then I've seen the picture where
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: they had him praying practice practice squad defensive line. I said,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, that they was doing him dirty.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: They was trying to bury him. I was trying to
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: bury him. What Geno say? They wrote me off? But
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I ain't right fire? Whoa. That's it. That brings a
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: whole new question. But we'll talk about it.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, just you you talk about what charge the
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Chargers of defensive coordinator goes over to the Ravens as
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: their head coach, Jesse Mentor you've got Packers uh decordinator
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Jeff Haley. Uh went to the Dolphins head coach. You know,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: the Dolphins head coach. Now he's the OCU at the Chargers.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: It's like a shuffle. It's like it's like a coach shuffle.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: In my mind sometimes coaching just not even maybe not
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: the head coach, but once once the head coach gets
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: filled in, it's about who you know. You know, like
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: some of the these guys, some of these hires. You
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: be like, bro, he don't really know ball for real.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: But then it's like a position coach and he'd be like, yo,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: that's not gonna work out. Well yeah, I mean I
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: had that run in. I said, how did he get hired?
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't even know if he can read.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: He can't read. He can't read a defense. This man
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: just throwing random stuff in and he's like, hey man,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: this gonna work. Heause I can tell you, Bro, I
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: had I've had a position gouse. You're like, hey man,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I can tell you it's gonna be run or past.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the time he threw the clips together
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: and was wrong. Fifty percent of time. He's like, this
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: right here, gonna be running. It was a pass. I said, hey,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: hold you love.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Like, oh man, I remind how did this guy get hired?
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Bro, it'd be it'd be it'd be crazy.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: If you've been in this for for quite some time, Bro,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: there's definitely some great coaches out there, phenomenal coaches. There's
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: there's technicians, there's guys that a resume speak for themselves.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: He'd be like, oh dang, oh no, you like oh
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: he he comes to the room and like, oh he
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: knows he I'm gonna I'm gonna say this too, broch
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: is the most important thing in the NFL. I'm not
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: gonna hold you, bro. I feel like everyone has talent,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: you know this to a certain extent, Like you might have, Yeah,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: four teams that are like the outliers, like bottom of
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the league, four teams top of the league, four teams
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: that you know are struggling, you know, got to develop
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the roster or got a superior roster. But besides that, bro,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: everyone's in the middle. Anyone could beat anyone on envy,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: get any given Sunday and coaching. I feel like it's
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the biggest denominator, bro, Like, how can you get a
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: group of men like us to rally around each other?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: How can you build a culture and how can you
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: put this in position to be successful and how can
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you adjust within the game to get a win? So
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like that I think that's the most important.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Hell ya, So you feel like that's one of you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: biggest turn arounds because I mean, last year, y'all was
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: like four and thirteen.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: You was it a struggle bus like I was.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: We were swinging up, swinging up and out, and then
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: this year y'all go thirteen to four.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Do you think that?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think coaching staff in terms of game planning,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: in terms of halftime adjustments?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Bro, last year there was a couple of games we
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: didn't even we didn't even have a halftime adjustment. I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: looked around. I said, Bro, it's gonna work. I mean,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you look at it. The roster was pretty similar. You know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: roster was pretty similar. It wasn't you know that we
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: added some new pieces, some great great additions. But I
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: mean the only thing that really changed was was that.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I wasn't. I wasn't there much
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: prior to that. You know, this is on my second
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: year in Jacksonville, so I don't know like how deep
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: it goes ins and outs. But you know, coach Cohen,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: in the in the in the staff, we had first
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: timers everywhere. First time head coach, first time GM, first
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: time defense coordinator, first time offensive coordinator, first time this
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: first time that, and so in doing that, I knew
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: that they were gonna be hungry, that they that everyone
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: wants to leave a good first impression at least, and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: so they were gonna leave no stone unturned. And I
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: think that that, uh, you know, end up being good
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: for us. Man. You know, we uh we had something
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: to prove as a team, and they had something to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: prove as a staff. And it was a it was
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a you know, a good first start, but you know
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a lot more to do, you know, locking to get better.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, all I know is is your head coach got
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that fired, he got he got some dog in them.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: You do seem Jawn Jacket with with saloons after the game.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: What's going on? I like that. Them boys, Them boys
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: funny man. You know, I know Soli very well too,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So I couldn't do nothing but just chuckle when I've
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: seen that. But you know, they're gonna they're gonna they
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: gotta squash the beef because they're gonna be they're gonna
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: be at them NFL meetings together. They gotta squash it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't really think it. I don't really
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: think it's beef or smoke like that. But that was funny, bro,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I said, I want to know more. I said, oh,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: we got so drama like that. And then you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Sala just got h he just got hired over the Titans,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: so they gonna be at all the all the head
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: coach meetings, all the owners meetings in the division. Bro. So, hey, hey,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: look at each other. We're good. It was just so
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: funny because I felt I knew it was brewing up
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: all week. I didn't know that's how it was gonna
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: go on game day, but it was brewing up all week.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And the funny thing was like that was my return
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: back to the Niners too, So I was like he
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: was just like everybody was a little I'm like, dang,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: what's y'all? Everybody owned this week? Man, it was it
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: was a little different. Hey who's y'all? Just about who's
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: your rival? Like I just thought about it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: We know New Orleans hates the Falcons, and then Tampa
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Bay and Carolina rotated like, hey, we hate y'all too,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: but I only hate the Falcons.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Apparently our rival is the Titans. Oh oh, this is
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: gonna feel well then, apparently, I you know, yeah, up
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: in Saxonville, Duvaul out there like, what's up. Yeah, you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: apparently that is the rival. You know, they've been every
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: time since I've been here. Whenever we played them, it's like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you know how everyone start talking. They don't like they
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: don't like us, we don't like them and all that.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: So oh day, for real, we got smoked with them. Okay,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: let let's go. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Okay, So
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that plays in quite well, you know, for week four
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to the next couple of seasons. Yeah, twice a year. Yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna be a lot of fun. Okay.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I mean you know, that just brings believe me to
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: my next question, like, when is it that you were
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: able to buy into uh to go in as as
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a head coach.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I bought it. I bought him from the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: very dump. You know. When we hired him, he did
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: something that a head coach and I had never seen do.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Like the first couple of days with him getting hired,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: me and Josh hens Allen went to dinner with him
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to kick it with him and just meet him, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this is this is really cool,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Like to have an opportunity to you know, get to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: know your coach on more of a personal level and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that that was a point of the emphasis for him
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and he wanted to do that too. So from the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you know, from the jump, it was like let's go,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like we got things to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: get turned around, and there was a new new vibe
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in the building and everyone was, you know, trying to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: get it done together in facts. Yeah many you know
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that that helps you build him the next year as well.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You go thirteen to four, confidence high for next year. Yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: with with with going with you know with that too,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you know, higher expectations as well too, so you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the work just getting started, higher expectations. You're not gonna
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: surprise people anymore, you know all that comes with it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: People are know you're a good team, but there's you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a lot more to do. We'll be right back. Let's
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: pivot to the main you know, main week coming up
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: after after this week, it'll be the super Bowl week,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you know, uh.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Back in the back in the Bay, which isn't the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: most well organized super Bowl to begin with. Yes, it's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Santa Clara, Santa Clara, so it's really not a part
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of the Bay. But they're gonna say it's the baby
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: say in San Francisco, but it's gonna it's gonna be
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: some events in Oakland.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be some Vince in San Francisco.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be some events in like San Jose, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: they're gonna try and make some events in Santa Clair.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's too spread out, too spread out, and the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl is there too. I wanted to talk to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you about this, bro. I like that. Yeah, it's cool.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: But do you know they they stopped doing alternates for
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: O line d Lin? Is that what happened? Yes?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Who like who like falling? If nobody goes, they just don't.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: They just don't, no one.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, so what happens if if two guys like you,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: so like de Marcus Lawrence going to Super Bowl?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Who feels no, they just play a seven or seven game?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who decided that? Who decided the alternate? So quarterbacks?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Can you can have the fifty fifth? There's a there's
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: alternates for every position except old line d Lin. We
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: got we gotta just we gotta talk about that, Yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: we gotta. I did not know that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I was wondering who the alternates were going down?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: There isn't that's there is no bro. I was like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: who decided that? So we gotta have we gotta have
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: some discussions, man, no doubt. Cool, Bro, I'm looking at it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, like, if we just look at stats alone,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I was like, bro Like, but okay, that's that's definitely something.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: How do you not have alternates that at the most
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: important position not named quarterback?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know how. Well, yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: we gotta have some discussions with that, because that's not cool.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But you know you were talking about uh super a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: week and all that. But I'm excited. I'm gonna be
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: out there. I know you're gonna be out there too.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We get to lead up. You still got you still
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: got the crib out in the bay or you sald
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that thing. Nah. I had a house in Sack for
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of years, but since since sold that. You know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you guys set up get you in Florida, taxis man,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I got I got a house here. I left here.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I lived here and least offices and this is me now,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: okay this I will be here all right. So we
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: talked about let's talk about Seattle. We both played them.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I played them and I looked up in the first
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: quarter it was they was twenty one up in all
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the type of way.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I said, Oh, I said twenty eight, I said. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: said wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. I said, wait.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: We didn't have a chance to fight back, fight back
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: in every game I've been I said, yo, like, there's
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: three plays that we needed back. We would have won
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the game. See we played Seattle, I said, bro, we
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: have seventeen things go wrong.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: That was the that was the r for us.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Oh that was he We was fighting from from second
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: quarter on like, oh, we made it look good at
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the end, ish, but we were Finally, I said, bro,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that's not how it's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Supposed to go. Fight back. Put your hands up, do something,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: do something. I'm looking at looking like this, could y'all
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: fight that? I want to pass out a good team.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Our game went a little differently. They beat this by eight,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but I will say like they controlled. They did control
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the game. The defense played very well. You know, we
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: stopped their run game. They didn't run the ball on
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: us at all. But Sam Donald made some big plays.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: They got in big people, you know, taking shots down
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the field. JSN I think went crazy. I think he
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: had about one seventy versus US. So even though we
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: stopped the run, you know, they got the raid. Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it was a little bit of an air raid. So
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: they got a good team, man, very they don't have.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Looking at their team, it's like there's no holes really,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no holes in the roster. They're all
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you know, even some of the positions that may not
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: be as good, like, they're still solid and sound and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: so good team. Uh. You know, they definitely play playoff
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: type football. They want to run the football, protect the football,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and play good defense. And when you can play good defense,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: get after the quarterback and you can run the football
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and the quarterback don't turn it over. That's a recipe
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: for success. And then also you add in Sam Donald
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: is talented, talented enough to take over games as well too,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and and and take shots down the field. So yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they got a they got a very very good team.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Playing against them, it was I was like, Okay, I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: see why, you know, this is one of the better
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: teams in the league. That was early in the season,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: but I was like, man, it's a it's a very
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: good team. And that defense playing phenomenal, uh, playmakers at
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: all at every level, and The thing I think that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: sticks out to me about their defense is their overall speed,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Like they play fast, they look fast, they play fast,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and that playing fast, as you know, on defense, covers
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: up a lot of mistakes, no doubt. I say that
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that front seven is crazy, but the back is fire to.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Your weakest position is linebacker, and Ernest Jones the fourth
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: is not weak.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I think Ernest might have been All Pro this year.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: He again, Yeah, hey, corners is going crazy. Safety's going crazy.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: That's your only like linebackers. Just no, he's bulling.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Then you got you got three dudes in the in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the back end. That's for three or lower. Yeah, for sure.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Wool Wooling. He ran with a spooning ran like four
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to three. And then number three the rookie, he's he's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: going I don't want to butcher his name. He's super
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: fast and.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: He popped up the screen. I see him cover two
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: thirds of the field. I said, I said, he's a rookie.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I said, wait, oh yeah, they got I played him.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I said, I had to think about this. I was
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: over were worried about the office. I started looking at
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the said that defense is cold. Yeah, Nick, Nick, Sure
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: there we go.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nick nick nick out, they're going crazy, No, going crazy,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: for sure. I think he might be up for a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year. That makes sense.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, that makes that makes sense. The boy's talented,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: all right. So that's that's Seattle side.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I got a good team. I'm not going to Seattle
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: got a great team.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Look when I looked at it, I said, the only
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: team that might pose a problem to the Rams was Seattle.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: They beat him a couple weeks before. I said, it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: hard to beat team two teams in a row. That
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: was my only rationale because on paper, I said, I say,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: you say Pooka, you say I'd say, you know JS
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and you can you say Davante, You said Cooper Cup
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Like they had answers at every position.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You know, Kyle Williams. Okay, you got Kenny Walker.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: You know, He's the only thing I said, Okay, And
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I said, Matt Stafford is arguably going to be a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: top five, top ten quarterback of all time soon enough,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: if he's not already there.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably encroaching on top in top four area. Now, yeah, Matt,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, He's he got out of it. He got
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: out of Detroit and done.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Leveled up, level up, And I said, I said, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't know if Sam Donald could match
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: his play.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I was dead wrong. Sam Donald was out there dicing
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: things up. Donald was cooking, bro. He said, you want
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: to throw for three hundred me two? Sam? One of
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: them like Baker Mayfield. Man, they got chip on their shoulder.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: They changed the whole narrative. I was a teammate with Sam,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: he was. He was on our team and the Niners
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. Yeah, and I think Party maybe
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: got hurt one or two games that year. Sam came
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in did his thing. It was like, you know, we
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: were all very comfortable having Sam, like if something happened
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to Party. We were very comfortable winning football games with
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald. And he's done nothing but shown shown that
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: since since leaving the Niners. He went to the Vikings.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: This is second two years in a row, fourteen and three. Yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of quarterbacks doing that for for different teams.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Man, he saw I saw the Minnesota Vikings and they said, yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: but we got this JJ JJ McCarthy And.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I said, Yo, treat him like, treat him like a brother.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Love Jordan Love. You know what I'm saying, like they
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: put him, put him in school for a couple of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: years and then make him bomb.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: But they they dealed him out, and Seattle was like, yo,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: we like winners. And Sam Donald has done his part too,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: and now they're in the in the super Bowl, and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: so now let's talk about Patriot because all we've done
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: is hyped up Seattle, which I know who I think
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: is gonna win.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Here's a light.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: There's a lot to hype about the Patriots too. Day
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: is going crazy. But let's ten get real about this, right, Patriots.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Drake Drake May May, whatever the name is. Yeah, Drake
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: May is out there spinning right.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Was all season? Yep, a little bit. I mean their
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: their offense hasn't been as prolific in the in the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: playoffs quite honestly. But but that I mean, you're in
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Hey, the job done.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: He threw for what ninety yards last game and it
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: was a blizzard that came in, but the first half
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't a blizzard.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you uses his feet when when when he needs
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to A surprisingly fast man. I played against him last year. Complete, well,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the whole organization is a complete three sixty They were
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: last year yeah, you talk about us going from four
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and thirteen to thirteen and four Super Bowl. They went
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl with you know, with their turnaround.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: So but I think the big thing that I see
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots is they had a lot of cap
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: space this all season, and they they they hit on
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: them free agencies, no doubt. And what I'm and I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't really watched them all year, you know. No,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it was a little bit of crossover film with some
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: teams we played, but I haven't watched like a TV
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: game and stuff, so I really wasn't paying attention. But
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: then I'm watching the game, I'm like, man, they got
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Carlton Davis, what sor Gonzales? What? Now? They got lockdown corners.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Then you go to the defensive line. They got they
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: got They got mil Williams from Christian Barmore, Chase On
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: trading for him real quick and come here crazy. I'm like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Then they signed Harold Landry in free agency. You go
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball, they got Stefan Diggs,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Morgan Moses, you know, to help reassure that office of line.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Steps Morgan Moses offensive tackle mm hmm, Office of Tackle.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You know, what I mean, I'll be trying to go
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: out my way and not to the office of lineman.
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  Speaker 2: So you threw that one out there. That's what they drafted.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Will Campbell, you do it, you yeah, but you do
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: anything you can and respect them to disrespect every time.
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  Speaker 1: Every time.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, what if they got they're not looking and they
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: got their shoe.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I do got an off script question for you because
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I wanted to know it and I can't even I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: don't know why I can't remember his name, his face,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: But you know the uh trucking with the Boys that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: y'all was on ESPN. What's the office line? And needs
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: to play for the tights Busting with the boys Taylor
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: lu Wan Okay, So in that when you know you
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: said what you said about the office line, and.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Go ahead repeat it that there is athletic that's where
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you end up athlete.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: When he pulled up them combine comparisons, what was going
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: through your head because you got to think, quick are
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: your toes? He was kind of on you. No, no, women,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you know what's the women line? Men line numbers, don't
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I said, Oh, he picked out he picked out the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: listick that's gonna make the pig look good, HU show
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: all the numbers. We were close in jumps.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: That's fine, brother, But guess what when it comes to fluidity,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: when it comes to being on the field, there's no
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: comparison of what he was doing on the fielder versus
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: what I could do on the field.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: You can effect nine times out of ten. When you
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: get a new draft pick, right Eric, like you already know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: like they've drafted this freak from ut s A that
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: had you know, that jumps a forty five inch vert
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and runs a four or five and it's six foot
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: seven and whatever looks looks better. His numbers always gonna
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: say they're gonna be better. But can he beat you out? No? No, yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you know hey, but but so he threw those numbers out,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you numbers? Tell me? That's like
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you remember that office a lineman from like University of
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Maryland that ran a four six or four seven and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: went top ten and got his name was Campbell and
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: he got drafted the Raiders. I believe the guy guy
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: making like a four six, Yeah, yeah exactly. They were like, man,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be the best, how because you're gonna high
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: be hindred numbers didn't make you an athlete.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: No, show me what he did. Can he put that together?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm unfazed by He's like, but our
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: numbers were similar. Brother, we can look we can look similar,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: but does not make what doesn't mean that we're the same.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was a way that was. I'm here.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I'm here for all smoke at all time from any
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: office of lineman. And and and they're coming out the woodworks.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I'd probably don't hurt feelings. And I don't mean to
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: like they're like, bro, we're done all fat?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I get that fat is a sensitive topic, and I
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: get it, and I that should not be a word
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that I threw out there lightly. But when you took
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the scale of three hundred fifty pounds, nobody ever called
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: you skinny.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think. I mean there's there's oh no,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: there's some out there. There's outliers, there's freak athletes out
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: there in all forms. Yeah, there's some out there like
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the old lineman that I respect, that are like I
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: would consider, you know, more of like a true athlete.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: They had to hoop. If you ain't hoop, does your
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: cut off? If you ain't go across sports if you didn't.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: No, Hey, I respect I respect the entire position for sure,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and I'm I'm gonna go out of my way to
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: disrespect them every time because you're my op. But I
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: respect the entire I respect the entire position because bro, Like,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, there's still the top
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: one percent of the top one percent, So I respect them,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: like dang like you off the alignment, like, bro, because
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you ain't grow up thinking like ooh, I can't wait
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: to do this past set.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Man. You you dream of touchdowns for second quarterbacks, You
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: dreamed of hitting somebody, You dreamed of playing basketball. You
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: maybe even tennis golf. You ain't never woke up in
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: like at seven years old, was like, let me start
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: backpedaling really slow but effectively. No. Right, So you resiliency
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: because they gotta do something that they never dreamed of doing,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: no doubt.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, you might have to think that. What Hey, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: respect you, bro for living a dream that I know
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: you never had. Yes, all right, who you got winning
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? We get you out of here.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Oh man, welcome to the dark side. Uh, I'm gonna
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: go Seattle, Bro, Yeah, I'm gonna go Seattle. I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good game. Though I don't think uh,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Seattle's gonna blow them out by any means, but I think,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I think, I think it's gonna be decisive. I think
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be decisive win. Mm hmm. It's in. It's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: in the Bay. Seattle's nor has played over up there
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: twice already, the third time playing in the Bay. They're
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: very familiar with the area, feel familiar on the operations.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I think the I think Patriots. I think Vrabel's a
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: hell of a coach, so it's gonna get them ready.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: But I think because of the last two or three
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: performances offensive side, you know again, Drake may through for
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: ninety yards last game being and change when he when
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: he meets a formidable defense. He hasn't really proven in
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the playoffs that he could shine. Now they still got
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: the win, they're still in the super Bowl, and I
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: think they have potential. Especially I like the kid.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Uh they're running back Henderson, Yes, yep, steven they got
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: one Henderson and Stevenson. I think, yeah. I like I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like their back, their backs, I like I like their
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: tight ends. I like the wide receiver.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Then there's there's also Matt Collins, which is a completely
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I said, he gets all the dirty work. He comes
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: in barefoot and he's willing to block anybody and do
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: all the dirty work.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: So I like that. Yeah, he putting he putting them
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: dirty hands and feet on people. Now, Max, Max, Matt
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: is that receiver that you need, Bro, Like that's what
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you say.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: He's the edge, Like you know receivers are you know
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: these guys You're like, Bro, You're not You're not willing
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: to do this dirty work.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: He is down the field blocks though, whatever it takes,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: he's willing to do.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: So. I mean, I think I think the Patriot will
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: make it a good game. I just don't think it's
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: gonna be close. I think it's gonna be like a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: ten point swing in for sure Seattle's favor. And don't
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: let them, don't let him get rashid sha He going
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: on special teams early, they score, they scored one on
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: special teams.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Big fella, it's gonna it's gonna get ugly. Yeah, I
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how. Y'all let him get up out of
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: shut up, shut up, don't do this to me right now.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: What happened was he was headed towards free agency. I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: don't know, how did that man handed him this Super Bowl?
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Bro Chris Olive had his first all Pro season. You know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: So we had two of the same six foot speedster types,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: and so I that's how I'm rationalizing it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: We had two of the same type receivers, and honestly,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: we were trying to force Shaheed to just be receiver.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: When he's a receiver, he's he's he's he's a returner. Yeah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: he didn't return much this past year for us, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: then he went back to his natural position.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And he's a Pro bowler. Yeah, he's also returner. Yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the game going that way too, No doubt, there's a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: lot of parallels in the roster. I don't think. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: think the talent is kind of equivalent on both sides.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, just kind of from from what I seen.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: You know, Drake may could have an.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Explosion, and if he showed what he showed during regular season,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: then then it's gonna be a tight game.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he could. He could have a he could have
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: an explosion. You never know, you know, like Super Bowl Sunday,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: do something a little different to you. You know, you
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: could come out. I don't know that me tell me
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: because I want that. I don't want so bad, My bad,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: my bad. I mean, I ain't one one, but I
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: know super Bowl Sunday, you know, do something a little
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: different to you. Man. You get a little magic. Some
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: people get a little magical powers. Absolutely right. We'll see
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: if the magic hits this weekend, yeah, for sure next weekend. Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: But anyways, I appreciate you. Stop and body trap man.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: You know this is my pod bro off the edge
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: of me, Your host Cam Jordan, and my dog Eric
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Armstead were talking ball, were talking all things that pertain
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: to our sport that we love, you know, shout out
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to the office of Lineman. You know, the unsung heroes,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the ones that their best games nobody says their name
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: because that's just what the job details. So I respect you,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and I appreciate my dog, Eric Arnstead
• 40:50
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• 40:54
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• 41:12
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• 41:15
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