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Full Show Podcast: 11 March 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 2: Whatding to you?
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Speaker 3: Thank you for choosing our program. Welcome on in in
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Speaker 3: the next sixty minutes. It's a Tuesday, and we have
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Speaker 3: a new poll and the poll shows that Chris Hopkins
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Speaker 3: is more popular than Christopher Luxon, but only just so
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Speaker 3: what could the Prime Minister do to bolster his popularity?
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Speaker 4: Will have that story for.
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Speaker 3: You in five minutes. Canada has a new prime minister,
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Speaker 3: so who is Mark Carney and will his hardline attitude
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Speaker 3: to Donald Trump work? Will have that story for you
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Speaker 3: in ten minutes time. And the Prime Minister is heading
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Speaker 3: to India, so what is he going to find there?
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Speaker 3: We'll look at all the angles. After five point thirty
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Speaker 3: we're going to have correspondence from right around New Zealand
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Speaker 1: The agenda, it's Tuesday, the.
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Speaker 3: Eleventh of March, at least thirty six people have been
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Speaker 3: brought ashore and one person has been taken to hospital
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Speaker 3: after a US flagged oil tanker collided with a cargo
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Speaker 3: vessel in the North Sea. The US flagged Stinner Immeculate,
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Speaker 3: which is one of the ten vessels the US military
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Speaker 3: used to carry fuel, appears to have been hit by
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Speaker 3: a Portuguese flag container ship. So long and now jet
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Speaker 3: fuel has been spilling into the water.
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Speaker 5: It seems that we know exactly what happened here from
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Speaker 5: tracking data. I see what happened, not why it happened.
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Speaker 5: We know that the oil tanker was at anchor, it
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Speaker 5: was effectively stopped in the North Sea, and the salong
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Speaker 5: was coming from the ports of Grainsmouth in Scotland going
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Speaker 5: across to Rotterdam, and it hit the oil tanker pretty
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Speaker 5: much head on.
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Speaker 3: Wow, so long, so long now. Ukrainian President Zelenski has
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Speaker 3: arrived in Saudi Arabia for a state visit. He won't
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Speaker 3: be attending talk with US officials on Tuesday local time,
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Speaker 3: but Kiev is expected to push for a truce with
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Speaker 3: Russia in the sea and the sky.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm confident that the meeting will be productive. We
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Speaker 6: in Ukraine are committed to this very.
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Speaker 1: Much, so hosorables.
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Speaker 6: We will do our best to ensure that Ukrainian interests
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Speaker 6: are taken into account, taken into account in the right way.
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Speaker 3: And it remains unclear what Washington is prepared to offer
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Speaker 3: an exchange for access to Ukraine's mineral wealth. A State
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Speaker 3: of Department official says the US believes Kiev is ready
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Speaker 3: to move forward. Meanwhile, a Kremlin spokesperson says Russia is
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Speaker 3: at an initial stage of restoring bilateral relations with the US,
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Speaker 3: adding that the conversations between Trump and Putin have been constructive.
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Speaker 3: And finally, Canada's next president, Mark Karney, has vowed to
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Speaker 3: win the trade war against US President Donald Trump after
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Speaker 3: a landslide victory to replace Justin to Trudeau. Karney, who
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Speaker 3: will be sworn in as PM in the coming days,
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Speaker 3: has also pledged retaliatory tariffs on US goods until Americans
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Speaker 3: show some respects.
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Speaker 7: So Donald Trump thinks thinks he can weaken US with
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Speaker 7: his plan to divide and conquer, pre Polyev's plan will
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Speaker 7: leave us divided and ready to be conquered. Because a
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Speaker 7: person who worships at the altar of Donald Trump, will
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Speaker 7: kneel before him, not stand up to Dad.
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Speaker 3: That is Marc Canny never been elected. We'll talk more
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Speaker 3: about this in mister Pember's time and find out more
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Speaker 3: about him. Oh meanwhile, dug Ford don't know if you know
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Speaker 3: about him. He's a hard man against Trump as well.
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Speaker 3: He is the Premier of Ontario. He's also unveiling his
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Speaker 3: plans to impose retiliatory electricity tariffs on the United States.
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Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day Early
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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
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Speaker 1: Search Simple, News Talk Zippy.
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Speaker 3: It's ten after five. Well, congratulations New Zealand. We're getting
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Speaker 3: a new road. Registrations of interest will open this week
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Speaker 3: for a four lane extension of State Highway One between
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Speaker 3: Walkworth and the little town of Tehanna as a continuation
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Speaker 3: of the road that was once described as the Holiday Highway.
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Speaker 3: But really we know it's the key to unlocking the
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Speaker 3: potential of Northland and busy beavers at NZATA have been
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Speaker 3: coming up with a plan for a while now. It's
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Speaker 3: got a spiffy animated video and all, and now the
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Speaker 3: government is looking for a partner to build and run
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Speaker 3: the Northland Expressway and so the project will take pride
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Speaker 3: in place in this business investment conference. The government has
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Speaker 3: spent a million bucks on organizing. Now, the surprising thing
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Speaker 3: for me is that this is news. In the first place.
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Speaker 3: Our roading program ebbs and flows with the passing of
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Speaker 3: each successive government, and that is a weakness. And every
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Speaker 3: new government seizes on the plans that are already in
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Speaker 3: place to show that something is happening during their reign.
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Speaker 3: And it shouldn't be this way. Our schedule of infrastructure
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Speaker 3: build should be known decades into the future to give
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Speaker 3: certainty to construction firms and financiers in Germany. In Germany,
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Speaker 3: they lay two hundred kilometers of new railtrack every single
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Speaker 3: year because they have a long term plan and the
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Speaker 3: regularity of that work means that the specialized labor that
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Speaker 3: builds them has a predictable workflow, means they don't just
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Speaker 3: pack up and leave every time a project is finished with,
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Speaker 3: which is what happens here. I have a mate who's
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Speaker 3: a tunneling engineer and his lifestyle is bizarre because he
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Speaker 3: doesn't know where the next tunnel is. He keeps on
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Speaker 3: moving to other countries where there's work. He doesn't like that,
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Speaker 3: he doesn't enjoy that, he'd rather do without the upheaval.
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Speaker 3: But he never knows what's happening in the future of
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Speaker 3: this country. Now, this is something we've talked about, and
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Speaker 3: this is something that they say the Infrastructure Commission is
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Speaker 3: supposed to be working on to fix. So the thing is,
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Speaker 3: don't tell me about next year's road, tell me about
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Speaker 3: the one we're going to get in twenty years. Andrew Dickens,
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Speaker 3: twelve after five. A little other debate I heard on
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Speaker 3: the radio yesterday was about body armor cameras and a
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Speaker 3: call from David Lttelly that they should be compulsory. Let's
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Speaker 3: be honest. Body or cameras are inevitable with the level
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Speaker 3: of violence in society and the unenviable job the police have.
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Speaker 3: The cold hard evidence of what goes down in the
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Speaker 3: situation is vital. You need a camera. It's widespread and
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Speaker 3: the rest of the world, so it's coming. Arguments against it,
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Speaker 3: and I heard this and talk back with Matt and
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Speaker 3: Tyler yesterday. Arguments against it include the claim that storing
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Speaker 3: the images are expensive, but anyone who has a home
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Speaker 3: camera knows there's a ton of storage in every twenty
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Speaker 3: dollars mini SD card. Now the whole thing won't be cheap,
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Speaker 3: but nor will it be expensive. But here's the question
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Speaker 3: for you. Is now the time to spend money on
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Speaker 3: tech rather than using the police budget on feet on
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Speaker 3: the beat. I don't think so, but provision for it
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Speaker 3: must be in the budgets in the future. It is
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Speaker 3: five point thirteen. So the polls. I'll have some words
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Speaker 3: about the polls a bit later on. I think it's
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Speaker 3: the wrong time for polls when we're eighteen months away
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Speaker 3: from an election, but there and the talk is about
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Speaker 3: how the Prime Minister is not cutting it or not
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Speaker 3: getting through, not getting his message across, not being liked.
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Speaker 3: And we'll talk about this in a few moments time
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Speaker 3: with a fellow who is a professor of marketing at
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Speaker 3: the University of Auckland. This is News Talks, heb It
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Speaker 3: is coming up fourteen after five.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
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Speaker 3: Said be werena Taxpayer's Union Courier poll yesterday and it
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Speaker 3: showed that the National Party have fallen behind Labor in
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Speaker 3: popularity it's only half a percent though, But the interesting
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Speaker 3: thing in a way was that Chris Hipkins is above
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Speaker 3: Christopher Luxen for preferred Prime Minister. So I'm joined now
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Speaker 3: by Auckland University Associate Professor of Marketing, Michael Lee. Michael,
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Speaker 3: good morning to you.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Mike.
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Speaker 3: What's your reading of the PM's communication style, because people
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Speaker 3: are saying that he's not cutting through.
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Speaker 8: I think I've heard some of the interviews where you've
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Speaker 8: had a little game of cat and mouse with him,
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Speaker 8: trying to get him to commit to something. And you know,
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Speaker 8: for the most part, he's pretty good when he knows
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Speaker 8: what he wants to say. But I think what he
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Speaker 8: gets a bit stick He is obviously when he's been
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Speaker 8: pressed for something that he's clearly keen not to give
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Speaker 8: a definitive answer for, and then he comes across a
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Speaker 8: little bit evasive sometimes, and I think that's probably what's
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Speaker 8: happening people. I think, why don't you just answer the question, well.
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Speaker 3: Is he too married to bullet points from his prep?
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Speaker 1: Sorry?
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Speaker 9: What was that?
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Speaker 3: Is he too married to the bullet points that he's prepared?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that could be a stick to what you want
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Speaker 8: to say and don't get pressed into engaging in any
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Speaker 8: conversation that you're not comfortable answering. I think that does
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Speaker 8: come across.
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Speaker 3: But you see, the thing is, if you're going to
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Speaker 3: say something, you have to say it like you believe it,
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Speaker 3: and therefore you should be able to say it immediately.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. And so what we see is the points
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Speaker 8: that he's comfortable talking to, he can be quite decisive
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Speaker 8: and comes across quite strong. But then when you catch
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Speaker 8: him on something that he's not clear about or does
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Speaker 8: not want to engage in the conversation, then he becomes
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Speaker 8: very evasive.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's the difficulty about being the Prime minister. You
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Speaker 3: have to be the spokesperson on everything and you have
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Speaker 3: to be across everything. So I would say that there
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Speaker 3: are people in the back benches of the National Party
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Speaker 3: who would like to see him polling a bit higher.
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Speaker 3: What could he do to improve.
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Speaker 8: Well, a couple of the things that you've caught him on,
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Speaker 8: like the whether or not there is a deal for
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Speaker 8: the theory and whether or not he would sack that chat.
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Speaker 8: He could have answered with something like you know, if
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Speaker 8: it depends or maybe or I've had to look into that,
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Speaker 8: or there are circumstances that I'm not on top of
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Speaker 8: right now that I would have to get back to you.
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Speaker 8: So there are ways of answering that shows that, look,
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Speaker 8: he would like to answer, but he doesn't want to
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Speaker 8: answer in a way that you know, would get him
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Speaker 8: in trouble or the other person in trouble later on.
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Speaker 8: So I think there's a reason why he can answer.
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Speaker 8: The issue is that he's just giving you the same
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Speaker 8: response over and over again, and that's getting frustrating for
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Speaker 8: both of you, and obviously the listeners can probably share
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Speaker 8: their evasiveness going.
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Speaker 3: On absolutely, Thank you so much, Mike Lee, who I
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Speaker 3: think thinks I might be called Mike. It is five
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Speaker 3: eighteen NEWSTALKSB. Who is Mark Canney. He's come out like
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Speaker 3: a horse out of the gate. He's the new Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister of Canada. We'll talk about Matt Canney in the Modent.
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Speaker 1: News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 3: By twenty one, Canada has a new prime minister. His
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Speaker 3: name is Mac Canney and the Liberals love him. He
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Speaker 3: got eighty five percent of the vote and In his
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Speaker 3: acceptance speech, he promised to win the trade war.
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Speaker 7: My government will keep our tariffs on until the Americans
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Speaker 7: show us respect. But Canadians are always ready when someone
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Speaker 7: else drops the gloves. So any Americans, they should make
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Speaker 7: no mistake in trade. As in hockey, Canada will win.
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Speaker 3: I tink talk Washington. Bureac chief for The Guardian is
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Speaker 3: David Smith, who joins me now.
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Speaker 4: Hello, David, good morning.
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Speaker 3: So first, Matt Canney. Who is he? He's never been
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Speaker 3: elected before.
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Speaker 4: That's right, yeah, only a limited political background. He actually
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Speaker 4: started at Harvard University studying economics. He had thirteen years
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Speaker 4: at Goldman Sachs, so big financial resume. He became Governor
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Speaker 4: of the Bank of Canada and then for British people
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Speaker 4: like me, we became familiar with him as a governor
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Speaker 4: of the Bank of England and he was dealing with
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Speaker 4: the tumult of Brexit, Britain's departure from the European Union.
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Speaker 4: And then he went on to be a UN Special
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Speaker 4: Envoy for Climate Action and Finance, worked for an investment firm,
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Speaker 4: and it was just September of last year he became
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Speaker 4: the chair of Canadian Liberal Party's Task Force on economic growth,
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Speaker 4: and now suddenly he's the leader of the Liberal Party
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Speaker 4: and goings to the Canadian Prime Minister. So in that sense,
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Speaker 4: it's a meteoric rise after a long career mainly in
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Speaker 4: finance and banking.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but it's a magnificent CV, you have to say.
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Speaker 3: And he's coming with great confidence, you have to say
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Speaker 3: as well, because he went hard for Donald Trump right
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Speaker 3: from the start. So what's the reaction to that being.
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Speaker 4: Like, you know, it was striking the way Carne really
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Speaker 4: laid down the law in terms of his response to
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Speaker 4: Trump's tariffs and especially this strange notion Trump has been
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Speaker 4: floating of Canada becoming the fifty first state of the
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Speaker 4: US and Carlie made clear that is absolutely not going
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Speaker 4: to happen. And I would say, so far the reaction
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Speaker 4: in the US has been relatively muted, and perhaps that's
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Speaker 4: the biggest then insult of all they can throw at Canada.
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Speaker 4: You've not seen Trump unleashing a barrage of social media
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Speaker 4: posts or you know, not graciously welcoming the new leader.
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Speaker 4: And we haven't heard much from senators or representatives either.
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Speaker 4: Obviously this this news is being reported in the US media,
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Speaker 4: But yeah, there's actually not been a great deal of
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Speaker 4: political reactions so far, which which maybe tells you sadly
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Speaker 4: where where Canada US relations are and how it's not
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Speaker 4: seen as a as a huge priority in Washington.
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Speaker 9: No.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, this, this has seems to
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Speaker 3: be the way to actually approach Donald Trump. When he
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Speaker 3: does his bluster, you bluster him by.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And we've got this fascinating role call of world leaders
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Speaker 4: so far, all trying to figure out how do you
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Speaker 4: handle Donald Trump? And just for example, for a couple
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Speaker 4: of weeks ago, I was covering the visits of Immanuel
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Speaker 4: Macron of France and Kirs Starmer of Britain, and both
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Speaker 4: of them really used a carrot and stick. They gave
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Speaker 4: Trump a lot of flattery and people say, you know,
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Speaker 4: it's like giving candy to a child. And and then,
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Speaker 4: and obviously Kiir Starmer produced a letter inviting Trump for
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Speaker 4: a state visit with King Charles. But then on the
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Speaker 4: other hand, there were moments when both Macron and Starmer
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Speaker 4: stood up to Trump and corrected him on a shoes
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Speaker 4: such as European funding of the war in Ukraine. And
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Speaker 4: then of course we saw a very different approach from
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Speaker 4: President Zelenski of Ukraine challenging Trump and the JD Evans,
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Speaker 4: the Vice President in the Oval office, and that unraveled
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Speaker 4: and turned off a sour and ended up in a
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Speaker 4: in a shouting match. Then another example is the president
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Speaker 4: of Mexico has been has been firm with Trump, and
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Speaker 4: that seems to be working for her so far. We
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Speaker 4: also have to see how Carmey plays this and for example,
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Speaker 4: does he push back hard if Trump tries to call
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Speaker 4: him the governor, Yeah, applying that there should be an
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Speaker 4: American province. You know, he may early on want to
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Speaker 4: draw a line there and say, you know, no, do
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Speaker 4: not address me as that.
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Speaker 3: It's five twenty seven. So another poll, a couple of them, actually,
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Speaker 3: the Textpayer Courier poll. We also got research from Horizon
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Speaker 3: and all the stuff just says we're not happy with
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Speaker 3: the country right now. Therefore, We're not happy with the government,
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Speaker 3: no kidding, and things have not been good for a
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Speaker 3: while now. No matter who was in power, a correction
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Speaker 3: was needed. Economically, we swamp the nation with cash at
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Speaker 3: the start of the pandemic unnecessarily, we can now say
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Speaker 3: with hindsight, and then as we paid the price, it's
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Speaker 3: not be nice. So the government is going to be
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Speaker 3: on the back foot no matter who they are. I
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Speaker 3: actually think the surprising thing about this poll is how
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Speaker 3: well the coalition support is holding up. Sure Luxon has
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Speaker 3: his problem, Sure Seymour and Peters say the most triggering things,
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Speaker 3: knowing that there's a bunch of people who love it.
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Speaker 3: But are the opposition talking any sense at all? Are
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Speaker 3: they acting like they do any better? I went searching
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Speaker 3: for policy from Labor. Chris Hipkins over the weekend played
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Speaker 3: kg with his party's positions. When asked about the capital
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Speaker 3: gains tax, he prevaricated and then talked cryptically about tax reforms.
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Speaker 3: What does this mean? Is that what you're voting for?
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Speaker 3: That's about all the policy talk I can rustle up
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Speaker 3: from Labor. The Greens of the Bownary Party appear to
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Speaker 3: still be on holiday. So all this poll says is
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Speaker 3: that our blocks are evenly matched in tribal terms. And
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Speaker 3: the trick will be the swinging voters who vote, of
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Speaker 3: course for self interest, and they'll do that in eighteen
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Speaker 3: months time. So let's see what things are like in
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Speaker 3: eighteen months time. A poll at this time is like
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Speaker 3: some small talk at a party, but the party hasn't
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Speaker 3: even started yet, Dickens, I'd rather they didn't have polls
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Speaker 3: now in the midterm, and so we could just get
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Speaker 3: concentrated on the policies and figure out how we feel
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Speaker 3: and then see how many other people feel the way
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Speaker 3: we feel later when we get closer to the election.
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Speaker 2: But there we go.
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Speaker 3: You're loving Marc Conney. I have to say Trump finally
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Speaker 3: met his match, says the Texter won't bow down to
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Speaker 3: him exactly. Now it's all about India in the next
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Speaker 3: half hour. This is early edition and this is news
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Speaker 4: Hell you.
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Speaker 10: Already, So final good or to find well?
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Speaker 11: Good by?
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Speaker 12: Did to you?
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Speaker 3: Welcome to your Tuesday. I'm Andrew Dickins and for Ryan Bridge.
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Speaker 3: Ryan's back on the show and a month from today,
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Speaker 3: which means that Heather will be back in her show
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Speaker 3: a month from today. The Prime Minister, the Prome Minister,
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Speaker 3: is on his way to India to talk business.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 3: I hope he's got a very nice lightweight linen suit,
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Speaker 3: because India at the moment is hot. Summer in the
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Speaker 3: dry season starts in March. This year has come early.
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Speaker 3: The subcontinent is already sweltering. And I know this because
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Speaker 3: I know people in India at the moment. This past
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Speaker 3: weekend saw the Lolapalooza music festival come to Mumbai as
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Speaker 3: Western record companies realize there's a huge untapped market in India.
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Speaker 3: So people like Sure Mendias and Green Day were playing there.
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Speaker 3: And there's a New Zealand contingent there and they're posting
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Speaker 3: about the heat and the energy of the new India.
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Speaker 3: Apparently it's quite breathtaking. The place is booming. The kids
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Speaker 3: are kids, and they're into their rock and roll and
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Speaker 3: they're they're wealthy, and it is good that the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister is continuing our push into this booming economy. But
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Speaker 3: I've got a word of warning about India for the
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Speaker 3: New Zealand position, because our nuclear free stands does not
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Speaker 3: go down well in India. They have ambitions to be
19:15
Speaker 3: in the super Club of nuclear nations. So that's going
19:18
Speaker 3: to be a tricky road for the Prime Minister. But
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Speaker 3: I hope he's all ready to navigate it and I
19:22
Speaker 3: hope for great success. And we'll talk more about this
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Speaker 3: in about fifteen minutes time with the chair of the
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Speaker 3: Indian New Zealand Business Council. Did you know we only
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Speaker 3: export India is one point five percent of our exports.
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Speaker 3: That's nothing. Yet this is going to be the third
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Speaker 3: largest economy in the world very shortly. So that interview
19:40
Speaker 3: just before six o'clock. Got a text from Simon Already
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Speaker 3: who says, Andrew, we let India win the cricket so
19:48
Speaker 3: we should be quids in. That's great thinking. Twenty two
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Speaker 3: to six Andrew dickins, we're around the country right now,
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Speaker 3: and Callum Procter joins us from Duneedan Heller. Callum, morning, Andrew.
19:58
Speaker 3: The trial into the bus hub stabbing continues.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, the court has heard that the teen accused of
20:04
Speaker 13: murdering a sixteen year old had adopted gangster ways and
20:07
Speaker 13: the lead up to the fatal attack. The now fourteen
20:11
Speaker 13: year olds on trial here following the death of anner
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Speaker 13: Tana McLaren at the bus hub last May. He's pleaded
20:16
Speaker 13: not guilty on the basis of self defense. Forensic psychiatrist
20:21
Speaker 13: Brendan Strange told the court that the accused outlook changed
20:25
Speaker 13: drastically after being targeted in a violent robbery himself in
20:29
Speaker 13: twenty twenty three. Strange says that led him to watching
20:33
Speaker 13: fight videos and carrying a knife to feel safer, and
20:36
Speaker 13: the last of the evidence is expected to be presented tomorrow.
20:39
Speaker 3: How's her weather?
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Speaker 8: Rain?
20:41
Speaker 13: Heavy thundering with haile this afternoon, gale force southwesterlies and
20:45
Speaker 13: twenty one yikes.
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Speaker 3: Okay, clais Hereberd from CRASIA tell Claire, good morning. So
20:50
Speaker 3: the rebuild of the schools, that program is going to
20:52
Speaker 3: be completed by twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 14: Well, yes, finally we have a date, but this has
20:56
Speaker 14: been pushed out multiple times now, Andrew. As you know,
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Speaker 14: the christ Church School rebuild program was launched twelve years ago,
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Speaker 14: back in twenty thirteen. It was meant to finish in
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Speaker 14: twenty twenty. We now know that will be twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 14: The government spending one point six five billion dollars on
21:14
Speaker 14: repairing or rebuilding one hundred and fifteen quake impacted schools.
21:18
Speaker 14: News talks EDB can confirm one hundred of them have
21:21
Speaker 14: been refurbished or rebuilt. A further eleven are under construction,
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Speaker 14: three in the planning phase, one yet to even enter
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Speaker 14: the program. Education Minister Erica Stanford says it is making
21:31
Speaker 14: strong progress and eight projects are set to be completed
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Speaker 14: by the end of this year. She's laid out four
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Speaker 14: priorities to the ministry in order to ensure the projects
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Speaker 14: are delivered within her time frame.
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Speaker 3: How's your weather fine?
21:43
Speaker 14: Aside from some evening cloud later Northwesterlys, the high should
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Speaker 14: be twenty.
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Speaker 3: Five, Max told joins us from Wellington Hellimax.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: So a waterfront death found to be preventable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, every few years someone falls into the harbor and dies,
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Speaker 2: more often than not in time. Oxication is a primary cause,
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Speaker 2: and so every few years we debate waterfront safety and
22:05
Speaker 2: it's balanced with esthetics, the look of the waterfront. The
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Speaker 2: body of thirty year old Sandy Culkin was pulled from
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Speaker 2: the water in twenty twenty one. A new coroner's report
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Speaker 2: has found the city council had not heeded previous incidents
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Speaker 2: and warnings, and therefore that death could have been prevented.
22:22
Speaker 2: More recently, the council has been spending money installing fencing
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Speaker 2: around the water's edge. A lot of people have been
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Speaker 2: commenting thinking it looks ugly. A handful of councilors don't
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Speaker 2: like it either, but it's not their time right now.
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Speaker 2: Calcin had been on the night on a night out
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Speaker 2: with friends, had left Courtney Place, walked along the waterfront
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Speaker 2: heading for the train station. No one saw him fall
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Speaker 2: in in twenty twenty one, but at some point he
22:45
Speaker 2: must have stumbled or tripped or swayed into the water.
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Speaker 2: There's a bit of a drop off at several points,
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Speaker 2: as well of a couple of meters some rocky areas below.
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Speaker 2: The council also criticized in this coroner's report for really
22:56
Speaker 2: bad record keeping AI. It's not been noting accidents near
23:00
Speaker 2: missus or even how many deaths there have been. We
23:02
Speaker 2: rely on media archives.
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Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather?
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Speaker 2: It should be mostly fine, partly cloudy twenty one the
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Speaker 2: high central.
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Speaker 3: Good day for a walk on the waterfront. Keep away
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Speaker 3: from the edge. Now to awkam we Go Neiva Retamanu
23:15
Speaker 3: good morning. The people that Birkinghead will be happy because
23:18
Speaker 3: apparently AT wants to improve only one.
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Speaker 15: Road, correct, I tell you. So what's happening is that
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Speaker 15: they're proposing changes to this north shore road that everyone
23:26
Speaker 15: here in Auckland is probably well familiar with, including a
23:30
Speaker 15: shared path for pedestrian cyclists and e scooter users. Let's
23:35
Speaker 15: see how that goes. So it also wants to improve
23:37
Speaker 15: pedestrian crossing technology and also a Q detection system. Now
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Speaker 15: AT they're wanting feedback on this proposal for the road.
23:45
Speaker 15: This road obviously carries a lot thirty thousand vehicles a day.
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Speaker 15: Richard Hills, he's the local councilor. He says, look, it's
23:52
Speaker 15: important get this that AT and elected representatives. They're not
23:55
Speaker 15: the only ones making the decisions. So there you have it,
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Speaker 15: you'll say.
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Speaker 3: And move on to Lake Road. Please. Now how's Hawkin's weather?
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Speaker 15: Fine car developing this evening. We've got to high twenty
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Speaker 15: four today.
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Speaker 3: And I thank you. It is now seventeen minutes to six.
24:08
Speaker 3: We're off to Australia in a few moments time. Of course,
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Speaker 3: they've had the big floods that had the big rain.
24:12
Speaker 3: Of course, what happens next the insurance claims and already
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Speaker 3: this argi bardi about it. Donna Tomayo is next here
24:19
Speaker 3: on Newstalk's het.
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Speaker 1: B International Correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance, peace of
24:24
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
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Speaker 3: What's mistake with our trip to India? That story is
24:30
Speaker 3: just moments away. This is Newstalk's HEBB is a quarter
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Speaker 3: to six and we're joined by Donna Tomoro from Australia.
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Speaker 3: How are Donna, hey, hey, doing very good? We'll start
24:39
Speaker 3: with this fake terror plot and fourteen people arrested.
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Speaker 12: Yes, well, authorities were alerted to a tip off of
24:48
Speaker 12: a suspicious caravan at a rural property in your South Wales.
24:51
Speaker 12: This is in January and police discovered it was filled
24:55
Speaker 12: with both explosives and a note referencing the Great Jewish Sine.
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Speaker 12: Now we hear from the Australian Federal Police that they
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Speaker 12: were confident at the time, quite quite early on that
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Speaker 12: it was a fabricated terrorist plot. It's a little bit complex,
25:12
Speaker 12: but basically it was a criminal conjob, according to police,
25:16
Speaker 12: and it was an elaborate scheme contrived by organized criminals
25:19
Speaker 12: domestically and offshore. Basically they were trying to create leverage
25:26
Speaker 12: or leverage information to that's according to the Commissioner. Yes,
25:34
Speaker 12: it's the plot literally thickens so but the police have
25:38
Speaker 12: also said that regardless of the motivation of those responsible
25:40
Speaker 12: for the fake plot, it has had a chilling effect
25:43
Speaker 12: on the Jewish community. And we heard it was confirmed
25:46
Speaker 12: that fourteen arrests were made. They're facing forty nine charges
25:50
Speaker 12: these people. But police have also confirmed that the person
25:53
Speaker 12: alleged to have been pulling all the strings behind the
25:56
Speaker 12: plot has not yet been arrested.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting, and we have pologize for the Internet
26:01
Speaker 3: dropouts during that little bit. Let's move to another story.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister is criticizing insurance companies after the flooding.
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Speaker 12: Yes, well we know that there's been heavy rain, wild
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Speaker 12: winds and now flood damage from all since extropical cycling.
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Speaker 12: After cross the landfall across the weekend, the PM is
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Speaker 12: now saying that insurance companies are ripping off Australians and
26:25
Speaker 12: he says that in the wake of the extropical cycling,
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Speaker 12: now it's a chance for them to repair their reputations.
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Speaker 12: And so the PM says, yes, you know, he does
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Speaker 12: believe that insurance companies have plenty of money. They're ripping
26:37
Speaker 12: Australians off, and we know that there've been doubling premiums
26:41
Speaker 12: in recent years. In fact, there was an inquiry after
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Speaker 12: major flooding in Queensland and northern New South Wales in
26:47
Speaker 12: twenty twenty two, and what did it conclude? While there
26:50
Speaker 12: were too many insurance cases that were badly mishandled by insurers,
26:55
Speaker 12: that they inconsistently offered support, and that more than two
26:59
Speaker 12: years on many people still had been unable to go home.
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Speaker 12: So let's see what happens after this disaster.
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Speaker 3: Jnand Tomo, I thank you. It is now twelve to six.
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Speaker 3: So the Prime Minister's just announced he's off to India.
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Speaker 3: He's going on Saturday and he's going to meet Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister Noendra Modi. He's taking the largest delegation our Prime
27:20
Speaker 3: minister has ever traveled with. This is the first visit
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Speaker 3: since John Key went there in twenty sixteen. I think
27:25
Speaker 3: this is the third visit that we've had a crack
27:27
Speaker 3: at this. So Baratchala is the chair of the India
27:31
Speaker 3: New Zealand Business Council. He joins me, Now hell about it? Hey,
27:35
Speaker 3: Hell are you very good. Why is this trip so significant?
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Speaker 9: I think if you want something done with India, this
27:42
Speaker 9: would been a strong foundation taking ahead any discussion, any
27:45
Speaker 9: negotiation with India.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So look, only one point five percent of New
27:50
Speaker 3: Zealand exports go to India. India's on track to be
27:53
Speaker 3: the third largest economy in the world by twenty thirteen.
27:56
Speaker 3: Why have we been neglecting this market for so long?
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Speaker 9: I think this question has to be asked from a
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Speaker 9: lot of ministries and political diplomats. It has not been neglected.
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Speaker 9: It's just a timing was not there. I feel that
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Speaker 9: the last government with a lot less after twenty sixteen
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Speaker 9: and that has made us into a kind of a
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Speaker 9: back seat. But last twelve months with the current government
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Speaker 9: and the ministry is going left right center, which is
28:24
Speaker 9: kind of bringing the things on track. So we can
28:28
Speaker 9: say that we are late, but we are not too late.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
28:31
Speaker 3: So what do we have to do in this trip
28:34
Speaker 3: to make sure that our relationship is closer that we
28:36
Speaker 3: can increase our terms of trade.
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Speaker 9: I think one thing which we can say, or we
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Speaker 9: can kind of positive say that the meeting with Primnes
28:44
Speaker 9: Mode is kind of a big win, which we were
28:47
Speaker 9: at MCBC asking from last since a few years now
28:52
Speaker 9: getting to a with a bigger delegation show that we
28:55
Speaker 9: are in a relationship mode. We are not only in
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Speaker 9: a transitional mode. So this trip kind of gives a
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Speaker 9: very good message to inan government and the private companies
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Speaker 9: in India that Newism is open for business and we
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Speaker 9: should be looked into.
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Speaker 3: What do you think India wants from us? I mean,
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Speaker 3: what do we make that they will want?
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Speaker 9: I think the biggest thing India is looking currently is
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Speaker 9: investment in India at the same time bringing technology in
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Speaker 9: India and kind of bringing what they see that helped
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Speaker 9: to grow India. So currently in every negotiation and every
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Speaker 9: deal which India is doing, they've been always putting that
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Speaker 9: how India can grow together with you and that will
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Speaker 9: help us to grow or grow the other side of
29:38
Speaker 9: the business too. So what we can do is we
29:42
Speaker 9: take the investments we talk about the technology transfers. There's
29:46
Speaker 9: a lot needs and can give to India.
29:50
Speaker 3: Is a nuclear free stance a problem because India has
29:54
Speaker 3: ambitions for their place in the world militarily, they're already
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Speaker 3: a nuclear power. Is our stance on nuclear energy and power?
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Speaker 3: Is there a problem when we talk to the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister of India.
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Speaker 9: I think I don't see that is kind of an
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Speaker 9: issue with NISIM only because like every country has their
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Speaker 9: own chance and to be honest news and should say
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Speaker 9: what they be, what we want to do. But in
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Speaker 9: a couple of things, India also don't want any anything
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Speaker 9: which is from a news in perspective that they want
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Speaker 9: needs in to support on everything. But again at the
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Speaker 9: trade is one area we talk about. I said, a
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Speaker 9: nuclear diplomacy is separate area to work in. There's always
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Speaker 9: kind of a common area to start in. Uh and
30:36
Speaker 9: we are not too in that discussion of a kind
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Speaker 9: of nuclear diplomacy yet I can say that.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So how confident are you of success?
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Speaker 9: Finally, I think I think from my we are we
30:49
Speaker 9: are a lot positive, a lot optimistic. Now a lot
30:54
Speaker 9: have been done by a lot of companies from New
30:57
Speaker 9: Zealand to India or in India and last twenty four
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Speaker 9: months to make this happen. So this is a perfect
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Speaker 9: opportunity and a perfect I say that TAILWND for New
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Speaker 9: Zealand to get something from India.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Bartatala, I thank you so much for your town here.
31:12
Speaker 3: As the chair of the India and New Zealand Business Council,
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Speaker 3: and it is good to hear that both sides are
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Speaker 3: so keen to further the relationships with both sides. Mark
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Speaker 3: sent me a text saying, well, India's already in nuclear power.
31:23
Speaker 3: The best thing we can do is engage with the India.
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Speaker 3: More is actually to understand the diaspora, use them as
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Speaker 3: a bridge. And of course they are ten percent of
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Speaker 3: the Augan population. The average age of India, Mark says,
31:34
Speaker 3: and he's right is twenty eight. They're young, and they're thriving,
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Speaker 3: and they're ambitious. One point four billion people there.
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Speaker 9: Wow.
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Speaker 3: And Mark reckon is the way to think about India
31:43
Speaker 3: is Europe because there are many cultures of many climates,
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Speaker 3: but there is one country with a common story, set
31:49
Speaker 3: of values that can get on well with New Zealand.
31:52
Speaker 3: Thank you for your text, Mark newstorlks B. It is
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Speaker 3: seven to.
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Speaker 16: Been to India and never never been to India, ever
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Speaker 16: had a desire to go to India. No, not particularly really, well,
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Speaker 16: you talk to cricketers about it. But having said that,
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Speaker 16: really interesting thing I read the other day and you
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Speaker 16: talked about their population. People misunderstand their population. There's only
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Speaker 16: one hundred and twenty million people who have got any money.
32:23
Speaker 16: So they've just done the study the other day, and
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Speaker 16: there's what they would call, and Luxton referred to it
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Speaker 16: yesterday as the burgeoning middle class, and there's about four
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Speaker 16: or five hundred million of those, but they're very reluctant
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Speaker 16: to spend because they've never had any money and they
32:35
Speaker 16: don't know what to do with it. So there's one
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Speaker 16: hundred and twenty million people who are wealthy, and so
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Speaker 16: those are the people. Really that's just the size of Mexico.
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Speaker 16: So those are the people you're aiming for them, very
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Speaker 16: very wealthy, very very wealthy. And so the rich are
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Speaker 16: getting richer, and that middle class isn't necessarily growing, and
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Speaker 16: the ones that are growing don't know what to do
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Speaker 16: with their money, so they're what they call reluctant consumers.
32:54
Speaker 16: Which is not to say we shouldn't go to India
32:55
Speaker 16: and cross trade deal, but nevertheless, it's not quite as
32:58
Speaker 16: big as people make it out to be. And the
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Speaker 16: other thing, of course, is the reason we've never done
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Speaker 16: it properly is because they've got a major issue with
33:04
Speaker 16: agriculture and dairy and they don't want to do free
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Speaker 16: trade for obvious reasons. So I don't know what we're doing.
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Speaker 16: It also comes across against the backdrop, of course, at
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Speaker 16: the moment that free trades dead in the world, really,
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Speaker 16: and so we're doing That's why he was talking yesterday
33:18
Speaker 16: about doing more of a good trade deal. I don't
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Speaker 16: know who's opposed to a great one.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, actually Paige, but he's
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Speaker 3: in the music business. He's over there at the moment
33:26
Speaker 3: of Mumbai. He's gone over for a lot of palooza
33:28
Speaker 3: because of course now they're doing rocks festivals there because
33:31
Speaker 3: suddenly the middle class ones rock and roll. Well, he said,
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Speaker 3: the whole thing. The best thing about Mumbai was just
33:37
Speaker 3: how modern it was, how good it was, how organized
33:39
Speaker 3: it was, how lovely it was Pristine's city. But also
33:43
Speaker 3: it's extraordinarily hot.
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Speaker 16: That's about it. We're talking to the head of the
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Speaker 16: delegation to rees Walsh, Dame to rees Walsh, and so
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Speaker 16: I can't work out whether it's large just because India
33:54
Speaker 16: is large, or because you do that thing whereby you
33:56
Speaker 16: turn up with the whole planeload of people and go
33:58
Speaker 16: look at all the people we've brought.
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Speaker 3: Something about throwing stuff on a wall could be that.
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Speaker 16: So anyway, and wall sexy. It's not only who but
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Speaker 16: Prime Minister Tuesday very.
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Speaker 3: Good and I thank you, and I thank producer Kensey
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Speaker 3: for putting together the show and Tyler for setting it up.
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