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Clemency or Cover-Up? Lawmakers Clash Over Maxwell’s Future · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. Over the past day and a half or so,
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  the talk about Glaine Maxwell getting a pardon has really
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  ramped up, and according to James Comer, there are some
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  members of the committee that are in favor of Glene
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  Maxwell getting a pardon. And if you thought that this
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  committee was actually impaneled for justice, I'm sorry, but you
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  were wrong. And that's why I told you from the
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  beginning that this whole committee was nothing more than political theater.
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  The whole point was to protect Donald Trump at all costs,
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  no matter what. And if that means giving Glaye Maxwell
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  a pardon to protect Donald Trump, then that's what they're
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  gonna do. And all these vile sons of bitches that
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  are in support of it, they'll come out and they'll
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  rally around it. They'll come out and they'll give you
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  all kinds of rosy words and how Glaine Maxwell's gonna
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  help them out, all this crazy shit. But the truth is,
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  Ghlaine Maxwell has nothing to offer, nothing that doesn't incriminate her.
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  If Maxwell had anything of substance to offer, she would
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  have offered it up a long time ago, and Furthermore,
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  she's absolutely cooked as a witness. Say she gave them
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  some kind of evidence that they thought was actionable, and
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  say that they indicted somebody using that evidence. How do
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  you think that's going to hold up in court? When
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  Glenne Maxwell's in the box getting absolutely hammered. We all
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  know how that story ends, and these dirt bags in
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  Congress they know too. The truth is, though they don't care.
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  So today, in this episode, that's what we're talking about,
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  because if you want to see what route looks like,
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  you don't have to go digging through the old files.
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  Just watch what's happening right now. Watch elected officials, people
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  who swear up and down that they're there to hold
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  power accountable, just casually float the idea of pardoning Glainne
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  Maxwell like they're talking about tax policy. A pardon for
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  a while woman a jury already found guilty of helping
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  run a pipeline of abuse and taking part in that abuse. Yo.
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  That's not a slip of my tongue. That's not just
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  asking questions. That's a signal, and it's a disgusting one.
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  Because let's just rip the mask off this thing right now.
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  Maxwell wasn't some socialite who got caught in the wrong circle.
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  She wasn't standing in the corner pretending not to notice.
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  The conviction made it crystal clear. She participated, she recruited,
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  she facilitated, She helped build the machine, full stop. So
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  what the fuck? Kind of gutlass spineless political creature looks
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  at that and says, yeah, maybe we should let her walk.
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  I'll tell you the kind, the kind that's terrified, Terrified
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  of what she might know about Donald Trump, terrified of
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  who else she can point to, Terrified of how far
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  this thing actually goes if it stops being strangled in
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  its crib right now. Because that's what this is. Don't
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  kid yourself. It's not about mercy. Nobody's losing sleep over
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  her can nditions. Nobody suddenly discovered a conscience about sentencing.
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  That's a joke. This is about containment, same disease, same symptoms.
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  We've been watching from the start. Delay it, muddle it,
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  lose the record, shrug your shoulders, tell everyone it's complicated,
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  tell everyone to move on. And when that doesn't work,
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  when people keep asking questions you don't want to answer,
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  you escalate, you don't expose more, you shut it down,
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  and nothing shuts it down cleaner than a pardon, because
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  a pardon doesn't let someone out of prison. It slams
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  the brakes on everything that could come next. No leverage,
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  no pressure, no incentive to talk. Case closed, story buried.
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  Everybody gets to excel and pretend this nightmare somehow just
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  resolved itself. That's the play, and the fact that it's
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  being floated out loud in the open tells you how
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  bold this is gotten. They're not even hiding the instinct anymore.
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  They're testing how far they can go before people snap.
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  And well, maybe she deserves it, maybe it's time to
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  move forward. Maybe the system got it wrong. No, no,
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  it didn't. A jury sat there and listened to what
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  she did, not rumors, not internet garbage, actual testimony, actual victims,
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  and they said guilty, not adjacent, not questionable, guilty. So
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  fucking spare me the performance, because when you start talking
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  about pardoning someone like that, you're not correcting a miscarriage
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  of justice, you're creating one. You're telling every victim that
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  none of it mattered. You're telling every person watching that
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  if the right names are attached, the rules bend, and
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  more than anything, you're telling the truth to sit down,
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  shut up, and die quietly in the corner. But here's
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  the problem. They're not dealing with a quiet story. They're
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  dealing with a fuse that never burned out. And every
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  time they try something like this, every time they reach
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  for the nuclear option to protect whatever is left standing
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  behind her, they don't calm it down. They the poor
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  gasoline on it. Because people aren't blind, they see exactly
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  what this is. Not oversight, not justice, certainly not reform.
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  What they see is a last ditch, desperate move to
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  keep the lid on something that was never supposed to
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  be fully uncovered in the first place. And if they
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  think a pardon is going to make this go away,
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  well they're about to find out just how wrong they are.
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  Today's article is from Politico and the headline Oversight members
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  split over whether to pardon Glainne Maxwell. Committee chair says
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  this article was authored by Hailey Fuchs. Members on the
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  House Oversight and Government Reform Committee are divided over whether
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  President Donald Trump should pardon Jeffrey Epstein's convicted co conspirator,
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  Ghlaine Maxwell in exchange for her cooperation in the Panels.
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  Epstein investigation Chair James Comer said in an interview on Wednesday.
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  What an absolute fucking joke her help for the panel?
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  What is she going to tell them? What exactly is
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  she going to say that's going to hold up in court? Remember,
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  she can say whatever she wants. It's about actionable evidence
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  that can be used to get convictions. And if that
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  doesn't occur, then she's worthless as a witness. And even
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  if she was to give them that information, like I
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  was saying, she's already cooked as a Juror would you
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  listen to a word she had to say? I know
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  I wouldn't. Maxwell, who was deposed by the Oversight Committee
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  as the sole convicted accomplice in the Epstein sex trafficking scheme,
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  previously invoked her Fifth Amendment right in declining to answer
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  the panel's questions. Her lawyer has said that she would
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  only speak if granted clemency of power available solely to Trump,
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  who has not ruled out the prospect of a pardon. Well,
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  even if he does do that, remember what I talked
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  about early on dual sovereignty, and what dual sovereignty is
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  is the state has the ability to try people for
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  crimes even if they were pardoned on a federal level.
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  So the State of New York could open a case
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  into Glenn Maxwell if she was pardoned, and go after
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  her at the state level. SAM in New Mexico. The
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  only place where she might be protected is in Florida,
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  and that's because of the ridiculous SNPA that should have
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  never been given to Jeffrey Epstein. When asked whether he
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  believed it was a favorable deal to issue a pardon
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  in return for Maxwell's testimony, Comer said, a lot of
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  people do. My committee split on that, he added, declining
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  to name who on the panel supported granting a pardon.
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  I don't speak for my committee. YO, put names to it.
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  Don't be cowards. Put your name to it. If the
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  GOP wants to pardon Glainn Maxwell champion that shit, don't
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  do it behind closed doors. Don't try and sneak it
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  in debate it. Let the American people hear both sides
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  of the story, and then let the American people decide
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  what they think. If you think the American people are
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  going to be down with Glen Maxwell getting a pardon,
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  you have a whole less other thing coming and you
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  have not been paying attention. And if you think that
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  your boys fired up now let them give Glenn Maxwell
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  a pardon and then watch the fire and brimstone content
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  rain down around them. Colmer himself wasn't in favor. Oh no,
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  of course not. Colmer's just above board, what a great guy.
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  Absolute clown, doesn't care about anybody but himself and Donald Trump,
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  of course. And it's amazing that comer can even speak
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  without deeply he's gargling Donald Trump's nuts. I think it
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  looks bad, he said, honestly, other than Epstein, the worst
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  person in this whole investigation is Maxwell. Well, he's not
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  wrong about that. Maxwell's an absolute animal, and what he
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  did to those girls and those women unconscionable. And when
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  you look at the evidence and you listen to the testimony,
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  it's wild to me that these christ dis king types
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  are so willing to give somebody like Lane Maxwell a pardon.
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  I mean, they probably want to get her on the
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  podcast circuit, right, maybe have her as Dan Bongino's co host.
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  Representative Robert Garcia of California, the oversight panel's top Democrat,
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  emphasized that the committee democrats unanimously opposed a pardon for Maxwell.
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  That would be a huge step backwards and quite frankly
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  so disrespectful to the survivors, he said in an interview.
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  She is a known abuser, she is a known lier,
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  and that's really what it comes down to. What exactly
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  are you going to use her for now? Look, if
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  Glaine Maxwell was going to provide the key that took
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  down the international banking cartel, cool, I'm all in. But
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  we know that's not the case. And we know that
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  the whole entire thing is being scripted and being built
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  for one purpose to protect Donald Trump and Donald Trump's friends.
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  That's it. If the DOJ or the oversight Republicans are
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  out there trying to negotiate he ate some sort of pardon,
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  that is not only a huge slap in the face
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  to the investigation, to anyone, to the American public, it's
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  also a part of a massive cover up bingo. That's
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  what's going on. And boy, if they give her a pardon,
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  that's the exclamation point behind the cover up. And there's
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  no denying yet at that point. Pressure has been mounting
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  on the Justice Department to pursue new prosecutions in the
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  Epstein case, particularly after the United Kingdom arrested Andrew mount
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  Batton Windsor formerly known as Prince Andrew and former Ambassador
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  Peter Mandelsson for crimes related to their association with the
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  disgraced financier. The Oversight Committee probe's work has been complicated
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  by the fact that Maxwell is unwilling to answer questions
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  and the central figure, Epstein, died behind bars years ago. Bullshit.
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  Stop Only people who don't know the story talk like this.
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  Glenn Maxwell has nothing left to offer, Okay, besides maybe
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  some dirt on Donald Trump and his buddies. Nothing left offer.
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  Let her rotten prison. Maxwell's lawyer, David Oscar Marcus, told
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  Politico in an extended interview last month that he believed
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  there was a good chance his client would ultimately be
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  pardoned by the president. Marcus said he reached out to
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  then Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche last year to help
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  facilitate Maxwell's interview with the Department of Justice. She was
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  granted limited immunity for the two day conversation and moved
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  to a minimum security prison camp shortly afterward. Cover up.
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  The whole thing's to cover up, and it's all being
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  orchestrated by Donald Trump. So all the people out there
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  that are so gung ho on getting Trump. This is
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  what you should be focused on. Forget all the other bullshit,
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  all the other nonsense. This is where it's at. You
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  want meating potatoes, I'm giving it to you. Whether you
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  eat it or not, that's up to you. In her
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  interview with Blanche, she emphasized that she had not seen
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  Trump engage in propriety with Epstein. Well, she said Epstein
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  never engaged in impropriety either. She also lied about Prince Andrew.
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  She also lied about Jess Dalley. She also lied about
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  Virginia Roberts. She also lied about Annie Farmer, all verifiable lives.
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  So what are we even doing right here? And why
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  is this conversation even taking place? Besides the fact that
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  they hate you and they don't respect you, The President's
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  relationship with Epstein has been the source of much intrigue,
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  as Trump is maintained the two out of falling out
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  years ago. Garcia said the Oversight Committee should investigate why
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  and how Maxwell was moved to a different facility. After
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  her interview with Blanche, well, how long have I been
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  calling for that? And finally they're catching up. Well that's cool.
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  Maybe they're listening. And if you're listening, forget all this nonsense.
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  Forget all the arguing, forget all the back and forth,
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  and forget counting on the DOJ to do the right thing.
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  So there's only one option left to us, Special counsel
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  Or Plus. All the information that goes with this episode
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