Latest / Come Together with Ephraim Herschmann / #111: Chaim Rutenberg / Beef Up Our Boys
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- 0:01Welcome to another episode of Come Together
- 0:15and we're live with Climb Ruberg.
- 0:17Welcome. What's going on?
- 0:18Beef up our boys. How you doing?
- 0:23I'm doing great. Thanks so much.
- 0:24I so bet, so Vincey Race reached out to me just a couple of days
- 0:28ago. I was in Israel maybe 2-3 weeks
- 0:30ago. I had to stop and visit Mr.
- 0:32Race, of course. And and he, and then, you know,
- 0:36he and I were schmoozing about the podcast.
- 0:37We were talking about, you know, the type of conversations that
- 0:40we have. And he said to me, you know,
- 0:42whenever I think of anyone, I'll let you know.
- 0:44And like 3 days later or maybe 3 or 4 days later, he he said, you
- 0:48forwarded me your the most recent recording.
- 0:51I think that you just did recently, right?
- 0:54Yeah, could be with schmoozing time.
- 0:56Yeah, that one, yeah. So he said that one to me and he
- 0:59was like, I think you should, I think you guys should get in
- 1:00touch and then next thing I knew, here we are recording.
- 1:03So I'm I'm so happy. To do this looking forward,
- 1:07unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:09So you want to start with, tell me a little about who you are.
- 1:12You want to start telling me about Beef Up Our Boys?
- 1:14What do you want to start with? I like to start with like the
- 1:18the spirit of things, you know, like, OK, let's do that.
- 1:21Some really, really magical times we're in sometimes where
- 1:25the, the, they say that the end of days is where the, the, and
- 1:29it's where really IAI is coming in, where the, the generation of
- 1:33knowledge where all the garbage falls apart and human connection
- 1:37is all that stands. And that's really where we're
- 1:40getting there. And, and we realized that under
- 1:44God, there really is no true objective truth.
- 1:49It's all about how we subjectively view the world and
- 1:52how we process things. And, and really like we say in
- 1:56the, in the Torah, we say the Bible, we say, who's the wise
- 1:59person? Hello, men, we call it the
- 2:02person who learns from all people.
- 2:04That's real wisdom. And we're getting so close to
- 2:07that day where we like, if you want to sound professional, AI
- 2:11is doing it for you. If you want to still look cool,
- 2:15you got a filter for that too. If you want to have friends,
- 2:18they got that too. So what's genuine, what's real?
- 2:21It's what's in our hearts, how we connect one-on-one in a
- 2:24conversation. That really freaks me out, by
- 2:27the way, because I've been thinking a lot about all this
- 2:29stuff and one of the freakiest things is how difficult it's
- 2:33going to become to discern reality from not reality, you
- 2:37know, and at a certain point, you're not going to know with
- 2:39anything that you're engaging, anything that you're engaging
- 2:41with will be real or not, you know, And like, how do you know?
- 2:46And I mean, I like the, I like your positive spin on it, but
- 2:49what's, how do you, what's your explanation for that?
- 2:53Well, this is of course an AI driven podcast.
- 2:55I've you booked it through an AI agent that reached out to you.
- 3:01So I'm not even, I'm not even, I'm super real.
- 3:04I'm AI real. And it's, it's, it's really the
- 3:13answer is the way God made it. We're two people talking to each
- 3:18other and, and people listening in on that.
- 3:20And that's who we are. We're real, we're genuine and,
- 3:24and it's a world where that becomes the most precious
- 3:26commodity is is genuine connection.
- 3:29Yeah, Yeah, I think we're seeing that now.
- 3:31I think we're seeing that because, you know, and I get,
- 3:35and also earlier what you were saying in terms of AI having all
- 3:38this knowledge compressed into such a simple tool that's so
- 3:42easy to access, you know, the only like once information
- 3:46becomes universal, it makes it even more clear that
- 3:50authenticity is not universal and being genuine is not
- 3:53universal. And that's something that I
- 3:55think at least part of what, you know, I've noticed living in
- 3:59America. And I was, you know, as opposed
- 4:00to when I was just in Israel, even in Europe, I was in
- 4:02Amsterdam and Barcelona, you know, it felt totally, it just
- 4:06felt like people's ability to relate to one another in America
- 4:11at least has just is just totally, totally plummeted.
- 4:15And it's, it's kind of scary, but it's also, it's also
- 4:19comforting to travel and see that it's not everywhere in the
- 4:21world. That's where that's kind of what
- 4:27I believe makes Israel special, is that we're we represent so
- 4:32much of the world and so much of different peoples from all over
- 4:35the world. Like what kind of what, what I
- 4:38felt really until doing this project is that what made us
- 4:42unique, what made us Jewish, what made us Israeli is, is our
- 4:45Jewish and Israeli identity. But in doing this project and
- 4:48interfacing with so many, so many people, I've, I've realized
- 4:53that it's so much more. And there's there's genuine
- 4:56feeling all around the world and there's love for Israel and love
- 5:00for genuine human connection and similar struggles and
- 5:06inspiration everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:10So you want to tell me a little about the company, about beef up
- 5:15our boys, how it got started and then we kind of walk away from
- 5:18there? So it's a great segue by the
- 5:22way, because kind of where what beef up our boys is, is the
- 5:26answer. And when you see so much
- 5:31destruction, and it's not just destruction, it's like this
- 5:37universal feeling or a local feeling we got in Israel, or I
- 5:41got at least that the world was, was like, if I could speak
- 5:46freely, was like going to pot. Like things are falling apart.
- 5:50And, and when you hear things and see things and you hear
- 5:54people basically accusing you of genocide, accusing you of hate,
- 5:59accusing you of, of representing so many destructive things.
- 6:04And then on the inside it's true.
- 6:06You're just honest and sincere and you I've had the opportunity
- 6:10to interface with hundreds of thousands of soldiers.
- 6:13I mean, not directly, but indirectly and thousands of
- 6:15soldiers directly. And they're all just sweet.
- 6:18They're I just today I saw, I happened to see some, some of
- 6:23the most advanced guys. These are guys who go into
- 6:25tunnels and they detonate a bomb going in there and they lay
- 6:29another charge while they're in there and deep behind enemy
- 6:32territory. They, they don't even have their
- 6:34dog tags with them. They take off all their labels.
- 6:38These are the guys who went into Lebanon months before the war to
- 6:41lay charges. Like we're talking about them as
- 6:43most advanced guys. And you meet them, they're just
- 6:46nice. There's no hate in their eyes.
- 6:48There's no one they want to kill.
- 6:50There's no manifesto of, of some, you know, Jewish identity
- 6:56hate or something. Or it's just it's just good
- 7:00people wanting to protect each other and and fight evil.
- 7:04And that's the energy behind Beef up our boys is how can I
- 7:07help the desire to help in October 7th hit and the world
- 7:15shook. And when the world shakes, you
- 7:18got to say, well, what's I'm under threat, fight or fright
- 7:22and and what's fighting? Fighting is doing good.
- 7:24It's connecting, it's being part of the positive energy and and I
- 7:28believe a lot in prayer and beef up our boys was about the answer
- 7:32to a prayer to help. How can I help?
- 7:35How can I help? And if you see the need and
- 7:40you're you see the opportunity and you find something that no
- 7:47one else is doing that needs to get done, you do it.
- 7:52And if one person needs it, everyone needs it.
- 7:55And what happened was my nephew got in touch with us.
- 8:00He was in like a pillbox overlooking Lebanon.
- 8:03And the Lebanese army couldn't know where he was.
- 8:07And they, if I could say that maybe I have to call them
- 8:09Hezbollah, whoever they were fighting in Lebanon territory
- 8:14looking for Jews, looking for Israeli soldiers.
- 8:17And so he was only able to get food back packed into him.
- 8:21And what kind of portable high protein food is available on the
- 8:26kosher market? Some stack bars, not much tuna.
- 8:31Cans of tuna, historically. So what do these types of
- 8:35soldiers throughout the world, what type of food are they
- 8:38eating? And they're eating dried meat.
- 8:42It's one of the gifts is that. Is that the case?
- 8:43Is that the case? That's the case that strike
- 8:46first forces. I'm sure some of your audience
- 8:48may be listening to that. That's what they they carry is
- 8:51dried meat. We call it beef jerky.
- 8:52It's other types of processed dried meat or pure dried meat.
- 8:56And, and it's, it's just like, it's like a gift, like we say in
- 8:59our prayers that, that God after we eat our grace after meals,
- 9:03that God provides food for all living creatures.
- 9:06And you think about the protein that's available all over the
- 9:09world, whether it's seafood or grasshoppers or animals.
- 9:13And in Part 1 of the things you have when you deal with the
- 9:16kosher laws is that especially when it comes to meat, it's got
- 9:21to be slaughtered a certain way. It's got to be treated the most
- 9:24humane fashion. Now you take, that's been one of
- 9:29the challenges. You take beef and you dry it.
- 9:33And that's what soldiers have eaten for millennia.
- 9:36That's what they ate. They dried their beef, they
- 9:38dried meat or fish, and then it lasts forever.
- 9:43And that's an art. Beef jerky actually started for
- 9:47millennia. For millennia, soldiers have
- 9:50been eaten, travellers have been eating dried, dried meat, dried
- 9:54fish, dried fruit. It's part of the nature of food
- 9:58that you take out the liquid, then it lasts.
- 10:02And that's an art that American Civil War was, that's really
- 10:07where beef jerky was really created.
- 10:09During that period of time, the American Indians had some
- 10:12variation of it. So it's it's like it's critical.
- 10:16Troops need food, Army travels on their stomach.
- 10:19And when you're dealing with soldiers who go to remote
- 10:24locations, you're dealing with people who go to the most.
- 10:27Like when when you think of, let's say, Gaza right now,
- 10:31there's areas there where there's roads and there's our
- 10:34Israeli army bases and there's units that have taken over and
- 10:37secured the area. But who goes and secures that
- 10:40area? These are some of the most elite
- 10:43units they'll go in there and whatever they could carry on
- 10:47their back, they'll take one building, secure it, take the
- 10:50next building, secure it. Eventually they secure the
- 10:51street. Then a convoy can show up with
- 10:54food for those you create a first critical days.
- 10:58Your food army ration food is is critical.
- 11:03And so knowing that now I get it.
- 11:08Beginning of the war and nephew was hungry 97 guys, he was cold
- 11:14and I told my brother, let's get some jackets for them.
- 11:16Let's get some beef jerky for them.
- 11:17My wife said my son Ezra heats low carb and when he goes on
- 11:22trips, he takes beef jerky with him because you need a meal.
- 11:27It's a meal on the go. So, So what did he do?
- 11:31So we got we got my nephew some beef jerky.
- 11:35No one had it. We found some vendors that had
- 11:37it and I literally I'm like, if he needs it, this is my job, I'm
- 11:40doing it. So I called a few vendors up.
- 11:42I said, how many packages can you make in a day?
- 11:45Thousand packages. Found three vendors said 1000
- 11:48packages. What's the price at that volume?
- 11:50How quickly can you scale to there?
- 11:53Within two days, we had 150 packets of beef jerky, had 97
- 11:56jackets, drove it up north, closed military zones.
- 12:00I meet up with his logistics officer, whose job is to bring
- 12:03them food and whatever else they need.
- 12:06He sees the jackets. He's like, these jackets aren't
- 12:08warm enough. We're all the way like so far
- 12:10north, we need something warmer. He sees the beef jerky.
- 12:13He's scared. There's a mountain too, right?
- 12:15On the Lebanon border, yeah, it's gorgeous up there, really
- 12:18beautiful. And I gave.
- 12:20Him. It's mountainous.
- 12:21He gets cold tonight. Yeah, cold.
- 12:25And this Russell, this was October.
- 12:26October is right before the winter, so you need you need
- 12:30waterproof and you need to be prepared.
- 12:33These guys aren't moving around a lot.
- 12:34They're just sitting there and hunkered down in a pill box.
- 12:38So he saw the beef jerk. He said this is perfect.
- 12:42What happens is I take the jackets.
- 12:45The big northern basin is rough. And underneath the jackets
- 12:50happened to be a few packs of beef jerkies.
- 12:52I gave them to try it like you got.
- 12:54They're like, they couldn't believe it.
- 12:56This is meat, this is portable, this is protein.
- 12:58It's tasty. It's this is wow, they couldn't
- 13:01believe it. And by the time I got back to
- 13:04the center of the country, the head of logistics for like
- 13:06150,000 soldiers said, I have two units, each one wants 1000
- 13:12packages emergency. So now you're a civilian with a
- 13:19request. Yeah, I mean, I guess one of the
- 13:26one of the beauties of being in Israel is that you're never just
- 13:29a civilian. You know, you always feel like
- 13:31you're extended family or your cousin or your brother or
- 13:33whatever, you know. And I think that that that gives
- 13:36you a different sense of responsibility when it comes to
- 13:38stepping up as opposed to just being a fellow citizen or
- 13:41another civilian or not. You know, like you almost feel
- 13:43like you're, you're only a degree or two related from
- 13:46anyone in the Army, you know, almost any given point.
- 13:50That is so true, and you never know.
- 13:52Sometimes, like the most advanced people in the Army,
- 13:55they are the sweetest people. They're the most regular looking
- 13:59people that you never guess. You'd never guess.
- 14:03And that's really if you think about what the responsibility of
- 14:06an advance unit is. It's determination.
- 14:10It's consistency. It's not the guy who can carry
- 14:14200 lbs. Not that these guys aren't
- 14:16tough, but it's the resilience. It's that you're not afraid
- 14:20under fire. You're going to withstand,
- 14:23you're going to withstand under pressure.
- 14:25These are guys who are legit. They they don't waste a second
- 14:28and they don't carry something with them that they don't need.
- 14:32And when they say this is something I need, this makes a
- 14:36difference to me, you do it. These are guys who they go in.
- 14:42I've had many guys. We would send them beef jerky
- 14:45every week, every two weeks. And these are guys who went into
- 14:51Gaza and they didn't come out for 90 days or six months, not
- 14:55once. They didn't go home once because
- 14:58they're so advanced. They're doing such tactical work
- 15:02in the most crazy places. It's incredible.
- 15:11I mean, it's crazy. So how'd you do that?
- 15:14How'd you fill that order? When you get that order and you
- 15:17get that and you get that, like what's logistically, what's
- 15:19going through your mind? How do you make it happen?
- 15:21So what's going through my mind is I'll do whatever it takes.
- 15:28I'll slaughter the cow, I'll do whatever it takes.
- 15:30You know, I'll do whatever it takes.
- 15:32And it's, it's part of what it is also is that if you realize
- 15:37that you got the request because it's your opportunity to fill
- 15:42the request. And that's something that's wild
- 15:45to me is that every single person that I've interacted
- 15:49with, they interacted with me because in some capacity, they
- 15:56were part of me filling my mission.
- 15:59And it's not just me filling my mission.
- 16:02It's the soldiers on the front line, it's the logistics
- 16:05officers filling their mission. It's the nation.
- 16:08It's the international community that understands that Israel is
- 16:12at the front lines of the war of the future, the historical war
- 16:17between good and evil, between society that just wants to live
- 16:24and help each other no matter who you are.
- 16:27And society that says that we are back in the Middle Ages and
- 16:32I need to kill you. I need to subjugate you to get
- 16:35what I want. We all know you don't.
- 16:38You don't beat your wife, God forbid, in order for her to to
- 16:43have a relationship with you. That's not a healthy
- 16:46relationship. That's not how people react.
- 16:50It's not acceptable. October 7th was not acceptable.
- 16:55And fighting that is our job, it's our mission.
- 17:00And anything you do, if you can be there, you fight.
- 17:03If you can't fight, you feed. If you can't feed, you support.
- 17:07If you can't support, you pray. If you can't pray, it's in your
- 17:12heart. And so how do we do it?
- 17:17How do we do it? How do we deliver beef up our
- 17:20boys over 100,000 packages of beef jerky.
- 17:25You go on beef up ourboys.com message to our soldiers, you'll
- 17:28see hand decorated samples of bags that kids all over the
- 17:33world don'ts all over the world personalized.
- 17:36They were sent directly to combat units.
- 17:39That's beautiful. Just today.
- 17:41Just today, myself and some volunteers, we packaged about
- 17:47400 something packages of beef jerky straight into combat
- 17:52units. We had a guy or someone
- 17:55requested one guy who makes barbecues.
- 17:57He's like the unit we were supposed to make a BBQ for in
- 18:00Syria Said for logistical reasons, quote UN quote, we
- 18:03can't make him a BBQ. But they want the food, they
- 18:07need the energy, they need that. Love a package of beef jerky in
- 18:12a personalized bag. Bam, you just delivered, not.
- 18:17Just the operations process like what's the operations look like?
- 18:20How do you do? How do you do?
- 18:21So you, you have do you, do you, do you have a supplier?
- 18:24Do you get it from anywhere? Do you, do you make it yourself?
- 18:27How does it? How does it work?
- 18:28So the story from the beginning was sure we did.
- 18:33Delivered 150 packages, got requested for 1500.
- 18:36Where'd you get 100? So this was this.
- 18:39The 100 original 150 packages were just a collection of of of
- 18:44of beef jerky from different places.
- 18:45So primarily from two sources, there's a company in Jerusalem,
- 18:50Butcher's Cut, that make charcuterie, fancy meat boards.
- 18:55If you're making a beautiful event on a rooftop in Jerusalem
- 18:58in the summer, and what are you serving people?
- 19:02What are you serving? You need, you want to have
- 19:05quality meat that tastes good, finger food that doesn't go bad,
- 19:12a fancy beef jerky board, $1000 beef jerky board.
- 19:16Boom. Yeah.
- 19:19And, and so I reached out to them and within like 5 minutes
- 19:23they had put on their website sponsor beef jerky for the
- 19:26soldiers. They sent out a request to their
- 19:29clientele. Within they had about $1000 /
- 19:32100 packages reduced and paid for.
- 19:36Right there was amazing. There's one company.
- 19:38There was another group of people and locally and but
- 19:41chillers that make like beef jerky as like bootleg beef jerky
- 19:46kind of thing. You know, you make it in your
- 19:48bathtub, little liquor, you make beef jerky in your kitchen, like
- 19:51and they sell it. Some of it's great, some of it's
- 19:54good, some of it's interesting. And I threw them.
- 19:58I was like, I went on this, this group, the synagogue group.
- 20:02I'm like. It's like a hippie synagogue
- 20:04called Carbach Jewel. Like who makes beef jerky?
- 20:08Like 10 people said they do. They're all threw more into a
- 20:10group. One guy brought it in from South
- 20:12Africa. One guy makes it this time.
- 20:14Finally, one person says I do it as a business.
- 20:18I'm like, great, how many can you make in a day?
- 20:21They said 1000. What's the price?
- 20:22They gave me a price. How many can you make right now
- 20:24for the next three days? They said like 100.
- 20:27They had like 50 fun. So I had 150 pack or 54
- 20:30packages, whatever it was deliver.
- 20:33That was Sunday night. That was like the 15th Monday.
- 20:39I picked it up Tuesday morning, 6:00 in the morning, I delivered
- 20:42it. I got the request for 2000.
- 20:45OK, yeah. What do?
- 20:45You do with that? That's crazy.
- 20:47Emergency, emergency. We got a beef jerky emergency.
- 20:53So what do you do? Like, And I realized it's food.
- 20:56It's portable food. It's the food that the soldiers
- 20:59have all over the world that they don't have in Israel.
- 21:03So I told these people, I said in Jerusalem, but I said,
- 21:07listen, I'm going to start raising funds.
- 21:09We got this logo, beef up our boys with the finger and the
- 21:12Israeli flag like we need you. And we came up with this name
- 21:16for beef jerky. Yeah, and beef up our boys.
- 21:21It's like bring energy to our boys and connect them.
- 21:24Tonight we got connected with the charity 5O1C3 Israeli
- 21:28charity. Boom, done.
- 21:30Open the cause match page. Cause match slash Beef up our
- 21:32boys. Does it take a day or two?
- 21:34Even less. It took it was a merit within
- 21:36like 1/2 hour. OK, gotcha.
- 21:39Like everything happened like this.
- 21:40There's a designer, the lay Ruben.
- 21:42She does amazing work. She's very, very busy.
- 21:45She's like, OK, done, 'cause match.
- 21:48They're like, it's wartime. I was on the phone with the
- 21:50owner of the company, done, the charity done.
- 21:55I told the vendor, I said, listen, start making.
- 21:58I said, I told the vendor, just start making it.
- 22:01When I say go to the Max, you go to the Max.
- 22:03That means I funded it enough for you to make 1000 packages.
- 22:07So we started making it and the group of Beit Shemesh started
- 22:11making it. The the group of Beit Shemesh,
- 22:14they delivered about 500 packages, 600 packages by
- 22:19Thursday night. I was like, you know what, I'm
- 22:21going to put a blessing on the bag because this is wartime.
- 22:24You need blessings. Chaconian Vero, that everything
- 22:27comes from God. Everything's in God's word.
- 22:29Go and put it on the bag. I'm like, I got to put a beef up
- 22:32our boys logo on this. People know where they're
- 22:34getting it from. They can ask for more.
- 22:36I also realized, and this is kind of going into like, I don't
- 22:40want to sound negative, but I realized that if one person
- 22:45doesn't own it, it's not going to happen.
- 22:49There'll be 15 different campaigns.
- 22:50There'll be substandard stuff getting out there.
- 22:52One guy has got to say this is important.
- 22:55I'm going to buy you out. If you want to donate, you
- 22:58donate through me. I'm taking nothing and we're
- 23:01going all that. We're going to have the best.
- 23:02We're doing it. And I did that, thank God.
- 23:06And we had within by Thursday night, we had 500 packages in
- 23:12the local group and like shoot people.
- 23:15Our parents were coming to my house picking up bags.
- 23:18My son doesn't eat fish. He's a commander in a unit.
- 23:22Can I get a few bags for him? My son's hungry.
- 23:24This is ready. Two weeks into the war almost
- 23:27people are finally able to deliver to different places in
- 23:30the country. He's starving.
- 23:32They need this. Like the requests were insane.
- 23:35Like I from the way beginning, I've always waiting for someone
- 23:37to say, boom, you mean you're doing this?
- 23:41How much do you need? I'm I'm letting you go to the
- 23:43Max. I was always waiting from the
- 23:45way beginning someone to write, to write the big checks and to
- 23:48be doing 3000 packages just a day, which is 30 grand a day.
- 23:51I never got there though, but we did OK, but not like I wanted
- 23:55like I hoped not like they need whatever you're can't can't
- 24:00harbor on what what wasn't. But there's always opportunity
- 24:04to do more and you feel bad you didn't do more.
- 24:06I feel bad you do more. So they I sent up so Friday
- 24:11morning, so Thursday night we got a delivery at 2:00 in the
- 24:15morning of like 700 packages from butchers cut in Jerusalem.
- 24:20And I, I got these stickers with the blessings on it.
- 24:23And my son, my nephew, the two delivery drivers at 2:00 in the
- 24:29morning till 5:30, put stickers on bags, put the blessing and
- 24:34the beef up our boys stickers on the bags. 6:00 in the morning, I
- 24:38drove up north with this Army base, dropped it off, ended up
- 24:41meeting like Rambo, like literally this guy's like, I
- 24:44can't have my picture taken even with my face covered.
- 24:47My son accidentally took a picture of like, you got to
- 24:49delete the picture. You can't even have it on the
- 24:51phone. We're like, we're like, you
- 24:53know, you know, we're delivering something they don't have.
- 24:56We're given access that we shouldn't necessarily have
- 24:59because we're, we're like, we're part of their effort.
- 25:01We're with them. Yeah.
- 25:03And so fine went into the Shabbos, the second week of the
- 25:07war. Things are calming down.
- 25:08We're nervous. We're scared because we saw what
- 25:11was going on in the north. We saw what Hezbollah was
- 25:13prepared to do. And Iran, we saw the this like,
- 25:16thank God things have developed slowly where Israel was able to
- 25:20kind of beat their enemy before they got to us.
- 25:23But we were scared the first second week of the war that Iran
- 25:26was going to get involved and Hezbollah would get involved
- 25:28with the borders and everything and seven fronts in one minute.
- 25:32It could have been insane, could have been insane.
- 25:34But thank God, you know, God's in charge of things.
- 25:37And Saturday night I get a call. Saturday night I get a call.
- 25:44This guy tells me that I had, he had taken a few 100 bags down
- 25:48into Gaza. These are ground troops that
- 25:51went before the ground invasion. They, they had, they had guys
- 25:57advance units going in. And the guy's like, listen, take
- 26:00all the money you raised for me. Take all the equipment that you
- 26:05have for me, 'cause he had like convoys of cars set up for
- 26:09people. And this guy's story, by the
- 26:11way, this guy's David Gancher are people of Israel.
- 26:14He, his story was he was sitting at his, at his table, his
- 26:18holiday table, 10 people at the table by the end of the meal
- 26:24this October 7th was just him and his wife.
- 26:26He's like, we got to help them. So right after the, the Sabbath,
- 26:30he reached out to some people. He started helping.
- 26:32Word got out that he's able to help.
- 26:35So all of a sudden money charter coming in to him, request
- 26:38started coming in to him volunteers and he was delivering
- 26:41crazy quantity stuff all over. So he he had sent a bunch of
- 26:46stuff into Gaza and the guys like, take all the stuff.
- 26:49Beef jerky is what we need. The army's not going to get it
- 26:51to us. It's the most important thing
- 26:53for us. This is what we need.
- 26:55And he said, you won't believe it because he tried reaching out
- 26:57to other people to get sponsors for the project.
- 26:59And they're like, this is ridiculous.
- 27:01This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
- 27:05Like, this is so stupid. Like, and I've heard that many
- 27:07times throughout. Now, finally, I have answers
- 27:12like, yeah, it is the most important thing.
- 27:14Yes. Getting food in the hands of
- 27:17soldiers is more important than anything else you can give a
- 27:19soldier. And we're not talking about a
- 27:22guy on a base. Here's a case of beef jerky.
- 27:24You're a soldier here at a guard point.
- 27:27Enjoy it. We're talking about the guys who
- 27:29value every oz they take with them.
- 27:32They take less bullets because they're taking more food.
- 27:36That makes a difference. You know, this is the real guys,
- 27:38the real deal. Not that everyone does their
- 27:41part is is is important. So when that happened, I ran to
- 27:47the social hall of the synagogue.
- 27:49I heard this message on Saturday night.
- 27:51I hired 4 chefs. I'm like, listen, you're doing
- 27:55it for free, but tell me how much you need to support your
- 27:59family that you could do this. I'm not telling you how many
- 28:01hours a day to work. I'm not telling you how to do
- 28:03it. They each gave me a number.
- 28:05I said, fine, that's what you're getting.
- 28:08And I remember Sunday morning waking up, I'm like, Oh my God,
- 28:11what did I just do? I hired 4 chefs.
- 28:14I moved someone's equipment over.
- 28:16And I remember thinking also like Saturday night at 12:00 at
- 28:20night, I had to get this to move this guy's oven from his, from
- 28:24his catering kitchen into the synagogue social hall kitchen.
- 28:28And, and I'm like, it's like, this is an emergency.
- 28:31This is an emergency. Like I'm losing my mind.
- 28:34Like I called like an ambulet company.
- 28:36They're like, this is not an emergency.
- 28:37I'm like, no, no, it is. Finally we got it.
- 28:39We moved it over and and I remember waking up Sunday
- 28:43morning, I got to pick at 3 woke up at like 9/30, 10:00 and I'm
- 28:48like, what did I do? Woke up in a cold sweat.
- 28:51I'm like I just, I'm like I lost it.
- 28:53I'm nuts. The workout to my head, the
- 28:55trial or something. I hired 4 chefs.
- 28:57I moved people in the middle of the night.
- 28:58I convinced people of all these things.
- 29:00I'm negotiating meat orders like what is wrong with me?
- 29:03I lost it. I lost it.
- 29:04These chefs are going to be by my house in a few minutes
- 29:07freaking out. So what?
- 29:08I had a campaign in a race like 30 grand.
- 29:11So what, that's enough money for two days.
- 29:13Like what am I thinking? I go into the social hall and
- 29:19there's like 250 people there. There's gap used students,
- 29:23there's local people, people are cutting the meat, preparing it,
- 29:27donating. We're seeing miracles.
- 29:29So many stories. Like we have like a whole hour
- 29:31and a half with just miracles that happened throughout this
- 29:33project. And so we we had that and then a
- 29:40few months into the project, the we got a vendor in Jerusalem who
- 29:45had a proper beef jerky company with the Ministry of Health with
- 29:51the top level of kosher, but he couldn't package it.
- 29:56So we set up an offsite packaging facility using
- 29:58volunteers with his rabbi. So you'd get, so you'd get you.
- 30:03You'd make the meet in the in. The he would make, the he would
- 30:05go. So we had, so beginning, we
- 30:07started the social law, Yeah. And then the synagogue started
- 30:10smelling like beef jerky. We put a vent system in the
- 30:13kitchen. It still smelled like beef
- 30:15jerky. Like I'm like, I can't.
- 30:19Like I'm going to be scrubbing the carpets of the, of the
- 30:21synagogue. Like I can't.
- 30:22It's just not, not to. Then we ended up we were, so we
- 30:27had volunteers packaging in the synagogue for a few weeks, but
- 30:32we had, we were making it in the synagogue kitchen for a week and
- 30:36then we moved not very long. Then we moved to a catering
- 30:38kitchen at Yeshiva Reishi. Happens to be Friday.
- 30:42Friday morning, Rabbi Marcus and his wife and his kids are
- 30:47packaging and this Javari Rav Donnie.
- 30:52Donnie Yeah of. Course and and and the and the
- 30:56one of the heads of the synagogue comes and she's like
- 30:58listen, like the whole the whole place smells like beef jerky
- 31:02like your fan is your fent is not working.
- 31:04It's not doing it like like you could do this for a few another
- 31:08week or so. I'm like, we got to get out of
- 31:09here now. So Donnie's like, listen,
- 31:13there's no catering going on in the sure in the in the yeshiva
- 31:18in the gap year. So come to us.
- 31:22Moved everything over there. Up the hill.
- 31:25Up the hill and it was just like, it was like, like so many
- 31:29things like that. And then we got this great
- 31:32vendor in Jerusalem who's like French trained Russian
- 31:37charcuterie, beef jerky expert and but he couldn't package it.
- 31:42So he was selling us these 5K bags of beef jerky and we were
- 31:46packaging it with volunteers. What's 5K again?
- 31:49What is that convert it to? Pounds 10 lbs. 10 lbs OK and 10
- 31:52and typically speaking, how much, how much is in a how much?
- 31:55What's a personalized size of? Jerky.
- 31:57So jerky just around 2 ounces is is like 32 grams of protein.
- 32:02So that's like a serving. OK.
- 32:05And that's like how much did. Each person get out of that 10
- 32:08LB. How many?
- 32:08How many things does that 10 LB of jerky make?
- 32:11So you're talking about about what is that this, this 8 oz.
- 32:17So basically it's you're talking about 8080 packages of beef.
- 32:25Jerky. 10 lbs of jerky is 80 packages.
- 32:28Right, but your 10 lbs of jerky, by the way, is 30 lbs of meat is
- 32:3420 to 30. Pounds meat so dehydrated.
- 32:36Because it's dried, because you're taking the water out.
- 32:38Yeah. So it gets like, saves the
- 32:41protein. It's valuable.
- 32:44It's really valuable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 32:47And So what ends up happening is we.
- 32:52So by the way, I'll just say something that's just pop may
- 32:54talk about the value of it. Like about 3 weeks ago, this
- 32:58lady calls me up. She's like, can you get beef
- 33:01jerky for my husband? I'm like, sure.
- 33:05She's like, how does it work? It's free.
- 33:06How many guys? Whatever it is, let's get it to
- 33:08him. She's like, what's the story?
- 33:09Story is this guy her husband is one of the first troops that
- 33:13went into Gaza a few weeks ago and they went to a new area and
- 33:19they had a little generator with them but the generator didn't
- 33:21work so the fridge all their food in the refrigerator went
- 33:23bad their food delivery didn't show up to one in the morning
- 33:27for security reasons and the food they got was bad they
- 33:30literally ate rice and these talk about these aren't guys
- 33:32sitting around these are guys carrying 60 lbs in their back
- 33:35advance units like and she's and she's like he really needs this
- 33:41and actually today she she she works for a nonprofit and she
- 33:46sent out grant applications on our behalf to a bunch of
- 33:50organizations and foundations to to sponsor us like this is
- 33:54really that's a lot of. Work because that, that, that,
- 33:56that, that, that administrative stuff that's hard to navigate
- 33:59can be so valuable when you figure out how to how to, how to
- 34:01make your way through it. Yeah.
- 34:03So this is just an example of like the need and how like
- 34:06things work out. So then, so we had this guy in
- 34:08Jerusalem and we had volunteers from all over the world,
- 34:11thousands of volunteers, and then he went out of business.
- 34:16So then we found them even. If you give him all these
- 34:19orders. Yeah, 'cause we weren't given
- 34:21that much orders and it was right.
- 34:22Let's just say it's, it's also beef jerky is a tough business.
- 34:25If you're not doing it at scale, there's no money in it.
- 34:29Like right there. It's a, it's a volume.
- 34:32It's a volume proposition. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 34:35Gotcha. So and then, so then we were, we
- 34:39had these vendors in America, we got some of them licensed to
- 34:42import, but we couldn't get the rabbi license.
- 34:44This is top products from US kosher US beef jerky factories.
- 34:50And what was the what was the problem with with the overlap
- 34:53between coming from the states, the, the, the kosher or the?
- 34:58So part of it, part of it is, is like, I hate to say it's like a
- 35:00bit of a Gray area. Meaning, let's say you want to
- 35:05sponsor beef jerky, this guy's willing to make it at cost.
- 35:08This other guy's willing to bring it, this other guy needs
- 35:11it. So I'm like, here, go ahead.
- 35:13You guys meet each other and you do it like you can't really do
- 35:16that at scale. And it's.
- 35:18So we tried getting these vendors license, but the
- 35:20resistance that was very, it's bureaucratic.
- 35:23You're talking about bringing in a new food product.
- 35:25Even if you advance the process times 10, it's challenging.
- 35:29So so then I found the factory next to Gaza, found a factory
- 35:37next to Gaza. What kind of a beef?
- 35:39Factory a meat a beautiful meat fish processing facility.
- 35:45They had fresh fish founds outside.
- 35:48They were like high end the places done to the tea and
- 35:54October 7th. Came when?
- 35:56When was it built? So the place originally was
- 35:59built in the 40s, Nineteen 40s, but the, this, this iteration of
- 36:04the facility was built maybe 15 years ago. state-of-the-art,
- 36:08gorgeous drink, anything you could imagine.
- 36:11It's there like, like everything you would need in a professional
- 36:15facility is there with the agricultural ministry licenses
- 36:19and the kosher licenses and the logistics, the docking bays, the
- 36:22refrigerators, anything you could imagine.
- 36:25And October 7th, it closed. Over 100 of their customers were
- 36:31murdered October 7th. One of their one of their
- 36:34employees at the time they weren't there but they were in
- 36:37the surrounding area. All their all their staff was
- 36:42one of their staff was a hostage a few one of them was far as I
- 36:46went to visit her home totally obliterated her whole town.
- 36:49She was saved by a miracle in her in her shelter, her husband.
- 36:54She told me this. I went into her shelter and her
- 36:56her husband basically her and her two kids.
- 36:59Her husband went into shock. He couldn't move all day.
- 37:04And the way her, her, her shelter was situated is there
- 37:09was like A at the end of a narrow hallway.
- 37:11So if someone tried shooting into the door, it would ricochet
- 37:15back into them. So and then she found this
- 37:18wooden spindle from Holland that she got as a child and she used
- 37:23that in a sweater to, to hold physically hold the door shut.
- 37:29And she heard her neighbors being murdered, Her home was
- 37:34destroyed. Her home was a grenade was sent
- 37:38into her house below marks everywhere like total
- 37:43destruction. And then she's the head of of
- 37:48orders for this guy's company. She was in there for 12 hours.
- 37:52Her story's insane. I'll tell you one crazy thing
- 37:55she showed me is her dad had passed away two years before and
- 38:00she goes into her house a few weeks after this to get some
- 38:03stuff and the picture of her the house is destroyed.
- 38:08But on the table is the picture of her dad face up.
- 38:12It on the picture is a block kids toy block of heart.
- 38:17It's on the picture. She showed it to me.
- 38:22You know, like sometimes there's things that are just like too
- 38:25much. And so this factory was vacant
- 38:29and I had some vendors who's going to go in there, open a
- 38:31whole business and went, great, we'll raise funds and your first
- 38:34orders will be for the soldiers. But no, no, we need to order
- 38:37equipment. It's going to take a year.
- 38:39What ends up happening is they back out.
- 38:42In the meantime, my background is in logistics.
- 38:46So I'm like, OK, I'll go through the steps, fill out the
- 38:50paperwork, get the place licensed, meet the rabbis, meet
- 38:54the vendors, the food technologists.
- 38:57Just move forward. Just move forward.
- 39:01And within miracles, like literally miracles.
- 39:04And everyone we're interfacing with is someone who was impacted
- 39:08by the war, someone who lives in the area, was impacted by the
- 39:11war. And so we got licensed.
- 39:14We started the process maybe October 24.
- 39:19By November, mid November we got approved, which is insane to get
- 39:23like a whole new product license.
- 39:26And by February we were up and running, making batches and we
- 39:31decided to be gluten free, of course, because always go for
- 39:35the how much? Easier.
- 39:36How much harder is that to do with jerky?
- 39:38Is it just about the ingredients at?
- 39:40That point it's ingredients. Ingredients, yeah, yeah.
- 39:43So. Like the core of the core of it
- 39:44should be pretty easy to make gluten free, right?
- 39:46Right. But you're not using.
- 39:47But also part of the thing that was because we went gluten free
- 39:50and because we decided we were going to be kosher for Passover
- 39:53and we were limited, very, very limited in our ingredients.
- 39:56In the meantime, world class vendors got in touch with us and
- 40:01they gave us some secrets of how to make high quality beef Jerk.
- 40:07Basically, little science is that water activity level below
- 40:13.85, like 1 is liquid, .6 is a cracker.
- 40:19A cracker doesn't give refrigeration, doesn't really
- 40:22need to be packaged, it won't go back.
- 40:26So .85 is where you want your beef jerky.
- 40:29Below that, it's safe to have beef jerky.
- 40:32It'll last. But really, there's secrets.
- 40:37And the lower it is, the true, the drier and chewier it is.
- 40:39The dry the that isn't true, but the lower it is, the more stable
- 40:42it is, the drier it is. But there's secrets.
- 40:45So you so the the minimum is .85, but it could go lower than
- 40:49that. Right, and the real like, like
- 40:53cowboy jerky, like the traditional American beef jerky
- 40:57is at like around .7. Gotcha.
- 41:01OK. So it's really almost.
- 41:02A good cracker. But what happens is, is that
- 41:05there's some secret ingredients, specifically honey.
- 41:09I'll just tell you because let people know how to do it.
- 41:11Specifically honey that takes away the moisture and it
- 41:15naturally kills bacteria. It's very expensive.
- 41:18You're talking about organic honey.
- 41:19We're using pure organic honey and we're using pure.
- 41:23You want a low pH, so we're using pure lemon juice.
- 41:26We get lemon juice in these little bottles, little glass
- 41:29bottles. Commercially, they sell them in
- 41:31little glass bottles like you're talking about pure.
- 41:34There's no preserves in the lemon juice 'cause it's pure
- 41:36lemon juice. And we're using pure ingredients
- 41:40and we put it online and we got people respond.
- 41:42I was on on day start Christian television and people got in
- 41:47touch with us and they're like, use this ingredient, use that
- 41:50ingredient, do it this way, do it that way.
- 41:54And we ended up just by miracles have a very thin, very dry
- 42:01product. It it's a chip.
- 42:04It's like a potato chip made out of meat.
- 42:07Is it really? You know, like a potato chip you
- 42:09put in your mouth for a few seconds and it kind of melts.
- 42:12Yeah, it's the same thing. It melts.
- 42:16It's America. And part of it is, is, listen,
- 42:19if I'm doing a commercial venture, then, yeah, you might
- 42:22take two years and scientists to get the perfect product.
- 42:26But if I'm delivering God's children his food, then the
- 42:31products I want to buy that I shouldn't buy, I won't be able
- 42:33to get the things I need will come my way and they'll come my
- 42:38way in style. And that's exactly what
- 42:40happened. And like even today I saw these
- 42:43bunch of these special forces soldiers, I'm like, try this.
- 42:47And one of the commanders there was this, this guy who's in this
- 42:50advance gallon blow, blow stuff up unit.
- 42:53He's like, they're, they're sapped, they're bomb disposal
- 42:57units, whatever they call. But they, they do that deep
- 42:59inside the combat zone. So they're like fighters and
- 43:02bomb units and they're carrying explosives with them.
- 43:04It's like insane what these guys do.
- 43:07And he's like a soldier could carry one bag of beef jerky,
- 43:10could be all he eats in a day 'cause they're working so hard
- 43:14and has all the protein they need.
- 43:15And he's like any stuff salts you need to cut out.
- 43:18I need no flavors. It's got to have just a little
- 43:20bit of flavors. So it's tasty, but no heavy
- 43:23flavors 'cause you can't get acid reflux.
- 43:26You need to like, this is what you're eating.
- 43:27This is your protein food. This is army food.
- 43:30Heavy clean. And yeah, and, and and this
- 43:34bunch of soldiers there, he had, he was recruiting new soldiers.
- 43:37I have to bump into him and he's like, try this.
- 43:40He's like everyone of you is going to carry a few bags of
- 43:42beef up our boys beef jerky in your vest because that's your
- 43:45emergency food. Don't just eat it plain.
- 43:47And the guy's like, I don't like beef jerky, I don't like it,
- 43:50it's not good, blah, blah, blah. It's not my thing.
- 43:53I might try this. So whoa, he tries.
- 43:56It melts in his mouth. He's like, this is not beef
- 43:59jerky, this is good, this is good.
- 44:02This is just meat. This, this is tasty.
- 44:05And there's honey and the salt. It's just boom.
- 44:08And he'd give it out to his friends and they're all like,
- 44:09this is great. And so that's the story, how we
- 44:15went from requests, yeah. So how that's the whole process
- 44:26is awesome. The so has have operations like
- 44:31had to ramp up significantly or did are they just go, are they
- 44:34almost like in waves periodically or has it become a
- 44:36new standard that everyone just kind of got like the soldiers
- 44:40just use it now, you know, like let's say with God's help, the
- 44:43war ends tomorrow. You know, is it going to become
- 44:46just a flagship thing? Like, OK, listen, like now that
- 44:49like it's available for soldiers, it's just going to
- 44:50continue funding and not funding, but you know, being
- 44:53provided for soldiers in general.
- 44:55Or is this like an operation just for wartime?
- 44:57What do you think? So part of what my objective
- 45:00from the beginning was threefold.
- 45:02One, it's an emergency thing. The soldiers need it.
- 45:04We got to get it to them. They want it.
- 45:07Even if they just enjoy it is enough of a reason to do it.
- 45:10But the fact that they're saying this is what I need, this is
- 45:13important, Even how many stories I've gotten where people say I
- 45:17saved their lives, Like literally you saved not my life,
- 45:20my unit's life. Because of, because there was
- 45:24just nothing to eat, or because. What?
- 45:27Because when you're fighting, you need to be alert.
- 45:32It's not a fast day. You're not in class between
- 45:35lectures. You're not sitting at the office
- 45:37saying I'm going out to dinner tonight.
- 45:39Yeah, you're in a tank under fire.
- 45:43You go in, you don't open that tank door.
- 45:45You poop in the tank. You eat in the tank.
- 45:47You don't leave that tank. You smoke in the tank.
- 45:49You don't open that door until you can.
- 45:53And if your supply chain, if your expectations are off, you
- 45:58have an emergency food. And that's what these guys had.
- 46:02Did I lose you for a second? Yeah, you lost me for a second.
- 46:05You said you can't open that door until unless you can.
- 46:07And then this, this then so you have situations where you're
- 46:11emergency food. There was a unit, A search and
- 46:13rescue unit, not exactly the unit you'd think that would need
- 46:16emergency food. And but they're fun, they like
- 46:19it. They go on a long missions.
- 46:21They came to my house. They said, you know, what
- 46:22happened is the place we went to in the north, the road got
- 46:27bombed and the area was very dangerous.
- 46:30And they're like, you're not getting supplies for 36 hours.
- 46:35They have food for 12, but then the commander's like, wait a
- 46:38minute, I picked up from client beef up our boys.
- 46:42I picked up. No way.
- 46:43I picked up this big, this big bag stuff with beef jerky that
- 46:47I'm saving for an emergency opens the bag.
- 46:50Everyone's like we have food or fight.
- 46:53There you go. It's crazy.
- 46:56It's crazy to think. I mean, you know, one of the
- 46:58things, I guess, and I want to talk to you as someone that's
- 47:02kind of lived in both, you know, obviously spent a decade now in
- 47:05Israel and then obviously being American before there's such a
- 47:11difference in knowing like America, you're surrounded by
- 47:18water and Canada and Mexico and in Israel, you're not in Israel,
- 47:22you're surrounded by Lebanon and every, you know, all good
- 47:32Lebanon and Egypt and you know, and, and, and, and going 2 steps
- 47:38in the wrong way has a massive impact on everything, you know.
- 47:43And so it probably so, so it screws up logistics, I'm sure
- 47:47tremendously, right? In terms of the army, in terms
- 47:49of being able to even like get supplies of food down the block
- 47:53could be something that takes days.
- 47:55Because you're not going from New York, you know, from, you
- 47:57know, America to Canada, you're going from Israel to Gaza,
- 48:00you're going from Israel to Lebanon.
- 48:02You know it's a big deal. Right.
- 48:04Yeah, definitely. And that kind of ties it to what
- 48:07you were asking before about post war scalability is this is
- 48:10a crowdfunded project. And and really what I've been
- 48:15thinking since day one is I want to be able to produce as many
- 48:19packages as I can as quickly as I can.
- 48:22So I am in a facility that we could equipped it and it's not
- 48:26even that much money or that many people giving a small
- 48:29donation to industrial level production to 100,000 packages
- 48:34even a week. How do you get military?
- 48:36Can you get like a military contract for that?
- 48:38How does that work? Well, right now we, we submitted
- 48:41the applications. I got ISO 9001 certified, which
- 48:44is a whole story of like all these little things.
- 48:47Corona time I decided I'm going to do more than than I work for
- 48:53a Genie Energy, IDT Energy, a great energy company, one of the
- 48:56few really good honest ones out there.
- 49:00I do their quality control because I know because literally
- 49:02they'll send you a check for $0.12 even though it's costing
- 49:05them $1.50. Like they're just honest.
- 49:07They just want to do right for their customers and give them
- 49:10good rates. And I'm I do their quality for
- 49:13them. Corona time I got trained in
- 49:16being a medical device auditor, FDA auditor on 345 whatever it
- 49:20is, which was good also because the whole that.
- 49:23Part of your job and that was separate.
- 49:24Separate. I'm a contractor, so I took on a
- 49:26separate thing. I'm like, you know what, what,
- 49:28what am I doing long term? What's my long term dream?
- 49:30Where's my real impact? And are you able to do that from
- 49:34Israel? Are you able to get FDA approved
- 49:35or I? Guess.
- 49:36Well, there's orders, there's, there's, there's startup
- 49:38companies all over the place. Right.
- 49:41And they all get FDA. Approval and so so risk
- 49:44management and medical device so getting certified for a food
- 49:49safety plant. Gotcha.
- 49:52I was ready. I didn't have to hire a
- 49:54consultant. I had to be audited by a third
- 49:56party auditor and all this other stuff.
- 49:58Auditing body, but a certified body.
- 50:01But I was able to do it because I knew it.
- 50:03That's something I knew and that's something that for most
- 50:06companies, it's like a nightmare for them.
- 50:09For me, it was a it was, thank God, a breeze.
- 50:12Yeah. And I'm like, of course I'm
- 50:14doing ISO. I'm doing, even if you don't
- 50:16tell me to do it, like all these things.
- 50:18And so the army, actually, they've been in touch with us
- 50:21many times throughout the project.
- 50:24When they went into Lebanon, they had soldiers who had been
- 50:27in there in prior wars. They were going there now and
- 50:31they wanted food security. The soldiers wanted to have a
- 50:34few bags of beef jerky in their pack just to know if something
- 50:39goes wrong, they could rely on it for food for a few days.
- 50:42Yeah, it's like for for 8 oz, you could have 4 packages of
- 50:46beef jerky. That's 32g ounces of steak.
- 50:50So how do you get, so how do we get the government, how do you
- 50:52get the government to continue to give you a formal contract?
- 50:56And and like, I mean, if it's so, if it's so important, you
- 50:59actually could have all these testimonials, you know, from,
- 51:02you know, people in the army, people that have been in Lebanon
- 51:04and Gaza and whoever they are, you know, that, you know, can,
- 51:08can, can you leverage that and to get using the government and
- 51:10to get you a contact. So keep on going.
- 51:12The real way to do it is beef up ourboys.com Cosmatch.
- 51:17It's a Crowdsource thing for people to donate whatever they
- 51:22can. It's going to go to the beef
- 51:23jerky, and we got enough of the beef jerky.
- 51:25We're going to scale the equipment, we'll scale the
- 51:27facility and when we're scaled and we're able to produce large
- 51:33volumes, then we become an army supplier.
- 51:36They'll pay for the meat because we have the factory and we have
- 51:40the know out and the knowledge so.
- 51:41You need the operations you need.
- 51:42You need to be able to match the demand and have the operations
- 51:45be able to match it. And then Israeli soldiers will
- 51:49have Beecher just like all the other combat soldiers around the
- 51:53world. And that, that's the root cause
- 51:55of it. It's like, well, if you believe
- 51:58in yourself, you believe that you're given a mission, you're
- 52:00going to fill it. What do you do?
- 52:04What do you do? Why is there no kosher
- 52:06industrial beef jerky factory? Because no one built one.
- 52:10Let's build 1. So what do you need to build 1?
- 52:15You don't need $1,000,000 of equipment.
- 52:18You're going to need $1,000,000 of equipment.
- 52:20But what you do need is a facility that can grow.
- 52:23You need a license. You need a darn good product.
- 52:27You need the sciences. You need to know how you need to
- 52:29be able to grow and scale overnight, overnight.
- 52:34A guy reached out to me a week ago from Nevada.
- 52:39This guy makes he's called cowboy sticks in Nevada and he
- 52:47reached out to me. He's like, this is great.
- 52:50He's like, can I let me sell you a bunch of products of cost, but
- 52:53low cost? Let me get I'm like, listen, I
- 52:54know kosher wise, like I'm halal certified.
- 52:57I'm like kosher might be a little stricter than that, but
- 53:01he's like, listen, I, I do for a living is I go into beef jerky
- 53:05factories that are struggling and I help them to upgrade their
- 53:08equipment to upgrade their processes so they could be
- 53:11profitable. And he's like, I'm going to help
- 53:14you. So I said from the four plan,
- 53:16he's helping us. He's going to reach out to
- 53:18people in his community, in the in the Meech community, the food
- 53:21community that want to help Israel, right.
- 53:24And so here you have like all of a sudden I'm talking to the army
- 53:28submitted the application. I've got a great Prada.
- 53:30Thank God, all the vendors, all the knowledge, the know how is
- 53:34done. We're talking.
- 53:36For all we know, people will be like, oh, beef up our boys.
- 53:39Cool, let me sponsor a bag. Hey, I got some extra cash.
- 53:42Let me Crowdsource this thing. Let me put it out in my
- 53:44communities. Let's get this energy.
- 53:47And and we're, we're in the desert, we're in the Negev,
- 53:51we're 6 kilometers from Gaza. We like we got a factory that
- 53:56closed October 7th. We've got staff that's wants to
- 54:01work 24 hours a day 'cause they want jobs.
- 54:04But the jobs lost October 7th, we're rehiring.
- 54:08People that haven't worked in two years were taking a factory
- 54:13that was the hub of the community and bringing life back
- 54:18to it. So it's like, yeah.
- 54:23It's such a cool, it's such a, it's such a cool opportunity.
- 54:25It's also it's also interesting to just think about like from a
- 54:27logistics and from a business perspective, like most of the
- 54:31people, most businesses biggest problems is that like you come
- 54:34up with a great idea and then you need to find the customer
- 54:36base for it or you need to find, you know, someone that's willing
- 54:38to someone that knows the paperwork or you know someone
- 54:40that could do the administrative stuff.
- 54:42It sounds like like almost everything is happening
- 54:46backwards for the company. You know first, you know, first
- 54:50you get the custom, first you have the demand before you have
- 54:52anything. And then you have to find the
- 54:54chefs and then you have to find the facility and then you have
- 54:57to find and like now, I guess now it's just a matter of now
- 55:01you have. So everything is almost like
- 55:03waiting for just this last part to just come to fruition, I
- 55:06guess, Right. So.
- 55:16I feel in a way because you suck about business and, and like the
- 55:20biggest thing for a business, the biggest thing and anything
- 55:23in life is, is like there's so many people say motivational
- 55:27speakers say it's just showing up, show up. 90% of the job is
- 55:32showing up. And I've had so many days where
- 55:34I'm ready to throw in the towel. I'm like, I'm done, I'm done.
- 55:36Donations haven't come in in a week.
- 55:39I'm I'm like I took the bank from being having a cushion to
- 55:42now I got to worry about how am I paying my workers on the 1st
- 55:45of the month and I'm like, I'm done.
- 55:48I'm just finished. And then you're thinking one
- 55:50second here I'm I'm doing something big.
- 55:56I'm building a factory, I'm feeding a soldier.
- 56:00I need to show up. Yes, logically it won't work,
- 56:05but I gave out over $1,000,000 of beef jerky in the last year.
- 56:09I've interfaced with countless people.
- 56:13I get I get requests from like some of the most elite units in
- 56:18the world and and I'm giving them the sustenance that they
- 56:22need. How could I stop?
- 56:26How could I say I'm too tired to go one more day?
- 56:29I'll go one more day. I'll go one more week.
- 56:35Right. I guess it goes back to, it goes
- 56:37back to what we were saying in the beginning, which is
- 56:40authenticity and the sense of purpose.
- 56:41You know, it was going to be the only thing that you could count
- 56:43on in your life. You know, and nothing, nothing
- 56:47says purpose like this kind of mission.
- 56:48You know, nothing says, you know, authenticity, like the
- 56:52feeling that you like what you just described, the feeling of
- 56:54knowing that there's someone that's putting their lives, you
- 56:56know, the lives on the line for you to be able to do what you're
- 56:59doing. And how, how are you going to
- 57:01stop that? How are you going to quit?
- 57:03You know, I think that's, you know, that's the that's the,
- 57:05that's the spirit. It's cool.
- 57:06That's the spirit that that like you feel on the streets when you
- 57:09walk around Israel. That's the that's the spirit you
- 57:11feel when you talk to all the local shop owners.
- 57:14And although, you know, you know, the people that work at
- 57:16the cafes and the baristas and you know, you get that sense
- 57:22that you get that sense that, you know, this is authentic,
- 57:26this is genuine, you know, like we're all we're all, you know, I
- 57:29see this the signs all over biaca, you know, biaca Netsayak,
- 57:32you know, we're going to win if we come together, you know, and
- 57:35like there, there's a real sense of unity.
- 57:37And I was actually, it's funny because I was thinking, I'm 29,
- 57:41right? I've never seen a country at
- 57:45war. You know, I don't remember 911.
- 57:47I've never been in a war zone. Like I don't even I have no, I
- 57:50have no recollection. I was in the second or third
- 57:52grade when 911 happened and I wasn't there to like experience.
- 57:56I wasn't against conscious enough to experience the
- 57:58national sense of unity that, you know, that comes from coming
- 58:01under attack and having, you know, and then when you and then
- 58:05when I went to Israel just a couple of weeks ago, it's the
- 58:07first like I've been there, you know, when there have been
- 58:09terrorist attacks, when I've been there and they've been
- 58:10there, you know, when there's stabbings or rammings and
- 58:13terrible things, but not like in a full scale war, like now, you
- 58:17know, and, and there is just such an elevated sense of family
- 58:24and, and unity and consciousness that it's so unique.
- 58:30It's, you know, I mean, and, and you know, it's almost sad to
- 58:34say, but I feel like, you know, like it almost became part of
- 58:36our national identity. It's like this kind of like
- 58:39response to getting like, you know, like don't you know, the
- 58:42way that we exist is in in, you know, responding to just
- 58:48attacks, you know, the year after year after year after
- 58:50year. Community, community.
- 58:58Yeah, we're, we're, we're going through this together.
- 59:00And it's, it's not just me because my neighbors are
- 59:04fighting and they've lost kids. It's not just me because we're
- 59:10part of the Jewish nation. It's the whole world.
- 59:14We're ultimately good. We ultimately want to help each
- 59:17other. We ultimately relate to the
- 59:20Israeli message. I work for this company Rewalk
- 59:23and they they have an exoskeleton that help people
- 59:26that are paralyzed to walk. That's what do you do for them.
- 59:30I was tested their product and they had a new version of the
- 59:32product, which is they wanted to help them.
- 59:36People go up and down steps. Yeah.
- 59:39And now, like, OK, some guy's going to walk down the hall, his
- 59:43head's 5 feet, 5 1/2 to 6 feet above the ground.
- 59:46OK, What's the social benefit of a person who's handicapped going
- 59:54up and down stairs? For the individual.
- 59:59I'm saying like the risk, the risk is so great.
- 1:00:02The risk were war. If anything happens.
- 1:00:04They've got elevators. OK, Maybe I could hear one step.
- 1:00:09A curb. OK, I get it.
- 1:00:11A Curb A. Flight of steps, Angelo.
- 1:00:14A flight of steps. But why, right?
- 1:00:17Why? And then you realize that Israel
- 1:00:20is about dignity. And then I went, I, I travelled
- 1:00:25with them to, to do to do human trials.
- 1:00:29And, and you see people who are soldiers, US veterans who had
- 1:00:34had lost their, their ability to move and to walk and like,
- 1:00:38they're like. First of all, they this Israeli,
- 1:00:40this, this company is Israeli. Israeli company.
- 1:00:43And and the US and the US and the US and the US they.
- 1:00:45Sell their product, they sell the exoskele to the US market.
- 1:00:49We walk and they're like and then you see someone saying like
- 1:00:53what? Do you like so they can you walk
- 1:00:55me through what what the process is like?
- 1:00:57So the the process is and I'm there, I'm the QA guy.
- 1:01:00So I'm looking, I'm looking to confirm that my lab tests, my
- 1:01:04bench tests match the real world.
- 1:01:06And I'm also looking for for usability like quirks and
- 1:01:10usability and and and also for me.
- 1:01:14They get to try them out. It's just randomly people.
- 1:01:16That people that are that are disabled, they they sign.
- 1:01:20Up or or they sign up to. They, they signed up to part of
- 1:01:23Trump. Maybe there are people that are
- 1:01:24already using the product or they use it in a clinic.
- 1:01:27And so First off, when they stand up, it's amazing because
- 1:01:31they spend their whole life sitting down.
- 1:01:33Their kids are taller than that. Their, their 10 year old kid is
- 1:01:35always head taller than than that.
- 1:01:37Yeah. And when they walk up and down
- 1:01:40those stairs, it's exhilarating. It's it's life affirming, yeah.
- 1:01:47And and how do you value that? I don't know.
- 1:01:53It's a big problem that we have is that we don't know how to put
- 1:01:56a dot. We, we measure everything by
- 1:01:57dollar values, but the most important things in life, you
- 1:02:01don't know how to put a dollar value to, you know, So like,
- 1:02:04even though, like we measure everything by one sense, the
- 1:02:06most important things, we have no way of actually measuring
- 1:02:09that. How do you measure a happiness
- 1:02:11in a, in a marriage? How do you, how do you measure
- 1:02:13the moment that like, you know, the experience of getting to
- 1:02:15hold your kid for the first time, you know, like how many
- 1:02:18dollars keep it on that, you know, and, and it's and because
- 1:02:22we don't and because we can't, I think it becomes easy for
- 1:02:26society to kind of cast it aside.
- 1:02:28And I think that we live in a world today that does not
- 1:02:30because there's no value dollar value that you can put to it or
- 1:02:33metric you can put to it. You know, a lot of people just
- 1:02:37choose to avoid it. They're like, Ah, it's not worth
- 1:02:39it. Exactly.
- 1:02:42And I've seen so much of that I could take, I could take a snack
- 1:02:45bar and and send it to a soldier.
- 1:02:51It's lightweight, it's portable, it's good.
- 1:02:54But if it's hot outside, it's going to melt.
- 1:02:56It doesn't have the protein, doesn't have the taste, doesn't
- 1:02:59have the flavor, doesn't have the feeling of home, of eating
- 1:03:01like a steak in a bag. What's the value of a bag of
- 1:03:05beef jerky in a tank, on a helicopter, on a ship, in a on a
- 1:03:11sharpshooter's lap? What's the value?
- 1:03:16What's the value of, of over 100,000 packages given for free
- 1:03:23and, and so many people, I've struggled so many times and
- 1:03:26someone's like today, he's like, why don't you just tell the
- 1:03:28unit, listen, you won 100 packages of beef jerky, Go raise
- 1:03:3250% of it. I'll, I'll raise the other 50.
- 1:03:35Like, what's the value of that unit commander handing out beef
- 1:03:41jerky to the guys who are away from their families?
- 1:03:43These are guys with jobs, with lives, with with kids.
- 1:03:45Yeah. And.
- 1:03:46And saying there's a guy in Israel, guy in Beit Shammesh.
- 1:03:50The Jewish community around the world decorated these bags.
- 1:03:54People around the world sponsor this for you because we value
- 1:03:58you. What's the value of that?
- 1:04:00Yeah. That's got to be worth times.
- 1:04:04How many hundreds? Yeah.
- 1:04:07You can't. You said you can't put a number
- 1:04:09to it. Can't put a number to it.
- 1:04:13Yeah, Yeah, I hope that, you know, and I think that it's cool
- 1:04:18because in the I think as the world moves forward again, you
- 1:04:24know, in terms of technology, in terms of AI, jobs are kind of
- 1:04:27being taken. But like jobs are going to be
- 1:04:30taken. I'm sure that the way that we
- 1:04:32measure money and the way that money is distributed or any, you
- 1:04:36know, that things are going to get shaken up a lot, you know,
- 1:04:38and people are going to have to find time, ways to fill their
- 1:04:40time. And one of the things that we're
- 1:04:43going to struggle with is how to fill that time and what's what's
- 1:04:45meaningful. What do we do, you know, and,
- 1:04:48and, and, and what human pursuits can we, you know, can
- 1:04:50we, can we kind of work on. And I think it's going to take
- 1:04:54such a, and it's such a bit. And this is, and I feel like
- 1:04:57Israel has a lot of it. I feel, I feel like a lot of
- 1:05:00countries that still have a lot of that mom and pop kind of
- 1:05:03environment as opposed to big corporate environments, They're
- 1:05:07going to have a much easier time with that because they're
- 1:05:09generally already focused on, on relationship and people oriented
- 1:05:14goals and, and, and, and, and responsibilities.
- 1:05:17You know, I mean, one of the things I always love observing
- 1:05:20when I'm in Israel is that the way that people measure their
- 1:05:23time or the way that their time is spent is generally based on
- 1:05:25community, not based on like buying things or doing things or
- 1:05:28spending money on things. You know, and, and kids just
- 1:05:31play in the street and go to the park instead of going to the
- 1:05:33mall to buy a T-shirt or a Slurpee, you know, and like just
- 1:05:36to, you know, so when you ask what people are going to do with
- 1:05:39their lives and what they're going to do with themselves, the
- 1:05:41answer is going to be relationships.
- 1:05:42The answers are going to be, you know, the and, and, and if you
- 1:05:45think about like, you know, Torah or Judaism, it's a
- 1:05:48guidebook to relationships. It's a guidebook to life.
- 1:05:50It's a guidebook. What's the healthiest way to
- 1:05:52have a relationship with your wife, with your kids, with your
- 1:05:55friends, your community? What's a healthy way to have a
- 1:05:58relationship with your money in with, you know, the land that
- 1:06:00you live in and work on, You know, and is life supposed to be
- 1:06:03our comfort? Is it supposed to be about
- 1:06:04meaning? And are those, you know, do they
- 1:06:06work together, you know? Wow, that's a very, very good
- 1:06:11point. Loaded, loaded point there.
- 1:06:14Like like kind of it. And I look at at this war and,
- 1:06:17and myself in this project, there's a transition from
- 1:06:21selfish thinking to selfless thinking and, and thinking about
- 1:06:25if, if there are no limitations. I know when you're doing charity
- 1:06:28work and you're doing community feeding, like you get luck and
- 1:06:32you get people connect with you in a special way.
- 1:06:36So it doesn't really translate to regular life, but ultimately,
- 1:06:41imagine a society where we're not worried about ourselves,
- 1:06:46we're not worried about our paychecks, we're not worried
- 1:06:48about our fears. We just want, we just realize
- 1:06:53that the more good I throw out there, the more good is out
- 1:06:58there. And, and I can breathe it, I can
- 1:07:02feel it, I can love it. And when you feel this energy?
- 1:07:06We need to push that we. Need to Well, I had a guy, I had
- 1:07:09a guy, I had a guy come to my house.
- 1:07:13It was like, this just goes back a few months.
- 1:07:16It was like at 2:00 in the morning.
- 1:07:20He's got his Wrangler. Whatever he's driving is he's
- 1:07:26he, he runs an HVAC company. Nice.
- 1:07:28He's got a trailer hitch hooked up to the back of his truck.
- 1:07:32He tells me, he says once a week he drives around the country.
- 1:07:37He goes from the South, southern point of the country, loads up
- 1:07:41his trailer, anything the soldiers need, gear, food,
- 1:07:47whatever they need, air conditioning, whatever they
- 1:07:50need. They ask for something.
- 1:07:52And he has a Rep and he came by my town to pick up a few, You
- 1:07:57know, maybe maybe 4 or 500 packages of beef jerky, 5 grams
- 1:08:02of Turkey. Nice, nice and.
- 1:08:04And I'm like, I'm feeling good about myself.
- 1:08:06Here I am 2 in the morning, I'm up, I'm delivering to this guy.
- 1:08:10And, and, and I'm looking at this guy like you do this every
- 1:08:13week. He's like, yeah, 'cause I work
- 1:08:15all week. Thursday night I go.
- 1:08:17And he's like in the most matter of factor way, He's like, what
- 1:08:21will we not do for our soldiers? And at that moment, like I felt
- 1:08:26like all this ego ear and maybe I needed it in the beginning.
- 1:08:31Maybe I still need it. Feel like I'm doing good to keep
- 1:08:34it going. Just like deflated.
- 1:08:38It's like I'm I'm just a person. Those are messages, my little
- 1:08:43effort. Those people are messengers from
- 1:08:45God. Exactly, exactly.
- 1:08:46And and then, and then like I start realizing, I start
- 1:08:51realizing people in my life, people I've seen that devote
- 1:08:59their life to helping others. They could be running a dog
- 1:09:06kennel donations. They could be running.
- 1:09:10It could be a nurse. They could be the volunteer at
- 1:09:14the museum or in the hospital telling someone where to go.
- 1:09:17They could be running a soup kitchen.
- 1:09:20They could be, I don't know, an, A, a counselor, They could be
- 1:09:25like, and I'm looking back at my life like there were sprints of
- 1:09:28time where I did something, but it wasn't consistent.
- 1:09:33There are people that do Shabbat meals that send out boxes to
- 1:09:35people. There's I did when I was in
- 1:09:39school in Wisconsin, Milwaukee, I was a Big Brother.
- 1:09:43So they reached out to the yeshiva at this Jewish school I
- 1:09:46was in. This is my, I was like 19 years
- 1:09:49old. And they said, listen, there's
- 1:09:51this is wits. Yes.
- 1:09:52Yes. There's like there's gorgeous on
- 1:09:55the lake MI Oh my God, it's gorgeous.
- 1:09:58I remember one day I was in Whitson, I had this view that
- 1:10:02overlooked the lake. It's like looking down the
- 1:10:04mountain treetops into the lake and the, the rabbi there like I,
- 1:10:10it's like 930 whatever. It was late in the morning.
- 1:10:13He wakes me up. He's like, oh, this is not a
- 1:10:15hotel. Got to get up.
- 1:10:18You got to go. I I look out the window and I
- 1:10:21see the lake and I'm like, Rabbi, this is so much nicer.
- 1:10:27In a hotel. This is so much nicer.
- 1:10:31So, but I don't know, I got sidetracked besides Milwaukee
- 1:10:34and and I was a Big Brother because they wanted, there's a
- 1:10:36religious kid from the community.
- 1:10:37They wanted a religious Big Brother.
- 1:10:40And so I go, I met, I had to go through some sort of a training
- 1:10:43class with the Jewish Federation, Milwaukee and no one
- 1:10:47else was religious there. They're like, what do we do?
- 1:10:49We take the guy to McDonald's. We take the guy.
- 1:10:51They're like, you just have an impact in someone's life.
- 1:10:56And I realized they like look around the room there.
- 1:10:58So many of the people there, they were talking about how they
- 1:11:00do this all the time. Like they just devote their life
- 1:11:04to foster care, to being a Big Brother, to just helping and
- 1:11:08make these people are people from the future because they're
- 1:11:12taking the energy where when everybody just like I did this
- 1:11:16because it's a wartime, because it was a need, but just imagine
- 1:11:20a society where people just connect.
- 1:11:23Did this because yeah. And that's why to me, sorry, go
- 1:11:27ahead, go. Ahead please, please see.
- 1:11:28That's why the you no. I was going to do a plug out
- 1:11:30like like if people want to connect to this energy, to this
- 1:11:36beef up our boys energy to a free package of beef jerky, to a
- 1:11:40factory that with the right community engagement.
- 1:11:45The Baba Cherebi says, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but the Baba
- 1:11:48Cherebi, he, he says, like, how do you raise funds?
- 1:11:53If you're doing something because you believe in it, then
- 1:11:56maybe people will or will not believe in it.
- 1:11:58If you're doing something because it's godly, because
- 1:12:02you're tapping into the universal energy of the
- 1:12:04universe, then people will connect with that.
- 1:12:10And now you're connecting on a much deeper, higher level.
- 1:12:13And where I feel like I am right now is that because we're so
- 1:12:18close, we have our own industrial facility, we're
- 1:12:22literally only missing maybe 1000 people giving 20 bucks.
- 1:12:28Maybe it's maybe it's more like 10,000 people giving 20 bucks.
- 1:12:32But whatever it is, it's like we just, we're ready to produce
- 1:12:38industrial quality, industrial level products where when you're
- 1:12:42doing industrial, the price per product is basically the price
- 1:12:46of the ingredients plus a little bit and, and now feeding
- 1:12:51soldiers, we could fill an army, we could put the kosher beef
- 1:12:55jerky in the stores at a fair price.
- 1:12:58And that goes back to the original motivation.
- 1:13:00Why are you coming to me? It's not in the store.
- 1:13:03Why is it in the store? Because you're treating a piece
- 1:13:05of dried meat as a luxury product.
- 1:13:08It's not, it's an essential item.
- 1:13:11You need to do it at scale. Why does the army not have it?
- 1:13:14Because there's no factory to do it.
- 1:13:15Why does the charity work not do it?
- 1:13:18Because you need to be narrow focused.
- 1:13:20You need to be narrow focused. You need to be on the game.
- 1:13:23You need to be targeted and focused.
- 1:13:25So sorry, sorry to interrupt you.
- 1:13:27That's great. That's great.
- 1:13:28No, no, no, no, it's great. I think listen, I think that
- 1:13:34what you're doing is amazing work.
- 1:13:35I think that this I think that this is a great story.
- 1:13:38I think this is, this is beautiful.
- 1:13:40And I do, I, I really do encourage everyone to, to
- 1:13:44participate or at least to check it out and see what this is.
- 1:13:47Because, you know, you know, like you mentioned, you know, I
- 1:13:50mean, it's very easy to be cynical about something as
- 1:13:53simple as food. And it's also takes a little bit
- 1:13:58like a tiny bit of effort and awareness to be, to realize, you
- 1:14:01know, just exactly how fundamental it is.
- 1:14:03And like you said, when people are going to war and they have
- 1:14:06every oz that's in their bag is accounted for and every, every
- 1:14:09drop of weight that you carry, you know, is the difference
- 1:14:12being able to, you know, keep on going or, or, or not be able to,
- 1:14:16you know, that you want to be as resourceful and as, you know,
- 1:14:19it's, it's as, as efficient as possible.
- 1:14:23And this is then this is really, really, really, really beautiful
- 1:14:25and really, really valuable. So you know, I, I, I hope, I
- 1:14:30wish you, I wish a ton of ton of attack on a ton of good luck,
- 1:14:34Kazakh vehmat to keep, you know, to keep strong and to keep going
- 1:14:37forward and, and to keep to keep tapping into that, into that
- 1:14:41positive energy of, of community and family and, and pursuit and
- 1:14:46pursuit for the sake of meaning and purpose as opposed to, you
- 1:14:50know, for ego, the bottom line, or, you know, whatever else
- 1:14:53that, you know, kind of taints our taints our otherwise pure
- 1:14:57motives. So thank you so, so much for
- 1:15:00taking the time. This is so much fun.
- 1:15:02Thank you, God bless you from Israel and Shalu of Shalom you
- 1:15:06should. Be in touch and lots of luck.
- 1:15:08Lots of Osaka. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
- 1:15:11Paying for priests, paying. Praying for peace.
- 1:15:13Take care. Thank you so much for doing
- 1:15:14this. Talk to you soon.
- 1:15:16Bye.