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August 18, 2026 | Banning Islam? / South Carolina and South Korea/ Ossoff’s Smear · The M&M Experience

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Speaker 2: for things you don't bring up.
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Speaker 3: I should never remever, the segment you don't do. So
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Speaker 3: what did you do? You never regret the segment you
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Speaker 3: didn't do. I did a segment on the effort by some.
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Speaker 2: Texas politicians to ban Islam and Sharia law and mosques.
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Speaker 2: It's your fault. This is your fault. It is you
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Speaker 2: kept talking about the mosque. You called it the mosque ban.
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Speaker 2: And so I find this article by Sarah Bajari from
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Speaker 2: the Dallas Morning News and full disclosure, that's a leftist there.
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Speaker 2: They're a left leaning paper, right, not fair to call it.
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Speaker 2: They're not a conservative publication by an experience, right, And
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Speaker 2: you wrote for them for a while, right.
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Speaker 3: I did. The relationship was good and long until it
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Speaker 3: was not. And then I found a lovely, lovely home
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Speaker 3: where I originally started writing when I came back to
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Speaker 3: my native Texas in nineteen ninety four. If the Fort
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Speaker 3: Worth Star Telegram then news tough times in the newspaper biz,
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Speaker 3: their freelance budget also known as me and some others
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Speaker 3: just evaporated. So now my typed words are found in
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Speaker 3: the great pages of the Dallas Express. But don't let
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Speaker 3: me bog down.
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Speaker 2: Continue well, and just a kudos to you from the
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Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News of the Fort Worth Star Telegram to
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Speaker 2: your occasional work. I know you've written for a newsweek.
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Speaker 2: You're a great writer, and you have tremendous respect in
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Speaker 2: that space, and that's a real testament to the great
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Speaker 2: work that you do. So yeah, I opened up my
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Speaker 2: big fat mouth and said I'm not real sure it's
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Speaker 2: such a great idea to go around banning Islam, and
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Speaker 2: people got fired up. I mean, I was surprised at
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Speaker 2: the number of people who think we basically should. One
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Speaker 2: guy suggested to me, well, here's what we do. You
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Speaker 2: don't ban Islam, but you round them all up and
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Speaker 2: you make them take an oath.
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Speaker 3: Starts with round them all up.
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Speaker 2: You know, yes, it maybe go dark.
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Speaker 3: So we used to what.
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Speaker 2: Used to be one of my favorite expressions. In fact,
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Speaker 2: years ago, I used to say, round them up, round
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Speaker 2: them up. And Peter Reefa, who is our creative services
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Speaker 2: guy back in the day, he used to take that
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Speaker 2: and make promos out of it. But he said, round
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Speaker 2: them up and make them swear an oath that make
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Speaker 2: them take an allegiance to the United States of America. Well,
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Speaker 2: good luck with.
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Speaker 3: How because that I can hear people yelling at us
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Speaker 3: even in the podcast based going Takiya, which is with
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Speaker 3: that enabled, which is true, that that empowers them to
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Speaker 3: lie when it's when it's necessary to advance the cause,
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Speaker 3: so that these people can't win. They just can't win.
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Speaker 3: And what do you mean, what do you mean these people?
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Speaker 3: Let's call it, let's call it the good Muslims, the
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Speaker 3: people who are in your heart and mind, the folks
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Speaker 3: who are probably sort of doing Koran light, you know,
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Speaker 3: the folks who believe and there is no God but Allah,
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Speaker 3: and Mohammed is his prophet. But nine to eleven was bad,
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Speaker 3: and we don't want to do Sharia law and we
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Speaker 3: don't want to have honor killings. And it's funny. So
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Speaker 3: what are we to believe about those people? Are they
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Speaker 3: kind of wishy washy Swiss Cheese Muslims in the way
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Speaker 3: that we identify Christians who kind of play it way
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Speaker 3: to Lucy Goosey.
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Speaker 2: Are they afraid? Are they afraid of fellow Muslims who
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Speaker 2: might turn against them?
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Speaker 3: They should be, because do you know what made Osama
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Speaker 3: bin Laden more angry than anything? Was it Americans?
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Speaker 2: Nope?
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Speaker 3: Was it Jews? Nope? It was Muslims who fell from
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Speaker 3: the flock. If you strayed from the path, I mean,
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Speaker 3: that was like tippy top of his list. So I
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Speaker 3: don't want to hear more about what happened to you
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Speaker 3: in this because I feel for you, My heart is
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Speaker 3: with you, and I know exactly what you mean. But
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Speaker 3: I also know what these other folks met and who
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Speaker 3: probably lit you up like a Christmas tree. We'll saying
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Speaker 3: that vigilance. Vigilance requires being ahead of the game and
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Speaker 3: recognizing that we just don't know which mosques are going
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Speaker 3: to be part of the Islamic takeover and which are
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Speaker 3: not true.
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Speaker 2: And I just so deeply, deeply revere religious liberty. I've
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Speaker 2: watched Christians get feed up for as long as I've
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Speaker 2: been alive, and I'm tired of seeing religious bigotry disguised
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Speaker 2: as something else. And I don't like the idea of
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Speaker 2: turning around and saying, Okay, we're cynical, we're leary of
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Speaker 2: what you folks stand for, and so we're going to
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Speaker 2: start And this Dallas Morning News article again, big disclosure here,
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Speaker 2: they are leftist. So I don't know what to be.
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Speaker 3: A writer again, because I don't think it's an article.
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Speaker 2: Sarah Bahari b a h ar I, and she writes
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Speaker 2: about how Texas Republicans are offering a blueprint of a
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Speaker 2: plan to ban Islam and Sharia. Now, I'm all on
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Speaker 2: board with banning sharial law. Juria law is incompatible with
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Speaker 2: our country, incompatible with everything that we stand for with
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Speaker 2: rules and legislation, But banning Islam, she writes a ban
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Speaker 2: on the sale of halal foods. His jobs forbidden in
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Speaker 2: the public schools, required school lessons on the violence and
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Speaker 2: political domination of Islam. Somebody sent me a text today
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Speaker 2: from the Wall Street Journal that breaks down the difference
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Speaker 2: between a Muslim and an Islamist, and a lot of
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Speaker 2: people really appreciated this. Let me read it to you.
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Speaker 2: A Muslim is a person who practices the religion of Islam.
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Speaker 2: An Islamist is someone who follows a political ideology that
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Speaker 2: says Islam should control the government and laws of a society.
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Speaker 2: Being a Muslim, it says, is a matter of personal faith,
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Speaker 2: while being in his lawmist is a political goal. So
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Speaker 2: you know this is they're instricable.
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Speaker 3: They might be inextricable because as true and as I mean,
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Speaker 3: as worthy as that is, there is is woven through
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Speaker 3: the Koran, the complete moral, religious, theological necessity to advance
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Speaker 3: the faith by the sword, to envelop it in political systems.
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Speaker 3: So this notion of well, you know, if they're just
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Speaker 3: following the Koran, they don't want to kill anybody. The
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Speaker 3: nine to eleven hijackers were not radical, they were true believers.
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Speaker 3: The radicals may be, and follow me closely here. The
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Speaker 3: radicals may be the ones who are trying to carve
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Speaker 3: out a non violent way to practice the faith, and
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Speaker 3: God bless them, God bless them in that effort. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: we don't know which ones are which. And I want
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Speaker 3: to give grace and latitude to people to whatever extent
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Speaker 3: I can. But if these people are looking at what's
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Speaker 3: going on across North Texas and saying, hell, no, we're
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Speaker 3: not going to be Minnesota, we are not going to
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Speaker 3: be Europe, I don't blame the dearborn. I had dearborn
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Speaker 3: machine itself on dearborn Michigan exactly. So I've got Congressman
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Speaker 3: Key selfon yesterday, and at the end, I said, is
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Speaker 3: there a mosque expansion? Is there a mosque application anywhere
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Speaker 3: in North Texas that you could see and go that
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Speaker 3: probably looks Okay, he said, there is not, and I went, ookay,
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Speaker 3: here we are. The mosque band is now on the table.
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Speaker 3: And I as harsh as it sounds, and as everybody
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Speaker 3: who who I've offered this up to, said, we don't
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Speaker 3: care what anybody believes. This is not religious bigotry. This
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Speaker 3: is protecting ourselves against a faith, the underbelly of which
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Speaker 3: contains things that are simply not compatible with the American
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Speaker 3: system of law. And they're not wrong.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's take on though, the idea of your
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Speaker 2: protecting a community from things that are incompatible. And now
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Speaker 2: you're completely right on the issue of sure real law
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Speaker 2: that I agree with. Governor Abbott has indicated he wants
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Speaker 2: that band to be in effect in twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: They're going to try to advance that legislation. But a
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Speaker 2: ban on mosques, is that protecting a community? A ban
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Speaker 2: on his jobs? Is that protecting a community a ban
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Speaker 2: on the types of food?
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Speaker 1: Food?
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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, let's make a list. I don't care
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Speaker 3: about food, and I don't care what anybody wears, so
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Speaker 3: that those are the trappings of faith, and a mosque
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Speaker 3: you care about a place of work. The mosque is
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Speaker 3: the building. So let's say in fictitious hypothetical town along
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Speaker 3: comes in Islamic committee says, hey, we want to build
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Speaker 3: a mosque out on Highway sixty six. So one of
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Speaker 3: two things is true. It's either just another place of
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Speaker 3: worship in a nation of pluralistic religious beliefs. It's just
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Speaker 3: another place of worship, or it's not. There's no way
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Speaker 3: to know ahead of time, and it seems presumptuous to
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Speaker 3: instantly presume, well, they're going to have honor killings in
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Speaker 3: the parking lot every Wednesday, because you don't know anything
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Speaker 3: of the kind. But people are in the mood to
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Speaker 3: be overprotective at the moment because they don't want to
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Speaker 3: be underprotected.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I mean, I suppose I get that. I
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Speaker 2: am really really uncomfortable with telling, uh, somebody who practices
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Speaker 2: Islam that you're not going to be it. We're not
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Speaker 2: going to build a place for you to worship in
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Speaker 2: a community somebody. In this article, they quote State Representative
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Speaker 2: Salmon Bujani. He's a Democrat who represents a big swath
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Speaker 2: of Terran County, Texas. He said he's deeply troubled by
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Speaker 2: all of this. He was by the way he was
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Speaker 2: elected as the first Muslim in the Texas House, and
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Speaker 2: he has said, he said, this movement, this effort seems
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Speaker 2: personal to him. He said, Texas Muslims are not a
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Speaker 2: threat to the state. We are part of it. We
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Speaker 2: build it, we serve in its military, we run its businesses,
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Speaker 2: we teach its children. We deserve better than a blueprint
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Speaker 2: that treats us like the enemy.
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Speaker 3: And understand him completely. And all the glowing words that
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Speaker 3: he affixes to the community deserve to be affixed to
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Speaker 3: the people who are or a gem or jewels in
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Speaker 3: the crown of our multicultural state and area. But in there,
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Speaker 3: but in there, among that community are folks who are
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Speaker 3: absolutely plotting to subvert our way of life. And there's
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Speaker 3: no magic fairy dust to sprinkle over them to figure
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Speaker 3: out which ones they are. And there are those who say,
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Speaker 3: you know what, screw it, I'm done, and that that
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Speaker 3: may seem heavy handed, but I don't think they are
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Speaker 3: to be pigeonholed as bigots.
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Speaker 2: Oh I don't either.
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Speaker 3: I got it. I think we got to figure this out.
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Speaker 3: But you know, one of the best lessons, let's not
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Speaker 3: bury the lead. Because you offer this to me this
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Speaker 3: morning on the radio. No matter how anybody feels about this,
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Speaker 3: you do have to ask ask the question is this helpful?
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Speaker 3: You know, seventy some days before the midterms, does this
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Speaker 3: win over independence? I mean it makes everybody, all the
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Speaker 3: true believers and the maga folks and the hardcore conservatives go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But so it does not. It does not. It
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Speaker 2: does not.
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Speaker 3: It does not do us any favors. When we do
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Speaker 3: have to win over we do have to win over
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Speaker 3: some independence. We got to win over some moderates, maybe
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Speaker 3: even some Democrats who are appalled at the train wreck,
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Speaker 3: the crap show that the Democrat Party of twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: six has become my lord in heaven above. I'm at
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Speaker 3: a point where now I started the show today talking
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Speaker 3: about all this evil. They're raising money for this woman
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Speaker 3: who murdered her babies. They've raised money for, you know,
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Speaker 3: Carmelo Anthony, they raised money for Luigi Mangione. These murderers
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Speaker 3: have one thing in common, Mark, They've got fan clubs,
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Speaker 3: they got people who actually lift them up and are
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Speaker 3: hoping that they're going to prevail, and they've committed acts
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Speaker 3: of cold blooded murder. You know what's interesting about the
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Speaker 3: Luigi thing and I want to bounce this off you here.
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Speaker 2: By the way, one more note about the Muslim, the
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Speaker 2: so called Muslim ban. It was a Dallas, Texas Texter
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Speaker 2: who pointed out to me in their criticism of my
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Speaker 2: sort of position here that uncomfortable with banning, you know,
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Speaker 2: a religion. Dallas wrote, Mike, you have what is called
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Speaker 2: suicidal God. Sad wrote a book about Muslim immigrants, and
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Speaker 2: it was called Gad Sad Ad Sod God said he
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Speaker 2: wrote a book about muslimmigration. The book was called suicidal
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Speaker 2: suicidal empathy. Mike, that could have been you.
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Speaker 3: It's an interesting concept, the concept which just floated often.
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Speaker 3: It is that there's a human desire, there's a desire
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Speaker 3: in the human heart to be kind, to do outreach.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: It is said that America had suicidal empathy, has had
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Speaker 3: suicidal empathy when we decided to welcome absolutely everybody with
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Speaker 3: a pulsey to our shores, well our look, we're going
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Speaker 3: to die. You've got to draw the line somewhere. So
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Speaker 3: look how that worked out. Yep, yep, yep. So let's
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Speaker 3: go forward here for a moment with Luigi. You know
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Speaker 3: one thing that I've noticed, and I wonder if you've
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Speaker 3: seen the same thing. When this first happened, and and
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Speaker 3: everybody was properly appalled at this awful assassination of Brian Thompson,
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Speaker 3: the United Healthcare CEO. Did you did you take calls
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Speaker 3: from people who sort of had empathy for Luigi that
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Speaker 3: that that that understood why he did what he did?
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Speaker 3: Did you take any on air calls from people who
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Speaker 3: were I did not gotten them. I would have taken him,
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Speaker 3: that would have gone front of the line. I did not.
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Speaker 3: I was aware of and tracked the online reaction of
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Speaker 3: people who said, well, maybe this like he's like we said,
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Speaker 3: starts the conversation. Oh made a point. But did I
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Speaker 3: actually get somebody you know Bill and Grapevine and thinks
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Speaker 3: the killing was great? You're on you know that that
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Speaker 3: did not happen, did you?
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Speaker 2: I did? I did. I got a handful. I bet
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Speaker 2: I got more than a handful for those first couple
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Speaker 2: of weeks, and I thought, my lord, what am I
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Speaker 2: dealing with? Here? Is my audience a bunch of cold,
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Speaker 2: bloody killers? Are they bloodthirsty? You know, chomping at the
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Speaker 2: bit killers? Because people were giving me all their healthcare
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Speaker 2: horror stories, all their you know how they'd been denied service,
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Speaker 2: and they'd been denied coverage and they had that and
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Speaker 2: that was apparently his gripe was that he had a
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Speaker 2: bad back or surgery that went wrong and he couldn't
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Speaker 2: he got claims denied, which is, by the way, he's
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Speaker 2: a wealthy kid, he's a trust fund baby. He's got
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Speaker 2: his family brought out the best lawyer's money could buy,
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Speaker 2: and he's getting the best legal defense he's ever gonna
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Speaker 2: anybody could ever get. So that I don't buy that
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Speaker 2: for a moment. And incidentally, United Healthcare wasn't even the
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Speaker 2: insurance company he was involved in. So he just targeted
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Speaker 2: Brian Thompson just because he wanted to kill He wanted
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Speaker 2: to make a statement. But here's what I was going
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Speaker 2: to point out. I think I was so scarred by
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Speaker 2: those calls early on, then I'll never forget that. But
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Speaker 2: these days, it's really hard to find a lot of
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Speaker 2: support in our audience for Luigi Manngione. I think that
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Speaker 2: ship has maybe sailed. Maybe people know, hey, he did it,
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Speaker 2: he's admitted it, he's confessed, and he's a monster, and
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Speaker 2: maybe thankfully maybe the tide has turned a little bit
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Speaker 2: and people will stop being sympathetic for a cowardly, cold
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Speaker 2: blooded killer who sneaks up behind a guy and pumps
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Speaker 2: a bunch of bullets in his back.
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Speaker 3: I think the phenomenon you witnessed was momentary. I think
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Speaker 3: some of it was kind of a human another human
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Speaker 4: I'm making it much safer. You see, I'm actually making
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Speaker 3: So we're in a whole new era now from her perspective.
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Speaker 3: To have I have info. I'm not totally insane. Sixteen
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Speaker 3: year old rider Williams. No, it wasn't his first day,
24:13
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Speaker 2: Well, and he kept his cool. Can you imagine a
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Speaker 2: sixteen year old sitting in the Oval office and he
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24:33
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24:36
Speaker 2: she's being disrespectful? The kid probably wet himself. I mean,
24:39
Speaker 2: what's heed, what's he supposed to do? I mean, you
24:42
Speaker 2: don't want to you know, I mean that's hysterical. I
24:45
Speaker 2: mean that was one of the funniest things. And look,
24:47
Speaker 2: it's not comfortable to disagree with Donald J. Trump, and
24:52
Speaker 2: I'm in an uncomfortable place tonight is the big debate
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Speaker 2: between Ralph Norman and Darlene Graham. No you don't. Here
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Speaker 2: we go. And by the way, I got invited to
25:03
Speaker 2: be on Newsmax and I don't want anything to do
25:06
Speaker 2: with that. They wanted me to come in and comment
25:08
Speaker 2: on the debate, and they knew that I was spent
25:10
Speaker 2: a lot of time. And look my TV days. You
25:13
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25:17
Speaker 3: And you I don't run video that you want to
25:19
Speaker 3: see mic? Those are the places to see MIC. And
25:22
Speaker 3: that's a I just I don't.
25:23
Speaker 2: Want to do TV anymore. It's the weird.
25:26
Speaker 3: And they were like Meanwhile, I will hoore myself out
25:28
Speaker 3: to absolutely anybody, anybody.
25:30
Speaker 2: Who Oh, you'll you'll drive over a station wagon full
25:32
Speaker 2: of nuns. I mean you will, you will well, But
25:35
Speaker 2: people love it and you're great at it. And when
25:38
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25:41
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25:43
Speaker 2: cheer when I see you with the even.
25:47
Speaker 3: Want to do something this week, I'm told that I'm
25:49
Speaker 3: doing a van to the house. I always enjoy that.
25:52
Speaker 2: Well, they and they offer to do that with me.
25:53
Speaker 2: They said, we can bring a van. First of all,
25:55
Speaker 2: I don't have a driveway.
25:56
Speaker 3: Where are you going to put the van, you know,
25:58
Speaker 3: out of my condo down in the elevator out into
26:00
Speaker 3: the parking lot.
26:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ain't gonna work. It's a parking garage. And
26:04
Speaker 2: I don't think your your truck will fit in the garage.
26:07
Speaker 2: I just have no desire. And the lady was so
26:10
Speaker 2: nice and she was trying to persuade me, and I'm like,
26:12
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna do a great job, and I
26:14
Speaker 2: be goes Mike. We would love to get you on Newsmax.
26:16
Speaker 2: We watched you on Fox News. Blah, blah blah. I'm like, no,
26:18
Speaker 2: I'm not interested. I thank you, it's gonna it's a
26:22
Speaker 2: time I've been I kind of fibbed so well, there's
26:24
Speaker 2: a time conflict. But I don't want to I got
26:27
Speaker 2: no desire.
26:28
Speaker 3: But this this is before we even get to Newsmax
26:31
Speaker 3: and how they are a part of the story of
26:33
Speaker 3: the campaign and some of its where Darlene's people do
26:36
Speaker 3: not like newsman, not like you lie awake to night
26:39
Speaker 3: worrying about what the Graham nor Don campaign things about you.
26:43
Speaker 3: But remind everybody, how are your friend and our great
26:47
Speaker 3: hero in South Carolina. Joey Hudson got bounced from from
26:50
Speaker 3: tonight's debate panel for because the Graham campaign has as
26:56
Speaker 3: a bug up it's but about newsback.
26:57
Speaker 2: So when the South Carolina g headed by a guy
27:01
Speaker 2: named Drew McKissick, announced this debate tonight and this will
27:04
Speaker 2: be the last chance, basically that a television audience is
27:08
Speaker 2: going to get to see Darlene Graham nordone square off
27:12
Speaker 2: against Ralph Norman and they're running in this special election
27:14
Speaker 2: to fill the seat vacated by her older brother Lindsay
27:18
Speaker 2: Graham and his untimely heart attack. At age seventy one
27:21
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. So they announced this partnership with Newsmax.
27:25
Speaker 2: And then they reached out to Joey a couple of
27:27
Speaker 2: weeks ago when they knew this was going to happen.
27:29
Speaker 2: They said, Joey, would you like to be a moderator?
27:31
Speaker 2: He said, of course, I'd be happy to. And he's
27:33
Speaker 2: done a lot of these events. Joey is mister South Carolina.
27:36
Speaker 2: He is everywhere. He's respected, he is admired, he's fair,
27:41
Speaker 2: he's even handed. I mean, look, he is not a
27:44
Speaker 2: blustery guy and kind of a guy. He's all business
27:48
Speaker 2: and he's and of course one of my dearest friends
27:50
Speaker 2: in the world. So we go back. I'm not kiddy
27:53
Speaker 2: you nearly forty years. So that's how long Joey and
27:56
Speaker 2: Peg have been in my life. And so you know,
27:59
Speaker 2: and then apparently the Graham camp, the Graham Nordon campaign. Sorry,
28:04
Speaker 2: I can't call her Graham? Are you say?
28:06
Speaker 3: Are you calling her?
28:07
Speaker 2: Are you her name is Nordon?
28:09
Speaker 3: Of course it is. She's on the ballot as Darlene Graham.
28:13
Speaker 3: A lot of people weren't married name. I totally get
28:15
Speaker 3: it because that it's name recognition is part of campaign optics.
28:20
Speaker 3: I totally understand why she's doing it, but are you
28:22
Speaker 3: a fit? Are you sort of fixing the married name?
28:26
Speaker 3: Not as a slight or anything, but it's.
28:28
Speaker 2: Just just the wrong thing. It's just a great say.
28:30
Speaker 2: She's not a brand. Her name is Darlene.
28:33
Speaker 3: Graham's politician is a brand.
28:35
Speaker 2: But you don't drop your name two weeks before the
28:38
Speaker 2: election just because she wanted to be more familiar.
28:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know, you do.
28:44
Speaker 2: Well, if that's what it's going to take for her
28:45
Speaker 2: to win, they're in trouble. Uh and and we're gonna
28:48
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play for you a clip from a guy
28:50
Speaker 2: over at the Daily Signal who was on NBC's Meet
28:53
Speaker 2: the Press Sunday saying she may be a Lisa Murkowski
28:57
Speaker 2: two point zero. But anyway, the point of all this
28:59
Speaker 2: is so the Graham Nordme campaign said, we don't really
29:03
Speaker 2: like Newsmax. They're red meat. They're probably Ralph Norman friendly.
29:08
Speaker 2: We want to bring in public television. We're gonna walk,
29:11
Speaker 2: we won't do the debate. Darlene will refuse to do
29:15
Speaker 2: the debate unless you bring in public television of South Carolina,
29:19
Speaker 2: which is known as ETV. And you bring in South
29:23
Speaker 2: Carolina ETV as a simulcast and bring one of their anchors.
29:28
Speaker 2: We'll go ahead and do the debate. Now, how Joey
29:32
Speaker 2: got bumped is a matter of dispute. The Graham Nordme
29:36
Speaker 2: campaign is blaming Drew McKissick and the South Carolina GOP.
29:40
Speaker 2: The South Carolina GOP and Drew McKissick are blaming the
29:42
Speaker 2: Graham Nordme campaign. They're saying that there wasn't enough room
29:47
Speaker 2: for four moderators, and when ETV came in, they had
29:51
Speaker 2: to basically bump Joey Hudson. So Joey's on the sideline.
29:55
Speaker 2: So I'm good and ticked off about the whole thing anyway,
29:58
Speaker 2: because you screw Joey just like anybody who would screw
30:02
Speaker 2: with you. You're screwing with me.
30:05
Speaker 3: Backs and we got each other's those tracking a week
30:08
Speaker 3: ish ago. You you're pretty bold and saying Darlene was
30:11
Speaker 3: going to win, and win pretty substantially. Listen, new information
30:15
Speaker 3: brings new opinions. Everybody can be very fluid about this.
30:19
Speaker 3: So I give you all the latitude and do that.
30:21
Speaker 3: I almost want to check by the day, and let's
30:23
Speaker 3: check tomorrow after the debate and see how everybody does. Now,
30:25
Speaker 3: would you say you still kind of thing she's going
30:27
Speaker 3: to because I still think it's Ralph Norman. I thought
30:29
Speaker 3: Ralph Norman's going to win from the beginning, and I
30:31
Speaker 3: may be wrong. I don't know, But where is it
30:33
Speaker 3: right now? In this right now?
30:34
Speaker 2: President Trump announced he's going to South Carolina Friday night.
30:38
Speaker 2: There's going to be a big in person rally hosted
30:41
Speaker 2: by President Trump. Look, he's obviously all in for her,
30:45
Speaker 2: which is part of the mystery, because no one quite
30:47
Speaker 2: understands how you how you can get a presidential endorsement
30:51
Speaker 2: with zero track record. It's for me, It's there's two
30:54
Speaker 2: factors that played with Trump. Number one, he loved her brother.
30:58
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31:02
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31:07
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31:10
Speaker 2: was giving Trump bad advice about things like, oh, I
31:12
Speaker 2: don't know Iran, Ukraine, you name it, because Lindsay never
31:15
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31:18
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31:23
Speaker 2: and number two, Trump has a long memory. Don't forget
31:28
Speaker 2: Ralph Norman endorsed Nicky Hayley over Donald Trump. Big mistake.
31:34
Speaker 2: It was a dumb thing to do then, and I
31:36
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31:39
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? He was loyal to Nicky? Nicky
31:42
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31:45
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31:50
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31:53
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31:56
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31:59
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32:02
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32:04
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32:06
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32:09
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32:13
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32:16
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32:19
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32:22
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36:00
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Speaker 5: Ralph Erman has a difficult spot here.
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Speaker 6: He's got to essentially attack someone who is a very
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Speaker 5: How does he thread that needle? Is that argument effective?
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Speaker 6: Well, there is quite a contrast here, Garrett, because I
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Speaker 6: mean Ralph Norman does have a conservative voting record and
36:19
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36:27
Speaker 6: at that, whereas Darlene Graham has been in Washington for
36:30
Speaker 6: what just a few weeks, doesn't necessarily have that track record.
36:33
Speaker 6: It's anyone's guess whether she's going to go the rout
36:35
Speaker 6: of Alisa Berkowski Susan Collins, or whether she's going to
36:38
Speaker 6: be more in the conservative camp. I don't know, And
36:41
Speaker 6: I think the voters of South Carolina have a big decision.
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Speaker 2: They sure do, and it's going to be a big
36:47
Speaker 2: and tonight maybe the debate, and we'll revisit this tomorrow
36:50
Speaker 2: after the debate, we'll see how this is.
36:52
Speaker 3: I don't spend a lot of time, and I don't
36:53
Speaker 3: think you and I have spent a lot of time.
36:54
Speaker 3: I mean, we care about the whole world. And if
36:56
Speaker 3: there's any really important trouble spot in the world, it's
36:58
Speaker 3: the Korean peninsula. And it's been a weird rollercoaster ride.
37:02
Speaker 3: And there's something pretty kind of magical about Trump reaching
37:05
Speaker 3: out to Kim Jong un in that kind of personal,
37:08
Speaker 3: transactional way. And I just tell you I haven't lost
37:12
Speaker 3: any sleep about North Korea of late. I feel like
37:14
Speaker 3: that's a relationship that's kind of been managed. So did
37:17
Speaker 3: you notice yesterday when President Trump said, yeah, these military
37:21
Speaker 3: exercises that we've been doing with South Korea like forever
37:24
Speaker 3: to sort of deliver the message to the North, don't
37:26
Speaker 3: jack with us, don't jack with the South. There are guys.
37:29
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the Mike Gallagher philosophy. Mess with
37:32
Speaker 3: my friends, you mess with me. And he said, I'm
37:36
Speaker 3: dialing those back. Did South Korea get slow on the
37:38
Speaker 3: uptake in helping us out with Iran? Because he essentially
37:41
Speaker 3: said it sends the wrong message to Kim Jong un
37:46
Speaker 3: that were kind of overtly hostile to him. I always
37:49
Speaker 3: try to ask, if something looks a little weird for
37:52
Speaker 3: the first millisecond, what's he trying to do? What's he
37:55
Speaker 3: trying to do? So Mike as the Trump whisper, the
37:58
Speaker 3: Trump channeler, what do you think he's trying to do.
38:02
Speaker 2: He's a big believer in keeping your your friends close
38:05
Speaker 2: and your enemies closer. He is a believer in not
38:09
Speaker 2: having a conflict with a with another superpower. It's why
38:13
Speaker 2: he kind of plays foot seat with Vladimir Putin's. And
38:17
Speaker 2: I've asked this question over and over again. Would you
38:19
Speaker 2: rather we go to war with Russia? You know, I
38:22
Speaker 2: mean Russia could aim a whole lot of warheads and
38:24
Speaker 2: a whole lot of bad directions. I think he feels
38:26
Speaker 2: the same way about Kim Jong un and North Korea.
38:29
Speaker 2: He'd rather get along with these bad guys than have
38:34
Speaker 2: to fight them. And look what he did with the
38:36
Speaker 2: Mulos of Iran. You know, they they were going to
38:38
Speaker 2: possess a nuclear weapon. He knew that was a non starter,
38:43
Speaker 2: and he's made sure that they couldn't do that. But
38:46
Speaker 2: but I also think he kind of enjoys it. I
38:48
Speaker 2: think he tweaks his enemies, his opponents, by coozing up
38:53
Speaker 2: to the to the dictators and the tyrants of the world.
38:56
Speaker 2: It's the ultimate troll. He's trolling his critics by saying, well,
39:01
Speaker 2: I'd rather get along with Kim jonglan than not.
39:03
Speaker 3: It makes them crazy, and it does. It gives them
39:06
Speaker 3: this narrative that they think is useful. Boy Trump treats
39:11
Speaker 3: our enemies like friends and our friends like enemies.
39:14
Speaker 2: But not so much.
39:15
Speaker 1: Some of our.
39:16
Speaker 3: Allies have been coddled for too long and need a
39:18
Speaker 3: little wake up call, like NATO and some of our enemies,
39:21
Speaker 3: they are enemies. They are adversaries, They are rivals that
39:25
Speaker 3: maybe if you kind of wheedle them in that real
39:27
Speaker 3: estate mogul billionaire transactional way. They are less of a
39:33
Speaker 3: danger to us and to the world than they are
39:35
Speaker 3: if we just antagonize them every day.
39:37
Speaker 2: Amen. Well, speaking of antagonizing, you know, I don't like
39:41
Speaker 2: using the word trash about any other person. I just
39:45
Speaker 2: don't like to do it. It makes me a little bit uncomfortable.
39:47
Speaker 2: But when I saw what John Assoff did this week,
39:50
Speaker 2: the only word that came to mind is just pure trash.
39:54
Speaker 2: This guy is garbage explained for the benefit of people
39:59
Speaker 2: who aren't aware what he said at a campaign rally
40:02
Speaker 2: this week about the President of the United States.
40:05
Speaker 3: I'll set it up and then yasmen, it was kind
40:07
Speaker 3: enough to harvest it when I send it to her
40:08
Speaker 3: this morning, and we will play it. Just takes about
40:10
Speaker 3: thirty seconds. He's on the campaign trail in Georgia and
40:13
Speaker 3: he's bagging on Trump to the surprise of no one.
40:15
Speaker 3: It's another day ending and why they're going to bag
40:18
Speaker 3: on Trump. His point is that he doesn't really want
40:20
Speaker 3: to do the job. He's sleeping through meetings, he doesn't
40:23
Speaker 3: seem to be relative, all of which is just garden
40:25
Speaker 3: variety bs and listen, you can gauge that however you
40:29
Speaker 3: want in terms of the effectiveness of his attack on Trump.
40:32
Speaker 3: But then he says that what President Trump all he
40:35
Speaker 3: really wants to do. I'll pause right there and let
40:38
Speaker 3: John ass Off in remarks that he clearly envisioned. Maybe
40:43
Speaker 3: he did do this on the fly. I don't know.
40:45
Speaker 3: But here just to get about twenty seconds in what
40:48
Speaker 3: this senator, there's this senator who seeks to keep his
40:51
Speaker 3: job in the state of Georgia. What the methodology he
40:56
Speaker 3: uses to go after Trump? And what Trump really wants
40:58
Speaker 3: to do? And the unwitting victim that he drags into
41:02
Speaker 3: his treacherous little game.
41:05
Speaker 5: And while the sailors on the Lincoln fight his war,
41:10
Speaker 5: while he fruitlessly drains our munitions and oil reserves, the
41:15
Speaker 5: President sleeps through his meetings, He golfs and trade stocks. See,
41:23
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to do the job. He wants to
41:28
Speaker 5: build his ballroom and travel with Natalie on their apparently
41:31
Speaker 5: defenseless flying palace gifted by the Emir of Qatar.
41:37
Speaker 3: Show of hands, Show of hands. And everybody can be
41:40
Speaker 3: excused for asking while they saw that clip, who the
41:43
Speaker 3: heck is Natalie? And the answer is She's not Stephen Miller.
41:47
Speaker 3: She's not at Susie Wiles, a chief of staff, upfront
41:50
Speaker 3: advisor on TV all the time, or anything that is
41:52
Speaker 3: Natalie Harp, this magnificent woman. She was on TV with
41:56
Speaker 3: onn for a while and spoke at the Republican Invention
42:00
Speaker 3: thanking Trump for the right to try legislation that said, look,
42:04
Speaker 3: if you got something that might kill you, maybe you've
42:07
Speaker 3: got a right to try some things that will fast
42:09
Speaker 3: track through the Food and Drug Administration so you can
42:11
Speaker 3: try him, you know, why not. And she credits that
42:14
Speaker 3: with helping her with her rare bone cancer. She's Trump's
42:19
Speaker 3: right hand. She is Trump's trusted aid. And that is
42:22
Speaker 3: John Assoff calling her a whore. That is John Assoff
42:26
Speaker 3: calling her a slut. Listen, you can say that Trump's
42:28
Speaker 3: trying to sleep with all the beautiful ladies around him,
42:31
Speaker 3: and that is a cute cadre a ladies around him
42:32
Speaker 3: in a given moment. But the notion that he's, you know,
42:34
Speaker 3: having sex with him, is holly without basis. And if
42:38
Speaker 3: you go after him, but maybe he's still the billionaire
42:40
Speaker 3: playboy and grab him by the whatever, I mean, I
42:42
Speaker 3: get it, I get that's him. He's a big boy,
42:44
Speaker 3: he can take it. But the savagery and the smear
42:48
Speaker 3: of Natalie Harp by this man, child like you, my
42:53
Speaker 3: bar for outrage is pretty high. Look at the stuff
42:57
Speaker 3: we have to take every day. Mike, I was just
42:59
Speaker 3: so live it about this. What what? What a execrable
43:04
Speaker 3: loathsome thing for this man to do?
43:06
Speaker 2: Well, he's scum. He's absolute, unadulterated scum. This is trash.
43:11
Speaker 2: He tried to walk it back because it blew up
43:13
Speaker 2: in his face. I mean, he got a lot of
43:15
Speaker 2: pushback for this. People were accusing him, even on the
43:19
Speaker 2: on the left, Democrats are saying, that's misogynistic, that is sexist.
43:22
Speaker 2: What do you do, You're just picking on the young
43:25
Speaker 2: female aid as somebody that Trump is automatically sleeping with.
43:29
Speaker 2: It was. It was a disgustingly low blow and a
43:32
Speaker 2: cheap shot. But Mark, this is who these people are.
43:35
Speaker 2: That's who he is. John Asoff is just scum and garbage.
43:38
Speaker 2: And may the voters understand it. Hey, if you're if
43:41
Speaker 2: you're part of our podcast today, Texas, I mean Florida, Alaska, Wyoming, California,
43:48
Speaker 2: you gotta get out and vote. That's the only way
43:51
Speaker 2: We're going to get this country give back, trying.
43:54
Speaker 3: To republic, not just the R by the name. That's
43:56
Speaker 3: not enough. Give us the right kind of Republicans. Please,
43:58
Speaker 3: if we can ask that of you.
44:00
Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, and amen, have a great Tuesday. Tomorrow we'll
44:03
Speaker 2: do debate wrap up and more on the M and
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Speaker 2: M extra. Thank you very much for tuning in. Thank you,
44:08
Speaker 2: mister Davis. You we'll see you tomorrow.