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Welcome to another specialty coffee Association Expo, bonus
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episode of the coffee people podcast, which as you already
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know, is part of the roast, West Coast Coffee Network and is
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I'm Ryan Walt. And this is the show where We
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engage with coffee industry. People in an effort to uplift,
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the community of craft coffee. Basically, I asked people, why
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do you do this? How did you get here?
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Why do you love coffee? What have you learned?
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And most importantly, what are you drinking today?
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Of course, we and by we, I mean, I occasionally, go out to get a
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cup of coffee, two weeks ago, we dropped our specialty, coffee
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Association, bonus episode number one, go check that out
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with Oops, of a bunch of guests, we met on the Friday of the
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annual event and today, I'll be sharing some clips from Saturday
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and Sunday. Overall, I had a great time both
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at the Expo and in Portland, I always enjoy my time in the city
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of roses. I ride my bike.
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I get coffee. I enjoy a beer and inevitably.
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I get rain down all of that happened on this trip, but
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luckily, all the coffee kept me warm.
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There was plenty of really good stuff.
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Really good Beans, really, good coffee.
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At the Engine Center, but I still made a point to visit a
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bunch of local shops. So shout out to case, study
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coffee great, North Alberta, press and 26 Cafe, just to name
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a few. Now that I'm home, I'm having a
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bit of a letdown not having a new neighborhood to explore
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every day. Thankfully my coffee friends at
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steady state, roasting are near by to pick me back up.
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This podcast coffee people is between Seasons, not that you
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following audio of me chatting, which is él era, Arredondo of
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roust in Cambridge Massachusetts.
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Yeah. So my name is Giselle Laura
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Arredondo. And I'm here, representing
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roust, which is a Coffee Shop Deli in Cambridge?
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I have to admit, I looked at your name tag, I thought your
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last name was Arredondo rust. Lera, Arredondo, most.
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Wow. That would be kind of cool
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because I like my name. Yeah.
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And also super long. And it's already really long
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name, but so you are representing roused.
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What is it that you do there? So I manage and I do a lot of
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the Education and Training for the entire company.
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Essentially very cool. Yeah.
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Why is coffee something that's important in your life, besides
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the fact that you work in? Yeah.
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Yeah well yeah, it is my livelihood.
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It's how I make it through this world financially but also I
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guess I love coffee. Probably since College, which I
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feel like is in when most people really get addicted to caffeine,
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I really actually got curious about coffee and Specialty
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coffee and so I took like a part-time job at just like a
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small like local independent place and they trained me really
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well, which I think is like why I've been really interested in
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Education and Training because I had such a good experience for
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That I learned so much that I was like, Wow, coffee is so
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cool. Like it's this plant that is
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grown you know kind of all over the world and there's all these
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different points at which different people sort of
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interact with this product. You know, at the same time can
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be really expensive and for the elite but also like the common
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everyday person like interacts with it.
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And yeah, I think it connects people in that way.
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Sure. Coffee is for the people.
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Yeah, I'm always in Pressed by how many when you mentioned, how
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many hands touch it? Whenever I drink a cup of coffee
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it's not just me in the Barista that had this experience.
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Yeah exactly. When you go out to get a cup of
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coffee at a new Cop Shop in Portland tomorrow, what are you
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going to order espresso? Perfect.
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So that you can see my drink of choice.
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Yes, I should also ask. So that was my second to last
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question. Okay.
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Last question is any other coffee businesses, roaster?
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He's coffee shops. Besides roast.
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Yeah. You want to shout out?
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Absolutely. We use broadsheet coffee
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roasters. Also, based in Cambridge
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Massachusetts, they're pretty small.
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They were started there. I think it was like, about two
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to three years ago and Aaron is the kind of owner found a
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roaster and Marty It's been really integral and just growing
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and kind of getting the word out about them but I really love
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them and square one coffee based in Lancaster Pennsylvania.
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So we use both of those registers at roast, after that
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chat. With Giselle, in The Press Room,
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I took to the convention Center's, vendor floor and
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interviewed passers-by at the roast.
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Our packaging Expo Booth. You can hear the energy exuding
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from the thousands of Highly caffeinated attendees in the
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background. My interview started on an
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international know When I was joined by Tandy of twig, a
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coffee. Of course, my name is tan deep,
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and I'm working with tweak, a coffee.
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So we were lucky enough to be invited with fair trade, and
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we've been doing some couple copying and some tasting with
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them. That's awesome Sandy, why do you
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love coffee? Well, actually a funny enough.
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I grew up around coffee, I'm originally from Kenya, so we
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grew up around some coffee Farms so I think you could say coffee
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is in my veins, essentially, that just, you know, a lot of
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How it's grown, it tastes and just the science behind coffee I
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think is just fascinating when you go to a coffee shop.
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But you never been to what do you order?
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I usually go for a cappuccino. I like more of the fruity, are
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kind of coffee blends with the berries Citrus taste in them.
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Very cool. And you said, can you tell us
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one more time, the name of your company.
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And where are you located? Yeah, so the name of our company
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is trigger coffee to wake up means Joy.
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I often so he lie kind of going back to my Kenyan roots and part
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of that means that we give 10% to wildlife conservation and
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we're looking in Sacramento but we sell you know, Nationwide.
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And we're lucky enough to have a row, stars are back manufacturer
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so very happy with that as well. As always, I'll share all the
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links from today's episode in the show notes and on roast
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westcoast.com. My next guest was Holly of tech
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wani design, and she shared her thoughts on how coffee tells a
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story. Awesome.
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My name is Holly shmita Scamp, and I work for take wani design
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company out of Denver Colorado. My question is for you, is, why
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is coffee important to you? Coffee is so important because
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it tells a story and I think, you know, people are made of
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stories and I think coffee is such a great way to connect with
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people. For their stories that then also
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I love hearing about the origin. You know, I love to hear
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specifically meeting producers and hearing you know how long
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they've been involved in coffee. You know why people are
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importing or exporting, you know.
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And then also Roasters like are very passionate group of people.
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And so I just think it's a beautiful beverage and it
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connects people over story. I was perfect.
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My next question and the most important one.
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Yes, if you go to a coffee shop, you've never been to write.
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What do you order I start with black coffee?
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Like I have a pepperoni pizza rolls.
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You, try a new pizza, you have to get a pepperoni pizza because
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that's the Baseline. So when I order coffee, I want a
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black. Cop you go from there?
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Go from there. I lied.
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I have one more question. Bring It On.
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Tell us the name of the company you're working for again and if
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you could how can design, tell a story about a coffee company.
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Oh goodness. Okay, so to Quality design
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company and we specifically with coffee, we're like you have a
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beautiful thing here and we want to make the outside just as
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beautiful as your products. So we want you to know your
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story. Know what you're passionate
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about and help your dream come alive in a visual representation
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because often you consume first with your eyes.
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So, if it looks beautiful, you've already set off on the
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right foot I've actually had a chance to follow up with Holly
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and took one. He's creative director Charles
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Carpenter in the days since the Expo for them.
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It starts with the story and most coffee stories, start with
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the producers, Taylor and Rhea of Portland Coffee Roasters came
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next with a different perspective, my name's Taylor
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Smith, I work at Berlin Coffee Roasters and and I'm here
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because I love coffee little Poppy.
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I love Innovation and copy happy technology and it's crazy.
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All the stuff people come up with and then it's delicious.
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I'm Rhea. And I also work in the same
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coffee shop as together here and I've gotten exposed to Coffee
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relatively recent but like in the last one year but just like
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the way, the industry formulates and the way it shifts
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continuously I find that like in certain markets I I feel like it
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could be expected that more and also mixed with other details.
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So like I'm actually pursuing my degree and that kind of
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alignment. Yeah I'm also here because like
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I just want more exposure to like the different kinds of
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farms and also the way the industry is going.
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So I feel like this would give me really good Insight because,
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you know, it's the World Expo. When you go to a coffee shop,
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that's not your own. What do you order?
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I usually check out their seasonal menu and hopefully that
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kind of Displays whatever, they're standing for, and then,
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if that doesn't look good, I will get a black ice Americano.
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And some sort of pastry probably cookie.
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It's call that my Barista lunch in college.
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I love that Snickerdoodle and a black guy smart.
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And what do you? What do you drink?
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Typically, I go for the t's because I'm also a big tea
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drinker. But anytime a big flavor person
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to. So any new flavor I find
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interesting or I haven't tried, I also go for that.
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But yeah, nacho or an iced tea or black tea.
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Saturday was non-stop at the roast.
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Our booth with guess stopping by continuously including Nick,
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Walton of flag and wire coffee of McMinnville Oregon and then
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Sarah, and her infant. Ali is Nick Walden.
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I work for flag and wire coffee in McMinnville or I'm sorry and
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we're in McMinnville. Oregon McMinnville Oregon.
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Yeah, that's hard to say like about an hour from here.
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Kind of on the way to the coast. Very cool.
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Nick why? You like coffee, W, coffee,
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important to you coffee's important to me because it's
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paid all my bills and helped me raise my children for over 15
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years. That is what very pragmatic
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answer. That's the thing.
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I love the most about it. Yeah.
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Well then, let me ask you the most important question I have
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for anyone. All right.
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Which is, when you go to a coffee shop, you've never been
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here. Yeah.
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What do you order? I order.
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An 8-ounce Americano. If I've never been there before,
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I order, an 8-ounce Americano. If it's good, I'll have an
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espresso. Okay.
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I'll have an espresso. I usually stay away from milk.
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Face drinks. But if I'm feeling saucy and if
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the pitcher rinser looks clean and I'll have a little
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cappuccino sometimes. My name is Sarah evil heart and
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I'm a coffee roaster and Cafe. Owner of Zocalo coughing in San
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Leandro and Oakland California. Oh, wonderful.
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I'm at Carlsbad California myself and this is Ali Ali.
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Yes to meet you there. Timekeeper my question for you
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then is obviously you're in the Three and you are an owner.
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Why is coffee important to you? Happy is important to me.
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Oh, because it has this incredible magical ability to
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bring people together and when they get together they can
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create really awesome things. So that's why I love it.
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When you go to a poppy shop that's not your own.
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Okay, never been, what do you order?
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I always have a moment of panic because II have a go-to drink at
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my own shop. When I go other places and while
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I coach, We're gonna get so usually it oatmeal cappuccino.
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Oatmeal cabbage. What's the go to at your own
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shop espresso espresso? Yeah.
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Well, thank you so much for being.
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Thank you and have a great rest of the show.
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It was both Ali and eyes first Expo, but I doubt it will be our
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last because coffee brings people together.
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And when people come together, they can create really awesome
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things, which makes us want to get together again.
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My next guests were Sarah and Leda who arrived on behalf of
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the farmers at the Panama Geisha.
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Vendor Booth. My name's Sarah.
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Yeah, we're here for the fun of my Geisha and we're here for the
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agenda. I'm gonna farm and the Black
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Moon farm. And why do you love coffee?
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It's just amazing in every in every single way.
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Yeah, and I'm 50 generation copy for so it's a family.
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Exactly, it's a fun. That's awesome.
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What is your favorite type of coffee to drink?
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Well Geisha because we produce that that's a good reason.
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Yeah, I agree coffee is pretty amazing in every way and I
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thought it was pretty cool. That Sarah was a
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fifth-generation coffee, farmer. David Kramer of Scolari
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engineering stop by next. And now that I think about it
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may have planted the seed in my subconscious to start planning a
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visit to Atlanta Georgia My name is David Kramer.
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I work with Scolari engineering. We make coffee roasters.
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Have that's just like a small thing that people do.
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Yeah. So I grew up with a mother who
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drank coffee every morning, so I knew it was time to get up when
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you smell the fresh coffee going.
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And I thought, if I got in the coffee industry, my mom would
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have better coffee to drink. That's a very lovely sentiment.
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It is, it is and she's funny. She goes, you know, Don't
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appreciate all of these great coffees.
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She was add milk and sugar to pretty much all of my coffees.
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It was her caffeine delivery system for having six kids, but
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over the years, she's got much better coffee and I feel better
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about it that she's drinking good coffee.
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The Baseline is risen way up, it really has, but at the end of
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the day, she's still drinks it all day long.
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And so never has a problem sleeping after drinking coffee.
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So, that's yeah. So I Got into it.
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What about, what about you? What do you drink?
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Wow, if you go to a new copy shop, you've never been you got
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to order something. What do you get?
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I'll look to see what they have. I do like the Ethiopians, I am a
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traditional Columbia guy, so a good Columbia, mix is always
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good for me. The Hawaiian Kaka had has been
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wonderful. I was in Jamaica and I had some
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Jamaica BlueMountain, and it was a good medium roasted.
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Coffee. I like all the nuances.
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So I do try coffee's anywhere I go and then I asked, what do you
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have? That's different.
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What do you have that? That's new some of the Central
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American coffee. So I really like, so I've had
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some very good coffees from Guatemala from Costa Rica here.
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The Panamanian Geisha is here and every morning walking
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through, it's like I know him in the stop by their booth and it's
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been wonderful coffee, it's gold.
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Our he's based out of Milan. Italy.
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So I've been over to Italy. You get to know what Italian
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espresso is all about and it has a they like it to have a robust,
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a component, but it also gives you a little higher caffeine.
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So I say keeps me going a little little stronger during the day.
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A good Italian espresso is always just wonderful to keep
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the day going. And I tend to be one of those
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people who burns the candle at both ends.
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So I need my coffee. And even during the daytime, if
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you hit that law, where you need another pick me up, just a quick
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espresso shot. If I didn't get any sleep the
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night before, it might be a quad.
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So, I think we can agree. David, pretty much likes,
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everything coffee. Stay tuned, and you'll hear more
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from him about Atlanta, and maybe America's best cold brew a
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little bit later. We have a few guests left to go
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including, Matt from blue coat. I Coffee Roasters, Christie
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Dean, the founder of drip, through Coffee Works and Kelly.
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Of Ada coffee house who hails from my old, Pittsburgh
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neighborhood of Bloomfield. My name is magical engine.
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I'm here, representing Bluto guy, Coffee Roasters, and where
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are you from? Matt India, welcome.
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Thank you. So, the sca for life, my
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question for you is, why is coffee important to you one?
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Is it drives my whole day? I can't start my morning without
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it, but to, it's the business that I'm in and supports the
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livelihood of another thousand people that I work for our
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company. Wow.
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That's Crazy, what brought you to this particular SCA Portland
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event? I've been to the ones in Europe
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before and I heard that the one in the u.s. is a lot bigger and
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better. So I wanted to come.
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Check it out. Is that true?
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Didn't your opinion or know it's a shame?
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It's not smaller, but it's the same with my question.
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My last question for you is, if you go to a coffee shop this
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weekend, what are you going to order?
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I'll get a pour-over for over. Yeah.
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Any particular origin or A thing.
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You look for. I look for something that's
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light and fruity. Write my name is Christy Dean
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The name of our coffee shops, drive-through coffee to tiny
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little drive-throughs in Atlanta.
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Hoping hoping to open more soon ones by the airport once just
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south of Atlanta, very cool and work with the local roaster out
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of Georgia, Cafe campus. See now, why do you love coffee?
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Why isn't why get into this business where it's so hard?
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Well, why do you love coffee? I drink.
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All day. Uh, you know, it's It's A
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Conversation Piece, you know, people can connect over coffee
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and, you know, there's a community involved and yes,
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exactly. So when you go to a coffee shop,
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that's new to you this weekend. What are you going to order?
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An Americano black, Black America black.
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You know, you gotta taste the coffee.
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This is going to be very easy. I promise ya.
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Let's start with. What's your name?
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And who are you here? Representing my name Kelly.
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I'm representing on a coffee and tea house from Pittsburgh.
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Oh really? Yeah, I used to live in
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Bloomfield. No Way.
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Bloomfield. Like Garfield area.
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Perfect. Very cool.
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So what is it that you love about coffee?
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I love like just like Community all the friends like just
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meeting people think that's great.
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Like all my best friends have been in coffee.
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When you are out this weekend, you go to a new coffee shop.
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Yeah. What do you order?
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I order a drip coffee or a course hot and when I come back
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to Pittsburgh, what should I order your show?
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You should order the Shady Side Sunrise.
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It's pineapple juice topped, with espresso, Michael from Red.
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Rooster stopped by to remind me that coffee is the gateway to
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life, okay? My name is Michael Torres and
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I'm representing roaster roosters coffee.
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Also an executive chef expanding my line, and getting ready to
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open up a brick and mortar coffee shop.
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That's insane but very cool and retired that somehow those
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things don't seem to go together.
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You know what people say? You know, you got One Life to
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Live. I don't want to sit home and
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watch it on TV. I got my own life to live, you
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know, no money. No honey.
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Well, my question for you is, why do you love coffee coffee?
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A lot of coffee is a gateway to friendships relationships and
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life in general. I mean coffee is a way of life
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where I grew up as a Caribbean person.
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And with coffee, I think my mom used coffee in my bottle.
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Instead of stereo do you know the I'll drink a couple shots of
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espresso at night and I'm good to go, I'm sleeping like a baby.
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That was the end of my Saturday Sunday at the specialty coffee
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Association. Expo felt a bit more subdued.
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The caffeine was still flowing but the vendor floor had thinned
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out some. I took advantage of the break in
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the action to talk to roast our Zone.
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A zinc and asked former podcast guest, Nick Schmidt about row
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Stars, new, recyclable Coffee Bean cylinders On behalf of sta
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for sponsoring. Well, my question is just, what
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is sta been like, for you? It's been amazing.
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It's been really cool to be here and be able to showcase our new
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Booth. We were in Boston last year.
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And this year, we really upgraded.
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So it's been super fun to show that off, show off our new
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products. We've met with a ton of new
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customers, which is truly the Highlight.
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So from our current customers that we serve, you know, to get
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to meet them in person. It's just there's nothing like
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it and then to get to meet new people who will get to work with
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over the next year. Is pretty awesome.
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Awesome. And I should have asked your
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name to start with. And who you work for?
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My name is Amber. A couple of years and then kept
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moving up throughout the coffee industry, ran a lot of coffee
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shops, what was ready to kind of take a step back from the big
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corporate world, and help serve coffee, the coffee Community, a
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different way. So well, then you should really
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have a good answer for this next question.
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And the last question, most important, when you go to a new
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coffee shop, what do you order that?
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Is a good question. I'm a nice coffee drinker
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myself. So, depending on what kind of
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coffee, they'll Brew, they're brewing, I'll get a No, or cold
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brew or an iced coffee? That's usually my go-to.
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Awesome. Well, congrats on Surviving
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three days of this Insanity. My feet are killing me but it's
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good. What's the story with this
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thing? Well, it's it looks cool.
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There, it's curbside recycling. Oh, that's cool.
23:48
That is cool. I'm like a big with the liner.
23:51
You can't. Our new recyclable material is
23:54
going to be stored drop-off, which is still exciting.
23:57
It's a step in the right direction, but I mean these in
23:59
those to be able to drop off in the on the curb is huge.
24:05
In the end, I stood in the middle of the floor and took it
24:07
all in. Okay, so this is it.
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I am going to be leaving the expo hall at SCA 2023, in
24:20
Portland, for the last time, and I'm going to be walking past
24:24
green, coffee, importers, and packaging, companies, and Coffee
24:28
Roasters, and more stickers than you could shake a stick at.
24:34
It has been an overwhelming, couple of days.
24:38
Opened it Close non-stop coffee and it's been pretty awesome.
24:46
An event. Like this is a great reminder of
24:50
how amazing the people and coffee are and how many of them
24:53
are and how we are also connected.
24:58
I'm looking forward to taking a nap and then getting to work
25:01
breaking down all the content from this weekend but whoever's
25:05
out there listening to this show.
25:07
Thank you for loving coffee. Thank you for listening to
25:10
Coffee people or coffee smarter or coffee with or roast West
25:14
Coast. And just giving a shit about the
25:17
coffee. That's in your cup.
25:19
I appreciate you. And I know everybody here at
25:21
this event appreciates you. Oh man, I need a cup of coffee.
25:35
My first Expo was way more than I ever expected.
25:38
I only have one regret for my weekend in Portland and that was
25:41
that I missed out on the coffee tattoos, being offered for free
25:44
in the mail Koenig Burr. Grinder Booth, I don't currently
25:47
have any coffee tattoos but I think that might change.
25:50
Thank you for joining me on this special bonus episode of coffee
25:53
people. Check out roast West Coast for
25:56
all the links and the updated SCA Expo event.
25:59
Diary thank you to the specialty, coffee Association to
26:02
Portland and Into the flight crew at Alaska.
26:05
Who hooked me up with an extra mini bottle, to add to my coffee
26:08
on the way home. As, for the break, we're
26:10
supposed to be on, I swear, it's going to happen.
26:13
There will be no new show next week, but after that, we'll be
26:16
off and running. We're kicking off season 8 of
26:18
coffee, people by chatting, with our new coffee friend, Richard
26:21
masino of Rancho Delfino, coffee Farm in, Carpinteria California
26:26
until then check out some of our other new content features like,
26:29
the Designer Showcase on roast westcoast.com where you'll find
26:33
With the artists behind your favorite coffee bag.
26:36
Designs and stay tuned for the soon to drop Crossings Coffee
26:39
corner in which we get coffee smarter in bite-sized,
26:42
increments with Alden Hosiery. The founder and head roaster of
26:46
one of our industry Partners Crossings coffee.
26:49
Those industry partners are pretty great.
26:52
In addition to roast our and crossings and steady state why
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I've already shouted out. I want to thank Camp, Coffee
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Company, coffee cycle. Roasting a say, a coffee Source.
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Ignite Coffee Company. Maria coffee.
27:03
First light whiskey, Cape Horn coffee, importers zoom bar,
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coffee and tea. Ascend Coffee Roasters, most
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your coffee company and our newest industry partner, acento
27:13
Coffee Roasters. This episode of the coffee
27:16
people podcast, which is part of the roast.
27:19
West Coast coffee network is was has been written produced and
27:23
recorded by me Ryan Walt. I hope that this episode is
27:27
found you happy healthy and with at least a thread of sanity left
27:30
enabling you to make it through the day always.
27:33
Is to group Baristas and be sure to drink a coffee.
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On the cold, brew coffee, there's a local roaster, Atlanta
28:06
called Phoenix Roasters, and they do a cold brew Nitro,
28:11
that's amazing. And so my problem is, it's like
28:14
been the favorite one. I've had anywhere in the
28:16
country. So then on comparing every other
28:18
cold beer, I have to that gold grill and it's probably not fair
28:22
to other cold Brews because it's like it meets all of my
28:25
requirements and then it's only half a mile from my house crush
28:29
on a Nitro tab. So it's easy to get And so that
28:32
consistency that the flavors that you like, and it's, I don't
28:36
drink cold brew every day, but it's a nice change of pace and
28:41
then especially in the summertime in Atlanta, a nice
28:44
cold. Brew can really replace that pot
28:47
coffee. Now, I grew up in Chicago, so in
28:51
the wintertime, you needed the copy for the warmth, as much as
28:54
for the caffeine. So but I appreciate the time.
28:57
No. Thank you.
28:58
It sounds to me like you are following in the footsteps of
29:00
your mom coffee from. Morning until night.
29:03
Well, I tend not to drink coffee late at night.
29:08
I will, if I finish a dinner and they were offering an espresso
29:11
or cappuccino, I will do one and it usually doesn't bother me,
29:15
but I did, I did find the day of, I had a cup at our, a pot
29:19
and a half a coffee. My hand was shaking so hard.
29:22
That's gonna like what's wrong. It's about how much coffee, only
29:24
a pot and a half. And I said, well maybe you need
29:27
to dial it back a little. So it's like so since then I
29:30
limit myself to Less coffee. But I do a 16 ounce coffee so
29:34
it's really, I can't say that one cup.
29:36
Yeah. And then if you go to Germany,
29:38
they serve it to you 4 ounces at a time.
29:41
So then really it's almost 4 cups of coffee to get just that
29:45
sufficient made by the end of the morning.
29:47
I've at least had that in my system and it keeps me going.
29:50
But with the time changes and everything else, it's really
29:52
helped with international travel to.
29:55
So whether you're in Italy or Germany, there's a show coming
29:59
up at enter pack in two Weeks. So I'll be in Germany for that,
30:04
but then you fly over night. So it's like the next day, you
30:07
know, it's going to be a coffee, Daiso.
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